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By HeAin'tNoHerschel

September 12, 2007 1:29 PM | Link to this

He ain’t no Herschel… thats for sure. I sure wish ole Herschel would come back. I loved watching him.

By Greg

September 12, 2007 1:39 PM | Link to this

No question he should have gotten the ball more on that second to last drive. He is going to be a beast. While Lumpkin and Brown have both been great, I think Moreno has something different. It’s an intangible that seperates great college RB’s from ones who you can tell are going to be big time, in college and the pros. I am not quite sure what it is, but I know if Stafford can get his strong arm under control, watching the two of them play together for the next few years is going to be pretty.

By born 2 bark

September 12, 2007 1:42 PM | Link to this

From what I have seen of him so far, I would say he has it all! Strong, fast, attitude, desire to make plays. When he has a little running room he can turn it into a 50 yd gain. When he doesn’t, he still runs it into the teeth of the D and gets 4 or 5 yards. I haven’t been more excited about a TB ever after only seeing them in 2 games. He definitely NEEDS to get the ball more. Brown is an excellent TB as well but we won’t really know KNowshon’s full potential until we give him every opportunity to show it. Hell, alternate him and Brown on Kick off returns. I would bet big money he will be one of our great ones.

By War Eagle

September 12, 2007 1:51 PM | Link to this

No, play him minutes, but #20 has earned his position, plus is a good player.

By sobedawg

September 12, 2007 1:55 PM | Link to this

He’s KNOWSHON…he’s got his own special name, and his own special gifts…and will do GREAT things for us before it’s all said and done…mark my word…Sobedawg

By CapeCodDawg

September 12, 2007 2:03 PM | Link to this

Moreno brings FIRE to the field. He has alot of energy out there and really seems to be enjoying himself when he’s on the field. When I watch him,everytime he’s tackled he jumps up and his body language is saying “You guys got luck….THIS time! He really is a joy to watch.

When him and King get out there.Watch out!

By Dana

September 12, 2007 2:03 PM | Link to this

The thing I like most about Moreno is his intencity. He has a couple of good runs and should be tired and he is still the first one back in the huddle each time. I wish we had more players like him.

GO DAWGS!!

By jim

September 12, 2007 2:05 PM | Link to this

Tony Ball has seen what each ‘back can do and if he says Moreno is not ready yet, then I take his word for it. Being a running back is not just being able to run but must also have the ability to pick up blocking assignments, and know the system inside and out. Tony Ball has seen more in practice and at this point, it seems that Thomas Brown may have a slight edge…again, at this point. Whoever is the complete package between the three ‘backs should carry most of the load.

By DrDawg

September 12, 2007 2:07 PM | Link to this

Not time? What difference does it make? When you hand a guy the ball, what difference does it make whether or not he started? Give Moreno the ball. If we had run the ball 10 more times Saturday, we would have won. I think often coaches make things too complicated to justify their jobs. Just give the kid the ball, period. A kid like Moreno needs less coaching and more carries.

By JFERG in NC

September 12, 2007 2:08 PM | Link to this

I like Knowshon’s attitude. I liked the fire I saw when he ran into the O-lineman downfield. I like how he bounces up from every tackle and runs back to the huddle! I think that ticks off the defense more than anything, letting them know that he still has plenty more! I would say a years worth of “not starting” will help him because he can come in with lower expectations and really bring a lift to the offense. This is only his first year…let’s wait to heap pressure and expectation on his young shoulders till later. For now, he’ll be our shot of adrenaline and positive attitude that our “O” needs right now. I’m pretty sure we’ll see Bobo riding momentum better from now on. That’s a lesson that you only need once. College football is all about momentum and if your O-line has it, if your young running back has it, give them the reins and let that fire and emotion flow! Hear me Bobo? Ride the tide of momentum….don’t squash it again.

GO DAWGS!

By GradyGrad96

September 12, 2007 2:13 PM | Link to this

Can we get a spell check feature for postings?

By luvthemdawgs

September 12, 2007 2:19 PM | Link to this

He seems to me like a smaller Kenny Irons. Similar running style. I think he has the potential to be like Garrison Hearst. In fact, his run in the 3rd quarter was the best I’ve seen in Sanford Stadium since Hearst was here. He’s electric and no matter what coach says, he’s gonna get more and more touches, especially in the open field.

By Chip Towers

September 12, 2007 2:22 PM | Link to this

Lost in all this talk is also Brown’s play. Bobo said he’s playing very, very well and thinks he’s on the verge of busting one, too.

By ga dog

September 12, 2007 2:29 PM | Link to this

i think jim says it best, the coaches know best for the team and who should start, if moreno knew the system better and could block better than brown he would start, not that it matters a dam#, morenos gonna get more carries, any one not agreeing with coaches, go coach your own team if you think you know better

By David

September 12, 2007 2:34 PM | Link to this

I have some doubts about Moreno, as spirit is really a good thing. But, he’s taking on some bad attitudes, like getting off of piles, kicking and pushing, and this also happens as he runs through the players back to the huddle. I think the refs are catching on now, and in the future you’re going to see some flags. Richt needs to talk to him about this.

By lawdawg

September 12, 2007 2:38 PM | Link to this

I have no problem with TB being a starter. He plays and prepares as hard as anyone I’ve seen and I’m sure the fact that he is a great leader for our young offense factors into the decision as well. Besides, tailback, at least at UGA, is not a position like QB where the starter gets 99% of the snaps. As evidenced by the numbers, Knowshon doesn’t need to start to get more carries, and I think it will continue to play out this way. TB will start because it puts one of the offensive leaders in at the beginning of the game, but Knowshon will get plenty of carries…and hopefully bust plenty of long runs and TDs.

As far as what I think of Moreno so far? Awesome. Just as we’ve been hearing, he brings high energy to the field along with a combination ankle-breaking moves and the power to run up the middle. It’s still early, but I predict he’ll be the best running back at UGA since Garrison Hearst.

By RxDawg

September 12, 2007 2:42 PM | Link to this

Yes. Hes the better player period. And this comes from a HUGE Thomas Brown fan.

By BigNCDawg

September 12, 2007 2:50 PM | Link to this

I think I recall that in 1959 Ga. lost to SC early in the season and then proceeded to win the rest of their games, including a 14-0 win over Missouri in the Orange bowl. Maybe this could happen again.

DAWGS are young and coaches are good. Execution will get better. Be patience, good things are coming our way.

By BCD

September 12, 2007 3:03 PM | Link to this

I think that starting position at TB for us is more of an honor position than anything else. I think TB is a great back and has earned the spot. I think KnoMo has earned more playing time and when MS is having a bad day it is good to know that we have two quality backs to turn to.

BCD

By 2N4YEARS

September 12, 2007 3:08 PM | Link to this

Chip, it absolutely doesn’t matter who starts and I’ll tell you why: ‘Starting’ only means that you’re the 1st tailback in the huddle. Brown’s a Senior & also a captain, a leader & a good blocker. Yes, Mereno is electrifying and is a playmaker, but he doesn’t block as well as Brown & he’s a Freshman. NFL scouts don’t care about starts, only stats. This shouldn’t be up for discussion.

By Mark

September 12, 2007 3:15 PM | Link to this

He’s looked great as far as I am concerned and I imagine that the only reason that he is not starting is he is not as reliable as Brown when it comes to pass protection and picking up the blitz.

By Palmetto State Dawg

September 12, 2007 3:17 PM | Link to this

It doesn’t matter who totes the rock when our receivers can’t catch. Teams will just stack the box, and dare Stafford to pass.

By clay

September 12, 2007 3:19 PM | Link to this

Come on Bobo or should we call you BOOBOO get your head out of your A$$. The reason we lost the game is your dumb play calling at the end of the game. Please i’m on my nees can we please do something right?

By Einstein

September 12, 2007 3:20 PM | Link to this

Someone once said, there’s more to being a good running back than just yards rushing. I believe it was a COACH, not a writer. From my theory of relativity.

By gdawginkalamazoo

September 12, 2007 3:31 PM | Link to this

Chip, I don’t know. Can we have him line up against Bill Bates once and see how that goes? Or Bill Bates Jr.

Serioulsy, looks to have the potential to be the 2nd best ever at UGA. I think it is great that he has that GATA attitude too. TB looks great too. Try both of them on the field at the same time some time.

By NYC Dawg

September 12, 2007 3:36 PM | Link to this

TB is a team leader & has shown that he has more heart than any other Dawg. He deserves to start. Knowshon is the back of the future and deserves all the hype and attention he is attracting. I guarantee he doesn’t care if he’s starting this year either as long as he gets the carries - which he is. He’s got three more years to start (if we’re lucky & he stays that long).

By AltamahaDawg

September 12, 2007 3:37 PM | Link to this

What had caught me (and I have posted a few challanges to a few folks, non of whom have responded) is the misconception , that Moreno gets pulled in favor of Brown. Feel free to correct me, but Moreno had every carry in the second half except one. (SC game) That being a chance to catch his breath, then he was right back. on the next series. So I havent understood this outrage about PT. And I thought the pretty even rotation in the first half worked out pretty well. Maybe the fact he doesnt get worn to a nub early (in only his first 2 games as a freshman) has given him a chance to shine as the game wears on.

Now if the opinion, is that we dont use a RB (him) play enough in general, thats different. I stay out of that , as I assume we have professionals evaluating the game, and the defence. I’d like to see it more, but thats prabably just wishing we could. Plus its been 2 games. We barely have stats yet, much less trends. The O-line might also be just a little part of that equation. Not to mention the whole debate on rush-vs-pass is about a 30 yr old issue, not likely to ever end.

As far as who “starts”, come on! How is that an issue or a problem? This blog have been eat up with talk of leadership, or lack of, and we really think starting a senior (who has done about as well as I can remember), while giving his freshman counterpart the bulk of the carries is something that really needs to be addressed? Hey TB, KM, arent the first fellows to play football for UGA and years from now they will be a memory. There is such a thing of pecking order and and experience, and “ready” and how thing are done. Seems like he will be all that much more appreciative when he finally does get that (symbolic only) starter role. I dont think anyone has questioned the eventuality. Untill then, how can anyone argue the RB situation isn’t one of the few things that is going pretty well so far?

By BlueMoon

September 12, 2007 3:42 PM | Link to this

I don’t know where the HW talk is coming from but he’s no Herschel. He more closely resembles Garrison Hearst and KM will probably wind up in the top 5 rushers all time at UGA before it’s all said and done and that’s some pretty heavy company.

By gdawginkalamazoo

September 12, 2007 3:53 PM | Link to this

Altadawg, for some reason they can’t just leave well enough alone. Where is the controversy in doing that?

By reality check

September 12, 2007 3:54 PM | Link to this

It won’t matter which one starts. What does matter is Georgia abandoned the running game when it was working against South Carolina. We ran the ball 41% of the time and we were averaging better than 4 yards per carry. They weren’t stopping us, we abandoned the run and went to the pass. That’s when Stafford - and Georgia do not do well.

That was true last year and it still is. The 4 games we lost last year we ran the ball 50% of the time. The games we won we averaged 60% run.

This is not a coincidence. It happens every time we quit running the ball.

Everygody seems down in the dumps, but one of the main reasons South Carolina won is they are good this year. It wasn’t like it was a blowout. Lots of season left and I expect good things, but not if we abandon the run.

By Hunk Erdown

September 12, 2007 3:59 PM | Link to this

Who starts don’t matter to me, I love Thomas Brown, he is an inspiration and a true Dawg leader. Moreno’s stats got a bit skewed by the control game we played with him in the 4th quarter against Okie St. This week he should be able to make up for those 8-10 carries that brought his yds per carry down below what they actually should be.

The most important thing we need to do this week—-

I know that CMR doesn’t like to run up scores but this week, if we can, we should let Brown and Moreno get about 100 yds each and Stafford needs to throw for 300+. This should be an excellant opportunity for Stafford to work on hitting the receivers in stride and timing patterns. All down the field, across the middle, and long. After he gets his 300 or enough to show that he’s in control of his game, Cox needs to come in and get some live action. This is a game where we need to work on our game and not worry about the score or making the other team look bad.

I thought that the way we played the 2nd half against Okie St. was the way we ought to have done it, but I was dead wrong… If Stafford had been allowed to open things up for “his” own good, it could have made a difference with the way he played against USC. It should not always be about showing class to the other team, sometimes we need the practice. For Stafford to be the QB he is supposed to be, we have not really had an opportunity for him to destroy anyone with that arm, now is the time for him to really open it up and show what he’s got. If the game gets to be a runaway, I don’t want anyone to stay in there and get hurt unecessarily, but it will do Stafford a load of good to fianlly have himself a big, fat, stat loading game.

By BullDawg Rick

September 12, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this

Doesn’t matter if Moreno starts or not.. It matters that he gets “totes”.. He needs 20 - 22 touches a game.. 15 - 18 carries and a few swing passes in the flats.. If MS hits him in the hands UGA wins vs SC.. But hopefully the both of them have learned from that & KNOW they can execute that play in the future.. As for the Herschel comparison.. STOP!!

Moreno is a special back in his own right & will prove himself thru the seasons..

Go Dawgs!

PS.. I LOVE the way he picks himself up of the carpet & hustles back to the huddle.. He’s Charlie Hustle!!

By Heeldawg

September 12, 2007 4:12 PM | Link to this

Moreno is the best back we’ve had since Garrison Hearst. He needs to get more touches per game (I think more like 25-28), as he is on a different level than anyone else we have at the position. Moreno is the first home run threat we’ve had at RB in a decade. He changes the nature of the game, and takes a lot of pressure off of Stafford.

By Chase

September 12, 2007 4:20 PM | Link to this

I posted this on the other blog but just in case he comes in here:

gator the talker

I was never being RUDE to you so what’s your problem?

You go back and pull out obscure stats TENN w/ Cutcliff? My god how long ago was it when he was there the first time? Please!

0-2 against the Big East? If you count BC Richt’s first year (his worse and even then he won 8 games)

Fact is that in* RELEVANT RECENT HISTORY the DAWGS are 5-2 against both TENN and USC, 2-2 against LSU, 3-3 against AUB, a combined 4-0 Against ALA and ARK and 6-0 against TECH!*

Also 3 Eastern Division Titles, 2 Sec Championships, One top 3 finish, One top 5 finsih, and 2 more top 10 finishes!

By Chase

September 12, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this

Repost from other blog:

gator the talker

I was never being RUDE to you so what’s your problem?

You go back and pull out obscure stats TENN w/ Cutcliff? My god how long ago was it when he was there the first time? Please!

0-2 against the Big East? If you count BC Richt’s first year (his worse and even then he won 8 games)

Fact is that in RELEVANT RECENT HISTORY the DAWGS are 5-2 against both TENN and USC, 2-2 against LSU, 3-3 against AUB, a combined 4-0 Against ALA and ARK and 6-0 against TECH!

Also 3 Eastern Division Titles, 2 Sec Championships, One top 3 finish, One top 5 finsih, and 2 more top 10 finishes!

By ARdawg

September 12, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this

It makes no difference who starts as far as game strategy goes. Tony Brown has certainly earned the right to start. He’s an excellent TB and I’ve yet to see him miss a block. He’s a senior and a bonafide leader.

As far as game strategy goes it’s all about fresh legs. I think (thats think) you’ll see a platooned backfield all year and relatively even number of carries. Moreno is going to have plenty of starts in his UGA career. He’s a freshman and should take this opportunity to learn from the proven leader Brown. Make no mistake, I think Moreno is one of the most exciting dawgs in a long time. He’s potentially got ir “ALL”. But he doesn’t have it yet.

Starting is more of an honor than a strategy and Brown has earned it hands down. Moreno has had some great carries and is a dazzler bound for greatness but geeze, give him some time to earn the honor.

By Michael

September 12, 2007 4:33 PM | Link to this

Moreno should get the majority of the touches because he’s making the plays right now. If starting him is the only way that will happen then YES start him. I’d like to see more sets with him & Brown on the field at the same time. My only concern with Moreno is on a couple big plays against SC I thought he was going to score but got caught. To me once King is ready we’re going to have a great one two punch at TB since both backs have the speed to be able to take it to the house. When Lumpkin comes back he & Moreno could form a Thunder & lighting type of duo.

By gdawginkalamazoo

September 12, 2007 4:42 PM | Link to this

Hunk Erdown, thank you for those tow paragraphs below “What we need to do this week” heading. Wish somebody could give that to coach. Florida has done that the first two weeks and Tebow is the it QB now. Heck Tech did it with their run game this past week and they are the galloping bees. If we don’t do that I will be extremely disappointed. Doing these things in practice versus real game speed is totally different. Don’t be afraid to score coach. Don’t be afraid to let your kids get some numbers added to their stats. Makes everybody feel good and gain confidence which we really really need right now. No matter who we are playing.

By Luke

September 12, 2007 4:45 PM | Link to this

Georgia’s coaching staff is just stupid.

Knowshon’s not ready. That doesn’t even make sense because the numbers don’t lie.

Mark Richt is too bent on seniority, see Joe Tereshinski. You have to play the best players not the players who have been there the longest.

By Cuz

September 12, 2007 4:45 PM | Link to this

If you Knowshon like I Knowshon, oh what a back.

Sorry vaudeville routines sometimes run through my mind.

I say he is more of a Rodney Hampton, slashing and turning for that extra yard, then up and ready to go again.

I agree with reality. Because of my pyschotherapy treatments with Nurse Cratchett, Wednesday is the day I agree with reality. Buck, putting you down for Tuesday, Nascar, we will agree to agree on Sundays and Alt we will agree to disagree whenever we feel like it.

Give the kids the ball. Run it straight at them. Then hit em with the passing game. We have two dynamite young men who want to run the ball. For God’s sake let them.

Just my opinion. I do not get paid to prepare the gameplan.

By Big Dawg

September 12, 2007 4:50 PM | Link to this

Tony Ball is just dead wrong and anyone who is being objective would realize that Knowshon Moreno gives us the best chance to win. Ball is so infatuated with Thomas Brown he can’t see the forest for the trees. Thomas Brown is a good back to bring in as a change up but he doesn’t make good decisions on the field as he won’t deviate from the play called. He doesn’t break many tackles nor does he make the other players miss and this is something Moreno does. I will say Thomas Brown is a very good to great kick off return man though.

Go Dawgs

By Full House Backfield

September 12, 2007 5:02 PM | Link to this

I still say load the backfield with Brown, Moreno, and Southerland all together and Stafford will have more time to make his reads and complete his passes plus feed the balll to any of the three for postive yards. It seamed stafford was locking eyes on his intended receiver too much last week and not having time to make all his reads as the tight end was wide open several time, twice for a sure score. Go dawgs

By austindog

September 12, 2007 5:05 PM | Link to this

The fact that Brown is a senior leader should not factor into why he gets to start. It should be fought for on the field and at practice. Put the best player out there. Otherwise you undermine an underclassmen’s incentive to battle every day in practice and take the edge off a senior’s competetiveness to keep his position. There’s no tenure in football.

By austindog

September 12, 2007 5:12 PM | Link to this

Chip wrote: “Lost in all this talk is also Brown’s play. Bobo said he’s playing very, very well and thinks he’s on the verge of busting one, too.”

On the verge? One of these days, get ready! Moreno HAS busted one, we’ve seen him do it. Keep him in there.

By NASCARfan

September 12, 2007 5:15 PM | Link to this

I’ve never bought into the myth of seniority. That’s basically the same reason why we suffered through Joe T III last year.

If he’s better, and in games, he’s far and away the better tailback, then he should start.

Starting does matter, and in this I have to split with Altamaha, although I agree on many things with him (and disagree, too). Starting means you’re seen as the better player by your coaches. I’m sorry guys, but the players know that Moreno simply is better. Brown is a testement to will power and his story is great. But he’s simply not in the same league.

Chip, I hope you read my response about the Eason thing… it’s more along the lines of me actually being sick and tired of Richt blaming the players for six straight years. Once in awhile, I’d love for him to say, “Well, my coaches just have to do a better job, and I’m going to see that they do.” Blaming the players for six straight years for underperforming is illogical and just doesn’t cut it anymore. I think it would be a good thing is coaches know that their jobs aren’t set in stone, although we all know Richt will never fire an underperforming coach.

Also, we’ve been waiting on Brown to break a long run for years. He’s great on kick-offs when he has blocking in front of him, but for some reason, when you hand the ball off to him, he’s more than likely to go down to an arm tackle after two yards instead of busting a 40 yard run. Moreno simply has better vision and quicker reactions.

By Jason

September 12, 2007 5:15 PM | Link to this

I say it really doesn’t matter who starts both TB and Knowshon are playing great football. I’d like to see the Defense play with as much enthusiasm as Knowshon brings to the game.The guy brings that everytime he touches the ball and as a fan that gets me pumped. Bobo needs to remember that when we really need to score, realize what our runnig backs can do. GO DAWGS!!!!

By Cameron

September 12, 2007 5:22 PM | Link to this

He’s not ready means, he is still lacking the pass protection skills to be an every down back or the starter. He will develop those skills in a matter of time. And no, it doesn’t really matter who starts as long as the hot hand get the ball enough. As long as the running game is effective and not forgotten in meaningful times, it is fine. What people don’t realize is that Caleb King is faster than Moreno (when fully healthy) and has the same elusiveness and power. Those two, plus Stafford, improved receving corps (plus AJ Green) are going to be fun to watch next year (not to mention a more experienced offensive line).

By Hunk Erdown

September 12, 2007 5:31 PM | Link to this

I trust Tony Ball with what he sees and the decisions he makes. He didn’t say that T Brown is starting because he’s a senior, he said Moreno is not starting because he is not ready, yet. I don’t know what it is that he see’s, maybe it’s blocking, maybe he’s not holding on to the ball well enough in practice, or what… I just don’t know. Moreno sure looks great when he’s in there. Again, to me, it’s a non issue as long as Moreno is getting the touches that he is getting. It sure is a good problem to have though, huh? Hell, I’d like to see Brannon Southerland get the ball more, too.

I don’t think anyone can stop us with Southerland or Brown leading Moreno on a toss sweep. The big thing I think Moreno will bring to the table is breakaway runs for long TDs. Brown and Lumpy have done great at breaknig off big clips from time to time, but I can see Moreno taking it to the house. The idea of a power I or full house with all three of them sounds damn good to me. I just hope they can stay healthy.

Chappas even looks good for resting Southerland, he’s hustling his a$$ off on special teams. Against Okie St. he went down on a kick off, got knocked down and still got back up and made a tackle from behind.

By Dark Corner Dawg

September 12, 2007 5:40 PM | Link to this

Well WEll Well, I’m glad to see that we as dog fans are getting past THAT game . Ive been away for a couple of days and been catching it from the chickens and also from those Clemson Tigers oh well. I live up here in Northern Greenville County SC AKA Dark Corner. So its good to be here and comment on the Dawgs. Full House I agree Lets put Brown, Moreno, Southerland in the backfield and we might as well let the KING play . Mix it up a little ! I know Stafford will be ok for us. I cant wait to play the Tide GO DAWGS!!!

By Charles W. Spraggins

September 12, 2007 5:47 PM | Link to this

Moreno should be starting until he proves hes not ready.

By Dark Corner Dawg

September 12, 2007 5:47 PM | Link to this

Nascar I agree if the young pups can play and have the intensity and enthiusiasm playem . If a JR or Senior aint cutting it they sit on the bench. Clemson has done it with there tandem and there are to be reckoned with so there is no reason ole UGA cant do the same! Let them tote the ROCK!

By DawgMan

September 12, 2007 5:49 PM | Link to this

Start Moreno, bench Bobo—-he doesn’t have a clue about offensive play calling or QB play. Richt needs to get it together and stop losing to these mediocre teams like Kentucky and South Carolina—-which is embarrassing.

By Dark Corner Dawg

September 12, 2007 5:53 PM | Link to this

Yes Even Danny Ware saw the writting on the WALL!

By AltamahaDawg

September 12, 2007 5:54 PM | Link to this

So big dawg, one touch in the entire second half is just way too much for Brown?

What am I missing here Luke, Moreno gets more carries than anyione so far, more so than most have relatively in years, as a true freshman but we arent using him, because why, blind loyalty to seniority? Come again? ? Johnson is also a senior RB and I do not believe he is geting a single carry. How many underclassmen beating out more seniorority for PT in Coach Richts years do you need me to go list? I’m sure it would be a piece of cake to compile. Start with left tackle. By that standard, Blake Barnes was the obvious choice for replacement when JoeT got hurt last year, not a true freshman. So much for that very silly theory.

RC, I am reminded that somebody said “maybe we ran in those victories so well , because we COULD run so well in those victory”. Dont misunderstand, I am not debating you that running more is good or bad. I’m just saying, that stat might be more of a byproduct than a solution. Running it 60% of the time seems to me that those were games in which we had control. Not sure attempting 60% runs insures the outcome.

I could also prabably dig and find in those losses, we had (drops, fumbles, etc). Kinda like Richt is 6-o with no turnover. I’m sure there were very interesting defensive stats in those victories/losses, that might have been more critical. We could have also easily won with 41% run sat.nite, for just one or two more pass comepletions. I would also bet if Stafford had hit those deep pass scores early, we might very well have started running it 60% of the time.

By Dark Corner Dawg

September 12, 2007 5:57 PM | Link to this

opps Their not there, sorry dawg fans I need to brush up and proof read!

By Hunk Erdown

September 12, 2007 6:10 PM | Link to this

Sorry NascarFan, but seniority is not a myth when it comes to leadership and in “most” cases dependability. Sure, sometimes talent and ability are so lopsided between the young-un and the more senior that it becomes a tough call, and that “may” end up being the case between Brown and Moreno. I don’t know how much experience you have in being part of a team, but I have been there from mighty mites to commandos and to call seniority a myth on a team is just off base. It is rare that a team doesn’t need leadership from the tried and true. In the specific case of Moreno and Brown, it would be my hope that they can both be involved in the offense so that we get the benefit of both of them’s different talents. There will be some teams we face where Brown’s running style will be a better suit than Moreno’s and vice versa. The example of JoeT3 seems to be one that a lot of people use as if Stafford stepped in and set the woods on fire last year. Stafford definately had more talent, but his lack of seniority could very well be the resaon he faltered so bad. I know I won’t convice you, thats cool we’re still buds. I’d like to be able to talk to you one on one, and tell you some things about seniority and how valuable it was in conflict situations. It would raise the hair on your neck.

By AltamahaDawg

September 12, 2007 6:22 PM | Link to this

I’ve heard the coaches say so many times that even they don’t know the extent of mistake that were made till they break it down, so in all due respect to you fellas football knowledge, its quite clear YOU DO NOT know the entire picture. You have no idea what he might still be doing wrong. You keep arguing apples and oranges. You say what he does right because you see it, nobody disagrees. You are absolutely ignoring that a position coach knows what he is still doing wrong. PLUS it seems clear that what they call “starter” is not what you think it is anyway. Whatever the criteria is, Brown fit it better for 2 games at least. That you simply cannot disagree since they defined what starter means, not you. So who they pick for thier own criteria is by definition, the correct choice. You are going to argue with folks who run their show what they should think thier definition of starter is? really?

Not the “starter” before his third game, good grief! Again, if you really think that Moreno NOT being called starter (and the most vocal of you actually wanted that before he had taken a college snap) is the biggest issue on this team right now, well that pretty optimistic I guess.

By Hunk Erdown

September 12, 2007 6:33 PM | Link to this

CMR believes in giving the senior people a full shot, but as Altahama pointed out, his track record is to play the guy that can git-r-done. There are a lot of you that are very critical of CMR, Ball, Bobo, etc. on their decisions and abilities as coaches, and I just don’t get where you think you know more than they do? If we only win 8 games this year that will be 70 wins in 7 years for this team of coaches that don’t know as much as the fans. I’m not talking about critiquing a few plays, I’m talking about comments that are cut throat and demeaning. You just don’t realize it but it makes you look like you are a few french fries short of a happy meal. What good will it do? Do you think that the majority of knowledgable fans will even respect that stuff? You know that it won’t mean a hill of beans to anyone that makes a difference. You think CMR sneaks on here late at night to cop a few ideas? I have even said that I think Eason needs help at best and to retire at worst, but I’m not gonna question the man’s motives or intentions. CMR gets the job done, he gets it done with integrity, and we are always close to having a special year, but to have that kind of year takes a lot of luck, a lack of key injuries, and yes senior leadership among many other things. As long as CMR keeps us in “the hunt” he’ll have my full support.

By Dark Corner Dawg

September 12, 2007 6:47 PM | Link to this

Hunk….. you and nascar are both correct and it also depends on just pure talent. Yes seniorty and experience does matter in some cases including life experieces outside of football. Talent and execution matters in some casesas well. Hunk I was reading some of the earlier post and I believe you were disagreeing with a blogger about youth and again I think both of YOU had correct points.Just because Stafford had a bad game is that one could conclude because of his lack of seniority but just the simple fact of execution and also the execution of others as well.

By Wozzo the Wonder Dog

September 12, 2007 6:59 PM | Link to this

Interview Caleb King and get his opinion.

Run the Wishbone.

By Dark Corner Dawg

September 12, 2007 7:14 PM | Link to this

Vince Dooley contemplated on starting a freshman running back a few years ago. This back he recruited wasnt really impressive in practices. Dooley thought that what he had was a big stiff Fullback. Dooley went ahead and started the youngster despite 2nd guessing himself and so the rest is history. Now Im not saying that we have another Herschel but what I’m pointing out that you really dont know what you got in that present untill you open it!

By TennDawg

September 12, 2007 7:20 PM | Link to this

Chip, please read this a possible blog topic I don’t want to hijack this blog, but I have something that’s really been bothering me since Saturday. I don’t know if it was this bad all over campus, or just on north campus, but the open container tickets being handed out were insane. I tailgate at the Pike house on Lumpkin, and there were cops stationed everywhere doing nothing, but waiting on someone to step off the property and onto the sidewalk. They said you can drink in any parking lot or on any property you want to, but you can’t cross the street or walk on the sidewalk. I personally watched at least 50 people get a ticket for this. If Adams is trying to find another way to p** people off, then he has found it. I know a lot of alumni were not happy about getting a ticket for something they have always done, especially since there was no warning. If we can get enough people to chime in on this, maybe we can save some of the game day traditions that we still have.

By A-ville Ranger

September 12, 2007 7:21 PM | Link to this

It doesn’t matter who starts.Moreno should and will be the featured back….Shane —I count at least 5 drops against SC.The thing is they were the CRITICAL ones.This is a mental thing,I can only guess what screws these receivers heads up but there’s no doubt in my mind it’s real and it’a a problem.Those drops went 2 by Chandler——2 by Moore—1 by Bailey,I’m sure I’m missing at least 1 more but it’s not coming to me.

By Renegade

September 12, 2007 7:26 PM | Link to this

Dark Corner Dawg, you are wrong. Walker did not start his first game.

By Upstate SC

September 12, 2007 7:36 PM | Link to this

Dark Corner Dawg, I know exactly what you mean. I live in Easley and work in Greer and have also been catching flack and eating crow since Monday. Moreno’s enthusiastic play is refreshing to see instead of the floundering walk back to the huddle. Other players need to take notes from him and follow his lead. Coach Ball knows who is the best, he is just keeping him under wraps for a little while. Barring injury, Moreno will set a ton of rushing records before he leaves that beautiful campus for the pros.

By Dark Corner Dawg

September 12, 2007 7:37 PM | Link to this

renegade …you are correct.Walker technically didnt start but he did play in the first game at Tenn.

By A-ville Ranger

September 12, 2007 7:47 PM | Link to this

consider this——3 of the dropped passes saturday would have likely produced tds.We scored 0 tds and lost by 4. The fact is, out of the 44 thrown ALL of the most critical ones were dropped.It may not not be nice to point out but it’s damn sure the truth.

By ga dog

September 12, 2007 7:49 PM | Link to this

i read where someone said ball was a idiot, i challenge all you guys who question coaches decisions, you have never played the game, its obvious, your are wasting my time, switch teams like a fair weather fan you are, get on the bama bandwagon

By Dark Corner Dawg

September 12, 2007 7:49 PM | Link to this

Upstate SC….. I feel your pain. But WEll bounce back we played lousy and had opportunities to win and we put it to OSU. We will have to wait and see which team will show up!

By A-ville Ranger

September 12, 2007 7:59 PM | Link to this

ga dog —- Come on Rambo get off the soap box.I can’t think of many guys I grew up with that hasn’t played at some level.I’m sure that’s true of most on this blog too.The guy who questions the most of my home town buds was all SEC at UGA.The only real difference in his opinion is we all listen to him.

By Dark Corner Dawg

September 12, 2007 8:00 PM | Link to this

Hey ga dog…. its ok sometimes for fans to question coaches decisions. And yes some will resort to name calling but they are just a little frustrated and good dose of winning will surely help them.We all are passionate about our team. Go you Silver Britches !!!!

By Denver Dog

September 12, 2007 8:05 PM | Link to this

Go Dawgs, just remember one thing no other team can say. UGA may not win, but we are never losers. That my dear friends is the essential attitude! Think about it, one set of colors, one fight song, one mascot. We are just plain and simple UGA. The rest are just pretenders.

By Nick

September 12, 2007 8:07 PM | Link to this

I want to see him play more for sure. He’s a very exciting player and I think we haven’t even seen a fraction of it yet. Like all excited freshmen I worry about him protecting the ball so I hope he’s conscious of that. How will he stack up in GA history? Geez, let the guy get a year or two in first beofore comparing him to those guys. Someone on the TV compared him to Herschel. What was he on? Nothing about him reminded me of Herschel. Size, speed, shiftiness. Nothing. But I think he’ll be a good one. A Herschel he ain’t though!

By Cuz

September 12, 2007 8:12 PM | Link to this

Dark, since I am old and was at UGA before, during and after HW, he was the third string back going into the Tenn game. VD had nothing to lose and everything to gain as we were going to lose that game before Herschel came in, I am not positive because I watched it on a Munson car radio, but I think it was the end of the second quarter when Herschel, everybody say Amen, got the ball.

By Cuz

September 12, 2007 8:20 PM | Link to this

Knowshon, I went to college with Herschel, I drove him to the stadium on game day. I dissected plays with him occasionaly when we would meet at the bus stop or on my bus. I know Herschel Walker. You sir are Knowshon.

All kidding aside, uh, I did know Herschel, Knowshon does not need to be compared to anyone but himself. Go you Knowshon Moreno

By Cuz

September 12, 2007 8:24 PM | Link to this

Sorry Alt, you are just not cantankerous enough for this blog. Have you started hugging the live oaks? Put down the smores and tick some people off. I am scared you are going to post the words to Kumbayah. Have a drink, on me. I will pay up JAX weekend.

By Dark Corner Dawg

September 12, 2007 8:29 PM | Link to this

Cuz you are correct Herschel wasnt even gonna playin the first game. i mispoke on my comment earlier inwhich renegade brought it to my attention. I should have said that Vince contemplated on PLAYING Herschel and Vince did admit on having 2nd thoughts on PLaying him. Bill Bates of Tenn. still has a headache after all these years !

By Cuz

September 12, 2007 8:40 PM | Link to this

Dark, Bill Bates still has the footprints on his chest. Don’t ask him to take off his shirt. It is scary.

By Cuz

September 12, 2007 8:54 PM | Link to this

Since I am going to be in Minnessotta the next two weeks I may go see the mighty Golden Gophers take on the Perdue Boilermakers at the Metrodome. I wonder if there is enough alcohol to make this game interesting.

By Dark Corner Dawg

September 12, 2007 8:59 PM | Link to this

Hey Bill King why dont you go ahead and suit up then we could have two kings!!!!!

By AltamahaDawg

September 12, 2007 8:59 PM | Link to this

dark corner…great story, now what does that have to do with Moreno who got played and played and played right from the start. Its really not a mater of reluctance to play the kid. Are we all watching the same team? You do understand he got every carry except one, in the second half of the SEC opener, of his freshman year?

I actually would bet that so far (as if 2 games is some measure), that the percentage of times Moreno has carried the ball relative to the other backs, is right there with any back in this conference.

By AltamahaDawg

September 12, 2007 9:03 PM | Link to this

Cuz F off and go to He77! Well, that is, if its alright with you, of cource.

By Barbara Dooolies

September 12, 2007 9:05 PM | Link to this

Hi Dawg Fans …Just to let you know I will be at the UGA bookstore this Sat. giving makeover tips for the football team prior to the game.Vinny will be there signing my new book “Get Me Outta Here,Coach” See YA There! … Barb

By Barbara Dooolies

September 12, 2007 9:15 PM | Link to this

Altamaha … I dont recall ever saying it was a matter of reluctance of playing him. I was trying to covey or point out is to playem. I dont really care who technically starts Hell ,do it by committee if it will help the dawgs win! If Joe Blow is up to the challenge play him.

By AltamahaDawg

September 12, 2007 9:16 PM | Link to this

Dark Corner, dont bother Bill King, he is busy putting together a brand new topic for his blog. Something cutting edge like should Moreno start.

By SamoanDawg

September 12, 2007 9:17 PM | Link to this

T. Brown starts. K. Moreno will get plenty of candies from here on out. It’s good to have somebody different with fire/energy Moreno has. Hell, it pumps me up watching the guy sprint back to the huddle. It should be contagious enough it should affect our WRs to run routes and catch the ball with some fire in their azz. If I was the o-line, I would love to block for this kid.

Start Brown but Moreno should get plenty of touches. I like to see what he can do with returning kicks too. Brown is doing a superb job returning, but I’ll leave it out ‘till next season.

By AltamahaDawg

September 12, 2007 9:25 PM | Link to this

Cuz, remember when you told me you wanted to try wearing a Texas shirt into Henry Hudson’s pub. I said if the had the balls to go for it. ixna

By Dark Corner Dawg

September 12, 2007 9:28 PM | Link to this

Altamaha … I dont recall ever saying it was a matter of reluctance of playing him. I was trying to covey or point out is to playem. I dont really care who technically starts Hell ,do it by committee if it will help the dawgs win! If Joe Blow is up to the challenge play him.

By AltamahaDawg

September 12, 2007 9:31 PM | Link to this

Thanks Barbara

By AltamahaDawg

September 12, 2007 9:36 PM | Link to this

DCD, you will never believe this but somebody named Barbara said that exact same thing.

agreed, seemed liked the point was, we should just let him in the game to see what he can do like HW. anyway, yes play him.

By TybeeDawg

September 12, 2007 9:38 PM | Link to this

I like the idea of having Moreno and Brown in at the same time…ala Cadillac and Ronnie Brown…that’s intriguing.

By Dark Corner Dawg

September 12, 2007 9:40 PM | Link to this

she said your welcome

By 5th year senior

September 12, 2007 9:42 PM | Link to this

they need to quit recruiting tailbacks so hard and go after o-linemen and badass linebackers/d-linemen

By Cuz

September 12, 2007 9:42 PM | Link to this

Alt, after 60 stiches later, I found out those dang Okies don’t have a sense of humor. Geez and I thought my hernia surgery was painful. Be this as it may, good response to my calling you out, you low down varmit. Keep it up, you help fire me up. The CW channel may be desperate enough to give us our own the “New Odd Couple Show”. Gotta be set in the Golden Isles though.

By Dark Corner Dawg

September 12, 2007 9:43 PM | Link to this

what happened to Cuz did his wife get p** for blogging too long?

By Cuz

September 12, 2007 9:44 PM | Link to this

Dark, what kinda covey, dem Quail aint to brave.

By Dark Corner Dawg

September 12, 2007 9:49 PM | Link to this

dem convey?

By Dark Corner Dawg

September 12, 2007 9:51 PM | Link to this

Cuz I bees White

By randy

September 12, 2007 9:52 PM | Link to this

From looking at last weeks game I would say Moreno is a showboat. I think I would win a game or two before I got up thumping my chest and “chest bumping” my teammates. Act like you’ve been there before and you might get a little more respect. I don’t ever recall Herschel Walker acting like that. (Just an observation from a Gator fan)

By Dark Corner Dawg

September 12, 2007 9:53 PM | Link to this

Cuz Aint no yeller jacket either!

By AltamahaDawg

September 12, 2007 9:58 PM | Link to this

It took me about 5 minutes to figure out what they meant “outside of his body” followed 10 minutes of walking around crouched over saying “oweoweoweowe”, when I figured it out.

By Dark Corner Dawg

September 12, 2007 10:01 PM | Link to this

OK Randy you gator fans said the same thing about Pollack. Now go back to your swamp .

By Cuz

September 12, 2007 10:03 PM | Link to this

Dark, after reading my comments, do you actually think a woman would put up with me?

The word is covey, covey of quail, pride of lions, mess of chickens, pack of dawgs, you get the drift.

Oh and I am a single father, had to put my last child to bed. She has surgery next week, I try to just make her feel comfortable. Eleven years old, 10 surgeries. Go figure. Just an explanation, not an insult or derogatory comment.

By Cuz

September 12, 2007 10:06 PM | Link to this

Yeah Alt, hurt me just reading about it. And folks say we are rabid fans. Jimminy Dammm Cricket.

By A-ville Ranger

September 12, 2007 10:07 PM | Link to this

I’ve noticed some wagon circling by the team today.That’s good I guess,anything to get ready for the rest of the season.There is a touch of biting the feeding hand but who cares as long as it helps ? I think it’s silly to expect fans to say only positive things and shake pompons but I was very surprised to hear the booing at the stadium saturday.I’ve never booed my team or anybody elses for that matter.I just want the team to come out every week prepared,fired up and show some smarts and concentration.——Many times a player looks great till the clock starts and they don’t live up to the hype.Thank goodness it looks like Moreno isn’t one of them.He looks exactly like he did in those videos I watched of him in high school, that’s a very good thing.

By AltamahaDawg

September 12, 2007 10:08 PM | Link to this

OMG, if Tebow doesn’t do an irish jig any time he gets a yard…….

I’m not too big on the chest thumping, I dont really recall him doing anything that I thought was showboating. Of cource he is my guy, so I look at it differently than I would your guy. I dont think he is really trying to gain respect as a veteran at this point. I think he is a very young enthusiastic first year player showing his excitment and not apologizing for it. I thought the way he runs back to the huddle was a great signature.

By Cuz

September 12, 2007 10:09 PM | Link to this

Dark, in the words of Louie, Louie by Rod Stewart, “It don’ matter if you’re black or white, long as you know what I mean.”

By Dark Corner Dawg

September 12, 2007 10:11 PM | Link to this

Cuz …I wish her the best and you as well.

By Cuz

September 12, 2007 10:11 PM |