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By Buck in the NW

October 23, 2007 3:33 PM | Link to this

I’m sure he’ll be nervous but Caleb King is coming. If the Coaches will give him a package of plays to run King will really help the Dawgs. This is not a normal(whatever that is) situation. He should have been pulled up the moment Lumpkin went down. Stafford, Moreno and King=speed, quickness and a cannon. We’ll have a good shot.

By TK Harty

October 23, 2007 3:43 PM | Link to this

Amen Buck. If King needs to play, yank the shirt. I have a ghostly good feeling about this game.

Go Dogs

By Bradley G

October 23, 2007 3:44 PM | Link to this

Of course the players don’t care about the streaks…we, the fans, do.

And, please, for the love of all things UGA, do NOT play Caleb King with less than half the season over. I can’t wait to see him either, but to waste him for possibly one game…any game…is crazy. Brown will be back by the next week. Our chances for the SEC East title are slim anyway. Needing to beat UF, UA, and KY to have a CHANCE isn’t good prospects.

BTW, can anyone name the last time UGA beat Florida, Auburn, AND Tech in the same year?

By AltamahaDawg

October 23, 2007 3:49 PM | Link to this

Carefull Buck what you wish for. We will not see King unless Moreno goes down, and I’m not sure about then.

By Buck in the NW

October 23, 2007 3:51 PM | Link to this

If Caleb King plays one play he’ll play the rest of the season and he should have been on the field from the git go.

By AltamahaDawg

October 23, 2007 3:54 PM | Link to this

They really Do need to change that rule that bringing an injured senior to an away game, counts against your player totals allowed. Make him ineligible, whatever, how difficult is that? The bad thing is that as a player, he can’t even make alternative travel without breaking some rule, I suppose? Can’t go with the team, can’t go support the team.

By Big Dawg

October 23, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this

I guess Coach Richt may have been listening to someone because it has been a huge mistake in not getting him in there after Lumpkin went down the first time and especially after Brown broke his collarbone. BTW from what I can remember the last time GA beat all three i.e. Auburn, Fl and GA Tech was 1982.

Go Dawgs

By Pastor Richt

October 23, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this

Hello everybody, this is the Panama Pope, Pastor Richt, CMR. As you can see, our boys have developed a little amnesia recently. I have allowed them to puff the piece pipe in order to cloud their short-term memory. This acclompishes a number of things for us. The recent UGA-UF record is dismissed, our team’s two losses are forgotten, Matt Stafford is still thinking he is entering his first start as a freshman phenom, and I even let old Willie-Mart chief some, so he will forget all he knows about defensive schemes, and maybe he’ll run a blitz or two. I like Bill, did not inhale, and I am going to forget I hired Boob-boo, and run the offense again.

Pass it to the left, and you will forget that we are going down the SEC crapper.

By BirdMahn

October 23, 2007 4:06 PM | Link to this

DO NOT WASTE A YEAR OF CALEB’S ELIGIBILITY ON WHAT’S LEFT OF THIS SEASON! Sorry for yelling. I just had to do it.

By nate

October 23, 2007 4:06 PM | Link to this

Easy Bradley…easy. I have zero facts to back this up…and I know that…but I highly highly doubt King will stay five seasons regardless. That kid WILL leave college early if we do not play him this year. I guarantee it

By Buck in the NW

October 23, 2007 4:12 PM | Link to this

Altahama, what’s wrong with having them both on the field at the same time. I’m cartainly not hoping for Moreno to go down. Is that the way you read my post? Moreno won’t be able to run every play the whole game so I think someone will give him a rest and I hope it’s King but again what’s wrong with them both being back there.

By Chip Towers

October 23, 2007 4:13 PM | Link to this

Buck, I have to tell you, I don’t see the logic in pulling a redshirt off a kid who hasn’t played in a game all season and you want to throw him into the biggest and most important game of the season on national television. Don’t you think that’d be a little much for a guy who’s never played?

By AltamahaDawg

October 23, 2007 4:21 PM | Link to this

nate, you dont get an EXTRA year by playing him now. Even if he was still leaving after his Jr year, its still 3 years. Redshirted or not. 3=3. And what would be more productive for UGA? 2 years and a partial year, or 3 good years?

By Big Dawg

October 23, 2007 4:25 PM | Link to this

Chip,

That’s just it he should have been getting playing time all along so we wouldn’t be in this predicament of only having one true tail back with actual game experience. It has been a huge mistake on Coach Richt’s part in not taking advantage of a truely talented player who just like Moreno, Hearst, Henderson and Walker had that “IT” factor. Florida did it with Harvin last year and this year as well designing plays to take advantage of his special gifts i.e. break away speed with elusiveness and with good hands.

Go Dawgs

By gdawginkalamazoo

October 23, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this

Buck, I concurr. Yank the redshirt off King already. I want to see him get the experience he will need for next season. If he can help the team this year cut him loose. Moreno will need some breaks and we need another featured back to help carry the load. Brown down and Lumps gone till bowl time. If King can run the plays then get him in there. We thought we were loaded at TB starting the year, now look at us. Although Moreno is the man and damn glad he is.

By Buck in the NW

October 23, 2007 4:30 PM | Link to this

No I don’t. I said he may make a mistake but he should have been in before now. Are we playing to win? I dont believe that CK will stay at Ga. for 4 more years. We need his speed and would you play back ups who have never played a down? Yes, Caleb King would lose a year for 5 games but because of what I think were coaching mistakes made early, do we continue down the same path? As for TV., we’ve been on every game but one. Is this the biggest game of the year? I think so and thats why we need the best talent we have on the field.

By ARdawg

October 23, 2007 4:31 PM | Link to this

Chip

I don’t understand your logic. The redshirt status isn’t gone until he actually plays is it? If Caleb King is the Phenom he has been hyped up to be He’s not going to hang around Ga as a 5th year senior with the NFL in the shadows. C’mon get real.

We’ll quite possibly need need him. Moreno is great but FLwill be looking for Moreno too. They’ve seen him enough to know they’ll prepare. King could be another much needed spark to a stagnant offense

By Wes

October 23, 2007 4:33 PM | Link to this

Pulling the shirt off of Caleb King would be a HUGE mistake. Jason Johnson has been in the system for a number of years, and if need be, CMR has already said he has a number of single back formations with Sutherland (who is one of our best players) that he can run.

Besides, I know it hasn’t been against teams like Florida, but Kalvin Daniels has already come off the bench in a few games and has a TD….he won’t be a game buster for us, but if the offensive line executes, he should at least be able to get us a few yards here and there…as a worst case scenario.

By AltamahaDawg

October 23, 2007 4:35 PM | Link to this

No, Buck I’m obviously not suggesting you were hoping Moreno got hurt. I’m saying, to see King would mean we were about at the end our our RB rope, and I hope that not going to be the case. I’m saying he will NOT play (irrespective of anyone opinion that he should) unless Moreno gets hurt and that is the reality. SO how about you wish he was, but hope he doesnt have to? I could think of a couple of things wrong with having them both on at the same times but mostly why would you? (I’m not saying he cannot do these things at all BUT)….King is not the fastest guy on the team, he’s not the best blocker on the team, he’s not the best receiver on the team, I doubt he would be more effective running the ball than Moreno. What reason would you have him on the field next to Moreno? You’d also be taking a very fine FB out of the equation, who can block, run, and catch.

By Wes

October 23, 2007 4:38 PM | Link to this

Can I remind everyone that Richt is doing the exact same thing with Caleb King that he did with Knowshon Moreno…seems to be working out pretty well, wouldn’t you say?

By noyellowinthisblood

October 23, 2007 4:39 PM | Link to this

What is Ware thinking about right now and by the way where did he land? I say lift the redshirt on King if needed. I’m sure we could use his help and the Dawgs will have plenty in waiting for years to come.

By Junkyard Dawg

October 23, 2007 4:39 PM | Link to this

Unless Caleb King can play offensive tackle I say keep the shirt on.

By Chip Towers

October 23, 2007 4:40 PM | Link to this

Big Dawg, couldn’t disagree with you more wholeheartedly. The Dogs had two very talented seniors at the position in addition to Moreno to start the year. You can’t play four TBs. When Lumpkin first went down he was supposed to come back soon. Brown IS coming back, probably next week. Don’t you think if King had shown tremendous ability at the outset they would have moved to get him ready? And there’s a lot more involved than just tossing the ball to him and saying “run hard, kid.” I think all this talk about playing him is crazy.

By Big Dawg

October 23, 2007 4:42 PM | Link to this

Wes,

Please explain why in your opinion it would be a “Huge Mistake” to take the Red shirt off of CK?

By gdawginkalamazoo

October 23, 2007 4:44 PM | Link to this

Alta, what am I missing? Wouldn’t he eligible to leave at the end of two years anyway? Frosh (RS no PT), soph (PT), junior (PT) then off to the NFL if his productivity and potential is good enough. That would be the question. Age wise he would be old enough for the NFL. That is just my opinion though. I have known to be wrong before.

Chip, I thought King was suppose to be one of the best backs in the country coming out of high school? If so the question is, can he help the team NOW? If the answer to that is yes then remove the RS. If it is questionable then let him be.
Joe T did it two year ago and almost won the game.

By Dalton

October 23, 2007 4:45 PM | Link to this

Well, just how important is THIS year for the Dawgs? Yes, half the year is gone, and pulling the redshirt off now means Caleb misses half the year as a frosh. HOWEVER, the games that remain are very important to the overall success of this season, which could build confidence and success for years to come. If GA NEEDS King, play him now. Imagine what he will be like with that experience going into Columbia next year!

By ES

October 23, 2007 4:47 PM | Link to this

If this kid could possibly help win won or two of the next few games that we have, it would mean a whole lot to this program right now.I like thinking 4 years down the road but this program doesnt need a 6 and 6 year right now!their is a big drop off with these other backs.Besides look how many top rated backs Richt has been able to recruit,I dont think thats going to stop.Worry about NOW sometimes.

By CapeCodDawg

October 23, 2007 4:47 PM | Link to this

I just feel that if they are gonna pull the shirt form Caleb then it should have been done weeks ago. It kills me to think that we’d have lost him for half a season as far as his Bulldog career goes. At this point we should just ride it out.

WE NEED TO WRAP UP!! when tackling…finish the block….catch the ball……play like CHAMPIONS!!! Dammit!

By gdawginkalamazoo

October 23, 2007 4:50 PM | Link to this

noyellowinthisblood, last time I saw Ware he was doing a fairly decent job the the NY Jets in the preseason. I think he made the roster for this season.

By AltamahaDawg

October 23, 2007 4:52 PM | Link to this

ARdawg, I’m not disagreeing I just don’t get your point. How does Uf prepare (looking for) specifically for Moreno? They certainly know we are going to have a running back in the game. I dont think that really any trade secret. He is a running back, he is standing right there. King wouldnt be some razzle dazzle, oh we didnt expect that. I cant see how putting in King would throw them for a loop.

And as I said before, if you are correct and King does try to leave after playing 3 years, wouldn’t 3 more productive years, three complete year, be better all the way around.

Jason Johnson will pick up 25-30 yard in the game and spare Moreno just fine.

By Buck in the NW

October 23, 2007 4:57 PM | Link to this

Altahama, I’m not even thinking about King playing in place of Moreno but we had some plays here Brown and Moreno were on the field at the same time what’s the problem with King and Moreno. So who is the fastest RB? Correct me but I believe King was clocked at 4.31 in the 40……Chip would you check that for all of us? Brown was right behind him but with Brown out who is faster? But none of that matters, it’s using him for 5-6 plays that fit his skills, the exact same way Harvin was used by the Reptiles.

By Wes

October 23, 2007 4:58 PM | Link to this

Big Dawg,

Chip basically explained it in the post right above yours. On top of that, Caleb had a severe injury his Sr. year in high school that no one is completely sure that he’s recovered from, he’s (as our freshmen offensive linemen are showing) potentially not physically strong enough yet to handle going against a top-notch SEC team, or, again like Chip said, he’d already be in the rotation. We still have our leading TD scorer from last year in the backfield, not a long run threat, but I guarantee he’s able to pick up yards…as well as two other players who, granted not much, have more real game experience than Caleb.

It has nothing to do with wanting to keep him around as long as possible…its the fact that so far, he is NOTHING but potential…don’t get me wrong, I think he’ll be a great back for us after having a year to learn the system and get stronger, but it just doesn’t make sense to throw a kid into a football game, halfway through a season, because he MIGHT be good one day.

By ARdawg

October 23, 2007 4:59 PM | Link to this

Leave the redshirt on King and wave goodbye in 3 years or take it off of him and let him have 3.5 years. Seems like a no brainer to me.

Chip You make that statement like King is just joining the team. Hasn’t he been practicing with the team and learning the playbook or is he working out in the equipment room?

By Albert

October 23, 2007 5:00 PM | Link to this

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By Big Dawg

October 23, 2007 5:01 PM | Link to this

Altamaha

King is not the fastest guy on the team, he’s not the best blocker on the team, he’s not the best receiver on the team, I doubt he would be more effective running the ball than Moreno. What reason would you have him on the field next to Moreno? You’d also be taking a very fine FB out of the equation, who can block, run, and catch.

1. No one said he was the fastest but he happens to be the fastest running back and that includes Thomas Brown on the team, plus just like Moreno he reads the defense real well and will deviate from where the play is called and run for daylight which Thomas Brown was either unwilling and/or unable to do.
2. As for being the best blocker, receiver etc. he doesn’t have to be when you start talking about using him in specific situations which best utilize his skills.
3. I am not talking about him being a better RB than Moreno but as a compliment to him and Southerland who happens to be a fantastic all around player.

Its just my opinion but the Dawgs can use all the weapons we can get and hopefully we will beat the Gators and get that monkey off of our backs a little.

Go Dawgs

By MURPHY

October 23, 2007 5:03 PM | Link to this

Caleb is not going to win the FLA game for us,but he could lose it for us.( fumble).He in noway would be ready for this game(mentally).I agree we should have played him earlier in the year.Now is not the time.( unless he is another Herchel-I doubt that very seriously).We just need to play good defense and smart on the offensive side and I think we will compete with them.

By Wes

October 23, 2007 5:04 PM | Link to this

ARdawg,

Until this week Caleb King has been practicing with the scout team…that means he’s been running other teams offenses week in and week out…not ours.

By AltamahaDawg

October 23, 2007 5:05 PM | Link to this

Zoo, I think what you are missing is this , As I see it the way we general determine a players designation is by year playing so he is just going to be a freshman in his football carreer next year, not a sophomore. In your scenereo he would be leaving after his (rs) sophmore year, not Jr.

Not only have we Never had that happen, but no pro scout in the universe is going to advise him to do that. After a (RS)Junior season, maybe, but again that means we have him for 3 years, and should have made the most out of them, and not wasted one halfway through.

and yes Wes, Moreno is the Poster boy for redshirting.

By Dalton

October 23, 2007 5:08 PM | Link to this

Altamaha - J.J. might pick up 25-30 yards this week, but is that what we really need? Can he turn on the jets and break one for 60 and a TD? THAT might be the difference in this ballgame, and if CMR thinks Caleb can catch a screen or two and break one, go for it. Should we hold back a dangerous weapon that could win the game just hoping we keep him for a possible 4th year, or use him now to help beat FLA, AUB, KY, and GT (plus bowl game)? And again, with this year’s experience, think what we can take to Columbia next year. We can’t afford to lose that one so early in the year again.

By JimmyG

October 23, 2007 5:08 PM | Link to this

Thank god we have someone like Marcus Washington. I hope all the players feel like that.

Side note - Chip, I saw the basketball team practice the other day and you are right they are going to look good getting off the bus. If we can survive without Brown and Jackson down low the suspensions could be a blessing, because it will give the new big guys time to get used to D1 game speed.

By matt

October 23, 2007 5:09 PM | Link to this

FYI, CMR is 17-2 when he has more than one week to prepare.

By AltamahaDawg

October 23, 2007 5:09 PM | Link to this

I didnt say he wasnt the fastest RB, I said he was not the fastest player. My point is if we have better runners, blockers, and faster (reverse) players, we dont need him in the same backfield as Moreno. Nothing for him to do.

By Matt

October 23, 2007 5:12 PM | Link to this

FYI, CMR is 17-2 when he has more than one week to prepare.

By MURPHY

October 23, 2007 5:13 PM | Link to this

WE DONT NEED CALEB!

WE NEED ATTITUDE!!!

By ES

October 23, 2007 5:14 PM | Link to this

Alt as close as these games has been the last 5 years while Jasons getting those 25 yards Caleb might take one to the house that could be the difference in a win or yet another close loss in Jax.BTW the gators hasn’t been dominating us like they did under SOS.To hear these modern Gators youd think they have been beating us like SOS did 45-13 and so on.

By ARdawg

October 23, 2007 5:15 PM | Link to this

Altamaha….I’m pretty sure the gators have watched Moreno’s runs on film over and over….they are preparing a defense to slow him down. He for the time being is our Tebow. I haven’t seen Johnson play….he may be just as effective as a Caleb King.

Yes there’s going to be a tailback regardless but know you don’t prepare for all TBs the same way. The FL coaching staff have watched all of Morenos carries, Ga’s plays and formations thus far.

If they key on and stop Moreno, they’ll be giving up something in the secondary. We don’t have much in the passing game to take advantage of it

By AltamahaDawg

October 23, 2007 5:16 PM | Link to this

Big dawg you are describing why he should play as a featured back in some plays, (which was not what I was questioning at that time) My point was, why would we have both of them on at the same time. Complimenting sure. As in on rotating plays. I’m saying if you , and you going to run a speedy player around on a reverse, we have faster guys). if King is going to run, why have Moreno in there. If its a play to Moreno, why not have your BEST blocker in.

By Wes

October 23, 2007 5:18 PM | Link to this

Dalton,

Yes, that’s exactly what we need. Hopefully Knowshon will be busting 60 yard touchdown runs and will need an ocassional breather. So, you put Jason Johnson in every once in a while, let him get his 20 to 30 yards, and put Knowshon back in for another 60 yard touchdown run.

Chip, I’m with you, I just can’t understand why anyone thinks we’re missing out on this huge offensive weapon by not playing a guy who has never seen time in a college football game???

By TybeeDawg

October 23, 2007 5:23 PM | Link to this

People, people, people….take your blinders off! WHAT IF King does not turn out to be all that he is hyped to be? Haven’t we seen that plenty of times before? So if you pull the redshirt, you’re really doing it for ONE game! Cause TB will likely be back next week anyway. You cannot possibly assume that CK will leave after his junior year when you havent seen him play one down in teh SEC. Why not assume that CK is here for 4 years like the majority of players are. And if he is gone after 3 seasons then we obviously got to watch an extremely talented and productive player. Besides pulling the redshirt would not stop him from leaveing after 3 years anyway…in that case we only got less than 2 1/2 years out of him.

By ES

October 23, 2007 5:28 PM | Link to this

Wes those breather opportunities might be the one gaping whole that an additional to the house play happens thats the difference in one of these squeakers.

By Dalton

October 23, 2007 5:29 PM | Link to this

I understand your point Wes. We need that mix. But that plan will be very easy for FLA to scheme against. I’m just thinking that if you have two game-breakers at the same time, you might have a better chance of scoring on any one play, and it will be painful to watch Sat. if our offense grinds. Honestly, I don’t know that much about J.J. and shouldn’t judge him or his quickness yet. Just want the Dawgs to win this one!

By Wes

October 23, 2007 5:34 PM | Link to this

Dalton,

I totally agree with you…two game breakers would be a HUGE advantage in this game…my point is, we don’t know if we have two game breakers. No one has ever seen Caleb King touch a ball in a college football game, so we don’t know WHAT he is yet. He could be the best running back we’ve ever had…but the chances of a true freshman (I know, Hershel) being that kind of player are very slim.

By Buck in the NW

October 23, 2007 5:38 PM | Link to this

Murphy, I said that he could make a mistake so I’m with you but he could be put on the field in a lot of ways to take a few licks. Everybody on the staff has bragged about Brown and the way he worked his knee back into shape(myself included) but CK worked just as hard in the class room to make his grades. He didn’t go to the scout team after the 1st game. He has done everything that’s been asked of him. If used properly I don’t believe he’ll lose the game but would as Dalton said he has what it takes to break one and that could win the game. You and I agree that he should have been played earlier but he wasn’t. Do we continue to make the same mistake when we’re down to players who’ve hardly stepped on the field? No one planned for the breaks to go the way they have so should we continue on or make a bold move? We still have a lot of football to play. Lets go for the win. We’re not hurting Caleb King. of course that’s my opinion.

By Big Dawg

October 23, 2007 5:41 PM | Link to this

Chip,

Thanks for responding and thanks for a very good topic.

No, I don’t think Ball, Bo Bo and Coach Richt would have otherwise when Moreno was being so impressive last year they would have played him. BTW Richt admitted it was a big mistake in not playing Moreno, Josh Davis and several other of the freshmen players he redshirted last year and IMHO it is the same with Caleb King and sveral other freshmen this year. But it is only my opinion and I could be wrong.

Go Dawgs

By ES

October 23, 2007 5:43 PM | Link to this

Wes go to rivals and watch the runs just like I watched Moreno or clips of even Percy Harvin.The kids got the package,and is going to be good.

By Dalton

October 23, 2007 5:44 PM | Link to this

CHIP - We obviously are going to see plenty of time from Jason Johnson Saturday. Can you give us a heads up on what to expect from him, and how Bobo will likely use him?

By jim

October 23, 2007 5:56 PM | Link to this

The bottem line is the monkey is on Stafford’s back. It’s time for him to sh** or get off the pot. Against TN he looked sub Pop Warner. If he plays like that against FL it does not matter who the running back is because they will not carry the ball much. We need to get over the BS about being a young team. Freshmen are playing and making big impacts nation wide. Last year for us to not have a QB ready when there were 4 top ten QBs on the team can only point to coaching. Recievers can’t catch the ball. They look good the first year and then go to hell in a bread basket. CMR needs to bench Stafford and put someone in who can complete a pass. It mite do him good. Remember in the fall before the season started the scout team made the 1st team guys look bad. Should tell you something. We can not stop the run! We can not stop the pass. Lord help us because if things don’t change the FL is going to clean our clock!!!!

By ARdawg

October 23, 2007 5:56 PM | Link to this

Wes,

Good point and thanks for the info. I did not realize he was on the scout team

By jel

October 23, 2007 5:59 PM | Link to this

For some reason all of the hype around Caleb King has me thinking he may be the next Jasper Sanks.

By Replay

October 23, 2007 6:07 PM | Link to this

Richt at it again.

“Coach Mark Richt on Florida: “We’re playing the defending national champions, a team that could easily be ranked No. 1 right now if a couple of games go the other way.”

That can be said about almost every other Top 25 Team right now!!!!!!! Are you kidding me! He’s already explaining away the loss!

They’re not 7-0 and Number 1. They’re 5-2, just like GEORGIA!!! I’m so sick of his sh1t. Stop making excuses and start leading our program.

By Bill W.

October 23, 2007 6:08 PM | Link to this

No need to burn King’s redshirt. Not gonna happen and shouldn’t. We have Moreno, Johnson, Daniels, Chapas, Southerland, and even Munzemeier if needed. That’s enough. Hell, Bobo may even run more QB draws with Stafford than usual. Let King wait til next year. He will be more adjusted, healthy, and ready to roll then.

Go Dawgs!!!

By Replay

October 23, 2007 6:11 PM | Link to this

Oh yeah, on more thing, PLEASE for the love of G0D, if Stafford plays like sh1t again, will the coaching staff pull him out of the game and at least give Joe Cox a shot. Cox is a VERY GOOD QB. And least it might give us a shot to win, whereas leaving Stafford in for the second half when he insn;t producing is just asking for another bad half and a loss.

By AltamahaDawg

October 23, 2007 6:19 PM | Link to this

Big dawg, come on! Mark Richt admitted not playing Moreno last year was a huge mistake???????? really?

By AltamahaDawg

October 23, 2007 6:31 PM | Link to this

Yea, he MIGHT do a lot of things. He might fumble, he might sprint for a touchdown. I’ll put my money on simply doing the things we need to do with the players that we have. I agree that it’s been very close and a little edge would help. But the reason we didnt get that one play didnt have anything to do with who we didnt have on the field as a freshman. it was our guy NOt making the play. Would our line playing well be a little edge. Would completing a couple of long passes be an edge. Would controlling the clock and keeping Tebow on the bench be a little edge. My point is: we already know what its going to take and it doesnt include some unknown. If we dont do those things, NO WAY a freshman Rb coming in off the scout team 8 games into the season is going to matter. If Bobo cannot script some plays that use what we already have as weapons, we arent likely going to need to figure out what King MIGHT do. Baring injuries, if we see King in game, we are already screwed.

By Dalton

October 23, 2007 6:34 PM | Link to this

Just for fun…how about this scenario:

Stafford or Cox begins to wear down FLA defense with successful QB draws, picking up 7 yards at a time and crucial 1st downs when it counts. Our QB wins the game on third and goal from the 5 yd. line…on a QB draw! Sunday’s Headline: “GATORS GET TEBOWED!”

Seriously, why doesn’t Bobo call the draw a little more often? Stafford can slide if he needs to. It might help loosen up the coverage a bit.

By TybeeDawg

October 23, 2007 6:40 PM | Link to this

If we made a “mistake” by redshirting CK this year, you can’t fix that by pulling his redshirt with 5 games to go. He could still leave after his junior year and would only have played 2 years and 5 games.

By AltamahaDawg

October 23, 2007 7:18 PM | Link to this

ARdawg, I dont get that, I understand that different back have differnt styles, But I cant really see UF preparing for Moreno’s “style” other than sound defensive assignment football. Work of tackling fundamantal. I’m not believing that bringing in somebody else would present problems for UF as they have been preparing for Moreno all this time. From what I read, King is pretty similar anyway. Now if they are preparing for the run and we pass, or somethinhg like that I get it.

By SamoanDawg

October 23, 2007 7:39 PM | Link to this

Caleb King will not play and should not step foot on the field unless it’s necessary, of course. The kid has talent but I wouldn’t pull the shirt off. First of all, he ain’t game ready… period.

We have Jason Johnson, Shaun Chapas, Kalvin Daniels to give Moreno some rest. I have confident in these guys. We can win with’em.

Both side of the lines must play physical. Control the line of scrimmage. We win this game if we manned up the lines.

Go Dawgs!

By Wes

October 23, 2007 7:48 PM | Link to this

ES,

I know what Caleb can do, my dad was one of his coaches at Parkview. I’ve watched the kid play since he was a kid. Like I said before, I think he’ll be a great running back for us, I just don’t think it’s worth this one game.

Trust me, I want to beat FL as bad as anyone, but it would basically just be for one game…Brown should be back next week, and like I said, at this point it’s all potential. It just seems a shame to pull his shirt for what he could potentially do for just one game.

By ARdawg

October 23, 2007 7:56 PM | Link to this

Altamaha

I see it like this: Our bread and butter, what little there has been has been the speed in the back field. Currently that speed is Moreno alone Our passing game hasn’t been much of a threat to anybody. It should be a threat to Florida with their proven weak corners. To win this game it is imperative that the passing game be effective, short screens, slants and the long ball. I think FL is preparing for a speedy running game with the mindset of stop Moreno and you stop Ga. They really do not give us much credit for offensive creativity. Are they preparing for a TB or Moreno really makes no difference I guess, but I believe they are preparing for speed. Probably a good time to ram Southerland down their throats.

By Denver Dog

October 23, 2007 7:56 PM | Link to this

Hey gang,

I remember a year either 1977 or 1979 in which we were down to the 6th string quarterback. Figure it now we are down to # 3 running back so if we get hurt play the man, if not let him wish he were playing. Look at what it did for Moreno. \

CMR knows what he is doing, and if he needs this young man to play he will. I also remember the opening game for South Carolina in the SEC, in Columbia. They brought a freshman in toward the end of the 4th quarter, with fresh legs and he hammered out the victory for the dogs. That freshman was named Hines Ward. Maybe we should have held him out one more year.

By quaildawg

October 23, 2007 8:00 PM | Link to this

What gives with only mentioning 17 games??? Last time I looked in the archives of this matchup (which dates back to 1904) the record stands at… UGA 46-Wins UF 37-Wins 2 Ties All I know and care about this game is that in the four years (1980-84)I was at UGA the Dawgs went 4-0 against the Gators with scores of 26-21, 26-21, 44-0, & 10-9. Haven’t been but to one game in Jax since and don’t care to go back!

By La Jolla Dawg

October 23, 2007 8:00 PM | Link to this

I don’t really have an opinion either way about Caleb King and whether or not he should be redshirted, but I do think we have a problem with too many players leaving early for the NFL. It seems like we have been losing junior after junior to the NFL and not only is that bad for the team, in the long run (sometimes short run) it is bad for the player himself. David Pollack was one of a few in recent memory that I can remember making the choice to stay.

On an unrelated note, please send good thoughts out for your fellow dawgs who live in the San Diego area. There are quite a few of us out here, and as I am sure you can imagine, the past few days have not been good.

By A-ville Ranger

October 23, 2007 8:00 PM | Link to this

Buck Well CMR dicided to take Caleb south.I think it’s the smart move whether he plays or not….Altamaha one reason to have Caleb and Knowshon in the same backfield would be to spread and confuse the Gator defense.I think the two top keys to the game will be Stafford and the receivers against the UF corners(take em’ deep).First,the most vulnerable area of the Florida defense is cornerback play. Second,our defensive line must play sound and aggressively,if Tebow isn’t contained and pressured it’ll be a long day.

By Buck in the NW

October 23, 2007 8:08 PM | Link to this

Wes, CMR won’t pull the “Shirt” for just one game and that’s part of what makes it a hard decision. He’ll play him the rest of the season and we would see more rotating of the backs. No, it won’t be for one game. We know Lumpkin is out for the season. We think that TB will be back next week but we have no idea as to how his knee will respond……Great thing about this blog today, IMO, is everybody is getting to put their two cents worth in and it’s not been a cussing, yelling or screaming day. We’re all saving that for Sat. at the game……Signing off to pack and leave at 4:00 am for the airport and on to J’ville. Hope to see some of you guys at the Bull Dog club Thur. or the Bar-B-Que Saturday. I’ll just ask around for anybody that blogs on the ajc.com. See Ya!…Lets win, Go Dawgs!

By shane

October 23, 2007 8:24 PM | Link to this

finally,a blog without all the venom,maybe we can be good and play nice.i said earlier in the year that all the young guys may be a blessing when it comes to playing the gators.they might still be dumb enough to have no fear of tebow and company.as for playing king,i think that is a judgement call,play him if you have to,save him if you don’t.that’s a game day decision,no sense in tipping your hand now.how about a fourth quarter surprise.

By mike

October 23, 2007 8:30 PM | Link to this

Hey Barnhart - We have 3 sec wins numnuts. Can you count? Alabama,ole Miss , Vandy.

By Darth Gator

October 23, 2007 8:56 PM | Link to this

I wonder if Washington was talking about taking cheap shots at Tebow. One thing is certain, the Gator team and nation will be watching!

By Don't use CK

October 23, 2007 9:13 PM | Link to this

Unless CK can stop the run…cover receivers…force turnovers and provide decent coaching on D leave the red shirt on him. Unless we wake up and actually find a DC who can put players in position to make plays Adrean Petterson would not make a difference in this game.

By ARdawg

October 23, 2007 9:23 PM | Link to this

Darth

Oh my! The Gator team AND Nation will be watching? What a loser. You take a completely innocent statement made in the spirit of good sportmanshipand try to turn it into something nefarious. Take your childish, Friutloop eating, cowboy boots and spiderman underwear wearing a$$ back to your mothers house

By 98 Dawg

October 23, 2007 9:26 PM | Link to this

Screw you Darth Gayturd, I was thinking our team was talking about playing football not freakin cheap shotting Tebow. I can’t wait to see someone actually get a clean shot on Tebow. Freakin fired up!!!!!Go dawgs!!

By Old Rooster

October 23, 2007 9:37 PM | Link to this

Now that the Dawg’s have a decent running game going I think Mark Richt need to Rent the Movie the Replacements and find out what they put on there Receivers hands so he could catch the ball , what ever it was it worked . If they had about a gallon of that stuff they could beat anybody

                                                                                                              Go dawgs

By Chip Towers

October 23, 2007 9:42 PM | Link to this

One of the cool things about this blog — and I guess blogs in general — is how it becomes whatever you guys want it to be, and I mean that sincerely. I thought about leading with the Caleb King traveling news today but decided it was so insignificant (I’m telling you, unless two or three TBs go down, he’s not playing) I’d just mention it more as an afterthought or secondary note. It’s amazing the interest this kid generates within the Bulldog Nation. The truth is neither you nor I nor anybody save the coaches working with him on the practice fields every day have any idea what he might look like on the college level. Now to answer a couple of you directly on this subject… .

gadawginkalamazoo: King was a highly-ranked “prospect” coming out of high school. That’s all. This is where people go wrong when they say “wasn’t he one of the best in the country?” Those recruiting rankings are at best a hypothesis. He was an exceptional high school back. He’ll probably be a good college player eventually but if he were as great as everybody here seems to think don’t you believe he’d be playing? The lack of faith in a coaching staff that is on track to win 70 games in 7 years and works intently with these kids every day is dumbfounding to me… .

ARDawg: Playing on the scout team, which King has done almost the entire season, is completely different than working with the varsity and preparing for games each week. Most of the time he’s pretending to be the opposing team’s back in practice… .

BigDawg: Richt never said he made a mistake not playing Moreno last season. Not sure where you got that… .

Anyway, that’s how I see it. You may see it differently.

By Zeb McKluskey

October 23, 2007 9:48 PM | Link to this

Man, I understand both sides of this argument. I don’t know which way to go. Part of me wants to see Caleb, the other part wants to keep the shirt on. One thing is for dam sure…….if we can’t contain Tebow, it doesn’t matter if we have LT runnin the ball behind this freakin O-line. I’m so un-impacted by this year that I’m sick to my dam stomach. I’m forever a DAWG, but if there’s not changes a-comin very, very soon, I get the gut feelin that I’m gonna feel this way this time next year. I sure hope not. I for one hope this team makes me a liar this year. We’ll see on Saturday.

By Zeb McKluskey

October 23, 2007 9:48 PM | Link to this

Man, I understand both sides of this argument. I don’t know which way to go. Part of me wants to see Caleb, the other part wants to keep the shirt on. One thing is for dam sure…….if we can’t contain Tebow, it doesn’t matter if we have LT runnin the ball behind this freakin O-line. I’m so un-impacted by this year that I’m sick to my dam stomach. I’m forever a DAWG, but if there’s not changes a-comin very, very soon, I get the gut feelin that I’m gonna feel this way this time next year. I sure hope not. I for one hope this team makes me a liar this year. We’ll see on Saturday.

By Chip Towers

October 23, 2007 10:10 PM | Link to this

Yummm. Crow tastes so good! …

I still don’t think King will play but Carter talked to RBs coach Tony Ball this evening after practice and Ball said he’s seriously considering playing King. Apparently it depends on how he does in practice this week, especially with pass protection… .

Anyway Carter filed a story on it so be sure to click on it see what you think.

By TybeeDawg

October 23, 2007 10:20 PM | Link to this

Hey Buck: There is nothing wrong with TB’s knee

By Denver Dog

October 23, 2007 10:23 PM | Link to this

Bulldog Nation,

Quit whining about this or that. Remember we may not allways win, but we are never losers. So if you have suggestions of how the team should be run, be a real man or woman and send it to Coach Richt, or Damon Evans. I bet you will get a response.

By A-ville Ranger

October 23, 2007 10:41 PM | Link to this

I read the Srickland article where coach Ball indicated King may play saturday.Coach Richt has said he seriously considered playing Moreno last season as late as the UF game.We lost that game by four.Would you trade a year of Knowshon’s eligibility for a win last year ? I can’t say that I wouldn’t…. a ten win season and a win against UF….that’s some strong currency.

By AltamahaDawg

October 23, 2007 10:49 PM | Link to this

ArDawg, now we are on the same page. I’m all for getting Southerland into the plan. I do think that is a way to switch it up a bit. I would think that using a proven commodity like him would be far more effective. We know he can carry out fakes, slip into the flat, or simply take a quick handoff, and do it well. My guess is that fooling the defense only works if you are damn sure you aren’t fooling your own offense in the process. Lets just do what we do, and do it well.

A-Ville I guess that 2 “tailbacks” would cause some confussion, But It seems that most big time defenses in this league are pretty prepared to react quickly, already facing about as many options as o-coordinators can dream up. Not sure if not knowing which one might get the ball really does much. Maybe. I’d rather see 4 receivers than 2 tailback.

Coach Ball is just using smoke and mirrors with those comments, but absolutely leave a question mark out there.

By dawgtired

October 23, 2007 10:57 PM | Link to this

Terrible comments from the players, no respect of history dooms them to repeat it.

Florida goes 16 of 18 if they don’t get their heads right.

By AltamahaDawg

October 23, 2007 10:59 PM | Link to this

A-ville, interesting delimna. (we actually lost by a TD?) The only thing is that we really didn’t need Moreno to win that game or any other last year. (I know you were being hypothetical) We had what we needed, we just didnt do it. If we had played our best but just didn’t have the firepower, would have been one thing. I’m just not sure one more freshman (albeit outstanding) would have cut down the TOs and mistakes, which ultimetely was the ball game.

By AltamahaDawg

October 23, 2007 11:04 PM | Link to this

Is that a man or a women with that Mother of All Mullets?

By Buck in the NW

October 23, 2007 11:37 PM | Link to this

Chip thanks for publicly eating that crow. May I send some sauce fo your Banquet?……Thanks for calling me out to back up my oiginal post. Think a little “atta boy” should e thrown to the North West?..thanks agin from the Norther West.

By A-ville Ranger

October 23, 2007 11:46 PM | Link to this

Altamaha I don’t know about the smoke and mirrors stuff,we’ll have to wait and see.As for what lost last year’s game,granted turnovers killed us.Still points are points and if Moreno had played and accounted for another touchdown,who knows.I said yesterday that CMR should take King to Jax and dress him for action.If Johnson and the fullbacks can get the job done Caleb won’t play,if not though, I think the coaches are serious about keeping an open mind.

By A-ville Ranger

October 24, 2007 12:03 AM | Link to this

Altamaha I missed commenting on putting two tailbacks on the field at once.I was thinking more like Moreno lining up at FB.That would give us a William Andrews type who could be a real option as a runner or receiver(and a good blocker).Call it confusion or just another viable option to occupy the UF defense. I like the idea of throwing something out there to complicate things for the UF defense.The best way to attack is still at their weakness,the corners though.

By Chip is drinking haterade

October 24, 2007 3:48 AM | Link to this

CHIP,

Caleb playing would not be a gimmick, or a short-sighted decision. BOTTOM LINE: Caleb is our 2nd best running back for this game, and will be our third best back for the remainder of the year. JJohnson and Chapas are not even in the same universe as Caleb, knowing the offense or not. I live in Gwinnett County, and I watched Caleb and Brad Lester play for 4 years…believe me, Caleb is much better than Lester (who is Auburn’s current #1 back).

Caleb being our #2 back gives us our best chance to beat Fla..and him being our #3 back gives us our best chance to beat AU, UK, and GT and whoever we play in a bowl game. And don’t forget, Thomas Brown and Lump are gone after this year…Caleb sure could go ahead and use some real playing time now, as opposed to opening up at Ariz St. as his first game next year, where he could see 10-20 carries in that game.

I’m disappointed in you Chip, you should have seen this coming…and even predicted it.

By NatecoreUGA

October 24, 2007 4:02 AM | Link to this

I don’t agree w/ Chip’s logic that King would be playing if the coaches thought he was good enough. The redshirt is to preserve a player when they aren’t needed on the active roster. When the season began they had Thomas Brown who is top 5 on the all time UGA rushing list, another senior in Lumpkin and a RS freshman Moreno. It seems to me the only logic behind why King hasn’t played is depth at the position that is now gone. At the same time the logic could be right b/c the coaches are saying “we want to win,” so if King was ready to play why wasn’t he helping us win against tUSC or Tennessee?

By Buck in the NW

October 24, 2007 5:16 AM | Link to this

TybeeDawg, you’re right my bad. Think I’ll try collarbone and thanks for pointing out my mistake……..Carter’s article dispels some for sure’s posted yesterday. Just one example is the statement that CK had been working with the scout team most of the year. Not true. The article is a good read and that’s why Chip may be getting ready to eat his crow. Tastes so good, his words not mine. We” not know for sure until K.O. but his chances are looking pretty good…….hate these “Red eye” flights”.

By Palmetto State Dawg

October 24, 2007 7:31 AM | Link to this

This is crazy that we might play King this week. It’s not leak we’re undefeated, and trying to win every game. They should not take off his redshirt this far in the season. Play Johnson or Chapas. By the way Chip, what exactly is wrong with Brandon Miller’s calf? Did he pull it? Coach Richt never gave much detail on that injury.

By Atlanta Gator

October 24, 2007 8:09 AM | Link to this

By crs October 23, 2007 12:50 PM | Link to this

This is one of those games where Stafford or Bailey or Moreno can create a legacy a UGA with a big game and big win over our biggest rival Florida. Who was the last UGA quarterback who graduated with a winning record against FL?

By Atlanta Gator October 23, 2007 1:42 PM | Link to this

CRS——The last UGA quarterbck with an overall winning record against Florida was Wayne Johnson. Johnson was the starter for one year in 1988; he was 1-0 against the Gators. Greg Talley was UGA’s starter for the two seasons following (1989-1990); he was 1-1 against the Gators.

By ARdawg October 23, 2007 3:49 PM | Link to this

Atlanta Gator

What is the source of your information? Surely we’ve had a plethora of QB’s thats undefeated against Florida. Prior to 1990 we beat ya’ll forever…..L

ARdawg——My source? Why, it’s www.georgiadogs.com, the official website of the University of Georgia athletic department. And, yes, you are correct that there were many UGA quarterbacks prior to 1990 who had a winning record against UF, but that was not CRS’ question. CRS asked was the LAST UGA quarterback with a winning record against UF. Since 1990, only two Georgia quarterbacks have led UGA in wins over UF: Mike Bobo in 1997 (1-2 against UF) and David Greene in 2004 (1-3 against UF).

FYI, the series record prior to 1990 stood at 43-22-2 in favor of Georgia, but the Gators have narrowed the gap a little bit since then.

History and tradition are important, especially in college football. You can’t know where you’re going or when you get there, if you don’t know where you started.

By AltamahaDawg

October 24, 2007 8:12 AM | Link to this

Buck Im not sure Carter said that right, Not sure how he was working with the varsity when he moved up from the scout team just last week to work with Coach Ball. He was, then he wasnt, then he was practising with the regulars? Either way, I’m not sure what working with the varsity means. The interesting thing to me it that he has not played in a game for over a year now.

By Dave in Tampa

October 24, 2007 8:18 AM | Link to this

Stop Tebow and we win…. Easier said than done though because no one else has figured it out. Let’s hope he is finally going to have an off day. I hate Florida, but I’ll give that kid a lot of respect. He is the best QB in the land right now.

By gdawginkalamazoo

October 24, 2007 8:22 AM | Link to this

Chip, you are preaching to the choir when it comes to “prospects” I think we all remember Jasper Sanks and a hand full of others. I think Carter wrote an excellent article on the matter. Pretty much the point I was trying to make. Can he help us win NOW is the question. And as I mentioned above if he can’t and the coaches see that then let the kid stay RS.

By AltamahaDawg

October 24, 2007 8:26 AM | Link to this

I was sort of surprised yesterday to read that not only was Brown not making the trip to UF , but they didn’t expect he was going to play next week either. I agree if he couldnt play this week, he needs to heal for Auburn. But does Seem like that Collar Bone is not coming along as they had hoped. Might have been some of that “just in case” decision.

Guys, its all fun to talk bout the possibilities of King playing, but its not the backup RB that is the issue. Its the starting everyone else. This is merely a distraction, in the important business of deciding how we are (actually) going to win. Because King or no King, that ain’t the key. It’s sort of a sad commentary when Wednesday before the Ga/Fl game, UGA fans are hanging thier hopes on a freshman that has yet to see a snap.

By gdawginkalamazoo

October 24, 2007 8:44 AM | Link to this

Altadawg, Its all opinions and hypotheticals. Although that last sentence is not what we are focusing on. We all know that in order to win this game the key is stopping Tebow and Harvin from making the important plays,ie, 3rd down stops and keeping those guys off the field. Everyone keeps saying that UF’s corners are suspect? That should be a great matchup with our suspect down field passing game. We also better learn how to tackle before Saturday too. Stay in position on all the plays. I don’t want to see some guy with 20 yards open field around him like in the UT game either. And believe me Myers will have plenty of those plays going Saturday. Of course only 2 or 3 need to work to ruin the day. I don’t think anybody is hoping King is going to be the difference here, I think we are all hoping that the starters are going to get it done.

By George

October 24, 2007 8:45 AM | Link to this

I REALLY hope Caleb King plays so the PATHETIC dawg nation can realize that he is just as overated/overhyped as Stafford was/is.

By GloryGlory

October 24, 2007 8:49 AM | Link to this

Has anyone out there heard rumors about getting rid of Martinez and replacing him with Will Muschamp. I think Muschamp would be the perfect fit for our team. Not only is he a better coach than Martinez, but his fiery style would complement Richt.

By MtnDawg (former TennDawg)

October 24, 2007 9:16 AM | Link to this

Personally, I just think that you can’t try and look into the “crystal ball” and project what or where CK will be in 2,3, or 4 years. If he can help now and if the situation is desperate (injuries as it is now), then you play the kid. If he were to play, he’s not going to get the ball 20 times. It would be more of a breather, as Coach Ball points out. We’ll see.

As for the game itself, yikes! And I consider myself quite the optimist. Florida’s faster, bigger, more aggressive and more experienced/proven. Their D-line lived in KY’s backfield this past weekend and we all know about the Dawgs inexperience up front. In comparison, our front seven haven’t put pressure on anyone.

Believe me, I hope that I am proven completely WRONG come 6:30 Saturday evening, but it’s just what the gut and heart (to my dismay) tell me.

Eiher way, GO DAWGS!!!

MtnDawg (formerly TennDawg - relocated from TN to NC mnts. - thankfully out of Orange town!)

By ARdawg

October 24, 2007 9:20 AM | Link to this

Chip

I was corrected on that invariable fact by a Wes earlier. Perhaps I didn’t phrase my question right but after reading the story by Carter my question was answered. I couldn’t imagine the coaches taking a player from the scout team to insert directly into the Ga/Fl game and in fact he hasn’t been. He has been practicing with the varsity since last week. Personally, I’m not hanging my hat on CK but I wish him a breakout game or a breakout game for somebody. It’s time FL leave J’ville with hat in hand.

Atlanta Gator

Thank you sir. I guess I did not follow that question correctly. i.e.1990 I actually looked on georgiadogs.com but didn’t find an answer

By ARdawg

October 24, 2007 9:29 AM | Link to this

Altamaha

I agree. We’ve used Southerland very sparingly with the ball in his hands. I heard CMR early in the year state that would probably be the case because of the success Southerland had last year that defenses will be looking for him as a weapon. I believe now like I believed then and my response is “So what”? Stop him if you can. I really enjoy watching that kid play.

But back to the game plan, again I think it imperative we get creative out of the backfield, giving the FL defense multiple looks. We have the horses to do it and CK only improves that picture. Of course this is only effective if we establish the passing game early and often

By GrayDawg

October 24, 2007 9:31 AM | Link to this

My GWAD!! none of you Coaches actually played football did you. I agree with Chip leave the RS on. 1. This scheme argument is stupid. You do not scheme a runner you scheme a play. TB, CK, all of them will run the same play the same way the only difference is vision and speed and how do your scheme that? 2. CK is not the fricking second coming. I watched his films, he looks like another TB not a HW. I was more excited about KM then I was about CK. Guys the bottom line is this, for the most part, the blockers make the biggest difference in the result than the runner. Fail to block, loss in the backfield. Receivers fail to block, low avg per carry. Jesus, guys get a fricking life! Go Dawgs

By gdawginkalamazoo

October 24, 2007 9:32 AM | Link to this

MtnDawg (former TennDawg) Congrats on the move. I love NC. Beautiful state that has it all. The key words in your post was more agressive. Is it me or have the dogs look timid at times? I think the reason that Tebow is so good is that he is aggressive every seocnd he is on the field. Always fighting for every inch to advance the ball. He challenges anybody that gets in his way. Moreno is the same way, always trying to move the ball forward and fighting for everything. I don’t want to see our D getting knocked backwards.

By gomdawg

October 24, 2007 9:40 AM | Link to this

IT’S GOING TO BE A DOG DAY AFTERNOON,DOG DAY AFTERNOON,DOG DAY AFTERNOON. COOL !!!!! GO DAWGS. PLAYER FOR PLAYER DAWGS ARE BETTER JUST PLAY LIKE YOU WANT AND IT WILL BE A DOG DAY AFTERNOON.

By Wes

October 24, 2007 9:40 AM | Link to this

Buck,

Not exactly sure where Carter got his information from, but it’s not completely accurate. Caleb HAS spent the majority of the season on the scout team. He was brought up to varsity the week after Vanderbilt, knowing that TB wasn’t going to play against UF.

Two weeks of practice w/ the varsity is better than one, but still, it’s only two weeks of practice to prepare for what is basically the biggest game of the season…and after not seeing any kind of field (high school or college) for almost a year and a half.

By Wes

October 24, 2007 9:49 AM | Link to this

ARdawg,

I completely agree with your comment about Southerland. That would be like Houston Nutt saying, “well, everybody knows McFadden is good, so we’re not gonna use him as much this year”…doesn’t really make sense. If he’s a playmaker, let him make plays until people stop him.

Somebody said something about “smoke and mirrors” with Caleb this week, and I hope you’re right. Give the impression that all we’re going to do in the running game is what we’ve done with Knowshon and TB to this point, let Knowshon get his 20 carries, and in between, pound Southerland for 3 and 4 yards a pop with quick hitters until they shut him down. You’ve got to think that Richt and Bobo are thowing some kind of wrinkles into the schemes, and not just the personnel.

By AltamahaDawg

October 24, 2007 9:50 AM | Link to this

Ardawg, correct , so what?, stop him if you can. I dont think you fool or confuse anyone for very long in this league, but I’d say you can try to get mismatches. Ky seemed to have great success in the short passing game. Fortunetely we can do that pretty well.

A-ville, Moreno is having a great year this year. He is bigger stronger, faster, and a lot smarter now then this time last year I’m sure we can all agree. He has all of 3 TD through 7 games in which he has been used extensively. I think the chances he could have come in, 9th game of the year, huge rivalry, as a true freshman, in a back-up role, and been responsible for that one more TD we needed last yr against Fl is pretty remote. (but maybe if he had been the ball carrier for 2 plays only, to start the 3rd quarter, and NOT fumbled, it would have been worth it…….sorry Lump, that still baffles me)

By ARdawg

October 24, 2007 9:57 AM | Link to this

Wes

As I stated earlier, I don’t see CK as being the impact kind of player if he does get some carries in this game. There is always that chance but that chance is slim. Your statement might lead one to believe that King isn’t ready to play and thats just not true. He has been practicing, working out and learning the playbook. It’s not as if he’s been sitting on his backside eating Cheetos. Two weeks with the varsity? I’d look for him in blocking situations and decoys and with that he’s liable to get a couple of carries. Whether it’s a good choice or not I’ll leave to the coaches, but it’s not too early to be thinking about seasoning some players for next year

By MtnDawg (former TennDawg)

October 24, 2007 9:58 AM | Link to this

gdawginkalamazoo - thanks and yes NC is a great place. Couldn’t agree more on Tebow and his aggressive play. He fights for every inch, every play, regardless of the score. I think UF as a team feeds off of his effort and puts forth the same committment as well. That’s what you call being a “spark” or continuosly “lighting one’s fire”. Seven games into our season and I still just don’t see that from our guys or coaches for that matter. It not THE difference maker in W’s and L’s, but it IS a major contributor. IF both of the Dawgs lines play aggressive AND smart, I think they can hang. If one or the other doesn’t show up, we will get behind quick or won’t be able to put enough points on the board. As I said in my earlier post, I hope that come Saturday evening I am WRONG!

Be good and GO DAWGS!!!

By ARdawg

October 24, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this

Wes

Agreed on Southerland. We need the ball in his hand at least a dozen times or more. His been primarily a blocking back and personally I think thats a waste of talent. Mixing the totes up between him and Moreno has the potential of keeping the FL defense on it’s heels but I reinterate it relies on establishing the pass early and often

By gdawginkalamazoo

October 24, 2007 10:12 AM | Link to this

MtnDawg, I think that spark for us is Moreno and the way he plays the game. Unfortunately it hasn’t really ignited anybody else to step it up to his level of intensity. Maybe this will be the week.

By Dawgs will lose

October 24, 2007 10:14 AM | Link to this

King wont make a difference! Dawgs are way in trouble because they have been overated for awhile. The offense compares to little leauge, plays VERY VANILLA. The deffense is too small for SEC Competition . People here think that the two weeks off will help the dawgs, Thats a joke ! the dawgs have been preparing for the mighty Gators for the last 17 years and still cant get it done! Fla wins BIG! take it to the BANK!!!!!

By shane

October 24, 2007 10:25 AM | Link to this

will caleb play?i hope not,i hope we don’t need him!i don’t think we can stop tebow either,lsu didn’t,and they have one of the best defenses in the country.that puts us in the position of having to keep the ball out of his hands,but playing keep-a-way isn’t enough,we have to score on the ends of those long drives.penalties,dropped passes,overthrown balls,and missed blocks won’t get it done.we have to score!use moreno and the short passing game to open it up for the long ball,then put the ball on target.uf likes to score quickly,the cover two should slow them down.the lbs will have to stay at home and plug the gaps,don’t chase the ball on all those misdirections.uf loves the end around,and we get burned on it every time.if we bite on one saturday we will be burned for six,uf has the fastest wrs in the country.

By ARdawg

October 24, 2007 10:32 AM | Link to this

DWL

Why don’t you get up real early on Sunday morning and see if the www.fireUrbanMeyer.com website is up and running yet?

By ARdawg

October 24, 2007 10:36 AM | Link to this

Shane

Good assessment. Mind if I add I add “For Gawd sakes …tackle!”?

By godawgs51

October 24, 2007 10:54 AM | Link to this

It is dissapointing to read all of these dismal comments by the “georgia faithful” who have seemingly given up hope for this game. Florida has been beaten twice this year, the same as the dawgs. They are beatable, especially in a year such as this. I hope this pathetic attitude isn’t brought by our fans to jacksonville. Be loud and show some faith. Go Dawgs!

By ARdawg

October 24, 2007 11:05 AM | Link to this

godawgs51

Those naysayers aren’t Dawg fans. For the most part those on this blog are the faithful, each with our own ideas of how this victory can be successful. We may not all agree on how to achieve it but we do all agree on it can and should be done.

By noyellowinthisblood

October 24, 2007 11:30 AM | Link to this

Our problem on D is the front four. You can play a 2 or 3 zone if the front four can get pressure on the QB. Unfortunately we haven’t gotten enough pressure this year and there are always pockets that are exposed in the zone. Offensively we just need to block more consistently and catch better. As far as Southerland, he definetly needs more touches out of the backfield. He is one of those backs that always gains a little extra after the first hit.

By godawgs51

October 24, 2007 11:30 AM | Link to this

Is it saturday yet? Go Dawgs!!!

By DawgPile

October 24, 2007 11:37 AM | Link to this

ugay will come crashing to reality with a beating from Florida. You are way over-rated and will soon be out of the BCS for good. Enjoy the last few days of this week’s ratings.

After the beat down by Florida, there are many losses left on your schedule. Maybe you can go to Boise to play on the ‘blue carpet’ bowl?

By gdawginkalamazoo

October 24, 2007 11:38 AM | Link to this

godawgs51, being one of the faithful who bleeds red and black, I can tell you that IMO the Dawgs can beat anybody on any given Saturday. Period. Down year, up year, young team, veteran team, it doesn’t matter we can win on any Saturday.

By ARdawg

October 24, 2007 11:40 AM | Link to this

Noyellow

Thats true. I’d like to see him get a few short screens as well. He hits so much harder in a trot.

By noyellowinthisblood

October 24, 2007 11:51 AM | Link to this

GDAWG- I couldn’t agree more. If we get the right schemes in and execute we win. F@#k the gaytors. We will raise a pair of jean shorts up the flagpole in celebration.

By Spike

October 24, 2007 12:13 PM | Link to this

I say keep the red shirt on King. What we need is the O line to play the game of their lives and let Stafford have time to throw and run block for Moreno. The D line needs to stop Tebow. You stop him from running and ring his bell you can stop the Gators. Throw to Mo Mass and Durham. With a little luck and Couto we have a chance. But for the love of Pete and my sanity, let’s grow a pair and BEAT THE GATORS!!!

By Atlanta Gator

October 24, 2007 12:23 PM | Link to this

ARdawg——On the Georgiadogs.com history page, there is a link to a list of starters at each position by season. It’s a good website——Enjoy.

FYI, most of the Gators good history and trivia is buried in PDF file excerpts from the Gator media guide on Gatorzone.com.

Good luck, fellas.

By 1eyedJack

October 24, 2007 12:27 PM | Link to this

Everyone who is saying how great Caleb King is are basing that opinion on what? His junior year in high school? Come on. What are you going to say about him if he’s put in a critical situation and fumbles to cost us the game? You’re going to say what was Coach Richt thinking. One thing we tend to forget in our zealousnous is that this is not the NFL. These are not pro athletes. These are STUDENT-athletes. I seem to remember that there was a lot of speculation during the recruiting process that Caleb might not have the academics to get admitted to UGA. I would hope that Coach Richt and Coach Ball are as concerned for this kid as a person as much or more than they are concerned for his athletic abilities. This kid’s life and future are more important than one ballgame. I say keep the redshirt on him and let him get his academics in order. Give him a chance to get ahead of the game as far as academic progress or the whole argument about whether he will be here 3 years or 5 will be a moot point-he will be academically ineligible. Does anybody remember Pulpwood Smith?

By Nate

October 24, 2007 12:30 PM | Link to this

Altahama

Sorry to respond so late. I honestly forgot I had made that post yesterday about Caleb King leaving early. I think you misunderstand me. My point is this: King will need 3 full years(3 active years) to be established enough as a runner to be able to leave early. Especially sharing the backfield with a kid like Moreno. Once again, I admit this is all opinion. Obviously I don’t know what will happen. I strongly think though that King will leave after he has played three full years…either way you look at it that is after the 2010 season. My point is this…I would rather have him play 3 and a half than just 3! Make sense?

By BLITZ FEST

October 24, 2007 12:39 PM | Link to this

Chip Towers:

When I stated that the Dawgs should go after Tebow’s shoulder you said:

(1) It doesn’t get any more low class than that and

(2) The players in the SEC move too fast to hit anyone where they want to.

Then you quote Marcus Washington saying “We know [Tebow] has a dinged-up shoulder. We’ll try to ding it up for him a little more.”

SO, Washington is (1) Washington and the rest of the Georgia defense he was referring to are as low class as it gets and (2) unlike you, he plays in the SEC and he believes the defensive players can hit Tebow’s shoulder.

By A-ville Ranger

October 24, 2007 12:47 PM | Link to this

Buck Sorry I didn’t get back with you before now but I wanted to make sure first.My brother called last night and he’s got a work emergency so he has to cut the trip short.It looks like we’re just doing a drive down and back so we won’t have time to do much other than catch the game.If we don’t meet up this trip maybe I’ll catch you out that way.I plan on taking a kayak trip along the channel islands in the next year or so.Anyway, I hope your trip goes well and the Dawgs get a win…..Altamaha we don’t know how much Moreno may have played or how much difference he may have made if he’d played in last year’s game.As far as him being a different back than last year.I watched game video of him in HS and he was pretty much the same back he is now.I think the game it may have made the bigger difference in is this year’s SC game.If he’d come into the season with 70 or so carries he may have been better prepared for that game.That brings me back to Caleb,I know I’m in a small minority but it might be good to have another talented back with game experience heading into next season.As far as burning the redshirt,if I was coach Richt it’d come down to whether I thought he could help the team this season,if so I’d play him.

By AltamahaDawg

October 24, 2007 12:52 PM | Link to this

Nate yes, indeed. You are different than others , as I beleive they are saying we need to beat the clock by playing him now, and my point, and yours is that you arent doing that, just starting the clock at diferent times,. In your case, you are actually picking up a senior year, which I dont beleive was others case.

By TheItaliandawg

October 24, 2007 1:04 PM | Link to this

I tell you what Georgia should do, stack up the line of scrimmage and let Tebow beat us with his arm. be physical, whatever it takes Georgia should minimize the rushing threat of Florida. The bottom line is if Florida ran all over Georgia, Mareniz should be fired!!

By gator the dog catcher

October 24, 2007 1:05 PM | Link to this

The funniest thing I’ve seen in a long time!!!! “UGAy’s dominance in the series” pictures …. THEY WERE ALL IN BLACK AND WHITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I guess Florida has all of the colored pictures featuring dominance in this series.

My eyes got dust in them just from looking at those old arse pictures!

By shane

October 24, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this

ar,amen on the tackling,we have some fast linebackers that sometimes overrun the play.this allows lanes for the rb to cut back against the grain.our lbs have to reach back to make a play and can’t square up on the rb.that’s why i say they have to stay home.tebow will run through,and percy will run by,arm tackles.square up and wrap up should be our motto for this game.we cannot put eight in the box to stop tebow’s running.they have 4 and 5 star wrs.i don’t think our dbs can cover these guys one on one.we have to stop the run with our front seven.we can possibly bring a safety into the hole in the middle to play center field and stop the draw play,if we have a guy that reads the formation well.hopefully our dbs watched a lot of film in that off week.washington being back should shore up our soft middle,a timely blitz may help,but we have to be careful because tebow is so strong that even a solid hit by a lb or safety may not bring him down,and he is good at getting the ball out.blitzing could get us burned badly.

By ARdawg

October 24, 2007 1:14 PM | Link to this

Intentionally trying to inflict a damaging injury on any player on the field is unconscienable. Sometimes the smack talk gets out of hand and other times misconstrued. In any event I can’t rationally believe a Georgia Bulldog or any other player at the college level tries to hurt another player. Hit’em hard, grind them into the turf, punish them physically, but never intentionally hurt somebody. I don’t believe even after the game win or lose any Dawg or Dawg fan wants Tebow or any other Florida player hurt. Washington made a statement he strongly believes and rightfully so. Hopefully he can make a difference in Tebows shoulder. All in the spirit of good sportmanship of course

By ARdawg

October 24, 2007 1:24 PM | Link to this

Shane

I’m with you. Blitzing Tebow has been ineffective for the most part. I’ve noticed when TT picks up a blitz he’ll change plays and run the option. Thats been a pretty good counter to the blitz. The up lineman need to bring him down when he does run and stay in his face in the backfield. I don’t know if our linemen have the power to pull that off. I hope they do. I’m also agree the entire secondary stays home for pass coverage. If Tebow has a place to throw it, he’s as good as any in the country to get it there.

By gdawginkalamazoo

October 24, 2007 1:46 PM | Link to this

gtdc, there you are. We were all tired of seeing your picture on the web page home page under the “Mother of All Mullets” headline. Nice T-Bone tattoo too I might add.

By gdawginkalamazoo

October 24, 2007 1:54 PM | Link to this

Hopefully Washington won’t be run over by Tebow, that might make for an ugly scene. BTW, isn’t Washington the one with a shoulder injury also?

By Wes

October 24, 2007 2:20 PM | Link to this

Zoo,

Yeah, washington has a dinged up shoulder too. The whole comment he made has been completely twisted around by the media (imagine that.) I think it may have been on the Macon Telegraph where they showed the rest of his quote and he even acknowledges that he has a hurt shoulder and said he fully expects Florida to try to “ding him up a little more” just like we’ll try to do to Tebow.

By AltamahaDawg

October 24, 2007 2:37 PM | Link to this

Man am I glad to finally see a few folks not saying blitzing was the answer to everything. Obviously there are times to. I’ll have to disagree with Italiandog. We need to defend that deep ball, and keep it all in front. I know, I know. Its not glorious, its not bravado. But we are what we are on defense. Make Teebow run it. I dont think he is at his best, we might give up some yards, but make him grind it out is he wants to move the ball. UF has proven to be the most dangerous when they can get you crowded up and dump it 12 yards deep and turn it into a big one. I think that the best play.

By AltamahaDawg

October 24, 2007 2:39 PM | Link to this

I meant…..thats thier best play.

By gdawginkalamazoo

October 24, 2007 2:51 PM | Link to this

Wes, thanks. Go figure that the fine writers at the AJC will only include the immflamatory part of the quote. I kinda thought Washington probably said somehting about his own shoulder hurting otherwise his quote isn’t something Richt would appreciate too much.

By gdawginkalamazoo

October 24, 2007 2:51 PM | Link to this

Wes, thanks. Go figure that the fine writers at the AJC will only include the immflamatory part of the quote. I kinda thought Washington probably said somehting about his own shoulder hurting otherwise his quote isn’t something Richt would appreciate too much.

By Wes

October 24, 2007 3:11 PM | Link to this

This is an exerpt from the article in the Macon Telegraph:

*”Washington will be returning to his starting middle linebacker spot after missing two games due to a shoulder injury, and he doesn’t think the Gators will have any sympathy on him.

“‘I expect the same thing (Tebow will get),’ he said.”*

By ARdawg

October 24, 2007 3:20 PM | Link to this

Altamaha

I love watching good defenses blitz. Tebow has an answer for it and almost made LSU pay but as you know they got away with it. Auburn a team normally blitz happy didn’t overdue it against FL. Some teams/QBs can’t take a steady hard blitz. Tebow is different. Contain his run and make him throw it into coverage. He can hit the open man but the heavy coverage gives him problems

By Big Dawg

October 24, 2007 3:47 PM | Link to this

Wes,

Carter got his information first hand as he has been watching Georgia’s practices from the very beginning. As far as Caleb King is concerned he has been getting some snaps since the week before the Western Carolina game with the 1st and 2nd string offense plus working on the scout team against the 1st team defense. King has been very impressive when given the chance and as Coach Ball stated if King shows he can consistently make blocks he will be used Saturday. Now as for those talking about Southerlan I agree we haven’t utilized him enough so far but some of that was because of the issues with the OL and with our receivers dropping so many balls. Anyway we will all have to wait and see Saturday if he gets into the game. As several of you have said here’s hoping that we won’t need him.

Go Dawgs

By Wes

October 24, 2007 4:47 PM | Link to this

So “some snaps” makes him game-ready for Florida?

Fact of the matter is, he primarily was practicing with the special teams for the first two to three games of the season because his “head was still spinnging” (direct quote from Coach Ball) and Kalvin Daniels was taking the bulk of the scout team handoffs. He started getting most of the scout team work around the time of the WC/Ala games because he was making some impressive runs against 1st D and has been doing so since. Up until last week (October 18th was the last practice) Caleb was still running with the scout team in the scrimages that Coach Richt had them running at the end of practice.

Bottom line, he hasn’t practiced with the first team until this week…I’m sorry, “some snaps” does not count as practicing with the varsity….I’m sure Carter has seen some practices, but I have my sources too.

By ARdawg

October 24, 2007 4:51 PM | Link to this

I can see an advantage to using King a little later in the game. Maybe 2nd quarter for a couple of carries and then throughout the remainder as a decoy and to platoon Moreno. I would be very surprised to win this game on the ground. We’ve got to keep it mixed with a good balance and be effective in the air and on the ground. It’s going to be won on Moreno’s legs and Staffords arm. But I suppose that goes without saying

By Dawgs will lose

October 24, 2007 5:21 PM | Link to this

AR dawg…… I will be here Sunday morning telling you and the rest of bulldawg nation not to fire your DC after Mr Tebow shreds the puppies Mickey Mouse Defense. The dawgs aint no LSU either I might add ,so go ahead and just try to Blitz and Tebow will make the Tenn Loss look like a friendly Sunday afternoon backyard football game!Tebow is a MAN compared to the boys of uga. He aint complaining about his shoulder either. Matt Stafford aint in the same league!!!! Save the King or play him it wont matter either way !!! Gooooo GATORS!!!!

By ARdawg

October 24, 2007 6:01 PM | Link to this

DWL

Careful there BIGGIN! You might be letting your mouth write a check your Gators ain’t going to be able to back up. Also, Do I detect a little “man-love” for Tebow on your part? You seem mighty sweet on the young lad.

By Dawgs will lose

October 24, 2007 6:25 PM | Link to this

ARdawg…. Let me clue you in on something that you pea brain can or may comprehend. I guarantee a Gator victory and you can take that to the BANK! Why dont you Man-love Your Spooning QB… seems he is pretty good at that than putting touch on his passes! Now go find some tickets to the Champs Sports bowl or Music SHiLLy Bowl that is if the puppies will get 6 Victories!

By Atlanta Gator

October 25, 2007 8:42 AM | Link to this

“Dawgs will lose”——Unless you happen to be Joe Namath, guaranteeing a victory is bad karma, Gator fan. Don’t jinx it!

By ARdawg

October 25, 2007 9:51 AM | Link to this

DWL

It’s relatively obvious from your post that you are an immature, angry little man. Just remember little feller, The Gators aren’t guaranteed 7 wins either. There is a reason they actually PLAY the game.

By WS

October 25, 2007 4:56 PM | Link to this

wouldn’t it be great if this were a coming out party for king like knoxville was for another ga. back?