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DEL.ICIO.USGeorgia, Florida have big advantages at QB
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
I don’t think anybody who knows anything about football can question the importance of quarterback play. It’s not as important in college as it is in the NFL — check out some of the signal-callers that have won national championships — but strong, mistake-limited play out of the position is super significant nonetheless.
My brother and I were talking about this the other night and our conversation invariably led us to a discussion of SEC quarterbacks. Never mind the “who’s better?” argument between Florida’s Tim Tebow and Georgia’s Matthew Stafford. There’s no denying that Tebow has been better so far but we won’t have complete data on those two until they have completed their college careers and secured their fates in the NFL. Until then that’s all opinion and conjecture.
What everyone can agree on regarding those two is that they’re both pretty doggone good and certainly difference-makers for their teams. Which brings me back to the discussion with my brother.
The fact is, Stafford and Tebow loom above the rest of the quarterbacks in the SEC and are big reasons why their teams are so good. They’re going to be better than their opposition’s quarterback in virtually every game other than the one against each other. In fact, if you look at it closely it doesn’t appear to be a great year for quarterbacks in the league.
Starting in the Eastern Divison, Tennessee has to replace Erik Ainge and it’s doing it with a quarterback (Jonathan Crompton) who is coming off elbow surgery. Kentucky must find a replacement for record-setting Andre Woodson and South Carolina will break in a new signalcaller, which could be a good or bad thing considering Blake Mitchell’s enigmatic career. One of the Gamecocks’ best candidates, Stephen Garcia, is currently suspended from school because of his trouble with the law. Only Vanderbilt, which brings back the duo of MacKenzie Adams and Chris Nickson, is solidified under center, and neither one of them will have Earl Bennett to throw to.
On Georgia’s schedule from the West are: LSU, which will start either a transfer from Harvard or a redshirt freshman after the Ryan Perrilloux debacle; Auburn will not only break in a new starter at quarterback (Chris Todd or Kodi Burrns) but it will also be introducing an entirely new offensive scheme under new coordinator Tony Franklin; and Alabama, which brings back John Parker Wilson, a decent quarterback for sure but certainly not one that strikes fear in defensive coordinators. Advantage Georgia in those three tilts.
The rest of the conference: Ole Miss believes it will be upgrading from Seth Adams to Texas transfer Jevan Snead; Mississippi State appears set with Wesley Carroll; Arkansas has a go-to guy in Casey Dick but new coach Bobby Petrino pronounced it an open competition and has brought in quarterbacks from everywhere to join it. A recent NCAA decision to deny eligibility this season for Michigan transfer Ryan Mallet didn’t help matters.
The point is, as you can see, Georgia and Florida are in really good shape at quarterback and both have the requisite weapons around them required to make some big noise. The majority of the league, not so much.
What do y’all think? Am I overstating the significance of quarterback play? Is there one or two SEC guys out there that may turn out better than Stafford or Tebow? Let us hear your thoughts.
Also, check out where Mr. College Football has the Stafford-led Dogs and Tebow-led Gators in the TB Top 30.
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By JRL
May 8, 2008 1:28 PM | Link to this
I don’t see two any better. Carry it one more step what if either Tebow or Stafford go down for a game or two? I’d take UGA with JC running the show over most others in the SEC.
By larry
May 8, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this
After the dogs roll over Flordia this year, opinions will change over whose the better QB. Mark my words, Stafford will be a top 5 draft pick in this year’s draft
By reservoirDAWG
May 8, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this
I think Stafford and Tebow are the class of the SEC. I also think Wilson will have a good year. As far as overstating the significance of QB play, it is the most important position on the field.
By brandon
May 8, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this
Stafford is the man. He is a true pro style qb.
By speaking of JC
May 8, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this
Any new pix from nascar ‘Dega this year?
By brandon
May 8, 2008 1:43 PM | Link to this
Any new pics of Tebow kissing a player on his team?
By Ron Mexico
May 8, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this
In other news, Mark Richt announced he will hire a Gimmick Coordinator for the upcoming season, to relieve him of the burden of planning uniform changes and coordinated dancing.
By tr
May 8, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this
Those two are certainly heads above the crowd right now, but by the time the Dawgs face AU, a new offensive system that favors the talents they have on hand could have the Tigers closing the gap a bit. And it’s a true shame the kid at LSU couldn’t get his off-field act together.
By Lowcountry Bulldawg
May 8, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this
It is rather obviuos that these are the best two quarterbacks in the conference. It could also be said that by years end perhaps the two best in the nation.
It is my hope that both respective teams go into Jax undefeated, pitting these two Heisman and NC contenders against each other.
It is my opinion that by the end of eachs respective college career Tebow will have better stats and maybe more NC’s (including his Frosh year), but Stafford with his arm, durablity and poise will make a better pro. Stafford seems destined to mature this year into an elite college QB. Taking nothing away from Tebow as both certainly are winners and seem to be leaders of there teams.
By barrett
May 8, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this
Tebow is better now because the system he is in. Stafford will be better in the NFL. Ryan Mallett will be awesome when he gets a chance. He is cut from the same cloth as Stafford.
By Dawg4Life
May 8, 2008 1:48 PM | Link to this
JRL- I would agree with you. I would take Joe Cox in an injury situation, but Florida does have Cameron Newton waiting in the wings. He is an exceptional talent, but not tested. Cox does have quality game experience. Not to mention, UGA has Logan Gray who is a burner, but he is also untested. I would have to say that these 2 schools do have the advantage under center, not to mention some of the top offensive talent around them which doesn’t hurt.
By junkyarddawg
May 8, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this
If Stafford goes down, I think that Logan Gray will take the snaps…not Joe Cox.
By jefferey carter (lives w/parents)
May 8, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this
both Tebow and Stafford are absolute studs. But lets not write off 3rd year starting QB for Alabama John Parker Wilson. Although he is not deemed to play NFL, he has arguably what should be one of the best offensive lines in front of him (i.e Andre Smith, Antoine Caldwell) and impact receivers Mike Mccoy and Julio Jones shouldnt hurt. As long as he limits turnovers, Alabama should be the team to beat in the west.
By baloney
May 8, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this
Stafford can throw the ball a long way and he can throw it hard. However he is much like Michael Vick in that he doesn’t throw it to the receiver. I would wait before I count him as a great QB.Hasn’t won anything nor led his team to anything of much importance.
By mariettaou
May 8, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this
Bradford at OU is better than Tebow and Stafford
By Dean Tate
May 8, 2008 1:56 PM | Link to this
I think all UGA and FL people are very happy with the QB that each has. I think Tebow will get the most college honors and Stafford will go higher in the draft. As long as UGA gets the outstanding play we think Stafford is capable of, the accolades for other QB’s are insignificant. Team victories are not.
By Noodle_Arm_Stafford
May 8, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this
John Parker Wilson will beat NoodleArmStafford @ between the shrubs this year. keep dreaming for your nc crown.
By Dawg19
May 8, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this
Well, read the article Mariettaou. The whole thing is about the SEC. Nowhere did Towers mention the rest of the nation. Stay on topic.
By SugarHillDawg
May 8, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this
Somewhere in the Phillipines there is a kid wearing a “Tim Tebow circumsized me” tee shirt.That dude get more bizarre by the day!!!
By My name is Bill W.
May 8, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this
Right now Tebow has the numbers statisically. Different offenses though. I think Staff will be the better QB at the end of this year. I do think JPW of Bama may have a better season than expected, specifically because of new receivers like Julio Jones. Don’t know anything about their O line though. Watch out for Kodi Burns at Auburn. Since UT has a stable in the backfield, that will help Crompton have a good season. The Chickens are hosed. Good thing they will have a defense or it would get ugly this season. The rest will be mediocre IMO. Like you said Chip lets pull this article out in a year or 2 and see what is said.
Sic ‘em
By shane #1
May 8, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this
I like old John Parker, tough kid, but He doesn’t have the arm of Stafford or the dual threat capability of Tebow. We have to remember that Tebow and Stafford will be true juniors, both should improve Their mechanics this season. Burns has the tools to be a good one, time will tell about that. South Carlolina is in trouble, neither of Their qbs performed well in Their spring game and even if Garcia comes back he will have only a couple of weeks to practice. He has missed spring practice, the off season workouts, the time studying film, and the chance to bond with his team mates, LSU has so many good athletes They should be okay, but not NC caliber, UT will struggle, and not just because of Their qb. Uf and UGA are loaded, UGA has the better running game and defense of the two, still it’s possible both could roll into J’ville undefeated. What a war that would be! This could be the most important WLOCP ever.
By jeff
May 8, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this
John P. Wilson? hahahaha… Are you kidding me? Alabama is going to be a 5 or 6 loss team this year. I think Logan Gray from UGA is probably the 3rd best QB in the SEC already… ;-)
By mariettaou
May 8, 2008 2:12 PM | Link to this
Dawg19 just admit i am right and keep quiet
By AltamahaDawg
May 8, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this
I like the use of the word requisite.
By mcdawg
May 8, 2008 2:17 PM | Link to this
O-Line, O-Line, O-Line etc…………….
By Bamafan
May 8, 2008 2:20 PM | Link to this
Sarah Jessica Parker will get a beatdown when (HE) plays in Athens this year!! Better get the 2nd sting QB ready. Really John Parker Wilson is a decent QB, but he made bad decisions in the LSU and god forbid the MISS ST. game last year!! Tebow and Stafford are in a different class of QB from the other sec qb’s!! ROLL TIDE!!
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By 82DAWG
May 8, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this
If Stafford went down, would Cox or Gray take over? Cox, with the exception of the Colorado save has been extremely unimpressive and Gray has been called the heir-apparent to Stafford.
By tony garcia
May 8, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this
sttafford is better than any quarterback in the nation and him and knowshon will lead Ga to a nc.
By corey
May 8, 2008 2:32 PM | Link to this
Hey noodle arm, remember that OT game against Alabama? Ole Noodle Arm Stafford sure does need improvement. LOL! bama fans are getting as bad as lamecock fans
By mariettaou
May 8, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this
Haven’t you UGA kids caught on yet, you have been claiming that you are going to win a NC for years now??? No this is not going to be the year of the Dawg!!! As usual.
By piermontdawg
May 8, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this
great d’s make great quarterbacks even better.
By CtownDawg
May 8, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this
Hmmm…Tebow certainly had the better individual year last season, no doubt. But I think most could argue as far as overall good for the team that Stafford may have won the battle. Tebow would have much rather made it to the Sugar Bowl last year for sure.
By CtownDawg
May 8, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this
Hmmm…Tebow certainly had the better individual year last season, no doubt. But I think most could argue as far as overall good for the team that Stafford may have won the battle. Tebow would have much rather made it to the Sugar Bowl last year for sure.
By CtownDawg
May 8, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this
Hmmm…Tebow certainly had the better individual year last season, no doubt. But I think most could argue as far as overall good for the team that Stafford may have won the battle. Tebow would have much rather made it to the Sugar Bowl last year for sure.
By GATORZONE
May 8, 2008 2:45 PM | Link to this
I am sure that Stafford will go higher than Tebow if he elects to go pro next year. Tebow has made it VERY clear that he wants to play all 4 at Florida and graduate. Also, although Urban is getting him beat to death by running him so much the kid is a pretty good passer and has all of the intangibles to be a good pro.
By BUSHWACKER
May 8, 2008 2:45 PM | Link to this
Mark it down,2008-2009,28-0,2 titles,2 Heismans, 1 for Matt, 1 for Knowshown, then hopefully the Falcons can sign Matt, Knowshown and CMR.
By Mayrettaou
May 8, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this
Mayrettaou loves Boise State
By 1eyedJack
May 8, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this
I don’t think quarterback will be our biggest concern. With Stafford, 4th year junior Joe Cox and 3rd year soph Logan Gray the Dawgs should not only be better than anyone else in the SEC at QB, but also deeper. I’m a homer, but, I wouldn’t trade Stafford for Tebow and I do beleive that in the end Matt will be drafted higher.
By WestVaJoel
May 8, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this
from an outside-the-SEC perspective, no QB in the SEC comes close to Tebow in talent and leadership. Stafford is way overrated.
By Really?
May 8, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this
Can we cool down a second before we annoint Stafford, who had 2500 yds, 19TD and 10INT the best in the country? Am I missing something? According to statistics, he was the #72 ranked qb on cbs sports last year. #72!
Tebow had 3200 yards, 32 TDs and 6 INTS (he also had 21 rushing TDs). LOL
By GATORZONE
May 8, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this
Oh, and if Tebow goes down the Gators are in trouble. Cameron Newton was a wonderful talent coming out of High school, but in the spring game he could not hit the broad side of a barn. I really think John Brantley beats him out for 2nd…
By GATORZONE
May 8, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this
Ctown, nice triple post. ANYONE would have liked to play that JUCO team last year in the Sugar Bowl.
By GATORZONE
May 8, 2008 2:53 PM | Link to this
BUSHWACKER I want whatever you are smoking!!!
By BUSHWACKER
May 8, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this
Hey WestVaJoel,
Is that why Mel Kiper,ESPN’S DRAFT EXEPERT, said Matt will be the #1 pick?
By BUSHWACKER
May 8, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this
Hey WestVaJoel,
Is that why Mel Kiper,ESPN’S DRAFT EXEPERT, said Matt will be the #1 pick?
By Woof Woof
May 8, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this
Hunkerdown hairy dawgs!!! National champs 08
By GATORZONE
May 8, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this
Oh, and by the way the Gators will have a little something for the Dogs this year in Gainesville. This should be a slobberknocker for the ages!!!
By 82DAWG
May 8, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this
Is John Brantley at Fla any relation to the John Brantley that played for UGA in the mid 1980’s? I know our Brantley was from Florida as well.
By BUSHWACKER
May 8, 2008 3:00 PM | Link to this
Its purty green an stinky!!!
By Really?
May 8, 2008 3:00 PM | Link to this
Hey Bushwacker -
His Talent is there, his stats however, are not.
By GATORZONE
May 8, 2008 3:00 PM | Link to this
Nice spelling there Bushwacker. Who gives a sh!t what Kiper says they have not played a single down this year.
By BUSHWACKER
May 8, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this
Its purty green an stinky!!!
By Wes-Dawg
May 8, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this
Stafford is clearly the better quarterback in the pocket and is not succeptable to getting hurt like Tebow. After Tebow gets beat-up running the ball 2 out of 4 downs every possession he will bottom out and who next? All in all he is solid but runs too much. FL needs a great running back to relieve Tebow.
By Pat
May 8, 2008 3:03 PM | Link to this
Tebow will get more rewards because his team depends on him more than UGA depends on Stafford. UGA asks Stafford to check to the correct plays and handoff while Florida expects Tebow to score even if he has to run thru a brick wall. Stafford is asked to hit’em where they ain’t, Tebow to just hit’em.
By BUSHWACKER
May 8, 2008 3:04 PM | Link to this
I do belive he is his son?
By Lowcountry Bulldawg
May 8, 2008 3:04 PM | Link to this
Marietta OU
Stafford has ids 1-0 in a BCS bowl game. What is Samantha Bradfords record?
Joel
Overrated? Third year in the system, All-American candidate at Tailback and a veteran group of receivers, highlighted with a dynamic true frosh in AJ Green. A group of returning starters at the OL, with depth, and a reliable TE. You will see the maturation of this young man in the fall.
I hope you just come back and see us, ya here. Keep us updated on Patsy White as well.
By GATORZONE
May 8, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this
82DAWG, it is his nephew. He has a cannon for an arm.
By GATORZONE
May 8, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this
Oh, also that was Scott Brantley in the 80’s.
By 82DAWG
May 8, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this
If Tebow had a defense last year, fortunes might have been reversed. Can’t blame him for that. He did everything he was asked and more on offense, which is why he won the Heisman on an average team. Stafford has shown signs of greatness, but has also been mediocre in some games as well. I need to see more consistancy from him (better than a 55% pass completion for instance) for me to be sold on his greatness.
By GATORZONE
May 8, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this
Fortunately, Tebow can run through a brick wall. You would think that eventually he will get hurt, but in 2 years he has not missed a game, although he was clearly injured against UGA last year. Hopefully… He stays healthy and Urban does not need to run him so much. With Emmanual Moody and Chris Rainey, they will have a hell of a 1-2 punch with power and speed.
By Stafford Sucks
May 8, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this
He’s too fat to play in the NFL. He’ll have as much playing time as D. Green. Hey, did you know D Green was roommates with D. Pollack? WOW, that’s so cool.
By Dutch
May 8, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this
You do NOT overstate the importance of the Quarterback position.
However, you DO understate the importance of being a SENIOR QB in the SEC. Did Superman Tebow or Superman Stafford win the SEC Championship? Nope. Some untalented but SENIOR qb at LSU did.
Therefore, with Perriloux out at LSU, I’d look for Alabama to be in that SEC CG as the West rep. They’ve got one of only two SENIOR qbs (C. Dick- ARK) in the league.
Think I’m overstating the importance of being a SENIOR qb? Check the statistics. Since the inception of the SEC CG (1992), only twice has the SEC been one by a younger qb. Yes, one time was Georgia under Greene. And, the other was Florida.
But, that’s still only twice out of the last 16 tries. Now THAT is NOT good odds. We can all agree on that.
Dutch
By tdc
May 8, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this
The other 10 SEC QB’s would look like Bradford if they played in that extremely weak Little 12. Remember, it is easy to pad stats when your conference only has one or two decent teams, i.e Matt Leinert/Reggie Bush. Play against SEC defenses, then talk!!
By mariettaou
May 8, 2008 3:14 PM | Link to this
UGA fans keep talking your trash, for the past 20 years or so we have heard it and you have nothing to show for it. Do the rest of the country a favor and shut up!!!
By UT96
May 8, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this
Tebow, hands down, is the best qb in the conference. As for my my Vols, please, keep underestimating them. You guys will be in for a rude awakening. Crompton will be an improvement over Ainge-much stronger arm, mobile, and a better supporting cast around him. Clawson will be an improvement over Cutcliffe. If we can avoid injuries on the defensive line, we’ll be in the thick of the SEC race.
By tman48
May 8, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this
I AM A GA FAN AN FA FAN. GA RECIEVERS HAVE BEEN DROPING THE BALL ALOT THE LAST 2 YRS.IF NOT FOR THAT THEY MAY HAVE BEEN UNDEFEATED LAST YR.TEBOW IS A WINNER.I DONOT LIKE A QB WHO LAYS DOWN BEFORE GETTING HIT.ALSO TEBOW CAN THROW THE BALL.WE PLAY IN THE BEST CONFERANCE IN THE NATION.I WOULD TAKE TEBOW OVER STAFFORD IF HAD THE CHORICE.
By Steve Spurrier
May 8, 2008 3:17 PM | Link to this
“It’s just Georgia, we were supposed to beat ‘em”
Priceless quote from the master!!!
By herschel
May 8, 2008 3:19 PM | Link to this
we will beat the Gators this year
we will beat the Gators this year
…Didn’t I just say that? No, you didn’t, that was Sybil
By ATL GATOR
May 8, 2008 3:19 PM | Link to this
Got Heisman? We Do!!!
By herschel
May 8, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this
Who talk trash??
By JS
May 8, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this
Florida.. for sure, UGA… I doubt he’s among the “best.”
By GATORZONE
May 8, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this
Very true tdc.
Dutch, good luck riding that theory. JPWilson is mediocre at best. He needs more help to make it to the SEC championship.
By UGA and nothing
May 8, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this
Stafford has won how many championships that don’t involve lifting a keg over his head? I like the “our backup is better than your backup” argument. Joe Cox has proven he’s a great cuddler.
By Hey ATL GATOR
May 8, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this
Who cares, we beat you and your Heisman winner!
By mariettaou
May 8, 2008 3:26 PM | Link to this
TDC
Dumb comment, the Pac 10 has a better record against the SEC and you are going to talk trash about the Big 12? The Pac 10 has dominated the SEC. That has got to suck!!
By Thomaston Dawg
May 8, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this
Stafford works in a run-first offense. Tebow works in a no running back, run it yourself or hand it to the wide receiver offense. Completely different systems. If Florida had anything like Moreno, Tebow wouldn’t have those stats either.
By ATL GATOR
May 8, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this
Got Jorts and mullets? We do!!!
By The Murf
May 8, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this
stafford is garbage
By Lowcountry Bulldawg
May 8, 2008 3:30 PM | Link to this
Thats right the Heisman was given to the guy who scored the most touchdowns from inside the 1. That is a great award. Go ahead and put him up with Ty Detmer and Andre Ware. Two other great SYSTEM Quarterbacks.
By Stupid Techies
May 8, 2008 3:30 PM | Link to this
UGA and nothing, typical moron Tech fan. By the way, our water girl is better than your QB. Tech, what a joke!
By Dutch
May 8, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this
Gator, he will have Julio Jones, the greatest freshman phenom since Herchel Walker to help him.
By reservoirDAWG
May 8, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this
They are both players. Unfortunetly for Tebow, Meyer’s offense is going to get him hurt. Whereas Bobo will call plays that weren’t drawn up in the sand.
By 82DAWG
May 8, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this
Wow, this blog has sure degenerated, I am out of here!
By GATORZONE
May 8, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this
ATL Gator… That is funny. Here is what you should say from Ga… Got GEECHES? We still do…
By SmyrnaDawg
May 8, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this
Mariettaou, what the hell does the PAC 10 having a better record against the SEC have to do with trash talking the Big 12? You sound like a Tech fan having to use other conferences to downplay the SEC because your own sorry conference can’t do anything against us.
By birdman
May 8, 2008 3:38 PM | Link to this
no doubt that they both have the best returning at QB, and offense overall, which is why one of the two will probably win the east.
By Erik
May 8, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this
Hey, mariettaou:
Let’s take a look at your last four BCS games:
vs. LSU - Loss vs. USC - Humiliated vs. Boise - Lost to a team that ran the statue of liberty on you not once, but TWICE, in the same game vs. WVU - Drilled (yes, we lost to them , by THREE, our only bowl loss the last six years.
Sounds like you’re the one who should keep your mouth shut.
By Steve
May 8, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this
Chip,
Would you mind posting the records for UGA and UF when Stafford and Tebow were the starter? I think you wil see that Stafford is looking rather strong as compared to Tebow. Thanks.
By mariettaou
May 8, 2008 3:48 PM | Link to this
Smyrna Dawg
Let’s start this way. You all constantly rip apart the Pac 10 correct? They have a winning record over the SEC correct? Then you say how horrible the Pac 10 is. We the Big 12 have a winning record over the Pac 10. How is your conference better?
By GATORZONE
May 8, 2008 3:49 PM | Link to this
WHoever shakes out as the SEC champ, we just need to get down on our knees and pray to God that they will face Ohio State in the Championship. OSU vs. SEC 0-15
By Mr. Gator
May 8, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this
Both Schools have the best QB’s this coming season. While this is an advantage, it does not guarantee anything.
What is more important is how relative the scheme is to the QB’s strengths.
I admit that Tebow would not be as good in UGA’s scheme - but is flourishing at UF under Coach Meyer’s system. Cam Newton is possibly another Tim Tebow - tall / big / good arm / linebacker mentallity.
Having the better QB helps - but this is a team game where scheme, perparation, execution, and good ole coaching is critical
For example - Eric Ainge (who I think is a very good QB) beat UGA 3 out of 4 times. In three of those wins - and espcially his freshman year - UGA had the better QB and had the better team - but got out coached and out schemed by the Vols.
Hope the Gators and Dawgs both undefeated heading into JAX. Then we crush you face with our flip flops while wearing our jean shorts!!!!
Go Gators!!!
By DawgSqueez
May 8, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this
TDC, really. Do you ever watch football outside of the overrated SEC. The Big 12 & the SEC had pretty much the same number of teams in the top 10 national rankings. Get over yourself.
By mariettaou
May 8, 2008 3:55 PM | Link to this
Erik, notice i haven’t said anything about how good OU has been in the past 5 years or so (NC champs in 2000 by the way), they have alot to prove, I mean alot, my refernce was to conferences. You all boast about the SEC, but you have a losing record to a conference you criticize constantly the Pac 10, explain?
By DawgSqueez
May 8, 2008 3:55 PM | Link to this
TDC, really. Do you ever watch football outside of the overrated SEC. The Big 12 & the SEC had pretty much the same number of teams in the top 10 national rankings. Get over yourself.
By GATORZONE
May 8, 2008 3:58 PM | Link to this
Sorry, I should have said “The” Ohio State University versus the SEC 0-15
By GATORZONE
May 8, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this
Oh, and I would rather wear jean shorts sporting a mullet drinking cold beer on the beach any day over living in that Godforsaken smog haven you lovely people of Atlanta enjoy on a daily basis. Enjoy your traffic and crime loudmouths!
By UGA
May 8, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this
This just in..Urban Meyer will cry to the refs and the league about losing again this year..
By USC Chicken Fan
May 8, 2008 4:05 PM | Link to this
I’m in my mom’s basement drinking beer instead of out trying to find a job. But I was just thinking maybe Stephen Garcia is the best qb in the SEC. Oh never mind, I’m drunk.
By GT
May 8, 2008 4:05 PM | Link to this
Stafford is not the college quarterback Tebow is, in the pros a different story, but in a college game give me Tebow. What Georgia does have to offset the quarterback and to make Stafford look as good as Tebow is the best set of running backs in college football. For a kid from New Jersey to come to Georgia he better be good and they are saying King is looking every bit as good. Hard to bring those guys down which means defenses have to cheat which means a lot of one on one and zone for Stafford.
By JP
May 8, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this
Geaux Tigers!
By Lowcountry Bulldawg
May 8, 2008 4:07 PM | Link to this
Georgia was undefeated against Oklahoma last year. Oklahoma State. We are a man. If you wanna pick on somebody MariettaOU pick on a man….That was great TV!
By GATORZONE
May 8, 2008 4:07 PM | Link to this
Oh, and how many National Championships has UGA won in the last 25 years??? What???0 How many have the Gators won in that time span?? WHat??2
By GatorsNational Champs
May 8, 2008 4:11 PM | Link to this
Hey Steve 1 win and for Noodle Arm Stafford… 3 win in 18 yrs for your Leg humpers over National Champs Florida Gators ….Tebow 1 Heisman, Noodle Arm Stafford 0….Tebow 1 nc ring, Noodle Arm Stafford 0, Tebow 1 SEC Ring, Noodle Arm Stafford 0 and lets not talk Tebow stats in passing, rushing vs your over rated Noodle Arm Staford. When was the last time your mutts won a nc or Heisman? Enjoy you 1 win, even a blind squirrel finds a nut! 3 win in 18 yrs and it’s killing mutt nation! Come on back to Jax for your yearly beat down girls!
By GATORZONE
May 8, 2008 4:11 PM | Link to this
This just in UGA fans will Boast of a national championship as usual before the first kickoff. Go ahead and take your normal beating by an inferior opponent and lets hear the excuses roll… What else is new. Oh and also this year in Jax we will make your record 5-15 (over last 20 meetings) when you get beat again… HUNKER DOWN!!!
By gdawginkalamazoo
May 8, 2008 4:11 PM | Link to this
Chip, The Guiness guys called regarding your deduction on SEC QB’s for the upcoming season. They said “Brilliant”.
By Gators Drink Zima
May 8, 2008 4:16 PM | Link to this
I think Tebow would beat Stafford in a foot-race because of the areodynamic advange of jean-shorts or “jorts”
By GATORZONE
May 8, 2008 4:17 PM | Link to this
LSU has won 2 Tennessee has won 1 Auburn was cheated out of 2 Alabama has one one Even Georgia Tech has a share of one
Where has UGA been? Talking as usual
By dave
May 8, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this
Tebow and Stafford are pretty good all and all but is Stafford ever going to stop throwing OFF HIS BACK FOOT. Sometimes it seems as if he is shooting free throws instead of throwing a down field pass. The biggest problem is Stafford has a bunch of athletes but not a single one has any longstanding chemistry with stafford. Sure they can run like the wind and jump out of the gym, but can they runa route??? It appears Crompton has the best situation at TN. He returns his starting backfield, and outside of losing some so-so tight ends he gets all of last years seasoned recievers back. Also notably Cropmtons suregery wasn’t any ligament or, bone movements, it was simply just to relieve lose particles. So his mechanics shouldn’t be effected at all, he is reportedly already throwing again 2 weeks after surgery.
It should be interesting, but it appears UGA is the team to beat, but the SEC is what it is and it is incredibly hard to come out undefeated if not with 1 or 2 losses just in league play. The East should be wild and UGA vs UT, and UGA vs UF, UF vs UT should provide the answer to who is the SEC’s best this season. Can’t wait!
By Noodle_Arm_Stafford
May 8, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this
Hey By Really great post about Noodle Arm Stafford stats and true. Mutts fans don’t get the picture. Stafford just an average qb.
By Flyin Dawg
May 8, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this
Man, I wish I knew where the gator blog was so I could go on there and rip on their fans. Wouldn’t that be fun. Does Oklahoma even have a website for it’s fans? I get real tired of you idiots coming on our blog and trashing us. Must be nice to be unemployed and surfing the net at your Mom’s house all day. Get a life.
By GATORZONE
May 8, 2008 4:26 PM | Link to this
GatorsdrinkZima… Wooo you got us good!!! Zima
Jorts
Wow, you are really hitting on all cylinders. Way to hit us where it hurts. You got us good!!
By mariettaou
May 8, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this
Lowcountry bulldawg
get some help dude
By Sick of AJC
May 8, 2008 4:32 PM | Link to this
I’m sick and tired of the Atlanta newspaper being a forum for the ball licking Georgia fans. Why not write of something interesting like NASCAR.
By dewayne
May 8, 2008 4:36 PM | Link to this
to clear the record the sec has a better vs record against the pac-10 The SEC leads the Pac-10 59-36-5 (.615). Since 1990, the SEC leads by a much closer 10-9 (.526). Against the big 12 The SEC leads the Big 12 in all-time head-to-head match-ups with an 17-15-0 (.531) record. Against the Big 12’s predecessor (the Big Eight) the SEC had a 43-43-6 (.500) record. Against the Big 10
The SEC leads the Big Ten with a 65-46-2 all-time record.
The SEC has a .584 winning percentage versus the Big Ten.
By Tim Tebow
May 8, 2008 4:36 PM | Link to this
I hope I don’t have to cry again in Jacksonville and walk off the field without shaking anyone’s hand. Ooof…, Rennie Curran just hit me again.
By Tim Tebow
May 8, 2008 4:39 PM | Link to this
Sick of AJC’s jorts are too tight
By mariettaou
May 8, 2008 4:39 PM | Link to this
flyin dawg
i do get on ou’s website and i am employed, i live in Atlanta and have to hear you idiots brag about how good you are, when you have nothing to brag about
By andrew
May 8, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this
2 words: Pat White
Ask UGA how good he is.
By Gators Drink Zima
May 8, 2008 4:44 PM | Link to this
GAYTORZONE i know it stucks when your jean shorts make you a little testy because they are so short… or is it that your gold rope chain necklace is stuck in your chest hair.
By Thomaston Dawg
May 8, 2008 4:46 PM | Link to this
You’re right, we’re not nearly as good at getting blown out in bowl games.
By dewayne
May 8, 2008 4:53 PM | Link to this
Andrew the first half he was very good,but the second half he didnt show up!!! So take that for what it is worth!!!
By mariettaou
May 8, 2008 5:02 PM | Link to this
Thomaston Dawg,
You are good at losing too very weak teams though.
By Flyin Dawg
May 8, 2008 5:02 PM | Link to this
How many UGA fans frequent that Oklahoma blog there big guy? My point was stick to your own website and allow us the courtesy of speaking amongst ourselves.
It is amazing that people in Atlanta talk about the dawgs! I can’t believe it! Up here in Philly all they talk about is LSU! Give me a break.
By Erk
May 8, 2008 5:04 PM | Link to this
Baloney is the official Debbie Downer of the ajc sports blogs. Dude, Stafford is 100 times more accurate than Vick. Terrible comparison. Stafford’s accuracy will steadily improve.
By Paddy
May 8, 2008 5:11 PM | Link to this
mariettaou… I thought this blog was about SEC qb’s? Blackford @ OU, is that Oregon, Oklahoma or Ohio U? Don’t know this guy, sorry.
By Bob Sacamano
May 8, 2008 5:13 PM | Link to this
It boils down to this: in the NFL, Matt Stafford will be the first QB chosen in the draft. Tim Teblow will be the fifth fullback chosen in the fourth round.
Tim Teblow = Eric Crouch.
He is not a good quarterback, Chip. He’s a throwing fullback. He’s a wingback. He does what he does well in his college-only offense. But the NFL is not stupid. After the disasters of Convick, Alex Smith, and yes, Vince Young, the NFL is done with drafting throwing fullbacks. The NFL is done with drafting college qb’s who can’t read defenses. Tim Teblow can’t read defenses. He gets the offensive audibles from the sideline after the coaches appraise the defense. Matt Stafford called 80% of his own plays from the line last year. He’s an actual quarterback. Tim Teblow is not a quarterback.
Tim Teblow will not be an NFL quarterback. Why do you think the Pryor kid decided to go to OSU and not Michigan? Because he wants to at least have a shot to play QB in the NFL. He knew, and now many of the hybrid QBs are seeing as well, that if he went to a spread offense, he’d never learn how to be a QB. Urban Liar doesn’t create quarterbacks. RichRod doesn’t create quarterbacks. They create wingbacks. The NFL has not use for the QBs who play in a spread. They’ve learned their lesson the hard way. No one is going to give Teblow big time money to play QB. Not after ConVick. Not after Smith. And not after Mr. 9 TDs and 17 INTs Vince Young.
Like I said before: Tim Teblow = Eric Crouch = NO CHANCE in the NFL.
By shane#1
May 8, 2008 5:43 PM | Link to this
I love the OU comments. Two BCS upset losses in a row. Who is paying off Their coach? Tony Soprano?
By Tommy Bow Wow den
May 8, 2008 5:44 PM | Link to this
Tebow is much better than the overrated Stafford Kid. There is no comparison of the the two to my great QB Cullen Harper. Stafford has no one to catch his zingers when he throws off his back foot, plus he has no touch whatsoever. Stafford looks a little herky jerky at times. Watch Cullen Harper light it up with our big man Aaron Kelly along with our RB tandem THUNDER and LIGHTNING! Clemson will win its 14th ACC Championship and even surpass UGA in National Championships 2 to 1. Go TIGERS! ROAR! ROAR! ROAR!
By gatorman770
May 8, 2008 6:03 PM | Link to this
Tim Tebow throws with accuracy and touch stepping into the throw both short and long all over the field. That’s why he broke and holds the majority of the Florida High School Quarterback records for passing as well as rushing. Mattphew Shafford has yet to master the concept of touch when throwing the football which is partially the reason why the receivers have not been consistantly catching his passes. Even with a better offensive line during his second year he still constantly throws off his back foot when there’s no pass rush in his face. Mechanically Ugay’s past two quarterbacks,Greeme and Shockily had better technique.
By Gen Neyland
May 8, 2008 6:26 PM | Link to this
Stafford deserves the preseason accolades. Mr. Heisman deserves a sidebar note….If Stafford had carried UGA on his shoulders last year like Tebow did the Gators, another Heisman would have come to Athens…BTW, although Crompton tutored under Ainge and Cut, Clawson will be the ultimate force in Crompton’s tomorrows. Crompton will surprise some folks if he understands ‘it’s not all on him’…and no, he shouldn’t be given the status of Stafford and Tebow unless he earns it…Remember 1998…Go Vols
By AltamahaDawg
May 8, 2008 6:33 PM | Link to this
How funny was that where Chip said forget about “who’s better” part. Like he’s never read this thing before.
By reality check
May 8, 2008 6:45 PM | Link to this
Staford definitely has had technical problems including throwing off his back foot. But he has developed touch. He has also done a very good job of managing the team well and he is improving. He has tremendous arm strength, intelligence and potential. Nobody in college ball throws it deep better than Stafford and I look for continued improvement from him.
The key to Georgia’s offense is running the ball at least 60% of the time. When Georgia has passed 50% or more we have lost every timeduring the Richt era. When we run 60% or more we have won very time during the Richt era.I look for Stafford’s statistics to improve considerably this year, especially if we keep running the ball.
By tdog
May 8, 2008 7:29 PM | Link to this
if richt keeps pulling his antics and gimmicks all we will have is a bunch of thugs. he reminds me of the old ball coach. stafford will be running the prison crew.
By Johnny Danger Dawg
May 8, 2008 7:57 PM | Link to this
I’m a Dawg fan, but let’s give Tebow the credit he deserves. Tebow CAN throw too, and he’s one of the most valuable players in college football. UF’s weakness is their defense, NOT their QB.
By scoreboard
May 8, 2008 8:29 PM | Link to this
While I have tons of respect for Tebow let’s look at one thing. Jacksonville 2007
Stafford - 42 Tebow - 30
By War Eagle
May 8, 2008 8:44 PM | Link to this
Tebow, Stafford are top two QB with Tebow better athlete, arm strength and running ability. Stafford is a Pro type QB with good range and arm leverage who will make more $$$ on the next level.UGA, Florida, LSU, Auburn and Tenn AGAIN will be SEC best.
By Steve
May 8, 2008 8:56 PM | Link to this
While Stafford seems to have the physical tools and the skill set, his stats would strongly indicate otherwise. What am I missing??
By Big Dawg
May 8, 2008 8:58 PM | Link to this
No, arm strength goes to Stafford by a long shot. He throws alot harder than Tebow.
By Lowcountry Bulldawg
May 8, 2008 9:09 PM | Link to this
MaryanneOU,
I need help? You cannot stand the SEC and all there is about it, but you found yourself posting most of the afternoon about the SEC. Intersting in who might actually need the help.
And the Samantha Bradford line was funny. Ya gotta admit.
By jason
May 8, 2008 9:45 PM | Link to this
gator fans eat boogers!
By Ted
May 8, 2008 9:52 PM | Link to this
Let me get this straight…Stafford has a completion % slightly above 50% & has barely thrown more TD’s than INT’s and this is considered good?!?! Just because you’ve got a strong arm doesn’t mean you are a great QB. You need accuracy, good decision making, and leadership. I haven’t seen him demonstrate these things on a consistent basis. But who knows..once he’s in the NFL & actually gets some good coaching & has receivers that can catch, he might become a serviceable QB.
By HT
May 8, 2008 9:59 PM | Link to this
Georgia has more talent than anyone in the country. I predict Georgia will run the tables. Beat Bama twice. Win the tough SEC! Then defeat Southern Cal 17-16 in the National Championship game. All the pieces are in place. Talent & depth!