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AJC > Sports > UGA > Blog > Archives > 2008 > February > 12 > Entry
Dooley-Adams controversy reignites
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
I’ve been covering this honoring-Vince Dooley business the last couple of days. Hope you’ve had a chance to read those stories and found them informative and maybe even interesting.
What’s interesting to me is, whenever the subject of Dooley and President Michael Adams is broached, it brings out the most passionate responses one could ever imagine. That’s certainly been the case again this week.
To bring you up to date, Adams and Damon Evans brought to the athletic board and the UGA cabinet a proposal to name the area of South Campus that houses all the athletic facilities “the Vince Dooley Athletic Complex.” At the southwest corner, where Pinecrest Drive intersects with South Lumpkin Street, they will construct a big garden, the centerpiece of which will be a giant bronze statue of Coach Dooley on the shoulders of Jeff Harper and Tim Morrison. Anyway, the Board of Regents still has to approve it but that will happen tomorrow (Wednesday).
In the meantime, my assignment was to call around today and see how people close to Dooley felt about the gesture. In the course of doing that I was reminded of what a hot-button issue this thing is. Every once in a while you think the fervor over Adams’ treatment of Dooley a few years back has died down and then something like this comes around and you find out it hasn’t. It’s kind of like a volcano where the magma just goes dormant for a while before heating back up and resurfacing later.
Well, the lava is flowing again folks. I wasn’t able to get all the commentary in my story for tomorrow’s paper so I thought I’d share some of it here.
In general, there are few schools of thought from the folks in the Dooley camp: (1) It’s about time; (2) it’s a backhanded slap of Dooley by Adams, putting his statue a mile or so away from the stadium and; (3) until Dooley’s name is somewhere on that stadium no gesture is good enough.
I heard some real zingers from some people, many of which weren’t able to make my story. Here’s some of the better ones:
Bob Hope, the public relations executive who organized a march on the Board of Regents in Dooley’s honor in 2004, thinks it was a petty move by Adams. “If there ever is a Heisman Trophy for pettiness, Michael Adams will win it and there won’t be a second place.”
Hope went on to say he thinks Adams’ gesture has “reopened Pandora’s box” and will ignite again the movement put Dooley’s name on the stadium.
Said Buck Belue, quarterback of the 1980 national championship team: “I read where Adams doesn’t like using hyphens. Maybe he’s wanting to save it for Sanford-Adams Stadium.”
Jeff Harper, a former offensive lineman whose likeness is part of the Dooley statue, can’t understand why Gov. Sonny Perdue, a UGA alum and former player, and others in state government won’t champion Dooley’s cause. “I don’t know why the Regents haven’t stepped up for Coach Dooley. What about the governor? I’ll tell you this, I’m giving no money to the University of Georgia until Michael Adams is gone. All Coach Dooley asked for was one more year and he wouldn’t give it to him. Fire Adams and I’ll resume my support.”
Not every Dooley supporter was quite as venomous. Tim Morrison is also depicted on the statue carrying his coach on his shoulder after the Bulldogs’ regular season-ending win over Georgia Tech in 1980. “I thought it was a great idea,” he said of the garden plaza featuring the statue. “I thought it should have been on North Campus but at least it will be prominently displayed. I still think they should name the stadium after him. I don’t know if politics are involved or what but for Coach Dooley to have been treated the way he has been is unjust.”
Frank Ros, now an executive with Coca-Cola, was captain of that 1980. He was eloquent. “For what Vince Dooley has done for the University of Georgia, anything and everything they do that recognizes is appreciated and well-deserved. Hopefully they’ll still name the stadium for him because he put Georgia football on the national map. At the same time, he probably made a bigger contribution as athletic director so it’s fitting that they’d name the whole complex after him.”
Ros said he’s doubtful Dooley’s name will ever be placed on the stadium as long as Adams is UGA’s president. “He’s made that clear on a number of occasions,” Ros said. “He’s made the statement before that ‘the stadium already has a name.’ But I think you have to be respectful of a person’s accomplishments regardless of your politics.”
Now obviously former Dooley players are going to be pretty biased on an issue such as this. That’s all just leftover stuff from Tuesday’s interviews.
But we’re interested in hearing all sides this story. Let me know where you stand on it. And that includes those of you that may side with Dr. Adams on it. I’m particularly interested in hearing from you.
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By Michael
February 12, 2008 7:15 PM | Link to this
I gave money to UGA every year until the uproar over Dooley. Once the academic side of the controversy won out over the hillbilly/footballer side I could safely give again. Why did I go to a football school? (Oh yeah, best U in the state and not from The South and I didn’t realize …)
By Villa Rica Dawg
February 12, 2008 7:15 PM | Link to this
I think Dooley field at Sanford Stadium is a compromise I could live with.
I do believe the statue should be at the stadium since it has a football theme.
Maybe they could erect a statue celebrating his tenure as AD at the Garden.
By ga_girl
February 12, 2008 7:19 PM | Link to this
Mike Adams is only out for one person: himself. His flagrant disregard for this university’s past and its traditions is just ridiculous. Having a president as divisive as him is only hampering the University.
By T
February 12, 2008 7:20 PM | Link to this
The Board of Regents backing Dooley? Can you say Jan Kemp? Give me a break. Dooley was a mooch, and an average coach at best. Take the years 80-82 out of his 25 and you have a VERY average coach. The Board of Regents backing Dooley.. that was a good one.
By CitrusDawg
February 12, 2008 7:23 PM | Link to this
Geez, name the stadium after him.
By randy
February 12, 2008 7:29 PM | Link to this
if they don’t change the name to dooley field at sanford stadium it will be a sin
By randy
February 12, 2008 7:33 PM | Link to this
T you are a dickhead, guess you are georgia tech, or tennessee, get off the remarks
By jay
February 12, 2008 7:36 PM | Link to this
There are three options… Dooley-Sanford Stadium Sanford-Dooley Stadium Dooley Field at Sanford Stadium
By Mike
February 12, 2008 7:37 PM | Link to this
I wish they would name the the field after Dooley. It will probably happen some time after Adams is gone (wish Adams would have gotten the Ohio State job). But even with Adams here and the “hostility” between Adams and Dooley, I cannot imagine letting it interfere with my supporting my school. The University of Georgia is bigger than either of these two men. It really disappoints me to hear alums talk of withholding support until Adams is gone. Kind of like cutting off your nose to spite your face.
By S.P.
February 12, 2008 7:50 PM | Link to this
In case people have forgotten, the institution’s name is “The UNIVERSITY of Georgia.” There is an academic institution surrounding Sanford Stadium folks and the leaders of the academic institution determine its direction. Mr. Adams is a brilliant, educated man who deserves our respect for furthering a great ACADEMIC institution. Mr. Adams actually respects tradition by not diluting the stadium’s name with some kind of ridiculous, hyphenated name. Aside from the ONE championship, Dooley didn’t even accomplish as much as Richt has in the past 5 years. I, as an alum (which is more than I can say for most folks on any Georgia blogs), respect Mr. Adams’ position for tradition: It’s Sanform Stadium and it should stay like that.
By tnd
February 12, 2008 8:00 PM | Link to this
I currently go to georgia, and even though i was not alive at the time of dooley’s dynasty, i still feel that he should have a major place in history of football. The statue should not be placed in south campus, his legacy lives in the stadium. Below is my suggestion…
Dooley field at Sanford Stadium and also placing the statue around sanford(dooley)dr. right in front near gate 2
By Travis Hill
February 12, 2008 8:06 PM | Link to this
To: S.P.
I guess that your user name (S. P.) stands for Sausage Puffer….and I think it’s Adams sausage you are puffing…..
Dooley deserves more than what Adams wants to give him….Adams is a royal a*….He’s has pushed the die-hard RV fans to the outskirts of the University…..Hey Idiot Adams….We travel, we give huge contributions to the University…..
Mike Adams SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!
Final Answer!!!!!!!!!!!!
By AltamahaDawg
February 12, 2008 8:14 PM | Link to this
Mike another name for “withholding” thier funds is, “if anyone is looking for me, I’ll be in the back of the ticket line”.
By Dark Corner Dawg
February 12, 2008 8:15 PM | Link to this
Chip….. my dear friend, were you not at the opening ceremonies at the Sugar Bowl? You think the fervor is over at times ? The Sugar Bowl Boos sent a message to Mr. Adams and it will not get ant better until he is gone! Maybe that indoor practice facility will be named in Dooley’s honor as well. Sanford Staidum is fine and Sanford Dooley Stadium is fine too. But something should be placed near the Stadium in honoring Coach Dooley.
By onion dawg
February 12, 2008 8:19 PM | Link to this
We all know that UGA is an academic institution first but Dooley’s contributions have been second to none. His accomplishments took place at Sanford staduim so put the statue there for crying out loud. The regents, the govenor, congressmen need to step up and reel in the Adams. He has too much control if he is able to pull this off. Think about it, Adams isn’t a Georgia man and never will be, as he interviews for Ohio State, so why do we Georgia people stand by and let an outsider go against the wishes of 98% of the people want. We need all need to stand up to this bullsh??
By spike
February 12, 2008 8:20 PM | Link to this
Get rid of Michael “It’s not the worlds largest outdoor cocktail party” Adams a$$ and make Dooley president of UGA. No more money from this alum until Adams goes. And for you other Poindexters on here, this is a SPORTS blog. Dooley IS UGA football!!
By Steven
February 12, 2008 8:21 PM | Link to this
Dooley field has a nice ring to it, no need to change the name of the stadium when you can honor Dooley in this way. As for withholding support until Adams is gone, I give the same answer every time the alumni association calls: “I will not contribute anything until Adams is gone” How else do you purpose we make our displeasure known? The power of the purse dictates what happens at UGA or any university for that matter.
By Steven
February 12, 2008 8:21 PM | Link to this
Dooley field has a nice ring to it, no need to change the name of the stadium when you can honor Dooley in this way. As for withholding support until Adams is gone, I give the same answer every time the alumni association calls: “I will not contribute anything until Adams is gone” How else do you propose we make our displeasure known? The power of the purse dictates what happens at UGA or any university for that matter.
By jane
February 12, 2008 8:23 PM | Link to this
“Between the hedges at Sanford Stadium” is a good as it gets. Honor him with the complex.
By Kendall
February 12, 2008 8:25 PM | Link to this
Ok, first off, nothing with the name of Sanford should be removed. Now that I have said that, its simple. Dooley Field at Sanford Stadium. Easy. BUT, we have DAMA in charge now and it makes me miss the days when Fred ran the university. For those of you retards that want to diminish CVD’s record, remember, and I will try and educate you here, that most of his tenure there were only 10 games and MANY fewer bowl games. Also, for the dolt that said CMR has done more than Dooley, not yet. He may in time, but not yet. Count up the SECC and Dooley has more, against some of the best college coaches in the history of the game. Also, look at the Sears Trophy while Dooley was AD. ALWAYS in the top ten. Adams is a megalomaniac. Go look that word up tech nerds.
By adam
February 12, 2008 8:26 PM | Link to this
Name the stadium whatever you want but save some room on it for Mark Richt. His record may dwarf Dooley’s in the future.
By Automatic for the Coach
February 12, 2008 8:26 PM | Link to this
No one says “Grant Field at Bobby Dodd Stadium” and no one would say “Dooley Field at Sanford Stadium.” It’s either Grant Field or Bobby Dodd Stadium and in the last 10-15 years more often than not it’s Bobby Dodd Stadium. I imagine if they put the statue in the stadium and named it “Dooley Field” most folks would still just say “Sanford Stadium” and Adams could still walk around in his bow tie with his smug grin and feel good about himself. Go ahead and get it done.
By Tallahassee Dawg
February 12, 2008 8:34 PM | Link to this
I was there for Butts and others. Let’s keep it “Between the Hedges at Sanford Stadium”
By Tallahassee Dawg
February 12, 2008 8:35 PM | Link to this
I was there for Butts and others. Let’s keep it “Between the Hedges at Sanford Stadium”
By Leslie22h
February 12, 2008 8:35 PM | Link to this
Personally, I think the proposed Vince Dooley Athletic Complex is a fine tribute to the coach. I’m also not at all opposed to naming the field at Sanford Stadium in Dooley’s honor, although I have my doubts that this will happen during Michael Adams’ tenure at UGA.
By Dark Corner Dawg
February 12, 2008 8:35 PM | Link to this
Vince Dooley’s record speaks for itself. Whether some folks who want to make an argument about who coached before ,after or alongside him doesn’t really matter. Dooley is and always will be and icon in the SEC and in Georgia Football. IMO I think that the Sanford Stadium should keep its traditional name. Dr. Sanford was instrumental in having the stadium built and unlike Adams, Dr. Sanford was a true friend to Georgia Athletics. Dooley should be honored with a Statue at the Stadium because its simply the right thing to do.
By Buckhead Bulldog
February 12, 2008 8:37 PM | Link to this
Automatic for the Coach
I NEVER trust any “man” in a bow tie>
By Adam
February 12, 2008 8:46 PM | Link to this
Please do not rename Sanford Stadium. It is a great name and hyphenated names are no good.
Adams has done a fine job as president and be glad Dooley moved out before he became another Frank Broyles at Arkansas. Dooley is a legend, but that doesn’t give him a right to stand above the University. Richt will stay forever and be more successful than Dooley. What will be do then, Sanford-Dooley-Richt-Stadium?
By FLA DAWG
February 12, 2008 8:53 PM | Link to this
If Adams intentionally wanted to keep Dooley’s name out of the stadium that’s bad enough. But if he actually believes he is honoring Dooley by naming a facility few will see then it’s even worse.
If Dawg Fans think he gave a second thought to the booing he received at the Sugar Bowl, think again. This guy could care less.
“Dooley Field at Sanford Stadium” - what’s the harm in that? Adams would be giving Dooley an immortality that ADAMS WILL NEVER HAVE - and therein lies the reason - jealousy of the respect and love Dooley receives from thousands of people. Adams can’t have it so he wants to deny to Dooley.
By War Eagle
February 12, 2008 8:53 PM | Link to this
Who are the most successful SEC football coaches the last fifty years? Neyland, Tenn-Dodd, Tech, Vaught Ole Miss, Jordan, Auburn, Bryant Bama, Dooley- UGA. Who is the only one a Stadium DOES NOT their name? Coach Dooley…. its a shame if the Adams Express does a different location..
By BAMADAWG
February 12, 2008 9:04 PM | Link to this
I don’t like the way Adam put it but I don’t want to rename the stadium either. But the area they are going to use needs to be at the stadium. Anything else is b/s.
By S.P.
February 12, 2008 9:07 PM | Link to this
How nice Travis Hill. Aren’t you just all grown up. Definitely makes my point that most of the UGA bloggers, including Travis Hill, never attended a class in our fine institution. How’d Kennesaw State work out for you Travis?
Apparently, it’s obvious you had a little trouble with English 101; but I have an insatiable appetite for your junior high comedy. I’m sure you’ll have to look that up.
“Tween the Hedges at Sanford Stadium” NO HYPHENATED NAMES!
By Dark Corner Dawg
February 12, 2008 9:15 PM | Link to this
Well there is one thing most folks on this blog do agree with and that is we don’t like Adams. Whether or not it’s still the Worlds Largest Cocktail Party to me Mr Adams! Seems Adams has a problem with history and tradition. . Vince Dooley is a part of UGA Tradition and History and should be honored!
By AltamahaDawg
February 12, 2008 9:19 PM | Link to this
FLA DAWG. Speak for yourself, I see that all the time.
Some of us DO consider that the Georgia Athletic program is not contained inside of Sanford stadium. Hundreds of thousands will see it. Just like they see the NC trophy, which isn’t anywhere close to the stadium, just like they see Walker’s Heisman, again, nowhere close to the stadium. I’d say most avid fans of UGA are as familiar with that location as most other parts of the campus.
What I dont get in the debate is this: If the whole rift between Adams and Dooley was over not letting him coach football, I could see it, but it was over his last term as AD. Setting up a tribute to him as AD, down at the the epicenter of the Georgia Atletic association, at the gateway to the building that houses any significant piece of UGA athletic memorabilia (including football) doesn’t seem like such a horrible jesture. I think of Coach Dooley as more than just somebody who coached football at our football stadium.
By Coach Dooley
February 12, 2008 9:20 PM | Link to this
Folks, why all the fuss? What’s the matter with you people? Don’t you know I am the most crooked coach in history?
By Pewtus Gortsler 65
February 12, 2008 9:23 PM | Link to this
There was Deyoob and Deyeeb and then there wasn’t. They went out to seek it out. Steam arose from the balgum and folks could smell it. I drank dark liquor for a while until I felt a warm sensation run down my leg. I’ll see ya tomorrow!
By jjacket
February 12, 2008 9:29 PM | Link to this
I’m a GT fan and even i know that the field at Sanford ought to be named after Dooley.
No one in the college football world is going to hear about the athletic areas being named after Dooley, but everyone would hear if the field at Sanford were named after Dooley.
Adams wasn’t there to build UGA’s program. Dooley was. That stadium is the stadium that Dooley built. It should have his name on it.
By shane #1
February 12, 2008 9:33 PM | Link to this
i am no fan of dr adams,and i think this is quite an honor for coach dooley.i do not like the constant renaming of stadiums,airports,and etc.uga is making tons of money on athletics so the dooley center will continue to grow.so will the tribute to coach dooley.adams may have out smarted himself on this one!coach richt has built quite a team this year and more talent is on the way.i think there is a real possibility that uga will win one,possibly two,national championships in the next five years.ten years from know it may be mark richt field at samford stadium!
By George Nowicki
February 12, 2008 9:35 PM | Link to this
I was a freshman under Wally Butts, a redshirt, sophmore and junior under Johnny Griffith and fifth year senior under Vince Dooley.I was one of only 4 players to span the 3 coaches. Dooley should be honored at the stadium, either with the statue at gate 2, or the name Dooley Field at Sanford Stadium. Because of HIM(primarily) the stadium is Huge.
By Titan
February 12, 2008 9:39 PM | Link to this
Let me start by saying I am not a GA fan in any shape, form or fashion. Don’t evem like GA sports teams — I’m a dyed in the wool Kentucky fan!! Having said that, Michael Adams is an absolute ah_!! He cares about nothing but Michael Adams—period! Ego doesn’t begin to describe this self-centered maniac. Remember, he was at a Kentucky college before and the people there hated him!! It’s all about this SOB in his mind. He will never make a pimple on Vince Dooley’s behind. Georgia folks need to honor Vince who put UGA on the map!!
By Sam T
February 12, 2008 9:41 PM | Link to this
Adams is a petard. As are the idiots who don’t realize how much the revenue generated under Dooley by the athletic program enhanced their educational experience.
By GSB
February 12, 2008 9:41 PM | Link to this
Obviously, “randy” is the redneck in this bunch…can’t capitalize properly, tries to blame GT and Tennessee for his woes, ends with a non-sensical statement. Yep, he’s a Georgia fan!
By GSB
February 12, 2008 9:41 PM | Link to this
Obviously, “randy” is the redneck in this bunch…can’t capitalize properly, tries to blame GT and Tennessee for his woes, ends with a non-sensical statement. Yep, he’s a Georgia fan!
By AltamahaDawg
February 12, 2008 9:44 PM | Link to this
Those hyphonated name changes were in style back in the 70s. I can’t think of any significant ones since. Doing it in Alabama should be the reason NOT to do it here. Dr. Sanford’s story with that Stadium is unique, leave it alone. Besides we are likely to see at least 2 more great football coaches at Georgia before that stadium is retired, what then?
By weak
February 12, 2008 9:52 PM | Link to this
These folks humor me! Spending all their time worrying about UGA football. Most probably never attended a class at UGA. I wish all I had to do was worry about statues, donations, and a football record…bottom line..Richt makes a lot of cash, Dooley made/makes a lot of cash, Adams makes a lot of cash. Hence, why does it matter how they are honored or not honored. All their bills are paid and they are not missing a meal ever. Come back
By Hunk Erdown
February 12, 2008 10:00 PM | Link to this
I am all for honoring Coach Dooley, but not at the expense of a “tack on” to the tradition of “‘tween the hedges’ at Sanford Stadium”. That belittles the tradition, the name of Dr. Sanford, and is a cheap way of giving tribute to a wonderful man, Coach Vince Dooley. Of Course they will tally the votes on the Poll, and people like myself will once again not be counted, because the only way we can vote says no to the stadium name addition, which we agree with, but then it says “because Coach Dooley is not worthy”, which we do not agree with. Whoever words the poll questions is an idiot. They did the same thing on a John Rocker question earlier and so many folks complained they pulled the poll. Anyway, it would be great if it were feasible to build a park as planned outside the stadium, or move the stadium over to the Athletic Complex, but since neither is feasible, The park, outside of and entering the athletic complex is the best idea. Unlike Buck Belue, i will consider it an honor to make a special trip (less than a mile) to be able to visit such a beautiful tribute to such a special individual in UGA’s rich history. Kind of Ironic that Coach Dooley is so special to so many people, but his million dollar park is too far out of their way if it is not something they can “kill two birds with one stone” and give it a glance on their way into the stadium. Build a slightly smaller replica of it outside the stadium and reference the park with directions for the folks that would consider it an honor to go visit, and soak in the ambiance while realizing that Coach Dooley was much more than football to UGA. He had 25 years of remarkable success with National Championships in so many other areas than just football. Everyone knows that Coach Dooley was a great football coach, but there are still folks out there that don’t fully comprehend the success he brought to UGA as the Athletic Director. I think that the park and all that it includes is 100 times more significant than just tacking on his name to the field. The pity of the whole thing is that because so many people did not get their way when they wanted the field/stadium named after Dooley that they can’t see how much better the current plans are. Its all because they feel some kind of loss to Adams instead of a tremendous victory for Dooley. Either way you are enabling the strentgh of Adams because he is laughing his a$$ off at the stupidity of the thing. He succombs to the pressure of the alumni and gives them something fantastic and the alumni wants to cry because they did’nt get Adams to back down on putting Dooley’s name on the field. And yes, you can bet that within a few years Coach Richt will surpass Coach Dooley’s record as a Football Coach, and because a precedent has been set, folks will begin to cry out for Coach Richt’s name to be added to the field/stadium. Just leave the stadium alone and give anyone that ends up deserving to be honored the tribute in a way that is unique. No, we don’t need to copy Auburn, Tennessee, or Alabama… I’d be willing to bet that Jordan, Bryant, or Neyland have anything like the million dollar tribute that UGA plans to honor Coach Dooley with.
By AltamahaDawg
February 12, 2008 10:12 PM | Link to this
Chip, since the passionate responces are about the exact same as they were about not being able to park on a couple of manicured lawns, I would say, you can draw several conclusions.
By howabout
February 12, 2008 10:39 PM | Link to this
How about “Sanford-Adams Sucks” stadium? It would fit right in with Butt-Smear field.
By Truth
February 12, 2008 10:42 PM | Link to this
Jake Scott would have different words about Dooley. Dooley didn’t honor his word as a coach and Scott walked out the door to become a Canadian Football Player who would later return to the NFL and become a NFL MVP.
Dooley won a Nation Championship, but sooner than later had the grade fixing scandel. From that point it was down hill and that is what everyone forgets and should remember.
Only after Dooley was removed from the mix did Georgia start to improve after many years of disgrace or not winning any championships…and there were many years. After he retired, or was forced out, GA got an SEC Championship some 20+ years later.
He also had the scandel that kept him from running for Governor.
I think he is getting more than he deserves.
By YourWorstEnemy
February 12, 2008 10:50 PM | Link to this
As a GT alum who was there during the Dooley/Hershel/Buck era, I will offer my two cents: I have reluctantly over the years come to have the utmost respect for Coach Dooley. Most people use the term class, which I agree, but I will do you one better: Grace. He has not only led the football program to its greatest heights, I think he has done the same thing with the entire UGA athletics program. He deserves both the Stadium naming honor and the athletics residence honor. Coach Dooley, all this pettiness is beneath you, stay graceful and quiet to this nonsense.
Now for most of you half-wit knuckleheads who call yourselves the “Dawg Nation” (I am talking about those who cannot remember their wedding anniversary, or that they never attended UGA, but they can remember some obscure nothing fact about the football program) - remember this: Michael Adams is fate paying you back for your lack of class and I think it is hilarious. HA HA HA HA HA………..Sucka
By Joe
February 12, 2008 10:54 PM | Link to this
Chip, you totally contradict Bob Hope from your article to the blog. In the article, you paint him as being appreciative of Adams’ gesture. In this blog you have the quote from Hope about the Heisman for pettiness.
I am a bit confused by the different quotes.
By GA_GAL
February 12, 2008 10:56 PM | Link to this
And now for the rest of the story, rumor is Gov. Perdue was a less than average football player who got snubbed by Coach Dooley back in the day. He’s still holding a grudge and propping up Pres. Adams. If that is true,neither of these men are going to glorify Dooley, I know it is a sports blog but that’s politics baby! I love UGA football, got breathless when I met Coach Dooley face to face, but I am also proud of my education. Most people who graduated during the tenure of Dooley that were not athletes but fans, love him but probably would not have wanted him to be president of their university or head of their academic department— we wanted him to rock athletics, which he did and did well. Let’s honor him now and if it’s not enough, we can honor him later. The fans need to concentrate on what they can do to honor Dooley and not worry about what Adams won’t do. BTW, you haven’t lived until you’ve boogied to Give Herschel Walker the Ball!
By bigredg
February 12, 2008 11:03 PM | Link to this
The thing much of the general public doesn’t realize is that in addition to his contributions as coach and AD, Dooley has significant financial gifts to the school and has used his influence to raise money for non-athletic initiatives as well as athletic ones. Knowing that one of the chief functions of any university president is to develop funding sources, I ask: What other university president would treat a donor this way? After the Gradys and the Woodruffs, you’d be hard-pressed to find another individual who has had a greater impact on UGA than Dooley, and placed in that context, it is unfathomable that Adams would seemingly slight him at every turn, even in the act of honoring him.
By GA_GAL
February 12, 2008 11:52 PM | Link to this
Totally unrelated but does anyone know if Chip went to UGA in the early 90s. If so, he may be someone I remember from college and specifically working at College Station Kroger. He was a sports nut then. And if that’s the guy.. congratulations! You told me at work about 17 years ago dead level serious that you wanted to be the next Larry Munson. I was kind of skeptical that you would even come close… looks like you are on your way!
By DC DAWG
February 13, 2008 12:14 AM | Link to this
I graduated from UGA in 1983. Since then, I have been able to donate something to UGA, even it was $25. I stopped donating to UGA when Adams declared war on Vince Dooley. I will continue to withhold my donations to UGA until Adams is run out of Athens on a rail! My graduate alma mater benefits because I give the money to them rather than UGA.
Vince Dooley has more integrity in his pinky than Adams could fathom in a thousand years. Vince Dooley has done more for UGA than Adams will ever do. Adams belongs in the same lack of integrity league as Fred Davidson. Both have the scruples of a garden slug and deserve the scorn of every alumnus of UGA.
By Reason
February 13, 2008 12:24 AM | Link to this
If Richt wins a NC or two, 20 years from now you same knuckleheads are going to be screaming that it should be named Richt Stadium or Richt-Dooley-Sanford stadium/field… etc.
The athletic/park complex sounds nice.
By David
February 13, 2008 12:28 AM | Link to this
Dooley Field at Sanford Stadium isnt a bad idea at all. Im not sure which puzzles me more,..Michael Adams constantly refusing to give Dooley his due, or the fact that UGA and its higher powers allow it to happen. The man gave us our only undisputed, untied national championship. I watched him lead UGA to a throttling of Bear Bryant and his Crimson Tide in Athens…so many times he lead us to battle made us all proud to have him for our leader. Its simply ludicrous that Dooley is kept intentionally, from getting the appreciation he due. A most significant piece of our history and who we are in dawgnation would simply not exist without Vince Dooley.
By IlliniBrave
February 13, 2008 12:33 AM | Link to this
Like DC Dawg, I have been giving to my alma mater for over 20 years, sometimes in rather substantial amounts. But within a year of hiring Adams, after reading several of his comments on a variety of issues, I began to think of him as an arrogant a$$. Then he began what has been an almost megalomaniacal reign over Georgia athletics, and I began my boycott on giving to UGA. Every year some poor UGA student calls me seeking my donation, and every year I firmly but politely tell them the same thing: “As long as that d* is President, I will not making any gifts to UGA.” Every single alum I’ve met up here in the Midwest has expressed nearly identical sentiments. Does anyone know of any statistics which would support my hypothesis that, although total donations may not have dropped, the number of actual donors has declined?
By V Fort
February 13, 2008 12:38 AM | Link to this
Many of the people saying “rename the stadium” are the same ones who, when Maynard Jackson’s name was added to the airport, cried “leave well enough alone.”
I like Dooley a lot, and I respect him immensely, but it’s Sanford Stadium and should remain so. A statue is a nice gesture, and we should rally around the idea instead of nitpicking the details in which we honor him and assuming alterior motives are at hand. Let’s let cooler, mature heads prevail, and not overshadow Coach Dooley’s honor by regurgitating the temperment from the feud from years ago.
By Hunk Erdown
February 13, 2008 2:25 AM | Link to this
Dooley asked for one more year and Adams refused him. That’s the main reason that I don’t like Adams… there are other reasons, but I just basically don’t like his demeanor/personality at all. But this thing about the stadium needing to be named after Coach Dooley has become ridiculous. As I said before, the issue of renaming the stadium has far less to do with honoring Coach Dooley and more to do with the fact that there is a feud that has taken on a life of its own. Adams refuses to give in, and believes he has good reason for it, I happen to agree that this practice of hyphenating in a Coaches name is a thing that started and pretty much ended in the 70’s and I never was a big fan of it then and I’m not now. I have always thought that naming a new building or something like this idea for Coach Dooley of the park and athletic center is a much, much higher honor than coupling his name in with someone elses, and then inevitably someone elses on top of that.
I’m like shane, If Adams had anything to do with it and meant for it to be a slight towards Dooley I think it backfired on him because it is a wonderful idea. But the fact of the matter is that this whole deal is a testosterone laden ego battle. Adams refuses to back down and the people who have been fighting him on it refuses to see that this new idea is better anyway… They just want to see Adams have to suffer a strike to his ego and some phantom loss of power. The money alone should be evidence enough that these new plans are better; adding Dooley’s name to the field will cost very little, but the Park and naming the entire athletic complex after him will cost around a million dollars. The park will be a source of new revenue in the form of prints and memorabilia sold to collectors and fans… revenue that could be used for scholarships or charitable donations in Dooley’s name (or at least because of Dooley’s name). Re-naming the field will produce no new revenue it will only make the current memorabilia outdated. Everyone says that there is nothing on that end of the campus (where the park will be) dealing with football… wrong! All the trophies for SECCs, and the NCAA Championship trophy… along with all sorts of interesting things dealing with the history of UGA Athletics… right next door!!!
Get over the friggin feud and support Coach Dooley. One of the reasons for having a park there with all the shrubs and flowers is so that the Dooleys can actually transplant some of the beautiful plants he has in his own back yard garden, which is a beautiful “park” in its own right. When you really get down to it, whoever thought all this up has done a wonderful job of making a worthwhile and even personalized tribute to Coach Dooley.
As it is right now, when UGA commits a scholarship to a player, if that player gets hurt (Even before the student actually enrolls) UGA honors that scholarship. This park could generate so much revenue that it could pay for that student’s education and expenses and free up the athletic scholarship for another, healthy, athelete… there are so many positives that could come out of this its incredible… if only folks would swallow their pride, get their heads out of their a$$, and look for something good, for a change. Its time to realize that the stadium and field is going to stay the same as they are now. Blogging on here about “what a disgrace it is”… “a slap in Dooley’s face” is not only childish, it is wrong. It does nothing to honor Coach Dooley to bicker and complain about it, all it does is causes what should be a celebration for the Dooley family to be a controversial circus, and thats not Adams’ fault… he has finally progressed to doing something positive for Coach Dooley, its people like Bill King, Buck Belue, and you other people that I shall crown as, “Dooley’s Knights Templar” who have diluted this thing into the sham it has become. I don’t know if Chip could pull it off if he wanted to, but its time for someone to step up and be a hero… play this tribute up for what it is, an incredible and unique opportunity to honor a great man. I doubt very seriously that Coach Dooley is very proud of what is going on here and it is certainly giving the UGA haters a perfect forum to chime in with you and spew their vile venom. It even appears that the haters and the so-called “Rename the stadium/ Dooley’s Knights Templar” are joined at the hip in their hatred of anyone that disagrees with them. Renaming the Stadium is a lost cause, lets get over it and unite the Nation. Come August things will be much better if we are all together.
By Dan
February 13, 2008 2:43 AM | Link to this
Michael Adams can BITE MY A*!!!!!!
By How Bout them Dawgs!
February 13, 2008 5:58 AM | Link to this
Vince Dooley is a true southern legend. I grew up during the “Junkyard Dawg” Era and saw the “Run Hershel” Dawgs as well. I remember sitting in Sanford Stadium when it held 55,000 and have visited it in its present configuration. The Glory Days were the Dooley years. From Jake Scott to Lindsey Scott, from Buck Belue to Buzzy Rosenburg. Dooley did a great job and was loyal to UGA. He had a chance to return to Auburn and run for office but his heart was and is at UGA. I do not know Dooley (I have met him) or Adams;but I suspect the “this town is not big enough for the two of us” comes into play. Not only did dooley oversee the Stadium Expansions but he also brought lights to the Stadium (Clemson Game, UCLA). Dooley Field at Sanford Stadium is the right thing to do. Money is not what life is about…but to realize that your efforts have been appreciated makes for contentment. The Stadium is where Dooley should be Honored!
By How Bout them Dawgs!
February 13, 2008 5:58 AM | Link to this
Vince Dooley is a true southern legend. I grew up during the “Junkyard Dawg” Era and saw the “Run Hershel” Dawgs as well. I remember sitting in Sanford Stadium when it held 55,000 and have visited it in its present configuration. The Glory Days were the Dooley years. From Jake Scott to Lindsey Scott, from Buck Belue to Buzzy Rosenburg. Dooley did a great job and was loyal to UGA. He had a chance to return to Auburn and run for office but his heart was and is at UGA. I do not know Dooley (I have met him) or Adams;but I suspect the “this town is not big enough for the two of us” comes into play. Not only did dooley oversee the Stadium Expansions but he also brought lights to the Stadium (Clemson Game, UCLA). Dooley Field at Sanford Stadium is the right thing to do. Money is not what life is about…but to realize that your efforts have been appreciated makes for contentment. The Stadium is where Dooley should be Honored!
By get ready
February 13, 2008 6:05 AM | Link to this
I propose renaming achapter in the bible after him. Maybe the koran too.
By Greg
February 13, 2008 6:11 AM | Link to this
Make it Dooley Field at Sanford Stadium. At Fla. State they have Bobby Bowden Field @ Campbell Stadium. At the minimum the statue should be at the stadium.
By CoastDog
February 13, 2008 6:31 AM | Link to this
One thing about Adams-he is an equal opportunity petty tyrant. He is univerally disliked by just about everyone at the University-professors, students, contributors and all. His loyal boot-lickers are the ones who bought their positions and hired him from Unknown U. The governor has to support his good old boy group of regents. So we’re stuck with all of them.
By David
February 13, 2008 6:48 AM | Link to this
Where would Dooley have been without Herschel? Where would Dooley be if he had thought about passing the ball to Herschel? If that thought had occurred to him, he may deserve to have the stadium named for him. Not recognizing Herschel’s potential just makes him another average coach.
By DieHardDawg
February 13, 2008 7:08 AM | Link to this
January 1, 1982, New Orleans, Pittsburgh and Dan Marino has the ball on the Georgia 35, 4th down and long, Georgia is leading, about 30 seconds left in the game, Dooley blitzes all but the corners, and Marino completes a TD pass down the middle to a wide open John Brown to win the game. Corners did not have a chance.
January 1, 1983, New Orleans, Penn State…..more of the same.
Nah, not stadium naming stuff.
By YANKEEDAWG
February 13, 2008 7:16 AM | Link to this
Why not erect the statue at the plaza outside the bookstore and name the whole area Dooley Plaza at Sanford Stadium?
By Big Ed
February 13, 2008 7:18 AM | Link to this
Geez Congress had an easier time passing the economic stimulus package. It was easier to add a name to Hartsfield Airport. Get over it and just slap his name on the stadium. It’s not that big a deal.
By Randy
February 13, 2008 7:28 AM | Link to this
Wow, Chip.
Some hard hitting journalism there. So you call bunch of Dooley’s former players and friends. What are they going to say?
Why can’t people just admit there isn’t enough support to get Dooley’s name on the stadium?
If there was support, this wouldn’t be that hard to do. But, no Dooley and his cronies are forcing this on the general public.
By Rickdog
February 13, 2008 7:38 AM | Link to this
I didn’t think this was a big deal. Adams has done much worse.
By rdnblkdawg
February 13, 2008 7:42 AM | Link to this
THE DOOLEY HEDGE. I am not for changing the stadium name or adding it to the field. Let’s do something different. We started the hedge, everyone has copied it. The stadium may be known more for “between the hedges” than Sanford Stadium. I think the honor on south campus is a nice jesture.
By DawgieStyle
February 13, 2008 7:45 AM | Link to this
NO DOOLEY ANYTHING! GO AWAY VINCE!
By Gov. Sonny Perdue
February 13, 2008 7:50 AM | Link to this
If Mike Adams will fly out of Georgia today and never return, I will name the Atlanta airport Hartsfield-Jackson-Adams International Airport.
By FLA DAWG
February 13, 2008 7:57 AM | Link to this
ALTAMAHADAWG - I’m glad you get to see the Southwest area. Most fans DO NOT. When almost 100,000 fans come to Athens for a game they walk into Sanford Stadium. I think the absence of a statue to Dooley or adding his name to the stadium is a fitting move for what this man has done for the athletics program AND the school. I am surprised you are against it! As far as the diverse opinions on this blog, take out bloggers who are not UGA students, alumni & Dawg fans and it is overwhelmingly supportive of adding his name and / or placing his likeness in the stadium.
By Botox
February 13, 2008 7:58 AM | Link to this
I think they ought to have Dooley and Wally Butts on the ground carrying Michael Adams on THEIR shoulders with Jan Kemp behind them cracking a whip. Next up - when is the statue of Jim Harrick and his son going up in front of Stegman?
By shane #1
February 13, 2008 8:06 AM | Link to this
after a night to think about it i like the dooley athletic center idea even more.people remember his mistakes in the ad post more than his successes.hiring hugh durham and mark richt were no doubt his best moves as ad.but uga became a champion in every thing from golf and tennis to ladie’s gymnastics during his tenure.his dignity and class made him the best representative the university has ever had.he was much more than a football coach.
By DieHardDawg
February 13, 2008 8:09 AM | Link to this
Why not Munson-Dooley Field at Sanford Stadium?
By Notadawg
February 13, 2008 8:11 AM | Link to this
Rename the mascot UGADOO
By Peachtree John
February 13, 2008 8:20 AM | Link to this
By The Truth
February 13, 2008 8:22 AM | Link to this
How bout naming a trailer park after Vince. I think it’s fitting considering millions of UGA fans reside in trailer parks.
By AltamahaDawg
February 13, 2008 8:25 AM | Link to this
FLA DAWG there isnt a bigger fan of Dooley in here. I’ve met and talked to him of many occations, have a few signed book, and grew up a fan. Back a few year ago when the cry for his retirement (everyone seems to forget that now) had grown so vocal that it was pretty much accepted as a popular opinion, I was an adament defended of Coach Dooley. I am all for honoring him. I just happen to think that its not a given that if a stadium name isnt changed, its some kind of disgrace. Again thats an outdated practice and I believe Sanford is unique as to why its named that. The real problem exist as to what to do with the next 2/3 great coaches, if this is the ONLY fitting tribute. As far as a statue here or there, I’m not going to get all riled about that. I do NOT believe for a second that the only reason the statue is not at the stadium , and actually in the NEW Dooley Complex is that Adams is trying to insult Vince Dooley. It’s just my opinion, but an entire park area and sport complex seems a greater tribute than a single statue. And its pretty silly to build an entire dedicated area and not put the statue actually in it. And I’m sorry you never have seen any of the football trophies, thats a shame. You Aught to check it out, its down where every last piece of hardware and historical record that has any thing to do with our football program, including all other former coaches and players is housed.
By 16 -12 and more of it this year
February 13, 2008 8:31 AM | Link to this
You dawg fans need to hope you can win basketball and important football games rather than worrying about tributes to Dooley. Gamecocks will be Victorious tonight in Athens. Next is Baseball and then Football in Columbia for the Jaw dropping Win For The Gamecocks!!!!
By UGLA
February 13, 2008 8:36 AM | Link to this
Thanks UGA for your near daily whine on something that makes this state the laughing stock in the eyes of the rest of the country. This kind of crap….”dawg” whiners, car tags, BCS legislation, and dooley/adams ARE indicative of your lack of class.
By FLA DAWG
February 13, 2008 8:41 AM | Link to this
AltamahaDawg,
I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree as they say. I think War Eagle (above) makes a great point though.
In any event;
GO DAWGS!!!!
By AW
February 13, 2008 8:43 AM | Link to this
It is a great honor to have any part of athletic facilities named after you. It shows that you have been immortalized by your University. I agree that a statue by the stadium would be a better location, however, Coach Dooley’s success as the AD was further reaching than his coaching prowress.
As an alum and letterman, I think to have the athletic complex named after him is a welcome addition, but I would add that a statue should be done at the stadium as well commerating his success there.
I think Coach Dooley will be very humbled that something will be named after him. He has served the University honorable and will continue to support it. Either way, this is a good thing.
Mike Adams probably voted against it anyways…
By FLA DAWG
February 13, 2008 8:49 AM | Link to this
AW -
A good compromise. And I am in agreement with you that if Adams has not already nixed that idea he would anyway.
By 59bulldawg
February 13, 2008 8:49 AM | Link to this
For those who claim otherwise the level of discontent with Adams among Georgia football fans and alumni is not a football vs. academics schism. Forget football! There are many faculty members at Georgia who care little about athletics who also can’t stand the man. No this is about the unappreciative manner in which the president of the state’s flagship institution treated one of it’s most loved, loyal, competent, and respected employees. Although running a major university requires competent leadership, the brand exhibited by Adams is more akin to the ruthless efficiency of a Soviet style dictator. The manner in which he treated Dooley was shameful. Vince should have been able to retire at a date of his choosing … even if he changed his mind and wanted to serve just one more year. Instead he was forced out like some unwelcome and unperforming hireling. For that Adams will never receive the love, respect, and appreciation that Vince rightly earned during his tenure at Georgia. In my opinion, the effort to honor Coach Dooley thus far is a good start … but the statue should be at Sanford Stadium and the field there should be named in his honor.
By shane #1
February 13, 2008 8:58 AM | Link to this
alt,the uga campus is a historic monument to our forefather’s vision..it is the nations oldest state chartered university,{1785},and should be toured by all georgians,not just football fans.the dooley athletic center should encourage people to see this fine institution of learning in it’s entirety.i have decided to take an extra day next year to see the dooley center and enjoy this beautiful campus that belongs to all of us taxpayers!
By Bowl Rep
February 13, 2008 9:02 AM | Link to this
Dawg Fans… EASY! Please ! Sheesh! go out and have a Chic Fil A Sandwich and Quit worrying about mediocre history tributes!
By zeke
February 13, 2008 9:05 AM | Link to this
I am not a UGA graduate, and, not much of a fan! My alliegence lies with another SEC school! But, this is a mockery! Adams is an idiot! He who would have destroyed football and in fact all athletics at UGA needs to be fired for his blatant personal actions! Don’t know who Sanford was! Don’t care! NAME THE STADIUM FOR V. DOOLEY!
By Long time uga fan
February 13, 2008 9:05 AM | Link to this
I’m a lifetime UGA fan but probably in the minority when it comes to my opinion of dooley. I think he was a good coach but not great. If we take away the herschel walker years dooley was pretty much an average coach. I will always praise him for the national championship but I do not think stanford stadium should be named after him. Our current head coach is much better if you ask me. And dooleys years as AD were absolutely horrible. The UGA football program was in the toilet under his hand pick boy ray goff. Then we had the glenn mason embarrasment under dooley as well. Dooley deserves some recognition but lets not get carried away acting as if he is in the same league as someone like joe paterno. Find a good way to honor him without naming the stadium vince dooley. GEEZ.
By jakekay
February 13, 2008 9:09 AM | Link to this
without #34, dooley is an average coach.
with #34 he wins 1 NC. Thats as many as Donnan had- in a much shorter tenure as a CFB coach
I believe we should hold a space for the guy at the helm now. When its all said and done, Richt will be the best ever
By godawg
February 13, 2008 9:19 AM | Link to this
I am class of ‘83. As previously stated here, Vince Dooley put UGA football on the NATIONAL map AND had an outstanding run as AD.
For most people throughout the South and many throughout the country the name “Vince Dooley” is synonymous with Georgia and Southern football. You hear his name mentioned with the same reverence reserved for other Southeasten coaching greats such as Bear Bryant, Shug Jordan, Bobby Dodd, Johnny Vaught and, dare I say it, Steve Spurrier.
Put his name on the field. Hell, even Pat Dye, (a UGA alum) has his name on the Auburn field and we all know what he did TO Auburn football. Also put the statue over at the stadium. Yes, we have Mark Richt but without Vince Dooley the Georgia football program would have never risen to the stature it now enjoys and wouldn’t have attracted a coach of Mark Richt’s talents. ALL HAIL VD!
WOOF!
By Red Clay Hound
February 13, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this
I say we put the new statue of Dooley in Adams front yard. That way he will have to look at it every day and all of the loyal fans that will come to visit.
By Hugh Howard
February 13, 2008 9:22 AM | Link to this
I agree with Jeff Harper. I have written letters and even spoke with Coach Hartman about this. I think we should have Dooley Field at Sanford Stadium. Ther is no real cost and it is a REAL honor. Put the statue in Sanford Stadium. It’s time the people of GA revolt against this revoltng President we have. He can’t give a tribute without being insulting.
By dawggone
February 13, 2008 9:22 AM | Link to this
Dooley’s record without the 4 great teats is 158-73. That’s not bad, it’s roughly 68% but of course, that is a bit less than a 7-3 record in a 10 game season. In a 12 game season it’s basically, though not exactly, an 8-4 record.
8-4 would not be a good record today.
Of course, if you take any coach’s best 4 years out it will hurt their record. Except maybe Bobby Bowden.
However, Vince did have a lot of 7-4 and 6-5 records in there.
By Dawggone
February 13, 2008 9:25 AM | Link to this
Oops, that’s “Great Years” not “great teats,” or whatever it was I mistyped. Sorry about that.
By GADAWG47
February 13, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this
The athletic board and UGA Cabinet should take it upon themselves to place the statue near the stadium. If they were realistic they would realize that Dooley is a big reason UGA has grown so quickly since the 80s. Adams should realize Dooley is a big reason that his salary has risen since the 80s. Why have the statue 2 miles away?
By Jim
February 13, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this
I think the complex is a great idea and a wonderful way to honor coach Dooley. The stadium already has a name, but this complex has sat nameless for years. This is also the potential site of the indoor practice facility that I’m sure all the Dooley fans will be wanting to see his name on.
As for Michael Adams, he let Dooley go at the right time. I’d rather have Damon Evans and Mark Richt than Vince Dooley and Jim Donnan (the coach Dooley wanted to keep).
By Dr. Kermit P. Soileau
February 13, 2008 9:36 AM | Link to this
I grew up an LSU fan in La. (& still am.) I was stationed in Ga. & married a Brunswick girl & later lived in Jesup. From an outsider’s point of view, Vince Dooley IS UGA football! Ya’ll have a good coach now, but he would not have wanted the job if Dooley hadn’t been around. Dump adams & name the stadium after Dooley - EVERY knowledgable SEC fan would agree!
By godawg
February 13, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this
Long time uga fan, (although I have my doubts to the accuracy of your moniker), to say Vince Dooley was a horrible AD is a moronic statement and terribly inaccurate. Go back and look at the accomplishments of UGA Athletics during Dooley’s tenure and you’ll see how wrong you are.
In a nutshell, under Vince Dooley’s leadership, UGA athletic teams won an astounding 65 SEC Championships & 15 National Championships. I challenge you to find more than one or two programs who fared better during that time. There was a reason Athens was also known as Titletown back then.
For those of you who have not seen it, here is the plan for The Vince Dooley Athletic Complex
By dawggone
February 13, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this
By the way, Vince Dooley is 100 times the man and person Adams is. Vince is a genuinely good person.
Adams is a total creep and universally despised by everyone in Athens who does not make a living as his a s s kisser. But I suppose you all know that.
Adams probably does have “great teats”, if you understand great to mean huge and droopy and not too masculine.
(I can’t believe I typed teats instead of years in my Dooley comment! Sheesh.)
By GT65_UGA89
February 13, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this
GT has Bobby Dodd Stadium at Historic Grant Field
what’s wrong with something along the lines of Dooley Field at Sanford Stadium?
By True Dog
February 13, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this
Naming an entire Sports complex, and raising a statue is a great honor. Let’s face it, Dooley probably did more for the university as an Athletic Director, than he did as a coach. Sorry Buck if it is out of your way to show your children, or grand children this monument, but maybe it is good they see a little more of campus than the football stadium.
By GetOverIt
February 13, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this
How about UGA IV Urinal in Munson Memorial Men’s Room near Goff Concessions at Donnan Stands between Dooley-Richt Hedges at Jan Kemp Field at Sanford Stadium?? Seriously, put the statue at the stadium and maybe name the street that the stadium is on to Dooley Way and keep the complex as planned.
By UGA Alum Class of 2001
February 13, 2008 9:54 AM | Link to this
This whole discussion is a complete and utter waste of time. I could care less what the stadium is “officially” called. It was Sanford Stadium yesterday and will be Sanford Stadium forever more.
Dooley was a good but not great football coach and one of the best athletics directors of all time. Richt’s accomplishments have already dwarfed Dooley’s on the football field. This is especially true considering the parity that exists today that didn’t exist when Dooley was coaching. When (not if) Richt wins a national title then we can start talking about naming the football stadium after a head coach. Naming the athletics facilities after Dooley is a great honor and adequately represents his contributions to the university.
By UGAalum
February 13, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this
First of all I want to say if you are not a UGA fan get your A$$ off this blog. I graduated from UGA and dearly love the school and Athens. I believe that Vince Dooley deserves to be recognised in a big way at Sanford stadium. I would agree that his name should be put on the field. He has done so much for OUR football team, athletic department and university. I also believe that the board of regents should back him and that it is past time for micheal adams(idiot) to GO! I feel he is working to divide the University of Georgia.
By godawg
February 13, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this
dawggone, careful, your Oedipus complex is showing.
I think it’s hilarious that Mike Adam’s concocted this plan thinking, “This is going to be great! The Georgia alums and fans are going to LOVE this! Now they’ll get off my back. I’ll be a HERO!”
Instead, we’re all ripping his balls off. LOL!
By JCDAWG
February 13, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this
Re-naming the athletic complex for Coach Dooley may be “too little”, but at least it’s not being done “too late” for Coach Dooley to enjoy the recognition during his lifetime. Coach Dooley will also participate in the design of the garden and it will be another great legacy.
By Orkin man
February 13, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this
I suppose Adams will rename the Coliseum “Stegeman-Harrick” after his favorite coach.
I agree with the guy who sculpted it, as well as Belue - it should be near Gate Two on Sanford Drive. Plenty of room there now, since Adams doesn’t let us park on streets or sidewalks for games anymore. Tool.
Adams ought to be on Capitol Hill today with Clemens, ‘cause I think his ego takes HGH.
By rob
February 13, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this
Grant Field at Bobby Dodd Stadium is good enough for Tech, so Dooley Field at Sanford Stadium should be good enough for UGA.
I will say this, Sanford Stadium is always going to be called Between the Hedges nationally, so naming the entire athletic complex after him is a fitting gesture. I don’t see why we can’t do both, but Adams won’t be around forever.
Their should be a Statute of Dooley standing prominently in the gardens, or postured in a position that situates him gardening himself, since that is his true love. The statute being created belongs at the stadium.
By David
February 13, 2008 10:27 AM | Link to this
I think Dooley should be honored and naming the entire athletic complex after him is a pretty good honor. I understand why people want to name the stadium or field after him and he is well deserving.
Here’s the only problem. Richt is a much better coach and his record and accomplishments could…I say could well eclipse Dooley’s. His record and winning % are already much greater and Georgia is much more of a national team. People forget Dooley had some very mediocre years. But he should be given credit for those 4 big years and Richt might not be at Georgia if it wasn’t for Dooley….and Herschel.
UGA is much greater than any one coach but Dooley…and Richt are the reasons we are taking in the profit we are…..92,000 fans weren’t crowing into Sanford when Goff or Donnan or even DOoley were there but DOoley is the reason we got to where we are and Mark Richt took advantage of that.
By Gene
February 13, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this
Dooley’s football teams brought the revenue and national prestige that facilitated Adams’ million dollars a year income. Adams has brought us Jim Harrick, Tony Cole, the national pharmacy test disaster, one law suit after another, and he shows no evidence of slowing down. As long as Sonny Perdue is governor, expect more of the same.
By The Rifleman
February 13, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this
Maybe Sonny could write a letter to the AJC and express his opinion about the situation.
By Dan Hughes
February 13, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this
Why not leave the stadium name the same, and name the playing field for Dooley like other schools have done?
By PM
February 13, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this
David, What makes you think UGA won’t have “mediocre” years with Richt at the helm? You likely will.
UGAalum, Having trouble with public opinion that doesn’t suit you or the truth maybe?
By AltamahaDawg
February 13, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this
Look folks, renaming the stadium isn’t going to happen. Personally, I beleive that the cry to do so has WAY more to do with having some additional reasons to hate Adams, that is has to do with any real perception that not to do so somehow belittles Coach Dooley. No other president has proposed it, No future one (please let him be a pleasant person) is going to either. The stadium name is not a Adams Vs Dooley deal. Its just not modern thinking, and someone please tell me what to do with Richt, Bobo??, whoever, when they retire?
What I fear is that the grumbling about Adams (and lets face it, no matter what he does, nobody is going to like it) is taking away from Coach Dooley’s tribute. Maybe there should be a statue geographically closer to the football field than the football offices, who knows, But naming an entire sport complex, that he was the engineer behind IS A BIG HONOR. Seems like seperate issues to me. The PR blunder the athetic board made was letting Adams name anywhere near the press release, because I swear, it would have never met this type of responce. They should have proposed the exact same thing , and positioned it as almost “despite Adams, we are honoring Dooley” and waited for the huge applause.
I know quite a few very damn fine football fans that do not agree as to the extent of coach Dooley’s football legacy, BUT nobody I know disputes that his days of an AD brought about growth and expansion to the department, which is, except for one venue, centered around the heritage building.
It still bothers me that when folks think about Dooley, they care more about hating Adams, that the actual kind words about him and his 25 years, long before that was an issue. You are throwing the baby out with the water to turn this tribute into anything other than what it is, a tribute.
Hopefully this will encourage the average football only fan to go down there. (hmm, ya think that might have been part of the strategic plan?) It’s a pretty cool area.
By George Gipp
February 13, 2008 10:51 AM | Link to this
I think it’s a wonderful and appropriate honor to have the athletic complex named after Coach Dooley. However, I think the statue should be placed at the stadium.
Don’t be so hard on Michael Adams. Despite their differences and the mistakes made in their relationship, he is rightly honoring the Coach at this time. But remember, his main focus is making the University of Georgia the premier institution for higher learning in the south. While he’s not totally responsible for where the university is today, he is doing a good job solidifying UGA’s position in the acedemic world. His legacy depends on it. I don’t think jealousy played any part in President Adams’ actions concerning honoring the coach. I think he truly is trying to do the right thing.
I think UGA is one of the premier football programs in the country and Coach Richt one of the country’s finest coaches. It is also a great university, so let’s show a little support and respect for our president too. It’s time to bury the hachet and move forward. I think that’s what Michael Adams is trying to do.
By Former Dawg
February 13, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this
Dooley does NOT deserve any more honors. He is mediocre, as a coach and as a man. Leave Sanford Stadium alone!
By DawgMom52
February 13, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this
Dooley Field at Sanford Stadium - nothing less should be tolerated. It is embarassing that UGA hasn’t done more to honor Vince Dooley who has an still champions the cause of the university, despite the current president and his cronies. Vince dooley is a class act, a University of Georgia icon, his name is synonymous with all that is good and true at Georgia. By all appearances other universities hold him in higher regard than the folks currently running UGA do which makes it a disgraceful state of affairs. Dooley - still MY DAWG!
By David
February 13, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this
PM,
I understand your question and agree that we will have mediocre years. But Richt’s winning % will FAR exceed Dooley’s and look at their first 7 years. Dooley’s career he averaged 7 -8 wins. That would get Richt fired.
Having said that, I am not saying you can exactly compare them…different times. I am just saying that if you do it for Dooley you better figure out how to do it for Richt because the program is in far better shape across the board, physically, educationally, recruiting, $$….now than it was with Vince.
By Northwest Dawg
February 13, 2008 11:29 AM | Link to this
If the stadium is renamed Dooley-Sanford Stadium, what happens in 20 years when Richt has more wins and more SEC and National Championships than Dooley? Just asking because Richt-Dooley-Sanford Stadium just ain’t happening. The proposed garden and statue at Pinecrest and Lumpkin sounds like a nice, conservative tribute- Athens isn’t Nashville after all- not everything in life has to be gaudy. And I am certainly no fan of Adams and some other kind of tribute to Dooley inside Sanford Stadium is absolutely fine with me.
By tjs
February 13, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this
Dooley was a very average coach, he did preside over integration of UGA football. Though he was not a instigator of this policy. As a AD do you judge him as outstanding ? I don’t, he was a plodder….just average….Don’t distort history..His name should be on nothing.. tjs
By Ed
February 13, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this
S.P., Dooley won 6 championships, played for a bunch more, had an undefeated, untied season in ‘80 (and yes, was awarded a mythical NC, whatever that is worth), and played for another mythical title in ‘76. The year after Herschel left, he guided the Dawgs to a 10-1-1 season and a win over previously undefeated Texas in the ‘84 Cotton Bowl.
It took one of Auburn’s best teams (led by Bo Jackson) to deny Georgia a 4th straight SEC title that year. He also beat the Gators like red-headed stepchildren. Georgia was in bad shape when he took over in ‘64. The guy could coach. At all times he handled himself with class and dignity. How soon some forget.
By Hunk Erdown
February 13, 2008 11:41 AM | Link to this
Altamaha
The best thing that could happen at this point is for Coach Dooley to show the grace that he has been known for and come out publicly with a statement basically saying that he feels that the stadium and field names should always remain what they are today, and never be added to or changed. He could also talk about what a great honor it is to have bestowed upon him that the Athletic Complex and Garden Park will be named after him creating an unparalled tribute and that he feels so unworthy, blah, blah, blah. That is about the only way that I can see this thing coming to a peaceful resolution. I just can’t understand that people like Buck Belue and others who should be knowledgeable about it don’t even seem to realize that all of the noteworthy hardware, trophies, and relevent memorabilia are right there where they are talking about building the darn thing. I mean, what could be more appropiate? If someone wanted to visit the history of UGA football they don’t go to the football field, they go to Butts- Mehre… next door to the proposed tribute area. The football field and stadium will stir up memories for you, but if you want to see the goods, you have to go to the Athletic Complex. The only real difference in what has been proposed that could be at all better is to have a second statue at gate 2, I guess. The real mystery here is that all these people are posting their suggestions and opinions about what they want done and there is no chance that its gonna happen. So,as you and I have already relayed, the only thing anyone is accomplishing is to sully up the day for Coach Dooley and belittling what should be a celebration. Ironically, He’s probably the only one that will be able to put a stop to it, by coming out with a public statement saying how wonderful this is and how much better and satisfying this is compared to just having his name added to the shingle… Unreal…
These clowns probably won’t even stop with that… because as I said earlier, the real problem is that Adams “got his way” and no matter what great things are done for Coach Dooley we just can’t allow Adams to get his way without a fight, even if the alternative is 100 times better, and the fight destroys the feeling of tribute and honor for Coach Dooley.
Face it folks, the Stadium and Field names are NOT going to change for anyone, Dooley or Richt or whoever else follows, so how about let’s try to accomplish something good out of this and get to the job of finally honoring the man that helped so much to get us where we are today. Can’t you see how destructive all this infighting, bickering, and complaining is to Coach Dooley? Let the Good Lord take care of seeing to Michael Adams’ payback for his past, and watch Coach Dooley receive the greatest the greatest and most unique tribute ever bestowed on a College Head Coach, not some copycat thing that was fashionable 30 years ago. When Vince is dead and gone, his family, friends, and fans will have a nice place to go and remember him, anytime, not just when the announcer calls out the compounded names that that make up the name of the field that he spent half his career on… but a place that takes in the whole of what he accomplished and made up who he was.
By Hunk Erdown
February 13, 2008 11:50 AM | Link to this
One more post on the subject, then I’m done with it. If you really want to do something for the great Coaches of UGA history… at the stadium; Start with Wally Butts’ statue, followed by one of Erk Russell, then Vince Dooley, and after CMR retires, one of him… place them along the Dawg Walk with there palms outstretched, and when the players walk through they can slap palms with each of the great ones on their way into the stadium. That will give what’s his name? the sculpter something to do for the next several years.
By Dave In Tampa
February 13, 2008 12:05 PM | Link to this
I say lets erect a statue for Adams as well. This time have Adams on the ground while UGA is taking a leak on him. Adams is a joke to the University.
Dooley deserves to have the field named after him and a statue in front of the stadium. Do what the Braves do and install several statues of Dooley and the great players of the past; Herschel, Pollack, Trippi just to name a few.
Just an idea
By GT
February 13, 2008 12:16 PM | Link to this
Somebody did something right at Georgia and I don’t think it was Adams. Anywhere on this planet the dawgs means Georgia. You can’t buy that kind of publicity. You have a few places like that but not very many. It is almost a religious experience to sit in that stadium in Athens and this from a Tech fan, Lord knows how a Georgia fan must feel. Richt wouldn’t have looked twice at any other college, besides Georgia and is at Georgia because of the reputation built up by Vince Dooley. I use to hate the guy with the best of em, but you can’t deny the truth, something positive happened in Athens when he was there and like magic it is still there. What makes college football part of America is the tradition no other institution can compare too. Vince Dooley is part of that and a hundred years from now deserves to be remembered.
By AltamahaDawg
February 13, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this
Hunk Erdown, has the market in your area started to pick up? it seems the media has finally stopped preaching gloom and actually said it might start to be the time now. Speaking of which: I dont really think that the general public outside of this blog, which quite frankly gets stired up at the drop of a hat (or the right name) will feel this isnt a very fine tribute. It seems to me that a lot of the controversy was created. Bill King’s post was horrible, wreckless, and I think he owes the coach an apology. Just my opinion.
I know Chip will say this one was simply reporting the story, but it sure did feel like the whole topic started out as “here is what a couple of former players said and any good dawg aught to feel this way, so lets have at it boys”
As far as Dooley stepping in and saying something. I dont know. He prabably will focus on accepting the honor and leave the other stuff alone. My guess is like a lot of stuff, as soon as everyione gets thier vent out, it will be a non-issue. I doubt his assurances that he doesnt think about the stadium, would stop the te-totaler hate anyways.
The time to have handled it better was back at his retirement. From my viewpoint, he should have handled the whole thing differently himself. (folks save me the tired old, what a tool Adams was, I get that). That was, by far, the stupiest handling by a president in the history of PR. But He KNEW Adams wasnt going to accept his SECOND extention. He was the one that set that initial retirement date (much to the agreement of a hell of a lot more folks than anyone wants to admit) and got one extention. Had he simply stuck to it, after Adams made it clear behind closed doors, that he wasnt doing it again, rather than going public, he would have saved an awful lot of hurt feelings. I’m not saying he intended any uproar, but I do think it was a surprise to him, how ugly it got, and given the chance to do it all over again, I think he would have just taken the gold watch and smiled.
By old ga dog
February 13, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this
Why don’t we built the new indoor football field and name that after Coach Dooley.
By Hunk Erdown
February 13, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this
Altamaha
The market here is terrible and don’t look like it will turn the corner to me for another year.
I agree with you on what Bill King said and blistered him pretty good for it. Also, no the media hasn’t helped either. Take their poll question for instance: “Should they name the stadium after him?” The choices for answers were 1) yes, he deserves it. 2) No, he’s not worthy. or 3) partially, like Sanford-Dooley.
There are a lot of people, maybe even a majority that feels like you and I that no they shouldn’t name the stadium after him, but not because he don’t deserve it. They shape their question and possible answers so that the most logical one isn’t even included. Same thing that the liberal media does in political polls, it stinks. Now when they tally up the answers about the stadium name it won’t be a true test of what people think because they shut so many out with their stupid “he’s not worthy” addition. So now it will look like everyone disagrees with Adams on the name of the stadium, except the people that don’t like Dooley. Even Adams doesn’t claim anything about worthiness, he just says that he doesn’t like tacking up a bunch of names with hyphens. Just trying to keep the pot stirred up, I guess.
By Johnny Danger Dawg
February 13, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this
Chip Towers,
Has anyone asked Adams point-blank, “Why don’t you put the statue right outside of the stadium by Gate 2?”
By ClassicCityDawg
February 13, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this
Coach Dooley is the most important figure in the history of the most important sport at the University of Georgia. Any tribute to Coach Dooley needs to be centered around football.
By Hunk Erdown
February 13, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this
I feel especially good about my opinion now that I see Terrence Moore is in disagreement with me, lol.
By austindog
February 13, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this
The stadium is Sanford. The field is “Between the Hedges.”
By scooter11
February 13, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this
I’m hearing that this was dictated by the political powers in Atlanta, and is not driven by Adams, Dooley, Evans or anybody at the University.
By mrprozach
February 13, 2008 12:53 PM | Link to this
I don’t know how other Dawgs would feel about this, but how about putting the statue at gate 2 and renaming Sanford drive that runs in front of the stadium into Dooley drive. Coach Dooley definitely deserves a better honor, but the field already has a hallowed name. “Between The Hedges”
By harry
February 13, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this
It is OK with me to erect a statue as long as it depicts Dooley with his hand out.
By austindog
February 13, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this
How can you say Adams has no respect for Georgia football tradition because he WON’T change the stadium name.
The next 50 years will bring a slew of Georgia football heros and great coaches. Where are their names going to go? Develop the Butts-Mehre museum. And change THAT horrible name.
By ron
February 13, 2008 1:12 PM | Link to this
I’m not an alumnus but I am a Georgia fan and have been for over 40 years. And I’m one of those folks who don’t think you can do enough to honor Coach Dooley for all he’s done for UGA - regardless of his won-lost record. I’m perplexed as to why it’s okay to put a bulldog statute inside the stadium and the powers that be appear hellbent on denying anything to do with the Coach anywhere near the damn place.
By michaelgee
February 13, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this
Vince Dooley has devoted his life to UGA, Michael Adams is just wrong to not honor this man. The snubbing by Adams just clarifies what a small minded person Michael Adams actually is. Vince Dooley has never done anything but uphold UGA to it’s highest standards and show uGA is the most positive light. In 1967 Coach Dooley drove his personal Oldsmobile to my hometown to speak at out High School football banquet, my Dad was the President of the “C” Club and personally invited Coach Dooley to visit before the banquet. Coach Dooley stayed in our home overnight and I was able to meet him and spend time getting to know a young Vince Dooley. Over the years my Dad and Coach Dooley remained as friends until my Dad died. Vince Dooley is one of the greatest Americans I have ever met. Through this personal aquAintance I was able to meet and get to know personally many of the UGA Coaching staff. Erk Russell and John Donaldson were also some of my favorite people. Mr Adams, it is a travesty that you are failing the UGA legacy by allowing your personal agenda to alter UGA history. A history that was cast long before your arrival. Vince Dooley is UGA athletics, period.
By Frank
February 13, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this
I have been a fan of the Bulldogs for over 50 years always ready to give the coaches the benefit of any doubts about their coaching ability. Coach Richt is the only head football coach that I have really admired both as a coach and a man. I always felt that coach Dooley was a good coach, but not a great coach, probably a better athletic director. I feel that the tribute being planned for him is appropriate and justified. That said I will never forget that Dooley was the person that pulled the basketball team out of the SEC and the NCAA tourneys. I will always feel that that was done in an attempt to raise opposition to Adams. The statement that this would lessen any penalties that Georgia might receive was so much crap. I still feel so sad for those players that had worked so hard for so many years to have their chance in post season play taken away from them in that manner.
By dawgman
February 13, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this
Michael Adams is probably hoping that the stadium will be renamed for him one day, which is why he wants some minor workout facility to be named after Vince Dooley, one of the greatest coaches in football history. Adams is the worst president in Georgia history—-he’s been a total bust.
By J. Kenneth Davidson, Sr.
February 13, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this
It does not take a rocket scientist to figure out why Adams did not get the Ohio State job. Who needs a fourth rate President at a big time university? Georgia will be stuck with this clown until he retires.
By 59bulldawg
February 13, 2008 1:48 PM | Link to this
Thanks, GT. You’re the kind of rival I enjoy I blogging with. Thanks for the kind words about Coach Dooley. If we ever meet lunch at the Varsity is on me!
By DrP
February 13, 2008 1:52 PM | Link to this
The Stadium should be named for Coach Dooley! As a coach and AD, he did more for this University than any other one person. The statue should be at the stadium where everyone can enjoy it for each home game-plain and simple. I contribute for my season tickets but would not consider giving any money to the University because of Adams and his treatment of Coach Dooley. Coach Dooley is a fine gentleman, something Mr. Adams would NEVER understand. Get rid of Adams and make all the alumnae of UGA happy!
By Derek B.
February 13, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this
It’s already been said a thousand times…but once more won’t hurt.
I donate to the William Hartman Fund in order to receive football tickets, but any other solicitation, whether written or oral, is rejected with the comment “not until Adams is gone”. When is that going to sink in to the Regents? Think of how much quicker they would have fulfilled the Capital Campaign if it wasn’t for the actions and words of this elitist, pretentious bow-tie-wearing as*-clown!
BTW - Terence Moore is a racist jackas*!
By JaxDawg
February 13, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this
Hey Mike! There’s a job opening at Clinton HQ. Call 1-800-HELLERY. Don’t delay. Call today.
By JaxDawg
February 13, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this
Hey Mike, There’s a job opening at Clinton HQ. Call 1-800-HELLERY. Don’t delay. Call today. I’ll hold the door for you.
By Pitbull
February 13, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this
Can’t the UGA Athletic Association do anything without the AJC turning it into a controversy to increase its readership and generate additional advertising revenue?
The AJC shamelessly pimps out UGA and GT for money the way a social deviant would pimp out his own daughters for cash.
By Holiday Brown
February 13, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this
When I started at UGA, Dooley had just named his successor. That guy didn’t do too well, neither did the next guy. Now we have Richt. Dooley’s supporters should be happy with the proposed renamings. But not the Stadium. I could see a statue maybe on the other side the tracks but not at Gate 2.
By Ed
February 13, 2008 2:49 PM | Link to this
Great points made by GT. I would add that Georgia is a big-time program because of Dooley and Butts. Those who point to the three years that Herschel was there forget how good the Dawgs were the year after Herschel left, or that they played for the NC in ‘76, or that Dooley regularly beat Florida and Georgia Tech and played Auburn about even (Dooley’s era includes Auburn’s dominating run in the 80s).
There were some down years, but he had only one losing season in 25 years and had signature wins over Alabama, Michigan, Notre Dame and Texas while each of those programs were on top. Georgia became a national program under his watch (for those that don’t think so, recall Jimmy Johnson’s “How Bout Them Cowboys!” cheer).
Finally, he turned down the Auburn HC/AD job in ‘80 to stay at UGA. It was his alma mater and they were offering big bucks for the time. Dooley deserves the highest honor the university can give him.
By mdaniel
February 13, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this
The stadium should not be named for the former coach, unless of course he wants to donate about $5 million dollars. Stadiums are named for donors, not coaches. In addition, who is to say that Coach Richt won’t end up having more success than coach Dooly before he leaves, then it would have to be renamed.
By reserviorDAWG
February 13, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this
Jordan-Hare Stadium, Doak-Walker Stadium, Neyland Stadium. Not named for coaches?
By UT96
February 13, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this
As Tennessee fan, I can tell you there is no finer person that has ever represented UGA than Vince Dooley. When I think of Georgia, I think of Larry Munson, Hershel Walker, and Vince Dooley. Anyhow, Coach Dooely deserves to have his name on Sanford stadium and whatever other accolades are directed his way.
By reserviorDAWG
February 13, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this
Jordan-Hare Stadium, Doak-Walker Stadium, Neyland Stadium. Not named for coaches?
By reserviorDAWG
February 13, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this
Jordan-Hare Stadium, Doak-Walker Stadium, Neyland Stadium. Not named for coaches?
By Gypsy Dawg (nuthin' but ribs and D***)
February 13, 2008 3:58 PM | Link to this
I say Munson Field at Dooley-Sanford Stadium. I grew up in Athens and actually graduated from Georgia. I didn’t realize just what a GREAT Coach Vince was until I was about 6 yrs old. Then at 10 I realized that to all us fans, Munson was just as integral a part of enjoying the game as Coach was. I say honor them both.
By Gypsy Dawg (nuthin' but ribs and D***)
February 13, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this
I say Munson Field at Dooley-Sanford Stadium. I grew up in Athens and actually graduated from Georgia. I didn’t realize just what a GREAT Coach Vince was until I was about 6 yrs old. Then at 10 I realized that to all us fans, Munson was just as integral a part of enjoying the game as Coach was. I say honor them both.
By Georgia Alum
February 13, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this
Keep Sandford Stadium as is… but change Sanford Drive to DOOLY DRIVE and the bridge looking into the stadium would be DOOLEY BRIDGE. Problem solved!
Put the statue near gate 2. Sanford Stadium’s address could even be 1980 Dooley Drive, Athens, Georgia. Woof.
By Georgia Alum
February 13, 2008 4:56 PM | Link to this
Keep Sandford Stadium as is… but change Sanford Drive to DOOLY DRIVE and the bridge looking into the stadium would be DOOLEY BRIDGE. Problem solved!
Put the statue near gate 2. Sanford Stadium’s address could even be 1980 Dooley Drive, Athens, Georgia. Woof.
By Warren
February 13, 2008 5:12 PM | Link to this
Dooley was and continues to be a great asset to the University. But, he is one of many. I think we would run out of buildings, etc if we start this practice.
By Dawgstheman
February 13, 2008 5:18 PM | Link to this
I will not give a dime to UGA until adams is gone. I used to donate thousands per year to various academic programs—-but I can’t tolerate the elitist fool michael adams. I hope he gets fired soon for incompetence.
By Jimmy
February 13, 2008 5:41 PM | Link to this
You dumb Georgia rednecks. Dooley is getting an area of the school named after him. What more do you want?? More importantly, to real college football fans, there is one story that has not been talked about that really changes the game we all love
The decision makers of the NCAA have decided to go back to the rules they had 2 years ago, regarding the play clock. They now have a 40 second play clock that will start at the end of each play. Where in the past the 25 second play clock would stop after any play other than a running play in bounds. What this does is take about 10 plays away from each team per game. They did this because games were going on too long. This rule was implemented by the TV networks who’s games were running past their timeslots. Instead of cutting down commercial time outs, they decided to do shorten the games by taking away plays. WHAT KIND OF GARBAGE IS THIS?! ARE THERE ANY FANS OUT THERE WHO SAY, “GEE, THAT GAME WENT WAY TOO LONG FOR MY LIKING.” Hell no, those morons are robbing us of the game we love, all because of television. For the lack of a better vocabulary, this freaking sucks!!!!
By Travis Hill
February 13, 2008 7:50 PM | Link to this
Hey S.P.
I guess you are afraid of putting your real name on here…ha ha How did Mike Adam’s sausage taste last night big boy?
Kennesaw State? Where the hell did that come from? I don’t think I would diss them just because you went to UGA , I love UGA, but I’m sure Kennesaw State is a good school too. I did not go there by the way…ha ha
Mike Adams is a royal a*!!!!!! If you want to puff is pickle then go right ahead S.P. Micheal Adams legacy at Georgia will not be a good one….that is why he is grasping anything he can to get the football fans back on his side…. (playoffs for college football, Vince Dooley Athletic Complex)….We fans are not going to buy what this prick is selling….he is a jack a*….
Nough said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By uga95
February 13, 2008 9:10 PM | Link to this
I personally can’t believe all the interest in this topic. Who cares??? Dooley is being honored by naming the complex after him and erecting a statue of him!! How many people on these blogs have athletics complexes named after them and statues of them erected??? Its a big honor to him, so relax people.
I would be much more in favor of changing the stadium name to Sanford- Walker stadium!!! Lets not kid ourselves people…Herschel is the man that made all the Dawg fans dreams come true!!!
By guy
February 13, 2008 9:11 PM | Link to this
Vince Dooley has done more for UGA than Michael Adams will ever do.Don’t let the tail wag the Dawg!
By P Dawg
February 13, 2008 9:56 PM | Link to this
Let’s just settle it once and for all. Dooley Field at Sanford Stadium! That’s all folks.
By the way, did Adams go to OSU? Why else would he be interviewing with them?
By T-bone
February 13, 2008 10:48 PM | Link to this
I’ve said it for years….Michael Adams CANNOT co-exist with a big time sports program. He cannot stand playing second fiddle. His ego is too big. I don’t know if it’s legal or not, but I wish we would fly a plane over the stadium every football Saturday that reads….”Fire Michael Adams”. The only people in Athens that like him are some of the sissy Home Ec. professors. One more thing…watching and hearing Pres Adams “call the Dawgs” in a pep rally makes me want to puke.
By Orangeblood
February 13, 2008 11:30 PM | Link to this
T couldn’t be a Tennessee Vol. Don’t know anything about Adams but can’t brag about some of the presidents UT has had in the past decade. Dooley’s teams always played well againt the Vols. SEC footbal fans have to respect good coaches, especially when the coaches can beat their schools at least half the time, win SEC championships, go to major bowls, etc. Mark Richt also fills the bill.
By St. Gaudens
February 14, 2008 7:45 AM | Link to this
After seeing what the statue looks like, I suggest those concerned look for a new sculptor. It is a terrible rendition. Vince needs to tell them to start over. It stinks. Surely they can scrape up enough money to do better than that. No wonder they don’t want to put it by the stadium.
By AltamahaDawg
February 14, 2008 8:17 AM | Link to this
Ok even of this crap, lets talk about something important ……. Spring practice start in a couple of weeks!
I imagine ol’ Buck is looking down betting on how many true freshman will play this year. I’m going with my usual 5/6.
By shane #1
February 14, 2008 9:02 AM | Link to this
alt,you may be right,i can see jones,green,and d jackson making the depth chart right away,if jackson’s wrist heals with no problems.king may be in the mix,he has game breaking speed,i think it will depend on down field blocking as to him or green getting playing time.remember that hill and troupe are coming off red-shirt and goodman is healthy for a change.there will be a real battle to start opposite mo-mass!i look for thomas to contribute,he is the warrick dunn type back that richt has looked for the past seven years.richt has been blessed with power runners like brown,lump,and moreno,but thomas has the speed and moves to take it to the house on any play.i see him as a”special situations”back ala reggie bush,not an every down back like king or moreno.our d is pretty well set,i think the recruits on that side of the ball will be red shirted.i can seen 18 red shirts out of this class.we will lose only six seniors on both sides of the ball that had much playing time and we have 14 guys coming off red shirt.i don’t see many slots open.i think hebron will be in the mix at lb,but i don’t consider him a true freshman.
By Coastal Georgia
February 14, 2008 10:05 AM | Link to this
The stadium is named. The buildings on South Campus are named. Let’s give the field a name, Dooley Field.
By Ken
February 14, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this
Dooley was an average coach at best. Without Herschel, we probably wouldn’t have won the SEC in 1980, 1981, and 1982. They didn’t win in 1983, after HW left. Do you seriously think we could have won a NC without Herschel? That means that without HW, Dooley would have won only 3 SEC crowns in 25 years. That’s a great coach? As AD, Dooley wanted to give Donnan one more year to see if he made substantial improvement. Without Adam’s interference, we might not even have Richt as our coach today. Time will tell if VD or MR is the better coach, but in my opinion, Richt is better.
By Jimmy
February 14, 2008 5:12 PM | Link to this
Ken, by your logic Phil Jackson was not a good coach because he had Michael Jordan, Shaquile O’Neal and Kobe Bryant all of those years. True, great players make a coach look better, but the same could be said about a good coach making an athlete look better. Herschel didnt seem to have too much success sans Dooley, now did he??
By War Eagle
February 14, 2008 9:54 PM | Link to this
Auburn made Pat Dye name part of Jordan-Hare Stadium, naming Pat Dye Field. He had 99 wins and 4 SEC champions and almost one NC. Coach Dooley won a National championship,plus more SEC titles, what is really the problem? My opinion is everyone is waiting that destiny for CMR. It would be like rolling dice to wait for a Coach Richt to win NC.Maybe it will happen, not saying it want, but Coach Dooley HAS made his mark.
By alan aka red/black
February 14, 2008 10:41 PM | Link to this
hey they started a fire ron zook web site-i say we start a fire adam web site.im tired of all the stress he reaps upon dooley.we’ll kick off the fire adam campain by burning an effigy with a likeness of adams.ken- lindsay scott and buck belue sealed the win over uf giving us the shot at the nc,herschel was only the icing on the cake.go dawgs.
By douchebag larry
February 14, 2008 11:15 PM | Link to this
Simple solution Adams/Dooley wear tighty whities for 1 week without wiping Babara Dooley and Jan Kemp are blinded and must smell and identify whose smelly underwear is the most righteous 4 fun david pollock will fart gospel songs while greasing his halo
By Hunk Erdown
February 15, 2008 6:53 AM | Link to this
WarEagle
Why is naming the field after Dooley better than having an entire Athletic Complex named after him? Plus a very nice Garden Area with a statue and the two Walls of Honor. Does Pat or Shugg have a campus park in their honor? Why is it important that we follow some act that Auburn did years ago, instead of a new and unique tribute? Its not that I feel that we need to save the field naming for Richt, not at all. The field has carried the moniker of “between the hedges” for a long time, its more than just a description of the landscape. I feel that it needs to stay that way and not be named for Dooley, Richt or anyone. That is what Adams has said his reason for not naming the stadium or field after anyone… Its not about depriving Dooley, or even saving it for Richt, or anyone else. It is that it shouldn’t be named for any additional people. He is also concerned, as am I, that if we name it after Dooley that that will set a precedent that we would feel obligated to add future peoples’ names to it. I don’t think it was necessarily a bad thing for Auburn and other schools to hyphenate the name of the stadium and/or field to honor someone, but why do folks think that is the standard by which every school should go by? If I were Doug Barfield I would much rather have a park, with a statue and a wall with my records engraved… something done especially for me and something that would not be diluted with the memory of whoever happened to follow along after me. Adding a hyphen and the latest popular coach’s name is a practice that was especially popular 40 years ago.
These days, green space is a big deal to the public and having a green space set aside on the campus for people to go and lounge, have lunch, or just sit and reflect is not only popular, but healthy. Being able to do that and honor Coach Dooley’s memory is especially honorable, and IMO, 100 times better than just having his name added to the name of somehing that has already been named something else. In Atlanta several years ago they started adding the name of folks like Hosea Williams to the names of streets previously named for Confederate generals, etc. After a while they completely did away with the Generals’ names and just left the civil rights leaders’ names. I don’t want to know that 50 years from now some place called Sanford-Dooley has evolved into someone elses name that is not even a grown man yet.
By Hunk Erdown
February 15, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this
One thing that truly amazes and completely frustrates me is that people who claim to adore Coach Dooley insist on effectively limiting his legacy to football. Adams wasn’t even here for any of Coach Dooley’s days as the Head football coach, but worked with him as the Athletic Director for around 7 years. It is understandable that Adams’ focus on Vince Dooley would be from the perspective as Dooley the A.D. ore than as that of Dooley the Head Coach. If you are going to honor someone’s career why would you focus the tribute on the minor part of that person’s resume? Dooley spent the majority of his time at UGA as the A.D. where he also enjoyed the greater success? As A.D. Dooley had 21 National Championships, as Football Coach he had one. As Athletic Director, Dooley won around 65 SEC Championships in 12 different sports. But the people who claim to love and “really know” Dooley want to relegate his tribute to only Football and limit his recognition to naming a football field after or sharing the name of the stadium. By naming the entire Athletic Complex after him, you are recognizing him for all of his athletic accomplishments, including fotball.
The truth is, President Adams is trying to do more for Dooley than all of you clowns like Bill King and Buck Belue who want to limit the scope of Dooley’s contributions to just Football. A slap in the face? A disgrace? That is absolutely stupid. Then they want to come back and say, “Well then, they should give him both… Athletic complex and football field.” The Atletic Director is over the football operation. The Athletic Complex is in charge of the Football Field even though the actual stadium is not in the exact same location as the rest of the Atletic Complex. Why not name the Tennis Courts after Dooley, the Tennis Teams had 21 SEC Championships and eight National Championships under Dooley’s reign. It just doesn’t make sense to accentuate Football with the majority of acclaim when there was only one National Championship in football and 21 in other sports. Sure, I understand that Dooley was the football coach when the National Championship was won in football, but the job of Atheletic Director was a promotion and required much more responsilblity, it only makes sense that the greater weight when considering which he deserves more honor for would be the one where he served more successfully and had the greatest responsibility. For those who would want to put Dooley in the same ballpark as Paul Bryant or Pat Dye, Dooley’s record as A.D. is what puts him in a better class than Bryant or Dye. This tribute to Vince Dooley is a much higher honor than Bryant’s or Dye’s, which recognized their accomplishments in football, so please stop trying to bring him down to that level with all the dissention.
By Jimmy
February 15, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this
Ummm, I know we’re still a few weeks from Spring practice, but when can we start talking foozball again? This hoops and Dooley talk is boring.
By St. Bernard
February 15, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this
GIVE ME SOME SPRING PRACTICE UPDATES!!!!!!
By AltamahaDawg
February 15, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this
sorry shane, I lost your responce in the black cloud of hate. Good lord if you folks have that much hatred for a man that you have never met over a situation that AT BEST is only a glancing part of your world, I’m beting your Gastro-Int. doctor has a standing appointment for you. I’m betting your own families dont recieve this much passionate attention.
shane thanks, good stuff. So you got 3 prabable True Frosh and a couple more depending on health? I’m always in the 5 or so camp. Don’t forget about the kicker. If you want to get pumped up, go revisit a couple of guys from last year that RS.
By Dave (Charlotte, NC)
February 15, 2008 4:48 PM | Link to this
The problems I have with Michael Adams extend beyond his dislike for Vince Dooley. It’s not just the alums and football fans he’s alienated; in my time there as a graduate student Adams received a “no confidence” vote from the Faculty Senate (that’s the people who TEACH, S.P.) and is only there because the Regents love him for some reason. He’s never had to answer for the funds misappropriation scandals.
In my opinion you HAVE to name the stadium or the field after Vince Dooley, but think of it this way: What if you renamed Sanford Drive Dooley Drive and renamed that wonderful bridge Dooley Bridge?
By AltamahaDawg
February 15, 2008 5:03 PM | Link to this
or even an entire athletic complex?
By AltamahaDawg
February 15, 2008 5:08 PM | Link to this
“Nowhere can you find a better college football facilty than Butts-Mehre Heritage Hall, an 85,000 square foot complex which serves as the every day home of the Georgia Bulldogs. Named after two of Georgia’s most famous football coaches, Wallace Butts and Harry Mehre, and completed in 1987 at a cost of more than $12 million, this facility is unsurpassed anywhere in the United States.”
“It also houses the Larry Munson Trophy Room, a display featuring awards and trophies Georgia football has gathered through the years. “
“the area serves as the Georgia Bulldog Hall of Fame.”
“Probably the most exciting aspect to the average fan is this space. Here, in the rotunda under the domed roof, are many exhibits and memorabilia tracing the long and proud heritage of all Georgia’s athletic programs. In addition, recently upgraded touch-screen displays containing video highlights of Georgia’s football history offer the chance to relive great Bulldog moments.”
“As home to Georgia’s athletic offices, Butts-Mehre Heritage Hall stands as a monument to the longstanding Georgia Bulldog Athletic Tradition.”
By shane #1
February 15, 2008 5:33 PM | Link to this
alt.i hadn’t considered the kicker,my bad.i was thinking about football players,not kickers and qbs and such.boy ol’ buck would have jumped my case about that one!btw,my lady friend’s brother is a retired coach and ad in south fl.he says thomas is the real deal,having seen the kid play in person.like i said,thomas may get some pt,but he is rather small,and richt wants his tbs to block.alt,you may be right,counting thomas and the kicker.ther could be five easy.hey war eagle,pat dye field at jordan-hare stadium?that sounds about right for the plainsmenwareagletigers.ya’ll have more personalities than herschel!i am not commenting anymore about honoring coach dooley,hunk says it better than i.the man is recieving a great honor,let’s shut up and let him enjoy it.
By AltamahaDawg
February 15, 2008 6:17 PM | Link to this
Amen brother, let the man enjoy it.
On an unrelated topic, UGA President Adams announced today that he thought the sky looked blue, followed by adament protest that it indeed cannot ever appear to be blue.
By shane #1
February 15, 2008 6:57 PM | Link to this
alt,i can beat that,roger the rocket said tonight will be dark.congress is calling for a hearing to investigate!
By Lane tucker
February 15, 2008 11:16 PM | Link to this
How about Vince Dooley - jan Kemp Stadium?
Didn’t Dooley hire Ray Goff and Jim Donnen?
By ............................................BuLLdawg
February 16, 2008 3:40 AM | Link to this
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Yeah, I’m particulary on Michael F. Adam$’ side. I know that everyone thinks that the HOPE Scholarship is why UGA has improved academically, but it really is because of our tiny dictator, whom everyone instead loves to hate. In 2005, after Vince Dooley had been the No. 1 Athletics Department in the SEC 3 of the then previous 6 years running in the Directors’ Cup, Michael F. Adam$ made Vince Dooley a consultant for the University of Georgia for his 41st year. And, then he offered him nothing for 41 years of service to UGA. And now 3 years later he finally offers Vince an honor of putting a bronze statue up of him and 2 players, both of whom hate Michael F. Adam$’ pompous butt, not 1 mile but 2 miles from the stadium.
Vince Dooley has been quite the gentleman about it through it all.
Enrollment : 33,959.
Average GPA of the 4,000 Freshmen Enrollment of 3.77 GPA and average SAT of 1242.
No. 21 in U.S. News and World Report’s Rankings of the top public universities in the nation.
By ............................................BuLLdawg
February 16, 2008 3:42 AM | Link to this
8 NCAA Top 8 Award Winners since 1984, the most in the nation.
NACDA DIRECTORS’ CUP RANKINGS NATIONALLY :
No. 12 - 2007
No. 9 - 2006
No. 7 - 2005
No. 5 - 2004
No. 15 - 2003
No. 8 - 2002
No. 3 - 2001
No. 12 - 2000
No. 2 - 1999
No. 8 - 1998
None of any of this has anything to do with contributions by Michael F. Adam$ to UGA, and that is the nicest words I can offer up about a man the entire Bulldog nation will jump with glee to hear that he will not be retained.
Let him go back to Centre College in Kentucky, whatever the hell that is.
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By ............................................BuLLdawg
February 16, 2008 4:21 AM | Link to this
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And, let me be clear about this.
If you are on Adam$’ side to not name something at the crown jewel on campus for Vincent Joseph Dooley, and want to support Adam$’ side to this controversy Adam$ caused and not Vince, then you are on Adam$’ side.
Chipper Towers, let me remind you, asked that he particularly wanted to hear from these Adam$ supporters - those on Adam$’ side.
So, a football monument should be bronzed way farther than a mile from the football field.
As our coach in football, Vince served 25 years of over 71% winning percentage with 201 wins, 6 SEC Championships and three (3) National Championships 1966, 1968 and 1980 listed in the NCAA Official Records Book of College Football.
What you do, in supporting Michael F. Adam$’ side, is to in fact directly contradict every single football player in UGA football history. You do not fool me with such support of Adam$ Hunk Erdown
We have gone round and round about this for the last 3 years in here Hunk Erdown, and now here you are once again SUPPORTING ADAM$’ side again.
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By ............................................BuLLdawg
February 16, 2008 4:37 AM | Link to this
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The main reason I hate Adam$ is that he and those who support his position on this controversy started by Adam$ consider that what the HOPE Scholarship has done for Academics at UGA, instead are a direct result of just only Michael F. Adam$. When you can say this, let me know ?
Now for Hunk Erdown’s position, that of course, no one can even consider disagreeing with him on :
” Its time to realize that the stadium and field is going to stay the same as they are now. Blogging on here about “what a disgrace it is”… “a slap in Dooley’s face” is not only childish, it is wrong. It does nothing to honor Coach Dooley to bicker and complain about it, all it does is causes what should be a celebration for the Dooley family to be a controversial circus, and thats not Adams’ fault… he has finally progressed to doing something positive for Coach Dooley, its people like Bill King, Buck Belue, and you other people that I shall crown as, “Dooley’s Knights Templar” who have diluted this thing into the sham it has become. “
It sure as hell is Adam$’ fault Hunk Erdown.
And guess what ? He and you aren’t going to win.
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By shane #1
February 16, 2008 8:23 AM | Link to this
bulldog,this”war”against dr adams can stop now.while i do not like what the man has done at uga the regents are on his side,so adams isn’t going anywhere.adams has raised entrance requirements so high that many georgia students who could qualify at any other sec school,other than vandy,are forced to look elsewhere.uga is a public,state charted,land grant university,not a small private institution.my beef with adams stems from these facts and has nothing to do with football.that being said,i think this public battle with the man is wrong.we are on the verge of a”civil war”amoung the bulldog nation,and in a civil war there are no winners!we have to remember that uga has been serving the people of this great state for over 200 yrs,and she will continue to be strong long after adams is enjoying his big,fat,retirement check.just be patient my friend,and this too shall pass.
By AltamahaDawg
February 16, 2008 9:41 AM | Link to this
shane, at least you have some concern for others, student , or potential. Most of the crap i read in here……..well never mind. The only thing is, more and more student want to get in, and there is only so many spots. I dont even think Adams made some effort to raise the admission standards as much as the pool of applicant just have higher numbers and the “cut off” just sets itself at some level. I don’t think the class is shrinking any year. I am sure more and more Georgia students are not able to get in, as more try and would lowering admission standards really free up any space?
I suppose the answer is to build more building, dorms, and parking lots, but that seems to be going about as fast as it can. And goodness knows some jackazzes only see that as somebody messing with thier prescious party spot 5 saturdays a year.
By #39
February 16, 2008 11:11 AM | Link to this
Dear Vincent Dooley,
I would like to say that is speak and not think as others surely do that I will not be one of the many thousands of UGA fans who walk 2 miles and not 7 or 11 or 3.5 miles to honor your great tenure as UGA football coach and not water polo coach at the park dedicated to you and not led Zeppelin. I have never even been to that part of campus which is not where the grass is planted on which you coached and not played or plowed or counted blade by blade the game called football.
I will refuse to honor you in any way at all until such time and not that time in the past or 9 years into the future things are done exactly as I dictate. This I do you you Vincent Dooley who I have never met as I have my uncle Samuel.
I also will never give any money which I never have in the past not in US currency. I will instead sit and type run-on sentences and broken fragments until the world which we know Hunkerdown does not consider to be called Earth and all its inhabitants choose to be fans of UGA in exactly the manner in which I dictate.
Also Vince, when you see Matthew Stafford whose last name begins with an S and not a Q and does not have the same number of letters as his first name tell him I have never liked him as a QB for My University of Georgia football team.
You are welcome
Bulldawg.
By shane #1
February 16, 2008 11:29 AM | Link to this
alt,i understand that limited space is a factor,but adams insists on recruiting students from all fifty states and many other countries.i understand that these brilliant students add to the luster of uga and raise the over-all gpa but ga taxpayers children are left out.georgia has emory,mercer,and many other fine private liberal arts universities,uga was not intended to be the”harvard of the south”.enough about that,i have been comparing the current bulldogs with the 1980 championship team and would like to know what you,hunk,war eagle and others think.i my opinion this team is far superior to that great team.in sheer amount of talent i have seen no group of bulldogs to compare with this team,amazing depth at every posistion.the injury bug shouldn’t hurt too badly.belue did well,but was nowhere near stafford.herschel stands alone,but a backfield of moreno and king has the edge,slightly!we can’t forget sutherland either,maybe the best all round fullback in uga history!lindsay scott was a good wr,but again depth takes over,and green may be a monster.the o line this year is better than any i remember,though still young.at te we are very deep,chandler and figins compare well with pope and milner,ward is healthy and white is coming off redshirt,best group of tes ever!erk’s junkyard dawgs are the stuff of ledgend,but in size,speed,and again depth,they don’t even come close!imo,there has never been a corps of lbs like this one and the d line started to dominate in the second half last year.we lose howard,but wood is bigger and faster than howard.i look for big things from him.owens and atkins really stuff the run,and atkins has started to get penetration up the middle,doom for any offense.the secondary is young and we lose kelin,but our young safetys and cbs got a lot of pt and knox is coming off red-shirt.he is supposed to be a hard hitter like blue and davis.i would give old erk a big edge in coaching,but cwm is coming along,and with all this talent he doesn’t have to be as innovative.to some up,this team is twice as deep as the 1980 team,and is not a one trick pony,{herschel}.i have two questions,can bobo design the plays to best use all these weapons?there is only one ball.next,can uga overcome a very tough schedule?we have to remember that the competition is much tougher than in 1980.
By shane #1
February 16, 2008 3:02 PM | Link to this
according to the athens banner-herald southerland and wood will miss spring practice due to surgery and tripp taylor has left the team.
By Altamahadawg
February 16, 2008 3:55 PM | Link to this
Actually its about .8 miles, if facts make any difference.
By Hummm
February 16, 2008 8:05 PM | Link to this
Altamahadawg,
.8 miles, 1 mile, 2 miles it doesn’t matter to BuLLdawg. Facts don’t matter unless he can find them on Google…….
I can’t wait to see how Chip responds to him calling him Chipper again….. I thought after he neutered the BuLLdawg for calling him Chipper last week he would go - and stay - away.
By Blue Water
February 16, 2008 8:28 PM | Link to this
Like Pat Dye from Auburn, Dooley should go and shut up. He’s no more that a hang oner.
By Hunk Erdown
February 16, 2008 11:07 PM | Link to this
I don’t feel like its really necessary to spend a lot of time defending myself against bulldawg’s accusation that I have been on Adams’ side for the last three years, luckily bulldawg has done enough to destroy his credibilty without my help. Never-the-less, I am not, nor have I ever been, a member of the Communist Party (or a supporter of Michael Adams).
My main point is that if this same idea for a tribute to Vince Dooley had come from anybody but Michael Adams, people would have embraced it as maybe the greatest honor ever bestowed upon an NCAA Coach/Athletic Director. Since it came from Adams, it was doomed in the minds of a lot of folks from the beginning.
My feelings about hyphenated names for stadiums/arenas, where a building is named for one guy and then years later another guy is added to it, then another, etc., etc. is just wrong. That’s just me… and as it turns out, Adams just happens to agree. If you built a Hospital, for instance and you named the Hospital after some benfactor, that’s cool. If you add a wing to the hospital and want to name that wing after someone else, that’s cool. But it just sounds tacky to me if you just keep changing the name of the Hospital by tacking on someone elses name. In the case of Sanford Stadium… would it change my life or hurt me if they changed it to Sanford-Dooley? No, but since this is a blog that asks for discussion, that’s how I feel about it. The field has always been known as “Between the Hedges”, at least in my lifetime. You can call it “Dooley field, between the hedges, at Sanford-Dooley Stadium” and it won’t hurt me a bit, but I’ll think it sounds stupid, and if you ask me, I’ll tell you so. And if your big comeback is, “well we kinda have to, because Auburn and Alabama did it.” That is even more stupid. You would think that UGA fans would try to do everything possible to not be accused of following the leadership of Auburn and Alabama.
So I guess using your logic, bulldawg, you are on sides with Tommy Tubberville since you want us to be like Auburn. Makes as much sense as saying that I am on Adams’ side.
By DOOLEY'S DAWG
February 17, 2008 1:32 AM | Link to this
HOW COME 99.5% OF DAWG NATION WOULDN’T P** ON MICHAEL ADAM’S HEAD IF IT WAS ON FIRE, YET THIS P.O.S. REMAINS PRESIDENT OF UGA? IT’S TIME TO MAN UP AGAINST THIS BS AND WHOMEVER IS BACKING IT! JUST DO IT!
By Hunk Erdown
February 17, 2008 9:36 AM | Link to this
Its kind of ironic that the “V” in Steadman V. Sanford’s name stands for Vincent.
Dr. Sanford’s Historic Marker, at the Old Marietta Cemetary is engraved with these words: “The Greatest Friend the University of Georgia Ever Had”… What would cause someone to write such a thing on a tombstone?
If you haven’t read it, you should look up the history of Sanford Stadium. While your at it check out the history of the UGA school of Journalism, the Southern Conference (currently the Southeastern Conference), the original UGA baseball field, the George Foster Peabody Award, UGA’s Franklin College, Dawson and Joseph E. Brown Halls, a basketball facility known as Woodruff Hall… all of these were just a few of Sanford’s legacy at UGA. He was also a UGA president, and Chancellor of the University System.
His education included an undergraduate degree from Mercer, and then graduate studies at the University of Chicago, the University of Berlin, and Oxford University in England.
As great as Coach Vince Dooley is and was at UGA we should at least consider the man with whom we are advocating to “bump” over so that Vince Dooley can share the spotlight. If we are going to google the records of Coach Dooley, which is fair, I think a search of Dr. Sanford is in order, just as a courtesy. Maybe he deserves his own spotlight, and Coach Dooley deserves his own, too.
By Altamahadawg
February 17, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this
DD you lead the way, lets see your “man up” move there. No? So then that would answer your question.
By Gen Neyland
February 17, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this
Hunk Erdown
As you well know, practically every Saturday morning an odor is emitted from # 39 within these blogs. The self-professed Dr. Know-It-All throws bent wrist punches at friends of the Dawgs and foes alike, in the hopes of confrontation in print. If one so chooses to respond to the DawgofBuLL, go for it. It can be a real life stress buster to pi$$ him off…but one need not defend theirself in the wake of an attack by this mutt…His words are hamburger in a sea of steak from the general masses…and he knows it.
By Altamahadawg
February 17, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this
And just for the record, I would not stand and watch a person burn to death because he didn’t grant one of his employees an extention of thier own announced retirement date, for the second time, but thats just me.
By shane #1
February 17, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this
this blog was posted on 2-12.we have ridden this horse half to death.why don’t we wipe him down and put him in the barn?chip,if you are awake this fine sunday morning and want to waste your time reading all these posts,how about something new?what is the prognosis on sutherland and wood?will they be healed in time for fall practice?i was looking for big things out of both these guys next year.will tripp taylor’s leaving give us a much needed scholarship next year?did tripp leave because of lack of playing time,or did his arrest last summer have anything to do with it?if sutherland has problems healing chapas will be # 1 fb,with fred’s two game suspension who will be # 2?isn’t it amazing how a couple of incidents can change a posistion where you thought you had plenty of depth into one where you are short?like our o line a couple of years ago.tech is going into spring practice with only 58 scholarship athletes,the two deeps will take up 44 players,that only leaves 14 players,and some of them are long snappers,kickers,and etc.even with the 20 signees coming in they will have to play some off the two deep on the scout teams and special teams.that is asking for injury problems.johnson is up against it,does he risk injury to key players,or practice at half speed?he had better hope no one else transfers and no one flunks out or has off-field problems.
By Hunk Erdown
February 17, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this
You’re right General… and I ignored it for a while, but decided a few more posts would at least help to bury his up there ^ somewhere. I hope you’re doing well these days, this time of year is kind of like flipping the odometer back to zero for me… new baseball, spring drills, etc. It all starts over again.
By Altamahadawg
February 17, 2008 11:49 AM | Link to this
Or a blog on just how gutsy our basketball team is, despite having perhaps the worst situation in the league with number of active players. I am absolutely convince that with a couple of more players, (the ones we had would have been fine), we would have been competing at least right around second place of the EAST and better than perhaps the entire West. I cannot believe any objective mind can’t get excited about the future of those freshman playing toe to toe with All-SEC senior opponents, despite what you might think about Felton as a coach.
By DD
February 17, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this
AZZDAWD, SO YOU ARE ONE OF THE .005% WHO WOULD P** ON ADAM’S HEAD. YOU ARE A GOOD LITTLE BUTT DAWG. I’M READY TO MAN UP. MINE IS A CALL TO ARMS FOR THE 99.5% WHO DESPISE THIS SLICK WILLY. YOUR REASON FOR ADAM’S DISS OF DOOLEY TO THE RETIREMENT ISSUE IS SHALLOW. THE BS DOESN’T START OR STOP THERE. P** ON ADAMS BUT NOT IF HIS HEAD IS ON FIRE. LETS GET SOME BUMPER STICKERS AND WEB SITE. LITTLE A-DAWG CAN HIDE HIS!
By shane #1
February 17, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this
hi there general,i hope all is well at the waffle house.i may have to join you there soon.when one retires the money seems to go out a lot faster than it comes in.oh well!what happened to the great orange one in recruiting this year?was it because cutliff left,or has the great satan,i mean saban,made inroads into ut territory?i have always thought fulmer was one of the better recruiters in the sec.uf and uga recruited pretty well this year,saban seems to have hurt auburn and ut more than anyone else.i have heard that bama signed over the limit,so some will have to be gray shirted and i suppose some will be kicked off the team,according to how many qualify.
By mexdawg
February 17, 2008 6:45 PM | Link to this
mike adams doesn’t deserve to even be mentioned in the same article with VINCE DOOLEY.adams has no class.hey mike if you want to know what the GEORGIA people think of you just think back to the nice reception you recieved at the sugar bowl.i wish to hell you would go to ohio state or anywhere else.GEORGIA is a great school with great people and we sure as hell deserve someone better than you.i hate you, my father hates you and everyone else i know who went to GEORGIA can’t stand you.the only question i have is HOW IN THE HELL ARE YOU STILL HERE?i like most of the other bloggers will withold any donations to the university until you are GONE.how does it feel to be the most hated man in GEORGIA since sherman?do the right thing and leave please.remember Delta is ready when you are. one last thing PUT THE STATUE AT THE STADIUM where it belongs.
By Rob Robertson
February 17, 2008 7:31 PM | Link to this
I think most Georgia Fans would agree, VINCE DOOLEY is Georgia Football. His name should be on the stadium but until someone like Billy Payne gets gets involved it won’t happen. Come on Billy, you got the Olympics to Atlanta and Athens. Putting six more letters on the football stadium would be easy …
By War Eagle
February 17, 2008 9:05 PM | Link to this
Hunk, nice post on Dooley. Coach Dooley put UGA in the respective direction for winning as a HC and AD. Maybe you are right about the location, meaning of the statue and name. Times have changed in “meanings” as in spread offense and 3-4 defenses. I admit, I am prejudice, Coach Dooley was my position coach at Auburn, recruited my players as a high school coach and have remain friends with him and Barbara for all these years.. You made some excellent points.
By War Eagle
February 17, 2008 9:05 PM | Link to this
Hunk, nice post on Dooley. Coach Dooley put UGA in the respective direction for winning as a HC and AD. Maybe you are right about the location, meaning of the statue and name. Times have changed in “meanings” as in spread offense and 3-4 defenses. I admit, I am prejudice, Coach Dooley was my position coach at Auburn, recruited my players as a high school coach and have remain friends with him and Barbara for all these years.. You made some excellent points.
By War Eagle
February 17, 2008 9:12 PM | Link to this
Hunk, you made some very good points about Dooley and stadium. His coaching wins and AD leadership was impressive for a SEC school. I admit being prejudice in my posts about the situation. Coach Dooley was my position coach at Auburn, recruited my athletes as a high school coach and I remain friends with him and Barbara all these years.
By Altamahadawg
February 17, 2008 9:26 PM | Link to this
DD, there is a difference between a man of action and wind bag. Bumper stickers huh, woo hooo.
And you are so absolutely full of crap to think that the portrayal of Adams in here has anything to do with a single event beside the retirement of Dooley. Nobody gives a rat’s fuzzy behind about the other stuff, its all just justification and noise. You could list the entirety of complaints (other than the Dooley issue) and it wouldn’t make a hill of beans, and without the Dooley situation, nobody would have give a damn. You folks that have to have complete hate of Adams from every person, or somehow that person is “on his side”. paleezzz, you want to talk about shallow? Personally I just don’t have the time or need to sit around and figure out how (and why) I can hate somebody everyday on everything he says or does. When I disagree with him on an issue, I disagree, when I happen to agree with him, I am confident enough in my self worth, and Bulldawg fandom, to “man up” and say it. You little twerp wouldn’t agree with him if he sainted your mother. You asked why he is still there, I told you, its because folks like you can’t rally any support. Mostly because its all just hot air and your entire cause is purely emotional and not based on anything tangible.
You dont like Adams great, he is not very likeble, but don’t “pretend” you are going to do something about it and then get your feeling hurt when somebody points out the reality of just how little your opinion matters about it.
Now just come on back with your little homophobic insult in your all cap letters there sport.
By Altamahadawg
February 17, 2008 10:06 PM | Link to this
mexdawg you say Adams shouldn’t be in the same article as Dooley, so why then do some INSIST on doing so. This isnt the Adams project, it is the Dooley tribute. You are the one guilty of bringing Adams into the picture. It’s a shame folks who profess to Love and admire the man, try to ruin it for him.
BTW, that take on Lewis Grizzard might hit a bit harder is the man wasnt born in Alabama and grew up in Georgia.
By Gen Neyland
February 17, 2008 11:03 PM | Link to this
shane # 1
With UT pulling hard at the off season start to win the Fulmer Cup, I’m in a mode of disgust. With punter Colquitt, age 22, becoming the latest in a series of idiot moves, I’m left wondering how these student-athletes will ever be able to pay my SSI benefits…Recruiting..? fergit aboudit…We’ll have to go with whatever players we can get out on work detail in the name of Big Orange Football…or will the cheer become, Go Big House Orange…
By DOOLEY'S DAWG
February 17, 2008 11:58 PM | Link to this
azzdawg, you are adam’s butt dawg sport. democracy dictates that the majority rules. therefore you need to back down or in your case bend over. don’t tell a true dawg how to feel. a high school diploma doesn’t make you a dawg boy. with your dissing of the bumper sticker and web site, they would likely be a huge success. you are a great legend in your own mind. Dooley is a legend period.
By Hunk Erdown
February 18, 2008 2:01 AM | Link to this
Thanks War Eagle
I appreciate the kind words and especially respect a man who will at least consider another man’s point of view. This whole thing could have been handled much better by Evans and Adams.
First of all, it would have been best if Adams had not had anything, publicly, to do with it.
Second, they could have used the approach of reminding people who Steadman V. Sanford is and his contributions to the University as a foundation for not wanting the contributions of either man, Dooley or Sanford, to be diluted by sharing something that had been a singular tribute to Sanford all these years. Therefore, they felt like both men had been so important to UGA that it was only fitting to give them both their own places of honor. That would have gone over a lot better than just saying we don’t like hyphens.
I believe that when people see how nice the site for Coach Dooley is they will grow to appreciate it. Also, it is obvious with all the comments about how far away from everything Dooley’s Park and the Athletic Complex is that folks are not experiencing one of the greatest places on the whole campus; Butts-Mehre. It was a dead give away for me that when people started off their comments with something about how they are burying Coach Dooley’s memory way out there on the area of the campus where there is nothing, that they have not had the pleasure of visiting Butts-Mehre… Either that or they were blindfolded on their way there and don’t know where it is. When they get to see how nice it is there and how it is now going to be part of what is being named for Coach Dooley, they will see how truly fitting this plan is. At least I hope so. I have to admit that i was also ashamed for the Sanford family when the whole issue is Coach Dooley, with no consideration for Dr. Sanford. I’d bet that very few people who have commented on here bothered to even look up why the Stadium is named for Dr Sanford in the first place… Its worth consideration.
By shane #1
February 18, 2008 7:41 AM | Link to this
general,i can’t comment on the situation with the ut punter because i haven’t read the article.i am not one to get any joy from a player getting in trouble,no matter what team colors he wears.young men think they are immortal,and their mantra is”it won’t happen to ME”.there is always a rotten apple in the barrell,in my youth it was usually me!so i am not pointing a finger at anyone else.
By Outside dawg
February 18, 2008 9:15 AM | Link to this
I do not particularly care for Adams, but it pains me to read how he is being verbally pummeled over the naming of the stadium, when the reality is he has no control over it. All name changes have to be approved by the Board of Regents (BOR), not to mention they also need the permission of the family. Unfortunately no has thought to consider that just maybe the Sanford family doesn’t want Dooley’s name associated with the Stadium.
Let’s ask the question “What does the Sanford family think about changing the name of the stadium?” Once we have that answer then let’s take it to the BOR.
However no one has realized that the Sanford family has been asked and I believe they have said “NO”. So where does that leave us. Well Adams and Evans have tried to make a compromise by honoring Coach Dooley the only way possible taking a page from the Georgia Southern book when they honored Erk naming the stadium area the Erk Russell Complex.
Now here is the irony. Georgia Southern tried to rename the stadium the Paulson-Russell Stadium. They had the approval from the Paulson family however the BOR said “NO”, because the Sanford family said, “NO” to adding Dooley’s name. To keep things from getting even uglier the BOR placed a temporary moratorium on naming facilities.
So because of the Sanford family and the BOR not one but two legendary coaches (Dooley & Russell) in the State of Georgia have been relegated to having there name placed on a complex instead of the stadiums they coached in.
From now on let’s get the facts on the matter, and then take the battle to the people involved and let’s when the war.
GO DAWGS!!!!
By Altamahadawg
February 18, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this
DD, right on cue I see. Gosh, I never saw those homosexual insults coming. How do you think of those? At least you did figure out where the cap lock button is. I’ll be eagerly anticipation your epic battle with the Board. With your clever epithets, I’m sure you will have them in line very soon.
BTW, your posts make the point as to exactly why Adams still has a job.
HunkErdown, its exactly .8 of a mile. But it’s not directly on 316 I guess.
By Altamahadawg
February 18, 2008 10:15 AM | Link to this
Outside Dawg, welcome to the small ranks of folks who do not particularly care for Adams but still has this nagging habit of looking at the facts.
By JCSmalls
February 18, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this
I think that Vince’s Statue should go behind the scoreboard in the West End zone, which should be renamed The Vince Dooley Pavilion/End zone, sort of like Pesky’s Pole in Boston. I would make a pavilion of Brick that extends all the way across from the back of the new scoreboard to around 5-10 Feet short of the Bridge. I would have access to it from inside the stadium only. Imagine that at half time you want to meet up with some buddies…”Hey meet me at Vince.” It would be a meeting place at halftime where you could discuss the 1st half and still keep an eye on the band if you are into that. Outside the stadium the bridge is always a popular spot and the statue would be a focal point for people walking by before the game or students driving/walking by on there way to and from class. Imagine how many people would have a picture of themselves on the bridge with the Vince Dooley Statue and the Stadium in the background. Maybe I am getting a little ahead of myself, but they should take a page out of Turner Field with a video screen on the back of the scoreboard so that people from the bridge can watch the game and that shows highlights during halftime.
If you think this is a good idea, forward to UGA folks and see if it can get some traction.
By UGA Alumn Doesn't Care about Football
February 18, 2008 11:57 AM | Link to this
As much as I disagree with some of Adams’ calls, he made the right one concerning Dooley. This is a major research university darn it, not support facilities for a football team. There are dozens of teachers and researchers in Athens—and at other UGA campuses—who are worth more intellectual capital than all of Georgia’s football coaches put together. It was a hard call, but the right one.
Do y’all really like hyphenated names? That worked really well for the Butt-Smear complex. Oh, sorry— Butts-Mehre
By robodog
February 19, 2008 9:07 AM | Link to this
I’m no defender of Adams, but do think alot of people could be reading too much into this. It’s not a slap or a slight to not get your name on a stadium. Sanford Stadium is a great name and has been the name since the beginning. Naming fields as well as stadiums is just a cute way to avoid hyphens, but doesn’t make a whole lot of sense and I’m glad we’ve avoided it so far. We haven’t accomodated previous great coaches with a stake in the stadium name. Should the players and descendants of Butts and Mehre feel slighted too? They forged the UGA football tradition, then Dooley reclaimed it in a post-Bobby Dodd era. All great coaches. All worthy of honors and facilities. But all coached in Sanford and our present and future great coaches will continue to coach in Sanford. The Regents got it right.
By ED IN ELLIJAY ALUM 78
February 19, 2008 7:07 PM | Link to this
I REFUSE TO EVER GIVE ANOTHER DIME UNTIL ADAMS IS FIRED!!!! HOW MUCH MONEY HAS HE COST UGA????????
By AltamahaDawg
February 20, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this
Ed, we’ll send you a postcard from the Orange Bowl.
By murdock5151
February 20, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this
come on chip, how about a new topic?
By Cuz
February 20, 2008 5:15 PM | Link to this
I care not for Dr. Adams. That said, I am tired of waisting my time and energy calling for his ouster. I was ticked when VD was not given an extension, but I took a shot and got over it. Alt, consider me with you on this one. Just not worth the energy to get fired up about. I like the name Sanford stadium. Sanford-Dooley sounds lame. Now try Sanford-Dooley-Richt stadium. I am related to Pat Dye. Pat Dye field sounds lame.
Let’s just honor Coach Dooley and get on with our lives. Just my opinion.
General, ate at the Waffle House yesterday morning and wondered how you were doing.
By Chip
February 20, 2008 8:31 PM | Link to this
Grew up from ‘79-‘90 in the falls at the UGA campus. Decided for a smaller college expierence and went to David Lipscomb University in Nashville. I am ashamed to even admit that since Dr. Adams got his undergrad from there. Please get him the hell out!!!!!!!!!!!!
By ............................................BuLLdawg
February 21, 2008 12:23 AM | Link to this
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Anyone who has missed this, needs to read this story on TENNESSEE VOLS’ FOOTBALL COACH PHIL FULMER :
http://govolsxtra.com/news/2008/feb/18/ut-football-needs-a-change-at-the-top/
LSU Grad John Adams of the Knoxville News calls for the firing of Phil Fulmer for the eight (8) arrested or disciplined vols in the last six (6) weeks.
http://football.stassen.com/cgi-bin/records/calc-wp.pl?start=2001&end=2007&rpct=1&min=1&ss=on&se=on&c1a=on&pt=on&by=Wins
This URL Link shows vols’ record at 16th best in the nation starting 2001. And, not 1 of these 7 consecutive seasons running now, has Fulmer’s vols been ranked ahead of The Georgia Bulldogs in the Final AP Polls.
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By ............................................BuLLdawg
February 21, 2008 12:42 AM | Link to this
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Hunk Erdown quote here :
” Its time to realize that the stadium (name) and field (name) is going to stay the same as they are now. “
” It does nothing to honor Coach Dooley to bicker and complain about it , all it does is causes what should be a celebration for the Dooley family to be a controversial circus, and thats not Adams’ fault … he has finally progressed to doing something positive for Coach Dooley, its people like Bill King, Buck Belue, and you other people that I shall crown as, “Dooley’s Knights Templar” who have diluted this thing into the sham it has become. “
It sure as hell is Adam$’ fault Hunk Erdown.*
And guess what ? He and you aren’t going to win. **You are wrong that nothing is going to happen at the stadium to HONOR DOOLEY. It is.
You get it that time ?
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By ............................................BuLLdawg
February 21, 2008 12:59 AM | Link to this
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The main reason I hate Adam$ is that he and those who support his position on this controversy started by Adam$ consider that what the HOPE Scholarship has done for Academics at UGA, instead are a direct result of just only Michael F. Adam$. When you can say this, let me know ?
If you support the position of Michael F. Adam$ on this, you are supporting his position.
I, of course, have NEVER supported ANYTHING of Michael F. Adam$, from the beginning.
How having Vince Dooley HONORED at the stadium can only be viewed as negative in your eyes is par for the course from you as you rant on not about this but personal attacks and flames instead because Heaven Knows you do NOT want to man-up to you **SUPPORTING Michael F. Adam$’ position in every post of yours in this entire thread.
Get over yourself that VINCE DOOLEY WILL NOT BE HONORED AT THE STADIUM he built.
You Hunk Erdown (Whether you like it or not I have the right to disagree with you ( and therefore disagree with Michael F. Adam$ on this too )) are as wrong as you can be that Vincent Joseph Dooley will NOT be honored at the stadium. (Try remembering this later when it happens. I assure you I will.)
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By ............................................BuLLdawg
February 21, 2008 1:02 AM | Link to this
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Hunk Erdown quote here in this blog :
” Its time to realize that the stadium [name] and field [name] is going to stay the same as they are now. “
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By ............................................BuLLdawg
February 21, 2008 1:08 AM | Link to this
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” It does nothing to honor Coach Dooley to bicker and complain about it , all it does is causes what should be a celebration for the Dooley family to be a controversial circus, and thats not Adams’ fault “
God Almighty Above is all I can say to THIS B.S. of Hunk Erdown in this blog as well, that this is NOT Michael F. Adam$’ fault.
It sure as HELL is Michael F. Adam$’ fault.
And, he and YOU are NOT having your way on NOT HONORING Vincent Joseph Dooley AT THE STADIUM Vince built.
I’ve heard it all now…
” thats not Adams’ fault “
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By ............................................BuLLdawg
February 21, 2008 1:58 AM | Link to this
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You put yourself on Adam$’ side. So, don’t attempt to blame that on me.
This is a ” controversial circus, and thats not Adams’ fault. “
Whose side is that, pray tell Hunk Erdown ?
YOU are WRONG on this Hunk Erdown. I’m so sorry that you cannot see that you are wrong, or at least man-up to the fact that clearly ARE wrong.
” Its time to realize that the stadium [name] and field [name] is going to stay the same as they are now. “
Whose side is that, pray tell too Hunk Erdown ?
You are defending Michael F. Adam$’ and refusing to admit that that which is his fault and his fault ALONE, is instead anyone’s fault, but his.
You are WRONG again.
Sir, you argue that the stadium name and field name are going to stay the same as they are now and NOT HONOR DOOLEY.
In fact, you tell us that it’s time we realize that the stadium name and field name are going to stay the same as they are now.
” Its time to realize that the stadium [name] and field [name] is going to stay the same as they are now. “
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By ............................................BuLLdawg
February 21, 2008 2:32 AM | Link to this
This is a ” controversial circus, and thats not Adams’ fault. “
You will note that Altamahadawg does NOT make this same statement as you Hunk Erdown. NOT even remotely. In fact, NO ONE makes this statement BUT YOU.
But, you state that you are NOT defending Michael F. Adam$ ?
This “ controversial circus” is “not Adams’ fault. “
By Fred Garvin, Bettendorf MP
February 21, 2008 9:16 AM | Link to this
Dooley is a great football coach. He was not a great AD. He is to blame for the dismal years of UGA B-ball…ie Jim Harrick and son. He should’ve been held accountable.
Vince, stick to glad handing and back slapping activities with the rich Alums. Don’t take it wrong, but stay out of the other UGA admin issues whether sports or otherwise. Put your ego aside for the good of the University.
By Altamahadawg
February 21, 2008 8:24 PM | Link to this
Thanks BullDawg, I always look forward to you telling me how I feel about something.
But lets be clear, I agree with HunkErdown 100%. I do not believe that Michael Adams owns the opinion that the stadium names are best left alone. That is shared by at least the 2 UGA presidents before him and many very loyal Georgia Bulldog football fans. It also seems to be the opinion of every major university in the past 3 decades. Many disagree. That’s why its called “opinion”.
From my perspective, it is inexcusable to continue to insist that if the stadium is NOT renamed for them, (which is never going to happen, not now, not 10 yrs from now, not 2 presidents from now) Coaches Dooley and Richt should take that as an insult. That controversial circus has more to do with your selfish personal agenda than reality.
By TK Harty
February 21, 2008 10:20 PM | Link to this
The only thing getting “beat” on this “blog” is meat. Move on Chip. This BS started on the 12th FCS. Boo…….
TK
By Gen Neyland
February 22, 2008 12:19 AM | Link to this
Hunk Erdown
You’ve been elevated to sainthood…
By Hunk Erdown
February 22, 2008 4:20 AM | Link to this
Sainthood? Why, pray tell?
By ............................................BuLLdawg
February 22, 2008 5:32 AM | Link to this
Altamahadawg speaks for Hunk Erdown :
” The stadium is NOT going to be renamed which is never going to happen, not now, not 10 yrs from now, not 2 presidents from now. “
” That controversial circus has more to do with your selfish personal agenda than reality. “
Hunk Erdown :
” Its time to realize that the stadium [name] and field [name] is going to stay the same as they are now. “
“It does nothing to honor Coach Dooley to bicker and complain about it , all it does is causes what should be a celebration for the Dooley family to be a controversial circus, and thats not Adams’ fault “
Nice guys. Very nice. I will be back, thank you. And, remind you - that your opinion IS NOT the only opinion. And, that you are BOTH WRONG AS YOU CAN BE when the stadium DOES HONOR VINCENT JOSEPH DOOLEY.
By ............................................BuLLdawg
February 22, 2008 5:39 AM | Link to this
General Neyland spent all season long, arguing with me that the vols should NOT fire Philip Fulmer.
Now, that John Adams of the Knoxville News has been interviewed all afternoon long by Buck Belue on 680 the Fan coming home from work last night in the traffic and rain, saying that Phil Fulmer SHOULD BE FIRED, what do we get from General Neyland on this ?
Oh, that he wants to be in the Altamahadawg and Hunk Erdown clique - be one of them.
Well what about 142-10 that never again can out-of-state schools ever renew their Georgia state vehicle tag in Georgia until those states who make up 34 of our 85 scholarships (40 percent) allow our fans in their state to have our UGA tag there first.
AL Ben Jones, Johnathan Owens NC Mohamed Massaquoi, Joe Cox, Dannell Ellerbe, Trinton Sturdivant, Kenneth Harris, Ricardo Crawford, Mikiri Pugh
FL Bryan Evans, Donovan Baldwin, Tony Wilson, Shaun Chapas, Geno Atkins, Kevin Perez, Mike Moore, Jeremy Longo, Blair Walsh
SC CJ Byrd, Prince Miller, Charles White, Jeff Owens, Carlton Thomas, AJ Green
TX Matthew Stafford Mississippi Josh Davis California NaDerris Ward Missouri Logan Gray, Aron White Virginia Marcus Dowtin NJ Knowshon Moreno, Kade Weston Maryland Akeem Hebron
No. 2 Final AP Poll 2007-2008. No. 4 Scout.com ranked recruiting class, No. 6 Rivals ranked recruiting class, and No. 5 ESPN ranked recruiting class.
By ............................................BuLLdawg
February 22, 2008 6:00 AM | Link to this
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Not in seven (7) consecutive seasons running (and counting) have the vols been ranked ahead of UGA Bulldogs in the Final AP Polls. No. 16 in the country in wins starting 2001, 7 long years ago, is what the vols have become. Recruiting has dropped off. And, now in 6 weeks, 8 vols have been arrested or disciplined. AM 790 has their Southern California fan saying that the vols ARE the Miami of college football now. No SEC Championship since 1998. No BCS Bowl Game since 1999. Travis Henry found guilty of rape of two 14-year old children when he was 24 in his mansion he lured them to before they blew the whistle on this vol leading rusher all-time in the history of vols football. Jamal Lewis found guilty of drug deal and served time in federal prison, the vols 2nd leading rusher all-time. QB of NC vols for 4 years denied taking $7,000 in wire transfers at Quick Trip, and then admits : “That was a different Tee Martin. I’m a better person now. I would NEVER take that $7,000 today ” he admits now.
2 who have killed other people, who are prominet vols’ football players, both found guilty of killing others both serving time for it since last the Tennessee vols won an SEC Championship or played in a BCS Bowl Game. Dwayne Goodrich and Leonard Little.
But, all season long, Gen Neyland told me in this blog, post after post, that Phil Fulmer should NOT be fired.
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By ............................................BuLLdawg
February 22, 2008 6:03 AM | Link to this
Tell me again Gen Neyland how I am wrong on this. Tell us instead how you view Phil Fulmer’s record for all these years in a row now ?
Tell us how you want to be a part now of the clique of Hunk Erdown and Altamahadawg that never in the history of man will UGA ever HONOR Vincent Joseph Dooley at the stadium he built ?
By ............................................BuLLdawg
February 22, 2008 6:22 AM | Link to this
And, see to it that you do it while logged in with the handle Gen Neyland. Or, is it because now all of a sudden all of this is just too much to put up with Gen Neyland defending Phil Fulmer in here daily for years to posts such as this one here by me, daily ?
Is that why, ashamed as you are, that you have to log in as other handles every day in this blog because the vols should fire Phil Fulmer now all of a sudden ?
Ashamed of what Gen Neyland ?
Ashamed of the 7 years in a row not ranked higher once than UGA ?
Ashamed of 2 prominent vols’ football players serving time and found guilty of killing others (3) since last the vols played in a BCS Game or won an SEC Championship, neither of which has happened in a decade running now ?
That it ?
By scooter11
February 22, 2008 9:43 AM | Link to this
Chip, were you fired? BuLLDawg is doing your job (or maybe you secretly ARE BullDawg). At least the blog topic has finally changed, albeit to a UT discussion.
By Gen Neyland
February 22, 2008 10:40 AM | Link to this
Fire CPF..? NO WAY… We’re # 2 in the Fulmer Cup rankings and rising…
By shane #1
February 22, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this
general nyland is a class guy.he voiced his dismay with the actions of some ut players before the latest round of troubles.i will not presume to speak for the general,but i can assure anyone that he is no apologist for fulmer.we dog fans do not need to gloat over ut’s problems.there are 99 football players in athens,most are still teenagers.i will take bets that at least one more will do something stupid before the season starts.for all the”thuga”comments from our rivals richt has done a pretty good job of keeping a lid on these guys.sadly,some have fallen by the wayside and are no longer with the program. i don’t blame the coachs for this,each person has to take resposability for himself.it may be time for fulmer to go,but the ut people will decide that.they don’t want or need my opinion.i don’t have a dog in this fight.
By shane #1
February 22, 2008 11:00 AM | Link to this
don’t look back general,saban is gaining on you.not only did he recruit rings around you guys,he is about to take the lead for the fulmer cup.armed robbery is pretty strong.
By murdock5151
February 22, 2008 11:48 AM | Link to this
chip, where are you? how about a new topic?
By Gen Neyland
February 22, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this
shane # 1
Thanks for the words…As for Fulmer and recruiting, I believe that when Cut cut and ran, and with the chatter of firing CPF, the recruiting business took a nosedive. I can’t blame the kids. They want, and their parents want, some measure of stability in the coaching ranks. That’s not evident atop Rocky today. For UT football, one poor recruiting class isn’t gonna be a disaster… Another poor class behind it could be. The Boosters are watching, although past players of CPF stand behind him…At this time…
By AltamahaDawg
February 22, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this
Yes, Bulldawg, if the stadium gets renamed for Vince Dooley, my opinion that it was not going to be, would have been incorrect.
YOU are going to remind somebody about multiple opinions?????You?? Thank you sir, I needed a good laugh today.
By shane #1
February 22, 2008 3:53 PM | Link to this
general,no thanks necessary,i just calls’em as i sees’em.imo,ut recruiting is affected by all the things you mentioned,plus meyer and saban have had a lot of hype and are relatively new,new coachs always bring excitement.there is a lot of talent in the southeast,but there is also a lot of competition.richt has pretty well locked up ga as saban has in ala and miles in la.fl has the most top flight athletes,but you have uf,fsu,and miami to deal with.schools like south fl and ucf are also recruiting better.bowden is really recruiting well in sc,and has raided neighboring states to give clemson a great class.fulmer has been left out in the cold,and i don’t see things getting any easier for him,unless tenn comes up with a great class of high school athletes next year.in the 90’s when fulmer made his bones there was just spurrier to deal with.spurrier is still around,and richt,and meyer,and saban,and tubby,and miles,plus nutt at ole miss and the snake oil salesman in ark.i can’t think of any sec team that i would call poorly coached.fulmer is still a capable coach and a dangerous advisary,but so are brooks,crooms,and johnson.i am not sure cpf has the pizaaz to keep up with the younger sec coachs,especially in recruiting.
By ............................................BuLLdawg
February 22, 2008 5:21 PM | Link to this
Gen Neyland :
As for Fulmer and recruiting, I believe that when Cut cut and ran, and with the chatter of firing CPF, the recruiting business took a nosedive.
For UT football, one poor recruiting class isn’t gonna be a disaster
past players of CPF stand behind him…At this time
Excuse me General Neyland, but you haven’t changed your tune have you ?
By bubba
February 22, 2008 5:24 PM | Link to this
buLLcrap likes VD!
By Hunk Erdown
February 22, 2008 7:25 PM | Link to this
I have never said that Coach Dooley would not or could not be honored at Sanford Stadium, I have even made suggestions as to how it could be done.
I believe that Sanford Stadium will never be named after Coach Dooley, I also believe that the field will never be named after him. It is my belief that there were discussions between representatives of the Board of Regents and the Sanford family. It is my belief that the Regents came out of these discussions with the resolve to never change the name of the stadium or to add another person’s name to any part of the stadium, like the field for instance. However, it is my understanding that the possibility of naming skyboxes came up briefly, but I have no idea how or if that was resolved. It all had nothing to do with Dooley. It all had nothing to do with Adams. I have been told that these discussions took place, and I believe it. I believe that the individuals involved are just shaking their collective heads at all these know-it-alls that put all the blame at Michael Adams’ feet.
All one has to do is to read the minutes of a Board of Regents meeting or two and see how quickly that Adams or members of the Athletic department are put in their place when they try to overstep their bounds to the Regents. Quite entertaining, actually.
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February 22, 2008 11:34 PM | Link to this
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By ............................................BuLLdawg
February 23, 2008 5:23 AM | Link to this
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Hunk Erdown :
” I believe that Sanford Stadium will never be named after Coach Dooley “
” I also believe that the field will never be named after him. “
” Its time to realize that the stadium [name] and field [name] is going to stay the same as they are now. “
” never change the name of the stadium or to add another person’s name to any part of the stadium, like the field for instance “
Altamahadawg speaks for Hunk Erdown :
” The stadium is NOT going to be renamed which is never going to happen , not now, not 10 yrs from now, not 2 presidents from now. “
Altmahadawg speaks for Hunk Erdown :
” That controversial circus** has more to do with your selfish personal agenda than reality. “
Hunk Erdown :
“I believe that the individuals involved are just shaking their collective heads at all these know-it-alls that put all the blame at Michael Adams’ feet. “
Hunk Erdown :
“It does nothing to honor Coach Dooley to bicker and complain about it , all it does is causes what should be a celebration for the Dooley family to be a controversial circus, and thats not Adams’ fault “
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I think we got it.
By ............................................BuLLdawg
February 23, 2008 6:20 AM | Link to this
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Recruiting One Bad Class not going to hurt Phil Fulmer relative to the rest ?
Rivals
64-15 Avg 9 LSU 11 in 08, 4 in 07, 7 in 06, 22 in 05, 2 in 04, 1 in 03, 15 in 02.
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64-15 Avg 6 UGA 6 in 08, 9 in 07, 4 in 06, 10 in 05, 6 in 04, 6 in 03, 3 in 02.
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54-23 Avg 7 FL 3 in 2008, 1 in 2007, 2 in 2006, 15 in 2005, 7 in 2004, 2 in 2003, 20 in 2002.
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59-18 Avg 12 Auburn 20 in 08, 7 in 07, 10 in 06, 13 in 05, 21 in 04, 11 in 03, 6 in 02.
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52-25 Avg 14 Fulmer 35 in 08, 3 in 07, 23 in 06, 4 in 05, 11 in 04, 18 in 03, 2 in 02.
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The last 2 classes have averaged No. 19 for Fulmer.
The last 3 classes have averaged No. 20 for Fulmer.
The last 4 classes have averaged No. 16 for Fulmer.
The last 5 classes have averaged No. 15 for Fulmer.
52-25 is the No. 19 team in the nation for Fulmer’s vols over the last 6 years and counting, now.
Gen Neyland :
” As for Fulmer and recruiting, I believe that when Cut cut and ran, and with the chatter of firing CPF, the recruiting business took a nosedive. “
” past players of CPF stand behind him…At this time “
” For UT football, one poor recruiting class isn’t gonna be a disaster. “
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Fulmer has averaged the No. 14 Recruiting Class according to Rivals over the last 6 seasons, and is No. 19 in the nation in Wins over the last 6 seasons. Fulmer has NOT RECRUITED WELL and has done even WORSE WITH HIS RECRUITS than is expected, No. 19 instead of expected No. 14.
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” For UT football, one poor recruiting class isn’t gonna be a disaster. “
By ............................................BuLLdawg
February 23, 2008 6:28 AM | Link to this
Both Altamahadawg and Hunk Erdown state unequivocally that the controversial circus is NOT Michael F. Adam$’ fault.
Both Altamahadawg and Hunk Erdown state unequivocally that neither the stadium nor the field will EVER be named for Vincent Joseph Dooley, or ANY PART of either.
They are, collectively, both wrong on both points.
By Altamahadawg
February 23, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this
Yaaaawn
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February 23, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this
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February 23, 2008 12:08 PM | Link to this
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February 23, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this
For kicks go over to the article and see just how upset the GT guys are over the legislature doing away with the Gator car tags. Hey maybe some free hotdogs would get them to change thier minds.
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February 23, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this
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By Tom
February 23, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this
Let me tell all the Adams fans out there. Vince Dooley is a class-act. I was a Freshman at Auburn when I first met Coach Dooley, and from that time to the present CLASS speaks of him. At least name the field after him, as we a field named after a Georgia player, Pat Dye. Honor where honor is due.
By Cobb Dawg
February 23, 2008 4:26 PM | Link to this
BuLLdawg, you, sir, are a nut. A nutty Dawg perhaps, but a nut in all events.
Winston Churchill was once quoted as saying that “a fanatic is someone who can’t change his mind, and won’t change the subject.”
Does your wife know anyone like that?
By BPH
February 23, 2008 7:02 PM | Link to this
I think Adams is great. He has raised the academic standards of our University and he should be commended for that.
I think all of the animosity towards Adams comes from the fact that most of the pre-Adams alumni could not get into the University today. They would be Auburn alum if he was around back when they were students.
As for the rednecks who never attended UGA…giving money to buy football tickets is not really giving money to the University. It does nothing for the University. So pipe down!
By ............................................BuLLdawg
February 24, 2008 3:16 AM | Link to this
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By Tom
February 23, 2008 3:10 PM
” Let me tell all the Adams fans out there. Vince Dooley is a class-act. I was a Freshman at Auburn when I first met Coach Dooley, and from that time to the present CLASS speaks of him. At least name the field after him
” as we a field named after a Georgia player, Pat Dye. “
” *Honor where honor is due.” *
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2nd Quote :
Katherine R. Chandley: Bulldog fans can bestow the ‘Dooley Field’ honor
Story updated at 6:38 PM on Thursday, February 21, 2008
” effective today, I’m calling on the Bulldog Nation to start using ” Dooley Field ” in their everyday conversation when discussing that piece of hallowed ground between the hedges at Sanford Stadium. “
” We don’t need a higher authority to do this. And just watch the press and football fans everywhere follow our lead. “
Katherine R. Chandley
Published in the Athens-Banner Herald Friday.
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By Bucknfl
February 24, 2008 9:11 PM | Link to this
Adams is an a***** and has no credilibilty or judgement.
By WR Dawg
February 25, 2008 6:07 AM | Link to this
SanDooleyford Stadium… Look Adams, no hyphen!