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DEL.ICIO.USWill Stafford, Moreno turn pro in ‘09
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
The NFL draft was completed on Sunday. Which, of course, meant that the 2009 mock drafts came out on Monday. If you’re a fan of the Georgia Bulldogs, they certainly made for some interesting reading.
It appears to be the general consensus among the draft gurus that quarterback Matthew Stafford not only will turn pro after this, his junior season, but that he’s the odds-on favorite to be the top quarterback picked in the 2009 draft. Sportsillustrated.cnn.com and CBSSportsline.com both saw it that way. So did ESPN and a few others.
That’s nothing new for Stafford. He was, after all, projected to be an eventual No. 1 NFL draft pick by ESPN’s Mel Kiper when Stafford was still at Highland Park High. But the fervor extends to Georgia tailback Knowshon Moreno as well. One columnist for ESPN.com not only has Stafford going third to the Kansas City Chiefs, but also has Knowshon Moreno going 10th to the New York Jets. Something called walterfootball.com has Moreno, a redshirt sophomore next season, going 15th to the Texans and Stafford not going anywhere (but Tim Tebow going fourth overall and the first quarterback taken).
The accuracy of such speculative drafts aside, it is clear there is is going to be some strong appeal for Georgia’s two offensive stars to come out after next season. I’m interested in finding out where y’all stand on that.
Would anybody have a problem with that? Granted, most fans just want all their teams’ players to exhaust their eligibility before moving on to play for pay. But if Stafford or Moreno either one is assured (is there such a thing in a competitive draft?) of becoming a top 10 pick after next season, there’s not much of a question whether they should come out. That’s a lifetime opportunity that may never come again.
Conversely, should achieving their college goals and completing their educations be the first priority?
For what it’s worth, Stafford told me in an interview this past season it has always been his intention to play all four years in college. And, historically, quarterbacks appear to benefit more from staying through their senior senior seasons. It’s an incredibly cerebral position.
It’s a different story for running backs. Because of the physical demands of the position, they have a limited shelf life on the next level. The average NFL tenure for a tailback remains less than five years. So you better take what you can get while you’re healthy. I’ve never asked Moreno about it but will next time we talk.
I still think what the Bulldogs do on the field this fall will have some bearing on their decisions. Both are very outspoken in their desire to bring a national championship to Georgia. If the Dogs do what a lot of people are projecting them to do, certainly no one could begrudge either of these guys for leaving. But what if the Dogs come up short? Is that even more incentive to come back and try again?
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By PTC DAWG
April 30, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this
If both are projected HIGH in the first round, I wouldn’t blame them.
That being said, the Dawg in me wants Stafford to have TWO SECC rings before leaves.
By me
April 30, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this
He needs to stay all four years at UGA. Most QB’s that leave early, are usually busts.
By DowntownDawg
April 30, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this
I’d like to see them stay and finish the 4, but I can also see where losing a chance at it, and something happening in the last year causing them unable to go that high, or even go at all.
However, if they preform better than last year, and UGA does what is projected, I could only imagine the offers that would be rolling around the tables.
Sic’ Em.
By Elliot Garcia
April 30, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this
Yes, they will be be drafted by the Canadian Football League
By Bryan
April 30, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this
Nat’l championship they are gone, anything short they are back
By Rick
April 30, 2008 1:43 PM | Link to this
If they can come out and be a first round pick, do it. they have time to finish the degree later. They have no debt to the school ( the university makes a fortune off their sweat). It is an opportunity to be financially set for life. If it was a accounting major who could leave a year early go make 30 mil and finish school later do you think they would?
By Marco
April 30, 2008 1:43 PM | Link to this
I’m a Dawg fan, but if Moreno has a productive year then he should be out of Athens. As much as I hate to see him go…thats the truth. Matthew can afford to hang around for 2 reason. He’ll benefit from having 4 yrs of college ball and it’ll help my Dawgs keep their bite….Go Dawgs..bring the Nat’l Title back ‘tween the Hedges…
By Ginny
April 30, 2008 1:43 PM | Link to this
I think Stafford will stay and Moreno will leave. Both will be great in the NFL
By Doug
April 30, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this
Moreno’s family is very poor. He’s going to leave school to take care of them. And, clearly, he’s ready for the NFL.
By ED
April 30, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this
they both have alot to prove before being considered nfl material
By Jeff
April 30, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this
No way, either one turns pro early.
By DWG
April 30, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this
We do still have a season to play right? This is ridiculous. Can we get a projection of this years high school junior class in the 2012 draft?
By Rick
April 30, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this
elliott, get off the computer and go take a nap, the grown up are talking
By OZZFEST
April 30, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this
To illustrate the worthlessness of draft projections, as of October 2007 Andre Woodson (QB for KY) was tabbed as the #1 pick in the 2008 draft. Not quite the case, was it?
By Bronc
April 30, 2008 1:48 PM | Link to this
Stafford stays…Moreno goes..
By Elliot Garcia is smart
April 30, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this
Elliot Garcia… That really was the funniest thing I heard all day long. I appreciate it. Now go back to class, little fella
By JT
April 30, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this
There’s another already HEISMAN winner south of the GA border that may have something to say about that……
By piermontdawg
April 30, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this
how ‘bout a national championship this year…..AND THEY BOTH COME BACK FOR THE BACK TO BACK!
By UGA fan
April 30, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this
lets focus in winning the SEC and the title. If history is any indication, UGA will just reload and still be good.
By Neil
April 30, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this
We win a national championship this year, Stafford and Moreno might go. If we fall short, they both stay.
SEC championship is great, but this is not the David Greene years anymore… it’s time to show the country how great we are/have been. Unfortunately, they don’t see it as much with one of the winiest records in the past 5 years and top 10 finishes. You gotta win the whole d*mn thing…
By terry hoage
April 30, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this
I believe that if UGA wins the NC and Stafford and Moreno are in top three in the HT voting that they should come out. Anything less that that they stay for 4.
By WS
April 30, 2008 1:56 PM | Link to this
Doug I disagree with you- You said Moreno was ready for the NFL…Maybe after the 08 season..But not now. Pls clarify your statement. Also, how do you know his family is poor????
By TBR
April 30, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this
If they both go pro georgia will suffer greatly the next year and everyone knows it.
By Johnny H
April 30, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this
If Knowshon gets projected that high at the end of the year he should go. Stafford has a little more leeway financially to risk another year to help polish his game and reduce his turnovers.
They can also take out insurance policies if they get hurt.
That being said, I think both would like to get an SEC Championship ring. If they come short this year (very possible based on the S.O.S.) I could see them coming back for it.
Go Dawgs
By Will
April 30, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this
Does anyone see how many kids USC(not the USC Lamecocks)has in the draft every year? They simply reload thru recruiting, and I think UGA is near that point. So yes, we are going to lose these type of players occasionally. Just as long as we can recruit it’s all good.
By matt_T
April 30, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this
Way too early to care or think about it.
By ATL GATOR
April 30, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this
Yes, they will both leave after this year’s 4 loss season.
By Me
April 30, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this
If Matthew Stafford turns pro in ‘09, he’ll amount to nothing more than another Jeff George, minus the attitude. That kid definitely needs to stick around…and I think he will.
By ATL GATOR
April 30, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this
National Championship? Are you kidding doggies?
By jcarson
April 30, 2008 2:11 PM | Link to this
Georgia fans are setting themselves up for a huge disappointment this season. I smell 8-4 coming.
By ATL GATOR
April 30, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this
Better score more than 7 pts this year vs SC.
By chris
April 30, 2008 2:16 PM | Link to this
Knowshon is not smart enought to stay in school for the long term, he will take the money and run as fast as he can when he can. UGB QBs are a joke in the NFL anyway. So, Fat Matt should get the paper before he does a damn thing. He can’t even sniff Greene’s Jock and where is DAVID?
By ATL GATOR
April 30, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this
Jcarson- You are correct. I see 4 losses as well. Chick Fil A Bowl isn’t bad. They will fill up the Dome.
By Carlton
April 30, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this
My across the street neighbor knows Stafford’s Great Aunt’s dentist’s brother. He says he’s staying in school.
By ATL GATOR
April 30, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this
26 TDs and 23 Ints. through his Soph. season…and he’s good?
By ed
April 30, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this
8-4.. highly doubtful.. last time we did that was 2001
By BBR
April 30, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this
Poor ATL Gator, he’s so upset that UGA got the top quarterback recruit. Oh, and the whipping the Dawgs put on the lizards last year. I would be upset and defensive too, ATL Gator.
By Mike
April 30, 2008 2:37 PM | Link to this
Why are we even concerned about this when the season STILL 4 months away?? The ONLY thing we should be concerned about is what Ga. Southern has to contend with and how we make it to 1-0! I understand with the draft just ending to be tempted to wonder..whos coming out in 2009;where they will fit in..etc. but enough with the future..the time is now and not about the 2009 BCS Championship game, early departures to the NFL..all that talk will stop if we go 0-1 from looking ahead to the finish line and beyond…the time to wonder about who goes pro early is AFTER the body of work is done to warrant such discussion.
By ted
April 30, 2008 2:39 PM | Link to this
ATL GAYTOR go talk your BS elsewhere
By ron
April 30, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this
Atl Gator - winters over pal. get your jean shorts out!!
By ChampDawg
April 30, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this
Absolutely not!!!
Stafford is no where near NFL ready and a 3rd round pick at best. Hell, he hasn’t impressed me at the college level yet…….. great potential and talent, has the tools, but not near ready.
Moreno is too young and too small. Needs at least 2 more years at UGA.
By Pago Flyer
April 30, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this
Could we just beat the Vols and ‘Cocks this year!!! And the Gators again! }]
By steve
April 30, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this
If leaving early means they get drafted in the 1st round, then by all means they should leave early. The whole purpose for college is get an education so that you can get a good job. Being an NFL football player is a good job.
By NewnanDawgCF
April 30, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this
Obviously a slow news day for the blog. This conversation really is ridiculous right now. Almost as ridiculous as Gator fans blogging about it. BTW, Gators living in glass houses should not throw stones about recent records vs. South Carolina or 4 loss seasons and trips to lesser bowls.
By AltamahaDawg
April 30, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this
First of all, we are talking about a columnist who not only predicts that Altanta will get the first pick, but that they also trade it to KC. Can you say Tara cards? And a couple of those are just the same guy in reprint.
The standard for Stafford is never going to be “if first round”. He goes in the first round with a broken leg. NOBODY in the world will advice him to leave short of inking one of the top spots. I dont think he will get those assurances unless he stays, then its almost a guarantee. Make a living with your arm, stay as long as possible. Name the top Qbs in the NFL and what did they do. Name the guys who left early. Compare.
Moreno is a differnt story. Make a living with your legs, go as early as possible. Way too many factor to predict though.
I’d also say that the 09’season will be very appealing for a college football player.
By Chico
April 30, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this
Look what happened to Brian Brohm for staying his senior year.
By jon-jon
April 30, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this
well put mike! let’s focus on what we have to do FIRST and that is to win the first game. i hate over-confidence.
By Bill
April 30, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this
Chip I can assure you tha Tebow is not leaving UF after this season.
By Chico
April 30, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this
Look what happened to Brian Brohm for staying his senior year.
By Rob
April 30, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this
Hey Atl Gator, go wash your blue-jean shorts and then let’s talk!
By Chico
April 30, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this
I’d like them to stay, but look what happened to Brian Brohm this year.
By Bohgey
April 30, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this
I have always been curious about Moreno’s family’s financial status. If the bucks are waved at him, I think he would go to take care of his family. If he stays, he should figure a trophy room in his next house, including one certain coveted trophy.
Stafford would benefit from an extra year. The media has his back, if he does well, a Heisman nomination could come for him as well. Think about the three Bulldogs in the Downtown Athletic Club, Knowshon, Stafford, and UGA. That would make for good TV.
By RFP
April 30, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this
ATL Gator - do you think Aaron Murray will be able to step for Stafford once he goes pro? Murray did throw for 4,000 yards as a junior in FL last year. Too bad Meyer couldn’t sign the top in state QB.
42-30….su(k it
By Cuz
April 30, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this
Good one ATL Gator. Remember kids, this is a what if blog. You can make it up any way you want. I think if the stars line up and Venus and Mars are alright and we win the MNC and Stafford and Moreno finish first and second in the Heisman and if the Vulcans finnally decide to make contact, yeah they could leave for the NFL. I wonder if I could throw in inventing a cold water fusion reactior for kicks.
By reservoirDAWG
April 30, 2008 3:03 PM | Link to this
Free jorts and mullet cuts to the first 50 customers at Sports Clips tomorrow.
By shane #1
April 30, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this
Turning pro early is always a risk, but so is coming back for one more year, I think that any kid that is projected to be atop ten pick should declare for the draft. Not only is there the prospect of injury, one could have a bad year or more competition could emerge. Two examples, Quinn and Brohm, had They come out early They should have been top ten picks. Quinn would not have been shown up in the Sugar Bowl by Russell, and Brohm would not have had that mediocre senior year. Coming back probably cost each several million bucks! Acording to the pundits, next years crop of qbs will be very weak unless Stafford and Tebow come out early. If either has a Heisman caliber year They should turn pro. Stafford has the edge so far because UGA often lines up with the qb under center, while UF uses the spread and lines up in the shotgun. Many Pro teams are not enamored wth spread qbs, the spread uses very simple reads and the qbs do not get the reps to learn proper footwork when dropping back. That being said, if Stafford, Moreno, or Tebow is “the next big thing” and Their name is onthe lips of all the draft “wizards” next spring they had better take the money and run!
By ga
April 30, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this
Both of these athletes are going to be SOLID PROS…Moreno is a can’t miss…GA produce solid NFL backs over the years…not so for the QB’S…I truly believe that Stafford is going to be the exception…he has all the the tools to be the GREATEST QB from UGA (EVER)…If they do not win (NCAA—not the SEC)it all this year, it will be a major letdown!!!
By timthebrave
April 30, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this
Stafford should stay. He improved so much over the last year and I think that 4 years will do him good. I would like Moreno to stay all 4 years but if he can get a top 10 pick then I understand him going to the NFL. If he is predicted less than top 10 then he should come back another year. Go Dawgs!
By Ol Ball Coach
April 30, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this
If history repeats, as I suspect, then NO neither will be drafted near the first round. Mark Richt has proven to make highly touted school All Americans… underachievers.
By Jim Witkowski
April 30, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this
Naw. Ain’t either one of them coming out early to go to the NFL. They are TRUE dawgs and will put the Dawgs before fame or money. I smell at least 2 NC’s for them two.
Go Dawgs!!!! Dic’em! Woof, Woof, Woof!!!
By Tom
April 30, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this
Go Dawgs Go. War Eagle!
By Bob
April 30, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this
I think money has done more harm than good to sports, in general, and I hope both would cherish playing for the love of the game while they can.
By Kevin
April 30, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this
NFL stands for “Not For Long”.
Take the money and run.
UGA will always be there for them if/when they decide to get their degree.
By cno
April 30, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this
In a perfect world the Falcons draft Dorsey and a top notch left tackle this year and trade up to get Matt Stafford in 2009. Season tickets would sell out in minutes.
I hope Stafford and Mareno stay. It all depends on how this year turns out. I think Mareno will leave and Stafford will stay. I hope Caleb King and the stable of backs really progress this year.
By Kevin
April 30, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this
NFL stands for “Not For Long”.
Take the money and run.
UGA will always be there for them if/when they decide to get their degree.
By Kevin
April 30, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this
NFL stands for “Not For Long”.
Take the money and run.
UGA will always be there for them if/when they decide to get their degree.
By Maj
April 30, 2008 3:17 PM | Link to this
Not sure if both will go in ‘09 or not. If/ when they do and are 100% healthy I see Stafford and Moreno going top 5.
Tim Tebow? 2nd 3rd rounder. The NFL doesn’t take many running QB’s after Mike Vick. Look at Meyer’s other QB’s. Where did the National title QB go? See, I can’t even remember his name. Alex Smith is a dud. So, to bad for Tebow. The only place he’s going is behind the Georgia Bulldogs in the SEC , HAHA!!!!!
By JB
April 30, 2008 3:17 PM | Link to this
ATL GATOR : Better take a hard look at UF QB’s in the NFL before you throw rocks at us, including the Ole Ball coach…..Not a whole lot to crow about.
By shotgun
April 30, 2008 3:19 PM | Link to this
Ol Ball Coach, give me some examples of Richt taking high school All Americans and making them underachievers?
By Erk
April 30, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this
Isn’t this just a wee bit premature? Let’s play each game one at a time and see what happens. Perfect example of a slow media day. Just my opinion, but Stafford should stay all 4 years and Moreno should stay at least 3 years regardless of how next season turns out.
By gfed2008
April 30, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this
Im an Auburn fan, but I do think these kids should leave if they are sure 1st round picks. We will probably lose Marks after next season too. Stafford is already being called the #1 pick, so if he has that, don’t be stupid like Brohm or Leinart and mess up by staying for your senior season. Tebow should leave Florida also.
By JOHN TALMADGE
April 30, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this
Moreno going pro is the most ridiculous concept in the world. I’m a Georgia fan but also realistic. HE’S JUST A RISING SOPHOMORE IN TERMS OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL EXPERIENCE. THIS COMING YEAR WILL BE HIS SECOND..I REPEAT SECOND.
He’s not that big either. Defenses will begin to figure him out but he’ll remain very good, just not 1300 yards a year good.
If there is a shot of him going pro, it will be before his Senior year, NOT HIS JUNIOR YEAR.
By Cuz
April 30, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this
yeah ol ball coach, we should run that richt fella outa town on a rail. Whatever possessed us to make that man a coach.
By reservoirDAWG
April 30, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this
ATLGAYTUR had to go. He is trimming my hedges.
By GW
April 30, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this
We aren’t satisfied with speculating months in advance of the 08 season so we start on the 09 draft. Can’t we just slow down a little? How about a report on the status of Larry Munson?
By mcdawg
April 30, 2008 3:36 PM | Link to this
this is the kinda of nonsense talk that leads to over confidence, complacency and all the other things that the dawgs will need to put aside if they are to make a run at it-our O-ine is still quite young and inexperienced-check back 11 months from now on this topic
By Cuz
April 30, 2008 3:40 PM | Link to this
Some of ya”ll are ruining our play in the land of make believe.
While we are still there, Steve Supperior decides to give up coaching after a 1-10 season and joins the PGA Seniors tour. His weekly play at the Augusta National makes him an automatic qualifier.
By ET
April 30, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this
With Tennessee Tech coming to Sanford Stadium in 2009, both had better stay.
By Alan
April 30, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this
Turn Pro—-Make the $$$. Your opportunity to go Pro is limited to your age and health. Colleges have been around for years and you can always complete your degree on-line or in the off-season.
By raindawg722
April 30, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this
The kid who lives down the street can wing a nerf ball three city blocks and he’s only seven. I’ve got him on my board as the first overall pick in the 2022 draft.
By Elliot Garcia
April 30, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this
They’ll be drafted by the new football league being started up in 09 by Mark Cuban.
By Cuz
April 30, 2008 4:00 PM | Link to this
Vandy, Tennessee and Tennessee Tech in 2009. If we win all three can we claim Tennessee state champs?
By shane #1
April 30, 2008 4:00 PM | Link to this
Cuz, HOW RIGHT YOU ARE!!! That man Rich ain’t no Coach! All the time worrin’ about players feeln’s and makin’em go to Church and takin’em on mission trips and such.By God, in My day We had real Coachs! Men like Bear and Wally Butts. Men that drunk likker ev’ry night and kicked them boys in the butt and giv’em the cussin’ out that They needed! I tell You what pard, oncet that Feller Bobby Knight left there ain’t no more Coachs left in this Country! I ain’t stupid, I know He was a roundball coach, but You tell Me if that Knight feller could’na get in some sorrya** lineman’s ear and make Him move His fat butt! I’ll bet He would grab one by the face mask and rattle His brains too! Yeah, ol’ Knight ain’t got no job right now, We orta fire that Rich and just hire that Knight feller! Fellers like Rich is why Our youngun’s is goin’ to hell in a handbasket!
By War Eagle
April 30, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this
Dawg fans, Be careful about predicting a national title. Not trying to p** you guys off but we were picked two years ago to win it all and we lost 2 games. You have a very tough schedule in front of you and you should just focus on that. UGA has a very talented team and should do well but predictions rarely come true. Hell, the Braves are picked by Peter Gammons to win the World Series. They’ll be lucky if they finish third in their division.
By Fort Worth Dawg
April 30, 2008 4:09 PM | Link to this
I’d put Stafford at 50-50 leaving UGA with a great 2008 season. I’d put Moreno at 80-20 leaving with a great 2008 season. I hope neither has a serious injury. I wonder if Moreno might have fewer carries in 2008 and if that might affect his draft status. I don’t think so as long as the yards per carry are hot numbers.
By Cuz
April 30, 2008 4:11 PM | Link to this
Wareagle, you forgot, todays topic is in the Land of Make Believe, three blocks over from Narnia and one half mile from Oz.
By Nick
April 30, 2008 4:16 PM | Link to this
How about this: Leave them both alone about it and let them decide when and if the time and opportunity comes. Let them both focus on this up-coming season and their education. I want another National Title so bad I can’t stand it. I’m running short on patience. Go Dawgs!
By buck
April 30, 2008 4:16 PM | Link to this
Why stay at UGA to get a degree in Recreation and Leisure? A real UGA major. Might as well go to NFL. Only 50% of football players ever graduate there anyway.
By takedowndawg
April 30, 2008 4:19 PM | Link to this
ATL gator; “An imagination is a terrible thing to waste”, and you are clearly not wasting yours! Wishful hoping for us to have an 8-4 season. I know it is hard to see your gators crumbling around the edges, begining with the lost of AARON MURRAY! It’s bad when you can’t even signup your state best athletes after a recent NC. Go DAWGS! AND AFTERWARDS, THE REST OF THE SEC!!! — takedowndawg
By cadman
April 30, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this
The most interesting thing about this is that the espn reporter referred to in this blog had Michael Johnson DE Georgia Tech going #2 in the 2009 draft ahead of Stafford and the GT “hometown” a*******wipe doesn’t even mention that. They also have GT’s Vance Walker going in the first round also at 29. Amazing what lengths this rags goes to in order to support the “hometeam”!
By War Eagle
April 30, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this
Cuz, I’m just giving some friendly advice. UGA has every right to be proud of their team. Just curious, who you pull for? With all of your rhetoric it better be a team that has won the NT.
By bob
April 30, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this
Matt should leave…just look what happened to Matt Lienart and Brian Brohm after they decided to come back for their senior year. Those decisions cost them tons of money.
By shane #1
April 30, 2008 4:29 PM | Link to this
Cuz, I doan know what to make of You pard. Oncet You start talkin’ sense You start talkin’ foolish again! What did them words mean, and whar in the hell is Narina? Is it up around Atlaner somwhar or is it whar them rich folks keep There boats?
By War Eagle
April 30, 2008 4:32 PM | Link to this
takedowndawg, As far as trash talking ATL Gator goes, you do know they won back to back basketball championships, the Heisman, and a football championship in the last two years, right? You guys didn’t win the SEC let alone your division. And, saying you’re going to take down the entire SEC is going to be tougher than you think. Knowshon ran all over Auburn last year. Trust me, McFadden did the same thing and he got 23 yards against us last year. Knowshon will not do the same this year. Go ahead and feel free to trash talk me but hey, we’ve gone undefeated twice in the past 20 years. A feat NO SEC team has done except Tennessee.
By Vince
April 30, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this
I hope Talmadge is right.
Should have played him Frosh year!
By Cuz
April 30, 2008 4:36 PM | Link to this
shane, I saw this Narnia in a movie once. Nice hotel above a beach with a pet Lion to keep the gators off the beach with dem jean shorts.
By Columbia Dawg
April 30, 2008 4:39 PM | Link to this
I think Stafford has plenty of room for improvement. He has the physical tools to play the position, but his footwork and accuracy still leaves a lot to be desired.
If Moreno has another year like 2007, I wouldn’t be surprised to see him leave. I’d be surprised if played all four years.
By cashmoney
April 30, 2008 4:40 PM | Link to this
Let’s see. Stay and risk a career ending injury or take the millions and run. Pretty much a no brainer there.
By Najeh Davenpoop
April 30, 2008 4:44 PM | Link to this
I’m a (casual) Tech fan, and this is just another reason why the Matt Ryan pick was idiotic for the Falcons. Stafford is 10,000 times better than Ryan. If the Falcons had taken Dorsey and waited for next year to take Stafford they would have been SO much better off.
By Cuz
April 30, 2008 4:44 PM | Link to this
Well War if Knowshon cannot run on the vaunted Wareagle defense, we will just let Caleb King take care of the job.
Your turn.
By War Eagle
April 30, 2008 4:50 PM | Link to this
Cuz, My turn to what? Your making predictions just like you were making fun of others for doing. With all the trash talk you were spewing I figured you to be a Bammer fan.
By Chip Towers
April 30, 2008 4:56 PM | Link to this
cadman: I appreciate your remarks but need to point out two things: (1) This is a UGA blog; (2) Michael Johnson will be a senior next season. The discussion is whether these juniors should turn pro.
By shane #1
April 30, 2008 4:59 PM | Link to this
Cuz, most of these guys are too serious too early. We are talking about next year’s draft. In reality so much can change by then. All We are doing is speculating. The NFL scouts may find a cb from Slippery Rock that runs a 4.2 40 backwards and Tebow, Stafford, and Moreno will all be on the backburner. Take care Bud, I’ll be back’atcha later.
By jferg NC dawg
April 30, 2008 5:03 PM | Link to this
CHIP- what is Moreno’s official 40 time? I love Knowshon (have his black jersey) but does he have the top end speed needed for NFL? Just wondering
By Cuz
April 30, 2008 5:06 PM | Link to this
War, look at the topic, if there ever was a make believe blog this is it. We don’t know what will happen in 2008 until the team takes the field. We don’t know if Stafford and Moreno will put up the numbers that will have pro scouts drooling. All of this is make believe.
What I believe is that the Dawgs will have a pretty good team. I think we challenge for the East and if the cards fall right and we don’t slip up, we have as good a chance to win it as anyone. But with our brutal schedule, I will not bet the farm, the back forty or the dairy farm’s drainage pond on winning the MNC. Hey if we do, I will be ecstatic, if we don’t so what. I just want us to have a great year with few injuries. Especially career ending injuries. We will play them one game at a time and go from there. Looking forward to our annual border war, I assume the game will be much closer this year. Best regards, Cuz..
By rampdawg
April 30, 2008 5:07 PM | Link to this
By ATL GATOR
April 30, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this
Jcarson- You are correct. I see 4 losses as well. Chick Fil A Bowl isn’t bad. They will fill up the Dome.
We might lose 4, but none of ‘em will be to the gators. Book it.
By Desert Dawg
April 30, 2008 5:08 PM | Link to this
There are lots of pieces to this zig saw puzzle. For instance, SEC Championship, National Championship, All-American selections, Heisman Trophy, injuries, just to name a few. I think Moreno would love to win the Heisman and if he does, he is gone regardless of any titles or championships. If not, he might stay for another year.
Stafford I think will play for 4. I believe that Tebow will come out this year (he already has the Heisman) and Stafford would do better in a draft without competition from Tebow. But, Stafford has to perform. So far, he hasn’t demonstrated he is anything more than a very good athlete with trememdous potiental. So lets hope that this is the year.
Regardless, Ga has a pipeline full of great athletes and fine young men who will made us proud for years to come.
By GaytorBilly
April 30, 2008 5:09 PM | Link to this
YES!!! And they will still suck!!! Go Gaytors!!! Get R Done!!!
By Wardamneagle
April 30, 2008 5:17 PM | Link to this
All you dogs are celebrating the National Title and the season hasn’t even started. You are in the SEC and you have to Beat Florida, Auburn, TENN, and your trusty Gamecocks. Unless you guys have a new end zone dance (FL) or Pink Jerseys (AU) then the hype is over. Beat Florida again and then u can start thinking Title! It’s a long season in the SEC!!!
By JJ
April 30, 2008 5:26 PM | Link to this
Neither or them are even from the state of Georgia. How can anyone call them true DAWGS? They’ll be gone this time next year.
By godawg
April 30, 2008 5:28 PM | Link to this
It won’t matter either way. The Dawgs will just RELOAD.
WOOF!
By War Eagle
April 30, 2008 5:33 PM | Link to this
Cuz, Besides me, you may be the most unbiased person commenting. You make some rather good points about injuries and the fact that the season hasn’t started adds to it. Auburn was picked in 03 to win it all. We got buried by USC and finished with 4 or 5 loses. Don’t remember because it’s too painful. The next season we went undefeated and a computer caused us to sit out the NC game. ESPN analysts were saying that since we played the Citadel we were a joke. Now, Bama, I believe, plays Citadel and no one is saying anything. We beat 6 top ten teams that year. Tennessee twice and VT. USC beat VT by 6 points that year but hey, ESPN hails them as the greatest team ever. We need a playoff system just like every other sport. Only then will the true champion emerge. IF UGA wins the SEC I will gladly pull for them. I can not stand the Big 10 and despise the Pac 10. It’s a joke. I’m sure UGA could have handed USC’s arse on a platter and served it to them with a side of butter.
By GTFan
April 30, 2008 5:39 PM | Link to this
I know most of you don’t care for a GT guy’s two cents so I’ll be quick:
Runningbacks should always go pro ASAP. They hit their peaks early and have the shortest career spans. The sooner they can bank NFL millions, they need to take it.
Quarterbacks are a much bigger tossup. However, Stafford can take advantage of the fact that the 2009 QB class might be the worst of all time. That by default makes a questionable prospect like Tim Tebow a guaranteed top 10 pick and Stafford is less of a question mark (since Tebow’s skill set is so unique). Much like how Alex Smith became a #1 pick. The QB’s that year were terrible prospects. In any other year he doesn’t get picked until round 4 or 5. I mean what QBs are really out there next year? Carpenter? Painter? Cantwell? Any of those guys really excite anyone?
Both are gone after next season.
By Mike
April 30, 2008 5:44 PM | Link to this
Stafford (aka the kid from deliverance) finished 6th in stats. in the SEC last year. Stay in school, he will need the education to get a job.
By Chip Towers
April 30, 2008 5:44 PM | Link to this
jferg NC dawg: I don’t know what Moreno’s official 40-yard dash time is — Georgia doesn’t publicize them anymore — but I don’t think it’s great. Now I believe his 20-yard time and certainly his 10-yard time might be among the quickest ever. Jim Brown once said those were the only distances that mattered for a RB.
By crazydawg
April 30, 2008 5:45 PM | Link to this
If stafford’s projected a top 5 pick after this year, I go. Also, remember Matt Leinhart, number one pick in 2005, stays and drops to number 10 in 2006. If the opportunity is there then he needs to take it. And as for Moreno, if he stays, it’s great, but if he’s projected high, he deserves to go early.
By Chip Towers
April 30, 2008 5:52 PM | Link to this
GTfan is right. On first blush, the 2009 class for quarterbacks doesn’t look real stout at the moment. Tim Tebow and Sam Bradford (Oklahoma) could choose to come out, too. Or not.
By Paddy
April 30, 2008 5:53 PM | Link to this
To Elliot Garcia…You need a better grasp on how college athletics works. If you are just new to the game I can understand your comment. More time studing the game and its inter-workings will give you a better insight. Football is fun once you understand how it works.
By Voice of Reason
April 30, 2008 5:57 PM | Link to this
Chip —
I think cadman’s point is that the (UG)AJC provides commentary on Stafford and Moreno, but omits any mention of Tech players projected in any mock draft (class standing aside). Sorry, but sometimes folks have a hard time finding a place to make comments such as his since the (UG)AJC panders to the alumni and redneck fans of that bastian of mediocrity in Athens.
Have you ever noticed the dichotomy of the editorial pages and the sports pages of the AJC: the editorials largely cater to the non-southern, transplant, liberal, urban elite who live inside the perimeter. The sports posts cater to the redneck, uneducated (could probably throw UGA alums in the uneducated bucket), outside-the-perimeter folks, and the frat boy UGA clones, who largely vote conservative. Interesting balance of trying to sell papers/generate revenue while still paying homage to the liberal elite media establishment (read: NY Times et al) through the editorial pages.
Have you seen the comments Terence Moore gets to his blogs? Has Cynthia Tucker ever responded to such bigoted posts?
The liberal editorial page likes to say to the redneck southerners, “you’re not smart enough to know what’s best for you or what to think, let us tell you”. The sports page says, “hey, I mone giv y’all whachall wont… Jorja Futball newz”
By crazydawg
April 30, 2008 6:01 PM | Link to this
Also, if you people(idiot Gator fans) think Tebow is going to get drafted before Stafford is mind-boggling. NO ONE will change their system to fit Tebow’s style. He’ll get drafted high, I will admit that but he will be a bust in 3 years. Mark it down. You guys have heard of Alex Smith right. What’s he doing right now? Yeah he’s playing but he’s an absolute bust for the number one pick
By Lilburn Dawg
April 30, 2008 6:12 PM | Link to this
Moreno may leave early, but if so, I hope he forgoes his senior season only. He’s good enough to be in the NFL. From what I’ve learned, I don’t think the NFL scouts have been that impressed with Stafford’s abilities as a QB. Overall, he’s seen as an average SEC QB….nothing that great except a very strong arm, but not that accurate with it and no footwork. I don’t expect that he will be a very high draft pick after he leaves college.
By curious
April 30, 2008 6:17 PM | Link to this
chip, do you know the accuracy of last year’s draft predictions prior to the beginning of the college season?
By daledog
April 30, 2008 6:26 PM | Link to this
Tebow will be an NFL fullback for short yardage.
By Jim
April 30, 2008 6:33 PM | Link to this
Why don’t you stick to reporting sprots news rather than trying to make it! Did either Stafford or Moreno tell you they were thinking of leaving early? Until they do you have nothing but fodder that makes you look stupid. Leave them alone and let them play ball!!!
By FL DAWG
April 30, 2008 6:34 PM | Link to this
Unless Stafford leads the country in passing yds/game, yds/attempt/completion% and just about every other statistic he needs to stay. He has not been the greatest QB in the SEC, let alone in the country. He has all the tools and talent in the world, he just has not proved he knows how to use them consistently. I like his potential and hope he shows it this year. Moreno on the otherhand, with another solid year of 1200+ yds and he should go. If either of them get a deal like the OL to Miami, then they had better take it. I hope both have great seasons, win a NC and stay.
By boots
April 30, 2008 7:05 PM | Link to this
Dang, Moreno played one season. I think the guy is amazing, and I hope he lights up the SEC this year, but we should shelve this talk until next February. As for Stafford, he has a lot of potential and finally started living up to it the second half of last year, but he still has a way to go. Then again, if someone wants to pay them top 10 $, then good for them. We have talent up & down, and I want what is best for the kids and the program. My needs come third, but I still want the NC!!!
By for real?
April 30, 2008 7:59 PM | Link to this
Come on, both have a chance to play at the next level and probably moreno moreso than Stafford. Both will be back. I personally think Stafford is overrated though. His pass completion rating is similar to Reggie Ball!
By Chip Towers
April 30, 2008 8:17 PM | Link to this
Voice of Reason: I couldn’t disagree with you more on every single count… .
Jim: Not sure how you figure I’m trying to make the news rather than report. This is a blog where we discuss topics. Several national dot-coms placed Stafford and Moreno among the top 10 picks for next season’s NFL draft. I noted that the two players are still underclassmen and would have a decision to make if these predictions were correct. Pretty interesting subject I thought… .
crazydawg: Never say never when it comes to the draft. Tebow could well end up a higher draft pick and/or a better NFL quarterback than Stafford… .
curious: good question about the accuracy of predictions. I noticed that http://www.walterfootball.com lists all its mock draft from years past on its website. And I read somewhere earlier today that Kentucky’s Andre Woodson was projected to be this year’s No. 1 pick back in October. As it turned out he went in the sixth round to the Giants. But I’ll try to locate one or two significant ones and report back… .
By PoundDawg
April 30, 2008 8:21 PM | Link to this
I have no problem with the status quo of college football players utilizing colleges/scholarships to hone their skills in an attempt to bolster their ulterior motives. That being said, both Stafford and Moreno are far from being ready to go pro. It remains to be seen in the eyes of many of us if Stafford will ever be anything more than a “heralded high school recuit” and an average SEC quarterback. Time will tell. I agree with others regarding Moreno’s coming out and the life expectancy of an NFL running back. He will however, benefit greatly by waiting until after his junior year to declare. Bottom line…I just love the Dawgs and we’ll be fine with or without those guys.
By Gene
April 30, 2008 8:34 PM | Link to this
I really don’t see Knowshon coming out early. I think he’ll be gone after his Junior year (when Stafford leaves after his senior year).
By PoundDawg
April 30, 2008 8:41 PM | Link to this
I have no problem with the status quo of college football players utilizing colleges/scholarships to hone their skills in an attempt to bolster their ulterior motives. That being said, both Stafford and Moreno are far from being ready to go pro. It remains to be seen in the eyes of many of us if Stafford will ever be anything more than a “heralded high school recuit” and an average SEC quarterback. Time will tell. I agree with others regarding Moreno’s coming out and the life expectancy of an NFL running back. He will however, benefit greatly by waiting until after his junior year to declare. Bottom line…I just love the Dawgs and we’ll be fine with or without those guys.
By Festus
April 30, 2008 8:44 PM | Link to this
I thinks ole Staffard and Noshun needs to whup them thare game chikins first. Laist yers game wers embarrassin. Them thare doagies needs to whups Vandee too and git sum respecs. Maybee another remaitch with thait thare itty bitty staite skool in Waste Virginny will git um respecs so them boys can go high in the draift!
By shane#1
April 30, 2008 8:49 PM | Link to this
Chip, thanks for the topic, and You are right about the national pundits picking Stafford for # 1 qb. Stafford plays under center a lot and has a stromg arm, pro scouts like that. Personally I would not draft a qb, unless He is another Moreno{the other one},or Manning with a top ten pick. Most top ten qbs and rbs never live up to Their hype. I think Tebow needs work because UF always uses the shotgun formation. He may be okay as a drop back passer, but no one has seen it. The coachs at UGA planned to work with Stafford on His footwork and delivery and I understand that at the spring game both were much improved. War Eagle, Cuz likes to have fun on the blogs, as the best Tech qb of all time said, it ain’t nothin’ but a game, dog!