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By Bradley G

February 16, 2006 04:05 PM | Link to this

Stunning? Absolutely. I call it impressive, not “a little bit sick and frightening”. It certainly was a long trip, but what is strange about trying to land a prize recruit…especially at Ole Miss? Bryan G…help me…I’m trying not to criticize Carter but I’m not having any success!

By godawg

February 16, 2006 04:07 PM | Link to this

When did the ajc start an Ole Miss blog?

By Bryan G.

February 16, 2006 04:24 PM | Link to this

I think I’d help, but godawg beat me to it. I believe the AJC had a “college recruting” blog. This would have been perfect under that.

By BirdDawg

February 16, 2006 04:26 PM | Link to this

I would have been recruited to Ole Miss if I hadn’t hurt my knees.

By socaldawg

February 16, 2006 04:34 PM | Link to this

I’d fly across the country twice in the same day to land a new beat writer for UGA.

By godawg

February 16, 2006 04:58 PM | Link to this

“One of the more interesting tales from the recruiting circles was how Ole Miss ended up with Brent Schaeffer.”

At Tennesse Schaeffer was the wild-card in the mix with Ainge and Clausen before deciding to transfer. He was suspended last spring after being arrested and charged with assaulting a student and then starting missing classes. He was an exciting runner with 66 yards and a touchdown in his time alternating with Erik Ainge before getting knocked out for the year with a collarbone injury. He struggled a bit throwing the ball, but he wasn’t all that bad for a true freshman.

He transferred to College of the Sequoias where

By godawg

February 16, 2006 05:06 PM | Link to this

He transferred to College of the Sequoias where he threw for 42 touchdowns and rushed for eight or nine more. He’s been named Valley Conference Player of the Year, Regional Player of the Year and the California Player of the Year.

He pledged to Clemson over the summer and they rejected him. He then garnered offers from NC State, Ole Miss, Wisconsin, Kansas State, and Virginia Tech finally settling on Ole Miss.

This long saga is more “interesting” than three guys flying in a plane across the country.

What IS “stunning, and a little bit sick and frightening,” is that this appears on the UGA blog.

P.S. Sorry about the split post, accidental click.

By BirdDawg

February 16, 2006 05:09 PM | Link to this

Okay Matthew, why do you post as me? But whatever, act the fool if you must. People will realize that you are posting as me because of the ridiculous things you write. So have fun, if this is your idea of it.

What I don’t understand is Carter Strickland’s general distaste for college football, or maybe just the SEC in general. Notice his language: “… a little bit sick and frightening…” What is so sick and frightening about making a cross country trip twice in a day? I know some of my friends have made business trips just like that. Yes, it may be unusual for them and for the Ole’ Miss coach, but why does Carter Strickland need to write things with that kind of language.

I think, Carter, that you are in the wrong line of business, or just in the wrong area of the country. Please, move up north where they treat college football the way we treat lacrosse. Go write about Syracuse or some other yankee school. You obviously are in way over your head trying to cover SEC football, and you let it be known with everything you write that you hold the SEC, it’s schools, players, and fans in the utmost contempt.

So leave and never bother us again if you hate us so. We won’t weep as the proverbial door hits ya where the Good Lord split ya.

By ConyersDawg

February 16, 2006 06:03 PM | Link to this

If we quit responding to blogs like this the ajc will do something. That’s why Tech got Winklejohn.

By ConyersDawg

February 16, 2006 06:24 PM | Link to this

What’s amazing about this blog to me is Carter is talking about an interesting recruiting story when the most interesting story in recruiting right now is Clifton Geathers, one of the best OL still out there is visiting UGA this weekend where I believe he will tell the bulldawg staff he wants to be a Dawg!

By Uncle Rico

February 16, 2006 06:29 PM | Link to this

If coach had put me in, we coulda taken state-I know it.

By GW

February 16, 2006 07:21 PM | Link to this

Hiss on Ole Miss!

By SugarDawg

February 16, 2006 07:43 PM | Link to this

The stunning part is, Carter isn’t any better now, than when he started. The sickening part is, he still has a job. The frightening part is, I still read his crap.

By WMFDawg

February 16, 2006 08:05 PM | Link to this

…….and Al Bundy scored 4 TD’s in one game for Polk High School.

By geechee

February 16, 2006 08:07 PM | Link to this

Conyers,where’d you get that scoop on Geathers?

I don’t see what is so stunning, sick,or frightening about the flying the distance. There is still 24 hours in a day. They didn’t have to flap their wings to get there. They did it by private plane which means they did not have to hassle with airports either.

It seems the AJC would have learned by now the responses they get to non UGA posts on the UGA blog will not be pretty ones. The big question is why do they do it? As the “the” state university, why isn’t UGA entitled to its own blog especially when it is named “UGABlog”?

By War Eagle

February 16, 2006 08:32 PM | Link to this

Brent Schaeffer is not that good, he could not play in front of the two worst QB in the SEC, Clausen and Ainge. He will be better than anything Ole Miss has had at that position past several seasons. He called Auburn and was ask to visit, but never came. He was not offered a scholarship.

By geechee

February 16, 2006 09:15 PM | Link to this

Eagle (or anyone else), I was emailed the address of a site you might like. It is called SEC TALK and can be found here. It has many forums for discussing all things SEC including different forums for each school. Registration is easy and you can discusss anything and start your own topics if you don’t find one you want.You can post on your school forum or interact with fans from all schools.

By phatfilphulmer

February 16, 2006 09:24 PM | Link to this

he must not be any good if he didn’t take a visit to aubarn right war eagle?

By SugarDawg

February 16, 2006 09:26 PM | Link to this

geechee, I agree. I don’t know where Conyers got that scoop either, but it was the most interesting thing posted on this blog. I’m alot more interested in what’s happening at UGA , not Miss. I’m just glad the bloggers in here can usually turn an otherwise boring and unrelated to UGA Carter piece, into an interesting conversation.

By Bulldawg Jay

February 16, 2006 10:20 PM | Link to this

This is coming from Mississippi. Word is that the NCAA won’t let you see a recruit and his parents on separate day, they must be seen on the same day. This is tough to do with the recruit in Cali and the mom in Florida. Big Tobacco trial lawyer and Ole Miss alum Dicky Scruggs let Orgeron use his private jet. Scruggs and another big trial lawyer are rumored to have taken the Ole Miss football team on as their personal hobby.

By Doyle Hargraves

February 17, 2006 04:06 AM | Link to this

Somebody bring me up to speed on Darius Dewberry. Is he going to be able to play football and stay in school at UGA?

By Bradley G

February 17, 2006 08:58 AM | Link to this

Carter Strickland needs to be let go for his lack of understanding of UGA sports. Bryant Gumbel needs to be fired for his racist beliefs.

By gdawginkalamazoo

February 17, 2006 09:04 AM | Link to this

Guess we don’t have to worry about Ole Miss for a couple of years.

By IlliniDawg

February 17, 2006 09:06 AM | Link to this

I think that Carter’s blog could have been spun more towards UGA if he had discussed what impact this signing could have on the UGA/Ole Miss game this September. Maybe some tidbits about how the additional speed we got on Feb 1 will help contain a mobile quarterback like BS.

By gdawginkalamazoo

February 17, 2006 09:16 AM | Link to this

Illini, you are right. The thing is that the only impact will be Schaeffer hitting the turf. Okay maybe Schaeffer impacting an Ole Miss student after the game too.

This whole topic about Carter not knowing about flying machines cracks me up though.

By War Eagle

February 17, 2006 09:48 AM | Link to this

Phatfilphulmer, I understand your frustration Phat since your football program is on the downfall. Anytime I see Aubarn print its uaually a whiney Bammer fan in turmoil from getting whipped down by Auburn the last four years, the same whipped down we gave Phat Phil the last four years… so good luck next year and maybe the Music City Bowl will be waiting for your appearance against Boise State.

By War Eagle

February 17, 2006 10:08 AM | Link to this

Geechee, nice web-site, thanks. Question, Is Geathers a non-qulafier? I heard he was having some academic problems, but did`nt know if was that problem..good luck with him, he is a good player.

By AltamahaDawg

February 17, 2006 10:58 AM | Link to this

I hope the story today about Garner’s compensation will shut up all the critisism lately from folks who thought he was milking us. Even if he were (clearly not) that would have been fair too.

By godawg

February 17, 2006 11:09 AM | Link to this

From the Athens banner herald; Letters to the Editor

“John McGaughey: Drunken UGA fans are cost of getting TV money | | Story updated at 10:23 AM on Friday, February 17, 2006 I have a solution to the drunken football fan behavior at University of Georgia home football games - one that former athletics director Vince Dooley came up with a long time ago. The university should quit having night games just for TV revenue, and should go back to having the games at noon so fans don’t have all day to drink.

Of course, this isn’t going to be popular with the bean counters. After all, it’s all about the money, isn’t it?

John McGaughey”

By geechee

February 17, 2006 12:15 PM | Link to this

“Somebody bring me up to speed on Darius Dewberry. Is he going to be able to play football and stay in school at UGA?”

The Dew signed with UGA in the 2005 recruiting class but did not have all the grades needed for admission. He attended Hargrave this past year where he got his grades up and starred at LB.

He should be good enough to challenge for a starting position and should see considerable playing time as a frosh.

Whether he is able to stay in school is totally up to him but I would think that anyone who bothers to go to Hargrave when he could have easily signed with another school that would have admitted him shows his desire to attend UGA and would work to stay there.

By Jim Harrick

February 17, 2006 12:44 PM | Link to this

How many points is a 3 point shot worth ?

By Tony Cole

February 17, 2006 01:21 PM | Link to this

???????????

By ConyersDawg

February 17, 2006 01:26 PM | Link to this

Hey guys, sorry it took me so longto get back.

I saw the stuff on Geathers yesterday on ugasports.com. I didn’t see it there today. I do remember someone on the blogs about 2 weeks ago saying that Geathers was going to become a dawg but their was some academic isuues. Either way it would be great to get his type talent and keep all the linemen we signed competitive and hungry for starting positions.

Carter, give us the scoop on Antonio Sims getting dismissed from the team! Please!

Losing Sims is not as much as a blow now that we got CJ from last year and Reshad from this years class. But you can never beat experience from upper classmen.

Great stuff geechee on the SEC talk.

By geechee

February 17, 2006 02:20 PM | Link to this

Conyers, here is the story on Sims from Josh Kendall at the Macon Telegraph

By godawg

February 17, 2006 02:37 PM | Link to this

If past performance is an indicator of future behavior it looks like Sims is gone for good.

By northwestDAWG

February 17, 2006 03:27 PM | Link to this

geechee, ditto on the thanks for SEC Talk. Got to tip my hat to the ‘ole Miss. coach. He had the best year of recruiting that ‘Ole Miss. has had since I don’t know when. Even with Eli, Cutcliff couldn’t match this kind of class. I don’t mind the ‘Rebs being the subject since we play them this year. If Notra Dame is ever the subject then I’ll join the chorus

By BirdDawg

February 17, 2006 03:37 PM | Link to this

I like this guy, Geechee. Interesting name, and a much, much better source of Dawg information than Carter Stricklan could ever be.

How about this, AJC sports editors, how about you hire Geechee to be the Dawgblogger? He’s ten times more likable, ten times more engaging, he doesn’t hold us fans, the SEC, or UGA with the obvious contempt that Carter Strickland seems to. The man is horrible, and must go.

You know who you people at the AJC remind me of? The guys in who put Joe Thiesmann in the Monday Night Football chair. Everyboday and their mother hates Joe’s style as an announcer. The fans and the media. Al Michaels even begged out of his contract because he didn’t want to work with that hack. Yet, ESPN stubbornly refuses to get rid of him. You people at the AJC are the same. We are tired of Carter Strickland. You know what? I know Winklejohn is still in your doghouse for yelling at Mora, so why don’t you trade him for Strickland? Give us Winklejohn, a dedicated professional, and give the Insects what they deserve - Carter Strickland.

And three cheers for Geechee, for without him, we wouldn’t know anything that is going on with our Dawgs!

By northwestDAWG

February 17, 2006 04:05 PM | Link to this

your right about geechee. I wonder if his blog name has anything to do with Savannah? I always have a good time with him because he is knowledgeable and when we disagree it’s fun, but he does seem to know a lot

By BirdDawg

February 17, 2006 04:27 PM | Link to this

Ahh, I’ve only been to the lovely city on the river by the sea once in my life. I must get back some time. As for disagreements, I don’t think I’ve yet to find one with Geechee. He seems to be a most agreeable sort of fellow.

By godawg

February 17, 2006 04:34 PM | Link to this

Now I think we’ve have gone made the ajc and Carter mad at us ya’ll. They didn’t give us a new topic and left us off the 4pm blitz.

By godawg

February 17, 2006 04:40 PM | Link to this

OR… maybe Carter is working on something really killer….

By War Eagle

February 17, 2006 11:39 PM | Link to this

I am a Dawg fan except when Auburn plays SEC champs. I am totally confused why so many UGA athletes have off season problems from DUI to domestic violence and jail time. There has to be a misjudgement in recruiting individuals who journey into these situations.Last year 5 highly 4 and 5 star athletes did not enroll at Georgia.This year various crimes which lead Coach Richt to determine their fate. Unfortuantly Coach Richt is very lenient with disciplinary action and problems seem to continue. Why does this continue year after year, fans alumni do you need to know the answer?

By geechee

February 18, 2006 03:44 AM | Link to this

Eagle, I don’t think this was a misjudgement in recruiting. We are talking kids here. It is hard to tell about even adults and alcohol. People from all walks of life from pastors to policeman to senators, from mayors to college basketball coaches with the fifth best record in history are busted everyday of the week for DUI. How do you know till it’s too late?

These are kids for the most part, normal college kids who do what normal college kids do. We both know what normal college kids do in normal Southern college towns like Athens, Auburn, Oxford, Charlottesville, etc.

I will admit that MR seems to be more lenient than other coaches when it comes to discipline for what he sees as normal college wildness but I believe it is because he has not forgotten what it was like to play college ball. To quote MR from today’s AJC; “But because a guy makes a mistake, do you just throw him out of the program on a first-time basis? That is very difficult to do. I look back on my life and I would’ve been thrown out of college if I had been caught for all the things I did.”

As far as the four and five star athletes that did not enroll at UGA, they just did not have the grades or test scores to get in. Most were accepted to other SEC schools so, I say this says more about those schools than it does about UGA.

By BuLLdawg

February 18, 2006 07:22 AM | Link to this

I’ll tell you what I find stunning “stunning, and a little bit sick and frightening” to quote you young Carter Strickland, is that you have 2 articles today in the AJC Sports talking about suspensions Coach Richt doled out a long time ago making him try to defend himself from the likes of you sir, in a newspaper that itself readily admits it caters to the 29,000 Georgia Tech alumni compared with the quarter of a million University of Georgia alumni in your readership, when it is The Georgia Institute of Technology who is in the Major Infraction NCAA Database on Probation for the next two entire seasons in Football while you look the other way that Reuben Houston played all the games at the end of the season and the bowl game for Georgia Tech.

How can you paint that picture this morning young Carter Strickland and leave out the issues like a DUI is the worst thing a football recruit can do to you personally ? I do not belittle it, but next to your AJC Story detailing Reuben Houston’s admission in your own paper that he purposely set up a drug deal for 93 lbs. of drugs in the van he was in taking them to at his friend’s place on Tech’s campus, coupled with Tech’s Probation in Football for the next two (2) entire seasons, this pales by comparison.

Fair and balanced reporting ?

I hardly think so.

You run stories of how Georgia Tech is assuring itself of an NIT bid in Men’s Basketball, with again their loss to Georgia (Who also hasn’t lost to Georgia Tech in Football in 15 consecutive seasons now according to both the AJC and according to The NCAA.) today as well.

So, what is your angle on The University of Georgia ?

Is it out of control Coach Richt at Georgia ?

What can be done to fix this horrible awful stuff ?

2 players arrested on suspicion of DUI.

God, how can this be tolerated ?

While Georgia Tech is going to get an NIT bid you say.

While Tech has hired a guy who is a great recruiter in college football, you say today too.

Excuse me, Georgia is NOT ON PROBATION IN FOOTBALL THE NEXT TWO (2) ENTIRE SEASONS, and we did not PLAY Reuben Houston in our Secondary every game at the end of the season with his admissions of the said 93 lbs. drug deal he was setting up with his friend driving with his infant in the van on Georgia Tech’s campus.

This Georgia Tech Football Team whom Georgia Football Teams have beaten 12 games in a row.

The “3 Tech wins” do not count, according to The NCAA and according to the AJC, you said.

5 Straight Bulldog Wins over Georgia Tech in Football since, mind you.

And, 7 Straight Bulldog Wins over Georgia Tech in Football before, mind you.

12 consecutive Wins by Georgia over Tech in Football.

12 years in a row.

Not beaten Georgia in 15 consecutive years according to both the AJC and according to the NCAA.

The NCAA who has Georgia Tech on Probation in Football.

One might think that the AJC might balance two DUI arrests with Georgia Tech is on Probation in Football the next entire 2 years in Football and played Reuben Houston as much as they possibly could at the end of the season despite his admission to the AJC of just what he was doing with his infant on Tech’s campus in the van with 93 lbs. of drugs setting up a major drug deal with street value of half a million dollars.

Or more.

Why does your article not report that the Macon newspaper, Josh Kendall, does report that Coach Richt has already suspended both players ? One November 5th, 2005, which is three and one half months ago for this DUI and the other who remains permanently suspended indefinitely. This while of course, poor ole Georgia Tech plays Reuben Houston every single game at the end of the season as much as The Georgia Institute of Technology could possibly muster and still LOST to Georgia by half our score to run the consecutive years Tech has not beaten Georgia in Football according to again the AJC and The NCAA, 15 consecutive years now.

I get a little fed up with it.

This framing of Georgia by the AJC.

And, this coddling of On Probation Georgia Tech.

And, playing Reuben Houston.

Where are the same questions to Georgia Tech who doesn’t even have an Athletics Director as a result ?

The Orlando Sentinel reported two weeks ago in an online story there then that Georgia was a lot harder to gain and keep admission at than Georgia Tech is for its athletes.

And, you want to spend the off-season teaching us that Coach Richt, a fine Christian, responds that he has doled out punishment and is doing what Georgia Tech is not.

Only you missed it.

I did not.

As for your inane comments about recruiting that some dropout of The University of Tennessee at ObKnoxiousville is being recruited heavily to Ole Miss as their Starting QB of the future, Brent Schaeffer, well Georgia Tech named its Football Stadium after yet another college dropout, Bobby Dodd, who never graduated from TN and in fact was a dropout from there too, like Brent Schaeffer was.

At least Brent Schaeffer is trying to get a college degree.

Why don’t you just admit it young Carter Strickland ?

That you really want to frame these 2 articles by you today with no ability to have anyone comment about them to you there, but do here in the blogs, as poor ole Georgia Tech cannot recruit their way out of a wet paper bag despite the fact that it sits in a city of 5 million and isn’t even the 2nd or 3rd biggest college in this state.

That Georgia Tech isn’t in the Top 50 at recruiting football players despite being easier according to The Orlando Sentinel two weeks ago to get their players admitted and allowed to play rather than being suspended indefinitely while Georgia is averaging Number 5 in the nation on both Rivals and Scout.com over the last 5 years worth of football recruiting rankings that they both have available for you young Carter Strickland to average that make up the teams this up-coming season, including Redshirt Seniors.

Why don’t you discuss, even parenthetically, that subliminally, The University of Georgia has averaged in the Coach Richt Era at Georgia Number 9 in the Final AP Polls. That Georgia has Won 87 games and lost but only 27 starting 1997. That only one school has more wins in the same last 9 consecutive seasons and but only one other school has been ranked in the Final AP Polls every year for the past 9 consecutive years.

Why not ?

You remember telling us that Georgia Tech was once ranked every year in the Final AP Poll ? Well, that was several years ago now, and I reminded you then that Georgia was as well, only you ignored it.

Now, of course, Tech isn’t and hasn’t been, and isn’t going to be, and admits that it cannot strangely and I find that ” stunning, and a little bit sick and frightening” while here sits this program doing what it is doing and you having to resort to taking pots shots at Georgia while Tech is in such total disarray and shambles in its Athletic Department.

Hey young Carter Strickland, do you recall The SEC Championship Game I was at ? Guess where it was played while the ACC played their game at the Gator Bowl in Jacksonville with 22,000 empty Jacksonville Gator Bowl seats ? Foggy memory on that one young Carter Strickland ? It is here in Atlanta every year, The SEC Championship Game that if Coach Richt plays in this up-coming season at 9-4 to possibly go 10-4 then, it will be Coach Richt’s 4th time the last 5 years that he has.

A little fair and balanced reporting, young Carter Strickland ? Something that Bill O’Reilly says the AJC is woefully inadequate as. That is his statement on the 680TheFan Air yesterday I listened to him stating.

I would have to agree with him on that.

There is nothing wrong in Ed Orgeron flying to Florida and California to sign a QB. The stunning and frightening part of the whole blog of yours today young Carter Strickland is that The Georgia Institute of Technology does not.

Georgia certainly does too.

Or, have you forgotten that neatly too while you stunningly refuse to allow our comments to those 2 biased articles of yours today in the AJC.

stunning, and a little bit sick and frightening, that is

By BuLLdawg

February 18, 2006 09:36 AM | Link to this

.

As for SEC Talk, thank you for the URL Link, and I will check it out with 600 posters there. Software is key to any good discussion group, and once I log in and type a few posts, I’ll report on its abilities regarding posting photos, being able to edit the post for typos, and other related abilities that separate one site from another in its interface.

On that topic, I would like to once again point out just how badly the AJC needs a forum for Bulldog Fans to discuss too and how much I hate this particular software interface, and how much I hate the fact that Carter Strickland thought for one New York nanosecond that he would get away with posting his biased against UGA views once again without allowing us to respond directly to these “articles” by him in the AJC again today that somehow Georgia is worse or more lax in allowing transgressions by football recruits to go unpunished without suspensions, which is totally bogus.

You cannot name a player that Coach Richt has not suspended for any offense, however minor.

Why this bog makes it sound like that is the case, just because Carter Strickland’s articles today do not tell you what is already mentioned here by now 2 of us by Josh Kendall of www.macon.com did that both DUI players have been suspended for quite some time before his articles today on it, remains puzzling. Be careful what you read when they provide no name yet of a Coach Richt recruit that he has not suspended for however minor the infraction compared to the major drug busts on Tech’s on campus of their football team as we speak, for example, whom they played against us and everyone else at the end of the season and just after he had his day in AJC light admitting the whole sordid affair on their Tech campus with his infant on his lap in the van.

And, being on Probation in Football.

We need, indeed, our own AJC discussion group to allow fair and balanced reporting of the AJC biased viewpoint against The University of Georgia and coddling of Georgia Tech the same day in the AJC.

stunning, and a little bit sick and frightening, that is that we do not allow direct responses to the articles in the AJC but have a blog today at least that does still allow us to speak our minds on UGA football in response.

Thank you for this AJC. I respect you for this, although you should have a Bulldogs Football Discussion Group Software like every other newspaper in the world does.

Clifton Geathers is the real deal at not only OL as indicated above, but also at a key weakness of this football team for many years in a row now, Defensive Tackles who can tackle.

His 6 feet 7 inches frame is not properly described at 280 lbs. without stating his Nike 40-Yard Dash Time is 4.9 seconds.

His arm strength, body control, strength, size, height, weight, feet, balance, and speed is unmatched by any Defensive Tackle on our Roster.

He would start at DT this season at UGA who has averaged the Number 5 Recruiting Class the last 5 consecutive years that make up this team in desperate need of both a Starting DT this season, and a Starting Offensive Lineman next season after our Seniors Graduate on the OL after this season.

He is slim like Richard Seymour who I thought was the Super Bowl MVP last season.

4 have been now Super Bowl MVP’s for The Bulldogs, Super Bowl or NFL Championship Game as Charley Trippi accomplished that for Chicago after he was the Overall NFL Number 1 Draft Pick for Chicago scoring several TDs in the NFL Championship Game he won as a direct result. College and Pro Football Hall of Fame both as QB and as Running Back, Charley Trippi remains perhaps our Most Impressive Bulldog ever.

And, he certainly didn’t say that he went to College Park when interviewed about it but Georgia Bulldog he states still today.

Jake Scott, Terrell Davis, Charley Trippi, Hines Ward NFL Championship Game MVP’s who played their college football for The Georgia Bulldogs.

And, like I said Richard Seymour should have been at least 1 if not 2 of his 3 Super Bowls too.

A Client of mine, told me the reason for “from College Park” is that Hines Ward did not graduate from Georgia. She told me that her daughter, attending now, told her that.

I hardly think Hines Ward can turn his back on UGA.

His 1,000 yards passing rushing receiving and returning for Georgia speaks for itself. He is my Hero. I have certainly not turned my back on you and support you endlessly Hines, sir.

Sorry, I was talking about Geathers : His brother Robert played for UGA as you all recall and lettered every year 2001, 2002, and 2003. Robert Geathers is today Defensive End with the Cincinnati Bengals. His father, also Robert (Senior), played 6 seasons with the NFL Buffalo Bills.

And, his Uncle Jumpy, had played at Georgia Tech, which made the recruitment of Robert Geathers to Georgia instead all the more satisfying to me personally as I witnessed that recruitment too with great glee and he too was an NFL passing rusher of great ability as you no doubt recall as I for the Saints, Redskins, Broncos and Falcons. Gregory A. Gathers, played at Georgia Tech in 1999. Maybe everyone did not know that ? But, we who follow Georgia Recruiting do. And, that he spelled his name differently from Robert and Clifton Geathers, this Jumpy Gathers.

Auburn, Clemson, Florida, Florida State, Georgia, South Carolina, South Carolina State, Tennessee and Virginia Tech in alphabetical order, but not Georgia Tech.

Fascinating. All would love this Man.

Over 100 Tackles from his Defensive Tackle Position this season.

In the U.S. Army All-America Game some of us watched with our other 2 Signees this season, the fact that his brother Robert played for UGA before his now NFL career, may well put us ahead of FSU whom he visited last weekend.

This Man is a Lean Mean Fighting Machine.

He recorded a 4.8 recently and yet is nearly 300 lbs.

Leonard Pope is impressive speed for his size and so too is Clifton Geathers. Please do not dismiss his ability on the Defensive Line just yet and say only OL. Recruiting Services frequently get the position wrong. I think they have with this Man.

100 tackles, 4 sacks in a season and all we say is OL ?

Not I. Include me out of that limited discussion of him please.

Please.

When and if he could qualify like his brother at UGA, I have no problem waiting on him like Leonard Pope from Hargrave Military School, if that is necessary.

http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=135&p=9&c=8

As for Darius Dewberry with his 218 lbs. of 5-Star 4.65 speed as the 8th best Linebacker in the country already from Hargrave Military too, well his time has arrived. Transgressions by Linebackers ahead of him when we 1st Signed him, have left his position far more open than then.

He had, as you recall, 109 Tackles and 8 sacks.

Everyone quit following Darius once he Signed with Georgia and then went to Hargrave Military where no one ever de-commits to their College Choice for Honor reasons.

And, unlike Clifton Geathers out of South Carolina, Darius Dewberry is out of Peach County as the state of Georgia ranks behind only California, Florida, Texas and then Georgia in our high school players going on to play in the NFL. He is a fine looking Man who is going to be Great. We have 42 former Bulldogs in the NFL today, most of whom Rodney Garner brought here with his now $231,000 annual salary.

Exciting stuff in recruiting and forget not that Recruiting is the Lifeblood of any team.

Just ask Auburn Number 12.2 average for 5 years, Miami of Florida averaging Number 7.6, Florida State Averaging Number 6.8, about Georgia averaging Number 5.8 the last 5 years on both Rivals and Scout.com.

Or look at our Number 9 Average Ranking in the Final AP Poll in the Coach Richt Era we have been ranked in the last 9 consecutive years of 87-27 (one better).

Thanks for the great posts again Bulldog Nation, and the questions of Darius Dewberry and of Robert Geathers little brother, Clifton Geathers – a Star for Certain of The Future on the Defensive Line as so many others in his Family.

By War Eagle

February 18, 2006 03:18 PM | Link to this

geecgee, I agree about different walks of life especially, as you stated, young 17,18 kids. It just seems UGA has more than other SEC schools. Of course, we get local media responses from AJC, whereas,the Baton Rouge Advocate has their local print.. We had a few character flaws at Auburn in 2001, Coach Tuberville took immediate action with dismissal of Dandtay Greene starting WR and probably All American. He pull a gun at a party and shot it in the air.Previously he was told stop cutting classes, which he responded.We have had few problems since, one of our starting LB(Kevin Sears)) was suspended for the UGA(DUI), but you never know from one season to the next.BullDawg, are you a writer? I rather read your articles than any ajc sportswriter…nice work. Auburn has thousand of alumni in Metro Atlanta, our home games they use the AP, usually a question-answer article.

By geechee

February 18, 2006 06:28 PM | Link to this

Eagle, athletes at UGA do not get special privileges from campus police nor Clarke Co police. This is one big reason it appears that things might be worse at UGA. When UGA athletes get busted, they stay busted. There are no coverups to protect them.

What about LSU defensive end Claude Wroten who was charged with possesion of pot with intent to distribute last month. He also had $4,000 in cash in his pocket. The charges were quietly dropped this week.

What about the three UF players who were questioned by Gaineville police last weekend for firing shots into the apartment of two women. Police found the guns in one players apartment.

By BuLLdawg

February 19, 2006 12:16 AM | Link to this

. No. I’m not on the payroll of the AJC. In fact, I loathe their “sportswriters” and therefore would consider any confusion on that point, an insult. I am one of many in The Bulldog Nation who study our hobby, college football. As for the discussion of the open records’ act in this state that many other states do not have, and the Written Policy by UGA that Vincent J. Dooley wrote for us that any discretions by UGA Athletes will be taken to the press and presented by UGA to the press, well that policy does not exist at all for the Georgia Institute of Technology.

Tech is a very small school in the 1st place. And, last week they appealed to have a player on their men’s basketball team which the AJC says is going to go to the NIT Tournament (Yeah, right.), put back onto the team even though he did not meet the Required Eligibility at Tech. The AJC totally covered all that up even with the Open Records’ Act of Georgia.

The guy flunked out of Tech, and he is playing on their team again this week.

Again, the Orlando Sentential last week ran a study of the toughest schools to get into and to stay in in the nation and Georgia was one of the very hardest and Georgia Tech one of the easiest for their athletes.

This men’s basketball player of Tech last week would not be qualified as a Tech Student except that he is on Scholarship for that whiney coach Tech has. On an aside here, did anyone note that Georgia Tech fired Bobby Cremins as their coach, and now has renamed their basketball gym, built in the 1800’s for Bobby Cremins.

Ok, so Tech played 18 ineligible to play athletes for 6 years according to The NCAA. Tech still tries to present in the AJC that they did nothing wrong. Excuse me, those were the best players on those teams too for Tech. Guys like Joe Burns, their starting Running Back.

And, I see no one explain to me how Reuben Houston played Safety against Georgia. $4,000 cash and a few drugs too much for his own consumption ? Excuse me, 93 lbs. of pot on Tech’s campus in a van he was in with his infant setting up the drug deal, he said to the AJC.

Taking them to a friend of his who he knew, he said to the AJC a couple months ago, would sell the 93 lbs. of drugs for them.

And, so what does Tech do ? ] Plays him against us and in the bowl game too.

Give me a friqin’ break.

At the University of Tennessee at ObKnoxiousville, who has not been ranked now in football in the Final AP Polls 3 of the last 6 years now, they too, have such criminals on Phfat Fil’s team. And, he too does not suspend their players.

At UGA, Coach Richt has suspended every player for whatever transgression, however minor compared to Tennessee, Virginia Tech, Florida State, and Georgia Tech major criminal activities by their players they cover it all up about in the 1st place.

You cannot tell me one UGA football player that has not been suspended by Coach Richt.

Look, this young Carter Strickland character puts that up as the Major Reason why UGA is out of control, that we have 2 suspended football players that he is writing about today in his 2 biased articles on UGA Football and Coach Richt.

I read just 2 weeks ago that Auburn had a DUI for one of their football players. Is he suspended ?

Do you have an open records act in Alabama as we do here ?

Do you have a written policy in your Athletics Department that Auburn University will take all the sordid details to the press and present it to them ?

As *geechee says here, does The University cover it up, or try to cover it up, or try to present it in a less than candid presentation of the facts ?

This DUI Carter Strickland writes about today in the AJC happened nearly 4 months ago now today as he writes the article.

3 and a half months ago.

And, he was suspended then for the DUI by Coach Richt.

And, the other UGA Football player young Carter Strickland discusses today in the AJC, also happened a while ago and he too was suspended for it at the time and still is suspended for it yet the details of that situation are far less clear.

Other than both were drunk.

Oh, my God.

2 College kids away from home, happened to have no concept of how much they drank that made them legally drunk.

As Coach Richt said to young Carter Strickland, he and I would have both been suspended from school had we either been caught doing the same thing.

Maybe not driving, but the point is that we are open about what our football players do, others are not, and that we don’t cover it up.

And, we absolutely suspend them for their actions.

What do you want ?

Angels ?

I respect Coach Tommy Tuberville for his own dealings with your University where I think he holds his head high as you guys treat him like dirt.

His comes into this state, and picks off a few good players every year, but with the manner in which he is treated by Auburn Discussion Groups, your former Athletics Director, your former president, and Bobby Lowder along with your fans there at Auburn, you deserve to lose a Coach as fine as Coach Tommy Tuberville is both on the field and off.

Coach Tommy Tuberville’s hiring of Bulldog Hero Will Muschamp is clearly a great hire from a Head Coach who has a record of hiring great Defensive Coordinators before Will Muschamp.

But, your fans at Auburn ran the last 2 Defensive Coordinators he hired, off.

Last season, you Auburn fans said that your DC was no bloody good. But, when I look at the season just finished which left Auburn the worst ranked team of all the ranked SEC teams at Number 14, I find Auburn lost to Georgia Tech whom Georgia beat in the Final Regular Season Game by twice their score because Auburn did not score.

It was not the fault of the DC Coach Tommy Tuberville had coaching the defense, Al Borges’ Offense did not score against Georgia Tech and so we beat them and Auburn lost to them.

LSU. Auburn’s DC is not to blame for the loss by Auburn last season to LSU, who Coach Richt beat by 3 touchdowns in the very next game after we doubled Georgia Tech’s score. Again, your Defense was fine and you lost when your offense did not score.

Wisconsin. Again same thing. Auburn was unable to muster a thing on Offense against one of the worst defenses this nation saw last season in Wisconsin. And, again your defense was not the reason for the loss.

I point these games out because Coach Richt whooped those teams Auburn lost to in our last 2 games before the bowl game loss to Number 5 Final AP Poll West Virginia 35-38.

And, therefore Coach Richt Won his 2nd SEC Championship in the last 4 years, while Phillip Fulmer has only 2 in the last 14 years by direct comparison. This up-coming season is his 15th season since he stabbed Johnny Majors in the back to steal his job there.

Try reading again what it is that Coach Richt replied to young Carter Strickland ?

Young Carter Strickland thinks that it is the right way to measure a football team by counting up their suspensions, as he did twice today in 2 articles about suspensions that had long since been doled out for transgressions, not covered up, nor nearly as egregious as those at Georgia Tech that left Reuben Houston playing against us.

UGA is a tough place.

We are very hard to gain Admissions to, and we are equally harsh on the football players to keep their eligibility.

What is Coach Richt, a fine Christian, to do ? Not suspend the players and try to teach them right from wrong at age 17 ?

Or 18, or 19 ?

Instead of acting like Coach Richt is NOT suspending his players, when no one has named one player yet of his in 5 years here at UGA that he has not suspended, try looking at the offenses of his players and compare them to these offenses of let’s say Reuben Houston, as he readily admits to the AJC himself.

What’s out of control ?

Georgia Tech covering up Reuben Houston and playing him against us ?

Georgia Tech covering up their 18 ineligible players and still again last week a current member of the Tech men’s basketball team who is not eligible according to The Georgia Institute of Technology to be in their school at all.

Yet, they broke the rules of Tech for a basketball player Tech is desperate to have on Saint Paul Hewitt’s team.

How long has Saint Paul Hewitt been at Georgia Tech ? Do you know ?

His team is Number 131 in the RPI. There is no excuse for that. Does the AJC make this point to him ? Hell no.

Go to www.CollegeRPI.com

Did you know that Paul Hewitt has Lost 10 of his last 11 games ?

Does the AJC make this point either ?

Hell no.

It is I, and thank you for the complements War Eagle, that has to come in here and in a fair and balanced report, provide you the details that the AJC categorically refuses to print.

That Paul Hewitt has Lost 10 of his last 11 games.

What did the ACJ print about Saint Paul Hewitt instead ?

That he is going to be in the NIT Tournament.

That’s the current story.

Give me a bloody break the # 131 RPI team who has lost with a mature head coach there for all these years now, 10 of their last 11 games is going to be chosen to play in the NIT.

It is biased reporting by the AJC “sportswriters.”

And, young Carter Strickland puts Coach Richt on the carpet ?

Did you read the article in print today in the AJC by young Carter Strickland sitting down with Coach Richt to discuss, he titles the piece please note :

“With Spring Practice nearing, staff writer Carter Strickland sits down with Georgia football coach Mark Richt for a State-Of-The-Program Update.”

State-Of-The-Program ?

With that headline young Carter Strickland, one might has suspected that The Football Program in the Coach Richt Era would be discussed such as he has Won 2 of the last 4 SEC Championships, been ranked in the Final AP Poll Top 10 the last 4 consecutive years, has averaged in both Rivals and Scout.com the Number 5 Program in the country in recruiting, has beaten Auburn 2 of the last 4 games between the 2, has beaten Georgia Tech every year, has beaten Tennessee every year but 1, has been the Best Program in the Best Conference in College Football for the last 3 years, the last 4 years, the last 5 years and the last 6 years.

That’s what I would say the State-Of-The-Damned-Program is.

And, that a strict disciplinarian is in charge of The Program and doling out suspensions left and right to make his point that he is not lenient to the kids at all.

I greatly enjoy reading all of your posts too.

By BuLLdawg

February 19, 2006 02:31 AM | Link to this

3.

You want to show me the Official WebPages of Auburn University and Georgia Tech that breaks news such as this ?

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ATHENS — University of Georgia center Ian Smith, who will be a redshirt freshman this fall, has been suspended for the first two games of the 2006 season by head coach Mark Richt for violation of team rules related to conduct.

“I’m very disappointed and penalties for behavioral issues are going to be severe,” said Richt. “Playing time is valuable to all players and it will be very limited to those who cannot conduct themselves in an appropriate manner.”

http://georgiadogs.collegesports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/021806aaa.html

Here is another report that is in error :

Richt suspends Smith two games

By Josh Kendall Reporter Date: Feb 18, 2006

ATHENS – Georgia coach Mark Richt didn’t waste any time Saturday dealing with the most recent transgression by one of his players.

Center Ian Smith, a rising redshirt freshman from Cartersville, was suspended for the first two games of the 2006 season after being arrested early Saturday morning on charges of intoxication. “I’m very disappointed and penalties for behavioral issues are going to be severe,� Richt said in a statement released by the school. “Playing time is valuable to all players, and it will be very limited to those who cannot conduct themselves in an appropriate manner.�

Smith was booked into the Clarke County jail at 5:18 a.m. Saturday and released two hours later on $500 bond, according to the jail’s official Web site. He may be facing more charges from the incident because his age on the Web site is listed as 21, which would make him legal to drink.

However, Smith’s was born on Sept. 19, 1986, according to Georgia’s media guide. That would make him underage to possess and drink alcohol and could lead to additional charges. It’s unclear how the error occurred.

Richt spoke to Smith on Saturday about the incident, but it’s unknown if Richt has factored Smith’s age or the possibility of more charges into his punishment decision, said Claude Felton, Georgia’s associate athletic director for communications.

Smith sat out last season but would have had a chance to earn the starting center job this year. Rising senior Nick Jones is penciled in as the No. 1 center heading into spring practice.

Smith is the third Bulldog to be arrested on alcohol-related charges since November. Defensive reserves Antonio Sims and Dannell Ellerbe have been charged with DUI in that time period. Sims currently is appealing a suspension from school for his DUI and another incident. Richt has not announced a penalty for Ellerbe yet.

http://georgia.scout.com/2/500718.html

Coach Richt suspended Ellerbe indefinitely from the football team, so that report is incorrect, isn’t it ?

And, here is young Carter Strickland’s report note an entire day later:

OL Smith suspended 2 games after arrest

By CARTER STRICKLAND The Atlanta Journal-Constitution Published on: 02/19/06 Athens — Georgia offensive lineman Ian Smith was picked up and arrested on a charge of public intoxication by Athens-Clarke County police early Saturday morning.

By Saturday evening, Georgia coach Mark Richt had decided to suspend Smith for the first two games of the 2006 season.

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“I’m very disappointed, and penalties for behavioral issues are going to be severe,” Richt said in a statement. “Playing time is valuable to all players and it will be very limited to those who cannot conduct themselves in an appropriate manner.”

Smith, 19, was booked into Athens-Clarke County jail at 5:18 a.m. and released on $500 bond at 7:19 a.m., according to the booking report.

The redshirt freshman is the third player suspended from the football team or school this offseason. Linebacker Dannell Ellerbe is indefinitely suspended for a DUI and automobile theft in January. Defensive back Antonio Sims was arrested for a DUI and has been suspended from the university.

Smith, who is from Cartersville, is a backup lineman.

http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/uga/stories/0219gafoot.html

Note again, that the report is that 1st UGA reported it and then 24 hours later, the AJC beat writer read that and reported it.

And, note that the AJC “sportswriter” speaks of this latest incident as being the 3rd Suspension from the team for next season’s games.

Again, the details of this incident are also not yet fully known except that he too is drunk.

Having graduated our 2 Centers from last year’s Senior Class that went 44-9 here, this is a key position for Coach Richt’s Team, Center.

I would not expect young Carter Strickland to know that.

And, indeed, he reports only that he is a backup lineman.

Uh, no, he is the only Offensive Lineman recruited by UGA in last season’s class (And, only 1 OL for the Class the year before too.) And, young Carter Strickland, as every other report already said when you read their story 1st about what you are supposed to be covering, Ian Smith is Our Center who had Significant Playing Time with our New Quarterback this season headed his way.

The 2-game Suspension INSTANTLY by Coach Richt is a harsh indeed stiff penalty, as that means he cannot play against Steve Spurrier’s South Carolina team on the road in Columbia.

While Nick Jones clearly is the front-runner for moving over and taking over the duties this season as a Senior at Center, Ian Smith is clearly the heir-apparent at Center for our New Quarterback of the Future Starting this season.

Again, Ian Smith is the ONLY OFFENSIVE LINEMEN RECRUITED BY UGA LAST SEASON.

And, our Center of the Future when Nick Jones graduates after this season.

The Center Quarterback Exchange figures to loom large in our 9-4 season as I see it this up-coming season and not having the heir-apparent at the Critical Center Position for either the Home Opener and the Road Opener which is also the SEC Opener against such tough competition as South Carolina always is, is huge.

Were he at FSU, he would not be suspended.

Were he at Virginia Tech, he would play.

But, at Georgia, Coach Richt is lax and lenient and out of control because he has 3 players he has suspended already with all the off-season ahead to suspend again about 10 players this off-season as he does instantly and never covers it up nor minces any words about their indiscretions.

Ian Smith was born September 19, 1986, making him 20 years old - not 21. So, he is underage and Coach Richt knows that, which is why he is suspended summarily for 2 complete games, while our Opponents do not suspend their players at all, nor put it on their Official WebPages to break the story to young Carter Strickland in the 1st place.

Bobby Bowden would never suspend Ian Smith, citing : “Why should I punish the whole team against an Opponent like South Carolina in our Conference with such a great Coach as Steve Spurrier in our SEC and Road Opener as well as the 1st game, for what Ian Smith did as a minor?”

That is what Bobby Bowden would say if young Carter Strickland were to call Bobby Bowden for his reaction.

But, young Carter Strickland says UGA is out of control as the State-of-The-Program under Coach Richt because Coach Richt has suspended 3 players already for next season, as he always does and instantly.

By BuLLdawg

February 19, 2006 02:50 AM | Link to this

And, where did young Carter Strickland get this Ian Smith is 19 years old stuff he has made up without looking it up ?

By BuLLdawg

February 19, 2006 03:12 AM | Link to this

Chip Towers, AJC sportswriter, reports on the same day The University of Georgia Official WebPages announced it yesterday that UGA men’s starting basketball players Mike Mercer and Billy Humphrey were both suspended for the Key SEC Match-Up last night against Intramural Vandy, leaving UGA with 3 regular contributors on Dennis Felton’s team last night.

Of course, Chip Towers cannot help himself from pointing out that Felton was 8-20 last season, he talks about in the report he posted last night. Last night, the same day AJC “sportswriter” Mike Knobler reports to us all that having Lost 10 of their last 11 games now, Georgia Tech is going to be in the NIT Tournament. Tech with a 10-14 record so far against what the RPI Ratings show is a very weak not in the Top 50 Georgia Tech Strength of Schedule this season, in a down ACC men’s basketball season with only 1 good ACC team at all, not only did not suspend their men’s basketball player last week when he flunked out of Georgia Tech, according to Georgia Tech rules there; but, actually went to bat for him that although if a general student at Tech, he would have been kicked out of Tech for flunking out of Tech, instead he played in the Loss yesterday.

The 10th Loss in the Last 11 games by Georgia Tech in men’s basketball this season.

This season Tech is going to the NIT.

Do I make the case that the AJC is biased in its reporting ?

And, doesn’t have a clue about the details of that which its “sportswriters” write ?

Why does everyone love my posts here as better ?

Because I look up what I speak about, before I write it, unlike young Carter Strickland.

And, I actually played these sports as a 4-sport letterman myself, and still do - and have a clue.

By War Eagle

February 19, 2006 10:10 AM | Link to this

BullDawg,you are WRONG on several Auburn issues you wrote about. I want to comment on two..”But your fans at Auburn ran two defensive coodinators he hired off.” Gene Chitz took the Asst. Head coach and defensive coodinator at Texas , he has coached in 30 straight games without a defeat. Coach Gibbs had problems with other coaches especially coach Whitt, who moved into the PR office and Coach Gibbs took a job as Defensive secondary coach at Denver.These moves were made within the department and not fans. “I respect CTT for his own dealings with your university where I think he holds his head high as you guys treat him like dirt”Get a life BullDawg, their were about 5 people invovled in the plane trip, nobody else knew about it. All 5 including the President, Athletic Director, Trustee and banker has been replaced or retired. Auburn fans love CTT, he has won more SEC conference games since 2000 than school including your Dawgs and came closer to a NC than Coach Richt has advanced UGA.You are wrong on others, but space it limited.Its ok to down Auburn and fans, but do it in the correct manner.

By BuLLdawg

February 19, 2006 12:04 PM | Link to this

You might want to read some of the Auburn Football Fans’ boards, as I do.

They put down Gene Chizik as the defensive coordinator at Auburn, and I read it. So, how pray tell am I wrong that I read your own Auburn fans say that on your own Auburn boards, as Auburn fans ?

You want me to go get you a direct URL Link to the statements by your fans about Gene Chizik ?

I’m not wrong. Maybe if you spent as much time on your own Auburn sites as you do on our sites telling us we are wrong about what we read on your Auburn sites, you might have a clue what the Auburn fans said about Gene Chizik.

They are no limits the length of the messages here, as my posts here attest. Only once dud I have to break up one of my posts as beyond the limit of characters here. And, then I posted it as two posts, and had no worries mate.

And, as for Coach Tommy Tuberville your own Auburn fans daily put him down as having all kinds of problems they state repeatedly with him as a Coach.

In fact, just last week on your Auburn Student Newspaper fans discussion group there, your own Auburn fans stated there that losing Coach Tommy Tuberville would be no great loss, and that losing Offensive Coordinator Al Borges would be a far greater loss.

So much so that your own Auburn fans said that Al Borges could be paid $600,000 a season and more by your Auburn fans there to keep him, that he is what makes Coach Tommy Tuberville.

They made these bold statements regarding their attempts all season long last season to get your Defensive Coordinator last season, David Gibbs, out of there all year long they whined all last season.

As for your Auburn Offensive Coordinators, you have had 4 in the same number of years 4 when you brought in Al Borges.

David Gibbs was the youngest Defensive Coordinator in Division 1-A of the NCAA when he was at Minnesota in 2000, and so your fans tell the world that he simply used even Gene Chizik’s terminology and tried to emulate his defense, which they say sucked.

It does not surprise me one iota that an Auburn fan would try to disown your own fan base and their statements about Coach Tommy Tuberville, who they always remind the world promised Auburn a National Championship just prior the 1993 season : “We will Win a National Championship” Coach Tommy Tuberville guaranteed prior to the 2003 season. If you need a URL Link to that as well, please ask. In fact, if you buy the Phil Steele college preview, you might want to look at page 46 3rd column under “Coaches” to find this quote directly stated there as well.

Coach Tommy Tuberville your own Auburn fans whine, Lost 5 games instead, picked by many in addition to Coach Tommy Tuberville to win the National Championship.

Instead, they state, to-date he has 1 SEC Championship in 7 years, this year his 8th at Auburn in which to-date they point out that Coach Tommy Tuberville is 60-27.

http://football.stassen.com/cgi-bin/records/calc-wp.pl?start=1999&end=2005&rpct=1&min=1&ss=on&se=on&c1a=on&pt=on&by=Wins

There are in fact twenty (20) teams with a better record than that since Coach Tommy Tuberville took over at Auburn.

In fact, if you look at the just SEC Programs since Coach Tommy Tuberville took over at Auburn, they point out :

. 68-21 Georgia Bulldogs . 62-26 Louisiana State University Tigers . 61-27 Florida Crocodiles . 61-26 Tennessee vols . 60-27 Coach Tommy Tuberville’s record in the same timeframe at Auburn. .

He is the 5th best coach just in The SEC your fans say repeatedly.

As for no fans involved in Coach Tommy Tuberville trying to be replaced prior the Iron Bowl in 2003, after he had promised a National Championship and instead had Lost 5 games, they is as pure unadulterated BS as the rest of your post War Eagle, obviously, as everyone in the nation knows Auburn only has one meaningful fan who runs the show over there, Bobby Lowder.

I guess Auburn fans think they can get away from this sordid past that Auburn has with your fewer players in the NFL than The Bulldogs do, with your 13th place All-Time with 657 Wins to our 693 Wins for 11th place, with your 6 SEC Championships half our 12, and with your coaching carousel over there running all your good staff off, year after year meddling and picking on your coaches.

http://football.stassen.com/cgi-bin/records/calc-wp.pl?start=1869&end=2005&rpct=0&min=1&se=on&c1a=on&pt=on&by=Wins

In fact, you make a big deal about College Football Hall of Fame (17th Bulldog) Coach Pat Dye, who was Consensus All-America Offensive Lineman for the SEC Champions Bulldogs, naming your field after him.

But, the facts of that story too are one and the same for you ran him out of town on a rail when you brought in Terry Bowden when in his first year with Auburn on Probation then, he went undefeated and got no share of any National Championship then either, compared to our Bulldogs 6 National Championships in the Official NCAA Records’ Book Division 1-A.

In fact, Auburn would not even be a football program without the Georgia boys you come over and get to make your best players every year.

Trust me when I discuss Auburn that I know a hell of lot more about it than you do War Eagle.

Will Muschamp is just another in a long line of coaches on Tubs’ staff that you guys run out of town on a rail, like you know something about this sport as fans.

Pay Dye Field.

What a hoot.

You run the guy out of town on a rail, then name the field after him like I am supposed to have forgotten that either ?

I don’t think so.

He put you on Probation in Football you whined for the last 13 years since it happened 1992 before you named the Field for him last season.

Now, of course, he is the Greatest Ever.

Well, he was wrong about Georgia not being Men Enough to Go to Tuscaloosa and Beat Alabama in the Top 10 of the AP Poll at the time in 2002.

You see War Eagle ?

Pat Dye, Consensus All-America Bulldog Offensive Lineman, for SEC Champions Georgia (Then and Now Reigning again for the 12th time 1 behind the vols’ 13 and twice your number of just 6), really is an Alabama Coach.

You see that War Eagle ?

He had every intention and thought it was totally wrapped up to be the Replacement for Bear Bryant at Alabama.

Only it never happened.

He as the Assistant Coach at Alabama, Pat Dye.

Please try to tell me something about Auburn I do not know ?

Your schedules suck every year, even with playing Georgia.

While many older Bulldog fans consider Auburn our Number 1 Rival, as I, many others still feel it is Georgia Tech harkening back to the days when they did have a football program when they were still in The SEC, instead of not beating us 15 consecutive years now.

While Auburn, of course, has Lost both of your last 2 games against them.

Many others point to the Rivalry with Florida who we have a 10-game lead over All-Time, while of course we are 5 games under with Auburn, and 21 games over All-Time ahead of Tech.

We bust LS who by 3 touchdowns last year after doubling Tech’s score in our previous game, both of whom Auburn Lost to, and Auburn fans act like there is nothing you can do wrong and are so much better than Georgia.

I get as much fed up with that as I do reading the AJC “sportswriters” tell me about college football too.

Did you go to The SEC Championship Game at The Dome in Atlanta this year War Eagle, as I on the rainy very cold day they kept us outside in for the longest time before they finally let us go spend our monies inside ?

No.

Not that either.

But, you can presume to tell me what I have not read from Auburn fans in your Auburn Football Discussion Groups.

Try it again Sam.

Your Auburn fans do not care about keeping Coach Tommy Tuberville, but Al Borges.

By War Eagle

February 19, 2006 01:09 PM | Link to this

BullDawg, you have the same talk with UGA groups and message boards. they are a minority and you making it a blow-up.They give CMR hell about his disciplinary problems, even his hair style.. CTT will be at Auburn for a long time and will hopefully continue to beat UGA, 3-2, Bammer 4-1 and LSU 3-2. Auburn athletic department had the largest money donations in schools history last year….SOMEBODY LIKES HIM.BullDawg, I enjoy this blog and have gain respect for many UGA bloggers….you sound like a Bammer tie-in???is this really your problem??

By BuLLdawg

February 20, 2006 02:04 AM | Link to this

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Funny.

I will say this, that there are folks who post on Bulldog Discussion Groups too who are not in the least Bulldog fans, who do not care for Coach Richt.

And, that is exactly what I said to the Auburn fans who said that they really do not care for Coach Tommy Tuberville.

That they are not Auburn fans in the least either.

As for being a Bama fan, my only guess is that because I point out that Pat Dye was an Assistant there to Bear Bryant and figured, no counted upon, being his replacement - but wasn’t; that that is what led to him telling us we weren’t Man enough to go there play them when they are in the Top 10 as they were that week (Ended up AP Number 11 and UGA AP Poll Final Number 3) and beat them - that you think that I am a Bama Roll Tide fan.

There isn’t any other reason to hurl that insult at me as a Bulldog.

I guess anyone who is willing to stand up to an “Auburn has lost fewer SEC Games than any team in the Coach Tommy Tuberville Era at Auburn” fan, has to be a Bama fan.

There is a lot more to being a college football fan than just breaking everything down to being either a Bama fan or an Auburn fan. That Rivalry is passé. It really does not mean much in the whole scheme of things.

Not any more than trying to ignore Auburn’s losses to Georgia Tech the last 2 times you have played them while we have not lost to Tech in 15 consecutive years.

Yes, Coach Richt is 2 Wins and 3 Losses against Auburn. And, yes Auburn is 4-3 against LSU under Tubs. And, yes he is 5-2 vs. Bama.

But, Coach Tommy Tuberville is 1-4 vs. Florida.

Only 4-3 vs. Arkansas.

0-2 vs. Georgia Tech as I say.

He is 5-2 vs. Georgia, but we are 2-2 the last 4.

Tubs has lost to Mississippi State and Ole Miss twice each.

He lost to Syracuse, Wisconsin, Michigan, is only 3-1 vs. the TN vols whom we have beaten 5 out of the last 6 times, and he also lost to North Carolina for Heaven’s sake.

SEC Losses ?

Doesn’t tell the whole story of Tubs, does it ?

In fact, if you look at The Final AP Poll Rankings :

http://www.nationalchamps.net/NCAA/pastAPPolls.htm

1999 Auburn NOT RANKED, Georgia Number 16. 2000 Auburn Number 18, Georgia Number 20. 2001 Auburn NOT RANKED, Georgia Number 21 2002 Auburn Number 14, Georgia Number 3. 2003 Auburn NOT RANKED, Georgia Number 7. 2004 Auburn Number 2, Georgia Number 7. 2005 Auburn Number 14, Georgia Number 10.

What we find is that Coach Tommy Tuberville has lost so many games to so many teams, and many of those Losses Questionable Teams to have lost to, that he has NOT been Ranked 3 years. That’s a lot.

3 years NOT Ranked. That’s as bad as Phillip Fulmer, who has not been Ranked 3 times of the last 6 years themselves, in the Final AP Poll.

And, as for your Coach Tommy Tuberville having lost fewer SEC Games than Georgia since he has been there, well that is totally bogus as well.

Coach Tommy Tuberville is 39-19 vs. SEC Teams since he took over at Auburn 1999, while Georgia in the same timeframe is 42-17 vs. SEC Teams.

http://football.stassen.com/cgi-bin/records/confres.pl?start=1999&end=2005&team=Georgia&limit=500

So, that is just wrong too on your part War Eagle.

Again, try it again Sam.

Auburn has lost fewer games against SEC teams than ANY TEAM you state in the Coach Tommy Tuberville Era at Auburn ?

Uh, that is not true either War Eagle.

He’s Lost 19 and Georgia only 17 and has won only 39 to UGA’s 42.

By War Eagle

February 20, 2006 02:41 PM | Link to this

BullDawg, I have to apoloize about you being a Bammer fan, with this statement you never been to an Iron Bowl or ever seen reactions throughtout the state 365 days a year.”That rivarly is passe~it really does not mean much in the scheme of things”.The rivarly is one of the largest in college football.it is a HATED rivarly while our rivarly with UGA is family, except you. We have provided UGA and visa versa. Pat Dye was a great coach for Auburn, he beat UGA just as CTT has. The only flaw on Coach Dye he put us on probation. You can throw STATS all over this blog, but the bottom line with me and Auburn family is: Auburn is 15-7 last 22 years vs UGA and counting I hope. Why have you never mention the stats on 2-14 against the Gators, got beat at Sanford 40 plus points one year of the Spurrier era? Please no more stats BullDawg.

By BuLLdawg

February 21, 2006 01:27 AM | Link to this

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I did not expect you War Eagle to address in this blog, where we are discussing Coach Tommy Tuberville - who would not even have a team were it not for the players from this state he recruited from here - and how you stated here in this blog that no SEC Team has Lost Fewer Games than he in his time there at Auburn is in fact only 39-19 to UGA’s 42-17.

But, for you to try to tell me how a team who has not even been ranked in The Final AP Polls 3 of his 7 years to-date (Tuberville, while UGA has been ranked in The Final AP Poll 9 consecutive years) plays a game against Alabama who has also not been ranked in The Final AP Polls 4 of the last 6 years as a meaningful game but don’t give you STATS, is over the Top.

Since when are the facts that Alabama has not been ranked 4 of the last 6 years and that Auburn has not been ranked 3 of the last 7 years, not Relevant and just STATS ?

Excuse me, Mr. War Eagle, but that game is obviously, passé.

Maybe, you should look up the word, “STATS” and see if 7 times not ranked recently at all by one of the two Alabama teams, really qualifies as a STAT ?

Maybe, you should look up the word, ” Passé” and see if indeed it means outmoded, dated, old-fashioned, behind the times, obsolete, defunct, outdated and out-of-date ?

No one in the nation gives a rip about Auburn playing Alabama when 7 times in the last 7 years one of your football teams isn’t even in the AP Poll Top 25 teams.

That ain’t no stat, and is in fact what the kids play for.

To be ranked.

Way back when, both Auburn and Alabama were both ranked in the Final AP Polls, but when 4 of the last 6 years Alabama has not been and 3 of the last 7 years Coach Tommy Tuberville even with his best players from the state of Georgia has not been ranked either, then pardon me for bruising your ego, but that Iron Bowl has not meant nothing to the entire nation.

By BuLLdawg

February 21, 2006 01:30 AM | Link to this

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And, it was not I, but you that tried to say that Coach Tommy Tuberville at 39-19 against SEC Teams is better than ANY SEC Team, which would include Georgia at 42-17 in the Coach Tommy Tuberville Era at Auburn.

Isn’t that a stat War Eagle ?

Your stat.

Ok, for you to give us stats, but not ok for me to correct your incorrect stats right back directly ?

By War Eagle

February 21, 2006 10:04 AM | Link to this

BullDawg, CTT and CMR are tied for the most conference wins in the SEC since 2001…17-5 Auburn 5-2 Auburn controls these years….2-14 Gators, controlled these years…probably kept UGA out of the BCS Champiuonship a couple of years. beat these two teams and you are in the “Big show”…Good luck in 2006, hope you win them all except Auburn

By Bill King

February 21, 2006 10:54 AM | Link to this

Just testing to see if this blog is still open for comment.

By Bill King

February 21, 2006 10:55 AM | Link to this

Testing

By War Eagle

February 21, 2006 01:33 PM | Link to this

I`m CLOSED out, no more stats from BullDawg. I respect his knowledge, but stats are thing of the pass…As Al Davis said “just win baby”. BullDawg you are a good man …War Eagle