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DEL.ICIO.USAnalyzing the positions
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
OK, there’s no sense in delaying the inevitable. The Tech-Georgia game is just days away and, at this point, it’s on the mind of everybody associated with both schools.
Today, I’m going to ask you all to be objective (yeah, right). I’m going to make a quick, two-minute position-by-position analysis, giving one team or the other an advantage in each area unless it’s absolutely indistinguishable, then adding them up to determine which team SHOULD win (doesn’t mean they will, of course).
Feel free to bash my determinations (as if you needed my permission). In fact, I’m looking forward to your feedback on this. This is one of those exercises in which there will be a lot of gray area. Remember, this is quick, off the top of my head:
Quarterback: Advantage Tech
Reggie Ball has had his share of problems over the years but you’re talking about a four-year starter versus a first-year freshman.
Offensive line: Advantage Georgia
This is a really tough call but I’m going to go with Georgia because it utilizes four seniors and a junior and has given up 13 sacks to Tech’s 15.
Tight end: Advantage Georgia
Martrez Milner has had his drop issues but is actually very productive and a good blocker. Tech at times has had to use a converted tackle out there.
Wide receiver: Advantage Tech
Are you kidding? There’s only one Calvin Johnson, and James Johnson is pretty darn good, too. Georgia has potential but that means only you haven’t done much yet.
Running back: Advantage Tech
Tashard Choice is a 1,000-yard rusher. Georgia hasn’t had a thousand-yarder since Musa Smith in 2002.
Place-kicker: Advantage Tech
If Brandon Coutu wasn’t injured, this would be different. But Georgia’s using its punter at the moment and Travis Bell has been solid if unspectacular.
Defensive line: Advantage Georgia
When healthy, the Dogs have one of the better front fours in the South. Tech gets most of its pressure from its linebackers. Georgia relies on its front four.
Linebackers: Advantage Georgia
Again, I’m leaning pretty hard on seniority and familiarity here, but the Dogs all-senior trio of Tony Taylor, Jarvis Jackson and Danny Verdun Wheeler have played a lot of football and have never lost to the Jackets. KaMichael Hall is a warrior for Tech and Philip Wheeler is a big-play waiting to happen. Very slight advantage.
Secondary: No advantage
I can’t find one at least. Both units are pretty good but neither is dominant. Giving up 237 against Duke doesn’t help Tech’s cause. But the way the Dogs looked against Vanderbilt and Kentucky and the second half against Tennessee doesn’t say much for them, either.
Punter: Advantage Tech
Another real close one but Durant Brook’s numbers are stellar –- 45.2-yard average, long of 63, 29 punts inside the 20 -– and the Yellow Jackets are No. 1 in the nation in net punting.
Returns: Advantage Georgia
The Dogs have gone the distance for touchdowns with three punts and a kickoff while Tech has none.
So that gives Tech the advantage in five areas and Georgia five. So that means the game will end in a tie and be decided in overtime, right? I’m not going to touch things like intangibles and coaching. I’ll let y’all handle that.
Suffice it to say, this ought to be a good one
Comments
By unbiased
November 21, 2006 04:07 PM | Link to this
QB Advantage to Ball and Tech? No wonder Vegas has UGA as a 2 point favorite…
By THE Hairy Dawg
November 21, 2006 04:09 PM | Link to this
UGA plays in the SEC, Tech is in the ACC…..UGA wins hands down!
By Always A Dawg
November 21, 2006 04:15 PM | Link to this
Like I said before. I’ve not missed a Georgia Football game since 1964. Tech has revenge in mind, while the Dogs need to salvage a season and regain respect. I have always found that you could throw the record book out the window between these two teams, eventhough the Dogs win most of them. They are usually close. Dogs 24, Tech 21
By godawg
November 21, 2006 04:17 PM | Link to this
Suffice it to say, this ought to be a good one.
In this game, pre-game analysis is pointless. When they tee it up you can just throw everything out the window. It will all depend on who brings what team and their level of motivation.
The one thing I DO know…it won’t be close. Everytime “they” say it will be, it ain’t! Mark my words…
Nice blog Chip…I hope it IS a “good one”, the right way. WOOF!
By GW
November 21, 2006 04:17 PM | Link to this
You left off REFS: Advantage-Tech, ACC guys are not going to want their potential champs beaten by a 7-4 SEC team. It really has me worried.
By Bigg Dawg
November 21, 2006 04:19 PM | Link to this
DO YOU REALLY THINK CHOICE IS BETTER THAN LUMPKIN? YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME? ALL THREE BACKS AT UGA ARE BETTER THAN CHOICE! AS FOR QB, I’M GLAD THEY HAVE BALL AND WE HAVE STAFFORD, BECAUSE WITHOUT CJ, BALL WOULD BE THE WORST QB IN THE COUNTRY!!!
By stinGTime
November 21, 2006 04:22 PM | Link to this
staff is good for about two TD’s…for Tech! lol That guy can surely throw picks!
By Former Dawg Fan
November 21, 2006 04:34 PM | Link to this
Dear Bloggers,
I took my nephew to Southlake Mall last night for photos with Santa. He got up on the lap and asked for a Calvin Johnson - Ga Tech jersey. That FAT BAST_RD! said I am sorry son, Santa is a Dawg Fan. He cried for two hours and broke my heart. I will never cheer for the Dawgs again. I will never go to Southlake again. I am also trying to get his butt fired! Tell Sonny to fix this! Go REGGIE BALL from now on for my whole family.
By St. Nick
November 21, 2006 04:44 PM | Link to this
Good for Santa…you should do a better job or raising your child.
By Jason
November 21, 2006 05:22 PM | Link to this
Advantage GT for QBs - Ball and Stafford throwing TDs for the Jackets! Sweet!
That is, when Stafford isn’t picking himself up from the turf every other play.
By Lane4411
November 21, 2006 05:26 PM | Link to this
The QB,which does not implode will in all probabilty, determine who wins. Stafford is a “baby”, and Ball has made minimal/if any progression in the last 4 yrs. Indicating,that Georgia receivers are inconsistent is a gross understatement - until last week could not catch a cold. Ball is terribly inconsistent. Johnson, is one of the best ever-imagine reception numbers if he had a QB. Game will not be determined on the ground-in my humble opinion. Mistakes will determine the winner.
Pick your poison!!!
By Stephen
November 21, 2006 05:30 PM | Link to this
Former Dawg Fan, that is the lamest thing I have ever read. He was probably just joking. What an idiot.
By La Jolla Dawg
November 21, 2006 05:50 PM | Link to this
I agree with Lane441, the QB position is a toss up. If Stafford plays like he did against Auburn, bye-bye bugs. If he plays like he did earlier in the season, the bugs will crush us. Reggie Ball has a tendency to wet his pants against the Dawgs, so while I agree with pretty much all of Chip’s other assessments, I don’t agree with this one. I think Stafford’s play is key. I also think the crowd noise/enthusiasm could play a crucial role. Goooooooo DAWGS!! Sending all of our best from the West Coast!
By jackson
November 21, 2006 06:13 PM | Link to this
We have not had a 1000 yeard rusher because we rotate a lot of backs in to the lineup. WE definitely have the better running backs even without Thomas Brown. Tech plays in the ACC, look at all the all the teams in the SEC that are ranked compared to the ACC. If Tech played in the SEC they would never win a title.
By JackDaniels
November 21, 2006 06:14 PM | Link to this
Even Reggie with his bad play at times is better than a freshman Matthew “Pick” Stafford…..the guy is a freaking turnover machine and if he turns it over Saturday he will become the QB in the Mark Richt era to lose to Georgia Tech….and I think he will……he’s the most overrated Georgia player in decades. Take that Doggies….Go Jackets…….Vanderbilt…LOL.. Kentucky…LOL…..Hahahahahahahaha
By True Dawg
November 21, 2006 06:20 PM | Link to this
I dont think Ball is productive under pressure. If we get pressure on Ball he will choke, leaving Choice the game. Face it Bug fans he cant win you a game. He only rushed for 118 yards against Duke.
Stafford will continue his improvement in this game. The only reason Georgia’s backs dont have over 1000 yards is simple…we have 3. Choice is the main back.
Gooo Dawgs…..Sic em!!!!
By Buck Cochran in the NW
November 21, 2006 06:20 PM | Link to this
La Jolla Dawg, you nailed it. Chip, I can’t believe that you don’t realize what happened in the AU game. Matthew Stafford had to go through what he did but his learnig curve was astounding and then it all came together. Anybody that thinks he hasn’t learned his lesson just hasn’t paid any attention. Will he make a mistake? Sure he will but think back to the Ky. game. He led the team on scoring drive and we were ahead untill the “D” let the ‘Cats have a long scoring drive. Then he threw an int. trying to bring the team back. No, the difference in the ball game Sat. will be the play of Matthew Stafford as the Dawg “Trigger Man”. I’ve said it earlier and I’m sticking with it, Dawgs by 15 and Stafford with 2 passing scores.
By gjg
November 21, 2006 06:24 PM | Link to this
Good work, Chip. IF Reggie Ball stays healthy, UGA will win. He will NOT beat UGA.
By Buck Cochran in the NW
November 21, 2006 06:25 PM | Link to this
BTW Chip, good blog. BTW, Jack Daniels, did you have a fifth or a qt. before you posted that air head post?
By Reality Dawg
November 21, 2006 06:29 PM | Link to this
Chip,
You must have been watching a different Georgia team than me this year. One of the better front fours in the south. Give me a break! Surely you meant to say Georgia likes to get pressure with their front four. Yor saw what the possibilities were against Auburn. Lack of production from the front four has caused WM to get way too complicated for the ability and experience of the current linebackers and secondary. A good performance out of the front four would have given us another 10 or 11 win season. When two of the leading tacklers on the team are the safties, level one and level two on defense are not getting the job done.
By austindog
November 21, 2006 06:38 PM | Link to this
I understand GT has a good team this year and Georgia’s been hot & cold (ok, mostly cold), but does anyone really see Georgia losing on Saturday? Last home game, an extra week to rest and think about it, extra week for the coaches to prepare… I guess we’ll see.
By JYD
November 21, 2006 06:53 PM | Link to this
gjg, “If Reggie Ball stays healthy, UGA will win.” Thats classic. I’m sure the Tech staff is packing extra underoos for Ball this week. I’d alot rather see him wet his undies when he’s feeling good and healthy.
By Former Dawg Fan
November 21, 2006 06:55 PM | Link to this
Stephen BLOW ME! The kid did not need to hear that grap from a dime store Santa. I heard your dad came out of the closet today….just joking! How does that sound? You must be a John Kerry apologist, he was telling a joke right. F-YOU!!!
By frisco pete
November 21, 2006 06:56 PM | Link to this
Female undergrads advantage: UGA
Female alumni advantage: UGA
that makes it a 7-5 advantage for UGA
By jim
November 21, 2006 06:59 PM | Link to this
Go Dawgs! To Hell with the nerds
By Stephen
November 21, 2006 07:31 PM | Link to this
Former Dawg Fan, I’m sorry that you let a “dime store Santa” get under your skin. I hope your life improves soon. Go Dawgs!
P.S.- No, I do not support John Fairy
By Ralph
November 21, 2006 08:07 PM | Link to this
As for:
Secondary: No advantage
“I can’t find one at least. Both units are pretty good but neither is dominant. Giving up 237 against Duke doesn’t help Tech’s cause. But the way the Dogs looked against Vanderbilt and Kentucky and the second half against Tennessee doesn’t say much for them, either.”
Most of the 237 yards Tech gave up to Duke was done in the second half when the game was out of reach and/or against the second string. Duke’s regulars played the entire game.
By Kendall
November 21, 2006 08:44 PM | Link to this
Is this game that is the “Revenge of the Nerds” game. Nah. Nerds lose. Again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. Yeah, thats 6. Dont need a pocket protector and slide rule for that one, dorks.
By mike
November 21, 2006 10:10 PM | Link to this
CALVIN JOHNSON WILL BE A NON-FACTOR IN THIS GAME. THE REASON IS BECAUSE THE ONLY PLAYER IN AMERICA WHO CAN STOP HIM WILL BE ON THE FIELD SATURDAY……..REGGIE BALL. HE HAS PROVEN TIME AND TIME AGAIN THAT HE HAS WHAT IT TAKES TO SHUT DOWN CALVIN JOHNSON. CJ WOULD HAVE WON THE HEISMANN IF TECH HAD A DECENT QB
By medical team
November 21, 2006 10:12 PM | Link to this
There has been a terrible accident I am sorry to report. Appearantly a young man named Matthew Stafford stopped suddenly, and it took 3 crowbars and the jaws of life to extract Buck Cochran from his butt.
By AltamahaDawg
November 21, 2006 10:21 PM | Link to this
So, you used to be a Dawg fan huh, but now you have changed your mind over that? And now you will “cheer” for Tech and not UGA? I wouldn’t worry about your kid being too sad, sounds like in your house you will all be Ohio State fans next week anyway.
By feverdawg
November 21, 2006 10:24 PM | Link to this
Quarterback: even I thought Reggie played a good game last year, particularly with his feet, but I really believe Stafford is starting to show why he can eally be a special player
Tight End: Dawgs Martrez Milner is a heck of tight end and a hell of a young man, but he has to be more consistant catching the ball. If he does he becomes a huge advantage for the Dawgs
Offensive Line: Dawgs What was thought to be a weak spot has actually turned into a pretty good line
Wide Reciever: Tech Georgia does have talent at the position and have been holding onto the ball lately, but Calvin Johnson is the best Reciever in college football
Running Back: even Tashard choice has 1000 yards for tech and Georgia has lumpkin and Ware. UGA also has probably the best fullback in the country in Brannon Southerland
Place kicking: Tech With brandon Coutu the best kicker in the country out this is no contest. Big disadvantge for the DAWGS
Defensive Line: Dawgs Dawgs have a great tandem at D end and the tackles are solid with ray gant and jeff owens starting
Linebackers: Dawgs I think both are strong here, but the dawgs depth and leadership froom this position have to be an advantage
D Backs: Even Both teams have talent at this position, but the team with the best defensive backfield play in this game gain a key advantage
Punting: Tech Gordon Ely Kelso is a very good punter, but UGA has had some costly blocked punts this year
Returns: Dawgs With Mikey Henderson healthy again this could be a big advantage for UGA
By BirdDawg
November 21, 2006 10:34 PM | Link to this
Here are some slogans that the faculty over at the North Avenue Trade School / GTU / Bug Central are using to lure recruits to play football and basketball.
“The NATS School of Business: Helping 99.9% of GTU athletes get into Tech.”
“Georgia Tech: Where Ossama sends his best and his brightest to learn about nuclear energy, high explosives, and undercover surveilance of places like Washington DC and Atlanta!!!”
“GTU: Where you’ll have no problem finding time for studying or practicing because there isn’t one good looking girl on campus to distract you!”
“NATS: We made our stadium smaller to make sure less visiting fans can get in to boo you!”
“Bug Football: Our Athletics Director Guarantees Not Being Able to Win 10 Games Or Remain Competative Every Year!”
“GTU: Go to Georgia to see the World. Come to Tech to see the Galaxy! Exotic Locals! Vulcan! Klingon! Hoth!”
“Tech: Go where No Nerd Has Gone Before! The inside of a girl’s bedroom! (girl not included)”
What do y’all think? I think them are sure some good slogans! I only wish we UGA rednecks were smart like them bugs from GTU!
By TheTruth
November 21, 2006 11:02 PM | Link to this
This just in, the winner of this Friday’s Peach County vs Langrange game will be Tech’s opponent for the ACC title game. Vegas already has the winner of the high school game as a 13 point favorite.
By LADAWG
November 22, 2006 12:13 AM | Link to this
Even out here in LA, all the PAC 10 Football Fans are predicting a UGA win. Ball is the worst quarterback in the history of Tech. He is good for at least 2 picks and a well timed fourth down throw away. Dawgs win in a Romp. I can’t wait to hear all the whining on Monday. Maybe then the tech grads that work for me will actually be productive.
By JT
November 22, 2006 12:44 AM | Link to this
QB advantage to Tech?!?! They have the best weapon in college football and could only put up 7 on UNC. Johnson had less than 50 yards receiving because his QB is a complete and total idiot. Ball is awful. Four year starter or not, Stafford was a better QB last year than Reggie Ball. UGA has at least three QB’s better than Reggie Ball.
By Jesus Christ
November 22, 2006 04:06 AM | Link to this
For what it’s worth, I’m taking UGA (Dad’s favorite team) and laying the the two points. The comment on QB advantage shall be dealt with in your book of life, Mr. Towers. Blasphemer! You should hit your knees faster than a Tech student wanting an “A.” Let us pray for messrs. Towers, Strickland and other ignorant sluts.
Aaaaaaa….men……….. woof. Peace be with you.
By spud
November 22, 2006 05:27 AM | Link to this
this game will be won by special teams. I think it will be very close until the 4th quater who has the advantage kicking field goals?
By g-tech
November 22, 2006 07:53 AM | Link to this
Georgia has the advantage at running back with their depth. It’s close at linebacker, but I give the edge to Tech. Wheeler and KaMichael Hall are the heart and soul of Tech’s defense.
By 82DAWG
November 22, 2006 08:01 AM | Link to this
Lane4411 said it best, Mistakes will determine the winner. If Georgia limits its turnovers to 2 and receivers drop no more than 2, Dawgs win. If the receivers and QB revert back to their pre-Auburn games, then this will be another frustrating afternoon. My guess is they will revert back. I really hope not, but one great game on the heels of seven bad ones doesn’t exactly mark a trend.
By Cottoneye Joe
November 22, 2006 09:14 AM | Link to this
What Won’t Happen:
Native Americans wishing the rest of us a Happy Thanksgiving.
Santa changes his red suit w/ black belt to a gold suit w/white belt.
Finding 12 good looking women from the Tech campus to make up a 2007 calendar.
Mark Richt aging gracefully in the YEARS ahead at UGa.
Ga Tech beating back the senior class of UGa on the field of play Saturday.
Ga Tech finding the Top 10 in the football polls of 2006.
Another Herschel Walker at UGa.
A top 5 recruiting class at UGa winning a national championship.
Jerrell finding peace with the world.
By Z
November 22, 2006 09:57 AM | Link to this
CottonEye: what won’t happen: you ever getting laid because you’re a sexist pig.
By Cottoneye Joe
November 22, 2006 10:07 AM | Link to this
Z: Women love me. The proofs in the pudding, get it?
By Z
November 22, 2006 10:19 AM | Link to this
HA! In your dreams. Half the stuff you wrote makes no sense at all, but that’s pretty typical of your posts. Go back to the hick town you came from; there’s no place for you here.
By Ft Worth Dawg
November 22, 2006 10:29 AM | Link to this
What does a UGA graduate say to a Tech graduate?
As your attorney, I advise you to plead guilty to all three felony charges and hope for leniency.
By Z
November 22, 2006 10:39 AM | Link to this
Mark Richt is walking on the beach the night before UGA is to leave for its [Music City] bowl game, and he comes across this really ornate bottle lying in the sand. He picks it up and brushes the sand off and out pops a genie who tells Mark he’ll grant him one, and only one, wish. Mark thinks for a minute then says “You know, I’ve always been interested in great engineering feats. I’d like to have a bridge built from Athens, GA all the way across the Atlantic Ocean to Europe, and it’d be called the Mark Richt Bridge.” The genie immediately starts to fret. “Mark, that would be nearly impossible, the sheer volume of concrete needed is prohibitive, the sea is thousands of feet deep in spots, lives would be lost… It simply can’t be done. You’ll have to think of something else - anything else, anything at all.” So Mark thought for another minute, then he said with great enthusiasm “Then I want to beat Florida, Tennessee, and Arkansas next season, bring the national championship home to Athens, and prove to all the world that a flashy offense with a great QB like Stafford wins championships.” The genie didn’t even hesitate a single second before he said “Do you want that bridge two-lane or four?”
By Cottoneye Joe
November 22, 2006 10:56 AM | Link to this
Z: Techie. That one’s been told a hundred different ways for a hundred years. Try to get out more often. And Z, for you to understand my prior post on What Won’t Happen, you would actually have to read through these blogs instead of jumping in midstream with all the knowledge of a toad. Loser.
By Z
November 22, 2006 11:05 AM | Link to this
Ahh, CottonEye, you don’t seem to get that it’s all in fun. Why take everything so personally? It’s the holidays! And I have read through the entire blog; I just didn’t find anything worth commenting on. Get a life, crack a smile once in awhile!!
By Cottoneye Joe
November 22, 2006 11:13 AM | Link to this
Z: I enjoyed our ‘encounter of the weird kind’, but now I must go and round up my Ga Tech grads. The underlings are out back smoking crack and I need their egineering skills digging a culvert in my pasture. Have a great Thansgiving.
By brandondawg
November 22, 2006 11:44 AM | Link to this
if this chan rumor is correct we definitely need to win saturday to keep the chanmobile at the flats….GO DAWGS!!!
By crs
November 22, 2006 12:46 PM | Link to this
Georgia is still has the most talent and coupled with playing at home, UGA should not, on paper, lose this football game. That said, Tech has really embraced the “TEAM” concept this year and have overachieved considerably. I think UGA wins the game 24-21.
By Denise
November 22, 2006 01:51 PM | Link to this
GEORGIA TECH… all the way BABY!! For all you Georgia fans…I’m looking forward to seeing the Dawgs crawl back into their Dawg houses….the bees are buzzing ….ZZZZZZZZZZZZ…….
By Buckless
November 22, 2006 02:01 PM | Link to this
Buck, have you ever actually met staff?
By Buck Cochran in the NW
November 22, 2006 02:36 PM | Link to this
Buckless, no, I’ve just checked his backgrounf and starting last spring really studied his progess very closely. While others have done nothing but point out mistakes, I noted those but watched closely to see if he was learning and progressing. I saw the step backward but I’d see 2 steps forward. Buckless, I’ll be repeating myself but the AU game was a perfect example. People talked about the 2 fumbles. 1 of the dumbles was a bad play because he didn’t go down. The other one I didn’t hold that against him at all because he had nothing but grass in front og him and the AU guy just made a great play. Or another example. The SC. game on Sat. in Columbia. The starter goes down and he’s called off the bench to take over in only the 2nd time he ever had a Dawg uniform on. He throws 3ints. True,but, there was one to MoMass that was as close to pass iterference as anything I’ve ever seen, 1 a horrible pass and the other onr the receiver let the other guy catch it. So you had on the record 3 ints. but people forgot that he led the team to a win. Showed he was a “Cool Hand Luke”, when he’s on his own 3 yd. line and audibles to a QB draw, picks 15 yds. and a 1st down. Those are the type of things that have me convinced that the young man is as good a freshman QB that I’ve ever seen and I haven’t mentioned the passes he’s completed. Sorry everyone, I went a little long . Won’t happen again. Did I answer your question, Buckless?
By Buck Cochran in the NW
November 22, 2006 03:07 PM | Link to this
I posted but I guess it didn’t go through. It was long
By Cuz
November 22, 2006 06:02 PM | Link to this
You go Buck, I will try and talk to you through the blog during the game. How is the recovery going? Mine is better except I once again picked up something to heavy today and am paying for it now.
I agree Staff should be primed for this contest on Saturday. Go Dawgs, Sic em, Woof, Woof, Woof!!!
By Josh Huffman
November 23, 2006 03:14 PM | Link to this
Is this Guy who posted this serious. Have you not seen Kregg “the man” Lumpkin run the football. Great so the Tech running back has got over a 1000 yards rushing i would so rather take Lumpkin over any Tech RB by far. Im sorry but you are also playing “Between the Hedges” Tech doesnt have a chance. Go Dawgs… P.S. Stafford is about to light it up againt Techs Defense OH MAN I CANT WAIT!!!!!!!
By dawgone!
November 28, 2006 12:53 PM | Link to this
What is agrivating is that we beat Auburn and Tech at the end of the year and still we dont break into the top 25. I guess we deserve that after loosing to KU and Vandy… It isn’t like both those schools didnt give everyone fits this year… West Coast Bias in the BCS again this year not that I would expect anyone to beat OSU…