UGA

By baloney

February 20, 2007 04:03 PM | Link to this

Chip, it still is a longshot that UGA will get in.

By The Truth

February 20, 2007 04:14 PM | Link to this

Explain to me exactly how you figure it’s a longshot that UGA will get in? Provide some educated reasoning instead of just spouting off…

By baloney

February 20, 2007 04:21 PM | Link to this

They have too few quality wins.One of their better players is hurt. The season is still a few games from being over. UGA certainly can lose at least half their remaining games. If that happens then they will have to have a good showing at the SEC tourney. Then of course it comes down to them being a low seed and the possibility of them having to go to the west for the first round. I think the selection committee will look at how well they have drawn at smegma coliseum and deem them unworthy of a trip afar. Thus if they aren’t good enough to play in a close region I think they get snubbed.

By Hairy Dawg

February 20, 2007 04:30 PM | Link to this

Barnhart has Georgia Tech in there, but they’re going to have a tough time just finishing 7-9 in the ACC (Virginia, UNC and BC left to play and they’re 5-7 in the conference right now). Clemson has is 5-7 in the ACC (with Duke, BC, and Va. Tech left) and Barnhart has them in. Of course, he also lists Florida State as being “in” (5-8 in the ACC), but he doesn’t list them in the actual field.

I think Tony should stick with football.

Anyway, I think the SEC will get six or seven in. The Dawgs just have to keep winning. A sweep of the Mississippi schools would be really big. The Dawgs owe Tennessee. As for Kentucky, well, it’ll be Senior Night. We can probably write that off right now. Winning three of four now would put the Dawgs at 10-6 in the conference. They’d be a lock at 10-6. If they split the last four games, they’ll probably have to do some work in the SEC Tournament.

By David

February 20, 2007 04:30 PM | Link to this

baloney-

This isn’t college football. Attendance numbers are irrelevant.

By Wozzo the Wonder Dog

February 20, 2007 04:33 PM | Link to this

Really, the ACC is the Notre Dame of basketball (and I don’t mean that as a compliment). In fairness, the ACC deserves that distinction more than Notre Dame, though. It almost seems like LSU beat Duke’s spirit in the tournament last year and Duke hasn’t been the same since (maybe LSU hasn’t, either though). The ACC has a long reputation of good basketball and they’re riding that horse.

I hope Coach Felton is right about the Selection Committee (but we’ve seen them do things that seemed dumb but turned out okay — and things that seemed dumb and turned out dumb).

I wonder if Vandy’s win over FL will serve as a wakeup call for the NCAA’s.

Ole Miss game is HUGE! Go Dawgs!

By rob

February 20, 2007 04:46 PM | Link to this

Hey Chip, why don’t you ask Barnhart why the SEC isn’t getting respect? He’s one of your own and he’s one of the media only giving the SEC 5 spots. If UGA splits their last 4, going 9-7 in conference, there’s no way they don’t get in.

I agree with the previous poster, Barnhart should stick to football.

By Ramble ON!

February 20, 2007 05:22 PM | Link to this

wwwwhhhhhaaaahhhhh Felton is catching on real quick at Cry Baby University. The SEC stinks with the exception to your Daddy (UF and Vanderbilt).

You should pass out free pacifiers to get some fleabags to attend the games.

ACC Rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Deal with it mutts!!!!!!!!

By dawgfatha

February 20, 2007 05:56 PM | Link to this

How is it that all these Tech fans have time to post over here? Last I checked, they should all be washing cars or holding a bake sale to help keep their athletic department afloat.

By dawgy style

February 20, 2007 06:22 PM | Link to this

If UF and vandy are UGAs daddy does that make them GTs grandpa? im not sure where your going with that! but don’t forget the Buzzing bees only stink once then die !

By g-dawg

February 20, 2007 06:52 PM | Link to this

the dawgs have blown some games they should have won,western kentucky, g-tech and tenn.,win those three and there is no discussion we are in and a good seed. then take the ala. game that was stolen from us by the refs and we are a lock ! you gotta win the ones you are supposed to to get respect ! GO DAWGS!!

By Chip Towers

February 20, 2007 07:10 PM | Link to this

The facts are this: Georgia is 16-9. It has the third-best conference record in the SEC (7-5). It has four games left, two at home and two on the road. It will play at least one game in the SEC tournament. Its RPI is 51 and its strength of schedule is 22. All this data suggests the Dogs are very much “on the bubble.” As always when that is the case, they can play themselves in it or out of it… . Ramble On, I’m not sure what you mean regarding Vandy but, for what it’s worth, Georgia beat them by 13 in Athens and lost by five in Nashville.

By Greg

February 20, 2007 07:17 PM | Link to this

LET THE DAWGS IN THERE MAN!ALL OF THE PLAYERS ON THE TEAM SAID THEY WANT IN THERE!LET THEM IN!

By Red and Black

February 20, 2007 07:30 PM | Link to this

Chip- He was referring to Vandy’s football team. Don’t you cover the football team to? You should have known who he was talking about.

Ramble On- Your an IDIOT. 6-0 and your still talking crap.

By Brian

February 20, 2007 08:03 PM | Link to this

I love how Ohio State is ranked ahead of Florida in both of the most recent polls, yet each team has the exact same record, 24-3, and Florida beat Ohio State by 26 points in their head-to-head match up earlier this season. Does this make sense to any reasonable person? BTW, I am NOT a Florida fan, I actually despise them. I just think this is completely absurd

By g-dawg

February 20, 2007 08:11 PM | Link to this

but brian ;; THEY ARE THE GREAT ” BIG TEN ” that counts for 5 spots in the rankings right? ps.. i agree with your feelings on fla. LOL

By JimmyG

February 20, 2007 08:22 PM | Link to this

I agree with your comment about Ohio State being number one. Wisconsin has fewer losses and beat Ohio State also. ESPN loves Ohio State, and they are the biggest influence in sports. Ohio State has been on ESPN more than any other team this year so therefor they get ranked high to promote the network. It really doesn’t make sense, but the SEC got them in football and somebody will get them in basketball. As for UGA we need Wisconsin to win out, Vandy and Gonzaga to finish strong. 9 and 7 in conference should get the dogs in. But I say screw that, how about 11 and 5? Sounds good to me, I talked to Takais the other day and he said it sounded good to him too. The Dogs match up well with every team left on their schedule. What these “experts” don’t realize is that UGA already went thru the brutal stretch of games that all of the other SEC teams are in. Oh well, GO DAWGS

By pj

February 20, 2007 08:28 PM | Link to this

Felton hit in on the head when he said said “Georgia hasn’t been on the national conscience for a good bit of time. That might have something to do with it,”

The Gonzaga, Kentucky and Vandy wins are big, but alot of “quality losses” may help or hurt, I’m not sure…

So, besides Strength of Schedule, how does the fact that our losses are: 3 to top 5 teams, one to Vandy, one to UT and one to Bama (all currently IN the bubble), 2 middle of the road ACC teams (Clemson and Gt) and the bad Western Kentucky loss.

What do “quality losses” mean for our chances? How is that looked upon by the committee?

We need a quality road win, and tomorrow would be the one.

By Dawgs2007

February 20, 2007 08:29 PM | Link to this

Didn’t UGA lose to some nobody at the begining of the year? That loss will keep them away from twenty wins and doom the season.

By AltamahaDawg

February 20, 2007 08:35 PM | Link to this

Does anyone over the age of 12 actually say somebody “rules”?

By BadgerDawg

February 20, 2007 09:20 PM | Link to this

Alt, I disagree. If you’re 13-18,you write “rules.” If you’re under 13, you write “rulz.”

By Chip Towers

February 20, 2007 09:27 PM | Link to this

Actually pj, there is no such thing as a quality loss. According to the committee, a loss is a loss. They don’t take into account if you lost by 30 or 1. At least that’s what they say… . There are two games that are haunting Georgia now: The 70-67 loss to Western Kentucky in which it was still playing without Takais Brown and blew a 10-point lead in the last six minutes and the game at Alabama that they led by 20. Give ‘em one or the other or certainly both and we’re not havingthis conversation.

By pj

February 20, 2007 10:08 PM | Link to this

but alas we ARE having this conversation… so you’re telling me that the commitee will not even MENTION the fact that we played 3 games against Florida and Wisconson and were in all 3 games until 3 minutes left?

Poppycock.

I suppose when considering 90 or so teams, that is too much to ask.

The last ten games ARe criteria, and we’ve won 3 in a row, so winning 3 out of the last four should cement our place… one would assume.

By Dean

February 20, 2007 10:09 PM | Link to this

Enough of the whining and inferiority complex. Nine ACC teams are ranked in the top 46 of the RPI, according to the NCAA’s official release. The SEC is a wopping .0008 pts. ahead of the ACC in the avg. overall RPI. Sagrin ratings have the ACC as the best overall conference. All conferences get the shaft some years—> See FSU and Maryland in years past.

The SEC deserves their due but please, how can you knock the ACC? No other conference can boast the best NCAA winning percentage of any conference? I mean, since 1980 the ACC has placed a team in the Final Four in like 20 out of 25 times

By dawgs99

February 20, 2007 10:58 PM | Link to this

Fumigated and insect free-

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=135#S=135&F=1073&FIX=1

By jc_dawg

February 21, 2007 01:52 AM | Link to this

Most, but not all, sec teams with a 9-7 reg season record make it into the ncaa tournament.

I did some research and I found that in 2002, Ten went 9-7 in the conf and did not make the ncaa tourn. Interestingly, they lost there 1st game of the sec tourn to Aub that year.

Then you have to go back to 1995 when Ala went 9-7 in the conf and did not make it in. I could not find the info on how Ala did in the sec tourn that year. If anyone knows, I’d be real interested in what you find.

Basically…if you include the sec tournament, Ga needs 10 wins to get in. 9-7 and then an opening round loss in the sec tournament may not be good enough.

Bottom line….Ga needs to win at least 3 of there next 5 to get in.

By Reality

February 21, 2007 04:20 AM | Link to this

SEC What the nation thinks SEC = Snow white (FL) and the 11 dwarfs. Better than before when they only had one good team, Kentucky…. Wait a minute, maybe they are just a one team conference.

What SEC fans think SEC = ………………..F….o…..o…..t…..b…a…l….l good.

By AltamahaDawg

February 21, 2007 07:21 AM | Link to this

Badger, My mistake. Also I’m sorry that I insinuated that Ramble On was still a pre-teen. I know how those kids are sensitive about that once they hit 13.

By Matt

February 21, 2007 08:05 AM | Link to this

The problem GA has is the lack of a decent road win - they’re 3-6 on the road, with wins over Wake, Ark, and S. Carolina. That isn’t going to get them in if they’re on the bubble.

By 82DAWG

February 21, 2007 08:15 AM | Link to this

jc_dawg You are 100% right. I would take it one step further, however. UGA must win 2 of the next four AND win the first game of the SEC tournament. That gives us an 85% chance of an NCAA bid. Win 3 of the next 4 and a first round SEC loss and our chances drop to 50%. Anything less than that and its the Nobody’s Interested Tournament.

BTW, if UGA loses tonight at Oxford (where Ole Miss is 13-1 this year) our chances diminish greatly as we have to win 4 or our next 5 games. So if there is a MUST win game, tonight is it.

By Coach K

February 21, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this

The SEC fails to get respect, because other than UF coming out of the sky like a missle in the night, the ACC basically dominates national basketball titles.

When you think of college basketball, you think of UNC, Duke, Maryland, GT, Wake Forest, and NC State. Bottom line is the SEC has not won enough recent national titles to bring the attention of the tournament committee, thus the whining from Athens.

UF, Vandy and Kentucky are basically the only 3 programs making any SEC noise. Alabama rolls over every year, and Auburn football players run the steps during baseketball games.

Win some more consistent titles, then you have something to whine about; however, whining is expected from Athens, especially during football season.

By ncdawg

February 21, 2007 11:15 AM | Link to this

The ACC is legit so I don’t buy that whole Notre Dame comparison. I’m not saying the SEC isn’t legit though. The SEC is stronger this year than in recent ones. As for the Dawgs, it comes down to the next two games. Don’t overlook Miss. State and someone mentioned the 13-1 home record at Ole Miss. If you want a big road win, this would be it.

By Ramble ON!

February 21, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this

Coach K is brilliant, once again!

Good luck fleabags against those traditional dominate powerhouse schools from Miss.

Wins against them and Kennesaw State, how can they not let you in? And you beat an ACC Team (worst in the conference, but still!). Sure beats having to play those sorry out-of-conference teams like UCLA, Memphis, UCONN, & Purdue.

By UGAG SUX

February 21, 2007 01:48 PM | Link to this

Are you kidding me? Dawgfatha ought to read the paper or have someone explain it to him. GT is doing like alot of other schools in the seat fee per ticket instead of an annual donation. This should fix the problem. You need to read before putting your idiot foot in your inbred mouth. The last time I checked dawgy style, GT beat Uga in BBall. As for g-dawg, you blew the GT game like you blew the FL game. Not hardly. Uga led GT by 5 or 6 early and trailed by 5 @ the half only to tie the game and lose by 11. Uga led Fl by 9 points in the first half, trailed at the half and never led in the 2nd half. How is that blowing a game? The Bama loss was a game Uga blew. Bozo the wonder mutt compares the ACC to Notre Dame. Last year, the ACC only got 4 teams in and this was following the UNC national championship. The ACC does not get better treatment than the sec but once again, bozo makes a comment without doing his homework. Typical inbred redneck idiot. Bottom line is Uga will need to win 3 of 4 after losing @ Ole Miss tonight.

By ballen12

February 21, 2007 01:50 PM | Link to this

According to the RPI ratings, Georgia has played a tougher schedule than Tech. So what exaclty are you talking about Ramble On?

Purdue and UConn are total powerhouses this year too.

You also played Elon, Jackson St., Georgia St., Centenary, Troy, Winston Salem, and St. Francis of Pennsylvania. How do they not let you in? with that killer OOC schedule. You can’t just pick and choose the games you want to highlight. Now run along and play with your calculator.

By Atlanta Gator

February 21, 2007 01:57 PM | Link to this

Coach K & Ramble ON!——Actually, when I think of college basketball, I think of UCLA and Coach John Wooden and the ten championships that his Bruins teams won in 12 seasons (1964-1975). Point in fact, UCLA has won more championships (11) than the entire ACC has won since 1964 (9).

Furthermore, when drawing direct ACC vs. SEC comparisons over the last 12 seasons, the SEC has been represented in more NCAA championship finals than the ACC (SEC 7 vs ACC 6). In that same time span, SEC teams have won 4 championships (Arkansas, Kentucky & Florida), and ACC teams have won 3 (Duke, Maryland & North Carolina).

The real Coach K is an introspective and humble man, and who is never afraid to acknowledge the accomplishments of others; perhaps the two of you should live and blog by his example.

By Chip Towers

February 21, 2007 02:20 PM | Link to this

Thank you, Atlanta Gator. I’ve been traveling all morning and just got to my computer. But you took the words out of my mouth with the facts on the ACC and SEC. I’m not claiming to be a proponent of either but, since I cover the SEC, I’m inundated by their propaganda all the time and they will drown you in data about why their league has been just as good or better for a long time (remember how Arkansas and Kentucky were dominating things in the 1990s)… . Here’s some more food for thought — Georgia’s reward for earning the No. 3 seed from the East in the SEC tournament could be to get LSU in the first round. The bottom line is the bottom teams in the SEC are better than the ACC and any other league this year.

By Ramble ON!

February 21, 2007 02:43 PM | Link to this

Atlanta Gator last 12 years?…how about the last 10, or 20? I’m guessing you’re using 12 to make theses numbers work to serve your cause. OK so last year (pats on the back for you), Kentucky (no shocker), Ark.(Nolan Richardsons-cheater). Why not go back 20? We ACC people know the reason Nice try though, I’m sure the fleabags will never figure it out.

By Atlanta Gator

February 21, 2007 03:48 PM | Link to this

Ramble ON!——I’m not sure why you spend so much of your time insulting other AJC bloggers; your blog handle would seem to imply that you are a fan (if not an alumnus) of Georgia Tech. Good sportsmanship and good manners are indicia of a proper Southern upbringing; there is no reason to embarrass your mother … try being nice to a Dawg fan; they might surprise you and reciprocate.

As for my selection of the past 12 seasons (SEC 4W, 3L; ACC 3W, 2L), I was attempting to show recent trends in the NCAA finals. The trend of NCAA finals over the past 10 seasons is slightly more favorable to the ACC (3W, 2L) vs. the SEC (2W, 2L), but not exactly dominating, eh?

For the sake of completeness, I will concede that including the past 25 seasons is the “trend” most favorable to the ACC. (ACC teams played in 8 finals from 1981 to 1992, winning 5; no SEC team played in the finals during that same stretch.) However, the past 25 seasons is not really a “recent” trend, is it?

Since 1964 (the UCLA modern era), ten SEC teams have played in the finals (5W, 5L); during that same time, eighteen ACC teams have played in the finals (9W, 9L). I note that among those 18 ACC teams, only one was a Tech team (2004); eight of the 17 others were Duke teams, and 6 were UNC teams.

Before 1964 (ancient sports history), Kentucky played in 4 NCAA finals (4W, 0L); North Carolina played in 2 (1W, 1L). No other SEC or ACC schools were represented.

Of course, it is difficult to understand why any of these longer term trends extend vicarious conference bragging rights to a Tech fan, since Tech was still a member of the SEC until 1964, and only joined the ACC in 1978.

If you want to try to slice the trends any more favorably to the teams of Tech’s present sports conference, here is the link to CBS Sports’ tournament history page:

http://sportsline.com/collegebasketball/mayhem/history/yearbyyear

Enjoy.

By Ramble ON!

February 21, 2007 03:57 PM | Link to this

Atlanta Gator thanks Gator…I’ll try (you don’t have to bring my mom into it)

Easy for you to say, but think back to the Herschel Walker days (remember, “run linsdey run!”) how “nice” where they to you? I’m working on the “higher road thing” but this is a only a blog!

By hardcore

February 21, 2007 04:26 PM | Link to this

IF UGA WAS IN THE ACC…… WAT WOULD THERE RECORD BE? if they couldnt beat Ga Tech, how will theyt be able to survive Cameron Indoor and the Dean Dome? their overral record would be crappy!!!!!!!

By Big Dawg

February 21, 2007 05:11 PM | Link to this

Atlanta Gator once again some classy comments from you.

Ramble On as one who roots for GT when they are not playing GA. I still have a hard time not saying rude and inappropriate things back to those who post on the GA blog with Hatred and vitriol toward my Dawgs. I in fact would love to see GA and GT in the Big Dance and for both of them to make it to the championship game, but that probably won’t happen, but I can still hope.

By g-dawg

February 21, 2007 05:16 PM | Link to this

UGAG , U GAG ME ! whats with the attitude ? were just talkin b-ball. if uga was 24-0, MAN I WOULD BE TALKIN SOME BIG TRASH!! LOL !!!

By jerry dog

February 21, 2007 09:24 PM | Link to this

uga trails 50-35 in the second half, 3 points in 8 minutes. who are we kidding?

By jerry dog

February 21, 2007 09:35 PM | Link to this

two baskets in 14 minutes, keep shooting the 3’s, maybe we will lose by 25. This team has enough leadership to play better and shoot better than that.

By mark

February 21, 2007 10:46 PM | Link to this

SEC will get 6 bids at most although 5 is more likely. The West is not strong, it is mediocre. Dennis Felton is too good a coach to be stuck in Athens where he has no shot to get players to match his coaching skill. He is a good candidate for a serious basketball school, not one where bball is a break between football and Spring football. Begging doesn’t suit him-come on coach!

By Thomas Richard

February 24, 2007 11:03 PM | Link to this

Georgia will have the third best won lost record in its div. and the 5th overall and will be selected to play.