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DEL.ICIO.USIs Tebow vs. Stafford even close?
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
It’s Georgia-Florida week. Can you believe it’s already here? Given the way the season got started, who would have thought this would actually be a meaningful game? Say what you will about who will be favored and who has the better team, etc. The two teams have the exact same record and it means the exact same to both, so that in itself makes it an intriguing matchup. CBS certainly thinks so.
Anyway, no sense in holding off on the good stuff for this week’s discussions. Let’s cut right to the chase: Who do you think is best quarterback, Florida’s Tim Tebow or Georgia’s Matthew Stafford? The two blue-chippers were ranked 1, 2 or 3 in the nation — remember Mitch Mustain? — coming out of high school depending on which Internet recruiting service you believe. How would you rank them now?
To make this discussion a little less cut-and-dry, let me add the stipulation of “not just now, but now and into the future.” In other words, who will have the biggest upside in the NFL as well.
I say that because Tebow is the obvious and easy pick for the here and now. Entering the eighth game of their sophomore seasons, Tebow has by far the better stats and quite clearly has been on a better team. As the No. 1 player in the nation in pass efficiency, he has proven he’s much more than a fullback playing quarterback. He’s has thrown often, he has thrown deep and he has thrown with incredible accuracy, none of which you can really say of Stafford.
However, I am of the opinion you have to take into account the team around these players and the systems the respective programs run. Would Stafford have similar numbers to Tebow if he were in the Gators’ system behind that line and surrounded by those athletes? Conversely, would Tebow be all the rage if he were piloting Georgia’s tailback-oriented system behind a shaky line featuring three freshmen?
I realize these are hypothetical and very subjective questions. But, come on, this is a blog! So let’s keep the discussion to Xs and Os and thoughtful observations and leave out the team fanaticism and see if we can find some kind of a consensus. By the way, www.secsports.com is conducting a poll this week on who fans think is the best quarterback in the SEC East — don’t forget, Erik Ainge is prettty darn good in his own right — so be sure to go over there and share your opinions.
For what it’s worth, Carter Strickland and I will be writing much more on Tebow versus Stafford this week. Let us know what else you’re interested in reading about before Saturday’s game in Jacksonville.
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By ChampDawg
October 22, 2007 1:56 PM | Link to this
Stafford is a whimp. He may have a “good arm” but he’s not even in the top 5 among SEC quarterbacks. He’s way overrated. The evidence is already in. Is there an SEC qurterback be have faced this year that didn’t outplay Stafford? And Tebow and Woodson will really show him up.
By luvmydawgs
October 22, 2007 2:00 PM | Link to this
I think at this day Tebow is better..oh but I HATE that Gaydor..all the jumping, kissing, and running around after a play makes me sick. BUT I think Matt will have a better pro career. He, with age, will become more dependable, and hopefully will have a stronger O line which is what I think is hindering this team this year.
By Crosby
October 22, 2007 2:00 PM | Link to this
I think this is a very simple choice. Teebow pretty much invented football in some people’s eyes. He is by far the better QB right now and projects better to. I say this only because Stafford has shown little ability outside of four or five games to be a consistent winner at the college level. If you can’t be a consistent winner in college then you aren’t going to project in the NFL either. However, this could all change in two seasons. By their senior years Stafford could very well be the top choice. I have seen little or nothing to show me otherwise right now though. Also, everybody watch Saturday how many times Vern brings up Teebow even when he’s not on the field. CBS has only had one other love affair like this when they were in love with Greene and Pollack. Who’s turn is it to do the dish’s?
By kill shot
October 22, 2007 2:02 PM | Link to this
Come on Chip, even the pre-season magazines said Stafford was the “best” in the whole league, not just better than Tebow. We know it’s true, watch Stafford and the dawgs give the Gator’s the death blow saturday in J’ville.
By tim
October 22, 2007 2:04 PM | Link to this
I don’t think that either will be huge successes in the NFL. Tebow is already getting banged up by college players. The pros would kill him. I don’t think he will be half as effective if he didn’t have the players around him. Definetely having more success than Stafford so far in college due in large part on his ability to run the ball. Stafford has the better arm so he would have more of an upside. He won’t make a good NFL qb unless he throws the deep ball better and stops throwing off his back foot. JMO. GO dawgs
By kill shot
October 22, 2007 2:05 PM | Link to this
Stafford by a long shot! Watch the dawgs give the Gator’s the death blow this weekend in J’ville!
By sonny
October 22, 2007 2:06 PM | Link to this
I will take Stafford’s potential over Tebow’s any day of the week. UF plays a system that doesn’t relate to the NFL at all. Tebow will not be able to take the ball and run straight up the middle in the NFL. Tebow will throw a duck 50% of the time. Stafford has the cannon and will continue to improve before the 2009 draft. Tebow may want to come out early (while his stock is still high) before teams figure out how to stop a QB draw.
By Mike
October 22, 2007 2:06 PM | Link to this
Thank you Captain Obvious! What was even the purpose of this article? There is not a college football fan in the nation who would think Stafford should even be mentioned in the same sentence with Tebow. I hate and despise the Gators but I have to give the kid his due. He is unstoppable, and he will have a record day against my Dawgs.
Mike
By BC
October 22, 2007 2:07 PM | Link to this
ChompDawg is right-Stafford is a wimp (sp?). A wimp that will end his college career in 2 years with around 38 wins, if not more. Total wimp.
By wil walton
October 22, 2007 2:09 PM | Link to this
Only time will tell. Kudos to Tebow, he’s a tremendous athlete AND passer. Here’s hoping that Stafford will finish out his career with a better resume.
By John
October 22, 2007 2:11 PM | Link to this
Is this really a question?
By Skeptical Dawg
October 22, 2007 2:11 PM | Link to this
I hate to say it, but your hypothetical scenario is probably true. If Tim Teabag was a dawg, he’d be looking about as average as grits (see Stafford). And vice versa if Stafford was a gaytor. It’s a sad reflection on our oft-unprepared, unimaginative coaching, in my opinion. Time will tell if that theory holds true. I’m sure we’ll get a chance to see them both play on Sundays.
By Al
October 22, 2007 2:12 PM | Link to this
Georgia can not beat Florida because of two reasons.
our defense will spot them to many points in the first half. ( look at the past two years) (ga’s defensive co, can not coach an entire game, he either wins the first half or the second, but rarely the complete game).
the offense will not be able to catch up and win. ( Bobo’s play calling is to inconsistant from game to game and the opponent seems to be able to always figure out what we are doing.
Stafford is good, but he is over rated, he will be a better pro qback than a collge one. The pro’s will know how to coach him.
Tebow is the best qb in college football, no one can do all that he does and still play… he is tough, he is leader, and he get things done, he is a winner….. this is coming from a ga fan…
good luck dawgs, you will need it, if all the players played with Moreno’s spark we would win them all…………
By DawgsRulz
October 22, 2007 2:14 PM | Link to this
Right now it’s obviously Tebow, but a lot has to do with his supporting cast. He has a very good oline and playmakers all over the place. In the future it’s Stafford. Tebow is not fast enough to be the same type of qb at the next level. I think both guys will be fine NFL QBs, but I believe Stafford will be the better of the term in the long run.
By Clint
October 22, 2007 2:17 PM | Link to this
Tebow’s success is a result of the offense he runs. He will have to move to fullback to have any shot at the NFL. Anyone can complete a high % of passes when all you do is throw screens. Stafford will be the next in the long line of UGA players, who will be better pros than they ever were in college. If I’m the GM of a NFL team, I draft Stafford. I don’t draft Tebow.
By Atlanta Gator
October 22, 2007 2:17 PM | Link to this
Okay, the Jacksonville Convention treaty is now suspended, so let the Gators-Dawgs smack-talk begin … .
First things first: the name of the game. Originally, Dawgs called it the Georgia-Florida game; then the Gators called it the Florida-Georgia game. After that, everyone called it the “World’s Largest Outdoor Cocktail Party,” but unfortunately, that name has officially passed into history. Now, my UGA buddies just call it “the Holocaust.”
What’s in a Name, Part II: Let’s just agree that whichever team wins the game this year, their school name goes first in the order (i.e. the Florida-Georgia game). Tony Barnhart and Chip Towers, time to update the AJC style book.
But what have you done for me lately? Georgia still leads the overall series record, but the head-to-head record is really 45-37-2, or an 8-game UGA advantage through the 2006 season. The UGA athletic department claims the overall record is 46-37-2, or a 9-game advantage. The difference? UGA’s athletic department claims a 1904 win over an East Florida Seminary club football team (i.e. non-varsity, non-university sanctioned team). Nice. You doubt me? Really? Look it up for yourself——the University of Florida did not exist under its present name until 1905, did not hold classes in Gainesville until 1906, and did not have a varsity football team that played the Bulldogs until 1915. Who’s stretching the truth to claim the extra win? Well, it seems a little churlish to claim the extra win, but I’ll let you be the fair-minded judge. In nine years, it won’t matter anyway …
The “Mythical” National Championships? The Gators have won 2 national football championships on the field (1996-97 vs. FSU; 2006-07 vs. Ohio State), and played for a third (1995-96 vs. Nebraska), during the BCS/Bowl Alliance era. The Dawgs’ athletic department claims 2 consensus polling championships (1942 & 1980), and acknowledges at least one polling service “championship” among the multitude of football polls in the pre-Associated-Press-Poll-dominant era for three other seasons (1927, 1946 & 1968), but none since 1980. Likewise, the Gators could claim a New York Times Poll championship in 1984, but do not.
The Conference Championships? The Gators have won seven SEC conference championships (1991, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 2000, 2006), played in two more SEC championship games (1992 & 1999), and also had the best SEC records for two other seasons (1984 & 1990). During that same time period, the Dawgs have won two SEC championships on the field during the championship game era (2002 & 2005), and previously won 10 more (1942, 1946, 1948, 1959, 1966, 1968, 1976, 1980, 1981 & 1982), three of which were shared titles with Tennessee or Alabama (1946, 1966 & 1981).
The Heisman Trophy? Two apiece for the Gators and the Dawgs. For UGA, Frank Sinkwich won the award in 1942 and Herschel Walker in 1982. For the Gators, the Evil Genius won in 1966 and Danny Wuerffel in 1996.
The SAT scores, for the record: UGA 25th-75th percentiles, 1130-1320; UF 25th-75 percentiles, 1140-1360. Gator freshman are apparently better standardized test takers.
U.S. News & World Report Best Colleges rankings? Florida is ranked 49th among 124 first-tier national universities; UGA is ranked 59th.
Football graduation rates? Most recent (1996-1999) NCAA graduation success rate (GSR) for UF is 80%; UGA’s most recent GSR is 41%. The NCAA GSR tracks the academic progress of freshman scholarship athletes for the 6 school years after enrollment, so the current 1996-1999 GSRs are actually current through the 2006 graduation year. BTW, the Gator basketball team had a 100% NCAA GSR during the same time period.
Best obnoxious white-shoe-polish-on-the-car-window taunt: “You have to win one to call it a rivalry.”
Okay, smack-talkers … have at it. Let the annual games begin.
Gator the Dog Catcher, where are you?
By ozzfest
October 22, 2007 2:22 PM | Link to this
Funny how they are the same size, yet Tebow runs over linebackers and the best Staffy can do is throw it to them. Never the less, Go Dogs!
By Zeb McKluskey
October 22, 2007 2:22 PM | Link to this
Stats, Schmats…..Tebow is a very good QB. Got to give it to you Gators this year. I don’t know what the hell is up with our offense right now but it’s definitely not what we thought it would be. I just hope Matt can be the guy we thought he would be. Call me a pessimist, but we may not win a game from here on out. I’m Georgia thru and thru, but dam, something is wrong. I’m a homer, but not a blind one. If we want to be thought of as a national power then we need to have a different mindset. We don’t put people away. We don’t dominate. Coach Richt is an awesome person and a very good coach. I just don’t know what’s going on with our program right now. I’ll always be a DAWG, but I’m not a happy dawg right now. Like a fine wine, it should get better over time. This team has the talent and the athletes to do that, but has come up short. You make me sad. Come Patsy. Let us away.
By DWG
October 22, 2007 2:23 PM | Link to this
So let’s get this straight. Basically Chip’s saying it’s obvious Tebow is better than Stafford but maybe if Stafford was on a better team he’d be as good as Tebow. Wow. Killed 2 dawgs with 1 stone there. So here’s where were at: Stafford - not good. Stafford’s team - even worse. I didn’t know our own beat writer could supply us some bulletin board material.
By rob
October 22, 2007 2:25 PM | Link to this
The evidence is not in at all. Tebow is in an offense that is created for him and his success. The Gators receivers are fast and don’t drop the ball. Stafford can’t be compared because Georgia isn’t impressive this year. I will be interested to see how the two measure up the next two years. Tebow has shown what his game is all about, Stafford has yet to consistently bring a good game every week. That comes down to coaching. These guys need to execute like UF does every week. If I see that, I will be able to make a comparison.
By Atlanta Gator
October 22, 2007 2:26 PM | Link to this
As of October 22, 2007, it’s no contest: Tebow head and shoulders above Stafford. Statistically, it’s not even a worthy comparison, and on the field, Tebow makes things happen that Stafford can’t. In fairness to Stafford, he’s not a double threat quarterback, and he spends too much time on the ground looking at the sky or the grass owing to his inexperienced and lackluster O-line. With better linemen in front of him, and fewer butter-fingered receivers, Stafford would give Tebow a run for his money.
We’re going to see these two place against each other at least twice, maybe three times more, so enjoy the fireworks.
By sonny
October 22, 2007 2:27 PM | Link to this
I think Tebow will have a big slice of humble pie when it comes draft day. Think Brady Quinn had to wait long? Tebow might not want to be there in person waiting for the third round.
By shane
October 22, 2007 2:28 PM | Link to this
so far the edge goes to tebow.i have read about all the hard work he put in this summer,like raising his bench press total to 400lbs,as strong as most d linemen in college and stronger than most lbs.he also used computer graphics to improve his throwing motion and overall mechanics.stafford had put on a lot of weight and had to work and diet just to get back into shape.i think tebow has outworked stafford and it shows.however,i think tebow has just about reached his peak,while stafford has a much greater up side.this might make stafford more appealing to the pros.if stafford will put in an off season like tebow did he will be an all american next year,for now,tebow is the better qb,but it is due more to pure hard work than raw talent.
By georgiagirl49
October 22, 2007 2:28 PM | Link to this
I agree with Als comments. We need a miracle
By Just one opinion
October 22, 2007 2:29 PM | Link to this
If we were to compare these two QB’s to alcohol, (sorry Prez Adams for the politically incorrect metaphor), Tim Tebow would be a shot of everclear and Stafford would be a bottle of a French 1745 wine. Tebow is strong, will hurt your throat, and will leave you not remembering what happened the day before. But his effect is quick and short-term. Body cannot handle him. Stafford shows more potential, but takes time to age into a sublime product that goes down smooth and one can savor for quite some time. The keepers of the vineyard, however, are p**’ in bottle to water these grapes. Right now though, everybody in college football wants a shot of eveclear.
By condog
October 22, 2007 2:30 PM | Link to this
tebow is a great college quarterback. stafford will be a very good nfl quarterback. tebow’s only chance in the NFL is at tightend or fullback. he will never make it in the nfl as a passer.
By Doug
October 22, 2007 2:32 PM | Link to this
I think Stafford would be equally effective as Tebow has been with the Gators. Bottom line is the Coach Richt and staff should be ashamed of themselves for the supporting cast they have surrouned Stafford with and should be held accountable!
By Mark
October 22, 2007 2:33 PM | Link to this
As hard as it is for me to say, at this point Tebow wins the race running away. Not only is he a physical specimen, but he can actually hit the deep ball. I think Stafford is ultra talented, but seriously, how many more times will he over-throw the deep ones? If he could somehow bottle the touch he showed on the pass to Mikey at T’loosa, he would be well on his path to catching Tebow.
By travy
October 22, 2007 2:35 PM | Link to this
tebow is this generation’s herschel…
By Michael
October 22, 2007 2:35 PM | Link to this
Tebow is doing better right now but in the long run I think Stafford will be better. Tebow will have to learn how to be a pocket QB first & a runner 2nd to succeed in the NFL. (Michael Vick never figured this out but then again he never figured a lot of things out.) If he makes it there, if Mayer keeps running him like he’s been this season he’s going to get hurt, the injuries could pile up or he could get that one hit that ends his career. Stafford can run but is learning not to take off until things break down & there not calling on him to run as much this year. We probably will not see what Stafford can do until the O line matures. He does need to be more consistent, the two losses we had this year were in large part due the fact he never got it going. Then again he led us to two great last minute victories. Hopefully as he matures he’ll stop doing the yo yo thing, his heroes are Elway & Farve. He needs to learn now rather than later what they did, keep you team in the game, don’t make mistakes to cost them the game. Has Tebow as a QB led Flordia on a game winning drive with his Arm? Can he be just a QB & not a FB\QB? That all works in college but as we’ve seen it doesn’t in the NFL. If Stafford matures his skills will translate well into the NFL.
By JBird
October 22, 2007 2:38 PM | Link to this
This is not even a fair comparison. When I’ve seen Tebow, he’s looked great, but he has had all day to pass. Stafford’s been dodging bullets all year. If Tebow had played on the UGA team this year, he’d probably be out with an injury and his stats would be much worse than Staffords. Let’s wait a year, when the UGA line at least matures a little, before posting an article like this one.
By DBoy
October 22, 2007 2:39 PM | Link to this
Tebow is playing better football than Stafford right now because of the supporting cast he is around him! Stafford will be a better QB once his line matures and he has the talent around him. Stafford is the future and will be a higher draft choice and better pro than Tebow. I disagree with Crosby on his assumtion you have to be a consistant winner in college for it to project to the pros. Just ask Jay Cutler!!
By Apaul404
October 22, 2007 2:40 PM | Link to this
This year is has been very tough watching Stafford struggle. Missing wide open receivers, and continue to throw off his back foot. I can’t really say he has made better decisions either. Unfortunately Georgia’s receivers have been suffering from the drops for the better part of a decade now. Urban Meyer does a fantastic job of fully utilizing Tebow’s abilities. Right now I draft Tebow, but not with my first pick. With that said this week would be as good a time as any for a young Georgia team to start to get it. GO DAWGS!
By AltamahaDawg
October 22, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this
Technically it is whomever the home team is, but there is no question that “Georgia/Florida” is euphoniously correct.
By JMDawg
October 22, 2007 2:43 PM | Link to this
Urban Meyer even said on College GameDay after beating Kentucky on Saturday that Tebow would look a lot worse if didn’t have such great receivers around him. Maybe that was just coach-speak and he’s trying to keep his QB from getting overconfident, but he has a point. Tebow’s supporting cast is outstanding. What would Stafford’s numbers be if he were flinging it to Percy Harvin and Bubba Caldwell? And what if he had that Gator line in front of him?
That said, I don’t want to sound like I’m taking anything away from Tebow or trying to make excuses for Stafford. Tebow does look like the more polished QB right now. I do think he’s further along in his development than Stafford However, it’s not an entirely fair comparison at this point. They’re both still sophomores anyway. We can determine who had the better career once both are top 10 picks in the NFL in 2010.
By shane
October 22, 2007 2:45 PM | Link to this
clint,tebow has a very strong arm and throws the ball with more accuracy and more loft than stafford.i saw tebow complete a 50 yard{in the air}pass earlier this year to a man that was covered.this was a quick,easy,td.he had just the right amount of air under the ball and actually lead the reciever so that he never broke stride.stafford seems to either overthrow or underthrow the deep ball,making the catch difficult and leaving little chance to run after the catch.he also throws more on a line,rather than an arc,so the wr can’t just run under the ball.so,at least for now,stafford is not the deep threat that tebow is.
By kerry
October 22, 2007 2:45 PM | Link to this
Atlanta Gator, Please move to Gainesville where you belong. If Tebow keeps running up the middle in the SEC he won’t make it to his Senior year in one piece.
By ARdawg
October 22, 2007 2:51 PM | Link to this
Tebow is the most well rounded QB I have seen in a very long time or possibly even ever. As we have seen this year he has the ability to carry his team on his back to victory. There is no comparison at this point in Tebow and Stafford. You are correct Chip in this being a totally subjective question. Is Tebow this successful if he were a Bulldog? NO! Would Stafford be as successful as Tebow as a Gator? NO! Tebow is a run oriented QB with an excellent arm and Stafford is a more poised pure passer.
The sophmore year definitely belongs to Tebow thus far. He has faced and lost to better talent while Stafford has lost to lesser talent (i.e. SC and TN). I am most definitely pulling for the Dawgs on Saturday and we have a mountain to climb. We are up for the climb and could without a doubt come out of Jacksonville with a victory. Tebow is good and 60% of the Gator offense but he’s not superman. He’s been the Tiger Woods of college ball this year but, like Tiger he’ll find out he’s still human.
That being said: Andre Woodson is the best QB in the country IMHO. As for Stafford and Tebow, that will be determined Saturday
By Chip Towers
October 22, 2007 2:54 PM | Link to this
Just one Opinion: That is one of the great analogies of all time and, in keeping with the “spirit” of this week’s occasion, an appropriate one.
By TybeeDawg
October 22, 2007 2:56 PM | Link to this
Here’s a better question: how would each team do in this game and for the whole season if neither starting quarterback were playing? Instead, their backups are playing.
By Are you serious
October 22, 2007 2:57 PM | Link to this
I am as big a DAWG fan as anyone but this comparison is ridiclous regardless of the outcome Saturday. Stafford is still “potentially great” and Tebow is already there. Tebow has yet to produce for a full year so I would hold off crowning him “The Best” but the early results are obvious. UGA homers needs to quit ignoring the obvious and start asking why Stafford is not progressing. Is it because all we heard about was Tebow’s off season workouts and biometeric analysis of his throwing motion while all we heard about from Stafford was his keg raising good time at a NASCAR race? I don’t know the causes but I do know the on the field results and passion is night and day different in favor of Tebow. I am so sick of having to eat crow about our annual top 10 recruiting classes that end up very average at UGA and many end up as stars in the NFL…why is that? you know the answer and so do I!
By Atlanta Gator
October 22, 2007 2:58 PM | Link to this
Alta~Dawg——It’s true that “Georgia-Florida” may be more euphonious, but “Florida-Georgia” is more alphabetical.
By Dan
October 22, 2007 3:00 PM | Link to this
Tebow makes Florida what it is. Not the athletes around him. If Stafford was that amazing then they wouldn’t be a tailback oriented team. Look at Oklahoma this year. Tebow is and will continue to be a better qb, not only because he’s better but also because Urban Meyer is a much better coach than Mark Richt is.
By BCD
October 22, 2007 3:01 PM | Link to this
Right now, TeeBeau is the man. Can anyone throw a better ball? I’ve watched him throw at a 45 deg angle being tackled and put it on the money for a TD. I’ve watched him throw the long ball countless times, into man and cover 2 and land it right on the money. The question is how long can he last and can he continue these numbers in the NFL?
After the UK game, you saw what we all knew would happen, he got dinged up. How long before it isn’t his non-throwing arm, but a knee, hip, or his throwing arm?
Stafford is an enigma to me. He has all the weapons, but isn’t improving his accuracy or touch as much as I would have hoped. You can blame it on his O line, but as stated above, TeeBeau manages to make those throws even while going down. I’m not willing to answer the question of who is/will be better until after next year.
Stafford SHOULD make a huge jump next year. His line will be better, his WRs should be better and with hard work and some coaching his accuracy and touch should be better as well. He’s already making better decisions, check his TD/Int numbers for this year.
TeeBeau, on the other hand, will have a year of getting bashed around and have to face another one. Not only that, but people will learn how to contain him and that will slow down his running game.
What it boils down to is this. Is TeeBeau the next evolution of the Mobile QB or just a flash in the pan? Will Stafford continue to improve and become the passer that we all hope he can be or will he be the biggest flop of a #1 rated QB in recent history?
BCD
By UFMATT
October 22, 2007 3:03 PM | Link to this
I love all the talk about Stafford being a better NFL QB,that will make a big difference Saturday. As long as Tebow beats UGA 4 straight years I don’t care what happens in the NFL. He will still be a Gator Legend!!! Go Gators beat the dogs. 16-18
By UFMATT
October 22, 2007 3:04 PM | Link to this
I love all the talk about Stafford being a better NFL QB,that will make a big difference Saturday. As long as Tebow beats UGA 4 straight years I don’t care what happens in the NFL. He will still be a Gator Legend!!! Go Gators beat the dogs. 16-18
By dawgingatorville
October 22, 2007 3:06 PM | Link to this
Stafford has no accuracy in the long ball, he can throw it a mile but it is a mile off target. Tebow is a very accurate passer and a great runner, is is better. Stafford can get better but for now he is not very good. I hope the Dawgs find a way to win!
By mark
October 22, 2007 3:06 PM | Link to this
BC- the amount of games won has absolutely nothing to do with a QBs abilities or projected success!! David Greene has more wins than any other QB in history and he’s on a practice squad in the NFL! Did Tee Martin even play in the NFL? He won a NC!! Give me a kid who is a leader, a competitor, can make the big plays when need be. He has to be smart as well as physically gifted. More than anything, he has to want it more than the other guy!!
By Atlanta Gator
October 22, 2007 3:09 PM | Link to this
kerry——You need to learn to share the good things in life, including Atlanta. It’s the mature thing to do.
By Dawgballs
October 22, 2007 3:10 PM | Link to this
Put Staffford behind Florida’s line throwing to Florida’s WR’s with the Gators play calling and they are undefeated right now and would probably win a NC. Put Teeblow in Staffords place at UGA and they will have only won two games.
By TJ
October 22, 2007 3:10 PM | Link to this
Stafford is a Quarterback and Tebow is a great fullback with an OK arm. If he has to set in the pocket and pass, UGA (and any others) will eat his lunch. That is what Auburn did, contained him and made him pass.
By KR
October 22, 2007 3:18 PM | Link to this
OK, I’m an Auburn grad who grew up in Georgia. Now on to the question:
Both have talent, in very different areas. Stafford is a passer, Tebow a runner. Unfortunately for them, I don’t see a lot of demand for either of them in the NFL. But they’re both young and may mature into NFL caliber QB’s in the next couple of years.
And for Atlanta Gator’s request for renaming, I’ve taken to calling it the Annual Bulldawg Beatdown at the Beach. My UGA friends love that one…
WAR EAGLE!
By Call it Like it is
October 22, 2007 3:20 PM | Link to this
Why are we having this discussion? Tebow is far superior!
GA does not have a chance in this game! After they got OWNED by UT, are u Kidding ME!
GO GATORS!!!
By Josh Hicks
October 22, 2007 3:28 PM | Link to this
This UGA if there is not enough talent on the team it is a direct reflection on the coaching staff. Every year Florida kicks our a$$ and I am sick and tired of it. this year will be no different because we have a young team. What a load of crap everyone needs to take off their blinders and get real we are not a good football team and have been living on past ranking for years ask Tenn. One last thing why was the starting job given to Stafford because he didn’t earn it and if he has proven anything this year it is that he is not ready to be a starting quaterback.
By RedAndBlack
October 22, 2007 3:31 PM | Link to this
I’m a UGA fan through and through but we have to separate our wishes from today’s reality. Today, reality is that Tebow is a better quarterback than Stafford given the percentage of plays of which Tebow has been responsible. Stafford is and always will be one a dimensional quarterback which could put him as one of the best quarterbacks at the next level (think of Tom Brady and Brett Favre). I believe Tebow’s game (combination of running and passing ability) is well suited for college football but he wouldn’t survive an entire season in the NFL as a dual threat quarterback (think of Michael Vick with his injuries). With that said, these are two different quarterbacks with skills suited for different levels of football. Being a college football fan and specifically, a UGA fan, I would much rather have someone with Tebow’s skills at this level than Stafford’s, though it will be exciting to see Stafford on Sundays.
By RedAndBlack
October 22, 2007 3:31 PM | Link to this
I’m a UGA fan through and through but we have to separate our wishes from today’s reality. Today, reality is that Tebow is a better quarterback than Stafford given the percentage of plays of which Tebow has been responsible. Stafford is and always will be one a dimensional quarterback which could put him as one of the best quarterbacks at the next level (think of Tom Brady and Brett Favre). I believe Tebow’s game (combination of running and passing ability) is well suited for college football but he wouldn’t survive an entire season in the NFL as a dual threat quarterback (think of Michael Vick with his injuries). With that said, these are two different quarterbacks with skills suited for different levels of football. Being a college football fan and specifically, a UGA fan, I would much rather have someone with Tebow’s skills at this level than Stafford’s, though it will be exciting to see Stafford on Sundays.
By RedAndBlack
October 22, 2007 3:32 PM | Link to this
I’m a UGA fan through and through but we have to separate our wishes from today’s reality. Today, reality is that Tebow is a better quarterback than Stafford given the percentage of plays of which Tebow has been responsible. Stafford is and always will be one a dimensional quarterback which could put him as one of the best quarterbacks at the next level (think of Tom Brady and Brett Favre). I believe Tebow’s game (combination of running and passing ability) is well suited for college football but he wouldn’t survive an entire season in the NFL as a dual threat quarterback (think of Michael Vick with his injuries). With that said, these are two different quarterbacks with skills suited for different levels of football. Being a college football fan and specifically, a UGA fan, I would much rather have someone with Tebow’s skills at this level than Stafford’s, though it will be exciting to see Stafford on Sundays.
By Denverdog
October 22, 2007 3:33 PM | Link to this
HE Atlanta GAtorTebow is a great full back.
Oscar meyer is a great offensive coach. If Stafford gets hurt there are 3 behind him that can play.
Darth Visor, never beat UGA as a player, and had they voted after the UGA game then, he would not have won it when he did. Your Hiesman winners were both pro duds.
You reflect how easy of a school UF is by showing the the outrageous grad rates. What you need at UF is a good Jan Kemp. UGA sports recruiting does pale in comparison becuase of that. That is why we send the academic rejects to FLa,Aub,Miss State,Ky and Ark. The rest of the conference is up to the higher standard.
Your so called 1984 season was eliminated because you cheated. That is why all of those games are officially listed as Lost. Face it duphus you cheated. CHEATED. You still do. How do thing Harvin got into school. UF was the only school he could get into. He couldn’t even get into Free shoes or the Coral GAble hood.
So kiss it will you!!!!
By reality check
October 22, 2007 3:33 PM | Link to this
Back from Europe and ready for the heart of the season.
At this point Tebow is definitely the better quarterback. Stafford has not gotten the greatest support from his wide receivers or offensive line and may one day live up to his hype, hopefully starting this Saturday. But Tebow has been great.
It was obvious before the season Georgia would struggle early because of youth and inexperience, but our players have gotten experience. Now is the time to make a move, especially with a needed bye week, Tebow dinged up some and Florida looking more vulnerable the past few games.
I hope with the bye week we have come up with a scheme to stop Tebow. It wouldn’t hurt my feelings to see us knock him out of a couple of games.
What is Percy Harvin’s health like now? I know early on he was limited some with an achilles injury.
By Drew
October 22, 2007 3:37 PM | Link to this
the only reason tebow is better than stafford is because urban meyer demands more from his players. he’s a better coach, motivator, badass than mark richt, who can come off as soft. Richt is more focused on maturing his players as men than as football players. there ya go..hopefully with the way this 2007 is going we’ll come out on top on saturday…i’ll seeya there!
By ARdawg
October 22, 2007 3:38 PM | Link to this
Call it like it is
Why I’ll just bet you are still eating your Fruit Loops in a big orange bowl aren’t you?
The Ga/Tn game has nothing to do with the game this weekend. Wake up, the parity in the east IS that close.
By truthteller
October 22, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this
Stafford is not in the same league with Tebow, whether that league is SEC or NFL. When you go back and look at Stafford’s “accomplishments” most have come against people like Okie State, W. Carolina, etc..
Is FL vs GA still considered a rivalry? I thought both teams were supposed to be competitive in order to have a rivalry. GA is not competitive with FL.
By big dave
October 22, 2007 3:42 PM | Link to this
this is simple. it goes back to when Stafford was recruited. he said he’s never had to work out, he’s just naturally gifted. that pretty much is clear when you look at him, he’s not well built. strong, but no real physique. on the flip side, tebow is none as a determined, hard worker and clearly works out. staffords lack of desire or need to go above and beyond natural ability is showing loud and clear in college. that’s why he is so inconsistant. some days his ability shines, other days it doesn’t work out so well. there’s no comparison here. both teams are yound and inexperienced so toss that excuse out the window. unfortunately, the jerk that hotdogs every chance he gets is clearly the better player. tebow will leave the SEC as one of the most hated players EVER, partly becuase the media suckles his teets day in and out and because of his pompus attitude on the field.
By Roswell Ed
October 22, 2007 3:42 PM | Link to this
They are close-
In man loving ability.
Stafford spooning Cox.
Tebow licking that dude on the cheek and his roommate kissing him on the sidelines.
I wonder if they exchange numbers after the game Sat.
By David-ATL14
October 22, 2007 3:44 PM | Link to this
Tebow, Woodson and Ainge are all 3 “head and shoulders” better than Stafford.
Not sure how Tebow’s game will translate at the next level, but Woodson and Ainge will also be better NFL players than Stafford.
By War Eagle
October 22, 2007 3:48 PM | Link to this
Stafford would be a better QB if he had Florida, LSU or even Vandy receivers, but as a college player, Tebow is several steps ahead.
By Phillip
October 22, 2007 3:49 PM | Link to this
Love to hear all of the dawg fans tell us how poor their team and their #1 recruits have not jelled into a good team. Also, being able to remember just how many uga fans were saying, “2 or 3 national championships in the Stafford era” last year after a couple of wins. Even this past Sept, after beating an average Okla State team, ” did you see how great stafford looked on Sat?” Amazing turnaround… but typical uga fans…Tebow will rule again this weekend, against an overrated dawgs team…. From Atlanta Gator, stranded in dawg country!!!!
By RedAndBlack
October 22, 2007 3:49 PM | Link to this
I’m a UGA fan through and through but we have to separate our wishes from today’s reality. Today, reality is that Tebow is a better quarterback than Stafford given the percentage of plays of which Tebow has been responsible. Stafford is and always will be one a dimensional quarterback which could put him as one of the best quarterbacks at the next level (think of Tom Brady and Brett Favre). I believe Tebow’s game (combination of running and passing ability) is well suited for college football but he wouldn’t survive an entire season in the NFL as a dual threat quarterback (think of Michael Vick with his injuries). With that said, these are two different quarterbacks with skills suited for different levels of football. Being a college football fan and specifically, a UGA fan, I would much rather have someone with Tebow’s skills at this level than Stafford’s, though it will be exciting to see Stafford on Sundays.
By sonny
October 22, 2007 3:49 PM | Link to this
Call it like it is: You obviously know nothing about football, especially SEC football, if you think that just because UGA lost to UT they have no chance against your gaytors. I guess bama shouldn’t have showed up against UT since they lost to UGA and UT beat the brakes off UGA. You can never go by past results.
By BS
October 22, 2007 3:49 PM | Link to this
KR-I looooove your new name of the game. I hope you don’t mind if I steal it. As a Gator fan who grew up in Atlanta I can’t wait to tell all my UGA friends of your genius. Go Gators!
By Atlanta Gator
October 22, 2007 3:49 PM | Link to this
Tybee Dawg——In answer to your question, Tebow has three very capable back-ups who are capable of starting for many (if not most) of the other top-25 teams in the country. At least two could start for the Gators in Tebow’s absence: junior college transfer Bryan Waggener (6’6”, 236 lbs.) and true Freshman Cameron Newton (6’5”, 243 lbs.). Both are bigger than all but one of the Gators’ scholarship running backs. The fourth stringer is a true freshman, John Brantley, who was the most highly recruited high school QB in Florida the year after Tebow.
So, be careful what you wish for; the Gators have no shortage of talent at quarterback.
By Mike
October 22, 2007 3:50 PM | Link to this
It is note even close. Tebow by a mile and UGA will once again go home with their tails tucked between their legs.
By MM
October 22, 2007 3:55 PM | Link to this
Didn’t you already answer the question? Tebow is much better now. Does it really matter to UGA or UF which one turns out to be a better pro?
By grumpcr33p3r
October 22, 2007 3:56 PM | Link to this
IT IS BLASPHEMOUS TO COMPARE TIM TEBOW THE COMPASSIONATE, THE MERCIFUL, THE ALL-POWERFUL, THE ALL-KNOWING TO AN INSIGNIFICANT SINFUL HUMAN. EVEN THE MERE PHYSICAL MANIFESTATION OF TIM TEBOW IN FLORIDA GATOR UNIFORM IS UNWORTHY OF HIS OWN IMMACULATE DIVINE EMINENCE.
By SW
October 22, 2007 4:00 PM | Link to this
Face it. Both Tebow and Stafford are overhyped but the former lives up to his far more than the latter. Their playing styles are apples and oranges. Stafford is more of the “traditional drop back” passer, while Tebow is more of the Vick(w/o the ridicule)/Elway/Young/Cunningham variety (i.e., running). However, I do pose the following question:
If you removed either of them from their teams, how would the respective teams fare? Though all of their success is attributed to Tebow, I don’t think the Gators would miss much of a beat, while the Dogs just may improve. In other words, Tebow is the product of a system that would be relatively easy to learn, while Stafford is just a dud….
By DH
October 22, 2007 4:00 PM | Link to this
At this time, Tebow is better but he is no pocket passer. All I can say is would someone on the Dawgs defense please turn into Thomas Davis on one play and put their helmet under his chin!!!! I wanna see how great he is after he really gets his bell rung. Week in and week out I see him play and no one has layed a really good lick on him. Make him regret ever running with the ball. Dawgs, please play with some emotion this weekend. If this team would play as p** off as Moreno does we may not have a loss this season. Come on Dawgs, the Gay-turd nation grows with every win, lets shut them up on Oct. 27!!!!!! GO DAWGS!!!!!!
By Atlanta Gator
October 22, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this
Denver Dawg——No name-calling or mean-spirited personal insults, please; that’s not nice. Let’s try to restrict ourselves to blog posts that wouldn’t embarrass our mothers if they read this blog.
As for the quality of the University of Florida education that I received and the academic respect for the three degrees that I earned, well, let’s just say that I got more than my money’s worth. BTW, if you really want to compare personal SAT, GMAT and LSAT scores, you’ll be sorry. Probably better stick to football smack.
By surfrider
October 22, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this
Tebow is turning out to be a Calvin Johnson at QB. He was a talent in high school but this quick in college is somewhat surprising. The key is this kid was home schooled for sometime I believe and has a serious head on his shoulder. Yes Florida is a party school like many but this guy seems to be able to hold his own in all aspects. A rare talent. Stafford still has some upside but he has to develop a lot more in two years to really have a shot at a good NFL career. To say Ga. does’nt have the athletes is questionable since every year they seem to be in the top 15 in recruiting. I think it’s scheme that is hurting Ga. in competing against Florida, LSU and up and coming Vandy’s, Ken, Bama, etc..
By steve
October 22, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this
Anyone ever heard of Steve Young that lefthanded wildman that could and would run you over? He had a fairly decent NFL career from what I’ve heard. Just “axeing” the question…
By Jeff
October 22, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this
Tebow is being coached - Stafford is not!
By GrayDawg
October 22, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this
Look we lost to South Carolina, and they are not a big and prowerful team. They lost to VANDY. HAHA. Were are all those Gamey Cocks now. HA HA HA….. The issue here is that the SEC now has parity. The days of the undefeated SEC season is over. It is a any given Saturday now. GO Dawgs!
By Buck in the NW
October 22, 2007 4:12 PM | Link to this
I was and I am a big supporter of Stafford. Tim Tebow is an outstanding QB and has so far has come out on top of Stafford so I tip my hat to him in a salute……Chip, you said something that I think is a real key to this whole conversation. TB oriented offense. Tebow was recruited to run the spread option offense. Meyer got his man and it’s paying off. I have no idea why CMR signed Stafford knowing that he had never in his life run anything but the Spread offense and NOT A TB TYPE OFFENSE! He’s tried to put the round peg into the square hole. We know that Meyer is coaching Tebow to run the Spread Option but we don’t have any idea what Bobo and co. are teaching Matthew. I keep hearing the word balance. If that’s the goal then that means you’re not taking what the Defense is giving you…….Chip, was Caleb King just not picking things up fast enough? Did they try and feed him the whole play book? Harvin wasn’t asked to learn the Reptile playbook in his freshman yr. Now because of what I call being hard headed, we’re going into this game with one true RB and we better be hoping Moreno doesn’t go down……So far Tebow has led his team the way a Spread Option QB should and he is good. Stafford? He has nowhere near the supporting cast nor does he have any receivers who can catch the ball on a consistent basis and he overthrows partly because he doesn’t have anyone he can work with and develop any rhythm at all. Tebow will be asked to win the game with a great supporting cast and Stafford will be asked to do the same thing with nowhere near the play makers. If we are to win, Matthew Stafford will have to use all of his talent and hope the Coaches will call plays to win.
By WHAT IF?
October 22, 2007 4:13 PM | Link to this
Saint Weis and Lord Tebow were united to fight on the same team? Would the world explode?
By I-DOG
October 22, 2007 4:13 PM | Link to this
I hate the gators as much as any self respecting college football fan… but I have to give it to Tebow at this point by a landslide.
Stafford may become an excellent QB. He is not one yet.
Tebow is a unique talent. I can’t think of any other qb since Vick and V. Young who lined up in the gun when EVERYONE knew he was going to run and could get 5-15 yards so easily with their feet. Tebow does it as a designed play with the entire stadium knowing he is running. Vick did it when the play broke down and made people miss. Tebow just grinds and bounces off of people. Truly unique.
Hopefully, Stafford will continue to develop and Saturday night would be an excellent time to havea breakout performance.
By TybeeDawg
October 22, 2007 4:13 PM | Link to this
Atlanta Gator…i wasn’t wishing anything, merely asking the question. There’s an endless supply of talent everywhere. But talent doesn’t always equal success.
By Al
October 22, 2007 4:14 PM | Link to this
Stafford has been playing football all his life: In Jan 2008 he will be a JR. at UGA…. Remember a JR, not a soph, not a freshman…. He has been playing since he was a freshmen. I realize we have a not so good O-Line, but I am tired of excuses. I would like to see some good coaching, play calling and scheming… I would rather lose a close one than to get beat, looking bad…… It is time for the coaching staff to look within at themselves and Beat Fl… Fl only has 8 seniors on the entire team and you do hear them complaining about being young….. If we can not beat them this year, you might as well and forget the next 3……. It take balls to look at your coaching staff and shake it up, I thought Bobo was going to be the answer, but he is just as inconsistent as Richt was calling plays..
Wait and see, I bet someone dinner, that Fl spots points on us like Tn, and we will be trying to catch up the rest of the game….. Stafford needs to be a leader a pump these guys up like Moreno does.. be a winner, the team needs some killer instinct in them and not this passive stuff……..
Ga has the potential to be one of if not the best team or teams in the country every year. As I watch all these other schools play, everyone of their play makers are from Ga….. Auburn, Kentucky, SC, Ten, Al, Fl State, Clemson, NC, LSU, Vandy, MS, Ole Mis, … all of them and more…
Wow, when will we step it up to the next level…….. or is the only thing we can get angry over is our players jumping up and down on a logo…………… We need an Erk Russell type of guy to coach our defense…
By Joey A
October 22, 2007 4:14 PM | Link to this
First off, I love my DAWGS and always want our players to be clear cut favorites over opposing teams players. However, Tebow or Stafford? Are you kidding me? In my mind, Tebow is the Heisman front runner. A Heisman to me is someone who even in a loss shows he is head and shoulders above the competition. Tebow has done just that. Example: Troy Smith won the Heisman last year because he put up sick numbers on a cup cake schedule. What happened when he played a team with a real defense? He surely didn’t show he was head and shoulders above everyone else. He looked horrible. I was liking Woodson for UK until the SC game. Reason is, he played a strong team who put alot of pressure on him and caused him to turn the ball over. A true Heisman would’ve remained calm. Tebow has only thrown 3 interceptions this year. Two of them because Riley Cooper ran the wrong routes and the other was a deflection off a helmet. He has been sharp and deadly accurate. When comparing him and Stafford, Chip you mentioned something about Tebow having to play in Georgia’s young offense. In case you haven’t noticed, Florida is very young also. Yes, there skilled position players are veterans, with the exception of Knowshon, so are ours. The difference would be Tebow knows how to lead. His team believes in him. He demands their respect because he’s earned it. You mention what Stafford would look like playing in Florida’s system with having time to throw. I’ve already seen too many times where Stafford has had time to throw and still overthrew or underthrew receivers. His accuracy or lack of is horrible. I think Stafford will progress, I wish the best for him but he is not in the same league as Tebow. Prove me wrong Matt. Come out and lead our men to a victory with a wonderful showing of poise and leadership.
By Leroy Rogers
October 22, 2007 4:18 PM | Link to this
Hey, let’s forget about the GA. qb and Tebow. Let’s talk about Ainge and John Parker Wilson…judging from their play in the big game. Now seriously, I am 77 years old and Time Tebow is the most exciting qb or maybe college player I have seen in following college football. His specialty…jump pass, ala Harry Gilmer of Ala. yesteryear.
By Cuz
October 22, 2007 4:20 PM | Link to this
Atlanta Gator, loved that 2:17 post. And you are correct sir, the terms of the Jacksonville Convention stipulate that smack talk is allowed within two weeks of said game by loser of said game in the previous year.
So, Dawgs come out, throw the kitchen sink at Tebow and company and make the WM haters eat their stinking words. Okay I will take 38-34 with UGA on the upside. It just feels like this should be the year to scratch that itch. And it would be about time.
Obviously at this stage, Tebow has the better numbers and is ahead on points. I have been looking forward to a Tebow-Stafford head to head, well neither plays defence, since they both signed. This is must see TV or live if you can make it.
In the spirit of fun and frivolity which is what this game is all about, smack on.
Most of us now just call it the Party, but I have been known to call it the annual beatdown. Waiting for that pendulum to come back my way.
By ARdawg
October 22, 2007 4:20 PM | Link to this
David-ATL
I suppose you have a crystal ball we don’t know about?. Ainge and Woodson are both better than Stafford right now and they demm well should be. They are both good QB’s but they have 2 years on him too. Do you remember either QB 2 years ago? Tebow is NOT head and shoulders better than Stafford. It’s already been said on this blog but I’ll repeat it again for your sake. Put Tebow in Staffords place and he’s not even the best mail carrier in the backfield. Praise Tebow if you like he’s an excellent football player. But it’s not neccessary to attempt to demean another good QB as Stafford to make your point.
By MURPHY
October 22, 2007 4:21 PM | Link to this
I WATCHED TEBOW PLAY HIGH SCHOOL BALL.IM TELLING YOU RIGHT NOW.I LIKE STAFFORD BUT TEBOW IS THE REAL DEAL.HE REFUSES TO LOSE!HE COULD HAVE PLAYED DEFENSE FOR ERK!BUT HE IS HUMAN,AND IS CAPABLE OF HAVING AN OFF DAY-AS IN 10/27/07 STARTING AT 3:30 PM.
GO DAWGS!!!!
By Atlanta Gator
October 22, 2007 4:23 PM | Link to this
Denver Dawg——I missed something in your earlier post that needs to be factually corrected: the Gators forfeited no games in 1984; 6 of the other 9 SEC presidents voted to vacate the SEC championship for that season. The president of the Tennessee led the charge; UT was the conference runner up. However, when the presidents later vote whether to award the 1984 championship to the Volunteers, a majority of the presidents voted to leave the 1984 championship vacant. Hence, there was no SEC football champion in 1984. (That’s a great bar bet, BTW.)
Generally, forfeiture of games already played is reserved for situations when college teams play athletes that they knew or should have known were academically ineligible. Charley Pell’s Gators cheated in recruiting, not in the class room. Pell et al got caught, and he and the team paid a severe price for their misdeeds, including the end of his coaching career, and three years of severe scholarship reductions.
I have never heard a credible accusation of the Evil Genius or Urban Meyer’s Gators cheating at either recruiting or academics. You don’t have to love either of them, but you should respect their integrity. In comparison, I believe that multiple UGA programs have been on probation for both academic and recruiting violations since 1990; whereas no UF programs have even been accused of any major violations in the last 17 years. Other than Vanderbilt, I believe that UF is the only SEC school that can make that claim.
By grumpcr33p3r
October 22, 2007 4:25 PM | Link to this
STAFFORD —> CAN LIFT KEGS OVER HIS HEAD
CREATOR OF WORLDS TIM TEBOW —> CAN LIFT STAFFORD AND HIS KEG OVER HIS HEAD, CAN ABSOLVE MANKIND OF SIN, AND GRANT ETERNAL LIFE
O PEOPLE! ASK THE ALL POWERFUL, THE COMPASSIONATE, THE MERCIFUL TIM TEBOW TO COME INTO YOUR HEART AND SAVE YOU FROM YOUR SINS TODAY!
By Atlanta Gator
October 22, 2007 4:25 PM | Link to this
Tybee Dawg——You are wise. No argument here.
By Chad
October 22, 2007 4:25 PM | Link to this
It doesn’t mean the same to both. We Gamecocks are tied with UF at the top of the east….even with a win UGA is still looking up at Carolina!
By Keith
October 22, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this
What has Stafford shown to make everybody think he will play NFL? The only people that has heard of him are from Georgia. Nationwide, there are 30-40 quarterbacks better right now. Please don’t use the ” freshman lineman ” excuse anymore. Florida won a national championship with freshman all over the place, including the OL. Please don’t tell me how young the dawgs are anymore - every plays true freshman and sophomores. It’s time to quit using that excuse. How many years in row can the dawgs be so young?
By GrayDawg
October 22, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this
Vandy beats the ole ball sack….. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA. Did anyone get a visor toss count. HA HA HA HA…
Mark will become a great pocket passer. T-Bone is a great tough kid, you have to hand it to him. GA by 3 this weekend!
VANDY!! HA HA HA.
By braveswin
October 22, 2007 4:28 PM | Link to this
To answer the Tebow vs Stafford question you only need to decide if you could have either player, who would you choose? Based on the performance to this point only a fool wouldn’t take Tebow.However the full story has yet to be written.I would take the agents cut on either one of them and retire.What do you want for a dollar,a Picasso or a Rembrant? Both will make you rich… another question that has no correct answer..
By TommyGator
October 22, 2007 4:36 PM | Link to this
Boy,
I’ve seen some delusional dawgs in my day, but this blog has ‘em coming out of the wood shed. Tebow is a great leader and an excellent QB. Those of you who say he’s a fullback with an average arm or that he’s built his #1 QB rating by throwing screens are simply not watching the games, not paying attention, or are not capable of interpreting what you see.
Stafford has NOT shown the ability to lead his offense, to hit the deep ball, or to inspire his fans. He may have a great arm and untapped potential, but so far, I haven’t seen it in evidence on the field. (With the exception of the UGA-Auburn game last year.)
The other (forgotten) guy in the original blog is Mitch Mustain. He has shown nothing but average weasel tendencies to this point. He threw his whole team, Houston Nutt and The University of Arkansas under the bus.
I don’t understand the premise for this argument. This blog is a DESPERATE GRASP for a story line. I suspect that’s because there is not a lot of hope in the Georgia camp this week.
By Atlanta Gator
October 22, 2007 4:37 PM | Link to this
Cuz——You’re a great sport, and you’re always welcome at the Atlanta Gator’s house.
By Atlanta Gator
October 22, 2007 4:41 PM | Link to this
grumpcr33p3r——Did you hear that Superman wears Tim Tebow pajamas?
By Carlton Powell
October 22, 2007 4:43 PM | Link to this
Spent the weekend in Highlands, NC with many other Bulldog fans. We all enjoyed watching a GREAT college football game between LSU and Auburn. Too bad someone had to lose. Both teams gave it all they had. Out of our convesations over “adult beverages,” several items achieved consensus. First, currently there are no players playing for the Bulldogs that could compete for, and play for either LSU or Auburn. This was a very sad consensus. Second, the Bulldogs will probably only win one more game this year. That against Troy State. Third, even if things go almost perfectly, the Bulldogs are at least 4 years away from competing on the level displayed by LSU and Auburn. The OL and DL’s are a mess. Why is this?? The last competent OL was in 2002; five seasons ago. What’s up?? We all acknowledged the usual answers, but none seem to have logic. In the SEC great teams play great OL & DL play. They have multiple players capable of getting the job done. Look at LSU. Their great DL, Glenn Dorsey, goes out, someone else comes in and does a competent job. Building this kind of depth will take time, and committment to the fundementals of football, not the glitzy “skill” players. They will come if the proper building blocks are in place. We all agree, there may be some real a$$ whippin’s in store the remainder of this season. As for Satfford/Teebow, hard to tell. Teebow is certainly heads and shoulders above Stafford right now. Don’t see that changing any this season. Teebow does have more weapons, a more demanding coaching staff, and what appears to be more competent position coaches.
By TybeeDawg
October 22, 2007 4:46 PM | Link to this
Where’s NASCARfan?
By a cut above
October 22, 2007 4:49 PM | Link to this
Tebow throws the prettiest passes I have seen in years. Not to mention he has a jump pass in his arsenal NFL QBS would die to posess. He should really impress the scouts at the combine with his bench press,power clean, and jump pass. Those are two very imp. factors for a nfl qb. He should go down as one of teh best pocket passers in nfl history. Just like mike vick. Tebow will run everyone over for the rest of his football career. Tebow for president!
By MURPHY
October 22, 2007 4:52 PM | Link to this
Carlton,
YOU SPEAK THE TRUTH,EVEN THOUGH IT HURTS. I THINK WE SHOULD LET THE PLAYERS OFF THE BUSES IN JAX AT RV CITY AND LET THEM WALK THROUGH THE UGA FANS AND GET SOME IDEA OF WHAT PASSION FOR WINNING IS!!!
By ARdawg
October 22, 2007 4:52 PM | Link to this
Chad
I have to hand it to you….You got bawls…..you’re the first Gamecock I’ve seen back on this blog since your thumping in Columbia…..Hope springs eternal huh? Give it up, Vandy exposed the farce that is the SC team. Great win over KY but most likely you won’t win another unless you get lucky with Clemson
By Soothsayer
October 22, 2007 4:55 PM | Link to this
Tebow over Stafford all day every week and twice on Sunday. Tebow will get his big numbers and he can have them. I just want the damn W. Stafford is no Andre Woodson but when you give up 400+ yards passing we call that a VERY BAD THING. Nobody on earth is giving Georgia a chance in this game and given the way this season has progressed that is extremely foolish. You’ve been warned.
By ARdawg
October 22, 2007 4:58 PM | Link to this
Charlton Powell
WOW! Ya’ll must have really been drunk. Guess we’ll get a chance to test your inebrieated thories next year with LSU and Auburn. But you’re right, that was a great game
By sobedawg
October 22, 2007 5:06 PM | Link to this
Stafford will be the better passer on Saturday…and in the FUTURE…Tebow is surrounded by a wealth of “freaks” and a much more experience O-Line…Sobedawg
By tspec
October 22, 2007 5:06 PM | Link to this
Tebow at GA, would make GA a much better team… No questions asked.
Stafford at FLA and the team automatically becomes weak!!!!!!
FACT
By gdawginkalamazoo
October 22, 2007 5:12 PM | Link to this
Chip,
Did anybody install those exit row lights on the buses yet? We want the team to get off the bus this week. We don’t want to see a Knoxville repeat.
By Atlanta Gator
October 22, 2007 5:20 PM | Link to this
gdawg~zoo——Nice comment! But in order to make up for that 1904 UGA victory over the East Florida Seminary club team that UGA claims in he series record, don’t you think that the Gators are entitled to play the UGA junior varsity this year??
By The View
October 22, 2007 5:29 PM | Link to this
Face it…Teabeaux, er I’m sorry, I mean Teabow, er Teebow, whatever…adds the running dimension which makes keeps any defense a bit off balance and a lot more honest as they have to respect the run. Look with WVU did to UGA in the Sugar bowl with their mobile QB. Sure UGA adjusted, but they dont have Harvin and company. Unfortunately, UF is going to post a 30+ point a* whippin on the chewwawaas.
By gdawginkalamazoo
October 22, 2007 5:32 PM | Link to this
QB is suppose to lead the team to victory. Same results so far this year. Stats are nice but a win is a win is a win. This weekend will determine who the better QB is. The one who leads his team to victory. NFL potential? Wouldn’t even try to guess at this time. Best example, Tom Brady was a 6th round draft pick, Cryin Leaf was #1? Who would you have taken based upon “potential”. No way to tell until they get to the NFL. We can re-visit at the end of the season to determine who is better when the records are in. Tebow definitely has the easier road at this time. I do like Stafford on those long scoring drives when we have to have it. I wish we could do that more consistently.
There might have been a lot of flashier QB’s who racked up more stats than David Greene in college but that dude knew how to win, plain and simple.
This might be a turning the corner type of week. Although I hope not like South Carolina’s turning the corner last week. SC LMAO! SOS done by Vandy at HC. SOS had the talent at UF to yank people in and out anytime he felt like it. He doesn’t at SC and never will. Trade your players?
I can tell you one thing, I am glad I don’t have Willie Martinez’s job this week. I hope he gets some sleep. Lunestra anyone?
By AltamahaDawg
October 22, 2007 5:34 PM | Link to this
The only real comparison is how Tebow and Stafford are developing is relative to thier respective offenses. Obviously they would have different stats given each other supporting cast, but more than that, Tebow, running UF system is way ahead of Stafford running UGA system. But when Tebow IS the gator offense, wouldnt that make sence?. One of the interesting thing to me is that UGA could potentially plug in another QB and be relatively as successful, (for what thats worth) while if Tebow wasnt there, Uf looses most of its ummph. Even Meyers says half of it is just Tebow deciding to call his own number, despite the play. Might make for more of a remarkable player, but I am not sure thats a healthier overall situation.
BTW, why do we never have a reciever standing wide open 12 yards deep, when MS get in trouble like they do?. HAlf of UF broken plays look better than our textbook play.
By gdawginkalamazoo
October 22, 2007 5:36 PM | Link to this
Atlanta Gator, you will be seeing our JV team this year.
By RedAndBlack
October 22, 2007 5:40 PM | Link to this
I’m a UGA fan through and through but we have to separate our wishes from today’s reality. Today, reality is that Tebow is a better quarterback than Stafford given the percentage of plays of which Tebow has been responsible. Stafford is and always will be one a dimensional quarterback which could put him as one of the best quarterbacks at the next level (think of Tom Brady, Brett Favre, Peyton Manning, Eli Manning who did not shine until their Junior/Senior years). I believe Tebow’s game (combination of running and passing ability) is well suited for college football but he wouldn’t survive an entire season in the NFL as a dual threat quarterback (think of Michael Vick with his injuries). With that said, these are two different quarterbacks with skills suited for different levels of football. Being a college football fan and specifically, a UGA fan, I would much rather have someone with Tebow’s skills at this level than Stafford’s, though it will be exciting to see Stafford on Sundays.
By Bill W.
October 22, 2007 5:43 PM | Link to this
Teebow is better tus far. Staff has a ways to go right now with seeing the open men and consistency. He will evolve though. Too much talent not to.
UGA- 26 UF- 24
By gdawginkalamazoo
October 22, 2007 5:44 PM | Link to this
I don’t know Altadawg, like Atlanta Gator said, I wouldn’t wish Tebow’s backup on anybody either. That Cameron dude is in the same mold as JaMarcus Russell. Then again remember what we did to Russell the last time we played him? But you are correct Tebow IS UF’s offense right now. Damn good one too. Hard to plug-in and play there if something does happen. I would imagine he takes majority of snaps at practice this week too. Wonder what the ratio is typically is for Tebow v his backups in practice in regards to reps.
By Buck in the NW
October 22, 2007 5:51 PM | Link to this
Altahama, good points and I just point out that Tebow was recruited to play Meyer’s type of “O”, he played it in H.S. where as Stafford is playing in an “O” that he never played before. He was Spread Offense all the way. Your last point was one of the best of the day and I don’t have the answer and I wonder if our Coaching staff has any idea.
By Neutral Site
October 22, 2007 5:54 PM | Link to this
Where is all of UGA’s talent. Every year, they are supposed to be ranked in the top 10 in recruiting, but during the season, all we here is how much better everyone else’s talent is. Why? The one place is does show is tailback. What do you think UF would be, or how much better Tebow would be, if they had Knoshawn Moreno in their backfield?
By ben
October 22, 2007 5:54 PM | Link to this
Let’s ask the right question here. Who’s the best quarterback: Tebow, Wuerffel or Spurrier?
Go Gators!
By ARdawg
October 22, 2007 5:55 PM | Link to this
Bill W
I had an end zone seat last week at Vandy and cringed at almost every pass I saw Stafford throw. I would have sworn he was throwing into coverage for a pick. For the most part he’ll thread the needle or put the ball in a catchable place. Many times it doesn’t look as pretty but it’s there to be caught. He does like pepper on the the ball and rightfully so. I honestly believe he’s putting the ball where he wants it almost every time. Keep in mind he doesn’t have a steady “go to” guy and that does make a significant difference in his success ratio
By GaSuxMadDix
October 22, 2007 6:06 PM | Link to this
i laugh every time a ga. fan does that stupid bark. Its really funny b/c every year the Ga. hopeful think they have a shot at winning this game. ha ha, laughable
By Dalton
October 22, 2007 6:06 PM | Link to this
As much as I back the Dawgs, the stats just don’t lie. Current QB stats:
Tebow - 1711 yds./66.1 cmp.%/17 TDs/#1 QB rating
Stafford - 1364 yds./55.3 cmp.%/10 TDs/#76 QB rating
Would the stats be different if they played on opposite teams? Maybe. But we’ll never find that out, so it is a moot point. I do predict that Stafford will become a better NFL QB. Nothing to back that up…just a hunch.
By VanGorD
October 22, 2007 6:08 PM | Link to this
Why even ask: This is like comparing a pinto to a cadillac. It is not even close. Teabag is way better. Teabag is a determined winner. Stafford is a laid back……..TBD.
By jake
October 22, 2007 6:13 PM | Link to this
is this honestly a joke???????? Matthew Stafford is an AVERAGE AT BEST qb. He is one of the most overated players in the country for one of the most overated teams in the country.
By Dalton
October 22, 2007 6:23 PM | Link to this
Ben - I really like that question! But before we answer, let’s add two more names. Who is the better QB:
Tebow, Wuerffel, Spurrier, Tarkenton, or Greene?
Rank ‘em, folks!
By Wozzo the Wonder Dog
October 22, 2007 6:30 PM | Link to this
Very interesting article by Dan Magill regarding bye weeks and the corresponding results at the Athens B-H Website.
By grumpcr33p3r
October 22, 2007 6:31 PM | Link to this
TIM TEBOW THE COMPASSIONATE, THE MERCIFUL HAS NO HUMAN FLAWS AND HAS NEVER SINNED
TO COMPARE TRIVIAL HUMAN IDEAS LIKE SUPERMAN TO TIM TEBOW THE ALL-POWERFUL, ALL-KNOWING IS LIKE DIVIDING A NUMBER BY ZERO
TIM TEBOW THE ALMIGHTY FORMED THE PENINSULA OF FLORIDA INTO THE SHAPE OF A GIANT SCHLONG TO PROCLAIM HIS INFINITE VIRILITY FOR EVERMORE
TIM TEBOW RESURRECTED JOHN HEISMAN FROM THE DEAD AND BESTOWED ON HIM THE TEBOW TROPHY
By TampaGator
October 22, 2007 6:32 PM | Link to this
Both players have outstanding, if very difffent, futures in college and in the NFL> For those who think Tebow cannot pass obviously did not watch the LSU and Kentucky games. He throws a beautiful soft and a beautiful hard pass, and he hits his receivers in stride on deep passes. I have yet to see on deep pass be underthrown by Tebow in two years. I have seen Stafford to that over and over again. But Stafford has enormous talent and a very bright future. Both will be pro players and be starters in the NFL. Their approaches will be different. And for those who think Stafford is not mobile, you haven’t been watching the same player I have. Tebow just sees, at this time at least, to be a little more advanced in all aspects of his game. His weakness is not being able to look off the primary receiver and find secondary ones, although he showed major improvement in that area against Kentucky. He was terrible at it during the LSU game. I, for one, think the game this weekend is going to be very close and could go either way depending on the breaks. Florida is a little banged up and coming off a tough SEC game. The off week should help Georgia, as it has Florida in the past. I think Georgia has played Auburn before Florida in the past, which helped the Gators. The Kentucky game, I think, took a lot out of Florida both physically and mentally. The Cats we actually harder hitters than LSU, although not as talented. Auburn was the hardest hitting team of all and very talents on defense. The Gators are coming off Auburn, LSU, and Kentucky all in a row. This may be the best time for the Dawgs to get an upset because of that. But I still think the Gatots will win a close one. But the Dawgs should prove their quality in this one to those Dawg fans who go back and forth on the issue from week to week. Let’s have some fun on Saturday!
By dawgs99
October 22, 2007 6:39 PM | Link to this
Tebow is the better QB. The reason is because Stafford is not well-coached. Bobo is a sorry QB coach as well as a sorry OC. If both QB’s had good coaches I think they’d be virtually even with the slight edge to Stafford cause of his rocket arm. As it is Stafford looks undeveloped and confused. Thanks a lot Boob I mean Bobo for ruining a great QB.
By GERG
October 22, 2007 6:44 PM | Link to this
Stafford or Tebow? You’ve got to be kidding. I think I’d choose the winner—Tebow. And would someone please tell Stafford what a redneck he looks like with those dreaded long sideburns?
By Don
October 22, 2007 6:56 PM | Link to this
Who’s better, Tebow or Stafford? And who has the bigger long-term potential?
What’s your next poll? Tiger Woods versus Duffy Waldorf?
By mrdawg
October 22, 2007 7:05 PM | Link to this
Right now, Tebow is a much bigger star than Stafford, but UF has a better team. When UGA rebuilds next year, Stafford will be all SEC and Tebow will be looking up, wondering what happened.
By dawgcrazy
October 22, 2007 7:09 PM | Link to this
So far, Stafford has been a big bust. Hopefully, he gets it together and wins at least 1 big game while in college. Tebow’s already won a national title, so there’s no comparison. Richt better start coaching the QB a lot better than he has, or he can hit the road too.
By DJSTHEGREATESTDAWGOFALLTIME
October 22, 2007 7:23 PM | Link to this
No Stafford wouldl not be successful playing at UF. He is not as good as Tebow, and its not close. Stafford is all hype at this point. He obviously doesn’t take his postion or the game as serious as Tebow. He will be a below average SEC player for his whole career.
By BCD
October 22, 2007 7:28 PM | Link to this
I think one big difference is the extra effort that UF has put into Tebow’s development. Did anyone notice the article on how they rebuild his throwing style over the Summer? I can guarantee that UF put two to three times the effort into developing Tebow that CMR and company has put into Stafford. Looks like all of that extra effort has paid dividends.
BCD
By The Big Bug
October 22, 2007 7:45 PM | Link to this
You people are delusional.Two soph QB’s: Stafford, Tebow,” NFL, All American”. Mediocre. “If a frog had wings, we’d be undefeated”.Mediocrity again.Get used to it. With all the so-called top recruits every year one would expect more. The SEC has certainly declined.
By A-ville Ranger
October 22, 2007 7:49 PM | Link to this
Stafford will likely be a better pro some day.Right now though there’s no comparison,Tebow is much more valuable to his team than Stafford.If Stafford develops timimg and touch on the deep ball he could be as good as any around.I’d like to say I know he’ll do it at UGA,I think he will, but he seems to have regressed a little the last couple of games.We all keep waiting for that game where Staff throws 4 or 5 tds by hitting deep and stretching the defense.If he does that it’ll take pressure off everybody,both on offense and defense.
By Colleen
October 22, 2007 7:59 PM | Link to this
How can anyone compare Stafford to Tebow!? That is a MAN playing compared to a boy! He is fearless and strong and exciting! I can’t wait to see the Gator eat the Dawgs!
By 77DAWG
October 22, 2007 8:02 PM | Link to this
Tebow plays for GA, we will be 1-6 right now (Martinez stay with GA). Stafford plays for FU, will be 7-0 at this moment(if Martinez also call D at FU, then 2-5 at best). I will keep Stafford at UGA regardless.
By K-man
October 22, 2007 8:08 PM | Link to this
Tebow - he HATES to lose, he works out tirelessly in the weight room (the coaches won’t let him bench any more than the 400 pounds he carrently hefts), he is a fearless and effective runner and he is a much improved passer. He is another model for a future prototype NFL quarterback - and you can always play him at linebacker if he has the energy!
By Mike Curtis-Alpha Dawg
October 22, 2007 8:08 PM | Link to this
Tebow or Stafford? Truly do not know yet. I do know they are both 5-2. Toughest division in best conference in the land. The Chattanooga Free-Press reported in Sept. that UGA had the best overall record over the last 10 years and 5 years. 97-32 and 54-16 I believe. Just ahead of Fla. and LSU which makes Fla.’s 8-2 record all the more impressive during that time. Tebow appears to be a Superman at this time with the same record as Stafford’s. However, remember Gators, before you start celebrating early this year, Since losing to Kentucky last year,Matthew has beaten 5 ranked teams[4 in a row] and a #4 team[Auburn] by 30 pts. And remember Dawg fans, before you get too critical, no other true freshman/soph. in the country has done the same—including Tim Tebow. We all know the defense will be the factor in our being able to compete. Tebow or Stafford? That’s why they play the game.
By The Murf
October 22, 2007 8:11 PM | Link to this
Are you kidding??? One is a heisman hopeful his soph year, the other is the most overrated hyped up QB in UGA’s history.
By BCD
October 22, 2007 8:17 PM | Link to this
Nice post Mike…. I hope he and out D play lights out this weekend!!!!
BCD
By Mike Curtis-Alpha Dawg
October 22, 2007 8:22 PM | Link to this
That’s what everyone said last year,Big Bug! Then Fla. had to beg to get into the NC Game after the annointed USC Trojans lost to that great ucla bruin team. And we know what happened then! Only time I ever pulled for a Gator—and the last!
By War Eagle
October 22, 2007 8:25 PM | Link to this
AS of today, LSU is best team in SEC and country, Tebow is Offense # 1 and Dorsey LSU is defense #1 Coach- Will Muschamp Auburn DC with a freshman and RSF defense who plays tough. # 1 freshman(tie) Moreno, UGA, Zemibia, OT Auburn. SEC title game South Carolina - LSU, LSU then toppling Ohio State or Oklahoma for MNC. #1 courage award, Vandy, Auburn slaughter, UGA winning last minute, but comes back shuts down #6, South Carolina for a big win in SEC East. Coach of 1/2 Year season, Coach Sly Miss State with 4 wins and a chance to win 6 and beat Bama… SEC rankings.. LSU, Auburn, Florida, South Carolina
By Rob
October 22, 2007 8:28 PM | Link to this
Tebow’s going to get hurt. Can’t keep tyring to power through SEC defenses and not take a beating May not be this year, but it will take it’s toll. Give me a Good offensive line and Stafford any day.
By BeachGaBulldog
October 22, 2007 8:29 PM | Link to this
I will take Matt Stafford EVERY TIME! There are two things that the Gator fans have labeled Tebow. “God” and “Legend”. GIVE ME A DAMN BREAK! Bear Bryant is a legend. Vince Dooley is a legend. The second label is the stupidest thing that has ever been used to describe an individual. Tebows going to need God to heal him when he keeps running and getting the crap knocked out of him. Its a team game. We don’t rely solely on Matt like the Gators do with Tebow. GO MATT! GO DAWGS!
By Denver Dog
October 22, 2007 8:40 PM | Link to this
T bone beau is a great full back. He is 22 years old. He is in the mold of that other fellow from Free shoes that was 25 when he graduated. Stafford is 19 and is a better pure quarterback than T bone. T bone is a great 60’s vinatge quarterback. Imagine him in a wishbone. Emory Ballard would have loved that.
Now if I am Oscar Meyer I would put a real quarterback in there, and let T bone take some snaps line them up in double back formation and see what happens.
Imagine how good they’d be then.
So Oscar Meyer maybe you won’t lose but one more game with your scheme. Oh yeah, now that Zooks players are almost all gone. Go recruit some more fullbacks.
By Denver Dog
October 22, 2007 8:47 PM | Link to this
Dawg Crazy,
TBONE did not win the national championship. He was not even the starter. He was the best fullback in the game.
On another note, we are setting up for the same thing this year. Ohio plays no-one, then gets to go to the BCS championship game while teams like LSU will have a loss or two to real teams and not get to go.
If you want to complain about something, complain about that. Remember the War Eagles got hosed when they went 13-0
By Denver Dog
October 22, 2007 9:01 PM | Link to this
Hey Atlanta Gator man,
Good luck to you on Sat. Visor is in trouble at SC for the same stuff that he got away with at UF.
Compared to UF, UGA is just a small school in the foothils of the Appalachians. You may want to check into your facts about your teams though. I’m not so sure about your “non-investigative? status. So even after all of that cheating, Pell couldn’t win the championship.
I was wondering where you learned to read, but I think that you said you grew up in Atlanta. I don’t think that they could read in FLA until Castro started sending refuges in the late 50’s.
So you have a degree in basketweaving, and drawing lines on a street. What is your third degree? At UF you can get them all at the same time can’t you?
By CapeCodDawg
October 22, 2007 9:05 PM | Link to this
Tebow broke EVERY meaningful passing record in Florida H.S. football history. True he does have better players around him,but he also can run the ball effectively…actually extremely well. I love the Dawgs,but so far it isn’t even close. True, Tebow has better players around him,but he also makes plays by himself Matt hasn’t done that yet and his receivers can’t catch the ball further hurting his numbers. It’s a shame that he won’t get a top notch WR until his junior year….What happened to Massaquoi? The only skill position getting drafted next year (in the top 4 Rnds.)is at the FB position and as I read recently ,thats a fast fading position. Matt and the rest of the Dawgs better step up big time,if not it can quickly turn into Tennessee all over again. LETS GO ! LETS GO!!!
By Cuz
October 22, 2007 9:08 PM | Link to this
For all you fans who think that football commands your life, this is for you. My best friends wife’s daughter was killed in a murder suicide one year ago today. Today she killed herself from the grief. I have a window of an hour or more before they kill this blog. People, football is fun, life is real. Learn to tell the difference.
By Replay
October 22, 2007 9:11 PM | Link to this
Chip,
In your article you wrote: “I realize these are hypothetical and very subjective questions. But, come on, this is a blog! So let’s keep the discussion to Xs and Os and thoughtful observations and leave out the team fanaticism…”
WHAT? That is the quintessential example of a contradiction!
By ES
October 22, 2007 9:28 PM | Link to this
.There is no doubht that Matt has looked bad on the long ball,and I dont like just handing him the job without earning it.I know if Cox hadn’t come in against Colorado last year we lose.Richt said at the first of the year Cox was going to play and that he had earned that right in practice.What has happened is coach is to worried about the Pysche of his Potential superstar.IMO most big armed guys has not done as well in college as the real smart acurate guys and I think that is what we potentially have in Cox but we are not going to know unless Matt gets hurt.
By Gamecock Chrissy
October 22, 2007 9:50 PM | Link to this
Best laugh I’ve had all week. This question can’t be serious. Kegboy in the same breath as Tebow? Come on.
By RednekDawg
October 22, 2007 9:53 PM | Link to this
CUZ - get a grip pal…we don’t need that !@#$ bringn down the Dawg nation!!! Keep the family stuff to yer self ok buddy…er….aaaaaawffuuuuufffffffffffff
By AltamahaDawg
October 22, 2007 9:55 PM | Link to this
Well Buck I have to admit, I did kind of know the answer to my questions before I asked it. I think its just style really. As I can see, there is a whole lot of Tebow deliberately scrambling, drawing the D to him that creates some open receivers. So what looks like a busted play, is partly controlled choas, or at least an accepted option. The Gators do seem to be very good as creating something from nothing and for whatever reason, have got to have an NCAA record of flat out missed tackles against. Uga on the other hand is really not a scramble and see who can break free type of offense, we have designed plays that either work or look horrible. In the FWIW categories, I believe that in time, the perfectly executed play style will be better and ultimetely harder to defend. Unfortunetely, we have been stuck in the ugly category for a while. I can’t beleive anybody that has seen a UGA game this year really thinks the Dawgs have been as good as they are capable. I would think, to the unbiased observer, that its really a matter of UGA just not doing what its supposed to be doing. More to the point, Matthew Stafford’s offense seems to me, as if its only about half of its potential, while at UF, I cant see getting anymore out of this have Tim Tebow do everything plan.
By Dan
October 22, 2007 9:59 PM | Link to this
Stafford still looks like the Pillsbury Doughboy. Someone his age packing all that weight will not go far in college and will be a 3rd or 4th round draft choice at best.
Tebow eventually will break down with all the hits he takes but there is no comparison for now - Tebow in a landslide
By ES
October 22, 2007 10:49 PM | Link to this
BTW Will you Bulldog fans get off the Tebow band wagon please.YOU WOULD THINK THE GATORS ARE UNDEFEATED.In the Auburn LOSS on his first 10 of 13 carries was 3 yards or less.Thats what got them down 17 to 3.Finished the game 19 carries for 75 yards less that 4 yards a carry.Then with 4 minutes left in the game couldnt pick up a first down when the game was tied and on the line.Actually had only 14 first downs the whole ball.The other loss LSU he was 12 for 26 passing.His last 3 possessions in the 4th quater.He looked like Matt on that pass one throw a missle off the receivers helment only 5 yards across the middle for int.Next poss 2 of 3 incomplete and punt.Last possession 4 of 5 incompletions.BTW he gained 21 yards with the scramble which left the team with only seconds to go in the game boosting once again this awesome runners stats to 16 runs 67 whopping yards,otherwise 15 for 45 yards.Guys he piled up the run yards against bad defenses like TN and Miss.Ive watched almost every game this year and he has played real good, but great like yall are making him out no way.He could have made the plays in those two losses at the end of the game and didnt!So please stop acting like hes Michael Vick.He is aversion of a big full back.I worry about the day when Urban turns lose a kid that can take off and really hurt you in that spread.Sorry for the long blog but I’ve heard enough to make me sick.And yes hes out played Matt but so has about 30 other QB’s in the country.
By chris
October 22, 2007 10:52 PM | Link to this
TECH FAN that was at the BAMA game when BOBO gave the starting QB position to E. ZEIER(? spelling). The real “DREAMLAND” is great. D. Greene was better. Now, CMR says that MS7 is the best? Ha Ha HA. He is fat, over-rated, and lazy. He could not hold E. ZEIER’S Jock or even think to be on the same feild with D. Greene. He will get his butt handed to him again this week in JAX. See you THANKSGIVING. #42,#41,#93, and #1 want to say HI.
By ATL Gator
October 22, 2007 10:55 PM | Link to this
FYI, UF lost its senior captain offensive tackle Phil Trautwein for the season and plugged in a freshman….a Meyer recruit. The Zooker is gone.
The Tebow/Stafford question is as ridiculous as asking who is better between Tom Brady and Joey Harrington. Tebow would be great if he played for UGA, USF, Vandy or Kentucky. He is a special player - just accept that and give the guy his due. He has earned it.
Stafford would surely fare better as a Gator than as a Dawg, because he would not be the victim of so many dropped passes and would be the beneficiary of athletic WR breaking long runs after the catch. Stafford’s problem appears to be consistency. Some games he is outstanding, others he is terrbile. Tebow is as consistent as it gets.
UF is not taking UGA lightly - it is always a war no matter the line, the talent level, or what’s at stake!
By chris
October 22, 2007 11:01 PM | Link to this
Please name the last great UGA QB in the NFL. It is actually Hines Ward as a no-QB for the Steelers. Belue, Carter, Greene, Zeier, Bobo or WHO? Thanks sonny for your vent but you are full of DAWG POOP. Tebow, keep loving GOD and working on your life as a PERSON while FAT MATT likes KEGS and skipping class.
By mark
October 22, 2007 11:05 PM | Link to this
I’ve read some pitful things from some very shallow people on this blog before , but Rednekdawg set a new standard with his post this evening. Unless you are 10 years old, there may be no hope for you.
Mark
By AltamahaDawg
October 22, 2007 11:17 PM | Link to this
Poor Uf had to plug in a freshman in between the other senior and redshirt junior linemen, What a tough break. Honestly I dont know how they won a game.
ATL Gator, your point is well (typed) about MS/TT. I was tying to make about the same in hopes of looking for bright spot. Ms has been inconsistant, but I think any casual observer can say, if he ever does become less so, he will be fun to watch. And the Dawgs will be much better as a result. In Tebow’s case, he has been steady, predicatable, and consistant, but I’d say for UF to become a better team, it actualy involves less of his personal heroics.
By ES
October 22, 2007 11:22 PM | Link to this
Chris name the last great Fl QB in the NFL.
By John
October 22, 2007 11:27 PM | Link to this
Tebow is annoying, but he is a beast. Comparing the two is not fair to Stafford. Georgia fans need to realize that Stafford is an average SEC QB right now. He has potential, but that only gets you so far. Tebow might win the Heisman. ALso, if Tebow played for Georiga, they would change their system to fit him in. He is the type player taht you do that for. Stafford does not have the best receivers, but Tebow is Florida’s only option running the ball. I would take Tebow, Woodson, JP Wilson, and Ainge all over Stafford. It is just not clicking for him. He might be a beter pro quarterback, but we are not talking about the pros. You can only live on potential for so long. It is time for Stafford to step up if he is going to.
By ES
October 22, 2007 11:32 PM | Link to this
Altamaha thats the point I was making about the Auburn game.Tim takes off over 50 percent of the time according to his own coach.How many times that he runs for 5 yards could he possibly hang in the pocket for one of them awesome receivers to get open for much bigger plays.Im telling you ten of his first 13 runs was for 3 yards or less against Auburn.During that span they got down 17 to 3.
By Buck in the NW
October 22, 2007 11:38 PM | Link to this
Altahama, I’ve never seen a QB jerked back and forth the way Matthew Stafford was until the Ky. game of last year. I’ve also never seen such improvement in such a short turn a round period as “06”. “‘07”? Like a Yo-Yo and no one seems to know why or they aren’t saying. I’ll be there pulling for the Dawgs but I have no idea as to what type of team will show up. I do believe that it’s hard for any QB to have his timing down when he’s throwing to so many different receivers. He’s been coached to where the staff wants him to be and that is no pics to speak and maybe 2 fumbles the whole season but we only have 8 TD passes so maybe this is what Bobo was looking for and for the RBs to be the big play makers.(Alta, I’m wide open for other suggestions) I don’t believe we can win this Sat running the ball. I’m sure the the Reptile coaches saw that army of orange in the box won’t will do the same. I really hope Moreno doesn’t go down and Southerland can catch the ball. We’ve just got to be creative to have chance.
By smp
October 22, 2007 11:46 PM | Link to this
Right now, I think everything points to Tebow being the best of the two. Watching them I think its not only a matter of talent around them but also maturity. Just looking at the two of them you see the difference. Tebow looks like a chiseled statue and Staff seems to still be carrying a little baby fat. Also, consider Tebow has spent time going on missions to other countries while Staff knows picking up an empty beer keg is really impressive to a certain kind of young lady. I’m not saying one is better than the other, in fact when I was 19 I would have chosen the latter. In fact, I’d still choose the latter. But, I think it can make a diffence in emotional maturity, and it shows on the field. As far as the NFL is concerned, Stafford I believe has the better potential as a QB but he needs to start getting his stuff together. I’m not sure if Tebow’s ability will translate to the pros. I’ve seen comparisons to Vick and Steve Young and he is a completely different type of runner. He’s more like a powerback who looks for contact instead of an elusive scrambler. Also, I have a sneaking suspicion that as Urban Meyer’s career in college progresses and we get a better sample , Tim Tebow may one day be looked at as a system quarterback who ran the system very well.
By Dawgs Always LICK BALLS
October 22, 2007 11:48 PM | Link to this
HAS THERE EVER BEEN A MORE OVERRATED TEAM THAN GA!!!! YOU SUCK EVERY YEAR!!!
By Cuz
October 23, 2007 12:00 AM | Link to this
Guys I gotta tell you this. I have said more than once, life is real, football is fun.
Most of the times it has had to do with my daughter and her surgeries.
Tonight, my best friend’s wife killed herself. Fire Willie Martinez just dont mean krap to me now. Think people what is important. I would give the next twenty year lossses to have my best friend have his wife back. Beter read this while you can, the editors take it away Tuesday. Sorry, dont care who wins now.
By Cuz
October 23, 2007 12:08 AM | Link to this
Dawgs always, you would have to stand on your grandma’s shoulders just to lick my ankles, you pathetic piece of krap.
By Cuz
October 23, 2007 12:11 AM | Link to this
Licker, if you are not ten years old, you really look like a dirtbag.
By Goldendawg84
October 23, 2007 12:16 AM | Link to this
Atlanta Gator - Really enjoyed your first post - Great stuff.
MS vs TT is not close. MS may have a great pro career but there is no current evidence to support that theory-just wishful thinking at this point. If MS does have a great pro career, we’ll likely look back at his tenure at UGA and ask why he wasn’t a difference maker in college (like 10 or so recent successful NFL dawgs).
Speaking of wishful thinking, that is all we have to cling to every year in the damn WLOCP. Even when we are the better team we almost always manage to blow it (this year, we are decidedly not the better team). Reminds me of Lucy pulling the football away from Charlie Brown. Every year I manage just enough amnesia from the year before to convince myself we have a chance-only to be smacked with reality again and again. It’s beyond tiring.
Cuz – That is a terrible story. If that happened today, and to your best friend’s wife no less, why are you on here happily typing away regarding the merits of MS vs TT and defending WM? That would be the last thing on my mind. Maybe it is you that needs the lesson in perspective regarding life vs football.
By Jim Donnan
October 23, 2007 12:17 AM | Link to this
Imagine a little baby being born 5 minutes ago. Now imagine this little infant progressing through the toddler stage and the “Terrible 2’s and 3’s, and now visualize the child entering nursery school and progressing into kindegarten, working through elementary school, junior high and high school and the young adult has now turned 17 and is entering Senior Year——-Now just realize if this child had been born 17 years ago, he or she would have seen Georgia beat Florida twice!!!!
Who cares about whether Stafford or Tebow is better. A series where one team wins 15 out of the last 17 and with numerous SEC Championships and 2 National Championships is threatening to disintegrate out of rivalry status.
Georgia hasn’t been truly relevant on the national scene since 1983(at least they now have a reputable radio play by play man on the road) and as long as CMR—And I don’t believe you bestow the honor of initials on a coach that has never played for a BCS Championship—is plying his skill as the little choir boy on the sideline, Well, It really doesn’t matter Tebow or Stafford. All you need to know is Florida and Georgia. And we know where that is going.
By the way, why does a school so close to Atlanta choose to take the tune of “The Battle Hymn of the Republic” as its fight song?? Wasn’t that the anthem of the Union Army?? And just because you change the words to “Glory, Glory To Old Georgia”, I still believe it might be a bad choice for this portion of the country.
By Cuz
October 23, 2007 12:18 AM | Link to this
I almost wrote, try to be civil, the heck with that, Dawgs win in an upset 38-3. Suburban Creyer asks for a new hankie.
By Big Dawg
October 23, 2007 12:23 AM | Link to this
Cuz- Go be with your friend. Why are you on here insulting people? Talk to your real friends - not us.
By Cedartown Bulldog
October 23, 2007 12:25 AM | Link to this
Fool me once——Cuz aka General,etc bs’d us about his sick daughter,now the twisted s.o.b is giving us this garbage about a friend’s kid dying.He goes too far in my opinion,please don’t buy his nonsense this time.
By Cuz
October 23, 2007 12:34 AM | Link to this
Golden, look at the timeline, I found out when all were going home, past five o’clock. Sorry at five, it was only thirty minutes old.
By shane
October 23, 2007 12:34 AM | Link to this
buck,i think you are overlooking one factor.i have read about tebow’s off season workout program.it was a freakish,thomas brown type schedule.i am not saying stafford doesn’t work at his craft,he does,and he works hard.anyone in a program like uga’s has to work hard.there is always some talented guy working his tail off to take your job.there is a difference in working hard and being a freak though,and tebow is a freak.do you have any idea how much time it takes in the weight room for a 250 lb man to work his way up to benching 400 lbs?then tebow put in extra work on his throwing motion,footwork,and speed.also,meyer runs a complicated offense,a lot of four reciever sets,special plays to get harvin the ball,and a lot of misdirections,end arounds,different shifts,etc.tebow had to learn this offense well enough to take it over and run it.two years ago there were three very talented qbs coming out of high school,stafford,tebow,and mustain.stafford came to uga and took the starting job,richt did not give it to him,he took it.that is the way it is in major college football.mustain went to ark thinking nutt was going to”give”him the starting spot.when he didn’t get it he had two choices,he could have kept his mouth shut,helped the team by supporting the starter and worked his way in,or he could cop an attitude,snipe at his coach,and disrupt the team.he chose the latter,and he has disappeared.tebow played a role as a freshman,backed the starter,and helped his team win a nc.in the meantime he redoubled his efforts and prepared himself to take over this year.give tebow his due,he worked for it and earned everything he has gotten.i have read many post on this blog saying that richt favored seniors,or favored one player over another player,or “gave”thomas brown the starting job.they are so far off the mark as to be almost idiotic.richt doesn’t”give”anyone anything,and he shouldn’t.thomas got the starting job because he took it.now moreno is starting because of brown’s injury,but he is going to have to fight like hell to keep it when thomas heals,because brown is going to work even harder to take it back.
By Jax Dawg
October 23, 2007 12:34 AM | Link to this
We all like you Cuz, but damn man, it’s like you are screaming for attention. If you want to write something, spend some time writing a eulogy not dealing with this junk. We all deal with bad stuff in our lives, this is supposed to be an escape from that. Don’t waste time killing the messenger either. On second thought, if it makes you feel better, go ahead. Sorry for your loss.
By grilleth braums
October 23, 2007 12:38 AM | Link to this
I’m not giving up on Stafford just yet. True, he has not played impressively on a consistent basis, but some folks develop and mature at different speeds. This season is by no means over, but he still has a whole junior and senior season ahead of him. If and when he gets a good veteran O-line in front of him, then we can judge how good he really is.
At this point in this season, Tebow is no doubt the better quarterback. He’s practically the entire Florida offense.
However, if Stafford can play to his abilities consistently, I’d have to give the edge to Stafford as being the better pro QB. Pocket passers win championships, period. Who’s ever won a Super Bowl on their legs and not with their arms?
By Goldendawg84
October 23, 2007 12:40 AM | Link to this
OK-sorry bout that Cuz
By Cuz
October 23, 2007 12:48 AM | Link to this
Cedartown, may the Lord bless you that you never have to go through some of us on this blog have been through. Just to let you know, the General and I are two seperate people.
My daughter, who you make fun of, has an incurable disorder that will stay with her for the rest of her life, thanks for caring.
Today, my best friends wife blew her brains all over their tub, thanks for caring about that.
Many of us, probably not me, will not be posting next year because we will be dead. Thanks for caring about that also.
You are one cold heartless son of a female dog and if you care to come to Augusta Georgia, I will meet you in any parking lot you chose. Name the day, time and hour, see you there.
By Cuz
October 23, 2007 1:00 AM | Link to this
Jax, you are right, sorry to burden you. Sometimes I forget that it is not Buck’s, Wareagales, Generals, realitiys, godawags, altamaha, shanes, bigdawgs, ncdawgs, palmettodawgs, upstatedawg, zoodawag, samoan, geechee and my blog. I forget that I am talking to other than my friends. I will respect that from now on and try not to upset you. Sorry to ruin your life tonight. I guess you have better things to deal with. I did not mean to upset your applecart. Guess you have not been on this blog for long. Us oldtimers forget that youngsters join us. Some of us know our personal lives. My guess is that you aint one of them.
By shane
October 23, 2007 1:05 AM | Link to this
cuz,sorry about the bad news.hang in there.
By Cedartown Bulldog
October 23, 2007 1:09 AM | Link to this
Sell your bs somewhere else.Anybody who’s followed the garbage you post knows what trash it is.I’ve had my share of problems,as have we all.That doesn’t make me a fool,and only a fool would buy your childish nonsense after all we’ve seen.What you are is a sick,twisted,joke.
By Cuz
October 23, 2007 1:12 AM | Link to this
Big Dawg, I appreciate your comment, it was still a crime scene. I could not go.
All I am trying to do to the unanointed is let them know that life is not a football game. It is a pity few belive it.
And anyone that thinks I am lying about my daughter, you buzzards go to google and hit search and look up Baylie Symms. That ought to give you son of a guns that never had anything difficult in your life something to think about. Come to Augusta, I will buy you a beer and introduce you to Baylie.
By Cuz
October 23, 2007 1:22 AM | Link to this
Ceadartown, I guess you are right. You in particular, take Jax with you. This blog has become a connection that many of us use as a way of letting each other know how we are doing. You, could join us, but you care not. Atlanta Gator and gator the dawg catcher are welcomed here. You, sorry to say, can’t shine Atlanta Gator’s shoes. I guess every party has to have it’s Pooper, and you must be it. Now when was the last time you said anything positive about the Dawgs. I think you are a bug, in bugs clothing.
By Cuz
October 23, 2007 1:28 AM | Link to this
Cedartown, you and your town are the worst part of this state, and unfortunately, I have been there. The worst Dairy Queen I ever ate at in my, or any others, life.
By Jax Dawg
October 23, 2007 1:43 AM | Link to this
Cuz-seek help!
By Beverly Quarles
October 23, 2007 1:48 AM | Link to this
Cuz You seem like somebody I’d like to get to know.
By shane
October 23, 2007 2:31 AM | Link to this
WTF is cedartown anyway?i’ve never been there,so i’ll take your word on it cuz.keep on blogging friend.
By Lee
October 23, 2007 2:47 AM | Link to this
Right now, Tebow’s the better quarterback. Not even close.
The frustrating thing to me about MS is the inconsistency. The latter part of the 2006 season, he put together some great games and the consensus was that he had finally arrived.
December 2006 to present day, MS has not progressed and in many aspects, has regressed.
Personally, I would like to see Richt put in one of the other quarterbacks for a couple of series each game. Might light a fire under MS.
One more thing, Cuz, challenging someone to a fight on an internet blog speaks volumes about your maturity. I’ve seen you do that on several occasions. Grow up.
By Cedartown Bulldog
October 23, 2007 3:21 AM | Link to this
Shane is Cuz is General Neyland.What a nut job you are,should I name some more of your little characters ?
By Buck in the NW
October 23, 2007 3:42 AM | Link to this
shane, you may have a point about the work out but Stafford was in H.S. his team ran nothing Spread and that also calls for a lot of reading defensive formations Stafford’s GPA has been and is very high. He can make the reads but does his receivers know what to do?……One example and I’ll ring off so’s not to hog. Ala. game: The OT winning TD. That same play had been called 3 times earlier in the game. the 1st time, the receivers lined up in the wrong formation forcing Stafford to audible out. 2nd time the ball hit Henderson in his hands, went through them and bounced off his shoulder pads. 3d time is “History”. We don’t know how many times receivers are breaking off patterns, not running full speed or not helping their QB out when he needs help. Tim Tebow is an outstanding QB. Stafford can and will be also……….Has anyone read the article in the ESPN.COM?. As soon as the ‘Cats had beat LSU, Tebow said his cell rang and it was Meyer calling him to start planning for Ky. Tells me he’s involved in the game plan and I wonder if Bobo or Richt were on the horn to Stafford as soon as the Reptile game was over Sat…….Chip will never get this far down the blog but there’s a question for him to ask Stafford. Love to know the answer to that one….sorry, took to long..
By Buck in the NW
October 23, 2007 4:50 AM | Link to this
Cedartown Bulldog, cuz isn’t Gen Neyland. I talked with the Gen. earlier tonight as I’m packing to head to the “Party”. Late here, early there, but read the Athens Banner-Hearld, dogbyte sec. Caleb King has been working out with the big boys.
By SickAndTired
October 23, 2007 6:49 AM | Link to this
This has to be a trick question…because at this point to ever mention Stafford n the same sentence with Tebow is an embarrassment to Stafford because he doesn’t belong in that conversation.
By mike
October 23, 2007 6:55 AM | Link to this
what a bunch of dumb answers to a dumb question asked by a dumb sportwriter. what difference does any these answers make on either team.
By Dawgs Lick Balls
October 23, 2007 7:05 AM | Link to this
TELL YOUR PROBLEMS SOMEWHERE ELSE!!! WE ALL HAVE PROBLEMS, YOUR FRIENDS WIFE COULDN’T CUT IT IN THE REAL WORLD SO SHE TOOK THE EASY WAY OUT!! MAYBE SHE KNEW HOW PATHETIC YOU WERE AND HAVING TO ASSOCIATE WITH YOU, SHE DECIDED TO END IT. YOU, MY FRIEND, CAN’T HANDLE THE REAL WORLD IN THE TRAILER PARK!!! KISS MY A$$ CUZ!!!
By Cuz
October 23, 2007 7:17 AM | Link to this
I am going to take a break from the blog for awhile, life is a little more important than football. See you guys on the other side. Sorry to have dragged some of you into the real world. Go have fun in your make believe one.
By Huh? WTF?
October 23, 2007 7:39 AM | Link to this
Only in an Atlanta paper would this question even be raised. It’s a joke. Tebow is Heisman candidate and Stafford isn’t even one of the best 20 QBs in the nation. The rest of the country would look at this article and respond with nothing more than Matthew WHO?
Bravo to C.Powers for giving you perennial National Championship posers something to talk about on a blog.
By Danimal
October 23, 2007 7:44 AM | Link to this
Tebow is the total package. Stafford is an OK QB, but not up to the task of winning consistantly in the SEC.
By DuluthDAWG
October 23, 2007 7:52 AM | Link to this
Who gives a rat’s a**? It’s gonna be another 7-5 (or, at best, 8-5) season for the Dawgs. S.O.S.O. We just don’t have the horsepower at the very top to get the players we need and that didn’t start with Richt. I can’t bear to watch the Gay-tors beat hell out of my Dawgs again so I’ll hid my head and wait for another trouncing from Kentucky, and, quite possibly Auburn. Geez, if Tech beats the Dawgs this year it suicide time. DuluthDawg
By Derek
October 23, 2007 8:00 AM | Link to this
Tebow all day!!!!
By GatorDad
October 23, 2007 8:03 AM | Link to this
Hey “Luvmydawgs”- If your boy Stafford could do half of what Tebow does and then he jumped up and down and did what Tebow does, you would eat it up with your grits and hog jowls…and it isn’t necessary to call him a Gaydor -it shows your remarkable lack of intellect and intelligence, so that anything else written after that is not worth the keystrokes or the reading… Go Gators!(that’s how it is really spelled…)
-Dawgs Long Gone
By ICMIII
October 23, 2007 8:05 AM | Link to this
I am a UGA grad, so it pains me to admit this: Tim Tebow is a man through and through. Matthew Stafford looks, plays and acts like a little boy. And the Pillsbury Doughboy at that.
By jim
October 23, 2007 8:06 AM | Link to this
I would like to see GA run the wishbone against FL! The idea of fresh legs is great but, the O needes to be on the field long enough to get warmed up. If we play like we did against TN it’s going to be a long day. CMR needs to take a lesson from Spurrier and set Stafford down and see if the bench may motivate him some.
By PlainJohn
October 23, 2007 8:13 AM | Link to this
Simple: Who would you rather have starting for your team this week? The overwhelmingly honest answer would be Tebow. Apart from player skills an all-star QB must also possess charisma and pazazz. Tebow is the hands down winner, not even close. His injury will definitely hamper and will give the dawgs their only chance to win; otherwise, a “bet the farm” situation.
By PadreGator
October 23, 2007 8:15 AM | Link to this
Hey Guys,
If you all spent less time calling each other names and just stick with the question, it might be a little better for all. Now, to answer the question:Tebow now, Tebow later on in NCAA career after a Heisman, and Tebow will be a terrific NFL QB that will accomplish great things in the pros-no way is a he just a product of any one system.Look at his High School career numbers, look at what he has done in a very short span of time at UF, and you have a pretty good indicator of what he will accomplish. God Bless Tebow and Go Gators!
By scdawg
October 23, 2007 8:16 AM | Link to this
Tebow is a playermaker Stafford is not.
By 78Gator
October 23, 2007 8:30 AM | Link to this
There is no comparison. Tebow will go down in history as one of the best QB’s ever to play in college. He will adapt his game for the pro’s and be just as successful because he is a winner. I’m tired of all the excuses GA fans give for their team. As the ole ball coach used to say, GA also seems to have a great recruiting class. I don’t know what happens to them when they get there. Tebow has completed 66% of his passes and twice as many long TD’s than Stafford. So to say he’s 1 dimentional is a crock.
By Lowcountry Bulldawg
October 23, 2007 8:32 AM | Link to this
Yeah, this is was easy. Who has a ring? Even if he was not th primary QB he was a key to it.
He makes plays all voer the field and has the size and armstrenght to play in the NFL.
Meyer already has one young QB in the NFL in Alex Smith who came into the NFL AT 20.
Tebow hands down is better. No question,can’t make the argument.
By JDW
October 23, 2007 8:35 AM | Link to this
Bottom line is who cares? The only thing that matters is what happens from now forward and my money is on Stafford. Same thing with our ineptness in this game since Dooley retired. Maybe CMR needs to go over to Dooley’s house, have a few cold ones and learn how to prepare a team for this game. Then we can start a streak of our own. Time to stop the whining get with the winning.
By CKDawg65
October 23, 2007 8:36 AM | Link to this
Matt Stafford has done something on multiple occasions now that Tebow has not…brought his team from behind in the 4th quarter to win. This being said, he/we need to be better in the first 3 quarters so those late heroics aren’t necessary. I am not one to write the boys off right now, but the next 4-5 games are brutal and Stafford’s level of play must improve drastically if we are to go .500 or better in those games. Long term I think Stafford will be the better pro…I think he has “it” that good pro QB’s have.
By gdawgfan
October 23, 2007 9:04 AM | Link to this
As usual Mathew Stafford is being hyped up to be this great QB. He is average at best, but i think he flaw is that he is not getting good coaching at UGA. He constantly over throws receivers and he throws of his back foot. Tebow is so much better that Stafford it shouldnt even be a discussion.Mathews arm is better that Tebows, but Tebow puts the ball where it needs to be whether it is a spiral or not. Tebow is tougher mentally and physically and he makes better decisions than stafford. AInge, Tebow, Woodson are all better than Stafford and as faR as him being a better pro, thats up for grabs as well. he Either the coaches at Georgia are teaching the proper way to play quarter back and he is not listening, or they are not teaching him. David Greene was the best quaterback Georgia has ever had, with Bobo a close second. DJ shockley with more playing time could have been the best. CBS will pump up Stafford vs Tebow and they will dog Stafford for playing a horrible game! UF 28 UGA 14 Stafford will throw 1 touchdown his stas will look like this 14-28 1 touchdown 2 int.
By Al
October 23, 2007 9:05 AM | Link to this
What you do not understand is TEBOW does not have to play q-b in NFL: He can play Linebacker, Tight End, Wideout….. His options are wide open, it just so happens he is a hell of a q-b and has the right coach…… Stafford is going to be a great Pro Q-B. He will have some good coaches teach him how to be… He is not getting the proper coaching and innovative play calling at georgia…. Ga play calling is way to bland, our routes are really bad and we do not know how to mix plays up…. the best thing we have going is all the other backs are hurt and Morneo will get to show his stuff….. Remember, richt said he was not ready to start two weeks ago and look what he did last week against vandy… that is what is wrong with georgia: the coaches vassilate…….
By reddawg
October 23, 2007 9:07 AM | Link to this
Tebow has been coached UP to his level. Stafford has been coached down to mediocrity. When Stafford signed with Georgia, someone said that he would take Georgia to the MNC several times if the coaches didn’t do anything to screw him up. Congratulations, Bobo/Richt, you did it again.
By GatorGuy
October 23, 2007 9:08 AM | Link to this
You might be the dumbest dawg fan yet. You attacked Atlanta Gator man on his research and education? Are you kidding me? First, Tebow is a 20 year old sophomore (not 22). He is about 7 months older than Stafford but facts are not your strong point. Second , you stated “He is in the mold of that other fellow from Free shoes that was 25 when he graduated.” Might you be referring to Chris Winke from Florida State? You would think a dawg fan would know the difference between UF and FSU. UF is the team that kicks you a$$ every year.
By poobahgator
October 23, 2007 9:10 AM | Link to this
What a silly question. Who cares who will be better in the NFL? For that matter who cares if either make the NFL? Florida has no ambition of being the better NFL farm team - they have the ambition of being the better College Football team. There is no question that Tebow is the better College Football player/quaterback/leader and there is no reason to beleive that this will change. No offense to Stafford, but who can throw the longest interception is not a valid measuring stick for quarterback talent.
By GADAWGS02
October 23, 2007 9:12 AM | Link to this
Superman wears Matthew Stafford pajamas!
By Georgia 74
October 23, 2007 9:20 AM | Link to this
I’ve always been told,”Some cats got it, some cats ain’t, Tebow’s got it Stafford ain’t.”
By Not Buying the Hype
October 23, 2007 9:30 AM | Link to this
IF we can contain Tebow (a big if I am willing to admit), Georgia wins. I’m not kidding. This Florida team is way overhyped. Without Tebow they are nothing. The defense is average at best. Even LOUISVILLE, the worst defense I have ever seen, did a better job of containing Kentucky. And all those playmakers on offense have not panned out. Its the Tim Tebow Show from kickoff to the final whistle. You stop Tebow you stop Florida. That’s living dangerously. When you have to score more than 30 points to win a game you are living on borrowed time.
I’m not saying Georgia will win because Georgia has looked straight awful in recent weeks, but if they play well this matchup is alot closer than its getting credit for. That’s all.
By Joel
October 23, 2007 9:30 AM | Link to this
Stafford overrated. Period. He may get a lot better but he’s undeserving of the hype he’s getting this year. Would he start for even half of the teams in the SEC this year?
By Pago Pago
October 23, 2007 9:55 AM | Link to this
Dawgs fans…..just think, we get CMU and Coastal Carolina…..maybe two wins with these guys?
By DJISTHEGREATESTFOOTBALLPLAYERINTHEHISTORYOFFOOTBALL
October 23, 2007 10:00 AM | Link to this
HEY CLINT How stupid is your statement about Tebow throwing screens. He has over a dozen passes 40 yards DOWNFIELD. Stafford is the guy that throws screens. Stafford can’t has gun…..a musket…its only accurate up close.
By stephen fowler
October 23, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this
stafford doesnt have the tools tebow has. if he did then it would be a totally different conversation last year he threw what 13 picks and 6 tds? now he 10 tds and 4 picks pretty good jumo
By stephen fowler
October 23, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this
stafford doesnt have the tools tebow has. if he did then it would be a totally different conversation last year he threw what 13 picks and 6 tds? now he 10 tds and 4 picks pretty good jumo
By stephen fowler
October 23, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this
stafford doesnt have the tools tebow has. if he did then it would be a totally different conversation last year he threw what 13 picks and 6 tds? now he 10 tds and 4 picks pretty good jumo
By Gen Neyland
October 23, 2007 10:56 AM | Link to this
Cheddartown Bulldog
Truthfully, I am all things and all people blogging. Really, it’s only you and me that blog here. I spend my days posting under as many handles as possible so as to confuse and baffle you. ‘Course I do have to do my 8 hour shift at the Waffle House, which reminds me…This weeks special is Gator Gumbo over a bed of Dawg Poo dirty rice, served hot with saltine crackers and sweet tea…
By GatorGuy
October 23, 2007 11:02 AM | Link to this
Who is better? Well, one is a Heisman contender and the other.. not so much.
By Atlanta Gator
October 23, 2007 11:12 AM | Link to this
Gen Neyland——Can I sign up to be one of your multiple personalities, too? I’m feeling very conspiratorial today. LOL
By Gen Neyland
October 23, 2007 11:29 AM | Link to this
Atlanta Gator
But you are me…As I spend long hours posting replies to myself, I have lost contact with the inner self, not knowing who will be the next TAG I’ll post under. It’s so hard to be witty one minute, dull and boring the next. This must be purgatory…BTW, is there a football game in JAX on Saturday..?
By GE
October 23, 2007 11:38 AM | Link to this
As objective Vol fan, Tebow is better in the college game. As a pro, Stafford will be better if he can develop skills at throwing the deep routes. If Tebow ever demonstrates ability to throw the deep routes, then I would say that he will be better in the pros also(if he does not get killed running the ball so much).
By gdawginkalamazoo
October 23, 2007 11:44 AM | Link to this
cuz, go ahead and vent if you need to. You keep things in perspective. If those other guys don’t like it they can can skip your posts. Sorry for your loss.
By poobahgator
October 23, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this
What a silly question. Who cares who will be better in the NFL? For that matter who cares if either make the NFL? Florida has no ambition of being the better NFL farm team - they have the ambition of being the better College Football team. There is no question that Tebow is the better College Football player/quaterback/leader and there is no reason to beleive that this will change. No offense to Stafford, but who can throw the longest interception is not a valid measuring stick for quarterback talent.
By Atlanta Gator
October 23, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this
Gen Neyland——Are you calling me “dull and boring?” You need to be a little nicer to your multiple personalities; otherwise, you could get into a fist fight with yourself.
By Ed
October 23, 2007 12:09 PM | Link to this
The comparison is not fair because Stafford is a regular football player, and Tebow is arguably the most dominant SEC player since Herschel. Not just quarterback, but PLAYER. He would probably be one of the best running backs or tight ends in the SEC. He would probably be one of the best linebackers, defensive ends, or strong safeties in the league. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if he could kick and punt.
As a true freshman enrolling early and participating in spring practice, there were rumors that some of the defensive players were intimidated by Tebow. In other words, he was hurting college athletes in practice when he should have been completing his senior year of high school. A player like that comes along once in a generation.
Having said all of that - Go Dawgs!
By LMAO
October 23, 2007 12:09 PM | Link to this
Don’t believe the hype?
You’re putting down Florida and saying we are over-rated, and GA just beat it’s first SEC EAST team in since the beginning of last year.
SORRY GEORGIA is the most overrated!!!
By Bob in SF
October 23, 2007 12:22 PM | Link to this
SO let me get this straight…UGA is QB U? According to some of the posters on this thread, it’s as if Shockley, Green, Carter, etc. are all lighting up the NFL. DJ probably will be in the arena league sooner than later. Green is not on an NFL roster after getting cut by the Squawks and Quincy just toked his way out of the AFL2, the arena minor league! Stafford might be a good QB someday but right now I see a streaky passer who occasionally makes great throws and all too often misses the routine ones. And to suggest Richt’s offense is not QB friendly ignores all the evidence. How often do we see the Dawgs line up in the spread or shotgun vs. an inferior D and watch little pitches and sprint draws when they should be using the depth they have (or had before injuries) at TB, line it up in the I behind Southerland and run the ball up someone’s wazoo until they cry? I’m a UGA fan and I’ll be the first to say Stafford isn’t in Tebow’s league right now. Sure Tebow is a FB that can throw a ball 70 yds but his coaching staff uses his tools and the talent around him to win consistently unlike Bobo and Co. are doing for the UGA Offense right now. We can cry all we want about it but Florida is physical in a way UGA hasn’t been since Richt took over. The Dawgs have become a finesse offense with a finesse/speed defense and when it comes down to it they just can’t give someone an old fashioned pucnch in the mouth anymore.
By Gen Neyland
October 23, 2007 12:50 PM | Link to this
Atlanta Gator
You are one of the finer multiples I think to be. Haven’t been diagnosed with masochism, so therefore, I fear no man of whom I am, maybe…as for BuLLdawg, finally suppressed that one…Now, it’s off to the Waffle House…
By UGAy sucks
October 23, 2007 12:52 PM | Link to this
matt Stafford does not even compare to Tebow…..UGA does not compare to UF….hands down…Florida has been the better team for the past 17 years
By mcdawg
October 23, 2007 1:01 PM | Link to this
I am much more concerned about harvin and caldwell than tebow-let him run the ball 20 times and we will win-cannot give up the big plays-here that K. Johnson-reverses etc.. (remember UT game)
By jerrylee
October 23, 2007 1:38 PM | Link to this
tebow now, but definitely Stafford in the future. tebow is a great talent, but urban meyer must soon realize that this is the SEC, not the WAC. The Wac plays pitty-pat touch and they play TACKLE in the SEC. tebow starting to show the effects. Stafford not as accurate as the end of last year but turnovers way down.
By jerrylee
October 23, 2007 1:40 PM | Link to this
tebow now, but definitely Stafford in the future. tebow is a great talent, but urban meyer must soon realize that this is the SEC, not the WAC. The Wac plays pitty-pat touch and they play TACKLE in the SEC. tebow starting to show the effects. Stafford not as accurate as the end of last year but turnovers way down.
By jerrylee
October 23, 2007 1:45 PM | Link to this
tebow now, but definetly Stafford in the future. urban meyer must realize the in the SEC they play TACKLE, not the pitty-pat touch he saw in the WAC.tebow starting to see the effects. Stafford not as accurate as the end of last year bit turnovers way down.
By LOL
October 23, 2007 2:23 PM | Link to this
You mean the pity pat touch we saw that won a National Championship last year. The same offense that GA hasn’t beaten. The same offense that beat Tennessee 3 straight.
Yeah good luck with that reasoning. LMAO
By Nate
October 23, 2007 2:23 PM | Link to this
Hey Bob
When did NFL successes and failures begin presenting themselves as a means of tarnishing or improving a previous college career? As a so-called “UGA fan” maybe you can relate to the differences in Herschel Walker and Terrell Davis. Herschel is arguably the best college football player of all-time who, had he been judged by NFL performance, would be no more than average. (Florida fans…resist the natural urge to be irrational here…I said “arguably” the greatest college player of all-time. So we can argue about it if you would like, just please bring facts with your argument along with the consistently emotional opinions.)
And then there is the Super Bowl MVP Terrell Davis(one of UGA’s 3 to Florida’s 1). He wasn’t exactly lights out in college though.
I guess I just find a lot of fallacies in your argument about UGA’s lack of QB talent. Especially when Green is the most winning quarterback in NCAA history for games he started(sorry Tebow…Chris Leak actually had something to do with those wins last year…imagine that).
But if we must go the NFL route…then well Rex Grossman is a superstar…Doug Johnson a saint.
Danny Wuerffel…does he get to keep the heisman after his lack of performance in the NFL?
Oh, and remember how I said UGA had 3 Super Bowl MVPs…one was Hines Ward…UGA’s QB for a season.
By LOL
October 23, 2007 2:24 PM | Link to this
You mean the pity pat touch we saw that won a National Championship last year. The same offense that GA hasn’t beaten. The same offense that beat Tennessee 3 straight.
Yeah good luck with that reasoning. LMAO
By LOL
October 23, 2007 2:26 PM | Link to this
You mean the pity pat touch we saw that won a National Championship last year. The same offense that GA hasn’t beaten. The same offense that beat Tennessee 3 straight.
Yeah good luck with that reasoning. LMAO
By Agatorinenemyterritory
October 23, 2007 2:32 PM | Link to this
I have had a good laugh reading all the comments from Dawg fans who like to bash their own team as much as their opponents. Most of your ranting is because you have not found a way to get to a national championship in 28 years! Tim Teabow will learn that he cannot carry the team all the time. However, he is an entire package. Will Stafford ever be able to take the Bulldogs to a national championship. I rather have a quarterback who keeps others wondering than a one dimensional QB (Your description not mine) who is so predictable. GO GATORS!!!!!!!
By LOL
October 23, 2007 2:40 PM | Link to this
EVER hear of Emmitt Smith or Fred Taylor dumba$$!!!
By Nate
October 23, 2007 3:23 PM | Link to this
LOL…
There are about 250 posts on this thread…do you mind clarifying who you are calling a dumba$$?
And how is Fred Taylor significant to this conversation…or any conversation? Other than being one of the thousands of generic running backs the NFL has seen.
Remember how in my last post I asked you to resist your natural urge to be irrational and to try backing up emotion with facts…how is that working for ya?
By NOTaNOLE
October 23, 2007 4:01 PM | Link to this
Is this supposed to be humorous or just turning out that way? Listen, Hershel is not coming back, Vince Dooley isn’t either! You mutts haven’t been a rival for over 10 yrs. SEE IF YOU GET THIS… WE WORRY MORE ABOUT U.S.C.east, AND VANDY MORE THEN WE DO GEORGIA! Look you have to win every once in a while against us to talk smack. Your three games shy of being in Kentucky’s shoes as far as being owned by the Gators. So stop pretending Stafford is even close to TT. You will witness a man amongst boys on Sat. and I’m not talking about the party in the georgia tailgate lot!!
By nate
October 23, 2007 4:20 PM | Link to this
TT? Really? What kind of pet name is that?
And don’t play the “Georgia’s not a rival” card. Thats amusing. I guarantee you would not be sitting in front of a blog about the Florida-Vandy game. And I bet you haven’t seen a game in Nash-vegas for years unless it was the same weekend as a mullet convention. So if this isn’t a rivalry game for you…then act like. Don’t sit in front of your computer all day blogging about it. in fact, don’t even bother watching the game on saturday if it’s so insignificant.
And I know that Florida fans don’t know how to be objective and “past” is a relevant term to y’all, but guess what…last years national championship team isn’t coming back again either. That’s in the past too…just like Herschel, Dooley and all the rest. Live in the present yourself…Florida is 5-2…Georgia is 5-2. I’ll let you know the records after this week since I’m sure you have better things to do than watch Florida play Georgia.
By bream
October 23, 2007 4:35 PM | Link to this
This is a tough question. Obviously Tebow is doing better right now. I think he is also the perfect fit for that offense. Stafford would not fit into that at all. That said, do I think Tebow would do good in Georgia’s scheme. Probably so, he could take the hits due to the poor line play because he takes the hits at UF down the field. I don’t know if either of these guys are going to be more than NFL backups. I thought I was watching something special in Stafford at the end of last year and maybe his erratci play is just due to overall offensive problems. But, I can’t say that I’m seeing nearly the desire or drive that Tebow gives you. God, I hate saying this but Tebow is probably better now and in the future. However, it is only year two of both of their careers. How many of us saw this phenomenal play coming from Andre Woodson two years ago.
By shane
October 23, 2007 4:37 PM | Link to this
cedarsumpin,boy are you dumb,i am white and gold,get a clue!
By Nate a dic%
October 23, 2007 4:39 PM | Link to this
It’s good you think you have an air of superiority about things. BUT HONESTLY, you root for a joke of a team, and part of the SEC’s most classless fans.
So NATE THE DUMBA$$, HOW’S LOSING ANOTHER ONE THIS SATURDAY GOING TO AFFECT YOU?
WE’RE NOT VANDY!!! LMAO!!!
By nate
October 23, 2007 4:59 PM | Link to this
Nothing says emotionally strained like all caps and dollar signs.
Still eluded by facts though I see…
By NOTaNOLE
October 23, 2007 5:02 PM | Link to this
nate+comment=joke OOOHHHH, Now I get it. Case you haven’t heard nate, Gator fans fill the stadium against LSU as well as W.Kentucky. It’s called dedicated!! So even though you and the rest of your jean short wearing dogs ARE insignificant, I’ll be watching another beatdown of the puppies LIVE and in person. And by the way, your right about one thing, not much to do on the blogs before the Vandy game, Some teams accept that they are SH*T and don’t write stupid post like this to get a reaction from Us. But a dumb dog is just that, only way to cure that is loaning them to Vick for the weekend!
By nate
October 23, 2007 5:32 PM | Link to this
Still not picking up on the relevance of facts are you? If you were…you wouldn’t waste your time talking about filling up the stadium. Georgia sells out every game…just like Florida(even though we have to pack a couple more thousand in our stadium b/c our dedication keeps making our stadium bigger and bigger.)
Once again, if this isn’t a rivalry…why are you still wasting time here? And did you really try to say UGA fans wear jean shorts? Take a look at any of the pictures the AJC has on this website…10 to 1 Florida in the jean shorts…with mullets to boot.
Oh, but good job on the Vick joke. Very original…
By dealls
October 23, 2007 5:46 PM | Link to this
Gators eat boogers.
By Mike-Alpha Dawg
October 23, 2007 6:57 PM | Link to this
Wow! Finally someone who gets it! Nate-you’re great!!! This game means so much to the Gators that they can’t even reason that an 8-2 record against the SEC’s best team over the last 10 years [97-32] and 5 years[54-15] is very good. Not a rival important enough for Fla.? Fla. was in the SEC championship game last yr. and had to win 21-14 over GA. to get there. Excuse me, when was the last time FLA. was in the game?I truly don’t know, I know Ga. was in it 3 of the last five years-winning twice. And the last time we took the field against LSU and Auburn-Who did Fla. lose to this year and last?— we won by a combined score of 74-26!! And before you Gators look forward to playing Ga. in Athens, Nick Saban and LSU took it on the chin 48-16 in Sanford Stadium in 2004! Georgia fans, there hasn’t been a mismatch this big in Jacksonville since 1966 between Quarterbacks—and we know what happened then between Steve Spurrier and what was that other guys’ name? Way to comeback Nate!
By creoledawg
October 23, 2007 7:24 PM | Link to this
Matt reminds me of Mike Cavan all promise, after his soph year, and no delivery. As much as I hate to think it he’s not even close in terms of talent, drive and dedication. A middle of the road SEC QB no more and sometimes less .
By MississippiDawg
October 23, 2007 7:54 PM | Link to this
The talent level is about even. I hate to say this, but Tebow is a leader…Stafford is not. Plain and simple, thats the difference.
By Steve Prochaska
October 24, 2007 7:30 AM | Link to this
I believe a lot of us are missing the boat. Tebow is deeply committed to his spiritual life. It always will be tough to beat a man who has been raised on Phil. 4:13. His father is an evangelist and runs an orphanage. Tim is an extraordinary athlete blessed with more than just talent.
By CULLOWHEEDAWG
October 24, 2007 10:27 AM | Link to this
Yes for now it is clear that Tebow is the man and he seems much more composed than Stafford. He definitely adds the running aspect. Stafford has not shown much consistency, especially in hitting the long ball which his big arm is supposed to make a threat.
Yes Stafford can look real good for spots, but real slow getting started, guess that goes for the team?? Cullowheedawg
By RxDawg84
October 24, 2007 7:11 PM | Link to this
Wow, Atlanta Gaytor has way too much time on his hands!
By Atlanta Gator
October 25, 2007 8:52 AM | Link to this
RxDawg84——Perhaps so, but this IS the best week of the year to play on the AJC sports blogs. It is the prescription for what ails me. LOl
BTW, as someone who is apparently a pharmacist and at least 43 years old, could you omit the “y,” please? We’re all adults here (well, mostly) … .
By Mike-Alpha Dawg
October 25, 2007 9:58 AM | Link to this
Can someone tell me Stafford’s age and Tebow’s age? I really do not know, are they the same? Also does anyone know where Carter Strickland went to college, and Chip Towers?
By nate
October 25, 2007 10:14 AM | Link to this
Tebow was born August of 1987 and Stafford was born February of 1988. I don’t know about Strickland and Towers alma mater.
By Atlanta Gator
October 25, 2007 4:35 PM | Link to this
Chip Towers is a UGA alumnus from the 1980’s (see today’s UGA Blog). Carter Strickland graduated from Smart A* University summa cum laude.
By Paul
October 25, 2007 5:21 PM | Link to this
If Stafford had a better line, receivers that could catch, and a defense that gets him back on the field quickly (like Tebow has), he’d be a Heisman candidate, and Dawgs would be a 1-loss team at worst. But he doesn’t, they don’t and they aren’t. The beat goes on, sad to say—Gators by 20 or so, as Dawgs continue imploding. Richt needs to go.