UGA

By austindog

November 6, 2006 04:15 PM | Link to this

Carter, does every thought really need a new paragraph?

If you’re using that rationale this blog should be no paragraphs.

By honest_abe

November 6, 2006 04:15 PM | Link to this

i think people are making too big a deal about starting stafford.. when joe t struggled against tenn.. everyone was ready to take their lumps with stafford.. now lets give him some DAMN time. he’s a true freshmen.. and all of this experience can only help next year.

which leads us to our true problem. the offensive line.. dont’ really feel like talkin about it.. because most dawg fans know just how bad the offensive line situation has been.. if you don’t give a qb time.. regardless if he 18 or 80.. he’s going to make some mistakes.

CMR needs to seriously anaylze the state of this program…… i think the player development has been the most discouraging aspect of CMR’s tenure. we can’t continue to recruit blue chip recruits and then watch as they underperform throughout their career.. and CMR has to stop over thinking things…… kentucky couldn’t stop lump…he should have come up with some ways to get him the ball… i’m sick of hearing his excuses for not running in the 2nd half!

By AltamahaDawg

November 6, 2006 04:16 PM | Link to this

I think the only safe prediction is going to be the barrage of insults hurled at Carter for saying some obviously realistic stuff here.

By phipps

November 6, 2006 04:32 PM | Link to this

Dear Coach MR. Please run Lump every play against Auburn so you can shut up all ignorant Georgia fans who think they know more about coaching than you. If Lump had run evey down against Florida, Ga. would not have scored. Please run against Auburn, please, please, please!!!!!!!!

By TheJayCock

November 6, 2006 04:34 PM | Link to this

Get used to it Dawg fans you are going to be stuck in the 4th or 5th position for the next several seasons.

By Ringleader

November 6, 2006 04:35 PM | Link to this

I think of all the freshman quarterbacks played this year the only worse waste was by Meyer of Tebo. We certainly would not be worse off had Joe T and Joe Cox run the team and let Stafford sit. Being at all games this season including Kentucky, Stafford has not progressed at all. He refuses to step up in the pocket, and does not set his feet, two interceptions, one the first offensive play of the game, and the other being the last offensive play pretty much confirm he is playing no better now than summer camp. Much like Shockley his freshman year, and you can read his calls in the stands. He may be another hot recruit who never makes the transition. I am now wondering if Cox and Barnes were a recruiting bust, or if we failed to develop them. Either way recruiting or development the end result is on the staff. So far as Lumpkin not getting any second half snaps because of the defense, explain why Ware did get snaps facing the same defense. And why are we throwing out of our end zone the first offensive play of the game, and why are we throwing the ball on the one yard to end the half. And to say that our schemes on defense are good and we are not executing is bunk. Every team we have played since Colorado has known exactly how to attack this scheme. And for Kentucky to run the ball down the field to win the game, few passes thrown, you would have to see it to believe it. And to praise Vandy and to admit in your pregame against Kentucky we were going to have to hide some things is junk. Just line up and run the ball and we win those two games, no problem.

By tim

November 6, 2006 04:37 PM | Link to this

cheers to that altama! that has been just about the only constant in this season.

By ArmyDawg

November 6, 2006 04:40 PM | Link to this

Hey Carter…do something meaningful and tell us how the losses are effecting recruiting.

we watch the games and know the limited options on offense.

By War Eagle

November 6, 2006 04:43 PM | Link to this

Hey abe, i certainly think you correct in your comments, recruits etc. If Lumpkin and Ware came through the Auburn system they would have be more productive than a QB oriented offense as CMR. I like Lumpkin in HS, and was hoping Auburn would have land him. He needs 20-25 carries a game and the 1000 yd. plus would be him..good back

By JB

November 6, 2006 04:47 PM | Link to this

Georgia’s problem this year: The team is divided over the QB situation and the players are not responding to the coachs. plain and simple. you don’t get this bad this quick. We are not just losing football games, we are a bad team. This is not Lsu and Auburn beating us, these are the basement dwellers. The team that runs out of the tunnel weekly has no desire to win ( a couple of exceptions). It starts at the top, and the QB situation started it. JT3, MS and Cox…. And Barnes all have their supporters, AND THE HOUSE IS DIVIDED ! THAT IS THE PROBLM, FACTOR IN OUR QB PLAY, TURNOVERS AND THE FACT THE DEFENSE IS IN A NO WIN SITUATION BECAUSE OF IT !

By Lowcountry Bulldawgs

November 6, 2006 04:48 PM | Link to this

Hey guys 2 games on ESPN Classic this week 1986 and 1994 UGA/Auburn game if anyone ants to check the listings for TIVO.

By honest_abe

November 6, 2006 04:49 PM | Link to this

phipps that was cute… i guess you are aiming that little comment at me.. i’ve never proclaimed to know more than CMR.. but you seem like a smart little twit… so why don’t you chew on some of these stats?

kentucky gave up: (rushing yards) 363 yards to Louisville 205 yards to Ole Miss 235 yards to Florida 147 yards to CENTRAL MICHIGAN!!!! 190 yards to South Carolina 268 yards to LSU

yes georgia had 159 total rushing yards, but lump got most of that in the first half! it’s a fact.. lump should’ve run for at least a buck 40 …. period.

so stop defending cmr at everything he does… he is not GOD.. he makes mistakes like everyone else.. its just too bad he’s to stubborn to fix some of his..

By Not-A-Blogger

November 6, 2006 04:54 PM | Link to this

Two carries for Lumpkin in the third quarter, one carry in the fourth, after he was killin’ em in the first half.

Is the young qb better served throwing 12 int’s, or being part of a winning effort?

By JERSEYDAWG

November 6, 2006 04:58 PM | Link to this

As a transplanted Yankee, I know what its like to suffer bad seasons ie, JETS,GIANTS,METS. But all teams have bad years. Next year will be a stellar year Moreno will hit the holes quicker than any back we have now! Thats been our problem our line could not keep the holes open. I may be bragging but Moreno is a class act and we get Sean Bailey back next year,remember the catches against LSWHO! Stafford will come around and our D will be better. Missed FIELD GOALS COST US TWO WINS. ELY-KELSO WILL WIN ONE, MAYBE TWO OF OUR REMAINING GAMES GO DAWGS!!!!

By PiedmontDawg

November 6, 2006 05:21 PM | Link to this

Carter,

Is Richt committing the sins of his predecessors in not developing the raw talent of his best recruits and not motivating the average recruits to play over their heads?

Seems to be the case, as I can’t imagine that vandy and ky have anywhere near the talent that we have…

If so, how is this problem solved?

By PiedmontDawg

November 6, 2006 05:26 PM | Link to this

Oh, and another quesiton for Carter…

Do you have any indication that we are playing to other teams weaknesses, or are we just going out there and running the plays that we’d run regardless of what the scouting report may say?

It just seems to me that when I watch Spurrier, Meyer & Fulmer that they modify their game to take advantages of other teams’ problems, and that we play the same game (drop pass on 1st, short gain on slow inside handoff on 2nd, failed screen on 3rd, punt) each week.

By mcdwag

November 6, 2006 05:27 PM | Link to this

it still comes down to intensity and pride-maybe you can coach it maybe you can’t but somewhere along the way UGA lost it-my big question is where are the seniors-T. Taylor is the only one who has stepped up on Defense and Nick Jones on offense-other than that there is no leadership on this team-hopefully they can find some heart-maybe they should show film clips of H. Ward playing three different positions-leaving everything on the field or E. Zier battling every single play-those were not very good teams but they didn’t quit and they played with passion something this crew is woefully lacking-these guys play scared

By PiedmontDawg

November 6, 2006 05:29 PM | Link to this

I’m on a roll here Carter,

Do you have any indication that Richt is emotional at all with his players?

We’ve all heard the stories about how Tubberville went into the locker room at the 1/2 of the Fla game and tore it up…

Does Richt have that in him? Is he capable of kicking some arse when needed?

By Wes

November 6, 2006 06:16 PM | Link to this

There is a line from Remember the Titans that comes to mind right now. “Attitude reflects leadership.” It seems to me that CMR is taking a rather ho-hum attitude to all of this, and it’s obviously carrying over to his players. It starts by making losing acceptable…then it becomes habit.

By dallas

November 6, 2006 06:20 PM | Link to this

i dont understand why it is so hard to find a kicker that can make a field goal, bailey is on a freekin scholarship, my high school kicker was money inside 40 yards and had a long of 52,how can bailey not make 30 and 35 yarders

By AltamahaDawg

November 6, 2006 06:43 PM | Link to this

abe, tell you what I get tired of is this lame crybaby response anytime somebody calls a poster down who just made some unsusbstantiated, simpleton, repeat of a critism and can’t back it up with anything but thier opinion with the same ol’ “oh I guess you think the coach is PERFECT huh” . the man explained why Lump did not get more touches in the second half. It’s what they though was the correct path. You calling it an a “excuse” doenst mean it wasnt at least the best option. It doesnt work. (actually i didnt think that was the deciding factor, but thats just me) Congradulation, you correctly made a historical observation. But you are attempting to predict a hypothetical outcome, BIG difference. I guess if they had tried and Lump had been stuff a few times, you’d basically have nothing to say today. And you have NO earthly idea if that would have happened or NOT. Frankly you really have nothing to loose taking that position because its all hindsight and you have to do ZERO to prove you are right. Just point out what didnt work and you look correct huh? I’m also going to go out on a limb and say you didnt have the foggiest notion what defesive aligment KY adjusted to, or what we even are capapble of doing to counter that. You just read coaches comments and decided you didn’t like that answer, and since we lost, and you dont have to make those type of on the field judgment calls, what the hell. Critisize.

The point is not that Coaches are Gods, or even that the calls they make work, or were ever right. The point is they have to make them, so by that fact alone, they were right according to thier perspective at the time. maybe it doesnt work, but the idea that you or anyone not there has a better idea, is so rediculous. especially when you announce it like it was such a no brainer. I dont think it was, or they would have done it. If reasonable people look at the same situation and come to different conclusion, obviously one of them knew something the other didn’t or one of them had the wrong facts. Now from a purely objective standpint, who would you bet knew something the other one didnt, You or him?

But just for kicks , if it so obvious we should have run Lump more, why did we not? did the coaches not want to win? why did they shift gears? why?

By AltamahaDawg

November 6, 2006 06:46 PM | Link to this

Wes, what reaction would you prefer? And I assume you are talking his public face since you have no idea what he says or feels in private.

By Ft Worth Dawg

November 6, 2006 07:14 PM | Link to this

My observations:

1. If you watch the pre-game of UGA-Florida, the team is surrounding Coach Richt and both he and they are obviously pumped up. I don’t know what goes on in the halftime locker room but claims of a perpetually ho-hum Coach seem suspect. I seem to recall hearing that Coach Richt was extremely ticked off when Tech jumped on the UGA logo centerfield in 2001 and the 51-7 score resulted (but that score may have come about regardless of what any coach would have said).

2. Brian VanGorder is NOT doing well at Georgia Southern. I don’t know anything about that program so maybe that’s not the coach’s fault. The Eagles are 3-6. I’m not saying Willie doesn’t need to be replaced, but I would question bringing VanGorder back.

3. I would like for Caleb King to come to UGA. I understand that he’s looking for a school that will use a RB like a reacehorse. Last I heard, he was leaning towards Auburn — any changes?

4. Didn’t Coach Richt fire a coach recently for mysterious reasons? I think this shows that he is capable. (I like the idea of raiding the Miami Dolphins for Derek Dooley, Travis Jones and/or Kirby Smart.)

By AltamahaDawg

November 6, 2006 07:42 PM | Link to this

Ft worth, ga southern made a living for almost 20 yrs running the triple option. the ol Hamm Bone they called it (tracy hamm won like 3 NC at QB. basically, BVG took over a program that frankly had been slowly declining. And now he is totally revamping the style more suited for D1 football. He got the job because the last coach was Fired, if that tells you something. Plus what the heck is anyone talking about? He aint coming back any more than CMR is going back to be OC at Fl State.

I don’t remember CMR being all that demonstative even kicking LSU to win an very unlikely SEC crown. So its no surprise to me to NOT see him visably losing his cool during the lows. You might could point to a single “snapshot ” here or there, but I dont think its fair to make any broad assumptions about his demeaner this year. I’m pretty sure the 2001 score was more related to skill players as you said.

abe im still puzzled by the comment that CMR was “too stubborn” to fix some of his mistakes. Care to name a few and your rationale to blame those recuring due to stuborness?

By warriorchief

November 6, 2006 07:57 PM | Link to this

Caleb King will not come to UGA and no other back that is a true good running back because the UGA coaches seems like they don’t want a 100 yd rusher they want to throw and throw and throw and turn the ball over so a weak defense can’t stop the other teams. They aren’t going to run a back regardless if he is hot and gaining yards. I know H. Walker and V. Dooley are gone and not coming back but Dooley’s coaching helped the defense by not turning the ball over and playing conservative, people didn’t like that!! Today’s coaches want to score fast, not willing to pound the ball for 3 to 5 yds a play, and then punt and play GOOD defense.
Just a flustered DAWG FAN like so many others when you loose to Vandy and UK and bearly beat Miss St.

By Chris McAndrew

November 6, 2006 08:06 PM | Link to this

Enjoyed your blog for once Carter.

By War Eagle

November 6, 2006 08:34 PM | Link to this

FtWorth Dawg, I though all along from sources at Auburn, Caleb was headed to UGA. This has changed in the past couple weeks. If signing date was today he would be a War Eagle. Auburn is a running oriented offense who has sent many to NFL, Coach Richt had Warren Dunn and Musa Smith, whom Donnan recruited, as the only 1000 yards rushers in his career, while CTT produces top rushers in the SEC every year.Where would you go, 8-10 carries a game or 20-25 a game? Kenny Irons will have 25 plus carries Sat. against UGA.

By Recruit watch

November 6, 2006 08:42 PM | Link to this

Hope future recruits are not reading this crap.

By HT

November 7, 2006 12:45 AM | Link to this

The 4 Losses to TN-VANDY-FL-KY have been caused by [1] the collapse of the defense in the 2nd half of the season, [2] missing critical field goals and extra points and [3] FUMBLES, not interceptions. TN-VANDY-FL-KY GOT 42 PTS OFF OF LUMPKIN, RAILEY AND TERANINSKY TURNOVERS, WHILE THEY GOT ZERO POINTS OFF OF STAFFORD INTERCEPTIONS. Why blame a freshman for a senior class that has collapsed on both defensive and offensive lines. Stafford’s interceptions resulted in zero points for KY and zero for FL, Vandy, TN. He has 9 interceptions in 5 games but they have resulted in zero points to the 4 teams that beat us. The defense has given up 144 points in the last 5 games [29 pts/game] and we have lost 4 out of 5 games. In our first 5 wins, the defense only gave up only 24 pts total. How can you ever win if you are giving up 29 pts a game. If it keeps up, AUBURN AND TECH games will be over by the end of the 1st Quarter. The offense is scoring enough points [24 per game] to be 8-2 or 9-1 if the defense had not fallen apart. Against KY, the defense gave up a game-winning-drive again, just like Vandy, after Stafford engineered the go-ahead touchdown. The key point of the game was when GA was down 17-14 with 8 mins to go and Stafford engineered a 83 yd scoring drive and ate up 5 ½ mins of time to put us ahead 20-14. Then Andy Bailey missed the Extra Point for his 7th missed points for the day [2 other missed FGs] All the defense had to do was stop a 70 yd drive over 11 plays to win the game with 3 mins 40 sec left in the game. Instead KY goes 70 years on 11 plays eating up chunks of turf at 6, 11, 5 , 14, 9, 6, 7, 8, 1 [for a 1st down], 3 [for a TD] leaving only .59 seconds. Stafford only had 59 seconds to go 63 yds and the odds of an interception is likely. This loss lies at the feet of the DEFENSE, not Stafford

By Buck Cochran in the NW

November 7, 2006 05:03 AM | Link to this

HT, you’re right and you’ve done your homework. Alta, Carter did make some good points and Ft. Worth Dawg, I think that a lot of people are mistaking BVG’s out going, pump’um up style of leadership with his coaching abilities. I, for one , don’t want him coming back to Athens. Me? I’ve got several ideas but I’m not coaching so ideas are all I can offer. I differ with MR with respect to what a fan can offer but even the knowledgeable fan can’t know everything that’s going on. I do hope some coaching adjustments are made but MR WOULD BE A FOOL, WITH TWO GAMES YET TO PLAY TO START MAKING CHANGES OR NAMING NAMES. We were in that Reptile game and could have won. Reptile relative said that a bunch of them were talking on the Monday after the game saying that we won the game but why do we feel as if we didn’t. Final note, MR has noticed the problem we’ve had on “D” and mentioned it. That’s all he’s going to do before the season is over.

By Dbow

November 7, 2006 07:24 AM | Link to this

Carter, you need alot of help in so many areas - why don’t you attend some coaching clinics over the off-season so you can write with some minimum of credibility? I used to want Furman Bisher to retire and get out of the way but I now know he can’t because there is nobody on the horizon who can fill his shoes. Not Bradley, not Schultz, and certainly not you.

By Wes

November 7, 2006 08:22 AM | Link to this

Altamaha, this mornings article about CMR quotes him saying something to the effect of, it’s not realistic to expect one team to dominate this conference year in and year out.

He’s probably right, but why let your players hear you say something like that? (he’s made a few similar comments before the loss to Kentucky as well.)

All that does is plant the bug that it’s okay to lose a few because we’re “rebuilding.” Don’t get me wrong, I know that’s a bit of a stretch, but don’t you think it’s floating around in the back of some of the players minds?

Listen, I think we have a GREAT head coach, and I have faith in him to right the ship, but motivation (especially in a season like this) HAS to come from the top! some of the players still seem to be playing hard, but it doesn’t seem like there’s much of a sense of urgency from the players to get it turned around this season. And that, I do think falls on the head coaches shoulders.

By honest_abe

November 7, 2006 09:00 AM | Link to this

alt.. you really hold a grudge eh? also, when did you become the official defender of CMR. he could drive this program off of a cliff and you’d still think he was right and make excuses for him.. (i’m assuming you’re probably on that uses phrases such as “we must stay the course” LOL)

let me get one thing straight, i have never called for CMR’s head. he frustrates me sometimes because he makes some decisions that leave me scratching my head.. having said that i still think he’s the best guy for the job..

my only wish is that he needs to do what is best for the program and not in his own interest… his whole coaching staff is filled with a bunch of bums.. he needs an offensive coordinator.. he needs a new defensive coordinator.. he needs a new receivers coach, a new o-line coach…

the biggest issue with players coming out of georgia has been player development.. carter made a great point about brandon miller being the #1 linebacker in the state several years ago.. now whether it be because of horrible schemes or someone just not coaching them up.. he is nowhere near the level of production that most people have expected.. and that is just one of numerous examples..

in terms of play calling.. the sprint draw.. how many times have we seen this miserable play go for negative yards.. how many times have we asked him to stop using it SO MUCH! but no it’s a major part of his game plan.

with a true freshmen qb who has had a problem turning the ball over… it would seem obvious to game plan around lumpkin… pound the ball.. open up some play action.. get an early lead..then pound the ball to run out the clock.. well after lump get 80 yards real early.. we stop giving him the ball because kentucky went to a zone d? hmmmm the thing is atl.. i wouldn’t even be that perturbed but i have heard this line too many time from CMR after a loss.. “well we should have probably run the ball more” HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM..

and to be completely honest… lets just avoid talking to each other alt.. you get on my nerves just as much as i’m sure i get on yours.. so ignore my posts and i shall do the same..

By AltamahaDawg

November 7, 2006 09:20 AM | Link to this

No Wes, I dont think his off handed comments are floating around in thier heads and telling his players its ok to lose. You are correct, that is a huge stretch. I believe that the 2 second sound bite that you hear might pale in comparison to the hours and hours that he coaches those kids and what he tries to get them to believe. I believe the demeaner of this team right now is directly proportional to the season that are having and Osborne, Paterno, and Dooley combined could only do so much to make them put on a happy face right now. So NO , nO , NO , I do not belive he has said or done , or not done anythking to let them beleive it was OK to lose to KY.

BTW he said the exact same thing right after winning the sec east each of those times. Thats the “fans” needs to realize how difficult it is to win it all the time.

Its the truth. These guys are not 4 yr olds, they dont beleive in santa clause, and make up their own mind if they want to win or not, and certainly don’t do it from reading a AJC snippit about what the coach said to be PC becasue somebody was perstering him for a quote.

We have absolutely ZERO idea what the motivation factor is right now. Seems to not play hard or want to win? Seems? What exactly is the qualification there.

By Lowcountry Bulldawgs

November 7, 2006 09:31 AM | Link to this

HT,

Good points, but a couple here. One thing with turnovers it puts your defense in a bind because to many of the turnovers have come on our side of the 50. Short field= More points for opponent. This statistically makes the defense look worse. Second, by never committing to the running game coupled with the turnovers you never win the time of possesion battle. So, the defense is playing inside there own 50, and they are on the field more than the opponents defense. This does not bold well for any defense. Remember the saying that the best offense is a good defense? Well this year we could have used a good offense to help our defense a little.

I am not a blind homer. Am not a huge Martinez fan, but you gotta be fae in the assestment of him. Less turnovers, more T.O.P and then we would see a better defense. Richt is just as much at fault for a bad offensive play. Go Dawgs!

By AltamahaDawg

November 7, 2006 09:32 AM | Link to this

abe, i didnt read a word after you went “blay blay blay, defend the coach”. that is the common cope out for somebody who really has no answer to the issue of who really is in a better position to judge. You know damn well you dont have a leg to stand on, but just cant stand not at least b***. The same ol.. “oh i guess he is perfect.”

I am talking common sense here, nothing more, nothing less. You don’t know what the problems are and certainly are not qualified to suggest solutions. period. end of story.

If compaining and pointing out the obvious thing that havent worked makes you somehow feel better have at it. Frankly all I’ve heard from you is thet we shouldn’t have done something that didn’t work? well gee. ya think!

I am just not geared that way and I doubt in your real world you get away with that crap either.

By honest_abe

November 7, 2006 10:58 AM | Link to this

alt.. ok, fine.. you’re right i’m not qualified to suggest changes.. i’m also not paid millions of dollars to coach this team. as a fan, i thought it was my right to gripe about the things that aren’t working… or i could just be like you and figure well CMR knows all so i just sit back and be content.. when a program falls this far (losing to kentucky & vandy in one year).. there must be some accountability! that’s all i’m saying.

as for not bringing up any relevant points… i at least put some points on the table.. you on the other hand just wrote two paragraphs disparaging my comments and didn’t have anything to support your arguments. i keep bringing up the fact that all you do is defend CMR because that’s all you do! but you only defend him by saying i have no basis for critizing him… why not? you don’t have to be a scout or a coach to criticize…. let me simplify this for you…… since you seem just a tad bit slow… * the dawgs beat colorado, ole miss, miss state by a total of 9 points * THE DAWGS ARE LAST PLACE IN THE SEC EAST! with the talent on this team… who is to blame? since you seem like the one that qualified to talk on these matters… how about you edu ma cate me.. there has to be a disconnect somewhere… whether it be richts play calling, his assistant coaches or maybe there just isn’t as much prime cootch as there used to be..

By Wes

November 7, 2006 11:04 AM | Link to this

Alt, I agree with CMR, we’re not going to win every game…against the Floridas and the Auburns and the Tennessees of the SEC…BUT WE’RE LOSING TO VANDERBILT AND KENTUCKY!!!!

All I am saying is that loses like those (especially in the same season) are not acceptable, and the collective attitude of the coaches AND the players, does not reflect that…regardless of whether the public perception is a true representation of what goes on in practice and the field house.

By Jimmy

November 7, 2006 11:29 AM | Link to this

I was watching the UGA/KY replay on Saturday night and I noticed that the announces seemed to have no concern when Raley was hurt. Also, for some reason, the referees felt the need to announce the outcome of the play’s review to the crowd while Raley was being immobilized on the board. I mean, couldn’t they have walked over and told each coach and waited to make the announcement until he was off the field?

Play and simple, this is a down year for UGA!

By AltamahaDawg

November 7, 2006 11:45 AM | Link to this

wes no doubt, i dont thank a single person in the program has said it was acceptable. But again I ask, what exactly do you expect them to say in public.

By Wes

November 7, 2006 11:59 AM | Link to this

Honesly Alt, I don’t really know. I guess I don’t necessarily expect them to SAY anything. I know it’s hard to be anything but down when you’re losing, and I know this statement is based totally on opinion…but it just FEELS like there’s no fire this year. You can hear it in players voices and see it on their faces.

By AltamahaDawg

November 7, 2006 12:01 PM | Link to this

abe ,you have totally have missed my agenda, big shock, if you read that I think I am qualified to know what the real issues are or how to fix them. I dont. Thats was kind of the the whole point. Critisizing stuff I dont truly understand does not make me feel better or more in control, and I certainly dont think I can fool myself into beleiveing it proves to a bunch of yahoos in a sports blog (myself included)that I know something a trained and highly skilled professional wouldn’t.

FYI “we” don’t assign the accountability for the direction of the program to the staff, the folks that run it do. you watch. they do. you are free to complain, at the end of the day that exactly what it is complaining. great. Leave the actual doing something to the professionals.

and yea i saw your points, you think you know what a zone d is and I dont think you do, or how to counter it. You dont like the sprint draw, gee thats really new, (doesn’t it feel just a Tad silly to say something repeated so many times like its an original thought). its gone for positive as much as negative and set up other things, if youu dont like it, write Matthew Stafford a letter and tell him to stop calling INTO it. Maybe if we had an experience QB standing there that coudl read anything else but the safety valve, we would not have seen it so many times. We don’t. And i guess you think the coach has a bunch of bums and acts purely in his self interest and not in the best interest of UGa football , ok i get you. do I realy need to respond to that “point”. Not sure I can, what does anyone say to that.

Take your OWN advice and dont respond.

By AltamahaDawg

November 7, 2006 12:07 PM | Link to this

abe ,you have totally have missed my agenda, big shock, if you read that I think I am qualified to know what the real issues are or how to fix them. I dont. Thats was kind of the the whole point. Critisizing stuff I dont truly understand does not make me feel better or more in control, and I certainly dont think I can fool myself into beleiveing it proves to a bunch of yahoos in a sports blog (myself included)that I know something a trained and highly skilled professional wouldn’t.

FYI “we” don’t assign the accountability for the direction of the program to the staff, the folks that run it do. you watch. they do. you are free to complain, at the end of the day that exactly what it is complaining. great. Leave the actual doing something to the professionals.

and yea i saw your points, you think you know what a zone d is and I dont think you do, or how to counter it. You dont like the sprint draw, gee thats really new, (doesn’t it feel just a Tad silly to say something repeated so many times like its an original thought). its gone for positive as much as negative and set up other things, if youu dont like it, write Matthew Stafford a letter and tell him to stop calling INTO it. Maybe if we had an experience QB standing there that coudl read anything else but the safety valve, we would not have seen it so many times. We don’t. And i guess you think the coach has a bunch of bums and acts purely in his self interest and not in the best interest of UGa football , ok i get you. do I realy need to respond to that “point”. Not sure I can, what does anyone say to that.

Take your OWN advice and dont respond.

By I-DOG

November 7, 2006 12:24 PM | Link to this

I disagree with some of the posters that say Richt and his staff have not developed talent over the past six years.

I agree that the coaches did a poor job overall this year, very poor. I am dissapointed that Richt is saying that there will be no staff changes. Maybe it isn’t the right time of year for him to say there will be.

Who has developed/gotten better as a DAWG? The list is numerous, here are some examples:

Thomas Davis - not highly recruited but one of the top 3 Safeties in the country his last two years at UGA.

David Greene - Solid recruit, but not a top 5 player at his position… was a great college quarterback.

DJ Shockley - No question he developed and got better in the program.

Quentin Moses - 3 star recruit. Had amazing Junior season to the point where he was a pre-season first team All American.

Max Jean Gilles - Was a highly recruited player. Showed up in very poor shape, but got better each year under Calloway.

Brandon Cotou and Ely Kelso - Both improved tremendously

Paul Oliver - Was very highly recruited, but was “lost” his first year or two. Has improved quite a bit

Kade Weston - Highly recruited and still very young. Was not SEC ready as a Freshmen, but having a solid RF season.

David Pollack - A solid recruit at fullback, barely in the top 100 players in the South. He was terrible his first Spring practice switching to DE and became a pretty good DE (sarcastic)

Mr. Hobb nail Boot - Was a walk on fullback and went on to the pros after a stellar career at UGA

There are many more players that have gotten better in the UGA program. There have been busts like Marquise Elmore and other players that regressed like Fred Gibson and Mo Mass.

Much of the credit for the players who developed goes to the players themselves for working hard and doing the right things. Shouldn’t the coaching staff get a little credit?

UGA has developed plenty of players under Richt. Under Goff, in particular we did not develop players, Donnan did a little better, Richt is actually very good at it.

By honest_abe

November 7, 2006 12:25 PM | Link to this

bleh… i like getting in the last word…! all i do is complain and all you do is talk about how limited my knowledge is of the game of football.. yet you have said nothing to convince me that you know any more than i do.. when you ask for examples..i’m going to give you the most obvious ones… sorry if it’s redundant.. just because it has been brought up a thousand times doesn’t mean it’s not relevant.

i don’t have to understand the many different, lets say complicated types of zone schemes that certain teams might deploy to understand the basics of a zone d..(you play an area compared to a person) i didn’t think the concept was that difficult.. you make it out to be some kind of rocket science..LOL you might know more (and that’s great) but i know enough to realize the play calling has been putrid..

final thought… i don’t spend much time proofreading because all of crap i’m writing this pretty much rolls off the top of my head… but a word of advice.. either get some bi-focals, spell check or stop claiming UGA as place where you received your education.. you consistently misspell just about everything you write (if it was a typo it’d be one thing, but it’s not) which pretty much sums up your lack of intelligence.. or education.. which is it alt? or are those interchangeable?

By AltamahaDawg

November 7, 2006 12:52 PM | Link to this

Wes, I do not disagree, It doesn’t FEEL any fun for sure. I guess the only point I was trying to make is that at this point of the season, after what those guys have gone thru its understandable that they are down. I think its wise to sday as little as possible right now. Gawg know we have fans and media that love sound bites to jump all over. I dont think that them being down is WHY they have 4 losses. I was just trying to make a distiction about being down because of losing and not losing because they were down. I think everyone was plenty fired up and giddy about week 4. It’s that damn Buffalo I tell ya.

I’m not discounting the emotional and phychological part of it, but the results this year are a direct result of ligitamate weaknesses and breakdowns on the field of play. Blame whoever makes sence to you, certainly plenty of issues. I just see folks desperately trying to come up with these elaborate explainations and theories, when its really quite simple.

Got a chance to hear the CMR Press Conference this afternoon and he went into great details about what KY did to force the shift away from the running game. It wasnt some halfime mystery BTW. He talked about exactly who did what and why. If anyone cares, and it doesn’t totally kill your whole thoery that despite the reality on the field we “should ” have still run Lump, look it up. I heard a resonable explaination in detailed football terms. But I guess shoulda/coulda/ woulda trumps that. His last point was , that we are suppose to be able to pitch and catch the ball to overcome those adjustment and it would have been back for us later in the game. Bottom line, they stacked the box and locked down our outside rec, and we couldnt respond.

By AltamahaDawg

November 7, 2006 01:00 PM | Link to this

educated at the University of Georgia with dual degrees and could give a rats behind to get spelling or grammer right in a silly sports blog. Is that OK? pointing that out is as fascinating as “oh I guess the coach is perfect”

Hear the explaination today at the press conference on the KY game, you will realize how little you do know. BTW if is was simple as a zone, we all could do it.

And for the love of all that is right, I have never cared to know more than you about coaching football , geezzz get the point. Its not about which one of US knows more.

By Wes

November 7, 2006 01:49 PM | Link to this

Alt, I do agree that it was something about that Colorado game…did they call our mothers dirty names or something?

This is the last thing I’ll say and then I’ll go away. I guess my whole point is last year, CMR didn’t HAVE to spend press conferences explaining why he abandoned the run in second halfs because we were winning. Whether we played bad or not, it seemed like we found ways to win, even when they weren’t impressive wins. Granted, I know a lot of that had to do with the athletic ability of Shock, but I still choose to believe that last years team, for whatever reason, had a greater WILL to win games to go along with the talent.

By AltamahaDawg

November 7, 2006 02:17 PM | Link to this

Big heaping piles of buffalo turd, stunk up the field for weeks to come.

I said last year, that team , that championship will do down as one of CMR BEST coaching jobs. thats really wasnt the best team. this year will not be recognized as a very good coaching job, but I tell ya, big picture, prabably coldnt have been much worse. still might be, but I dont see them tossing in the towel. That My Friends, is what got Donnan fired, not his record, but his teams quit at times, and had a lot more internal issues that was public,(or so I am told). ive even heard the story of how that last tech game tech player basically said F-it. You never know how true that is. this team hasnt looked vry good and certainly didnt stop anyone, but I still cant say they looked like they quit.

By AltamahaDawg

November 7, 2006 02:22 PM | Link to this

But Wes lets face it, we easily could have lost last year’s homecoming and it basically came down to a FG. Same thing this year we missed it. Tn wasn’t good, Fl about the same results really. and KY wasnt near this good and we werent near this bad, so Im not sure how much pure will had to do with it. This year is basically about 2 injuries, 3 FG, and a QB from last year. But you are right, it FEELS like 10 yrs ago.

By AltamahaDawg

November 7, 2006 02:23 PM | Link to this

opps I meant UGA players folded against tech in Donnans last year.

By Buck Cochran in the NW

November 7, 2006 02:23 PM | Link to this

I-DOG, he can’t start talking about changing coaches when we have 2 games left to play and any writer that ask’s the question is just setting him up.

By Buck Cochran in the NW

November 7, 2006 02:36 PM | Link to this

AltamahaDawg, would you explain what you’re trying to do this morning? yOU DISAGREE WITH ANYONE BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT’S BEST THEN TURN AROUND AND SHOOT A DART. YOU KNOW WHY DONNAN WAS FIRED? TO MAKE THAT STATEMENT, SHARE THE PROOF WITH THE REST OF THE NATION. i’D LIKE TO KNOW THE TRUE STORY, NOT WHAT SOMEBODY BEEN TOLD. yOUR COMMENT ABOUT STAFFORD ONLY KNEW HOW TO AUDIBLE INTO THE SCREEN PASS. YOU WERE FIRM ON THAT STATEMENT, SO WOULD YOU MINE TELLING ME WHICH COACH TOLD YOU THAT OR IS IT JUST AN OBSERVATION ON YOUR PART? DON’T KNOW WHAT YOUR GOAL IS BUT YOU ACT AS IF NO ONE KNOWS ANYTHING AND YOU’RE WRONG. ABE,I-DOG AND WES HAVE ALL MADE A GOOD POINT OR TWO. i DON’T UNDERSTAND

By AltamahaDawg

November 7, 2006 03:05 PM | Link to this

well lets see, its an OPINION there Buck widely accepted by many many UGa alum, but whatever you think got Donnan fire is really quite okay with me. I met the man several times and I can tell you, he was cold, never set well with the base and his team underachieved. Im saying in contrast to CMR. Got some issue with that?

ive agree with I-dog 95% of the time and told him that countless times, basically Wes and I are rambing about nuthing and i dont see him taking that as anything but what its intended, an honest discussion, and abe has made no point that I can see , but that he is p** off. CMR needs to stop puting his own self interest in front of the program?

I never said one word about stafford and a screen pass. No idea what you are talking about but I can understand ANYTHING short of golden cookies for him, would get you riled.

(I said the sprint draw is safety valve, and sometimes its not flashy , but the best option for a young QB who doesnt see anything better at the time)

By I-DOG

November 7, 2006 03:07 PM | Link to this

Buck Cochran in the NW:

Yeah, your probably right that the timing isn’t right to talk about coaching changes. I’m not for wholesale changes, but believe we need to get rid of the bottom two assistants and develop a plan to improve the other areas that have been such a problem this year.

I’m just worried that there won’t be ANY changes after the season and that would be frustrating

By AltamahaDawg

November 7, 2006 03:40 PM | Link to this

Did anyone see that brief about CMR parading Stafford’s beat up past the Oline. “see what they did to him”. That’s kinda interesting.

By honest_abe

November 7, 2006 03:43 PM | Link to this

ok…i’m not trying to get everyone to argue in here.. alt has some beef with me which is fine because it’s not like i’m on here to try and gain his approval… this season has been disappointing for all of us and the frustration was bound to follow..

i like how some like to regard the sprint draw as some kind of safety valve for inexerienced QB’s. from what i recall i remember the ineffectiveness of that play two years ago when greene was a senior. maybe, and i just might be going out on a limb here, but i always figured it to be a staple of richts offense.. considering he loves throwing the ball out of the shotgun.. it would only be natural to run the ball out of that formation as well.

as for this comment that someone keep referring to “CMR needs to stop puting his own self interest in front of the program?” i thought i explained it earlier, but all i was trying to say was that there has to be accountability somewhere….. bottom line. when you lose to kentucky and vandy in one year.. something has to give.. dont’ give me that crap about having a down year. we have too many good athletes to lose to programs like that and almost lose to miss state, ole miss and colorado. so something has to give. if it’s the coaches then there should be some changes.. i was saying i see CMR being too loyal to his coaches where he won’t fire & replace them. i see that as putting his own self interest before the program. did i explain that clearly?

By AltamahaDawg

November 7, 2006 04:37 PM | Link to this

I’m guessing you really couldn’t quote any kind of relavant facts to back up that plays effectiveness 2 yrs ago. But that really not my concern. I dont particularly like the play either, we run it for a reason though, and since I dont have to figure it out, I prabably never will. I’ve made a point to count how many times we run it this year and its very infrequent, and it gets more yards than it gets stuffed, we scored from about 12 yrds out against Fl 2 weeks ago. I think we ran it once, twice against KY. correct me on that. We run from the shotgun on very limited situation that is totally a QB decition at the line. thats a fact. We have used it for years as well as many many other teams. I’ve heard some say that we simply dont have the line to run it, maybe so. Since I dont know what set we do have the line for, I’ll defer that to those who know. I just think the play gets way way too much publicity when for a Placekicker this year or a sticky glove, we would have never heard about it.

Your point about Coaches loyalty is very true. I do disagree that he does that for selfish purposes. I think the vast majority of coaches in the country try to evaluate their staff on rational criteria that was within thier control and so WILL he. I beleive he thinks consistancy in his staff is an issue. Some of these other coaches mentioned countless times as if every sitiaon is exactly the same, are admittedly not x’s and Os guy and very used to flipping assistants. He also has to factor in who he feels comfortable with nas how he feel comfortable running them. I think he has the program at heart, and if he though one wasnt right, he would replace him. Now you may disagree with his choices for the jobs, but thats just your opinion, not a fact. No problem, but he might disagree. Disagreeing with you hardly qualifies as a fact he is NOT doing the right thing. I totally disagree that he would keep somebody out of freindship. You are questioning his motives, like that is a fact. That is wrong.

It’s like ealier when I ask you to clarify how you thought he was stubornly making the same mistake. #1 that would require him beleiveing those decision are wrong and doing it anyway. Just like the KY game, he beleives he made an informed, factual decition to throw it more. So its hardly stubborn to refuse to chance somethign you beleive was correct. NOW if you want to argue his staff and thier logic, and the spotters in the booth, and the years of experience in such matters as being incorrect football decisions, that an entirely different issue. I think I am clear on MY and your qualificaions to do that. I do get defensive when you insult the mans motives though. I just dont think that fair or warranted. There is a huge difference for accountabilty and a pound of flesh. What I think a more rationa approach is the we all INSIST on improvement, whatever that entails, what i hear is fire somebody. replacing somebody might be one answer, somethihg else might another, you dont know, I dont know, he has the the best vantage point.

sorry for the tone ealier. BTW, I don’t recall questioning your education or intelligence for never being introduced to a capitol letter.

By TrueDawg

November 7, 2006 05:28 PM | Link to this

I have said it from the begining of the season “Joe Cox QB.” Why does CMR ignore the talent that he has. Joe Cox is a great young QB. I am not taking away from Stafford, but you cant throw 3 int’s against the worst defense in the nation and expect to play for a National Championship team. Cox on the other hand only threw 5 ints his whole senior year, he also threw for over 4500 yards!!! One more question “who won the Colorodo game?” I have watched both QBs under pressure and Joe is the go to man. Its simple addition: Joe Cox+Kicker=W As for as Richt coaching, I think we need a new OC, one with balls. Our team needs to keep motivation throughout the game. When the D plays good the O screws up, this kills the game winning momentum that the team builds together.
Mark has alot on him right now, with his wife sick. Anyone knows that if you have someone very close to you sick, work becomes secondary. Sorry for misspelled words, late for meeting.

Goooo Dawgs….Sic em!!!!!

By jim

November 7, 2006 06:02 PM | Link to this

I think we all can agree that if Stafford gets protection he shows production. The O-line is hurting so out backfield is paying bigtime. We need to utilize the resources we have. If Stafford needs more protection stack the backfield with Williams and Southerland to protect him. If Millnar can’t catch the ball put him on the O-line. Put Joe T back on the kick team or use him as a tight end. Bottem line do whatever it takes to win the next two games.

By mark

November 8, 2006 11:23 AM | Link to this

You guys act surprised at CMR and his staffs decisions at this point in the season. Nothing surprises me anymore. Lumpkin only getting 3 or so more carries after running over and around people in the 1st quarter?…..He had like 12 carries for 80 yards with 7 minutes left in the 3rd against UT and he ran the ball 1 MORE TIME THE REST OF THE GAME!!!!!!!!! How does that happen?!??!?! No ladies and gentleman I’m not surprised at anything this coaching staff does at this point. They’ve been doing it all year and gotten consistent results. Negative results but hey, at least they’re consistent.

By AltamahaDawg

November 8, 2006 03:16 PM | Link to this

mark, the fact is that UGA had only 5 series in the second half of the KY game, lets look at those:

Please look at that and tell me where the horrible coaching was that Lumpkin didnt get another 80 yrds against a defence selling out against the run, that second half.

I am interested, since its so obvious and I cant see it.