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AJC > Sports > UGA > Blog > Archives > 2007 > May > 14 > Entry
Fine line for men coaching women
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Well, it has been an eventful morning as I’m sure you all could imagine. Today was the day UGA released the report on the investigation of women’s golf coach Todd McCorkle. It started with me arriving at the office of public affairs early this morning and has continued since I first received the 57-page, mostly handwritten report.
Regardless of what some people might think, we media types don’t delight in this type of work. At least for me personally, it’s completely opposite. Lives are affected, sometimes they are ruined and, as anybody who holds a job can attests, it’s always sad whenever somebody loses one.
That said, obviously UGA thoroughly investigated the complaints of a few players and parents associated with Georgia’s highly successful women’s and it found too much evidence to ignore what was going on. As was detailed in the stories I’ve posted today, McCorkle resigned of his own volition. The recommendation of the office of legal affairs was for him to be suspended with a month’s pay and to attend anti-discrimination and anti-harassment classes. Of course, you know and I know that McCorkle’s ability to coach and recruit would have been effectively ruined under that scenario.
I talked to Damon Evans this afternoon — and you will hear from him in subsequent stories I file today and tomorrow — about the problems that sometimes face male coaches of female student-athletes. In a nutshell, Damon said whether a coach is male or female should be immaterial and pointed to the fantastically successful careers of women’s basketball coach Andy Landers, women’s swim coach Jack Bauerle and women’s tennis coach Jeff Wallace. There are simply professional standards that must always be upheld and certain subjects that should never be discussed under any circumstances.
So now it’s your turn. I’ve basically unveiled all the sordid accusations that were detailed in the report. Do you believe McCorkle was right in resigning? Do you believe UGA is wrong in retaining his employ, at least for the moment? Is all this the result of what is a PC modern society and have we become hypersensitive to such issues?
I’ll leave it to our columnists to tell you what they think. Tell me what you think.
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By Mike Bobo 17 INT
May 14, 2007 4:27 PM | Link to this
What else is new at UGA…the entire athletic program is in the tank and out of control. I recommend all season ticket holders for football go ahead and place them on Craigs List.
Florida continues to expand and dominated in every aspect of athletics and academics and UGA continues to do down the tubes.
Take a page from Jeremy Foley and get your program on track. You can whine about other programs such as GT and UF, but there are not reporting these sort of problems.
By Jeff
May 14, 2007 4:29 PM | Link to this
I would like to know exactly what he brought up to these ladies. I really don’t mean this personally Chip, but I’ve come to distrust reporters in general when it comes to cases like this (and Duke Lacrosse didn’t help matters any). At the same time, his resigning doesn’t look good on him either.
By honest_abe
May 14, 2007 4:31 PM | Link to this
from what i’ve read and that isn’t much. it seems like coach mccorkle crossed a very fine line into the realm of sexual harrassment.
whether or not a comment is appropriate is simple. imagine if he were directing those kinds of statements at your daughter or younger sister etc. i know i would’ve been uncomfortable with his words and actions around my younger sister .. i think he made the right decision to step down before things got uglier.
By Roswell Ed
May 14, 2007 4:33 PM | Link to this
Matthew, hold me closer please- Joe
By Roswell Ed
May 14, 2007 4:47 PM | Link to this
Joe, stop hogging the covers. My feet are cold- Matthew
By Tell it like it is
May 14, 2007 4:47 PM | Link to this
I bet the comments were not soley from him. Why do girls always get off so easy? He gets the noose for his comments. The girls get the warm shoulder.
By Chip Towers
May 14, 2007 4:49 PM | Link to this
Jeff, there is no reason for you to distrust reporters, even in the Duke lacrosse case. We’re simply reporting what is being investigated and alleged. There IS reason for you to distrust government and state entities. It’s what our country was founded on.
By gdawginkalamazoo
May 14, 2007 4:53 PM | Link to this
Hypersensitive to all this? Not in today’s society. Somebody on another blog posted the possibility that McCorkle may have ended up on a Dateline with Chris Hanson. Crazy world we live in and you can’t be too careful. He should have been fired if all of the stuff posted today is true. Of course resigning with all of this made public will hurt him enough for future employment in coaching. If he ever matures enough to have a daughter of his own maybe he will have an understanding of his behavior and why it isn’t “cool”. UGA shouldn’t have offered continued employment. Would you be allowed to keep your job at the AJC if you went around acting like that?
One question though, Do we get to hear what his wife has to say to him? I think she might be taking some extra swing practice with a 3 iron.
By gdawginkalamazoo
May 14, 2007 4:56 PM | Link to this
First off is Mike “Jethro Tull” Bobo wasting the space again. Aqualung 17.
By Coach Bobby
May 14, 2007 5:28 PM | Link to this
McCorkle is a fool and should know better. Today’s society will not tolerate that kind of behavior. What I want to know is how does Georgia Tech get away with holding “tickle piles” where students,alumni and student athletes all enthusiastically participate.
By Win
May 14, 2007 5:40 PM | Link to this
Art Leon last week in response to McCorkle’s resignation:
“I’m shocked, surprised, just flabbergasted,” said Art Leon, father of the Bulldogs’ star player Taylor Leon. “Todd’s a great coach. I just saw him at SECs and everybody was happy and jubilant.”
Art Leon toaday:
“I stood up for what is right,” said Leon, whose daughter is the Bulldogs’ top player. “I’m the person that initiated it. He doesn’t need to be a coach of women’s golf anywhere. He got what he deserved.”
Sleaze alert!!!
By UGA @$$ Holes REDNECKS
May 14, 2007 5:40 PM | Link to this
The U GAYS A is now thug row. I will sell my tickets Dawg.
By Matt
May 14, 2007 5:43 PM | Link to this
“What else is new at UGA…the entire athletic program is in the tank and out of control.”
Hey AJC, give this guy a job. He said in one sentence what it takes you guys an entire off season to say.
By Jeff
May 14, 2007 5:46 PM | Link to this
Chip:
I’ve seen too many lives ruined because reporters print stories of alleged crimes (particualrly those of a sexual nature) long before they are proven in a court of law. Even if the truth is eventually found and printed, the damage has LONG been done. And Duke Lacrosse is a PERFECT example of this. In 15 years do you honestly think that anyone will remember that those boys (and, through extension, their coach) were INNOCENT all along? Probably not. People WILL remember that they were accused, and since they remember that they were accused, the automatic assumption will be that they are guilty.
So, on topic, I want to know specifics. If it is going to court, I will await the jury’s decision, and I think reporters should do the same before ANYTHING about it is printed. (Too late in this case, but in general…) We, the public, do NOT need to know when someone is ACCUSED of a crime. We only need to know when the person is PROVEN GUILTY.
By Pitbull
May 14, 2007 5:53 PM | Link to this
Todd McCorkle needed to resign if the AJC was indeed accurate in the things that it reported him saying and doing around his players.
He should not have been retained as an UGAAA employee at all and hopefully he will soon be seperated from employment.
UGA is too good of a university to let this type of person remain connected with it in any way.
By gtforever
May 14, 2007 6:02 PM | Link to this
Wow, what a surprise! Another UGA sports figure showing their true colors….. I can’t imagine why anyone would go to THUG University
By dogs fan
May 14, 2007 6:15 PM | Link to this
What prudish nonsense. This is a college team and I haven’t read anything that he has done that is immoral. If the girls were offended by any of this they are in for a rude awakening when they experience “real life”!
By Richard Jewell
May 14, 2007 6:25 PM | Link to this
Yes, of course we should all trust reporters.
By tyger
May 14, 2007 6:33 PM | Link to this
Its an ethical issue that should be taken within the context of the specific facts, of which, the article gives none.
However, teachers have a duty to protect their students, even in college, not injure them. And male teachers have to take extra precaution to ensure against the “appearance” of chicanery.
I’m sorry for the Coach, but it sounds like he may have lost his way and the wolf cant tend to the sheep.
By Hunk Erdown
May 14, 2007 6:36 PM | Link to this
If the coach said/did the things he was accused of he should be fired.
I would be very careful wanting my daughter to join the LPGA tour too early. It is my understanding that several women on the tour are being investigated for operating without a lickher license.
By JN
May 14, 2007 6:52 PM | Link to this
What a DA!!! This guy should know better than to put himself in this position. As much as I would like my son to play for Coach MR because of his leadership values this is just as disturbing in the opposite way. Hopefully UGA will get a coach with vaules and creditabilty so we can continue to be leader in this sport.
By RxDawg
May 14, 2007 6:58 PM | Link to this
What a shame. I wish this could of been handled in a more private way. If the girls were really uncomfortable w/ some of his comments they should of talked about it w/ school officials and the coach. The coach said he had no intention of making them feel violated or harrased at all. They are walking breathing adults but yet they went to daddy. Rather now what we have is an umemployed family and a man’s image forever tainted. Was this punishment really justified? Were the girls living in pure terror? Or were they just cuting up with the coach? I dont know…but I have a feeling this might of goten carried away.
By Marietta Dawg
May 14, 2007 7:25 PM | Link to this
I was joking earlier about McCorkle being on Dateline. If he really was, then UGA would be in some hot water. I have full respect for Evans and the Athletic Department for not hiding these issues and taking action. It’s better than having the NCAA investigate us and put on probation.
By Fan
May 14, 2007 7:30 PM | Link to this
What ever happened to innocent until prove guilty? I realize that the AJC published what they received as public record of the investigation from UGA. Has anyone sat down with Coach McCorkle and gotten his side of the story? Some of you are quick to judge without hearing both sides. I personally feel that the we should hold our judgement and blame until we hear from the coach himself.
I find that the AJC seems to be biased against UGA. I know for a FACT that other universities have had bigger “scandals” than UGA. It seems to me that the AJC turns a blind eye to it. I don’t call that fair reporting and I think it’s a downright shame.
By Matthew at the SLC
May 14, 2007 7:37 PM | Link to this
So What? These girls are of legal age. They are not little girls anymore. They are women and they will be exposed to men like that in any workplace. Whenever a woman screams sexual harassment, it slows the progress of all women. Men will always be in power in the workplace it puts them in a bad situation around others. I’m those girls would not have had a problem if the coach was a bulldike and said the same things.
By comp133xi7y
May 14, 2007 7:49 PM | Link to this
College professors and coaches are in positions of authority over their students. Students may be over the legal age, but these figures still operate in loco parentis in many ways. It is appalling that any professor or coach would ever talk to his students in this kind of manner.
It is equally appaling that so many people seem to think that it’s OK for him to do so because “women are too sensetive” or because “people are too politically correct”. Many of you don’t seem to understand that there are basic ethics that accompany any position, whether it be teaching or some other profession. It’s not OK to violate the ethical statutes of your profession for any reason, particularly when one is in authority over others.
It’s also funny how many homophobic comments have popped up, just because female golfers are under discussion. What pathetic little minds you stereotyping bigots have.
By bigmama
May 14, 2007 8:03 PM | Link to this
One person does not make a university-and Todd McDorkle is not UGA. By the way– he admitted it! Having children wouldn’t even make him realize what a filthy mouth pervert he is…unfortunately he is so egocentric he’ll never “learn” from this. I know him first hand! He likes them young and he enjoyed watching the girls react to his perversions. He divorced his first wife while having an affair with a player at AZ- and yes he married her. Wonder what he would have done if his nasty ways would have turned on another player? Married #3…till she gets too old for him? These girls suffered a lot more than AJC reported, but they are too embarrassed to speak the filth. The investigation was difficult on past and present players- thank God-future players will hopefully have a decent coach. Real Life…I feel sorry for your children, too.
By Chip Towers
May 14, 2007 8:16 PM | Link to this
Hey Fan, I’ve left messages on Todd McCorkle’s cell and home phones every day since this story broke telling him expressly: “Please give me a call and let me know your side of things because I understand there are always two sides to every story.” He has made the choice not to do that and instead issued a very contrite statement thru the athletic association. So, no, nobody’s sat down and gotten his side of the story (though I did detail his denials from the investigation) but it’s only because he has declined that invitation.
By Chip Towers
May 14, 2007 8:20 PM | Link to this
Jeff: Based on your premise, here’s what would have been written about Todd McCorkle’s resignation: “SEC Coach of the Year Todd McCorkle resigned today. No explanation was given. Meanwhile, his No. 2-ranked team departed for the NCAA Championships without him.” Would you have been satisfied with that in a free and open society?
By Fan
May 14, 2007 8:29 PM | Link to this
Maybe Coach McCorkle won’t return your calls becasue he know how biased the AJC is against UGA. I can’t say I blame him.
By Jeff
May 14, 2007 8:39 PM | Link to this
I, personally, would have been. Chip, I really am sorry for being so caustic. (Yes, there’s a but) BUT as I said earlier, I have seen FAR too often where a man and/ or teacher is accused of sexual impropriety that NEVER happened. The press jumps on the band wagon with the story. Front page news all over the country. His life is TRASHED. He goes to trial. Is proven innocent. IF the story gets printed (big IF from what I’ve seen), it is buried some place on page Z27, below the fold.
Take it for what its worth, but I have never subscribed to any paper (couple of news magazines, but no papers), and this is one of my chief reasons. Y’all are quicker to jump to judgment - or, even worse, print a story KNOWING the public will - than the most legalistic conservative Baptists I have ever met - and I’ve known some doosies!
I’m not saying don’t report it. I’m saying wait until the jury has decided the case. Then print it. If you want to cover your backsides from people saying “why didn’t you print this”, there are MULTIPLE ways to write a story and get irrefutable timestamps on it. Then SIT on it, until the jury decides.
What reporters don’t seem to understand is that NO ONE gives up their right to privacy just because their job happens to put them in the public eye. That goes from teachers and other grunt-level government employees all the way to POTUS and from the 2nd baseman for the Braves’ A team to Name-You-Famous-Celebrity. And when it comes to the “people’s right to know” vs the privacy and other rights of the individual, I ALWAYS come down on the side of the individual.
And always will.
By Fan
May 14, 2007 9:03 PM | Link to this
Amen Jeff!
By Michael
May 14, 2007 9:08 PM | Link to this
The only thing warranting sanction would be watching the Paris Hilton video on a team bus, assuming it’s the sex video.
By texasdawg
May 14, 2007 9:24 PM | Link to this
Jeff/Fan/Chip;
For those close to UGA golf, it is a known that McCorkle was brash…even during his ASU days. But as usual, a winning record & championship supercede integrity….and we are where we are today.
Chip, the underlying story will be if UGA hires integrity, academia excellence, stability & respect in replacement of McCorkle?
Or if political correctness overrides such and a less than deserving candidate lands the job.
The leading candidate should come within strictly based on past history of the mens and womens program….there’s plenty of home grown talent to take over the program.
A known entity and former Dog all-american golfer is sitting in Evans backyard that will get much attention and has ALL THE CRUDENTIALS….and currently at UGA’s campus course as Head Pro.
Check him out!
By cooter11
May 14, 2007 9:29 PM | Link to this
Coach Rike don’t talk like that
By Matthew at the SLC
May 14, 2007 10:44 PM | Link to this
Perhaps those little tramps on the team should focus more on their game instead of the coach. Winning is what is all about.
You know after hours they are drinking and dropping their drawers. So who cares if the coach is a perv?
By littlemama
May 14, 2007 10:50 PM | Link to this
1…He was found guilty by the legal council of UGA of violating the sexual harrassment policy 2…He didnt return phone calls because he is 100% guilty…why else would he pick up and move the next day…his house has been for sale for a week 3…This is NOT acceptable behavior or how it is in the real world. If you believe this is normal your morals are below par. 4…Someone that is married to a former player is clearly capable of committing such acts of sexual harrassment and being inappropriate with players. 5…The reports have yet to release many more details of the investigation because they are EXTREMELY explicit and would take up the whole paper. 6…Georgia stands for excellence and scum bags like todd mccorkle dont belong at the school at all. It is about time these young women experience a GOOD golf coach.By steve
May 15, 2007 12:38 AM | Link to this
As someone whose teaching career (high school level) was ended by a false allegation made by a female student, I have really tried to look hard at both sides of the coin in the McCorkle incident. Hats off to Damon Evans for conducting a fair and thorough investigation - that’s way more than I ever got.
Gut reaction might say to fire the guy offhand, but I think that the athletic department’s recommendation would have been reasonable. And Chip, you’re also right in that continuing in the position would have been a mistake for McCorkle as his credibility within the program is already shot to hell, and he would never have been able to recruit with this cloud hanging over the program, and him.
The allegations we’ve seen thus far are pretty damning, and downright stupid (if true) for someone in McCorkle’s position to have done. If he did what the accusations say - and I DO say “if” - then he took the high road and resigned before it got any worse.
Again, IF he did what the allegations say, then McCorkle has no place in coaching at any level Period. He should know better.
But the real victims here are people involvd with the golf program, a program that is bound to suffer because of the alleged actions of a person in authority over young people who should have to worry about how to place their next shot and not whether or not their coach is fantasizing about them.
Thank you Damon Evans, for holding your people accountable for their behavior. Now the damage control has to begin in earnest.
By Leebern's Lackey
May 15, 2007 12:47 AM | Link to this
It looks to me like one more case of Michael Adams signing off on the hiring of another infamous coach from out west who already gave ample reason why a reputable university shouldn’t hire him. How does Adams keep sliding by when he’s responsible for Harrick, McCorkle, Tony Cole, and a bunch of others? Does the buck not stop with him?
By JB
May 15, 2007 6:51 AM | Link to this
Some people shouldn’t be allowed to post here. Tis one thing to not like UGA but to make ones self look SUCH the fool… We should look out for folks like this and not allow them to do such things.
As for the coach, what a moron! He made his own bed and now he’s gotta lie in it.
By JJ
May 15, 2007 7:03 AM | Link to this
Some of these allegations may have been borderline, but I will say if you wear purple underwear that is visible through your pants then you shouldn’t be shocked if someone makes comments about them.
By Pat
May 15, 2007 8:10 AM | Link to this
Speaking off moral integrity among coaches, how about the head coach of the national champion Gymndogs? Of course no gymnasts or their daddys ever complain. They know the score when they sign on.
By Patrick
May 15, 2007 8:39 AM | Link to this
Chip, can you comment as to why the AJC’s print and online stories for today did not address the issue of Taylor Leon’s father being the source of the complaint to the administration? The ESPN.com/AP story gives three full paragraphs and quotes (sourcing the AJC no less!) that interestingly did not get told in the local media’s version. What gives?
By Mike Bobo 17 INT
May 15, 2007 8:43 AM | Link to this
THUGA
Anyone seen my Oakleys, blue jean shorts, white socks and work boots? I have tickets for the opener against OSU and I also need to trim my goatie. I will see eveyone after I finish up on Mrs. Johnson’s yard.
I will also be in the handicapped sport, after I lay my UGA diploma on the dashboard of my F-350, which gives me the right to park in the handicapped zone.
I made an A on the Jim Harrick exam!!! Yes, I pass!!
OSU by 21.
By Bryant
May 15, 2007 9:37 AM | Link to this
Our society has become over sensitized to comments made in everyday conversation. At what point will the madness stop over someone’s rhetoric? People say things that are out of line all the time. Get over it and move on.
By Chip Towers
May 15, 2007 9:55 AM | Link to this
Patrick, sure I can comment on Art Leon. The only reason the AP cites Art Leon as the person that initiated the complaint was because I reported. The version of the story that currently apprears online and is in today’s print version was the third version I had written since the open records were released yesterday morning. In the first two versions, I quoted an referred to Leon’s involvement. The third version is more of a big picture look at men coaching women and required less detail about who was involved. For you edification, here is version No. 2:
By CHIP TOWERS ctowers@ajc.com
Athens - Georgia women’s golf Todd McCorkle habitually made lewd and lascivious comments and told sexually-oriented jokes in the presence of team members, according to documents released to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution Monday via Georgia open records laws. McCorkle abruptly resigned May 7 amid a University of Georgia investigation of a sexual harassment complaint first lodged by the father of one of the Bulldogs’ star players. McCorkle told players that he went “commando” (a slang reference to not wearing underwear), explained to the team during a van ride to a tournament what was the meaning of the term “blue balls,” told one player that she “looked sexy” and made similar comments over a period of time and, on one occasion, remarked about the player’s “purple underwear,” which could be seen through her pants, according to interviews of players and parents detailed in the 57-page report of the investigation. McCorkle also bought FHM and Maxim men’s magazines on road trips, showed players pictures of a Victoria’s Secret catalog and compared the models to players on the team, and once had a Paris Hilton video on his computer screen when players were in his presence, according to the documents. Generally, McCorkle’s comments and actions made his female charges feel uncomfortable and were in violation of UGA’s non-discrimination anti-harassment [NDAH] policy, UGA investigators concluded. “Based on our investigation of these matters, [UGA has] determined there is evidence you did engage in inappropriate behavior in violation of the University’s NDAH Policy,” Steve Shewmaker, UGA executive director for Legal Affairs, wrote in a May 4th memo to McCorkle. “… Your comments had the effect of creating a hostile and offensive environment.” McCorkle, 39, who led the Bulldogs to a national championship in his first season in 2001, has not returned repeated phone calls for comment. However, he denied that he was sexually harassing any of the players in interviews with investigators from UGA’s office of legal affairs. “It’s the first time I’ve had a [such a] problem with a team,” McCorkle said in an interview with one UGA official. He indicated that a group of three players on the team were “not team players” and that his comments had been “overblown.” McCorkle was the head women’s golf coach at Arizona from 1997-2000 before coming to Georgia. McCorkle is married to Jenna Daniels, an LPGA player who was on his team at Arizona.
The report also reveals that McCorkle’s resignation was indeed voluntary. The office of legal affairs recommended only that he be suspended without pay for the month of July and undergo training non-discrimination, anti-harassment (NDAH) training during the same period. Interviews of players - which include a 16-year-old sophomore, Alina Lee - corroborated charges first made by the father of one of the Bulldogs’ star players back in April. Art Leon, the father of Georgia’s No. 1 player, Taylor Leon, confirmed to the AJC Monday he was the one who first brought the matter to the attention of Georgia athletics director Damon Evans. “I stood up for what is right,” said Leon, whose daughter is the Bulldogs’ top player. “I’m the person that initiated it. He doesn’t need to be a coach of women’s golf anywhere. He got what he deserved.” Leon indicated that he would have considered legal action against McCorkle and UGA had the matter not been handled like it was. “Myself and several groups of parents felt exactly the same way,” Leon said. “So it just wasn’t Art Leon, I’ll tell you that.” Leon said he was surprised UGA allowed McCorkle to resign and remain employed by the Georgia Athletics Association in an unspecified capacity. “Frankly I thought they would have terminated him,” Leon said. Evans and associate athletics director Craig White informed McCorkle of their findings on the afternoon of May 7th in McCorkle’s office at the Boyd Golf Center at the UGA Golf Course. McCorkle tendered his immediate resignation but remained employed by the Georgia Athletics Association in an unspecified capacity. The Bulldogs’ No. 3-ranked team left for the NCAA Golf Tournament the next day. McCorkle has not returned numerous messages left on both his home and cell phones. Taylor Leon has already decided to leave school to turn professional immediately after the season ends at the NCAA Championship Tournament May 22-25 in Daytona, Fla. Her father said that decision has nothing to do with the investigation. “Absolutely not,” he said. “I tried to convince her to go a year ago. But she wanted to stay another year and it’s the best thing that happened to her because he has matured so much and become a better player. “I think it’s important to know that there is no ill will here among any of the parents,” Leon said. ” This was the second time in two years a sexual harassment claim has resulted in the resignation of prominent UGA official. In June of 2005, John Soloski resigned his post as dean of the Henry W. Grady School of Journalism because of charges brought by a former employee. Soloski remains at UGA as a tenured professor. Jeff Wallace, who has coached Georgia’s women’s tennis team for 22 years, said there certain things that can never be said when charged with leading female student-athletes. “There’s no reason to make any comments along those lines,” said Wallace, the winningest active coach in Division I women’s tennis. “I’m a head coach and I’ve got to rise all above situations like that. I want them to follow my lead. I want them to be classy and appropriate. I’ve got to do that first.”
By anon
May 15, 2007 10:06 AM | Link to this
Maybe someone should take a look at who his wife is and where he met her…
Texasdawg…There’s also a former player in Arkansas right now who would be perfect for the job.
I think there are a lot of people who are not surprised by this and knew it was just a matter of time before it caught up to him.
Lastly, Matthew at the SLC…seems like they did a pretty good job of focusing on their game at regionals. Most girls on college golf teams aren’t your usual college tramps. I think you’ll find at the top programs they’re outstanding students, athletes, and have much higher standards for themselves than the girls you must hang around.
By Jeff
May 15, 2007 10:18 AM | Link to this
Chip:
Thanks for reprinting this version of the story. With these details, I will say this:
Two of those things in particular sound like the conversations would have been iniated by the females themselves, asking a trusted male figure in their lives what these things referred to. (“Commando” and “blue balls” in particular.) Two others - “You look sexy” and the purple panties - would have more than likely be meant as compliments and/ or pointers, and not necessarily coercive/ hostile. I can’t TELL you the number of times I pointed out to female students that they needed to put a jacket on or that their bra strap was showing. It was a virtual daily occurrence when I taught HS, and at least weekly even when I was teaching MS.
So with these details, yes, Chip, I AM coming down on the media for sensationalizing a non-story to the detriment of one man’s career. I AM saying that this was a non-issue stirred up by hyper sensitive girls and their parents. And I AM saying that this story proves my earlier comments true.
By anon
May 15, 2007 10:25 AM | Link to this
Jeff: Unless you’ve read the entire 57 page report you probably shouldn’t make such bold statements. If you hate the media so much, why bother blogging on the online edition? If this one man was so concerned about his career, he should have been more professional.
By Jeff
May 15, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this
anon:
I don’t hate the media at all. I hate when they report on accusations without a decision by a jury, but I don’t hate them. Matter of fact, and Chip can ask Bridget Guiterrez, Rodney Ho, or even Mr. Wooten about this, I even help them when I can (or at least try).
By Bryan G.
May 15, 2007 10:57 AM | Link to this
I don’t think it’s a gender thing. I mean, wasn’t it the LSU basketball coach who just got fired for nailing her players?
So, yeah. It’s really just a professionalism thing. Either way, this is another embarrassment for UGA. I can’t believe he was slapping his female player’s butts. What a damn fool.
By I-DOG
May 15, 2007 11:53 AM | Link to this
G Dawg in Kalamazoo and SEC Football:
UGA had two decomittments THIS WEEK! Interesting that they are right on the heels of Hebron a 5 star hs LB recruit losing an entire year of football for getting caught drinking twice.
If you don’t think opposing coaches are using this against us, I think you are being Naive.
Saban, Spurrier, Gailey, Fulmer and Tubberville are sure to frame it something like this:
Look, I know you are committed to UGA and that is a good school. If you plan to drink at all, you better be very careful in Athens or you will find yourself plastered all over the newspaper. We want you to follow our rules here, but if you come to SC, tech, TN, Auburn, or AL… you will be running sprints if you get caught drinking. It won’t affect your eligibility, it won’t be in the paper, and it won’t hurt your NFL prospects.
If you go to UGA, your taking a big chance.
Give me a call if you change your mind about your UGA committment.
Any thoughts?
By I-DOG
May 15, 2007 12:02 PM | Link to this
Cameron Demps?
Anyone know why UGA hasn’t offered this guy yet, he is supposed to be the fastest hs player in the state at a 4.35.
He has offers from Miss and V-Tech.
When I see a player like this and the two in state schools haven’t offered, I start to wonder what kind of baggage there might be.
Anyone know why GT and UGA have not offered him yet?
By driver8
May 15, 2007 12:06 PM | Link to this
To Jeff: Well, I have read the 57 pages and I can tell you there are aspects of the report that add to the salaciousness of the whole affair that have not been reported (newspapers, trying to maintain the “family” aspect of their product tend to do this). The “commando” issue was brought up by McCorkle on two occasions, not something brought up by “hyper-sensitive” young women, one of which, I might add, is 16 years old.
I can only assume you’ve never worked in the media, since you seem to have little grasp of what it is people in the media do. Do you think Chip Towers woke up and said “Today I will destroy the golf coach.” Chip doesn’t write anything that isn’t fully supported by the documents handed over by UGA. This was something McCorkle did to himself, not the AJC or the mass media you seem to be so afraid of. Why is reporting the contents of a document “sensationalizing” the story? According to these women, this happened.
Shouldn’t people be held responsible for their actions? I know you think these allegations are stupid and meaningless, but then again, he’s not directing them to you. If talking about underwear makes them uncomfortable, then it does. Who comments on purple panties? Seriously, are all of his comments innocuous to you? You can’t see how they would offend someone? Perhaps this is why you are no longer teaching.
McCorkle was told to stop, he didn’t. My God, he still has a job at the University, which is amazing in and of itself. You talk about individual rights. What about the rights of the players he’s harrassing? Perhaps the most damning statement the women make is the fact that top players have chosen not to play for Georgia because of him. Women’s golf has been tarnished because of these detailed actions, and having a jury render a verdict is not going to change that.
By CEO
May 15, 2007 12:27 PM | Link to this
The only bigger idiot that McCorkle is Jeff on this board — I hate when they report on accusations without a decision by a jury — huh? Damon Evans, UGA legal head honcho Steve Shewmaker and his team of investigators sought out the facts and they and other UGA officials were the jury and judge in this case. This isn’t a matter of only reporting allegations, this was media reporting a final verdict. Even McCorkle acknowledged some of the accusations.
By Jeff
May 15, 2007 1:02 PM | Link to this
driver:
I’ve worked with the media often enough to know the basics. (I’ve had my own by-line a few times, in addition to being the Coordinator of Publicity for an organization I used to work for.) I’ve also served on a few media watch-dog groups (including being on the board of one).
Are his comments innocuous to me? Not really. While, as I said, I can understand why he may make the “commando” and “blue balls” comments, even I would have advised him not to, and had I heard him, I would have pulled him to the side a few minutes later and told him that he was an idiot. Do I think he should have lost his job over it? NO Would I have seen that as a possible outcome, if I was there? YES
The purple underwear aspect, it really depends. If she was wearing an extremely short skirt (micro-mini, I think the ladies call them) and it was becoming a distraction, I can see where he may have asked her to change into a longer skirt. (Cue Ron White’s “Petticoat Junction” comments…) Even in that situation, I would say that commenting on it himself would be very iffy, and he should have asked a female coach to approach the woman in question. Again, do I think he should have lost his job over it? NO Could I see it happening? YES
The “you look sexy” comment is the only truly innocuous thing here, and even that could be iffy depending on how he said it. (Cheesy, obvious come-on would be out of bounds. Off-hand compliment, no big deal.)
CEO:
If they had that much evidence, they should have taken it to the Athens-Clarke County Courthouse. Better a jury of 12 than the tyranny of 3.
By Chip Towers
May 15, 2007 1:05 PM | Link to this
I think it’s important to note here that the much of what I and other media outlets have printed are accusations detailed in the investigation report. There were only two things that Todd McCorkle admitted to: the “blue balls” explanation and telling a player she looked “sexy.” Those are the two incidents cited in the reprimand and recommendation from legal affairs. All the rest are merely accusations and cannot be substantiated other than “he said, she said.” However, several of the players corroborated accounts of other players and those are the ones referenced in most media reports.
By CEO
May 15, 2007 1:39 PM | Link to this
Jeff, the point you fail to acknowledge is this was not just a reckless report of accusations, this was reporting the University of Georgia’s actions _ and the coach’s resignation _ as a result of the accusations. And as for innocuous, how a coach telling this joke: “How are women like a tile floor? Lay them right the first time and you can walk all over them the rest of your life.” That was in the documents released yesterday but not fit for publication by media you accuse of only wanting to sensationalize the story. You want a coach telling your daughter crap like that?
By Jeff
May 15, 2007 1:49 PM | Link to this
CEO:
Again, I would have told him the comments were ill-advised and that he was an idiot, but no action beyond that is warranted. They are all adults. (Even the 16 yo, as a college student, should expect to hear comments such as that. What gives me the right to make such a claim? I was once a 16 yo college student myself. Don’t believe me? I matriculated at Kennesaw State University in Spring 2000, just under 3 weeks shy of my 17th birthday.)
Again: If they’ve got the evidence, put it in front of a jury. If they don’t, reinstate the guy. If he’s as bad as you say, give him enough rope and he’ll eventually hang himself.
By Pitbull
May 15, 2007 1:49 PM | Link to this
Chip, I hope you see the damage that the AJC does to itself when it runs non news in order to sell more papers, increase circulation, get scoops, and make money.
I am talking about Matthew Stafford lifts a beer keg over his head, flirts with a pretty girl, and poses for silly pictures and the AJC runs a story. We all know he is a college kid and that is the time in your life when you do those things. If you do them when you are 30, people tell you to grow up.
So now when you write a legit article about accusations and occurances, folks do not trust you (the press) to be truthful, accurate, or to have professional journalistic motives for the story.
It is a situation that the AJC editors and writers have created. The AJC needs to clean up its own house first before pointing fingers.
As I have previously stated, the AJC sports section is beginning to remind me of the Star or the National Inquirer, and I am surprised it is not sold in the Kroger check out lanes.
By P-Dawg in Tulsa
May 15, 2007 2:11 PM | Link to this
Considering the “facts” are that he made players uncomfortable/hostile playing environment, he does at minimum deserve some job related discipline. Most of the stuff stated, individually, would simply require a talking to for most people. The fact that someone is willing to go to these lengths to ruin his life speaks to a probable bigger issue. In my opinion, he can’t coach at UGA now no matter what the truth is(he’s tainted). Unfortunatly, it seems our society has gone off the deep-in when it comes to political correctness. Hypersensitivity seems to be the norm and some days everyone seems to be a “victim”. Because this guy is paying a really heavy price for his conduct, I really hope the justice matches the crime. If the extent of his misconduct is some dirty talk, give me a break.
By gdawginkalamazoo
May 15, 2007 2:29 PM | Link to this
I-Dog, I can see how those coaches would do and say that. No argument from me on that one. Two words that might explain the de-commitments: recruiting trips. Read these kids comments. I think they like the idea of traveling around the country in the fall.
By gdawginkalamazoo
May 15, 2007 2:57 PM | Link to this
If you can’t say it in front of your mother, daughter, sister then you should be saying it in front of your players. There is no political correctness in that, it is just plain common sense, courtesy and respect for th other people. And there is never enough of that going around these days.
I also don’t understand the attack on the media on this. I thought Chip presented the facts of the case and that was that. I don’t recall reading anything about his opinion or him speculating other than he hated to have to report this type of thing.
I thought there was a report issued by UGA and snippets/excerpts of the report were used to write the story.
By Jeff
May 15, 2007 3:05 PM | Link to this
gdawg:
Until a jury renders a “guilty” verdict, this story is a non-issue and should not have been reported on in the first place. I really didn’t mean my stance to come across as an “attack”, but I do stand behind my comments.
By P-Dawg in Tulsa
May 15, 2007 3:22 PM | Link to this
I’ll gladly accept that he shouldn’t have said them, but is this justice? I will gladly stipulate that if this is an ongoing displinary action or there were actions other than sexual inuendo, this life altering, public action may be appropriate. So far the sited misconduct is not worthy of public humiliation, posible marital problems, unemployment, and all the other prices he is paying. Discipline yes. Public/marital/career death, a bit much. By the way I do think sexual discourse and gender roles in the workplace often have topics, including this one, which fall under the term political correctness.
By christopher scott
May 15, 2007 3:24 PM | Link to this
To have a guy like McCorkle still working for UGA is unbelievable. Show him the exit door and keep him away from the campus.
By Becky
May 15, 2007 3:35 PM | Link to this
Guess I’m going to sound stupid on this, but why is it always the guys that get blamed? As someone else wanted to know, did he threaten these girls or did they just get their feelings hurt because one got more attention? I know from my neices (& myself in younger days) that it’s not always the guys fault. No, I never accused anyone of anything dumb. I just remember the flirting & the trash talk…
By RxDawg
May 15, 2007 3:37 PM | Link to this
I agree P-dawg, well said.
By Wozzo the Wonder Dog
May 15, 2007 3:42 PM | Link to this
Today’s contest: 1. Write the Want Ad for a coach to replace McDorkle. 2. Which person, real or imaginary, do you compare McDorkle to (I’m imagining some clueless guy with a big gold medallion and a nearly unbuttoned shirt but I can’t think of a name)? Is there some line from “Caddyshack” that applies to this situation?
By driver8
May 15, 2007 3:44 PM | Link to this
P;Dawg: In the least he should expect some marital problems. He met his wife while he was coaching her at Arizona. You have to figure she’s heard some of these lines before.
The point you’re missing P-Dawg (and I’m assuming you’re a Bulldog fan from your handle name) is that his behavior is costing them top recruits. Maybe he shouldn’t lose his job because of his stupid comments (though he most undoubtedly should), but he should lose his job if top recruits are going elsewhere because of him.
And really, all this political correctness talk is coming from middle-aged men who demure from the firing aspect of this because (and I’m only guessing here) they have said and done the same things themselves.
McCorkle brought in some of the best female golfers in the country and, instead of helping them with a skill they have in abundance, made them feel like sex objects, pure and simple. I’m amazed that this doesn’t make sense to everyone.
By gdawginkalamazoo
May 15, 2007 4:06 PM | Link to this
Hey Chip, can you post a link to this report? Might clear up a lot things people are speculating on here. Then again, it might heat up the debate.
By P-Dawg in Tulsa
May 15, 2007 4:32 PM | Link to this
By driver8
I agree that he can no longer be a coach at UGA. Irregardless of the truth, the public aspect of this scandal has condemed him(he’s tainted). I did state this in my first blog on this page. Also, to think anything ever said of a sexual nature at work is a form of sexual harrasment is flatly not true. If that were the case, I can’t think of a single boss, male or female, that never said anything that if printed wouldn’t be some sort a scandal. It’s the totallity, persistance, and audience of the comments(usally it’t more than just words) that create real and percived issues. Also I happen to know happily married couples with an s that met at work and one was in a higher position than the person they married. Sexual harrassment is a real issue, but so much of it relies on the perception of the person or persons being communicated too.
As a coach/teacher he does have a higher standard, but is what has been alleged in this colum worthy of his life being effectively destroyed for the forseeable future? NO
By Krazus
May 15, 2007 5:07 PM | Link to this
This is the Lifetime version of the Jim Harrick Saga. He slept with a player at Arizona, leaves his wife, brings the player to UGA where he makes her a paid assitant and marries her. She goes out on tour, he’s left alone with his hand in the cookie jar again. Winning coach with sleazebag past that was overlooked.
By I-DOG
May 15, 2007 5:26 PM | Link to this
g dawg in Kzoo:
Good point. I know that just because they decommitted doesn’t mean they won’t end up playing for the Dawgs.
On the other hand, we have had only a handful of players back off on their committment to UGA during the Richt era, but not 20% of the class in one week (the week after the suspension is announced for Hebron and that seems a little suspicious)
UGA will continue to get players and continue to win, but I am concerned that the playing field is not level in regard to consuming alcohol underage. That can hurt us just enough to make a difference.
By Senor Smoke
May 15, 2007 5:43 PM | Link to this
Akeem Dent broke his foot.
By Irregardless =regardless
May 15, 2007 5:58 PM | Link to this
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By AltamahaDawg
May 15, 2007 6:02 PM | Link to this
I-Dog, if other coaches are going to tell somebody if they arent smart enough to not GET ARRESTED TWICE, for underage drinking, then they need to reconsider UGA, I say we just have to take our chances.
By formerbdoggolffan
May 15, 2007 6:24 PM | Link to this
My daughter was considering going to uga for one reason, the golf team. But comments made by the UGA AD like the following will send her to Vandy or UF.“We are appreciative of Todd’s contributions to our golf program,” said Evans. “We look forward to continuing to work with him within our organization.” Goodbye UGA
By Hunk Erdown
May 15, 2007 7:25 PM | Link to this
For a newspaper to be told they should never report on news like this until someone has been found guilty is very naive. If my neighbor was arrested for child molestation, released on bond, and the paper censored themselves or were censored by the court from reporting that the arrest had been made, what the aledged crime was, and that he was now free on bond; I would consider that beyond irresponsible. Maybe that is a poor comparison, but even in this case, especially as a parent, I feel that the University has a duty to the students, parents, and the public to equip folks with the facts… to the extent that the information is corrobarated. If my daughter was considering UGA Golf and the University squelched this info I would be royally pi$$ed. Add to this that McKorkle admitted that he was responsible at least in part and publicly resigned, when the AD didn’t require that… thats news, the newspaper has a right and a duty to report on it. Personally, I think the AD should have asked him for his resignation and bid him farewell. I doubt that any parent with a daughter between 16 and 21 would disagree. The golf team probably has and will lose recruits over this. The fact that the man is married to one of his former students and is at least being flirtatious and possibly committing sexual harrassment, could put the University in a liablous position had they tried to sweep this under the rug. If it were just one incident, one in which he told an “off-color” joke or something, then certainly a warning would be in order. But this appears to have gone way too far for that.
By AltamahaDawg
May 15, 2007 8:30 PM | Link to this
Hunker down, sorry to hear about your neighbor, perhaps you should consider a better part of town.
By Buck Cochran in the NW
May 15, 2007 9:14 PM | Link to this
Child molesters live in all parts of town. Ask any person involved with catching and prosecuting a child molester.
By Hunk Erdown
May 15, 2007 9:29 PM | Link to this
Believe me, I don’t have any living neighbors that are child molesters, and I won’t.
By Gen Neyland
May 15, 2007 11:53 PM | Link to this
A partial quote from the ‘Gunslinger’ series by Steven King, …”and the world moves on.” I hope the golfettes won’t be scarred for life…In the case of child molestation, that is a scar too many suffer and those that commit such an act deserve to be somebody’s best friend in The Pen…Only problem is many appointed judges that hear those cases put the scumbags back in the world…Back to sports…
By AltamahaDawg
May 16, 2007 6:35 AM | Link to this
just kidding.
By Lee
May 16, 2007 7:46 AM | Link to this
Well, like it or not, we live in a hyper-sensitive, politically correct age. There are certain ethnic / gender groups who can get away with saying things without repercussions, there are those who can’t. If you are a straight white male, you can’t.
The fact of the matter is that McCorkle was a coach and as such, was in a supervisory role over these girls - some of whom were teenagers and I think the article said one was 16?? Yes, there is some gray area here and there is a fine line that you don’t cross. If you are a coach in this situation, you err on the side of conservatism. This is called being a professional coach and realizing there are standards of conduct that govern your actions.
That said, as the father of two daughters, if a man starts talking trash to them the way McCorkle did to these young ladies, he and I will have problems…. big time.
By AltamahaDawg
May 16, 2007 9:00 AM | Link to this
I don’t have any problem with the way the AJC reports this or other matters, BUT who is in charge of the captions or headlines? Picture of spurrier this morning with a caption, “spurrier gets in dig at UGA”. Read one of the question where he says vandy an KY will be better this year, referencing them both beating UGA last year. #1, thats just a fact, not a dig. #2 he is saying thats pretty big to do that since he hasnt been able too. I understand its all about capturing attention, and it got me to read the interview, but I would have read it anyway. Any football fan is going to read the article without the inflamatory headings. Doesn’t that lower the journalistic standards of the paper to resort to that? Is anything fair game since its the internet version? Is it just me, or does anyone else get to the point where you know whatever the heading reads, its not going to be in the story?
By gdawginkalamazoo
May 16, 2007 9:46 AM | Link to this
Altadawg, knowing SOS it was a dig. Funny how he didn’t mention us giving him his first shutout since his Duke days though. I do agree the headline was lame, very lame.
By AltamahaDawg
May 16, 2007 10:21 AM | Link to this
Oh, I never underestimate his need to dig somebody. What I like about Spurrier is that his digs are usually just stating the facts. But to read that headline, you expected a 2 minute tirade. Anyway you slice it , he still holds UGA as the team to beat. He has always said that. He used to could, now he can’t, and you have to love it when another program’s major accomplishment (Ky, Vandy) was beating UGA. Dig? or Respect?
BTW. The way i read tyhat was he was saying the SECEast is going to be as brutal as always.
By Legal Affairs
May 16, 2007 1:21 PM | Link to this
Does anyone have this 57 page report on Todd McCorkle? I’ve read some responses that indicate a few of you have read it. Is it on the web?
By Sidnole
May 16, 2007 1:23 PM | Link to this
I think it’s instructive that Art Leon only made his complaint after McCorkle made Taylor Leon cry (this was in the Athens paper) after a couple of the tournaments by criticizing poor play. My problem with McCorkle has always been the ease with which he will yank one of players scholarships if they have a bad year as a freshman. Just in the last 4 years, he yanked a scholarhip from Jean Reynolds, who was 3 time GSGA Junior Girl player of the year from ‘01 - ‘03, and he already took a scholarship away from Vicky Yi, of Oconee High 2006 Class, who was ranked in the top 200 junior players in the country. I think what brought McCorkle down was his insensitive treatment of his players. I’m sure his off-color humor had been going on for years. That was the excuse for bringing him down, but not the real reason.
By I-DOG
May 16, 2007 1:53 PM | Link to this
Senior Smoke:
Did Akeem Dent really break his foot? Anyone else hear about that?
Hopefully, it is the kind of break that will heal by mid july and he can get himself in shape for August pratice at full speed.
By Cuz
May 16, 2007 2:02 PM | Link to this
From what Chip wrote that McCorkle agreed he said, get rid of him. His statements were beyond crude. I have two daughters, if he acted that way around them, he and I would have serious problems. Something like battle axes at five paces.
And any Paris Hilton video, “Paris goes shopping and buys a new Gucci bag”, would be considered cruel and inhuman punishment. I wonder if they ever thought about showing Paris Hilton videos to the peaceful killers down at Guantanimo?
By AltamahaDawg
May 16, 2007 4:40 PM | Link to this
Did anyone see that rediculous poll in here a few days ago as to if one UGA football game should be moved to the GaDome? WTF. I cant figure out what they are going to do with the smoke from my grill on that marta bus. Maybe one day they can condence the UGA games into a single pill , and the Atlanta fans won’t even have to back out of the drive.
By Cuz
May 16, 2007 4:57 PM | Link to this
Yeah Alt, I about choked on a sunflower seed. I personally would like a Atlanta-Jax series for the UGA-UF game, but I am sensitive to the South Georgia contingent of the Bulldawg Nation that feels that the Jax game is their homegame. That being said, my respect for the South Georgians who drive long distances for all UGA homegames overides my Atlanta-Jax desire. I prefer to keep the game in Jax for the South Georgia fans. You of course being one of them.
And no I am not hitting on you. Keep up the anarchy and I will be at Brogens in about a half month. Demerey Way here I come. I am ready for the Village, is the Village ready for me.
By AltamahaDawg
May 16, 2007 5:35 PM | Link to this
damn thing is, I dont think they were talking the Fl game. I think the poll was, should one of the home games, usually in Athens be pulled over. As far as Jax is concerned, I understand at least that argument. Some folks just simply want the game in Atlanta. Closer, easier, for the N.Ga fans. I get that. Now, all the stuff they say to “justify” it, team travel, advantage, homefield, is all total crap, but I understand folks want it closer for thier own selfish reasons, and some like you recognize my selfish reasons for wanting it here. I do think tradition should rule in that toss up. Specially since tradition leans my way. But its not the venue. That game is won, for the most part by the team favored to win, same as most college football games.Heck UGA-AU has been much more difficult to figure out. The Fl game is pretty simple and moving to Atlanta doesn’t change a thing, IMO. What has there been 2 maybe 3 upsets in 20 years in that series? If we dont bring the better team to the Dome, we would simply lose to Fl in the Dome. The last time we took the better team to Jville, we won in Jville. (and actually had a couple we could have pulled out recently, that shouldnt have even been close) It’s not complicated. Take a better team than the other guys.
By AltamahaDawg
May 16, 2007 5:38 PM | Link to this
Like hitting on me is a bad thing……….
By Atlanta Gator
May 16, 2007 9:02 PM | Link to this
Yo, Dawgs. Yours is a better, stronger athletic program without someone like Mr. McCorkle coaching the Lady Dawgs golf team. I’m no fan of political correctness, but rudeness and social improprieties directed by an older man at younger women is never appropriate, especially from a superior to a subordinant. Once upon a time, a coach of young women who engaged in such behaviors would have been fired for his lack of good manners, not because he violated some ambiguous anti-harrassment policy. So be it; the times have evolved, and adult men who want to coach young female athletes better evolve, too.
As for Mr. Hebron, I always hate to see a young man slapped for a relatively minor offense, but rules are rules, and special exceptions and reprieves only lead to more violations by the present offender and others. It is my understanding that the one-semester suspension was given for a violation of university (not team) rules, and that the same mandatory suspension applies to all non-athletes as well as UGA athletes. You can take issue with the rule, but not with its uniform enforcement; that’s the way rules are supposed to be enforced.
With a little luck, Hebron will be back for the fall ‘08 season, a little more mature and a little wiser for the experience. McCorkle will quietly disappear from Athens in a few months, but I would hate to be in his shoes when his wife gets back from the LPGA tour. I bet she swings a mean sand wedge. ouch
By Cuz
May 16, 2007 9:08 PM | Link to this
Ah you crazy coastal warrior. Yeah I follow in the category of make them take a bus ride to an airport and get on a plane. But I understand tradition and I understand that I live less than two hours from Athens and the South Georgia faithful, and I do mean faithful, need a home game. Yours is in Jax. I salute you and the rest of the South Georgia division. Without you guys, our nation is so much less.
By Cuz
May 16, 2007 9:17 PM | Link to this
Good post Atlanta Gator. We like the intellectual discussions. So much better than the name calling. Come back anytime for more mental jousting or comments.
By Atlanta Gator
May 16, 2007 9:36 PM | Link to this
Ah, Cuz, you know me too well … always watching from the shadows, lurking just below the surface, waiting for my moment to strike and deliver a pithy summary of objective wisdom.
As for the Atlanta-vs.-Jacksonville debate, I would not be upset to see the game played in the Georgia Dome every now and again (I am, afterall, the Atlanta Gator, right?), and other than the departure from tradition, most Gator fans think of Atlanta and the Dome as our football home away from home. Besides, ATL is not a bad place to go for a weekend getaway in October. My only caveat is that the neutral site tradition of 50-50 UF-UGA seating arrangements be maintained wherever the game is played. Otherwise, the Florida-Georgia game becomes just another home-and-away game series, not something special and enduring like Texas-Oklahoma.
FYI, South Florida Gator fans have similar geographic issues to Atlanta Dawg fans. Personally, I think it would be a great idea if the Gators played a home game in Tampa, the Citrus Bowl or Dolphin stadium once every few years. It would be a great way to recruit South Florida and reclaim Fort Lauderdale and Miami for UF instead of that program in Coral Gables.
By War Eagle
May 16, 2007 9:43 PM | Link to this
I will be on the DL for awhile. I have reoccurring Lymphoma. I was treated in 2001, an put in remission in 2002. I have a 11cc mass around my colon and intestines. I have had two chemo treatments that are not responsive , so tomorrow My doctors will get more aggressive chemo to hopefully clear it out. I lost 22 pounds and weak at this point with terrible pains in the back area.I have been hospitalized 4 times in the last 5 weeks. ..Need those good old dawg, Gator War Eagle ,and vols prayers, they go long ways. I am not disappearing, but want post too much in the next several weeks…
By Atlanta Gator
May 16, 2007 9:55 PM | Link to this
God bless you, War Eagle. You’re one of the guys who makes this board special. You take care of business, my friend.
By AltamahaDawg
May 16, 2007 9:55 PM | Link to this
War Eagle, we will look forward to your full recovery and return to the blog.
By Hunk Erdown
May 16, 2007 10:05 PM | Link to this
War-
Man, I’m so sorry to hear that. I can assure you that you’ll be in my thoughts and prayers. Obviously you’ve whipped it before so be strong and do it again!
By Hunk Erdown
May 16, 2007 10:35 PM | Link to this
War-
I had a similar problem a few years back and after chemo treatments didn’t work I was put on something that was being given to people with Hepatitus C. They did’nt know why or how, exactly it worked, but a lot of people who could tolerate the side effects got better and in the case of folks needing a liver transplant, it bought them more time to move up the list.
They decided to try it on me and it worked. a year of treatment and I have’nt had anymore trouble with the big “C” in 5 yras now. Its called interferon. I think they have even come out with some meds to take with it to help with the side effects. I’m sure you have good Doctors, but I wanted to tell you my experience just in case. God Bless You!
By Gen Neyland
May 16, 2007 11:12 PM | Link to this
War Eagle
You have this Volunteer in your corner. God bless you.
By Gen Neyland
May 16, 2007 11:26 PM | Link to this
…and speaking of Mike the Vickster, seems every time he steps in it, something out of Athens puts his woes on the back pages. Dog fighting allegations, suspicious water bottles, the ol’ your # 1 to the fans, etc…Hopefully AB will get fed up and get this town a QB.
By Buck Cochran in the NW
May 17, 2007 1:18 AM | Link to this
Wae Eagle, I understand where you’re coming from more than you know. Take care and come back soon.
By gdawginkalamazoo
May 17, 2007 11:40 AM | Link to this
War Eagle, we are praying for you my friend.
By gdawginkalamazoo
May 17, 2007 11:44 AM | Link to this
Did anybody see Bradley’s column from yesterday? Initially they had a picture of Harrick next to McCorkle along with a photo of Bradley and Carter Strickland riding some sort of sled while wearing helments. Anybody know why they took that picture down?
By Spike
May 17, 2007 11:52 AM | Link to this
War Eagle.. Keep the faith.. Football season is right around the corner, baby!!
By Buck Cochran in the NW
May 17, 2007 12:10 PM | Link to this
Has anyone read about Oliver’s grade problems? Just what we need but at least it not related to drinking. hope he make it.
By Cuz
May 17, 2007 1:40 PM | Link to this
God keep you strong Wareagle, you will remain in my thoughts and prayers as you fight your battle. God bless you and your family.
By RxDawg
May 17, 2007 3:33 PM | Link to this
War Eagle, your the only AU fan I look foward to hearing from. I am very sory for your illness. Keep your head high and keep fighting the fight. Best of luck my bloging friend.
By I-DOG
May 17, 2007 3:50 PM | Link to this
War Eagle:
Best wishes on a full recovery! We are pulling for you!
By P-Dawg in Tulsa
May 17, 2007 4:49 PM | Link to this
War Eagle
Best wishes on recovery. I love reading your take on things and wish the best.
By techman72
May 17, 2007 9:24 PM | Link to this
This is such a no brainer. The coach was fishing but no one took the bait. Men that make these type of comments are infamous. They are players who live on the edge hoping the comments lead to an invite. The bars are full of these man and their tactics. If he was working even at a Waffle house(which I respect) He would have been fired and possibly endure an ensuing lawsuit. these girls were not nappy haired *s
By Techman72
May 17, 2007 9:28 PM | Link to this
I dont know about the rest of you but my wife wouldn’t have been supporting me in this situation. I would be supporting her with alimony
By brad
May 20, 2007 11:05 PM | Link to this
First of all, best wishes to you War Eagle. Make sure that you get good doctors.
It appears that Coach McCorkle was a bad hire. It is interesting how many of those we have had under Adams. Is anyone on the Regents board paying attention?
I hope that Athletic Director Evans looks very seriously at Kelly Hester. She’s a former Bulldawg golfer who is now head women’s golf coach at Arkansas and has amassed quite a record there, winning four NCAA Regional Championships. My apologies for not remembering who mentioned her (but not by name) earlier on this thread.