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DEL.ICIO.USCan Michael Vick redeem himself?
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Michael Vick will plead guilty to federal dogfighting charges, his attorney says. In your opinion, is there any way Vick can redeem himself?
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By Zeek
August 20, 2007 3:34 PM | Link to this
Absolutely….everybody deserves a second chance!
By Filster
August 20, 2007 3:36 PM | Link to this
The only way Vick could redeem himself, at least to my satisfaction, would be to do something which he has not done to date; namely, tell the truth and accept responsiblity for his actions. He continues to lie, squirm, angle, etc. and look where he is. If he had done the honorbale thing right off the bat, perhaps his career might have been salavaged. As it is, as long as he’s a Falcon I won’t spend a penny on aything to do with the team. Arthur, Rich, are ya listening?
By lisa
August 20, 2007 3:36 PM | Link to this
DOES IT MATTER? Redeem himself with who? Isn’t it safe to assume that his NFL career is over?
By Brenda
August 20, 2007 3:37 PM | Link to this
There will never be any redemption for him as far as I am concerned. I just hope the state of Virginia can still press charges. In any event, I hope he is never allowed to play football again anywhere. He is a disgrace to the human race and anyone who can do the things he did is pure evil.
By jimmy
August 20, 2007 3:37 PM | Link to this
mike doesn’t have to do a thing. sometime over the next few months it will all come out that this was one big set-up and then all of you so called fans will be sorry that you don’t have mike as your qb.
By Toast
August 20, 2007 3:39 PM | Link to this
I wish he could, but if he is guilty of this crime, what does that say about who Vick really is. If killing dogs by his own hand is “normal and not cruel behavior” how can you recover from that?
By Megan
August 20, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this
I have to say that I am very sad to find out that he has pled guilty. As a young man, he had a great chance to be a leader for every community in this country. I hope others have learned from his mistakes. I hope he has learned his lesson and is able to redeem himself. He will have a tough road to show everyone he has changed and will not make the same mistakes again.
By morris
August 20, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this
the man didnt kill a human…regardless if how terrible the killing of dogs are…but let keep it in perspective,,,,he didnt kill a person…this get more attention then the 3 students killing exucution-style shooting in new jersey…how sad is that!
By Falcon 4 Life
August 20, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this
I certainly hope so.
By Diogenes
August 20, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this
Can he at least rehabilitate himself in the public’s eyes? Sure he can. Look, I’ve lambasted him here as much as anyone. That being said, I’ll listen seriously to anyone who sincerely apologizes, and then through his actions, shows he really means it.
Michael, drop the cocky, thuggish attitude. Say you’re sorry, and mean it. Go on talk shows, and come clean about what you did. Give money (a lot) to animal-related and other charities. Straighten up your life, and drop your thuggish friends. TALK to kids, and teach them that “being from the ‘hood” is no excuse to wallow in violent and lawless behavior.
Do all that, and I’ll listen. Seriously, too. And, I’ll be the first to give you a second chance once you’ve paid your debt. Fair enough?
By Think about It.
August 20, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this
Not in this time he would have been better off killing a black man. Then the white public and the feds wouldn’t be so hard on him. There is justice for white america and a differrent justice for black america. Face it where I grew up dogs did’t live in our houses, we didn’t and don’t kiss them in mouth nor do we value them above humanity. Don’t care what anyone of you say Vick was a threat from the time he came into the league. Now that Vick and DJ are gone the falcons look like the birds of old. Welcome back blackouts.
By Mike
August 20, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this
Doesn’t matter if he can redeem himself, by the time Mr. Poindexter and the State of Virginia finish with Vick he’ll be washed up mentally and physically as far as the NFL is concerned.
By Jknop
August 20, 2007 3:42 PM | Link to this
Does anyone really care? He obviously can’t make rational decisions without consulting his thug buddies. He’ll be back in trouble within 10 minutes of getting out. See ya Mike, I hope it was worth it.
One question remains now, is Marcus the GOOD brother now? Morons
By Bruce
August 20, 2007 3:42 PM | Link to this
Mike is probably going to spend a year in jail (missing 07 and 08 season). He then will be suspended for a MINIMUM for 1 year from the NFL (missing the 09 season). It is going to be really tough on him once he is available to play in the league again…if ever. Remember, he LIED directly to the NFL Commissioner, telling him that he had NOTHING to do with the dog-fighting operation. Time to move the franchise away from the Georgia Dome and somewhere out in Suburbs, closer to the new fan-base that Arthur Blank is going to have to build. The African-American community will probably stop supporting the team over what Mike did. Go figure!
By Hp
August 20, 2007 3:42 PM | Link to this
Yes. If Jamaal Lewis recovered from the human killing incident in Atlanta then there is no reason why Michael Vick should not be able to recover from a dog fighting incident. Since when have dogs’ lives been put above those of human beings? Hp
By Bob
August 20, 2007 3:42 PM | Link to this
Can Michael Vick redeem himself?
No.
Jesus may forgive him, but I ain’t Jesus
By Alexis
August 20, 2007 3:42 PM | Link to this
Once a low life thug, always a low life thug. There is no redemption except through God for the sins this immoral child of sin has committed. He has mamed, killed and otherwise harmed innocent creatures for profit and pleasure. He surely will burn in the fires of Hell for this unless God chooses to spare him through pennance; but there will be no redemption on Earth and certainly no redemption on the football field. I hope those who defended him and proclaimed his innocence take notice — he is NOT a hero, he is a petty thug given every chance to get himself out of that life and into a life of moral rightousness and he chose to stay with his wicked ways. He is not to be idolized but is to be pitited. May God have mercy on his soul.
By JaneDog
August 20, 2007 3:43 PM | Link to this
maybe the Arena League will need a quarterback
By Depends
August 20, 2007 3:44 PM | Link to this
If he is truly sorry and makes up for what he did, we all should forgive him. Anyone who believes in God knows that forgiving is what we are supposed to do. Maybe counseling as well to help with whatever in his head makes him think that was ok.
By Billy
August 20, 2007 3:44 PM | Link to this
How can someone responsible for something so vile redeem himself?
By yes he can
August 20, 2007 3:45 PM | Link to this
Yes, he can. I will not change the way I view Vick. It is not like those things was done to humans. I think he should donate money to PETA buy them however many pitbills they said he killed. Lose his so call friends and family. Move forward with his life doing positive things. There are people out there that has done worst and have moved on to be better and positive people.
By CC
August 20, 2007 3:46 PM | Link to this
Who cares? It’s just football. It’s not like he is that important to the future of this country or even this planet. All her does is play football. Not important.
By Chase
August 20, 2007 3:46 PM | Link to this
Once a thug, always a thug. I’m assuming this means his pathetic NFL “career” is over for good? My only hope is that he gets what’s coming to him in prison.
By Do'h!
August 20, 2007 3:47 PM | Link to this
Please make sure to remember this was and always will be about race. The Pitt Bull race that is….
By Big Rob
August 20, 2007 3:47 PM | Link to this
I sure hope so. It will be hard. With PETA and white people on him. It is gonna be hard.
By W Blicker
August 20, 2007 3:48 PM | Link to this
There is an essential element of humanity that is missing in someone who can kill animals the way Vick and his gang did. Unless he and his friends can regain that element of decency there can be no redemption in this life. Whether or not he can remains to be seen. What he has done to date is enough to banish him from the NFL. No one capable of this cruelty that is found out deserves to have any privilege.
By lah
August 20, 2007 3:48 PM | Link to this
I think he would need a little integrity before he would be able to redeem himself and he obviously has zero.
By Alicia
August 20, 2007 3:49 PM | Link to this
I DO NOT GIVE A DAMN about dogs over Vick. You will see that game time when you see empty seats. Thats is my opinion and I am sticking to it. I do not give a f**k. He will still play even after serving time. Sorry that disappoints you. I believe people make mistakes as I am sure you dumb azzes have. I don’t give a damn and there is nothing you can say.
MICHAEL VICK SUPPORTER
By doodiebuddy
August 20, 2007 3:50 PM | Link to this
I doubt it. This guy can’t do anything right. He’s got as much common sense as the dogs he killed.
Good riddance, dirtbag.
Diogenes had some good points but we all know Mike is not going to make any effort because he’s a lazy piece of trash. And who cares about the blackout…get NFL ticket and watch some good teams. (go BUCS!)
By Tina
August 20, 2007 3:50 PM | Link to this
I feel that Mike will one day be able to redeem himself, because he is a human being that made a mistake. And the first mistake he made was when he stayed in contact with the so called friends he had before he became famous. When you have certain things happen in yuour life that changes your status, like him signing with the Falcons, you have to let certain things go. And it is sad to say, but he should have let his friends go because as he can see, as soon as the police starting in on his so called buddies and family they started talking like a parakeet. Telling eveything. He will be lucky not to do alot of jail time. I feel he is really a good kid that let the fame and money go to this head, but he will be alright and will bounce back. I am pretty sure that he has learned a hard lesson about his life.
I wish him all the luck in the world, and I can’t wait to see him again on the field.
Signed, A Georgia Peach
By GaDawg
August 20, 2007 3:50 PM | Link to this
Vick is a thug, but what should we expect from the Black community where there are very few roll models and few Fathers. I feel sorry for the Black Familys who do their best to provide for their kids but who get lumped into the majority of women who think having kids out of wedlock is “cool”
By Andrea Herrera
August 20, 2007 3:51 PM | Link to this
He needs to have some therapy and do hands on community service…no fluffy stuff like commercials or galas. He needs to work with his local Humane Society or a rescue organization. I’m very sad to see this happen to the Atlanta Falcons and their faithfull fans, we had a lot riding on MV! Can he redeem himself? Of course. All publicity is good publicity.
By Rachelle
August 20, 2007 3:51 PM | Link to this
I dont understand the hate…The word “thug” is only a politically acceptable replacement word for the “N ” word. What is a thug? and who and what defines who one is? Michael Vick will be well because I dont believe he is filled with the hate that is being directed towards him from all of these “haters” who are just that because of who and what he is. I only see the term “thug” applied to the media activities and actions or high profile black men.
By JLM
August 20, 2007 3:52 PM | Link to this
Yes he can and yes he will.
By Andera
August 20, 2007 3:52 PM | Link to this
I certainly hope so. I will still support him.
By NASDAQ
August 20, 2007 3:53 PM | Link to this
Yes if he repents for what he has done, he will have his redemption in the eyes of God which is the only thing that really matters. As far as his football career, yes if he apologizes for his actions. Everyone deserves a second chance and someone will pick the guy up of Goddell lets him back into the league.
By doodiebudy
August 20, 2007 3:54 PM | Link to this
HP- no one said that dogs lives are above or more valuable than a human’s. Its the heinous nature of this crime that has everyone up in arms. It is truly disgusting. These are pre-meditated actions to torture and kill dogs for entertainment and money. Get with it, dude.
By Miss Kitty
August 20, 2007 3:54 PM | Link to this
According to his attorneys, “Michael wishes to apologize again to everyone who has been hurt by this matter.” How is he going to apologize to the helpless animals he brutalized and killed? There’s a special place in hell for barbarians such as him, and redemption is not a possibility.
By Animal Lover
August 20, 2007 3:54 PM | Link to this
Lying Thug should be put in a cell with hungry pit bulls. See if he can hold his own against them. He should be put away long enough that no one can mistakenly count him as a role model for anything. All those who said innocent until proven guilty should shut up now - he copped to it - story over.
By Brownthrasher
August 20, 2007 3:55 PM | Link to this
No one should smile on another man’s misfortune. I am sure that many of the Falcons are glad that Vick didn’t go to court because they surely would have been called in and had to admit that they too have been to a dogfight and probably bet on them. That’s why they have been so tight-lipped. But of course, Vick can redeem himself. As long as the media doesn’t carryon this crucifixion. You helped murder the man now see if you can ressurrect him. I hope he takes time to understand the lesson in all of this. I have already forgiven him and am ready to put this story to bed. Thanks for the excitement and I hope you come back to the NFL. If not, forgive yourself, and love in peace. You are not alone.
By Shawn
August 20, 2007 3:55 PM | Link to this
You guys that keep saying it’s no biggie because he didn’t kill a human being need to wake up. IT’S THE LAW! Kidnapping doesn’t result in death, neither does bank robbery, but they are LAWS that you have to live by. To do what he did to those dogs with the hanging, drowning, and electrocution shows nothing but a sociopath and I’m glad he’s going to go to prison and maybe get the help he needs.
By Adam Douglas
August 20, 2007 3:55 PM | Link to this
For Vick, to play both sides of the fence tells you how important football is to him. However, hopefully when he does serve his time, he will understand the severity of the crimes he committed. If he serves his time, he should be afforded the ability to apply for reinstatement to the league.
However, Vick being reinstated to the NFL will be dubious at best as he lied to both Goodell and Blank. In addition, his skills would be greatly diminished by being incarcerated. In my opinion, he played his last down.
Ironically, the dogs that he mistreated are now responsible for one of the greatest falls in NFL history. Michael Vick is a convicted felon. He will never play again in the NFL.
By todd
August 20, 2007 3:55 PM | Link to this
the folks in america are very forgiving and just like every other pro athlete or celebrity type he will be back…another NFL team will give him a chance or he will be a TV personality on some football TV show…the falcons are the ones who will suffer most , much more than Vick, he has set this franchise back ten years…
By ATTENTION: THINK ABOUT IT
August 20, 2007 3:57 PM | Link to this
Would you just let him off?
What an idiot you are.
By Sloan
August 20, 2007 3:57 PM | Link to this
Once again the race card gets played. For the love of G-d people. This man broke the law. He tortured and killed innocent living creatures. Doesn’t matter if they were dogs, people, cats, birds, or lizards. They are living creatures that were tortured and killed in incredibly brutal inhumane ways. You freaks that keep saying they are dogs and not people have the moral values of Vick and I can only blame that on your upbringing. Your parents should be ashamed of themselves for raising you with such low values of life. Those of you that keep playing the race card, I say up yours. Play it all you want. Protect your sick twisted brother because he is black. You are also the ones that probably cheered in jubilation when OJ was found not guilty of butchering two white people, one who was the mother of his two children. Those cheers from you were only because the black man got away with killing whitey. You are the same people that keep driving the wedge in between whites and blacks and then you blame whitey for race problems. This city/state/country is so infested with reverse racism and you racist African Americans keep blaming whitey for race problems. Look in the mirror. Vick is a thug and you should be ashamed of him for what he has done and stop blaming whitey for persecuting him. HE BROKE THE LAW and HE TORTURED AND KILLED INNOCENT LIVING CREATURES!
By Nan
August 20, 2007 3:57 PM | Link to this
Maybe - if he ever manages to grow up and take responsibility for his own actions.
BTW, anyone else wondering just how many other celebrities we’re going to see doing a perp walk related to dogfighting? Vick’s friends sold him out pretty fast… so who did Vick drop a dime on as part of his deal?
By chasity nicole
August 20, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this
Come on redeem himself from what and to whom…who made dog lovers GOD…Get a life people..There is poverty…there are illness…there are homeless people…don’t we have real problems to be concerned with..what have you gained from this..nothing…taking a youngs man life away from him…what a red neck society….
By Shawn
August 20, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this
All of you that think he should be free because he plays for your favorite team are pathetic. Would you be carrying the torch for him if he was a Green Bay Packer or a 49er? No! You’d be right there piling on him with everybody else. Get a grip!
By Vick Fan
August 20, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this
Michael Vick, with the right people around him and guidance, can and will recover from this. All of you people who would condemn a man to destitution for dog fighting should be ashamed of yourselves. If Vic was an average joe we wouldn’t even be discussing this. I don’t see people rallying around and protesting for the families of those who get mauled and killed by the same dogs Michael Vick is accused of killing.
By carolyn
August 20, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this
yes micheal vick will redeem himself.
By Larry
August 20, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this
Forgive him yes, if he repents. Reward him, by letting him play football, no.
By Greg
August 20, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this
I am so glad that none of the naysayers is God because throwing people out, talking about they cannot be redeemed is absurd. Yes, Vick should be punished for whatever part he played in this crime, but he CAN be redeemed. He has to ask for redemption. He has to work extremely hard to build trust again. Can it be done? Yes. Is it going to be difficult? Yes, but it can be done. We are so quick to judge other people and not allow them second chances. What if God was like that? (Or whatever you call your higher being) I’m pretty sure we have all made our mistakes that we regret. I just hope that Vick learns from his mistakes, complete his time, and move on with his life. Give the man another chance.
By Lloyd Dobler
August 20, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this
Not a chance.
By John Smith
August 20, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this
Where are the Vick defenders now?
By Terrible Fans
August 20, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this
Don’t come back.
For those of you who only supported the Falcons because the QB was black, Don’t come back to the dome. Don’t EVER come back. If you can only support the hometown team because of the color of the person under center, I never EVER want to see you supporting the team again. You are no better than the people in Philly who booed Randal Cunningham when he played for the Eagles because he wasn’t white. Keep your broke, fair weather butts at home. Quit calling 790 and complaining. Stay away and quit ruining the team I love
Don’t come back.
By Jack
August 20, 2007 3:59 PM | Link to this
ToThink about it——-blacks will remain 2nd class as long as they refuse to recognize right from wrong and see everything as black and white Being Black is no excuse and playing it like is is,only demeans you
By July Jones
August 20, 2007 3:59 PM | Link to this
Vick can redeem himself but a few things are not going to happen.
He will never play for the Falcons again.
He will not be the same quaterback he was before this came out.
This is just like Mike Tyson. Tyson was never the same fighter after prison as he was before. He completely lost his mystique and his edge.
Vick will never be the same quaterback after a prison term.
By Slapnuts
August 20, 2007 3:59 PM | Link to this
Vick will eventually find forgiveness if he follows some guidelines. 1) Apologize for his actions. 2) Proclaim he has found God. 3) Big donations to animal groups. 4) Have Jesse Jackson in his corner. Vick will never play for the Falcons. He will play for another team. Our society is very forgiving to those who admit fault.
By DARN WHITE FOLKS
August 20, 2007 3:59 PM | Link to this
Don’t White Folk know it’s too much to ask for a black man to be a good citizen and a roll model. What do they expect from us?
By bert
August 20, 2007 3:59 PM | Link to this
Vick can redeem himself, but he needs to tell the truth. He only accepted this plea, because he saw it would get him less jail time. He will never redeem himself in my eyes personally because he is a spoiled corward who has no regard for life. But… in the worlds eyes, he can. Time heals almost eveything.
By Brownthrasher
August 20, 2007 4:00 PM | Link to this
Only in America is a man’s llife worth nothing. A woman murders her husand and gets 64 days in prison. Now you want to throw the book at Vick. I will wear my Vick jersey but it won’t be to any Falcons games. I am appalled at how Arthur Blank and his teammates have responded. I’m with Alicia, Screw the Falcons and the NFl and Goodell and all of the Judas in this country.
By Zeek
August 20, 2007 4:00 PM | Link to this
If the Falcons let him go……..I will never support them again……
By Georgia Peach to the Bone.
August 20, 2007 4:02 PM | Link to this
The person that said ” they hope he gets what he deserves in prison” needs to shut up. You do not know what all the circumstances are behind him pleading guilty. If yoiu were in his shoes and your so called buddies turned states witness on you, you would have no other choice but to plead guilty too. All of yo “FAIR WEATHER FANS” need to think about the fact that at least with Vick playing we were able to get a couple Monday night games in. Where we were able to get some coverage, with no BLACK OUTS. Now we are back to where we started,” SORRY AZZ, WANT NOBODY COME & SEE, CAN’T GIVE A TICKET AWAY FALCONS”. Think about it, MIKE VICK was the FALCONS. I don’t care no ones says all of you know it, the falcons are nothing without VICK. Just look at there record the year he hurt his leg, they were the sorriest team in the NFL. Now they are really going to be sorry. At least that year people still came to see the games, now you will not be able to give a ticket away, because I know I would not want to come and see them.
A LOYAL MIKE VICK SUPPORTER.
By fatz
August 20, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this
we don’t need to forgive him. he needs to ask God Almighty to forgive him, and then he needs to forgive himself. and there is NO faking it when it comes to forgiving one’s self. THAT requires a change of heart, or else its just a bluff. and we can all sense a bluffer, just as we can all sense sincerity. we all screw up, every day. he can rise from this, but he won’t look exactly the way he thinks he will when its over. and he has to accept that and use if for good. he needs to reach out to the right people now- Warrick Dunn comes to mind..
By Eli
August 20, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this
What a waste of tremendous talent. Mike Vick has done countless good things on and off the field, but he will be most remembered for what he is at his core: a person who is capable of being entertained by watching dogs violently tear each other to pieces. Entertained by strangling, shooting and drowning dogs that fell beneath the killer standard he raised them achieve. If Mr. Vick wants to play football again (if he gets out of prison while still in his 30’s) he must do as others have already stated - take a position of open and honest responsibility for his actions and offer an apology for his actions. Even then, Mr. Vick will always be a man who likes to watch dogs die a violent death. What a waste.
By Sloan
August 20, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this
Hey RACHELLE. Since you obviously only have the black version of Websters Dictionary and what whitey means when he says certain words, let me give you the real definition of THUG: A cutthroat or ruffian; a hoodlum
It has absolutely nothing to do with the “N” word, but if you draw that conclusion, then that is your own racist views.
By Bob
August 20, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this
I knew this would turn into a race thing just like with OJ!
By Bruce
August 20, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this
To all the African-American and other Mike Vick fans: Why don’t you direct your anger and hostility toward Mike himself? He’s the one who self-imploded.
By Buh-bye, buh-bye
August 20, 2007 4:04 PM | Link to this
Race pandering idiots: the hillbillies in north Georgia and elsewhere also go to jail for ILLEGAL dogfighting and ILLEGAL gambling and ILLEGAL dog abuse and killing. It’s NOT about race already you mindless morons. ILLEGAL is ILLEGAL! Now GET OVER YOURSELVES!
By bert
August 20, 2007 4:04 PM | Link to this
By the way. I notice alot of posts in here discussing race. Why is this even a race issue? A grown male American citizen knowingly commited a felony and lied about it. Then when he saw he was about to get busted, he magically plead guilty. It not a race issue in my eyes, only an issue of a coward who does not respect life.
By Brownthrasher
August 20, 2007 4:04 PM | Link to this
Why would the AJC find a story about Vick getting a $50 seat belt citation so newsworthy? Because they have been in on the Get Rid fo Vick parade since he became the quarterback. Now that he has pleaded will you please find some real sports stories to write about? And who will your backstabbing Terrence Moore go after now?
By hoothoo of KC
August 20, 2007 4:04 PM | Link to this
First off, he who knows no sin cast the first stone. It is so easy to judge someone else but we all have fallen short. Maybe not in this area but in some area of our lives. So lets stop pointing the finger until we look at our own short commings. Vick if you read these comments I would like to say “yes! I’m dissappointed in the fact that you have been made to tell the truth.” But I support you still because you have a lot of people judging you when they couldn’t walk 2 feet in your shoes. I’m not saying that you should feel sorry for your life style growing up but I understand what you’ve been exposed to. I’ll continue to pray for you because I think that you have learned from this mistake and all you have to do is ask God for forgiveness and that’s all that matters. Forget what everyone else says we will all have are true day of judgement. So dust yourself off and keep your head up because you have a God given gift now just use it for his glory not your own. God Bless.
By Beck
August 20, 2007 4:04 PM | Link to this
You’d think he actually killed another human being (a la Rae Carruth)… but he was fighting dogs (or at least sponsoring this illegal endeavor). Either way, since the feds were about to “pile on” more charges.. he did the smart thing… take a plea… considering that the ones actually running the day-to-day operations have already worked theirs out and planned to blame it all on Mike. Yes, he’s an idiot. Yes, he should have distanced himself from his friends. But should he spend the rest of his life in jail?? Absolutely not. Child molesters spend less time in prison.
By ATLBoy
August 20, 2007 4:05 PM | Link to this
What choice did he have? Sorry to say this but in this F—-up world that we live in, it may have been better to drive drunk and kill a person, or simply kill a person, or rape an individual or better yet leave a entire city of people stranded for 3 to 4 days without food and water, than to be allegedly involved in dog fighting and harming of animals. Well all of you Vick haters have gotten your wish, he’s out of Atlanta and the Falcons will be no more than the Falcons that wore the red jerseys and played in Fulton County stadium. There goes the sell outs.
By TheTruthHurts
August 20, 2007 4:06 PM | Link to this
HELL NO!! Vick is a Lying Thug Murderer and will never be looked at as anything different…I hope he gets booted from the NFL he deserves all the bad things that happen to him…I dont remember hearing that Vick gave the dogs who lost a fight a second chance…so why should he get one?? What a punk!!!!
By melvin
August 20, 2007 4:07 PM | Link to this
With a little time in the pen, he can work on his game against some good athletes on the prison team, develop some new moves and come out better than ever, ready to make more millions! The Raiders will sign him—they like the gangsta playa baby!!!!
By Taylor Made It
August 20, 2007 4:08 PM | Link to this
Anything is Possible…….Anything
By Gwen
August 20, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this
YES!!
By Hillbilly
August 20, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this
Yes, yes. Mike and his pals were just poor misguided youth, from disadvantaged backgrounds. I am certain they will be shining success stories, to show others how to pull yourself up from the depths and become a viable and valuable member of society. Give them time, give them yet another chance, i’ll be watching him to be sure he stays on the straight and narrow!
-Santa Claus
By Sunshyne
August 20, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this
I really do not understand the comments of some that make it seem as Michael Vick did something to a human being, raped a woman, killed a man, molested a child, got drunk and killed someone… He should be given another chance sooner than later!
I guess no one noticed that Arthur Blank and Rich McKay had just come from an African Safari… ISN’T THAT HUNTING AND KILLING ANIMALS?? What’s the difference? Oh, I forgot hunting where human beings go out with a dog trained to kill and hunt for the animals… then once the animal is found, the human kills the animal by shooting in the head, hanging with traps and or drowning to take the rest of the life out of the animal… The person with the biggest and best animal wins the prize… GAMBLING…
Oh, that’s a RICH MAN’s SPORT, not considered a crime…
By Nisha
August 20, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this
He can redeem himself in the eyes of his family and GOD. He doesn’t owe his fans anything but a good game. For all of you who say he should be banned from football, What does Dog Fighting Have To Do With Football. When he serve his time the slate should be wiped clean. Remember he is very talanted. If he is banned from football he can play MLB.
By Merriam-Webster
August 20, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this
thug - a brutal ruffian or assassin: GANGSTER, KILLER
Well Rachelle, if the definition fits…
oh, in case you were wondering,
ruffian - a brutal person
By Nickie
August 20, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this
He has squandered a remarkable talent that earned him nearly unlimited opportunities and a hugh salary. He appeared early on to be a perfect role model to young men trying to rise above a tough early life. I am an animal lover and what he personnally did to some is unspeakable but even more important is his complete abdication of the opportunity to show young people in tought circumstances that they can rise above it and be a contributing force for good in their community. That is unforgivable.
By steveO
August 20, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this
“if it looks like one, sounds like one it must be one” vick is a thug with money. This would make sicko vick a super thug. Hey Vick, “Go quiely into the night”
By ISIDIGO
August 20, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this
I am african american and I am partial to the whole thing. Yes i think he is guilty but i hate this black is wrong white is right thing. Yes he didn’t kill a human but he did kill a living thing that relied on him for survial. He is high profile so anything he does is high profile. He is a dumb Human regardless of Race. Why set up a illegal operation in a state where it is a felony. I dont’ condone dogfighting but he would have been better off setting up shop in GA where the law on everyone is one big Joke. SO to me he is not being procecuted cause of what he did he it is cause he is STUPID. Life most african americans in Atlanta from Atlanta I grew up in a Majority black area in the suburbs. Early on my parents taugh me that if you there are some friends you carry with you through out life and there are some because of their demeanor and mentality that you just have to let go. Michael Vick and his brother seem to not have learned that lesson.
By rarringt
August 20, 2007 4:10 PM | Link to this
First,
It’s not like the President’s been impeached. Although a very talented athlete, Vick made a lot of money playing a game. A children’s game at that, albeit at a higher level.
He’s not a role model. No athlete is, at least not solely on the basis of their athleticism.
What he’s pleading guilty to was barbaric, but let’s keep in mind not particular to any race or ethnic group, as many have been alluding to. Vick is black, but most attendees at these functions are not (I’ll give you three guesses as to their race, but imagine you’ll only need one).
Finally, let me restate football is only a game. It’s not some funky metaphor for life, and not something you should devote yours to.
Get over it. Get over him, and you’ll be much better for it. Really.
By NATIVE
August 20, 2007 4:10 PM | Link to this
Certainly, if the “barbie bandits” can get jobs after robbing a bank and GW Bush can still be in the White House after sending soldiers to be killed, why can’t Mike Vick be redeemed? On another note, I always thought it strange that ESPN(media) can show footage of dog fights(not Vick’s dogs, mind you)to sway emotion, yet the same media is told by the government not to show photos of actual soldiers getting blown up in combat! Where would nightly conversation be if that were allowed?
By Cassy
August 20, 2007 4:10 PM | Link to this
He certainly can. Every last one of us can redeem ourselves after making mistakes in life. What he has done will not seem so bad once someone else does something worse than he has and it makes the headlines.
By b
August 20, 2007 4:10 PM | Link to this
NO….that plus being a va tech alumni makes his days numbered….
By Vick Supporter
August 20, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this
As all the white people know, I still support Mike Vick, because he’s still a brother to all of us African-Americans. We don’t turn on our own. We still love him. He plead guilty and he should pay his debt to society. Do I think he can redeem himself? With the help of GOD, YES! Anything is possible with HIM. America, or should I say GOD gives people second chances all the time. We know 95% of whites will condemn him, they get joy out of this somehow. We as African-Americans are very saddened that this happened. He needs to hold a press conference and just let it all out. We’re with you Mike Vick.
By Peggy
August 20, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this
I certainly don’t forgive him. Not only did he “do the deed”, he lied about it. What kind of example is this for young people? Not a very good one. I think the Atlanta Falcons would be doing a disservice to not only the other Falcon team members, but to the city of Atlanta as well.
By andre thompson
August 20, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this
yes he will rebound from this and move on with his life. only if he cuts ties with the bad seeds in his life.
By RBM
August 20, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this
Banned for life from the NFL…. Last week the statement was “I look forward to clearing my good name. The Falcons will wait for the NFL to suspend him before they let him go..this way they can go after his 22 million signing bonus. I guess Nike is real proud now.
By Gwen
August 20, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this
You have to forgive to be forgiven.
By PinkSherbert
August 20, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this
Yes…people deserve second chases. Those who cheat, gamble, etc.
But to kill and torture a defenseless animal?? Never…
The only thing Michael Vick will be known as is a convicted felon. What a terrible waste of talent.
By Rick
August 20, 2007 4:13 PM | Link to this
It really doesn’t matter that much. There are some that will forever view Vick as a low-life “thug” who squandered an amazing talent. There will be others that will forever see Vick as a black man persecuted by a white, racist society. There will be very few people in between.
By U dumb arses
August 20, 2007 4:13 PM | Link to this
Vick is in trouble with the feds over the illegal gambling operation he ran more so than the dog fighting. The dog fighting is bringing in the public outcry and the state of Virginia, but not the feds. So before everyone tries to create another race war over this, read the articles and get your facts straight. Vick F’ed up and lied about it to everyone including YOU. Besides, the Falcons were garbage with him and now they’ll be even worse without him. Hey Rich and Arthur, way to go on getting rid of Schaub.
By Plain Truth
August 20, 2007 4:13 PM | Link to this
Can Michael Vick redeem himself?
In a word: no.
There is no cure for Vick’s problem.
He would have already been serving time for something else if it had not been for VT football and the Falcons’ money.
He will be back behind bars for something else within 5 years of the time he finishes his sentence.
By Georgia Peach to the Bone.
August 20, 2007 4:13 PM | Link to this
To: GaDawg, How can you make such a racist remark. All people in the Black Community try to do everything they can to raise their children, and believe it or not there are women in the Black community that have husbands and are dong well for themselves. You can make it seem that all black peolpe are like Vick, true he made a mistake and he needs to do whatever he can to fix it. But for you to say that the black community thinks that having babies out wedlock is cool is completly wrong and prejudice. You don’t know for sure if your parents were married when you were born, you just know what they told you. So, before you start picking bones out of someone else’s closet, you need to make sure you don’t trip over your bones. YOU NEED TO CHECK YOURS OUT FIRST.
You really need to think about the things that you say…… IGNORANT AS HELL , THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE.!!!!!1
By Jojo
August 20, 2007 4:13 PM | Link to this
I am so tired of comments about the entire black community whenever someone who happens to be black gets in trouble. Why is this not applied to a white person who gets in trouble? I am acquainted with many black families with two parents and professional careers. The few single parents that I know stem from divorce and a death of the spouse. No different than the white families that I know. Why does everyone think they’re an expert in the lives of strangers by virtue of their skin color?
By NYgal
August 20, 2007 4:13 PM | Link to this
Vick is a dumbass. I work so hard everyday to pay my bills and raise my child on a pittance. And here he is being paid MILLIONS to play a game! And he blows it all to torture animals. Vick kept making one bad decision after another because of his arrogance. He refused to humble himself and believe that he could lose it all. A little humility and gratitude for his good fortune would have gone a long way in preventing the stupidity that he is embroiled in now. Michael Vick is an embarrassment to the black community. And to all the black radio stations, please stop asking us to “stand behind a brother.” My brothers work hard every day, make wise decisions and take responsibility for their mistakes.
By to alicia
August 20, 2007 4:13 PM | Link to this
your a moron! and rachelle thug is used to decribe thugish behavior it not white people fault that our athletes dont get in trouble as much as blacks do. there are plenty of thugish white people they just rarly are any good at sports.
By Akagi
August 20, 2007 4:14 PM | Link to this
Right Jimmy, and OJ was framed too and the real killers are lurking on the Florida links that OJ keeps showing up on.
As for Vick being redeemed? Well unless the NFL bans him, expect to see him again if some team is willing to take a chance—Oakland and the Ravens seem very fond about taking on other people’s problems.
If Vick can lead a team to wins those fans won’t really care about the past. Winning has a way of making people forget very easily. But he is done in Atlanta and you can forget any endorsement deals no matter how much he says he is sorry.
People aren’t going to have dog killers as pitching their product.
By bushwacker
August 20, 2007 4:14 PM | Link to this
Blank has a chance now to get some fans back by cutting him IMMEDIATELY and FIRING Rich McKay for being the only person on earth who did not see something else coming.
By Mark
August 20, 2007 4:14 PM | Link to this
Like Dave Chappelle said, this is a perfect example of “WHEN KEEPIN’ IT REAL GOES WRONG!!”
After about 18 months he will be forgotten like Rae Carruth.
Dummy
By jinetta
August 20, 2007 4:14 PM | Link to this
I FEEL SORRY FOR MIKE HE MADE MISTAKE GET A LIFE PEOPLE NOBODY IS PERFECT. MIKE PRAY AND MY GOD AND YOUR GOD WILL SEE YOU THROUGH!
By Soco
August 20, 2007 4:14 PM | Link to this
Yes he can. Wouldn’t you?
Dogs are killed everyday at the horse track when they can no longer perform. People go and bet on them also.
Are you upset because he did it or you could not bet on it?
By TheTruthHurts
August 20, 2007 4:14 PM | Link to this
It amazes me how stupid people are like the idiots on this blog that rant on and one that its a set up and vick was framed by white america….Dont these stupid people realize the reason they are such a failure in life is because they refuse to take responsibility for what happens tio them in life? I guess they will continue to work at Mcdonalds drive through for the rest of their life and blame all their failures on the white man keeping them down!!! LOSERS!!!!!!!!! LOL
By Vick Fan is RIGHT
August 20, 2007 4:15 PM | Link to this
Hey Vick Fan - you are RIGHT! If Vick was an average joe his a$$ would already be sitting in a jail cell. Good grief you are stupid…
By Bubba
August 20, 2007 4:15 PM | Link to this
Hi Y’all! I don’t think Mike will be redeemed in the ATL. I don’t think he will be with the Falcons very shortly. I think that Arthur has seen and heard enough that the ties will be cut, swiftly and severely. I think Goodell will deal with him as does Blank. Somewhere around 2009 or 2010, he might get a chance, but with who and where will be the big issues. Say goodbye to the Big A, Michael…
By Magneto
August 20, 2007 4:15 PM | Link to this
Brownthrasher and Zeek,
You are as stupid as Vick is. This team bent over backwards to keep Vick. Blank has shown support for his QB throughout the entire time he was here, even during injury. Vick admitted his guilt, that’s who you should be upset with dumba$$!
By Dawgs2007
August 20, 2007 4:15 PM | Link to this
The judge is going to rain down upon him with a vengence. He does not have any friends and his money cannot buy this judge.
This judge was appointed my George W. Bush and he means business.
By Big Pudge
August 20, 2007 4:15 PM | Link to this
I gotta agree with Morris…..By morris
August 20, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this
the man didnt kill a human…regardless if how terrible the killing of dogs are…but let keep it in perspective,,,,he didnt kill a person…this get more attention then the 3 students killing exucution-style shooting in new jersey…how sad is that!…..I it was sad but it was a DOG.
By Bird Backer
August 20, 2007 4:16 PM | Link to this
Zeek - do you still not get it? He is pleading guilty to felony charges. The Falcons will really have no choice. You are a Vick fan not a Falcon fan - so who cares.
By Rawhide
August 20, 2007 4:16 PM | Link to this
He can find redemption with Jesus Christ, however, if Jesus isn’t the GM of an NFL franchise then his playing career is toast.
By George
August 20, 2007 4:17 PM | Link to this
Yes. Americans believe in redeption. He needs to be humble, honest and accept responsibility. If he does, people will accept that he was punished for something he admited to and they will move on.
By Ryno
August 20, 2007 4:17 PM | Link to this
Redeem himself?
I’d be more impressed if Vick completed more than 47% of his passes. Wow, the Birds lost an average quarterback, big deal. We were 7-9 last year…That stinks, I don’t want to stay that way.
This will make the Falcons better. 2 good drafts in a row and the Falcons will be back in the playoffs.
The guy who said that blacks should stay away from the dome if they were only coming because the QB was black was 100% right.
By Andy
August 20, 2007 4:17 PM | Link to this
No he can’t and these media reports calling this White Monday sure aren’t going to help his cause.
Even if he plays again he’ll never get another lucrative sponsorship deal (or any sponsorship for that matter) then couple that with back-up quarterback pay and there’s not much money left over after taxes, attorneys, agent and handlers.
Stick a fork in Vick because he’s done!
By Rain
August 20, 2007 4:17 PM | Link to this
Redeem himself? What a stupid question.
I just hope that his sentence not only includes a hefty jail time, and an NFL lifetime ban, but he should be made to pay the Humane Societies in each state $1MM each to help with spay and neuter programs. That’s a lot of money, but he has a lot of money. We can’t go back and save those poor dogs lives, but we can save many, many, more and keep others from abusing them the way Mike did. Mike should be used for the greater good. Let’s turn around his evilness and make him do something good. Don’t wait for him to “redeem” himself. Use him as an example for others. Arthur Blank is probably embarassed, disgusted, and mad at himself for putting so much faith in Mike and letting the world see it. Most owners are in the owners box strategically surveying the game. Arthur was pushing Mike’s wheelchair when he broke his leg. That was embarrasing enough to see. Let’s hope Arthur has learned something as well and will be a much better owner.
By babyphat
August 20, 2007 4:18 PM | Link to this
if you are not without sin cast the first stone…its ashame that an animal has more rights than a human being….lets not forget black america..we do not have a law passed to vote…only an amendment..we were put on blocks to be sold,tortured, and dehumanized…by the very ones that comment on this blogs forefathers…we comment about the killings of dogs (animals) but there are animals that are raised to die..what about those? where is justice for them…pit bulls are NOT family dogs they are fighting dogs..they were brought over seas by white america strictly for fighting..but when black america got involved it became a problem..what happens to greyhounds when they no longer perform well? what about racing horses? hmm makes you think? Michael Vick became a threat to White America time he stepped onto the field. He will Redeem himself!
By vicksburg
August 20, 2007 4:18 PM | Link to this
He should have apologized when he was 1st accused of the crime…instead of lying….etc.
By Angela
August 20, 2007 4:18 PM | Link to this
This is about race no matter how we put it. White folks can shoot ducks all day, but when you fight pit bull aganist pit bull it is a crime. Where is the outrage when we are shooting ducks for the fun of it.
By bushwacker
August 20, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this
HE WILL NEVER PLAY AGAIN and anyone who thinks he will is dumber than he is!!!
By Joe Don Baker
August 20, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this
Pipe down Rachelle, the term seems to be directed to this particular group because this group has used it to define itself on NUMEROUS occasions. Ever listen to hip hop? “Gimme som of that Thu-uh-uhg passion” The guy who wrote that was a self-proclaimed thug — just check that big tatt on his stomach in case you have any doubts.
Dogfighting is thuggish behavior.
By Animalist
August 20, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this
I agree with several readers that his career ought to be over. As for his cruel treatment of animals, (and I feel that the word “cruel” is an understatement), Mr. Vick must be treated fairly and punished like many others guilty of such crimes. These punishments include all of the following: prison time, psychiatric evaluation, counseling, community service, severe fines (with the $ going to animal shelters), and a sincere public apology. The apology is for those of us (and we’re an ever-increasing number) in America who do not make distinctions between species in terms of suffering. All cruelty is bad, toward human and non-human animals alike. Intolerance toward animal cruelty is growing. We have changed. Mike Vick and the others MUST be punished, and then educated. Perhaps you as well, dear reader.
By Allen
August 20, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this
No apology in the world will overcome the violent death of 8 dogs, the GAMBLING, the running of a criminal enterprise, or the lies he’s told to everyone.
He’s going to jail for probably 24 months or longer, and it’s not enough.
Remember a few days ago, when Arthur Blank said the Falcons would act decisively in the event of a plea? Watch my words: the Falcons will cut him and go to court to get a prorated portion of their signing bonus back.
And they will win. He’ll not only be in jaily, he’ll be broke…and he deserves worse than that.
By Ed
August 20, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this
Vick is down for the full count. His career is at an end. Sadly, he is one among many young black people who misunderstand the legacy of the civil rights movement. It did not confer upon them the right to thumb their noses at the law. What they overlook is the fact that the movement came about as a tool of enforcing unjust laws that had been overturned by the Supreme Court. Disobey the law and you’ll be keeping company with Vick behind bars.
By bustaHustler
August 20, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this
redemption…it going to be tough well, Michael Vick is going to get what he deserves for breaking the law, dog fighting is a crime and killing dogs is a hateful and very cruel thing… But let me put this in perspective though…killing dogs is criminal ok but what about killing AN INNOCENT BLACK MAN IN NY…its ALRIGHT IF A POLICE OFFICER PUMPS 50 BULLETS AND KILLS AN INNOCENT BLACK MAN ON THE EVE OF HIS WEDDING DAY… naaah its not that bad and especially if you are a white police officer…all you are going to get is a few days suspension…man GOD BLESS THE LAW… and the people…naah they are not gonna make big deal out of it…its alright AFTER ALL A BLACK MAN DIED…for CHRIST’S SAKE IT WASN’T A DOG, IT WAS JUST A BLACK MAN
By Kathi
August 20, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this
Can Vick undo the pain he caused those dogs? No, he can never truly redeem himself. But if he regrets what he has done and not just getting caught at it, he could make a large donation toward pit bull rescue and dogfighting investigations.
By Taylor Made
August 20, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this
I don’t know what is wrong with many of you who think just because Vick was “black” we automatically supported him. That is pure Bull and you should really think about your comments before you make one. This is truly sad that “You People” still pull the race card. Let it rest! Go kick rocks or do us all a favor and lose yourself.
By Roof
August 20, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this
So do the Falcons get any cap relief at all? It’s far too late to do anything about Michael Vick’s situation, but having some room to sign a talented QB as a replacement or as a quality backup would be nice, especially now that Shockley has gone down for the year.
I don’t condone any illegal act that Vick committed, but it’s time to look forward, rather than express a desire for vengeance. Is anyone familiar enough with NFL cap rules to say what the financial consequences of Vick’s likely NFL suspension will be for the Falcons?
By Gwen
August 20, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this
white folk use to put dogs on black folk. where was peta then?
By Chereese
August 20, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this
WWJD? He would forgive Michael Vick. So those who claim to walking in christ, need to ask to yourselves are you acting christ like. Yes he can be forgiving.
By Zeek
August 20, 2007 4:20 PM | Link to this
Jack,
I don’t know what you think…….but African Americans are not 2nd class now! That was a very racist statement.
I am trying to be good on this thread…….i haven’t yet mentioned the kidnappings, murders and rapes that our founding fathers did to black people in the past…….Who paid for those crimes……….NOBODY! We can’t even an apology for slavery, so MV………..do your time and keep your head up!
By mike
August 20, 2007 4:20 PM | Link to this
GADAWG,
I have to disagree with your opinion that Blacks have no roll models. There have been plenty. One needs to look no farther then Tiger Woods here is a man that show class and intelligence and is ignored by the black community because he isn’t a thug wannabe gangster. The roles models are out there but in the black community it’s better to be looked as a tough guy then a smart guy. One doesn’t need to look any farther then the Vick supporters on these blogs to see that the black community continually struggles with trying to figure out the difference between right and wrong.
By LaLaMeeka Chadwalli
August 20, 2007 4:20 PM | Link to this
Is it just me, or does anyone else find this entire episode very, very funny? You just can’t make this stuff up. Who, in their right mind, would risk a very profitable career just to have a few bets on whether your dog can kill another dog. This just cracks me up!
By Jean
August 20, 2007 4:20 PM | Link to this
Michael has already redeemed himself to the LORD. This plea is an atonement. As for as being redeemed by the people, it doesn’t matter to me. Our father loves him no matter what and he has been forgiven. I hope that the FALCONS understand people make mistakes. For those of you who wants to spend your money somewhere else, go right ahead. I prefer not to see you at the DOME anyway. Like you’re perfect, please.
By Ann
August 20, 2007 4:20 PM | Link to this
To GADawg… so white people aren’t having babies out of wedlock? Really? Matt Leinart, Tom Brady, Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt; Goldie Hawn and Kurt Russell; Madonna; Gwyneth Paltrow (oldest child born before married Chris Martin; Elizabeth Hurley; Heidi Klum—ALL WHITE!!! So, please get off your moral high horse….. there’s just as much dysfunction in the white community as with any other. You just get divorced and re-married multiple times… but I guess that’s more stable… get clue, Sherlock.
By vicksburg
August 20, 2007 4:21 PM | Link to this
If we can forgive Imus….and the American public for voting Bush in…than I say Mike has a chance in Oakland….
By Becky
August 20, 2007 4:21 PM | Link to this
This isn’t about redemption. This is about lying, covering up the truth and trying to beat the system that the rest of us “mere mortals” have to adhere to. Because of his “superhero” status, he thought he was above the law. I’m over all the hype of Hollywood DUI’s,drug use,Wrestling Steroid Users and all other professional athletes that think they are better than everyone and deserve special treatment.
By martin
August 20, 2007 4:21 PM | Link to this
Hey Jimmy,
How can this be a set-up if the thug just admitted his guilt. Is he setting himself up? You’re an idiot!
By Jim Andrews
August 20, 2007 4:21 PM | Link to this
Can he be forgiven? The answer is yes.
But as a country we need to think about the culture that drives multi-millionaires who chase street credibility more than anything else in life.
You’ve got P-Diddy carrying guns into clubs, recording artists dressing like drug dealers, and now Mike Vick. Vick didn’t invent this ghetto fabulous culture, he simply followed it.
Being a millionaire wasn’t enough. Vick needed street respect in order to feel good about himself. How sad is that.
If hundreds of millions of dollars can’t lift a person above street drama like guns and dog fighting, then what hope do normal young black males have?
Most people want to earn millions to escape all the street drama. Instead, these guys want the millions so that they can be the biggest thug or pimp they can be.
By Annette LeBlanc
August 20, 2007 4:21 PM | Link to this
How can a person redeem himself after such cruelty to animals. What he did is unforgivable. Hopefully, if something good can come out of this, it would be the exposure of such a sub-human form of entertainment that shows a total lack of care or compassion for these innocent animals. For those who dismiss this by saying at least he didn’t do it to humans, keep in mind that most of our serial killers started with cruelty to animals.
By Becky
August 20, 2007 4:22 PM | Link to this
This isn’t about redemption. This is about lying, covering up the truth and trying to beat the system that the rest of us “mere mortals” have to adhere to. Because of his “superhero” status, he thought he was above the law. I’m over all the hype of Hollywood DUI’s,drug use,Wrestling Steroid Users and all other professional athletes that think they are better than everyone and deserve special treatment.
By Joe
August 20, 2007 4:22 PM | Link to this
Sure he can redeem himself. But it might not be on a football field. He lied to Goodell and in the end, that will prove to be a costly, and perhaps his biggest error in judgement. Goodell means business and MV will pay a serious price for his dishonesty. Sad as it is, I believe we have seen the last of MV on a football field. Great, great talent, just a bit too cocky for his own good at times. And surrounded himself with losers. I honestly believe, after knowing all that is at stake for him personally (prison time, suspension, end of career, endorsements), he would not plead guilty if he in fact wasn’t. His lawyers would see to that.
By Sylvia R. Williams
August 20, 2007 4:23 PM | Link to this
Michael Vick did not kill a human being, so why are we acting like he did. Michael Vick made a mistake. Why can’t we forgive him. you all that are calling for something harsh to happen to him,let him pay for what he did, and give him another chance, thats what christians do.
By Joanne
August 20, 2007 4:23 PM | Link to this
Mr. Vick said he apologizes to those who were hurt by his actions…how does he intend to apologize to the dogs he killed? He must learn how to value the sanctity of all life and then put that into practice on a daily basis. Contemplating a football career is, considering the scope of his crimes, seems absurd.
By Sanaai
August 20, 2007 4:23 PM | Link to this
We would like to think that $$$$ makes us ‘different’; well, we see/hear too often that it does not. I’m from the North and I can remember folks talkin’ ‘bout dogfighting in the South; I thought that is what folks down here did; Perhaps Mike grew-up around dogfighting/?!!! He’s is young, why not help him to grow to be a better man and understanding all of life/living is precious??!!! Why must we stone him??? We’ve all done something very wrong during life or we will DO something very wrong.. that the ‘world’ won’t know about Let him get a pass (probation) and work with animals (dogs/cats) for a lengthy period and we will set a model for other young, old, men/women to love all a bit more. Then we all gain…
By GeezGuys
August 20, 2007 4:23 PM | Link to this
Nope. He only has a small group of racist supporters who can spit out their little talking points: He didn’t kill a human (so? How lame is that excuse?), rednecks didn’t like a black QB(who just happens to be a black man who is a thug), he made a mistake (like he lost his car keys.)
Attention Vick Jockstrap Carriers: he was involved in gambling. That’s a kiss of death for pro sports. And if he ever was to be allowed to play again (fat chance!) he’d be met with protestors and taunting fans everywhere. You think Mr. Double Bird could control himself? Not a freakin’ chance. He’s got the maturity of a baked potato.
He’s gone. Back to Thugville, baby! Adios Mike, take some of your drones with you!
By Dirk6161
August 20, 2007 4:23 PM | Link to this
Zeek, You’re an idiot. I hope you never come back to a Falcons game,EVER! If you can defend this THUG who tortured innocent dogs (man’s best friend) then you are no better than MV7. Take some responsibility for a change.I am sure you will play the race card and blame everything on whitey just like OJ did…….
By kingfish
August 20, 2007 4:23 PM | Link to this
MV, I don’t know if you read the comments on this blog but I suspect that you do. I would say it would be worth it to listen to what Hollywood Henderson had to say on CNN/ESPN late last week. He made some big mistakes over 20 years ago and he served some time and turned his life around. You have the same chance that he did; the Lord has given you another chance to set everything right. Serve your time, be serious about changing your course for the better and do some things that would help the people or the organizations that you have wronged. You will come out of it, even though scarred, you can come back. Tell the truth, walk in the light and use the bad things that have happened for good. The only person who can pass judgement on you is the person who has never done anything wrong. The Law is the only judge (on this earth) and when it speaks, you have to abide by what they say. Get in touch with Hollywood Henderson and hear what he has to say.
By Johnny FALCON
August 20, 2007 4:24 PM | Link to this
Sure…as a private citizen. NFL is in his past now. No one will take on that media maelstrom. He’ll be suspended for at least 4 years.
Redemption would be there if he truly repented and came out publically against dog fighting, lying, stabbing your owner and team mates in the back…
GO JOEY!!!!!
By Real Falcon Fan
August 20, 2007 4:24 PM | Link to this
GOOD BYE VICK.. AND GOOD BYE THUG FANS THAT FOLLOWED HIM.
Mark my words, the real falcon fans of old will support this NEW team. I have been taking with HUNDREDS of fans that will make a point to show up to the games and support our NEW, LAW FOLLOWING fans. Believe me.. even if ALL 50% of the current dome fans leave.. they will be replaced.
By Paul C.
August 20, 2007 4:24 PM | Link to this
To all the Vick supporters..Mike has a message for you. He said to tell you that he is GUILTY…GUILTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By bustaHustler
August 20, 2007 4:24 PM | Link to this
well, Michael Vick is going to get what he deserves for breaking the law, dog fighting is a crime and killing dogs is a hateful and very cruel thing… But let me put this in perspective though…killing dogs is criminal ok but what about killing AN INNOCENT BLACK MAN IN NY…its ALRIGHT IF A POLICE OFFICER PUMPS 50 BULLETS AND KILLS AN INNOCENT BLACK MAN ON THE EVE OF HIS WEDDING DAY… naaah its not that bad and especially if you are a white police officer…all you are going to get is a few days suspension…man GOD BLESS THE LAW… and the people…naah they are not gonna make big deal out of it…its alright AFTER ALL A BLACK MAN DIED…for CHRIST’S SAKE IT WASN’T A DOG, JUST A BLACK MAN
By Rhett
August 20, 2007 4:24 PM | Link to this
Setup! Framed! Fall guy! Conspiracy!
Horse hockey!
Vick played the fool. Let down his team, coaches and an owner who adored him, tried to mentor him and gave the man an un-freakin’- believeable contract! He chose his ghetto homies to a man who tried to mentor him in how to become a successful human being.
He flushed a winning $130 million dollar lotto ticket down the toilet.
I feel sorry for what Vick did to those who trusted him. As far as he is personally concerned, “frankly, my dear, I don’t give a damn!”
By Nancy Bush
August 20, 2007 4:24 PM | Link to this
It seems to me that he’s still in denial about what he did—and doesn’t seem to have a clue that it was wrong. He had every chance to do the right thing—and now will be just one more black male wearing a prison suit.
By NASDAQ
August 20, 2007 4:25 PM | Link to this
Do you guys find it strange that those sick people on dateline that are caught going to a house to have sex with 13 and 14 year old girls, wont even serve a fraction of the time that Vick will do for sponsoring a dogfighting venture? Vick is wrong for his involvement in this, but what a sick/twisted justice system we have.
By Magneto
August 20, 2007 4:25 PM | Link to this
rarringt,
The color of most attendees is not relevant to this situation. Vick is the one who was financially responsible for the existence that particular operation in Virginia and he is black.
Stop searching for ways to scapegoat the issue.
By MAC
August 20, 2007 4:25 PM | Link to this
thug -n A cutthroat or ruffian; a hoodlum
By ED
August 20, 2007 4:25 PM | Link to this
If Ray Lewis could redeem himself, why can’t Vick?
By SD
August 20, 2007 4:25 PM | Link to this
Yes he will redeem himself. Only God can judge us. All the red necks honkies are probably someone whistling dixie right now because you all (white people) always hated Mike Vick from the beginning because a white man (Arthur Blank) gave a black man 130 million dollars and you all (white people) were sick about that!!!! Mike will come back and I hope all his haters eat his dust when he go to a new team!
By randall c
August 20, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this
As a Repulican in California, I am surprised at the rage people are venting on Vick. He committed a crime. He will be punished for it. I would expect that everyone would be hoping he gets his life turned around after that, with or without football. He is still a young man. Isn’t that what we believe in this country?
By Stan
August 20, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this
Please understand this goes much further than dogfighting. He was apart of a multistate gambling ring, money laudering and racketeering
By reese
August 20, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this
Michael Vick’s redemption will depend on the contents of his guilty plea. If his statement of facts includes personally killing dogs in the manner previously described, he’s done! The American public simply can’t relate to dog fighting, animal abuse, and animal cruelty.
Society forgave Darryl Strawberry, Rob Lowe, Lawrence Taylor, and MaryKate Olsen for their transgressions. Eventually, we’ll even forgive Li-Lo. Because, believe it or not, finer people in society have become hooked on drugs and alcohol. America can relate to their story of suffering and repeatedly forgives them.
Dogfighting, on the other hand, is an unforgivable sin. It’s a practice that’s perpuated in the shadows by the lowest rung of society. The broader public will never be able to relate to Michael Vick’s involvement—particularly if he admits to personally executing dogs. He’ll never be able to shake it. In the eyes of the media and public, he will always be a dog killer.
Even in the Black community, Michael Vick won’t get a free pass to forgiveness. After supporting him through all of the foolishness that surrounded his tenure with the Falcons and throughout his initial denials about his involvement in this case, his plea is a giant slap in the face.
Michael Vick needs emulate Martha Stewart and go to prison, serve his time as a model prisoner, and upon release get right back to the business of playing football. He’ll have to start in the Areana League, come through the CFL, and beg for a shot in the NFL. Unfortunately, if he’s ever able to make it back to that grand stage, he’ll still be reviled as a dog killer!
By jeff
August 20, 2007 4:27 PM | Link to this
Vick is a THUG
By Sheesh
August 20, 2007 4:27 PM | Link to this
Why is OJ always being brought up and what does Vick have to do with him?!! Get over it already!
By Rob
August 20, 2007 4:27 PM | Link to this
why should anyone care , he is only doing this because all the ex-friends,cw’s ,mountains of evidence the feds surely have, have him backed in the corner with no other way to turn .when will you people get it? he’s not remorseful about what he did just that he got caught.now just watch how he acts to all of us he has been lying to.
By John King
August 20, 2007 4:27 PM | Link to this
The Falcons suck and will always suck! Go Dallas Cowboys. Support America’s team
By Appfan
August 20, 2007 4:28 PM | Link to this
Mike Tyson, errr, Mike Vick is DONE.
By Mike Bryant
August 20, 2007 4:29 PM | Link to this
No….there IS no redemption from this. He’s finished as an NFL player. He wasn’t exactly a proven talent anyway. If he had led the Falcons to the promised land…like Peyton Manning, like Tom Brady or if he had just simply get them to the big game, like Steve McNair, or even that other Falcons loser, Chris Chandler, he might have had a shot. I hate the Falcons, so I personally don’ care what happens to Vick or if the Falcons are actually successful. What DOES bother me is that everyone is so outarged. All Vick did was drown a few pit bulls…SO WHAT?! Unlike Ray Lewis, he wasn’t accused of killing two human beings. Unlike Pacman Jones, he’s not implicated in a shooting that left a human being paralyzed. And don’t even think of using that stupid “well the dogs are innocent and were forced to do something against their will” argument. Jacinth Baker and Richard Lollar didn’t exactly invite Ray Lewis’ entourage to kill them. I KNOW that paralyzed bouncer wasn’t an active participant in the fight that led to his situation. What’s more important, the lives of three human beings or the lives of a few animals?
By Sam
August 20, 2007 4:29 PM | Link to this
Yes, killing a dog is not on par with killing humans. But there is hard evidence that shows that those who torture animals are sadistic and psychologically depraved. It is a precursor to other sadistic and despicable acts, this time carried out on humans. Look at any violent criminal or serial killer; animal abuse is always the most common trait among violent criminals.
By J.ATL
August 20, 2007 4:29 PM | Link to this
YES— It starts with 1) Mike accepting responsibility and stop blaming others….he is sort-of doing that now. 2) Mike personally issuing a statement (not his lawyers) to the public and especially children—NOT to follow his steps in bad judgement and horrible treatment of innocent animals for personal entertainment and financial gain. 3) A huge donation to the humane society that deals with the aftermath of these abused animals. 4) Demonstate that he has a heart and a mind of his own. 5) Dump that dead-beat entourage permanently!
Then maybe—just maybe he can start with back with arena-football and work his way back to NFL.
Long wait and Falcons are going to have to move on.
A SAD STORY WITH A SAD ENDING. MIKE ONLY HAS HIMSELF TO BLAME.
By Live Life
August 20, 2007 4:30 PM | Link to this
Yeah Vick was dumb to run the ball for MASTER!!!!!!!!!!! Stay in school young black males.
By dturner
August 20, 2007 4:30 PM | Link to this
Hey,
Who knows, maybe MV can join Pac-Man Jones and they can become tag team wrestlers- :-) Pac Man is already in the door !!
By Barbara
August 20, 2007 4:30 PM | Link to this
Vick may redeem himself personally, but based upon the lying to the Atlanta Falcons and the NFL he should be banned from football.
By Najeh Davenpoop
August 20, 2007 4:31 PM | Link to this
Vick handled this situation about as badly as possible. Either he should have pleaded guilty in the beginning, admitted to dogfighting, agreed to testify against his friends, and publicly apologized, or he should have had the balls to fight this all the way through trial and hope he came out not guilty. Pleading guilty at this stage in the game, after everyone else has pleaded, having nothing to offer prosecutors, and b****** the NFL and the fans about “clearing his good name” is pretty much the worst possible course of action.
He’s not going to get a favorable sentence at trial — spending a year in jail is not going to do any favors for him physically. Whether it’s fair or not, the public already views him as the scum of the earth, and pleading guilty now is not going to change anyone’s mind about him. In other words, an NFL team is going to be hard pressed to put him on the field at the highest profile position on the team.
As high profile as he is and as high profile as the QB position is in the NFL, I’d be really surprised if someone took a chance on him at age 29 when he gets out of jail. He should have had the balls to take this to trial. I don’t think what he did was that serious morally, but if you are going to break the law you better be smart enough not to get caught. I’m hoping against hope that he plays for the Falcons again, but the realist in me realizes that his time with the Falcons and probably the NFL is done. What a waste.
By Lowcountry Bulldawg
August 20, 2007 4:31 PM | Link to this
Liar. Michael Vick lied to us all. Michael Vick disrespected his family,himself and us the fans. Does he deserve to be forgived? Yes if he asks for forgiveness, but does that mean he should play football again? No, the NFL is a privledge,not a right. Michael Vick has blown a chance at creating a legacy for his family’s family. That is something he should have to live with the rest of his life. Do not give this guy the chance to make a joke of us, the NFL paying public. What a pathetic waste of talent.
By CommonSenseRules
August 20, 2007 4:32 PM | Link to this
Redemption?!? What happened to some steps that precede “redemption” such as remorse — not a scripted ‘apology’, doing some form form of recompense/penance, living with the consequences of one’s actions — painful and costly (and I don’t mean some jive $$ fine)though they may be, making amends, paying the piper??? Lifetime ban: consequence. Jailtime: consequence. Fine: consequence. If you haven’t learned the behavior-consequence relationship by age 5, perhaps you gotta learn it past age 25.
By jjjoooeee
August 20, 2007 4:32 PM | Link to this
He was a thug who got paid millions for his fight or flight reflex, He was not a good QB, He was a black Qb in Atlanta, which made him loved by default. He was and is dumber than a bag of hammers…get a real 6’5” QB who can pass….YOU KNOW…WHAT QUARTERBACKS SHOULD DO !!
By Plain Truth
August 20, 2007 4:33 PM | Link to this
I think this blog proves that there are a lot of people in Atlanta that care more about their pets than they do about a spoiled arrogant sadistic quarterback.
By Tyrone
August 20, 2007 4:33 PM | Link to this
Unfortunately, crimes committed by African Americans will always be a race issue to a lot of people. For some reason, when an African American is jailed, it’s because Mr. Whitey is after them. Folks it doesn’t matter if your white, black, brow, yellow or purple horseshoe shaped…breaking the law is breaking the law. What if Don Imus were Black, would you still condemn him for degrading Black women? STOP PLAYING THE DAMN RACE CARD ALREADY.
Unfortunately, crimes committed by African Americans will always be a race issue to a lot of people. For some reason, when an African American is jailed, it’s because Mr. Whitey is after them. Folks it doesn’t matter if your white, black, brow, yellow or purple horseshoe shaped…breaking the law is breaking the law. What if Don Imus were Black, would you still condemn him for degrading Black women? STOP PLAYING THE DAMN RACE CARD ALREADY.
By Gary
August 20, 2007 4:33 PM | Link to this
Everyone who redeems themselves can then get a chance to turn their life around - it is never automatic.. But who would hire Mike - 1 yr; 2 yrs from he will still be radioactive - too much for any team in the NFL - maybe the Canadian League…
By Tammy
August 20, 2007 4:33 PM | Link to this
Why do people keep mentioning RACE?? This has nothing to do with the fact that Vick is black…it has everything to do with the fact that he KILLED dogs…because they didn’t FIGHT to Vick’s standards. Black, White, Asian…who cares what race..I see some people here are saying that “White America” is after Vick…Hopefully ALL of America is after Vick…this is about those poor dogs…and as far as I’m concerned, he should be responsible for the ones being put down as well.
By lisa
August 20, 2007 4:33 PM | Link to this
I have a dog that I love so on the one hand I’m like throw him under the cell but as a Christian I know thats not right.
I do feel for Mike in that he has been BLESSED in so many ways and yet his life has taken such a drastic turn by his own doing.
Lord knows I’ve made mistakes; no, I haven’t harmed a dog nor any human being. My point being, he does derserve forgiveness/redemption if he asks for it but he won’t receive it from most (this blog is a testament to that).
Its just a terrible situation all the way around. Dang Mike!
By Steelers Fan
August 20, 2007 4:33 PM | Link to this
I hope he gets exactly what he deserves!!
By Tom
August 20, 2007 4:34 PM | Link to this
Forget football, that is not important. The important thing is that this young man needs medical help. If it doesn’t get it no amount of jail time will help him, be he black or white or green.
By Ann
August 20, 2007 4:35 PM | Link to this
I am not sure if he can redeem himself. To do that he will have to admit what he did and, more importantly, WHY he did it.
His statement today only apologizes for the ‘mistakes’ he made. These were not mere mistakes. He made a conscious decision to fight and kill these dogs in the most brutal fashion solely for his enjoyment. How does one go from enjoying brutalizing a dog one day to despising that same act the next day? A mere apology for a ‘mistake’ or a ‘bad choice’ is not enough. He must look deep inside himself to find out why he did this. If he is able to do so and can realize the depravity of his actions, see them for what they truly are, and actually changes his feelings about it, only then will the process of redemption begin.
It will be a long road. He will not be able to to this alone. He will need professional help. I hope he his able to take that step.
By Jr
August 20, 2007 4:35 PM | Link to this
It’s simple. Vick broke the law and he should pay the price. He will be yesterday’s news in a few months. And to those of you who still support Vick and who are critical of the Falcons for their tough treatment of this felon, do you know how ignorant you look? While you are obsessing over Michael Vick, the rest of the country will be laughing at you.
By RALPH
August 20, 2007 4:35 PM | Link to this
I like mike, he was the most exciting thing that happen to the falcons in the years that he played for them. He was the reason the stands was full, that’s a fact. How come PETA and the Humane Socity don’t go down to all the county animal shelters and protest them for killing all the dogs and cats, it’s because they would be jailed if they did. The humane Socity want the feds to put the dogs to death that the feds seized. Say it not so !! That say a lots of this is about. Get Mike Vick !!!
By Mz HR
August 20, 2007 4:36 PM | Link to this
Unbelievable, we are so transparent and sin free that we can judge AND end his career in one breathe. I feel like he should be punished, but why would his career have to end? Are we serious? All the people that drive DUI, use illegal drugs, commit mortgage fraud (i.e. exaggerate a little on your income, steal cable, etc.) should all come clean and resign immediately from their careers. Why are we so critical and judgemental on one another? I am not excusing it, I am just saying it was a stupid mistake and I am certain that he will be punished accordingly, but why END the career. People have been less critical for those that have taken human lives. GET A LIFE!!
By Keith from Chatt
August 20, 2007 4:36 PM | Link to this
If he doesn’t spend the next 5 years in jail, he’ll be back. Im sure the Raiders, Vikings or Dolphins would take him.
By dbs
August 20, 2007 4:38 PM | Link to this
I sincerely hope the population understands this whole affair has nothing to do with the race of individuals involved. If the quarterback’s name was Tom Brady, would we be more or less outraged? Would he not receive the same level of scrutiny because he’s a famous WHITE quarterback? That’s the issue here. The face of an NFL team was caught involved in the commission of SEVERAL felonies (that he denied and later pled guilty to).
I’m sure few people have heard of the group of hispanics arrested in Central Florida for cockfighting. Why? No high-profile athlete to turn it into a national story. Yet those individuals are facing the same penalties as Peace or Phillips. Atlanta just hasn’t heard of the story.
Wake up people. When you become a high-caliber athlete, you will always be under the microscope. Vick will be sentenced justly, and the entire nation will hear about it.
By Bruce
August 20, 2007 4:38 PM | Link to this
Anybody have some Season tickets they would like to sell me? I’ll take two.
By lee
August 20, 2007 4:39 PM | Link to this
All I can say is:
Thank God for the Braves!
By ss
August 20, 2007 4:39 PM | Link to this
Repent, right your wrongs and have no worries about what people say. He may not have a career with the NFL, but he can surely donate some of his knowledge, experience, and expertise to the youth that will possibly have football careers. Everything happens for reasons.
By Unclebuck
August 20, 2007 4:40 PM | Link to this
Why is it a black or white issue? He did something really stupid and now he has to pay the vig.
I will not forgive him for doing something of that nature. Abusing any animals is pure trash. He is no better than the two punks that cooked the live puppy at the community center Last year.
I miss Matt Schaub.
By ssh
August 20, 2007 4:40 PM | Link to this
No, it’s time for him to move on. He will never regain the support of doglovers in Atlanta.
If he is ever allowed to have dogs at all—hopefully, the judge will only allow him to own chihuahuas.
By caz
August 20, 2007 4:40 PM | Link to this
To me it is sad day for atlanta. But if you did’nt see it coming then you had your head in the sand. I’ve read on this blog about it being a race issue, that pure bull for the majority of people (black or white). Sure there are those among both races that see it that way,but they will on any issue involving the opposite race. This is about a MAN not a kid as so many people want to portrait Mr Vick, that chose the wrong path pur and simple. This about a MAN that stood there and lied through his teeth to you,me,and everyone else. This is about a MAN who lied to the one MAN that has steadfast had his back from the time he was a FALCON, Arthur Blank! Can he come back and play pro football again,sure he can there are plenty of examples of that happening. For me he needs to grow up,take responsibility for his actions, and be a MAN!!!!!
By NASDAQ
August 20, 2007 4:40 PM | Link to this
This case has served one purpose. It has opened everyone’s eyes to the racism that exists in america from all sides. Melting Pot my a*, this country has a long way to go.
By Sandra
August 20, 2007 4:40 PM | Link to this
There is a differnce between black & white, look at Martha Stewart she lied until the end and the world has seem to forget what she has done. She makes more money now more than every.
Mike keep your head up ask God forgiveness because he is the only one that can forgive you. The world sits back and judges as if they have done nothing wrong. Know that your black community is with you. Ha look at the lady that killed her husband (the preacher) she served 6 mths and she is out. We are talking about dogs not humans. It so sad. I just hope that you keep your head up and keep praying. Prayer changes things.
Sandra
By Patrick
August 20, 2007 4:41 PM | Link to this
To answer the direct question of redemption, I’d have to say that it is possible as anything is; however, it will be a huge uphill battle for MV7. I believe the best immediate course of action for him is to stop all of the stalling and deception that has brought this case to this point. As for the race issue, please consider the fact that lawman Poindexter in VA (who is not white by the way) has already stated that he plans to go after MV7 on felony charges. That seems to take away the race card that some posters like to flash on this blog. Comments?
By Gary B.
August 20, 2007 4:41 PM | Link to this
His career as an NFL player is over…HE is a PR nightmare for any team that he would play for if he got hired after he gets out of prison. He is done.
By techaholic
August 20, 2007 4:41 PM | Link to this
Anybody can redeem themselves IF THEY REALLY WANT TO.
He has to pay the price first for his wrongdoings and his lies.
Will he serve his time and change his life, up to him. I wouldn’t want him back in a Falcon’s uniform.
He needs to move on from Atlanta.
By uno
August 20, 2007 4:42 PM | Link to this
I hate to say it, but…
I TOLD YOU SO.
I TOLD YOU SO.
I TOLD YOU SO.
I TOLD YOU SO.
I TOLD YOU SO.
I TOLD YOU SO.
I TOLD YOU SO.
I TOLD YOU SO.
I TOLD YOU SO.
I TOLD YOU SO.
I TOLD YOU SO.
What, 4 years ago? Okay, I’m waiting for apologies from all you delusional Vick lovers. Hope your blinders are off now. Learn from your ignorant hero worship and move on.
You’re welcome, uno
By Tyrone
August 20, 2007 4:42 PM | Link to this
Unfortunately, crimes committed by African Americans will always be a race issue to a lot of people. For some reason, when an African American is jailed, it’s because Mr. Whitey is after them. Folks it doesn’t matter if you’re white, black, brown, yellow or purple horseshoe shaped…breaking the law is breaking the law. What if Don Imus were Black, would you still condemn him for degrading Black women? STOP PLAYING THE DAMN RACE CARD ALREADY.
By Do'h!
August 20, 2007 4:42 PM | Link to this
Where to begin:
Yes, Bush does send people to war and those at war get killed. This has nothing to do with Vick.
Yes, Blank was on safari in Africa. Did he shoot any wild animals? I am not sure. This has nothing to do with Vick.
Race: Where to begin….this is easy for me. I hate all of you. My family came to this country after 1900. Therefore, me and my family have absolutely nothing to do with whitey or blackey (I am from Western Europe and I have served in the US Military so don’t even start with your lame comments).
Vick killed innocent animals. He is not going to prison for life. Yes, I agree the woman who killed her husband and is already out of jail is appalling to me.
To the post about killing all animals…I take it you are a vegetarian who does not eat seafood, chicken, beef, etc.
Vick will do his time. Vick will not be the same person when he comes out (See Mike Tyson). Vick needs to realize what a waste his life is. He threw away over $130 million to watch and participate in dog fighting. If that is not a waste I have no clue what is.
Good day and please, please, please, learn to spell.
By Jim Andrews
August 20, 2007 4:43 PM | Link to this
Yo, bustaHustler…
Do you understand the concept of “criminal intent”?
Look it up on Google.
This concept is why Vick is in big trouble and cops who overreacted with deadly force and killed a man are not in big trouble.
It’s not race, it’s intent.
By Him
August 20, 2007 4:43 PM | Link to this
I love how you people play that race card. It is so original as well as predictible. The only race aspect of this issue is the one that you all bring up. Remember the pro-Vick rally outside the dome??? “Black Altanta supports Vick” Enough said. What if I made a sign that said “White Atlanta Opposes Vick”??? What would have been said then? Quit thinking the “white” man is out to get you and realize that racism these days comes from your side, not ours!
By Carlton
August 20, 2007 4:44 PM | Link to this
I wonder if Peyton Manning was somehow behind this…maybe he set up our bro…
By Thomas
August 20, 2007 4:45 PM | Link to this
The white man framed him!! They are always responsible for someones poor decisions. Can’t graduate high school or get a job? blame the white man!!
By Artie
August 20, 2007 4:45 PM | Link to this
Michael Vick gets what he deserves for killing innocent animals. Crimes like this can’t be taken seriously enough. This has nothing to do with scapegoating or race, although Al Sharpton apparently disagrees:
http://www.newsgroper.com/al-sharpton/2007/08/20/guilty-plea-full-vick-innocent-oj/
By innenwelt2002
August 20, 2007 4:45 PM | Link to this
I don’t understand the person who said that white people are “enjoying this somehow”. What could be further from the truth? I think alot of people feel betrayed by Mike Vick and naturally they are expressing those frustrations. The people who support him and the people who are against him are really not so different in the fact that we all wanted to see Vick on the football field. Because of his actions that is no longer a possibility and I think people on both sides of the color spectrum are ticked off about it. Unfortunately I think the black community just feels persecuted as a whole when something like this happens…It just automatically becomes a divisive issue. It shouldn’t be…We should all be mad!
By RED and BLACK
August 20, 2007 4:47 PM | Link to this
One day while in prision, Michael Vick will happen upon an injured baby sparrow in the exercise yard. He will take the bird back to his cell and nurse it back to health. Finding a deep satisfaction in caring for the bird he attends to other injured birds and nurses them back to health.
He will then proceed to have said sparrows fight until there deaths.
People get a clue. Its not about white or black it is about one stupid mistake an ignorant person made. People bringing up Katrina and the shootings in NYC by the police officers and comparing this to Micheal Vick? Are you serious? Its not about white or black. Unless of course you want it to be.
Micheal Vick was/is the most overated athlete in the NFL.
By d
August 20, 2007 4:48 PM | Link to this
I see a lot of you on here are perfect an have never lied. Vick can reedem himself through Christ which is the most important thing. I really don’t think he will play football again. I wanted to commet also on the statement that dogs are like people, I am so sorry you are so far off I love my dogs, my cats, my birds, but if it ever came a time when I had to choose between saving my dog or my son, what do you think I would do better yet what would you do?
By Blind Homer
August 20, 2007 4:48 PM | Link to this
Now that we have quite possibly seen the entirety of MV’s NFL career, let’s be honest. He was never a GREAT pro QB and probably never would have been. He led his team to a 7-9 record last year with the 32nd dead last passing offense, and that wasn’t all bad routes and dropped balls, but overthrown open receivers, an inability to find the 2nd or 3rd option and a total lack of the touch pass. And we were 25th in scoring partly because he carelessly carried the ball resulting in several fumbles in scoring position and stupidly got sacked a few times taking us out of field goal range. Good riddance, now the Falcons have a chance to become truly great!
By Ike
August 20, 2007 4:48 PM | Link to this
ATLBoy— “it may have been better to drive drunk and kill a person, or simply kill a person, or rape an individual or better yet leave a entire city of people stranded for 3 to 4 days without food and water,”
all those things would’ve landed vick in jail for longer, so no, it WOULDN’T have been better to do those things.
But your outrageous hyperbole is amusing.
there are white people in jail for dog fighting, and Mike Vick will get FAR LESS jail time than a normal citizen— he’ll only get a year, most people who electrocute and drown dogs would get more, EVEN WHITE PEOPLE.
yes i understand he was the reason for Falcons selling out the Dome, and that will probably end. how is him being an entertaining player justification for letting him off easy?
By Monte Stephens
August 20, 2007 4:48 PM | Link to this
Yes, Vick can redeem himself. First and foremost he got himself into this trouble and this is the honorable way of getting out by repaying his debt to society. For everybody that is saying that he cannot redeem himself must first look in the mirror and think about their lives and personal issues they have. Dog fighting is wrong and has been around for along time. This issue of dogfighting and c** fighting amuses me because there are so many people out in rural Georgia who do participate in these so called sporting events on a weekly basis but nothing is done about it. I would like to ask AJC readers to look around observe your surroundings and you will find tons of people and maybe some of friends participating in these events. I can name many places in Ga towns that have rooster farms in there backyard. They sure aint raisin roosters to eat but to fight till the death. If you say animal cruelty is wrong then please by all means get everbody that does it not just a high profile athlete but Joe Blow who is just as good at raising fighting animals as he. Redemption is for those who sincerly want it and yes if Mike Vick wants it than repent and sin no more. Mike Vick may never play in the NFL again but he never lost his intergity on the field but he did lose it as a player. I am Mike Vick Fan and Animal Lover
By asdfasd
August 20, 2007 4:49 PM | Link to this
Sylvia, luckily, I’m not a Christian. I just hope he suffers terribly.
By NFLfan
August 20, 2007 4:49 PM | Link to this
I think Vick needs psychological help and I hope he can redeemed. For example, a person who suffers from Antisocial Personality Disorder exhibits this behavior: 1. failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest 2. deceitfulness, as indicated by repeated lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure 3. impulsivity or failure to plan ahead 4. irritability and aggressiveness 5. reckless disregard for safety of self or others 6. consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to honor obligations 7. lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another.
By Danielle
August 20, 2007 4:49 PM | Link to this
There have been far worse crimes done by athletes and they still played their sport. Trust and believe Mike Vick will play again, maybe not for the Falcons but for some other team. Once he has done his time, he will be sought after. Everyone is in an uproar over some dogs, (and yes I am a dog lover) but does anyone say anything when players kill people (strangers, spouses, friends, employees)? Nope. They go to court, may or may not plead guilty, do there time and what happens…hummm….. Do I see them again on the field or court or even on the baseball diamond? Everyone needs to get off his back and go clean out your own dang closet. Everyone is always so quick to judge. Man, I would hate to see what’s in your backyard?
By Keila
August 20, 2007 4:49 PM | Link to this
It is by the grace of God that we are all forgiven for our sins. With that said, we all fall short, is one sin bigger than the next? Michael Vick made a terrile mistake, he has now owned up to it, and he should be given the chance to make amends. I truly believe that Michael will be able to play football in the future. Time heals all wounds.
By Bill
August 20, 2007 4:49 PM | Link to this
After he has paid his debt to society, he should get another opportunity to play if he is able. Our society has done its best to make sure those that break the law never get a second chance. He is lucky to have football. The Arena league might work for him.
It reminds me a little of Mike Tyson - remember how well that went?
By the way, it is “role model” folks, not “roll model.”
By LTX
August 20, 2007 4:50 PM | Link to this
Well at least OJ got away!!!
By Rev. G.
August 20, 2007 4:50 PM | Link to this
Unbelievable are some of these comments. Vick’s wrong and deserves to be prosecuted as the law allows. His callousness however is supersceded by the viciousness of the thoughts of some of the respondents to this inquiry. Evil people don’t just commit heinous acts against canines, they also send in comments to web polls. Lord help us all.
By judge
August 20, 2007 4:50 PM | Link to this
Don’t blame the WHITE MAN!Blame yourself.
By David Lee
August 20, 2007 4:51 PM | Link to this
Time for Mike Vick (aka Ookie, Ron Mexico, MV7) to take responsibility for what he had done. And some half-arsed apology through his lawyer does not cut it. Mike is just not “man enough” to take responsibilty. Put another way, his mama didn’t teach him any better.
By Matt
August 20, 2007 4:51 PM | Link to this
Where are all the NAACP supporters and everyone screaming this was a racial issue? I expect public statements from these organizations and what their stance is now!
By Nelda
August 20, 2007 4:51 PM | Link to this
Vick should do his time in prison along with fines and then part of his judgement should be that he volunteers 1000 hours or more working with the humane society. Perhaps after he had cared for the sick and dying it might touch some part of his spiritual makeuup. He has much to learrn. Money along doesn’t buy him another opportunity let him serve.
By J.C.
August 20, 2007 4:51 PM | Link to this
Michael Vick killing dogs was just another moronic thing to put on his resume. Lets face the facts here. Michael Vick was probably one of the most stupid quarterbacks EVER. They had to make the playbook smaller just for him. He only had 2 reads per play…He put something illegal into something illegal to carry on to an airplane. I actually think its a great thing for the Falcons team. Now we can probably get rid of his contract without losing as much money as if we just straight out cut him. It is sad though, if we do end up with a white quarterback, I’m sure a lot of African Americans just won’t support the team. Even though guys like Warrick Dunn are class A citizens, and one of my favorite players. I hope Vick never gets to play in the NFL again, and if he does, for God’s sake, make him a slot reciever.
By Scott
August 20, 2007 4:51 PM | Link to this
Some of you people never cease to amaze me. This ISN’T about race. This is about a person who loved to toture and kill dogs.
He will never be forgiven in my eyes, and there is a special place in hell that burns a little bit hotter reserved for people like him.
By Johnny Reb
August 20, 2007 4:52 PM | Link to this
Black man, black man, boring. He broke the law and should be punshied. It is not about going duck hunting or deer hunting. He broke the law on the feloney scale. The RICCO act, gamblimg, bank rolling the whole illegal operation and taking part in the killing of the dogs. Come on people wake up. As Vick now knows there is a time to cut your losses. And at the moment M.V. isa loss. Can he come back in time, well that is entirely up to M.V., with his present attitude and game plan NO WAY. Can he change, well that can only be answered by God and M.V. You seem to know hoe to use the internet, look up the dog fighting crap and cruelity that is done. Yes, two people fight and tempers flare. That is a decision to individuals of comparative intellegence. That is a little more understandable. Sad but true, that is life. If you see in in white and black, then take off the blinders. There are good prople in both races and bad ones in both.
By teacher
August 20, 2007 4:52 PM | Link to this
i’m just sorry m.v. cannot understand how much he hurt himself, the falcons, the city of atlanta, and the states of georgia and virginia. the christian side of me says he can most certainly be forgiven through God’s grace. the human side of me says “no way” because of how brutal he is to kill with his bare hands. this is not about black and white…it’s about knowing what is wrong and knowing who is wrong. michael needs to do some serious soul searching. i’m still waiting on mv to “prove his innoncence”. i’m mad and will never support the falcons if he is not banned for life. forgiven? yes forgotten? NEVER
By Christy
August 20, 2007 4:52 PM | Link to this
The problem with saying that Vick should be treated like Average Joe is that he ISN’T an Average Joe. He’s the highest paid player in the NFL - more than Manning, Brady and McNabb. His endorsements probably exceed theirs as well over the last few years.
So tell me, why does a man (a grown man mind you, not a boy or inexperienced youth) need to go out and risk it all on an illegal activity? Leave aside the disgusting nature of dog fights themselves, for those of you that apparently attend and enjoy those functions, and you still have the aspect of wagering on the fights, which is SO far outside of allowed behavior for the NFL that there can be NO excuse for his having done so.
And, I gotta ask, if it was a race thing, how in hell did Ray Lewis get back in the game so quickly after obstructing a murder charge? Don’t you think the system would have hung him out to dry if it was about race?
WHAT has Mike done to deserve so much of your love and so little of your intelligent consideration and weighing of the facts at hand? Why doesn’t Warrick Dunn get this much love, when he is out there in the community actually making a difference in people’s lives without all of the “come see what I do” atmosphere that surrounds Mike Vick?
Grow up people. Mike’s about to - courtesy of the US Government.
By puppyluver
August 20, 2007 4:52 PM | Link to this
NO!
By Steve
August 20, 2007 4:52 PM | Link to this
Some of you are saying that just because Vick didn’t kill a human, what he did was acceptable. I say that we should care very deeply that he violently and cruely killed animals because they did not perform well enough for him. We can and should care whenever someone kills animals or humans. Neither is or ever should be acceptable. Why can’t we care about both animals and humans? The answer is that we should. I will never watch him play again and I hope that the NFL is not greedy enough to let him play again. What a terrible shame that a young man with so much talent made such vicious decisions and ruined his life.
By Rin Tin Tin
August 20, 2007 4:52 PM | Link to this
So Mike Vick has lied from the beginning? It certainly looks that way. Ookie did a bad thing. Don’t lie to the government.
Yes, it was “just dogs” but it is illegal. Like it or not, dogs in our society are considered by many to be family and ‘children.’
Bad Vick. Bad Vick.
By Machineman
August 20, 2007 4:53 PM | Link to this
It is amazing that so many of you have all of this negative crap to come out about Mike, but would probably cry like a baby if YOU were put in this situation. I am not condoning the wanton killing of animals, but the next time that you sit down to a meal of animal flesh (steak, chicken, fish, pork loin, etc.)think about this; would you want the people responsible for the deaths of these animals prosecuted? Or would YOU accept punishment for EATING them? I guess having them fight is much worse than EATING them, huh? I hope that Mike DOES play again in the NFL, takes his team to the Superbowl and wins it all, just not in THIS city of fair-weather fans. Oh, and one more thing, for all of you PETA people out there, don’t get caught at Longhorn, Chick-fil-A or even Arby’s. If I catch you, I’m callin’ the law. Lousy buncha hypocrites….
By Starr
August 20, 2007 4:53 PM | Link to this
You fair weather people are ridiculous!!! You have destroyed a man and his lively hood for gambling issues. I don’t believe Vick participated in the killing of any dogs. He just supported an illegal act. The same thing that people contribute to when you buy a blood diamond from Africa or the children who slave to make your clothes for you in sweat shops. You could care less about that.HYPOCRITES
By jen
August 20, 2007 4:53 PM | Link to this
he’s a lowlife who has no integrity, decency, or class. He should be made to pay restitution to the ASPCA and to the federal courts, and to serve “community service” after his release from “the doghouse” at an animal shelter cleaning cages. Inmates in many prisons now train assistance animals…lets put a puppy in his prison cell and force compassion on him. make him care for and love the little critter and bring some good into the world. but a thug like him will fit in fine in prison..Im a longtime football fan but if he ever plays in the NFL again I will never watch another game. I do agree we all do bad things but people who kill animals are much much more likely to KILL PEOPLE. If he can shoot a dog in the head he can just as easily shoot a person with no remorse. He is a dangerous criminal who has no place in a civilized society. Just because he wore a uniform for a team doesnt make him above the law, or above contempt.
By Brandi
August 20, 2007 4:53 PM | Link to this
Yes, absolutely. I don’t understand this let the man serve his sentence and come back and do his job. People aren’t persecuted this much for hurting people. Seems to me that a dogs life is of more value than a humans. Sorry to all the dog lovers out there that say Vick should be put down, or locked away for life but this is a human who made a mistake which we all have made. Let the man keep his JOB.
By JEREMY
August 20, 2007 4:53 PM | Link to this
All you so called Christians who say Vick can’t redeem himself are so out to lunch. This is real funny how us so called Christians pick and chose which acts people commit are considered redeemable. Who died and said we became God?? Who are we to past judgement on the next person? the Bible clearly says “he/she without sin cast the first sin” and since none of us are perfect then its not up to us to determine if Vick is redeemable. As long as Vick confesses his sin to the God he believes in then thats all that matters. We Christian Americans are so out to lunch on what it means to be aa true Christian. Forgive and forget. Some of us have committed far worse sins than Vick but we walk around like our stuff dont stank. Get a clue. God said “vegeance is mine” not ours!!!!! Vick is clearly paying for his actions as we speak. Im saddened that another young man has wasted the good part of his life on immoral activities and now his career might end just as fast as it started. Am I surprised by his actions by association…no I’m not. Remember law enforcement went to his place of residence on a drug warrant for his friend or cousin. Vick why are you association yourself with family and friends of this nature??!! You are a professional athelete. Some friendships and associations need to end or not be as frequent now that you are the face of the Atlanta Falcons. I have friends and family the same way Vick but for me to make any progress in the career I wanna go I have to distance myself from all the bull and illegal stuff. Its this “I gotta keep it real attitude” “I gotta keep it hood ” belief in the african american community that drives these associations. But its sad these same associations have Vick on the front page of the paper and about to end the career of a lifetime. For fighting dogs and gambling. Was it worht it Vick??!! But Vick is a grown man and he must be held accountable for his actions point blank. I clearly dont like how he is ostracized in the media because of his actions mainly because he is an african american athlete. I myself am an african american male with advanced education and I have faced racism from so many places and people its ridiculous. Had this been anyone else we wouldnt be having these discussions. I mean no one is talking about the nba refree who gambled and altered the outcomes of championship and playoff games. he has cost people their hard earned money and probably some people’s livelihood. Maybe because I live in Atlanta is the reason for so much coverage but point blank there is always one set of rules for african americans in america and another for white america. Im not making this a race issue Im making it a issue of truth and fairness but the justice system is built upon unfairness.
By Sylvia R. Williams
August 20, 2007 4:54 PM | Link to this
If Michael Vick had been white, would the federal government have went after him so hard? Punish him, but why take away his career. Damn he made a mistake. Its so sad that not one people that are famous are afraid to speak up and help and say Michael Vick made a mistake give him another chance. Its sad, a black man in America catches hell.
By American European
August 20, 2007 4:54 PM | Link to this
Terence Moore says that most of the African Americans will stay home because white people are against this dumbass. I hope so, maybe it will be fun and safe to go back to the games again.
By Bubba
August 20, 2007 4:55 PM | Link to this
Redeem himself to whom ? Some Falcon Ticket holders ? Animal lovers ? Arthur Blank ? I think he is a disgrace to professional athletes at all levels of all pro-sports.
By TPain
August 20, 2007 4:56 PM | Link to this
Redemption…meaning? Will he recover? Yes, football is a way of life but not life itself. Will he be able to pay back or make amends? Not in this lifetime. Regardless of the term you use or you view of the situation, it is what it is. He broke the law and it came back to bite him in the butt. Does everyone that commnits a crime go to jail? No When people have money before they go to jail always come out broke? No
What will any of us gain one way or the other? Not a darn thing. Arthur Blank will not go broke if Vick doesn’t play. Vick will not go broke if he doesn’t play football ever gain…unless he doesn’thave the brains God gave a duck.
People lose jobs everyday! If he is you or your child’s hero…get another one that isn’t in the spotlight. There are people that make a difference on a daily basis and you never hear about them.
Being black, growing up in the “hood”, or making mistakes don’t make you a thug. It is your choices, actions, and the way you deal with being black, growing up in the “hood”, and making mistakes that makes you a thug.
Somebody is going to rake in a lot of money from all of this but it won’t be any of us.
By John, Chattanooga
August 20, 2007 4:56 PM | Link to this
Everyone hopes Mr. Vick can rehabilitate his life…anyone deserves that opportunity. The key will be to denounce any attempt by his supporters to make this a racial issue. I think most Americans are sick of this. He’s still a young man with a chance to do worthwhile endeavors with his life. Let us hope he follows that path. This was such a bad set of choices, coupled with people around him who never held him accountable (Owner Blank Among Them!).
By p diddy
August 20, 2007 4:56 PM | Link to this
HACK NO! Michael Vick can redeem himself. He id say he is guilty in all of those charges. If I were Roger Goodell I’ll banish him. SCREW MIKE VICK
By gamule1
August 20, 2007 4:57 PM | Link to this
I am a white person and I hope Vick gets a second chance. There is a process and Vick may already have taken the first step. Admit guilt, and in this case spend no less than a year in Federal Prison. Next, settle with the Virginia authorities by jail time and fine, or both. Then contribute a substantial amount of money to many different community animal control clinics for pet rehab. Once those things are done he should again be allowed to play professional ball. If the prosecutors and judges let Vick off with a slap, overnight jail, probation, and no felony conviction, it will dissappoint me greatly.
By Actually
August 20, 2007 4:57 PM | Link to this
Actually this was all a set up by Arthur Blank and Bobby Petrino to draft Brian Brohm as the QB of the future next year.
By Thomas
August 20, 2007 4:57 PM | Link to this
How many of you so called “African-Americans” were born in Africa?
By trilltalk
August 20, 2007 4:58 PM | Link to this
IM SORRY, BUT AS A BLACK AMERICAN I JUST CAN NOT PASS JUDGEMENT ON A PERSON’S LIFE FOR ONE OR TWO MISTAKES THAT HE HAS MAD.FROM READIND ALL THE INFO ON VICK I HAVE FOUND THAT HE HAS DONE ALOT OF GOOD THINGS DURING HIS CAREER.LET VICK TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR HIS MISTAKE THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE TOTALLY BLOWING UP AND MOVE ON WITH HIS LIFE.
By Debbie
August 20, 2007 4:58 PM | Link to this
I have read a lot of the emails printed against Mike. I wonder if any of you go to the circus when it comes to town, visit the zoo, avid hunters or are frequent visitors to any spectatur shows involving animals. I’m not an animal lover, however, I hate to see anything mistreated. What do you think happens with the animals that are caged, in the circus and the like. None of God’s creatures were meant to be locked up in a cage or hunted for the sport of it. So when all of you continue to shout out the profanities to Mike, examine yourselves. Mike can redeem himself if you allow him. As one contributor mentioned, it is a shame there is not this much attention to the 3 kids recently killed in the North.
Bless you my children who has never done anything wrong and has never asked for forgiveness.
By Gary
August 20, 2007 4:58 PM | Link to this
A thug is a thug is a thug….why are people so surprised at this behavior?? It will take something for more severe than this to make him change. Unfortunate but true, don’t hold your breath that he will anytime soon.
By J.T.
August 20, 2007 4:58 PM | Link to this
It’s up to him to redeem his image.He’s going to need to appear on Bill O’Reilly,Hannity & Colmes,Larry King…etc.The black community in Atlanta,has their own set of values,norms,racial agenda when it comes to the criminal justice system.They beleive he’s another innocent brother being wronfully convicted (i.e. O.J. Barry Bonds..etc).Attention African American Community of Atlanta : Mike Vick lied to you,he lied to your children,he lied to all that fought for civil rights (John Lewis,Jesse Jackson,Al Sharpton…etc) he let all of you down,all of you.Still even when Marion Barry in D.C. was smoking crack in a motel with a trick,the black community elected him once again as mayor of D.C.Black people are completely hypocritical when it comes to accountability for one’s actions,especially one of their own.The white community will forgive him,only if he fesses up,repents publicly for his actions.WE are all human.
By chris
August 20, 2007 4:58 PM | Link to this
To the fan who wrote “Only in America is a man’s llife worth nothing. A woman murders her husand and gets 64 days in prison”… That’s right she got 64 days for killing a man who beat her. She should have been given a million dollars and sent home to raise her kids. You are trying to compare apples to oranges and that’s just stupid.
By Thomas Davis
August 20, 2007 4:59 PM | Link to this
I really think Mike Vick would kill another human being (and not only dogs) if he thought he could get away with it.
By Ms
August 20, 2007 4:59 PM | Link to this
So many judgemental comments from judgemental people. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
By p diddy
August 20, 2007 4:59 PM | Link to this
Instead of feeding the hungry he blows thousands of dollars to torture animals come on VICK there are people out there who will die for a loaf bread and your out there killing helpless dogs. The black community should be ashamed for themselves for supporting VICK
By Sam
August 20, 2007 4:59 PM | Link to this
As the comedian says, “You can’t fix stupid.”
How much stupidity can be in one person? He is the HIGHEST paid NFL player and he does this? Un-stinking-believable!
By GASportsFan
August 20, 2007 4:59 PM | Link to this
Let’s get real here. Number 1 Vick should be punished because even though I am not an animal lover, they shouldn’t be hurt. Number 2 Animals don’t have souls so they won’t be in heaven or hell as some of you are obviously misled to believe.
By Give me a break . . .
August 20, 2007 5:00 PM | Link to this
He has admitted what he did. Should he get another chance? Yeah, like the one he gave each dog on his property. He had choices. The dogs didn’t. He is an adult, responsible and made enough money. He only did this because he is vile to the core. Don’t hold your breath that he will change.
By truthteller
August 20, 2007 5:00 PM | Link to this
Does anyone here seriously believe Vick will ever play pro football again? It’s not happening, so no point in discussing wheter he can “redeem” himself. There is no franchise that would add this baggage to their team.
The fact that so many black people continue to defend this guy is really sad, and should convince everyone that the chasm between black and white in this country continues to widen in spite of all the misguided social engineering by our federal government.
For those of you who may have wondered how OJ’s black jury could have turned him loose even though all the evidence said he murdered two people, you only have to read the posts from black people on this page to understand. Very, very sad.
By Supporter
August 20, 2007 5:00 PM | Link to this
Yep he can and will. Besides here is something to think about the next time yall eat
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By rlynn
August 20, 2007 5:00 PM | Link to this
Yes Mike Vick may redeem himself but it is not likely owing to his exposed sadistic nature.
Alicia, you may be a groupie but you’re not a football fan. Vick was a mediocre NFL QB and it is likely that he would have been done after this coming season in Atlanta.
By RED and BLACK
August 20, 2007 5:00 PM | Link to this
SD-if you were a REAL MAN you would post your name when you make statements like that.Thats right continue to hid behind your computer.
By Rebekah
August 20, 2007 5:01 PM | Link to this
Terrence Moore said it all….come clean Mike….confess your sins and ask for forgiveness from God, your family, your fans, and your country.
By KA
August 20, 2007 5:01 PM | Link to this
We can forgive him, but he lied and broke the trust with his team and his fans, and it’s unlikely that anyone will ever trust him again. Pitiful that he’s thrown his career away like this.
By Brian
August 20, 2007 5:01 PM | Link to this
This might be the only case where a pro athlete gets what he deserves. I think the NFL, Falcons, Mr. Blank and the city is going to come down hard on Ron Mexico. I know he’s hard to tackle, but Ookie can’t wiggle out of this one.
By NFL Fan
August 20, 2007 5:01 PM | Link to this
You are kidding, right?
By Rob
August 20, 2007 5:02 PM | Link to this
he’s a liar,he will never make it in jail,if he isn’t killed in prison it will screw his head up and football future ie over
By Ike
August 20, 2007 5:02 PM | Link to this
“Michael Vick became a threat to White America time he stepped onto the field. He will Redeem himself!”
i’m sure that’s why he got a $130 million football contract and a $100 million endorsement deal from Nike. i woudln’t really classify that as “holding down the black man”
By Ronny
August 20, 2007 5:03 PM | Link to this
With success, notoriety and millions in his pocket, Michael Vick chose to forcibly breed, train, fight and sadistically end the lives of helpless animals to satisfy his barbaric craving for blood and even more money. His boyhood in the projects notwithstanding, some folks are just sorry.
In a recent radio interview, Vick proclaimed that he’d placed his fate with the man upstairs. Good for you, Mikey. However, it looks like the Lord already has your number. Proverbs 12:10 says, “A good man takes care of his animals, but wicked men are cruel to theirs.” To that I say “Yea and Verily and AMEN!”
By Carla
August 20, 2007 5:03 PM | Link to this
Redemption? He can pray for it, but he doesn’t deserve another chance to act as a role-model to our youth. He is a very cruel & selfish person. And what kind of idiot compares duck hunting (which I don’t agree w/either) to dog fighting? Dog fighting is sick, demented behavior. How would you like to be pumped up with drugs & then put in a pin to have every part of your body bitten & mauled? People that condone this activity are pathetic.
By Jessamine
August 20, 2007 5:03 PM | Link to this
My personal philosophy is do unto others what they did to the animals. If you tie a dog to a tree for days with no food, that is your punishment also. Granted we can’t drown or smash Mike’s head into the ground (much as I’d like to, but never could since I actually value life) but there has to be some punishment so he knows the magnitude of his crime.
I certainly will never forgive what he’s done and I REALLY hope the NFL and Arthur Blank don’t allow him back on the Falcons. He obviously needs psychiatric help, not football. You have to have something already broken inside to be so heartless and cruel that you can treat life like it is garbage. You can’t “recover” or “fix” that overnight.
I hope he enrolls in therapy. As many people have mentioned, serial killers begin by killing animals. That disregard for life escalates and killing humans becomes just as meaningless to them.
The only way he could redeem himself slightly is if he gave all of his future salary, minus enough to live “reasonably” on (and I mean reasonable like the rest of us, not owning 10 cars and 10 houses, etc) to the Humane Society - Pet Helpers - etc.
But, I’m sure he’ll get off with a slap on the wrist. I certainly won’t be at any of his games.
By Enoughalready
August 20, 2007 5:04 PM | Link to this
first you claimed he was innocent and the charges were false. now that vick has admitted his guilt you blame it on whiteys, racism, society, the dogs, his crew, the phase of the moon… everyone accept vick - the person who willingly committed these crimes.
do people ever accept responsibility for their actions in your world or are they perpetual victims?
yes, racism is rampant in our society, but this crime did not happen because of racism. it happened because a disturbed, violent man,who happens to be black, committed heinous acts.
your attitudes embody the “victim” mentality that Juan Williams so forcefully postulates in his book “Enough”.
nothing will change in this world until we all look in the mirror, accept responsibility for our actions and quit blaming everyone else for what happens in our lives.
By Deborah
August 20, 2007 5:04 PM | Link to this
Mike needs to be punished for the crime committed like anyone else would be. The bigger issue here is the number of people in this country, black, white, whatever, who seem to think that abusing animals is no big deal. They’re just animals, not humans. Animals feel pain just like humans do. The execution of the underperforming animals disgusts me more than the dog fighting does. It demonstrates a lack of humanity. Anyone who would treat an animal like that will most likely abuse a human at some point in their life. Mike needs to do some serious soul searching and try to understand why people would be outraged at his behavior and why he thought that behavior is acceptable. He is a college graduate. More is expected of people with an education and the advantages he had in life. He should have been smart enough to recognize what he was getting involved in was wrong and stopped it. If he used his brain, he wouldn’t be in this mess.
By Federal charges
August 20, 2007 5:04 PM | Link to this
He will never play football again, as an employee of the NFL and Atlanta Falcons they have the right to terminate his contract. If you were under a federal indictment your employer would do the same thing.
I am never amazed anymore of how quickly it all becomes a race issue especially here in Atlanta from the African American side especially. But, I am curious. Do some of you support him only b/c he is black? Or, are you convinced if is being persecuted b/c of his skin color? Do you truly believe he is innocent and had nothing to do with the crimes he is being indicted for? Some of the arguments by some of you have been, “they are dogs, not humans.” You must know it does not matter in the eyes of the law, killing animals or humans, both all illegal!
By LTX
August 20, 2007 5:04 PM | Link to this
AJC IS BEING RACIALLY BIAS ON POSTING COMMENTS. THIS SHOULD BE BASED ON PUBLIC OPINION.
By Ga Girl
August 20, 2007 5:04 PM | Link to this
People, people, people…state charges, federal charges, Dog Fighting is ILLEGAL, Gambling is ILLEGAL!!! Race has no place in this case, EVERYONE goes to jail, white, black, pink, purple.
The question about redemption boils down to INTEGRITY. Vick has done nothing but tell one lie after another, which shows a complete lack of INTEGRITY.
Redemption will be a very long road.
By Swatlanta
August 20, 2007 5:05 PM | Link to this
People, they are just dogs. Everybody wasn’t raised with the passion for dogs that some of you have. I could care less about the dogs that died. The Humane society kills 15+ million animals a year. White people hunt deer, birds, or anything else that falls into the scope of their high powered rifles all in the name of sport. Mike Vick’s punishment should be no more severe than a routine traffic violation IMO. To hell with PETA and all of the drama they bring.
By Akagi
August 20, 2007 5:06 PM | Link to this
Perhaps babyphat you should shut up before you prove to everyone how stupid you are.
1) The Constitution is the highest law of the land—which means when an amendment to it is ratified it becomes the highest law of the land.
2) The Voting Rights Act was passed in 1965.
By Bill
August 20, 2007 5:06 PM | Link to this
Lets see…we sent Ricky Williams to the CFL. Next will be Michael Vick. What other garbage can we dump over the border!!
By Rich
August 20, 2007 5:08 PM | Link to this
I could only bring myself to read approximately the first fifteen posts here before being disgusted. I find it absolutely asinine that some people continue to use the race card. You can continue to claim that I do not like him because of the color of his skin. When you do so, you show your own ignorance and bias. Some of you make me embarrassed to be an Atlantan.
Perhaps there are some people who never liked Vick because of his race, but I have supported him continually throughout the issues, both on and off the field. However, I can no longer justify doing so, and it has nothing to do with him being black. Rather it has everything to do with a water bottle, stolen jewelry, a sexual indiscretion, a photo, two fingers, and a bunch of dogs that were forced to fight or be killed.
Despite the fact Vick admitted his guilt today, after lying to all of us, including Gooddell and Blank, some of you still support him and claim this is because he is black. If you had any sense and logic, you would realize it is because he was guilty of a felony, or perhaps even the last straw in many off-field incidents that have embarrassed not only Vick, but the franchise and this city.
For those who continue to predict empty seats at the Dome, a losing franchise, etc., I do not care. This was about much more than football and the success of the Falcons. This was about a human being who had amazing talents far beyond those of most people, and he was rewarded for his potential, and then tossed it all away with a string of bad decisions, with the most recent one being something even Blank could not sweep under the rug.
If the Falcons suffer for two, five, or ten years, it is nothing true Falcon fans have not endured before, and we shall no doubt find enjoyable moments amid the rebuilding.
If Vick learns anything from his punishments applied as a result of his bad decisions, he will be a better man for it. However, today, he is not much of a man at all. First and foremost, he is a liar, and as a result, whether he is white, black, or polka-dotted, he is a lesser man than I.
By judge
August 20, 2007 5:08 PM | Link to this
From the looks of these posts,seperate but equal don’t sound to bad.
By lucky
August 20, 2007 5:08 PM | Link to this
I love Mike Vicks as a great QB. But if he is gulity of dog fighting and the killing of dogs then I forgive him if he want to be forgiven…No one is perfect and everyone have a past..do what ever it is to correct this and go on with your life what done is done….know one can judge NO ONE LOOK AT YOUR SELF FIRST……
By CDS
August 20, 2007 5:08 PM | Link to this
Go ahead Vick supporters and cry for Vick/Ookie. He’s going to the slammer, and there’s nothing you can do about it. I kept saying that race has nothing to do with it, but I find it comical that so many of you still think this is some kind of conspiracy against a rich black man. He’s a petty thug and a below-average QB.
Yes I’m black and I’m saying this. You want to call me and other blacks who have the same opinion about Vick an Uncle Tom? Go ahead. I’m going to finally root for the Falcons now that I don’t have to worry about that selfish, petty thug behind center. Too bad about Shockley though. There was a stand-up guy who could’ve brought the same skills Vick had (with a better arm), and none of the thuggery associated with him. Hopefully he can come back next season.
Good luck to the Falcons. I feel so much better knowing that jerk is getting exactly what he deserves. Go Joey Harrington, and Go Falcons!
P.S. Matt Schaub says “HAHAHAHAHA!”
By Not Ever
August 20, 2007 5:09 PM | Link to this
As an African American I don’t understand why the black community rallies around the dog killing machine Michael Vick. I think Michael is one sick individual, I was very disappointed that he accepted the plea deal because I wanted him to serve the maximum penalty allowed. Wake up black people there is no excuse for breaking the law, and for you out there that actually think the feds are just going after him because he is black or all of this is just a setup. Let me assure you that the feds have way bigger fish to fry than a thug like Michael Vick, but still the feds are charged with bring justice to those who break the law and in this case Michael did so. Michael Vick and his attorney looked like fools pleading not guilty and making all of those statements about how they couldn’t wait to prove his innocence, too bad that day will never come. I hope the judge does the right thing in this case and send Michael away for a very long time, and I also hope that the NFL suspends Michael indefinitely.
By Dee
August 20, 2007 5:10 PM | Link to this
WHO CARES so much about M. Vick? **Surely the Atlanta Falcons owners will find someone just as talented, or even more talented to be their next QB… and Vick’s name will be totally forgotten in a very short amount of time. Let’s remember, that Premeditated, planned, repeated atrosities are just that: premeditated, planned,repeated schemes to commit crimes for prlofit in this case… CRIMES … no matter how one looks at it, the man commited CRIMES, repeatedly, knowingly and willingly broke the law for profit. He deliiberately chose to break laws and participation in illegal activities, and he got caught. Now “he’s busted”, and he should accept the facts of life: Do the CRIME and you will do the TIME..” that’s how it works in real life…. so, didn’t anyone ever tell Vick that very basic fact of life?
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By Uncle Charlie
August 20, 2007 5:10 PM | Link to this
“How is he going to apologize to the helpless animals he brutalized and killed?”
Oh, please! People still participate in dog fighting to this day in various parts of the country. You don’t know about it because it’s done in the woods behind the trailer parks. Helpless animals that were brutalized, eh? How about the many Indians and Blacks that were brutalized decades ago? What do you say for them Kitty Kat?
By Waldo
August 20, 2007 5:11 PM | Link to this
The dogs were electrocuted, drowned, hung and shot. Enough said. You want to support a “human being” that treats animals like that, go ahead, it says as much about you as it does Micheal Vick.
By Dr. I.Q.
August 20, 2007 5:11 PM | Link to this
W.W.J.D.? Well, if a man gets into a fight and gets his eye gouged out, God will forgive him for fighting, but he’s going to be a one-eyed Christian the rest of his life.
Consequences!
Vick can receive forgiveness for his deplorable actions, but he’s going to suffer consequences that are unbelieveable.
He will never suit up again as a Falcon and I seriously doubt any NFL team will want the aggravation of dealing with Vick.
I’d suggest that he devote himself to working with young people —- at least he could share his experiences and the importance of making right choices.
But, as far as I can see, the wealth and and adoration flew out the window when his homies ratted him out. Please note: his homies sealed his fate. If they’d kept their mouths shut, he’d have gone on denying (lying) about what he had done.
By Dee
August 20, 2007 5:12 PM | Link to this
He is still a star in my book, so no redemption necessary!!!! Luv You Mike Vick!!!!
By Elisa in Duluth
August 20, 2007 5:12 PM | Link to this
Absolutely not. He’s a coward and a thug. That kind of cruelty and indifference to life is shameful. When found out, he couldn’t even be a man and admit what he’d done without being compelled with greater punishment; I’m willing to bet that he’s not sorry for anything he’s done, he’s only sorry he got caught doing it.
By Falcon4Life
August 20, 2007 5:12 PM | Link to this
What is wrong with you people? I was one of those people that said let the process play out and now that it has played out, I see Vick for who he really is, a liar and a thug. All the people trying to bring in other arguments(cop killers, child molestors) save that for another day. It doesn’t take away what this Vick did. Anybody who tries to justify what he did or deflect attention to another issue needs to wake up. It was wrong and he’s going to pay.
By LTX
August 20, 2007 5:12 PM | Link to this
Vick should pay for his acts but right or wrong the black community supports him.We rufuse to see PETA (white people)rip him up.
By SteveO
August 20, 2007 5:12 PM | Link to this
Based on this forum it would appear that “supporting Michael Vick” is strongly correlated with “limited grasp of English language.”
By Doc Reem
August 20, 2007 5:13 PM | Link to this
Yes true enough in the immortal words of Fred G. Sanford M.Vick was a Big Dummy. It makes no sense! But let’s not overdue it with the “these were living creatures” propaganda. Yes they were living creatures that meant him no harm and he killed and used them for sport and pleasure. That’s Dumb especially when noboby at these dogs fights has enough money to really bet with a millionaire anyway. (What could Vick really have gained) But for you guys who think that the Black people on this forum are down playing this whole series of events with Vick just because he’s black you couldn’t be more wrong for the majority of us. Atlanta has never seen a QB with this much potential who actually have us a shot and he just happened to be a Black guy.
There are alot of White people that keep saying that he should be serverely punished and it’s the Law. Saying he should never be allowed to play football again. Saying If he killed animals in this fashion he must be evil. He should be made to pay money to Animal Sociaety right? Saying he should be serverely punished huh! Once again there goes that blind hate that rears it’s ugly head again.
Let’s not forget that alot of you white people did the same thing to millions of BLACK HUMANS less than 150 years ago.(everything M.Vick did to dogs was done to us) YOU DON’T WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT THOUGH DO YOU? Have you or any of your ancesstors done jail time, have you or ancesstors given any reparations to fix what you did, have you had to give up your career for what you did wrong. I’ll answear that for most of you, HELL NAW!
I’m just saying don’t be so quick to condemn this guy and say all Black people are taking up for him and he should be serverly punish and have his life taken away, and he’s evil, etc.
Without looking in the mirror first! Peace…..
By Gary
August 20, 2007 5:13 PM | Link to this
A thug is a thug is a thug….why are people so surprised at this behavior?? It will take something for more severe than this to make him change. Unfortunate but true, don’t hold your breath that he will anytime soon.
By Hellasirrah
August 20, 2007 5:13 PM | Link to this
Vick will have to keep in shape being a year out of the league without taking a snap. It will be hard to return. He probably will be a backup for some team in the league I really doubt a starter.
By TJ
August 20, 2007 5:13 PM | Link to this
Currently, his lack of character will not allow him to redeem himself. He has SO MANY ISSUES, this is just the beginning. He needs lots of professional and personal help and has given up his right to play professional sports due to the fact he has plead guilty to a felony. This is why society has rules and laws. Can any of you continue in your place of legitimate employment with a felony conviction?
By Tired
August 20, 2007 5:13 PM | Link to this
I DO NOT SUPPORT MIKE!!!! What he did was horrible. Dog fighting is horrible and cruel. There is a larger issue here. You are so racist people. One blogger is right - thug has replace n*. Everyone isn’t a thug? What is a thug? I am so tired of you people. Mike isn’t a role model for my family. Personally he hasn’t done anything to deserve that honor. Every black person isn’t an unwed mother. Every black person isn’t uneducated. Every black person isn’t born out of wedlock. Every black person definitely have broken the law. You blue eyed devils are safe to spew your racist comments from the safety of your computers. I wouldn’t be suprised to find out that I work with your - eat lunch with you - even talk to you workday. We are not a threat to you because regardless of what will happen we will continue to succeed. Before you judge and labe us - look at your rapists, child molesters, serial killers, dog-fighters, unwed mothers and b*******.
By Kasey
August 20, 2007 5:14 PM | Link to this
Not that I care that much about Arthur Blank, but if he’s really that humiliated by all this, he needs to go after some of the money and then donate it to a humane society.
As for Vick…meh.
By HOUDAWG
August 20, 2007 5:14 PM | Link to this
As said before, Vick is HISTORY !! And to ” Jimmy ” at top of post ….. so what kind of denial would you use when / if pictures ( that the feds have ) come out showing MV WITH the Dogs ?! HUH ?!
IDIOT !!!
By Dane Hoover
August 20, 2007 5:14 PM | Link to this
For him to redeem himself would take a quality of character he just hasn’t shown - humility. And if he suddenly appeared on talk shows talking about how bad dogfighting is, do you really think anyone would believe him? My opinion is that he is a serious sociopath with not an ounce of conscience. People like that can’t be redeemed.
By jeff
August 20, 2007 5:14 PM | Link to this
Blacks should just shut up, you can’t do anything without whinning. Vick is an idiot, and should go to prison. He’s probably done things to people too, and it will come out.
By Thomas
August 20, 2007 5:14 PM | Link to this
Looks like he’ll be just as good a father as his was never around or in jail seems like a pattern
By WNYsportsfan
August 20, 2007 5:14 PM | Link to this
Sure, he can redeem himself in the eyes of God and his family. But he can stick a fork in his endorsement deals and football career.
This is what refusing to grow up and let go of childish/stupid things will get you. I’m disappointed in the bad judgement he used. Saddened that he didn’t realize he was taking a huge chance for chump change and a macho blood sport. THank goodness I am not a Falcons fan…
And, um, Vic Supporter: I don’t recall casting my vote for you to speak for the African-American community, of which I am a member. Around my way, we are P** at him and are not blaming Peta (ok, a little) or White people (ok, just a smidge). We are blaming stupidity. His. But you go ahead and ride-or-die with your dawg.
By Bob
August 20, 2007 5:15 PM | Link to this
I’d say most folks didn’t even know dog fighting was against the law before this… cruel yes, illegal no. Falcon fans understandably don’t like being left without a starting quarterback while management is still paying the salary (and it counts against NFL salary caps). This may make it more diffcult here. He may be able to make it later in another city. I hope so. And I hope the NFL will take the fact that Mike apparently lied to Falcons management into consideration.
By judge
August 20, 2007 5:15 PM | Link to this
SEPERATE BUT EQUAL aen’t looking so bad is it.
By Denise
August 20, 2007 5:15 PM | Link to this
What better way to say it, “You without sin cast the first stone.” I love how people harshly judge others and never deal with their own issues. Many of you are horrible parents, thieves, liars and miserable people. You stand on the “perfect pedestal” as if your poo doesn’t stink. THUMP…I just pushed you off. Yes, what he did was awful and stupid but EVERYONE deserves another chance to get it right in life. Remember that when your stuff comes out in the open.
By David Duke
August 20, 2007 5:16 PM | Link to this
It is possible for Mike vick to redeem himself! He, however, must change dramatically in order to do it. He’s lied to Mr. Blank, Mr. Goodell, the Falcons staff and to his fans. His word means nothing at this juncture. To regain status as a decent human being he must realize that putting up an acceptable facade is not the same thing as being an honorable man. His time in prison will impress that upon him. As for playing in the NFL again, it’s all behind him now. All the money is gone and no team will ever again take him on. He has only himself to blame and when he can look in the mirror and tell himself he was a terrible person he will take a first step toward salvaging his life. Mike Vick was an athlete. As of next week, he will be a convicted felon. Many people have gone to prison and come out much better people. Some have come out with more problems than they went in with. It’s up to Vick to learn and to become better.
By PD
August 20, 2007 5:16 PM | Link to this
Well - Well I guess the truth finally comes out.
Now I wonder what all the black’s will say now.
This just shows that MV is a Lire and a THUG. If he would have came out in the beginning and stated he was a part of this and he is sorry all this would have been over. But NO all this was made up and he didn’t know anything about it. He wanted to clear his “Good name” Yea, there is nothing about his name that’s good. I guess this just shows that bad apples don’t fall far from the tree. At least his brother didn’t have to go to jail!!! Now watch there will some big rally put on by the NAACP on how the “THE MAN SET HIM UP”
In closing, By By Mr. I want to clear my good name.
By Steven
August 20, 2007 5:16 PM | Link to this
He is a convicted felon and a thug. He lied to the people of atlanta, his employer and himself. He could not even admit what he did until he was forced to. I do not see anyone defending him now. Those of you who want to gloss over this think about how this reflects on the black community, individuals incapable of taking accountability for their actions. Sounds so familiar.
By rarringt
August 20, 2007 5:16 PM | Link to this
Magneto,
My point (which you went to great trouble to sidestep) was that dogfighting is a travesty that is enjoyed by depraved folks, regardless of race.
Vick played a key role, and lots of folks (primarily white, but of all races) watched and bet on the ability of one animal to tear another apart.
Now, the question for you is which sport am I referring to? Dogfighting, football, or the hypocrisy of men and the media?
Did you choose?
Are you sure you’re right?
Or do you need to run it by Rush Limbaugh first?
By Justic
August 20, 2007 5:16 PM | Link to this
Sure he can redeem himself. All he has to do is bring all the murdered dogs back to life and pay the Falcons the $130 million. Simple
By KT
August 20, 2007 5:16 PM | Link to this
Yes, in time.
I am a white, native Atlantan, female, season ticket holder, and I love the Falcons and had always favored Vick. What he is admitting guilt to is hideous, and he should punished severely. During his prison time, he can reflect on his bad choices, horrendous acts and begin healing through forgiveness and therapy. I am sure he is very damaged already, and I feel sorry for him, due to his ignorance. I do not think MV realized the ramifications of these cruel acts.
I agree he should sincerely apologize, give millions to Humane Society, and start the healing process. Then, I will support and forgive.
What a fall from the top this is!!
By AJ
August 20, 2007 5:17 PM | Link to this
Can he redeem himself? I believe that once you make a mistake has large as this and personally suffer from it, you become more humble and you can see change in one’s face. REgarding this guilty plea. My understanding of the law when you accept a plea, you have to accept all that is written in the plea. If there are 10 line items you are admitting to all 10 even if you only participated in 1 of the 10. You have to admit guilt to them all. I would like to believe he sponsored it financially, but did not take part in the killings. Either way we all have done some things that we woudl not want plastered all over the paper so let’s pray this man can get his life together and still have a way to make money for he and his son. Additionally, I believe this issue was out of his hands as soon as PETA got involved and started threating Home Depot, Nike, Reebok and others. This became about corporate America and bottom line profits. I wish him well. I am a season ticket holder and I will be there in my seat and cheering for the team just the same. Any time a team looses a great player you are saddened this is no different for me.
By GG
August 20, 2007 5:17 PM | Link to this
Now you people in Atlanta can go back to not supporting the Falcons fans, like you did before Michael Vick came to town. What fair weather fans you are! They’ll probably be able to give away Falcons tickets by October!!!
By chipdip
August 20, 2007 5:18 PM | Link to this
HURRAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!TIME TO DRINK A COLD ONE AND CELEBRATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!BYE…BYE VICKY-POO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By Nunna Yo Bianezz
August 20, 2007 5:18 PM | Link to this
Thanks my brother!!
All this time i was supporting u and had yo back against all of this rednecks who are only rooting against u because OJ got away (in their terms although he was set up like U)..But,u didn’t fight it..
And for the person who wrote that even the blacks won’t forgive him,u are wrong..We are p** as hell that he gave up and said he is guilty when we supported him thru all of this BS..
Now all i gotta say is,when someone white is looked at as being guilty of a crime of either killing animals or a person and they are of celebrity status,that the feds had better jump on it and investigate with the same intensity..If not,then it shows that this was an all out lynching of Mike Vick and he may have been set up!!
The same get up and go after as they did with Vick..
By kkk
August 20, 2007 5:19 PM | Link to this
When a human being throws away a 130mil$ contract for dog fighting, you got to examine his head to see whats going on before you put them back in society.Pure and Simple. This Stupid,SICK,DUMB,THUG needs a lot of help.Its also possible that his familyneeds help too!!
By ChocolateKisses
August 20, 2007 5:19 PM | Link to this
I am sure by now Vick has came to terms that he made a big mistake,all for the love of the sport (dog fighting) and love of money. He need forgiveness and support, we all have fallen short in some area of our lives. I do not believe in any form of abuse, whether it is human against human or human against animal, neither do I condone it; but I do believe in repentance and forgiveness. Out of fear and embarrassment he may have lied to people and I do believe if any of us was in his shoes we would probably react in the same manner to protect our image. This issue does not have anything to do with racial barriers, because all racial groups have good and evil existing in it. European, Asian, African, Hispanics and most racial group have dog fighting, c** fighting and other activities that constitute gambling and the element of betting. Citizens of Atlanta do not judge him harshly, lend him some compassion and forgiveness and hope that he has learned from this experience. Vick and his family are in my prayers … and I hope that the Falcons and the owners of the Falcons forgive and move on to better things. I hope that from this point that Vick will be more careful about who he associate with and make wiser choices and decisions for his own peace of mind. Everyone have a great day!
By Who Dat Be
August 20, 2007 5:20 PM | Link to this
You know, in Korea they are asking “Why is everyone so upset over food?”
By BIG_GRIP
August 20, 2007 5:20 PM | Link to this
Yes, he can be forgiven.
He’s human and a sinner just like everyone of us…
BUT PLEASE, LET’S NOT FORGET:
The animal cruelty charges are the LESSER of the charges against Vick.
The MAIN charges were the creation of an illegal gambling enterprise and crossing state lines to commit felonies.
If Vick was just fighting dogs in his backyard for fun (and killing a few now and again) the Feds wouldn’t even bother with the case.
Vick was acting like a little gangster, and in the process he violated RICO laws just like a REAL gangster.
This ain’t just about killing some dogs.
By Shawn
August 20, 2007 5:20 PM | Link to this
From listening to the grand jury reports it seems to be all circumstantial evidence and alot of hearsay that makes this a weak case, there are no financial transactions to prove that Vick is behind this. If it was so they would be able to see large cash withdrawals from his bank accounts and where are the gambling sheets linking him. There is no solid evidence in this case the three so called co-defendants probably have criminal records Vick’s defense attorneys could hammer away at them on the stand destroying their credibility and make the prosecution team look stupid. With no solid evidence linking Vick he could easily beat those charges. Vick should maintain his innocence. John Paul Jones quote “don’t give up the ship!”
By adawg
August 20, 2007 5:20 PM | Link to this
Poor Black people! It must be hard to be so ignorant and blindly stand up for someone who admitted his guilt himself. Whitey and The Man really stuck it to’em this time. If your culure is represented by a man like Vick, you even worse off than we thought.
By The Thin Guy
August 20, 2007 5:21 PM | Link to this
Michael Vick killed dogs. So what? Dogs are killed every day at animal shelters and puppy mills because they are not wanted. Did Vick do anything morally different? The methods he used to kill dogs were quick and effective just like the animal shelters. Some people take litters of unwanted puppies and just leave them in a trash dump. What could be crueler than that? Vick can come back if he adds a few phrases to his limited vocabulary such as “I’m sorry,” “I apologize,” etc. He needs to be seen patting dogs. He needs to go to the city pound and save a dog headed for termination. And he needs to stop acting like an anatomical orifice. If the Dallas Saddlebums Michael Irvin who snorted half the cocaine from Columbia and the Baltimore Crows Ray Lewis who kills people rather than unwanted dogs can be forgiven, why not Michael Vick? Wish I had gotten a No 7 T Shirt when they could be had.
By BiteMe
August 20, 2007 5:23 PM | Link to this
Hey, Think about it - Get a clue. Not everything is about race, but apparently it is to you. Just ‘cause you apparently never grew up with love or knowing how to love another creature besides people of your own color or creed, doesn’t mean the rest of us should be that way as well. If you agree that it’s ok to kill innocent animals, then I guess I have no problem with someone wanting to kill and maim YOU! You have no heart, and apparently no SOUL. BITE ME!
By Rusty Lode
August 20, 2007 5:23 PM | Link to this
No. People’s minds are made up about Vick at this point, primarily along racial lines. Nobody will give redemption to him when their heart is so full of hate. White people are like… “OK, you (blacks) got OJ off on a murder wrap, you got Don Imus fired too… But we got your QB and it feels soooo good”.. hahaha
By Koala
August 20, 2007 5:23 PM | Link to this
Redeem himself? Vick could have run over a entire family crossing the road while he was crazy drunk and totally high, and get more sympathy than for what he’s done. He murdered and tortured INNOCENT animals. He is a ghetto monster in every sense of the word. And if I read one more stupid post about him being black and innocent… Of course he is — black people are always framed, right?? LOL!!!
By tyra simms
August 20, 2007 5:23 PM | Link to this
Alicia are you kidding me he is done by the time ie serves his time and then the nfl penatlies kick in it will be 5 or 6 years before mike is eligible to play again by then he will be to old and out of the nfl for too long. he should of just came out from day 1 and say he was quilty and then he had a chance but he lied to the nfl comish so right then he pretty much killed his career. qoute i am quilty he said today so please lets all say he did it and forget the race card people hide behind he admitted today he did it he’s a bad nab!!!! its a priveledge to play in the nfl not a right
By Charlie_RH
August 20, 2007 5:24 PM | Link to this
Vick did not plead guilty to fighting dogs, torturing dogs, killing dogs, or eating dogs. That’s not what he was charged with, so all these inane analogies saying that it was or wasn’t as bad as killing people are worthless.
He was charged with, and pled guilty to conspiracy to violate the law. And by crossing state lines, that makes it a Federal beef.
Why is that so difficult to understand?
By the way, those of you who don’t see any difference between killing dogs or eating a hamburger, call me when you have photos of Vick eating the dogs after the killed them. At least I don’t torture my chickens before I eat them.
By Danny
August 20, 2007 5:24 PM | Link to this
The bottom line is Mike is human just like everybody else. Now you have some activist playing GOD. We must remember that there is no such thing as big sin or little sin. Everybody on this earth is doing some type sin or we would not be here, so let it go and move on. Whatever he did is between him and GOD And it’s really none of our business. We should not be looking up to man anyway. I know people who have murdered another human and had it easier than Vick. I’m not a Vick fan on the football field but I can tell you I will not watch the falcons without him. They are boring and sorry but Vick did give a sorry team a little hope.
By tyra simms
August 20, 2007 5:24 PM | Link to this
Alicia are you kidding me he is done by the time ie serves his time and then the nfl penatlies kick in it will be 5 or 6 years before mike is eligible to play again by then he will be to old and out of the nfl for too long. he should of just came out from day 1 and say he was quilty and then he had a chance but he lied to the nfl comish so right then he pretty much killed his career. qoute i am quilty he said today so please lets all say he did it and forget the race card people hide behind he admitted today he did it he’s a bad man!!!! its a priveledge to play in the nfl not a right
By CDS
August 20, 2007 5:25 PM | Link to this
Hey Vick Supporter,
Don’t you dare try to speak for me as a black person. Not everyone is as blind as you.
And all you ticked off season ticket holders, please get the hell out of the dome and leave it to true Falcons fans that will support the team despite what color the QB is.
Can we now have a stand-up guy like Warrick Dunn be the face of this franchise? Or is he not thuggish enough for some of you supporters?
By Carol
August 20, 2007 5:26 PM | Link to this
He & his friends are pure evil. They took lives in an extremely violent, horrific way, and apparently enjoyed it. Granted, not human- but those dogs all felt immense pain. Wow, imagine if any of these men have children… This all makes me so sick and angry.
By Zeek
August 20, 2007 5:26 PM | Link to this
Dirk6161,
Who is taking resposibility for the crimes against African-Americans? I don’t see you protesting the good ole US of A. Everything is in “black and white” EVERYTHING!
By Dog Lover
August 20, 2007 5:26 PM | Link to this
We shall be judged by how we treat the least among us. Dogs are the most innocent, defenseless, and dependent creatures on Earth. There can be no redemption for criminal savages. Since a civilized society cannot throw him to the dogs, Vick should know humiliation and shame, which pale in comparison to the unspeakable horror to which he subjected precious animals. He should never occupy a position of respect or be in the public eye again.
By David Lee
August 20, 2007 5:27 PM | Link to this
Vick has offended ALL dog lovers and certainly most of other pet lovers. He doesn’t deserve any lenience or kindness in light of his treatment and cruelty to these animals. he deserves the full measure of the law when deciding his sentence.
The best place to punish him is in his wallet ………… take away his career and all the glory. Such a talented jerk ……. what a waste.
By Chris
August 20, 2007 5:28 PM | Link to this
Tigers do not change their stripes. It is funny that Dan Reeves says that he is only 27 years old and people are forgiving. He is an adult people! Anyone who has a disregard for life regardless if human or canine is not capable of full rehabilitation. If someone wants a project, I hope it is not on Blank’s dime (or millions). Arthur has shown though that he has no problem selling his sole to the devil with Vick.
By BRIAN BIRGE
August 20, 2007 5:30 PM | Link to this
The NFL should never allow Vick to play again. If the jail time can be 5 years—he should serve all of it.
By lisa
August 20, 2007 5:30 PM | Link to this
I am black; African American and Mike Vick is in this mess because of Mike Vick. Hopefully he will be able to move on with his life once his debt is paid; not in the NFL I’m sure.
By John Davis
August 20, 2007 5:31 PM | Link to this
Okay, so now we know Michael Vick, aka: Ookie, Ron Mexico, or MV7 will not be returning to the Falcons anytime soon. I’m very hopeful though the Mr. Blank and Mr. McKay will take a look at another free agent quarterback. I’m told that Marcus Vick is still available!
By Eugene
August 20, 2007 5:32 PM | Link to this
I believe all God’s Creatures deserve compassion. But it seems to me that the penalty is a bit harsh. He does deserve punishment, but they were his dogs. If he takes them to animal control they would have gassed them. Is that more humane. I doubt it. Mike needs to take responsibility for his actions and grow up. He has made mistakes, and now he has a chance to redeem himself and turn his life around. Let’s hope he can.
By Vick Supporter
August 20, 2007 5:33 PM | Link to this
White people have so much hatred.
By Son
August 20, 2007 5:33 PM | Link to this
Joe “I’m a clueless retard” Horn just said on ESPN that he “still RESPECTS Michael Vick.” AND…that he “wants him to be the Falcons QB.”
The guys lies to the team, the organization, the NFL and to the fans and the guy still RESPECTS Vick!
Damn that dude is f-ing stupid.
By SCJack
August 20, 2007 5:34 PM | Link to this
He got what he deserved. Besides,he was the 31st rated qb in the NFL last year.He can run, but he can’t hide.
By Football Fanatic
August 20, 2007 5:34 PM | Link to this
It is really funny that some of you people still think he is not guilty. You think he was “set up”. The low life has admitted he did it DO YOU HEAR ME HE ADMITTED IT!!! Some people will pull the race card no matter what the facts are and those people are just admitting they are as stupid as Vick is! It’s 2007 people and athletes need to just come clean like the rest of us have to when you break the law. The race card is sooo overplayed these days it is downright comical. All of your lame excuses are going to fall on deaf ears! You have seen the last of your hero on the Atlanta Falcons because he was an idiot so just get over it!
By Justine
August 20, 2007 5:34 PM | Link to this
Isnt it ironic there is all this uproar about the death of dogs. PETA wanted to give 40 years to 2 kids under 18 for killing a dog. I wish PETA would have raised this type of concern when white Atlanta Police Officers received less than 12 years for the murder of a 92 year old black woman, lying about it,lying to a judge and planting drugs in her home. But then again, she was just a Black woman living a law abiding life in her home.
By Billperk
August 20, 2007 5:34 PM | Link to this
No, he will never be able to redeem himself now. Though there are some diehards out there who will defend him in spite of any evidence (read OJ). He will never play pro-ball again, never have another sponsor, never sell another product, and eventually be broke and unemployable.
By hell's kitchen guy
August 20, 2007 5:34 PM | Link to this
The first thing he needs to do is to reach out to PETA and offer his services as a spokesperson. that would show TRUE humility.
as for those people who say that the attention to this devalues human life: We should remember that domestic animals are sensate beings that feel emotions such as pain and devotion but are otherwise helpless against humans - unlike other adults humans. Thus, to betray that trust is, IMHO, even worse. (that holds true for very young children as well.)
and I don’t condone hunting and I’m a vegetarian - for reasons spelled out above. But even if you are a carnivore and hunt, there is a difference from taking a loving, trusting domestic animal and perverting that to hatred and abuse.
By Dandy Don Meridith
August 20, 2007 5:35 PM | Link to this
Sorry, Hoss, but you can “Turn out the lights, the party’s over… .”
By marcus3x
August 20, 2007 5:35 PM | Link to this
It is amazing how much hate whites can have for vick over dogs but remain silent when humans were done wrong in hurricane katrina and the kathryn johnston shooting. if dany heatley can get a second chance after killing a man why can’t vick get a second chance? i guess the dog is the white man’s best friend.
By Chris
August 20, 2007 5:36 PM | Link to this
This is a tragic situation for Vick and his family. His behavior has been awful since he became a household name at VT, so why are we surprised? The most disappointing aspect of this is what I have observed here in these postings. About 80% of those supporting Vick have grammar errors throughout there posting, only demonstrating the sad fact that those who havent had a the opportunity for a good education choose people such as Vick as roll models. Perhaps the next pro athlete will be a better roll model but that is doubtful.
By SloppyJoe
August 20, 2007 5:36 PM | Link to this
I am still puzzled how a person with a $100+ million dollars and a career that could reward him even more would choose to invest in dogfighting , words cannot express the utter ridiculousness of the situation and what it has cost Mr Vick . a few years down the road when all these events are digested Mr Vick’s decisions will be seen as a total lapse in common sense and judgement . His rehabiltation is in his hands and it can happen , but he has to show extroadanery honesty and character from here on out , it may not lead to an NFL re-do but wouldn’t he rather be known as a good person who made a mistake in the past.
By jm
August 20, 2007 5:37 PM | Link to this
Not in this town. Michael Vick sold out the city, the state and the entire Falcon franchise its legacy and its place in history. Arthur Blank trusted him and the fans wanted to believe him. He is guilty guilty guilty. Hope he gets a lifetime ban and plays on in Canada. Good ridance #7. Hope we never see you again and you never get a $1 from my pocket.
By vick fan_4life
August 20, 2007 5:37 PM | Link to this
nevermind what people say the man made a mistake its not the end of the world i hope he bounces back and rips the falcons apart. nobody is perfect and nobody has room to judge this man. nobody judged bobby cox when he got drunk and beat his wife, nobody judged patrick kerney when the girl was raped in his house so leave the judgement to GOD. mike you still have fans out here bounce back and cant wait to see you back on the field. and for the falcons in the words or rob snyder from the movie waterboy ” oh no we suck again”
By vick fan_4life
August 20, 2007 5:37 PM | Link to this
nevermind what people say the man made a mistake its not the end of the world i hope he bounces back and rips the falcons apart. nobody is perfect and nobody has room to judge this man. nobody judged bobby cox when he got drunk and beat his wife, nobody judged patrick kerney when the girl was raped in his house so leave the judgement to GOD. mike you still have fans out here bounce back and cant wait to see you back on the field. and for the falcons in the words of rob snyder from the movie waterboy ” oh no we suck again”
By enick755
August 20, 2007 5:38 PM | Link to this
I do find it a bit ironic that Arthur Blank and Rich McKay came back from an African safari where they hunted and killed animals.
By American European
August 20, 2007 5:38 PM | Link to this
When he gets out he’ll be Mohammed X.Vick sportin’a bow tie
By Jack
August 20, 2007 5:40 PM | Link to this
Michael Vick:
Lied to the NFL Commissioner. Lied to Falcon’s Owner Arthur Blank. Lied to all his fans. Starved dogs. Hung dogs up to trees and lynched them. Electrocuted dogs. Shot dogs. Tied them to “rape stands”. Was the financial force behind YEARS of cruelty to dogs (mult-state dog fighting). Engaged in illegal gambling (a big NFL violation)
How do you redeem yourself from this kind of behavior. The person who does these things is so cruel in spirit, do you think they magically “get better”?
Vick should go to jail for a VERY long time - David Ray Tant a WHITE MAN is in jail for 40 years for dogfighting.
And NEVER be allowed to play football.
“I dream of a time when a man will be judged by his character, not the color of his skin” - Martin Luther King
By A-ville Ranger
August 20, 2007 5:40 PM | Link to this
Vick’s actions should in no way reflect badly on the black community.The shameful support by what appears to be most blacks should and does however.I’m white and was raised in a small Ga town in the 60s.There were 10 in my family (8 kids).In 1965 my mother worked as a cook in a downtown diner to make ends meet.Freedom riders came in one day but none of the waitress’ would serve them.My mom first cooked the food then served them. This took both moral and physcal courage as any who lived in this area at that time knows.I hope more blacks come foreward to show courage and right thinking by condemning these sadistic acts….As for all the David Duke slime ball types please don’t think I support you or any of your backwards thinking ideas.
By european hater
August 20, 2007 5:41 PM | Link to this
yeah, he will be forgiven in the sight of god. Man dont have any thought process of convicting anyone. look at what the white europeans have done in the 1800’s-up to Now. They have robbed, killed, raped dogs, sheep, etc and still getting away with things thru the corrupted legal system. Vick brought excitement to the NFL. Without good talent mostly black, these leagues would be boring and no one would come out to see them. That includes MLB AND NBA. Most white americans love this day, but guess what one of yours will go down.
By David
August 20, 2007 5:41 PM | Link to this
In my eyes, Michael Vick was a horrible person when he did not come forward and offer help and hope to the victims of the Virginia Tech massacre! That was his school!! I’m an animal lover, and no one should be forgiven for drowning, electrocuting, and hanging man’s best friend!!
By James B. Dawson
August 20, 2007 5:41 PM | Link to this
It’s gonna be tough. If he had bellied up when first accused, admitted to the truth like a man and shown some remorse, not for having been caught but for having committed the crime, he would have had a better chance. To me, lying about it in the face of the inevitible truth is almost worse that dog fighting. Does he think the world is stupid or does he just think his celebrity status gives him one up on beating the charge. You can kill your ex wife and her friend and get away with it but you’d better not expect jury nullification if you have abused animals, not in this country any way.
By mj
August 20, 2007 5:42 PM | Link to this
It’s sad that the ATL has such uncultured, ignorant and uneducated people that continue to think that race is the problem with this Vick CRIME and still support him! It just doesn’t matter which race it was that committed these stupid and unnecessary crimes, it just shouldn’t have happen to someone in his important position as a leader for our town. NO MATTER WHAT RACE. He’s a THUG. And regardless of race, the people in the ATL shouldn’t look stupid to the rest of the world by supporting this loser of a person.
By American European
August 20, 2007 5:42 PM | Link to this
He is a victim of a racist society and should be giving a free pass like OJ
By LaterVick
August 20, 2007 5:43 PM | Link to this
Are we seriously going to ask this question? Vick doesn’t have to redeem himself for this…He was only relevant as a football player for the Falcons, now that he will be gone who cares if he redeems himself. I’m tired of all the people taking his back for this, saying it’s aweful how this happened to him…It didn’t happen to him!!! His stupid, thuggish actions caused this. If we had a real legal system, his punishment would be to let the dogs he had fighting for him, tear him apart like the piece of crap he is.
By shee23
August 20, 2007 5:44 PM | Link to this
First I’ll like to start off by asking this. Is Ray Lewis still playing, is Leonard Little still playing, is Jamal Lewis still playing, is Randy McMicheal still playing? The answer is Yes, they are. R. Lewis involved in a DOUBLE homicide,(2 humans) J.Lewis involved in Drug deals, L.Little vehicular Mangslaghter (Human being) and still was driving drunk afterwards, R. McMicheal domestic violence against his wife. Wow, Vick’s crime is bad, but like all the others he should be given a 2nd chance. This is his first time. I’m a dog lover and I would allow him to play for my team if I owned one. If Blank is so worried about his image, then one big move would be to have a forgiven one.
By jane
August 20, 2007 5:44 PM | Link to this
“yeah……..right”
By Leon
August 20, 2007 5:45 PM | Link to this
Michael was just set up by a bunch of those thugs, after the government offered them a deal. He should have fought these charges and beat them in court, like OJ. The racist prosecutors are once again trying to persecute a successful black man. It’s the plantation mentality all over again.
By CHARLES J HARDING
August 20, 2007 5:48 PM | Link to this
FOR GIVE AND FOR GET. LET US MOVE ON. FOR GIVE ALL WHO LIE AND CHEAT, ABOUT DOGS AND WAR
By Rachelle
August 20, 2007 5:49 PM | Link to this
There is some self-righteousness being promoted out here. All the folks espousing values and concerned for life animal and human alike and then in the same breath turn around a call for the “death, crucifixation and alienation of one human being. ” Whoever among us who is without Sin cast the first stone… ” It is about race because if Michael Vick were a white athlete all support would be towards a slap on the wrist on this thing would have been handled ” way on the downlow” Please be reminded that the Constitution of these United States considers a black man only 3/5 human therefore the scales of justice are always imbalanced against us. I am black I am a Pit Bill dog owner and lover and support Michael Vick the man because were it left up to you haters he would be hanging from a tree. I thank GOD that none of you are GOD. Fear not what man can do but remember all sin is against GOD and only He has the Power to forgive and holds the Keys to Heavens gate. Michael Vick will be well because you Paranas will have fresh meat here shortly because this crazy nation keeps a fresh scandal. He pled guilty so the blood thirsty could begin to look elsewhere for fresh meat. You haters are worse than Dog-fighters. You are Men-Killers
By squeezeplay
August 20, 2007 5:52 PM | Link to this
any man can come back in God’s eyes. football or not. the only eyes that matter. i prey from mike and his family.
By J.T.
August 20, 2007 5:52 PM | Link to this
Have you ever seen how black men handle their dogs ? Ever notice that their dog of choice is most often a pit bull,chow,doberman,german shepheard ? They have a common bond : Anger.Visciousness. If you did a racial breakdown of PETA members,I bet more than 97 % of them are white,flower children types.Black men are not very compassionate,don’t really care about the rights of animals,or humans(hence prison population statistics).The truth of it is in Atlanta,Georgia is that most black people in that city would like to see white people ‘locked up’,guilty or innocent.They carry a ‘chip’ on their shoulder,have not recovered from slavery,use this chip to remain ‘unnaccountable’,play the race card.’Get over yourselves,it’s 2007’.They will not step up and stop violence.That’s what the real discussion is all about with them.They want to continue to get away with pulling s**t.I say we get Barack Obama in on this issue.How would he see it, in all fairness ?
By NASDAQ
August 20, 2007 5:53 PM | Link to this
Thomas, the term “African American” honors our heritage. Our ancestors were from Africa if you didn’t know that.
By Fair play
August 20, 2007 5:53 PM | Link to this
It just shows how messed up this society is..Everybody is acting like Mike Vick just killed 26 human beings…For crying out loud can you compare how many kids(and adults) have been mauled by pit bulls over the last year..No!!!! Because PETA don’t want you to know about that!!! Ohhh and don’t you think human fighting(Boxing,Kick boxing,street fighting)is just as immoral as dogfighting…We pay high dollars(even bet) to see somebody get there head knocked off!!!!…Wake up America!!!!
By Sandy
August 20, 2007 5:53 PM | Link to this
I realize what Vick did was wrong; however, I’m amazed at the public’s response. You seem to care more about dogs than you do about people. Would you be this outraged if he killed a black man? The answer is likely…no. I don’t condone Vick’s behavior, but the consequence is too great. Vick my thoughts and prayers are with you.
By montanadawg
August 20, 2007 5:54 PM | Link to this
Vick is an idiot. Those were innocent animals trained to kill and be killed. I hope he rots in hell
By dragnslr
August 20, 2007 5:56 PM | Link to this
Yes he can redeem hisself with time and good actions that show he truly knows he made a mistake.But if you think this is a big conspirecy by the NFL,FBI,or whoever because he is a black QB then why havent they gone after Mcnabb,who is a much better QB then vick,or any of the other black QB’s in the nfl?can’t answer that can you?
By Allysa
August 20, 2007 5:56 PM | Link to this
Had Michael come clean when this first came out I would say maybe. Michael lied and acted like he knew nothing about it. I say NO now. He needs to fade into the sunset.
By juscooln1
August 20, 2007 5:57 PM | Link to this
God knew peter would give him up to hang on the cross, but he forgave him anyway. This world should practice more on forgiving, and we would be a lot better off in these times. As for mike be sencere God will listen to your prayers, God listen to the sinner on the cross next to him and really did DIRT, and forgave him also. Those without sin cast the first stone !! I will pray for YOU.
By caz
August 20, 2007 5:58 PM | Link to this
I keep reading of examples of other types of incidents involving other people. What most of you that are trying to relate Mike Vick with these others fail to realize is that this is about Mike Vick!!!!!!!not these other people or situations!!!! The man broke the Law and Lied about it!!!How can you condone it. Talk about the facts of this case, the others do not have a place here!
By enick755
August 20, 2007 5:58 PM | Link to this
I sent a comment over 15 minutes ago. Why hasn’t it been posted? Why hasn’t anyone said anything about Arthur Blank and Rich McKay and their African hunting safari? Hey, PETA they were out cruelly killing innocent animals!
By Big Billy
August 20, 2007 5:58 PM | Link to this
To Swatlanta:
You need to clean up your culture. You, and it, are sick.
By dturman
August 20, 2007 5:58 PM | Link to this
He is a child of God just as we all are. Some of you ignorant people act as if you have never sinned or fallen short. We fall down but we can get back up again. God is a forgiving God. If Ray Lewis can come back after a murder trial & Jamal Lewis can come back after serving federal prison time for drugs, surely Vick can get a 2nd chance. We are talking about pitbulls-the most vicious dog their is. Where is PETA & the other animal rights activist when this same breed of dog has mauled & killed humans? Talking about being hypocrits. My heart hurts for Michael as a human being. Forget that he is a football player, he is a human being first. The only person any of us should worship & idolize is God. Thou shalt have no other God’s before me—according to scripture. Where were you so called Falcons fans before the Vick era when they couldn’t give away a ticket to a Falcons game? Give credit where credit is due, the man sold out the dome. He made Falcons football exciting. To Mike Vick, just remember that God is a God of a second chance.
By Adam
August 20, 2007 5:59 PM | Link to this
To Sloan: Getting angry and calling African Americans names isn’t going to help you prove your point. To some of you who have posted: I hope that some of you aren’t calling yourself a Christian. Forgiving someone else for their sins is part of being a good Christian. If you can not do that, you are falling short of your goal to be closer to God. Vick needs to pray and ask God to forgive him for his sins. And then he needs to try to piece his life back together one day at a time. Also he may have to accept the fact that he may never play football again. If he’s allowed to play again, he should thank God for the opportunity. As for his “friends”, let this be a lesson to future NFL stars. You’re going to have to be much more selective of what you do and where you go with some of your friends. You know who likes to act a fool when you go out. Leave him at home.
By Ike
August 20, 2007 5:59 PM | Link to this
” I could care less about the dogs that died.”
well, unfortunately for you the laws of the US government and the Federal agents who enforce those laws do.
By Jimmy
August 20, 2007 6:00 PM | Link to this
There really are “thugs” out there in the world.
And they are PROUD to be thugs.
And guess what, white people didn’t create them.
Nobody held Tupac down so that “THUG LIFE” could be tattooed across his stomach.
The black community needs to ask itself why all these young black millionaires want to emulate gangsters, pimps, and players.
WHY IS THAT?
By bobbie
August 20, 2007 6:02 PM | Link to this
No because he is not going to do the jail time he should be getting, he is getting the superstar treatment. When he serves his time, my opinion, about 40 years, then maybe, but since he wont. NO NO NO!!! No excuse and anyone defending him is just as quilty as he is. He is a thug, if he wasnt a football player you would not allow him around your children or animals. What if he would have done this to your dog?
By Santa Clause
August 20, 2007 6:03 PM | Link to this
All I know is that he isnt getting anything from me this year!!
By NASDAQ
August 20, 2007 6:03 PM | Link to this
Jeff, what’s your problem? Did you loose your hood at the klan rally last night? What an ignorant b*******.
By Lee
August 20, 2007 6:03 PM | Link to this
No, Michael Vick can never redeem himself. There is NO excuse for the horrific crimes he committed. He’s a vicious, filthy-dirty, lying, violent, soul-less, piece of garbage MONSTER. He and his thug friends will never be adequately punished for their crimes. WHITE OR BLACK, this crime is indefensible and all who participate will BURN IN HELL.
By JP
August 20, 2007 6:03 PM | Link to this
Vick should not have blown off Congress. As horrible as the crimes are, do you really think the Feds would naturally commit the resources to this case. No way - Vick p** off somebody really important that called in some favors. The Man brought him down but Vick put the noose around his own neck.
By JBird
August 20, 2007 6:04 PM | Link to this
Michael Vick has owned up to his crime (even though pressured by the plea bargains of his partners), and that is more than I can say for most of us. Let him serve his time, and when he gets out, we should wipe the record clean. Martha Stewart is back using her talents to make millions, so should Michael Vick.
By Phildo
August 20, 2007 6:04 PM | Link to this
Who cares? Maybe his mother. Had absolutely everything and blew it on nickle and dime garbage for what, to impress his worthless posse, who rolled over on him in heartbeat? A great athlete, a lousy QB, and fatally flawed as a human being. Let’s face it. The guy is moron.
By Augusta
August 20, 2007 6:05 PM | Link to this
NO! I only wish O.J. was in the adjacent cell. Both are SCUM!
By Rachelle
August 20, 2007 6:05 PM | Link to this
Like I said before the term thug is now the new “N” word I dont care what the formal definition is. Whiteys are now using it to be safe in expressing themselves while Black people use it as a term of endearment as we once used the banned N—- word. And “yes” I am racist, so what, crucify me. You call me racist or think that I am because you are. being called racist doesnt bother me. We know how to finesse life. “Haters”
By caz
August 20, 2007 6:05 PM | Link to this
The sad truth is Mike Vick was/is an average quarterback at best. An exciting football player yes,but a 50% completion rate and just barely better than 50% won/lost record. Unfortunately excitement does’nt equate into shrine in the hall of fame. Is a fun to watch,heck yeah. But a Great quarterback-No. Sorry
By Steve
August 20, 2007 6:05 PM | Link to this
Micheal is done in the NFL and should be. It’s time for him to own up to what he has done. So far he has not done this. He needs to do time for his crime.
By Silent Ted
August 20, 2007 6:05 PM | Link to this
To some folks, “Vick” and “Vicktim” are the same thing. For brutally killing some of God’s most special creatures, for gambling, and for lying—he’ll never again be respected by decent people and will never again play in the NFL.
By Adam
August 20, 2007 6:06 PM | Link to this
* Jeff, if you don’t have something nice or productive to say, don’t say anything at all.* By the way, white people whine just as much as black people supposedly do. This blog alone features plenty of white people whining about reverse racism. If it’s not that, they’re whining about all of the things that the mean black people won’t let them do anymore.
By Jay
August 20, 2007 6:06 PM | Link to this
Let’s just all pray that he repents, confess his sins, ask God and everyone he has offended to forgive him … and hopefully we can all move on!!!! This has been very draining and painful.
By Ralph
August 20, 2007 6:07 PM | Link to this
I just read where one wrote that “he didn’t kill a human”, this person just doesn’t get it, a person who kills a man or animals for the joy of killing, is a very sick individual. Yes it’s sad that more attention is pay to any athletic, from O.J. to any one who have broken the law and gotten away with it. The 3 students killing execution-style shooting in new jersey, is another example what type of people are out there, an inhuman and unforgiving act of a spineless, and a sadist mined. No Vick didn’t kill a human, and no one said he did or he ever would. But how can a human enjoy electrocuting or drown a dog for the joy of it, or because the dogs didn’t perform up to par. If Vick had a bad game which he has, and to punish him, he would receive electrical shock, he would be barking everywhere. So let him pay the piper, and maybe he’s young enough to learn a lesson and get his life back to normal if he every had one.
By Grant
August 20, 2007 6:08 PM | Link to this
Forgiveness is a word that is going to be thrown around a lot in relation to this story in the coming weeks. Depending on Vick’s course of action in that same time period, forgiveness should be granted. If Vick come out, truly shows remorse for what he did, realizes how wrong, disgusting…(fill in your own adjective)… this is, and asks for the forgiveness of the fans, the city, and the league, then I think that could very well start a much needed healing process that would benefit everyone. All we need now, is for Vick to handle this badly, and essentially pour more gasoline on the fire that is on the verge of an inferno.
By KHAKI - BLACKIE
August 20, 2007 6:09 PM | Link to this
Mike Vick’s turmoil came from the lack of manners…etiqutte…or what some would call HOME TRAINING. Everything from the ghetto isn’t cool. If it was everyone wouldn’t be trying to move out. This is notTHEUNITED STATES of HIP-HOP/RAP.You and all other people BETTER RECOGNIZE. Open your eyes and a book and search for that which is good and respectful in your life as you walk through it. There are 300 million people in the UNITED STATES. There have to be rules so that we all can have a chance for an enjoyable life.Stop worshipping self,power,money and the things money can buy.There were people like Frederick Douglas,the Black regiment (MASSACHUSETTS 54th)from the Civil War,the Tuskegee Airmen,Rosa Parks,Harriet Tubman and Martin Luther King who put all on the line so Black people can be educated and afforded opportunities to be all that God Blessed us with gifts to be. To live in the depths of arrogance,greed,disrespect and disciple of the NEGATIVE HIP-HOP/RAP CULTURE is an insult to the dignity and bloodshed by our honorable AFRICAN AMERICAN ANCESTORS whose only joy was invisioning a day when their children could be what was only an unanswered prayer in their own suffering lives.Praise the Lord for their HONOR and all those who revere their unselfish love and sacrifice. They made it possible for so much….even being a multi-million dollar athlete who doesn’t feel like representing AFRICAN AMERICAN DIGNITY.
By Steve
August 20, 2007 6:09 PM | Link to this
Think about it, did not take you long to start playing the race card did it? Very sad that the black community cannot own up to the fact that this man did something very wrong but because he is a black man then he is being framed. Keep going through life with your head buried in the sand. It will get you as far as it did this man.
By Hope
August 20, 2007 6:11 PM | Link to this
PLEASE get VICK out of there… His character has definitely been under scrutiny with the string of inappropriate and / or questionable behavior. The latest allegation is simply disheartening for the humane treatment of any animal subjected to the cruel unnecessary practice of dog fighting. Vick should be punished with the maximum punishment allowable by law and he should be removed from the spotlight of the youth and public that once looked up to him.
By realist
August 20, 2007 6:11 PM | Link to this
I’ve seen some people who are still trying to defend vick. people like “Alicia” who put in all caps at the bottom, “Vick Supporter” have some issues. to support someone who not only fights and wagers on the deaths of defenseless animals but also takes part in killing them is THE worst thing you can do short of killing a human. “Alicia” said she doesn’t care about dogs and doesn’t give a (expletive) about what we think; i’m wondering if a person could be a little more shallow. i’m not sure.
Then a supposed Vick supporter says that the Falcons aren’t anything without Vick and we know it. Now the Falcons won’t be able to give a ticket away. Ok, this person is also not extremely smart. 1st off, the NFL is a giant and will sell tickets regardless of what Michael Vick does, maybe not as many, but one person doesn’t make the NFL or a team. 2ndly, he said the Falcons would be sorry and would pay for it??? as i see it, i think Vick is the one who is going to pay here. Because Vick IS going to jail whether you support him or not. At the end of the day, the NFL is moving on and will continue to operate; or at least that’s how i understand things to work.
Last point, one person says to not judge Vick for pleading guilty b/c we have no idea what went into that decision. Well one thought would be he decided on that b/c well, he IS GUILTY and the reason he pleaded out is becuase he knew the court would find him guilty and get an even longer sentence and fine. See, that’s how that works.
I find it wild how some people will support someone down to the end just because they can play sports very well. Nothing else to them matters. They guy did an unspeakable crime whether you think it is or not. It’s not a crime for no reason. The precedents are set forth for a reason.
I still see people trying to make this into a racial issue. That also is shallow and ludicrous. It’s just like supporting him b/c you’re a Falcons fan; some people think they have to support him b/c he’s black. I never have supported a white kidnapper, rapist, or someone who kills endagered species to compare apples to apples just b/c they’re white. Reason: it’s wrong! It’s funny how some people can’t wrap their heads around that. I honestly think some people would support Vick if he killed a human and the craziest things of all is they’d find a way to justify it.
Bottom line- if you can find a way to defend Vick, you really need to sit back and look at your life and assess where you are check your morals and blind faith in someone. michael vick is not a good guy, his brother is not a good guy. does he deserve forgiveness and a second chance? yes. but you see the thing is you have to ask for it. God will for sure and maybe i will someday too. I tell you who won’t; the State of Virginia. and rightfully so.
By Toreanna
August 20, 2007 6:11 PM | Link to this
ARE YOU SERIOUS…THIS A TALENTED BALL PLAYER!!!! MICHAEL BROUGHT EXCITEMENT TO ATLANTA…HE IS THE ONLY PLAYER THE FALCONS HAS HAD TO FILL AND SELL OUT THE DOME!!!! EVERYBODY HAS THE RIGHT TO A SECOND CHANCE. DIDN’T YOU GET A SECOND CHANCE? IF THEY LET VICK GO FROM THE NFL…THEY WILL LOOSE MONEY, GREAT TALENT, AND FANS!!! TRUST ME WHEN I SAY WHERE EVER VICK GOES HIS FANS WILL FOLLOW, NO MATTER WHERE AND WHO HE PLAYS FOR OR WITH!!!
By angela
August 20, 2007 6:11 PM | Link to this
I don’t know if Michael Vick can redeem himself but hopefully the NFL and the media can by giving the same attention that the Michael Vick case has gotten to other professional athletes who beat and abuse women and hang out with known criminals. Animal cruelty is horrible but I think its interesting that this dog fighting ring has garnered more attnention than crimes these athletes commit against other people.
By TheFactt
August 20, 2007 6:12 PM | Link to this
Let’s talk about the facts and quit crying about this case being about race. I don’t hear any white people talking about the NBA referee was targeted because he is white. Let’s talk about Mike Vick and his gang bangers stealing a Rolex out of another passengers belongings, Mike Vick transmitting Herpes then lying about it, Mike Vick smuggling marijuana, and then Mike Vick flicking off (Black Fans) in Atlanta. Mike Vick and his gang banger friends (so called drug dealing, gun token, gambling idiots that all turned on him. Oh they were all black. I think it’s funny that only in a black city like Atlanta you find people bringing up the race issue.
By Chris
August 20, 2007 6:14 PM | Link to this
Ha ha ha! NAACP, SCLC, other racist groups, where are you now? Where are those protests? Looks like he IS guilty after all huh? Just another darky athlete getting in trouble. Funny how white athletes rarely get into trouble. Hey afro people, you will have to cheer for a white QB now, can you handle it? May Vick burn in hell.
By Pit Bulls
August 20, 2007 6:16 PM | Link to this
Never, no one who does this should be allowed in free society, hang him in the public square, spare us all.
By arichey
August 20, 2007 6:16 PM | Link to this
Man please this country is such a hypocrite.Mike will do a little time and the idiotic nation of ours will go back and find something else to go after.Important to send a message to vick?Really how about Leonard Little of the rams mowing somebody down while drunk and getting an 8 game suspension.wow only in dumb america can we condem somebody for dog fighting will human death is now second on the humanity chain wow!!!!!
By Deebo
August 20, 2007 6:17 PM | Link to this
Too many crimes have been committed by athletes—vehicular homicide, homicide or alleged homicide, drug charges, gambling etc for anyone to say that Vick cannot redeem himself. Yes, he lied, but what person caught up, who is trying to save his neck and career, doesn’t start off lying. Most people do. We all need to stop calling him a thug, stop playing the race card, and stop judging him. Vick is not for us to judge; judging him is reserved for a much higher power!!!! Let’s stop the hate and hope that he earns from his mistakes and finds some better associates!!!
By Mr. D
August 20, 2007 6:17 PM | Link to this
Of course he can redeem himself. Although what he did was very wrong, he still didn’t take a human life. He definately should show remorse by making a public apology and make donations to the animal rights groups. And lets be real here, Mike Vick has sold out stadiums his whole life. Always has and always will which means he will play in the NFL again and rightfully so. Many players in all professional sports have been convicted of assaulting women, drunk driving and many other crimes and are still allowed to play. And Mike Vick should be given the same opportunity. And if he shows remorse for what he has done I would like to see him back with the Falcons
By ajw
August 20, 2007 6:18 PM | Link to this
If Woody Allen can redeem himself, why in the heck can’t Vic. Woody Allen slept with his underage adopted daughter, divorceed Mia, and then when the daughter came of age married her and had a child. And still makes those goffy movies that you all love and stand in line to see, yes movies by a man who slept with an underage girl. how about that race card white america.
By Artie
August 20, 2007 6:18 PM | Link to this
No way!!!! It’s obvious that he’s NOT remorseful in any way. When is he going to man-up and speak for himself??? He needs to stop issuing statements through his attorneys (we all know damn well that these statements are written by his attorneys because he doesn’t know any big words). The people need to see and hear him speak his OWN words (even if they are difficult to understand)!!!! BTW…that was a nice, brief career you HAD in the NFL.
By Bill
August 20, 2007 6:19 PM | Link to this
Sure he can redeem himself just not with the Falcons. Oh and by the way Terrance Moore who spoke on espn you are an idiot, do yourself a favor and do not speak for the people in GA!!!
By Jermaine E. Osgood
August 20, 2007 6:20 PM | Link to this
Hell no! His reputation is shot! Que lastima!
By BGR
August 20, 2007 6:22 PM | Link to this
Yeah, everyone deserves a second chance — unless you don’t demonstrate the proper tenacity for fighting. Then? Better hope Michael VIck doesn’t decide your fate.
By Doctor H
August 20, 2007 6:22 PM | Link to this
I think he should be able to play again when he is 70. Seriously though.. If he plays again I am done with the NFL for life. I will speak of it only as a bunch of savage animals. I bet all that Vick has learned from this is that if he wants to enjoy torture and blood again he should buy a mansion in Argentina so he can continue his perversion. He blew it, he’s mentally ill, he’s unfit to be the hero of a bunch of kids, or adults for that matter. Should we wait till he moves up to torturing people? He would clearly enjoy it. Ban him for life or the NFL is out of mine forever
By Lowcountry Bulldawg
August 20, 2007 6:22 PM | Link to this
Sylivia Williams,
Its sad that a black man in America catches hell? What? He is a criminal. Should he get a free pass to kill animals just because he is Michael Vick and black? Your statment shows a lack of intelligence.
As a white male I am tired of being labeled rascist just because I have an opinion about a young black male who has committed a crime. I am an American an entitled to my OPINION. You may disagree with it,but do not not the easy way out and label me a rasicst.
By kp
August 20, 2007 6:23 PM | Link to this
I just love these guys who are worried about black-outs and a return to the Falcons of old.
These are the same kind of guys Vick surrounded himself with in the first place. These guys protest an injustice — but they are worried a football team and its impact on them. Not on Michael Vick.
By Lisa
August 20, 2007 6:24 PM | Link to this
Although redemption is tough for me to see, especially being the proud mother to two rescued pitbulls, I will defer to the espn.com article I read the other night by Gene Wojciechowski and a conversation he had with the President of the Atlanta Humane Society…
“Vick could write a check. Something in the two commas, six-zero variety. It wouldn’t bring back the dogs that were allegedly tortured and killed at Bad Newz, but it would save others. The AHS (Atlanta Humane Society) has an annual operating budget of about $4.5 million. It cares for about 400 animals, including about 200 dogs. A Michael Vick Endowment Fund of, say, $5 million, would help bankroll the AHS for the next 20 years. Now that’s a legacy.
By Disgusted
August 20, 2007 6:24 PM | Link to this
Vick is a SICK, DEMENTED man. Anyone who enjoys pitting dogs against each other for profit is twisted and should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. Anyone who thinks this poor excuse of a man deserves a 2nd chance or to be forgiven is clearly ignorant. Vick knew what he was doing was not only illegal but unethical at best. Do you really want the QB of your football team to be a degenerate? I would hope not. Atlanta, now is the time to prove to the country that you will not allow such a disgrace to occcur in your own city.
By Jay Black
August 20, 2007 6:24 PM | Link to this
I hope Arthur can still sell tickets. Because he won’t without Vick! He’ll be back strong in ‘08. And wherever he plays, I’ll be watching that game.
By WHOANELLIE
August 20, 2007 6:25 PM | Link to this
HEY, IS THAT JJJOOOEEE FROM THE ATLANTA FALCONS MESSAGE BOARDS YEARS AGO? I GUESS YOU FEEL VINDICATED, I THINK YOU WERE THE FIRST VICK HATER.
By dozier
August 20, 2007 6:26 PM | Link to this
All this proves to me that the true haters in the world are not white. Any group that will look over a crime that someone commits just to cover their own insecurities has a fundamental problem. It certainly does not help their cause.
By back to knowing you are going to lose
August 20, 2007 6:27 PM | Link to this
. Repent vick to God. He will be with you if you do that. Dog fighting is illegal. That not the point no other player in the history of sport has been lynch in the press and by sport writer like vick. Gambling is illegal why is there a line on each game on every team? you hear white people say race has no place in this If you can’t see race all over this you don’t want to see it. The law is for black but the rule is for white. Vick was wrong let’s be clear. But the media was wrong even more. Black male don’t look for forgivness from man when you do wrong this what they want to do to all of us if they could. I have no faith in america. I see why the world hates the usa. This punishment is over kill . Peta don’t want the pit bull no one else wants them either. If vick was white the fed would have never moved in peta pushed it! look at all who has been locked in a white man sports all black. To hell with the NFL when they know they comply with gambling every week . every team has a line -3 + 6 . If vick made 250 k peta would have not said a word and nor would the haters!
By Sick-of-it
August 20, 2007 6:28 PM | Link to this
Why is it that every single time a famous black person gets into trouble or BREAKS the law, the blind black supporters say its the White mans fault and the white man is after every successful balck man. Everyone is a “hater”. Incredible. Pulling the race card every time something like this happens is getting very very old. Did you see white people saying the black man was out to get Pete Rose? Is it the black mans fault every time Paris Hilton does something stupid? Get over it and quit talking out of both sides of your mouth. You want the world to view you as an American regardless of race, creed or national origin. Every time this moves forward, the blacks throw race right back in everyones faces when one of their boys gets into trouble. Just shut up for once and face reality without throwing race into the situation.
By talacqcon
August 20, 2007 6:31 PM | Link to this
one word … T-O-A-S-T … (and it’s burnt at that). Career over, C- Ya
By Jake Bogartis
August 20, 2007 6:34 PM | Link to this
Gangsta = Housing Project Drug-Dealing Welfare Bum, (money from drug dealing is barely enough to support Gansta’s own addiction, thus, the “Gangsta Welfare Check”).
I’ll assure you that Ron Mexico was equally involved in the drug branch of Bad Newz Enterprises.
Gambling allegations alone are enough, (by NFL rules), to Null And Void the contract of Mr. Mexico.
The judge will break with norms in sentencing THIS first-timer. Mexico had limitless options for entertainment; why did he choose this one? He could have done ANYTHING he wanted to entertain himself. He CHOSE this! Bad Choice!
He’ll receive a 2-year sentence, (federal sentences are not subject to parole or early release), followed by a lifetime gambling ban from the NFL. Take it to the bank!
Any moneys his attorneys don’t get will be gone within a couple years of release.
He’s become Mike Tyson without Don King’s help. To me, that’s his greatest feat!! He sucked, and would have continued to suck, as an NFL quarterback. His skills are more suited to the project playground.
He’s done, and for now, so am I…
By JSC
August 20, 2007 6:36 PM | Link to this
No, he cannot “redeem” himself. Vick is NOT a child. His actions toward animals will not change no matter how many times he says he’s “sorry” (yeah, sorry his a* got caught!).
And, Vick did not make a “mistake”. A mistake is when you spill a drink on someone, it is NOT a “mistake” to hang or drown dogs REPEATEDLY.
Vick is scum. I really wish I could say what he truly is.
By Whitey Fjord
August 20, 2007 6:37 PM | Link to this
It’s offical: I am henceforth a Euro-American.
By AJ
August 20, 2007 6:38 PM | Link to this
It goes to prove that you can pay a guy 100’s of million $ but it won’t stop him from wanting MORE.
His career is over!!!
By Darcy
August 20, 2007 6:38 PM | Link to this
This scumbag had a once in a lifetime chance for a wonderful NFL career and tons of money that could have been used to better himself and those around him. But he chose to spend his fortune to fund an illegal and gruesome dog fighting hobby. Pathetic and absolutely idiotic. He could have done so much good with his celebrity and fortune.
Very sad. No, no redemption here. He HAD his chance. He is pathetic excuse for a human being.
By monica
August 20, 2007 6:39 PM | Link to this
What was the question again? Oh, can he redeem himself? NO.
I have been watching video clips of him on sports TV starting in 2000 and you can see a different man emerging in the last 2 years.
“With great power comes great responsibility.” Mike got power but never responsibly.
By Jack
August 20, 2007 6:40 PM | Link to this
NO!! First, who would want him on their team? If he were to come back, don’t you think that he will be a ‘chew toy’ for some gaming corner backs? He will have an ‘X’ all over his body. Additionally, how many teams would like to have a PETA demonstration at each home game — and for that matter, at each away game. The guy did himself in, and for WHAT?? What did he major it while at Va Tech? Idiocy????
By Kris
August 20, 2007 6:41 PM | Link to this
Redeem himself to me? No, but only because he lied from the beginning saying he looked forward to clearing his “good” name which really wasnt that “great” anyway. Ex.: Herpes incident, flipping off fans, etc..
By Race Card
August 20, 2007 6:42 PM | Link to this
For all of those that are comparing Vick fighting dogs to white people owning slaves and think white people don’t want to talk about it….my family moved here after Emancipation Proclimation and even then lived in the North. So am I still a racist because I believe what Mike Vick did was irrehensible and is a complete sociopath? Get over the race card, the Feds didn’t bring this case up because of his color, they took it because he crossed state lines AND had a DA that was more worried about re-election than justice.
Some of you need to look up the definition of racism. When you talk about “white people this” “white people that” you are truly racist.
By steelchair
August 20, 2007 6:43 PM | Link to this
No, he’s a thug. What’s to redeem. He has screwed the Falcon’s, Blank, the city of Atlanta and all the fans. Let him redeem himself somewhere else.
By Come clean
August 20, 2007 6:43 PM | Link to this
Michael Vick had a chance at redemption if he had just come clean from the get-go. It is hard to do that —particularly for someone like himself who has probably always been allowed to get away with things —certainly would have been easier given hindsite to what has happened.
Michael Vick the man should have —and still needs to —ask for forgiveness from his family, his friends, his teammates, his boss, and most importantly, his Lord.
By AJ
August 20, 2007 6:44 PM | Link to this
VICK’s career is OVER…much like the dogs he put down for UNDER PERFORMING!!!!
Perhaps I will watch Falcons football now that he is gone.
By fisher
August 20, 2007 6:44 PM | Link to this
I really don’t see how he could possibly play again. Who would want to be like Mike?
By judge
August 20, 2007 6:44 PM | Link to this
I hate rachelle.
By THE Tom
August 20, 2007 6:44 PM | Link to this
Yes, he can redeem himself, but only AFTER his mea culpa does not benefit him monetarily… until then, he will insincerely say and do whatever it takes to salvage some of that contract money.
If he says he’s sorry when he’s 50, and has lived a changed life doing good between now and then, he will be redeemed.
By TG
August 20, 2007 6:46 PM | Link to this
As if the dog fighting and killing was not enough, lest we forget that he lied to ALL OF US in his adamant denials. He only took the plea deal when they threatened to charge him with just about every crime that the textbook would allow. I’ll give the Vick defenders that this is a part of the culture within the environment in which Vick grew up. But, how do you defend his arrogant dishonesty to the NFL, federal, state, and local governments, and the children that look up to him as a role model? How do those in the African American community that support Vick defend that????
By Rick
August 20, 2007 6:47 PM | Link to this
I don’t know why he pled guilty. All he had to do was get some African-Americans on the jury. They never would have found him guilty….ask O.J.
By Not Ever
August 20, 2007 6:47 PM | Link to this
Marcus 3x,
This is not about hurricane Katrina, but about Michael Vick and his passion for killing dogs. I’m an African American and I enjoy my dogs company very much. You need to wake up and accept the fact that Mike is a sick individual that broke the law and got caught. What does hurricane Katrina have to do with Michael braking the law, nothing this is just something you brought up to defend his behavior which pretty sick in it’s self. This is what led me to question the black community, I mean this man is wrong but yet you would rather debate on other subjects that don’t even pertain to the problem at hand. Just to let you know white people were also affect by Katrina, so don’t act like only black people have a problem down there.
By Erin
August 20, 2007 6:48 PM | Link to this
it kills me to read all of you people who are playing the race card here… who cares. If this was Tom Brady or Peyton Manning, the response of fans, sponsorships and endorsements getting yanked, and investigation and charges would have been the exact same. The black people on this post saying white america will love this day need to shut up and realize their racist attitudes are what the biggest problem is. This case is NOT ABOUT RACE. GET OVER IT.
Vick may be able to redeem himself personally, but no amount of jail time or money donated to PETA will make people forget that he was physically involved in murdering innocent animals. No sponsor will ever touch him again, and it would take one desperate owner with a non-existant fan base to re-sign him. As a VT alumni, I was a huge Vick fan and didn’t give a crap whether he was black or white. Now I just think he’s a despicable human being. Killing a domesticated animal like a dog isn’t a mistake, its something lacking in your values and moral system. I am not a Falcons fan, but I can’t see why anyone would stop supporting their team because a player was let go, especially over such vile circumstances. talk about bandwagoners!
By Epicurus
August 20, 2007 6:48 PM | Link to this
Vick will be forgiven by the NFL and the public, here’s why: We hold athletes to a different moral standard, they can shoot people, beat wives, and get into bar fights at their leisure. Because, as long as they shuck N’ jive with a big grin on their face—and the right white people are making money the PR machine will wag the dog and the public will be forced to forgive. Whether the public forgives Vick will be in direct relation to his white owner’s ability or inability to extract a profit from him.
By Jack
August 20, 2007 6:49 PM | Link to this
What Vick did was bad enough, but he took his old ‘crew’ with him! He could have done so much good with his celebrity and money, but HE DIDN’T! He chose to fight dogs — and God only knows why!! He then LIED to the NFL, Falcons Managment, and apparently to the Feds. Now, it is pay back time, and that sure can be painful and costly.
He is such a pathetic role model, doubt that even the Oakland Raiders would want him, providing he is not banned for life in the NFL.
Can you imagine — if he comes back to the NFL — some very talented defensive end doing a ‘Vick’ on him?
Who in the future can trust him??? Do you???
By Knoxvolgirl
August 20, 2007 6:49 PM | Link to this
I have been a fan of Mike Vick since his days as a hokie and traveled to Blacksburg on many weekends during my college years. I had also followed his career in Atlanta and even traveled to the dome to watch him play. Yet, I can honestly say that it sickens me to see his face on the television now that I know the atrocities that he was a party to. I hope that he receives the maximum punishment that the law allows. I also vow to never support, in any way, any company (or team) that has any affiliation with Vick in the future. Most of the people that I know share this opinion. For that reason, though he may be forgiven by some, I don’t think that he will ever be successful again as a professional athlete.
By Morris
August 20, 2007 6:49 PM | Link to this
The whole thing is overblown, but let’s put it in perspective: He broke laws. He lied to his boss. He lied to the Commissioner. Most importantly he lied to the fans. The people expected more and got less. He shouldn’t expected any other reaction than the outrage that is now occurring. If continues to claim innocence, or blames others, or give more phony pledges to follow the straight and narrow, then they will never forgive him. People don’t like being taken for fools.
By Mike is RICH!!!
August 20, 2007 6:50 PM | Link to this
It was just some dang dogs!!!! Who cares, you FOOLS not running down to the humane society trying to save all those dogs they killing EVERYDAY!!! What are you doing that wrong: molesting boys/girls?, cheating on your wife with some dude down the street?, shooting your wife, kids and then yourself?, etc. IT WAS JUST SOME STUPID DOGS!! QUIT EATING MEAT IF YOU CARE FOOOOLLLLSSSSSS!!!
By BiteMe
August 20, 2007 6:50 PM | Link to this
Did you REALLY just compare Woody Allen with Michael Vick?? HA HA HA HA HA HA! OMG, ANYTHING you people can come up with.
By big rosie greenbaum
August 20, 2007 6:51 PM | Link to this
To the person called Morris: Keep our perspective? Are you serious? You really believe that humans are above dogs? Why, exactly? I’d really love to know what rationale you can come up with as to why humans deserve better treatment than dogs or cats. I’ve never heard of an animal coming home after a long day of work and beating the crap out of his female. As far as I can see, dogs and cats don’t murder their own kind for pleasure or profit. So really, explain to me why humans should be protected when it’s humans like this psycho Michael Vick who cause all the suffering in the world while animals are just animals and love unconditionally. And remember, Mr. Bleeding Heart, cruelty to animals is a PSYCHOPATHIC BEHAVIOR and is a pre-cursor to killing your favorite animals, the humans. Glad I’m not one of you.
By jeremy
August 20, 2007 6:51 PM | Link to this
As an Eagles fan I just have two comments about Vick. First, he is getting what he deserved; he broke the law and he is a sick man for doing what he did to helpless animals. Second, he was not a very good quarterback. So get over it; your team was going nowhere with a quarterback whose passing abilility was second tier at best. EAGLES!
By Steve
August 20, 2007 6:52 PM | Link to this
I don’t know….
He’s made a joke of his Profession, his league, it’s commissioner, his host city, it’s fans, his business owner, it’s managers, his own family, his college it’s members, their fans, former polayers and most important he’s made a joke of himself.
He goes from something to nothing in record time.
He is one of those who belived in O.J..
No there is no redemption from this he’s stupid like Tyson.
Next stop, tattoo shop for great face tat.
By JOYCE
August 20, 2007 6:54 PM | Link to this
Just let me say I am not a dog owner or lover, nor will I ever be one. However, I am a lover of humans. No one seems to asking the question of whether or not the people causing the mass murders of Americans and Irag citizens can redeem themselves. I never see the hypocritical PETA people protesting when a child is raped by a pit bull or a pit bull has killed a person. I never saw PETA protesting in front of the White House when Chaney was out shooting quail for sport, I might add and then shooting his friend. What do you think they do with all those quail they shoot? Take them to the white house chief, I don’t think so. While I do not condone dogfighting, cockfighting, greyhound racing, shooting animals for sport or wrestling, I do not feel that a person or an animal should be killed or mutilated. The same people who are vilifying Vick are the same ones that go back to their rural towns and spit tobacco while watching cocks fight, dog fight pigs and kill the greyhounds that no longer can produce a win. I feel that people have taken their love for animals to an almost sickening level and should look at this for what it is a mistake. Is this not what is said about going into IRAQ?
By Ljdawg
August 20, 2007 6:55 PM | Link to this
Why would he want to ever play for old racist Atlanta again! Loserville and racist bums! Vick will be back because of one thing, he is good! And not to mention rich so all of you losers can kiss the dollars signs coming out of his back side! Good luck with your losing seasons!!!!
By Doctor H
August 20, 2007 6:55 PM | Link to this
O Ya. I am Canadian and we don’t seem to have all this Black - White garbage. This has nothing to do with color. Both Black and white pet owners love their dogs. This is also not about killing animals in the a humane way. When someone enjoys pain and suffering of helpless innocent animals is SICK and Perverted. Hanging and slamming dogs to kill them after they get chewed up for your pleasure is not humane. Lots of people that get their jollies this way move up to humans or children so that they can recognize the pain and fear even more, which is what turns them on. Vick is finished, hopefully forever.
By Ed
August 20, 2007 6:56 PM | Link to this
Mike Vick can redeam himself in my opinion by using his talents for the betterment of mankind. Will he, I doubt it. Should he again play for the Falcons? No. I feel his presence will be too divisive for the good of the team. There will be team mates who will not forgive as well as a large sector of the fan base. Is this really important in the big sceme of things? Not to me. I live in central America where having something to eat is more important than being entertained. I view him as one of the greatest athletes I have ever seen and enjoyed his performances but one man doesn’t make a team and he had little regard for his fans, the city, the league or his team mates in having chosen to make the decisions that he made. Forgive, no problem. Forget or trust, a different story.
By PJ
August 20, 2007 6:56 PM | Link to this
The last trial I remember of someone torturing and killing animals was Jeffrey Dahmer. And, at this point that’s about the class of person that I put with Michael Vick. Did Jeffrey Dahmer deserve a second chance? Torturing animals is a sign of deeper problems.
I’m just amazed at the way some of these people defend public figures that can do no wrong and then if that doesn’t work, last but not least, make it a racial issue because the whites all will “Jump” and say “And how high?” if you play the race card.
By The72John
August 20, 2007 6:58 PM | Link to this
I’m confused…what does this have to do with race? Are black men exempt from prosecution because they are black? Because that’s the message that I’m seeing from some people here.
The simple fact of the matter is that Vick broke the law, knowingly, willfully, and repeatedly. Please explain to me how race factors into that equation?
The man is a low-life thug who has been given tremendous opportunities in life and has failed to take advantage of them. He deserves far worse than he’s getting, to be honest.
If you really think this is a “race issue” then you are too stupid to be commenting in a public forum.
By Epicurus
August 20, 2007 6:59 PM | Link to this
Whether the public forgives Vick depends, absolutely, on his white owner’s ability to extract a profit from him.
By Swatlanta
August 20, 2007 6:59 PM | Link to this
To the individuals who attempted to call me out. I never said that Vick was innocent at all. He should be punished, not as severely as some of the hateful people on this blog suggest. I don’t care about the dogs, they are just animals IMO (like chickens, cows, etc.). I have never fought dogs or attended a dog fight. I have never hunted animals with high powered rifles in the name of sport either. I just don’t see the difference between Vick killing 8 dogs and the Humane Society killing 15+ million animals a year. They were his pets/possessions. I think that his punishment should be equal to a minor traffic violation.
By AJ
August 20, 2007 7:00 PM | Link to this
OMG - Please Atlanta get over the “RACE CARD”.
This is a case about a MAN commiting unspeakable acts to an animal that did not have free will to fight or flee.
HUMAN Wrestlers have the free will to choose to fight or not, THESE DOGS DID NOT.
Plus, think about what if we (or VICK) killed the low wrestling performers….does “THAT” bring it home for you?
By SKJ
August 20, 2007 7:00 PM | Link to this
FINALLY-The real football fans will support a team and not a player! Those are the fans I want to seat next to at the Dome-I don’t recall seeing Vick hold up the Lombardi Trophy-for those Vick fans-that’s the trophy for winning the SUPER BOWL!!
By Ken
August 20, 2007 7:00 PM | Link to this
As a huge football fan, a dog lover, and a former Vick fan, I believe that people who harm or kill dogs, should go to jail.
People who says this is a “race” thing, is wrong. If this was Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, or any average American, they also would go to jail and they deserve to go to jail. This is not a race issue, this is about a person who did a stupid thing and deserves to go to jail. Why should it be any different for Michael Vick? Becasue he famous or because people of Atlanta and only Atlanta want to to be free, so they can WIN a football game. Thats is just STUPID.
Michael Vick is not even that good as a quaterback. How many Super Bowl’s has he got the Falcons too or even won? Let’s see NONE!
Vick deserves to got to jail and anyone that kills dogs deserve to go to jail. I am glad that his “so called friends” were ready to rat him out, once they find out that they were going to jail for a long time. Vick should of saw this coming or even knew IT IS AGAINST THE LAW TO FIGHT OR KILL DOGS.
I hope the Falcons can still be good and prove that they dont need a dirt bag like Michael Vick.
By TechStudent
August 20, 2007 7:00 PM | Link to this
Vick will not redeem himself until he grows up and matures. He is always being referred to as a “kid” and will remain that way until he does something to sway the public in a positive manner. If Blank keeps Vick, he is insane. I will just hate to watch Vick do what he does best on another team that will pick him up for a meager price. By the end of his jail sentence and suspension, I hope he has invested time and money into some animal rights organization or spill the beans on some other dog fighters.
By KB
August 20, 2007 7:00 PM | Link to this
The guy is classless. I think everyone pretty much understood that when he flicked off his own fans. Though exciting in the open field, he was not a winner in the sense he could bring a Super Bowl ring to Atlanta. Utterly classless.
By Derek
August 20, 2007 7:01 PM | Link to this
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Ask Paul Hornung and Pete Rose about Redemption …
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By JSC
August 20, 2007 7:01 PM | Link to this
Let me guess. All y’all black folk screaming “it’s WHITEY’S FAULT that the head thug of the Falcons killed all those dogs” weigh 300 pounds, have a name like jaquetha, had your first kid at 14 (and your first welfare check), do not have a job (because that would cut into your Jerry Springer watching), but you DO have a computer to b*** on about whitey (while we’re out working every weekday to pay for your food and diapers).
Am I right? Bet I am.
By Kevin
August 20, 2007 7:01 PM | Link to this
Although I consider the dogfighting as a despicable act, let us not forget that a woman chased her 5 children around the family home and drowned them one-by-one in Texas. That same woman is free and back into regular society as I type this response. If we can forgive this woman, we can certainly forgive Michael Vick. He should be allowed to redeem himself.
By Jake Bogartis
August 20, 2007 7:02 PM | Link to this
Playing the race card allows blacks to not take responsiblity for their own actions. If they can’t get a job, it’s whitey! If they break the law it’s whitey’s fault! If they’re d******* in school, it’s gotta be whitey!!
Let me tell you ALL something! Blacks now have MORE of an opportunity for advancement than whites! Affirmative Action, college grants, and every welfare program in the known world is provided for them, BY WHITEY!!!
Cry all you want about Whitey, but it’s Blackey who holds Blackey down…… AND EVERYBODY KNOWS IT!!!
By jimmycpa
August 20, 2007 7:02 PM | Link to this
Its sick to see a group of african americans try to blame this on whitey..7 afican americans implicated no. 7..how quaint by the way..it will be 7 days before he pleads guilty..and probably 7 months before he reports to prison…
By mike
August 20, 2007 7:02 PM | Link to this
No. I feel sorry for him, but I think that he’s killed his career. I really wish that he made other choices in his life, but he didn’t. It’s simple. Besides the insanity of what he did, there are two things that “get” me. One is that I think he represents a group of highly talented sports figures who are raised to do one thing - play football (or some other sport). Forget spelling. Forget how to write or speak a sentence. Forget common sense. Forget responsibility. The second thing is that he (and those like him) are surrounded by high priced lawyers, “spokespersons”, mothers, media reps, league officials, and agents who continually attempt to convince us fans that these athletes are competent, smart, “aw shucks”, astute people. Some are no doubt. But, listening to Michael Vick (and others) speak publicly without a prepared document is scary. It’s scary because he’s scary - he comes across like a guy who is up to no good. He can barely construct a sentence or a uniform thought. I think the scariest thing is the vast number of people who dismiss his (and others) “mistakes”. How can anyone justify the kind of stuff he apparently has admitted to? You know, Jeffrey Daumer tortured animals as a child and ended up a serial killer. Finally, I would like the NFL to list the schools that players have GRADUATED from - - not the schools they’ve attended. In most cases, I suspect, players haven’t graduated, nor did they have any intention to. Today, Mike Vick’s lawyer said that he was “most concerned” about Mike’s future, not his football. I suspect, again, that the attorney was “most concerned” about how he was going to get paid. Hey, if Mike had completed college, he might actually have a future!
By dozier
August 20, 2007 7:03 PM | Link to this
So it’s just “some dogs” eh? The only time human beings should kill is self defense or for sustenance (something to eat for the less educated). Blacks should be more sympathetic since the hip hop landscape is littered with dead people who are victims of black on black crime. Does name Tu-Pac mean anything to you?
By Erin
August 20, 2007 7:03 PM | Link to this
Mike is Rich,
You might have just made the most ignorant comment on this board- First of all the Humane Society doesn’t electrocute or drown animals because they couldn’t win a fight, you MORON. They are eauthinized because there aren’t enough homes to go to and its more humane to put them to sleep than let them starve to death on the side of the road, or let some as*hole like Vick scoop him up and make him fight.
Also, insinuating that meat eaters should equate their dietary preferances to killing innocent animals is not only ignorant, BUT STUPID. Dogs are not breed to be killed and eaten, like cows and chickens. You are exactly the kind of idiot that feeds the stereotype that Southerners are stupid.
By Lori
August 20, 2007 7:04 PM | Link to this
Why isn’t the IRS going after him for tax evasion for the money he earned on the betting? He’ddo more timefor that then he willfor the plea agreement fortourturing the poor dogs. I hope he rotts in HELL!
By Dandy Don Meridith
August 20, 2007 7:07 PM | Link to this
I HAVE A SERIOUS QUESTION FOR AFRICAN AMERICANS: Is it possible for a white man to have a meaningful relationship with African Americans?
The white men in Vick’s life tried to mentor him and rewarded him in a way that is unbelieveable, yet, the relationships seem to be inconsequential.
I’ve worked with and had African Americans work for me. The relationships, in my judgement were productive, meaningful and social —- having them as guests in my home. These relationships appeared to be based on mutual respect **
But now I’m wondering: was it make believe? Did they spit in my tea when I wasn’t looking. Is is possible for whites and blacks to look beyond color and race and value each other as human beings? Just wondering.**
By The Murf
August 20, 2007 7:07 PM | Link to this
It sure was nice to hear Buck and Kincade on ESPN putting racebaiter T. Moore in his place!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By morris
August 20, 2007 7:07 PM | Link to this
I suggest you re-read my post, creature called Big Rosie, because you missed the entire point of what I said, you frikin idiot.
By PJ
August 20, 2007 7:07 PM | Link to this
Michael Vick was born with GOD given talents that most are not given. He has made terribly impaired decisions about how to use or not use that gift. If he had put his heart and soul into his football career, he would have suceeded, winning a Super Bowl or not. He was lazy, did not study the game, cared NOT to grow and get better year after year after year. He should be ashamed for not using the gift God gave him and building upon it. Instead his choices were to make everyone else responsible, never taking any resposibility himself for the mistakes he made. Arthur Blank should have known that Vick was not his QB when Vick threw the obscene gesture to the fans that put the money in his pocket. After him not performing well should we have hung him, electicuted him or drown him for not being good enough…..like the dogs????
Nothing will change Vick because he does not want to change. I am so glad that he will no longer represent the Atlanta Falcons or Atlanta. He was DONE years ago and no one would admit it.
By lakeman
August 20, 2007 7:08 PM | Link to this
i hope and pray that the falcons dont make another mistake and allow this thug in one of their uniforms…he is a thug and will continue to associate with his thug crew….he has been pampered all his life and now it is time that he pays the piper…the falcons were awful before him, were awful with him and now should move on and be awful with someone else of his ilk…
By Derek
August 20, 2007 7:08 PM | Link to this
Jeffery Dahmer Abused Animals as a Child …
By AJ
August 20, 2007 7:09 PM | Link to this
“RICH”
Try English 101
By Artie
August 20, 2007 7:09 PM | Link to this
All of the posters crying racial bias just need to get over it!!!!! Vick is a GHETTO THUG…always was and always will be…period!!!! He’s living proof that $$$ can’t buy you class!!!!
By Rusty Lode
August 20, 2007 7:12 PM | Link to this
Rick, you’re exactly right… I can’t for the life of me understand why he pled guilty. 1 holdout (racist black person) would’ve hung the jury… It makes no sense. I was so looking forward to the aftermath of that debacle… haha
By Morris
August 20, 2007 7:12 PM | Link to this
Hey **ED @6:56 PM
Exactly what talents does Vick have that he can use for the betterment of mankind?
By cas
August 20, 2007 7:15 PM | Link to this
Mikes’ problem was that he got involved with so called friends that rolled on him. Look at Ray Lewis, he was involved in a murder but his friends never talked. I guess Virginians are just a soft people..they roll easily. Regardless of what happened, its just dogs. Society kills dogs everyday - check out how many doe daily at the dog pound. I guess we value dogs lives more than human life. Its a sad day when a life - human life is ruin because of dogs. I guess its true..dog spelled backwards is some people’s God.
By John P
August 20, 2007 7:18 PM | Link to this
Threats about empty seats is worthless; the real money is the owner’s share of the multi-billion $$$$ TV contracts - you think they care about 8 home games. Associating with these thugs and such nasty activities and lie to the owner and commish is simply poor judgement so he would never be able to make decisions on the field when it counts - he threw the ball right to Dawkins in that playoff game in Philly - he lost to Cle and Det in the same year!!! He just doesn’t have it and now with him outta the way, you ATL fans have real hope for the future.
By ga tom
August 20, 2007 7:19 PM | Link to this
Talk about your 2 fur, Arthur Blank got our flag changed & Vick paid him back for it. Maybe when Vick goes to Oakland his fans will follow him there, reducing rush hour by 2 cars?
By barney F
August 20, 2007 7:19 PM | Link to this
Yes Vick can be redeemed along with his football career, but true redemption comes from a sincere heart and God can only tell if it’s authentic. People in Atlanta and this country are hypocrites judging Vick when they SIN everyday and are forgiven by their creator.
Yes, Vick needs help, MENTAL HELP if the accusations are true how he killed dogs. If you were to drive in a neighborhood, and witnessed someone with an ax chopping dogs, drowning, electrocuting and hanging dogs, you would call the police and he would be put in a MENTAL INSTITUTION for evaluation.
The only thing the Vick case has done is actually show the disparity between Black and White skinned humans since we all are of one race, HUMAN. It shows how bigoted and prejudice society is after this country was founded over 200 years, and the resolution and healing of our difference will probably never happen.
By MJ
August 20, 2007 7:21 PM | Link to this
The bottom line is that Mike Vick has already earned more money than any of you people will earn in your lifetimes. He will be out of jail in 14 months and will be back in the NFL after a 2 or 3 year suspension and all of you will be paying money to see him play for Atlanta or some other team. In America, athletes can get away with anything - all they have to do is say they are sorry and do their time. As long as that athlete can make a team a winner, the fans will show up and pay their money.
By ddd
August 20, 2007 7:21 PM | Link to this
You know what!who cares. Now all you outraged people who were so upset about Vick put your energy to another cause “THE JENNA SIX” lets see how much time and energy YOU put there. I didn’t like so. Get outraged about a worthy cause and not about someone putting a damper on your entertainment (football). You venters SUCK!
By LA Girl
August 20, 2007 7:21 PM | Link to this
What is wrong with our judicial system? All of you making comments about what Vick did BUT none of you know the truth. We are all speculating on what the news media is saying.
By John C. Fremont
August 20, 2007 7:23 PM | Link to this
Jake Bogartis, your 7:02 comment is completely correct. Anyone that can’t see that plain truth is naive, or just plain stupid.
By LA Girl
August 20, 2007 7:26 PM | Link to this
NFL - how much money did Michael Vick bring to the NFL?
Falcons - how much money did Vick bring to the organization?
When did the Federal Government ever prosecute a dog fighting? Why would they step in for such a case? Are there any on the books?
By Kris
August 20, 2007 7:29 PM | Link to this
You tell em Tammy!!!!
By Swatlanta
August 20, 2007 7:30 PM | Link to this
The end result is the same Erin. The dog is dead. I’m appalled that the humane society would kill those animals instead of feeding them and providing an area for them to run and play. I’m appalled that horses are shot up with drugs, have a 120lb midget placed on their back, and are forced to run full speed for two miles while being beaten by said midget. I’m appalled that after the race, the same horse is often put to sleep because the drugs have worn off and the horse is near death (also greyhounds). I’m appalled that 65 year old white men feel that it’s a fair battle between the cunning deer,and the high powered rifles they use to kill them for sport from 200 yards away. Save your self-righteous babble for someone else. Why would a cow or a chicken be less important than a dog ? A life is a life, correct. hmmmmmm
By Girly Girl
August 20, 2007 7:31 PM | Link to this
Why the Federal Government is NOT investigatin the NBA referee? This is insane! Why couldn’t the state of Virginia handle this case?
By Greg
August 20, 2007 7:31 PM | Link to this
I am so tired of people putting down dog fighting. We do worse when we eat hamburgers and hotdogs every day and allow hunters to kill with bullets and hunting bows. PETA and people protesting dog fighting as barbaric are hypoctrites. We kill animals every day for food and sport and you don’t hear a peep from most about those. I guess dogs get special protection and treatment because some people think they are cuter and more desirable than other animals. I’m sure cows wouldn’t agree with dogs being more valuable. Dogs are certainly not the smartest animals either. I am just tired of the hypocrisy. I want to see dog on the menu in the U.S. It taste good like chicken and dogs don’t deserve special protection over chickens or cattle.
By Supreme Being
August 20, 2007 7:33 PM | Link to this
Since many of you have chosen to bring me into this conversation I feel the need to voice my opinion. For the record, I dont like him and he wont be seeing me anytime soon. I recommend some place a little hotter.
Best Wishes….
Your Friend,
God
PS. My son doesn’t like him either.
By MIke
August 20, 2007 7:34 PM | Link to this
Yes,and I will not watch the falcons until he returns.What about the white guy that BEAT his Girl FRIENDS DOG to DEATH with a HAMMER?He still plays FOOTBALL and did no time in JAIL!HUMMMM FEDS???????The VICK heaters don’t even watch FOOTBALL,so go watch GOLF and go stop your local shelter from SLAUGHTERING ANIMALS.
By Lala
August 20, 2007 7:35 PM | Link to this
Michael Vick should have paid a huge fine i e 15 million, required 2000 hours work at a Humane Society center or vet school i e VT, and a one year ban from football. After 1 year let him get back on the field making money and paying taxes!!!!! Mr. Vick could also use a handler to keep him on the straight and narrow life of being a citizen. Maybe the NFL should also take another look at Ray Lewis and Leonard Little they are still playing after a hit/run and just a hit. I guess Mr. Vick should have bet on humans and be involved in their training.
Lala
By damon
August 20, 2007 7:39 PM | Link to this
He can’t redeem himself when he’s no longer in the publics eye (ie. off the team for good)
so no, there’s no way for him to ever get that chance
By Jeff
August 20, 2007 7:39 PM | Link to this
The charges against Vick were NOT racially motivated.
It would be no more acceptable to let Vick off the hook for this because he is black than it would be to let Pete Rose off the hook because he is white.
Michael Vick is an adult and is responsible for his actions in our society.
If I, for some insane reason, were to decide tomorrow to fund and participate in an illegal dogfighting operation in my backyard, I am responsible for everything that results from that decision. Period. I just picked up both ends of the stick - and that includes both jailtime and negative career implications.
America will never forgive six years of dog abuse, no matter the degree of punishment that individual ultimately receives for his actions.
It should be noted that it is a simple fact that America loves its pet dogs. Loves them. Man’s best friend.
Have you ever seen a movie where the pet dog gets it? There is much more emotional upheaval over this event when compared with the death of any human character. Why? Because dogs are loyal creatures whose fate is up to the owner. Men, for the most part, choose the life they lead. Dogs leave that choice up to us.
To those who argue that killing a dog is not illegal, you are correct. Giving a dog an overdose of barbituates to end its life happens every day, and though unpleasant, is widely considered a humane way to accomplish the task.
Let’s compare that to the methods employed here. You couldn’t drag me into a movie theater to watch that show. And that is the image forever imprinted over the handsome face of Michael Vick in the eyes of America.
Redemption is Impossible.
In conclusion, the glove fits. His NFL career is over, and the only redemption he may receive is from God, his close friends and family, if he is lucky. He will never redeem himself in the eyes of the average NFL fan.
America will never again appreciate the work of such a cruel and foolish man.
By stinkybirdpoop
August 20, 2007 7:41 PM | Link to this
The feds should give him the max penalty; the NFL should never let him play again and impose the max fine possible; Finally, they should let Vick loose in a cage with 8 pit bulls hungry for his blood & let him go 4 quarters if he lasts that long
By LJ Roswell
August 20, 2007 7:46 PM | Link to this
Michael Vick needs to be FIRED!!! He should have had the common sense not to hang out with criminals in the first place. But then, you are the company you keep. How selfish in making his decisions he never thought TEAM he thought ME. All that leads to his own self destruction. Can he redeem himself…perhaps after PRISON!
By Greg
August 20, 2007 7:46 PM | Link to this
I am so tired of people trying to make athletes into role models. They are not. Teach your kids to appreciate their athletic talents and that is it. Tell them no one knows whether they are good in their private lives. That would be like me assuming George W. Bush is nice and upstanding in his private life. I don’t know that and most people don’t. Same with Bill Clinton, Karl Rove, Janet Reno, etc. Appreciate the public works that they do, but don’t assume they are morally pure in their private lives or you or your kid may get burned.
By Realist
August 20, 2007 7:48 PM | Link to this
I wonder if certain members of the ATL community would still support or be such diehard fans of Mike Vick if he spoke proper english and behaved like a civilized human being such as Tiger Woods or Colin Powell, instead of 50 Cent…oh by the way, regardless of race, he’s a subpar QB who runs the ball to make up for his shortcomings as a QB and his lack of leadership…the Falcons can do better and will without him…
By Palmetto State Dawg
August 20, 2007 7:49 PM | Link to this
To all you morons that think this clown deserves a chance: It sure would’ve been nice if the dogs he had killed had been given a second chance. I’ve spent some time around pit bulls, and they get a bad rap. They’re actually very nice dogs if raised right. When you get a bunch of thugs like Vick and his “homeboys” raising dogs, that’s when they turn out mean. Vick should go to jail based on stupidity alone. The man is making millions & has unbelievable talent, but yet is willing to risk it all on dog fighting. What an idiot.
By Lucille Willoughby
August 20, 2007 7:49 PM | Link to this
Given Vick’s stunning lack of common sense up to the point of copping a plea, I doubt he’ll ever be able to reclaim the heights of his earlier career once he’s finished with his jail time (which is going to add up to more than the 12+ months the Feds give him, given the state charges). He’ll be lucky to coach high school football once it’s all over.
And for the jackholes who seem to think that being able to cavalierly butcher an animal is different from murdering/harming a human, bear in mind that virtually every serial killer started you’ve ever heard of started off torturing and killing animals before working their way up to humans. It’s a red flag of sociopathy. I suspect the people who shrug and say “it was just a dog” are also the same idiots who think the pervs who get popped on Dateline’s TO CATCH A PREDATOR when they show up for a “date” with a 13 year old they met on online with a 6 pack and condoms are being “set up”.
By tony316
August 20, 2007 7:50 PM | Link to this
Okay, kibbles and bits lovers put ur money where ur mouth is. buy the remaining tickets but i know you won’t and probably have never been because you are the same folks that would pass a human being homeless to rescue a dog or cat.
By Uhhuh
August 20, 2007 7:51 PM | Link to this
why do black Americans worship a man with the brains of a cockroach? If you feel someone is knocked off a pedestal, at least pick someone who is respected, EVERYONE KNEW BEFORE THIS INCIDENT VICK WAS DUMBER THAN A PUBLIC SCHOOL DROPOUT. I mean if you want to be outraged by a fall from grace, be outraged if Colin Powell or Condeleeza Rice or some respected person acts a fool….IS ANYONE SURPRISED VICK ACTED LIKE A MORON??? I MEAN COME ON !!!!
By joy
August 20, 2007 7:51 PM | Link to this
I believe that Vick can redeem himself; he is a human being and if he asks for forgiveness, it should be given. Who are we to judge? Let him serve his time and get on with his life. After all we as African Americans were expected to forgive the hangings, shootings, raping, drowning, and other torturous acts bestowed upon our ancestors..surely you can get past of all things DOGS!
By jshilly
August 20, 2007 7:53 PM | Link to this
To Sloan: You say this is the race card that is being pulled. I say that the naive card is being drawn on your behalf!!! You can’t seriously say that this isn’t a race-related issue. He has no priors!!! His co-defendants do. Why wouldn’t they accept a plea deal!!! And with that being said, what does that do for Vick? He has no leverage what so ever. It’s his word against theirs. The media and PETA, by the way who supposedly are for animal rights but are absent at the horse and greyhound track where people bet it all on, containing all the coverage to paint a portrait of pure evil by Mr. Vick, not condemning the other assailants. They make Michael Vick look like the anti-Christ. Meanwhile, cows, chickens, and pigs are being ruthlessly slaughtered by the masses everyday. Where is the media and PETA? Horses and greyhounds are becoming subject to the use of steriods and other performance-enhancing drugs! Where’s PETA? Where’s the media? Most likely if you look closely on ESPN, you’ll probably catch them in the lobby betting on their favorite horse, or greyhound. Indeed, if Vick did commit this crime his punishment shouldn’t be severe to the point of ruining his career. Let us not forget that not to long ago, Mr. Jamal Lewis helped assist a drug deal, which kills many people on a daily basis. He served his short term in the offseason and that was that. WE as people really need to evaluate our morals because right now, they’re all screwed up. So Sloan, before you through up the naive card, maybe you should analyze the situation a bit more.
By Mary
August 20, 2007 7:53 PM | Link to this
Has anyone else noticed that the majority of people on this blog who support Vick can’t spell much less write a proper sentence! It is almost as disturbing as Vick’s behavior.
By cas
August 20, 2007 7:55 PM | Link to this
I guess dog spelled backward is truly God..I guess Vick hurt God..The new era has begun. White Atlanta finally can move back to 1965 through 2001 before Vick arrived, those were the years that we were going to the Super Bowl and playoff every year.
By HONKY TONK
August 20, 2007 7:55 PM | Link to this
When keepin it real goes wrong…for all his money, he was still thug garbage
By Chuck
August 20, 2007 7:55 PM | Link to this
My biggest problem is that ESPN won’t shut up about this case. Gee! He doesn’t plead until NEXT Monday. Do we really need two hours and countless analysts to break down this story? No.
By Georgia still racist
August 20, 2007 7:55 PM | Link to this
I don’t think he can because these sick-racist-kissing-their-dogs-in-the mouth-white people want let him (Add that sell out Terrence Moore to this list).
It’s a shame…the President can steal an election, lie to invade a country, torture people, and spy on the citizens of this country just to name a few.
What do white people do? Nothing. Some even make excuses for him. Yet these same white people crucify the brothers every chance they get.
No wonder the rest of the world hates this country…founded by white people for white people.
I can’t wait for the 2010 census. That majority gets smaller every decade.
By Fireman
August 20, 2007 7:56 PM | Link to this
Treat Vick the same way Pete Rose has been treated. Let’s see you put a racial spin on that!
By Chris
August 20, 2007 7:57 PM | Link to this
Michael Vick does not have the strength of character, class or intelligence to redeem himself. Vick is all about No. 7 — as documented by an entire career filled with self promotion, throwing teammates under the bus in countless interviews, and an enending series of disgusting personal acts … and that was before the dogfighting. Apparently, no one has ever held Vick accountable for his actions, least of all No. 7 himself.
By Bob
August 20, 2007 7:58 PM | Link to this
Redemption for Vick?
Possibly, but right now it is time for punishment for such heinous actions.
Vick seriously needs treatment and some maturation to address his sociopathic behavior and sadistic character.
For his sake, I hope he accepts his punishment, takes responsibility for his brutal behavior, and begins to develop himself and his character into a better and more rational human being.
Getting back on the football field should be the least of his worries right now. If he does not get his life together and learn some basic moral principles, then this episode could be just the beginning of a downward spiral into oblivion.
Mike, sometimes a grown-up man has to tell so-called “friends” to take a hike and go to hell. Also, a grown-up man takes full responsibility for his own actions as opposed to always looking for some way to slide by past the basic rules of decency and behavior.
By Rusty
August 20, 2007 7:58 PM | Link to this
Vick continues to be honored with a building named in his honor at Virginia Tech, even though he couldn’t be bothered to go to class regularly, much less graduate from the school before jumping to the NFL.
Oh, yes, when he signed his contract with the NFL — he got a special insurance policy guaranteeing him X amount of millions in case he got injured.
He has, is and always will be, a thug from Hampton Roads who just happens to have phenomenal athletic ability, nothing more.
By AngryBlackMan
August 20, 2007 7:59 PM | Link to this
RAY LEWIS DID NOT PLEAD GUILTY…stop comparing the two.
By Steve
August 20, 2007 8:01 PM | Link to this
It doesn’t matter what we think. Michael has severely damaged the image of the NFL and the Atlanta Falcons.
Everyone is looking only at the dogfighting thing. But Michael was bankrolling an illegal gambling operation and he lied aboout it to Roger Goodell’s face as well as Arthur Blank’s. I have absolutely no doubt that Roger Goodell will ban Michael Vick from ever playing in the NFL agsin. Vick’s chance for redemption was when Goodell and Blank asked him if he was involved. Mike chose to lie to them both. Now he’s got to pay the piper. No, he doesn’t deserve a second chance. He forfeited that by lying!
By rich
August 20, 2007 8:02 PM | Link to this
Vick deserves everything coming to him, and then some.
I almost wish he would have fought the charges and ultimately gotten a lengthier prison term. I only hope the DA’s office in VA follows through with its charges. This isn’t over yet; not by a long shot.
Call me a hater, but I’m not the one who just tossed away millions in endorsements and a career in the NFL.
But hey, at least he still has a fan base that blindly supports and excuses his criminal acts on a message board. That’s something…I guess. Then again, I’d be embarrassed to have these supporters behind me. Aside from the fact that most can’t write a coherent sentence, their justifications for supporting him are either based on race or on a belief that killing dogs is OK.
By Vick get lost
August 20, 2007 8:03 PM | Link to this
So this low-life creature bred dogs which were loyal to him until their very end and people are asking what is wrong with that?? Give me a friggin’ break, how sick do you have to be when enjoy your own dogs dying a horrible death and you are enjoying every second??? PRETTY SICKO!!! I hope he rots in hell were he and his friends belong. He is a disgrace to the Falcons and Atlanta!! By the way which part of illegal is so hard to understand???
By Big_GRIP
August 20, 2007 8:04 PM | Link to this
Yes, he can be forgiven!
He’s human and a sinner just like everyone of us…
BUT PLEASE, LET’S NOT FORGET:
The animal cruelty charges are the LESSER of the charges against Vick.
The MAIN charges were the creation of an illegal gambling enterprise and crossing state lines to commit felonies.
If Vick was just fighting dogs in his backyard for fun (and killing a few now and again) the Feds wouldn’t even bother with the case.
Vick was acting like a little wanna-be gangster, and in the process he violated RICO laws just like a REAL gangster.
This ain’t just about killing some dogs.
By Michael
August 20, 2007 8:08 PM | Link to this
Here’s my take on this subject:
Contrary to popular belief, submitting a guilty plea is not the same thing as admitting guilt.
Normally there are 2 reasons why someone wants a plea deal:
1) They’re guilty as sin and want to minimize prison time, or
2) They can’t win their case and don’t want to drag it out, so they cut a deal in order to move on with their lives as quickly as possible.
As of right now, I believe Michael is in the 2nd category.
I also believe that today’s plea deal doesn’t mean very much. We won’t find out for sure what’s really going on until next Monday, August 27th. If Michael stands in court and admits to the charges filed against him, THEN…and ONLY THEN will the truth finally come out. And the judge will be more than justified to throw the book at him to the fullest extent of the law.
To be fair, I feel compelled to say this: to all of you folks who think that Michael is finally getting what’s coming to him, that type of attitude says more about you than it does about Michael. I can guarantee you that if you lived in a fishbowl, chances are pretty high that you’d “always seem to be in trouble” just like Michael. No one is perfect and we all make mistakes, but we don’t make them in public like Michael does.
At the very least, Michael is guilty of owning the property where these heinous acts took place and with surrounding himself with less than honorable people. But like I said, come next Monday we’ll find out the real deal and all of this conversation won’t mean anything.
By FootballFan
August 20, 2007 8:08 PM | Link to this
Wow, can Vick redeem himself. He absolutely can, Kobe(and he was once the spawn of the devil)is doing it and so can Mike. People who were not Vick supporters from the on-set will never be Vick supporters and will always be negative towards him. Everyone thinks they know what type of person it takes to engage in dog fighting. Vick hates dog, Vick is cruel and inhumane. Those statements are probably suprisingly not the case at all. I saw a program once with Vick and the interviewer asked him if he were not playing football, what would he want to do? His response was “I would want to be a vet, you can ask my girlfriend sitting in the audience… I love animals, I am always reading about them…” The fact of the matter is that Vick probably loved those dogs. He appreciates the strength and power of the dogs. He loves their stature and their will to push forward. Their bravery to fight to the death. The survival of the fittest..because only the strong will survive. Believe it or not those dogs raised for fighting are well taken care of. I knew a guy who fought dogs and he LOVED his dogs and they LOVED him. His dogs were also very protective of him, they would not let anyone get close to him. Fighting these dogs from their perspective is like how you would say when you were growing up my Daddy can beat up your Daddy. It is the I have the baddest dog.. no one can beat my dog syndrome. When their dog wins it is pride. When the dog loses it is shame. It is like a samurai warrior, to win is honor, to lose is shame… shame paid for by death. Certainly not everyone understands this. An individual that can engage in and enjoy such acts must be evil and inhumane. I don’t thing that Mike is inhumane or evil. He just shows his appreciate and love of the animal in a manner that some see as vile becuase they see the fight he sees the power, the bravery. These dogs are like gladiators..and that is all it is. I am not a dog lover or any animal for that matter. I absolutely detest them. So I suppose I am a cruel and inhumane person becuase I don’t have any love for a domesticated wolf. Survival is the nature of these animals who mame and kill children, innocent passer-byers and sometimes their owners. Mike you will be alright…it does not matter what others think. The Lord is the ruler of our destiny not man, whatever he has for you will be for you. The forgiveness of God is most important though many on this blog have condemned you to hell, there is no heaven or hell that man can put you in only God. He alone knows your heart…….
By Freddy K.
August 20, 2007 8:10 PM | Link to this
Handler? Is that like a trainer?
By DHD
August 20, 2007 8:13 PM | Link to this
I hope he can get forgiveness as well as those who would stick a needle in a baby’s head and suck out it’s brain.
But…I care more about the name on the front of the jersey than I do the name on the back. Vick is gone and it’s time for the Falcons to move on.
By Bob
August 20, 2007 8:13 PM | Link to this
With regard to Vick’s football career and the effect on ticket purchases, some fans will stop buying tickets if Vick ever plays again, while other fans will stop buying tickets if Vick is not allowed to play again.
However, individual ticket holders do not matter. Just look at the real estate allocation of seats in an NFL stadium. The high-value money comes from corporate suites and luxury boxes.
Some of the corporate suites and luxury boxes are owned by hardcore fans, but often such high-end booths are used to entertain clients and business associates who are likely more casual fans than hardcore, rabid followers of an NFL team.
Those Fortune 500 companies with luxury suites will find that casual fans are not going to want to watch Vick and come into work on Monday morning to let collegaues at the water cooler know that they cheered for Vick over the weekend.
The result will be that Vick’s value to any franchise is diminished severely, and especially so to the high-deollar customers of Fortune 500 companies that purchase luxury suites to entertain clients.
By Matt Jones
August 20, 2007 8:15 PM | Link to this
Yes Vick can certainly redeem himself just like anybody else who has committed a criminal, immoral or unethical act. The Word is repentance. How hypocritical can folks be? Most people have a decision or committed acts that