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Will Stafford, Moreno turn pro in ‘09
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
The NFL draft was completed on Sunday. Which, of course, meant that the 2009 mock drafts came out on Monday. If you’re a fan of the Georgia Bulldogs, they certainly made for some interesting reading.
It appears to be the general consensus among the draft gurus that quarterback Matthew Stafford not only will turn pro after this, his junior season, but that he’s the odds-on favorite to be the top quarterback picked in the 2009 draft. Sportsillustrated.cnn.com and CBSSportsline.com both saw it that way. So did ESPN and a few others.
That’s nothing new for Stafford. He was, after all, projected to be an eventual No. 1 NFL draft pick by ESPN’s Mel Kiper when Stafford was still at Highland Park High. But the fervor extends to Georgia tailback Knowshon Moreno as well. One columnist for ESPN.com not only has Stafford going third to the Kansas City Chiefs, but also has Knowshon Moreno going 10th to the New York Jets. Something called walterfootball.com has Moreno, a redshirt sophomore next season, going 15th to the Texans and Stafford not going anywhere (but Tim Tebow going fourth overall and the first quarterback taken).
The accuracy of such speculative drafts aside, it is clear there is is going to be some strong appeal for Georgia’s two offensive stars to come out after next season. I’m interested in finding out where y’all stand on that.
Would anybody have a problem with that? Granted, most fans just want all their teams’ players to exhaust their eligibility before moving on to play for pay. But if Stafford or Moreno either one is assured (is there such a thing in a competitive draft?) of becoming a top 10 pick after next season, there’s not much of a question whether they should come out. That’s a lifetime opportunity that may never come again.
Conversely, should achieving their college goals and completing their educations be the first priority?
For what it’s worth, Stafford told me in an interview this past season it has always been his intention to play all four years in college. And, historically, quarterbacks appear to benefit more from staying through their senior senior seasons. It’s an incredibly cerebral position.
It’s a different story for running backs. Because of the physical demands of the position, they have a limited shelf life on the next level. The average NFL tenure for a tailback remains less than five years. So you better take what you can get while you’re healthy. I’ve never asked Moreno about it but will next time we talk.
I still think what the Bulldogs do on the field this fall will have some bearing on their decisions. Both are very outspoken in their desire to bring a national championship to Georgia. If the Dogs do what a lot of people are projecting them to do, certainly no one could begrudge either of these guys for leaving. But what if the Dogs come up short? Is that even more incentive to come back and try again?
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By PTC DAWG
April 30, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this
If both are projected HIGH in the first round, I wouldn’t blame them.
That being said, the Dawg in me wants Stafford to have TWO SECC rings before leaves.
By me
April 30, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this
He needs to stay all four years at UGA. Most QB’s that leave early, are usually busts.
By DowntownDawg
April 30, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this
I’d like to see them stay and finish the 4, but I can also see where losing a chance at it, and something happening in the last year causing them unable to go that high, or even go at all.
However, if they preform better than last year, and UGA does what is projected, I could only imagine the offers that would be rolling around the tables.
Sic’ Em.
By Elliot Garcia
April 30, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this
Yes, they will be be drafted by the Canadian Football League
By Bryan
April 30, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this
Nat’l championship they are gone, anything short they are back
By Rick
April 30, 2008 1:43 PM | Link to this
If they can come out and be a first round pick, do it. they have time to finish the degree later. They have no debt to the school ( the university makes a fortune off their sweat). It is an opportunity to be financially set for life. If it was a accounting major who could leave a year early go make 30 mil and finish school later do you think they would?
By Marco
April 30, 2008 1:43 PM | Link to this
I’m a Dawg fan, but if Moreno has a productive year then he should be out of Athens. As much as I hate to see him go…thats the truth. Matthew can afford to hang around for 2 reason. He’ll benefit from having 4 yrs of college ball and it’ll help my Dawgs keep their bite….Go Dawgs..bring the Nat’l Title back ‘tween the Hedges…
By Ginny
April 30, 2008 1:43 PM | Link to this
I think Stafford will stay and Moreno will leave. Both will be great in the NFL
By Doug
April 30, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this
Moreno’s family is very poor. He’s going to leave school to take care of them. And, clearly, he’s ready for the NFL.
By ED
April 30, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this
they both have alot to prove before being considered nfl material
By Jeff
April 30, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this
No way, either one turns pro early.
By DWG
April 30, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this
We do still have a season to play right? This is ridiculous. Can we get a projection of this years high school junior class in the 2012 draft?
By Rick
April 30, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this
elliott, get off the computer and go take a nap, the grown up are talking
By OZZFEST
April 30, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this
To illustrate the worthlessness of draft projections, as of October 2007 Andre Woodson (QB for KY) was tabbed as the #1 pick in the 2008 draft. Not quite the case, was it?
By Bronc
April 30, 2008 1:48 PM | Link to this
Stafford stays…Moreno goes..
By Elliot Garcia is smart
April 30, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this
Elliot Garcia… That really was the funniest thing I heard all day long. I appreciate it. Now go back to class, little fella
By JT
April 30, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this
There’s another already HEISMAN winner south of the GA border that may have something to say about that……
By piermontdawg
April 30, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this
how ‘bout a national championship this year…..AND THEY BOTH COME BACK FOR THE BACK TO BACK!
By UGA fan
April 30, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this
lets focus in winning the SEC and the title. If history is any indication, UGA will just reload and still be good.
By Neil
April 30, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this
We win a national championship this year, Stafford and Moreno might go. If we fall short, they both stay.
SEC championship is great, but this is not the David Greene years anymore… it’s time to show the country how great we are/have been. Unfortunately, they don’t see it as much with one of the winiest records in the past 5 years and top 10 finishes. You gotta win the whole d*mn thing…
By terry hoage
April 30, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this
I believe that if UGA wins the NC and Stafford and Moreno are in top three in the HT voting that they should come out. Anything less that that they stay for 4.
By WS
April 30, 2008 1:56 PM | Link to this
Doug I disagree with you- You said Moreno was ready for the NFL…Maybe after the 08 season..But not now. Pls clarify your statement. Also, how do you know his family is poor????
By TBR
April 30, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this
If they both go pro georgia will suffer greatly the next year and everyone knows it.
By Johnny H
April 30, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this
If Knowshon gets projected that high at the end of the year he should go. Stafford has a little more leeway financially to risk another year to help polish his game and reduce his turnovers.
They can also take out insurance policies if they get hurt.
That being said, I think both would like to get an SEC Championship ring. If they come short this year (very possible based on the S.O.S.) I could see them coming back for it.
Go Dawgs
By Will
April 30, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this
Does anyone see how many kids USC(not the USC Lamecocks)has in the draft every year? They simply reload thru recruiting, and I think UGA is near that point. So yes, we are going to lose these type of players occasionally. Just as long as we can recruit it’s all good.
By matt_T
April 30, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this
Way too early to care or think about it.
By ATL GATOR
April 30, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this
Yes, they will both leave after this year’s 4 loss season.
By Me
April 30, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this
If Matthew Stafford turns pro in ‘09, he’ll amount to nothing more than another Jeff George, minus the attitude. That kid definitely needs to stick around…and I think he will.
By ATL GATOR
April 30, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this
National Championship? Are you kidding doggies?
By jcarson
April 30, 2008 2:11 PM | Link to this
Georgia fans are setting themselves up for a huge disappointment this season. I smell 8-4 coming.
By ATL GATOR
April 30, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this
Better score more than 7 pts this year vs SC.
By chris
April 30, 2008 2:16 PM | Link to this
Knowshon is not smart enought to stay in school for the long term, he will take the money and run as fast as he can when he can. UGB QBs are a joke in the NFL anyway. So, Fat Matt should get the paper before he does a damn thing. He can’t even sniff Greene’s Jock and where is DAVID?
By ATL GATOR
April 30, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this
Jcarson- You are correct. I see 4 losses as well. Chick Fil A Bowl isn’t bad. They will fill up the Dome.
By Carlton
April 30, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this
My across the street neighbor knows Stafford’s Great Aunt’s dentist’s brother. He says he’s staying in school.
By ATL GATOR
April 30, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this
26 TDs and 23 Ints. through his Soph. season…and he’s good?
By ed
April 30, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this
8-4.. highly doubtful.. last time we did that was 2001
By BBR
April 30, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this
Poor ATL Gator, he’s so upset that UGA got the top quarterback recruit. Oh, and the whipping the Dawgs put on the lizards last year. I would be upset and defensive too, ATL Gator.
By Mike
April 30, 2008 2:37 PM | Link to this
Why are we even concerned about this when the season STILL 4 months away?? The ONLY thing we should be concerned about is what Ga. Southern has to contend with and how we make it to 1-0! I understand with the draft just ending to be tempted to wonder..whos coming out in 2009;where they will fit in..etc. but enough with the future..the time is now and not about the 2009 BCS Championship game, early departures to the NFL..all that talk will stop if we go 0-1 from looking ahead to the finish line and beyond…the time to wonder about who goes pro early is AFTER the body of work is done to warrant such discussion.
By ted
April 30, 2008 2:39 PM | Link to this
ATL GAYTOR go talk your BS elsewhere
By ron
April 30, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this
Atl Gator - winters over pal. get your jean shorts out!!
By ChampDawg
April 30, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this
Absolutely not!!!
Stafford is no where near NFL ready and a 3rd round pick at best. Hell, he hasn’t impressed me at the college level yet…….. great potential and talent, has the tools, but not near ready.
Moreno is too young and too small. Needs at least 2 more years at UGA.
By Pago Flyer
April 30, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this
Could we just beat the Vols and ‘Cocks this year!!! And the Gators again! }]
By steve
April 30, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this
If leaving early means they get drafted in the 1st round, then by all means they should leave early. The whole purpose for college is get an education so that you can get a good job. Being an NFL football player is a good job.
By NewnanDawgCF
April 30, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this
Obviously a slow news day for the blog. This conversation really is ridiculous right now. Almost as ridiculous as Gator fans blogging about it. BTW, Gators living in glass houses should not throw stones about recent records vs. South Carolina or 4 loss seasons and trips to lesser bowls.
By AltamahaDawg
April 30, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this
First of all, we are talking about a columnist who not only predicts that Altanta will get the first pick, but that they also trade it to KC. Can you say Tara cards? And a couple of those are just the same guy in reprint.
The standard for Stafford is never going to be “if first round”. He goes in the first round with a broken leg. NOBODY in the world will advice him to leave short of inking one of the top spots. I dont think he will get those assurances unless he stays, then its almost a guarantee. Make a living with your arm, stay as long as possible. Name the top Qbs in the NFL and what did they do. Name the guys who left early. Compare.
Moreno is a differnt story. Make a living with your legs, go as early as possible. Way too many factor to predict though.
I’d also say that the 09’season will be very appealing for a college football player.
By Chico
April 30, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this
Look what happened to Brian Brohm for staying his senior year.
By jon-jon
April 30, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this
well put mike! let’s focus on what we have to do FIRST and that is to win the first game. i hate over-confidence.
By Bill
April 30, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this
Chip I can assure you tha Tebow is not leaving UF after this season.
By Chico
April 30, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this
Look what happened to Brian Brohm for staying his senior year.
By Rob
April 30, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this
Hey Atl Gator, go wash your blue-jean shorts and then let’s talk!
By Chico
April 30, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this
I’d like them to stay, but look what happened to Brian Brohm this year.
By Bohgey
April 30, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this
I have always been curious about Moreno’s family’s financial status. If the bucks are waved at him, I think he would go to take care of his family. If he stays, he should figure a trophy room in his next house, including one certain coveted trophy.
Stafford would benefit from an extra year. The media has his back, if he does well, a Heisman nomination could come for him as well. Think about the three Bulldogs in the Downtown Athletic Club, Knowshon, Stafford, and UGA. That would make for good TV.
By RFP
April 30, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this
ATL Gator - do you think Aaron Murray will be able to step for Stafford once he goes pro? Murray did throw for 4,000 yards as a junior in FL last year. Too bad Meyer couldn’t sign the top in state QB.
42-30….su(k it
By Cuz
April 30, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this
Good one ATL Gator. Remember kids, this is a what if blog. You can make it up any way you want. I think if the stars line up and Venus and Mars are alright and we win the MNC and Stafford and Moreno finish first and second in the Heisman and if the Vulcans finnally decide to make contact, yeah they could leave for the NFL. I wonder if I could throw in inventing a cold water fusion reactior for kicks.
By reservoirDAWG
April 30, 2008 3:03 PM | Link to this
Free jorts and mullet cuts to the first 50 customers at Sports Clips tomorrow.
By shane #1
April 30, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this
Turning pro early is always a risk, but so is coming back for one more year, I think that any kid that is projected to be atop ten pick should declare for the draft. Not only is there the prospect of injury, one could have a bad year or more competition could emerge. Two examples, Quinn and Brohm, had They come out early They should have been top ten picks. Quinn would not have been shown up in the Sugar Bowl by Russell, and Brohm would not have had that mediocre senior year. Coming back probably cost each several million bucks! Acording to the pundits, next years crop of qbs will be very weak unless Stafford and Tebow come out early. If either has a Heisman caliber year They should turn pro. Stafford has the edge so far because UGA often lines up with the qb under center, while UF uses the spread and lines up in the shotgun. Many Pro teams are not enamored wth spread qbs, the spread uses very simple reads and the qbs do not get the reps to learn proper footwork when dropping back. That being said, if Stafford, Moreno, or Tebow is “the next big thing” and Their name is onthe lips of all the draft “wizards” next spring they had better take the money and run!
By ga
April 30, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this
Both of these athletes are going to be SOLID PROS…Moreno is a can’t miss…GA produce solid NFL backs over the years…not so for the QB’S…I truly believe that Stafford is going to be the exception…he has all the the tools to be the GREATEST QB from UGA (EVER)…If they do not win (NCAA—not the SEC)it all this year, it will be a major letdown!!!
By timthebrave
April 30, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this
Stafford should stay. He improved so much over the last year and I think that 4 years will do him good. I would like Moreno to stay all 4 years but if he can get a top 10 pick then I understand him going to the NFL. If he is predicted less than top 10 then he should come back another year. Go Dawgs!
By Ol Ball Coach
April 30, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this
If history repeats, as I suspect, then NO neither will be drafted near the first round. Mark Richt has proven to make highly touted school All Americans… underachievers.
By Jim Witkowski
April 30, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this
Naw. Ain’t either one of them coming out early to go to the NFL. They are TRUE dawgs and will put the Dawgs before fame or money. I smell at least 2 NC’s for them two.
Go Dawgs!!!! Dic’em! Woof, Woof, Woof!!!
By Tom
April 30, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this
Go Dawgs Go. War Eagle!
By Bob
April 30, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this
I think money has done more harm than good to sports, in general, and I hope both would cherish playing for the love of the game while they can.
By Kevin
April 30, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this
NFL stands for “Not For Long”.
Take the money and run.
UGA will always be there for them if/when they decide to get their degree.
By cno
April 30, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this
In a perfect world the Falcons draft Dorsey and a top notch left tackle this year and trade up to get Matt Stafford in 2009. Season tickets would sell out in minutes.
I hope Stafford and Mareno stay. It all depends on how this year turns out. I think Mareno will leave and Stafford will stay. I hope Caleb King and the stable of backs really progress this year.
By Kevin
April 30, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this
NFL stands for “Not For Long”.
Take the money and run.
UGA will always be there for them if/when they decide to get their degree.
By Kevin
April 30, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this
NFL stands for “Not For Long”.
Take the money and run.
UGA will always be there for them if/when they decide to get their degree.
By Maj
April 30, 2008 3:17 PM | Link to this
Not sure if both will go in ‘09 or not. If/ when they do and are 100% healthy I see Stafford and Moreno going top 5.
Tim Tebow? 2nd 3rd rounder. The NFL doesn’t take many running QB’s after Mike Vick. Look at Meyer’s other QB’s. Where did the National title QB go? See, I can’t even remember his name. Alex Smith is a dud. So, to bad for Tebow. The only place he’s going is behind the Georgia Bulldogs in the SEC , HAHA!!!!!
By JB
April 30, 2008 3:17 PM | Link to this
ATL GATOR : Better take a hard look at UF QB’s in the NFL before you throw rocks at us, including the Ole Ball coach…..Not a whole lot to crow about.
By shotgun
April 30, 2008 3:19 PM | Link to this
Ol Ball Coach, give me some examples of Richt taking high school All Americans and making them underachievers?
By Erk
April 30, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this
Isn’t this just a wee bit premature? Let’s play each game one at a time and see what happens. Perfect example of a slow media day. Just my opinion, but Stafford should stay all 4 years and Moreno should stay at least 3 years regardless of how next season turns out.
By gfed2008
April 30, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this
Im an Auburn fan, but I do think these kids should leave if they are sure 1st round picks. We will probably lose Marks after next season too. Stafford is already being called the #1 pick, so if he has that, don’t be stupid like Brohm or Leinart and mess up by staying for your senior season. Tebow should leave Florida also.
By JOHN TALMADGE
April 30, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this
Moreno going pro is the most ridiculous concept in the world. I’m a Georgia fan but also realistic. HE’S JUST A RISING SOPHOMORE IN TERMS OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL EXPERIENCE. THIS COMING YEAR WILL BE HIS SECOND..I REPEAT SECOND.
He’s not that big either. Defenses will begin to figure him out but he’ll remain very good, just not 1300 yards a year good.
If there is a shot of him going pro, it will be before his Senior year, NOT HIS JUNIOR YEAR.
By Cuz
April 30, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this
yeah ol ball coach, we should run that richt fella outa town on a rail. Whatever possessed us to make that man a coach.
By reservoirDAWG
April 30, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this
ATLGAYTUR had to go. He is trimming my hedges.
By GW
April 30, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this
We aren’t satisfied with speculating months in advance of the 08 season so we start on the 09 draft. Can’t we just slow down a little? How about a report on the status of Larry Munson?
By mcdawg
April 30, 2008 3:36 PM | Link to this
this is the kinda of nonsense talk that leads to over confidence, complacency and all the other things that the dawgs will need to put aside if they are to make a run at it-our O-ine is still quite young and inexperienced-check back 11 months from now on this topic
By Cuz
April 30, 2008 3:40 PM | Link to this
Some of ya”ll are ruining our play in the land of make believe.
While we are still there, Steve Supperior decides to give up coaching after a 1-10 season and joins the PGA Seniors tour. His weekly play at the Augusta National makes him an automatic qualifier.
By ET
April 30, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this
With Tennessee Tech coming to Sanford Stadium in 2009, both had better stay.
By Alan
April 30, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this
Turn Pro—-Make the $$$. Your opportunity to go Pro is limited to your age and health. Colleges have been around for years and you can always complete your degree on-line or in the off-season.
By raindawg722
April 30, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this
The kid who lives down the street can wing a nerf ball three city blocks and he’s only seven. I’ve got him on my board as the first overall pick in the 2022 draft.
By Elliot Garcia
April 30, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this
They’ll be drafted by the new football league being started up in 09 by Mark Cuban.
By Cuz
April 30, 2008 4:00 PM | Link to this
Vandy, Tennessee and Tennessee Tech in 2009. If we win all three can we claim Tennessee state champs?
By shane #1
April 30, 2008 4:00 PM | Link to this
Cuz, HOW RIGHT YOU ARE!!! That man Rich ain’t no Coach! All the time worrin’ about players feeln’s and makin’em go to Church and takin’em on mission trips and such.By God, in My day We had real Coachs! Men like Bear and Wally Butts. Men that drunk likker ev’ry night and kicked them boys in the butt and giv’em the cussin’ out that They needed! I tell You what pard, oncet that Feller Bobby Knight left there ain’t no more Coachs left in this Country! I ain’t stupid, I know He was a roundball coach, but You tell Me if that Knight feller could’na get in some sorrya** lineman’s ear and make Him move His fat butt! I’ll bet He would grab one by the face mask and rattle His brains too! Yeah, ol’ Knight ain’t got no job right now, We orta fire that Rich and just hire that Knight feller! Fellers like Rich is why Our youngun’s is goin’ to hell in a handbasket!
By War Eagle
April 30, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this
Dawg fans, Be careful about predicting a national title. Not trying to p** you guys off but we were picked two years ago to win it all and we lost 2 games. You have a very tough schedule in front of you and you should just focus on that. UGA has a very talented team and should do well but predictions rarely come true. Hell, the Braves are picked by Peter Gammons to win the World Series. They’ll be lucky if they finish third in their division.
By Fort Worth Dawg
April 30, 2008 4:09 PM | Link to this
I’d put Stafford at 50-50 leaving UGA with a great 2008 season. I’d put Moreno at 80-20 leaving with a great 2008 season. I hope neither has a serious injury. I wonder if Moreno might have fewer carries in 2008 and if that might affect his draft status. I don’t think so as long as the yards per carry are hot numbers.
By Cuz
April 30, 2008 4:11 PM | Link to this
Wareagle, you forgot, todays topic is in the Land of Make Believe, three blocks over from Narnia and one half mile from Oz.
By Nick
April 30, 2008 4:16 PM | Link to this
How about this: Leave them both alone about it and let them decide when and if the time and opportunity comes. Let them both focus on this up-coming season and their education. I want another National Title so bad I can’t stand it. I’m running short on patience. Go Dawgs!
By buck
April 30, 2008 4:16 PM | Link to this
Why stay at UGA to get a degree in Recreation and Leisure? A real UGA major. Might as well go to NFL. Only 50% of football players ever graduate there anyway.
By takedowndawg
April 30, 2008 4:19 PM | Link to this
ATL gator; “An imagination is a terrible thing to waste”, and you are clearly not wasting yours! Wishful hoping for us to have an 8-4 season. I know it is hard to see your gators crumbling around the edges, begining with the lost of AARON MURRAY! It’s bad when you can’t even signup your state best athletes after a recent NC. Go DAWGS! AND AFTERWARDS, THE REST OF THE SEC!!! — takedowndawg
By cadman
April 30, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this
The most interesting thing about this is that the espn reporter referred to in this blog had Michael Johnson DE Georgia Tech going #2 in the 2009 draft ahead of Stafford and the GT “hometown” a*******wipe doesn’t even mention that. They also have GT’s Vance Walker going in the first round also at 29. Amazing what lengths this rags goes to in order to support the “hometeam”!
By War Eagle
April 30, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this
Cuz, I’m just giving some friendly advice. UGA has every right to be proud of their team. Just curious, who you pull for? With all of your rhetoric it better be a team that has won the NT.
By bob
April 30, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this
Matt should leave…just look what happened to Matt Lienart and Brian Brohm after they decided to come back for their senior year. Those decisions cost them tons of money.
By shane #1
April 30, 2008 4:29 PM | Link to this
Cuz, I doan know what to make of You pard. Oncet You start talkin’ sense You start talkin’ foolish again! What did them words mean, and whar in the hell is Narina? Is it up around Atlaner somwhar or is it whar them rich folks keep There boats?
By War Eagle
April 30, 2008 4:32 PM | Link to this
takedowndawg, As far as trash talking ATL Gator goes, you do know they won back to back basketball championships, the Heisman, and a football championship in the last two years, right? You guys didn’t win the SEC let alone your division. And, saying you’re going to take down the entire SEC is going to be tougher than you think. Knowshon ran all over Auburn last year. Trust me, McFadden did the same thing and he got 23 yards against us last year. Knowshon will not do the same this year. Go ahead and feel free to trash talk me but hey, we’ve gone undefeated twice in the past 20 years. A feat NO SEC team has done except Tennessee.
By Vince
April 30, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this
I hope Talmadge is right.
Should have played him Frosh year!
By Cuz
April 30, 2008 4:36 PM | Link to this
shane, I saw this Narnia in a movie once. Nice hotel above a beach with a pet Lion to keep the gators off the beach with dem jean shorts.
By Columbia Dawg
April 30, 2008 4:39 PM | Link to this
I think Stafford has plenty of room for improvement. He has the physical tools to play the position, but his footwork and accuracy still leaves a lot to be desired.
If Moreno has another year like 2007, I wouldn’t be surprised to see him leave. I’d be surprised if played all four years.
By cashmoney
April 30, 2008 4:40 PM | Link to this
Let’s see. Stay and risk a career ending injury or take the millions and run. Pretty much a no brainer there.
By Najeh Davenpoop
April 30, 2008 4:44 PM | Link to this
I’m a (casual) Tech fan, and this is just another reason why the Matt Ryan pick was idiotic for the Falcons. Stafford is 10,000 times better than Ryan. If the Falcons had taken Dorsey and waited for next year to take Stafford they would have been SO much better off.
By Cuz
April 30, 2008 4:44 PM | Link to this
Well War if Knowshon cannot run on the vaunted Wareagle defense, we will just let Caleb King take care of the job.
Your turn.
By War Eagle
April 30, 2008 4:50 PM | Link to this
Cuz, My turn to what? Your making predictions just like you were making fun of others for doing. With all the trash talk you were spewing I figured you to be a Bammer fan.
By Chip Towers
April 30, 2008 4:56 PM | Link to this
cadman: I appreciate your remarks but need to point out two things: (1) This is a UGA blog; (2) Michael Johnson will be a senior next season. The discussion is whether these juniors should turn pro.
By shane #1
April 30, 2008 4:59 PM | Link to this
Cuz, most of these guys are too serious too early. We are talking about next year’s draft. In reality so much can change by then. All We are doing is speculating. The NFL scouts may find a cb from Slippery Rock that runs a 4.2 40 backwards and Tebow, Stafford, and Moreno will all be on the backburner. Take care Bud, I’ll be back’atcha later.
By jferg NC dawg
April 30, 2008 5:03 PM | Link to this
CHIP- what is Moreno’s official 40 time? I love Knowshon (have his black jersey) but does he have the top end speed needed for NFL? Just wondering
By Cuz
April 30, 2008 5:06 PM | Link to this
War, look at the topic, if there ever was a make believe blog this is it. We don’t know what will happen in 2008 until the team takes the field. We don’t know if Stafford and Moreno will put up the numbers that will have pro scouts drooling. All of this is make believe.
What I believe is that the Dawgs will have a pretty good team. I think we challenge for the East and if the cards fall right and we don’t slip up, we have as good a chance to win it as anyone. But with our brutal schedule, I will not bet the farm, the back forty or the dairy farm’s drainage pond on winning the MNC. Hey if we do, I will be ecstatic, if we don’t so what. I just want us to have a great year with few injuries. Especially career ending injuries. We will play them one game at a time and go from there. Looking forward to our annual border war, I assume the game will be much closer this year. Best regards, Cuz..
By rampdawg
April 30, 2008 5:07 PM | Link to this
By ATL GATOR
April 30, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this
Jcarson- You are correct. I see 4 losses as well. Chick Fil A Bowl isn’t bad. They will fill up the Dome.
We might lose 4, but none of ‘em will be to the gators. Book it.
By Desert Dawg
April 30, 2008 5:08 PM | Link to this
There are lots of pieces to this zig saw puzzle. For instance, SEC Championship, National Championship, All-American selections, Heisman Trophy, injuries, just to name a few. I think Moreno would love to win the Heisman and if he does, he is gone regardless of any titles or championships. If not, he might stay for another year.
Stafford I think will play for 4. I believe that Tebow will come out this year (he already has the Heisman) and Stafford would do better in a draft without competition from Tebow. But, Stafford has to perform. So far, he hasn’t demonstrated he is anything more than a very good athlete with trememdous potiental. So lets hope that this is the year.
Regardless, Ga has a pipeline full of great athletes and fine young men who will made us proud for years to come.
By GaytorBilly
April 30, 2008 5:09 PM | Link to this
YES!!! And they will still suck!!! Go Gaytors!!! Get R Done!!!
By Wardamneagle
April 30, 2008 5:17 PM | Link to this
All you dogs are celebrating the National Title and the season hasn’t even started. You are in the SEC and you have to Beat Florida, Auburn, TENN, and your trusty Gamecocks. Unless you guys have a new end zone dance (FL) or Pink Jerseys (AU) then the hype is over. Beat Florida again and then u can start thinking Title! It’s a long season in the SEC!!!
By JJ
April 30, 2008 5:26 PM | Link to this
Neither or them are even from the state of Georgia. How can anyone call them true DAWGS? They’ll be gone this time next year.
By godawg
April 30, 2008 5:28 PM | Link to this
It won’t matter either way. The Dawgs will just RELOAD.
WOOF!
By War Eagle
April 30, 2008 5:33 PM | Link to this
Cuz, Besides me, you may be the most unbiased person commenting. You make some rather good points about injuries and the fact that the season hasn’t started adds to it. Auburn was picked in 03 to win it all. We got buried by USC and finished with 4 or 5 loses. Don’t remember because it’s too painful. The next season we went undefeated and a computer caused us to sit out the NC game. ESPN analysts were saying that since we played the Citadel we were a joke. Now, Bama, I believe, plays Citadel and no one is saying anything. We beat 6 top ten teams that year. Tennessee twice and VT. USC beat VT by 6 points that year but hey, ESPN hails them as the greatest team ever. We need a playoff system just like every other sport. Only then will the true champion emerge. IF UGA wins the SEC I will gladly pull for them. I can not stand the Big 10 and despise the Pac 10. It’s a joke. I’m sure UGA could have handed USC’s arse on a platter and served it to them with a side of butter.
By GTFan
April 30, 2008 5:39 PM | Link to this
I know most of you don’t care for a GT guy’s two cents so I’ll be quick:
Runningbacks should always go pro ASAP. They hit their peaks early and have the shortest career spans. The sooner they can bank NFL millions, they need to take it.
Quarterbacks are a much bigger tossup. However, Stafford can take advantage of the fact that the 2009 QB class might be the worst of all time. That by default makes a questionable prospect like Tim Tebow a guaranteed top 10 pick and Stafford is less of a question mark (since Tebow’s skill set is so unique). Much like how Alex Smith became a #1 pick. The QB’s that year were terrible prospects. In any other year he doesn’t get picked until round 4 or 5. I mean what QBs are really out there next year? Carpenter? Painter? Cantwell? Any of those guys really excite anyone?
Both are gone after next season.
By Mike
April 30, 2008 5:44 PM | Link to this
Stafford (aka the kid from deliverance) finished 6th in stats. in the SEC last year. Stay in school, he will need the education to get a job.
By Chip Towers
April 30, 2008 5:44 PM | Link to this
jferg NC dawg: I don’t know what Moreno’s official 40-yard dash time is — Georgia doesn’t publicize them anymore — but I don’t think it’s great. Now I believe his 20-yard time and certainly his 10-yard time might be among the quickest ever. Jim Brown once said those were the only distances that mattered for a RB.
By crazydawg
April 30, 2008 5:45 PM | Link to this
If stafford’s projected a top 5 pick after this year, I go. Also, remember Matt Leinhart, number one pick in 2005, stays and drops to number 10 in 2006. If the opportunity is there then he needs to take it. And as for Moreno, if he stays, it’s great, but if he’s projected high, he deserves to go early.
By Chip Towers
April 30, 2008 5:52 PM | Link to this
GTfan is right. On first blush, the 2009 class for quarterbacks doesn’t look real stout at the moment. Tim Tebow and Sam Bradford (Oklahoma) could choose to come out, too. Or not.
By Paddy
April 30, 2008 5:53 PM | Link to this
To Elliot Garcia…You need a better grasp on how college athletics works. If you are just new to the game I can understand your comment. More time studing the game and its inter-workings will give you a better insight. Football is fun once you understand how it works.
By Voice of Reason
April 30, 2008 5:57 PM | Link to this
Chip —
I think cadman’s point is that the (UG)AJC provides commentary on Stafford and Moreno, but omits any mention of Tech players projected in any mock draft (class standing aside). Sorry, but sometimes folks have a hard time finding a place to make comments such as his since the (UG)AJC panders to the alumni and redneck fans of that bastian of mediocrity in Athens.
Have you ever noticed the dichotomy of the editorial pages and the sports pages of the AJC: the editorials largely cater to the non-southern, transplant, liberal, urban elite who live inside the perimeter. The sports posts cater to the redneck, uneducated (could probably throw UGA alums in the uneducated bucket), outside-the-perimeter folks, and the frat boy UGA clones, who largely vote conservative. Interesting balance of trying to sell papers/generate revenue while still paying homage to the liberal elite media establishment (read: NY Times et al) through the editorial pages.
Have you seen the comments Terence Moore gets to his blogs? Has Cynthia Tucker ever responded to such bigoted posts?
The liberal editorial page likes to say to the redneck southerners, “you’re not smart enough to know what’s best for you or what to think, let us tell you”. The sports page says, “hey, I mone giv y’all whachall wont… Jorja Futball newz”
By crazydawg
April 30, 2008 6:01 PM | Link to this
Also, if you people(idiot Gator fans) think Tebow is going to get drafted before Stafford is mind-boggling. NO ONE will change their system to fit Tebow’s style. He’ll get drafted high, I will admit that but he will be a bust in 3 years. Mark it down. You guys have heard of Alex Smith right. What’s he doing right now? Yeah he’s playing but he’s an absolute bust for the number one pick
By Lilburn Dawg
April 30, 2008 6:12 PM | Link to this
Moreno may leave early, but if so, I hope he forgoes his senior season only. He’s good enough to be in the NFL. From what I’ve learned, I don’t think the NFL scouts have been that impressed with Stafford’s abilities as a QB. Overall, he’s seen as an average SEC QB….nothing that great except a very strong arm, but not that accurate with it and no footwork. I don’t expect that he will be a very high draft pick after he leaves college.
By curious
April 30, 2008 6:17 PM | Link to this
chip, do you know the accuracy of last year’s draft predictions prior to the beginning of the college season?
By daledog
April 30, 2008 6:26 PM | Link to this
Tebow will be an NFL fullback for short yardage.
By Jim
April 30, 2008 6:33 PM | Link to this
Why don’t you stick to reporting sprots news rather than trying to make it! Did either Stafford or Moreno tell you they were thinking of leaving early? Until they do you have nothing but fodder that makes you look stupid. Leave them alone and let them play ball!!!
By FL DAWG
April 30, 2008 6:34 PM | Link to this
Unless Stafford leads the country in passing yds/game, yds/attempt/completion% and just about every other statistic he needs to stay. He has not been the greatest QB in the SEC, let alone in the country. He has all the tools and talent in the world, he just has not proved he knows how to use them consistently. I like his potential and hope he shows it this year. Moreno on the otherhand, with another solid year of 1200+ yds and he should go. If either of them get a deal like the OL to Miami, then they had better take it. I hope both have great seasons, win a NC and stay.
By boots
April 30, 2008 7:05 PM | Link to this
Dang, Moreno played one season. I think the guy is amazing, and I hope he lights up the SEC this year, but we should shelve this talk until next February. As for Stafford, he has a lot of potential and finally started living up to it the second half of last year, but he still has a way to go. Then again, if someone wants to pay them top 10 $, then good for them. We have talent up & down, and I want what is best for the kids and the program. My needs come third, but I still want the NC!!!
By for real?
April 30, 2008 7:59 PM | Link to this
Come on, both have a chance to play at the next level and probably moreno moreso than Stafford. Both will be back. I personally think Stafford is overrated though. His pass completion rating is similar to Reggie Ball!
By Chip Towers
April 30, 2008 8:17 PM | Link to this
Voice of Reason: I couldn’t disagree with you more on every single count… .
Jim: Not sure how you figure I’m trying to make the news rather than report. This is a blog where we discuss topics. Several national dot-coms placed Stafford and Moreno among the top 10 picks for next season’s NFL draft. I noted that the two players are still underclassmen and would have a decision to make if these predictions were correct. Pretty interesting subject I thought… .
crazydawg: Never say never when it comes to the draft. Tebow could well end up a higher draft pick and/or a better NFL quarterback than Stafford… .
curious: good question about the accuracy of predictions. I noticed that http://www.walterfootball.com lists all its mock draft from years past on its website. And I read somewhere earlier today that Kentucky’s Andre Woodson was projected to be this year’s No. 1 pick back in October. As it turned out he went in the sixth round to the Giants. But I’ll try to locate one or two significant ones and report back… .
By PoundDawg
April 30, 2008 8:21 PM | Link to this
I have no problem with the status quo of college football players utilizing colleges/scholarships to hone their skills in an attempt to bolster their ulterior motives. That being said, both Stafford and Moreno are far from being ready to go pro. It remains to be seen in the eyes of many of us if Stafford will ever be anything more than a “heralded high school recuit” and an average SEC quarterback. Time will tell. I agree with others regarding Moreno’s coming out and the life expectancy of an NFL running back. He will however, benefit greatly by waiting until after his junior year to declare. Bottom line…I just love the Dawgs and we’ll be fine with or without those guys.
By Gene
April 30, 2008 8:34 PM | Link to this
I really don’t see Knowshon coming out early. I think he’ll be gone after his Junior year (when Stafford leaves after his senior year).
By PoundDawg
April 30, 2008 8:41 PM | Link to this
I have no problem with the status quo of college football players utilizing colleges/scholarships to hone their skills in an attempt to bolster their ulterior motives. That being said, both Stafford and Moreno are far from being ready to go pro. It remains to be seen in the eyes of many of us if Stafford will ever be anything more than a “heralded high school recuit” and an average SEC quarterback. Time will tell. I agree with others regarding Moreno’s coming out and the life expectancy of an NFL running back. He will however, benefit greatly by waiting until after his junior year to declare. Bottom line…I just love the Dawgs and we’ll be fine with or without those guys.
By Festus
April 30, 2008 8:44 PM | Link to this
I thinks ole Staffard and Noshun needs to whup them thare game chikins first. Laist yers game wers embarrassin. Them thare doagies needs to whups Vandee too and git sum respecs. Maybee another remaitch with thait thare itty bitty staite skool in Waste Virginny will git um respecs so them boys can go high in the draift!
By shane#1
April 30, 2008 8:49 PM | Link to this
Chip, thanks for the topic, and You are right about the national pundits picking Stafford for # 1 qb. Stafford plays under center a lot and has a stromg arm, pro scouts like that. Personally I would not draft a qb, unless He is another Moreno{the other one},or Manning with a top ten pick. Most top ten qbs and rbs never live up to Their hype. I think Tebow needs work because UF always uses the shotgun formation. He may be okay as a drop back passer, but no one has seen it. The coachs at UGA planned to work with Stafford on His footwork and delivery and I understand that at the spring game both were much improved. War Eagle, Cuz likes to have fun on the blogs, as the best Tech qb of all time said, it ain’t nothin’ but a game, dog!
By Cuz
April 30, 2008 8:49 PM | Link to this
I think the last six, or was it seven games, proved that Stafford was better than an average SEC quarterback. I place him above average and I can’t wait for the 2008 to see where he compares with Tebow, John Parker, et al. I think he will be near the top. I guess I am channeling Buck Cochran.
Moreno is a great talent. If he gets over 2000 yards next year, in the words of Steve Miller, take the money and run. Get it run, awe at least I can laugh at my own jokes.
Wareagle, the BCS screwed Auburn’s perfect season and I have hated it ever since. Until we play each other, I am a fan of our Western cousins.
Chip, I understand the basis of the blog, I had fun with the who knows what aspect. Ignore the people who cannot understand the word conjecture. Tell the IS I said hello.
shane, we just aint drinking enough to understand the mensa candidates on this blog.
By Chris
April 30, 2008 9:01 PM | Link to this
Dawg fans only wish Tebow would go early. As for me, I wouldn’t be shocked if he skipped the NFL altogether and became a missionary. Not likely, but certainly not impossible.
Regarding Stafford and Moreno, I think Stafford is a lock for the draft barring a losing season. As for Moreno, I’d put him at 60% leaving early. If he ends up being a Heisman finalist, then he’s gone.
Oh, and congrats on recruiting Aaron Murray. If I had to choose between a team with 3 5-star QBs on its roster and a team with only one QB who’s likely to go pro next spring, then I’d pick the latter. Guess it’s payback for stealing Omar Hunter from under your nose.
By Tommy Bow Wow den
April 30, 2008 9:33 PM | Link to this
Stafford will need to put up some eye poping stats to prove his mettle. Last year he did improve some (key word….some). Cullen Harper is a QB that should go very high in the draft after this season at Clemson. His stats are very impressive. Moreno’s overexuberance is gonna be his water loo, for teams will be see that big red target on him which may result in him being injured. Goooooo Tigers!! ROAR!!!
By RxDawg
April 30, 2008 9:33 PM | Link to this
Moreno should go if he is without a doubt a 1st round pick….and I don’t see why he wouldn’t be. Stafford…eh. If he has a team wanting him then sure, why not. Usually QB’s do better with more expierience but hey, it’s not like they dont get expierience in NFL camp either. Part of me would actually smile if he did go though, and thats because part of me would really like to see Joe Cox have a shot at the team for his senior year. I’ve always liked that kid and think he can be something special in his own right. I doubt Stafford will leave early, but if he does I think we’ll be allright.
By War Eagle
April 30, 2008 9:48 PM | Link to this
Stafford, NO , Moreno No, Tebow, No, Moreno after Jr year, injuries will bug him, Stafford will stay for better position, Tebow, never leave Florida until sheepskin day.I think Moreno has to have more “proven time”.for a high draft selection.. Carnell Williams stayed four years, he was #5 selection(MILLIONS), his JR season, near Late Second pick., Moreno should pay attention, abundance of RB in NFL.
By PoundDawg
April 30, 2008 9:51 PM | Link to this
RxDawg…Spot on. Joe Cox is so very talented. Smart, quick, knowledgeable and Accurate. We may very well get to see him yet.
By DOUG
April 30, 2008 9:51 PM | Link to this
Of course they are leaving. Moreno for sure.To risky to stay. Moreno will get hurt this year. Watch and see. He is an injury waiting to happen. He should leave early. Stafford will go to thanks to the aid of play action in 08. He needs another year in 09 but he will go.
By Brent
April 30, 2008 9:56 PM | Link to this
Hey Atl Gator,We are gonna beat you Jort-wearing Camaro driving IDIOTS this year too. Take it to the bank
By Atlanta Gator
April 30, 2008 10:26 PM | Link to this
Who is this “ATL Gator” character? And does he know anything about common law trademark infringement?
By War Eagle
April 30, 2008 10:36 PM | Link to this
I know you dawgs get tired of my Auburn this and Auburn that, but read this carefully..Auburn has had MORE HIGH draft selection since 2004, than UGA and most SEC schools. The reason is STAY FULL FOUR YEARS OF ELIGIBILITY,. CTT has done an very good job in the direction and advise for several #1 -# 3 draft selections. I think CMR has provided the same, but should really look at Stafford and Moreno and urge them to stay for awhile…In 2005, draft, four Auburn players received over 100 million dollars in annual salary and signing bonus from NFL draft, they all opt to stay in school until their senior year. Stafford-Campbell,QB Brown-Caddy- Moreno,RB, Carlos Rogers(CB ) was the 4th #1 pick.All great players
By D'Marcus Jefferson, Kappa Alpha Pledge/UGA--Aryan Nation fraternity
April 30, 2008 10:44 PM | Link to this
Don’t be so friggin stupid DAWG nation….Oh the flip side, I wonder if either are saying, it would be so fitting to stay at UGA for another year and try to be repeat National Champions. If I was either of these studs, I’d stay and risk injury to try to be repeat National Champions!
I’m a Vols fan, but UGA will be National Champs this year. They’ll beat the Cocks (reminds me of the SNL skit—“Schwetty Balls”..Molly Shannon says, “your balls are glistening…Baldwin says, “that’s because I put extra oil on each of my balls”), they’ll beat LSU, BAMA, and Auburn.
These guys don’t need or want the millions that guys like the Falcons new QB or Kevin Smith of the Lions will be making. If they do, they don’t mind waiting another year for the multi millions. Not a big deal for either of them.
By dawgtired
April 30, 2008 10:50 PM | Link to this
Stafford should go. Look at his stats, especially turnovers and Richt said he is the best. David Greene and Shockley won SEC titles. What has Stafford done?
I want Moreno back, but you have to understand the money involved by going pro.
By DWG
April 30, 2008 10:52 PM | Link to this
Okay Chip. I usually like your blog topics but this one stinks. Now we have polls on the front page of the sports section asking who’s going pro in 09’. Not one freakin game played, 4 months from the first kick and the AJC is writing about our top players possibly bolting for the draft. For the record, the media causes the hysteria, not the other way around. This is a perfect example for all you gator, tiger, etc. fans that want to say UGA fans are rabid and irrational. The AJC started this. Not UGA fans.
By P Dawg
April 30, 2008 11:01 PM | Link to this
Tommy Bow Wow den, who gives a s#$% about clemson. You didn’t have much “roar” the last few times you played UGA, did you? Get on a clemson blog to talk your greenville stupidity!
By Dawglover
April 30, 2008 11:13 PM | Link to this
Chip, Why are you trying to stir up CRAP before the season even starts? I know it makes you feel like a real journalist when you have all of these responses to this bolg; but in my opinion, this is bad journalism. How about reporting on something that’s already happened, like the committments that the Dogs have already secured or how many recruits have qualified or even what has been happening during the off season work-outs. Give the speculation a rest chipper!
By P Dawg
April 30, 2008 11:20 PM | Link to this
Stafford will play all 4 and KM will leave after his junior year. That is what my magical crystal ball says. Kneel to my power bitc#e$! Go ahead and accept the fact that I can tell that some nights that the writers of these articles have REAL news and some nights they don’t. Nice try though. We are a starved bunch, aren’t we? Especially the non-DAWG fans that still blog here because they don’t have a home to blog on. Pathetic situation for you LOSERS! Keep blogging you’re pathetic crap so we’ll continue to see how envious you all are of the mighty UGA Bulldogs! PLEASE! SAY SOMETHING! And please say why you get on this blog instead of your own.(does anyone else have one?)
By War Eagle
April 30, 2008 11:25 PM | Link to this
Keeping those high draft selections at home for awhile helps W-L RECORD. There has been FOUR undefeated teams since 1986 in the SEC: Alabama 1992, AUBURN 1993, Tennessee 1998, AUBURN 2004.If draft picks left early Auburn would not have the most undefeated teams in the SEC during this period…
By D-Man
April 30, 2008 11:30 PM | Link to this
RIVALS.COM HAS STAFFORD GOING #1 IN NEXT YEAR’S DRAFT…
By Prince von Ahole
April 30, 2008 11:32 PM | Link to this
After they finish 7-4, Stafford goes to Talledega and does keg stands while moreno goes clubbin’
By Tommy Bow Wow den
April 30, 2008 11:38 PM | Link to this
P Dawg….. seems like frustration sits in when the truth is pointed out to ya. Stafford has only shown, to this point, that he is an average to slightly above average QB. BTW Clemson would welcome the chance to play Uga yearly. Go ahead and brag about the mini series here and there games while the Tigers were down. If the two teams played every year just like the 1980s, the series would be closer Punk Dawg!
By WirelessBuzz
April 30, 2008 11:48 PM | Link to this
I have not seen anything from Stafford to justify the hype he has gotten. He is maybe an above average QB, but aside from the frothing of the ATlanta media, he is not all that. Let him leave, but I don’t ever see him as a major NFL QB. Moreno, however, and as bad as I hate to admit it, is the real deal. I hope he goes pro! However, I have my doubts, not because of his skills, but because of his size. The NFL loves to look at physical measurables. I think this will turn some teams off. That being said, I do think he will have an NFL career. I just hope he tones down the dancing before he leaves.
By Joe Mac
May 1, 2008 12:16 AM | Link to this
GEORGIA 2008 = AUBURN 2003
By Greek Dawg
May 1, 2008 1:27 AM | Link to this
I think Matt Stafford enjoys being in college and will do what he says: play four years. Moreno has a sense of his place in UGA history. He’ll be back too. The ESPN Gator Network would love to esee them both leave, but they will both be there in Jax kicking the Gator’s butts for the fourth straight year.
By comment
May 1, 2008 1:28 AM | Link to this
Sorry I got on late if its already been mentioned, but can the AJC please refrain from having a BEE floating around every time I sign on to the UGA page.
He’s probably selling 4 season tickets, a parking pass, 4 sodas and pizza slices for $159. Just get it off the UGA page. We don’t care about Tech season packages in ‘08 since we play in Athens!
GO DAWGS!!!
By Dawgs Fan in Iraq
May 1, 2008 3:37 AM | Link to this
I hate to see it happen, but I wouldn’t blame them if they have the years everyone thinks they are going to have. That being said if they do anything less than expected, they should stay
By P Dawg
May 1, 2008 6:33 AM | Link to this
UGA’s all time record against the kittens in clempson is 41-17-4! The last two weren’t even games. It was rediculous. Keep getting on UGA’s blogs and talking trash though. Shows us how pathtic you are! Hope to see your kitties on our schedule again REAL soon!
IF MS and KM leave early we’ll be fine. Pay attention to recruiting and our depth chart! Things are gonna be fine in Athens for a LONG time!!! GO DAWGS!!!
By SickAndTired
May 1, 2008 6:43 AM | Link to this
Boy is this gonna be an implosion. Let me review: The Dawg Nation is absolutely certain for the 29th straight year that this is the year “we take it all.” Why you ask? Because we had the best team in America LAST year. A team that got beat by a 6 win South Carolina and absolutely blown out by Tennessee. A team that should have lost to Georgia Tech late in the season during this National Championship run they made. Now this coming out early thing. I’ll give Moreno this, he’s the real deal, the best player, not just running back at Georgia since H. Walker. Now this Stafford stuff has reached the outer limits of being ridiculous. What has the done? His numbers pale in comparison not only to his peers in the SEC but the previous two SEC Champion QB’S at his own school. Mel Kiper has laid a big one on this kid. Number one pick? Stafford is a Ryan Leaf waiting to be birthed by the NFL gurus. Too short, no mechanics, a gun for an arm and no aim. That does not translate well into the NFL. But hey, I’m no Mel Kiper and Mel thought Ryan Leaf should have been picked before Peyton Manning. This is gonna be fun watching this fall. Literally and figurativly. Go Get EM Dawgs. Heck, if they don’t win it all, we’ll be hearing Fire Mark Richt. Such a wonderful, realistic fan base.
By Dawg4Life
May 1, 2008 6:57 AM | Link to this
I think that the season is definitely going to play a hand in this. The Dawgs have the year everyone is projecting them to have, then I can see Stafford and possibly Moreno leaving. If you are guaranteed a top five selection, then you go. I mean, look what happened to Leinhart. Buddy lost out on like $20 million by staying for his senior year. I think that Stafford projects better into the NFL than Tebow. Spread offense QB’s never amount to anything in the NFL. Take note of Meyer’s last 2, Alex Smith and Chris Leak (granted Chris Leak didn’t really run the spread offense to it’s full capacity). I hope to see them stay, but will understand completely if they go.
By Tiger Dan
May 1, 2008 7:19 AM | Link to this
@SickAndTired
I co-sign your statements. I can not wait for Oct. 25th when the “pups” come to Baton Rouge. LSU will see to end all that NC talk coming from the Dawg Nation, properly!!! What makes it even worst…the following week, an upset and waiting Gator team is waiting their turn for a piece of the Dawgs…Good luck! Stafford isn’t the best QB in the SEC let alone the country. RP#11 baby!
By DNICE
May 1, 2008 7:36 AM | Link to this
ATl Gator you are right on pint about Stafford. I know it pains me to tell people but look at the stats cause they dont lie about Stafford. Great arm does not mean great player. Learn some fundamentals and stop throwing picks and the ball late. On the stupid racist comments about money maybe all these idiots should go to a chapel an pray since they are on the wrong tangent. Nothing against single parents but Moreno does not come from a single parent home and his parents live comfortably just like Stafford. Bring the comments my way if you may. I am an Officer in our great military and if I somehow misspelled words on here guess what, I dont care. Spell check is used for formal conversations and blogging is certainly not that. Out
By Dawg Lover
May 1, 2008 7:41 AM | Link to this
They BOTH need to finish their degrees and win some SEC titles for Georgia. These boys need to have college completed before joining the NFL. Finish EVERYTHING you came for is my motto!
By Petey
May 1, 2008 7:43 AM | Link to this
Chip, I don’t think there is any doubt that if they both project in the Top 15 of the draft and they don’t go - they are insane.
It’s usually “rah rah rah, i love my school, I plan to be here forever…” That changes once they get the first call from an agent talking signing bonus.
Another angle to think about, these guys are from Texas and NJ. Not exactly home grown boys who ever bled red and black before they got here. I think that might make a difference.
Also - I’ve never seen a quarterback who has done so little statistically or consistently get so much hype in terms of the draft. He still has terrible footwork which leads to overthrows and bad decisions. Unless that drastically changes I don’t see any way he is projected in the Top 20 picks come next spring.
I also don’t think you are going to see scouts lined up for a slower, light RB(with amazing quickness, granted). Moreno can be a productive player in the league, but he could never be an every down back at that weight (see Cadillac Williams, who is actually bigger and faster) and I don’t see anyone using a Top 10 pick on a change of pace runner.
By Jon
May 1, 2008 7:57 AM | Link to this
Two Georgia Tech players were also projected in that draft, including Michael Johnson at No. 2 overall. Not a Tech homer, but let’s keep the reporting balanced.
By Thomaston Dawg
May 1, 2008 8:07 AM | Link to this
A Florida fan is going to say something about UGA QB’s in the NFL? What a joke. How did that Danny Waffle thing go with the Saints? Or Rex Gross-man with the Bears? Or Doug (little) Johnson and Jesse Palmher?
At least UGA does have Tarkenton from way back.
By Workinlkeadawg
May 1, 2008 8:08 AM | Link to this
Stafford whould have to have a great yr. in ‘08. Quite frankly He needs 2 more solid yrs. at UGA. Don’t you think Moreno needs one more season?.But like you say money talks..
By Go Hawks
May 1, 2008 8:15 AM | Link to this
Ask Brian Brohm if historically QB’s benefit from staying all 4 years…
By NCdawg
May 1, 2008 8:23 AM | Link to this
I would love to see them stay and, if all goes as some predict, play for back to back Nat’l Championships. However, that’s a huge carrot to dangle in front of a hungry horse. Who could blame them if they laeve early, college football is the AAA league of the NFL.
By Danny
May 1, 2008 8:34 AM | Link to this
That is why I wanted the Falcons to pick Dorsey this year one of the best defensive tackles to come along in years….Logically with the lack of talent the Falcons have they will finish at the top of the draft next year and also the year after where they could have gotten next John Elway in Stafford
By NCdawg
May 1, 2008 8:35 AM | Link to this
Go Hawks, You could ask Peyton Manning the same question.
By DawgDominance
May 1, 2008 8:48 AM | Link to this
I don’t see the dawgs losing to the Gators for the next 20 years. We’re about to make the same run that Florida made in the 90s.
By Nate
May 1, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this
I personally don’t think either will leave until after 2009. However, I think it says a lot about what Coach Richt has done the last couple of years in recruiting, that I won’t be that worried if they do leave.
I mean, I love Stafford and Moreno, but there is a wealth of talent behind them now.
Stafford will have Joe Cox, Logan Gray, Zach Metten-whatever, and Aaron Murray. Those four guys can be starters just about anywhere in the country…and they’re our backups.
Also, at running back we have Richard Samuel, Caleb King, Dontavius Jackson, Carlton Thomas, Xavier Avery, and my personal favorite…Washaun Ealey. Once again, a wealth of backups for us who could be starting at most schools. In fact, everyone but Avery and Thomas could start at any big school. Awesome! I love these dawgs! If 2008 falls short, 2009 could be even more promising.
By connorsgp
May 1, 2008 9:16 AM | Link to this
November 1, 2008……GATORS 48 puppies 17…….same run that the Gators, after last years hiccup, will resume this year, ladies take that to the bank
By pvb
May 1, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this
coonorsgp,
Put down the crack pipe! No way UF scores that many points on ANY SEC team in 2008, especially UGA. Also, UF’s defense will not be any better than last year. UGA will be able to beat UF without throwing a pass.
By PAPA 10
May 1, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this
u dawgs need 2 put up or shut up win a few games and u think u r champs Go Gators
By Gen Neyland
May 1, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this
The list of RB’s that opted out after a sophmore year that are now bagging groceries may be on the rise if Moreno drives off after 2008. Stafford, slightly different story. I say if they have their degree after year 3, e.g. Mayo, go on and good luck…Let us look at one Peyton Manning. Graduated after his 3rd year of college eligibility, came back for his 4th to hone his talents for the next level. The results helped earn him a Super Bowl ring. Now let us look at one Chuck Webb, RB from UT back in the 80’s…Who, you say..? Another bundle of talent that took a shot at the Big Show early….My advice to Moreno, stick around for your 3rd year of play time eligibility. Get a million dollar insurance policy, graduate and play your way into the NFL…’Course as an enemy blogger, I should say ,”Go. Prosper. Seek the fortunes of wealth, gold and tatoos ye of skill and youth.” Amen
By birdman
May 1, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this
if stafford stays for his senior season, i think he’ll be more than ready to be a first round pick. moreno should stay until his junior season.
oh yeah… georgia 31, florida 24
By AltamahaDawg
May 1, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this
Go Hawk, you are speculating. Historically players make more money and have more success by playing college ball as long as possible. Every example of who made a mistake that I have read in here is based off of assumptions, and even if so, would be the exceptions. Brohm’s decision was to come back to a team in Lousville, Ky. that was in coching transition. Not sure that is going to be much of a pattern for SEC guys. Ultimately the guys are evaluated on talent and I dont think many NFL scouts change thier minds or get fooled by anyone coming out early before thier stock plummets. Success works out the money in the big picture. Name a pro style QB who DID declare early and it DID pay off. There are a dozen more that didnt. And all the NFL QBs listened to the advice and stayed. Top one or two pick going to Dallas would be another story, but I don’t really believe thats going to be the case.
By SneakyDawg
May 1, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this
Stafford will stay, but he will have a great year. I am not sure some UGA fans really get how good he is , what he is asked to do and what he means to this team. Moreno was spectacular last year, sure, but Staff makes it go. Moreno likely goes barring injury, Staff chooses to play four in Athens.
By gdawg76
May 1, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this
this schedule is rough. if the dawgs win out i think moreno goes for sure. but unless stafford wins the heisman i think he will stay. this team is young and very talented and if they can win it all this year and keep a core of players we could be looking at a repeat and the end of urban meyer at florida!
By ttown one
May 1, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this
What has Richt or Bobo done with QBs? Please someone please name the last Richt or Bobo coached QB that materialized to ANYTHING in the NFL.
To sum up all the UGA responses: UGA is the best team ever. UGA will win the national title every year. Anyone who thinks UGA is not the best is wrong. UGA, woof, woof, woof.
By Jarvis
May 1, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this
Wouldn’t this all depend on how they do this year?
By RealWarEagle
May 1, 2008 10:59 AM | Link to this
The best UGA player in the NFL is Hines Ward. Great player! UGA doesn’t have a good history of athletes becoming great in professional sports. The great Herschel Walker didn’t do a whole lot in the NFL. Other than him I can’t think of anyone else.
By P Dawg
May 1, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this
ttown one, all they did was coach the winningest QB in NCAA history. That’s right, ALL TIME WINNINGEST QB IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL HISTORY. It doesn’t always work out in the pros but they sure do know how to coach em’ and win ball games.
By Tommy Bow Wow den
May 1, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this
Punk Dawg……. yes the 30 - 0 wasn’t close in the valley, but you forget the squeaker in Athens the year before on our missed field goal. A 3 point win for your mutts. Hardly ridiculous in your delusional brain!
By crs
May 1, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this
I think UGA is planning on losing them both. We really shored up running back this past recruiting period and we look to have shored up quarterback in the 09 class. Running back is an incredibly short shelf life so if KM plays wells I do expect him to leave. Stafford is a little tougher of a call as I do think they benefit from a full term and Richt is a great teacher as is Bobo. Selfishly of course I hope everyone comes back for 09 as I think we would have a much better shot at the SEC and national titles. Time will tell and I will enjoy watching the both of them as long as they are at UGA.
By murdock5151
May 1, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this
sickandtired, do some research before you post. Stafford is 6’3” 237. That is too short for the NFL? Maybe you meant the NBA, sorry if i am mistaken on that one. Apparantly you have not seen any of his highlights from the spring game. Last year was his first season as a starter and the last seven games of the year maybe you didn’t notice but he took uga on a seven game winning streak culminating in the absolute destruction of an undefeated hawaii team in the sugar bowl. Though they were overmatched, noone seemed to think that going into the game. Maybe it’s posible that uga is just that good. or maybe you right, maybe stafford is overrated
By dawgcrap
May 1, 2008 11:49 AM | Link to this
For all of the kisses being thrown at Satfford, what has HE really done? I know UGA has won a lot of games, but let’s face it the dawgs are loaded. When he leads the team in the 4th qtr to come from behind and win a meaningfull game then maybe he’s ready. Until then he’s just an under achiever with a lot of “potential”.
By dawgcrap
May 1, 2008 11:50 AM | Link to this
For all of the kisses being thrown at Satfford, what has HE really done? I know UGA has won a lot of games, but let’s face it the dawgs are loaded. When he leads the team in the 4th qtr to come from behind and win a meaningfull game then maybe he’s ready. Until then he’s just an under achiever with a lot of “potential”.
By murdock5151
May 1, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this
General neyland, though you usually offer insightful posts i have to challenge you on you last one. Rb’s can not opt out after their sophmore year. You must be out of high school for three years and moreno was redshirted as a sophmore so he is not a regular sophmore. He is also not a regular rb. he is a talent that has not come around in a long time in ncaa football. Strong, shifty, fast, finishes his runs strong and his legs don’t stop churning. Defensive coordinators are having to adjust their entire defensive gameplan to prepare for him. That is why stafford will have a breakout year. Load 8 in the box to try to stop moreno and stafford is going to pick the coverage apart
By murdock5151
May 1, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this
dawgcrap, are you talking about a game like when stafford drove the bulldogs down the field after vandy fumbled in the fourth qtr and led the bulldogs to victory? I’m sure you will say well that was against vandy but what is more meaningful than an sec east division game that keeps the winning streak alive and puts your team in the sugar bowl?
By Tommy Bow Wow den
May 1, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this
Right now Stafford is a good college QB and that’s it in a nut shell. He would have to have a break out year along with a championship of sorts to go high in the draft. Stafford will finish his career at uga and then go quietly. Moreno will have to prove he can now carry the full load without the Thomas Brown kid. The injury bug will have to elude Moreno because he will now have the bulls eye on him. If Ugas receiving corps can make plays consistently instead relying on the running game then Moreno should do well.
By overrated
May 1, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this
so stafford can only be an effective passer if Ds are loading the box to stop Moreno? sounds like a real talent. having an equal # of TDs and picks over 2 seasons doesnt sound that impressive to me either.
By murdock5151
May 1, 2008 12:48 PM | Link to this
I didn’t say he could only pick them apart if they loaded the box i said he will pick them apart. Way to pick one part of my argument and spin it though. Like i said his freshman year he wasn’t even the starter until the end of the year when he beat 5 ranked teams. Not sure on the exact stat but i beleive as a starter he is 16-3. You’re right that’s not impressive. He picks d’s apart without the running game, with it, his talents will be even more evident. i am sickand tired of your tired negative attitude. Morom
By ATL GATOR
May 1, 2008 12:54 PM | Link to this
3-18 Nuff said. UGA wins one year when Tebow is hurt and they now think they are better. Tebow will be healthy this year so don’t count on winning. 3-19 after this year.
By Tiger Dan
May 1, 2008 1:01 PM | Link to this
@ P Dawg
How many National Championship games, did this NCAA all-time winner, win??? How many times did he beat FLA? {waiting} ………… ………………… Exactly!!!
By overrated
May 1, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this
and i am sick and tired of hearing about how matt stafford is the second coming of christ in quarterback form when, by QB stats, he is soundly mediocre in his division, conference, and the NCAA as a whole. His passer rating ranked him at 56 out of 119 D1 QBs last year. He was only the 4th best QB , by stats, in the SEC east last year (beaten by Tebow, Ainge, and Woodson). There were 5 ACC QBs that ranked higher than him. You people are delusional and need to get over the ‘stafford for heisman’ talk. Hes got about 50 other QBs he needs to beat in the stats to even be in the discussion, and a 55% completion percentage and a 2:1 TD to INT ratio isnt impressing anyone outside the state of GA.
By Gen Neyland
May 1, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this
murdock5151
Chuck Webb, the Tennessee tailback who missed 11 games this past season with a knee injury, is giving up his last two seasons of eligibility to try for a shot at the N.F.L. Webb gained 1,236 yards in 1989 despite starting only half the season. He added 250 yards in the 1990 Cotton Bowl. (AP)… excerpt from NYT’s, 23JAN1991
By reading the above excerpt, one may conclude that giving up 2 seasons of eligibility may include a junior and senior season, or a 5th year of eligibility. One may not. The point murdock1515, is suiting up for two seasons on college gamedays ready’s not one for the Big Show, IMO…I believe in at least 3 years playing the minor league circut called the NCAA…and not including a redshirt for a season, unless medical. Then all bets are off regarding playing in the next level. It’s like a bellybutton. It’s an opinion and everybody has one…
By Hey ATL Gator
May 1, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this
Until we play this year, 42-30 is all that matters. We stomped all over you and your sorry a* gators so deal with it.
PS, history started well before 21 years ago so lets stop being selective about which part of the series record we count.
By Tommy Bow Wow den
May 1, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this
Oh BTW….. If a frog had wings…. Well. you should get the picture! Maybe Moreno will do well.
By War Eagle
May 1, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this
Nice post Gen Neyland, player are always just ONE play from career injuries. I have seen it happen several times. When you dealing with a 19-21 year old kid and a heavy wallet agent it could be a nightmare to a Stafford, Moreno, Marks or Tebow.. Look for Ole Miss to improve this year, their former HC could not coach, but one solid recruiter.UGA,,Auburn,LSU have put numbers in the NFL, but not like Tenn, #1 SEC, third nationally.
By SickAndTired
May 1, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this
Overrated I agree with everything you said. The Georgia fans already say that Stafford is better than David Greene was or ever could be. David Greene was thrown under the bus by Mark Richt for four years with his little pet DJ Shockley taking away playing time from him and he still wound up the leader in passing yards and completions in SEC History. I’m no Georgia fan but give me a break with the Stafford for the #1 pick crap. Being rational has never been the strong suit of the Dawg Nation and this stuff is clearly delusional at best.
By sobedawg
May 1, 2008 2:11 PM | Link to this
Matt Ryan didn’t WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS at BC and still went pretty high in the draft. Also, Peyton Manning benefited from an extra year…Dr.SobeDawg
By AltamahaDawg
May 1, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this
Haters guilt of the very things they make accusations of….you think they would see that. Too busy blattering some lame insults towards anyone with a different color shirt I guess.
By DC Dawg
May 1, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this
Stafford is good and he has the stats (size, arm strength) but he still has a LONG way to go. He is just now getting comfortable in the UGA offense, which has always been built around a running attack (except in the Zeier years, which, incidentally was why the Dawgs were only mediocre with him at the helm). If he’s just now grasping a fairly straightforward offense, there’s no way he’ll be ready to go pro after this year. Coach Richt and Bobo need to slowly add complexity so Stafford can prove he’s cerebral enough to make it in the pros. He got by on sheer athletic ability last year…he still forced the ball to un-open receivers and was over confident in his arm strength. He needs another two years to mature. When I see him read coverages better, drop it short to his 3d or 4th receiver because its safer, and scramble out of bounds instead of trying to throw across his body, he’ll be ready to go pro.
By Hamad Meander
May 1, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this
Here’s what will happen. UGA wins the National Championship this year. Stafford has a monster season with his new receivers. He is the best QB in the draft and who has the first pick? The Atlanta Falcons.
They are kicking themselves in the butt because they could have had a QB need next year if they had concentrated on what they said they were going to work on - the offensive and defensive lines.
Fact of the matter is that Stafford throws a better ball than half the QBs in the NFL and will be successful in the NFL if playing behind a good line.
Also, how many UGA fans would buy Falcons season tickets if he were their QB? How many UT fans bought Colts season tickets to go watch Peyton Manning even though Peyton didn’t win a National Championship.
Mark my words: M. Stafford will be a better NFL QB than T. Tebow.
Disclaimer: I am not a UGA Alum or fan.
By Whitegoat
May 1, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this
stafford cerebral? Man, please. Enough already. All you what ifers mark it down. You lose in Columbia. Fear the Gamecock Crow. The OBC is looming in your little heads again. Amen SickAndTired. Bleat me.
By birdman
May 1, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this
how many winning seasons have the gamecocks had since 1988? 5. i don’t know how SC can still brag about that one win over GA. they don’t have any good QBs. the defense was worst in the East. vandy will have a better season than them.
mark it down.
By Cuz
May 1, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this
Florida wins one year when Shockley is hurt, so what’s your point? Injuries happen. Tebow had an injury to his non-throwing arm and to his credit, sucked it up and played. DJ had an ankle injury, was not allowed to play and we lost. I don’t whine over that. Quit whining over Tebow being injured lost the game. He looked pretty good playing to me. I could not tell he was injured and if he was hurt that bad, why did Meyer let him play at all?
By Cuz
May 1, 2008 3:36 PM | Link to this
I fully expect USC east to throw a heck of a party in Columbia at the fairgrounds. I just think the Dawgs win, probably be close as always with all the Georgia home grown players on the Carolina team.
By College Fan
May 1, 2008 5:41 PM | Link to this
Chip, slow day at the old AJC? Need to stir the pot a little to get the readership up? How about an article on WILL ATLANTA EVER GET A DECENT MAJOR NEWSPAPER? Many Atlantans have been speculating on that for years. There should be a lot of interest.
By Tommy Bow Wow den
May 1, 2008 7:00 PM | Link to this
Maybe my boys can show the puppies how the Tigers do chikin right.I have a sneaky feelin that the ole ball coach will put that ole sick feelin in Dawg Nations gut. Kinda scary isn’t it? I know Cullen Harper, Cullen Harper is my QB and Matthew Stafford ain’t no Cullen Harper. So you guys need not worry about the NFL Draft.
By Ed
May 1, 2008 7:00 PM | Link to this
I’d love to see Moreno in a Georgia uniform for 2-3 more years, but if you are a running back and have a chance to make millions now, you would be crazy to pass the opportunity up. The chance of blowing out a knee is too high at that position.
So, we would replace Stafford and Moreno with Gray or Murray and Caleb King and Richard Samuel? I doubt it would be much of a drop off. Richt has the Dawgs in re-load mode.
By Gman
May 1, 2008 7:32 PM | Link to this
I have to say, speaking from my heart, I hope Stafford and Moreno exhaust their elbibility. I heard rumors that Moreno could leave after his sophomore season, but I had always thought Staff would stay his four years. If Staff stays his four years at UGA, I don’t think there would be any question he would be one if not the greatest QBS in UGA history. If Stafford and Moreno brought a national championship to Georgia, I could see them entering the draft. I think Moreno would be the most likely to enter first before Stafford would. It really all depends on what they do on the field this year. If they live up to the hype everyone is giving them, then there is a good chance they might go. Lets just hope that they both stay their four years at UGA, man think of what Georgia could be if they did! Go Dawgs!!
By Eddis Stevenson III
May 1, 2008 8:01 PM | Link to this
All of this is just pure conjecture and speculation. Both Stafford and Moreno have a long road to really prove themselves. Firstly, the team needs to gain more respect from the college football world. In doing so, by having convincing wins over the likes of SC and Vandy. My beloved Vols have just destroyed the bulldogs for 2 years in a row and I expect more of the same. …. Eddis Stevenson III. Good Ole Rocky Top
By JessiB
May 1, 2008 8:03 PM | Link to this
Not that I have anything against a Dawg leaving early for the NFL, but in my opinion, it’s just not a good idea. Just look at David Pollack…a fantastic college player who decided to stay for all four years at Georgia before being a first round draft pick for the Bengals. After just one season, he broke his neck and now will never play football again. Thank God he stayed until he got his degree so that he has something to fall back on. The NFL is a great opportunity for both Stafford and Moreno, but they should get their degrees first. Pro-ball can wreck your body and make you a has-been but nobody can take away a college degree from you.
Okay, okay…and I’m also a little selfish because I want them both to stay for as long as possible. Go Dawgs!
By War Eagle
May 1, 2008 8:22 PM | Link to this
Hermad,Stafford is not that good or efficient today. David Greene played a different game than today..SEC stronger, schedule and system…The offensive scheme CMR ran with David is different because of personnel.THOUGHT OF THE DAY…C. King draft status next year faster than Moreno??
By bubba
May 1, 2008 8:29 PM | Link to this
degree is in what???
if smart, both will leave….King too.
By yellowblood
May 1, 2008 9:47 PM | Link to this
Both will be back. They enjoy coming to Tech for Tickle Piles to much. Saw them both last weekend. Stafford especially loves spooning his Tech brethren.
By Zeb McKluskey
May 1, 2008 10:34 PM | Link to this
Yellowblood, dude, you’re funny. I really like the tickle-pile posts, but are you really a tech fan? Come on, inquiring minds want to know.
Shane, what’s up bro? I’ve been kinda busy lately. Both my 7-month old Ridgebacks got Parvo and I almost lost one. Sorry guys, this is just for south ga people. But, for you dog lovers, all is well. They’re doing great. Ok, enough of that sh!t.
Matt and Knowshon are kinda in a tough place. Neither has had the time to REALLY show what they CAN, or CANNOT do. A lot of guys have screwed up they’re senior years with either a bad season, bad showing, or they got hurt. I’m indifferent to what they should do. I think it’s got to up to them and their family. We love them both, and wish them the best in life, so who are we to decide what’s best for their individual situations. Listen to this, and understand this. Shane and I are both from south ga. Thomas Davis went to my very small high school. He went to the NFL after his junior year. I know families like his. They’ve had very little they’re entire lives. Here comes they’re son with a chance to do great things. What would you guys do???? Guys, please keep things in perspective. I’m not saying that someone should do something just for money, but we’re not in their shoes. Just relax and let life fall where it’s going to fall anyway.
Enjoy college football and your respective teams. Come on these blogs and raise as much hell as you want. That’s what makes life great. Say what you want and do what you want, but remember, it all comes back around. GO DAWGS!!!!!
By Nikki
May 2, 2008 7:12 AM | Link to this
It would be great if both Moreno and Stafford stayed all 4 years. Still, the reality is they need to optimize their position in the draft. Brian Brohm is a perfect example. Last year the guy was projected to be the top QB in the draft. This year, he was barely a day 1 pick. He also has developed a rep of being a bad teammate in the locker room.
By AltamahaDawg
May 2, 2008 8:15 AM | Link to this
Brohm was projected anywhere from #1 to the possible third QB behind J.Russell and B.Quinn in 07. Even this draft some folks had him projected as high as the second QB, so projections are just that. I’m not sure where he actually ended up, but I’d be willing to bet it was based on NFL scout evaluation, and not some punitive actions for him going to college one more year, or anyone being fooled by the fact that Louisville had a poor defence last year. The NFL knows what its doing. He will made what he deserves over time.
By CapeCodDawg
May 2, 2008 8:18 AM | Link to this
Nikki. Wouldn’t you agree that the Brohm situation is foolish?. How could a guy be a solid 1st round pick, have one bad season and now he’s trash. The same with a guy who happens to run really fast,their value shoots up. I think it makes the scouts look bad and it’s more about hyp then about talent. If Brohm had 2 great seasons in Louisville then has one bad one it shouldn’t make a big difference especially in his case…but it did
By P Dawg
May 2, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this
Tommy Bow Wow den, quick question. Who has spanked your a*******es with an all time record of 41-17-4? The answer, of course, is UGA! STFUB!
By shane #1
May 2, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this
Alt, so the NFL knows what it is doing? Then explain the Falcon’s draft choices over the past forty years! Yeah yeah, I know, you were talking about professional football, not the Falcons. They play on Sunday anyway. Let’s see, Tommy Nobis, Claude Humphery, Steve Bartowski, Mike Kenn, I’m thinking…….that’s all the first rounders that brought full value that I can think of. I don’t remember if Kearney was a first round pick or not. Anyway, He overachieved{too small}, and is no longer a Falcon.
By Noodle_Arm_Stafford
May 2, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this
The same dumb UGay fans are the same one’s that said Greene, Shockly, Zeier would be a starter in the NFL. BENCHWARMERS/JUICE BOX BOYS!
By chemdawg
May 3, 2008 1:45 AM | Link to this
The fact that Greene and other UGA quarterbacks aren’t starters simply means they were well coached in a good program. I don’t mind admitting that Greene didn’t have the strongest arm or the fastest feet. People weren’t singing his praises out of high school either. Stafford on the other hand has scouts drooling not only by his success on the field but also his arm strength and size.
By chase
May 3, 2008 1:15 PM | Link to this
This all depends on how the season plays out..If Georgia wins the title game I think they both leave
If Georgia reaches it and loses it is a toss-up(probably come back)BUT if Georgia doesn’t reach the title game I think both will be back…
remeber that in Moreno’s case he could come back for another year and still technically leave early as a Junior although he’d been here 4 years….
Since Coach Richt has been here he has done a good job of keeping players for most if not all of their eligability!
By College Fan
May 3, 2008 2:00 PM | Link to this
“Speculation is running rampant in the media” means the reporters, columnists and editors are making up stories in order to sell more newspapers. To Hell with the facts and journalistic ethics (an oxymoron), just go sell those papers!
By radlydawg
May 5, 2008 1:48 PM | Link to this
What the hell is the A.J.C. trying to do?????? Sell papers, I guess!!!!!! Why don’t you guys go cover some baseball, fishing, rodeos…something…..and leave those guys alone. My God, it’s not even football season and all you’ve got to do…..is stir the damn pot!!! It’s not bad enough that universities have become GLORIFIED FARM SYSTEMS FOR THE DAMN N. F. L., now you guys want to spur althletes out of town with your paper selling trash talk….even outta season!!!! Get a damn life will ya!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????
RADLY
By LDAWGTHEGR8
May 6, 2008 4:29 PM | Link to this
Here’s the deal folks - does it really matter if they leave early? We’ve got caleb king to run the ball of moreno goes and if I’m not mistaken we just signed one of the top rated QB’s in the country- the #1 rated QB in Fla, so please we have capable people of replacing them - IT IS COLLEGE FOOTBALL- anyone can step in and be even better than the guy that left. Remember year before last we lost greta defensive end players and everyone said our defense would be suspect last year - well guess what it wasn’t, only gave up 3.3 yards per carry and stonewalled the #1 offense in the sugar bowl!! So yes this crap is all stupid to speculate on but in the end it really doesn’t matter anyways - the dawgs will just reload!!
By clay wilson
August 1, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this
Moreno should go and Stafford should stay. However, for unknown reasons, Richt sent Moreno home so he may not play this year.
By Andy Morris
December 4, 2008 7:45 PM | Link to this
You are full of s**! Moreno and Stafford has not committed to the NFL yet! Where in the hell did you get this from? Your own opinion? I do agree with LDAWGTHEGR8 though!
By Jake Waddell
January 4, 2009 11:29 PM | Link to this
Moreno will go ,Staford will stay! Morenos family is a lil poor,,, staford will be better off with 4 years under his belt ,,,, no matter wut happends everyone besides those 2 are coming back especially that O-LINE!!! GO DAWGS bring it back ‘twine the hedges”