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DEL.ICIO.USNFL scouting - for coaches
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
One of the reasons the New Orleans Saints went after Rodney Garner and that other college assistant coaches are getting long looks from the NFL this offseason is the lack of NFL-experienced assistants available. That, coupled with multiple teams searching for assistants, has left teams scrambling.
In the pros, there is a stipulation teams must be granted permission to talk to a current assistant coach under contract. Several times the Saints have approached teams about their assistants (Miami and Tampa Bay, for instance), only to be denied permission.
That has left them with nowhere to turn but the college ranks, where there are coaches able and willing to step into the pro game.
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By Bryan G.
February 7, 2006 04:20 PM | Link to this
It would have been cool if this blog at all related to UGA. Perhaps you could have taken the time to talk about Garner and the effects his departure might have on UGA? Or am I just talking out of my a*? Putting effort into your work….there’s a concept.
By Bradley G
February 7, 2006 04:28 PM | Link to this
Now Bryan G., let’s get off of Carter’s back. He knows not his ignorance. I, for one, would never attack a journalist just because he has an obvious inability to talk about valid issues that affect us DAWG fans. You were raised better than that.
By J-Dawg
February 7, 2006 04:45 PM | Link to this
Just pay the man what the top Asst. Head Coach/Def. Coord./Recruiting Coord. in the NCAA gets paid and be done with it. If he wants to leave after that, so be it. If he doesn’t want to be in Athens than we should wish him luck and thank him for all of his efforts. We will survive and thrive now that we have the Richt momentum.
By AltamahaDawg
February 7, 2006 04:56 PM | Link to this
Amen J. Assistance are going to come and go. It happens.
By Bryan G.
February 7, 2006 05:10 PM | Link to this
Bradley G., I would have been raised better had I had any positive influences to look up to in my older siblings.
Altamaha..you’re right. Maybe the Saints will take Eason (ha, ha…kidding, kidding).
By J. Davis
February 7, 2006 05:35 PM | Link to this
Interesting article Carter. I wonder if Garner will leave. Do you think the success of Van Gorder in the pros made these guys from UGA more appealing? Keep up the excellent work. I wonder why Miami and Tampa were so rude to New Orleans. There behavior may have caused us to lose a damn fine assistant.
By J. Davis
February 7, 2006 05:40 PM | Link to this
I meant “their” behavior. Sorry.
By geechee
February 7, 2006 06:01 PM | Link to this
J-Dawg, I’m in total agreement and I’m glad you didn’t give up on posting.
By J-Dawg
February 7, 2006 06:11 PM | Link to this
Geechee- Are you feeling O.K.? Because I thought you just agreed with me on something. Probably mis-read..
By Dawg 05
February 7, 2006 07:17 PM | Link to this
Maybe the Saints are hoping Garner could get something out of former Bulldog and 1st round bust Jonathon Sullivan? I would expect that even if Garner were to stick around next year he would be off to the pros sooner or later because of the amount of talented D-lineman he has put into the NFL over the past few years. It is also the sign of a good program if our assistant coaches are being recruited by NFL teams. Good luck to Coach Garner, wherever that may be. Go Dawgs!
By SugarDawg
February 7, 2006 07:30 PM | Link to this
Thanks AJC. Matt Winklejohn, who does a great job covering the Falcons is now covering Georgia Tech. Why couldn’t someone with his intelligence cover the Dawgs. I post a blog trade, Carter for Winklejohn. If Garner wants to go, so be it, we’ll survive. GO DAWGS!!
By ConyersDawg
February 7, 2006 08:03 PM | Link to this
I’m with you sugardawg on the trade for wink, he is the best reporter that the ajc has.
For those wanting Carter to find out more from Garner, how about letting him get back from the cruise he is on with the other coaches. You can’t talk to someone who is not available.
I posted already once that losing Garner will not stop Ga. recruiting. We got top talent before him and we will get it after him. What is important is the head coach that we have. The program is selling itself and that’s why you see a TE like Nedaris recruiting the Dawgs. It also helps that Bobo is becomming known as a great recruiter as well.
By geechee
February 7, 2006 08:21 PM | Link to this
Conyers, that is if he even hets back from the cruise, lol. Maybe the idea behind the cruise was, you can sign your name right here next to that x or you and your wife can swim back to Athens. I hope they are all able to relax and enjoy a well deserved trip after a great season and a most excellent recruting drive.
By geechee
February 7, 2006 08:22 PM | Link to this
gets not hets
By BIGNCDAWG
February 7, 2006 08:28 PM | Link to this
I haven’t heard from Cuz in a while.
Who would be good for the Dawgs to go after if Garner leaves?
By Mr. Dawg
February 7, 2006 10:23 PM | Link to this
Is anyone else tired of the annual “lets give Rodney Garner a raise and a better job title so he doesn’t leave” game? His agent (I’m assuming he has one, whom I shall blame) holds the school hostage every year. Just let him go. Richt is the key. Top caoches will always line up to work for a man like MR.
By chuck
February 7, 2006 10:23 PM | Link to this
If Garner does go for the dollars and the NFL experience, you can’t blame him. He has done a great job and deserves to keep moving up the ladder. I do hope he sticks around though. If he doesn’t, it is too bad Auburn jumped on Muschamp already. Either way the Dawgs will be alright.
I looked at the returning starters the other day and was pleasantly surprised at the experience. There are a lot of juniors and seniors at the positions other than the well-documented hole at QB. There is only one probable starter on defense that is not a jr and sr and that is Owens at DT and I have plenty of confidence in him. The offense is young only at WR (besides QB), but again I have confidence in MoMass, just need some other receivers to step us well. All in all if the experienced guys can pick it up a little and we find one/two more receivers and a QB with confidence to throw to them, my early thoughts of 7-4 or 8-3 may be a little low. Regardless at South Carolina is a key game.
By BuLLdawg
February 8, 2006 03:54 AM | Link to this
Thank you for asking me what I think AJC.
Well I like Rodney Garner. Jim Donnan did a great favor to UGA bringing him here. I realize that the AJC has an effect on all of our staff, and find it amazing that we all have to go elsewhere to find the news that actually covers our BuLLdawgs. This is a very short piece. When Tech loses, we find excuse after excuse (Refs, Bad Calls by Officials, Academics too tough, too many tough opponents, ACC better top to bottom than SEC, etc.) and on the BuLLdawgs’ side, we find this quip above : “One of the reasons the New Orleans Saints went after Rodney Garner” is that 1-there aren’t any experienced NFL Coaches and 2-NFL teams deny the ability of their staff to interview, which “has left teams scrambling.”
Excuse me.
Rodney Garner’s Strengths and weaknesses should have been discussed, not dismissed out of hand stating the only reason why he was considered for Defensive Line Coach of the New Orleans Saints is that they are left scrambling. I take exception to that kind of framing.
Framing about The BuLLdawgs that has gone on for 50 years.
The BuLLdawgs were # 52 against the run last season in NCAA Ranking of Rushing Defense and # 18 overall (We lose that secondary for next season.) We have been short on Defensive Tackles who actually tackle. They have been pushed around. We are and have been giving playing time to Defensive Ends at Defensive Tackle positions.
Rodney Garner, All-SEC 1st Team and Honorable Mention All-America Nose Guard at Auburn, won SEC Championships 1987 and 1988 with him as Team Captain.
The Coach Richt Era began when 1st Coach Richt hired one Coach off the Donnan Staff :
Rodney Garner.
The guys in the NFL know, because he recruited them here, that he is one of the nation’s best recruiters; still as other posters above so well said : Coach Richt has put us at the Top.
With Rodney Garner on Donnan’s staff, we never ranked as we have with him on Coach Richt’s Staff :
2002 # 3 2003 # 6 2004 # 6 2005 # 10 2006 # 4
Average Recruiting Ranking of both Rivals and Scout.com is # 5
5.8 exactly combined of the two WebPages most often quoted, even by the AJC.
This is his strength, and it is the lifeblood of our team.
We have never averaged as well in our 114-year history.
Now, that is not something that plays into the NFL Coaching Staff’s requirements, that they be good recruiters – unless it is an NFL Head Coach and he is trying to put together a coaching staff of his own. Not recruiting players. That, is called the NFL Draft, the last time I looked at the NFL.
There are a quarter of a million UGA Graduates in Atlanta and I am one. It is closer to Athens from where we live on the North Side of Atlanta to Athens than it is from The Gator Bowl in Jacksonville to the campus of the University of Florida in Gainesville. Yet, there are 30,000 Georgia Institute of Technology graduates here in this fair city. Georgia Tech is On Probation in Football for the next two full complete years and we have beaten Georgia Tech 12 straight games according to The NCAA and Georgia Tech have not beaten us in 15 consecutive years according to The NCAA. And, yet here we have yet another example of not paying attention to what we actually write in the AJC saying that the reason why the Saints went after Rodney Garner is that they are “scrambling.”
I find that offensive.
Starting 1997, Georgia has Won 87 Games and lost only 27. We have two SEC Championships to give us 12, and Coach Richt has 2 in 5 years compared to Phillip Fulmer who only has 2 in 14 years. We are one behind the University of Tennessee at Knoxville’s 13 SEC Championships All-Time and have - by all measures – the # 5 roster of talent in America. We have been ranked 9 Consecutive Years in the Final AP Poll and all of the last 4 of these in the Top 10. We have won 7 of the 9 Bowl Games.
We don’t have a hole at QB; we have a problem of gargantuan proportion to determine by late August this year whether we start another True Frosh at QB such as on campus now Matthew Stafford of Texas generally considered the nation’s # 2 QB, Redshirt Frosh Joe Cox who was # 3 QB last year, Blake Barnes who was so good in the G-Day Game now 3 years ago when he was the # 9 QB in the nation as a Redshirt Sophomore this season, or Joe Tereshinski III a Redshirt Senior considered the only Dual Threat QB of the group who was the # 20 Dual Threat QB in the nation 5 years ago. I don’t have to tell you that we have the best line-up of talent all who came here to learn QB play from Coach Richt specifically of any team in the nation. There is no doubt that Rodney Garner is an up and coming Assistant Head Coach in College, nor that he has recruited us talent since 1998 when Donnan stole him from Tennessee where Fulmer had him teaching tight ends and later the offensive line and tight ends.
To be fair, an article should include that Rodney Garner is also guilty of Tough Love on his Defensive Tackles in the newspapers where he frequently berates them. And, then watches them promptly go out there and not make tackles.
We are thin at Defensive Tackle.
When you have 26 seniors 23 who played last year and 17 of those who were on Scholarship that we will not have next season, you have lost a lot of depth – especially in the secondary. It is great that we won 44 games and lost only 9, which is better than the senior class the year before this that only had 8 seniors and Juniors who went on the NFL which were 42-10.
I’m not sold on the concept that Rodney Garner’s Strengths of Recruiting are really realized in the NFL, but I do think he needs some NFL experience since he only briefly played with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in 1989. The NFL is not scrambling, not with 141 million people watching the game two nights ago.
And, NFL Coaches are paid a lot more than $210,000 a year. In fact, at Auburn they bandy about figures such as $600,000 to keep Al Borges. Note if you will that Auburn lost 3 games last season : Georgia Tech, LSU and Wisconsin and that it was the Offense that could not score in all 3 games and that of those 3 losses, Georgia buried by twice their score Tech, and by 3 touchdowns LSU. We are # 10 in the Final Polls to Auburn # 14 and Won The SEC Championship as a direct result.
The point is that we don’t pay Coach Richt’s Assistants what they are worth. The facts also are that we lost Brian VanGorder for 6 months to a woebegone Jacksonville Jaguars NFL team and now to Georgia Southern University as their Head Coach because this is exactly what we were paying Brian VanGorder.
Auburn can afford $600,000 for one of their Assistants and the most we give Coach Richt to keep his fine staff together is $210,000 ?
Mr. Carter Strickland, sir : The reason why the NFL Saints are considering Rodney Garner is because his Defensive Coordinator and Offensive Coordinators there, were his DC and OC here at UGA in the year 2000, and because we don’t pay him any where near what he or any of the rest of the Coach Richt Staff are worth.
It will cost us a lot more in the open market – with unknown recruiting effect – to let yet another Coach Coach Richt doesn’t want to leave, leave and have to replace him.
I don’t have to tell you that we miss Brian VanGorder, who was right up there with another Auburn graduate, Erk Russell, as one of our Best Defensive Coordinators ever.
$210,000 ?
It is an insult to tie Coach Richt’s hands like this and have President Michael F. Adam$ make his millions. I would also like to say that sitting there at the Sugar Bowl and watching and listening to Adam$ get booed by us all when they tried to introduce him to the crowd, was a lot of fun.
Rodney Garner has put almost all 42 in the NFL that we have such as the 5 on the rosters of the Super Bowl except for Super Bowl MVP Hines Ward of Forest Park who was our Mr. Everything here running, receiving and passing. That is our 3rd Super Bowl MVP and 4th MVP of the NFL Championship Game because Charley Trippi did too on his run to College and Pro Football Hall of Fames and Maxwell Award Winner for The BuLLdawgs.
For years, the AJC didn’t want to hear our opinions and now they ask us to comment after each article ?
It is too bad that they cannot cater to a group that makes up 10 readers to every 1 Tech reader, when there is only 1 other team ranked every season of the last 9 in the Final AP Poll and only 1 other team with a better record than UGA’s 87-27 starting 1997, the year before Rodney Garner came here to be our Assistant Head Coach, Defensive Line Coach and Recruiting Coordinator.
And, while we are on the topic, why doesn’t the AJC print the Official NCAA RPI for Men’s and Women’s Basketball that they released Thursday last week for the 1st week ever ?
Could it be because Georgia is # 73 just outside the March Madness 64 team Bubble in Men’s Basketball, while On Probation in Football the next 2 years, Georgia Tech is # 147. Is it because this is where we played The SEC Championship Game every year while the Gator Bowl hosts the ACC Championship in Football ?
When will the AJC address itself to the University of Georgia, and quit with this us against them framing like Athens is not Atlanta, or like there are not 10 times as many UGA graduates in this city of 5 million than Georgia Tech ?
The reason why Rodney Garner is even being considered by the NFL is that the NFL is “scrambling” indeed sir.
By geechee
February 8, 2006 04:25 AM | Link to this
“We don’t have a hole at QB; we have a problem of gargantuan proportion”
I have to disagree with that point. I also disagreed with people who said that same thing after DG moved on. Mark Richt if he is anything is the single best QB’s coach in the NCAA. He’s coached two above average QBs to the Heisman and his first QB at UGA went on to set the record for wins. Whoever he picks will be just fine.
By DawgBite
February 8, 2006 07:39 AM | Link to this
Amen! QB is no problem at all. My bet is that if Stafford is as savvy and mentally sharp as he is advertised, along with his physical ability…he will become the starter. Give him the ball for 4 years. I would have loved to have seen D.J. develop over 3 or 4 years. DG was a winner, but imagine how good D.J. would have been after 3 or 4 years with the ball in his hands.
By GW
February 8, 2006 08:10 AM | Link to this
Is anyone that is not native to New Orleans really looking to relocate their family there? Even to be one of 15 assistants for the mighty Saints?
By gdawginkalamazoo
February 8, 2006 08:18 AM | Link to this
Wow BuLLdawg aka Rodney Garner. Nice rant (good job on the statistics etc). I agree, we need to pay you what the absolute top of the scale is in the NCAA for assistant coaches/recruiters. You have done one of the best jobs in the country hands down no questions asked. As for Van Gorder he did us good and deserves the best just as you do.
By gdawginkalamazoo
February 8, 2006 08:26 AM | Link to this
Carter, you shouldn’t make it sound like the NFL desparate just because they look to the college ranks. You have to start somewhere in your career. Not everyone is born a Pulitzer Prize winning reporter or an NFL coach. Garner is one good coach and obviously has a knack for dealing with and making an impression on people,which should make him a success at any level.
By gator the dog catcher
February 8, 2006 09:00 AM | Link to this
Geechee - Richt is the best QB coach in the NCAA????? Not even in the top 10. Good qb coach, but not great.
By J-Dawg
February 8, 2006 09:04 AM | Link to this
gator- what a lonely existance…hangin’ out on a UGA blog.
By gator the dog catcher
February 8, 2006 09:07 AM | Link to this
Previous post is in reverse order. 10 should be 1. For some reason the numbers flipped when posted. Just didn’t want any UGAYers to complain about Chuck Long being #1. Spurrier is #1 hands down!
By gator the dog catcher
February 8, 2006 09:10 AM | Link to this
Previous post is in reverse order. 10 should be 1. For some reason the numbers flipped when posted. Just didn’t want any UGAYers to complain about Chuck Long being #1. Spurrier is #1 hands down!
By physicsDawg
February 8, 2006 09:14 AM | Link to this
Dude,
Quit whining, unless the AJC has already turned you down for a job. Just turn in your resume…
I’m not disagreeing with any of your points. There’s just too many of them. That’s more than Carter’s written in 2 months.
By Ala Jim
February 8, 2006 10:04 AM | Link to this
BuLLDAWG should be a Tech man, like in a ” RAMBLIN Wreck”.
By DawgsR#1
February 8, 2006 10:34 AM | Link to this
Gator, if guys like Chuck Long and Chris Hatcher are so good in the top ten why in the world are they at VSU and SDSU?
By gator the dog catcher
February 8, 2006 10:49 AM | Link to this
Hatcher is only 32,33 or so years old. Chuck Long left Oklahoma to be a head coach. That was a stupid question. So let me ask you one. If Brian Van Gorder is so good then why is he at Georgia Southern? Answer: to be a head coach. If you are so good at your job, then why aren’t you the president of your company? Well maybe its that UGAY degree, but still my point is you can’t start out at the top.
By gdawginkalamazoo
February 8, 2006 11:05 AM | Link to this
gator the garbagetalker, nice list. Out of those ten coaches how many (other than Spurrier with one) have coached TWO Heisman trophy winners?
By gator the dog catcher
February 8, 2006 11:14 AM | Link to this
Yeah, FSU is know for bringing in “average” qb’s and turning them into stars. They were already major stars! Do you think Richt could have made Jason White into a Heisman qb? No. How good was Brady Quinn before Weiss. How good was Jason Campbell before Borgues. How good were Mike Leach’s 3 consecutive qbs who threw for 400 per game before Leach got them? Not better than Shockley, and certainly not better than Ward and Weinke.
By gdawginkalamazoo
February 8, 2006 11:26 AM | Link to this
That wasn’t the question. Is your problem not being able to read or not being able to comprhend? How many on your list have coached TWO Heisman trophy winners? Also who coached the winningest QB in NCAA HISTORY? Dude, admit it your list is like your swamp, full of cr*p.
By gdawginkalamazoo
February 8, 2006 11:30 AM | Link to this
That would be comprehend.
By Ricky
February 8, 2006 12:08 PM | Link to this
Gator, how can you have the Fridge on your list? When was the last time he had a top qb? Joe Hamilton in the late 90’s. he hasn’t developed any QB’s at Maryland. Richt coached two Heisman winning QB’s at FSU and now has coached the only two QB’s he has had at UGA to top level college QB’s. One is the winninges QB in NCAA history and the other set the SEC on fire in his only season
By 74dog
February 8, 2006 12:14 PM | Link to this
why do we still have carters while the bees get Winklejohn ? the fishwrapper just don’t get it .
By DawgByte
February 8, 2006 12:23 PM | Link to this
Does anyone else feel like Rodney Garner is holding our program up for hostage? Perhaps that is slightly cynical and overstated, but good grief. Two years in a row this guy has been looking over the horizon at other opportunities, both of which appear to be used as a salary negotiating tool. Enough already Coach Garner… if you want more money or think the grass is greener somewhere else then make up you mind to move on, but stop this flirting stuff.
By Frank
February 8, 2006 12:34 PM | Link to this
Who needs Garner…..Every talented Thug football player in the southeast knows that they can come play for Mr. Hypocrite, wear my religion on my sleeve,Mark Richt and never be suspended for anything short of 1st degree murder !
By DawgByte
February 8, 2006 12:38 PM | Link to this
Frank that was an intelligent post… keep up the good work!
By AltamahaDawg
February 8, 2006 12:42 PM | Link to this
Bryan, Eason will move on one day too.
By geechee
February 8, 2006 01:27 PM | Link to this
Lets not blame Garner like he is doing something wrong. What would anyone do in his position? If you were great at your job and worked at someplace you loved to work and got great raises every year but all of the sudden somebody comes along and offers to double your salary to over half a million a year,what would you do? GW makes a great point with the living conditions in NO and relocating there but, an extra quarter mil may make one look past that.
By chuck
February 8, 2006 01:57 PM | Link to this
geechee, I agree with your point about Garner (as I posted a similar statement earlier). Can’t blame the guy for following the basics of capitalism and a market driven economy. Almost everyone who is looking to move forward in their career would do the same thing. I can’t imagine his highest career goal was to be mentioned as one the best recruiters around. It may be one of his goals, but I would think he probably wants his chance to be a coordinator or a head coach as well, I could be wrong though.
As far as BuLLdawg’s post about the QB situation, I think his point is that there is a ton of talent in the four potential starters. In other words, we don’t have a problem, we have a tough decision to make between capable players (which is a good position to be in). I could be wrong because that was the longest post I have ever seen and I didn’t feel like reading it all.
By Dawgventer!
February 8, 2006 02:13 PM | Link to this
Garner is not going to leave, never was and never will leave. He knows he has it too good in Athens. Why would anyone want to leave the great city of Athens to go to Louisiana? He is just bluffing again here people. We don’t need him anyways. He is over rated, and players come to Athens anyways cause its the best city in the world. CMR is the one who really brings them in, not Garner. I’ll be glad when he is gone, except he wont ever leave. Garner will do this again next year so he can get more money and ticket prices will go up more. Maybe next year it will be LA Tech.
By Mr. Dawg
February 8, 2006 02:26 PM | Link to this
I would like to nominate Frank for Dumbest Person of the Year. Should be a shoo-in.
By jg
February 8, 2006 02:32 PM | Link to this
Mr. Dawg, Dawgventer! would have to be considered a very close second then.
By gator the dog catcher
February 8, 2006 02:42 PM | Link to this
All recruits, At UGAY you can………….. Assault a teacher, drive drunk, steal law enforcement vehicles, take coaching basketball classes, fight with your own fans in bars, get busted for dope, use ebay, be a thug, not learn english, skip all classes…………………and never face any real consequences! But…… due to the lack of discipline, you will most likely lose to Florida your whole career while in Athens. Is it really THAT great to be a geeeorju booldowg?
By Dawgventer!
February 8, 2006 02:50 PM | Link to this
Come on over to the dawgvent and you will hear more of what I’ve been saying!!! We ALL are calling Rodney’s bluff this time. You let West Virginia run right through your D-Line and then you turn around with your hand out looking for a raise? Pathetic!!! He ain’t no better than any other coach on that staff and yet he is looking for another raise. Join in with the Dawgnation and CALL GARNER’S BUFF!
By Dawgventer!
February 8, 2006 02:52 PM | Link to this
That is GARNER’S BLUFF! sorry yall.
By War Eagle
February 8, 2006 03:35 PM | Link to this
I would hate to get into a stats argument with buLLdawg, probably one of the most interesting blog I have read.The only think left out is UGA BIG problem …can`t beat Florida 14-2, and Auburn 15-7 last 16 and 22 years respectively. I would like to add that Auburn gives most of their assistant coaches 2 year contracts, maybe UGA does, but it is rare in the SEC?
By Ricky
February 8, 2006 06:31 PM | Link to this
War Eagle, what is the all time record for UGA against UF and AU? if you are going to play that game, then you have to look at the whole picture. And by the way UGA has won twice as many SEC titles as AU and UF since Richt arrived.
By SugarDawg
February 8, 2006 07:50 PM | Link to this
GATOR: Florida was nothing before Steve Spurrier, and will continue to be nothing in the present. Every school has troublesome atheletes, but not every school has a crybaby for a coach. GO DAWGS!!
By gdawginkalamazoo
February 9, 2006 08:18 AM | Link to this
Ricky, Thank you. These guys want to take a snap shot of a series and run with it, especially when they KNOW that they will be playing Springsteen’s “Glory Days” for the next decade.