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By Hairy Dawg

February 20, 2006 05:12 PM | Link to this

Well, the Dawgs have to win two of their last four games to have any real shot at the NIT. It would be nice if they could win three of them, but that’s probably asking an awful lot.

By Bryan G.

February 20, 2006 05:56 PM | Link to this

They really needed to beat Vandy. Hopefully they can beat USC, MSU and Arkansas. No way they beat Florida on the road. We can’t afford any more suspensions, though, obviously.

By GW

February 20, 2006 07:44 PM | Link to this

In the past when UGA has made the NIT with a plus one over .500 record they just went through the motions…one and done. If they make it we can at least see if they pack it in or give it an effort. The team just isn’t very good, with or without a full lineup.

By Billy Donovan

February 20, 2006 07:49 PM | Link to this

Go Gators. Enjoy watching the Big Dance Dawg fans

By ConyersDawg

February 21, 2006 12:22 AM | Link to this

Go Billy Donovan, another choke in the big dance and showing how you can not coach.

By BuLLdawg

February 21, 2006 12:40 AM | Link to this

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Georgia Tech can still get into the NIT the AJC reports yesterday and today Georgia cannot make the NIT ?

Why the bias Chip Towers by your newspaper sir ?

Maryland of the hyped ACC in your paper is not a very good basketball team.

Georgia Tech certainly is not.

“So, before you know it Georgia has lost 3 of 4.” you tell us today.

When do you write that Saint Paul Hewitt has Lost 10 of his last 11 ?

Georgia is Number 98 in the RPI.

Georgia Tech is Number 141 in the RPI.

When does your newspaper start reporting the complete list of the RPI (at least as far down as Number 141) ?

Georgia Tech is 10-14. Is this a good place to report that fact ?

Georgia is 14-11 in a conference with a lot more than just Duke in the ACC.

Georgia has legitimately 5 games remaining before their Post Season NIT bid. Who cares if they lose in their first game, as it will be an NIT bid that Georgia Tech certainly will not get.

Georgia, if it lost the 4 games before the SEC Tournament Loss they face, would be 14-15 and then with the SEC Tourney Loss would end 14-16.

However, in the game Thursday Georgia faces 13-11 South Carolina, who also is desperate for a win. And, although The Dawgs beat them last time, this time The Dawgs face them missing half of our team.

Mississippi State also has a Winning Record at 13-12, and they too are desperate for a win.

There is some outside hope that Georgia could beat Mississippi State.

If we do, and lose to South Carolina who has the former ACC Coach of Wake Forest, and do beat Mississippi State, Georgia then would stand at 15-12.

And, in the tough SEC with a lot more than just Duke in the ACC, which is all that conference has.

With their duds once they get the NBA from Duke, I might add.

Duds, who cannot play Defense, that is.

So, if Georgia is 15-12 then facing the last 2 regular season games of a very good Arkansas squad and Billy Ball down there for Florida, both of whom are absolutely assured of being in The NCAA Tournament and seeded well too, they would be with a Loss in the SEC Tournament, 15-15.

Since when does a 15-15 Team in the SEC not make the NIT Tournament ?

You see Chip Towers ?

The posters above who play your game, don’t spell it out either, as Georgia only has to win 1 game to be in the NIT.

There was a time recently when if we had continued and not lost 4 of our best players for Vandy last weekend and had beaten them that Georgia would have made the NCAA Tournament.

Something that was out of the question for Georgia Tech after they lost to Georgia.

In fact, Georgia Tech Lost to Georgia by 15 points.

Georgia also beat Clemson by 13 points. Not that Clemson was ever going to be in the NCAA Tourney this season either, mind you.

Georgia beat Western Kentucky on the road too, and they are Number 20 in the RPI today at 19-5.

Earlier this month, Georgia also beat Alabama by 9 points and at that point seemed assured of an NCAA bid with an 8 seed.

But, the loss later in that week to Vandy by 1 point on the road, ended all speculation about Georgia in the NCAA.

I say these things, because following this season in the AJC has been a story of Georgia really isn’t any good and Saint Paul Hewitt, with a player who is Major for him kicked out of Tech for flunking out of Tech, is going to get an NIT bid the AJC reported yesterday having Lost 10 of his last 11 games.

Oh, the Tech player who flunked out of Tech, was appealed to the Georgia Institute of Technology and allowed to play.

Were he a general student at Tech, he would not be on the campus today.

But, he is not.

So, they have a key player.

Georgia’s 2 injuries for the remainder of the season hurt by direct comparison.

Still, even with the loss of 2 key contributors for the remaining 4 games of the regular season, Georgia only needs to beat Mississippi State.

Don’t, and we are out of the NIT.

A place Tech has been since they lost by 16 points to Georgia.

Does that answer your question Mr. Chip Towers sir ?

If not, then maybe we should compare Georgia with Georgia Tech since your paper says Tech is in the NIT and Georgia out of the NIT ?

Georgia Tech lost by 22 points to Number 156 Illinois-Chicago.

Georgia Tech Lost by 15 points to Number 103 Wake Forest, a school of about 1,700 students - about the size of a high school. And, this is a team with no hope of having a Winning Record, and has not had such hope since they played their first game.

And, as bad as Wake Forest is, Georgia Tech is a lot worse.

Of course, Number 120 RPI Virginia Tech, who has no hope of a Winning Record either and no hope of an NIT bid is even worse than Wake Forest, but beat Georgia Tech too.

But, Georgia Tech can still be in the NIT and Georgia cannot ?

This brings us to Clemson, since Georgia Tech only has games against Wake Forest, Duke and Clemson remaining in the regular season, sitting at 10-14 as Tech is.

Georgia beat Clemson.

Of course, Clemson neither is in the RPI Top 65.

Nice conference the Down ACC has this season, with one good team.

But, Georgia Tech beating Clemson ?

Georgia Tech did not beat Clemson already this year, Losing as Tech did to them.

And, surely Georgia Tech who could not beat Clemson at Georgia Tech is not going to beat Clemson at Clemson. This while Georgia beat Clemson, I remind you Mr. Chip Towers, sir.

So, there we have it.

Georgia Tech 10-14 who has already lost to all 3 of the teams they have remaining this regular season (And, having Lost to Georgia who beat not only Georgia Tech but also Clemson) : Duke, Clemson and Wake Forest, is looking like a team that will be after the regular season, 10-17.

With a long slate of bad Losses.

Do you mind telling me again how Georgia Tech can still be in the NIT and Georgia not ?

When all Georgia has to do is to beat Mississippi State, as Tech faces 3 more teams who have already beaten Georgia Tech who has Lost 10 of their Last 11 games.

Explain that obvious bias of the AJC please Mr. Chip Towers, sir ?

By the way, the ACC reports that it has 4 teams in the NCAA Tournament to 6 for the SEC.

http://www.collegeRPI.com

Click Conference Standings, Mr. Chip Towers, sir.

Your bias of your newspaper is so obvious.

By geechee

February 21, 2006 01:44 AM | Link to this

Easy BuLLdawg, Chip is the Dogs’ beat writer. He has nothing to do with Tech reporting and you can’t blame the messenger for the sudden collaspe. He never stated that UGA couldn’t make the NIT. He merely asked what we thought about the chances.

I unfortunately feel that last week we had an excellent chance at the NIT and that this week it seems to have evaporated. The program is still suffering from the disease we caught from Harrick and the healing process may take longer than we imagined.

By BuLLdawg

February 21, 2006 05:24 AM | Link to this

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Sorry, but Chip Towers does not say that Georgia only needs to beat Mississippi State - and, then if it Lost EVERY OTHER GAME INCLUDING THE 1ST GAME AND OUT OF THE SEC TOURNAMENT - would be 15-15.

In fact, he acts as if it is a foregone conclusion that Georgia will lose every other game.

How can a beat writer for Georgia on the AJC paper, after all weekend long having the AJC say in headlines that Georgia Tech can still be in the NIT Tournament, not address that ?

Besides saying that Georgia got “WHACKED” by Vandy and not mentioning the 16-point WHACKING The Dawgs put on Georgia Tech itself, Chip Towers most assuredly does state :

“So before you know it, Georgia has lost three in a row is in danger not only of missing out on any postseason possibilities but even of finishing with a winning record.”

“Not finishing with a winning record” would require The Dawgs to Lose every single solitary game from now until next season, as we are 14-10 now and require only 1 win to not have a losing record.

Again, if mentioning having lost 3 of the last 4 in the Atlanta Journal Constitution who constantly feels that it must word these stories as clearly Chip Towers just has done contrary to your defense of him personally - despite his own words directly contradicting your point - then, why not fire back to the quarter of a million University of Georgia alumni in his readership (compared to only 29,000 Tech alumni in his readership) who had to endure this crap that Tech is going to the NIT but that Georgia has no hope, that Georgia Tech has LOST 10 of their last 11 ?

Not relevant point either for a Georgia Bulldog beat writer ?

Contraire, contraire.

I did not expect The Bulldogs to do as well as they have this season.

I think Dennis Felton has done a great job so quickly.

I think we have needed a new basketball gym instead of the cow palace we do have for 50 years.

The gym doesn’t have many seats.

And, it is not up to standards, that by adding a second building to it for a locker room and practice court, would fix either.

And, I have no idea why you think it has “evaporated” you say, any chance of Georgia making a NIT Tournament when if we simply beat Mississippi State, that we can lose every other game including the 1st game and done in the SEC Tournament, and still be 15-15 Selection Sunday.

Anyway, we are Number 98 in the RPI. Never mind we beat Georgia Tech by 16 points. And, Clemson. And, Western Kentucky. And, South Carolina. And, Alabama. And, Vanderbilt.

The NCAA Tournament is a 65-team field and the next 40 would be 105 RPI, and 98 is most assuredly in the NIT even if we lose every other game and end up then not 15-15, which again requires only 1 win - like Mississippi State.

If the Bulldogs have a disease this year in men’s basketball, what is Georgia Tech’s excuse at Number 141 RPI and a 10-17 record ?

You cannot report on one without reporting on the other.

Not and present Tech as having a chance to make the NIT and then have your own damn beat writer (and you) say that Georgia will LOSE every stinking game, even in which case again they would still make the NIT

By geechee

February 21, 2006 06:04 AM | Link to this

BuLLdawg, the disease we had was Harrick and Felton has been nursing the school back to a state of health. I’ve got nothing to say about Tech. Three generations of my family are Tech grads includng my father and brother but I really couldn’t care less about their athletics program and rarely even read the articles about them in the AJC. If Schultz or Bradley write a column about them I read it but that’s about it. I believe if UGA does finish the year at .500 that is an incredible improvement and if that does get us into the NIT wonderful but, you would probably know more about that than me. I’m just a typical GA cracker who will support UGA in all sports but Dogs’ football I follow religiously.

By Ryan

February 21, 2006 06:59 AM | Link to this

He likes football since their basketball team is terrible. UGA fans are funny, they only support their good teams. That’s why they don’t have much to root for. UF baseball #1, basketball #9, football #12.

By The Wreck

February 21, 2006 09:10 AM | Link to this

Hey BuLLdawg- Get a grip, man. This article has nothing to do with Tech. For the record, the Mike Knobler article “Tech’s NIT Hopes Raised” was merely talking about the announcement that sub-.500 teams are now eligible for the NIT. The article included the phrase “a strong finish could give Tech a chance.” What’s incorrect about that. It didn’t say, “a great chance.” Just a chance. So how’s that so different from this article which says, “Can the Bulldogs get their ship righted in time for Thursday night’s televised game against South Carolina? Is the NIT still a possibility?”

I suspect you’re more mad about the lack of criticism of Paul Hewitt in what is clearly a lackluster season. Here are your answers: the 2003-2004 season and top-notch recruiting. Our team lost 90% of its scoring from last season and everyone knew it would be a down year. Hewitt has two McDonalds All-Americans coming in next year. So I am happy to sit back and suffer through a losing season because I know that our team of freshmen and sophomores are getting valuable playing time in a tough league while we clear the way for the young guns to take over.

As for the ACC/SEC comparison, forget about it. Even in the down year for the ACC the SEC is even MORE down. Florida is a paper team only, it’s only a matter of time before they choke. Maybe the SEC should try actually doing something in the tournament before they can talk about being a premier conference. The ACC’s won 3 of the past five championships and appeared in another of those five. You can talk all you want about the Dawgs RPI being better, but you still haven’t beaten a ranked team. We’ve beat two. And before you give me the tired old, “Yeah, but we beat you” line, let me say that we aren’t any good either, so it doesn’t matter.

I have all the confidence in the world that we’ll be back. As for the Mutts, I’m not sure you were ever there.

By rsj

February 21, 2006 09:21 AM | Link to this

BuLLdawg - UGA is currently 14-11, not 14-10.

By Ron Roberts

February 21, 2006 12:19 PM | Link to this

All I know is….

Whatever Mercer did to get on Coach’s crap-list, he needs to figure out a way to stay off it.

Those two getting suspended cost Georgia a home win, frankly. We beat Vandy on their floor, so we CERTAINLY should’ve beaten them on ours.

Til that game, I’d been proud of this squad and their accomplishments. That game might’ve been enough, though, to derail the ‘Dawgs postseason hopes. By the way, all that yakkin’ about lack of support by Felton, etc., might just come back to bite the Dawgs. Why?

The N.I.T. likes teams with winning records AND strong fan support. It’s how they decide who gets home games in their opening rounds, and I doubt now even if Georgia DID get an NIT bid, that they’d toss us a home game now.

By DecaturTechfan

February 21, 2006 03:33 PM | Link to this

BuLLdawg……………..pluueease. Man, you have been sniffing too much cowshit down on the farm. U are already down 4, yes four players this year and who do you have coming in next year? We could go 10-19 and still have more to look forward to than you guys.and . Besides, I think YAWLs administration likes gymnastics better than basketball. Just ask your basketball coach.

By Tech Fan of the Game

February 21, 2006 05:17 PM | Link to this

“Georgia is 14-11 in a conference with a lot more than just Duke in the ACC…And, in the tough SEC with a lot more than just Duke in the ACC, which is all that conference has.”

BuLLdawg, when I glanced over your comments and saw a great deal of numbers, for a brief moment I thought I was about to read some intellegent commentary. How silly of me.

Yes, I am a Tech grad and a Tech fan, and while I too sometimes wonder why I bother to read through the UGA Blog, I’m here because I’m a fan of NCAA basketball. But in light of another blog full of irrelavant and occasionally thoughtless comments, I thought I’d offer a few of my own.

To save everyone the time, I realize Tech once again lost to Georgia. It was another painful experience for this Tech fan, and just as one might have observed the obvious contrary last season, there was no doubt about who was the better team that night. With that said, how would the Dawgs feel about playing the same bunch of young Yellow Jackets now?

I doubt that I’d be alone to question the sincerity and sanity of anyone offering to put their potentially post-season-eligible team against this hungry and very capable Tech team. In fact, I doubt that any coach, no matter how formidable his team has proven to be, would feel very comfortable taking on Georgia Tech right now.

While the Jackets have regularly shown their youth through gut-wrenching moments of self-destruction, there have been moments of brilliance that not only put any doubts about the future of this Tech team at bay, but left game announcers speechless and opposing fans awestruck.

So why might the 10-14 Ramblin’ Wreck be a more likely NIT candidate than the 14-11 Dawgs? For starters, how about two top 25 victories? Despite the eight consecutive losses, this Tech team is 11 points from being a .500 team and fifth in the forever strong ACC. Consider the robbery in Chapel Hill (Go ahead and laugh but Roy Williams isn’t,and more than the Tech faithfull have cried “foul” about that one)and Tech is number three in the ACC behind NC State(one of Tech’s top 25 wins) and, “all that conference has,” Duke.

Duke comes to town tomorrow night, and I’d be willing to bet that Coach K is not looking past the 10-14 Yellow Jackets.