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DEL.ICIO.USCan basketball work at UGA?
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
I know you guys are all wound up about turkey and football this week, especially with the Battle for the Governor’s Cup — hey, that’s what they play for — just days away. But a recent conversation with Georgia’s men’s basketball publicist, Tim Hix, got me to thinking about hoops.
Hix had stumbled upon a Furman Bisher column from 1962. In it, Mr. Bisher was wondering when, if ever, the Bulldogs were going to get serious about their basketball team. At the time, Harbin “Red” Lawson was the basketball coach, though he didn’t receive any pay for it. His money came from being a physical education instructor.
Of course, Stegeman Coliseum was built a couple of years later. But the Bulldogs didn’t become routinely competitive in basketball until Hugh Durham arrived in 1978, reaching the Final Four in 1983.
Since then, Georgia basketball has existed in a series of fits and starts. Every time the Dogs would get it going, something would seem to happen. With Durham it was the Cedric Henderson mess, then a contract fiasco. Tubby Smith came, conquered and quickly left for Kentucky. Ron Jirsa wasn’t ready, Jim Harrick broke the rules and Dennis Felton has been in a perpetual rebuilding mode.
It’s often argued that Georgia, being the football school, will never be wildly successful in basketball. But I don’t believe that. Look at Texas, at Michigan and Ohio State. Look at Florida and LSU right here in the SEC.
I cover Georgia’s basketball team and, from what I’ve seen, they’ve got a chance to be pretty good this year. Felton is relentless in his mission to get big-time players to come to Athens and to turn around the program. With a little momentum, I think he could make it happen.
My question is, does the Bulldog Nation really care? If not, why not? How about on Dec. 22 when Georgia plays Tech in Atlanta? Will you care then? Don’t you want the Dogs to be great in both?
Comments
By Scott
November 22, 2006 04:17 PM | Link to this
I am very fired up about the Hoop Dawgs. Further, I think Coach Felton is (slowly) getting the job done. Keep in mind we are only 4 years removed from a situation that most thought would take at least 5 years to recover from. To answer the question, yes, if UGA starts winning, basketball will become a big deal.
By Snowdawg
November 22, 2006 04:21 PM | Link to this
Good questions Chip and I find myslef wondering the same thing. It is frustrating for many of us in the Dawg Nation to see other so called “football schools” perform at a high level in basketball as you have pointed out. Given the resources and the passionate fan base that we have at UGA there is no reason that we should not have a competitive basketball program. However, it will take a couple of things to really ignite it in my opinion: 1) A quality season from Dennis Felton and the team…one where we win some big games, get some TV exposure and generate some excitement amongst the fan base 2) A real commitment from the Athletic Department. Let’s face it, Stegeman Coliseun is not a recruiting asset and I’m sure that Coach Felton has a few other things on his “Christmas List” when it comes to b-ball resources and facilities. As long as the University treats the program as a second class citizen, it will remain just that.
By Rick
November 22, 2006 04:23 PM | Link to this
I think that Coach Felton is on the right track, he came into a terrible situation left by the Harrick’s and started by Jirsa. The Bulldog basketball program has always been like the North Carloina football program, a winning team here or there with a little fan exitement when winning but not a sustained success in either program. I think Dennis Felton will,(if he stays) make Georgia basketball an anual power in the SEC and nationally by doing it the right way. If the bulldog basketball program provides a winner for the fans to enjoy then they will come, just look at Florida since Donovan got there he has won and now they sell out every time the doors open, the same thing will happen with the Bulldogs although Stegeman needs some work.
By John B
November 22, 2006 04:31 PM | Link to this
I have always wondered why UGA can not excel in B-ball. If you look at other teams and the NBA, they are filled with players from the state of Ga. We just need to win consistantly and the support will come. The $ being spent on the program now will help.
By Tech4Ever
November 22, 2006 04:38 PM | Link to this
Scott, you hit the nail on the head. You have just described the Bandwagon Nation to a “T.” “…if UGA starts winning, basketball will become a big deal.” Since they aren’t worth braggin’ about then it’s not a big deal. Be a real fan. Pull for your team regardless of their performance. You better hurry and get back on the football ‘wagon. I heard that seats were filling up fast after Auburn.
By High Pockets
November 22, 2006 04:43 PM | Link to this
Chip, I can empathize. Hall of Fame Coach Andy Landers has built one of the top women’s basketball programs in the country and can only attract 9,000+ fans (It holds 10,000+) to Stegeman when they play the Lady Vols, one of the two women’s programs more storied than his own (the other being Connecticut). That’s a shame.
By billgt
November 22, 2006 05:01 PM | Link to this
they need to lower admission standards and hire Jim Harrick…oh, Adams did that already
By mike
November 22, 2006 05:07 PM | Link to this
It is frustrating that they don’t. The quality of High School basketball has improved greatly in the last 20 years. Top players from the state don’t want to go play in front of 3000 fans during the week, or less during holiday breaks when they can go to an ACC or Big East schools and be a big man on campus. The whole notion of UGA being a “Football School” is selling the athletic program short. They can be both. The whole conference needs a major promotional push. The SEC does well in the NCAA tournament, so the talent is there. There just is no passion. Even with Florida winning the NCAA, I have not met one bragging Gator fan that can name the starting five witout looking it up. To their credit, their crowds have grown even before the title. UGA need a new arena and a major marketing push to the students and alumni to make every game an event.
By True Dawg
November 22, 2006 05:15 PM | Link to this
I support Georgia in every sports cat. I follow football in detail, but love every aspect of being a Georgia Bulldog.
I hope we kick GTs a** in Baseball, football, basketball, and every other sport.
I think we will be sucessful in Basketball this year. Mabey a year or two Nat. Champs.
Gooooo Dawgs….Sic em!!!!1
By Stubaba
November 22, 2006 05:20 PM | Link to this
Felton’s a good coach. Stegeman is a dump though.
By Clark
November 22, 2006 05:20 PM | Link to this
I only missed one game in my years at UGA and loved every minute of it. A winning progrram helps but it take the students to get into it and TV time to get more fans in the gate. We can be a basketball school too with all the talent in the state. Patience, Dawgs, patience. The new facilities will help too. To He** with Georgia Tech!
By austindog
November 22, 2006 05:55 PM | Link to this
I was in school when Tubby was coach and remember watching Georiga in the NCAA tourny at the Georgia Theatre. The place was packed. Georgia just needs a coach that can get them to the dance regularly and the fans will look forward to basketball season. Hopefully Felton can be that guy.
By dawgh8er
November 22, 2006 06:08 PM | Link to this
Lets get one thing cleared up right now…UGA will NEVER win a National Title in basketball. What recruit would want to come play ball at UGA when they could possibly go to Ga. Tech, North Carolina, Duke, UCLA, or any other contender. UGA basketball is garbage. BTW…there is NO WAY UGA is beating this team Dec. 22 in Atlanta. Good luck MUTTS…your’re going to need it.
By Buck Cochran in the NW
November 22, 2006 06:53 PM | Link to this
Chicken or the EGG. I want Ga. to be a real powerhouse in B-Ball but the University needs to build a new colosium or seriously up grade what they have.
By VAN-24 UGA-22
November 22, 2006 07:07 PM | Link to this
GT-101 UGA-68 This will be the score on the 22ND.
By GW
November 22, 2006 07:12 PM | Link to this
Sure UGA alums want the BB team to win and beat Tech. The arena argument is old and worn out, just an excuse for fans who don’t care anyway. They would go the first season of a new arena and then quit. Felton is still operating a revolving door roster. Everybody wonders why. The team still has no identity. Need more players like Jarvis Hayes….good and exciting. Techies don’t show when their team is mediocre either.
By Ft Worth Dawg
November 22, 2006 08:01 PM | Link to this
Can football work at Tech?
By Joe
November 22, 2006 08:41 PM | Link to this
I believe Coach Felton has done an outstanding job in building this UGA basketball team into a regional player in the SEC. He has brought integrity, discipline, stressed academics, and is building strong character with the Georgia players. He has had to recruit for position to fill the voids but now has the player base to recruit for talent as well.
Georgia will rise to the upper echlons of the SEC and contend for the championships in the very near future. In the meantime, Felton and his staff are to be commended for their hard work and dedication to their players succeeding as student atheletes.
By Joe
November 22, 2006 09:08 PM | Link to this
By the way, I was attending UGA back when they played basketball in old Woodruff Hall and Red lawson taught me in a PE class and he was a fine gentlemen and great communicator.
I attended several basketball games and watched in amazement the referees having to call timeout to mop up the water from a wet floor caused by a very leaky roof when a rainstorm approached during a UGA game. There would be no more than several hundred fans and students attending those games held there.
I guess I am showing my age because I also remember traveling to Columbus Georgia for the Georgia vs.Auburn football games where only several thousand fans would be in the stands.
Times have changed, college atheletics have gone big time and so has the money to run the atheletic programs to satisfy gender requirements and deservedly so.
By Greg
November 22, 2006 11:01 PM | Link to this
Classic post by the Tech moron who says “who’d want to go to UGA when they can play at UCLA, Duke, UNC or Georgia Tech. Georgia Tech??? So Tech made the Final 4 a couple of years ago…they are not a perennial power and never will be.
UGA may never play for a national championship, but you would have been declared legally insane 12 months ago if you had predicted George Mason would play in the Final 4. In this age of college hoops, anything is possible.
By Sautee Dawg
November 22, 2006 11:18 PM | Link to this
To Tech4Ever.
Your remarks about the seats are filling up fast in athens after our win over Auburn, i don’t think UGA has ever had the problem of filling up a stadium the way Tech does, Sanford stadium sells out every saturday and another 10,000 to 20,000 fans outside tailgating just wishing they had a ticket. matter of fact just by seeing some pictures of Grant field and it’s halfhouse crowd on saturdays, UGA could probally draw more fans at one game than the bee’s can all season combined. Razorgator.com has tickets to saturdays game (60) ranging from $125.00 to $600.00 per ticket, i’d bet on any given saturday you could buy a whole section (upper and lower) of tickets for a Tech home game for around $450.00.
By ConyersDawg
November 22, 2006 11:20 PM | Link to this
Chip, thanks for writing sonething on our hoop dawgs. I this we are going to surprise some people this year. We have a good squad and Felton knows how to coach.
The kids at UGA have been waiting for this team to develop and they have. Mike Mercer is a budding star and Takias is a monster. With the #21 recruiting class comming in next year we are only looking better and better. Goodness, we already have a point gaurd commit for 2008 and a good one.
Once Ga. kids start seeing what’s going on at Georigai and we start getting on National TV next year all the kids leaving state or going to Tech will want to come to Athens.
Go Dawgs!
Happt Thanksgivings dawgnation!
By Lane4411
November 23, 2006 07:09 AM | Link to this
Cannot restrain myself. The program at Providence was on the radar screen for recruiting/academic violations when Harrick took the Georgia job, Adams should have known better. Prior to UCLA Harrick was at Pepperdine, where he was rumored to be dirty, no proof ever materialized. What a scum bag!!!!!
Felton, like Tubby will not be around long!!!!!
By Kendall
November 23, 2006 07:57 AM | Link to this
Didnt the Dawgs beat yech last year in basketball too? Nerds.
By BuLLdawg
November 23, 2006 09:30 AM | Link to this
. The Georgia Institute of Technology is ON PROBATION all this season and all next season TOO in football, a fact the AJ-C neatly forgets somehow to mention one time. The Georgia BuLLDawgs are NOT.
Tech is for nerds and thus by a 4 to one ratio is, because of those nerds, all boys. Georgia is 57 percent women. It is harder to get in to Georgia than Tech, yet Tech in a city of 5 million has 12,000 students which is one-third the size of Georgia.
There are 2,988 girls at Tech and 20,720 women at Georgia. Where would you want to go ?
All of Tech’s “student” – athletes are management majors, but Tech’s Graduate Business School is ranked worse and easier to get in to than Georgia’s also.
Georgia Tech beat Virginia Tech, who themselves beat no top-ranked team either.
Georgia beat Auburn, and Coach Richt does not have a losing record to Auburn or to Georgia Tech. In fact, Coach Richt has never lost to Georgia Tech.
This is his 6th season.
Tech plays in the crappy America’s Cupcake Conference where there is not one single solitary top-ranked team and none BCS eligible.
Not one ACC team is BCS eligible, as Oklahoma is ranked Number 15 and there is no ACC Team even in the Top 15.
Who is the top-ranked ACC team ?
Trick question.
There is NOT one.
Georgia Tech’s “Strength” of Schedule is Number 58 in the nation.
Georgia is better at that, too.
Of the 21 sports, Georgia Tech LOST in all but women’s volleyball to Georgia and that is only Tech’s 2nd win ever over Georgia in that sport out of 31 matches.
The ACC is the single worst conference of all the conferences in Football this season, even worse than the Big East Conference.
Last season in the Final AP Poll, the ACC had 1 team in the Top 16, while the SEC had 5 of the Top 14, by direct comparison.
This season, it is even worse.
There are 4 SEC teams and no ACC team ranked higher than Georgia Tech at Number 18 this season so-far to-date, but Georgia is picked to win the game by multiple points.
There are 5 better teams in the SEC than Georgia this season; yet ACC chUmpionship participant Georgia Tech is picked to lose the game.
Georgia Tech has lost 12 of the last 15 meetings between Georgia and Tech. The other 3 were all played by Tech’s 11 best athletes, not a one of the 11 of which would have been eligible to play at any institution in the nation.
Tech is having its only in-side the top 50 recruiting rankings season at this time, so-far; and yet it is still twice as poor at recruiting as Georgia who has 7 wins on the season in a far better conference.
In football, in men’s basketball, in baseball and in every other sport there is too, the SEC is the dominant conference over the stinking little itty-bitty cupcake schools of the America’s Cupcake Conference.
Paul Hewitt cannot beat Georgia, even when we only suit up 5 scholarship players.
Your baseball team has lost 56 more times to Georgia than we have to you.
There are 29,000 Georgia Tech alumni in this city of 5 million and over a quarter of a million UGA Alumni, such as myself.
When you have a call-in show for your football team, you get one call all hour long and have to give it up for the entire season as a direct result.
We have a wet-behind the ears, not ready for Prime Time True Frosh Quarterback who has fumbled the football himself 12 times and who has thrown 13 interceptions, yet he is picked to be so much better than 5th year Senior Quarterback Reggie Ball, that it is a surprise to no one that even he is picked to beat Tech.
Intramural Vandy and hapless Kentucky BOTH beat Georgia among our 4 losses, but Georgia Tech is not expected to.
What does that tell you ?
Georgia’s attendance is Number 4 in the nation and Georgia Tech’s number 40, yet here sits Tech in a city of 5 million and Georgia in a city of 60,000.
http://www.ncaa.org/stats/football/attendance/2005/2005footballattendance.pdf
Georgia is going for its 95th Win in the last 10 years, while the Tech Nerds are trying for your 79th.
http://football.stassen.com/cgi-bin/records/calc-wp.pl?start=1997&end=2005&rpct=1&min=1&ss=on&se=on&c1a=on&pt=on&by=Wins
There are 45 former BuLLDawgs in the NFL today, and only 16 from Georgia Tech.
http://cbs.sportsline.com/collegefootball/alumni-tracker/school/5248
And none of the only 16 NFL Georgia Tech players are worth a damn, while the UGA BuLLDawgs have Pro Bowler after Pro Bowler including the reigning Super Bowl MVP, the 4th former BuLLDawg to be in fact the MVP of the NFL Championship Game.
http://cbs.sportsline.com/collegefootball/alumni-tracker/school/5813
In the National Assoc of Athletic Directors’ All Sports Trophy, Georgia is Number 8 in the nation and Georgia Tech not in the Top 50.
http://graphics.fansonly.com/photos/schools/nacda/sports/directorscup/auto_pdf/0506D1FinalStand.pdf
You cannot beat your way out of a wet paper bag at a bloody thing.
Enjoy your turkey day, for it was aptly named for you nerdy turkeys.
Did I say Georgia Tech is ON PROBATION IN FOOTBALL all this season and all next season too ?
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By BuLLdawg
November 23, 2006 10:08 AM | Link to this
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Hey War Damn Eagle
What happened ?
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By jim
November 23, 2006 12:14 PM | Link to this
It’s always a wait and see attitude for basketball. But, as far as playing Techies, it is always a must see. I don’t care if it’s checkers or badminton,it will attract a crowd that wants to beat the techno nerds! By the way most fans don’t care about any basketball (especially the ghetto thug NBA type),except for UGA b-ball because they’ve got that proud Georgia jersey on for all of us.
By Buck Cochran in the NW
November 23, 2006 12:17 PM | Link to this
BuLL DAWG? IS THAT YOU? WELCOME BACK, HACE YOU BEEN UNDER THE WEATHER? THOUGHT SOMETHING HAD HAPPENED. “bug” GAME, DAWGS BY 15, STAFFORD 2THROWING TDs.
By Buck Cochran in the NW
November 23, 2006 12:21 PM | Link to this
Speaking of B-ball for a moment, “bugs” are kinda quite today. Eh? Now footabll for the next 51 hours!!!!!
By nobull
November 23, 2006 12:28 PM | Link to this
welcome back buLL….where you been? Embarrassed? Candy and KFC upset your stomach? If so, just wait…until you get stung…
BuLL, still think staff will redshirt this year? lol!!!!
How is your buddy tird? And Buck?
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By gator the dog catcher
November 23, 2006 12:32 PM | Link to this
BuLLdawg “the fairweather fan” is back! Back on the bandwagon? Where have you been????????? Go back to Fairweatherville and pull for whoever is winning.
So for real BuLLdawg, where have you and Osama been hiding, in Lexington or Nashville maybe?
By Buck Cochran in the NW
November 23, 2006 01:02 PM | Link to this
nobull, I’m fine but I wonder if he’ll have anythying to say about my “early & often” prediction? I’m sure you remember the commotion that caused.
By GT92
November 23, 2006 01:47 PM | Link to this
To BuLLdawg,
Here are some facts for you to think about since you seem to like information and to bash GT and the ACC
1) Football national championships GT -4 UGA -1
I know the UGA website likes to claim you guys have more than one but the consensus (outside parts of this state) is that you just have one so don’t try to push claims about 1927 (when you lost to GT BTW) and 1968 (an 8-1-2 national champion???) or 1942 (another year with a loss). The undefeated 1946 team might have an argument but not the others. No matter how you cut it GT has more and has won more recently.
2) Conference Championships GT - 15 UGA - 12 (maybe 13 if you include the one from 1896 that some writers give you credit for)
I always thought you played with the ultimate goal of winning championships. By that measure you support an inferior program.
Attendance - what’s the point? That more people are fans of UGA? That has been the case since these two teams started playing each other and it always will be. Tech’s fan base is primarily alumni while UGA’s extends to all the sidewalk alumni from below the nat line who show up on Tuesdays in their RVs and whose behavior before, during and after a game should be an embarrasment to any civilized UGA alumni.
ACC v SEC In the last 25 years the SEC has won five NCs and the ACC won four NCs (if you include Miami that number goes to ten for the ACC but since they were not in the ACC during that time we won’t count those). I don’t really see how you can conclude the ACC is so inferior when the mighty SEC has only won one more NC than the ACC in the last 25 years.
Probation?? GT gets put on probation for the first time in its history because of some clerical errors. A large number of GT players flunk out of school in the aftermath because they were not cutting it academically. UGA on the other hand should probably have gotten the NCAA death penalty in the aftermath of Jan Kemp which exposed all the tricks and lies used to keep players in school who should have been kicked out. BTW, did I mention Jim Harrick? Most UGA fans who know anything about the history of UGA’s athletic programs misdeeds know to keep their mouths closed.
Your quote: “In football, in men’s basketball, in baseball and in every other sport there is too, the SEC is the dominant conference over the stinking little itty-bitty cupcake schools of the America’s Cupcake Conference.”
Are you serious? IN the last 25 years Kentucky won a bball title back in late 90’s and FL just snagged one. Over the same period UNC has 3 titles, Duke has 3 titles, NC State has a title and Maryland has a title.
Keeping life in perspective
http://www.nacubo.org/documents/about/FY05NESInstitutionsbyTotalAssets.pdf
If UGA fans are so loyal why is their endowment so pitiful?
UGA is ranked #103 at $517M. That is slightly ahead of Berry College at $516M.
GT is ranked #59 at $937M. We have less than half the alumni but almost double the endowment. What does that say about where the UGA fan base’s priorities lie? GT is consistently ranked near the top of public schools in terms of % of alumni that give to their school. GT alumni obviously value their degree very highly and give back to help further the development of their school. WHat do the fans of UGA give? They give lots to support athletics which in the big scheme of things really don’t matter that much. Misplaced priorities probably explains a big part of the reason why UGA has lower SAT scores and lower starting salaries for their graduates.
Good luck on Saturday
By Buck Cochran in the NW
November 23, 2006 03:29 PM | Link to this
Uhoh, here we go again!
By BuLLdawg
November 23, 2006 04:13 PM | Link to this
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Football National Championships Division 1-A, The Georgia BuLLDawgs 6.
http://www.nationalchamps.net/NCAA/database/georgia_database.htm
SIX, not 1
http://www.NCAA.org
6 Georgia BuLLDawg National Championships in Football, Division 1-A.
And, note, if you will that not 1 is during World Wars, in which Georgia Tech played players who were NOT at Georgia Tech but at other schools. The way you check that is to look in the College Football Hall of Fame, and NOTE IF YOU WILL THAT TECH’S PLAYERS ARE LISTED FOR MULTIPLE SCHOOLS, not Georgia’s.
The only other National Championship Georgia Tech wants to claim is by a DEFUNCT POLL, called the IUPI poll. That is not a unanimous National Championship and NONE of the others for Tech are either.
6 Georgia BuLLDawg National Championships in Football.
As a matter of Fact, according to the NCAA, Georgia Tech has NOT WON A NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP EVER, IN ANY SPORT AT ANY TIME.
The Georgia Institute of Technology is NOT ON NCAA PROBATION FOR THE 1ST TIME EVER, as you were also in 1988 when you lost scholarships, recruits, post season ban and TV Ban.
This is the SECOND GEORGIA TECH NCAA MAJOR DATABASE VIOLATION FOUND GUILTY.
At least our fans can buy RVs, something Georgia Tech’s nerds most assuredly do not own one single one of.
I conclude that the ACC is a stinking football conference this year by looking at the polls you are bragging about here and finding that there are 4 SEC Teams Ranked in the Top Dozen in the nation while the ACC America’s cupcake conference has Zero, nada in the top 15 by direct comparison in the latest BCS Rankings of the polls.
Last season, when the season had ended, there were exactly a grand total of 1 ACC team in the top 16 compared directly thereto again the 5 Top 14 SEC Teams in the Final AP Poll.
Now, what was it you were saying about where I get off saying the ACC stinks this year in football, according not to me, but to EVERYONE.
Basketball ? Now, you are talking about Basketball ? You named your big tet for a coach you ran out of town on a rail (and your football field after a college drop-out.)
You do not beat Georgia in basketball.
As for Matthew Stafford and his 12 fumbles and 13 interceptions…
I TOLD YOU SO.
Georgia Tech is ON PROBATION all this season and all next season in football for having as your best 11 football players 11 players who would not have been eligible to play at ANY school in America.
P.S. Even SWAFFORD is expected to beat Reggie bloody Ball.
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By Buck Cochran in the NW
November 23, 2006 04:29 PM | Link to this
BuLL DAWG, welcome back and do you happen to know what Stafford’s record is as a starting QB? I didn’t say anything about fumbles or ints. so we can talk abouthem all day. All I said was that he would play “early and often” and would end up as the starter. I’d call the 2nd series of the SC game early. Wouldn’t you? Playing the whole game is surely often, plus the games after that.
By BuLLdawg
November 23, 2006 04:37 PM | Link to this
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It was NOT I who wanted to waste Matthew Stafford’s All-America 5th Year Senior Season 2010-2011 for this season because I pointed out clearly that he was NOT READY.
Now that he was made the starter, and lost the games to Intramural Vandy and hapless Kentucky among others (and would have lost to lowly Colorado if it were up to him too and had not been yanked from that game too), did I see someone post how great 6-4 is, how wonderful awesome his 12 fumbles and 12 interceptions are?
Be realistic; I was right that Matthew Stafford was not ready and that I CATEGORICALLY DID NOT WISH TO WASTE HIS 5TH REDSHIRT SENIOR ALL-AMERICA 2010-2011 SEASON FOR THIS B.S.
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By BuLLdawg
November 23, 2006 04:56 PM | Link to this
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Against Auburn all the AJ-C can say is that Matthew Stafford RAN for 83 yards.
He had 2 MORE LOST FUMBLES, to total 12 fumbles of his this season to-date, with MORE coming.
He did not throw an interception against Auburn and now is the only UGA QB to play in EVERY GAME, all season long this year.
Auburn ?
Did I not tell War Damn Eagle that Auburn would lose to UGA that we own Auburn on The Plains and that Coach Richt would NOT have a losing record against Auburn, which he DOES NOT.
He still has 13 interceptions, and **Yes, I note clearly that you GLOSSED RIGHT OVER his horrid season of 12 fumbles and 13 interceptions, which is why I SAID I did NOT wish to trade a 5th Year Senior Redshirt Season 2010-2011, an All-America Year I pointed out for this B.S. of 7-4.
If we are to discuss 83 rushing yards AJ-C, why leave out the 2 lost fumbles ?
And, as for what AJ-C leaves out, I am thankful that the AJ-C EVER had it in the paper that for ALL THIS SEASON and for ALL NEXT SEASON, Georgia Tech is ON PROBATION for the NCAA Major Database Infractions - Tech’s SECOND EVER SUCH NCAA PROBATION.
Not that the AJ-C can write about that correctly either.
Chip Towers; you know you are lost when you tell a team that has beaten Georgia Tech in Men’s Basketball that don’t we fans want to see us win Tech week in men’s basketball too ?
And, have to tell us you cover UGA men’s basketball.
You are a fine sports writer Chip Towers. I would be thankful to see you type with a ribbon too and say that you recall listening to the radio as a child growing up, as did I. I very clearly recall our 1st color TV in 1957.
And, shortly thereafter UCLA playing Houston on WTBS Turner Broadcasting’s start at midnight, which was on a UHF channel we had to go to Thelma Austin’s home to watch.
Instead, Chip Towers you write Tech week wouldn’t we like to win in men’s basketball too ?
As others said to you, and you don’t have the guts to reply to them or me on the topic, we BEAT TECH in men’s basketball, or did you not cover them then ?
I don’t recall you telling us you covered us then.
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By Buck Cochran in the NW
November 23, 2006 04:57 PM | Link to this
BullDAWG, I’m glad that in your absence you didn’t lose your talent for twisting what other people said, forgetting your posts and not answering a question. Welcome home and as a TRUE DAWG, I’m sure you’ll be pulling for him to have a great game Sat.
By BuLLdawg
November 23, 2006 05:07 PM | Link to this
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I will tell you this, if SWAFFORD loses to Tech, do NOT come in this blog and expect me to point out ONCE AGAIN, that he ain’t ready to be the starting QB at UGA against our schedule.**
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Twist that.
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By Lane4411
November 23, 2006 05:21 PM | Link to this
BuLLdawg, the reason Stafford was not shirted was because of the lack of talent/experience at QB. MR, felt the competition was basically even until the UT game-i believe. . Had someone comparable to Shockley/Greene been available Stafford would have shirted. Greene had 18 int.’s his junior season and was sacked a number of times-like 50- this was in 03- year of the loss to LSU for the conference championship.
I had a dialogue with you earlier when you enlkightened me regarding the depth of the OL. Could you explain to me where all this depth is and why only 6 OL’s have played the majority of the snaps. Watts has played some, but is clearly not “SEC Ready”. In the future when providing guidance you may want to go to the current depth chart, and listen to the coaching staff regarding how beat up and tired the OL is. Coaches chart snaps played, sure you were aware of this.
The thought of Jim Harrick makes me violently ill.
By Buck Cochran in the NW
November 23, 2006 06:04 PM | Link to this
Lane4411, he’s still the same. He’s wrong, won’t admit it and tries to change the subject. You agree?…same old same old. This is one of the few times that I wish I had saved some of his posts to let everyone read. I do remember what you said about the “OL” and his response. Not word for word but in general. I need to jump back up and read his post. Did he ever say that he would be pulling for the Dawg QB to have a good game this Sat?
By Buck Cochran in the NW
November 23, 2006 06:07 PM | Link to this
Nope, never did and BuLL DAWG, you need to at least spell the QBs name right!!
By gator the dog catcher
November 23, 2006 06:48 PM | Link to this
BuLLdawg - Vanderbilt, Kentucky, Tennessee, Florida. Now put that brown paper bag back on your head and go back into hiding.
Sorry Buck NW. Hate to bring that up in front of the REAL UGAY fans (like yourself) that have stuck it out.
By Buck Cochran in the NW
November 23, 2006 07:01 PM | Link to this
No problem, it is what it is and “My Boy” had to go through those growing pains. Thanks.
By nobull
November 23, 2006 07:16 PM | Link to this
Buck, you surely were “early and often” and are still! lol
I hope Cox transfers to another Super Easy Conf (SEC) team and the dogs find out just how good he actually is…hopefully he will not go to an Actual Competive Conf (ACC) and face Tech every year! Just think, you guys could have W’s over Candy and KFC…
By gator the dog catcher
November 23, 2006 08:58 PM | Link to this
Buck NW - when you say “My Boy” (your boy), are you refering to BuLLdawg or Fatt Matt? Just kidding. Good luck this weekend.
By Buck Cochran in the NW
November 23, 2006 09:33 PM | Link to this
Fatt Matt! it is what it is but that boy sho can run and throw!! Ask Aw Barm!………..nobull, you done spoke to early. See, we’ve got a leader now who’s been through a whole lot in ‘06 and he’s still standing ,plus, he turned the light on. Dawgs by 15, “My Boy” 2 TDs throwing and maybe one more just for “it’s the thing to do”.
By GT92
November 24, 2006 12:05 AM | Link to this
To BuLLdawg,
My friend you are the one that brought up sports other than football
Your last quote:
“Basketball ? Now, you are talking about Basketball ? You named your big tet for a coach you ran out of town on a rail (and your football field after a college drop-out.)”
This was preceded in an earlier email that stated:
“In football, in men’s basketball, in baseball and in every other sport there is too, the SEC is the dominant conference over the stinking little itty-bitty cupcake schools of the America’s Cupcake Conference.”
Don’t bring other sports up if you are talking just about football.
You make my point with your link to nationalchamps.net. The link for UGA claims one national championship and then under “Other” it lists five other championships that are not universally recognized. My whole point was that only the 1980 title is universally recognized. Go to UGA’s own website. They don’t even claim a title in 66.
What is this quote about?
“The Georgia Institute of Technology is NOT ON NCAA PROBATION FOR THE 1ST TIME EVER, as you were also in 1988 when you lost scholarships, recruits, post season ban and TV Ban.” TEch was on TV from the point you reference in your post “1988” without interruption until today so where does this post season and TV ban stuff come from. They went to bowls during the 90 and 91 seasons. They didn’t qualify in 88 and were not invited in 89 but due to probation.
Please provide evidence of a major football violation that led to probation in 1988. I don’t believe it as your accusations are not backed by fact (they were on TV and were in bowls during this period.
UPI poll - my friend that is what is now the coaches USA Today poll. Just because it is defunct doesn’t change the fact that the coaches in 1990 considered Tech the best team in the land.
What does war have to do with national championships? Are you making some reference to the V2 program Tech had during WWII that resulted in some players for Tech in 43-44 that had played at other schools in earlier years? Tech won a national championship in 1917 (that would be WWI my friend) and not during 1942-45 so that argument doesn’t hold water.
Lets review another incorrect quote: “You do not beat Georgia in basketball” You must know this is flat out wrong. I think Tech beat UGA by about 40 points two years ago. Why do you make such false statements?
No one argues the ACC is having a down year. Your argument is that the ACC has never been any good at football. The facts show otherwise. As I stated earlier - in the last 25 years the ACC has 4 NCs and the SEC had 5 NCs.
With those facts confronting you how do you justify your statement that the ACC is “America’s cupcake conference”? In fact even in a down year the ACC has just as many teams ranked in the top 25 as the SEC does right now - 5. Yes, the SEC overall certainly has higher ranked this year but if you review the past few seasons I think you would see parity in this regard also.
Back to the NCAA and football. The NCAA does not award a championship in football so by that reasoning UGA does not have a championship in football either.
Lets review another quote: “At least our fans can buy RVs, something Georgia Tech’s nerds most assuredly do not own one single one of.” “most assuredly do not own one single one”? You must be joking? Why do you continue to make statements that are clearly false? If you are going to use links to back some of your assertions and provide the appearance of using logic then please be consistent throughout your post by not making statements that are clearly incorrect (like the bball one earlier). It undermines the credability of your arguments.
IRT the game on Saturday - many Tech fans cannot wait for Ball to finish his four years and move on. Stafford probably will end up being a better QB than Ball at the end of his time at UGA. If Tech loses Saturday it will probably be because of Ball. All that being said I would be careful of my boasting of how awesome UGA is and how weak the ACC is. I call the game a toss up as UGA has a team with awesome potential. THey have a great coach and tons of talent. I respect them. I do not degrade them or the SEC. Unfortunately others are unable to see that TEch and the ACC are deserving of that same respect and as a result that is why many in UGA’s fan base are viewed as ignorant and mindless. If Tech and the ACC are as horrible as you claim then you should win in a rout. If you do not win in a rout against a cupcake like Tech then you’ll have a lot of explaining to do after the game. That must be a lot of pressure to have to live with my friend.
By GREG
November 24, 2006 08:32 AM | Link to this
I WILL BLOW SH$$ ALL OVER THE YELLOW JACKETS!!!!IT’S DOWN TO WAKE AND MARYLAND!!!!!LOL!!!!!!ACC’S IN THE BCS HUNT!!!LOL!!!!
By billgt
November 24, 2006 08:50 AM | Link to this
bulldawg , you are useless. look up your history of athletic scanals and corruption at uga. start with butts and bryant in the 60’s, look at how many times your beloved ad dooley had a major program on probation, an average of every 3 years, plus he did not have the guts to stand up to adams in the harrick hiring,,, i could go on and on but what’s the point, you will never see the light. uga is the poster child for corruption.
By trottinghome
November 24, 2006 10:54 AM | Link to this
IT WON’T TAKE STAFFORD 5 YEARS TO BECOME A PRO.
By Lane4411
November 24, 2006 10:59 AM | Link to this
Arrest BuLLdawg- for disturbance of the peace and attempting to incite a riot, warrant being issued. No charges for providing false/misleading information, under investigation!!!!
By Jgann1
November 24, 2006 11:22 AM | Link to this
A dawg is a dawg is a dawg! It doesn’t matter what the sport is; it doesn’t matter if it’s guys or gals; I want the dawgs to be the Best!! Our basketball program is coming back for sure; and it’s coming sooner than later!
By BadgerDawg
November 24, 2006 11:22 AM | Link to this
Jacket National Championships: the 1/2 that included a tie to UNC is a joke, Colorado would have killed them if they didn’t luck out and play as lousy a bowl game as their schedule was. All the rest were from debatable sources and before 1950. I don’t think anyone is calling Army a national power, and they have more claim based on success back then than Tech ever did.
By Buck Cochran in the NW
November 24, 2006 02:47 PM | Link to this
wELL IT MUST BE OFFICIAL, TONY BARNHART HAS PICKED THE “bugs” AND SAYS THAT TENUTA WILL MAKE mATTHEW LOOK LIKE A FRESHMAN AGAIN! HAD TO POST TO TONY THAT STAFFORD IS NO LONGER A FRESHMAN. HE GRADUATED TO THE SOPH. CLASS IN THE AU GAME. SOPHS MAKE MISTAKES, HE WILL ALSO BUT HE’LL DO A TON MORE GOOD THINGS THAN BAD. i’M REALLY “PUMPED” TO WATCH THE MATCH UP BETWEEN TENUTA’S “D” AND STAFFORDS PLAY. WHAT A CHESS MATCH IT’S GOING TO BE. IF YOU PAY CLOSE ATTENTION YOU’LL LEARN SOME REAL FB. STUFF. ANYBODY ELSE WAITING FOR THAT MATCH UP?
By Correct BuLLdawg.com
November 24, 2006 03:11 PM | Link to this
BuLLdawg - FYI. (Pre BCS) In order to claim a national championship a team must win at least 1/2 of the polls being used. UGAY was voted #1 in only 1 (once got 2 polls) out of 5 polls each time back in those early years. This is why the University and the rest of the world only recognize 2 national championships for UGAY. Don’t claim things you don’t have.
By gator the dog catcher
November 24, 2006 03:12 PM | Link to this
Don’t let the SEC down again! West Virginia was bad enough.
By Buck Cochran in the NW
November 24, 2006 04:51 PM | Link to this
Dog Catcher, we won’t! Just hung up from phone conversation and we were talking about Tebow and Stafford. They live in J’ville, where I grew up. Next yr. for “The Party” we’re going to have a little family reunion. Will you be at the “Party”? I want to have a chance to meet some of these folks that post on these blogs. Watching LSU&ARK. McFadden is a one man circus so you better be ready next week. Think Ark. will come from behind and win this game?
By GT92
November 24, 2006 09:13 PM | Link to this
To BadgerDawg, Colorado would have killed Tech in 90? Not only did Colorado lose a game that year, they “won” a game against Missouri with 5 downs and they “won” another a game with a phantom clip call when the Rocket ran a kickoff back to beat them. Weak schedule - we played the #1 team in the nation and won. We played a 9-2 Nebraska team and demolished them. And of course we played the most powerful football program in the history of man (UGA of course) and laid a 40 spot on them at Sanford. You my friend are either delusional or don’t know your history. If I remember correctly UGA’s schedule in 1980 was considered weak at best. Their one victory of substance was against a Notre Dame team that a 1-9-1 Tech team tied.
Also, please quantify “debatable sources”? Are you implying that all NCs before the AP poll are considered suspect? That was the best they had at the time so they certainly didn’t consider it suspect. Using that logic then one day in the future when somebody with a brain is running college football and there is a 16 team playoff system we will look back and say everything prior to the playoff system was suspect because it isn’t what we are using now (now being in the future for us). Face the reality that not only is Tech a superior academic institution but it has more NCs in football.
By BadgerDawg
November 25, 2006 04:59 AM | Link to this
If you knew anything about the 5 down game Dorkfest92, you would know that they wouldn’t have pulled a “Ball” and spiked on 4th down. That is reserved for Reggie Ball and his bball counterpart Chris Webber. If it was listed properly they wouldn’t have wasted a down. As for debatable services, let’s refer to when there were 15 national champs and no one had any basis for ranking the teams and use that as a starting point.
By BuLLdawg
November 25, 2006 07:21 AM | Link to this
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ABOUT THIS FRONT PAGE HEADLINE STORY TODAY, SATURDAY:
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Michelle Hiskey ? Who the hell is that ?
.1.Bobby Dodd is a college-drop out.
.2.Bobby Dodd always lost to every time, and never beat Vince Dooley once.
.3.Vince Dooley was 19-6 against Georgia Tech.
.4.The Georgia Institute of Technology is on Probation all this season and next.
.5.Coach Richt is 5-0 vs. Georgia Tech.
.6.Richard Reynolds never attended Georgia Tech either.
.7.YELLOW-jackets beat no top-ranked football team this season.
.8.How can it be called The Governor’s Cup when 24 former UGA alumni are and have been the governor of this state, including the current one – how one-sided is that ?
.9. Music majors at Tech? And, more B.S. about the studies these football players – everyone ON PROBATION ALL THIS SEASON AND ALL NEXT SEASON study at Tech ?
.10.The facilities have nothing to do with it that the flats were cut in half and half the seats blown up at the stadium named for the college drop-out.
.11.Linda Dodd Lay also did not attend Tech, and if Winning is all that matters :57-36-5
.12.Waah. “We’re a better U.S. News & World Report Public Ranking college than UGA, but we are talking football, * and *Are On Probation All This Season and Next for playing as our best 11 football players the 3 years we did beat Georgia out of the last 15 11 ‘student’-athletes not a one of which would have been eligible to play at any college in the nation.”
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By BuLLdawg
November 25, 2006 07:48 AM | Link to this
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“BuLLdawg - FYI. (Pre BCS) In order to claim a national championship a team must win at least 1/2 of the polls being used. UGAY was voted #1 in only 1 (once got 2 polls) out of 5 polls each time back in those early years. This is why the University and the rest of the world only recognize 2 national championships for UGAY. Don’t claim things you don’t have.”
There is NO SUCH RULE. The NCAA is the authority on who wins championships in their sports, and they state in the **Official NCAA Football Records Book a copy of which I have in front of me as I type this, the same as you do NOT DENY that “UGA has Six (6) National Championships in Football.”
Furthermore since Colorado was Number 1 in the AP Poll, Berryman, DeVold, FACT, Football News, Football Research, FW, Matthews, National Championship Foundation, NFF, Sporting News and the USA/CNN Polls of 1990, then clearly by your bogus definition of what a National Champion is, then Colorado was clearly the National Champion in 1990.
Since Maryland was Number 1 in 1951 in DeVold, Dunkel, Football Research, National Championship Foundation and Sagarin Polls, Maryland was the National Champions in 1951. As far as that goes, Michigan State and Tennessee both by your definition, were both along with Maryland, all 3, ranked in more polls than Tech in 1951.
In 1927 Georgia is Number 1 National Champions in the nation by both The Boand Poll and Number 1 by The Poling Poll; therefore, again by your definition, Georgia in fact was National Champions in 1927, exactly as I read to you from The Official NCAA Football Records Book Page 68.
As well in 1942, as you yourself admit, Georgia is National Champion in Berryman, DeVold, Dunkel, Football Research, Helms, Likenhous, National Championship Foundation and in the Poling Poll.
The facts of the matter, according to the Official NCAA Records Book are that Georgia Tech does NOT HAVE MORE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS than Georgia.
You are inconsistent in your own application of what you lied about.
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By RealCollegeGraduate
November 25, 2006 11:12 AM | Link to this
BuLLdawg,
First, that’s an interesting spelling of your name. Do you just interject captital letters randomly?
Second, for the readers’ enlightenment, what is your relationship to the University of Georgia? You’re not one of those “sidewalk alumni” are you?
By nobull
November 25, 2006 06:53 PM | Link to this
this is to Buck…
Your boy played very well! The better team won.
By BuLLdawg
November 25, 2006 07:08 PM | Link to this
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Georgia 58 Wins Georgia Tech 36 with 5 ties.
Georgia gets ranked.
This will be the 10th consecutive season that only Georgia has been ranked in the Final AP Poll.
There is no other team who has accomplished this feat with us.
Tony Taylor awesome 6th year senior never lost (don’t have to discuss dive in the end zone), Paul Oliver The Man, and Matthew Stafford Player of the game for the catch by Mohamed Massaquoi in the end zone (don’t have to discuss the 13th Stafford fumble.)
Reggie Ball ?
Loser.
Coach Richt 6-0 vs. Georgia Tech.
Chandler Gailey 0-5 vs. Coach Richt.
Peach Bowl
South Carolina whooped Climpsum Farmers.
The ACC sucks.
What a crappy game at the Gator Bowl for the ACC ChUmpionship.
Speaking of ChUmpionships, Georgia Tech has had seven (7) seasons of zero (0) wins, 5 seasons of one (1) win only and 5 more seasons of 2 wins.
ChUmps.
Great comeback by The BuLLDawgs.
Best team Tech has had in forever, picked to lose by 3…
Loses by 3.
The BuLLDawgs Defense was awesome.
Tech has now lost not only 6 in a row, but has also lost 13 of the last 16.
That was so satisfying.
Knowing Tech would lose.
And, once again, losing.
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By David Vitner
November 27, 2006 06:40 PM | Link to this
Hi Chip,
I think the Bulldog nation looks at University of Georgia Basketball like University of Kentucky nation looks at Football. We went up there this year, and many of the seats were empty because everyone cares more about the horse racing in Kentucky than their homecoming football game which they won. At UGA, their only a thousand fans that will attend both football and basketball games at UGA. We depend more on the student to attend these basketball games both men and women and if they don’t. Well we NO DUKE!!!
By Dbow
November 29, 2006 07:31 AM | Link to this
It’s really a shame that Louis Williams was convinced to skip college basketball for a chance to play in a second tier league in Ft. Worth, TX. He would be the best shooting guard or playmaker in the country and UGA and Williams would be the benefactors. He has lost out on the chance to experience the best college has to offer and other than a few bucks has nothing but frustration to show for it.