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By Hoopergdawg

October 16, 2007 5:51 PM | Link to this

Chip, will you please ask Bobo why Stafford doesn’t seem to be going thru all of his reads? I noticed Saturday at the Vandy game that on most of his deep throws that he had someone wide open underneath. Especially when they were 3rd down and near midfield, Lump was wide open 15 yards downfield and no one was near him and he slings it incomplete down the right side. Also, it was good to see K Johnson show some leadership skills in the second half pumping up the secondary during timeouts.

By Tdawg

October 16, 2007 5:53 PM | Link to this

Seriously there is nothing like a negative beat writer. UGA will make a bowl game they will surprise some people in the next couple of games.

It is tough to say if he is the second best tailback ever. I think he has that potential but i though Lump had great potential also and with all the injuries there is nothing for certain.

The on certain is we will beat Tech and go to a bowl game.

By Long Arm of the Law

October 16, 2007 5:53 PM | Link to this

I saw him get run down from behind in the Vandy game so I’ll wait before saying that he’s special. He’s difinately very good, but is he worthy of all the praise so far? Lets wait and see! Go Dawgs!!

By Dawgswillbeback

October 16, 2007 5:54 PM | Link to this

Let’s give the kid a full season before we start ranking him among the all time list. No doubt he is the real deal to this point. Top five in the modern era 1. Walker 2. Hampton 3. Hearst 4. Worley 5. Pulpwood Smith

**I just say a report that Q. carter was busted with dope again. He has now been kicked out of the NFL, CFL, and the arena 2 leauge for the same problem. Working on his 3rd arrst. What a shame and waste…

By Hoopergdawg

October 16, 2007 5:55 PM | Link to this

Top five: Sorry, couldn’t do five. 7. Tim Worley 6. Robert Edwards 5. Frank Sinkwich 4. Lars Tate 3. Rodney Hampton 2. Garrison Hearst 1. Herschel Walker

By imfire

October 16, 2007 5:55 PM | Link to this

By Fort Worth Dawg

October 16, 2007 5:58 PM | Link to this

Don’t forget the yards per game and the yards per carry comparisons. With an extra game and potentially an SEC Championship game, a running back now stands a better chance to have more yards in total.

By SonuvaDawg

October 16, 2007 5:59 PM | Link to this

He’s the second best “freshman” back we’ve had- time will only tell if he’ll attain elite status among the greats. But you have to think that if he continues to run hard and stay healthy, he’ll be there before it’s over.

I’m ot sure if we should be rushing him 27 times a game, but at the same time if that’s the only thing working then sometimes that’s what has to be done. I hope he’s durable enough to carry us throught the season!

By RxDawg

October 16, 2007 6:01 PM | Link to this

Of course that doesnt make him the 2nd best UGA back of all time….but it does put him on that path =D

By ugagal

October 16, 2007 6:01 PM | Link to this

Anyone who’s seen this young man run had to have known that we’d be having this discussion sooner or later. I just thought it would be later and not sooner, as T.B. was a having a really good year until his injury. But now that we’re here, I’d have to say that barring injury, Moreno has the potential to be a solid #2 behind Herschel. I say that for one reason, and one reason only…strength. Herschel Walker was the strongest and swiftest runner I ever saw. I first saw him at the state high school track meet in Jefferson the spring before he we both started at UGA. Long before the state meet, whispers about his speed had filtered up from South Georgia, so every time he was in a heat, there was a crowd. And let me tell you, he did not disappoint. He outran guys half his size and did it without breaking a sweat. So you think he’s going to outrun guys on the football field, right? Wrong. Fast forward to the my freshman year at UGA and the famous Tennessee game. He uses his strength to run over people and then hits the open field in full stride. Never seen anything like it before or since.

Knowshon definitely has the moves, makes guys miss all over the place and hits the hole really fast. But he doesn’t have the strength that Herschel had yet. He’ll have to do some work in the weight room, learn how to run North-South a little more and break some tackles before he moves into first postition.

By Chuck Carswell

October 16, 2007 6:01 PM | Link to this

Jim Donnan said Jasper Sanks was the next Herschel Walker. Let’s wait and see on this one. Besides, I hate setting the expectation for an 18 year old that he has to live up to a legend.

By njdawg

October 16, 2007 6:02 PM | Link to this

I would rank:

1. Herschel
2. Hearst
3. Hampton
4. Woorley

After this it gets a little dicey, and you could mix and mach 2-4 in pretty much any order.

As for Knowshon, it is way to early to rate him with these guys. Give him a couple years and keep in mind that Caleb is coming next year. How will that effect the situation?

By ConyersDawg

October 16, 2007 6:02 PM | Link to this

Just watching him, he looks like he will definitely be one of the best.

I would go as far as saying top 3 at this pace. He has power, speed, and the moves.

My favorite backs: Herschel Walker, Rodney Hampton, Time Worley, and Garrison Hearst.

It could end up Herschel, Garrison, and then Moreno.

Moreno passes the special inspection so far. He can be real special if he leads us to a win against Fl.

By Big Dawg

October 16, 2007 6:04 PM | Link to this

While I believe that by the time Moreno leaves GA he will be one of our greatest RB’s the jury is still out on him. Still too early to tell as injuries have a way of derailing promising careers at times.

Go Dawgs

By jack

October 16, 2007 6:05 PM | Link to this

BTW… Jim Rome just ripped the Bulldogs on his ESPN television show “Rome is Burning.” He ripped them for celebrating on the Vandy logo, which I don’t think was their intention. He also said, Oh how the mighty have fallen. He ripped us.

Get a Rope!

Boy seeing that list of UGA running backs makes me happy!

I think Moreno has as much talent as any of the great Bulldog tailbacks but it’s way to early to put him in my “modern era” top 5.

1. Herschel
2. Hampton
3. Hearst aka Doobie
4. McClendon
5. Robert Edwards (For one year)
6. Henderson

And Yes we should keep giving Moreno the ball. Don’t save him. If his average per carry stays around 5 yards a carry then we must give him the rock at least 25 times a year. We would still have balance with that number.

Hopefully we are still singing Moreno praises a couple of years from now on our way to the BCS championship game.

Go Dawgs

Somehow, someway beat those dirty Gators.

By Lowcountry Bulldawg

October 16, 2007 6:08 PM | Link to this

How about overrated:

1)Jasper Sanks

2)Odell Collins

3)Sterling Boyd

4)Cleveland Gary

5)Torin Kirtsey/Albert Hollis

Sorry Chip thoguht this was funnier!

Herschel, Hearst, Sinkwich, Hampton then Lars Tate!

By RedAndBlack

October 16, 2007 6:17 PM | Link to this

I think he deserves to be behind Herschel not just because of his talent but the way he makes the line look good. Think about it, the o-line is mostly freshman which hasn’t grown to it’s full potential yet Moreno has racked up over 600 yards. Imagine if the o-line were all seniors that could block. Moreno has gained these yards mostly due to his talent. Think about it…

By avery

October 16, 2007 6:29 PM | Link to this

why is nobody mentioning terrell davis

By The Second Best Georgia Back was Terrell Davis

October 16, 2007 6:30 PM | Link to this

Terrell Davis was the second best running back to ever play at Gerogia, behins Hershel Walker. If Ray Goof didn’t HATE him, Terrell Davis would have ended his career at Gerogia with incredible stats. Playing for the Denver Broncos, through his first four seasons, Davis rushed for 6,413 yards (4.8 yards per carry) and 56 touchdowns. Among the 24 modern-era Hall of Fame halfbacks and fullbacks, only Earl Campbell (6,457, 4.6 yards per carry) and Eric Dickerson (6,968, 4.8 yards per carry) had more rushing yards during their first four seasons; no member of the Hall of Fame matched Davis’ first-four-season 56 rushing touchdowns.

By Big Rob

October 16, 2007 6:30 PM | Link to this

I think Moreno’s attitude on the field is equally as valuable as his running ability. I heard CMR comparing his drive and his energy level to that of David Pollack. He went on to say that Pollack was a catalyst for the team when he was there and Moreno is becoming that now. I know its too early to call a freshman a ‘leader,’ but I like his potential.

By kcdc

October 16, 2007 6:32 PM | Link to this

YA’LL REMEMBER- MORENO IS RUNNING BEHIND A VERY INEXPERIENCED LINE, AND HAS ALL THOSE YARDS- HOW COOL IS THAT!!?? IF HEALTHY, HE WILL BE THE 2ND BEST EVER..

By anotherdawg

October 16, 2007 6:45 PM | Link to this

Knowshon is definitely special, but there will never be a running back like Hershel. They say you can’t win being a one dimensional team, but we won it all with the best college running back of all times! If he had played his last year, he would have set a record that would have NEVER been broken.

By fire him

October 16, 2007 6:47 PM | Link to this

Fire Willie Martinez. Moreno, Stafford and Co., can’t get on the field to win the game. It is called a prevent defense. It prevents our offence from getting on the field.

By RxDawg

October 16, 2007 6:53 PM | Link to this

Big Rob, its probably not to early to call that freshman a leader. Richt did it himself when he make Moreno a captain for the Vandy game. It was the first time a freshman has been a captain since 1950 or something. In fact, his attitude and leadership is his highest quality in my opinion.

By John

October 16, 2007 6:53 PM | Link to this

The Georgia coaching staff will ruin every bit of energy and talent out of Moreno next year until he is in their doghouse. For some reason players are best in their freshman year at Georgia before they are “coached up” by the expert coaching staff, I guess Moreno’s ignorance is bliss.

By MC

October 16, 2007 6:59 PM | Link to this

I think he will be one of the best. He seems to have something that I have not noticed in a while on the Georgia team. He has a hop in his walk. He does not mind hitting somebody. Maybe other Dawgs players should start trying to pull themselves up to playing with that energy he has out there———Go Dawgs! Never Quit.

By La Jolla Dawg

October 16, 2007 6:59 PM | Link to this

Several on your list Chip were at UGA when I was, which is kind of cool, especially since I arrived four years after the 1980 NC team. One of my favorite running backs is not on the list: Musa Smith, he ran for 1,324 yards and 8 touchdowns on 261 carries (5.1 yards per carry) his junior year. Musa was fun to watch, especially against Arkansas in the SEC Championship game.

By Big Man

October 16, 2007 7:01 PM | Link to this

Hooperdawg you are correct about Stafford not going thru all of his reads. He had Tripp Chandler wide open on a few plays in the South Carolina game when he forced passes into coverage. He is talented, but still has a ways to go to live up to his promise.

By A-ville Ranger

October 16, 2007 7:06 PM | Link to this

Moreno has everything he needs to be great except raw speed.The last back to perform great at UGA was Hearst(Davis was a great pro).I watched a replay of the 91 UGA Ga Tech game the other day, it was the one where Garrison ran for 175.Hearst was without a doubt faster,nobody caught him from behind.Knowshown has so many great qualities like Balance,cutting ability,strength,vision and most of all huge determination.If he stays healthy I think he’ll be second to Walker in Dawg lore when he’s finished.

By AltamahaDawg

October 16, 2007 7:10 PM | Link to this

Conyers, did you mean Time Warner?

Lowcountry, pretty good list there there but Hollis?? Come on, that kid was never healthy a day. He gets a pass on over-rated.

By GADAWG47

October 16, 2007 7:10 PM | Link to this

If Moreno had an OL in front of him to open running lanes he would have double the rushing yards he has now. This kid is VERY talented. He has great hand-feet eye cordination. He can make a saftey or cornerback miss a tackle with ease. He also has the ability to catch the ball as well as run it. If Moreno and Stafford had a good OL in front of them, the Bulldog’s O would be hard to stop.

By Danimal

October 16, 2007 7:15 PM | Link to this

Most of the backs you listed had another great back to share time with. Therefore, no 1000 yard years. Ga. has not been a running stat team in years, but a quality running back knows where to go to get into the NFL.

By NATE

October 16, 2007 7:17 PM | Link to this

who gives a damn???? the pups are an AVERAGE AT BEST team who are going to lose at least 3 games a year for his entire career so what difference does it make????

By BadgerDawg

October 16, 2007 7:22 PM | Link to this

Lowcountry, there is nothing funny about putting Albert Hollis on an overrated list. You can’t fault a guy who had multiple awful knee surgeries and still worked like crazy in an attempt to get on the field just one time. In my opinion, he is one of the all time greats for his dedication and determination.

No disagrement with the others, except I don’t remember Kirtsey being that highly regarded to begin with. Actually, and I hate to say it, but you’d have to consider Lumpkin for a spot. He was the #2 back in the country according to recruiting sites after Summers from South Carolina and he’s probably the 3rd best back(maybe 4th of King s for real) on the team as a senior.

By Ringleader

October 16, 2007 7:24 PM | Link to this

He may be among them, its just that he is not one of them…….He has a long way to go. I know of no team that has any fear of him at all…. Those other guys put fear in the secondary because they all could take it to the bank…..

By Stafford SUCKS

October 16, 2007 7:25 PM | Link to this

I THINK MARINO IS DOING REALLY WELL BUT WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS WHY STAFFORD WONT STEP UP AND BE A LEADER. STAFFORD IS WAY TO OVER RATED! HE IS NOT MAKING PLAYS A HIGH DRAFTED PLAYER SHOULD! GO DAWGS!

By BadgerDawg

October 16, 2007 7:26 PM | Link to this

Lowcountry, there is NOTHING funny about putting Hollis on an overrated list. The guy had multiple awful knee surgeries, and instead of giving up he worked like crazy in an attempt to get on the field just one time. In my opinion, he is an all time great for his dedication and determination.

As for the rest of the list, I don’t recall Kirtsey being that highly regarded to begin with, so I’m not sure he could be overrated. I hate to say it, but the last spot should go to Lumpkin. He was rated as the #2 back in the country as a senior in high school, and he’s the 3rd (maybe 4th if King is for real) RB on the team as a senior.

By Ringleader

October 16, 2007 7:28 PM | Link to this

He may be among them, its just that he is not one of them…….He has a long way to go. I know of no team that has any fear of him at all…. Those other guys put fear in the secondary because they all could take it to the bank….. and as fot the comments on Terrell, it had nothing to do with Goff having hate, Terrell was always limping around his senior year and we had this love affair with the passing game and Zier

By JH

October 16, 2007 7:31 PM | Link to this

Y’all are too young to remember “Gliding Glen” Harrison I guess, second only to Herschel in ability.

By the ritz blitz

October 16, 2007 7:36 PM | Link to this

…..as a Georgia season ticket holder for the last 28 years I think I can speak with little knowledge and maybe even with a little authority to say that Moreno is the best Georgia back since Garrison Hearst. He possess the speed of Garrison and the elusiveness of Rodney. But can he stay heatlhy? And yeah I can talk about Hershel, Puplwood, Tate or Worley… Chip what do you think? If I get a chance I’ll post my thoughts on the state of the SEC in 2007. I am to old to blog…

By uga4ever

October 16, 2007 7:41 PM | Link to this

Lets not jump the gun here. He is a special player, but comparing him to the greats already can come back to haunt us. Remember all the rave about Ware? This team has a long way to go, we are average to just above average. The OL is killing the offense and the QB isn’t going to get better with the lack of performance by the OL.

By uga4ever

October 16, 2007 7:41 PM | Link to this

Lets not jump the gun here. He is a special player, but comparing him to the greats already can come back to haunt us. Remember all the rave about Ware? This team has a long way to go, we are average to just above average. The OL is killing the offense and the QB isn’t going to get better with the lack of performance by the OL.

By AltamahaDawg

October 16, 2007 7:43 PM | Link to this

Is it just me or does anyone using “somebody sucks” or “fire somebody” as a moniker seems like the biggest chicken crap weasle around. I’d rather have “BigRivalFanGuy”. At least he ownes a pair. You know what, if you want to come in here and talk about all the reasons you think somebody isnt holding up thier end of the bargain, thats great. Some will certainly agree, some will not. But be a big enough man to actually come up with a nicname that says something other than “I’m such a pathetic loser, that my entire existance hinges on how bad somebody else sucks”.

By muttstink

October 16, 2007 7:47 PM | Link to this

Leave it to The Athens Journal and Constitution, to once again, OVER-HYPE and OVER-RATE someone or something coming out of muttville. The guy has started ONE freaking game. What did he do against UT? ‘Nuff said.

By the ritz blitz

October 16, 2007 7:48 PM | Link to this

maybe I should learn to spell it’s Pulpwood and healthy or type
s l o w er

By GHJ

October 16, 2007 7:50 PM | Link to this

In my opinion, the best three RB’s at UGA in the modern era are Walker, Hearst and Hampton. Moreno has a chance to go down as one of the best depending on his heatlh. The offensive line should continue to improve along with Moreno over the next few years. Moreno has the ability to create 3 yards WITHOUT any help from O-Line and has a “motor” similiar to Pollack. Too early to say that Moreno will pass Hearst or Hampton, but he has a legitimate chance.

By AltamahaDawg

October 16, 2007 7:52 PM | Link to this

He may be the next Garrison Hearst, but no way (as A-Ville points out) he has the speed. I’m not sure we have ever had anyone more exciting around the corner. I think the defensive plan was just to put somebody running at an angle prior to that snap and hope you guessed the correct side, cause you damn sure weren’t going to catch him.

By ak4771

October 16, 2007 7:53 PM | Link to this

Lets not jump the gun here. Last time someone was compared to #34 was Danny Ware. It was his freshman season, first game against Ga Southern. After that game, he was heralded as the “next Herschel” And we see how that turned out for him. Moreno is a special player but lets wait a couple of years before we start comparing him to Herschel. For Knowshon’s sake, lets not do that just yet. Could be a jinx!!

By fkfk

October 16, 2007 8:00 PM | Link to this

Lowcountry Bulldawg, I won’t disagree with your top 4 picks for overrated. However, Kirtsey was NOT highly recruited and Hollis never had a chance due to SERIOUS knee injury.

By jack

October 16, 2007 8:10 PM | Link to this

Nate smells

By Chip

October 16, 2007 8:15 PM | Link to this

I agree with Terrel Davis getting left out. Ray Gump was a complete a* to him. If memory serves correctly he was averaging just slightly less thas Hearst in yardage average (I mean look at that 1993 Citrus Bowl team), and he was the backup. Anyway, my top five are 1.Walker 2.Hearst 3. Hampton 4. Lars Tate 5.Smith

Most Over-Hyped - Jasper Sanks Special Shout Out - Hines Ward (does anyone forget he played WR, RB & QB?)

By Davisboro Dawg

October 16, 2007 8:16 PM | Link to this

I can only comment on those I’ve seen…Frank Sinkwich and Charlie Trippi are before my time…

So, my greatest UGA backs: 1. Herschel Walker 2. Rodney Hampton 3. Garrison Hearst 4. Tim Worley 5. Willie McClendon

Honorable mention: Robert Edwards (top 5 if healthy and all 4 years), Glynn Harrison, Jimmy Poulos, Kevin McLee, Keith Henderson, Musa Smith (gotta include him as he was a key part of breaking the 20-yr SEC drought)

Knowshon may be right there with the best of them if he stays healthy and stays productive. Just hope they let him do his thing and not over-coach him…natural instinct is generally better than a pre-defined “coached” running angle…

By Joe in SAV

October 16, 2007 8:22 PM | Link to this

Thanks for coming out Nate. “who gives a damn.” Well, not counting you who obviously doesn’t, the blog had 32 posts. You don’t care to talk about UGA football so in your self-centered jacka$$(I’m sorry but its true) world feel that nobody else should either. I also love how you can predict the future as well. Why don’t you call Barnhart and help him with his Friday forecast?
It is a bit early to compare Knowshon to Walker, Hearst, and Hampton but the excitement factor when he touches the ball is far greater than any other recent UGA back. I hope for the best (PLEASE STAY HEALTHY!!!) and Go Dawgs! By the way, who did Lumpkin share carries with in ‘03?

By bamadon

October 16, 2007 8:23 PM | Link to this

MORENO IS A GOING TO BE A GREAT BACK IF HE DOES GET HURT. WALKER AND HEARST ARE THE BEST BACKS THAT I REMEMBER WATCHING GEORGIA PLAY ON TV. BETWEEN UGA AND AUBURN THEY HAVE HAD THE BEST RUNNING BACKS IN THE SEC!! SHAUN ALEXANDER AT BAMA WAS A GREAT BACK ALSO!!

By War Eagle

October 16, 2007 8:28 PM | Link to this

Relax on stats, Moreno has played only 7 games in his career. He has potential, but their are several other backs in the SEC with same talent.He could be a great one… I have preach for several years on dawg blog about Lumpkin,#20 and recently Moreno. Give the capable RB the ball 20-25 times a game,this gives Stafford more position to be a better PCT QB. UGA problems is depth at all positions except QB and reason is not developing 4 and 5 star recruits or not recognizing talent as LSU, Texas, USC and Florida. harsh? its fact…. also, in the past I have stated CMR, being a winning coach, can`t win the Big Games…He deserves credit, but a NC is a long way for UGA. I personally think David Greene is the athlete who had a big impact on on CMR record. How many top 10 teams or top 5 teams has CMR won since 2001? CTT did put Auburn in a position to win NC 2004, with a 13-0 record, but Auburn was # 2 in the final polls.I am not comparing, just blogging. Beat Gators

By Dorsey Hill

October 16, 2007 8:29 PM | Link to this

1) Robert Edwards (for 4 qts in 1995; 2nd half vs. USC and 1st half vs. UT: 7 touchdowns and 10+ yards per touch.) 2) Herschel Walker 3) Charley Trippi 4) Frank Sinckwich 5) tie, Rodney Hampton, Garrison Hearst

By ramble 'ON

October 16, 2007 8:44 PM | Link to this

My boy Tashard is better than anything out of Athens. Just wait until Nov and we’ll see which back has the most yards. I guarantee the winner will have on a yellow jersey. ;) GT 45 UGA 3

By Mike

October 16, 2007 8:45 PM | Link to this

Robert Edwards was a CB his Fr. year. Terrel Davis was at Long Beach his Freshman year.

1. Walker - no other will touch the ball that much again

2. Worley - lot of bad things going on in Athens back then, hurt the potential of many great prospects (K. Henderson)

3. Hearst - like Moreno, didn’t get to touch it much until it was too late

4. Pulpwood Smith - what could have been

5. Hampton - awesome

Moreno has a great chance to move into that number 2 position. Especially if he comes up big in some meaningful games. LIKE FLORIDA!

By Mike

October 16, 2007 8:45 PM | Link to this

Robert Edwards was a CB his Fr. year. Terrel Davis was at Long Beach his Freshman year.

1. Walker - no other will touch the ball that much again

2. Worley - lot of bad things going on in Athens back then, hurt the potential of many great prospects (K. Henderson)

3. Hearst - like Moreno, didn’t get to touch it much until it was too late

4. Pulpwood Smith - what could have been

5. Hampton - awesome

Moreno has a great chance to move into that number 2 position. Especially if he comes up big in some meaningful games. LIKE FLORIDA!

By A-ville Ranger

October 16, 2007 8:56 PM | Link to this

ritz blitz I agree with most of what you posted.I watched Hearst yesterday on a replay of the 91 Tech game and he was faster than Knowshown,I’m sure of that.I think Moreno can be as good and maybe better though if he stays healthy and gets the blocking.If he had blazing speed he’d have it all.

By EmmettDawg

October 16, 2007 8:57 PM | Link to this

I was as excited to see Moreno commit as a prep star as I was when I first read about a 5-star recruit named Lumpkin. Depending on the recruiting service, both of which were #1 in the country. The thing is we will never know what Lumking or Brown or Ware could have been a feature backs. The is certainly some wisdom in the Richt rotation, but I think it also comes with some downsides. We’ve rarely given a back a chance to “take-over” a game. The true test of a back is how can they do down the stretch—both in a season and in a game. Knowshon looked like a great finisher.

Let’s do some simple math. Knowshon has 617 through seven games, but we got a glimpse of what his yardage might look like as a feature back the rest of the season.

If he averages just 125 over the next 5 games (I know, more games than they used to play) he’ll end up with over 1200! That’s more than just breaking a thousand, and that’s with him not getting that many touches the first part of the season. When you think about it, he could be on track to break his record (with a greater toll on Knowshon’s smaller frame, no doubt). And yes this is behind an overly youth line. ITS GREAT TO BE A GEORGIA BULLDOG!

By boots

October 16, 2007 9:00 PM | Link to this

A few thoughts… Herschel was amazing because he was a true freshman. Wow. There will not be an impact player with the character he had in my lifetime. Kno-Mo is a really good back, and his energy and example are part of what is making him so special. He is also handling the screens and receiving very well, and the O-line is so young. I just hope he stays healthy. Having Brown in there hurts his stats, but it is best for his game at this stage.

One other though in seeing Chip’s list - noting that Ward was a running back that made the top 10. That is crazy! The guy was a running back, a QB for most of a year and then is the Super Bowl MVP as a receiver and one of the best in the NFL. What an athlete!

By JRH

October 16, 2007 9:03 PM | Link to this

There will never another Walker,but go way back in UGA football history and you will find the names of 2 backs, both on the smsme team in the early 40’s. They played played both ways. Frankie Sinkwich, Charlie Trippi.They along with Walker, would be my top 3 of all time.

By monty

October 16, 2007 9:04 PM | Link to this

I love his desire. I hope he can stay healthy abd have a great career. Sort of like a slower version of Cadillac Williams. Never be another Herschel with the combination of size and speed.

By Knowshon Moreno

October 16, 2007 9:18 PM | Link to this

Yo, I am Knowshon, thanks for all your compliments. I will become da beast freshmen rb since herschell! beat it, hate it, I am the best beside god himself(herschel) let’s hav another dawg pile this time in atlanta.

Go dawgs, and howdy to all my folks in NJ.

By I’m such a pathetic loser, that my entire existance hinges on how bad somebody else sucks

October 16, 2007 9:21 PM | Link to this

Fire the whole coaching staff! Make Mark Richt UGA chaplain.

By bigguy

October 16, 2007 9:30 PM | Link to this

He looks great, especially behind a line that can’t block and a “all or nothin” passing game. Give him time to proove his durability. Give him a line that blocks. Give him a qb that can read and disect defenses…. Maybe he won’t be like Fred Gibson.

As for the stomping on the Vandy star after the win….there’s an old saying….act like you’ve been there (won) before - especially against Vandy.

I feel sorry for a coach that has to stop that trash.

By Bowman

October 16, 2007 9:36 PM | Link to this

He’s good but WAY overhyped.. seems that everytime a new running back goes to uga and has a couple of good games, he’s compared to The Legend…like most, i agree that it’s way too early to tell.. plus, all his spinning around won’t work in the nfl..

you columnists should wait until the running backs are juniors/seniors and then start comparing their careers to The Great One.. way too premature for this type of discussion

By RxDawg

October 16, 2007 9:45 PM | Link to this

Honorable mention: Veron Haynes

By Bleeding Red & Black

October 16, 2007 9:53 PM | Link to this

To Tech( unworthy of being called Georgia) fan Tashard is a senior so that’s an unfair comparison and he is playing behind a more experienced line so I love Knowshon not only for his play on the field,but I admire the way he carries himself. From what I have seen he is a very humble guy, and plays to win every down.He never slacks or takes a play off. He always keeps his feet moving. Oh yeah Joe in Sav he shared the ball with Michael Cooper

By Bleeding Red & Black

October 16, 2007 9:54 PM | Link to this

To Tech( unworthy of being called Georgia) fan Tashard is a senior so that’s an unfair comparison and he is playing behind a more experienced line so I love Knowshon not only for his play on the field,but I admire the way he carries himself. From what I have seen he is a very humble guy, and plays to win every down.He never slacks or takes a play off. He always keeps his feet moving. Oh yeah Joe in Sav he shared the ball with Michael Cooper

By bigdawg88

October 16, 2007 9:55 PM | Link to this

I can’t believe you guys have Lars Tate on a top 5 list! He should go down as the biggest bust! I remember almost every time he got the ball he would just fall down without anyone touching him. Boy had a bad case of nerves! Rodney Hampton is just behind Herschel. That man could get yardage when nobody else (incl Worley, Henderson, and Tate) could. I knew he was going to make it in the pros. Worley, Henderson, and Tate were just big, fast guys, who just weren’t big and fast enough to get it done. Terrell Davis is probably third, but should have been #2 if Goof had used him. Not having seen Trippi and Sinkwich I can’t really say where to put them.
If Pulpwood Smith had wanted to do more than get cars and cash from the coaches he may have been #2. I’ll put him on the bust list since he only lasted a season. I really can’t put Knowshon anywhere yet until he’s played a full season. Otherwise, Terrence Edwards would be my #2. Darn shame he was so fragile.

By Lowcountry Bulldawg

October 16, 2007 9:56 PM | Link to this

Points taken about Hollis and I agree. The reason he would be on it maybe not in the overrated,but not lived up to potential is the fact that he was higher regarded than Musa. Not making light of the knees injury’s just the fact that he never lived up to the billing. Was not making light of his injury.

Kirtsey was a reach you just get to the point where UGA has nailed the RB position over the years so 5 busts at the posisiton is rare.

TD is not on the list because once George Allen died at LBSU TD got the free pass to transfer w/o penalty. So now one had any idea who or what he was capable of doing.

Thanks for keeping me straight guys!

By AthensDawg

October 16, 2007 10:18 PM | Link to this

Lowcountry you should lose your bloggin pass for a week for saying Albert Hollis is overrated! That kid kept tearing his knee up, he can’t help that, you should be ashamed of yourself.

By AltamahaDawg

October 16, 2007 10:20 PM | Link to this

Terrance Edwards was a receiver, and for the love of all red and black, the man’s name was Ray GOFF. I don’t seem to remember a single person claiming the oft injured out of town boy Terrell Davis wasn’t being used enough back then. Specially with EZ puttign up 350+. Then some year later he does well in the pros, and everyones a retroactive talent scout, right?

By AltamahaDawg

October 16, 2007 10:23 PM | Link to this

ROBERT Edwards was a converted defensive back and not half the RB that Hearst was.

By AthensDawg

October 16, 2007 10:25 PM | Link to this

Good to see that you came to your senses Lowcountry. Btw, id have to say Hearst was a clear #2 behind Herschel then Hampton at #3. Hampton also had a great career with the NY Giants. I just think Hearst had that big play ability and speed. Just for conversation remember when Hearst finished #3 in the Heisman behind M Faulk and Gino Toretta. Toretta winning that Heisman was a travesty!

By AthensDawg

October 16, 2007 10:27 PM | Link to this

Btw, when did PUlpwood play? I heard my brother mention him before and talk about his awesome potential. Can anyone tell me about this guy, i don’t really know anything about him I was real young then i guess.

By chaplain

October 16, 2007 10:28 PM | Link to this

my opinion on ga’s football team is this: replace stafford…get him the heck outa there…let him transfer…put the red headed dude in there..at least we’ll have a fire crotch to ignite the offense a heckuva lot more than stafford doesnt.

By Zeke McCluskey

October 16, 2007 11:11 PM | Link to this

Does anyone have any info on this “Pulpwood” Smith?…..I seem to remember that he came from South GA

By spencer

October 16, 2007 11:36 PM | Link to this

I can’t believe no one is talking about how few fumbles there have been this deep into the season. That is a trait of a true running back

By Krak

October 16, 2007 11:42 PM | Link to this

Chip…Please!!!!!

By Krak

October 16, 2007 11:57 PM | Link to this

Please again….If you do not get it.

Who did the ‘07 team have trouble with?? Think about it.

I am sorry dog fans. I can not support the idea from Chip that a back with one career start can be compared to these other guys. Chip, come on. Give me something to think about.

By Mike

October 17, 2007 12:21 AM | Link to this

A lot of what I was going to say has already been said. So I will just point out that Robert Edwards was not a converted DB as someone said above me. Robert was a tailback that was playing out of position at corner under Goff. When he was moved back to tailback, his natural position, everyone saw what he could do. Thing is, everyone who saw him in high school knew exactly what he was capable of. Just somehow our coaches at the time missed the memo. I don’t think I’ve ever felt as bad at a football game as I did when he went down in Knoxville. It was quite a while before we got over on them again, and that had been our best shot in a while.

By Jay

October 17, 2007 12:22 AM | Link to this

Lumpkin split carries with Tyson Browning, Michael Cooper, and Tony Milton.

By Jo-Jo the boy faced Dawg

October 17, 2007 12:29 AM | Link to this

I think Moreno is one of the three or four best backs to play at UGA.We’ve got Caleb stepping in next year and Richard Samuel looks like the real deal as well.Knowshown could be the best back we’ve ever had who won’t have the featured position all to himself but he’ll have plenty of opportunities to excel.

By Replay

October 17, 2007 12:46 AM | Link to this

AltamahaDawg,

Ray “Goof” is a play on words. You know, Ray Goff, Ray Goof - A STUPID PERSON. Either you’re being a smarta$$ or you’re one too.

By TybeeDawg

October 17, 2007 1:00 AM | Link to this

I believe Robert Edwards was a running back in High School as well as DB.

By jerry

October 17, 2007 6:47 AM | Link to this

* PUT THE RED AND BLACK CHECKERBOARD IN THE SANFORD STADIUM ENDZONES!*

By AltamahaDawg

October 17, 2007 7:35 AM | Link to this

really replay, cause I would have never figured that out. Its not a “play” it’s an insult (which was how it was intended) and a show of disrespect for a former player and coach of my alma mater, who #1. is far from stpid, and #2, deserves more respect than that despite not having a winning percentage to your liking.

By trojan 93

October 17, 2007 7:37 AM | Link to this

INFORMATION ON ANDRE ‘PULPWOOD’ SMITH. Graduated from Coffee High in Douglas. I remember seeing him when I was like 6 or 7. All I can say is that everytime it seemed like he touched the ball he was running long touchdowns. He would only have about 7-10 touches and would have over 200 all purpose yards. Get this he wasn’t the feature back of the team. That honor went to Big George Smith. Pulpwood was doing the same things at UGA that he did in high school and that was run the ball to the endzone. He from my understanding has had a few legal problems but is seemingly doing well and I believe he has a son playing or recently played at Lovejoy. The guy is a Coffee County legend and anyone that knows high school football for over the past 30 years should automatically know he was a high school legend. It is a shame that he did not live up to his full potential but as a football player he to this day is the top 3-5 players that I personally have ever seen…..UNBELIEVABLE TALENT!!

By Lowcountry Bulldawg

October 17, 2007 7:38 AM | Link to this

http://www.sicemdawgs.com/football/signees/fbsig_93.php

Follow that link and it will show that Robert was originally a DB from Tenille GA.

By TigerJacket

October 17, 2007 7:44 AM | Link to this

I can’t believe I’m wasting my time on a uga blog. I hate you doggies ten times as much as y’all hate the Gators or Vols. Thomas Brown is not getting enough respect on this blog. TB is one of the best backs uga has ever had. If he got all of the carries he would be Heisman material.

By trojan 93

October 17, 2007 7:46 AM | Link to this

Now off of Pulpwood and on to Moreno. Let’s not get carried away, we have had some of the best backs to come out of any one university. Moreno reminds me a lot of Cadillac Williams.I love his fire and determination, but to be considered one of the best needs to be put on hold. He is running behind a line that is not really run blocking that well to his credit.UGA has just had to many proven backs to say he is in this conversation of “BEST”. Maybe one of the most “EXCITING” players to come along in some time. In a sense he is our Reggie Bush or Percy Harvin…

By Diamond Dave

October 17, 2007 7:57 AM | Link to this

FYI for the blogger who thinks Cleveland Gary was overrated: He transfered to Miami and was the first round pick of the Rams in 1988. He played several years in the NFL. Doesn’t sound too overrated to me.

By Bobby A

October 17, 2007 8:14 AM | Link to this

best ever? lick my sack UGA Fans. Mike Hart rushed for over 1,400 yards up in Michigan his frosh season. And, not even he was questioned as the best ever. Retards.

Go Blue

By Bobby A

October 17, 2007 8:14 AM | Link to this

best ever? lick my sack UGA Fans. Mike Hart rushed for over 1,400 yards up in Michigan his frosh season. And, not even he was questioned as the best ever. Retards.

Go Blue

By Lowcountry Bulldawg

October 17, 2007 8:24 AM | Link to this

Gary:

Wasn’t good enough enough to hack it at this “U”.

Hey Bobby….

APP STATE….GO LICK THAT SACK! IF YOU CAN CATCH IT!

By JamesD

October 17, 2007 8:34 AM | Link to this

Lowcountry Bulldawg

I don’t think it’s fair to say Albert Hollis was overrated. He sustained a career ending injury. Hard to perform with no ankles.

By Dawg4life

October 17, 2007 8:36 AM | Link to this

Anybody who has watched Knowshon even a little this year knows he’s special. Running behind an average OL (at this point), and vs. the SEC he’s been very good.

My top 10: 1. Herschel 2. Sinkwich 3. Garrison Hearst 4. Charley Trippi 5. Rodney Hampton 6. Robert Edwards 7. Willie McLendon 8. Tim Worley 9. Musa Smith 10. Theron Sapp

When you look at impact, you can’t argue against Sinkwich (Heisman winner) and Trippi (the “best football player” my grandfather ever saw). McLendon was great in the late 70’s and maybe should be higher. Worley had as much talent as anyone except Herschel. Theron Sapp has to be there because he was the “Drought-Breaker.”

I think Knowshon could wind up in the Top 5.

By Lowcountry Bulldawg

October 17, 2007 8:39 AM | Link to this

James,

Note above the correction/Explanantion to the list. Thanks!

By NRBQ

October 17, 2007 8:42 AM | Link to this

It says a lot that CMR stated this week he should have used Moreno last year.

About now, he’s probably thinking the same thing about King.

By Zeb McKluskey

October 17, 2007 8:45 AM | Link to this

Hey Bobby @$$hole, does big blue have a website, or did App State take that away too? I wouldn’t be talkin smack to anyone you idiot yankee. Get the he11 off our blogs. Don’t make me send Dusty and Lusty McKluskey after you.

By Dawg Fud

October 17, 2007 8:47 AM | Link to this

Jim Rome ripped us on his show “Rome is Burning.” Who cares about Jim Rome. More like “Rome is Flaming.”

Bobby A - I assure you no one cares to lick your sack and certainly no one cares about the Big 10. Your conference is trash (like you) and I think Florida proved that beyond a reasonable doubt last year.

My heart goes out to Lumpkin. I know this is a very difficult and frustrating time for him. He has been a good DAWG!

By Petey

October 17, 2007 8:51 AM | Link to this

Chip, wow, best ever after 7 games?

He looks promising but I think this blog might be a bit premature.

Div 1-AA, 98th, 90th, 66th, 55th, 40th, 35th

That’s the rushing defenses he’s faced so far. Let’s reserve judgement until he’s run through UF, AU, and GT

By braveswin

October 17, 2007 8:57 AM | Link to this

Wow, no mention of Willie McClendon as one of the best backs at Ga?How quickly we forget.McClendon and Kevin McLee were the precursors to the “tailback U” years of Hershell Hampton Hearst ect…

By So Ga Dawg

October 17, 2007 9:00 AM | Link to this

I believe Knowshon has talent and could be one of the best…but don’t judge too quickly!! Remeber what everybody said about Jasper Sanks!!

By gdawginkalamazoo

October 17, 2007 9:04 AM | Link to this

Bobby A,

When you beat APP STATE then come talk your smack! LMAO!

By D Ellis

October 17, 2007 9:07 AM | Link to this

ummmm way to freakin early to be ranking him as an alltime great…alltime great freshamn…yeah you could say that…but not overall.

TB should be ranked ahead of Moreno at this point by far. Without injuries he would be top 3 all time in Yards. I wonder what his TOTAL YARDAGE IS TO DATE…GOTTA BE GREAT.

By Paul Hamilton

October 17, 2007 9:20 AM | Link to this

H.W., Trippi, Sinkwich, Hearst, and Hampton. I’ll wait until Knowshon has another year under his belt, although I do believe he is the real deal.

By Nate

October 17, 2007 9:24 AM | Link to this

Dawg Fud How could/can you not rip the IDIOTIC dawgs and the dawg nation. The thugs you morons call players pranced around like a bunch of classless morons after beating VANDY who was 3-2 with wins over Richmond, Ole miss, and Eastern Mich. It would be bad enough to act the way those fools did even if winning a national championship but to celebrate a win over VANDY????????? There is only one person who has any sort of class in the UGA program and that is Coach Richt. Granted the program is awful and has not won a game in its OWN division in 13 months but that still does not give your thugs the right to act the way they did. Jim Rome was exactly right in what he said. It goes much deeper than just than one incident as well. As I said UGA and class are rarely heard in the same sentence. Until the pups and the program as a whole make some changes these opinions are going to remain.

By trademe

October 17, 2007 9:30 AM | Link to this

Moreno has true talent! If he stays healthy he will be a first round NFL draft pick, no doubt. As a Dawg fan, I just hope he does not opt to leave early!! He will definitly be top five, all time provided the injury bug does not affect him.

By DWG

October 17, 2007 9:31 AM | Link to this

Caleb King is the 4th greatest back…

C’mon Chip. It’s waaaaay to early to be talking about this.

Now best backs of all time:

Walker, Hearst, Hampton, Sinkwich, Trippi, Millican!

By bill

October 17, 2007 9:32 AM | Link to this

In my lifetime, the best I saw play:

1. Herschel
2. Hearst
3. Edwards (for the limited time healthy)
4. Hampton
5. Worley (too bad about drugs later)

Terrell may deserve to be in the list for talent, but the guy just did not get a shot. (#*(& Ray Goof)

And sorry, regardless of yards I cannot put Lars Tate on the list. He looked the part, but I swear I never saw anybody fall down without getting hit more than that guy. He’d fall down through a gaping hole in the line for 5 yards per play.

Sentimentally I’d like to put Willie McClendon on the list, but he’s not as good as the others.

By Stop the madness

October 17, 2007 9:36 AM | Link to this

Why don’t we leave the kids alone and let them actually produce consistantly for a couple of years before we start putting a ridiculous amount of pressure on them. First it was Stafford who is “the most talented QB Richt as ever coached” and now we are trying to do it Moreno. Based ont he limited action yes he has great promise and maybe he will be one of the best. Why do we need to add pressure to these kids right out of the gate. Whether it is the pressure or something else it surely has not help Stafford who has been very average so far. After they put up GREAT numbers for more than a year I think it is fair to start making comparisons to the best but for now give it a rest and let’s just find a way to win a few games!

By JCubby

October 17, 2007 9:47 AM | Link to this

I don’t care if Knowshon becomes one of the greatest or just another average back. His enthusiasm puts him in my top five. On a team that often looks like it’s sleepwalking, he is a shot of pure adrenalin. Go-Kno-Mo! (I expect to see this on a t-shirt soon but I won’t get credit)

By DWG

October 17, 2007 9:53 AM | Link to this

One comment about Terrell Davis. Great talent and under utilized but the system at UGA was built around Zier wingin the ball around 40+ times a game. I’d make an argument though that TD was a really good back in an incredible offense at Denver. After he went down with a knee injury, Olandis Gary and Mike Anderson piled up yards behind that O-Line too.

By Brent

October 17, 2007 10:00 AM | Link to this

To Early to tell about Moreno, but one thing is certian he will be the best we have had since Hearst. The O-Line needs to mature some more before we can say Moreno is going to be truely great. Yet, I do see Heismen potential in him just like Stafford. Bobo has just go to start calling play like they did when went on that tear that started with Auburn last year.

By jbirdawg

October 17, 2007 10:03 AM | Link to this

I take exception with your inclusion of Albert Hollis in the most overrated. He never got his chance to show what he could do, as he tore his ankle up in spring practice, injuring nerves that would never let him cut naturally again. He did get himself back to where he could run fast, straight, but was never healthy enough for Richt to take a chance on him getting injured again. Really not fair or considerate on your part to include him.

By Robbie

October 17, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this

I just hope that he continues to progress and get better each year. Remember all of the hype placed on Danny Ware when he was a freshman…Nuff said.

By ARdawg

October 17, 2007 10:13 AM | Link to this

Moreno has all the ability, talent and drive to post Hershelesque numbers and quite possibly be at the top of that list as the greatest rushing Dawg of all time. I hope to Hades he is and wish him the best. We need that kid.

By ryan

October 17, 2007 10:17 AM | Link to this

i would love to see moreno’s yards per carry without the runs over 15 yards. i bet its minisucle. he, and georgia backs in general, seem to have a ton of runs 2 yeards or less.

By 82DAWG

October 17, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this

1. Walker, 2. Sinkwich, 3. Trippi, 4. Hearst, 5. Hampton

Oh what the heck, here’s the next 5:

1. Worley, 7. Tate, 8. McClendon, 9. Musa Smith, 10. McClee or Brown.

By Wes

October 17, 2007 10:26 AM | Link to this

I heard about this 5 year old kid playing little league ball in Tucker. He’s already 5’ 4” and 105 lbs. He just committed to Georgia last week and he’s definitely gonna be a top 5 back for us.

Sorry, just making a point.

By Dawg Fud

October 17, 2007 10:36 AM | Link to this

Nate

Where do you get your information?

I am an active alumnus. When I go to Athens TD Club meetings, Mark Richt brings student-athletes that give testimonials about what it means to play for Georgia and the things they learn about being a productive member of society after football. One young man spoke about he grew up without a father but by being around CMR and his family, he has learned what it means to be a father, and looks forward to having a family of his own one day. The other young man spoke about CMR’s focus on his players learning about integrity and leadership and tools for life. I have been impressed with all of these young men.

The Vandy V incident has been blown out of proportion. Richt’s immediate reaction was instinct. It gave the perception of disrespect, which he does not condone. The celebration just sort of drifted that direction and I believe was unintentional. I am going to give our guys the benefit of the doubt on that one. I would call them out if I felt differently. Honest.

I believe the emotion of Coutu’s first ever game winning kick got the best of them and they were tied up in the moment. A win is a win in the SEC, especially against a team that beat us the previous year.

Jim Rome is a punk. He will attack anyone when he has the chance. I have no respect for him. He was like that on the radio and is even worse on television. Lazy journalism and trying to stir up controversy.

What suggestions do you recommend that Georgia make? You have cited opinions about problems, what are your solutions? Why do you call UGA football players thugs?

You praise Mark Richt for having class but then contradict yourself by saying that he awards scholarships to people and mentors those who are disrespectful, belligerent and unethical (ie, thugs). Your argument does not seem logical to me.

Regardless, this is a blog about rating tailbacks, which I agree is premature for Moreno.

By DWG

October 17, 2007 11:03 AM | Link to this

Anyone who listens to Jim Rome is an idiot.

By mcdawg

October 17, 2007 11:08 AM | Link to this

Relax-he has not completed a full season yet-i’ve said all year we were going to need lumpkin in the end b/c T. Brown takes way too many hits and not sure Moreno is going to prove very durable either with the way he takes and gives out hits—we still need a big back who can grind it out-would like to see some of these other guys get some carries and not wear out Moreno

By Wes

October 17, 2007 11:08 AM | Link to this

Dawg Fud,

I rarely, if ever, respond to comments made by analysts on tv, especially guys like Jim Rome, but felt compelled to do so after his “burn” last night. Below is my email response to him:

Mr. Rome,

In response to your burn about the University of Georgia’s celebration.

They weren’t celebrating a last second win over Vanderbilt by jumping on their logo. They were celebrating the fact that their Senior kicker, Brandon Coutu, one of the best kickers in the country, had just kicked the first “game winning” field goal of his career.

If you go back and watch footage, and Coutu made a quote to support this, he knew it was good as soon as he kicked it, so he threw his arms up, turned and started to celebrate his kick. The team turned and joined him and things naturally gravitated towards midfield, where the logo happens to be.

So no, that’s not the Georgia Bulldogs celebrating a last second win over Vanderbilt by stomping all over their logo. That’s the Georgia Bulldogs sharing the celebration of their kickers first last second field goal.

And actually, “what so called big time programs do” is hire coaches with enough character to prevent their players from even letting it appear that they would jump on ANYONE’S logo after a win, unlike the coaches at Vanderbilt who blatantly let their players jump all over our logo after their win last year.

By ARdawg

October 17, 2007 11:10 AM | Link to this

Rome IS a punk and worthless self-promoting penis cranium. I personally wouldn’t waste my time listening to him. The few markets he is actually in is normally a weak mid afternoon time slot. He makes such statements for the sole purpose of people and fans talking about him. If you want some good college atheletic news, check out Rivals on Sirius sat radio 95% unbiased and good stuff

By mcdawg

October 17, 2007 11:11 AM | Link to this

Jim Rome looks like a porn star from the 70s

By JMar

October 17, 2007 11:15 AM | Link to this

Chip, I love Moreno, but let’s think back to a few years ago: this paper, among others, declared Danny Ware the second-coming of Herschel Walker. Two years later, he was UGA’s third-string running back. So let’s have some patience.

By Dawg Fud

October 17, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this

WES

Thanks for sharing and well stated. The UGA football team was simply celebrating a win and a defining moment for one of their teammates. After the Alabama game I am sure people can relate to both Coutu’s and his teammates’ excitement.

GO DAWGS!

By will

October 17, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this

Moreno will rush for 1150 this year and in two years will be Georgia’s first serious heisman candidate since “The Hearst”.

By Dan

October 17, 2007 12:09 PM | Link to this

Could we give the kid a break? He has stared one game. The way things are going he may get hurt and then what? Let’s just focus on FL for now and how to beat them, not if Moreno is the best ever. Why do we want to put so much pressure on a Freshman? I don’t know. Sure he is exciting, but I would rather win the next 5 games and get ready for an SEC title run the next two years.

By Dorsey Hill

October 17, 2007 12:20 PM | Link to this

If Moreno averages 166 a game for the rest of the way, including the bowl game, he beats Herschel. Of course, Walker’s game vs. Notre Dame didn’t count back then, but Moreno’s bowl game would. (Herschel really had 1,767 in his freshman season.) Herschel also did it in an 11 game season whereas Moreno has 12. (Kinda gives you an idea of what kind of a player the greatest college football player of all-time was, don’t it? “My God! A freshman!!!”)

With respect to any Heisman talk, I don’t see a UGA back doing it under Richt unless the avg. per touch were just outstanding (9+ ypc). While we are kind of in a 1 back situation now, injuries aside, we are not going to give one back enough carries to do it. It just isn’t likely that a UGA back will put up Walker or Hearst type numbers. BTW: I think less carries is a good thing in this day and age. If you look at Herschel’s size relative to the linebackers he played against vs. Moreno’s and the guys he is getting hit by, you just know that 35 to 40 carries a game will get a guy killed. When we get a 6’3, 255lb. back that runs a 4.2 (the modern Herschel equilavent), then we can talk about 30 + carries a game.

The reality is that Stafford has a much better chance of getting into any serious Heisman discussion than Moreno. If Stafford has a big season next year and we beat some of those big teams on the schedule next year, which is a beast, he will be in the Heisman mix in ‘09.

By ARdawg

October 17, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this

Dan

Geeze, lighten up with a chill pill or something. Hope springs eternal and the dawg nation are hoping Moreno is the next best thing to the second coming. I don’t see anyone putting pressure on the young man. If bloggers can pressure him he’s got problems football can’t correct. It’s an off week, we’ll probably be discussing the dry grass situation at Stanford stadium before this week is over.

By crs

October 17, 2007 12:42 PM | Link to this

2008-2009 TOUGHEST SCHEDULE EVER?

From Sept 13th

AT South Carolina AT Arizona St. Alabama Two Weeks Tennessee Vandy AT LSU AT FL AT KTY AT AUB GT

Even though we will be significantly better in my opinion next year, that may the toughest schedule I have ever seen. We as UGA fans need to really support the team and realize 8-4 would be a SPECTACULAR effort next year.

By TybeeDawg

October 17, 2007 1:03 PM | Link to this

Robert Lee Edwards III was born the son of Robert Jr. and Jeannette Edwards on Oct. 2, 1974 in Tennille, Ga. … He is the oldest of four children … Played running back and defensive back at Washington County High in Tennille, Ga. and was voted the Georgia Class AA Defensive Player of the Year by the Atlanta Journal-Constitution … Earned all-state and all-county honors after gaining 1,661 all-purpose yards and 14 touchdowns as a running back, while recording 145 tackles, including eight sacks and eight interceptions as a defensive back during his senior year … He also blocked three punts, three PATs and three field-goal attempts during his final campaign, while leading the team to a 14-1 record and the Class AA State Championship game. … Majored in consumer economics at Georgia … Robert and his fiancée, Tracy, celebrated the birth of their first child during the 2000 offseason

By Bill W.

October 17, 2007 1:19 PM | Link to this

Here is my modern era top 10- wanted to go with 10 instead of 5 because I can.

1. Herschel
2. Hearst
3. Hampton
4. Worley
5. R. Edwards
6. Musa Smith
7. H. Ward
8. O. Gary
9. Terrell Davis
10. T. Brown
11. T. Kirtsey (forgot about him until he got the boot)

Knoshwon is good. Way to early to predict anything like being “elite”. Hell he could transfer next season or rush for 1616 yards.

Let’s get the kids up for the UF game. I believe the Dawgs can beat the Gators. It is a matter of execution.

GO DAWGS!!!

By charlotte dawg

October 17, 2007 2:14 PM | Link to this

1) Walker 2) Sinkwich 3) Hearst 4) Hampton 5) Tate

By never fair weather dawg

October 17, 2007 2:18 PM | Link to this

Just a quick thought about Moreno. Being run down by the Vandy player. I don’t think he was 100 percent healthy in that game. I remember commenting to my wife that he wasn’t running with the same speed as he did against Ole Miss; same unmatched desire but seemeingly 1/2 step slower due to possible pain/ injury? Just a thought. Go Dawgs.

By colascdawg

October 17, 2007 2:27 PM | Link to this

Hoopergdawg, that is a valid question…I noticed the same thing in the S Carolina game. Stafford would go long and ignore the intermediate reciever/t.e. who was open for a probable first down. I think it is necessary to throw deep in order to keep a defense on its heels, but at least in the S Carolina game it seemed like we were trying to make up the t.d. deficit on one play instead of marching down the field with multiple first down throws.

The thing that other teams do well against us and that I would like to see us do more of is taking what the defense gives and picking the defense apart. That would require some slants (possession guys like MoMass and Durham would be ideal) and intermediate routes to go with the slew of screens and the deep routes. The slants would be beneficial for our inexperienced offense line as well.

This is what Spurrier has done for years in order to combat a strong defensive attack. The qb takes a three step drop and throws a slant or a fade. There is almost no way to get to the qb in that time. The db’s are at a disadvantage because the wr simply steps in front of the db and crosses in front of the qb on the slant or on the fade the wr is the only one who has a play on the ball if it is executed properly.

I hate Spurrier, but I have seen his teams beat us and other teams for years using the same game plan of fades and slants while we and other teams act like we don’t know what hit us.

By DC

October 17, 2007 3:02 PM | Link to this

skimming through these make me wonder how many ever played the game…Moreno today has way more talent than anyone else we have. Yes, there will be only one Herschel, but Moreno comes close…He doesn’t have the break away speed but he does make the open spaces that herschel did not have to. Lok at HW in the pros…N/S runner. He just happended to bigger, stronger and faster than anyone else until the pros. I think KM will be the real deal and yes his line is not ready yet but look at what he has done so far. If and when the Off(including the coordinator) come together, then every one will be singing the praises of the line, the QB, the RB and etc… the question is will we all still be dog fans based on what I read here. this is not the best team we have had but it was not going to be….Too many inj and misses on talent…as Buck says 08 and 09…we will see

By The View

October 17, 2007 3:09 PM | Link to this

You gotta love this kids enthusiasm, but its way to early to annoint him the second coming of HW. He’s positng nice numbers against weak D lines that stayed on the field a long time like Vandy, Ole Miss, and W Carolina. But TENNESSEE held him to 2.3 yds (13 for 30). Let’s see how he performs against UF and Auburn.

By wejun

October 17, 2007 3:13 PM | Link to this

Let Knowshon run the ball.He is too good to be caught.

By AJC=JOKE

October 17, 2007 3:29 PM | Link to this

Georgia Tech is 4-3, has looked absolutely god awful in several games this year, and their beat writer says they can still finish with 10 wins (see past Saturday’s paper) and win the ACC Coastal.

Georgia is 5-2 (which is better than 4-3 I believe) and we get snide unnecessary comments from Mr. Towers about how a bowl game is far from certain, on a blog that has nothing to do with bowl games no less.

Gotta love the AJC. What a rag.

By War Eagle

October 17, 2007 3:39 PM | Link to this

Reading the Dawg Blogs, its hard for me to feel the opinions of Dawg fan…. if Stafford is living up to expectation or jury is out?

By Buck in the NW

October 17, 2007 3:53 PM | Link to this

Need some help. The papers out here don’t show when or which network the Ky./Reptile will be show on. Dos anyone know. Would appreciate some help.

By ARdawg

October 17, 2007 3:57 PM | Link to this

War Eagle

Stafford IMO is doing a very good job. He’s compensating for a young inexperienced OL and a receiving corps that struggling for mediocrity. I really don’t care what many of the bloggers are saying. It’s very diffucult for a young QB to develop under those circumstances. He’s making the passes. They’re not all on the numbers but many are and still dropped. Stafford’s mental mistakes from last year have been near non-existent. He is ahead of this team. He’s not calling the plays but he himself is executing. It’s a team sport and he can’t do it by himself

By ARdawg

October 17, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this

Buck That would be CBS at 3:30 est. Espn website is generally a good resource for that

By DWG

October 17, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this

Buck It’s the 3:30 CBS game.

By Cuz

October 17, 2007 4:13 PM | Link to this

don’t know Buck, could be CBS could be ESPN deuce.

By Cuz

October 17, 2007 4:15 PM | Link to this

Thanks guys for the info on the game, I could not find it on Fox Sports News.

By Babs Dooley

October 17, 2007 4:15 PM | Link to this

13 carries for 30 yards at Tennessee? I guess that makes Knowshon a Knowshow We better be able to pass against the Gaytors and Auburn or the running game will never open up.

By WhiteAndGold

October 17, 2007 4:18 PM | Link to this

Hmmm…Moreno best ever? Well, whatever makes ya’ll feel better about yourselves. Moreno couldn’t hold Tashard’s jock strap.

By gdawginkalamazoo

October 17, 2007 4:23 PM | Link to this

Jim Rome wouldn’t exist on the ariwaves or TV if Jim (Chris) Everett hadn’t of slapped him off his stool years ago. He ought be writing big checks to old Jim. Made a name for himself with the ultimate disrespect. Love Frank Caliendo’s impressions of him, they tick off old Romie to no end. If You Tube would have been around that footage would have gone on there and Rome would have gone nowhere.

By Spike

October 17, 2007 4:29 PM | Link to this

THROW THE ROCK TO KRIS DURHAM!!! hE HAS GREAT HANDS!!! Then let Moreno run it!!!

By Cuz

October 17, 2007 4:35 PM | Link to this

Whitey, I don’t believe Deuce Choice was even mentioned but thanks for your input. It just confirms the general opinion of you, blog on.

By Wes

October 17, 2007 4:38 PM | Link to this

War Eagle,

I think Stafford is playing a lot better than what the offense is trying to let him…if that makes sense.

New offensive coordinator (I think) still can’t completely open up the playbook because, compared to last year, we don’t have the offensive linemen, tightends, or experienced running backs with the in-depth knowledge needed to give him protection and time to throw the ball. Despite all of this, he’s still putting up better numbers than he did last season. I’m sure a lot of it has to do w/ natural maturation between his freshman and soph. years, but the proof is in the puddin’

By scooter11

October 17, 2007 5:42 PM | Link to this

whiteandurine: bet you’d hold choice’s jockstrap - while he’s wearing it.

By Buck in the NW

October 17, 2007 6:05 PM | Link to this

Ditto on the thanks. the papers out here show the Vol/’Bamma game at 12:30 on CBS. Like the rest of you, I watched Stafford over look open receivers and throw to others but since that wasn’t Stafford M.O., I wonder why he’s done that. It simply doesn’t compute. We have a QB who’s not dumb(3.75 GPA), who’s completed throws across the middle so I wonder how much freedom he has to break his progressions so he can hit an open man? I’ve pointed out his mistakes as well as his good play but there are to many things that don’t make sense to me. How or what causes a QB who in H.S. hit deep patterns all day long and now all of a sudden he can’t hit a long ball? He hit the long ball in the AU game, the 25 yd. winner against ‘Bamma so maybe my confusion is what Bobo wants. It appears that they’ve pin pointed his problem and that a lack of concentration when he’s not under pressure so there’s a starting point. Hard to believe the truth but 80% completion rate in pressure sits and 49% in regular play. Go figure.

By 59bulldawg

October 17, 2007 6:17 PM | Link to this

Terrell was a great back in the NFL but while at Georgia he was very mediocre! Chip, just curious? Where does Horace King, Jimmy Poulous, and “Gliding” Glynn Harrison rank? I couldn’t agree more with whoever ranked Herschel #1, Herschel #2, and Herschel #3 among Georgia’s all-time top backs. I think most Dawg fans would probably agree that we’ll never see the likes of another Walker in this lifetime. But Harrison made some beautiful runs while at Georgia too. And Moreno has a great deal of potential to move up the list if he can stay healthy. I like the way he finishes off his runs by lowering his shoulder and punishing the tackler. But I agree it’e way too early to judge! All I will say at this point is that I hope his pads are extra thick and that the big boys up front block their butts off for him!

By Big Buck

October 17, 2007 7:15 PM | Link to this

What difference does it make where Moreno ranks with other backs? He apparently is a good young man and a hell of a football player. Let ‘em loose.

By Gamecock Chrissy

October 17, 2007 7:21 PM | Link to this

I guess this is what you guys talk about when your team is terrible.

By Willysee

October 17, 2007 7:27 PM | Link to this

This is a tad off subject,I’d like to point out that if the program was operated like it was in the past Lumpkin,Brown and others would have been used and discarded.I hope they both get their shot at a pro career.I PRAY that they get their diplomas.The way this should work is,these kids come to UGA,they’re made to get their class work done.Then when they leave school they either go on to the NFL or to the careers they choose.Either way they have an extended family.If they go into insurance or open a resturant anywhere in DAWG nation their association with the school should be a lifetime asset,that’s the perfect circle.

By Buck in the NW

October 17, 2007 7:39 PM | Link to this

Isn’t it a bit early to start rating Moreno and trying to compare him with the outstanding backs that have played for Ga. in the past? He’s only played one half of one year and I don’t see how any valid comparaison can be made. Give the guy some time.

By cooter11

October 17, 2007 8:24 PM | Link to this

Fran Tark….used to run (scramble) a bunch…. LOL!

By Davisboro Dawg

October 17, 2007 9:30 PM | Link to this

About Robert Edwards at UGA - he was the last scholarship offered to UGA that year, and as memory serves me, qualified very late to even get in school. While in high school, he played an H-back / tailback type of position, along with being an all-state DB. He also punted for that team. His HS senior year - Washington County went to the state finals for the first time ever in the history of the school, led by then first year coach Rick Tomberlin (who produced some great teams playing at the House of Pain in Sandersville before moving on to Valdosta a couple of years ago.) So he was an offensive playmaker, but an even better defensive player at the time given his all-state status his senior year. I’m not defending the Goff coaching staff, but he was playing the position that he had played all his life and the one for which he had been recruited. It was almost a fluke that they tried him out at TB in Athens, because they were very thin at RB during the spring/summer and they approach Robert about giving it a go…and hence another great UGA RB was added to this list.

I know what I’m talking about…I’m from Washington County…where Robert and Terrence are from…as is Takeo Spikes…look up Davisboro on the map…

By shane

October 17, 2007 9:45 PM | Link to this

buck,i agree,too much hype too early can hurt a kid.moreno loves the game of football,it is evident when you watch him run and in the way he runs back to the huddle.lets not rob his joy by making him think he has to”carry”the team.he has the ability to be one of the best,if he can keep his head,continue to work hard,and avoid injurys.i think thomas brown has been a good influence on him,helping him keep his head on straight.brown has shown him the path to success,on the field and in the classroom.if he will follow the trail that has been blazed for him and avoid off-field problems he will do well.i am glad that moreno,lump and brown are so close and i like the way they pull for each other.that is what being a teammate is all about.

By shane

October 17, 2007 10:17 PM | Link to this

davisboro,you are right sir,i remember that edwards started out as a db at uga.thomas davis was a very good rb as well as lb at randolph-clay.he was to play lb at uga,as he is now at carolina,but was switched to safety because of injurys to the dbs.he became an all american at safety.samuels has been upgraded to five stars,i wonder if he will play rb or linebacker at uga?

By Buck in the NW

October 17, 2007 11:41 PM | Link to this

Bad thought but what if Moreno gets hurt in the Reptile game? who plays? IMO. they should have pulled the “Shirt” off of CK 5 games ago. I really don’t want to hear that he wasn’t ready because he would have had some time to play and get ready. In this situation, i believe that the staff wasn’t thinking of the kid or the team. Maybe it’s something you don’t want to do but we surely took a high risk gamble that has blown up in the teams face. We had 3 TB than one breaks a thumb, then another gets hurt and is out for 4-6 weeks and finally Lumpkin’s gone and our entire rushing attack falls on the shoulders of one back. I just hope he doesn’t get hurt…….Stafford it’s really time for you to step up and lead this team. He’ll never read this but maybe a coach may be saying the same thing to him.

By shane

October 18, 2007 12:14 AM | Link to this

buck,how many tbs do you need to make it through the sec?i am beginning to wonder.if life was fair the injury gods would have been a little kinder to us this year.with a young team,enough of a problem despite all that doubt our coaches,we lose two seniors at a critical position.not only that,injurys have prevented us from stabalizing our young line.i hope brown will be ready for uf,and we don’t have any more linemen banged up.i am glad they have a light practice schedule this week.let’s have everybody rested and healthy.i would hate to lose a year of kings eligability for four games.i hope knowshon stays healthy,he has been the bright spot of the year for uga.

By Cuz

October 18, 2007 6:50 AM | Link to this

Buck, King was not ready. Sorry could not help myself. I am not ready to throw CK into the grinder yet. We are just going to have to play what we got. I agree, after one start, it is far to early to ask how Knowshon stacks up to guys who played entire seasons. At the end of the season, we can answer this question.

I went to school with Herschel. I knew him and spoke with him whenever we met up. No I was not his best friend, just an aquaintance. We were both two small town boys from the same part of the state and we enjoyed talking mostly about class and life instead of football. There never will be another like him. Big and strong and fast enough to come in 4th in the NCAA track and field 100 yard dash. It may even have been third, I disremember. Linemen back then weighed around 280, not 310. Could he do it today, yes I believe he could. I just do not see another one coming along.

By Buck in the NW

October 18, 2007 7:13 AM | Link to this

I don’t want to burn CB’s freshman year with 5 games to go and I for sure don’t know what we did to make the FB gods mad at our team but they are. No one could have for seen what was going to happen but the team is in a pickle now. For whatever the reason CMR wasn’t going play King in ‘07 anyway so now the team should know what type of defenses we’ll face the rest of ‘07. Maybe some new spirit in the backfield behind Moreno will supply a new push. I hope so.

By BIG GATOR

October 18, 2007 8:55 AM | Link to this

Ugag, you better find some more running backs. The Gators are going to have Moreno for lunch. Go Gators!!!!

By BIG GATOR

October 18, 2007 8:55 AM | Link to this

Ugag, you better find some more running backs. The Gators are going to have Moreno for lunch. Go Gators!!!!

By gator the dog catcher

October 18, 2007 9:01 AM | Link to this

Caleb King drove his moped down a one way street the wrong way without a liscence……..and this is the “future” of your program. Caleb King is the next Hershel Walker (in the classroom only)!!!!!!!!

By shane

October 18, 2007 9:44 AM | Link to this

big gator,i can tell by your handle you have an overblown opinion of yourself.i hope your team is as cocky.i think you are right about having moreno for lunch,i think you could add dinner and breakfast.as a matter of fact i believe the lizards will see so much of moreno that they will be sick of the moreno diet,and will not want to see him on their plates again anytime soon.

By Buck in the NW

October 18, 2007 10:57 AM | Link to this

cuz, shane I don’t disagree about CK being ready.,As I said CMR had no intention of playing him in ‘07. Now I just hope that Moreno doesn’t get hurt and as far as Stafford goes, He’s really got to step up to the plate and deli ever. You guys are lucky because the Fl/Ky.. game isn’t bring shown out here. Can anybody tell ME the time and network that’s broadcasting that game? Hoping one of the sports bars will pick it up. I have no problem with King not playing because like I said if he were going to play the “Shirt” would have come off long ago. Now I hope this will put enough pressure on Stafford that he’ll play up to his potentential.

By AltamahaDawg

October 18, 2007 11:18 AM | Link to this

Jason Johnson is a very capable guy whos been around a long time and can spare Moreno just fine. He has also shown in the past 2 G-day games, that given a chance, he is capable to of picking up decent yardage. Chappas can absorb a few of the hits. That walk on freshman did look decent on the third string. Non of those guys are the weapon we’d like to have, but if we are relying on our back up RB being a game breaker, we are in serious trouble. I’d guess Southerland will be in the plan a bit more too. Moreno isn’t going to have to carry the team on his own.

By gdawginkalamazoo

October 18, 2007 11:20 AM | Link to this

Buck, what of the progression check downs for Stafford? I haven’t been able to watch a lot of the games because the big ten network won’t replay them for some reason. However, from reading the post in here and from what I have been able to watch, is that there are wide open guys on the field when Staff chunks to a fully covered guy. Is this some kinda ploy to throw off the D coordinators for future games? Might be questionable about the time to throw factor too. The line looks more than sufficient at times. If we aren’t checking down the WR line on a play then all the opposing coordinators have to do is figure out the lead guy (Chandler most likely) and cover him. I would think the check downs on the long patterns would give us some thing underneath to hit for yardage. Just my opinion though.

By Buck in the NW

October 18, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this

Kalamazoo, I posted earlier about this very same thing. Stafford’s not dumb and I’v watched him not throw to receivers open down the middle but i don’t have any idea why he passes over them then throw in to coverage. I wonder just how tight the lease they have on him? IMO, for sure they haven’t built a team around his strengths but we have cut way down on th TOs and pics but we’re not throwing the ball and haceing us dictate the game….The past is all for naught because with the RB situation the way it is I think we’ll see the most creative offense we’ve seen in ‘07. We have to. Everybody earns their keep from now on or we have a losing record for the year. Altahama, that’s what I meant about the new blood bring some fresh energy to the attack.

By JamieDAWG

October 18, 2007 12:11 PM | Link to this

Gamecock chrissy,

You, like every other “Carolina Girl”, are a hoebag. I tell you what…why don’t you go back to your corner in 5 points somewhere and we’ll worry about football, okay? 1 win over us, clemson, or whoever else doesn’t qualify USuCk as “arrived”. I guess you better enjoy your “golden” year while you can because SOS will be calling plays from the LSU sideline next year.

By Buck in the NW

October 18, 2007 12:31 PM | Link to this

I don’t beleve for one second that SOS has any intentions of leaving SC. he’s to close to wining the SEC East and then the conference Title to leave now.

By CKDawg65

October 18, 2007 12:35 PM | Link to this

I said the first time I saw him he is the best we have had since Hearst, which doesn’t sound like much until you think it was 15 years ago. Also, I didn’t see a lot about Musa Smith in the Blog…great back for that one championship year in ‘02.

By VolNAtl

October 18, 2007 12:38 PM | Link to this

Did you Dawg fans hear that?

…yep, we just scored on you again!

By Red Clay Hound

October 18, 2007 1:13 PM | Link to this

Any word on when Ian Smith will return?

By gdawginkalamazoo

October 18, 2007 1:21 PM | Link to this

VolINAtl, yeah and you get Phil for one more year. No QB next year either. Keep cheering. We saved his job. Tehehehehe, hahahahahaaaaa!

By gdawginkalamazoo

October 18, 2007 1:54 PM | Link to this

gtdc, at least it wasn’t felony breaking and entering like your QB’s ear kissing cellmate, I mean roommate.

By War Eagle

October 18, 2007 2:50 PM | Link to this

Three best RB`s to play at UGA, in my opinion. Hershel Walker,Charlie Tripp(feedback from former UGA coaches), >Garrison Hearst-Robert Edwards he could be a great one if offense gears toward giving him ball 20-25 times EVERY GAME.

By Wes

October 18, 2007 3:39 PM | Link to this

Buck and Zoo,

Just a thought, but, we all know that Stafford is not lacking in confidence. Not to say he’s cocky, but he completely believes in his abilities.

With that being said, I wonder if the missing his checkdowns isn’t on his own shoulders. To this point, the only thing he’s consistently struggled with is the long ball. How much of it do you think is him pressing to try and either a) fix the problem, or b) prove that the problem doesn’t exist?

By A-ville Ranger

October 18, 2007 4:00 PM | Link to this

I saw a qoute attributed to coach Bobo that they were going to RIDE Moreno.What if he’s hurt ? is it right to give a redshirt freshman 30 carries a game ? Knowshon was obviously beat up from one game of heavy use.Knowshon will give his all if asked….he shouldn’t be asked to.Give the fullbacks and Johnson some work and keep KM’s load down to 22 or so carries.

By Big Dawg

October 18, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this

Cuz and Shane,

With all due respect a little inside information from one of the assistant coaches, Caleb King has been performing in practice the same way Knowshon Moreno was all last year and this year so far. The Coaches and players alike have uwed and awed at how well he has picked up the play book and performed. He is also further along in his progression as a blocker than Lumpkin is in his 5th year at Georgia and he happens to catch the ball quite well, runs good pass routes and has shown he can get separation from the DB’s. IMHO Coach Ball, Bobo and ultimately Coach Richt are making a huge mistake in not getting this guy some actual game experience as he could provide us with another weapon capable of taking it to the house anytime he touches the ball and has that “IT” just like Knowshon Moreno. I would hate to have Coach Richt saying next year he should have taken the shirt off of him the way he has with Moreno and others this year. We are going to need him next year as Brown, Jason Johnson and Lumpkin will be gone and the only Tail Back with game experience will be Moreno, not a good situation IMHO.

Now as to GA’s best RB’s of all time-

1. Herschel
2. Hearst
3. Trippi
4. Sinkwich
5. Hampton
6. McClendon
7. Henderson
8. Poulos
9. Worley
10. Musa Smith

Go Dawgs

By Buck in the NW

October 18, 2007 5:42 PM | Link to this

Wes that could be a part of the problem. I don’t know, you don’t and the coaches don’t know. I’m sure I’ll be branded a heretic but we have nothing to lose so why not be supportive of Stafford and let him devise a game plan and the coaches fine tune it. Let him be the leader for a chamge. they can always step in and change the plan so why not. We’ve coached down his mistakes but the staff hasn’t shown that they are capable of handling success. CMR is to busy making the other team look good. I haven’t said correctly what I wanted to and took up to much space. Give him direction, help. moral support and let him go. We have not a thing to lose by playing to his strengths……Moreno and King. Big mistake IMO but it doesn’t matter because only Sr. can lead….I’m just a spectator an I want to watch CMR and Bobo handle the hard part. that is handle a player with real talent. Lets see how they do.

By I-DOG

October 18, 2007 6:22 PM | Link to this

Chip,

Since it is an off week…could you get into on two questions?

1.) How is it looking for Hebron to come to Athens to play next year?

2.) What is going on with Kevin Perez? It would seem that we would have him penciled in at center for next year, but I don’t think he is playing much or at all? Are the coaches high on him for next year or is he struggling?

By I-DOG

October 18, 2007 6:31 PM | Link to this

Sinkwich and Trippi were great, but it was a different era, so I don’t think we can compare Moreno with those guys.

I think Moreno will end up looking in the league of Hampton, Edwards, and Worley, but I don’t think he is as good as Walker or Hearst.

You can be a great back and not be as good as W and H.

Also, Brandon Miller is not the biggest bust by a long shot. Miller is a disapointment compared to his recruiting hype… but he is contributing and even forced an important fumble this year.

Marquise Elmore is the biggest bust of the last 10 years.

By Cuz's therapist

October 18, 2007 6:54 PM | Link to this

Big Dawg you have more info on King than I have seen. If he is ready, I would not be against playing him. I just did not want to throw him into the fire if he was not ready, especially if we have others who can block and run. If we put him in the Jax game, it would posibly discombobulate the UF D coaches for a few series.

The fire Meyer bandwagon will get under way after Kentucky beats them this Saturday.

If we do not play wide open, we have the potential to lose out except maybe Troy. Time to get creative and let it all hang out in Jax.

That said, I think on any weekend any SEC team can beat another except for poor Miss State. Let’s open up the conference, invite USF in the east and Sou Miss in the west. USF is a good team, let them play in the SEC and they will either become a great team or get beat up like the rest of us.

Buck, undoubtedly some sports bar will have the NCAA package and you will be able to watch the UF-UK game.

By I-DOG

October 18, 2007 6:56 PM | Link to this

GTDC:

I enjoy having you on this board and your sense of humor, but you have to be kidding me ripping on King for a moped violation while Gainseville leads the nation this year (official stat in USA TODAY ) with 9 arrests of football players.

These aren’t the ticky tack open container and moped violations that UGA had endured, these are serious violent crimes: Drugs, Guns, Burglary.

Our future star may have gotten in trouble for driving his moped without a license (what a thug!) but your team captain was arrested on a Tuesday for felony burglary and he played on Saturday night???

No wonder Gators wear jean shorts, if they wore regular jeans they would get wet in the knee deep cesspool that is the swamp!

By Cuz's probation officer

October 18, 2007 7:10 PM | Link to this

Okay, I got accused of stealing a tree this week. Fortunately, I had an air tight alibi. No hablo Englesh.

By shane

October 18, 2007 8:13 PM | Link to this

what i want to know is,who is cuz’s bartender?i think he is the only one of cuz’s posse we haven’t heard from yet.except miss st?cuz,have you forgotten the auburn game?miller is definately not the biggest bust.elmore,i had forgotten about him untill you mentioned him,and lest we forget,the five star jasper sanks.what do you say about a five star rb that’s most famous for a fumble?i-dog,things look good for hebron to be back next year,we sure can use him!did you guys read where aj harmon said that if coaches are fired at clemson that he would go to ga?this could be the best class richt has ever had,IMO,it already is.somebody mentioned perez,well i think the kid from bama could start,he is still rated just three stars,but rivals has him rated the best center in the southeast.samuels has been upgraded to five stars,the first five star rb since lump,and some horses for the d line.i hope we will sign a couple more o linemen and a stud lb.i wish they would look at rb chris clay very closely,the kid had 220 yds and three tds in the second half friday!

By shane

October 18, 2007 8:18 PM | Link to this

BTW,cuz,it should be inglisa.my favorite,spelled phoneticaly——ess not my yob.should be spoken with shrugged shoulders for best effect.

By War Eagle

October 18, 2007 8:33 PM | Link to this

UGA has had about 25 recruiting bust since CMR era, but still has had a successful W_L record. This is the reason UGA has not won a NC as other recruiting gru`s LSU, Texas, USC and Florida.Auburn and Tenn have lost several recruits to UGA past few years. Auburn signed 4 from Ga last year,signing 10 or 12 from Florida. It was just opposite few years ago, but CMR has been the throne in Ga especially Metro Atlanta. Auburn miss these recruits, but Florida is a galaxy for speed. Auburn present commitment, almost 1/2 from Florid,3 from Ga. Auburn and Florida 2008 class, will be limited this year due to only 12 seniors.

By Buck in the NW

October 18, 2007 9:09 PM | Link to this

Wes. Ito from other people ha heard that CK was doing all he was asked to do and then some but we have to remember that CMR is stuck with the old ways and that is true freshman should be seen and but heard from unless the absolutely. We’re playing true freshmen but it’s only because we have no other choice….Wes it could be either one or both that’s another reason I ask, why not let him really git into the game planning and listen to his ideas and try to implicate them. The coaches can step in and change anything they want to at any time…….A-ville Ranger, you are soooooo right. I don’t believe that Moreno can carry the ball 25-30 times and not get hurt….I’m sure some will disagree with this idea but it’s novel and won’t hurt but may be a big boost to out Offense.

By Atlanta Gator

October 18, 2007 9:23 PM | Link to this

Cuz et al——It seems that the Dawgs-Gators smack-talk has begun a week or so earlier than usual. Remember, REAL Gator fans are focused on the Wildcats this week, not the Dawgs. Enjoy getting a week’s head start; we’ll be back to discuss this year’s Cocktail Party after this week’s game in Lexington. = )

GTDC——Keep’em busy until reinforcements arrive.

By War Eagle

October 18, 2007 9:38 PM | Link to this

Buck, SEC RB has 100 plus yards a game will win 90% of your games. This takes carries in the SEC. Auburn had two RB out rush McFadden at Ark. LSU lost to KY,Hester was lack carries(hurt). UGA will beat Florida if they contain Tebow running the football 15 0r less times.

By Cuz's alter ego

October 18, 2007 9:39 PM | Link to this

shane, the reason my bartender has not spoken is that I keep her very busy plying me with medicinal alcohol. the more I drink the better looking I get. Well thats my story and I am sticking to it.

Atlanta Gator, gtdc and I signed the terms of the Jax convention several years ago. I cannot talk smack about beating the Gators untill two weeks before the game untill we win one. Well since I signed the terms, of course we have not won. I am in the window baby…… DAWGS WIN, DAWGS WIN, DAWGS WIN…. WE GET THIS CHIMP OFF OUR BACK AND TURN THE SERIES AROUND… YEAH BABY, OLD DAYS, GOOD TIMES I REMEMBER…THE RED AND BLACK TRAIN IS COMING DOWN THE TRACK AND WE AINT STOPPING TILL WE RIP UP THE SOD IN THE GATOR BOWL…

Just like Martin Luther King Jr., I have a dream. Hope springs eternal every October. One year, my dream will come true. After watching NCAA football this year, hey it could happen.

By Cuz's Jedi sponsor

October 18, 2007 9:48 PM | Link to this

War glad to see you on the blog. I enjoyed watching you and the rest of your team honored for your championship. Well done my friend, well done.

By Cuz's Flying Elvis teammate

October 18, 2007 9:55 PM | Link to this

What the heck does Rutgers mean anyway? Is it a person, a place or an invertebrate subspecies? Someone tell me.

By A-ville Ranger

October 18, 2007 10:27 PM | Link to this

I was reading the article that’s up on Jason Johnson when I saw something that’s been echoed over and over the last week.What was asserted was that most teams have backs who carry most of the load and we’re the exception so running Moreno all the time is really normal.I didn’t buy this so I did a little digging.I looked at teams who I know to have featured backs.Of those I looked at only Mike Hart at Michigan and Justin Forsett at Cal have over half their team’s carries,both have 64%.Rafael Little at Kentucky has 39%,Chris Wells at Ohio St has 40%,Terry Grant at Alabama has 39% and Jacob Hester at LSU has 33%.So where does Moreno fit in at this point ? he has 46%. The other backs with a higher % of their team’s carries are seniors.So now we’re ready to put even more on a freshman…wrong move..

By A-ville Ranger

October 18, 2007 11:19 PM | Link to this

Adding to my last post,of the top 31 runners in the bowl league only one Mike Hart has averaged 28 carries a game,he averages 28.5.Last week Moreno carried 28 times,Hart is a senior built like a tank who runs behind a very good line.Moreno has to work twice as hard per carry as Hart in positions that leave him vulnerable to hits.Add to this his blocking assignments and catches.Johnson should get 8 to 10 carries,the FBs should get 5 to 10 and Knowshon should be limited to 22 runs.Soak that in…only one of the top 31 backs average 28 a game,none of the rest come even close and I bet few if any work as hard to get them as Moreno.It would be stupid to kill a golden goose and he’s not a goose…he’s a kid with a future to look out for.

By Gen Neyland

October 18, 2007 11:35 PM | Link to this

cuzdawgonthesavannah

Didn’t poor lil’ MS ST beat Auburn..?

War Eagle

If timing is everything, GOOD LUCK with LSU. It can happen…Ought to be the show in the SEC this weekend.

shane

Your 0944 post of 10/18 was spot on, ol’ chap…Good show.

We have our own Red Elephants to fry…GO VOLS

From this enemy blogger, pull the shirt off CK. Take away his Moped, put him in a chauffeur driven Caddy and let him get going…

By UGASUX

October 19, 2007 2:31 AM | Link to this

ARE YOU ALL STONED UGAY SUCKS DONKEY BALLS. THIS GUY PILED UP YARDS AGAINST VANDY AND YOU GOT LUCKY ON A FUMBLE. UGA SUCKS AND IS GETTING WORSE. Quit taking drugs.

By La Jolla Dawg

October 19, 2007 9:17 AM | Link to this

Since this post is still up (hint, hint) and I have already discussed the UGA running back situation, time to move on to Ray Rice—he is a lot of fun to watch. Rice, like Moreno, plays with a lot of heart. Greg Schiano is fun to watch as well, he shows (IMO) the right amount of emotion on the sideline, you can tell he really wants to win. The USF coach was painful to watch once they fell behind, the faces he was making and his loss of control was hard to stomach—reminded me of Ron Zook.

By shane

October 19, 2007 9:26 AM | Link to this

is there any way to sneak greg blue into this game?one shot from him would alter tebow’s genetic code.and,possibly,his zip and area code!i miss that guy,but not as much as richt and wm.i will not reply to anyone named sux,a man has to have standards! general,thanks,i hope moreno runs hard,early,and often,and that our young lines actually opens a hole now and then.although moreno and brown may be too shocked to run if they see a hole!they will wonder where everybody went! cuz,i wish i was important enough to rate a posse,or is it multiple personality disorder?hmmmmmmm

By War Eagle

October 19, 2007 9:39 AM | Link to this

Gen, Vols will wear down the Bama defense, hands will be on their hips 3rd quarter. Easy sailing afterwards…good luck Do you remember when Tenn recruited all those LB and RB out of GA? Auburn best offensive lineman EVER was from Atlanta,(Tracy Rocker), RB was Auburn delight in Ga. CMR has done a good job recruiting in GA, but will he win a NC before Auburn or Tenn? I don`t see it now, but tide can change. LSU mightr change our oil, they are the best…

By shane

October 19, 2007 9:43 AM | Link to this

la jolla dog,when you have a more emotional coach on the sidelines you have to take the good with the bad.just as sure as the obc will throw a visor,and pull a qb out of the game.i prefer a more stoic head coach myself.when things are going to hell somebody has to keep their head.is anyone intrested in getting up a pool on how many times the visor hits the ground in the rest of the season?we could have a bonus for triples,that’s the visor,headphones,and clipboard.

By Wes

October 19, 2007 10:11 AM | Link to this

Buck,

I completely agree about letting Stafford have a bit more of a say in the play calling. Richt and Bobo have both said that he plays best and looks most comfortable when he’s running game winning drives, two minute drills, etc. That’s usually when a QB is calling the plays and/or has the most say in play selection.

I say give him the first quarter and see what happens…what’s to lose? It’s not like we’ve been lighting it up coming out of the gate this year.

By La Jolla Dawg

October 19, 2007 10:59 AM | Link to this

Shane, I agree that emotional coaches sometimes lose it, and that can certainly be a detriment to the their team. As a fan, I still prefer to see someone who shows some fire on the sideline. I know this has been discussed to death, but Richt’s calm demeanor would be fine if there was someone else on the coaching staff who was visibly fired up. I remember when David Greene’s calm demeanor was being constantly linked and attributed to the calm demeanor of his head coach, that was fine and probably true and probably a good thing. By the same token, I believe Coach Richt said something about the defense not being “mean enough.” Didn’t he say that in his last press conference? If so, why aren’t they mean enough? Maybe they are following the lead of their coach? Anyway, not a huge deal, I really enjoy watching Rutgers play, and last night was the first of their games I watched all the way through and I was reminded of how great Ray Rice is and how good of a coach (IMO) Greg Schiano is.

By Buck in the NW

October 19, 2007 11:10 AM | Link to this

Wes I posted that idea for just the reason’s you said but you said it better and in less words.

By Ray

October 19, 2007 11:36 AM | Link to this

Wow, congrats uga for adding Central Mich. As a dawg fan and first time here, its almost sad that we add schools like Central Mich while other SEC schools add California, USC and other big name and upcoming schools. Is the SEC tough yes it is, but we can’t use the excuse any more that the SEC schedule is so tough that every week is too strong to add more powerhouses. I know this is off the main subject matter but I just read what we added to the schedule. And this stuff, the schedules are not available etc. hhmmm how come everyone else is able to add strong schools but we can’t?

By I-DOG

October 19, 2007 11:59 AM | Link to this

I actually like Richts’ demeanor on the sideline and in general. I understand that some folks would like a more demonstrative leader (those guys from the Rutgers South Florida game last nigth looked their heads were going to explode if their team got a penalty!)

I’d like to see our assistants show more emotion on gameday (Martinez has been getting fired up), but we can win with a cool head coach. Richt won 13 games and finished 3rd in the polls just a few years ago. I think the preparation during the week is hurting our play on Saturdays more than lack of outward emotion shown by the head coach.

There is no reason with 2 weeks to prepare that our defense can’t control Tebow left, Tebow right, and end around handoff to Harvin. If FL beats us with some imaginative play calling, I can live with that… If it is 3rd and 12 and we don’t put two spies on Tebow to control his running… I will be sick.

Offensively, I’d like to see us get some short passes going early with 3 step drops and some screens (we haven’t done much screening in the last 2-3 ballgames and FL will not be keying on this). This will help get Stafford in a rythm early and THEN we can begin to establish the running game with Moreno and take some shots down field.

Moreno will not wear down in the FL game and over the balance of the season. He can handle 25-30 carries in the FL game after an off week, no problem.

Brown will be back after that or hopefully for the FL game to cut down a little on Moreno’s workload the rest of the season. This is not a guy who has been carrying 30+ carries every game, he has been splitting time with other backs and should be reasonably fresh at this point in the season.

By Check the Schedule

October 19, 2007 12:55 PM | Link to this

Ray,

How about checking the schedule before you pop off about our scheduling Cent Mich. We GO to Arizona St next year (if you hadn’t noticed they are currently undefeated)and play the NATS at home. Central Michigan was a bowl team last year and is looking that way again this year. The ‘08 schedule has 11 potential bowl teams from this year (and if Vandy upsets someone down the line it could be 12). You need a week that you aren’t getting beat up at least once a season.

FYI we go to Okla St in ‘09, and Colorado in ‘10, and have Oregon in ‘11. Not exactly a “patsy” OOC schedule.

And another note, evidently we have tried to schedule “big name” OOC games like Penn St, Notre Dame, etc and THEY WON’T PLAY US!

By dawgfacedboy

October 19, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this

We’re half way through the first season of this kid’s career and we’re supposed to rank him among the best?? I’ll hold my vote till the end of the ‘09 season.

Central Michigan?? Really?? Ga. Southern? Really?? Look folks, I realize that playing in the SEC makes it harder for us to schedule tough out of conference opponents but we’ve got to if we going to get the respect and contend for a NC! Just ask Auburn how it feels to have you panzy a* non-conference schdedule screw you in the end! Central Michigan, Ga. Southern, gimme a %$#@ break!!

By TruDawg

October 19, 2007 1:15 PM | Link to this

Ray, How about as yet unbeaten Arizona State?

By Red Clay Hound

October 19, 2007 1:46 PM | Link to this

Before Ian Smith was arrested the second time for public intoxication, wasn’t he slated to be the starting center? Seems like he was suspended for the first 5-6 games. If that is the case, does anyone know if he will be back and can we expect him to contribute to this young o line this year? This could mean that Velasco could be moved to guard or tackle.

By Ray

October 19, 2007 2:00 PM | Link to this

Arizona State, undefeated yes, look who they have coming up and then talk to me about being undefeated. Don’t hand me this stuff Central Mich was a bowl team. That doesn’t mean they are that strong. Be realistic. And oh yeah Ok State, come on. Why don’t you go ahead and say Mississippi is a strong team. hmm Penn State, Notre Dame they will play UT and UCLA, Tex but they will not play UGA. I am a dawg backer but I have a problem with us not playing anyone. So all of these other teams will play Auburn, bama, UT but will not play UGA. How realistic is that. Seriously.

By Ray

October 19, 2007 2:18 PM | Link to this

dawgface, you are right and made my point for me. The year Auburn went undefeated, they had 3 very weak teams on their schedule. It killed them. Are we looking for an SEC East Championship or are we looking to contend for a NC. If you want to contend for a National Championship you have to go out and play people. As much as I hate to, but Auburn, UT and others are doing. Why are all of the other strong teams doing it and we are not. Kills me to say this but looking in the UGA mirror, maybe we are not a top tier program any more. Reality is taking the place of Reputation.

By shane

October 19, 2007 2:30 PM | Link to this

ray,okie st and central mic were acheduled in the first place because oregon st backed out on their contract.notre dame?give me a break!not only are they 1 and 6 this year,they haven’t won a bowl game this century.why bother putting them on a schedule,unless you want an easy win.nd proved last year that even with an nfl qb they don’t beong on the field with a sec team.btw,i have no doubt that ole miss would beat nd easily.they have played uf,bama,and uga tough this year.all three of these teams are better than notre dame.

By Ray

October 19, 2007 2:47 PM | Link to this

Shane, I agree with you about ND. My whole point is that we are not playing anyone. Until we start scheduling bigger teams than Central Mich, we are not going to get the desired national attention we all want. SEC East titles are okay and I understand the first step, but bragging about Cent Mich and OK State, not exactly world beaters. And as far as AZ State, lets see what they do in the next 4 weeks. They have Oregon, Calif, USC during that time. Lets not call them a top program just quite yet.

By AltamahaDawg

October 19, 2007 2:51 PM | Link to this

AU was #4 by midseason 2004, so its not thier schedule. The top team just didn’t clear out. Most folks didn’t think USC had a much more difficult schedule in 2004. AU didnt get into the NC game because they started too far back to start the year, based off thier dispointing 2003 season.

UF just won a NC while playing Western carolina (or Ky), SouMiss, and Central Fl (did they even win a game last year), AND one regular season loss. So you cannot make some definative statement about what it takes schedule-wise to get to the NC game.

I beleive if you read the article Central Michigan,(bowl team last year) was basically who we COULD get. It’s not like Ohio state is just out there looking to pick up an opener next year.

By I-DOG

October 19, 2007 9:17 PM | Link to this

Red Clay Hound:

Ian Smith was suspended for 5-6 games this year, but I don’t think he ever got out of the dog house after the 2nd alc infraction.

I believe he quit the team last month. What kind of contribution he would have made is anyone’s guess, but it ended up being zero. He was one of the top 100 players in the South coming out of Cartersville.

Remember the guy on this board from Cartersville after the first offense saying basically “that is how we roll in Cartersville and how much character Smith had”

What a waste.

By shane

October 20, 2007 5:56 AM | Link to this

ray,remember that strength of schedule doesn’t count in the bcs anymore.look at ohio st in first place.i don’t agree with this,but facts are facts.i understand what you mean about national recognition,and it seems that we are working on it.i stated in my earlier post that okie state and central mich were last minute substitutes,because a contract was breached.if you want to be angry at someone,get angry at oregon st.we can’t have our guys playing national powers every week,not if we want a shot at a nc.next years schedule is one of the toughest in the sec,if not the entire country.believe me,if we go undefeated,which i doubt,we will get plenty of recognition.