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By Nick

April 27, 2007 12:27 PM | Link to this

Underage drinking occurs all over the country by millions of college students. But this punishment needs to be severe. At least the season. Most college students can get away with it by drinking in private and in general not being idiots while drinking underage. Two arrests in two months? Punish his stupidity. He still deserves an education, he does not deserve to be celebrated as a football player.

By Reasonable Dawg

April 27, 2007 12:38 PM | Link to this

This is very disappointing news. I would have hoped that after the first offence, he would have taken the proper steps to keep from getting caught again. Lets face it, college kids are going to drink. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just fooling themselves. But how you allow yourself to be arrested twice for the same offence in a two-month period shows that you don’t grasp the concept of how to stay out of trouble. You just do your dirt and hope not to get caught. I would have hoped that our players were more intelligent than that. Anyway, MR has to stay consistent. If a precedent has been set where another player got six games, then Hebron has to get six games as well. And a stern talking to by someone that he listens to and respects. End of story.

By AltamahaDawg

April 27, 2007 12:40 PM | Link to this

I think we just need to let the folks who responsibility it is to handle such matters, do thier job.

By Dawg4life

April 27, 2007 12:43 PM | Link to this

This simply cannot continue. It’s these types of players – the ones who have all the potential in the world and have an opportunity to step up to the next level and help their teams, but make these kinds of stupid mistakes – that can ruin our chances of having a formidable season. I understand that he’s a college kid and he’ll make his mistakes, but unfortunately, he’s gotta pay. I say CMR should take the same action that he did with Ian Smith. Thank goodness we’ve got reasonable depth at LB.

CMR also should hope and pray that this doesn’t become another off-season trend this summer, when the temptation to drink while underage and party and get into scuffles at bars will be at its highest.

I wonder if there’s more policing that should be done by the coaches to safeguard the program from this kind of stuff. Probably not, as one of the points of going to college is to mature and become a man…but stuff like this is becoming too much of a trend at UGA.

Two times in two months!!??!! GEEZ!

Still…GO DAWGS!

By Steven J.

April 27, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this

Couldn’t have said it better than Nick.

This guy displays terrible, terrible judgment. And he isn’t even CLOSE to being the legal drinking age. He’s just 18.

By Vick the dog killer

April 27, 2007 12:47 PM | Link to this

He ought to be off the team for a year at least. Maybe forever. I’m a Dawg fan, too, but he’s not responsible, and he needs to learn he doesn’t run the world.

Plus, maybe he needs to get some help for his drinking. Maybe it’s a problem? It’ll certainly be easier to get help when he’s not feeling the pressure of playing college football.

He ought to be allowed to stay in school, though, and keep his scholarship. No point in ruining his life.

But if there’s a 3rd incident, then all bets are off. He’ll need to be gone for good.

By mark

April 27, 2007 12:56 PM | Link to this

Altamaha- nice “father knows best” attitude! That’s pretty consistent with you though. Never giving your own thoughts or opinions other than the rest of us should just calm down because MR and his staff have it all under control. No need to question calls because the coach’s know more than we do. No need to question anything really or worry about anything because the coaching staff knows more than us and they don’t make mistakes. What a boring blog this would be if everybody took your approach. Suspend Hebron’s a* for the year!!! Any moron can sit in a friends apartment and not get caught. Only a dumba** gets arrested twice in two months for the same charge!!!

By JTUGG

April 27, 2007 12:57 PM | Link to this

SAD SAD STORY!!! The young man is making horrible decisions. He is a STUD too!Is it me or does Marcus Howard move to outside linebacker? Somebody explain to me why he does not?

By Crazy George

April 27, 2007 12:57 PM | Link to this

Speaking of being gone and seeing Vick the dog killer up there, I’d say that Vick needs to be gone from Georgia, too.

Different football team, I know, but abusing dogs is a lot worse than underage drinking.

By austindog

April 27, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this

Arresting a college kid for underage possession of alcohol makes me question the officers. Just pour it out and don’t let me catch you again.

But a kid putting himself in the position to be arrested for it a second time? Sorry Akeem, you need to wise up.

By Athens Sky

April 27, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this

6 Games, Enough said.

By Dorsey Hill

April 27, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this

One of things that I’ve noticed is that Coach’s punishments have increased over time for similar offenses so I don’t necessarily think that the punishment will be the same as Ian Smith’s. While I can honestly say that while I was at UGA I was a minor in possession literally hundreds of times. However, I was a student at the university and I was not representing the university. Further, I had not just been suspended for the same conduct.

The fact is that it appears that Akeem is above the rules and he needs to realize that all of his potential will be lost if he doesn’t grow up.

I would expect Akeem to be suspended for the year. He may end up transferring, but we can not continue to have situations where we are short handed at the beginning of every season b/c there are players who think that they can get away with these sort of things. Besides its just so unnecessary. have a couple at the apt. befor eyou go out and then some more when you get back. Why do you have to be so dumb as to out in public drinking?

Finally, I don’t think the coaches should be expected to spy on or follow the players around. They are all old enough to be held responsible for their decisions and we should expect these guys, if not to do the right thing, at least do the smart thing.

By vick the dog killer

April 27, 2007 1:08 PM | Link to this

Ya know, it’s not that the kid is drinking, though, of course, that’s not all that good. The real issue is that he’s not smart enough to stay out of trouble after he got caught already.

Can you really trust someone like that to be a leader of your football team?

When the season is on the line do you want an idiot on the field?

I don’t. I know kids are going to drink. I mean, I did, but I hadn’t been arrested for it, either.

Anyone remember Odell Thurman?

By T-Town Dawg

April 27, 2007 1:08 PM | Link to this

6 games and must go to counseling. You don’t want to ruin his chances in the future, but you don’t want him turning out like Odell, either. That being said, 3 strikes and you’re out.

By l town dawg

April 27, 2007 1:10 PM | Link to this

5 games. yall obiviously don’t know how good this kid is and if yall think that Mark Richt will suspend him for the season then yall are out of your minds. He’s a kid in college doing what everybody does in college. Richt did the party scene when he was a freshman so he knows what it’s like. Ian smith got 6 games and what he did was worst than what Hebron did. in a couple of years yall will hear this guy making plays for the dawgs.

By ugalaw

April 27, 2007 1:11 PM | Link to this

One underage possession charge can be chalked up to bad luck, wrong place at the wrong time, etc. When a guy gets a second one a few months later, either he has the worst luck in the world, or he’s acting stupid every time he drinks and making himself stick out. I would probably guess the latter for Hebron.

I know with Ian Smith, he passed out in a bathroom with his pants at his ankles on one occasion and passed out on campus on another. Can’t really chalk those two up to “wrong place at the wrong time.”

By Lee

April 27, 2007 1:11 PM | Link to this

The fact that he is a “heck of a football player” should not even enter into the discussion.

This is a common event in college sports, especially football. A young athlete gets the “star” treatment throughout his young life and thinks that people will continue to look the other way and make excuses for him.

They then act surprised when they meet Mr. Reality.

Maybe six months of picking up trash on the side of the road in an orange jumpsuit will do the trick.

WWMR do? (What will Mark Richt do)

I know what my old high school ball coach of 35 years ago would do….

By Vick the dog killer

April 27, 2007 1:16 PM | Link to this

Hey. With a name like Akeem is he a Muslim?

If he is then he’s violating one of the main precepts of Islam.

If this is the case then he’s betrayed his religion as well as his football team. That’s not the kind of person you build anything successful on.

If that’s not the case, then he’s just a moron, I guess.

By lojak

April 27, 2007 1:18 PM | Link to this

hang him at high noon…Go Vols

By Vick the dog killer

April 27, 2007 1:19 PM | Link to this

Town dawg you must be as big a cretin as Akeem. Probably bigger. It’s people like you who get schools put on probation because you only care about winning football games. Life is more than football, though you probably don’t understand that.

Why don’t you go pull for Auburn.

By Hairy Dawg

April 27, 2007 1:23 PM | Link to this

The fact is that football players on scholarship get a free ride. They should be held to a high standard because the school is sinking a lot of money into them. They’re more “investments” than “student-athletes”, so they have to be held accountable when they hurt the business’s reputation. Hebron should miss half the season (or 6 games). If he gets caught again, dismiss him from the team.

By AltamahaDawg

April 27, 2007 1:24 PM | Link to this

Well Mark, for the record, I said folks who responsibility it is, I didn’t say his football coach. You do realize that Mark Richt is just the guy’s football coach right? I was refering to the university administrators, police, hey how about this novel idea, his parents! And yes the football coaches need to do what they need to do. I take it from your responce that you think the football coach isn’t going to do the right thing (despite the fact he hasn’t even responded yet). Not sure how you read that to mean I think anyone is perfect or never calls a play that doesnt work. feel free to quote me remotely evr saying that. Thats a pretty big quantum leap.

But along those lines , since you took such a left turn, I realize that its boring to admit that I dont know more about whats going on with the UGA football program, than the guys that actually run it, but hey, I guess my ego isnt so fragile that I can say that. I suppose it is a lot more interesting to always second guess, in hindsight, every little thing that goes wrong, regardless of the fact that I really woudln’t have done it any better and simply critisize things that I really dont know all there is to know about it. Seems to me there plenty of that to go around. At least a few of us, should be able to get away with a little perspective, without getting attacked from folks like you.

By Mark Richt

April 27, 2007 1:30 PM | Link to this

I’making my decision public right here on line…This kid will not be allowed to gamble anymore on the dawgs with Michael Vick at his home in Virginia. I know that is pretty stiff punishment, but we cannot continue to tolerate this type of behavior.

By T-TownDawg

April 27, 2007 1:32 PM | Link to this

This is the real T-TownDawg. That was an imposter at 1:08 post, but I agree with his thoughts. 6 game suspension like Ian Smith and AA meetings every week. Imposter, get a new name.

By snellvilledawg

April 27, 2007 1:35 PM | Link to this

to borrow a syaing: Stupid is as Stupid Does.

MR had little choice. This guy screwed up big time and shoudl be gone.

A message has to be sent to every player.

The university no longer tolerates this type of behavior from any student and he may already be out of school for the semester.

By Lane4411

April 27, 2007 1:37 PM | Link to this

Need to determine if the kid has a severe drinking problem or was he drinking with friends. If he has a severe drinking problem needs professional help. If drinking with friends, determine if disorderly or caught with possession.

Either way player should be punished, but not any more severely than the average student, plus punishment by MR. No preferential treatment, either way.

Binge drinking appears to be a monumental problem on campus.

By snellvilledawg

April 27, 2007 1:41 PM | Link to this

tomake sure as to my prior comment I just went and reviewed the school’s policy as to possession alcholo and/or drugs,

First timeon probation or the semester. Second time while on probation, suspension for that semester and the next.

Adois guessone more scholarship to give out.

By Ramble ON!

April 27, 2007 1:43 PM | Link to this

It’s a given that UGA football players are dumb as a rock. If they knew anything though, it would be what probation is. Gee Whiz.

I think we need some Odell discipline here and suspend him for the first 3 games. Unless one of those games maybe difficult.

By T TOWNDAWG

April 27, 2007 1:46 PM | Link to this

Just what T-Town are you other T-Town dawgs from? I’m the real deal, from Thomaston Ga

By honest_abe

April 27, 2007 1:46 PM | Link to this

dissappointing news…. i say a year suspension sounds good. he needs that time to decide if he wants to grow up or not. if he stays clean of the law and shows the staff that he’s turned the corner then he shoudl still be able to contribute to this team.

By AltamahaDawg

April 27, 2007 1:49 PM | Link to this

“we” Ramble. Does this even concern you?

By AltamahaDawg

April 27, 2007 1:50 PM | Link to this

OHH I forgot, you are obsessed with UGA.

By T-Town Dawn

April 27, 2007 1:54 PM | Link to this

Hey wait. I’m the real T-Town Dawg. Honest. How ‘bout them ‘Gators!?!?!

By AltamahaDawg

April 27, 2007 2:00 PM | Link to this

snellville, thats what I was saying earlier. His fate is already sealed at this point. It’s pretty silly to discuss what his football coach aught to do, (or in some cases already disagree without even knowing) when his legal and university status are going to trump that. We aren’t talking about missing a practice or being disrespctful to a staff member. But even as far as his football situation, I’m sure with as much bad publicity as this stuff got last year, every conceivable offence has a price determined long ago.

By Vick the dog killer

April 27, 2007 2:04 PM | Link to this

I was a grad student at UGA back in the early 90s and I graded a lot of papers.

I hate to agree with Ramble On but a lot of the jocks were as dumb as rocks.

One guy wrote an essay that amounted to:

“Bedonke tlinga.” Then he left.

Of course, those dumb as rocks boys still pound on Tech on a regular basis.

Can you work out a logarithm related to Tech losing to UGA for so many years in a row?

By Dawg4life

April 27, 2007 2:09 PM | Link to this

Chip,

Is there any way you can find out the circumstances around the arrest? Was he wandering the streets in a drunken stupor? Was he in a car with buddies knockin’ the bottle back before going to a bar downtown? Or was he actually picked up leaving a bar?

This may help determine whether it was “wrong place, wrong time”, bad luck, or whether Hebron is just too stupid to know how to do the right thing.

By gator the dog catcher

April 27, 2007 2:12 PM | Link to this

Had Hebron not been belligerent, I don’t think that we would even be having this discussion. Yeah most all college students are going to drink, but most aren’t going to be belligerent when denied entry into a public establishment……..especially when they are already on thin ice.

By AltamahaDawg

April 27, 2007 2:15 PM | Link to this

Just becasue I love to stir the pot. (and this topic is already tired)

University of Georgia President Mike Adams has been elected to chair the NCAA Executive Committee, effective immediately. Adams, who has been a member of the Executive Committee since 2005, will serve a two-year term as chair.

Adams succeeds University of Hartford President Walter Harrison, whose term on the Executive Committee expired at the end of the April 26 meeting.

Adams is no stranger to intercollegiate athletics issues, given his current membership on the Division I Board of Directors and on the Knight Foundation Commission on Intercollegiate Athletics. He also recently completed a two-year term as president of the Southeastern Conference. As a member of the Executive Committee, Adams chaired that group’s budget committee.

Adams was named Georgia’s 21st president in June 1997. Under his leadership, Georgia has been recognized among the nation’s best public research universities for eight consecutive years by U.S. News & World Report.

By Winston

April 27, 2007 2:23 PM | Link to this

You guys are all insane. Everyone needs to calm down and relax.

Dawg4Life, this isn’t a trend at UGA. This is something that happens to college football players at every campus across the SEC and the country (See this off season at UT UF, USC…). Wake up.

Vick the dog killer… Because Akeem got an MIP he thinks he runs the world? Kind of a big leap in logic there don’t you think. And betraying his religion? Get off your high horse and stop inferring things about Akeem Hebron that you know nothing about. But if we want to take that route, you might as well condemn the 7,000 professed Christians who were also downtown last night drinking. And you call Hebron a cretin? Well how about this…I think people who get on blogs and trash 18 and 19 year old kids for making small an insignificant errors in judgment are more deformed, mentally retarded, and in general cretinistic than those they try an bring down. You sir, are a self-righteous moron.

Dorsey Hill…as a student you are not representing the university?? Please. So the Chi Phi’s flashing porn in the student center should get less of a punishment because as “only” students they aren’t representing the university? That story went national, but as students they aren’t representing the university? Don’t give me a double standard and stricter punishments just because a kid is a really good football player.

Lee…picking up trash in an orange jumpsuit for 6 months!! Are you serious? You do know this wasn’t a DUI don’t you?

Hairy Dawg… because he is on scholarship he should have a stricter punishment? OK, well then I guess we should apply that same standard to all the kids on HOPE as well.

When did we all become such self-righteous a-holes as to play judge and jury and condemn a teenager for a couple of bad decisions. We don’t even know the circumstances surrounding the arrest. Things are different in Athens now than when you all were running around 30 years ago. To think that the only way you get in trouble downtown is by acting stupid is also ignorant and untrue. I know plenty of people who have gotten in trouble just walking minding their own business. It happens. So stop with all this pompous bs and let the kid live his life.

By Wozzo the Wonder Dog

April 27, 2007 2:23 PM | Link to this

Six game suspension if no UGA golfers were involved; 7 games otherwise.

By Realist

April 27, 2007 2:25 PM | Link to this

Question: If a UGA golfer was arrested twice in 2 months would it have made the news?

By socaldawg

April 27, 2007 2:29 PM | Link to this

“With a name like Akeem is he a Muslim?”

Wow. no freakin’ wonder the world thinks us Dawg fans are dumb as rocks. Crawl back in your cave dog-killer. There is moldy bread smarter than you.

By Realist

April 27, 2007 2:30 PM | Link to this

Winston - Kids on the Hope are held to stronger guidlines. If you grades drop on the HOPE you LOSE your scholly. Please show me where a Football player LOSES his Scholly because of ANYTHING

By brandon

April 27, 2007 2:35 PM | Link to this

I think Coach Richt should give him the same punishment Coach Meyer or Coach Spurrier would give one of their players. Which would be nothing or very little.

By gdawginkalamazoo

April 27, 2007 2:38 PM | Link to this

He needs to quit wearing his jersey when he goes drinking. At least be that smart about it. Put on an old #34 and the cops would be buying him drinks and giving him a ride home.

By Vick the dog killer

April 27, 2007 2:39 PM | Link to this

Hey Winston or Marlboro or whatever your name really is,

I remember what it was like when I was 18, and I was a moron then. Most kids are.

However, if you’ve been arrested once for underage drinking then you have to be careful. Not being careful in his situation is behaving recklessly.

If you don’t get that then you’re no genius either.

When I wrote “runs the world” i just meant he doesn’t make the rules. A lot of kids in his situation don’t care about the rules. They’ve been told for years they are important, so they ignore the rules. Well, guess what? The judge makes the rules now.

I don’t know anything about his religion, and I said so. I’d gladly condemn the christians. I don’t much respect christianity, and I certainly don’t respect the way most of them behave.

But thanks for your opinion. I value it as much as you value mine.

By jason

April 27, 2007 2:40 PM | Link to this

You see it more and more these days; the perrinial star treatment these kids get.I know alot of you have seen what’s going on in the NFL these days. You have to start looking at character now. There has to be a measurement to look at along with 40 times, HT, WT, Bench press. These are not the same days as when I was in school.More and more it seems that kids just don’t have the same respect for adults, peers, or the authority. My thoughts on Hebron are this : Suspension for the season. This would show him what could happen if he doesn’t shape up.If he really loves to play FB, then he would know what it feels like to have it taken away. When you don,t make wise decisions. I know that alot of people are going to say he was just drinking underage. That’s not the issue. The issue is getting caught twice for the same offense in just a couple of months. That doesn’t show me immaturity or stupidity. That shows me a total lack of respect for #1 his teammates, and the rules put in place. It’s apparent to me that he only cares about himself. If he wants to transfer, then let him. Never seen him play; I will not miss him. It takes a man to admit when he is wrong, and to accept the consequences and punishments that follow.

By Vick the dog killer

April 27, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this

I don’t care if he’s a Muslim. I’m fine with that. I was just saying if he is, then he’s doubly guilty of not respecting his heritage and his friends.

By gdawginkalamazoo

April 27, 2007 2:42 PM | Link to this

Six game suspension. That has already been set as the precedent. CMR has to be at least that fair to him. The university? I guess he will have to follow the rules there and take the punishment as outlined for any other student.

Maybe he can transfer to Penn State looks like JoPa is looking for a new defense now.

By Vick the dog killer

April 27, 2007 2:45 PM | Link to this

Oh, i’m not the dog killer Michael Vick is the dog killer.

I hope he’s run out of football forever if he’s guilty of that.

By gdawginkalamazoo

April 27, 2007 2:46 PM | Link to this

Alta Dawg, how the hell did THAT happen? Last decision Adams made regarding athletics almost killed our basketball program.

By Vick the dog killer

April 27, 2007 2:47 PM | Link to this

Dang, pizzing you people off is a lot of fun!

I’ll have to try this again some other time.

If I had my way I’d reduce UGA football to division III and tell the players to become real students.

And by the way, I played college football. Did you?

By AltamahaDawg

April 27, 2007 2:52 PM | Link to this

Vick, you know “most” Christians do you?

By Brian

April 27, 2007 2:56 PM | Link to this

Underage drinking…give me a break! What college kid in Athens isn’t doing it?? I think that should punish the University Cops or ACC cops for arresting our players for such a minor offense. They have done the school and community a disservice by handicapping our team next fall.

By AltamahaDawg

April 27, 2007 2:56 PM | Link to this

Zoo, I think its a master plan to stop parking on grass, throughout the country.

By Cuz

April 27, 2007 2:58 PM | Link to this

If a UGA golfer falls down drunk and no one is there to pick him up, did he truly fall down?

Does Akeem have an authority problem. That is what needs to be addressed. He has already received a two game suspension from CMR. Does he have a problem with CMR giving him that suspension so he goes out and does it again. I have over twenty truck drivers working for me. If they have a problem with my authority, I fire them. They can work with me or work somewhere else. CMR will be the final person to decide if Akeem can fit in the program of if he will disrupt the program.

If the kid wants to drink, stay out of the bars. Athens finest do a good job of targeting underage UGA atheletes. Last time I was in Athens I noticed they did not care about underage co-eds getting in bars. Double standard, sure. It has always been that way.

By Cuz

April 27, 2007 3:01 PM | Link to this

Vick then you should change your name to Al Bundy, oh yeah that was high school football. Never mind.

By mark

April 27, 2007 3:04 PM | Link to this

Altamaha- “you do realize” that the article asks how many games he should be suspended and insinuates what action MR should take. I doubt the bulldawg nation cares as to how his parents are going to react. I’m sure i’m not the only one in here who has noticed that you fail to ever have an opinion. Actually you do have one opinion, that we should realize that the coaches know more than us, otherwise they wouldn’t coach there and that him/and his coaching staff’s resume absolves them from any criticism for stupid calls they might make!!! You are probably the most boring dude to watch a game with! Offering none of your own opinions, no screaming at the tv, never uttered the words “what kinda call was that??!!?” I can picture you sitting calm and collected always answering the people around with “he’s the coach, he knows more than us, that’s why he’s there and you’re not, I’m sure they ran that play because they thought it would work.” HAHAHAHAHA!!!

By Mike

April 27, 2007 3:04 PM | Link to this

First of all I want to say let the legal aspects run their course..then after that CMR should bring the hammer down and say Akeem,you are sitting out the year and get your life,and priorities back in order and forget about football right now…Next I wish SOMEONE should call a PLAYER’S ONLY meeting and adress these off the field issues..that if ANYONE is planning to pursue a professional career then they HAVE to realise that off the field incidents matter JUST AS MUCH as on the field and it will now come back to haunt them! Times are now that we have camera-phones and the internet and their conduct can/will be posted intantly now and could cost them millions in pro money but more importantly their character resume gets that footnote for the rest of their career!

By DumbA$$ Ugag Jocks

April 27, 2007 3:08 PM | Link to this

HA!HA!HA! How predictable was this and I predict there will be more!

AltamahaDoucheBag, Vick the dick, et al, you guys kill me with your “pound on Tech” rhetoric.

I bet you couldn’t pull a greased BB out of all of your a*******es while you barely squeaked by Tech the last three years. With Ball at QB at that! Sure, a win’s a win, I know. Famous ugag statement.

Good luck next year with that GREAT offensive line!

By AltamahaDawg

April 27, 2007 3:08 PM | Link to this

Cuz, 3 things.

Golfers, as far as I’m concerned, getting the football player in trouble and then tanking at Sea Island last weekend doesnt endear them to me right now. I think the island got the best of them the night before.

Footabll players, Careful saying that the actual head coach of the football team has the final say over his player.Thats soooooooooo boring.

Coeds, if they started restricting that, who would totally ignore us downtown?

By jason

April 27, 2007 3:10 PM | Link to this

Mike, Good post. I agree players should police themselves. Where is the veteran leadership?

By AltamahaDawg

April 27, 2007 3:21 PM | Link to this

“dude” huh? I think you’ve been watching too much real world on MTV. Trust me, plenty of people in here think I am way opinionated. I expresed my opinion on the topic, but you chose to ignore that. I also think Chip would be ok if I took just a slight deviation from the exact question. Its a bigger issue than coach was my point.I dont think you want my opinion, you want it to agree with yours. Actually I do agree with you about the concequences of Hebron, but since you changed the entire subject, I assumed you didn’t care. By the way , if you really want to debate me, on something you know anything about, a real topic, you need to go home and put your big girl panties on, come back and bring something of substance besides your insults.

I’ve noticed you are following the trend of folks who blindly bytch in here and when rationally called out, you just get offended and pull out that whole, “Of the coach is perfect” rediculous mantra. Wow. That is fascinating.

When you’ve been watching the game for as long as I have, then you can tell me how to do it.

By Buck Cochran in the NW

April 27, 2007 3:21 PM | Link to this

Kalamazoo, I think you’re right. Hasn’t a precedent already been set with Ian smith concerning a 2nd offense? Isn’t that a 6 game suspension and probation for a year? That is if the circumstances are the same which we don’t know for sure do we?

By Cuz

April 27, 2007 3:27 PM | Link to this

Alt, I guess we are just too predictable. What a stupid thought to let the guy in charge decide the punishment. Leave it to a poll by the bloggers and let Mike Adams give it his blessing.

By Cuz

April 27, 2007 3:30 PM | Link to this

Why don’t Athens finest go after the female Gym-dawgs, guess they are just too darn cute.

By ugalaw

April 27, 2007 3:33 PM | Link to this

vick the dawgkiller — we’re all in envy of the fact that you walked on at Presbyterian.

By gdawginkalamazoo

April 27, 2007 3:33 PM | Link to this

Buck, as Snellville above mentioned didn’t the rules change between Smith and Hebron’s trangressions? As he mentioned might be a scholarship available. If that is the case dammit for peeing away one solid year and a half with a waste case. This kid was suppose to be good really good on the football field.

On another note, I wonder if Miller saw the contract extension that Grant got with New Orleans today. Maybe that might sway him to the DE position.

By SunDawg

April 27, 2007 3:38 PM | Link to this

In response to a couple of earlier questions, 1) I’ve been an a-hole most of my life and 2) College Football ISN’T LIFE? WTF, of course it is!

By T-Town Dawg

April 27, 2007 3:42 PM | Link to this

I’m T-Town dog from Thomaston, too.

By honest_abe

April 27, 2007 3:43 PM | Link to this

i think some of you are missing the boat on this one. this is a blog where we exchange opinions. rarely if ever do these opinions actually have an effect on uga sports.

having an opinion on what the punishment for akeem should be, doesn’t mean anyone thinks that punishment will be implented. of course there is no “real” point in discussing what our opinions of this topic are but it’s fun and the purpose of the blog.

just like anything else asked by chip… its chance to discuss what we think of the matter. if some feel the topic is stupid then its their right, but no need to minimize the thoughts of others as nothing on this blog is ever important.

By Cuz

April 27, 2007 3:46 PM | Link to this

Dear self described Dumba**. You are correct a win is a win, something Tech seems to have problems getting against UGA. But have faith, I hear Tech’s Dungeons and Dragons team is predictied to annihlilate UGA’s. Somehow we need to recruit more nerds.

By mcdawg

April 27, 2007 3:52 PM | Link to this

what is the deal with the Athens police-if you are not driving a car who the hell cares-are these guys being violent??-i knew one person who was aressted for an alcohol-related incident during my years in athens and he deserved it-they could arrest 20,000 kids on game day-i don’t get it

By austindog

April 27, 2007 3:53 PM | Link to this

Cuz, you nailed it!

The bloggers should decide the punishment.

We should also be allowed some playcalling.

By gdawginkalamazoo

April 27, 2007 3:55 PM | Link to this

Altamaha, I think Adams should allow parking on the grass and invest in TruGreen or ChemLawn. Give the chosen company of his investment choice a contract for the university. Since he is now chairman he can convince his fellow board members to do the same. Should make a nice investment for him. Better that a villa in Costa Rica . Or was that Columbia where he bought UGA the hotel.

By Robbie Burns

April 27, 2007 4:00 PM | Link to this

Suspend him for the entire season! If anything that violates team rules, late for a meeting, class, etc.., send him packing. He’s been given the chance for a free education - he has teh repsonsibility to not act like a complete idiot!

By Braves Fan 79

April 27, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this

I got caught twice myself for underage drinking while at my first college. Almost everyone drinks underage….its not like that guy was smoking crack or ice. Unless hes a retard and running around drinking and acting a fool…then i dont really see why punishment is needed.

By Buck Cochran in the NW

April 27, 2007 4:17 PM | Link to this

Kalamazoo, thanks for pointing that out. so if I read the new policy right he’s out until Jan. 1, 2008? If so, then he has only two years to play ball for Georgia and that puts him in a heck of situation. If I were him, I’d transfer to a top notch 1-AA school and play for 3 years. You know he’d be rusty when he came back and would have a lot of catching up to do. With his talent he could dominate and even though it’s a lower level of ball the NFL would be very much aware of his ability and he could be drafted.

By me

April 27, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this

well, duh……of course he should be punished….this deserves discussion? what was he thinking? was he thinking?

By Cuz

April 27, 2007 4:30 PM | Link to this

No me he was not thinking, he was drinking.

By gdawginkalamazoo

April 27, 2007 4:33 PM | Link to this

Buck, yeah that would be a shame if that is the case. He pretty much threw everything out the window then. Like I said above Penn State could use him now. That would be ironic if he continued on his current path he would end up in the State Penn. Same uniforms.

By gary

April 27, 2007 5:09 PM | Link to this

The biggest punishment would be to make him go to class.

By Matt

April 27, 2007 5:26 PM | Link to this

Multiple weeks of spring practice, depth chart battles, and new assistant coaches but the AJC barely registers a whisper about these matters.

College freshmen arrested for underage drinking=front page of AJC sports page in bold block letters.

AJC=National Enquirer

Simply pathetic.

By DOG_GONE

April 27, 2007 5:36 PM | Link to this

UGA= Criminal University. All UGA cares about is winning (and when they dont win they whine). Punks and theives is all yall ever get. UGA is a disgrace to the SEC off the field.

By DOG_GONE

April 27, 2007 5:43 PM | Link to this

How many players are already suspended for the start of next year. This is a yearly ritual for yall. Oyea it aint even summer yet. Yall will probably have to stagger the days of your suspended players just so yall will have a team at the start of next year. UGA=Bad roll model for kids

By Chip Towers

April 27, 2007 5:47 PM | Link to this

Looks like coach Mark Richt is going to take a little more time before deciding how to handle Hebron’s situation. Following is the statement he issued thru the sports communication office in the last hour:

“When you make mistakes in life you have to deal with the consequences. Akeem (Hebron) has made two errors in judgement in a short period of time. At this point, I’m not certain what the final consequences will be, but he will have to pay a significant price.”

By AltamahaDawg

April 27, 2007 5:52 PM | Link to this

honest abe, thank you. I think the point that is MISSED is that some folks opinion of the situation is that that the punishment should be implemented, and is going to be fair, by the folks who deal with it best. Thats an opinion, if that isn’t clear.

(not to abe now) I’d appreciate it if, just because my opinion happens to be the reality of the situation, and not some made up rant, its not treated as less of an opinion. I’ve notice thet the right of speaking your mind in here only applies if it dramatic.

Chip also how this was a reflection on the coach and the program. It’s seem a pretty reasonable answer that he would be the one with the most at stake and therefore the one to deal with it best.

By tim

April 27, 2007 6:03 PM | Link to this

Dog Gone = a Bug who apparently forgot about a guy named Ruben Houston.

By tim

April 27, 2007 6:09 PM | Link to this

Let’s see…GA Tech starting free safety has several hundred pounds of pot in his car - no biggie.

FLA starting OLineman pulls an assault rifle on someone outside of a nightclub (after spitting in said victim’s face inside the club) - no worries.

OSU star QB takes 500 bucks from a booster, yet still wins the Heisman.

USC running back has his agent buy a 800K house for his parents - ah, it’s alrite.

UGA player gets caught with a beer underage, HOLY CRAP - UGA is a thug school deserving of the Alabama, er, I mean death penalty.

Give me a break.

By tim

April 27, 2007 6:13 PM | Link to this

Oh yeah, forgot about the QB from a certain trade school who couldn’t play in the Bowl game cuz he hadn’t been to class in 8 weeks…

By AltamahaDawg

April 27, 2007 6:27 PM | Link to this

Buck, your girlfriend is going for the 3-peat in about 30 minutes.

By honest_abe

April 27, 2007 6:35 PM | Link to this

point taken.

By Ramble ON!

April 27, 2007 6:54 PM | Link to this

I’d really like to see him transfer to Tech. What’s wrong with that idea? The discipline at UGA is going to be way, way, way too harsh and at least at Tech he has a chance of playing.

By I-DOG

April 27, 2007 7:20 PM | Link to this

Tim,

Your exactly right. All you have to do is look what Florida did with Channing Crowder (same position, similar high school recruiting ranking). Crowder assaulted people two different times at FL and got what, a one or two game suspension the 2nd time around.

Hebron drinks alcohol underage and is not nice to someone and we are talking about at least a 4 game suspension and probably more.

The drinking age is a law that makes no sense. The reality is everyone drinks underage, so all that does is create criminal behavior among citizens that would otherwise obey the law.

That said, those are the rules, and he has shown bad judgement. Suspend him for 5-6 games total and put him on notice that ANY other incident results in his dismissal from the team. Give him a release to attend any other school he wishes (without having to sit out) if he does not want to be a Dawg and abide by those rules for the rest of his career and ask him to choose within 30 days.

By Hunk Erdown

April 27, 2007 7:30 PM | Link to this

I can’t imagine that when this happened last time that CMR didn’t say something to the effect of “and if this happens again,…” but, maybe not.

My nephew was working in a bar downtown last year and he told me that there are a lot of times that the players get a free pass from the cops that we don’t know about. He said that the guy has to get real nasty, refuse to go home, or has gotten a few free passes already. He said that the cops there bend over backwards to help out the players, but sometimes the player forces them to make an arrest by being drunk and stupid.

By I-DOG

April 27, 2007 7:35 PM | Link to this

Ramble On! We all agree this young man must be punished, but you go too far. Making him transfer to Tech is just cruel and unusual and UGA does not want to draw the ire of Amnesty International. Maybe 5 years in jail or a $1,000,000 fine, but to make him a Yellow Jacket, thats just not right.

By War Eagle

April 27, 2007 7:39 PM | Link to this

Trey Blackmon-Akeem Hebron: separated at Birth.

By cooter11

April 27, 2007 8:53 PM | Link to this

guess his parents drank

By War Eagle

April 27, 2007 8:53 PM | Link to this

In my days as as former SEC player at Auburn, we probably had as many player violation in my four years as UGA, SC and Tenn have in one season. There are reason for this.!> Coach Jordan was a very discipline. First offense , all your outside privileges were taken away, go to class, practice>Dorm. The second offense, suspended for one complete season, live on campus, not with players.In my years at Auburn, we had 2 players suspended for the season.Today coaches are more lenient,game suspension, slap on the wrist etc. Example Steve Spurrier reinstated his prize recruit QB after two rule infractions, one on a serious side, but its Spurrier`s future. Under Coach Jordan he would never played a down at Auburn.SEC coaches make big bucks and they need performers to instill their coaching ability, so its marginal discipline, which leads us to Trey Blackmon, who will probably never play another down at Auburn because alcohol problems. CTT has less problems than most SEC teams because he has 6 game suspension, not two.

By Bill

April 27, 2007 9:03 PM | Link to this

Well Tim it’s just like a typical Bulldog to switch this issue to UF.Let me give you a fact.

Ronnie Wilson the player involved in the gun incident is indefinitely suspended from the football team.The school,not the football team is handling this matter.He may well be kicked out of school.

So the no worries comment is either misinformed or a downright lie.

Which is it?

By Buck Cochran in the NW

April 27, 2007 9:17 PM | Link to this

Altahama, I don’t understand, please explain.

By Cuz

April 27, 2007 9:40 PM | Link to this

Buck I aint got a clue what Alt said either and I usually understand him.

Hey everyone, just want you to know that everything I said about the Akeem alcohol incident was my opinion. What I thought was the purpose of this blog in the first place. As Altamaha and I agree, the ones in charge, CMR, the buck stops here, are the ones that will make the decison on the punishment.

As I said, I do not know if it is an authority issue, if so, he needs to transfer to Thug-U, the U of Miami. I would hate to see a player with obvious talent working at Walmart and telling all the late night stockers what a great NFL player he would have been. For his sake, I hope he can be saved. And yes I think underage drinking is a crock also. It just seems to get a lot of press. He did not pull a gun or beat up his girlfriend, all much worse.

By jkjk

April 27, 2007 9:40 PM | Link to this

It will be interesting to see if Blackmon plays this year at Auburn. I imagine he will.

By Cuz

April 27, 2007 9:46 PM | Link to this

Leave us not forget. Mike Vick owns a house that sponsors dog fights at the minimum. Akeem is caught drinkiing underage, gasp, twice. Which one will be suspended for more games? Anyone, anyone, Bueller?

By Cuz

April 27, 2007 9:52 PM | Link to this

Bill, of course it is easier to turn the attention to Florida. And more fun than attack ourselves. Just kidding, you have a point and I apreciate you bringing it up. No major program is without problems as far as I can see. We build these kids egos up way too much. If Elvis could not handle the pressure, why do we think 18 to 21 year olds can act like some kind of saint. Saint Paul was a great theologian but he was a lousy pass blocker.

By MadMerf

April 27, 2007 10:44 PM | Link to this

War Eagle,

The first thing I thought about when I read this blog entry was what would Spurrier have done in this situation. But I think we already know the answer to that.

Ian Smith has been in school for two years and Akeem Hebron has been on campus for a year. Stephen Garcia, however, had only been in Columbia for two months before he violated his underaged public drinking probation with a more serious offense. All he did was get caught intentionally keying a professor’s car in broad daylight.

Garcia was “disciplined” by missing a few spring practices and whaddaya know, he’s back on the field. Anything to win at SC, I guess. “Kids will be kids” quips SOS. Its not like the kid was running around waving a rebel flag or something.

Expect to see Garcia in a game before Smith, Hebron or Blackmon. That is unless, of course, he isn’t jailed in Georgia or Florida first.

By Buzz Draft

April 27, 2007 11:23 PM | Link to this

Make him actually attend a class.

That’ll learn him!

By MadMerf

April 27, 2007 11:33 PM | Link to this

As for Hebron himself, I can’t believe this kind of thing is so open to public ridicule. We went on and on with this very subject after Smith’s second offense, and our opinions of what should be done varied radically. It is the same with coaching staffs and university rules committees: each case is treated on an individual basis.

Some schools are tougher on student-athletes than others. If a particular school has more violators than other schools, it doesn’t necessarily mean there is a lack of institutional control, it usually means the standards are stricter. It sounds like Good Counsel High School didn’t do a good enough job of counseling. (I didn’t mean that, just couldn’t pass it up)

I am extremely disappointed with Akeem’s behavior. Son, when you’re on probation, you keep as low a profile as possible. But that is what drinking does, it makes you stupid. Lord knows I’ve been stupid for a while now, but the years have taught me to slow down at certain times. It’s not too late to turn it around, and that is the lesson here, but one more slip could be catastrophic.

Coaching staff aside, some of the upperclassmen on the team need to show some leadership and talk to the younger players about the consequences of trying too hard to be cool.

By AltamahaDawg

April 27, 2007 11:34 PM | Link to this

How bout them Gym Dawgs? 3 in a row.

By AltamahaDawg

April 27, 2007 11:35 PM | Link to this

You guys will figure it out.

By MadMerf

April 27, 2007 11:46 PM | Link to this

Hunker down you long-haired dawgs!!!!!

By Dawg4life

April 28, 2007 12:11 AM | Link to this

Mike,

I absolutely agree. A team is just that, a team. These guys work together on a constant basis to achieve a goal on the field. They should work together to achieve the same goal off the field. If that means one of the team captains calls a team player’s only meeting and issues an ultimatum that all players be personally responsible for themselves and their conduct off the field, then it should happen. That’s the definition of team leadership. And it needs to be done.

By NC Dawg

April 28, 2007 12:32 AM | Link to this

Six game suspension and then three strikes you’re out. Non-negotiable. It doesn’t matter that he’s a young skull full of mush. They all are. He’s ole enough to straighten up and fly right. Mr. Hebron’s behavior is a huge downer for the team. I don’t want to see him cause the team to get down. Somebody needs to acquaint him with the story about Odell Thurman, who turned in an excellent pro rookie season and then trashed his life about as fast as possible. Off the field behavior is part of the bargain. He’d better start realizing what an absolute privelege it is to even be where he is. So, if he can’t go wit da flo, then he can go out de do’.

By BuLLdawg

April 28, 2007 1:26 AM | Link to this

http://ching-athens.blogspot.com/2007/04/hebron-arrested.html

What gives with this football team, all of a sudden ? Do we think that everything will just be handed to us on a silver platter any more, or what ?

Guys that could be out there starting, getting publicity like they think they are Michael Vick - and, can get away with it like he does.

For a football team that was not ranked by one single solitary poll at for all of last season except for the Final AP Poll, having lost to intramural Vandie and Kentucky for the 1st time in 4 decades.

And, just when this defense lost all its great players from last season - except for Paul Oliver.

I will not put up with another Summer of this bad publicity and at positions that are so absolutely crucial to our having any semblance of success on Defense this up-coming season.

Here we are supposed to be thinking about : (1) how our players at his position might be given a free agent shot to make some NFL roster after the weekend, and (2) how he and the other younger linebackers might be on the field instead of a senior who came here with such promise and has produced not a damn thing.

And, instead, this underage town drunk - says “Nah, let’s talk about me all weekend now.”

Again.

I am not happy with this football team.

Not one damn bit.

What Auburn’s Tommy Tuberville, or Arthur Blank of the Falcons does about Michael Vick has nothing to do with the fact that Akeem Hebron is yet another UGA Linebacker not doing what was expected of him.

Presumably, now with Akeem Hebron off to the drunk tank - already suspended for his 1st offense and that not even behind him yet - the punishment is that he as a 4-Star 4.4 speed in the 40 yard dash from Gaithersburg, Maryland now sees what he lost and that Rennie Curran and Charles White move up in the depth chart before they even get on campus and one or both figures to hit the field because we have no linebackers committed for next season at all.

By mark

April 27, 2007 12:56 PM

” Altamaha- nice “father knows best” attitude! That’s pretty consistent with you though. Never giving your own thoughts or opinions other than the rest of us should just calm down because MR and his staff have it all under control. No need to question calls because the coach’s know more than we do. “

” No need to question anything really or worry about anything because the coaching staff knows more than us and they don’t make mistakes. “

” What a boring blog this would be if everybody took your approach. “

” Suspend Hebron’s a* for the year!!! “

” Any moron can sit in a friends apartment and not get caught. Only a dumba gets arrested twice in two months for the same charge!!!** “

Amen.

By UGA85

April 28, 2007 1:59 AM | Link to this

War Eagle,

Give me a break. Times have changed greatly since Shug’s reign! Now days, a stabd-out athlete can hardly wipe their a* without it being roadcasted! I don’t condone Hebron’s poor judgement but with today’s media and everyone’s seemingly “right to know”, your’re comparisons are way off. I feel certain that Shug didn’t have a clew about much that was going on behind the scenes. For god’s sakes, there are cameras in downtown Athens now! I totally agree with you that this behavior is unacceptable but let’s be real. Every 18 year old player’s behavior at a division I school is under extreme scrutiny. Commparing “then” to “now” isn’t even relevent.

By BuLLdawg

April 28, 2007 2:41 AM | Link to this

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By War Eagle

April 27, 2007 8:53 PM

” In my days as a former SEC player at Auburn, we probably had as many player violation in my four years as UGA, SC and Tenn have in one season. “

” There are reasons for this.!> Coach Jordan was a very discipline. First offense , all your outside privileges were taken away, go to class, practice>Dorm. The second offense, suspended for one complete season, live on campus, not with players.In my years at Auburn, we had 2 players suspended for the season.Today coaches are more lenient,game suspension, slap on the wrist etc. Example Steve Spurrier reinstated his prize recruit QB after two rule infractions, one on a serious side, but its Spurrier`s future. Under Coach Jordan he would never played a down at Auburn.SEC coaches make big bucks and they need performers to instill their coaching ability “

” so its marginal discipline, which leads us to Trey Blackmon, who will probably never play another down at Auburn because alcohol problems. “

” CTT has fewer problems than most SEC teams because he has 6 game suspensions, not two. “

BS.

First, you came running in here bragging to this blog how Coach Tommy Tuberville who does NOT have a Winning Record against Coach Richt and who has NOT out-recruited Coach Richt ONCE does not recruit bad discipline players from the state of Georgia - just the cream of the crop in UGA does CTT recruit you told us.

Now, you come in here and look the other way that Tubs has never done diddle-e-squat about all the academic B.S. of his ” **psychology” READING classes and hold up Auburn as so damn great on this point.

Stick it up your rear, as Tommy Tuberville has not done a damn thing against UGA either in recruiting or playing us to come in here like Auburn is NOT the Laughing STOCK of college football for all your violations.

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By Murph

April 28, 2007 6:13 AM | Link to this

Akeem Hebron made a serious mistake. It is a mistake that a lot of college students make. Unfortunately, his mistake is very public by virtue of his position on the Georgia football team.

I anticipate that Richt will suspend him for the season. However, he should be kept on scholarship and allowed to go to class, to go to alcohol counseling and to get his life in order. This may be the only opportunity that this young man has to get a college diploma and, potentially, to play professional football someday. Intervention now could make a profound difference in Akeem’s life. Football is football, and the team will get along without him. But, paradoxically, in this situation the individual is more important than the team. After the 2007 season has ended, Akeem Hebron’s transgressions will be a mere footnote to yet another successful Georgia season. But in Akeem Hebron’s life, this is make-or-break time. He will not get another opportunity like the one he has now. He needs to be made to understand this. Otherwise, he could end up another lost soul like Maurice Clarett or Quincy Carter.

No team—not Auburn, nor Tech, nor South Carolina, all of whom have had players with similar problems—should put the team’s needs above the player’s needs in a situation like this one. Spurrier’s incredibly poor judgement with Stephen Garcia reflects the level of desperation in Columbia. Richt may not be a better coach than Spurrier—not yet, anyway—but he is a better man and will do the right thing for Akeem. Unfortunately for some die-hard Georgia football fans, that “right thing” will mean that Akeem will not see the football field for a while.

By AltamahaDawg

April 28, 2007 8:14 AM | Link to this

Mark you see the danger of making assumptions and putting words in peoples mouth now? When ol’ #39 starts to agree with you, you know you are headed down the wrong path.

By GARDI DOG

April 28, 2007 8:36 AM | Link to this

send him home forever…M R has got to put his foot down. I really hate to lose a kid like this, but the message should be loud and clear. You simply don’t win championships with drunks. Let him go home,get help and re-apply next year. GO DAWGS

By DOG_GONE

April 28, 2007 9:29 AM | Link to this

Yall UGA fans aint so smart. If this was the only run in with the law your players have had in the last couple of years it would not be so bad. * But it happens all the dog gone time!* Bobby Bowden and coach Mark Sick are about the only ones who recruit criminals.

By george

April 28, 2007 10:16 AM | Link to this

This is just another reason the GA legislature should consider lowering the drinking age back to 18, like it was for all the baby boomers of the 60’s. He can vote, fight in the military, but can’t drink a beer. Legalize beer and wine for < 18 yr olds.(they are drinking anyway)and these issues will not be problems. MIP’s are just another reason for the local gov’t to generate big money. Our State Gov’t. needs to worry about the concerns of the citizen’s more than, an apology for something that happened 150 years ago. They wasted our tax dollars this legislative session and now have to come back. I’m sorry I used this for another forum other than what this blog was set up for.

By oldschoolfootball

April 28, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this

Give da dawg a break. He just realize he was an idiot to attend GA in da first place, got a little intoxicated like most GA DAWGs do, went to hang out with rest DAWG idiots at the Village Idiot. He should lose his free ride and receive the punishment any other pupil at GA would receive, that is if they receive punishments at Uga.

By JimmyG

April 28, 2007 10:20 AM | Link to this

He wouldn’t miss a game at any other school. South Carolina for example reinstated Garcia after two arrest

By Gen Neyland

April 28, 2007 10:39 AM | Link to this

As I think back to TV’s first reality show in a drama format, Andy of Mayberry, I recall ol’ Barn had this thing for sweeping the streets in search of Otis. Otis, the town drunk, never pulled community service, although I got the impression Otis may have been forced to polish Barney’s pistol for his crimes against humanity… Young Hebron needs a solid dose of humility…Take your medicine or take a hike…

By F A Skippy

April 28, 2007 12:23 PM | Link to this

Six games is the obvious number of games to suspend him.The real question is what else.The kid has problems or he wouldn’t have done such a dumb thing so close to doing the same dumb thing (dumb and dumber).Somebody has to get in his head and on his back in a fatherly way.What if he were to mess up again ?then his career could well be over,not because he commmitted some heinous crime but because of studid actions.The truth is in a competitive world when all is said and done studidity is the one crime you’ll always pay for.

By BankDawg

April 28, 2007 1:35 PM | Link to this

Bottom line: We need him.

By Bevis & Butthead Dawgs

April 28, 2007 2:38 PM | Link to this

Uh, huh, huh, uh, uh … Neyland said “polish his pistol,” Uh, huh, huh, uh. Get it? Polish his pistol. You can’t say that in a family-oriented blog. Uh, huh, uh, uh.

By Austin Dawg

April 28, 2007 3:33 PM | Link to this

Suspend him for six games. One offense is bad enough. These guys are high profile on and around campus. They have to be careful particularly after having been caught before.

By Dave In Tampa

April 28, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this

Even though he’s a good player and we need him, my question would be, “What would happen to student if they were caught for a second DUI?” That should be the punishment.

If they are still allowed in school then CMR should be aggressive with punishment and suspend him for one entire season at the very least. Come guys, it’s his second time for DUI. You have got to take responsibility for your own actions.

By BankDawg

April 28, 2007 3:59 PM | Link to this

Dave: The charge is Minor in Possession (MIP), not Driving under the Influence (DUI). Pretty big difference, buddy. Get your acronyms straight.

By Chip Towers

April 28, 2007 5:03 PM | Link to this

Congrats to the UGA women’s gymnastics team for its third consecutive national championship and eighth overall.

By Steve

April 28, 2007 8:27 PM | Link to this

A first offense? Suspend him, make him run until his legs drop off, whatever.

Second offense? He should be gone. Period. Make a statement! If a player can’t conduct himself in accordance with a minimal set of societal standards, then to hell with him. Let him have a career of “You want fries with that?” and wonder what might have been. He will have no one to blame but himself.

CMR, remember the old adage about one bad apple. Dump him. Wish him well, enroll him in an alcohol rehab facility, do whatever you can to help him straighten up. But hos playing days should be OVER.

By War Eagle

April 28, 2007 8:33 PM | Link to this

BuLLdawg, you are up to your same old crap…You can`t stand and even demonize by CMR. CTT record is 3-3 against CMR. CTT has the third best winning PCT in the country behind USC and Texas, the last three years..BuLLdawg, you are the laughing stock of this board,ITS PEACEFUL UNTIL YOU SHOW YOUR LIES

By Buck Cochran in the NW

April 28, 2007 9:32 PM | Link to this

For those of you who may have missed it, back up the blog, snellvilledawg looked up the school’s punishment. 1st time, probation. 2nd time while on probation, suspended for this semester and the next one. Summer not incl. That means he’ll be out for the fall semester. I’m not sure what else CMR will do if anything. You may want to read snellvilledawgs post your self. It’s back toward the top.

By BuLLdawg

April 29, 2007 5:14 AM | Link to this

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SEC dominates 1st Day NFL Draft.

LSU has its 2nd (Billy Cannon 1960 Rams) 1st Pick of the NFL Draft with JaMarcus Russell leading the way for The SEC taken by the Oakland Raiders as their starting quarterback for next season.

As predicted here by me, Notre Dame’s Brady Quinn who did diddle-e-squat except against cupcakes, was not selected until Pick Number 22, sitting over there complaining and whining.

The SEC has now 15 First Overall Picks in the Draft for Pro Football, including three (3) from Georgia – which no SEC program has more than.

The 11 First Round Selections this season from The SEC is the most of any conference.

The Big Ten (11) only had 7 First Round Selections (half the SEC’s).

The ACC only had 6 First Round Selections (again half the SEC’s).

And, the Big XII only had 4 First Round Selections (a third of the SEC’s.)

After the 1st Two Rounds of the NFL Draft, The SEC had 17 picks – the most by far of any conference and 4 more picks than the Big Ten (11) had had.

The Big XII and ACC each only had 7 picks, ten fewer than The SEC, after the 1st Two Rounds of the NFL Draft.

The SEC lead the way in 1st Day NFL Draft Picks with 21 through the 1st Three Rounds, including both UGA Defensive Ends Quentin Moses – also taken by Oakland – and Charles Johnson – taken by Carolina who seemingly has a much better feel for UGA Football players in the NFL than do the Falcons still.

By the time the Falcons had made their 4th NFL Draft Pick, Number 8, Number 39, Number 44 and Number 75 – they had once again passed over one of the most dominating football players ever to go in the NFL Draft. Carolina instead once again takes a Bulldog.

http://www.secsports.com/index.php?urlchannelid=2&urlarticleid=8902&url subchannelid=&changewellid=2

There are two other football programs in college who have more in the NFL than do The Georgia Bulldogs. Perhaps Bobby Petrino and Arthur Blank (who continues to harbor criminal Michael Vick) think that Petrino is still playing the cupcakes Louisville plays and doesn’t need a stud such as Charles Johnson ?

Charles Johnson has the Brightest Future of any UGA player. Congratulations numnuts Bobby Petrino, Arthur Blank, and the Atlanta Falcons for once again passing – even with the 75th Pick – on Charles Johnson. Why have the Falcons done this every single year ? Do you really not know ? Or, you really do not want to be known as the Georgia Falcons ? Which is it ?

As for Auburn’s Shug Jordan, he was ON PROBATION in 1957 and not even allowed to play in the Sugar Bowl.

Auburn has been held accountable for major violations in addition in 1991, 1993, and 2004 - along with 1957’s great and wonderful Shug Jordan who never did any wrong.

Auburn had its academic accreditation placed on probation, in addition.

How many times have the Bulldogs been banned from participating in a bowl game? How many times have the Red and Black been forbidden to appear on television? How many times have the Classic City Canines been declared ineligible to compete for the conference championship? How many times have the ‘Dawgs been denied the opportunity to be ranked in the coaches’ poll? 0, while Auburn has had 4.

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By BuLLdawg

April 29, 2007 5:42 AM | Link to this

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By War Eagle

April 28, 2007 8:33 PM

” *ITS PEACEFUL UNTIL YOU SHOW YOUR LIES” *

Oh, its a lie Auburn’s Shug Jordan, was ON PROBATION in 1957 and not even allowed to play in the Sugar Bowl ?

A lie Auburn has been held accountable for major violations in addition in 1991, 1993, and 2004 - along with 1957’s great and wonderful Shug Jordan who never did any wrong ?

A lie Auburn had its academic accreditation placed on probation, in addition ?

Lies that UGA by comparison has never been banned from participating in a bowl game?

Lies UGA never been forbidden to appear on television?

Lies UGA never has been declared ineligible to compete for the conference championship?

Lies UGA has never been denied the opportunity to be ranked in the coaches’ poll?

Oh, yeah, Auburn should be HELD UP as so great and wonderful compared to UGA or any other school.

Yeah, right - which is why you have so many other exactly equal responses to your BS.

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By Gen Neyland

April 29, 2007 9:17 AM | Link to this

BuLLdawg

Allow me to expound upon your bragging of the SEC in the current NFL draft :

A tip if the hat goes to LSU with 4 first round picks…

Through the first 3 rounds of the NFL draft, shall we also inform the masses which SEC program had 5 players chosen..? Golly, you talked me into it…UT

By War Eagle

April 29, 2007 10:48 AM | Link to this

Hey General, in five years, the SEC will dominate NFL Drafts. In 2004, Auburn had three top 10 picks, plus Carlos Rogers #18 which all are starters today(Campbell, Brown, Williams and Rogers). LSU had 3 offensive players in the first round and they scored only 3 points on Auburn last year.. Tenn. Florida, Auburn and LSU have consistently had # 1 picks.I was glad to see Charles Johnson go in the third round, I think he will be a solid NFL player.

By Buck Cochran in the NW

April 29, 2007 11:20 AM | Link to this

Anyone calling UGA FB team a bunch of thugs should go to Rivals.com. Penn. St. had (6) SIX PLAYERS ARREST ON SOME HARD CHARGES. I womder how Joe Pa. will handles this?

By Buck Cochran in the NW

April 29, 2007 11:41 AM | Link to this

From the Athens Banner-Hearld today……”Had he gone back he would have been looking at a high first round pick or at worst a mid-first round pick,” draft analyst Mel Kiper Jr. said of Johnson during ESPN’s broadcast. “A Sidney Rice, a Charles Johnson, a Dwayne Jarrett, these underclassmen better re-evaluate when they decide to come out early.” I hope that CMR will save this statement and show it to all Jrs. in the future who consider coming out early. Some ARE ready but as we’ve seen in the last couple of years a lot are not ready.

By Cuz

April 29, 2007 1:15 PM | Link to this

Yeah Buck but then you have a Quentin Moses who if he had left after his Junior year may have gone in the first round, certainly higher than his third round selection.

By Gen Neyland

April 29, 2007 1:19 PM | Link to this

War Eagle

Mysteriously MIA in the NFL draft to date are Alleybammey Red Elephants. Please explain from an Auburn point of view…I could use a chuckle…

Buck Cochran

There is no such thing as a squeaky clean football program ( maybe Ivy Leauge or Military Academy’s ). Just not gonna be. All of them have a turn at notoriety. I personally feel the need to have solid discipline in the athletic depts. After all, recruiters and coaches tell the kids parents they’ll look after them and that includes some tough love dealt…

By MadMerf

April 29, 2007 1:45 PM | Link to this

Buck,

Predictions, rankings, etc, of a player can change drastically from year to year. We all hate to see players leave early, but looking at the flip-side of this logic, Moses was a sure-fire first rounder last year at this time. His performance faded with the team’s, and Johnson’s production rose as Moses was absorbing most of the attention from OCs. As it turns out, Moses is probably better than most people think right now and Johnson may be a bit overrated, although I predict both will have successful pro careers.

It is the fly-by-night pro scouts who are misleading the prospects into thinking they’re better than they really are, and more and more of them (agents) are competing to pull the kids away from college.

Thanks to Moses for returning to school and leading our team, its an experience you can’t get get back once you leave. Does anyone remember Richard Tardits? He was quoted as saying he would gladly trade his four year pro career for one more (senior) season in Athens. You can bet there are many guys out there that wish the same.

By MadMerf

April 29, 2007 1:50 PM | Link to this

Cuz,

You beat me to that analysis, just proves that I need to type faster and spend less time thinking about other subjects (which I deleted anyway).

By Buck Cochran in the NW

April 29, 2007 2:13 PM | Link to this

Guys all I said was that they should be careful before they jump. I do thingk that jumping after their Jr. year can be good. Each case is so different.

By War Eagle

April 29, 2007 3:11 PM | Link to this

Gen, I think Alabama A&M has more draft selections than Bammer. I doubt if MIA will ever draft a Red Elephant again, just a few HARD feelings.Mike Shula was a bad hire as the previous four. Bamma thinks they can fill their stadium every game and WIN. They will struggle with “Suitcase” Saban because his recruiting will not be as effective as LSU> I wish UGA would recruit more in Alabama, Auburn get their share out of Georgia. Alabama and Tenn does not have the high school football as GA. CMR relies on Georgia and does very well, while Auburn does very well in Florida and Louisana. Tenn is a Nationwide recruiting machine, how do they get all those leads?? PS, Bammer might do pretty good in the draft since they are going on the 200th picks.

By BadgerDawg

April 29, 2007 4:58 PM | Link to this

BuLLGator math: 7 is 50% of 11:

The 11 First Round Selections this season from The SEC is the most of any conference.

The Big Ten (11) only had 7 First Round Selections (half the SEC’s).

Oh well, I knew he was a sidewalk alum, this just confirmed he’s either that or a liberal arts major who can’t add once the fingers are used up.

BuLLGatorism #1: talk about your team, but when you have nothing to talk about there, talk about your conference and secretly dream you’re a fan of another school in the conference. My school has no picks in the first two rounds, but all I can see from the clown who claims to follow my school’s athletics is this:

After the 1st Two Rounds of the NFL Draft, The SEC had 17 picks – the most by far of any conference and 4 more picks than the Big Ten (11) had had.

We had zero, which is one fewer than Yech and UNLV. Welcome back, BuLL, I thought being repeatedly outed ran you off. Glad to see your still not afraid to let facts get in the way of your 4AM postings.

By Cuz

April 29, 2007 5:07 PM | Link to this

Badger please don’t get #39 started. Can you even imagine this guy having any friends. I bypass any posting he makes, otherwise I would fall asleep from boredom.

By jCan

April 29, 2007 6:30 PM | Link to this

Get serious and send a message to others. Suspend him for a year at least.

By I-DOG

April 29, 2007 9:38 PM | Link to this

As predicted, Moses and Johnson went in the 3rd round (Moses a little higher than many thought).

No Dawgs in the first two rounds. When is the last time that happenend? The talent level was certainly down with the 06 Dags. With all those turnovers, penalties, and drops its kind of amazing we did as well as we did.

Other than TN, every game was close. I like our chances this coming year

By BuLLdawg

April 29, 2007 10:03 PM | Link to this

Once again, I must apologize to my bloGGing buDDies, War Eagle and Gen Neyland. Sometimes, I let my emotions and my enthusiasm for my beloved BuLLdawgs get the better of my self-control. As much as I love UGA and the Dawgs, I must acknowledge that not all other universities, football teams and fans are inherently evil and misguided. In fact, sometimes, even the Dawg players and coaches have oCCasionaLLy been guilty of, well, infractions. I am reminded of l’aFFaire des academiques de Mme. Jan Kemp; no one is perfect … not even my beloved Dawgs.

By DawgBite

April 30, 2007 7:26 AM | Link to this

Suspend him for a season. Get the point across to him and others that might think of following. After all, we are not so low on talent that we would miss him. Tech falls into that category, ie. playing Rueben Houston. They had to. We don’t.

By GaDawg01

April 30, 2007 8:05 AM | Link to this

As reported by today’s Red and Black, he has been suspended from the university for the remainder of this semester as well as the fall. Which means he will not be playing between the hedges in the fall or probably ever. http://media.www.redandblack.com/media/storage/paper871/news/2007/04/30/Sports/Hebron.Suspended.After.Second.Alcohol.Violation-2886919.shtml

By gdawginkalamazoo

April 30, 2007 9:34 AM | Link to this

GaDawg01, thanks for the link. The kid had less than 10 days to go on his first offense probation? Making a gun with this hand? Village Idiot was the bar? Sounds like he could now be the mascot for it. What a waste of a scholarship.

Anybody think Richt will hang out a scholarship for another two years? We might be able to get a decent kid who wants a degree and to play football.

That is one of my pet peeves about pro and college sports. For every Pacman Jones, Maurice Clarret, Rueben Houston, Trey Blackmon, Odell’s, C Henry’s, U of Miami team, all these troublemakers and rule breakers there is a Derek Jeter or other good guy out there to take their place but don’t get the opportunity to because we give these other clowns chance after chance after chance.

By Steve Spurrier '95

April 30, 2007 10:23 AM | Link to this

The best thing to do is call it day for the football program, and focus on badmitton and volleyball for those SEC titles, because I will begin to dominate you as I did at Florida and I cannot wait for Sanford Stadium to be changed to Spurrier Stadium to honor those 52 I hung on you in ‘95.

In addition, I just spoke with UF and they cannot wait to continue to the domination for the next 10-12 years. Heck, there is not limit.

Now that is what I call SWEET!

By Steve Spurrier '95

April 30, 2007 10:23 AM | Link to this

Wow!! Tennessee sure came close to tying or breaking my record in 2006:

http://www.sicemdawgs.com/football/sched/fbsch_06.php

By Steve Spurrier '95

April 30, 2007 10:50 AM | Link to this

How to quiet a UGA fan:

1. Ask about their national titles, or lack thereof (1)

2. Ask how many times they have beaten the Gators in the last 17 years? (2)

3. Ask how many SEC titles they have in the last 80 years? (12)

4. Ask why UGA just cannot win the big ones? (Loss to UT, VAndy, UF and UK in 2006)

5. Ask why the continue to harp in their membership in the SEC (Soft and Easy Conference)?

Keep this handy for Sep-2007, and we will wait and see what these folks have to say after they drop the opener to OSU (Big 12)

By gdawginkalamazoo

April 30, 2007 10:52 AM | Link to this

Anybody see the sideline note about Reggie Ball trying out for the Lions as WR? CJ just can’t shake that clown. LMAO!

By Scott Worner

April 30, 2007 11:21 AM | Link to this

Amen on that one gdawginkalamazoo…Reggie is like a bad rash that won’t go away.

I think someone say Reggie warming up for GT the other day at Turner Field.

By War Eagle

April 30, 2007 12:23 PM | Link to this

Damn, did BuLLdawg really post that apology, if so thanks and i accept your statement. He could not be bad dude being a loyal UGA fan. I never met but one GA fan I didnt like and he was the SOB of SOBs. If I can like Robert and auburnsux, I can like any dawg fan as long as you don`t kick our butt like last year….

By Buck Cochran in the NW

April 30, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this

Kalamazoo, isn’t that what snellville dawg said and I repeated about his punishment?

By Gen Neyland

April 30, 2007 12:44 PM | Link to this

War Eagle

I believe that was an imPOSTer…The real BuLLdawg doesn’t have an apology in his bones…When he’s wrong, he just fades away…See where a Red Elephant was chosen 4,012th in this years draft..? I just knew their equipment mgr was going big time…

By mark

April 30, 2007 12:54 PM | Link to this

Altamaha, and followers- your responses just further prove my theory. During a game, when people ask such questions as “how could they run that play,” “what was he thinking?” you calmly answer with “they ran that play because they thought it would work at that particular time,” and “he’s the head coach of a Div I program, he’s not an idiot.” You are correct though, that is an opinion, no matter how boring. Chip could’ve answered his own question with your response and saved everybody the time/effort of responding. “I think, we should leave it up to the people who’s responsibility it is.” WOW!! Ya’ll may not like Bulldawg with his lengthy posts but at least he gets p** off when we play like sh*t and vents his own thoughts of what we should do (just like everybody, not under the assumption that MR reads these posts and will take our advice). I have neither the time nor care to research archived blogs of you and others in here using the argument “coach knows more, we’ll be ok.” I’m sure if Bulldawg got bored one day he could come up with something.

Should CMR redshirt Stafford? ALtamaha’s probable response: I think MR will do whatever he thinks is best for the program. WOW!! Don’t hurt your brain coming up with that one!!

By gdawginkalamazoo

April 30, 2007 1:15 PM | Link to this

Yeah Buck, but I thought it was just speculation at that point because the university hadn’t handed down its punishment yet. I guess it doesn’t matter what Richt does because the kid can’t suit up until 2008 if at all. lot of nice days to go drinking for a year and a half. Heck the kid couldn’t wait for 10 days till the first probation went away.

General wasn’t that kids name Gump Jr?

By Cuz

April 30, 2007 1:38 PM | Link to this

Did they ever retire Forrest Gumps jersey at the University of Alabama?

By Buck Cochran in the NW

April 30, 2007 1:47 PM | Link to this

Look out Mark, you’ll be acused of putting words in Altahama’s mouth that he didn’t say……..Kalamazoo, he went to the rule book just to make sure that’s why I repeated it.

By godawg

April 30, 2007 1:48 PM | Link to this

No. They hired him as their new coach. ;-)

By gdawginkalamazoo

April 30, 2007 1:55 PM | Link to this

Cuz, don’t know but they are going retire #42 though. That is a tribute to the 42 cents each those fans gave away at the A-Day game for charity.

By dawgfacedboy

April 30, 2007 1:56 PM | Link to this

Did I miss something or wasn’t Charles Johnson supposed to be taken possibly in the late 1st round or at least in the 2nd? His agent was quoted as saying they are thinking 15th, 18th or 22nd pick?!?! WAY OFF ON THAT ONE BUDDY!! You won’t convince me that if he knew that he was going to be a late 3rd round pick he would’ve gone! I bet he’s wishing he stayed around for his last year now! Did Ware get drafted?

By gdawginkalamazoo

April 30, 2007 2:02 PM | Link to this

Buck, I know I referenced it above also. HOWEVER, I don’t think the universtity had made a final determination until this morning. Rules are sometimes bent/changed depending on the circumstances and I don’t think I had I read any details about the incident unitl gadawg01 posted the link this morning.

By gdawginkalamazoo

April 30, 2007 2:13 PM | Link to this

dawgfaceboy, from my followings on the draft he was initially going mid to late first round for the longest time then they had all the pro days, team workouts and the combine. He dropped to the second round on a lot of the later mock drafts then draft day happened. Must have been something during those workouts that caused him to drop. I am with you on that. I bet he wouldn’t have gone if he had even thought of being a third rounder. He dropped millions. Hopefully he can recoup when he proves himself. Same with Moses.

By Cuz

April 30, 2007 2:16 PM | Link to this

Buck we all knew the University rules. We were just waiting to see if they would take a lighter sentence because the kid can play sports with some degree of athleticism. Twice in 10 days, I would rather him don some other color than Red and Black. Looks like he will get that opportunity.

By Cuz

April 30, 2007 2:19 PM | Link to this

Look it up. I said when Hebron was a junior in high school that if he came to UGA and got caught twice with alcohol possesion in ten days then he should be made Mike Adams chaueffer.

By gdawginkalamazoo

April 30, 2007 2:23 PM | Link to this

Thanks Cuz, that was the point I was trying to make regarding the suspension.

And Cuz I looked up your prediction, you said pool boy.

By dawfacedboy

April 30, 2007 2:23 PM | Link to this

Danny Ware? Drafted? Invited somewhere?

By gdawginkalamazoo

April 30, 2007 2:28 PM | Link to this

Ware, undrafted. Haven’t heard of any invites yet. If I took a wild guess I would say NE or Denver. Those guys know the value of a good dawg.

By Cuz

April 30, 2007 2:50 PM | Link to this

Pool boy. I must of been thinking of Odell Thurman being Adam’s chaueffer.

By JW

April 30, 2007 2:53 PM | Link to this

Spurrier would just make him miss the Spring and then reinstate him. I guess that is why he has won a national title!!!!

By Buck Cochran in the NW

April 30, 2007 3:18 PM | Link to this

I just wonder why they made the rules tougher between the two incidents. Anyone know?

By godawg

April 30, 2007 3:22 PM | Link to this

Cuz, I think you were thinking of Marquis Elmore….

By RxDawg

April 30, 2007 4:38 PM | Link to this

Amen Winston, Amen

By AltamahaDawg

April 30, 2007 5:24 PM | Link to this

Mark you are correct, I do reserve my animation for the times in the game when we actually do well. I find that’s a lot more fun and interesting to those around me. And you have no idea who or what I critisize in private. I choose not to come off like an egotistical complainer in here. Frankly that just lackes any sort of originality. Again thats a pretty long line in a nameless, faceless sports blog. I take it you sit and wait for things to go wrong. Appearantly thats your idea of fun. So I stand and cheer, dont scream at the game when something isnt perfect, thats fun to me. You sit and sulk and hope there is yet another opportunity to try to convince everyone around you how smart you are because you can actually see a play didnt work. I bet you are 100% right on that. So is the entire stadium. Now I’d bet 20 dollars per occurance you have no idea why it didnt or what the rationale was for attempting those plays, or remotely what they should have done. See to me thats boring, but to each his own. Its boring and simpleminded. If you will look back, you’ll notice I only go on the offensive in here, when I beleive somebody has thier facts wrong. Again I dare you for the third time, quote me ever saying that Coach MarK Richt was perfect and anyone who disagree, deserves my wrath. But appearantly you CANNOT allow anyone to take the stand that coaches coach better than fans. Appearantly my optimism and upside is not appealling to you. Fine, go the he77 away from me. Since you can’t seem to leave this alone, let me just say, nothing I have ever heard you say in here gives me one shread of belief that you know enough about what happens to be qualified to critisize play selection. Is that opinionated enough for you? I suppose way back when, I use to bytch more, and not understand about the player on the other side of the field don’t always doing what we wanted them to do,(or gasp, sometimes out guys dont do what that are supposed to do) but frankly I grew up. I’m going to assume since you are so into blasting out to create a glorious experience for everyone around you, we can thank you for a number of those Booos last year. Fun, Interesting. Last thing, it really doesnt tax anyones noodle to sit and retroactly provide your comments and wisdom , AFTER the play is over. In case you havent figured it out, about 1/3 of all plays dont really work too well, its part of the game, but yes, I do beleive that the professional coaches were better equiped to figure out which one might. Appearantly you just dont realize your limitations yet. It take a few year. Frankly I think you are just still sore because I totally called you on the KY game analysis and this is the best youn can come up with. If you dont have the “time” to get your facts right, by all means just regurgitate whatever you read in here and call that your opinion.

By Buck Cochran in the NW

April 30, 2007 5:25 PM | Link to this

I’ll say again, if I were him I’d consider transfering to a top ranked Div. 2-A school so he can play for 3 years.

By AltamahaDawg

April 30, 2007 5:35 PM | Link to this

I guess you admitting I was completely correct about Hebron, now that the smoke cleared, is a bit too much to ask?

By Lee

April 30, 2007 6:38 PM | Link to this

Somebody just doesn’t get it. I can understand one “oh ##” but two? Its obvious he didn’t get the message the first time around the block. Don’t suspend Hebron & Smith for six games that too easy. Cashier them off the team and into Georgia Military College for a year and let them see how good they’ve got it at UGA!

By SamoanDawg

May 1, 2007 8:32 AM | Link to this

Dadgumit Hebron, you broke my heart brah…. I hope you don’t walk out like “TKO” Kerney did. But I do hope you straightened out and walk the line.

By mark

May 1, 2007 9:56 AM | Link to this

Your ego and your need to be right is even more than I thought! How were you “completely correct” about Hebron?!?!?! The only opinion you offered on the subject was “I think we just need to let the folks who responsibility it is to handle such matters, do their job.” That is simply stating the obvious on an opion oriented blog. That’s all you do on everyone of these blogs. The writers on these blogs pick a topic for us to debate and get good banter going back and forth, and they want us to throw out our own ideas and opinions. You simply state obvious facts that take all the fun out of good ol’ fashioned arguing and throwing ideas out, etc. By doing this you can never be wrong. Which we all know you hate being. I’ve sat in here and listened to you spread your wisdom and it’s nothing but obvious, stick in the mud, crap! Telling me that the coach knows more than me is obvious. Telling me that the coach’s have a gameplan and they will call the plays they think will work is obvious. Who can debate the simple statement that the coach knows more than me? DUH!!! The President knows more than me, that doesn’t mean that I don’t disagree with some of the things he does and offer my own opinions. That doesn’t make me wrong, or out of line for questioning his reasoning. My dad knows more than me but that doesn’t mean I don’t think that some of the stuff he does is dumb. By your argument, everyone who knows more than you is not open for criticism. My original post said that this would be a very boring blog if everyone took your approach. Question……… Responses: CMR will do whatever he feels is in the best interest of the program and because he is the coach and we are not there should be no need to criticize him because if we know so much we would be the coach. THere’s nothing wrong with questioning those who know more.

By AltamahaDawg

May 1, 2007 10:25 AM | Link to this

I fail to see you point.

By AltamahaDawg

May 1, 2007 10:26 AM | Link to this

But I do like how you duck anything relavant and simple restate your same complaint 3 times.

By AltamahaDawg

May 1, 2007 10:40 AM | Link to this

There is something wrong with questioning those that know more than you IF you have no idea in the world what you are talking about. being opinionated for the sake of saying somethihg, doesnt make you wise, or interesting. BTW, show me where the rules of this blog are simply to pull some opinion our of your butt and ignore anything factual. Personally I find it more interesting if actual information about UGA is passed around in here. I know that bores you. Despite your mandate, its not just a bytching forum. And I’ve noticed that even though you can’t stand by brand of bloggin, you wouldn’t debate me on a real topic, with real facts, you save your soul. Better to just insult my personality huh. Thats real clever “dude”. How about this, I continue to express what I think is obvious facts, you continue complain and call that an opinion, and we can just stay at oposite corners.

By shane

May 1, 2007 2:29 PM | Link to this

I hate this for hebron and uga.i wonder if the young man realizes how serious this situation is and how it could affect the rest of his life.the nfl is trying to send a message about bad behavior of the field,so even if he gets a chance to play at uga and does well on the field,off-field hi-jinks could cause him to slip from a first day draft choice to a second day,or possibly free agent, thereby costing him millions.cmr must get his attention now,not only because he represents all uga fans and the state of ga,but for his own good.star football players are celebrated athletes and treated like kings,BUT,with their position comes a responsbility to the school,the fans and the whole state of ga. they must be taught this concept from their first day on campus,that goes for tech students too.

By altamahadawgimpersonator

May 1, 2007 3:34 PM | Link to this

Shane- while most people would say that is well thought out opinion and you make good points, I on the other hand am going to have to disagree. You have no factual information to back up these theories of yours. Since you are not a coach or a professional draft analyst you have no reason to think you know what your talking about concerning his college or pro career. I’m sure CMR will discipline him appropriately and fair but again this is not for you to decide. Please keep your factless points to yourself. If you have no hard evidence or basis for your claims i’d appreciate you not wasting our time.

By mark

May 1, 2007 3:43 PM | Link to this

How’d I do? I almost forgot though. When you said that you “called me on the KY game analysis” I’m not sure what you mean. I read what you wrote about that game and you were right on. Ints,fumbles, and lack of a kicking game killed us. Maybe in all his wisdom “the big man upstairs” decided to create more than one person named Mark, it’s a fairly common name. Hey, I too can state obvious facts! Wait let me try another one, THERE’S NO NEED IN DEBATING WHO WILL START THE FIRST GAME BECAUSE MR WILL PUT THE PLAYERS WHO HE FEELS GIVES US THE BEST CHANCE TO WIN ON THE FIELD!!! WOW!! I FEEL SMARTER ALREADY!!!!

By AltamahaDawg

May 1, 2007 4:18 PM | Link to this

mark, my appologies. I did look that up and it was NOT you on the KY game. Sounds like you and I agree on what went wrong there. I had thought you choose to call me out on the Hebron statement, which I still don’t understand why you took offence to, because you were cheesed about something ealier. But appearantly you just decided to make an unprovoced attack on my style out of the blue. Is that the pretty much the deal? Anytime you have an actual topic, Id be glad to banter. This one however has run its cource.

By AltamahaDawg

May 1, 2007 4:53 PM | Link to this

Oh and for the record, (if you have calmed down enough to listen to reason)I NEVER said Coach Richt would discipline Hebron correctly or exactly right. What I did say is that its really out of his hands and pointless to speculate, (about number of games or gassers) since the university and legal issue “those whos job it is to deal with it” would superceed, which is exactly the case. Obviously that’s why he didn’t comment. He shoudln’t have. My opionion is that it was never was a football issue to begin with. If its just football , then why would it matter what he did off the field. The issue is that he embarassed the University he represents (on the football team in his case), but its a university issue. Coach only extends scholarship on behalf of the university, and the university expect a certaion degree of charcter in return for it. Off campus issues are the responsibilities of the university first and then if the coach wants to tack on, thats his perogative. But this isnt talking back to a coach, or missing practise, its breaking the law, and the only possible answer to what the coach should do,is obviously see what the kids status, irrespective to football is going to be first.. If you had simply asked me to clerify, we could have avoided this whole discussion. In the future if you dont like what I say, either ask me to explain, or debate me on the actual issue, or just ignore it. Attacking somebody on thier disposition, isnt really the point of a sports blog. I dont recall Chip asking that question.

By shane

May 2, 2007 11:32 AM | Link to this

Mark,you want facts? are you a dawg fan?if so you must have heard of odell thurman.he was picked to go in the first round by many,but according to experts slipped because of off field behavior.how many millions of dollars did he lose in his signing bonus?he lead the bengals in tackles his first year, but what happened last year?did you watch this years nfl draft?there was a player the bengals wanted but were unable to draft because they are in hot water with the league because of OFF field incidents with their team. read the papers,its no secret that the nfl is unhappy with the numerous arrests and etc. involving players.what ever happened to marcus vick by the way?all the potential in the world,should have been a great qb. character issues do matter!a gm that is going to spend 20 million AND UP ON a first round draft choice doesn’t want to waste it on a guy who isn’t on the field because of a league suspension!

By mark

May 2, 2007 1:02 PM | Link to this

Easy Shane- you obviously didn’t get the joke. I was making fun of Altamaha,not you. That’s why I posted as AltamahaDawgImpersonator. I was “impersonating” him. I was one of the ones I mentioned who thought your opinion was well thought out and you made good points. Still, you did back everything up with facts, I still agree with you.

By dawgfacedboy

May 2, 2007 1:11 PM | Link to this

Geeeez altamaha- did you sh*t in somemone’s cereal???? WOW!

Anyway, I know this is a UGA blog but this has been bugging me. I will assume that most of here root for the Falcons on Sundays (that is if we root for the dawgs on Saturdays). Can anyone explain to me why we didn’t draft Amobi Okoye from Louisville? His college coach didn’t draft him, why? He’s only 19 for cryin out loud!!!! THink how much this kid could learn by the time he’s the noraml age of a rookie!!! Has anybody heard anything? Sorry for not commenting on Hebron, but frankly I don’t care what happens to him. From what i’ve heard he’s got to be suspende for two subsequent semesters, summer not included, which would mean he won’t be playing this fall. Did I understand that right?

By shane

May 2, 2007 2:55 PM | Link to this

you are right mark,i didn’t see the joke,i reacted out of emotion,sooo sorry.i am just an older guy that raised two daughters and thanks God they didn’t get hooked on drugs or pregnant or killed in an accident. i hate to see young people with bright futures throw it all away.i have seen that too often in my 58 years.as to the falcons i have no clue about their draft choices,and i have kept up with them since the sixtys.someone smarter than i will have to answer that.how ‘bout it mark?

By mark

May 3, 2007 9:10 AM | Link to this

No worries shane! It’s all good. I don’t know about the draft. It seems like it’s so “hit or miss” with that thing! 6th round picks become pro bowlers and 1st round picks become a bust, it happens every year. Who knows?

By shane

May 3, 2007 11:39 AM | Link to this

lewis grizzard once wrote a piece titled “has anyone seen this man”,it was about falcons first round draft choices that hadn’t been heard from since.i know the draft is hit and miss,but they sure seem to miss a lot.i remember when they passed on hines ward for a guy named germany,i hadn’t heard of him before and he was out of the league in a couple of years. ther are many more examples,but that one comes to mind.