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AJC > Sports > UGA > Blog > Archives > 2007 > January > 11 > Entry
Dogs should play LB Bailey outside
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Allen Bailey wants to play linebacker at the next level. I just don’t see it happening. Not at Georgia, anyway.
The Bulldogs have already experimented with bigger linebackers (Brandon Miller) and that has not gotten them great results. It has become obvious Miller is better suited for defensive end, and that is where Georgia wants him to play next season.
Plus, Georgia has recruited a slew of smaller faster linebackers like Akeem Hebron. OK, having said all that, Bailey is exceptionally fast for his size (6 feet 3, 260).
But middle linebacker should be the spot for Darius Dewberry or Marcus Washington in the coming seasons and it seems as if Bailey would be wasted there when his true potential is at the end spot.
Even Dewberry is 40 pounds lighter than Bailey. (Washington, by the way, is hurt so don’t count on him for next season.)
Now I am not saying Bailey is a bad middle linebacker. I watched him closely at the U.S. Army All-American Bowl and the guy can really move sideline to sideline. But he is only going to get bigger under Georgia’s strength and conditioning program. So why not just start him on the outside and let him grow into the position?




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Comments
By Tom
January 11, 2007 02:38 PM | Link to this
Agree, I saw him run sideline to sideline also …. that is really all he did … don’t believe he made any contact outside of the tackles …. he is best suited to play DE …
By honest_abe
January 11, 2007 02:44 PM | Link to this
carter or anyone: who is projected to play both defensive end spots next year??
By JB
January 11, 2007 02:54 PM | Link to this
Do any of you see any starters on the 2006 team losing out to anyone new coming in, ala Juco’s or redshirts ?
By gdawginkalamazoo
January 11, 2007 03:00 PM | Link to this
good question Abe. I don’t know. It seems though that we have a ton of talent at LB already. 6-3 260 does sound more like a DE to me. What is Bailey’s speed like? If he gets bulked up under our program can you imagine the damage he could do at DE. Sounds like another UGA prime time NFL DE ala, Stroud, Seymour, Pollack, Geathers, etc. Those guys haven’t done too bad.
However, if the kid is quick enough to play LB in the middle let him sit there and stop some of those running offenses we have problems with. Maybe crack Tebow next year on that QB draw.
By Sic 'em
January 11, 2007 03:11 PM | Link to this
Only if Tra Battle or Matrez Milner were returning.
By austindog
January 11, 2007 03:24 PM | Link to this
Carter Strickland wants to become a writer. I just don’t see it happening. Not at the ajc anyway.
He should just get a job shoveling at the zoo and grow into the position.
By godawg
January 11, 2007 03:33 PM | Link to this
Dawgs currently have Roderick Battle RFr.; Andy Gully RFr.; Marcus Howard Jr.; Jeremy Lomax So.; & Casey Nikels Fr.listed at the DE position. Howard and Lomax are smallish at 222 and 230 lbs. I’ve heard good things about Battle but don’t know much about the others. We’re young and will need someone to step up.
By Dawg360
January 11, 2007 03:45 PM | Link to this
We also have Kiante Tripp, Brandon Wood although there is talk of moving to DE, Demarcus Dobbs, Michael Lemon, and Jarius Wynn. We have tons of unproven talent at the position and should be in great shape. I hope to see Miller in the mix as well as he has not done anything at LB.
By don't matter
January 11, 2007 03:45 PM | Link to this
**austindog………that is funny as all get out……funny
By Buck Cochran in the NW
January 11, 2007 03:47 PM | Link to this
I think the world would continue to turn if MR and WM let him have a shot playing out side line backer to see if he can cut it. Who knows, he could end up switching back and forth and messing up a lot of “D’s” because they wouldn’t know for sure where he would be on the field or what he was going to do. A little creativity on the “D”?
By gator the dog catcher
January 11, 2007 03:58 PM | Link to this
That article will sure help UGAY land Bailey! UGAY needs LBers more than they need DL’s. Rodney Garner has done a good job of overloading his postition (DL) as a recruiting coordinator.
By ConyersDawg
January 11, 2007 04:02 PM | Link to this
Most of the guys on the dawgboards believe Jaruis Wynn and Rod. Battle will win the DE positions with Br. Wood and M. Howard playing a lot. I think K. Tripp can make an impact. I like the Chavis kid too if we land him. Real fast and motivated. Chavis beat out Cl. Geathers at Hargrave as a true Senior in in high school.
I think everyone is hoping for Miller to go DE this spring. Fabris is about as good as they come teaching the DE position.
Let us not forget that the nfl loves fast big LB’s. Carter, Bailey is a senior with no college coaching at the LB position. Once he learns to use his hands and get off blocks he is going to be amazing.
BTW Carter, he was coming off an injury to the back this year, Bailey is a whole lot better then what you saw.
By Wozzo the Wonder Dog
January 11, 2007 04:05 PM | Link to this
OUTIDE? Well, O-tay. If you ay o.
By Me
January 11, 2007 04:06 PM | Link to this
Carter - what the hell does “outide” mean?
By Bob
January 11, 2007 04:06 PM | Link to this
Does anyone know if Carter is black or white?
By mcdawg
January 11, 2007 04:09 PM | Link to this
let the coaches decide
By BirdDawg
January 11, 2007 04:18 PM | Link to this
Who cares what color Carter is?
That shouldn’t matter.
When you suck, you suck no matter what color you are. Look at Terence Moore. He sucks. Would it matter if he were a different color? No, he’d still suck if he were green (Sorry Kermit, we know it’s not easy).
So, in retrospect, Carter would still suck no matter his gender, race, or creed.
By AUSTIN
January 11, 2007 04:36 PM | Link to this
TURDDAWG RETURNS.
I guess the more you use the word “sucks” or “suck” in a paragraph, the more justified you are in bashing a person for a typo.
There are some MORONS on these blogs. Don’t they have a filter for that?
By honest_abe
January 11, 2007 04:36 PM | Link to this
thanks for the info fellas. seems like we got some talent, but no stud about to break out… hopefully i’m wrong… everything else about the d IMO looks like it’s going to be very good.
By ReasonableDawg
January 11, 2007 04:39 PM | Link to this
How is CS’s color relevant. That just screams racist to ask a question like that. We don’t need racism on this blog. We get enough ignorant post already. BTW, I would also like to see B Miller play on the end. It is probably his best shot at being a first day draft pick, because LB has not went as well as us Dawg fans would have hoped.
By godawg
January 11, 2007 04:46 PM | Link to this
I think the color comment was a Buckwheat joke relating to Carter’s typo in his headline. These situations could be avoided if he ever bothered to use spellcheck, but he has stated before that he has little time and no concern for the blog or its content, so don’t hold your breath.
btw: I agree that we don’t need racism on the blog or anywhere else. The Buckwheat thing is pretty funny though. Eddie Murphy was great at it on SNL.
By Dawgtime
January 11, 2007 04:55 PM | Link to this
I have coached football and I can tell you that the key to defense is getting a scheme that matches the best 11 players. Can Allen Bailey play LB at UGA? Yes! Obvious the clown writing this blog is trying to sway this kid. If you look at UGA’s personel, you will see that they are better equiped for a 34 defense or 3 down linemen and 4 linebackers. In a 34, you need a bull at NT (Jeff Owens), a strongside DE that can control a side of the line with size and quickness by dominating the A and B gaps (Kade Weston), and a quick penetrator on the weakside (the Wynn kid from JUCO). For a 34 to work, you need dominant OLB’s with size and speed. Quentin Moses will be an OLB in the pros that is his natural position. Next season the outside rush backers should be Brandon Miller, Marcus Howard, or Dannell Ellerbe. Both are big and quick. They can rush or back off in coverage. The MLB’s should be Marcus Washington if healthy, Darius Dewberry, that kid is a future star, or Rennie Curran, I love that kid’s determination. In a 34, Allen Bailey would make a great OLB. You need the size to jam TE, fight off tackles, and take on FB and the speed to cover. He can do all of those. I would love to see him in a few year playing a stand up OLB position for the Dawgs. Folks, look at the OLB for the Cowboys (DeMarcus Ware and Greg Ellis) Ware is around 6’4 260 and Ellis is 6’4 275. Watch the plays that created constant pressure during the bowl game against VT. It was out of the 34. We need to constantly shift fronts from a 34 to a 43, to a split 60 or 52 front. Maybe Coach Martinez will continue to change up the fronts. It confuses defenses.
By godawg
January 11, 2007 05:12 PM | Link to this
Dawgtime, do you need a job?
By Cuz
January 11, 2007 05:28 PM | Link to this
Carter you Ignorant Slut. Who made you the next coaching genius ala CHAN the Man, Alah bless his name. You are a subpar blog writer. If I had my way, we would have either Chip Towers or the Caveman from the Geico commercial as the blog topic writer. Both a definate improvement. Stick to articles, you seem to have some talent there compared to none here.
By Scooter11
January 11, 2007 05:33 PM | Link to this
Can’t imagine Bailey developing any more than he already is, size-wise. I’ve seen a picture of him without his shirt, and (I’m not obssessing, mind you) good gawdalmighty! And one heck of a wingspan.
By RxDawg
January 11, 2007 06:46 PM | Link to this
Hmmmm, did I miss something? Did the Bailey kid commit to us? Also, in regards to B. Miller, sometimes not hearing a defensive players name a lot is not a bad thing……although that doesnt really hold true for LB’s. I’m just saying that maybey his stats, or lack-there-of, may have been more of the system rather then Miller not playing well. Everyone on the team cant get the tackle. Someone has to pass defend and zone. Another possible scenario is that teams usually wouldn’t go to his side. I’m just kinda speculating here though, dont know for sure. I do know this, when Miller was a fresh and soph, he was a machine on special teams. It will be very interesting to see what he does nexet year.
By Tra Battle sucked
January 11, 2007 07:03 PM | Link to this
Tra Battle had a couple of good games his whole career at UGA. He played great against Auburn this year but other than that he was one of the worst safties to play at UGA since Kirby Smart. He was very weak at tackling and just was not the physical presence we need at safety. How he and Dan Inman made all sec is a mystery to me, they both were not very good at all!! Their main contribution was a few personal fouls after the play by Inman and alot of thug type jawing after the play by Battle. That being said, I appreciate the effort and wish them the best in the future. Go Dawgs!
By GW
January 11, 2007 08:11 PM | Link to this
At Georgia the SAM LB comes out of the game in favor of a nickelback when the TE leaves and on passing downs. WILL is just as much of an inside LB as MIKE. A big LB body at SAM is pretty much a waste. Why fool with Brandon Miller at DE for one season? It will be a waste of time. He’s just not a football player, too upright and stiff. Forget that he was a highly rated recruit in HS. Either he can play or he can’t. Too late for experimenting. As for Bailey, why not sign him, get him on the practice field, and then decide.
By Damn Dawgs
January 11, 2007 08:49 PM | Link to this
Here’s a thought…. Let the coaches decide where he plays when/if he comes to Athens. Kind of the reason I send my money up there. If he can run sideline to sideline, that means he can cover the flats and stop 3rd and long. My only problem with Willie’s defense is in this area. The Tn,Ky,Vandy, and Fla games were perfect examples. Van Gorder was excellent with third and long. Ever notice when it’s third and 6+, our corners play soft, we send both ends and expect our LB’s to cover a reciever “dragging” or a TB/FB out in the Flat. “Easy pickin’s” as my high school coach used to say. We adjusted late in the season while finishing strong and were much better on third down.
I hope Bailey comes to Georgia, my friends in St.Simons/Darien say he is the real deal.
Go Dawgs.
By Anonymous
January 11, 2007 08:49 PM | Link to this
I must have missed Bailey committing to us…I do believe he is a lean to us even though he doesn’t say it. I say let him try and prove to the coaches that he can do it. If it doesn’t work out then try him somewhere else. Anyone heard about the insults Clifton Geathers was throwing at us when he officially came out and said he was going to Carolina? He said Carolina was a team on the rise and Georgia was a team on the fall!!!!!…lol. We stopped recruiting the kid in like October so he is having his period right now. Anyway, good luck Clifton riding the pine at Carolina.
By Bartkowski Fan
January 11, 2007 09:22 PM | Link to this
Hey fat kid. stick to your opinions on the falcons. you obviously are the reason whyplayers and coaches ignore the papers………..
By Notsurprised
January 11, 2007 10:23 PM | Link to this
As I have said many times, and CS replied to me via email that it is true, he is not a fan of the SEC or UGA. CS could be attempting a ploy to get Bailey to forget UGA as a possible choice. I live in Bailey’s neighboring county in coastal GA, and I promise you, this IS UGA Country!!
By Cuz
January 11, 2007 11:36 PM | Link to this
Coastal Georgia is God’s country. No greater place has he walked than the marshes of Glynn and surrounding counties. That said, come to Athens, you will get a kick out of the hills.
By TEDDY JACK EDDY
January 12, 2007 12:56 AM | Link to this
I say get the guy signed and put him at linebacker, if it works great if not he’s a bright guy take him aside and explain that it’s in his best interest to play on the line.Why butt heads and chase the kid to another school? I’ve looked at Baily on scout.com and he could play back, but the line is probably where his best value will play out.ps I watched video of King on scout he looks alot like Reggie Bush to me,the only runner I am more impressed with is Noel Devine(words can’t do justice)but he is a problem child and FSU and Nebraska are the only ones to offer.The only UGA back that King brings to mind is Rodney Hampton but I think he could be better.Lets’ hope he clears academics and competes for time next season.
By Coondawg
January 12, 2007 05:41 AM | Link to this
HOW ABOUT “THE FREAK” ELLERBE? THIS GUY IS GOING TO BE AMAZING AT LB.
By BirdDawg
January 12, 2007 08:29 AM | Link to this
UGA sucks, always has, always will
By slick
January 12, 2007 09:07 AM | Link to this
Shameless article recruiting for the Dawgs. Let Bailey decide where he wants to attend school before you put him in a position on the field. You should know better than that kind of self serving journalism.
By 82DAWG
January 12, 2007 09:36 AM | Link to this
Good gosh, unless I a have missed something Bailey isn’t even leaning towards UGA right now. In fact our 2007 recruiting of HS players hit a brick wall months ago. Bailey is probably going to F+(#ing Florida anyway.
I don’t know why everyone is so excited about this class, it looks Extremely Average to me. Many of the top guys were from last year’s class that went to Hargraves. unless a miracle happens, we are going to lose out on ALL but on of the states top 10 recruits this year. I can’t ever remember this happening, even under Donnan!!! BTW without naming names, no way our top RB recruit in GA qualifes. EXTREMELY depressing.
By Big Dawg
January 12, 2007 09:53 AM | Link to this
First off- Allen Bailey’s stock went down because of the type of injury he has, disk in his neck. These types of injuries never get better only worse as they can flare up at anytime and can be debilitating.
honest_abe
carter or anyone: who is projected to play both defensive end spots next year??
The DE position is wide open to whomever steps up and takes the two starting spots. We will have a lot of talent competing for playing time i.e. Roderick Battle, Kiante Tripp, Demarcus Dobbs, Brandon Wood, Geno Atkins, Brandon Miller (?), Jeremy Lomax with incoming recruits Jarius Wynn, Neland Ball, and Justin Houston and possibly Allen Bailey and Miquel Chavis. Of all these guys Tripp is the most talented and has great size 6’6” 280 plus and skill. Time will tell which of these guys have the heart and want it the most and step up.
By Big Dawg
January 12, 2007 10:28 AM | Link to this
82DAWG
Good gosh, unless I a have missed something Bailey isn’t even leaning towards UGA right now. In fact our 2007 recruiting of HS players hit a brick wall months ago. Bailey is probably going to F+(#ing Florida anyway.
82Dawg due to Bailey’s injury i.e. disk in his neck its probably a good thing if we don’t get him even though he is a very talented guy.
I don’t know why everyone is so excited about this class, it looks Extremely Average to me. Many of the top guys were from last year’s class that went to Hargraves. unless a miracle happens, we are going to lose out on ALL but on of the states top 10 recruits this year. I can’t ever remember this happening, even under Donnan!!! BTW without naming names, no way our top RB recruit in GA qualifes. EXTREMELY depressing.
Now do you actually know something about Caleb King and his SAT scores or is this just your gut feeling. BTW even if he makes a high enough score on the SAT to get into GA. he probably would not get much playing time as we are loaded at RB because we have Lumpkin, Moreno, Johnson and Brown with Chapas and Munzenmaier capable of playing TB as well. Moreno is the real deal only needed to work on his blocking which according to the coaches he made tremendous progress on this past year. Also as Buck Cochran has pointed out on many occasions over the last several weeks we will be playing a wide open offense much like what we saw in the second half of the Chick-fil-a bowl against VT’s # 1 ranked defense. We are going to be fine as the coaches addressed some critical depth issues along the Offensive and Defensive lines in this class. We now have what appears to be the best OL we have had in many, many years and our offense will be very strong next year.
Go Dawgs
By VADawg
January 12, 2007 10:43 AM | Link to this
I agree that this years class sucks, and unless something changes, new recruiting coordinator, they will continue to. We can’t touch S.C now with satan coaching there, and can’t get into Fla anymore, and #ucking GT is beating us for instate prospects. What is the world coming to? I am rellly p**.
By Big Dawg
January 12, 2007 11:11 AM | Link to this
VADawg,
This class doesn’t suck as it is crowded with some of the best talent available this year. We have some real impact players in this class i.e. Rennie Curran and Charles White at LB. Justin Anderson, Trinton Sturdivant, Scott Havercamp, Vince Vance, Ben Harden, Antwane Greenlee, Clint Boling and Tanner Strickland offensive linemen. Bruce Figgins and Aron White at Tight End, Walter Hill and Israel Troupe receivers. Jarius Wynn, Neland Ball, Justin Houston, and Corvey Irvin Defensive Line. Vance Cuff and John Knox DBs with Caleb King RB and Logan Gray QB. We addressed some critical depth issues along the Offensive and Defensive Lines which are our biggest concern and need. I will say it would be great if we get Cameron Heyward and Miguel Chavis who both are impact players as well. If it means anything to you our offense is going to be really good this year. Our OL gave up 15 sacks last year and it will be even better this year as we will have two to three outstanding OL at every position. Our concern going into next year will be at the receiver position as to whether they catch the ball consistantly. All those drops killed us this past year.
By James Flowers
January 12, 2007 11:15 AM | Link to this
I would hope the coaches give the young man a chance to play where he desires to play. Should he not excel there, then move him to the DE position. I’m reminded of when Georgia had Marcus Stroud and Richard Seymour at the tackles. Both were backed up by David Jacobs, who should have been played at DE. David would have set the SEC on it’s ear had he been played at that position. Pollack was great, but Jacobs would have been something special.
By seabrookdawg
January 12, 2007 11:33 AM | Link to this
Why dont you let the class determine if they suck or not. Remember all the great recruiting classes at schools that didnt amount to anything. Georgia still has a top 10 class in most ratings.
By AltamahaDawg
January 12, 2007 11:35 AM | Link to this
Big dawg, Bailey has been leaning to UGA since he was a Junior and has been to several camps and unofficial visits, the issue of playing LB is the only reason he still looks around. BTW, that injury is one of the most common type of injuries in the game and he is fully recovered. There is not one single person ever quoted knowledgable that says any different. If you can quote somebody reliable , I’ll stand corrected. His stock has never gone down. Miami basically promised him he could play wherever and got his attention, but of cource that is in flux now.
By rd
January 12, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this
Hey gator, the dog catcher, Wer’re gonna hit you so hard next year that when you finally wake up….your colors will be red, black, annnd blue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
rd
By AltamahaDawg
January 12, 2007 11:59 AM | Link to this
Just an odd note that wouldnt mean anything to anyone else in here, (since 99% of you live in Atlanta, a few sound like they have never been out) But I had to laugh at a recent article I read ON ESPN . basically…. “McIntosh County Academy (Darien) made the state AA playoff this year for the FIRST TIME IN SCHOOL HISTORY, despite not having their best player Allen Bailey” . Hmm Well considering that they only moved up to AA this past year, after a long string of top 10 and advanced rounds of playoff years, in single A, I’d say that was pretty poor reporting. In fact, they made the AA playoff, losing to the eventual champs, their VERY FIRST YEAR, in that classifications. Sorry for bringing anything up from the rest of Georgia. Please go back to matters within the metro area. JK fellas.
By mark
January 12, 2007 12:00 PM | Link to this
Is anybody else worried that we’ve been pulling in top 5 recruiting classes and we still lose to Fla every year. This year we have the #11 class and our arch rivals who just won the NC have the #1. ANyone else worried?
By AltamahaDawg
January 12, 2007 12:01 PM | Link to this
Oh yea, GTDC, I forgot to say congrats to your mother’s team.
By Nate Taylor
January 12, 2007 12:05 PM | Link to this
Considering the games are played outside, yes, Bailey should play outside. Until the SEC Championship game, that is, and then the whole team should play inside. That is all.
By Nope
January 12, 2007 12:16 PM | Link to this
Naw, mark the gator or bee, ain’t worried a bit. Brang them sumbritches on.
By Brooks
January 12, 2007 12:22 PM | Link to this
I agree with some of the comments made about our recruiting efforts this year. I think there is a pretty significant drop off from year’s past. Caleb King is looking like an academic flop. Chris Little goes to Notre Dame. The JUCO guys who knows. We needed another big name receiver. Didn’t happen. I don’t see the TE position being a major concern right now. NaDerris Ward and Tripp Chandler should be prerry solid. If you look at what recruits are left I personally don’t feel good about it. We missed on Burnett, Little, Berry, and it’s looking like Bailey. That is not acceptable. We should be able to land that type of talent in our state every year. This time of year the other major programs make their push. Recruiting in Athens has pretty much run the course. I feel we didn’t finish the drill. GO DAWGS
By Big Dawg
January 12, 2007 12:30 PM | Link to this
AltamahaDawg
I hope you are right about the injury thing as I don’t really have any inside info other than what I heard that he had a disk problem in his neck. The other thing about his stock is based on GA. recruiting Chavis, Malachi Lewis and Eugene Kinlaw and Coach Richt’s own words about taking a closer look into the injury thing with our recruits. As far as his leaning towards GA. I also hope you are right about that as well as I know the coaching staff thinks that he has the ability to be that special player i.e. Stanfil, Pollack, Scott, Walker, Wilson etc.
Go Dawgs
By 69dawg
January 12, 2007 12:53 PM | Link to this
Maybe we should be worrying about the middle more. We can’t stop anyone with a good straight ahead runner. Our DL lets the OL free on our LBs and that’s why our safeties have to make the tackles over and over.
By fetch
January 12, 2007 12:54 PM | Link to this
Carter-
Did Allen commit to the Dawgs and I missed it?
Thanks
By Big Dawg
January 12, 2007 01:00 PM | Link to this
AltamahaDawg
If you look at my post you will note I was responding to 82Dawg’s comments about Bailey- He’s the one who said Bailey wasn’t leaning to GA. I do have some inside info on this and I know Coach Richt, Garner, Martinez and Fabris have staying in contact with him and visited his parents at his home. I also think I saw where he plans to make an official visit to GA maybe its to make it official that he’s going to be a Dawg.
By 82DAWG
January 12, 2007 01:41 PM | Link to this
Brooks, my feelings exactly.
Do we have some fine committments? Yes, we do. Are the number of top committments consistent with the level we need to maintain, No. Did we rule our state this year? Not even close, NO. So what happened?
With the trend towards losing all too many of our top players after their junior years, we HAVE to recruit better than this. Right now, we can watch our rivals build their programs off of our in state talent. This is what happened in the 90’s and if this happens again,…
We have to build our teams on Georgia’s top High School recruits. Then, enhance it with some out of state guys. This is the formula that works. We have to start at home. The good news is that we have a good start to a 2008 class. But we really dropped the ball this year.
By Buck Cochran in the NW
January 12, 2007 01:53 PM | Link to this
I’m just glad to hear he’s been leaning toward the Dawgs. This is the 1st time I’ve heard of it. I’m including staying on top of Rivals, Scout and newspapers. We’ve gotten help where we need it in this recruiting class but IMO we lost to many top players to outside schoole and the bugs. I know where the rating services have us and it’s a fact that over the last month we’ve been dropping. If Troupe can catch, I hope they put him on the field and work on his blocking as the season rolls.
By 82DAWG
January 12, 2007 01:53 PM | Link to this
Oh, one more thing. How many tight ends do we need? Good gosh. Is Dan Reeves secretly involved in our recruiting?
By ConyersDawg
January 12, 2007 02:11 PM | Link to this
Big Dawg, I don’t think M lewis is being recruited anymore, and Kinlaw is wanted but will have to go to prep school. The guys that committ and go to hargrave are basically placed by uga with the silent shake of the hand that Coach Prutiny will get their grades going and get them back to uga. Like a silent deal basically.
That’s why when uga pulled away from geathers you see SC come right in.
By AltamahaDawg
January 12, 2007 02:16 PM | Link to this
Ah, I see it now, but wasnt trying to correct anyone. Who knows how anyone leans. I’m just saying, he is local to me and I have talked to plenty of folks including his current high school linebacker coach who obviously know him well. Not sure thats insight, but folks who know him and talk to him on a daily basis over the past several years assure me he would luv to be a Dawg if he could assure himself it was the proper move. I talked to a friend a few months back who had just return from a game, in Athens, with the kid. I’m just saying its not a matter of not wanting to commit, or being dramatic, he is just seriously concerned about PT and at what position. As you pointed out, he purposely made UGA his last Official visit, so hopefully that means something. Would hurt to see him go south.
On the injury, I try not to put a whole lot of weight into things that come out, as the AJC needs an interesting story. I sort of don’t beleive that any head coah at this point suddenly woke up one morning and said,. Hmm I wonder if any high school football player ever gets injured and if so, I wonder if we might need to look at that. I know he brought it up, but it sounds just like a neat article. I tend to beleive those are usually responces from directeld questions. I’m sure coaching staffs already look at that stuff, more that we would ever have any idea. I dont beleive we were ever unaware of any injuries anyway, and can’t beleive we have some new etched in stone policy. I thihk we just had a odd rash of weird situation about linemen and since linemen were the currect UGA news stories, it was a good time to ask about injuries and thats what he said. “We plan on really paying attention to that stuff”. I certainly don’t think we decided to do that all of a sudden at the END of the recruiting cycle. Nor did we change our mind suddenly on anyone that i saw. Even if we trully are putting more imphasis on previous injuries, im sure we decided to do that after last years class and anyone that we are currently openly, publically, pursuing would have already been vetted. In Bailey’s case… old injury, common to lineman, healed, all well documented, investigated.
By AltamahaDawg
January 12, 2007 02:25 PM | Link to this
Buck, don’t put too much into stars and ratings. Those guys had Tenn #1 about 3 yrs ago. How did that work out? I beleive we will fulfill our scholarship allotments with some much needed bodies. Filling in the holes isnt always glamourous. And we can’t sign everyone, so who do we cut? All of our recruits were also on somebody elses lists. If it makes you feel better about those “paid” sights rating scales, we do have perhaps the top lineman class going. Another thing is, UF signing a 5 star, 4 star, and 3 star QB this year. Does anyone really think that all of those guys are going to contribute? Looks good on paper and maybe they needed depth, but you see my point.
By Greg
January 12, 2007 02:27 PM | Link to this
You do not know what position UGA wants Bailey to play. Oh wait I am sure you and Coach Richt have discussed it. Please stop these terrible blogs.
By Buck Cochran in the NW
January 12, 2007 02:53 PM | Link to this
Altahama, Those opinions don’t belong to some ranking service, they are my opinions after checking out news papers, radio talk show hosts, ranking services and people I know. I just made a correct comment about the rating services. But as you can see I don’t form my opinions on just one or two sources.
By gator the dog catcher
January 12, 2007 03:03 PM | Link to this
Altamaha - mother’s team??? Whatever the case, Florida is your Daddy! Thanks for the backhanded congrats.
By godawg
January 12, 2007 03:05 PM | Link to this
FANS OF CHAN need to go over to the Chan Gailey Blog and lobby, no, beseech this great coach to continue to ply his skills in the Great State of Georgia at the helm of that fine institution of technological education down by the Varsity! GO THERE NOW!
By Gen Neyland
January 12, 2007 03:11 PM | Link to this
Since BuLLdawg’s absence on these blog pages, my insomnia has returned…
By Big Dawg
January 12, 2007 03:14 PM | Link to this
Buck Cochran how did those tests turn out? You said the results would be in yesterday. Just wondering, still praying for you.
By godawg
January 12, 2007 03:20 PM | Link to this
Yes, where is #39?
By Gen Neyland
January 12, 2007 03:38 PM | Link to this
We may have to retire jersey #39 from the blog team. Hang it from the pressbox…
And speaking of coaches, the SEC is loaded. The East and the West is becoming the Who’s Who of college football coaches…Tennessee didn’t give Fulmer a huge vote of confidence,i.e. $$$$$ after this season…May be shopping up in Rocky Top within a year or two…Cutcliffe..?
By Buck Cochran in the NW
January 12, 2007 03:53 PM | Link to this
Big Dawg, cuz and others to many to get the results back. Next week.
By Carter's Daddy
January 12, 2007 04:05 PM | Link to this
What is going on with the Carter bashing. Are you jealous because my son works at the Atlanta Journal Constitution and all you get to do is fantasize at your keyboard?
By gdawginkalamazoo
January 12, 2007 04:14 PM | Link to this
Gen Neyland, Think Cutcliffe will borrow the kife that Fulmer used on his good friend and mentor Johnny Majors? Interesting.
For all you people complaining, stop it. We are doing fine on recruiting. Stocking a lot of positions and filling voids. If you are around the top 10 classes or better every year you are getting some major talent. And how much does that help? I don’t know, go ask USC after they played UCLA and Oregon State. And USC has been #1 for the past four years, so go figure.
I am worried about the bugs, the reptiles or anyone else for that matter? HELL NO! GO DAWGS!
By I-DOG
January 12, 2007 04:29 PM | Link to this
82 DAWG:
Why do down on this recruiting class? We already signed 7 of the top 100 in the South and that is a solid year. We missed on Berry, but I think this will prove to be a very solid class
DB - We signed a good safety and a very speedy cb (both 4 stars) The roster is deep and talented at this position and we added to that stockpile.
LB - We signed a smallish (four star) LB and another 3 star player. It would have been nice to add another stud here.
DE - Wynn, Houston, and Ball are all solid players with Wynn possibly contributing right away. We are still in the hunt for Allen Bailey (5 stars)
DT - Not a great year in Georgia for this position. Still in the hunt for Heyward (4 stars)and got some help from the Juco ranks for immediate inpact in Irvin.
OL - The biggest position of need, UGA did as well as a team can do at this position. Much as already been posted about this position.
QB - With Stafford’s play as a True Freshman, Richt is able to sign a 4 star QB which is impressive.
WR - Would have been great to add another 5 star player here, but getting Troupe (4 stars) as well as the nations top Junior WR to give a verbal from out of state, that is solid work.
RB - With three juniors on the roster and Moreno getting raves from coaches and players, the Dawgs get their King (5 stars). Will he get in this year, I don’t know… but even if we have to wait another year, this is a great pickup if he lives up to the hype.
FB - Hard to sign another one at this position given current roster
TE - With what we already have on the roster, I am surprised that we were able to land a 4 star player in White and then add Figgins (3 stars)
I see 4 and 5 star players all over the place and we addressed our biggest need areas. #1. Immediate Juco help on OL, #2.) Talented high school OL and #3 immediate Juco depth at DT and DE.
We got a 4 and sometimes 5 star player at every position other than FB (only 85 ships), DE (still pending), DT (still pending)
By Gen Neyland
January 12, 2007 04:34 PM | Link to this
Cutcliffe may let Fulmer slit his own throat in defiance. Loyalty from admin to coach can be summed up in W’s and L’s…After the years Fulmer has served and the BCS NC glass football, he may be getting long of tooth in the HC job at UT. Sure would hate to see Cut and Chavis leave though…and me zoo, 2007 may turn out to be one of our finest since 1998…Lord knows we need it…Go Vols
By resident dawg fan
January 12, 2007 04:45 PM | Link to this
personally, i think bailey is a great kid and an awesome spectacle, but i think that the hype is a bit much on him, he runs good but plays slow, plus he comes from an under acheiving school and was very unspectacular at fullback despite playing in a weak classification. if he was half the athlete that he looks like he is then i think he woulda been a better fullback in high school…..that’s a bad sign to me altogether.
By I-DOG
January 12, 2007 04:45 PM | Link to this
Mark, Am I worried? NO.
We have done better in recruiting and finished in the top 10 four out of the past five years than we did under Goff, Donnan, or the LDOD (last days of Dooley). We finished in top 10 four out of last five year and won two SEC Championships. We have more talent and have had more success under Richt.
Florida is a very good team. In the 90’s, there were 3 or 4 years where you knew we didn;t have a chance against the reptiles. They were much better than we were. At times, the scores were lopsided.
During RE (The Richt Era) All the games have been close. The Gators have won those games and they played well enough to win.
Would it have made a difference if Shockley played last year instead of JT3 starting his first game ever? Maybe… What if Shockley played and Leak was hurt? Would it have mattered if our outstanding FG kicker wasn’t injured this year, maybe… maybe not.
Florida has had a bye before UGA for a long time and we get it next year. Florida will continue to have good teams and so will UGA. It will continue to be a battle and I suspect we will win a few over the next three years with Stafford
By I-DOG
January 12, 2007 05:09 PM | Link to this
Thats a good point about who do you cut from this class to sign some other players?
If we were able to sign Berry, Little, Bailey, Heyward, Burnett, and another 5 star LB and WR (I would be happy), that isn’t being realistic.
By TEDDY JACK EDDY
January 12, 2007 06:23 PM | Link to this
If Caleb King can’t make the grade this could be a very average class.It’s true that Baily hasn’t said UGA is the front runner,the oline looks like the only strength but sometimes addressing a need is more important than overall strength.This team has had several classes fall short in o linemen. More worrisome is the long term implications of losing out on so many targeted instate players. If we lose out on Baily and Hayward and King doesn’t qualify, on paper this would be the weakest instate class in my memory.
By irishdawg
January 12, 2007 06:28 PM | Link to this
Carter is Blue with reddish eyes and green hair if that makes you happy. Oh let wait til Bailey gets in first then we can start the arguement. let not put the cart in front of the horse.
By TEDDY JACK EDDY
January 12, 2007 06:41 PM | Link to this
Just looking at stats and watching video I think two sleepers in this class could be Neland Ball a de( great frame,disengages’ quickly and runs tight lines to the ball.And Walter Hill a wide receiver who has a long frame, huge hands and is smart enough that he played qb this year.He had a great juior season at wr 11 tds on 33 catchs’ with a 27 yards per catch average.So I’ll withhold judgement on the value of this class but losing out on so many targeted instate players does worry me.
By AltamahaDawg
January 12, 2007 07:29 PM | Link to this
resident, when and where have you ever MCA play football. How is a High school from one of the smallest counties in Ga always in the playoff and runners up a time or two in the state underacheiving? Lost this year to the eventual champs in a calsification it was first year in>
By Big Dawg
January 12, 2007 09:35 PM | Link to this
I-DOG
I agree with you and by the way a few of these 4 star prospects we got should have been rated 5 stars i.e. Aron White, Rennie Curran, Justin Anderson, Antwane Greenlee and Israel Troupe. Also Charles White that 3 star middle linebacker would have been a 4 or 5 star if he had been bigger than 5’11” 200lbs, because the word on him is that he can flat out play, makes tackles all over the field.
ConyersDawg
Big Dawg, I don’t think M lewis is being recruited anymore?
Conyers you are right we aren’t pursuing him, he’s the one that has been contacting our coaches about visiting Athens and possibly playing at GA. Also there is another OL Kevin Bryant that is interested in playing for GA, I don’t think we are actively pursuing him as we have shifted our focus to the Defensive Line i.e. Bailey, Chavis and Heyward.
Besides all these guys are talented and it is heart and desire that separates good players from great players.
Go Dawgs
By AltamahaDawg
January 12, 2007 09:59 PM | Link to this
GTDC, I have suspected a while that you are not the same person who used that handle last year. If you dont know what I mean, I am sure of it now.
By bulldog_greg24
January 13, 2007 01:23 PM | Link to this
I agree with some of the other bloggers. It looks like King will not qualify and I have heard from inside sources that the Ben Harden kid is as dumb as they come. While we brought in some JUCO players for the O-line there are reasons why these folks went to JUCO. Either their grades stunk or talent was questioned. Why can’t we sign better receivers? Berry is going to be a megastar in the orange. We blew it and it is a sad day when the Jackets are ranked right behind us. I have said it before as have some other bloggers. CMR is hurting our recruiting with all this redshirting. Look at Florida and how many they played. You think Urban doesn’t use that against us…the fact that he plays freshmen and we redshirt them? The game has changed in terms of players leaving early. Look at the headlines this week. There are 40 or 50 guys who have declared including our best player (CJ). We’ve got to stop redshirting talent like we did on defense this year. If you count Dixson we are losing 6 of our front 7 on defense. We could have used some of those players we redshirted to give them game experience. BTW I am a life long UGA fan who moved to St. Louis a year ago. I have seen Gray and White both play more than once. They are both over rated. Put it in perspective. Missouri HS football is 2 steps slower than Ga or FL football. Logan Gray is not as talented as our QB from MS. Neither of these 2 are 4-star players. The game is not nearly as good here. I lived in Warner Robins the last 5 years before coming here. Up here in St. Louis is like watching JV ball back there. This class without King is average at best and will not finish in the top 20 unless we get lucky with Heyward and Bailey.
By Big Dawg
January 13, 2007 04:46 PM | Link to this
bulldog_greg24
FL brought in 26 freshmen last year and 8 of these played varying amounts this past year. We all know that Harvin and Tebow made an impact but the other 6 I couldn’t tell you who they are. I believe they redshirted a good portion of the other 18 freshmen from last year. As far as Logan and White are concerned, we have had other bloggers who have reported that they saw them play and reported that they were underrated at 4 stars. No one knows which of these recruits will be stars and which ones will be flops. I hope for our teams sake these guys have the heart and desire to be great players. Go Dawgs
By bulldog_greg24
January 14, 2007 02:16 AM | Link to this
Big Dawg,
I hope you are right, but I read somewhere that FL played 18 this year. They definitely have more than just Tebow and Harvin. Below info is from Gatorsports.com and discusses their last home game and how the freshmen outshined the graduating seniors.
“Take a look at all the young people that have played this year and you can see Florida’s future,” UF coach Urban Meyer said.
Florida’s highly rated 2006 recruiting class is looking better and better all the time.
“Every time a freshman made a play, we’d say, “06, ‘06, ‘06,”’ true freshman tailback/kick returner Brandon James said. “I think we have lot of good things to go (in the future).”
James drew the ‘06 chant from his fellow true freshmen. He returned a punt 77 yards for a touchdown and broke the school record for punt return yards in a game with 155.
James was just one of many freshmen playmakers on a day when the Gators outgained WCU 582 yards to 59.
Here’s a sampling:
Running the entire offense for the first time in his young career, Tim Tebow completed 10 of 12 passes for 200 yards and two touchdowns and rushed for an additional 47 yards and two scores.
Wide receiver Jarred Fayson lined up at quarterback in the shotgun and ran for 77 yards and a touchdown.
Wide receiver Riley Cooper caught three passes - all for touchdowns - for 82 yards.
Tailback Mon Williams led the Gators in rushing with 95 yards, all coming in the fourth quarter.
Linebackers Brandon Spikes and Dustin Doe, starting for the first time, combined for 10 tackles.
Freshmen, freshmen everywhere, making plays and painting a bright future for UF.
By resident dawg fan
January 14, 2007 08:48 AM | Link to this
altdawg, since when was lucy laney “the team that knocked mca out this year” or twiggs county “the team that knocked them out last year” ever state champs or even state powers? laney had a couple of good years but not because they were a good program, there is a difference…..and getting trounced by charlton like almost every other team they played against is not some great accomplishment…..sorry! but thinking you are good and being good are two different things, and i have seen tons of high school football and know more pro football players then you will ever meet
By resident dawg fan
January 14, 2007 09:05 AM | Link to this
oh, and by the way, you do realize that alnost half the teams in each cassification make the playoffs don’t you?
By Big Dawg
January 14, 2007 11:00 PM | Link to this
bulldog_greg24
The comment I made about the 8 Freshmen players who got some to extensive playing time was from Coach Meyers himself. He was interviewed prior to the bowl game and he was asked about playing all these freshmen and he answered that only 8 had seen significant playing time and most of that was in the Western Carolina game. While he did play these freshmen and it is my understanding that he and his assistants tell all their potential recruits that they will be able to compete for playing time as all positions are open for competition. That just isn’t possible when most of the guys you have brought in are 4 and 5 star prospects and only so many can play. So Greg don’t worry about FL because Coach Richt knows what he is doing. Go Dawgs
By dawgfacedboy
January 16, 2007 09:02 AM | Link to this
I saw a post in here that said that we’ve landed like 7 or so Top 100 players but there was an article today saying that we’ve only landed one. I’mm confused. Am I missing something?