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Is UGA competitive with its checkbook?
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
I hope everybody got a chance to see the story I did on assistant football coaches’ salaries. If not it ran in the Sunday paper and here’s THE LINK.
This is one of those stories you really don’t take much joy in writing. I mean, really, can you get any more personal than what how much money someone makes? But with Tennessee and Auburn — and Alabama, as always — throwing around jack like they have been this winter, and all these institutions of higher learning being subjected to sunshine laws, it was simply my journalistic responsibility to take a look at what Georgia was doing and try to put it into perspective. And once you get into researching something like this, there are just layers and layers of qualifiers and stipulations, so many that you just can’t get it all in print.
For instance, Florida’s assistant coaches actually made only $31,000 more than Georgia’s assistants in 2008 and way less than Alabama’s in 2008 — and we all know how the Gators did in comparison. Then again, those UF assistants are enrolled in a generous pension plan in which they’re vested after only five years and that earns them a lot of hidden money. And, like anywhere, major bonuses kick in once any of these guys win the division, win the conference and/or win the BCS.
And for all the money Tennessee was throwing around this year, it was spending only slightly more than Georgia this past season. Even though the Vols are paying their new D-coordinator $1.2 million their total staff pay is up only $600,000 (it’s all relative, isn’t it?). By all accounts, Bama’s staff pay is approaching $7 million, if it’s not there already. Then again, Georgia’s assistants’ pay is close to Kentucky’s ($1.89 million) than it is Bama’s are LSU’s.
So clearly it’s an issue around the league, and the nation. And I understand both sides of it. For administrators it’s a quandary to try to maintain competitiveness and fiscal responsibility. For coaches, it’s simply a matter of being paid in line with your peers. Like all of us, they have to do what’s best for their families and careers.
Anyway, I received a lot of e-mails Sunday from readers commenting on the story. So I figured I’d just throw it out there in the blogosphere and see what you guys think about it all. Are coaches being paid too much? Not enough? As for the Bulldogs, are you happy with their place in all this? Do you think it’s important that they pay their coaches similarly to top teams in the league for the sake of perception and/or prestige?
One other note: The story was not as comprehensive as I wanted it to be. I filed Freedom of Information requests for 11 of the 12 SEC football programs (Vandy is a private school and not subjected to open-records laws) in the hopes of running all of them side-by-side at once. But I didn’t get them all back in time. So there will be some follow-up if and when I do.
Besides Georgia and Tennessee, here’s the others from the SEC East:
Florida (2008): Assts. —$2.035 million; Total $5.29 million;
South Carolina (2008): Assts. — $1.56 million; Total $3.31 million;
Kentucky (2009): Assts. — $1.89 million; Total $3.49 million
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By D-Man
January 26, 2009 8:51 AM | Link to this
Well, I certainly think that college and pro coaches as well as and especially players get paid too much. BUT, with that said, Georgia must stay in line with colleges in it’s peer group. If not, we cannot expect to keep the top line coaches that we want, can we? Loyalty only goes so far. I am very pleased that UGA has been able to retain the two coaches that were courted by Tenn and Auburn. (although I wish Miami could steal CWM away) CMR and Damon Evans are going to learn this hard fact soon enough if they don’t get in line…On another note here..if CMR only has his coaches sign one year deals, it sure would be easy to get rid of CWM…come on, CMR…do the right thing!!
By Rick S
January 26, 2009 8:56 AM | Link to this
Georgia is fortunate to have a hugh surplus in the Athletic Fund but if the administration does not start reinvesting back into the facilities, i.e. Sanford Stadium expansion and rennovation, a new (not rennovated) Basketball Arena, UGA will get left behind in the SEC especially against Tennessee, Florida, Alabama, LSU, and Auburn!
By BugKiller
January 26, 2009 9:01 AM | Link to this
What I can’t believe is that Willie Freaking Martinez, one of the single worst DCs in the SEC, is paid $10,000 more per year than one of the best DCs in the league, Charlie Strong.
This is an inequity of all inequities if you ask me.
A man with 2 SEC Championship defenses and 2 MNC defenses in three years, verses a man so horrible, unoriginal, and just in over his head that he can’t even prepare his defenses for 9 out of the 10 HUGE games they’ve played on his watch, including a Sugar Bowl and countless important SEC games.
Once again, when there are hard working people out there getting it done in all walks of life, and someone like Willie Martinez, who is so woefully in over his head at his job, is getting paid $320,000 a year because he’s BFFs with the head coach…
… well, that’s an inequity that needs to change.
No wonder why Van Gorder left. He couldn’t get Evans and Richt to pony up that kind of money that he was all too happy to pony up for his BFF.
And the Dawgs has seen degraded performances by their defenses over the last four years because of it.
Look at every single meaningful stat under Martinez.
They all trend down.
And that’s a fact.
11 games giving up 30 or more points in four years, after just once in BVG’s four years.
3 games last year given up 40 or more points. UNACCEPTABLE!
A disturbing trend of never being able to make in game adjustments against big-time opponents and not having his defense prepared to play against big-time opponents.
Sounds to me like someone, with all the numbers getting worse over four years, isn’t earning a cent of his damn paycheck.
What’s the difference between Willie Martinez and the CEO of GM?
To me? Not a damn thing.
Both took over fairly thriving entities, and both have driven them into the ground.
Maybe Congress should investigate Martinez.
By SouthATL-Dawg
January 26, 2009 9:01 AM | Link to this
All the $$ in the world is not going to fix the problems with coaching in Athens. CMR and his assistants (espcially Martinez) need to get a grip on the team discipline and “will to win” when someone kicks them in the teeth (exhibit ‘A’ = last season’s Alabama game). Unless some serious attitude change occurs with the coaching, my Dawgs are gonna continue to lose to the likes of FL, AL and (God forbid) GA Tech.
By FLA DAWG
January 26, 2009 9:19 AM | Link to this
As long as The Dawgs are in the range this is not an issue. It would be interesting to know how the SEC salaries generally compare with other major conferences or particular teams such as Notre Dame or the undefeated Utah Team.
By Joe
January 26, 2009 9:24 AM | Link to this
I think that there is way too much money going toward pro athletes of baseball, basketball, and football. I think the college players themselves should be given a little more spending money than the current stipend they now receive which is extremely low for all the time and effort they put in the athletic programs and money made for the colleges (in most cases). I think the coaches at the successful programs are well paid but at the lower classification levels possibly under paid. I think we are going to have to pay our teachers and professors more money if we are to compete in science and technology for future economic growth and success in the new economic world competition for jobs. It is difficult to export sports to help us balance our loss in trade balance with other nations.
By YoungDawg
January 26, 2009 9:35 AM | Link to this
It’s really hard for me to understand how we have $20+ million is surplus every year but we won’t pay our coaches the market rate, can’t get these new facilities & improvements past the talking stages: the indoor practice facility built, renovations for Sanford & a replacement for Stegeman. I expected us to step up & offer Garner a multiyear deal with a buyout clause, given that he got a small token raise we should be grateful he stayed. Like it or not were in an arms race & unless there’s something I’m missing the funds seems to be there for us to keep up.
Chip, have you asked Damon Evan what the problem is? Specifically how come the UGA Athletic Department is not spending money on things to stay completive? All the people contributing the money that creates the yearly surplus may reconsider if these issues continue to go unaddressed.
Maybe Michael Adams will leave to take over for Miles Brand & then we can finally start spending money on things! Who knows maybe he’s not the problem but whatever the deal is it needs to be resolved ASAP!
By uga_b
January 26, 2009 10:04 AM | Link to this
Chip, I would also be interested in learning more about what schools have started giving assistants longer term contracts. I think that will eventually be the biggest differentiator. It amazes me we haven’t offered Garner a multi-year. This would seem to indicate loyalty on both sides.
I think the money is important, but studies show that your direct boss is the number one predictor of job satisfaction. Where I believe the salary pay scales to be very low are at the bottom tier of the staff. Most of these coaches barely make over 50k but can be let go each year.
In the end you need to be comparable to the market, but I think you need to balance your in-house staff compensation first. This also proves that titles are meaningless since the assistant head coach makes half as much as the DC.
By Chip Towers
January 26, 2009 10:16 AM | Link to this
YoungDawg: Of course I asked that. Damon’s very comfortable where Georgia is in the grand scheme of things. He said they intend to stay among the top in the league in salaries and they adjust when and where they have to. But they don’t just throw around raises just to stay up with the other schools… . The question he asks is, “if I automatically raise everybody’s pay to $1 million a year, is that going to make us more competitive on the football field?” His point is, you have to have some room to grow with salaries and, at the moment, Georgia’s not winning championships. If and when they you can bet the Dogs will be at the top of the league.
By Black Out Bob
January 26, 2009 10:19 AM | Link to this
Evans must invest in the hoops program now! 1. Head coach and assistaints 2. provide a long term plan to keep them with a new or complete make over of the arena.
By uga_b
January 26, 2009 10:22 AM | Link to this
YoungDawg, we just spend about 50 million on upgrading around Stegeman for basketball and gymnastics. So there are improvements, just not all football related. UF also doesn’t have an indoor facility because we are blessed with great weather. It will happen one day.
By 3 Rivers jacket
January 26, 2009 10:26 AM | Link to this
What is this about Sanford Stadium renovation. Is the place falling apart or something? You cannot enlarge it unless you do away with bozes and those generate too much income. maybe you could put in a dome. Renovating the stadium is not going to help you beat Florida or Alabama. Maybe Tech tore down too many of the hedges running up all those points on the much maligned WM. By the way if you fire Willie who do you haire? Leave the guy alone and see what happens next year when the D will have to carry the Dogs. I bet he comes out pretty good.
By Dawg Fud
January 26, 2009 10:50 AM | Link to this
I think Rodney Garner is trying to play up his “altruism” and commitment to UGA. I appreciate his loyalty to Mark Richt and I glad to have him. However, he is openly saying “i stayed for a lot less money - people think i am crazy.” you don’t see stacy searels doing this.
okay, you stayed. great, we love it! but stop making passive-aggressive overtures that you should keep getting a raise every year. if it is that big a deal then take the offer from Tennessee and other suitors. stop hanging it over our head in the media.
i think rodney garner is great. i love having him as our coach. but i think rodney needs to understand that georgia is great for him as well and to make peace with his compensation & position. there must be a reason he did not accept the other offers.
Georgia alumni and fans appreciate your loyalty but don’t keep rubbing our nose in your altruism and attempting to guilt us into stroking your ego with a big check. i have faith that mark richt and damon evans are going to look after their coaches.
GO DAWGS!
By Buddy El
January 26, 2009 11:05 AM | Link to this
Three Rivers Jacket: You make a lot of sense. Although I am an Engineer, I have been a Dawg fan for 6 decades. Thanks for the straight talk rather than the usual “I hate GT/UGA crap” unless it is done in fun.
By baloney
January 26, 2009 11:36 AM | Link to this
It doesn’t matter. UGA will always be second fiddle to the likes of South Carolina,Florida,Bama,Arkansas etc. Those schools have always had true fan support in very large numbers.The teams have not always been good (except Bama) but they almost always have capacity crowds even in a down year.Contrast that to the avg. UGA bandwagoneer that comes out of the woodwork when the team is on a good roll like they are now.You know the fans I’m talking about….the ones that keep referring to Garner as GARDNER. And the ones that always bring up Herschel. As sad as it seems, Herschel was almost 30 years ago. Let it go.
By Dawg Fud
January 26, 2009 12:43 PM | Link to this
baloney - all i care about is alumni and community support. i could care less about bandwagoners and these examples of “true fan” support you have identifies.
i think the UGA community has been very faithful throughout the years. they want a quality product and expect a good effort.
By YoungDawg
January 26, 2009 12:53 PM | Link to this
Chip, I understand what Damon is saying but the problem is he just had the opportunity to make a statement with the Garner situation. Maybe it’s a classic case of the boss paying as little as he can. I’m not saying we need to give then entire staff a mill a year BUT when the opportunity presents itself to solidify your most valued assistant it should have been seized! His point on big paydays after championships is well taken but we made need to spend more on assistants to get an NC. Same goes for facilities…Have you heard of any plans on when they’ll start executing the new master plan by adding or improving facility? Until we see proof that he’s willing to spend the cash needed to compete, all the talk is just lip service. Damon is a good at PR, actions speak louder than words, now we need to see him follow up on his promises & plans! That article was uncomfortable for you to write, if he was taking care of those things properly you wouldn’t have to write it! That’s the point! We’ve got a surplus each year now go spend it wisely to keep top coaches & assistants then get the facilities & upgrades we need to stay competitive! It’s really frustrating when we see most of the other SEC schools have already done this or are doing it while the DAWG nation just hears Damon talk a good game!
Uga_b, We’re in the south & down her, FOOTBALL IS KING! Take care of that first! Men’s Basketball is second & the practice facility is great but I’d rather have seen the indoor facility for football be built first. In the case of Stegesorious I might be OK with getting a replacement for it done next because to compete annually in basketball that needs to be resolved. I guess you could argue the will help us recruit in basketball but the area is the biggest issue. A new coach with the momentum of building a new arena might finally get basketball into the spot it needs to be in.
By Lowcountry Bulldawg
January 26, 2009 1:02 PM | Link to this
This is really ridiculous. The coaches are currently all overpaid with the state of the economy. Like it was posted CWM getting a $32,000 increase in salary. College athletics is dangerously close to being the NFL with these sudden increase in coaching salaries. If there is enough money to go around, soon the players will look for there fair share as well.
With this mornings news of Sprint, Home Depot, CAT all doing mass layoffs it is ridiculous for us to concern ourselves with whether or not the University of Georgia is paying the coaching staff enough.
Again why pretend that the NCAA is about furthering the student athlete? If these coaches are goign to get paid multi millions of dollars this should further the argument for a playoff system. Simply a sad state of events.
By Denver dog
January 26, 2009 1:40 PM | Link to this
Go dogs, UGA is doing the right things, and when they aren’t, they correct them. If you want to be the tops, you have to pay the top prices. We must be doing something right, and get off the Martinez kick. If UGA defense is bad next year, I will join you in putting the DC on the train. If not you can join me and celebrating a good year by the dogs D.
Go Dogs, that is what we should be saying, and hopefully some of you will get on the UGA bandwagon and start pulling for our team, instead of tearing it down.
I too don’t care how much we are ahead or behind the coaching staff pay. It all changes each year anyway. Alabama is trying to buy it’s way back to the top. UT is also. Maybe it will work, maybe it will not, but right now, the management staff at UGA knows alot better about the needs ans wants of the UGA coaching staff than a writer like Chip, or even worse, a writer like me.
GO DAWGS
By Kendawg
January 26, 2009 1:50 PM | Link to this
I hardly can believe that CWM is getting a raise. He should be getting a pink slip. Does UGA now think that it is a bank. All the banks had horrible years and they gave bonuses to the top executives who ran the banks into the ground in the first place. Some of them said they had to give bonuses to keep the talent. What talent????
By PHIL
January 26, 2009 2:01 PM | Link to this
Bugkiller,
ever taken an IQ test? I hear it has to be greater than your shoe size to post here now. You have spun the stats as do all Martinez haters. THe offense gave up alot of those points either by turnovers near the end zone or just plain touchdowns. How can you say a defense that was #2 overall in the NATION a year ago, has one year of not so good players, is trending downward? Go take that test.
By Roaddawg80
January 26, 2009 2:03 PM | Link to this
MUST READ
I like how everyone keeps throwing up numbers to make CWM look bad. They don’t even know what they are talking about. Everyone is sick of you guys. Go put on orange and hunt, fish, and cheer for your team all in the same wordrobe. You guys are idiots and do not know football. It is also rediculous to keep seeing that BFF with CMR and CWM. What are you little 10 year old girls.
If you want facts here they are. don’t just post half of your point but post it all.
CBV 2001-2004 Total Offense- avg. 400 yds per game Scoring Offense- avg 28.8 pts per game Total Defense- avg 307 yds per game Scoring Defense- 16.26 pts per game Turnovers 20 per year
CWM 2005-2007 Total Offense- avg 359 yds per game(alot lower) Scoring Offense- avg 29 per game Total Defense- avg. 298 Yds per game(Beat vangorder) Scoring Defense- avg 18.05 per game (just2pts lower) Turnovers 22 per year
Note that the kickoffs were moved back which is more on the Defense. I did not include this years stats b/c he was backed in the wall and you idiots cannot see that. No SENIORS on the Defense except Ellerbe who played 25% of the time
Now quit posting stuff you know nothing about. You stupid idiots. Willie has done just as good as Vangorder and better in some alot of categories. Considering T.O.P diffrence and T.O by the offense.
Also not Mark Richt called all plays during Vangorders era. Better ball control and less turnovers. That helps the defense. If you know football you would understand that. Now go put your orange on and cheer for someone else or quit bashing our coaches. Morons!
By JL
January 26, 2009 2:10 PM | Link to this
Good comparison in the article yesterday between UT and UGA. At the essence, all Kiffen is doing is addressing what has been a long standing imbalance in assistant pay compared to head coach pay…not unlike the gap between CEO pay and other management pay at any corporation. Interesting that Richt is paid 9 X more than his highest paid assistant. Discounting the fact that UGA fans think Martinez needs to go, what makes Richt worth 9 X more than his highest paid assistant. Consider this, if Fulmer at UT had address the gap between his pay and that of his highest paid assistants in 2007, he may still have a job at UT in 2009. That gap was the same 9 X as UGA has today. Fulmer didn’t wake up, and Cutcliffe to the HC position at Duke (what a waste) for the same $$ that Monte Kiffen is making as a coordinator at UT. Richt needs to wake up, or he will follow in Fulmer’s footsteps. It took only the loss of David Cutcliffe, and a failed attempt at replacing him to send Fulmer out—even with Chavis’s defense ranked # 4 in the country.
By newrandyt
January 26, 2009 4:00 PM | Link to this
A lot has been said about TN paying too much for its coaches…and time may very well bear that out. It could be suggested that AL got MORE than its money’s worth with Sabin. Was he paid too much? Maybe…but he delivered and that translates into $$$$ for the program. Like buying an expensive stock, but still making money on it. A sound investment ultimately. It is far to early to judge TN and Auburn yet. Give it two years.
By Vandybeta
January 26, 2009 4:16 PM | Link to this
* It is painfully obvious that less qualified academic schools like Auburn and UT are taking from the academic funds to pay these coaches….. Sad but true *
By Dr. Phil
January 26, 2009 4:27 PM | Link to this
As a Georgia graduate, I find it hard to believe that UGA isn’t near the top in revenue and contributions. Look at Adams’ season-ticket scams. I saw last fall that UGA had received 680 million in a multi year fund drive. I don’t think that the 680 mil was related to athletics, but the point is, UGA has plenty of money. I have no idea where Auburn is getting the $$$ to throw around. Auburn has an entire staff of ghosts on the payroll after the bloodleting last fall. It is irritating that money for teacher pay and student services has been cut and faculty reduced while Rodney Garner is whining about money. This issue is another case of people forgetting the purpose of the university. It does not exist for football. Football exists as an offspring of academics. (Well not at Florida State.) Football is a great source of entertainment and revenue, but if instruction and learning does not drive the train, then college football is just another professional team.
By oasis
January 26, 2009 4:50 PM | Link to this
Hey Vandybeta, You need to learn the truth so you can speak the truth. The UT athletic department is entirely self-sufficient. It not only receives absolutely no money from the university, the UTAD has donated in excess of $1 million dollars to the the university in each of the last 5 years, the only school in the SEC to do so. Just so you know the truth.
By Einstein
January 26, 2009 5:50 PM | Link to this
Folks, they are all paid waaaay too much for what they contibute to a person’s life. Wouldn’t you want your children to have teachers, professors, etc., that “earned” this kind of money helping your offspring to learn, rather than doling it out to thugs, malcontents, and primma donnas who’ll eventually throw most of it away. But, back to the real world where everything is all about the money. Look how all the football money machines subsidize every sport and just about every thing else that makes a University famous. I love our Dawgs as much as any of you, and it instills a sense of pride when we do well, BUT the more we (or any school) spends on football coaches and programs, the more we expect. How many of you would be just as proud of UGA if our football team went 9-3 every year, and 98% of its graduates got a real good job. It’s all about priorities…and all about the money. BTW, how long do you think UT’s staff will last if they lose 3 or 4 ganes a year? First priority is getting rid of Title 9. Peace.
By Sautee Dawg
January 26, 2009 5:54 PM | Link to this
Whatever happened to getting a raise based on results? Instead raises are given on specultion for the future. Does giving them a raise mean a better job performance for the future? Wish some of these schools would give bonuses based on graduation rates instead of championships and bowl appearances. Of all our coaches in 2008 the coach i thought deserved the biggest raise is the one that made the biggest difference in our team, and in my opinion that was Coach Searals. Glad he’s staying another year.
By Johnny DangerDawg
January 26, 2009 6:30 PM | Link to this
roaddawg80, In 2006, every time a close game got into the final 8 minutes, WM played soft zone as if the other team only had 30 seconds to mount an 80-yard drive. This year, WM called the right plays but simply didn’t have the best players. I think some of your comments give WM a little too much credit. You say UGA’s offense helped BVG’s numbers, but that’s not true. Those inconsistent offenses struggled in half the games. UGA had lots of low-scoring games back then and often won with defense and field goals; I remember cringing when the UGA offense kept putting the defense back on the field.
By ATL Gator
January 26, 2009 7:41 PM | Link to this
To Oasis- Gator Boosters/University Athletic Association donated in excess of $4,000,000 to the University of Florida last year. Just so you know the truth, of course.
http://www.gatorboosters.org/yir/2007/9_financial.pdf
By ATL Gator
January 26, 2009 7:42 PM | Link to this
To Oasis- In 2008 alone, the Gator Boosters/University Athletic Association donated in excess of $4,000,000 to the University of Florida. Just so you know the truth, of course.
(http://www.gatorboosters.org/yir/2007/9_financial.pdf)
By ATL Gator
January 26, 2009 7:44 PM | Link to this
To Oasis- In 2008 alone, the Gator Boosters/University Athletic Association donated in excess of $4,000,000 to the University of Florida. Just so you know the truth, of course.
(http://www.gatorboosters.org/yir/2007/9_financial.pdf)
By savannadawg
January 26, 2009 8:20 PM | Link to this
You get what you pay for!!!!! Some times. lol. You see when you really do your homework you can get coaches that are proven; before they become your coach. What did UGA do. They went and got a guy whom had never been a head coach before. Now this guy has done a fairly decent job since he has been at UGA, but he needs to know something. He needs to look within himself and see if he’s got what it takes to beat the s** out of people. At this very moment in time he does not. The money. Well, if we pay more, I want a better product than I’ve gotten over the last eight years.
By UGASlobberknocker
January 26, 2009 8:21 PM | Link to this
All I know is that I pay $500 per seat for 4 seats just to get the ticket application..then the tix on top of that. Ive got 44K points and Im just a small fry from the contributor standpoint and my seats arent that great. UGA Ath Dept. has the cash..they better start spending it.
I disagree with the poster who says we need to spend money on a basketball arena. Stegeman is fine other than being half empty for every game..we need to spend that cash on a decent coach. Have you ever seen Cameron Indoor Stadium? Duke doesnt get players there because of their arena..its the coach and the support that bring success, and both Tubby and Harrick showed it can be done here although granted Harrick was a slimeball. “how many quarters are there in a game, coach harrick?”
By Roaddawg80
January 26, 2009 9:51 PM | Link to this
TO Johnny Danger
You are right. I guess our offense helped us out this year in the Alabama game when we turned the ball over twice and went 3 and out twice and couldn’t move the ball.
Oh yeah in the Florida game. Everyone brings up all the points scored however it was 14-6 at half time. Does anyone realize we turned the ball over 4 times in the second half alone and Florida had a average 48 yard ling starting position. Oh yeah too that 48 yard line was on our side of the field. Defenses fauld??? NO it cant be. but who gets the blame??? WIllie? WHy?
What was the score at half time with GT? Who didn’t move the ball in the third quarter? Even Matt Stafford took credit for that. The first time all his career he took credit for something. Not moving the ball. Wait I guess Willie put them in that situation. RIght? I guess willie called off tackling drills half way through the season. NO that was Richt.
You guys don’t look at the whole picture. The Defense needed the offense for the first time in 10 years to have ball controll and they couldn’t do it. The Defense was very very young with no depth. Injuries killed us however you want to point to Willie when 90% of the time it was the offense or play calling(onside kick vs. UF) that put the defense in bad positions.
Look just except it for what it was. We had alot of injuries and a disapointing year. What is more disappointing 04 offense preseason #3 or 08 Defense. In my opion it is 04.
No your facts. AM I really giving him to much credit or not enough. I think he has done a great job. Go Willie. Please stay.
By FootballJones
January 26, 2009 10:15 PM | Link to this
When was the last time any of you got a raise because someone at a competitor got a raise? Garner is an idiot and his recruiting prowess is taking a hit as well while pimps himself out to anyone that will listen. Do you love Richt so much that you have been interviewed by everyone? Wake up people why give these guys more when nobody else is willing to pay them? Martinez…no interest. If Bobo is great, then why did UT, AU or UF not come calling for their openings at OC. Remember Fabris and Oklahoma, he cam crawling back. I applaud my University for not caving into the pressure. Why pay them more when they will stay for what they are offered> I guess since we can’t be Florida and Bama on the field we should at least beat them on the W-2’s!! How about going out there and winning the east and then ask for a bleeping raise?
Hey Chip…ask Damon this….we all think UGA should be the best, how about getting a football staff to step and earn a raise. If they put half the effort they do into whinning about money and injuries we might play UF and Bama to single digits…get over yourself Rodney Garner!!!!!!!
By uga_b
January 26, 2009 11:23 PM | Link to this
Look guys, they spent the money on upgrading the basketball side and the gymnastics. Gymnastics actually pulls its own weight financially; basketball should, but doesn’t. Me pointing out that we spent the money doesn’t count as an opinion. I think we all want an indoor facility, but, honestly, our facilities are pretty good and we have been in a drought for years. And as I pointed out previously UF has won 2 national championships in the past few years without an indoor facility. It ain’t the facilities folks. Btw, for what its worth, AK has some fantastic facilities. How did they do?
All our coaches make pretty good money including gymnastics and both basketball teams.
By ............................................BuLLdawg
January 27, 2009 4:40 AM | Link to this
We do not have very good assistant coaches, and that is reflected in the pay that they earn.
The question is not do we underpay or overpay our assistants; it is why can’t UGA have a real Special Teams coach, not Jon Fabris. Why can’t UGA have a real Defensive Coordinator like LSU just hired, where we missed the boat. John Chavis was the only coach on Phil Fulmer’s staff, and that is what ruined Phil Fulmer in the end. Coach Richt faces the same issues here with such glaring lack of success by our very talented but no production on Special Teams and on Defense for many years now.
Yes, Georgia needs to pay more and get some more beef for Coach Richt’s staff. The coaches he has on his coaching staff who are doing well could easily leave. If they do, it will not be because of the money they are being offered UGA would not match or try to match because UGA has as much money as any Football Program in America. If the coaches leave this coaching staff of Coach Richt, it will be because they are surrounded by incompetents being paid more money than they are, when they are doing a great job.
We’ve got problems in this Football Program, and this is it.
Willie Martinez is not the answer to a moribund Miami of Florida football program since the very day they left the soft Big East, exactly as I said at the time here they would be. 7-6 then 5-7 then 7-6 the last 3 years, and Willie Martinez is their answer ?
Out of your mind to suggest he would be, as only you carry a story no one else covers. And, you try to continue to bring it up, daily.
By Bill
January 27, 2009 5:23 AM | Link to this
*By Rick S
January 26, 2009 8:56 AM | Link to this
Georgia is fortunate to have a hugh surplus in the Athletic Fund but if the administration does not start reinvesting back into the facilities, i.e. Sanford Stadium expansion and rennovation, a new (not rennovated) Basketball Arena, UGA will get left behind in the SEC especially against Tennessee, Florida, Alabama, LSU, and Auburn!*
You can add South Carolina to that list as well. Already passed you in basketball and baseball and the weight and training facilities at Williams Brice are the best in the country. Then throw in the Dody Academic Enrichment Center scheduled to open this fall and suddenly USC has crawled back into the arms race. You can never stop upgrading facilities. Up next is stadium expansion.