Talk of the Town

By Zeek

August 20, 2007 3:34 PM | Link to this

Absolutely….everybody deserves a second chance!

By Filster

August 20, 2007 3:36 PM | Link to this

The only way Vick could redeem himself, at least to my satisfaction, would be to do something which he has not done to date; namely, tell the truth and accept responsiblity for his actions. He continues to lie, squirm, angle, etc. and look where he is. If he had done the honorbale thing right off the bat, perhaps his career might have been salavaged. As it is, as long as he’s a Falcon I won’t spend a penny on aything to do with the team. Arthur, Rich, are ya listening?

By lisa

August 20, 2007 3:36 PM | Link to this

DOES IT MATTER? Redeem himself with who? Isn’t it safe to assume that his NFL career is over?

By Brenda

August 20, 2007 3:37 PM | Link to this

There will never be any redemption for him as far as I am concerned. I just hope the state of Virginia can still press charges. In any event, I hope he is never allowed to play football again anywhere. He is a disgrace to the human race and anyone who can do the things he did is pure evil.

By jimmy

August 20, 2007 3:37 PM | Link to this

mike doesn’t have to do a thing. sometime over the next few months it will all come out that this was one big set-up and then all of you so called fans will be sorry that you don’t have mike as your qb.

By Toast

August 20, 2007 3:39 PM | Link to this

I wish he could, but if he is guilty of this crime, what does that say about who Vick really is. If killing dogs by his own hand is “normal and not cruel behavior” how can you recover from that?

By Megan

August 20, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this

I have to say that I am very sad to find out that he has pled guilty. As a young man, he had a great chance to be a leader for every community in this country. I hope others have learned from his mistakes. I hope he has learned his lesson and is able to redeem himself. He will have a tough road to show everyone he has changed and will not make the same mistakes again.

By morris

August 20, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this

the man didnt kill a human…regardless if how terrible the killing of dogs are…but let keep it in perspective,,,,he didnt kill a person…this get more attention then the 3 students killing exucution-style shooting in new jersey…how sad is that!

By Falcon 4 Life

August 20, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this

I certainly hope so.

By Diogenes

August 20, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this

Can he at least rehabilitate himself in the public’s eyes? Sure he can. Look, I’ve lambasted him here as much as anyone. That being said, I’ll listen seriously to anyone who sincerely apologizes, and then through his actions, shows he really means it.

Michael, drop the cocky, thuggish attitude. Say you’re sorry, and mean it. Go on talk shows, and come clean about what you did. Give money (a lot) to animal-related and other charities. Straighten up your life, and drop your thuggish friends. TALK to kids, and teach them that “being from the ‘hood” is no excuse to wallow in violent and lawless behavior.

Do all that, and I’ll listen. Seriously, too. And, I’ll be the first to give you a second chance once you’ve paid your debt. Fair enough?

By Think about It.

August 20, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this

Not in this time he would have been better off killing a black man. Then the white public and the feds wouldn’t be so hard on him. There is justice for white america and a differrent justice for black america. Face it where I grew up dogs did’t live in our houses, we didn’t and don’t kiss them in mouth nor do we value them above humanity. Don’t care what anyone of you say Vick was a threat from the time he came into the league. Now that Vick and DJ are gone the falcons look like the birds of old. Welcome back blackouts.

By Mike

August 20, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this

Doesn’t matter if he can redeem himself, by the time Mr. Poindexter and the State of Virginia finish with Vick he’ll be washed up mentally and physically as far as the NFL is concerned.

By Jknop

August 20, 2007 3:42 PM | Link to this

Does anyone really care? He obviously can’t make rational decisions without consulting his thug buddies. He’ll be back in trouble within 10 minutes of getting out. See ya Mike, I hope it was worth it.

One question remains now, is Marcus the GOOD brother now? Morons

By Bruce

August 20, 2007 3:42 PM | Link to this

Mike is probably going to spend a year in jail (missing 07 and 08 season). He then will be suspended for a MINIMUM for 1 year from the NFL (missing the 09 season). It is going to be really tough on him once he is available to play in the league again…if ever. Remember, he LIED directly to the NFL Commissioner, telling him that he had NOTHING to do with the dog-fighting operation. Time to move the franchise away from the Georgia Dome and somewhere out in Suburbs, closer to the new fan-base that Arthur Blank is going to have to build. The African-American community will probably stop supporting the team over what Mike did. Go figure!

By Hp

August 20, 2007 3:42 PM | Link to this

Yes. If Jamaal Lewis recovered from the human killing incident in Atlanta then there is no reason why Michael Vick should not be able to recover from a dog fighting incident. Since when have dogs’ lives been put above those of human beings? Hp

By Bob

August 20, 2007 3:42 PM | Link to this

Can Michael Vick redeem himself?

No.

Jesus may forgive him, but I ain’t Jesus

By Alexis

August 20, 2007 3:42 PM | Link to this

Once a low life thug, always a low life thug. There is no redemption except through God for the sins this immoral child of sin has committed. He has mamed, killed and otherwise harmed innocent creatures for profit and pleasure. He surely will burn in the fires of Hell for this unless God chooses to spare him through pennance; but there will be no redemption on Earth and certainly no redemption on the football field. I hope those who defended him and proclaimed his innocence take notice — he is NOT a hero, he is a petty thug given every chance to get himself out of that life and into a life of moral rightousness and he chose to stay with his wicked ways. He is not to be idolized but is to be pitited. May God have mercy on his soul.

By JaneDog

August 20, 2007 3:43 PM | Link to this

maybe the Arena League will need a quarterback

By Depends

August 20, 2007 3:44 PM | Link to this

If he is truly sorry and makes up for what he did, we all should forgive him. Anyone who believes in God knows that forgiving is what we are supposed to do. Maybe counseling as well to help with whatever in his head makes him think that was ok.

By Billy

August 20, 2007 3:44 PM | Link to this

How can someone responsible for something so vile redeem himself?

By yes he can

August 20, 2007 3:45 PM | Link to this

Yes, he can. I will not change the way I view Vick. It is not like those things was done to humans. I think he should donate money to PETA buy them however many pitbills they said he killed. Lose his so call friends and family. Move forward with his life doing positive things. There are people out there that has done worst and have moved on to be better and positive people.

By CC

August 20, 2007 3:46 PM | Link to this

Who cares? It’s just football. It’s not like he is that important to the future of this country or even this planet. All her does is play football. Not important.

By Chase

August 20, 2007 3:46 PM | Link to this

Once a thug, always a thug. I’m assuming this means his pathetic NFL “career” is over for good? My only hope is that he gets what’s coming to him in prison.

By Do'h!

August 20, 2007 3:47 PM | Link to this

Please make sure to remember this was and always will be about race. The Pitt Bull race that is….

By Big Rob

August 20, 2007 3:47 PM | Link to this

I sure hope so. It will be hard. With PETA and white people on him. It is gonna be hard.

By W Blicker

August 20, 2007 3:48 PM | Link to this

There is an essential element of humanity that is missing in someone who can kill animals the way Vick and his gang did. Unless he and his friends can regain that element of decency there can be no redemption in this life. Whether or not he can remains to be seen. What he has done to date is enough to banish him from the NFL. No one capable of this cruelty that is found out deserves to have any privilege.

By lah

August 20, 2007 3:48 PM | Link to this

I think he would need a little integrity before he would be able to redeem himself and he obviously has zero.

By Alicia

August 20, 2007 3:49 PM | Link to this

I DO NOT GIVE A DAMN about dogs over Vick. You will see that game time when you see empty seats. Thats is my opinion and I am sticking to it. I do not give a f**k. He will still play even after serving time. Sorry that disappoints you. I believe people make mistakes as I am sure you dumb azzes have. I don’t give a damn and there is nothing you can say.

MICHAEL VICK SUPPORTER

By doodiebuddy

August 20, 2007 3:50 PM | Link to this

I doubt it. This guy can’t do anything right. He’s got as much common sense as the dogs he killed.
Good riddance, dirtbag.
Diogenes had some good points but we all know Mike is not going to make any effort because he’s a lazy piece of trash. And who cares about the blackout…get NFL ticket and watch some good teams. (go BUCS!)

By Tina

August 20, 2007 3:50 PM | Link to this

I feel that Mike will one day be able to redeem himself, because he is a human being that made a mistake. And the first mistake he made was when he stayed in contact with the so called friends he had before he became famous. When you have certain things happen in yuour life that changes your status, like him signing with the Falcons, you have to let certain things go. And it is sad to say, but he should have let his friends go because as he can see, as soon as the police starting in on his so called buddies and family they started talking like a parakeet. Telling eveything. He will be lucky not to do alot of jail time. I feel he is really a good kid that let the fame and money go to this head, but he will be alright and will bounce back. I am pretty sure that he has learned a hard lesson about his life.

I wish him all the luck in the world, and I can’t wait to see him again on the field.

Signed, A Georgia Peach

By GaDawg

August 20, 2007 3:50 PM | Link to this

Vick is a thug, but what should we expect from the Black community where there are very few roll models and few Fathers. I feel sorry for the Black Familys who do their best to provide for their kids but who get lumped into the majority of women who think having kids out of wedlock is “cool”

By Andrea Herrera

August 20, 2007 3:51 PM | Link to this

He needs to have some therapy and do hands on community service…no fluffy stuff like commercials or galas. He needs to work with his local Humane Society or a rescue organization. I’m very sad to see this happen to the Atlanta Falcons and their faithfull fans, we had a lot riding on MV! Can he redeem himself? Of course. All publicity is good publicity.

By Rachelle

August 20, 2007 3:51 PM | Link to this

I dont understand the hate…The word “thug” is only a politically acceptable replacement word for the “N ” word. What is a thug? and who and what defines who one is? Michael Vick will be well because I dont believe he is filled with the hate that is being directed towards him from all of these “haters” who are just that because of who and what he is. I only see the term “thug” applied to the media activities and actions or high profile black men.

By JLM

August 20, 2007 3:52 PM | Link to this

Yes he can and yes he will.

By Andera

August 20, 2007 3:52 PM | Link to this

I certainly hope so. I will still support him.

By NASDAQ

August 20, 2007 3:53 PM | Link to this

Yes if he repents for what he has done, he will have his redemption in the eyes of God which is the only thing that really matters. As far as his football career, yes if he apologizes for his actions. Everyone deserves a second chance and someone will pick the guy up of Goddell lets him back into the league.

By doodiebudy

August 20, 2007 3:54 PM | Link to this

HP- no one said that dogs lives are above or more valuable than a human’s. Its the heinous nature of this crime that has everyone up in arms. It is truly disgusting. These are pre-meditated actions to torture and kill dogs for entertainment and money. Get with it, dude.

By Miss Kitty

August 20, 2007 3:54 PM | Link to this

According to his attorneys, “Michael wishes to apologize again to everyone who has been hurt by this matter.” How is he going to apologize to the helpless animals he brutalized and killed? There’s a special place in hell for barbarians such as him, and redemption is not a possibility.

By Animal Lover

August 20, 2007 3:54 PM | Link to this

Lying Thug should be put in a cell with hungry pit bulls. See if he can hold his own against them. He should be put away long enough that no one can mistakenly count him as a role model for anything. All those who said innocent until proven guilty should shut up now - he copped to it - story over.

By Brownthrasher

August 20, 2007 3:55 PM | Link to this

No one should smile on another man’s misfortune. I am sure that many of the Falcons are glad that Vick didn’t go to court because they surely would have been called in and had to admit that they too have been to a dogfight and probably bet on them. That’s why they have been so tight-lipped. But of course, Vick can redeem himself. As long as the media doesn’t carryon this crucifixion. You helped murder the man now see if you can ressurrect him. I hope he takes time to understand the lesson in all of this. I have already forgiven him and am ready to put this story to bed. Thanks for the excitement and I hope you come back to the NFL. If not, forgive yourself, and love in peace. You are not alone.

By Shawn

August 20, 2007 3:55 PM | Link to this

You guys that keep saying it’s no biggie because he didn’t kill a human being need to wake up. IT’S THE LAW! Kidnapping doesn’t result in death, neither does bank robbery, but they are LAWS that you have to live by. To do what he did to those dogs with the hanging, drowning, and electrocution shows nothing but a sociopath and I’m glad he’s going to go to prison and maybe get the help he needs.

By Adam Douglas

August 20, 2007 3:55 PM | Link to this

For Vick, to play both sides of the fence tells you how important football is to him. However, hopefully when he does serve his time, he will understand the severity of the crimes he committed. If he serves his time, he should be afforded the ability to apply for reinstatement to the league.

However, Vick being reinstated to the NFL will be dubious at best as he lied to both Goodell and Blank. In addition, his skills would be greatly diminished by being incarcerated. In my opinion, he played his last down.

Ironically, the dogs that he mistreated are now responsible for one of the greatest falls in NFL history. Michael Vick is a convicted felon. He will never play again in the NFL.

By todd

August 20, 2007 3:55 PM | Link to this

the folks in america are very forgiving and just like every other pro athlete or celebrity type he will be back…another NFL team will give him a chance or he will be a TV personality on some football TV show…the falcons are the ones who will suffer most , much more than Vick, he has set this franchise back ten years…

By ATTENTION: THINK ABOUT IT

August 20, 2007 3:57 PM | Link to this

Would you just let him off?

What an idiot you are.

By Sloan

August 20, 2007 3:57 PM | Link to this

Once again the race card gets played. For the love of G-d people. This man broke the law. He tortured and killed innocent living creatures. Doesn’t matter if they were dogs, people, cats, birds, or lizards. They are living creatures that were tortured and killed in incredibly brutal inhumane ways. You freaks that keep saying they are dogs and not people have the moral values of Vick and I can only blame that on your upbringing. Your parents should be ashamed of themselves for raising you with such low values of life. Those of you that keep playing the race card, I say up yours. Play it all you want. Protect your sick twisted brother because he is black. You are also the ones that probably cheered in jubilation when OJ was found not guilty of butchering two white people, one who was the mother of his two children. Those cheers from you were only because the black man got away with killing whitey. You are the same people that keep driving the wedge in between whites and blacks and then you blame whitey for race problems. This city/state/country is so infested with reverse racism and you racist African Americans keep blaming whitey for race problems. Look in the mirror. Vick is a thug and you should be ashamed of him for what he has done and stop blaming whitey for persecuting him. HE BROKE THE LAW and HE TORTURED AND KILLED INNOCENT LIVING CREATURES!

By Nan

August 20, 2007 3:57 PM | Link to this

Maybe - if he ever manages to grow up and take responsibility for his own actions.

BTW, anyone else wondering just how many other celebrities we’re going to see doing a perp walk related to dogfighting? Vick’s friends sold him out pretty fast… so who did Vick drop a dime on as part of his deal?

By chasity nicole

August 20, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this

Come on redeem himself from what and to whom…who made dog lovers GOD…Get a life people..There is poverty…there are illness…there are homeless people…don’t we have real problems to be concerned with..what have you gained from this..nothing…taking a youngs man life away from him…what a red neck society….

By Shawn

August 20, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this

All of you that think he should be free because he plays for your favorite team are pathetic. Would you be carrying the torch for him if he was a Green Bay Packer or a 49er? No! You’d be right there piling on him with everybody else. Get a grip!

By Vick Fan

August 20, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this

Michael Vick, with the right people around him and guidance, can and will recover from this. All of you people who would condemn a man to destitution for dog fighting should be ashamed of yourselves. If Vic was an average joe we wouldn’t even be discussing this. I don’t see people rallying around and protesting for the families of those who get mauled and killed by the same dogs Michael Vick is accused of killing.

By carolyn

August 20, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this

yes micheal vick will redeem himself.

By Larry

August 20, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this

Forgive him yes, if he repents. Reward him, by letting him play football, no.

By Greg

August 20, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this

I am so glad that none of the naysayers is God because throwing people out, talking about they cannot be redeemed is absurd. Yes, Vick should be punished for whatever part he played in this crime, but he CAN be redeemed. He has to ask for redemption. He has to work extremely hard to build trust again. Can it be done? Yes. Is it going to be difficult? Yes, but it can be done. We are so quick to judge other people and not allow them second chances. What if God was like that? (Or whatever you call your higher being) I’m pretty sure we have all made our mistakes that we regret. I just hope that Vick learns from his mistakes, complete his time, and move on with his life. Give the man another chance.

By Lloyd Dobler

August 20, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this

Not a chance.

By John Smith

August 20, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this

Where are the Vick defenders now?

By Terrible Fans

August 20, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this

Don’t come back.

For those of you who only supported the Falcons because the QB was black, Don’t come back to the dome. Don’t EVER come back. If you can only support the hometown team because of the color of the person under center, I never EVER want to see you supporting the team again. You are no better than the people in Philly who booed Randal Cunningham when he played for the Eagles because he wasn’t white. Keep your broke, fair weather butts at home. Quit calling 790 and complaining. Stay away and quit ruining the team I love

Don’t come back.

By Jack

August 20, 2007 3:59 PM | Link to this

ToThink about it——-blacks will remain 2nd class as long as they refuse to recognize right from wrong and see everything as black and white Being Black is no excuse and playing it like is is,only demeans you

By July Jones

August 20, 2007 3:59 PM | Link to this

Vick can redeem himself but a few things are not going to happen.

This is just like Mike Tyson. Tyson was never the same fighter after prison as he was before. He completely lost his mystique and his edge.

Vick will never be the same quaterback after a prison term.

By Slapnuts

August 20, 2007 3:59 PM | Link to this

Vick will eventually find forgiveness if he follows some guidelines. 1) Apologize for his actions. 2) Proclaim he has found God. 3) Big donations to animal groups. 4) Have Jesse Jackson in his corner. Vick will never play for the Falcons. He will play for another team. Our society is very forgiving to those who admit fault.

By DARN WHITE FOLKS

August 20, 2007 3:59 PM | Link to this

Don’t White Folk know it’s too much to ask for a black man to be a good citizen and a roll model. What do they expect from us?

By bert

August 20, 2007 3:59 PM | Link to this

Vick can redeem himself, but he needs to tell the truth. He only accepted this plea, because he saw it would get him less jail time. He will never redeem himself in my eyes personally because he is a spoiled corward who has no regard for life. But… in the worlds eyes, he can. Time heals almost eveything.

By Brownthrasher

August 20, 2007 4:00 PM | Link to this

Only in America is a man’s llife worth nothing. A woman murders her husand and gets 64 days in prison. Now you want to throw the book at Vick. I will wear my Vick jersey but it won’t be to any Falcons games. I am appalled at how Arthur Blank and his teammates have responded. I’m with Alicia, Screw the Falcons and the NFl and Goodell and all of the Judas in this country.

By Zeek

August 20, 2007 4:00 PM | Link to this

If the Falcons let him go……..I will never support them again……

By Georgia Peach to the Bone.

August 20, 2007 4:02 PM | Link to this

The person that said ” they hope he gets what he deserves in prison” needs to shut up. You do not know what all the circumstances are behind him pleading guilty. If yoiu were in his shoes and your so called buddies turned states witness on you, you would have no other choice but to plead guilty too. All of yo “FAIR WEATHER FANS” need to think about the fact that at least with Vick playing we were able to get a couple Monday night games in. Where we were able to get some coverage, with no BLACK OUTS. Now we are back to where we started,” SORRY AZZ, WANT NOBODY COME & SEE, CAN’T GIVE A TICKET AWAY FALCONS”. Think about it, MIKE VICK was the FALCONS. I don’t care no ones says all of you know it, the falcons are nothing without VICK. Just look at there record the year he hurt his leg, they were the sorriest team in the NFL. Now they are really going to be sorry. At least that year people still came to see the games, now you will not be able to give a ticket away, because I know I would not want to come and see them.

A LOYAL MIKE VICK SUPPORTER.

By fatz

August 20, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this

we don’t need to forgive him. he needs to ask God Almighty to forgive him, and then he needs to forgive himself. and there is NO faking it when it comes to forgiving one’s self. THAT requires a change of heart, or else its just a bluff. and we can all sense a bluffer, just as we can all sense sincerity. we all screw up, every day. he can rise from this, but he won’t look exactly the way he thinks he will when its over. and he has to accept that and use if for good. he needs to reach out to the right people now- Warrick Dunn comes to mind..

By Eli

August 20, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this

What a waste of tremendous talent. Mike Vick has done countless good things on and off the field, but he will be most remembered for what he is at his core: a person who is capable of being entertained by watching dogs violently tear each other to pieces. Entertained by strangling, shooting and drowning dogs that fell beneath the killer standard he raised them achieve. If Mr. Vick wants to play football again (if he gets out of prison while still in his 30’s) he must do as others have already stated - take a position of open and honest responsibility for his actions and offer an apology for his actions. Even then, Mr. Vick will always be a man who likes to watch dogs die a violent death. What a waste.

By Sloan

August 20, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this

Hey RACHELLE. Since you obviously only have the black version of Websters Dictionary and what whitey means when he says certain words, let me give you the real definition of THUG: A cutthroat or ruffian; a hoodlum
It has absolutely nothing to do with the “N” word, but if you draw that conclusion, then that is your own racist views.

By Bob

August 20, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this

I knew this would turn into a race thing just like with OJ!

By Bruce

August 20, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this

To all the African-American and other Mike Vick fans: Why don’t you direct your anger and hostility toward Mike himself? He’s the one who self-imploded.

By Buh-bye, buh-bye

August 20, 2007 4:04 PM | Link to this

Race pandering idiots: the hillbillies in north Georgia and elsewhere also go to jail for ILLEGAL dogfighting and ILLEGAL gambling and ILLEGAL dog abuse and killing. It’s NOT about race already you mindless morons. ILLEGAL is ILLEGAL! Now GET OVER YOURSELVES!

By bert

August 20, 2007 4:04 PM | Link to this

By the way. I notice alot of posts in here discussing race. Why is this even a race issue? A grown male American citizen knowingly commited a felony and lied about it. Then when he saw he was about to get busted, he magically plead guilty. It not a race issue in my eyes, only an issue of a coward who does not respect life.

By Brownthrasher

August 20, 2007 4:04 PM | Link to this

Why would the AJC find a story about Vick getting a $50 seat belt citation so newsworthy? Because they have been in on the Get Rid fo Vick parade since he became the quarterback. Now that he has pleaded will you please find some real sports stories to write about? And who will your backstabbing Terrence Moore go after now?

By hoothoo of KC

August 20, 2007 4:04 PM | Link to this

First off, he who knows no sin cast the first stone. It is so easy to judge someone else but we all have fallen short. Maybe not in this area but in some area of our lives. So lets stop pointing the finger until we look at our own short commings. Vick if you read these comments I would like to say “yes! I’m dissappointed in the fact that you have been made to tell the truth.” But I support you still because you have a lot of people judging you when they couldn’t walk 2 feet in your shoes. I’m not saying that you should feel sorry for your life style growing up but I understand what you’ve been exposed to. I’ll continue to pray for you because I think that you have learned from this mistake and all you have to do is ask God for forgiveness and that’s all that matters. Forget what everyone else says we will all have are true day of judgement. So dust yourself off and keep your head up because you have a God given gift now just use it for his glory not your own. God Bless.

By Beck

August 20, 2007 4:04 PM | Link to this

You’d think he actually killed another human being (a la Rae Carruth)… but he was fighting dogs (or at least sponsoring this illegal endeavor). Either way, since the feds were about to “pile on” more charges.. he did the smart thing… take a plea… considering that the ones actually running the day-to-day operations have already worked theirs out and planned to blame it all on Mike. Yes, he’s an idiot. Yes, he should have distanced himself from his friends. But should he spend the rest of his life in jail?? Absolutely not. Child molesters spend less time in prison.

By ATLBoy

August 20, 2007 4:05 PM | Link to this

What choice did he have? Sorry to say this but in this F—-up world that we live in, it may have been better to drive drunk and kill a person, or simply kill a person, or rape an individual or better yet leave a entire city of people stranded for 3 to 4 days without food and water, than to be allegedly involved in dog fighting and harming of animals. Well all of you Vick haters have gotten your wish, he’s out of Atlanta and the Falcons will be no more than the Falcons that wore the red jerseys and played in Fulton County stadium. There goes the sell outs.

By TheTruthHurts

August 20, 2007 4:06 PM | Link to this

HELL NO!! Vick is a Lying Thug Murderer and will never be looked at as anything different…I hope he gets booted from the NFL he deserves all the bad things that happen to him…I dont remember hearing that Vick gave the dogs who lost a fight a second chance…so why should he get one?? What a punk!!!!

By melvin

August 20, 2007 4:07 PM | Link to this

With a little time in the pen, he can work on his game against some good athletes on the prison team, develop some new moves and come out better than ever, ready to make more millions! The Raiders will sign him—they like the gangsta playa baby!!!!

By Taylor Made It

August 20, 2007 4:08 PM | Link to this

Anything is Possible…….Anything

By Gwen

August 20, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this

YES!!

By Hillbilly

August 20, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this

Yes, yes. Mike and his pals were just poor misguided youth, from disadvantaged backgrounds. I am certain they will be shining success stories, to show others how to pull yourself up from the depths and become a viable and valuable member of society. Give them time, give them yet another chance, i’ll be watching him to be sure he stays on the straight and narrow!

-Santa Claus

By Sunshyne

August 20, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this

I really do not understand the comments of some that make it seem as Michael Vick did something to a human being, raped a woman, killed a man, molested a child, got drunk and killed someone… He should be given another chance sooner than later!

I guess no one noticed that Arthur Blank and Rich McKay had just come from an African Safari… ISN’T THAT HUNTING AND KILLING ANIMALS?? What’s the difference? Oh, I forgot hunting where human beings go out with a dog trained to kill and hunt for the animals… then once the animal is found, the human kills the animal by shooting in the head, hanging with traps and or drowning to take the rest of the life out of the animal… The person with the biggest and best animal wins the prize… GAMBLING…

Oh, that’s a RICH MAN’s SPORT, not considered a crime…

By Nisha

August 20, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this

He can redeem himself in the eyes of his family and GOD. He doesn’t owe his fans anything but a good game. For all of you who say he should be banned from football, What does Dog Fighting Have To Do With Football. When he serve his time the slate should be wiped clean. Remember he is very talanted. If he is banned from football he can play MLB.

By Merriam-Webster

August 20, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this

thug - a brutal ruffian or assassin: GANGSTER, KILLER

Well Rachelle, if the definition fits…

oh, in case you were wondering,

ruffian - a brutal person

By Nickie

August 20, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this

He has squandered a remarkable talent that earned him nearly unlimited opportunities and a hugh salary. He appeared early on to be a perfect role model to young men trying to rise above a tough early life. I am an animal lover and what he personnally did to some is unspeakable but even more important is his complete abdication of the opportunity to show young people in tought circumstances that they can rise above it and be a contributing force for good in their community. That is unforgivable.

By steveO

August 20, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this

“if it looks like one, sounds like one it must be one” vick is a thug with money. This would make sicko vick a super thug. Hey Vick, “Go quiely into the night”

By ISIDIGO

August 20, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this

I am african american and I am partial to the whole thing. Yes i think he is guilty but i hate this black is wrong white is right thing. Yes he didn’t kill a human but he did kill a living thing that relied on him for survial. He is high profile so anything he does is high profile. He is a dumb Human regardless of Race. Why set up a illegal operation in a state where it is a felony. I dont’ condone dogfighting but he would have been better off setting up shop in GA where the law on everyone is one big Joke. SO to me he is not being procecuted cause of what he did he it is cause he is STUPID. Life most african americans in Atlanta from Atlanta I grew up in a Majority black area in the suburbs. Early on my parents taugh me that if you there are some friends you carry with you through out life and there are some because of their demeanor and mentality that you just have to let go. Michael Vick and his brother seem to not have learned that lesson.

By rarringt

August 20, 2007 4:10 PM | Link to this

First,

It’s not like the President’s been impeached. Although a very talented athlete, Vick made a lot of money playing a game. A children’s game at that, albeit at a higher level.

He’s not a role model. No athlete is, at least not solely on the basis of their athleticism.

What he’s pleading guilty to was barbaric, but let’s keep in mind not particular to any race or ethnic group, as many have been alluding to. Vick is black, but most attendees at these functions are not (I’ll give you three guesses as to their race, but imagine you’ll only need one).

Finally, let me restate football is only a game. It’s not some funky metaphor for life, and not something you should devote yours to.

Get over it. Get over him, and you’ll be much better for it. Really.

By NATIVE

August 20, 2007 4:10 PM | Link to this

Certainly, if the “barbie bandits” can get jobs after robbing a bank and GW Bush can still be in the White House after sending soldiers to be killed, why can’t Mike Vick be redeemed? On another note, I always thought it strange that ESPN(media) can show footage of dog fights(not Vick’s dogs, mind you)to sway emotion, yet the same media is told by the government not to show photos of actual soldiers getting blown up in combat! Where would nightly conversation be if that were allowed?

By Cassy

August 20, 2007 4:10 PM | Link to this

He certainly can. Every last one of us can redeem ourselves after making mistakes in life. What he has done will not seem so bad once someone else does something worse than he has and it makes the headlines.

By b

August 20, 2007 4:10 PM | Link to this

NO….that plus being a va tech alumni makes his days numbered….

By Vick Supporter

August 20, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this

As all the white people know, I still support Mike Vick, because he’s still a brother to all of us African-Americans. We don’t turn on our own. We still love him. He plead guilty and he should pay his debt to society. Do I think he can redeem himself? With the help of GOD, YES! Anything is possible with HIM. America, or should I say GOD gives people second chances all the time. We know 95% of whites will condemn him, they get joy out of this somehow. We as African-Americans are very saddened that this happened. He needs to hold a press conference and just let it all out. We’re with you Mike Vick.

By Peggy

August 20, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this

I certainly don’t forgive him. Not only did he “do the deed”, he lied about it. What kind of example is this for young people? Not a very good one. I think the Atlanta Falcons would be doing a disservice to not only the other Falcon team members, but to the city of Atlanta as well.

By andre thompson

August 20, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this

yes he will rebound from this and move on with his life. only if he cuts ties with the bad seeds in his life.

By RBM

August 20, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this

Banned for life from the NFL…. Last week the statement was “I look forward to clearing my good name. The Falcons will wait for the NFL to suspend him before they let him go..this way they can go after his 22 million signing bonus. I guess Nike is real proud now.

By Gwen

August 20, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this

You have to forgive to be forgiven.

By PinkSherbert

August 20, 2007 4:11 PM | Link to this

Yes…people deserve second chases. Those who cheat, gamble, etc.

But to kill and torture a defenseless animal?? Never…

The only thing Michael Vick will be known as is a convicted felon. What a terrible waste of talent.

By Rick

August 20, 2007 4:13 PM | Link to this

It really doesn’t matter that much. There are some that will forever view Vick as a low-life “thug” who squandered an amazing talent. There will be others that will forever see Vick as a black man persecuted by a white, racist society. There will be very few people in between.

By U dumb arses

August 20, 2007 4:13 PM | Link to this

Vick is in trouble with the feds over the illegal gambling operation he ran more so than the dog fighting. The dog fighting is bringing in the public outcry and the state of Virginia, but not the feds. So before everyone tries to create another race war over this, read the articles and get your facts straight. Vick F’ed up and lied about it to everyone including YOU. Besides, the Falcons were garbage with him and now they’ll be even worse without him. Hey Rich and Arthur, way to go on getting rid of Schaub.

By Plain Truth

August 20, 2007 4:13 PM | Link to this

Can Michael Vick redeem himself?

In a word: no.

There is no cure for Vick’s problem.

He would have already been serving time for something else if it had not been for VT football and the Falcons’ money.

He will be back behind bars for something else within 5 years of the time he finishes his sentence.

By Georgia Peach to the Bone.

August 20, 2007 4:13 PM | Link to this

To: GaDawg, How can you make such a racist remark. All people in the Black Community try to do everything they can to raise their children, and believe it or not there are women in the Black community that have husbands and are dong well for themselves. You can make it seem that all black peolpe are like Vick, true he made a mistake and he needs to do whatever he can to fix it. But for you to say that the black community thinks that having babies out wedlock is cool is completly wrong and prejudice. You don’t know for sure if your parents were married when you were born, you just know what they told you. So, before you start picking bones out of someone else’s closet, you need to make sure you don’t trip over your bones. YOU NEED TO CHECK YOURS OUT FIRST.

You really need to think about the things that you say…… IGNORANT AS HELL , THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE.!!!!!1

By Jojo

August 20, 2007 4:13 PM | Link to this

I am so tired of comments about the entire black community whenever someone who happens to be black gets in trouble. Why is this not applied to a white person who gets in trouble? I am acquainted with many black families with two parents and professional careers. The few single parents that I know stem from divorce and a death of the spouse. No different than the white families that I know. Why does everyone think they’re an expert in the lives of strangers by virtue of their skin color?

By NYgal

August 20, 2007 4:13 PM | Link to this

Vick is a dumbass. I work so hard everyday to pay my bills and raise my child on a pittance. And here he is being paid MILLIONS to play a game! And he blows it all to torture animals. Vick kept making one bad decision after another because of his arrogance. He refused to humble himself and believe that he could lose it all. A little humility and gratitude for his good fortune would have gone a long way in preventing the stupidity that he is embroiled in now. Michael Vick is an embarrassment to the black community. And to all the black radio stations, please stop asking us to “stand behind a brother.” My brothers work hard every day, make wise decisions and take responsibility for their mistakes.

By to alicia

August 20, 2007 4:13 PM | Link to this

your a moron! and rachelle thug is used to decribe thugish behavior it not white people fault that our athletes dont get in trouble as much as blacks do. there are plenty of thugish white people they just rarly are any good at sports.

By Akagi

August 20, 2007 4:14 PM | Link to this

Right Jimmy, and OJ was framed too and the real killers are lurking on the Florida links that OJ keeps showing up on.

As for Vick being redeemed? Well unless the NFL bans him, expect to see him again if some team is willing to take a chance—Oakland and the Ravens seem very fond about taking on other people’s problems.

If Vick can lead a team to wins those fans won’t really care about the past. Winning has a way of making people forget very easily. But he is done in Atlanta and you can forget any endorsement deals no matter how much he says he is sorry.

People aren’t going to have dog killers as pitching their product.

By bushwacker

August 20, 2007 4:14 PM | Link to this

Blank has a chance now to get some fans back by cutting him IMMEDIATELY and FIRING Rich McKay for being the only person on earth who did not see something else coming.

By Mark

August 20, 2007 4:14 PM | Link to this

Like Dave Chappelle said, this is a perfect example of “WHEN KEEPIN’ IT REAL GOES WRONG!!”

After about 18 months he will be forgotten like Rae Carruth.

Dummy

By jinetta

August 20, 2007 4:14 PM | Link to this

I FEEL SORRY FOR MIKE HE MADE MISTAKE GET A LIFE PEOPLE NOBODY IS PERFECT. MIKE PRAY AND MY GOD AND YOUR GOD WILL SEE YOU THROUGH!

By Soco

August 20, 2007 4:14 PM | Link to this

Yes he can. Wouldn’t you?

Dogs are killed everyday at the horse track when they can no longer perform. People go and bet on them also.

Are you upset because he did it or you could not bet on it?

By TheTruthHurts

August 20, 2007 4:14 PM | Link to this

It amazes me how stupid people are like the idiots on this blog that rant on and one that its a set up and vick was framed by white america….Dont these stupid people realize the reason they are such a failure in life is because they refuse to take responsibility for what happens tio them in life? I guess they will continue to work at Mcdonalds drive through for the rest of their life and blame all their failures on the white man keeping them down!!! LOSERS!!!!!!!!! LOL

By Vick Fan is RIGHT

August 20, 2007 4:15 PM | Link to this

Hey Vick Fan - you are RIGHT! If Vick was an average joe his a$$ would already be sitting in a jail cell. Good grief you are stupid…

By Bubba

August 20, 2007 4:15 PM | Link to this

Hi Y’all! I don’t think Mike will be redeemed in the ATL. I don’t think he will be with the Falcons very shortly. I think that Arthur has seen and heard enough that the ties will be cut, swiftly and severely. I think Goodell will deal with him as does Blank. Somewhere around 2009 or 2010, he might get a chance, but with who and where will be the big issues. Say goodbye to the Big A, Michael…

By Magneto

August 20, 2007 4:15 PM | Link to this

Brownthrasher and Zeek,

You are as stupid as Vick is. This team bent over backwards to keep Vick. Blank has shown support for his QB throughout the entire time he was here, even during injury. Vick admitted his guilt, that’s who you should be upset with dumba$$!

By Dawgs2007

August 20, 2007 4:15 PM | Link to this

The judge is going to rain down upon him with a vengence. He does not have any friends and his money cannot buy this judge.

This judge was appointed my George W. Bush and he means business.

By Big Pudge

August 20, 2007 4:15 PM | Link to this

I gotta agree with Morris…..By morris

August 20, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this

the man didnt kill a human…regardless if how terrible the killing of dogs are…but let keep it in perspective,,,,he didnt kill a person…this get more attention then the 3 students killing exucution-style shooting in new jersey…how sad is that!…..I it was sad but it was a DOG.

By Bird Backer

August 20, 2007 4:16 PM | Link to this

Zeek - do you still not get it? He is pleading guilty to felony charges. The Falcons will really have no choice. You are a Vick fan not a Falcon fan - so who cares.

By Rawhide

August 20, 2007 4:16 PM | Link to this

He can find redemption with Jesus Christ, however, if Jesus isn’t the GM of an NFL franchise then his playing career is toast.

By George

August 20, 2007 4:17 PM | Link to this

Yes. Americans believe in redeption. He needs to be humble, honest and accept responsibility. If he does, people will accept that he was punished for something he admited to and they will move on.

By Ryno

August 20, 2007 4:17 PM | Link to this

Redeem himself?

I’d be more impressed if Vick completed more than 47% of his passes. Wow, the Birds lost an average quarterback, big deal. We were 7-9 last year…That stinks, I don’t want to stay that way.

This will make the Falcons better. 2 good drafts in a row and the Falcons will be back in the playoffs.

The guy who said that blacks should stay away from the dome if they were only coming because the QB was black was 100% right.

By Andy

August 20, 2007 4:17 PM | Link to this

No he can’t and these media reports calling this White Monday sure aren’t going to help his cause.

Even if he plays again he’ll never get another lucrative sponsorship deal (or any sponsorship for that matter) then couple that with back-up quarterback pay and there’s not much money left over after taxes, attorneys, agent and handlers.

Stick a fork in Vick because he’s done!

By Rain

August 20, 2007 4:17 PM | Link to this

Redeem himself? What a stupid question.
I just hope that his sentence not only includes a hefty jail time, and an NFL lifetime ban, but he should be made to pay the Humane Societies in each state $1MM each to help with spay and neuter programs. That’s a lot of money, but he has a lot of money. We can’t go back and save those poor dogs lives, but we can save many, many, more and keep others from abusing them the way Mike did. Mike should be used for the greater good. Let’s turn around his evilness and make him do something good. Don’t wait for him to “redeem” himself. Use him as an example for others. Arthur Blank is probably embarassed, disgusted, and mad at himself for putting so much faith in Mike and letting the world see it. Most owners are in the owners box strategically surveying the game. Arthur was pushing Mike’s wheelchair when he broke his leg. That was embarrasing enough to see. Let’s hope Arthur has learned something as well and will be a much better owner.

By babyphat

August 20, 2007 4:18 PM | Link to this

if you are not without sin cast the first stone…its ashame that an animal has more rights than a human being….lets not forget black america..we do not have a law passed to vote…only an amendment..we were put on blocks to be sold,tortured, and dehumanized…by the very ones that comment on this blogs forefathers…we comment about the killings of dogs (animals) but there are animals that are raised to die..what about those? where is justice for them…pit bulls are NOT family dogs they are fighting dogs..they were brought over seas by white america strictly for fighting..but when black america got involved it became a problem..what happens to greyhounds when they no longer perform well? what about racing horses? hmm makes you think? Michael Vick became a threat to White America time he stepped onto the field. He will Redeem himself!

By vicksburg

August 20, 2007 4:18 PM | Link to this

He should have apologized when he was 1st accused of the crime…instead of lying….etc.

By Angela

August 20, 2007 4:18 PM | Link to this

This is about race no matter how we put it. White folks can shoot ducks all day, but when you fight pit bull aganist pit bull it is a crime. Where is the outrage when we are shooting ducks for the fun of it.

By bushwacker

August 20, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this

HE WILL NEVER PLAY AGAIN and anyone who thinks he will is dumber than he is!!!

By Joe Don Baker

August 20, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this

Pipe down Rachelle, the term seems to be directed to this particular group because this group has used it to define itself on NUMEROUS occasions. Ever listen to hip hop? “Gimme som of that Thu-uh-uhg passion” The guy who wrote that was a self-proclaimed thug — just check that big tatt on his stomach in case you have any doubts.

Dogfighting is thuggish behavior.

By Animalist

August 20, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this

I agree with several readers that his career ought to be over. As for his cruel treatment of animals, (and I feel that the word “cruel” is an understatement), Mr. Vick must be treated fairly and punished like many others guilty of such crimes. These punishments include all of the following: prison time, psychiatric evaluation, counseling, community service, severe fines (with the $ going to animal shelters), and a sincere public apology. The apology is for those of us (and we’re an ever-increasing number) in America who do not make distinctions between species in terms of suffering. All cruelty is bad, toward human and non-human animals alike. Intolerance toward animal cruelty is growing. We have changed. Mike Vick and the others MUST be punished, and then educated. Perhaps you as well, dear reader.

By Allen

August 20, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this

No apology in the world will overcome the violent death of 8 dogs, the GAMBLING, the running of a criminal enterprise, or the lies he’s told to everyone.

He’s going to jail for probably 24 months or longer, and it’s not enough.

Remember a few days ago, when Arthur Blank said the Falcons would act decisively in the event of a plea? Watch my words: the Falcons will cut him and go to court to get a prorated portion of their signing bonus back.

And they will win. He’ll not only be in jaily, he’ll be broke…and he deserves worse than that.

By Ed

August 20, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this

Vick is down for the full count. His career is at an end. Sadly, he is one among many young black people who misunderstand the legacy of the civil rights movement. It did not confer upon them the right to thumb their noses at the law. What they overlook is the fact that the movement came about as a tool of enforcing unjust laws that had been overturned by the Supreme Court. Disobey the law and you’ll be keeping company with Vick behind bars.

By bustaHustler

August 20, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this

redemption…it going to be tough well, Michael Vick is going to get what he deserves for breaking the law, dog fighting is a crime and killing dogs is a hateful and very cruel thing… But let me put this in perspective though…killing dogs is criminal ok but what about killing AN INNOCENT BLACK MAN IN NY…its ALRIGHT IF A POLICE OFFICER PUMPS 50 BULLETS AND KILLS AN INNOCENT BLACK MAN ON THE EVE OF HIS WEDDING DAY… naaah its not that bad and especially if you are a white police officer…all you are going to get is a few days suspension…man GOD BLESS THE LAW… and the people…naah they are not gonna make big deal out of it…its alright AFTER ALL A BLACK MAN DIED…for CHRIST’S SAKE IT WASN’T A DOG, IT WAS JUST A BLACK MAN

By Kathi

August 20, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this

Can Vick undo the pain he caused those dogs? No, he can never truly redeem himself. But if he regrets what he has done and not just getting caught at it, he could make a large donation toward pit bull rescue and dogfighting investigations.

By Taylor Made

August 20, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this

I don’t know what is wrong with many of you who think just because Vick was “black” we automatically supported him. That is pure Bull and you should really think about your comments before you make one. This is truly sad that “You People” still pull the race card. Let it rest! Go kick rocks or do us all a favor and lose yourself.

By Roof

August 20, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this

So do the Falcons get any cap relief at all? It’s far too late to do anything about Michael Vick’s situation, but having some room to sign a talented QB as a replacement or as a quality backup would be nice, especially now that Shockley has gone down for the year.

I don’t condone any illegal act that Vick committed, but it’s time to look forward, rather than express a desire for vengeance. Is anyone familiar enough with NFL cap rules to say what the financial consequences of Vick’s likely NFL suspension will be for the Falcons?

By Gwen

August 20, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this

white folk use to put dogs on black folk. where was peta then?

By Chereese

August 20, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this

WWJD? He would forgive Michael Vick. So those who claim to walking in christ, need to ask to yourselves are you acting christ like. Yes he can be forgiving.

By Zeek

August 20, 2007 4:20 PM | Link to this

Jack,

I don’t know what you think…….but African Americans are not 2nd class now! That was a very racist statement.
I am trying to be good on this thread…….i haven’t yet mentioned the kidnappings, murders and rapes that our founding fathers did to black people in the past…….Who paid for those crimes……….NOBODY! We can’t even an apology for slavery, so MV………..do your time and keep your head up!

By mike

August 20, 2007 4:20 PM | Link to this

GADAWG,

I have to disagree with your opinion that Blacks have no roll models. There have been plenty. One needs to look no farther then Tiger Woods here is a man that show class and intelligence and is ignored by the black community because he isn’t a thug wannabe gangster. The roles models are out there but in the black community it’s better to be looked as a tough guy then a smart guy. One doesn’t need to look any farther then the Vick supporters on these blogs to see that the black community continually struggles with trying to figure out the difference between right and wrong.

By LaLaMeeka Chadwalli

August 20, 2007 4:20 PM | Link to this

Is it just me, or does anyone else find this entire episode very, very funny? You just can’t make this stuff up. Who, in their right mind, would risk a very profitable career just to have a few bets on whether your dog can kill another dog. This just cracks me up!

By Jean

August 20, 2007 4:20 PM | Link to this

Michael has already redeemed himself to the LORD. This plea is an atonement. As for as being redeemed by the people, it doesn’t matter to me. Our father loves him no matter what and he has been forgiven. I hope that the FALCONS understand people make mistakes. For those of you who wants to spend your money somewhere else, go right ahead. I prefer not to see you at the DOME anyway. Like you’re perfect, please.

By Ann

August 20, 2007 4:20 PM | Link to this

To GADawg… so white people aren’t having babies out of wedlock? Really? Matt Leinart, Tom Brady, Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt; Goldie Hawn and Kurt Russell; Madonna; Gwyneth Paltrow (oldest child born before married Chris Martin; Elizabeth Hurley; Heidi Klum—ALL WHITE!!! So, please get off your moral high horse….. there’s just as much dysfunction in the white community as with any other. You just get divorced and re-married multiple times… but I guess that’s more stable… get clue, Sherlock.

By vicksburg

August 20, 2007 4:21 PM | Link to this

If we can forgive Imus….and the American public for voting Bush in…than I say Mike has a chance in Oakland….

By Becky

August 20, 2007 4:21 PM | Link to this

This isn’t about redemption. This is about lying, covering up the truth and trying to beat the system that the rest of us “mere mortals” have to adhere to. Because of his “superhero” status, he thought he was above the law. I’m over all the hype of Hollywood DUI’s,drug use,Wrestling Steroid Users and all other professional athletes that think they are better than everyone and deserve special treatment.

By martin

August 20, 2007 4:21 PM | Link to this

Hey Jimmy,

How can this be a set-up if the thug just admitted his guilt. Is he setting himself up? You’re an idiot!

By Jim Andrews

August 20, 2007 4:21 PM | Link to this

Can he be forgiven? The answer is yes.

But as a country we need to think about the culture that drives multi-millionaires who chase street credibility more than anything else in life.

You’ve got P-Diddy carrying guns into clubs, recording artists dressing like drug dealers, and now Mike Vick. Vick didn’t invent this ghetto fabulous culture, he simply followed it.

Being a millionaire wasn’t enough. Vick needed street respect in order to feel good about himself. How sad is that.

If hundreds of millions of dollars can’t lift a person above street drama like guns and dog fighting, then what hope do normal young black males have?

Most people want to earn millions to escape all the street drama. Instead, these guys want the millions so that they can be the biggest thug or pimp they can be.

By Annette LeBlanc

August 20, 2007 4:21 PM | Link to this

How can a person redeem himself after such cruelty to animals. What he did is unforgivable. Hopefully, if something good can come out of this, it would be the exposure of such a sub-human form of entertainment that shows a total lack of care or compassion for these innocent animals. For those who dismiss this by saying at least he didn’t do it to humans, keep in mind that most of our serial killers started with cruelty to animals.

By Becky

August 20, 2007 4:22 PM | Link to this

This isn’t about redemption. This is about lying, covering up the truth and trying to beat the system that the rest of us “mere mortals” have to adhere to. Because of his “superhero” status, he thought he was above the law. I’m over all the hype of Hollywood DUI’s,drug use,Wrestling Steroid Users and all other professional athletes that think they are better than everyone and deserve special treatment.

By Joe

August 20, 2007 4:22 PM | Link to this

Sure he can redeem himself. But it might not be on a football field. He lied to Goodell and in the end, that will prove to be a costly, and perhaps his biggest error in judgement. Goodell means business and MV will pay a serious price for his dishonesty. Sad as it is, I believe we have seen the last of MV on a football field. Great, great talent, just a bit too cocky for his own good at times. And surrounded himself with losers. I honestly believe, after knowing all that is at stake for him personally (prison time, suspension, end of career, endorsements), he would not plead guilty if he in fact wasn’t. His lawyers would see to that.

By Sylvia R. Williams

August 20, 2007 4:23 PM | Link to this

Michael Vick did not kill a human being, so why are we acting like he did. Michael Vick made a mistake. Why can’t we forgive him. you all that are calling for something harsh to happen to him,let him pay for what he did, and give him another chance, thats what christians do.

By Joanne

August 20, 2007 4:23 PM | Link to this

Mr. Vick said he apologizes to those who were hurt by his actions…how does he intend to apologize to the dogs he killed? He must learn how to value the sanctity of all life and then put that into practice on a daily basis. Contemplating a football career is, considering the scope of his crimes, seems absurd.

By Sanaai

August 20, 2007 4:23 PM | Link to this

We would like to think that $$$$ makes us ‘different’; well, we see/hear too often that it does not. I’m from the North and I can remember folks talkin’ ‘bout dogfighting in the South; I thought that is what folks down here did; Perhaps Mike grew-up around dogfighting/?!!! He’s is young, why not help him to grow to be a better man and understanding all of life/living is precious??!!! Why must we stone him??? We’ve all done something very wrong during life or we will DO something very wrong.. that the ‘world’ won’t know about Let him get a pass (probation) and work with animals (dogs/cats) for a lengthy period and we will set a model for other young, old, men/women to love all a bit more. Then we all gain…

By GeezGuys

August 20, 2007 4:23 PM | Link to this

Nope. He only has a small group of racist supporters who can spit out their little talking points: He didn’t kill a human (so? How lame is that excuse?), rednecks didn’t like a black QB(who just happens to be a black man who is a thug), he made a mistake (like he lost his car keys.)

Attention Vick Jockstrap Carriers: he was involved in gambling. That’s a kiss of death for pro sports. And if he ever was to be allowed to play again (fat chance!) he’d be met with protestors and taunting fans everywhere. You think Mr. Double Bird could control himself? Not a freakin’ chance. He’s got the maturity of a baked potato.

He’s gone. Back to Thugville, baby! Adios Mike, take some of your drones with you!

By Dirk6161

August 20, 2007 4:23 PM | Link to this

Zeek, You’re an idiot. I hope you never come back to a Falcons game,EVER! If you can defend this THUG who tortured innocent dogs (man’s best friend) then you are no better than MV7. Take some responsibility for a change.I am sure you will play the race card and blame everything on whitey just like OJ did…….

By kingfish

August 20, 2007 4:23 PM | Link to this

MV, I don’t know if you read the comments on this blog but I suspect that you do. I would say it would be worth it to listen to what Hollywood Henderson had to say on CNN/ESPN late last week. He made some big mistakes over 20 years ago and he served some time and turned his life around. You have the same chance that he did; the Lord has given you another chance to set everything right. Serve your time, be serious about changing your course for the better and do some things that would help the people or the organizations that you have wronged. You will come out of it, even though scarred, you can come back. Tell the truth, walk in the light and use the bad things that have happened for good. The only person who can pass judgement on you is the person who has never done anything wrong. The Law is the only judge (on this earth) and when it speaks, you have to abide by what they say. Get in touch with Hollywood Henderson and hear what he has to say.

By Johnny FALCON

August 20, 2007 4:24 PM | Link to this

Sure…as a private citizen. NFL is in his past now. No one will take on that media maelstrom. He’ll be suspended for at least 4 years.

Redemption would be there if he truly repented and came out publically against dog fighting, lying, stabbing your owner and team mates in the back…

GO JOEY!!!!!

By Real Falcon Fan

August 20, 2007 4:24 PM | Link to this

GOOD BYE VICK.. AND GOOD BYE THUG FANS THAT FOLLOWED HIM.

Mark my words, the real falcon fans of old will support this NEW team. I have been taking with HUNDREDS of fans that will make a point to show up to the games and support our NEW, LAW FOLLOWING fans. Believe me.. even if ALL 50% of the current dome fans leave.. they will be replaced.

By Paul C.

August 20, 2007 4:24 PM | Link to this

To all the Vick supporters..Mike has a message for you. He said to tell you that he is GUILTY…GUILTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By bustaHustler

August 20, 2007 4:24 PM | Link to this

well, Michael Vick is going to get what he deserves for breaking the law, dog fighting is a crime and killing dogs is a hateful and very cruel thing… But let me put this in perspective though…killing dogs is criminal ok but what about killing AN INNOCENT BLACK MAN IN NY…its ALRIGHT IF A POLICE OFFICER PUMPS 50 BULLETS AND KILLS AN INNOCENT BLACK MAN ON THE EVE OF HIS WEDDING DAY… naaah its not that bad and especially if you are a white police officer…all you are going to get is a few days suspension…man GOD BLESS THE LAW… and the people…naah they are not gonna make big deal out of it…its alright AFTER ALL A BLACK MAN DIED…for CHRIST’S SAKE IT WASN’T A DOG, JUST A BLACK MAN

By Rhett

August 20, 2007 4:24 PM | Link to this

Setup! Framed! Fall guy! Conspiracy!

Horse hockey!

Vick played the fool. Let down his team, coaches and an owner who adored him, tried to mentor him and gave the man an un-freakin’- believeable contract! He chose his ghetto homies to a man who tried to mentor him in how to become a successful human being.

He flushed a winning $130 million dollar lotto ticket down the toilet.

I feel sorry for what Vick did to those who trusted him. As far as he is personally concerned, “frankly, my dear, I don’t give a damn!”

By Nancy Bush

August 20, 2007 4:24 PM | Link to this

It seems to me that he’s still in denial about what he did—and doesn’t seem to have a clue that it was wrong. He had every chance to do the right thing—and now will be just one more black male wearing a prison suit.

By NASDAQ

August 20, 2007 4:25 PM | Link to this

Do you guys find it strange that those sick people on dateline that are caught going to a house to have sex with 13 and 14 year old girls, wont even serve a fraction of the time that Vick will do for sponsoring a dogfighting venture? Vick is wrong for his involvement in this, but what a sick/twisted justice system we have.

By Magneto

August 20, 2007 4:25 PM | Link to this

rarringt,

The color of most attendees is not relevant to this situation. Vick is the one who was financially responsible for the existence that particular operation in Virginia and he is black.

Stop searching for ways to scapegoat the issue.

By MAC

August 20, 2007 4:25 PM | Link to this

thug -n A cutthroat or ruffian; a hoodlum

By ED

August 20, 2007 4:25 PM | Link to this

If Ray Lewis could redeem himself, why can’t Vick?

By SD

August 20, 2007 4:25 PM | Link to this

Yes he will redeem himself. Only God can judge us. All the red necks honkies are probably someone whistling dixie right now because you all (white people) always hated Mike Vick from the beginning because a white man (Arthur Blank) gave a black man 130 million dollars and you all (white people) were sick about that!!!! Mike will come back and I hope all his haters eat his dust when he go to a new team!

By randall c

August 20, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this

As a Repulican in California, I am surprised at the rage people are venting on Vick. He committed a crime. He will be punished for it. I would expect that everyone would be hoping he gets his life turned around after that, with or without football. He is still a young man. Isn’t that what we believe in this country?

By Stan

August 20, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this

Please understand this goes much further than dogfighting. He was apart of a multistate gambling ring, money laudering and racketeering

By reese

August 20, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this

Michael Vick’s redemption will depend on the contents of his guilty plea. If his statement of facts includes personally killing dogs in the manner previously described, he’s done! The American public simply can’t relate to dog fighting, animal abuse, and animal cruelty.

Society forgave Darryl Strawberry, Rob Lowe, Lawrence Taylor, and MaryKate Olsen for their transgressions. Eventually, we’ll even forgive Li-Lo. Because, believe it or not, finer people in society have become hooked on drugs and alcohol. America can relate to their story of suffering and repeatedly forgives them.

Dogfighting, on the other hand, is an unforgivable sin. It’s a practice that’s perpuated in the shadows by the lowest rung of society. The broader public will never be able to relate to Michael Vick’s involvement—particularly if he admits to personally executing dogs. He’ll never be able to shake it. In the eyes of the media and public, he will always be a dog killer.

Even in the Black community, Michael Vick won’t get a free pass to forgiveness. After supporting him through all of the foolishness that surrounded his tenure with the Falcons and throughout his initial denials about his involvement in this case, his plea is a giant slap in the face.

Michael Vick needs emulate Martha Stewart and go to prison, serve his time as a model prisoner, and upon release get right back to the business of playing football. He’ll have to start in the Areana League, come through the CFL, and beg for a shot in the NFL. Unfortunately, if he’s ever able to make it back to that grand stage, he’ll still be reviled as a dog killer!

By jeff

August 20, 2007 4:27 PM | Link to this

Vick is a THUG

By Sheesh

August 20, 2007 4:27 PM | Link to this

Why is OJ always being brought up and what does Vick have to do with him?!! Get over it already!

By Rob

August 20, 2007 4:27 PM | Link to this

why should anyone care , he is only doing this because all the ex-friends,cw’s ,mountains of evidence the feds surely have, have him backed in the corner with no other way to turn .when will you people get it? he’s not remorseful about what he did just that he got caught.now just watch how he acts to all of us he has been lying to.

By John King

August 20, 2007 4:27 PM | Link to this

The Falcons suck and will always suck! Go Dallas Cowboys. Support America’s team

By Appfan

August 20, 2007 4:28 PM | Link to this

Mike Tyson, errr, Mike Vick is DONE.

By Mike Bryant

August 20, 2007 4:29 PM | Link to this

No….there IS no redemption from this. He’s finished as an NFL player. He wasn’t exactly a proven talent anyway. If he had led the Falcons to the promised land…like Peyton Manning, like Tom Brady or if he had just simply get them to the big game, like Steve McNair, or even that other Falcons loser, Chris Chandler, he might have had a shot. I hate the Falcons, so I personally don’ care what happens to Vick or if the Falcons are actually successful. What DOES bother me is that everyone is so outarged. All Vick did was drown a few pit bulls…SO WHAT?! Unlike Ray Lewis, he wasn’t accused of killing two human beings. Unlike Pacman Jones, he’s not implicated in a shooting that left a human being paralyzed. And don’t even think of using that stupid “well the dogs are innocent and were forced to do something against their will” argument. Jacinth Baker and Richard Lollar didn’t exactly invite Ray Lewis’ entourage to kill them. I KNOW that paralyzed bouncer wasn’t an active participant in the fight that led to his situation. What’s more important, the lives of three human beings or the lives of a few animals?

By Sam

August 20, 2007 4:29 PM | Link to this

Yes, killing a dog is not on par with killing humans. But there is hard evidence that shows that those who torture animals are sadistic and psychologically depraved. It is a precursor to other sadistic and despicable acts, this time carried out on humans. Look at any violent criminal or serial killer; animal abuse is always the most common trait among violent criminals.

By J.ATL

August 20, 2007 4:29 PM | Link to this

YES— It starts with 1) Mike accepting responsibility and stop blaming others….he is sort-of doing that now. 2) Mike personally issuing a statement (not his lawyers) to the public and especially children—NOT to follow his steps in bad judgement and horrible treatment of innocent animals for personal entertainment and financial gain. 3) A huge donation to the humane society that deals with the aftermath of these abused animals. 4) Demonstate that he has a heart and a mind of his own. 5) Dump that dead-beat entourage permanently!

Then maybe—just maybe he can start with back with arena-football and work his way back to NFL.

Long wait and Falcons are going to have to move on.

A SAD STORY WITH A SAD ENDING. MIKE ONLY HAS HIMSELF TO BLAME.

By Live Life

August 20, 2007 4:30 PM | Link to this

Yeah Vick was dumb to run the ball for MASTER!!!!!!!!!!! Stay in school young black males.

By dturner

August 20, 2007 4:30 PM | Link to this

Hey,

Who knows, maybe MV can join Pac-Man Jones and they can become tag team wrestlers- :-) Pac Man is already in the door !!

By Barbara

August 20, 2007 4:30 PM | Link to this

Vick may redeem himself personally, but based upon the lying to the Atlanta Falcons and the NFL he should be banned from football.

By Najeh Davenpoop

August 20, 2007 4:31 PM | Link to this

Vick handled this situation about as badly as possible. Either he should have pleaded guilty in the beginning, admitted to dogfighting, agreed to testify against his friends, and publicly apologized, or he should have had the balls to fight this all the way through trial and hope he came out not guilty. Pleading guilty at this stage in the game, after everyone else has pleaded, having nothing to offer prosecutors, and b****** the NFL and the fans about “clearing his good name” is pretty much the worst possible course of action.

He’s not going to get a favorable sentence at trial — spending a year in jail is not going to do any favors for him physically. Whether it’s fair or not, the public already views him as the scum of the earth, and pleading guilty now is not going to change anyone’s mind about him. In other words, an NFL team is going to be hard pressed to put him on the field at the highest profile position on the team.

As high profile as he is and as high profile as the QB position is in the NFL, I’d be really surprised if someone took a chance on him at age 29 when he gets out of jail. He should have had the balls to take this to trial. I don’t think what he did was that serious morally, but if you are going to break the law you better be smart enough not to get caught. I’m hoping against hope that he plays for the Falcons again, but the realist in me realizes that his time with the Falcons and probably the NFL is done. What a waste.

By Lowcountry Bulldawg

August 20, 2007 4:31 PM | Link to this

Liar. Michael Vick lied to us all. Michael Vick disrespected his family,himself and us the fans. Does he deserve to be forgived? Yes if he asks for forgiveness, but does that mean he should play football again? No, the NFL is a privledge,not a right. Michael Vick has blown a chance at creating a legacy for his family’s family. That is something he should have to live with the rest of his life. Do not give this guy the chance to make a joke of us, the NFL paying public. What a pathetic waste of talent.

By CommonSenseRules

August 20, 2007 4:32 PM | Link to this

Redemption?!? What happened to some steps that precede “redemption” such as remorse — not a scripted ‘apology’, doing some form form of recompense/penance, living with the consequences of one’s actions — painful and costly (and I don’t mean some jive $$ fine)though they may be, making amends, paying the piper??? Lifetime ban: consequence. Jailtime: consequence. Fine: consequence. If you haven’t learned the behavior-consequence relationship by age 5, perhaps you gotta learn it past age 25.

By jjjoooeee

August 20, 2007 4:32 PM | Link to this

He was a thug who got paid millions for his fight or flight reflex, He was not a good QB, He was a black Qb in Atlanta, which made him loved by default. He was and is dumber than a bag of hammers…get a real 6’5” QB who can pass….YOU KNOW…WHAT QUARTERBACKS SHOULD DO !!

By Plain Truth

August 20, 2007 4:33 PM | Link to this

I think this blog proves that there are a lot of people in Atlanta that care more about their pets than they do about a spoiled arrogant sadistic quarterback.

By Tyrone

August 20, 2007 4:33 PM | Link to this

Unfortunately, crimes committed by African Americans will always be a race issue to a lot of people. For some reason, when an African American is jailed, it’s because Mr. Whitey is after them. Folks it doesn’t matter if your white, black, brow, yellow or purple horseshoe shaped…breaking the law is breaking the law. What if Don Imus were Black, would you still condemn him for degrading Black women? STOP PLAYING THE DAMN RACE CARD ALREADY.

Unfortunately, crimes committed by African Americans will always be a race issue to a lot of people. For some reason, when an African American is jailed, it’s because Mr. Whitey is after them. Folks it doesn’t matter if your white, black, brow, yellow or purple horseshoe shaped…breaking the law is breaking the law. What if Don Imus were Black, would you still condemn him for degrading Black women? STOP PLAYING THE DAMN RACE CARD ALREADY.

By Gary

August 20, 2007 4:33 PM | Link to this

Everyone who redeems themselves can then get a chance to turn their life around - it is never automatic.. But who would hire Mike - 1 yr; 2 yrs from he will still be radioactive - too much for any team in the NFL - maybe the Canadian League…

By Tammy

August 20, 2007 4:33 PM | Link to this

Why do people keep mentioning RACE?? This has nothing to do with the fact that Vick is black…it has everything to do with the fact that he KILLED dogs…because they didn’t FIGHT to Vick’s standards. Black, White, Asian…who cares what race..I see some people here are saying that “White America” is after Vick…Hopefully ALL of America is after Vick…this is about those poor dogs…and as far as I’m concerned, he should be responsible for the ones being put down as well.

By lisa

August 20, 2007 4:33 PM | Link to this

I have a dog that I love so on the one hand I’m like throw him under the cell but as a Christian I know thats not right.

I do feel for Mike in that he has been BLESSED in so many ways and yet his life has taken such a drastic turn by his own doing.

Lord knows I’ve made mistakes; no, I haven’t harmed a dog nor any human being. My point being, he does derserve forgiveness/redemption if he asks for it but he won’t receive it from most (this blog is a testament to that).

Its just a terrible situation all the way around. Dang Mike!

By Steelers Fan

August 20, 2007 4:33 PM | Link to this

I hope he gets exactly what he deserves!!

By Tom

August 20, 2007 4:34 PM | Link to this

Forget football, that is not important. The important thing is that this young man needs medical help. If it doesn’t get it no amount of jail time will help him, be he black or white or green.

By Ann

August 20, 2007 4:35 PM | Link to this

I am not sure if he can redeem himself. To do that he will have to admit what he did and, more importantly, WHY he did it.

His statement today only apologizes for the ‘mistakes’ he made. These were not mere mistakes. He made a conscious decision to fight and kill these dogs in the most brutal fashion solely for his enjoyment. How does one go from enjoying brutalizing a dog one day to despising that same act the next day? A mere apology for a ‘mistake’ or a ‘bad choice’ is not enough. He must look deep inside himself to find out why he did this. If he is able to do so and can realize the depravity of his actions, see them for what they truly are, and actually changes his feelings about it, only then will the process of redemption begin.

It will be a long road. He will not be able to to this alone. He will need professional help. I hope he his able to take that step.

By Jr

August 20, 2007 4:35 PM | Link to this

It’s simple. Vick broke the law and he should pay the price. He will be yesterday’s news in a few months. And to those of you who still support Vick and who are critical of the Falcons for their tough treatment of this felon, do you know how ignorant you look? While you are obsessing over Michael Vick, the rest of the country will be laughing at you.

By RALPH

August 20, 2007 4:35 PM | Link to this

I like mike, he was the most exciting thing that happen to the falcons in the years that he played for them. He was the reason the stands was full, that’s a fact. How come PETA and the Humane Socity don’t go down to all the county animal shelters and protest them for killing all the dogs and cats, it’s because they would be jailed if they did. The humane Socity want the feds to put the dogs to death that the feds seized. Say it not so !! That say a lots of this is about. Get Mike Vick !!!

By Mz HR

August 20, 2007 4:36 PM | Link to this

Unbelievable, we are so transparent and sin free that we can judge AND end his career in one breathe. I feel like he should be punished, but why would his career have to end? Are we serious? All the people that drive DUI, use illegal drugs, commit mortgage fraud (i.e. exaggerate a little on your income, steal cable, etc.) should all come clean and resign immediately from their careers. Why are we so critical and judgemental on one another? I am not excusing it, I am just saying it was a stupid mistake and I am certain that he will be punished accordingly, but why END the career. People have been less critical for those that have taken human lives. GET A LIFE!!

By Keith from Chatt

August 20, 2007 4:36 PM | Link to this

If he doesn’t spend the next 5 years in jail, he’ll be back. Im sure the Raiders, Vikings or Dolphins would take him.

By dbs

August 20, 2007 4:38 PM | Link to this

I sincerely hope the population understands this whole affair has nothing to do with the race of individuals involved. If the quarterback’s name was Tom Brady, would we be more or less outraged? Would he not receive the same level of scrutiny because he’s a famous WHITE quarterback? That’s the issue here. The face of an NFL team was caught involved in the commission of SEVERAL felonies (that he denied and later pled guilty to).

I’m sure few people have heard of the group of hispanics arrested in Central Florida for cockfighting. Why? No high-profile athlete to turn it into a national story. Yet those individuals are facing the same penalties as Peace or Phillips. Atlanta just hasn’t heard of the story.

Wake up people. When you become a high-caliber athlete, you will always be under the microscope. Vick will be sentenced justly, and the entire nation will hear about it.

By Bruce

August 20, 2007 4:38 PM | Link to this

Anybody have some Season tickets they would like to sell me? I’ll take two.

By lee

August 20, 2007 4:39 PM | Link to this

All I can say is:

Thank God for the Braves!

By ss

August 20, 2007 4:39 PM | Link to this

Repent, right your wrongs and have no worries about what people say. He may not have a career with the NFL, but he can surely donate some of his knowledge, experience, and expertise to the youth that will possibly have football careers. Everything happens for reasons.

By Unclebuck

August 20, 2007 4:40 PM | Link to this

Why is it a black or white issue? He did something really stupid and now he has to pay the vig.

I will not forgive him for doing something of that nature. Abusing any animals is pure trash. He is no better than the two punks that cooked the live puppy at the community center Last year.

I miss Matt Schaub.

By ssh

August 20, 2007 4:40 PM | Link to this

No, it’s time for him to move on. He will never regain the support of doglovers in Atlanta.

If he is ever allowed to have dogs at all—hopefully, the judge will only allow him to own chihuahuas.

By caz

August 20, 2007 4:40 PM | Link to this

To me it is sad day for atlanta. But if you did’nt see it coming then you had your head in the sand. I’ve read on this blog about it being a race issue, that pure bull for the majority of people (black or white). Sure there are those among both races that see it that way,but they will on any issue involving the opposite race. This is about a MAN not a kid as so many people want to portrait Mr Vick, that chose the wrong path pur and simple. This about a MAN that stood there and lied through his teeth to you,me,and everyone else. This is about a MAN who lied to the one MAN that has steadfast had his back from the time he was a FALCON, Arthur Blank! Can he come back and play pro football again,sure he can there are plenty of examples of that happening. For me he needs to grow up,take responsibility for his actions, and be a MAN!!!!!

By NASDAQ

August 20, 2007 4:40 PM | Link to this

This case has served one purpose. It has opened everyone’s eyes to the racism that exists in america from all sides. Melting Pot my a*, this country has a long way to go.

By Sandra

August 20, 2007 4:40 PM | Link to this

There is a differnce between black & white, look at Martha Stewart she lied until the end and the world has seem to forget what she has done. She makes more money now more than every.

Mike keep your head up ask God forgiveness because he is the only one that can forgive you. The world sits back and judges as if they have done nothing wrong. Know that your black community is with you. Ha look at the lady that killed her husband (the preacher) she served 6 mths and she is out. We are talking about dogs not humans. It so sad. I just hope that you keep your head up and keep praying. Prayer changes things.

Sandra

By Patrick

August 20, 2007 4:41 PM | Link to this

To answer the direct question of redemption, I’d have to say that it is possible as anything is; however, it will be a huge uphill battle for MV7. I believe the best immediate course of action for him is to stop all of the stalling and deception that has brought this case to this point. As for the race issue, please consider the fact that lawman Poindexter in VA (who is not white by the way) has already stated that he plans to go after MV7 on felony charges. That seems to take away the race card that some posters like to flash on this blog. Comments?

By Gary B.

August 20, 2007 4:41 PM | Link to this

His career as an NFL player is over…HE is a PR nightmare for any team that he would play for if he got hired after he gets out of prison. He is done.

By techaholic

August 20, 2007 4:41 PM | Link to this

Anybody can redeem themselves IF THEY REALLY WANT TO.

He has to pay the price first for his wrongdoings and his lies.

Will he serve his time and change his life, up to him. I wouldn’t want him back in a Falcon’s uniform.

He needs to move on from Atlanta.

By uno

August 20, 2007 4:42 PM | Link to this

I hate to say it, but…

I TOLD YOU SO.

I TOLD YOU SO.

I TOLD YOU SO.

I TOLD YOU SO.

I TOLD YOU SO.

I TOLD YOU SO.

I TOLD YOU SO.

I TOLD YOU SO.

I TOLD YOU SO.

I TOLD YOU SO.

I TOLD YOU SO.

What, 4 years ago? Okay, I’m waiting for apologies from all you delusional Vick lovers. Hope your blinders are off now. Learn from your ignorant hero worship and move on.

You’re welcome, uno

By Tyrone

August 20, 2007 4:42 PM | Link to this

Unfortunately, crimes committed by African Americans will always be a race issue to a lot of people. For some reason, when an African American is jailed, it’s because Mr. Whitey is after them. Folks it doesn’t matter if you’re white, black, brown, yellow or purple horseshoe shaped…breaking the law is breaking the law. What if Don Imus were Black, would you still condemn him for degrading Black women? STOP PLAYING THE DAMN RACE CARD ALREADY.

By Do'h!

August 20, 2007 4:42 PM | Link to this

Where to begin:

Yes, Bush does send people to war and those at war get killed. This has nothing to do with Vick.

Yes, Blank was on safari in Africa. Did he shoot any wild animals? I am not sure. This has nothing to do with Vick.

Race: Where to begin….this is easy for me. I hate all of you. My family came to this country after 1900. Therefore, me and my family have absolutely nothing to do with whitey or blackey (I am from Western Europe and I have served in the US Military so don’t even start with your lame comments).

Vick killed innocent animals. He is not going to prison for life. Yes, I agree the woman who killed her husband and is already out of jail is appalling to me.

To the post about killing all animals…I take it you are a vegetarian who does not eat seafood, chicken, beef, etc.

Vick will do his time. Vick will not be the same person when he comes out (See Mike Tyson). Vick needs to realize what a waste his life is. He threw away over $130 million to watch and participate in dog fighting. If that is not a waste I have no clue what is.

Good day and please, please, please, learn to spell.

By Jim Andrews

August 20, 2007 4:43 PM | Link to this

Yo, bustaHustler…

Do you understand the concept of “criminal intent”?

Look it up on Google.

This concept is why Vick is in big trouble and cops who overreacted with deadly force and killed a man are not in big trouble.

It’s not race, it’s intent.

By Him

August 20, 2007 4:43 PM | Link to this

I love how you people play that race card. It is so original as well as predictible. The only race aspect of this issue is the one that you all bring up. Remember the pro-Vick rally outside the dome??? “Black Altanta supports Vick” Enough said. What if I made a sign that said “White Atlanta Opposes Vick”??? What would have been said then? Quit thinking the “white” man is out to get you and realize that racism these days comes from your side, not ours!

By Carlton

August 20, 2007 4:44 PM | Link to this

I wonder if Peyton Manning was somehow behind this…maybe he set up our bro…

By Thomas

August 20, 2007 4:45 PM | Link to this

The white man framed him!! They are always responsible for someones poor decisions. Can’t graduate high school or get a job? blame the white man!!

By Artie

August 20, 2007 4:45 PM | Link to this

Michael Vick gets what he deserves for killing innocent animals. Crimes like this can’t be taken seriously enough. This has nothing to do with scapegoating or race, although Al Sharpton apparently disagrees:

http://www.newsgroper.com/al-sharpton/2007/08/20/guilty-plea-full-vick-innocent-oj/

By innenwelt2002

August 20, 2007 4:45 PM | Link to this

I don’t understand the person who said that white people are “enjoying this somehow”. What could be further from the truth? I think alot of people feel betrayed by Mike Vick and naturally they are expressing those frustrations. The people who support him and the people who are against him are really not so different in the fact that we all wanted to see Vick on the football field. Because of his actions that is no longer a possibility and I think people on both sides of the color spectrum are ticked off about it. Unfortunately I think the black community just feels persecuted as a whole when something like this happens…It just automatically becomes a divisive issue. It shouldn’t be…We should all be mad!

By RED and BLACK

August 20, 2007 4:47 PM | Link to this

One day while in prision, Michael Vick will happen upon an injured baby sparrow in the exercise yard. He will take the bird back to his cell and nurse it back to health. Finding a deep satisfaction in caring for the bird he attends to other injured birds and nurses them back to health.

He will then proceed to have said sparrows fight until there deaths.

People get a clue. Its not about white or black it is about one stupid mistake an ignorant person made. People bringing up Katrina and the shootings in NYC by the police officers and comparing this to Micheal Vick? Are you serious? Its not about white or black. Unless of course you want it to be.

Micheal Vick was/is the most overated athlete in the NFL.

By d

August 20, 2007 4:48 PM | Link to this

I see a lot of you on here are perfect an have never lied. Vick can reedem himself through Christ which is the most important thing. I really don’t think he will play football again. I wanted to commet also on the statement that dogs are like people, I am so sorry you are so far off I love my dogs, my cats, my birds, but if it ever came a time when I had to choose between saving my dog or my son, what do you think I would do better yet what would you do?

By Blind Homer

August 20, 2007 4:48 PM | Link to this

Now that we have quite possibly seen the entirety of MV’s NFL career, let’s be honest. He was never a GREAT pro QB and probably never would have been. He led his team to a 7-9 record last year with the 32nd dead last passing offense, and that wasn’t all bad routes and dropped balls, but overthrown open receivers, an inability to find the 2nd or 3rd option and a total lack of the touch pass. And we were 25th in scoring partly because he carelessly carried the ball resulting in several fumbles in scoring position and stupidly got sacked a few times taking us out of field goal range. Good riddance, now the Falcons have a chance to become truly great!

By Ike

August 20, 2007 4:48 PM | Link to this

ATLBoy— “it may have been better to drive drunk and kill a person, or simply kill a person, or rape an individual or better yet leave a entire city of people stranded for 3 to 4 days without food and water,”

all those things would’ve landed vick in jail for longer, so no, it WOULDN’T have been better to do those things.

But your outrageous hyperbole is amusing.

there are white people in jail for dog fighting, and Mike Vick will get FAR LESS jail time than a normal citizen— he’ll only get a year, most people who electrocute and drown dogs would get more, EVEN WHITE PEOPLE.

yes i understand he was the reason for Falcons selling out the Dome, and that will probably end. how is him being an entertaining player justification for letting him off easy?

By Monte Stephens

August 20, 2007 4:48 PM | Link to this

Yes, Vick can redeem himself. First and foremost he got himself into this trouble and this is the honorable way of getting out by repaying his debt to society. For everybody that is saying that he cannot redeem himself must first look in the mirror and think about their lives and personal issues they have. Dog fighting is wrong and has been around for along time. This issue of dogfighting and c** fighting amuses me because there are so many people out in rural Georgia who do participate in these so called sporting events on a weekly basis but nothing is done about it. I would like to ask AJC readers to look around observe your surroundings and you will find tons of people and maybe some of friends participating in these events. I can name many places in Ga towns that have rooster farms in there backyard. They sure aint raisin roosters to eat but to fight till the death. If you say animal cruelty is wrong then please by all means get everbody that does it not just a high profile athlete but Joe Blow who is just as good at raising fighting animals as he. Redemption is for those who sincerly want it and yes if Mike Vick wants it than repent and sin no more. Mike Vick may never play in the NFL again but he never lost his intergity on the field but he did lose it as a player. I am Mike Vick Fan and Animal Lover

By asdfasd

August 20, 2007 4:49 PM | Link to this

Sylvia, luckily, I’m not a Christian. I just hope he suffers terribly.

By NFLfan

August 20, 2007 4:49 PM | Link to this

I think Vick needs psychological help and I hope he can redeemed. For example, a person who suffers from Antisocial Personality Disorder exhibits this behavior: 1. failure to conform to social norms with respect to lawful behaviors as indicated by repeatedly performing acts that are grounds for arrest 2. deceitfulness, as indicated by repeated lying, use of aliases, or conning others for personal profit or pleasure 3. impulsivity or failure to plan ahead 4. irritability and aggressiveness 5. reckless disregard for safety of self or others 6. consistent irresponsibility, as indicated by repeated failure to honor obligations 7. lack of remorse, as indicated by being indifferent to or rationalizing having hurt, mistreated, or stolen from another.

By Danielle

August 20, 2007 4:49 PM | Link to this

There have been far worse crimes done by athletes and they still played their sport. Trust and believe Mike Vick will play again, maybe not for the Falcons but for some other team. Once he has done his time, he will be sought after. Everyone is in an uproar over some dogs, (and yes I am a dog lover) but does anyone say anything when players kill people (strangers, spouses, friends, employees)? Nope. They go to court, may or may not plead guilty, do there time and what happens…hummm….. Do I see them again on the field or court or even on the baseball diamond? Everyone needs to get off his back and go clean out your own dang closet. Everyone is always so quick to judge. Man, I would hate to see what’s in your backyard?

By Keila

August 20, 2007 4:49 PM | Link to this

It is by the grace of God that we are all forgiven for our sins. With that said, we all fall short, is one sin bigger than the next? Michael Vick made a terrile mistake, he has now owned up to it, and he should be given the chance to make amends. I truly believe that Michael will be able to play football in the future. Time heals all wounds.

By Bill

August 20, 2007 4:49 PM | Link to this

After he has paid his debt to society, he should get another opportunity to play if he is able. Our society has done its best to make sure those that break the law never get a second chance. He is lucky to have football. The Arena league might work for him.

It reminds me a little of Mike Tyson - remember how well that went?

By the way, it is “role model” folks, not “roll model.”

By LTX

August 20, 2007 4:50 PM | Link to this

Well at least OJ got away!!!

By Rev. G.

August 20, 2007 4:50 PM | Link to this

Unbelievable are some of these comments. Vick’s wrong and deserves to be prosecuted as the law allows. His callousness however is supersceded by the viciousness of the thoughts of some of the respondents to this inquiry. Evil people don’t just commit heinous acts against canines, they also send in comments to web polls. Lord help us all.

By judge

August 20, 2007 4:50 PM | Link to this

Don’t blame the WHITE MAN!Blame yourself.

By David Lee

August 20, 2007 4:51 PM | Link to this

Time for Mike Vick (aka Ookie, Ron Mexico, MV7) to take responsibility for what he had done. And some half-arsed apology through his lawyer does not cut it. Mike is just not “man enough” to take responsibilty. Put another way, his mama didn’t teach him any better.

By Matt

August 20, 2007 4:51 PM | Link to this

Where are all the NAACP supporters and everyone screaming this was a racial issue? I expect public statements from these organizations and what their stance is now!

By Nelda

August 20, 2007 4:51 PM | Link to this

Vick should do his time in prison along with fines and then part of his judgement should be that he volunteers 1000 hours or more working with the humane society. Perhaps after he had cared for the sick and dying it might touch some part of his spiritual makeuup. He has much to learrn. Money along doesn’t buy him another opportunity let him serve.

By J.C.

August 20, 2007 4:51 PM | Link to this

Michael Vick killing dogs was just another moronic thing to put on his resume. Lets face the facts here. Michael Vick was probably one of the most stupid quarterbacks EVER. They had to make the playbook smaller just for him. He only had 2 reads per play…He put something illegal into something illegal to carry on to an airplane. I actually think its a great thing for the Falcons team. Now we can probably get rid of his contract without losing as much money as if we just straight out cut him. It is sad though, if we do end up with a white quarterback, I’m sure a lot of African Americans just won’t support the team. Even though guys like Warrick Dunn are class A citizens, and one of my favorite players. I hope Vick never gets to play in the NFL again, and if he does, for God’s sake, make him a slot reciever.

By Scott

August 20, 2007 4:51 PM | Link to this

Some of you people never cease to amaze me. This ISN’T about race. This is about a person who loved to toture and kill dogs.

He will never be forgiven in my eyes, and there is a special place in hell that burns a little bit hotter reserved for people like him.

By Johnny Reb

August 20, 2007 4:52 PM | Link to this

Black man, black man, boring. He broke the law and should be punshied. It is not about going duck hunting or deer hunting. He broke the law on the feloney scale. The RICCO act, gamblimg, bank rolling the whole illegal operation and taking part in the killing of the dogs. Come on people wake up. As Vick now knows there is a time to cut your losses. And at the moment M.V. isa loss. Can he come back in time, well that is entirely up to M.V., with his present attitude and game plan NO WAY. Can he change, well that can only be answered by God and M.V. You seem to know hoe to use the internet, look up the dog fighting crap and cruelity that is done. Yes, two people fight and tempers flare. That is a decision to individuals of comparative intellegence. That is a little more understandable. Sad but true, that is life. If you see in in white and black, then take off the blinders. There are good prople in both races and bad ones in both.

By teacher

August 20, 2007 4:52 PM | Link to this

i’m just sorry m.v. cannot understand how much he hurt himself, the falcons, the city of atlanta, and the states of georgia and virginia. the christian side of me says he can most certainly be forgiven through God’s grace. the human side of me says “no way” because of how brutal he is to kill with his bare hands. this is not about black and white…it’s about knowing what is wrong and knowing who is wrong. michael needs to do some serious soul searching. i’m still waiting on mv to “prove his innoncence”. i’m mad and will never support the falcons if he is not banned for life. forgiven? yes forgotten? NEVER

By Christy

August 20, 2007 4:52 PM | Link to this

The problem with saying that Vick should be treated like Average Joe is that he ISN’T an Average Joe. He’s the highest paid player in the NFL - more than Manning, Brady and McNabb. His endorsements probably exceed theirs as well over the last few years.

So tell me, why does a man (a grown man mind you, not a boy or inexperienced youth) need to go out and risk it all on an illegal activity? Leave aside the disgusting nature of dog fights themselves, for those of you that apparently attend and enjoy those functions, and you still have the aspect of wagering on the fights, which is SO far outside of allowed behavior for the NFL that there can be NO excuse for his having done so.

And, I gotta ask, if it was a race thing, how in hell did Ray Lewis get back in the game so quickly after obstructing a murder charge? Don’t you think the system would have hung him out to dry if it was about race?

WHAT has Mike done to deserve so much of your love and so little of your intelligent consideration and weighing of the facts at hand? Why doesn’t Warrick Dunn get this much love, when he is out there in the community actually making a difference in people’s lives without all of the “come see what I do” atmosphere that surrounds Mike Vick?

Grow up people. Mike’s about to - courtesy of the US Government.

By puppyluver

August 20, 2007 4:52 PM | Link to this

NO!

By Steve

August 20, 2007 4:52 PM | Link to this

Some of you are saying that just because Vick didn’t kill a human, what he did was acceptable. I say that we should care very deeply that he violently and cruely killed animals because they did not perform well enough for him. We can and should care whenever someone kills animals or humans. Neither is or ever should be acceptable. Why can’t we care about both animals and humans? The answer is that we should. I will never watch him play again and I hope that the NFL is not greedy enough to let him play again. What a terrible shame that a young man with so much talent made such vicious decisions and ruined his life.

By Rin Tin Tin

August 20, 2007 4:52 PM | Link to this

So Mike Vick has lied from the beginning? It certainly looks that way. Ookie did a bad thing. Don’t lie to the government.

Yes, it was “just dogs” but it is illegal. Like it or not, dogs in our society are considered by many to be family and ‘children.’

Bad Vick. Bad Vick.

By Machineman

August 20, 2007 4:53 PM | Link to this

It is amazing that so many of you have all of this negative crap to come out about Mike, but would probably cry like a baby if YOU were put in this situation. I am not condoning the wanton killing of animals, but the next time that you sit down to a meal of animal flesh (steak, chicken, fish, pork loin, etc.)think about this; would you want the people responsible for the deaths of these animals prosecuted? Or would YOU accept punishment for EATING them? I guess having them fight is much worse than EATING them, huh? I hope that Mike DOES play again in the NFL, takes his team to the Superbowl and wins it all, just not in THIS city of fair-weather fans. Oh, and one more thing, for all of you PETA people out there, don’t get caught at Longhorn, Chick-fil-A or even Arby’s. If I catch you, I’m callin’ the law. Lousy buncha hypocrites….

By Starr

August 20, 2007 4:53 PM | Link to this

You fair weather people are ridiculous!!! You have destroyed a man and his lively hood for gambling issues. I don’t believe Vick participated in the killing of any dogs. He just supported an illegal act. The same thing that people contribute to when you buy a blood diamond from Africa or the children who slave to make your clothes for you in sweat shops. You could care less about that.HYPOCRITES

By jen

August 20, 2007 4:53 PM | Link to this

he’s a lowlife who has no integrity, decency, or class. He should be made to pay restitution to the ASPCA and to the federal courts, and to serve “community service” after his release from “the doghouse” at an animal shelter cleaning cages. Inmates in many prisons now train assistance animals…lets put a puppy in his prison cell and force compassion on him. make him care for and love the little critter and bring some good into the world. but a thug like him will fit in fine in prison..Im a longtime football fan but if he ever plays in the NFL again I will never watch another game. I do agree we all do bad things but people who kill animals are much much more likely to KILL PEOPLE. If he can shoot a dog in the head he can just as easily shoot a person with no remorse. He is a dangerous criminal who has no place in a civilized society. Just because he wore a uniform for a team doesnt make him above the law, or above contempt.

By Brandi

August 20, 2007 4:53 PM | Link to this

Yes, absolutely. I don’t understand this let the man serve his sentence and come back and do his job. People aren’t persecuted this much for hurting people. Seems to me that a dogs life is of more value than a humans. Sorry to all the dog lovers out there that say Vick should be put down, or locked away for life but this is a human who made a mistake which we all have made. Let the man keep his JOB.

By JEREMY

August 20, 2007 4:53 PM | Link to this

All you so called Christians who say Vick can’t redeem himself are so out to lunch. This is real funny how us so called Christians pick and chose which acts people commit are considered redeemable. Who died and said we became God?? Who are we to past judgement on the next person? the Bible clearly says “he/she without sin cast the first sin” and since none of us are perfect then its not up to us to determine if Vick is redeemable. As long as Vick confesses his sin to the God he believes in then thats all that matters. We Christian Americans are so out to lunch on what it means to be aa true Christian. Forgive and forget. Some of us have committed far worse sins than Vick but we walk around like our stuff dont stank. Get a clue. God said “vegeance is mine” not ours!!!!! Vick is clearly paying for his actions as we speak. Im saddened that another young man has wasted the good part of his life on immoral activities and now his career might end just as fast as it started. Am I surprised by his actions by association…no I’m not. Remember law enforcement went to his place of residence on a drug warrant for his friend or cousin. Vick why are you association yourself with family and friends of this nature??!! You are a professional athelete. Some friendships and associations need to end or not be as frequent now that you are the face of the Atlanta Falcons. I have friends and family the same way Vick but for me to make any progress in the career I wanna go I have to distance myself from all the bull and illegal stuff. Its this “I gotta keep it real attitude” “I gotta keep it hood ” belief in the african american community that drives these associations. But its sad these same associations have Vick on the front page of the paper and about to end the career of a lifetime. For fighting dogs and gambling. Was it worht it Vick??!! But Vick is a grown man and he must be held accountable for his actions point blank. I clearly dont like how he is ostracized in the media because of his actions mainly because he is an african american athlete. I myself am an african american male with advanced education and I have faced racism from so many places and people its ridiculous. Had this been anyone else we wouldnt be having these discussions. I mean no one is talking about the nba refree who gambled and altered the outcomes of championship and playoff games. he has cost people their hard earned money and probably some people’s livelihood. Maybe because I live in Atlanta is the reason for so much coverage but point blank there is always one set of rules for african americans in america and another for white america. Im not making this a race issue Im making it a issue of truth and fairness but the justice system is built upon unfairness.

By Sylvia R. Williams

August 20, 2007 4:54 PM | Link to this

If Michael Vick had been white, would the federal government have went after him so hard? Punish him, but why take away his career. Damn he made a mistake. Its so sad that not one people that are famous are afraid to speak up and help and say Michael Vick made a mistake give him another chance. Its sad, a black man in America catches hell.

By American European

August 20, 2007 4:54 PM | Link to this

Terence Moore says that most of the African Americans will stay home because white people are against this dumbass. I hope so, maybe it will be fun and safe to go back to the games again.

By Bubba

August 20, 2007 4:55 PM | Link to this

Redeem himself to whom ? Some Falcon Ticket holders ? Animal lovers ? Arthur Blank ? I think he is a disgrace to professional athletes at all levels of all pro-sports.

By TPain

August 20, 2007 4:56 PM | Link to this

Redemption…meaning? Will he recover? Yes, football is a way of life but not life itself. Will he be able to pay back or make amends? Not in this lifetime. Regardless of the term you use or you view of the situation, it is what it is. He broke the law and it came back to bite him in the butt. Does everyone that commnits a crime go to jail? No When people have money before they go to jail always come out broke? No

What will any of us gain one way or the other? Not a darn thing. Arthur Blank will not go broke if Vick doesn’t play. Vick will not go broke if he doesn’t play football ever gain…unless he doesn’thave the brains God gave a duck.

People lose jobs everyday! If he is you or your child’s hero…get another one that isn’t in the spotlight. There are people that make a difference on a daily basis and you never hear about them.

Being black, growing up in the “hood”, or making mistakes don’t make you a thug. It is your choices, actions, and the way you deal with being black, growing up in the “hood”, and making mistakes that makes you a thug.

Somebody is going to rake in a lot of money from all of this but it won’t be any of us.

By John, Chattanooga

August 20, 2007 4:56 PM | Link to this

Everyone hopes Mr. Vick can rehabilitate his life…anyone deserves that opportunity. The key will be to denounce any attempt by his supporters to make this a racial issue. I think most Americans are sick of this. He’s still a young man with a chance to do worthwhile endeavors with his life. Let us hope he follows that path. This was such a bad set of choices, coupled with people around him who never held him accountable (Owner Blank Among Them!).

By p diddy

August 20, 2007 4:56 PM | Link to this

HACK NO! Michael Vick can redeem himself. He id say he is guilty in all of those charges. If I were Roger Goodell I’ll banish him. SCREW MIKE VICK

By gamule1

August 20, 2007 4:57 PM | Link to this

I am a white person and I hope Vick gets a second chance. There is a process and Vick may already have taken the first step. Admit guilt, and in this case spend no less than a year in Federal Prison. Next, settle with the Virginia authorities by jail time and fine, or both. Then contribute a substantial amount of money to many different community animal control clinics for pet rehab. Once those things are done he should again be allowed to play professional ball. If the prosecutors and judges let Vick off with a slap, overnight jail, probation, and no felony conviction, it will dissappoint me greatly.

By Actually

August 20, 2007 4:57 PM | Link to this

Actually this was all a set up by Arthur Blank and Bobby Petrino to draft Brian Brohm as the QB of the future next year.

By Thomas

August 20, 2007 4:57 PM | Link to this

How many of you so called “African-Americans” were born in Africa?

By trilltalk

August 20, 2007 4:58 PM | Link to this

IM SORRY, BUT AS A BLACK AMERICAN I JUST CAN NOT PASS JUDGEMENT ON A PERSON’S LIFE FOR ONE OR TWO MISTAKES THAT HE HAS MAD.FROM READIND ALL THE INFO ON VICK I HAVE FOUND THAT HE HAS DONE ALOT OF GOOD THINGS DURING HIS CAREER.LET VICK TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR HIS MISTAKE THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE TOTALLY BLOWING UP AND MOVE ON WITH HIS LIFE.

By Debbie

August 20, 2007 4:58 PM | Link to this

I have read a lot of the emails printed against Mike. I wonder if any of you go to the circus when it comes to town, visit the zoo, avid hunters or are frequent visitors to any spectatur shows involving animals. I’m not an animal lover, however, I hate to see anything mistreated. What do you think happens with the animals that are caged, in the circus and the like. None of God’s creatures were meant to be locked up in a cage or hunted for the sport of it. So when all of you continue to shout out the profanities to Mike, examine yourselves. Mike can redeem himself if you allow him. As one contributor mentioned, it is a shame there is not this much attention to the 3 kids recently killed in the North.

Bless you my children who has never done anything wrong and has never asked for forgiveness.

By Gary

August 20, 2007 4:58 PM | Link to this

A thug is a thug is a thug….why are people so surprised at this behavior?? It will take something for more severe than this to make him change. Unfortunate but true, don’t hold your breath that he will anytime soon.

By J.T.

August 20, 2007 4:58 PM | Link to this

It’s up to him to redeem his image.He’s going to need to appear on Bill O’Reilly,Hannity & Colmes,Larry King…etc.The black community in Atlanta,has their own set of values,norms,racial agenda when it comes to the criminal justice system.They beleive he’s another innocent brother being wronfully convicted (i.e. O.J. Barry Bonds..etc).Attention African American Community of Atlanta : Mike Vick lied to you,he lied to your children,he lied to all that fought for civil rights (John Lewis,Jesse Jackson,Al Sharpton…etc) he let all of you down,all of you.Still even when Marion Barry in D.C. was smoking crack in a motel with a trick,the black community elected him once again as mayor of D.C.Black people are completely hypocritical when it comes to accountability for one’s actions,especially one of their own.The white community will forgive him,only if he fesses up,repents publicly for his actions.WE are all human.

By chris

August 20, 2007 4:58 PM | Link to this

To the fan who wrote “Only in America is a man’s llife worth nothing. A woman murders her husand and gets 64 days in prison”… That’s right she got 64 days for killing a man who beat her. She should have been given a million dollars and sent home to raise her kids. You are trying to compare apples to oranges and that’s just stupid.

By Thomas Davis

August 20, 2007 4:59 PM | Link to this

I really think Mike Vick would kill another human being (and not only dogs) if he thought he could get away with it.

By Ms

August 20, 2007 4:59 PM | Link to this

So many judgemental comments from judgemental people. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

By p diddy

August 20, 2007 4:59 PM | Link to this

Instead of feeding the hungry he blows thousands of dollars to torture animals come on VICK there are people out there who will die for a loaf bread and your out there killing helpless dogs. The black community should be ashamed for themselves for supporting VICK

By Sam

August 20, 2007 4:59 PM | Link to this

As the comedian says, “You can’t fix stupid.”

How much stupidity can be in one person? He is the HIGHEST paid NFL player and he does this? Un-stinking-believable!

By GASportsFan

August 20, 2007 4:59 PM | Link to this

Let’s get real here. Number 1 Vick should be punished because even though I am not an animal lover, they shouldn’t be hurt. Number 2 Animals don’t have souls so they won’t be in heaven or hell as some of you are obviously misled to believe.

By Give me a break . . .

August 20, 2007 5:00 PM | Link to this

He has admitted what he did. Should he get another chance? Yeah, like the one he gave each dog on his property. He had choices. The dogs didn’t. He is an adult, responsible and made enough money. He only did this because he is vile to the core. Don’t hold your breath that he will change.

By truthteller

August 20, 2007 5:00 PM | Link to this

Does anyone here seriously believe Vick will ever play pro football again? It’s not happening, so no point in discussing wheter he can “redeem” himself. There is no franchise that would add this baggage to their team.

The fact that so many black people continue to defend this guy is really sad, and should convince everyone that the chasm between black and white in this country continues to widen in spite of all the misguided social engineering by our federal government.

For those of you who may have wondered how OJ’s black jury could have turned him loose even though all the evidence said he murdered two people, you only have to read the posts from black people on this page to understand. Very, very sad.

By Supporter

August 20, 2007 5:00 PM | Link to this

Yep he can and will. Besides here is something to think about the next time yall eat

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By rlynn

August 20, 2007 5:00 PM | Link to this

Yes Mike Vick may redeem himself but it is not likely owing to his exposed sadistic nature.

Alicia, you may be a groupie but you’re not a football fan. Vick was a mediocre NFL QB and it is likely that he would have been done after this coming season in Atlanta.

By RED and BLACK

August 20, 2007 5:00 PM | Link to this

SD-if you were a REAL MAN you would post your name when you make statements like that.Thats right continue to hid behind your computer.

By Rebekah

August 20, 2007 5:01 PM | Link to this

Terrence Moore said it all….come clean Mike….confess your sins and ask for forgiveness from God, your family, your fans, and your country.

By KA

August 20, 2007 5:01 PM | Link to this

We can forgive him, but he lied and broke the trust with his team and his fans, and it’s unlikely that anyone will ever trust him again. Pitiful that he’s thrown his career away like this.

By Brian

August 20, 2007 5:01 PM | Link to this

This might be the only case where a pro athlete gets what he deserves. I think the NFL, Falcons, Mr. Blank and the city is going to come down hard on Ron Mexico. I know he’s hard to tackle, but Ookie can’t wiggle out of this one.

By NFL Fan

August 20, 2007 5:01 PM | Link to this

You are kidding, right?

By Rob

August 20, 2007 5:02 PM | Link to this

he’s a liar,he will never make it in jail,if he isn’t killed in prison it will screw his head up and football future ie over

By Ike

August 20, 2007 5:02 PM | Link to this

“Michael Vick became a threat to White America time he stepped onto the field. He will Redeem himself!”

i’m sure that’s why he got a $130 million football contract and a $100 million endorsement deal from Nike. i woudln’t really classify that as “holding down the black man”

By Ronny

August 20, 2007 5:03 PM | Link to this

With success, notoriety and millions in his pocket, Michael Vick chose to forcibly breed, train, fight and sadistically end the lives of helpless animals to satisfy his barbaric craving for blood and even more money. His boyhood in the projects notwithstanding, some folks are just sorry.

In a recent radio interview, Vick proclaimed that he’d placed his fate with the man upstairs. Good for you, Mikey. However, it looks like the Lord already has your number. Proverbs 12:10 says, “A good man takes care of his animals, but wicked men are cruel to theirs.” To that I say “Yea and Verily and AMEN!”

By Carla

August 20, 2007 5:03 PM | Link to this

Redemption? He can pray for it, but he doesn’t deserve another chance to act as a role-model to our youth. He is a very cruel & selfish person. And what kind of idiot compares duck hunting (which I don’t agree w/either) to dog fighting? Dog fighting is sick, demented behavior. How would you like to be pumped up with drugs & then put in a pin to have every part of your body bitten & mauled? People that condone this activity are pathetic.

By Jessamine

August 20, 2007 5:03 PM | Link to this

My personal philosophy is do unto others what they did to the animals. If you tie a dog to a tree for days with no food, that is your punishment also. Granted we can’t drown or smash Mike’s head into the ground (much as I’d like to, but never could since I actually value life) but there has to be some punishment so he knows the magnitude of his crime.

I certainly will never forgive what he’s done and I REALLY hope the NFL and Arthur Blank don’t allow him back on the Falcons. He obviously needs psychiatric help, not football. You have to have something already broken inside to be so heartless and cruel that you can treat life like it is garbage. You can’t “recover” or “fix” that overnight.

I hope he enrolls in therapy. As many people have mentioned, serial killers begin by killing animals. That disregard for life escalates and killing humans becomes just as meaningless to them.

The only way he could redeem himself slightly is if he gave all of his future salary, minus enough to live “reasonably” on (and I mean reasonable like the rest of us, not owning 10 cars and 10 houses, etc) to the Humane Society - Pet Helpers - etc.

But, I’m sure he’ll get off with a slap on the wrist. I certainly won’t be at any of his games.

By Enoughalready

August 20, 2007 5:04 PM | Link to this

first you claimed he was innocent and the charges were false. now that vick has admitted his guilt you blame it on whiteys, racism, society, the dogs, his crew, the phase of the moon… everyone accept vick - the person who willingly committed these crimes.

do people ever accept responsibility for their actions in your world or are they perpetual victims?

yes, racism is rampant in our society, but this crime did not happen because of racism. it happened because a disturbed, violent man,who happens to be black, committed heinous acts.

your attitudes embody the “victim” mentality that Juan Williams so forcefully postulates in his book “Enough”.

nothing will change in this world until we all look in the mirror, accept responsibility for our actions and quit blaming everyone else for what happens in our lives.

By Deborah

August 20, 2007 5:04 PM | Link to this

Mike needs to be punished for the crime committed like anyone else would be. The bigger issue here is the number of people in this country, black, white, whatever, who seem to think that abusing animals is no big deal. They’re just animals, not humans. Animals feel pain just like humans do. The execution of the underperforming animals disgusts me more than the dog fighting does. It demonstrates a lack of humanity. Anyone who would treat an animal like that will most likely abuse a human at some point in their life. Mike needs to do some serious soul searching and try to understand why people would be outraged at his behavior and why he thought that behavior is acceptable. He is a college graduate. More is expected of people with an education and the advantages he had in life. He should have been smart enough to recognize what he was getting involved in was wrong and stopped it. If he used his brain, he wouldn’t be in this mess.

By Federal charges

August 20, 2007 5:04 PM | Link to this

He will never play football again, as an employee of the NFL and Atlanta Falcons they have the right to terminate his contract. If you were under a federal indictment your employer would do the same thing.

I am never amazed anymore of how quickly it all becomes a race issue especially here in Atlanta from the African American side especially. But, I am curious. Do some of you support him only b/c he is black? Or, are you convinced if is being persecuted b/c of his skin color? Do you truly believe he is innocent and had nothing to do with the crimes he is being indicted for? Some of the arguments by some of you have been, “they are dogs, not humans.” You must know it does not matter in the eyes of the law, killing animals or humans, both all illegal!

By LTX

August 20, 2007 5:04 PM | Link to this

AJC IS BEING RACIALLY BIAS ON POSTING COMMENTS. THIS SHOULD BE BASED ON PUBLIC OPINION.

By Ga Girl

August 20, 2007 5:04 PM | Link to this

People, people, people…state charges, federal charges, Dog Fighting is ILLEGAL, Gambling is ILLEGAL!!! Race has no place in this case, EVERYONE goes to jail, white, black, pink, purple.

The question about redemption boils down to INTEGRITY. Vick has done nothing but tell one lie after another, which shows a complete lack of INTEGRITY.

Redemption will be a very long road.

By Swatlanta

August 20, 2007 5:05 PM | Link to this

People, they are just dogs. Everybody wasn’t raised with the passion for dogs that some of you have. I could care less about the dogs that died. The Humane society kills 15+ million animals a year. White people hunt deer, birds, or anything else that falls into the scope of their high powered rifles all in the name of sport. Mike Vick’s punishment should be no more severe than a routine traffic violation IMO. To hell with PETA and all of the drama they bring.

By Akagi

August 20, 2007 5:06 PM | Link to this

Perhaps babyphat you should shut up before you prove to everyone how stupid you are.

1) The Constitution is the highest law of the land—which means when an amendment to it is ratified it becomes the highest law of the land.

2) The Voting Rights Act was passed in 1965.

By Bill

August 20, 2007 5:06 PM | Link to this

Lets see…we sent Ricky Williams to the CFL. Next will be Michael Vick. What other garbage can we dump over the border!!

By Rich

August 20, 2007 5:08 PM | Link to this

I could only bring myself to read approximately the first fifteen posts here before being disgusted. I find it absolutely asinine that some people continue to use the race card. You can continue to claim that I do not like him because of the color of his skin. When you do so, you show your own ignorance and bias. Some of you make me embarrassed to be an Atlantan.

Perhaps there are some people who never liked Vick because of his race, but I have supported him continually throughout the issues, both on and off the field. However, I can no longer justify doing so, and it has nothing to do with him being black. Rather it has everything to do with a water bottle, stolen jewelry, a sexual indiscretion, a photo, two fingers, and a bunch of dogs that were forced to fight or be killed.

Despite the fact Vick admitted his guilt today, after lying to all of us, including Gooddell and Blank, some of you still support him and claim this is because he is black. If you had any sense and logic, you would realize it is because he was guilty of a felony, or perhaps even the last straw in many off-field incidents that have embarrassed not only Vick, but the franchise and this city.

For those who continue to predict empty seats at the Dome, a losing franchise, etc., I do not care. This was about much more than football and the success of the Falcons. This was about a human being who had amazing talents far beyond those of most people, and he was rewarded for his potential, and then tossed it all away with a string of bad decisions, with the most recent one being something even Blank could not sweep under the rug.

If the Falcons suffer for two, five, or ten years, it is nothing true Falcon fans have not endured before, and we shall no doubt find enjoyable moments amid the rebuilding.

If Vick learns anything from his punishments applied as a result of his bad decisions, he will be a better man for it. However, today, he is not much of a man at all. First and foremost, he is a liar, and as a result, whether he is white, black, or polka-dotted, he is a lesser man than I.

By judge

August 20, 2007 5:08 PM | Link to this

From the looks of these posts,seperate but equal don’t sound to bad.

By lucky

August 20, 2007 5:08 PM | Link to this

I love Mike Vicks as a great QB. But if he is gulity of dog fighting and the killing of dogs then I forgive him if he want to be forgiven…No one is perfect and everyone have a past..do what ever it is to correct this and go on with your life what done is done….know one can judge NO ONE LOOK AT YOUR SELF FIRST……

By CDS

August 20, 2007 5:08 PM | Link to this

Go ahead Vick supporters and cry for Vick/Ookie. He’s going to the slammer, and there’s nothing you can do about it. I kept saying that race has nothing to do with it, but I find it comical that so many of you still think this is some kind of conspiracy against a rich black man. He’s a petty thug and a below-average QB.

Yes I’m black and I’m saying this. You want to call me and other blacks who have the same opinion about Vick an Uncle Tom? Go ahead. I’m going to finally root for the Falcons now that I don’t have to worry about that selfish, petty thug behind center. Too bad about Shockley though. There was a stand-up guy who could’ve brought the same skills Vick had (with a better arm), and none of the thuggery associated with him. Hopefully he can come back next season.

Good luck to the Falcons. I feel so much better knowing that jerk is getting exactly what he deserves. Go Joey Harrington, and Go Falcons!

P.S. Matt Schaub says “HAHAHAHAHA!”

By Not Ever

August 20, 2007 5:09 PM | Link to this

As an African American I don’t understand why the black community rallies around the dog killing machine Michael Vick. I think Michael is one sick individual, I was very disappointed that he accepted the plea deal because I wanted him to serve the maximum penalty allowed. Wake up black people there is no excuse for breaking the law, and for you out there that actually think the feds are just going after him because he is black or all of this is just a setup. Let me assure you that the feds have way bigger fish to fry than a thug like Michael Vick, but still the feds are charged with bring justice to those who break the law and in this case Michael did so. Michael Vick and his attorney looked like fools pleading not guilty and making all of those statements about how they couldn’t wait to prove his innocence, too bad that day will never come. I hope the judge does the right thing in this case and send Michael away for a very long time, and I also hope that the NFL suspends Michael indefinitely.

By Dee

August 20, 2007 5:10 PM | Link to this

WHO CARES so much about M. Vick? **Surely the Atlanta Falcons owners will find someone just as talented, or even more talented to be their next QB… and Vick’s name will be totally forgotten in a very short amount of time. Let’s remember, that Premeditated, planned, repeated atrosities are just that: premeditated, planned,repeated schemes to commit crimes for prlofit in this case… CRIMES … no matter how one looks at it, the man commited CRIMES, repeatedly, knowingly and willingly broke the law for profit. He deliiberately chose to break laws and participation in illegal activities, and he got caught. Now “he’s busted”, and he should accept the facts of life: Do the CRIME and you will do the TIME..” that’s how it works in real life…. so, didn’t anyone ever tell Vick that very basic fact of life?
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By Uncle Charlie

August 20, 2007 5:10 PM | Link to this

“How is he going to apologize to the helpless animals he brutalized and killed?”

Oh, please! People still participate in dog fighting to this day in various parts of the country. You don’t know about it because it’s done in the woods behind the trailer parks. Helpless animals that were brutalized, eh? How about the many Indians and Blacks that were brutalized decades ago? What do you say for them Kitty Kat?

By Waldo

August 20, 2007 5:11 PM | Link to this

The dogs were electrocuted, drowned, hung and shot. Enough said. You want to support a “human being” that treats animals like that, go ahead, it says as much about you as it does Micheal Vick.

By Dr. I.Q.

August 20, 2007 5:11 PM | Link to this

W.W.J.D.? Well, if a man gets into a fight and gets his eye gouged out, God will forgive him for fighting, but he’s going to be a one-eyed Christian the rest of his life.

Consequences!

Vick can receive forgiveness for his deplorable actions, but he’s going to suffer consequences that are unbelieveable.

He will never suit up again as a Falcon and I seriously doubt any NFL team will want the aggravation of dealing with Vick.

I’d suggest that he devote himself to working with young people —- at least he could share his experiences and the importance of making right choices.

But, as far as I can see, the wealth and and adoration flew out the window when his homies ratted him out. Please note: his homies sealed his fate. If they’d kept their mouths shut, he’d have gone on denying (lying) about what he had done.

By Dee

August 20, 2007 5:12 PM | Link to this

He is still a star in my book, so no redemption necessary!!!! Luv You Mike Vick!!!!

By Elisa in Duluth

August 20, 2007 5:12 PM | Link to this

Absolutely not. He’s a coward and a thug. That kind of cruelty and indifference to life is shameful. When found out, he couldn’t even be a man and admit what he’d done without being compelled with greater punishment; I’m willing to bet that he’s not sorry for anything he’s done, he’s only sorry he got caught doing it.

By Falcon4Life

August 20, 2007 5:12 PM | Link to this

What is wrong with you people? I was one of those people that said let the process play out and now that it has played out, I see Vick for who he really is, a liar and a thug. All the people trying to bring in other arguments(cop killers, child molestors) save that for another day. It doesn’t take away what this Vick did. Anybody who tries to justify what he did or deflect attention to another issue needs to wake up. It was wrong and he’s going to pay.

By LTX

August 20, 2007 5:12 PM | Link to this

Vick should pay for his acts but right or wrong the black community supports him.We rufuse to see PETA (white people)rip him up.

By SteveO

August 20, 2007 5:12 PM | Link to this

Based on this forum it would appear that “supporting Michael Vick” is strongly correlated with “limited grasp of English language.”

By Doc Reem

August 20, 2007 5:13 PM | Link to this

Yes true enough in the immortal words of Fred G. Sanford M.Vick was a Big Dummy. It makes no sense! But let’s not overdue it with the “these were living creatures” propaganda. Yes they were living creatures that meant him no harm and he killed and used them for sport and pleasure. That’s Dumb especially when noboby at these dogs fights has enough money to really bet with a millionaire anyway. (What could Vick really have gained) But for you guys who think that the Black people on this forum are down playing this whole series of events with Vick just because he’s black you couldn’t be more wrong for the majority of us. Atlanta has never seen a QB with this much potential who actually have us a shot and he just happened to be a Black guy.

There are alot of White people that keep saying that he should be serverely punished and it’s the Law. Saying he should never be allowed to play football again. Saying If he killed animals in this fashion he must be evil. He should be made to pay money to Animal Sociaety right? Saying he should be serverely punished huh! Once again there goes that blind hate that rears it’s ugly head again.

Let’s not forget that alot of you white people did the same thing to millions of BLACK HUMANS less than 150 years ago.(everything M.Vick did to dogs was done to us) YOU DON’T WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT THOUGH DO YOU? Have you or any of your ancesstors done jail time, have you or ancesstors given any reparations to fix what you did, have you had to give up your career for what you did wrong. I’ll answear that for most of you, HELL NAW!

I’m just saying don’t be so quick to condemn this guy and say all Black people are taking up for him and he should be serverly punish and have his life taken away, and he’s evil, etc.

Without looking in the mirror first! Peace…..

By Gary

August 20, 2007 5:13 PM | Link to this

A thug is a thug is a thug….why are people so surprised at this behavior?? It will take something for more severe than this to make him change. Unfortunate but true, don’t hold your breath that he will anytime soon.

By Hellasirrah

August 20, 2007 5:13 PM | Link to this

Vick will have to keep in shape being a year out of the league without taking a snap. It will be hard to return. He probably will be a backup for some team in the league I really doubt a starter.

By TJ

August 20, 2007 5:13 PM | Link to this

Currently, his lack of character will not allow him to redeem himself. He has SO MANY ISSUES, this is just the beginning. He needs lots of professional and personal help and has given up his right to play professional sports due to the fact he has plead guilty to a felony. This is why society has rules and laws. Can any of you continue in your place of legitimate employment with a felony conviction?

By Tired

August 20, 2007 5:13 PM | Link to this

I DO NOT SUPPORT MIKE!!!! What he did was horrible. Dog fighting is horrible and cruel. There is a larger issue here. You are so racist people. One blogger is right - thug has replace n*. Everyone isn’t a thug? What is a thug? I am so tired of you people. Mike isn’t a role model for my family. Personally he hasn’t done anything to deserve that honor. Every black person isn’t an unwed mother. Every black person isn’t uneducated. Every black person isn’t born out of wedlock. Every black person definitely have broken the law. You blue eyed devils are safe to spew your racist comments from the safety of your computers. I wouldn’t be suprised to find out that I work with your - eat lunch with you - even talk to you workday. We are not a threat to you because regardless of what will happen we will continue to succeed. Before you judge and labe us - look at your rapists, child molesters, serial killers, dog-fighters, unwed mothers and b*******.

By Kasey

August 20, 2007 5:14 PM | Link to this

Not that I care that much about Arthur Blank, but if he’s really that humiliated by all this, he needs to go after some of the money and then donate it to a humane society.

As for Vick…meh.

By HOUDAWG

August 20, 2007 5:14 PM | Link to this

As said before, Vick is HISTORY !! And to ” Jimmy ” at top of post ….. so what kind of denial would you use when / if pictures ( that the feds have ) come out showing MV WITH the Dogs ?! HUH ?!

IDIOT !!!

By Dane Hoover

August 20, 2007 5:14 PM | Link to this

For him to redeem himself would take a quality of character he just hasn’t shown - humility. And if he suddenly appeared on talk shows talking about how bad dogfighting is, do you really think anyone would believe him? My opinion is that he is a serious sociopath with not an ounce of conscience. People like that can’t be redeemed.

By jeff

August 20, 2007 5:14 PM | Link to this

Blacks should just shut up, you can’t do anything without whinning. Vick is an idiot, and should go to prison. He’s probably done things to people too, and it will come out.

By Thomas

August 20, 2007 5:14 PM | Link to this

Looks like he’ll be just as good a father as his was never around or in jail seems like a pattern

By WNYsportsfan

August 20, 2007 5:14 PM | Link to this

Sure, he can redeem himself in the eyes of God and his family. But he can stick a fork in his endorsement deals and football career.

This is what refusing to grow up and let go of childish/stupid things will get you. I’m disappointed in the bad judgement he used. Saddened that he didn’t realize he was taking a huge chance for chump change and a macho blood sport. THank goodness I am not a Falcons fan…

And, um, Vic Supporter: I don’t recall casting my vote for you to speak for the African-American community, of which I am a member. Around my way, we are P** at him and are not blaming Peta (ok, a little) or White people (ok, just a smidge). We are blaming stupidity. His. But you go ahead and ride-or-die with your dawg.

By Bob

August 20, 2007 5:15 PM | Link to this

I’d say most folks didn’t even know dog fighting was against the law before this… cruel yes, illegal no. Falcon fans understandably don’t like being left without a starting quarterback while management is still paying the salary (and it counts against NFL salary caps). This may make it more diffcult here. He may be able to make it later in another city. I hope so. And I hope the NFL will take the fact that Mike apparently lied to Falcons management into consideration.

By judge

August 20, 2007 5:15 PM | Link to this

SEPERATE BUT EQUAL aen’t looking so bad is it.

By Denise

August 20, 2007 5:15 PM | Link to this

What better way to say it, “You without sin cast the first stone.” I love how people harshly judge others and never deal with their own issues. Many of you are horrible parents, thieves, liars and miserable people. You stand on the “perfect pedestal” as if your poo doesn’t stink. THUMP…I just pushed you off. Yes, what he did was awful and stupid but EVERYONE deserves another chance to get it right in life. Remember that when your stuff comes out in the open.

By David Duke

August 20, 2007 5:16 PM | Link to this

It is possible for Mike vick to redeem himself! He, however, must change dramatically in order to do it. He’s lied to Mr. Blank, Mr. Goodell, the Falcons staff and to his fans. His word means nothing at this juncture. To regain status as a decent human being he must realize that putting up an acceptable facade is not the same thing as being an honorable man. His time in prison will impress that upon him. As for playing in the NFL again, it’s all behind him now. All the money is gone and no team will ever again take him on. He has only himself to blame and when he can look in the mirror and tell himself he was a terrible person he will take a first step toward salvaging his life. Mike Vick was an athlete. As of next week, he will be a convicted felon. Many people have gone to prison and come out much better people. Some have come out with more problems than they went in with. It’s up to Vick to learn and to become better.

By PD

August 20, 2007 5:16 PM | Link to this

Well - Well I guess the truth finally comes out.
Now I wonder what all the black’s will say now.
This just shows that MV is a Lire and a THUG. If he would have came out in the beginning and stated he was a part of this and he is sorry all this would have been over. But NO all this was made up and he didn’t know anything about it. He wanted to clear his “Good name” Yea, there is nothing about his name that’s good. I guess this just shows that bad apples don’t fall far from the tree. At least his brother didn’t have to go to jail!!! Now watch there will some big rally put on by the NAACP on how the “THE MAN SET HIM UP”
In closing, By By Mr. I want to clear my good name.

By Steven

August 20, 2007 5:16 PM | Link to this

He is a convicted felon and a thug. He lied to the people of atlanta, his employer and himself. He could not even admit what he did until he was forced to. I do not see anyone defending him now. Those of you who want to gloss over this think about how this reflects on the black community, individuals incapable of taking accountability for their actions. Sounds so familiar.

By rarringt

August 20, 2007 5:16 PM | Link to this

Magneto,

My point (which you went to great trouble to sidestep) was that dogfighting is a travesty that is enjoyed by depraved folks, regardless of race.

Vick played a key role, and lots of folks (primarily white, but of all races) watched and bet on the ability of one animal to tear another apart.

Now, the question for you is which sport am I referring to? Dogfighting, football, or the hypocrisy of men and the media?

Did you choose?

Are you sure you’re right?

Or do you need to run it by Rush Limbaugh first?

By Justic

August 20, 2007 5:16 PM | Link to this

Sure he can redeem himself. All he has to do is bring all the murdered dogs back to life and pay the Falcons the $130 million. Simple

By KT

August 20, 2007 5:16 PM | Link to this

Yes, in time.

I am a white, native Atlantan, female, season ticket holder, and I love the Falcons and had always favored Vick. What he is admitting guilt to is hideous, and he should punished severely. During his prison time, he can reflect on his bad choices, horrendous acts and begin healing through forgiveness and therapy. I am sure he is very damaged already, and I feel sorry for him, due to his ignorance. I do not think MV realized the ramifications of these cruel acts.

I agree he should sincerely apologize, give millions to Humane Society, and start the healing process. Then, I will support and forgive.

What a fall from the top this is!!

By AJ

August 20, 2007 5:17 PM | Link to this

Can he redeem himself? I believe that once you make a mistake has large as this and personally suffer from it, you become more humble and you can see change in one’s face. REgarding this guilty plea. My understanding of the law when you accept a plea, you have to accept all that is written in the plea. If there are 10 line items you are admitting to all 10 even if you only participated in 1 of the 10. You have to admit guilt to them all. I would like to believe he sponsored it financially, but did not take part in the killings. Either way we all have done some things that we woudl not want plastered all over the paper so let’s pray this man can get his life together and still have a way to make money for he and his son. Additionally, I believe this issue was out of his hands as soon as PETA got involved and started threating Home Depot, Nike, Reebok and others. This became about corporate America and bottom line profits. I wish him well. I am a season ticket holder and I will be there in my seat and cheering for the team just the same. Any time a team looses a great player you are saddened this is no different for me.

By GG

August 20, 2007 5:17 PM | Link to this

Now you people in Atlanta can go back to not supporting the Falcons fans, like you did before Michael Vick came to town. What fair weather fans you are! They’ll probably be able to give away Falcons tickets by October!!!

By chipdip

August 20, 2007 5:18 PM | Link to this

HURRAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!TIME TO DRINK A COLD ONE AND CELEBRATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!BYE…BYE VICKY-POO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Nunna Yo Bianezz

August 20, 2007 5:18 PM | Link to this

Thanks my brother!!

All this time i was supporting u and had yo back against all of this rednecks who are only rooting against u because OJ got away (in their terms although he was set up like U)..But,u didn’t fight it..

And for the person who wrote that even the blacks won’t forgive him,u are wrong..We are p** as hell that he gave up and said he is guilty when we supported him thru all of this BS..

Now all i gotta say is,when someone white is looked at as being guilty of a crime of either killing animals or a person and they are of celebrity status,that the feds had better jump on it and investigate with the same intensity..If not,then it shows that this was an all out lynching of Mike Vick and he may have been set up!!

The same get up and go after as they did with Vick..

By kkk

August 20, 2007 5:19 PM | Link to this

When a human being throws away a 130mil$ contract for dog fighting, you got to examine his head to see whats going on before you put them back in society.Pure and Simple. This Stupid,SICK,DUMB,THUG needs a lot of help.Its also possible that his familyneeds help too!!

By ChocolateKisses

August 20, 2007 5:19 PM | Link to this

I am sure by now Vick has came to terms that he made a big mistake,all for the love of the sport (dog fighting) and love of money. He need forgiveness and support, we all have fallen short in some area of our lives. I do not believe in any form of abuse, whether it is human against human or human against animal, neither do I condone it; but I do believe in repentance and forgiveness. Out of fear and embarrassment he may have lied to people and I do believe if any of us was in his shoes we would probably react in the same manner to protect our image. This issue does not have anything to do with racial barriers, because all racial groups have good and evil existing in it. European, Asian, African, Hispanics and most racial group have dog fighting, c** fighting and other activities that constitute gambling and the element of betting. Citizens of Atlanta do not judge him harshly, lend him some compassion and forgiveness and hope that he has learned from this experience. Vick and his family are in my prayers … and I hope that the Falcons and the owners of the Falcons forgive and move on to better things. I hope that from this point that Vick will be more careful about who he associate with and make wiser choices and decisions for his own peace of mind. Everyone have a great day!

By Who Dat Be

August 20, 2007 5:20 PM | Link to this

You know, in Korea they are asking “Why is everyone so upset over food?”

By BIG_GRIP

August 20, 2007 5:20 PM | Link to this

Yes, he can be forgiven.

He’s human and a sinner just like everyone of us…

BUT PLEASE, LET’S NOT FORGET:

The animal cruelty charges are the LESSER of the charges against Vick.

The MAIN charges were the creation of an illegal gambling enterprise and crossing state lines to commit felonies.

If Vick was just fighting dogs in his backyard for fun (and killing a few now and again) the Feds wouldn’t even bother with the case.

Vick was acting like a little gangster, and in the process he violated RICO laws just like a REAL gangster.

This ain’t just about killing some dogs.

By Shawn

August 20, 2007 5:20 PM | Link to this

From listening to the grand jury reports it seems to be all circumstantial evidence and alot of hearsay that makes this a weak case, there are no financial transactions to prove that Vick is behind this. If it was so they would be able to see large cash withdrawals from his bank accounts and where are the gambling sheets linking him. There is no solid evidence in this case the three so called co-defendants probably have criminal records Vick’s defense attorneys could hammer away at them on the stand destroying their credibility and make the prosecution team look stupid. With no solid evidence linking Vick he could easily beat those charges. Vick should maintain his innocence. John Paul Jones quote “don’t give up the ship!”

By adawg

August 20, 2007 5:20 PM | Link to this

Poor Black people! It must be hard to be so ignorant and blindly stand up for someone who admitted his guilt himself. Whitey and The Man really stuck it to’em this time. If your culure is represented by a man like Vick, you even worse off than we thought.

By The Thin Guy

August 20, 2007 5:21 PM | Link to this

Michael Vick killed dogs. So what? Dogs are killed every day at animal shelters and puppy mills because they are not wanted. Did Vick do anything morally different? The methods he used to kill dogs were quick and effective just like the animal shelters. Some people take litters of unwanted puppies and just leave them in a trash dump. What could be crueler than that? Vick can come back if he adds a few phrases to his limited vocabulary such as “I’m sorry,” “I apologize,” etc. He needs to be seen patting dogs. He needs to go to the city pound and save a dog headed for termination. And he needs to stop acting like an anatomical orifice. If the Dallas Saddlebums Michael Irvin who snorted half the cocaine from Columbia and the Baltimore Crows Ray Lewis who kills people rather than unwanted dogs can be forgiven, why not Michael Vick? Wish I had gotten a No 7 T Shirt when they could be had.

By BiteMe

August 20, 2007 5:23 PM | Link to this

Hey, Think about it - Get a clue. Not everything is about race, but apparently it is to you. Just ‘cause you apparently never grew up with love or knowing how to love another creature besides people of your own color or creed, doesn’t mean the rest of us should be that way as well. If you agree that it’s ok to kill innocent animals, then I guess I have no problem with someone wanting to kill and maim YOU! You have no heart, and apparently no SOUL. BITE ME!

By Rusty Lode

August 20, 2007 5:23 PM | Link to this

No. People’s minds are made up about Vick at this point, primarily along racial lines. Nobody will give redemption to him when their heart is so full of hate. White people are like… “OK, you (blacks) got OJ off on a murder wrap, you got Don Imus fired too… But we got your QB and it feels soooo good”.. hahaha

By Koala

August 20, 2007 5:23 PM | Link to this

Redeem himself? Vick could have run over a entire family crossing the road while he was crazy drunk and totally high, and get more sympathy than for what he’s done. He murdered and tortured INNOCENT animals. He is a ghetto monster in every sense of the word. And if I read one more stupid post about him being black and innocent… Of course he is — black people are always framed, right?? LOL!!!

By tyra simms

August 20, 2007 5:23 PM | Link to this

Alicia are you kidding me he is done by the time ie serves his time and then the nfl penatlies kick in it will be 5 or 6 years before mike is eligible to play again by then he will be to old and out of the nfl for too long. he should of just came out from day 1 and say he was quilty and then he had a chance but he lied to the nfl comish so right then he pretty much killed his career. qoute i am quilty he said today so please lets all say he did it and forget the race card people hide behind he admitted today he did it he’s a bad nab!!!! its a priveledge to play in the nfl not a right

By Charlie_RH

August 20, 2007 5:24 PM | Link to this

Vick did not plead guilty to fighting dogs, torturing dogs, killing dogs, or eating dogs. That’s not what he was charged with, so all these inane analogies saying that it was or wasn’t as bad as killing people are worthless.

He was charged with, and pled guilty to conspiracy to violate the law. And by crossing state lines, that makes it a Federal beef.

Why is that so difficult to understand?

By the way, those of you who don’t see any difference between killing dogs or eating a hamburger, call me when you have photos of Vick eating the dogs after the killed them. At least I don’t torture my chickens before I eat them.

By Danny

August 20, 2007 5:24 PM | Link to this

The bottom line is Mike is human just like everybody else. Now you have some activist playing GOD. We must remember that there is no such thing as big sin or little sin. Everybody on this earth is doing some type sin or we would not be here, so let it go and move on. Whatever he did is between him and GOD And it’s really none of our business. We should not be looking up to man anyway. I know people who have murdered another human and had it easier than Vick. I’m not a Vick fan on the football field but I can tell you I will not watch the falcons without him. They are boring and sorry but Vick did give a sorry team a little hope.

By tyra simms

August 20, 2007 5:24 PM | Link to this

Alicia are you kidding me he is done by the time ie serves his time and then the nfl penatlies kick in it will be 5 or 6 years before mike is eligible to play again by then he will be to old and out of the nfl for too long. he should of just came out from day 1 and say he was quilty and then he had a chance but he lied to the nfl comish so right then he pretty much killed his career. qoute i am quilty he said today so please lets all say he did it and forget the race card people hide behind he admitted today he did it he’s a bad man!!!! its a priveledge to play in the nfl not a right

By CDS

August 20, 2007 5:25 PM | Link to this

Hey Vick Supporter,

Don’t you dare try to speak for me as a black person. Not everyone is as blind as you.

And all you ticked off season ticket holders, please get the hell out of the dome and leave it to true Falcons fans that will support the team despite what color the QB is.

Can we now have a stand-up guy like Warrick Dunn be the face of this franchise? Or is he not thuggish enough for some of you supporters?

By Carol

August 20, 2007 5:26 PM | Link to this

He & his friends are pure evil. They took lives in an extremely violent, horrific way, and apparently enjoyed it. Granted, not human- but those dogs all felt immense pain. Wow, imagine if any of these men have children… This all makes me so sick and angry.

By Zeek

August 20, 2007 5:26 PM | Link to this

Dirk6161,

Who is taking resposibility for the crimes against African-Americans? I don’t see you protesting the good ole US of A. Everything is in “black and white” EVERYTHING!

By Dog Lover

August 20, 2007 5:26 PM | Link to this

We shall be judged by how we treat the least among us. Dogs are the most innocent, defenseless, and dependent creatures on Earth. There can be no redemption for criminal savages. Since a civilized society cannot throw him to the dogs, Vick should know humiliation and shame, which pale in comparison to the unspeakable horror to which he subjected precious animals. He should never occupy a position of respect or be in the public eye again.

By David Lee

August 20, 2007 5:27 PM | Link to this

Vick has offended ALL dog lovers and certainly most of other pet lovers. He doesn’t deserve any lenience or kindness in light of his treatment and cruelty to these animals. he deserves the full measure of the law when deciding his sentence.

The best place to punish him is in his wallet ………… take away his career and all the glory. Such a talented jerk ……. what a waste.

By Chris

August 20, 2007 5:28 PM | Link to this

Tigers do not change their stripes. It is funny that Dan Reeves says that he is only 27 years old and people are forgiving. He is an adult people! Anyone who has a disregard for life regardless if human or canine is not capable of full rehabilitation. If someone wants a project, I hope it is not on Blank’s dime (or millions). Arthur has shown though that he has no problem selling his sole to the devil with Vick.

By BRIAN BIRGE

August 20, 2007 5:30 PM | Link to this

The NFL should never allow Vick to play again. If the jail time can be 5 years—he should serve all of it.

By lisa

August 20, 2007 5:30 PM | Link to this

I am black; African American and Mike Vick is in this mess because of Mike Vick. Hopefully he will be able to move on with his life once his debt is paid; not in the NFL I’m sure.

By John Davis

August 20, 2007 5:31 PM | Link to this

Okay, so now we know Michael Vick, aka: Ookie, Ron Mexico, or MV7 will not be returning to the Falcons anytime soon. I’m very hopeful though the Mr. Blank and Mr. McKay will take a look at another free agent quarterback. I’m told that Marcus Vick is still available!

By Eugene

August 20, 2007 5:32 PM | Link to this

I believe all God’s Creatures deserve compassion. But it seems to me that the penalty is a bit harsh. He does deserve punishment, but they were his dogs. If he takes them to animal control they would have gassed them. Is that more humane. I doubt it. Mike needs to take responsibility for his actions and grow up. He has made mistakes, and now he has a chance to redeem himself and turn his life around. Let’s hope he can.

By Vick Supporter

August 20, 2007 5:33 PM | Link to this

White people have so much hatred.

By Son

August 20, 2007 5:33 PM | Link to this

Joe “I’m a clueless retard” Horn just said on ESPN that he “still RESPECTS Michael Vick.” AND…that he “wants him to be the Falcons QB.”

The guys lies to the team, the organization, the NFL and to the fans and the guy still RESPECTS Vick!

Damn that dude is f-ing stupid.

By SCJack

August 20, 2007 5:34 PM | Link to this

He got what he deserved. Besides,he was the 31st rated qb in the NFL last year.He can run, but he can’t hide.

By Football Fanatic

August 20, 2007 5:34 PM | Link to this

It is really funny that some of you people still think he is not guilty. You think he was “set up”. The low life has admitted he did it DO YOU HEAR ME HE ADMITTED IT!!! Some people will pull the race card no matter what the facts are and those people are just admitting they are as stupid as Vick is! It’s 2007 people and athletes need to just come clean like the rest of us have to when you break the law. The race card is sooo overplayed these days it is downright comical. All of your lame excuses are going to fall on deaf ears! You have seen the last of your hero on the Atlanta Falcons because he was an idiot so just get over it!

By Justine

August 20, 2007 5:34 PM | Link to this

Isnt it ironic there is all this uproar about the death of dogs. PETA wanted to give 40 years to 2 kids under 18 for killing a dog. I wish PETA would have raised this type of concern when white Atlanta Police Officers received less than 12 years for the murder of a 92 year old black woman, lying about it,lying to a judge and planting drugs in her home. But then again, she was just a Black woman living a law abiding life in her home.

By Billperk

August 20, 2007 5:34 PM | Link to this

No, he will never be able to redeem himself now. Though there are some diehards out there who will defend him in spite of any evidence (read OJ). He will never play pro-ball again, never have another sponsor, never sell another product, and eventually be broke and unemployable.

By hell's kitchen guy

August 20, 2007 5:34 PM | Link to this

The first thing he needs to do is to reach out to PETA and offer his services as a spokesperson. that would show TRUE humility.

as for those people who say that the attention to this devalues human life: We should remember that domestic animals are sensate beings that feel emotions such as pain and devotion but are otherwise helpless against humans - unlike other adults humans. Thus, to betray that trust is, IMHO, even worse. (that holds true for very young children as well.)

and I don’t condone hunting and I’m a vegetarian - for reasons spelled out above. But even if you are a carnivore and hunt, there is a difference from taking a loving, trusting domestic animal and perverting that to hatred and abuse.

By Dandy Don Meridith

August 20, 2007 5:35 PM | Link to this

Sorry, Hoss, but you can “Turn out the lights, the party’s over… .”

By marcus3x

August 20, 2007 5:35 PM | Link to this

It is amazing how much hate whites can have for vick over dogs but remain silent when humans were done wrong in hurricane katrina and the kathryn johnston shooting. if dany heatley can get a second chance after killing a man why can’t vick get a second chance? i guess the dog is the white man’s best friend.

By Chris

August 20, 2007 5:36 PM | Link to this

This is a tragic situation for Vick and his family. His behavior has been awful since he became a household name at VT, so why are we surprised? The most disappointing aspect of this is what I have observed here in these postings. About 80% of those supporting Vick have grammar errors throughout there posting, only demonstrating the sad fact that those who havent had a the opportunity for a good education choose people such as Vick as roll models. Perhaps the next pro athlete will be a better roll model but that is doubtful.

By SloppyJoe

August 20, 2007 5:36 PM | Link to this

I am still puzzled how a person with a $100+ million dollars and a career that could reward him even more would choose to invest in dogfighting , words cannot express the utter ridiculousness of the situation and what it has cost Mr Vick . a few years down the road when all these events are digested Mr Vick’s decisions will be seen as a total lapse in common sense and judgement . His rehabiltation is in his hands and it can happen , but he has to show extroadanery honesty and character from here on out , it may not lead to an NFL re-do but wouldn’t he rather be known as a good person who made a mistake in the past.

By jm

August 20, 2007 5:37 PM | Link to this

Not in this town. Michael Vick sold out the city, the state and the entire Falcon franchise its legacy and its place in history. Arthur Blank trusted him and the fans wanted to believe him. He is guilty guilty guilty. Hope he gets a lifetime ban and plays on in Canada. Good ridance #7. Hope we never see you again and you never get a $1 from my pocket.

By vick fan_4life

August 20, 2007 5:37 PM | Link to this

nevermind what people say the man made a mistake its not the end of the world i hope he bounces back and rips the falcons apart. nobody is perfect and nobody has room to judge this man. nobody judged bobby cox when he got drunk and beat his wife, nobody judged patrick kerney when the girl was raped in his house so leave the judgement to GOD. mike you still have fans out here bounce back and cant wait to see you back on the field. and for the falcons in the words or rob snyder from the movie waterboy ” oh no we suck again”

By vick fan_4life

August 20, 2007 5:37 PM | Link to this

nevermind what people say the man made a mistake its not the end of the world i hope he bounces back and rips the falcons apart. nobody is perfect and nobody has room to judge this man. nobody judged bobby cox when he got drunk and beat his wife, nobody judged patrick kerney when the girl was raped in his house so leave the judgement to GOD. mike you still have fans out here bounce back and cant wait to see you back on the field. and for the falcons in the words of rob snyder from the movie waterboy ” oh no we suck again”

By enick755

August 20, 2007 5:38 PM | Link to this

I do find it a bit ironic that Arthur Blank and Rich McKay came back from an African safari where they hunted and killed animals.

By American European

August 20, 2007 5:38 PM | Link to this

When he gets out he’ll be Mohammed X.Vick sportin’a bow tie

By Jack

August 20, 2007 5:40 PM | Link to this

Michael Vick:

Lied to the NFL Commissioner. Lied to Falcon’s Owner Arthur Blank. Lied to all his fans. Starved dogs. Hung dogs up to trees and lynched them. Electrocuted dogs. Shot dogs. Tied them to “rape stands”. Was the financial force behind YEARS of cruelty to dogs (mult-state dog fighting). Engaged in illegal gambling (a big NFL violation)

How do you redeem yourself from this kind of behavior. The person who does these things is so cruel in spirit, do you think they magically “get better”?

Vick should go to jail for a VERY long time - David Ray Tant a WHITE MAN is in jail for 40 years for dogfighting.

And NEVER be allowed to play football.

“I dream of a time when a man will be judged by his character, not the color of his skin” - Martin Luther King

By A-ville Ranger

August 20, 2007 5:40 PM | Link to this

Vick’s actions should in no way reflect badly on the black community.The shameful support by what appears to be most blacks should and does however.I’m white and was raised in a small Ga town in the 60s.There were 10 in my family (8 kids).In 1965 my mother worked as a cook in a downtown diner to make ends meet.Freedom riders came in one day but none of the waitress’ would serve them.My mom first cooked the food then served them. This took both moral and physcal courage as any who lived in this area at that time knows.I hope more blacks come foreward to show courage and right thinking by condemning these sadistic acts….As for all the David Duke slime ball types please don’t think I support you or any of your backwards thinking ideas.

By european hater

August 20, 2007 5:41 PM | Link to this

yeah, he will be forgiven in the sight of god. Man dont have any thought process of convicting anyone. look at what the white europeans have done in the 1800’s-up to Now. They have robbed, killed, raped dogs, sheep, etc and still getting away with things thru the corrupted legal system. Vick brought excitement to the NFL. Without good talent mostly black, these leagues would be boring and no one would come out to see them. That includes MLB AND NBA. Most white americans love this day, but guess what one of yours will go down.

By David

August 20, 2007 5:41 PM | Link to this

In my eyes, Michael Vick was a horrible person when he did not come forward and offer help and hope to the victims of the Virginia Tech massacre! That was his school!! I’m an animal lover, and no one should be forgiven for drowning, electrocuting, and hanging man’s best friend!!

By James B. Dawson

August 20, 2007 5:41 PM | Link to this

It’s gonna be tough. If he had bellied up when first accused, admitted to the truth like a man and shown some remorse, not for having been caught but for having committed the crime, he would have had a better chance. To me, lying about it in the face of the inevitible truth is almost worse that dog fighting. Does he think the world is stupid or does he just think his celebrity status gives him one up on beating the charge. You can kill your ex wife and her friend and get away with it but you’d better not expect jury nullification if you have abused animals, not in this country any way.

By mj

August 20, 2007 5:42 PM | Link to this

It’s sad that the ATL has such uncultured, ignorant and uneducated people that continue to think that race is the problem with this Vick CRIME and still support him! It just doesn’t matter which race it was that committed these stupid and unnecessary crimes, it just shouldn’t have happen to someone in his important position as a leader for our town. NO MATTER WHAT RACE. He’s a THUG. And regardless of race, the people in the ATL shouldn’t look stupid to the rest of the world by supporting this loser of a person.

By American European

August 20, 2007 5:42 PM | Link to this

He is a victim of a racist society and should be giving a free pass like OJ

By LaterVick

August 20, 2007 5:43 PM | Link to this

Are we seriously going to ask this question? Vick doesn’t have to redeem himself for this…He was only relevant as a football player for the Falcons, now that he will be gone who cares if he redeems himself. I’m tired of all the people taking his back for this, saying it’s aweful how this happened to him…It didn’t happen to him!!! His stupid, thuggish actions caused this. If we had a real legal system, his punishment would be to let the dogs he had fighting for him, tear him apart like the piece of crap he is.

By shee23

August 20, 2007 5:44 PM | Link to this

First I’ll like to start off by asking this. Is Ray Lewis still playing, is Leonard Little still playing, is Jamal Lewis still playing, is Randy McMicheal still playing? The answer is Yes, they are. R. Lewis involved in a DOUBLE homicide,(2 humans) J.Lewis involved in Drug deals, L.Little vehicular Mangslaghter (Human being) and still was driving drunk afterwards, R. McMicheal domestic violence against his wife. Wow, Vick’s crime is bad, but like all the others he should be given a 2nd chance. This is his first time. I’m a dog lover and I would allow him to play for my team if I owned one. If Blank is so worried about his image, then one big move would be to have a forgiven one.

By jane

August 20, 2007 5:44 PM | Link to this

“yeah……..right”

By Leon

August 20, 2007 5:45 PM | Link to this

Michael was just set up by a bunch of those thugs, after the government offered them a deal. He should have fought these charges and beat them in court, like OJ. The racist prosecutors are once again trying to persecute a successful black man. It’s the plantation mentality all over again.

By CHARLES J HARDING

August 20, 2007 5:48 PM | Link to this

FOR GIVE AND FOR GET. LET US MOVE ON. FOR GIVE ALL WHO LIE AND CHEAT, ABOUT DOGS AND WAR

By Rachelle

August 20, 2007 5:49 PM | Link to this

There is some self-righteousness being promoted out here. All the folks espousing values and concerned for life animal and human alike and then in the same breath turn around a call for the “death, crucifixation and alienation of one human being. ” Whoever among us who is without Sin cast the first stone… ” It is about race because if Michael Vick were a white athlete all support would be towards a slap on the wrist on this thing would have been handled ” way on the downlow” Please be reminded that the Constitution of these United States considers a black man only 3/5 human therefore the scales of justice are always imbalanced against us. I am black I am a Pit Bill dog owner and lover and support Michael Vick the man because were it left up to you haters he would be hanging from a tree. I thank GOD that none of you are GOD. Fear not what man can do but remember all sin is against GOD and only He has the Power to forgive and holds the Keys to Heavens gate. Michael Vick will be well because you Paranas will have fresh meat here shortly because this crazy nation keeps a fresh scandal. He pled guilty so the blood thirsty could begin to look elsewhere for fresh meat. You haters are worse than Dog-fighters. You are Men-Killers

By squeezeplay

August 20, 2007 5:52 PM | Link to this

any man can come back in God’s eyes. football or not. the only eyes that matter. i prey from mike and his family.

By J.T.

August 20, 2007 5:52 PM | Link to this

Have you ever seen how black men handle their dogs ? Ever notice that their dog of choice is most often a pit bull,chow,doberman,german shepheard ? They have a common bond : Anger.Visciousness. If you did a racial breakdown of PETA members,I bet more than 97 % of them are white,flower children types.Black men are not very compassionate,don’t really care about the rights of animals,or humans(hence prison population statistics).The truth of it is in Atlanta,Georgia is that most black people in that city would like to see white people ‘locked up’,guilty or innocent.They carry a ‘chip’ on their shoulder,have not recovered from slavery,use this chip to remain ‘unnaccountable’,play the race card.’Get over yourselves,it’s 2007’.They will not step up and stop violence.That’s what the real discussion is all about with them.They want to continue to get away with pulling s**t.I say we get Barack Obama in on this issue.How would he see it, in all fairness ?

By NASDAQ

August 20, 2007 5:53 PM | Link to this

Thomas, the term “African American” honors our heritage. Our ancestors were from Africa if you didn’t know that.

By Fair play

August 20, 2007 5:53 PM | Link to this

It just shows how messed up this society is..Everybody is acting like Mike Vick just killed 26 human beings…For crying out loud can you compare how many kids(and adults) have been mauled by pit bulls over the last year..No!!!! Because PETA don’t want you to know about that!!! Ohhh and don’t you think human fighting(Boxing,Kick boxing,street fighting)is just as immoral as dogfighting…We pay high dollars(even bet) to see somebody get there head knocked off!!!!…Wake up America!!!!

By Sandy

August 20, 2007 5:53 PM | Link to this

I realize what Vick did was wrong; however, I’m amazed at the public’s response. You seem to care more about dogs than you do about people. Would you be this outraged if he killed a black man? The answer is likely…no. I don’t condone Vick’s behavior, but the consequence is too great. Vick my thoughts and prayers are with you.

By montanadawg

August 20, 2007 5:54 PM | Link to this

Vick is an idiot. Those were innocent animals trained to kill and be killed. I hope he rots in hell

By dragnslr

August 20, 2007 5:56 PM | Link to this

Yes he can redeem hisself with time and good actions that show he truly knows he made a mistake.But if you think this is a big conspirecy by the NFL,FBI,or whoever because he is a black QB then why havent they gone after Mcnabb,who is a much better QB then vick,or any of the other black QB’s in the nfl?can’t answer that can you?

By Allysa

August 20, 2007 5:56 PM | Link to this

Had Michael come clean when this first came out I would say maybe. Michael lied and acted like he knew nothing about it. I say NO now. He needs to fade into the sunset.

By juscooln1

August 20, 2007 5:57 PM | Link to this

God knew peter would give him up to hang on the cross, but he forgave him anyway. This world should practice more on forgiving, and we would be a lot better off in these times. As for mike be sencere God will listen to your prayers, God listen to the sinner on the cross next to him and really did DIRT, and forgave him also. Those without sin cast the first stone !! I will pray for YOU.

By caz

August 20, 2007 5:58 PM | Link to this

I keep reading of examples of other types of incidents involving other people. What most of you that are trying to relate Mike Vick with these others fail to realize is that this is about Mike Vick!!!!!!!not these other people or situations!!!! The man broke the Law and Lied about it!!!How can you condone it. Talk about the facts of this case, the others do not have a place here!

By enick755

August 20, 2007 5:58 PM | Link to this

I sent a comment over 15 minutes ago. Why hasn’t it been posted? Why hasn’t anyone said anything about Arthur Blank and Rich McKay and their African hunting safari? Hey, PETA they were out cruelly killing innocent animals!

By Big Billy

August 20, 2007 5:58 PM | Link to this

To Swatlanta:

You need to clean up your culture. You, and it, are sick.

By dturman

August 20, 2007 5:58 PM | Link to this

He is a child of God just as we all are. Some of you ignorant people act as if you have never sinned or fallen short. We fall down but we can get back up again. God is a forgiving God. If Ray Lewis can come back after a murder trial & Jamal Lewis can come back after serving federal prison time for drugs, surely Vick can get a 2nd chance. We are talking about pitbulls-the most vicious dog their is. Where is PETA & the other animal rights activist when this same breed of dog has mauled & killed humans? Talking about being hypocrits. My heart hurts for Michael as a human being. Forget that he is a football player, he is a human being first. The only person any of us should worship & idolize is God. Thou shalt have no other God’s before me—according to scripture. Where were you so called Falcons fans before the Vick era when they couldn’t give away a ticket to a Falcons game? Give credit where credit is due, the man sold out the dome. He made Falcons football exciting. To Mike Vick, just remember that God is a God of a second chance.

By Adam

August 20, 2007 5:59 PM | Link to this

To Sloan: Getting angry and calling African Americans names isn’t going to help you prove your point. To some of you who have posted: I hope that some of you aren’t calling yourself a Christian. Forgiving someone else for their sins is part of being a good Christian. If you can not do that, you are falling short of your goal to be closer to God. Vick needs to pray and ask God to forgive him for his sins. And then he needs to try to piece his life back together one day at a time. Also he may have to accept the fact that he may never play football again. If he’s allowed to play again, he should thank God for the opportunity. As for his “friends”, let this be a lesson to future NFL stars. You’re going to have to be much more selective of what you do and where you go with some of your friends. You know who likes to act a fool when you go out. Leave him at home.

By Ike

August 20, 2007 5:59 PM | Link to this

” I could care less about the dogs that died.”

well, unfortunately for you the laws of the US government and the Federal agents who enforce those laws do.

By Jimmy

August 20, 2007 6:00 PM | Link to this

There really are “thugs” out there in the world.

And they are PROUD to be thugs.

And guess what, white people didn’t create them.

Nobody held Tupac down so that “THUG LIFE” could be tattooed across his stomach.

The black community needs to ask itself why all these young black millionaires want to emulate gangsters, pimps, and players.

WHY IS THAT?

By bobbie

August 20, 2007 6:02 PM | Link to this

No because he is not going to do the jail time he should be getting, he is getting the superstar treatment. When he serves his time, my opinion, about 40 years, then maybe, but since he wont. NO NO NO!!! No excuse and anyone defending him is just as quilty as he is. He is a thug, if he wasnt a football player you would not allow him around your children or animals. What if he would have done this to your dog?

By Santa Clause

August 20, 2007 6:03 PM | Link to this

All I know is that he isnt getting anything from me this year!!

By NASDAQ

August 20, 2007 6:03 PM | Link to this

Jeff, what’s your problem? Did you loose your hood at the klan rally last night? What an ignorant b*******.

By Lee

August 20, 2007 6:03 PM | Link to this

No, Michael Vick can never redeem himself. There is NO excuse for the horrific crimes he committed. He’s a vicious, filthy-dirty, lying, violent, soul-less, piece of garbage MONSTER. He and his thug friends will never be adequately punished for their crimes. WHITE OR BLACK, this crime is indefensible and all who participate will BURN IN HELL.

By JP

August 20, 2007 6:03 PM | Link to this

Vick should not have blown off Congress. As horrible as the crimes are, do you really think the Feds would naturally commit the resources to this case. No way - Vick p** off somebody really important that called in some favors. The Man brought him down but Vick put the noose around his own neck.

By JBird

August 20, 2007 6:04 PM | Link to this

Michael Vick has owned up to his crime (even though pressured by the plea bargains of his partners), and that is more than I can say for most of us. Let him serve his time, and when he gets out, we should wipe the record clean. Martha Stewart is back using her talents to make millions, so should Michael Vick.

By Phildo

August 20, 2007 6:04 PM | Link to this

Who cares? Maybe his mother. Had absolutely everything and blew it on nickle and dime garbage for what, to impress his worthless posse, who rolled over on him in heartbeat? A great athlete, a lousy QB, and fatally flawed as a human being. Let’s face it. The guy is moron.

By Augusta

August 20, 2007 6:05 PM | Link to this

NO! I only wish O.J. was in the adjacent cell. Both are SCUM!

By Rachelle

August 20, 2007 6:05 PM | Link to this

Like I said before the term thug is now the new “N” word I dont care what the formal definition is. Whiteys are now using it to be safe in expressing themselves while Black people use it as a term of endearment as we once used the banned N—- word. And “yes” I am racist, so what, crucify me. You call me racist or think that I am because you are. being called racist doesnt bother me. We know how to finesse life. “Haters”

By caz

August 20, 2007 6:05 PM | Link to this

The sad truth is Mike Vick was/is an average quarterback at best. An exciting football player yes,but a 50% completion rate and just barely better than 50% won/lost record. Unfortunately excitement does’nt equate into shrine in the hall of fame. Is a fun to watch,heck yeah. But a Great quarterback-No. Sorry

By Steve

August 20, 2007 6:05 PM | Link to this

Micheal is done in the NFL and should be. It’s time for him to own up to what he has done. So far he has not done this. He needs to do time for his crime.

By Silent Ted

August 20, 2007 6:05 PM | Link to this

To some folks, “Vick” and “Vicktim” are the same thing. For brutally killing some of God’s most special creatures, for gambling, and for lying—he’ll never again be respected by decent people and will never again play in the NFL.

By Adam

August 20, 2007 6:06 PM | Link to this

* Jeff, if you don’t have something nice or productive to say, don’t say anything at all.* By the way, white people whine just as much as black people supposedly do. This blog alone features plenty of white people whining about reverse racism. If it’s not that, they’re whining about all of the things that the mean black people won’t let them do anymore.

By Jay

August 20, 2007 6:06 PM | Link to this

Let’s just all pray that he repents, confess his sins, ask God and everyone he has offended to forgive him … and hopefully we can all move on!!!! This has been very draining and painful.

By Ralph

August 20, 2007 6:07 PM | Link to this

I just read where one wrote that “he didn’t kill a human”, this person just doesn’t get it, a person who kills a man or animals for the joy of killing, is a very sick individual. Yes it’s sad that more attention is pay to any athletic, from O.J. to any one who have broken the law and gotten away with it. The 3 students killing execution-style shooting in new jersey, is another example what type of people are out there, an inhuman and unforgiving act of a spineless, and a sadist mined. No Vick didn’t kill a human, and no one said he did or he ever would. But how can a human enjoy electrocuting or drown a dog for the joy of it, or because the dogs didn’t perform up to par. If Vick had a bad game which he has, and to punish him, he would receive electrical shock, he would be barking everywhere. So let him pay the piper, and maybe he’s young enough to learn a lesson and get his life back to normal if he every had one.

By Grant

August 20, 2007 6:08 PM | Link to this

Forgiveness is a word that is going to be thrown around a lot in relation to this story in the coming weeks. Depending on Vick’s course of action in that same time period, forgiveness should be granted. If Vick come out, truly shows remorse for what he did, realizes how wrong, disgusting…(fill in your own adjective)… this is, and asks for the forgiveness of the fans, the city, and the league, then I think that could very well start a much needed healing process that would benefit everyone. All we need now, is for Vick to handle this badly, and essentially pour more gasoline on the fire that is on the verge of an inferno.

By KHAKI - BLACKIE

August 20, 2007 6:09 PM | Link to this

Mike Vick’s turmoil came from the lack of manners…etiqutte…or what some would call HOME TRAINING. Everything from the ghetto isn’t cool. If it was everyone wouldn’t be trying to move out. This is notTHEUNITED STATES of HIP-HOP/RAP.You and all other people BETTER RECOGNIZE. Open your eyes and a book and search for that which is good and respectful in your life as you walk through it. There are 300 million people in the UNITED STATES. There have to be rules so that we all can have a chance for an enjoyable life.Stop worshipping self,power,money and the things money can buy.There were people like Frederick Douglas,the Black regiment (MASSACHUSETTS 54th)from the Civil War,the Tuskegee Airmen,Rosa Parks,Harriet Tubman and Martin Luther King who put all on the line so Black people can be educated and afforded opportunities to be all that God Blessed us with gifts to be. To live in the depths of arrogance,greed,disrespect and disciple of the NEGATIVE HIP-HOP/RAP CULTURE is an insult to the dignity and bloodshed by our honorable AFRICAN AMERICAN ANCESTORS whose only joy was invisioning a day when their children could be what was only an unanswered prayer in their own suffering lives.Praise the Lord for their HONOR and all those who revere their unselfish love and sacrifice. They made it possible for so much….even being a multi-million dollar athlete who doesn’t feel like representing AFRICAN AMERICAN DIGNITY.

By Steve

August 20, 2007 6:09 PM | Link to this

Think about it, did not take you long to start playing the race card did it? Very sad that the black community cannot own up to the fact that this man did something very wrong but because he is a black man then he is being framed. Keep going through life with your head buried in the sand. It will get you as far as it did this man.

By Hope

August 20, 2007 6:11 PM | Link to this

PLEASE get VICK out of there… His character has definitely been under scrutiny with the string of inappropriate and / or questionable behavior. The latest allegation is simply disheartening for the humane treatment of any animal subjected to the cruel unnecessary practice of dog fighting. Vick should be punished with the maximum punishment allowable by law and he should be removed from the spotlight of the youth and public that once looked up to him.

By realist

August 20, 2007 6:11 PM | Link to this

I’ve seen some people who are still trying to defend vick. people like “Alicia” who put in all caps at the bottom, “Vick Supporter” have some issues. to support someone who not only fights and wagers on the deaths of defenseless animals but also takes part in killing them is THE worst thing you can do short of killing a human. “Alicia” said she doesn’t care about dogs and doesn’t give a (expletive) about what we think; i’m wondering if a person could be a little more shallow. i’m not sure.

Then a supposed Vick supporter says that the Falcons aren’t anything without Vick and we know it. Now the Falcons won’t be able to give a ticket away. Ok, this person is also not extremely smart. 1st off, the NFL is a giant and will sell tickets regardless of what Michael Vick does, maybe not as many, but one person doesn’t make the NFL or a team. 2ndly, he said the Falcons would be sorry and would pay for it??? as i see it, i think Vick is the one who is going to pay here. Because Vick IS going to jail whether you support him or not. At the end of the day, the NFL is moving on and will continue to operate; or at least that’s how i understand things to work.

Last point, one person says to not judge Vick for pleading guilty b/c we have no idea what went into that decision. Well one thought would be he decided on that b/c well, he IS GUILTY and the reason he pleaded out is becuase he knew the court would find him guilty and get an even longer sentence and fine. See, that’s how that works.

I find it wild how some people will support someone down to the end just because they can play sports very well. Nothing else to them matters. They guy did an unspeakable crime whether you think it is or not. It’s not a crime for no reason. The precedents are set forth for a reason.

I still see people trying to make this into a racial issue. That also is shallow and ludicrous. It’s just like supporting him b/c you’re a Falcons fan; some people think they have to support him b/c he’s black. I never have supported a white kidnapper, rapist, or someone who kills endagered species to compare apples to apples just b/c they’re white. Reason: it’s wrong! It’s funny how some people can’t wrap their heads around that. I honestly think some people would support Vick if he killed a human and the craziest things of all is they’d find a way to justify it.

Bottom line- if you can find a way to defend Vick, you really need to sit back and look at your life and assess where you are check your morals and blind faith in someone. michael vick is not a good guy, his brother is not a good guy. does he deserve forgiveness and a second chance? yes. but you see the thing is you have to ask for it. God will for sure and maybe i will someday too. I tell you who won’t; the State of Virginia. and rightfully so.

By Toreanna

August 20, 2007 6:11 PM | Link to this

ARE YOU SERIOUS…THIS A TALENTED BALL PLAYER!!!! MICHAEL BROUGHT EXCITEMENT TO ATLANTA…HE IS THE ONLY PLAYER THE FALCONS HAS HAD TO FILL AND SELL OUT THE DOME!!!! EVERYBODY HAS THE RIGHT TO A SECOND CHANCE. DIDN’T YOU GET A SECOND CHANCE? IF THEY LET VICK GO FROM THE NFL…THEY WILL LOOSE MONEY, GREAT TALENT, AND FANS!!! TRUST ME WHEN I SAY WHERE EVER VICK GOES HIS FANS WILL FOLLOW, NO MATTER WHERE AND WHO HE PLAYS FOR OR WITH!!!

By angela

August 20, 2007 6:11 PM | Link to this

I don’t know if Michael Vick can redeem himself but hopefully the NFL and the media can by giving the same attention that the Michael Vick case has gotten to other professional athletes who beat and abuse women and hang out with known criminals. Animal cruelty is horrible but I think its interesting that this dog fighting ring has garnered more attnention than crimes these athletes commit against other people.

By TheFactt

August 20, 2007 6:12 PM | Link to this

Let’s talk about the facts and quit crying about this case being about race. I don’t hear any white people talking about the NBA referee was targeted because he is white. Let’s talk about Mike Vick and his gang bangers stealing a Rolex out of another passengers belongings, Mike Vick transmitting Herpes then lying about it, Mike Vick smuggling marijuana, and then Mike Vick flicking off (Black Fans) in Atlanta. Mike Vick and his gang banger friends (so called drug dealing, gun token, gambling idiots that all turned on him. Oh they were all black. I think it’s funny that only in a black city like Atlanta you find people bringing up the race issue.

By Chris

August 20, 2007 6:14 PM | Link to this

Ha ha ha! NAACP, SCLC, other racist groups, where are you now? Where are those protests? Looks like he IS guilty after all huh? Just another darky athlete getting in trouble. Funny how white athletes rarely get into trouble. Hey afro people, you will have to cheer for a white QB now, can you handle it? May Vick burn in hell.

By Pit Bulls

August 20, 2007 6:16 PM | Link to this

Never, no one who does this should be allowed in free society, hang him in the public square, spare us all.

By arichey

August 20, 2007 6:16 PM | Link to this

Man please this country is such a hypocrite.Mike will do a little time and the idiotic nation of ours will go back and find something else to go after.Important to send a message to vick?Really how about Leonard Little of the rams mowing somebody down while drunk and getting an 8 game suspension.wow only in dumb america can we condem somebody for dog fighting will human death is now second on the humanity chain wow!!!!!

By Deebo

August 20, 2007 6:17 PM | Link to this

Too many crimes have been committed by athletes—vehicular homicide, homicide or alleged homicide, drug charges, gambling etc for anyone to say that Vick cannot redeem himself. Yes, he lied, but what person caught up, who is trying to save his neck and career, doesn’t start off lying. Most people do. We all need to stop calling him a thug, stop playing the race card, and stop judging him. Vick is not for us to judge; judging him is reserved for a much higher power!!!! Let’s stop the hate and hope that he earns from his mistakes and finds some better associates!!!

By Mr. D

August 20, 2007 6:17 PM | Link to this

Of course he can redeem himself. Although what he did was very wrong, he still didn’t take a human life. He definately should show remorse by making a public apology and make donations to the animal rights groups. And lets be real here, Mike Vick has sold out stadiums his whole life. Always has and always will which means he will play in the NFL again and rightfully so. Many players in all professional sports have been convicted of assaulting women, drunk driving and many other crimes and are still allowed to play. And Mike Vick should be given the same opportunity. And if he shows remorse for what he has done I would like to see him back with the Falcons

By ajw

August 20, 2007 6:18 PM | Link to this

If Woody Allen can redeem himself, why in the heck can’t Vic. Woody Allen slept with his underage adopted daughter, divorceed Mia, and then when the daughter came of age married her and had a child. And still makes those goffy movies that you all love and stand in line to see, yes movies by a man who slept with an underage girl. how about that race card white america.

By Artie

August 20, 2007 6:18 PM | Link to this

No way!!!! It’s obvious that he’s NOT remorseful in any way. When is he going to man-up and speak for himself??? He needs to stop issuing statements through his attorneys (we all know damn well that these statements are written by his attorneys because he doesn’t know any big words). The people need to see and hear him speak his OWN words (even if they are difficult to understand)!!!! BTW…that was a nice, brief career you HAD in the NFL.

By Bill

August 20, 2007 6:19 PM | Link to this

Sure he can redeem himself just not with the Falcons. Oh and by the way Terrance Moore who spoke on espn you are an idiot, do yourself a favor and do not speak for the people in GA!!!

By Jermaine E. Osgood

August 20, 2007 6:20 PM | Link to this

Hell no! His reputation is shot! Que lastima!

By BGR

August 20, 2007 6:22 PM | Link to this

Yeah, everyone deserves a second chance — unless you don’t demonstrate the proper tenacity for fighting. Then? Better hope Michael VIck doesn’t decide your fate.

By Doctor H

August 20, 2007 6:22 PM | Link to this

I think he should be able to play again when he is 70. Seriously though.. If he plays again I am done with the NFL for life. I will speak of it only as a bunch of savage animals. I bet all that Vick has learned from this is that if he wants to enjoy torture and blood again he should buy a mansion in Argentina so he can continue his perversion. He blew it, he’s mentally ill, he’s unfit to be the hero of a bunch of kids, or adults for that matter. Should we wait till he moves up to torturing people? He would clearly enjoy it. Ban him for life or the NFL is out of mine forever

By Lowcountry Bulldawg

August 20, 2007 6:22 PM | Link to this

Sylivia Williams,

Its sad that a black man in America catches hell? What? He is a criminal. Should he get a free pass to kill animals just because he is Michael Vick and black? Your statment shows a lack of intelligence.

As a white male I am tired of being labeled rascist just because I have an opinion about a young black male who has committed a crime. I am an American an entitled to my OPINION. You may disagree with it,but do not not the easy way out and label me a rasicst.

By kp

August 20, 2007 6:23 PM | Link to this

I just love these guys who are worried about black-outs and a return to the Falcons of old.
These are the same kind of guys Vick surrounded himself with in the first place. These guys protest an injustice — but they are worried a football team and its impact on them. Not on Michael Vick.

By Lisa

August 20, 2007 6:24 PM | Link to this

Although redemption is tough for me to see, especially being the proud mother to two rescued pitbulls, I will defer to the espn.com article I read the other night by Gene Wojciechowski and a conversation he had with the President of the Atlanta Humane Society…

“Vick could write a check. Something in the two commas, six-zero variety. It wouldn’t bring back the dogs that were allegedly tortured and killed at Bad Newz, but it would save others. The AHS (Atlanta Humane Society) has an annual operating budget of about $4.5 million. It cares for about 400 animals, including about 200 dogs. A Michael Vick Endowment Fund of, say, $5 million, would help bankroll the AHS for the next 20 years. Now that’s a legacy.

By Disgusted

August 20, 2007 6:24 PM | Link to this

Vick is a SICK, DEMENTED man. Anyone who enjoys pitting dogs against each other for profit is twisted and should be punished to the fullest extent of the law. Anyone who thinks this poor excuse of a man deserves a 2nd chance or to be forgiven is clearly ignorant. Vick knew what he was doing was not only illegal but unethical at best. Do you really want the QB of your football team to be a degenerate? I would hope not. Atlanta, now is the time to prove to the country that you will not allow such a disgrace to occcur in your own city.

By Jay Black

August 20, 2007 6:24 PM | Link to this

I hope Arthur can still sell tickets. Because he won’t without Vick! He’ll be back strong in ‘08. And wherever he plays, I’ll be watching that game.

By WHOANELLIE

August 20, 2007 6:25 PM | Link to this

HEY, IS THAT JJJOOOEEE FROM THE ATLANTA FALCONS MESSAGE BOARDS YEARS AGO? I GUESS YOU FEEL VINDICATED, I THINK YOU WERE THE FIRST VICK HATER.

By dozier

August 20, 2007 6:26 PM | Link to this

All this proves to me that the true haters in the world are not white. Any group that will look over a crime that someone commits just to cover their own insecurities has a fundamental problem. It certainly does not help their cause.

By back to knowing you are going to lose

August 20, 2007 6:27 PM | Link to this

. Repent vick to God. He will be with you if you do that. Dog fighting is illegal. That not the point no other player in the history of sport has been lynch in the press and by sport writer like vick. Gambling is illegal why is there a line on each game on every team? you hear white people say race has no place in this If you can’t see race all over this you don’t want to see it. The law is for black but the rule is for white. Vick was wrong let’s be clear. But the media was wrong even more. Black male don’t look for forgivness from man when you do wrong this what they want to do to all of us if they could. I have no faith in america. I see why the world hates the usa. This punishment is over kill . Peta don’t want the pit bull no one else wants them either. If vick was white the fed would have never moved in peta pushed it! look at all who has been locked in a white man sports all black. To hell with the NFL when they know they comply with gambling every week . every team has a line -3 + 6 . If vick made 250 k peta would have not said a word and nor would the haters!

By Sick-of-it

August 20, 2007 6:28 PM | Link to this

Why is it that every single time a famous black person gets into trouble or BREAKS the law, the blind black supporters say its the White mans fault and the white man is after every successful balck man. Everyone is a “hater”. Incredible. Pulling the race card every time something like this happens is getting very very old. Did you see white people saying the black man was out to get Pete Rose? Is it the black mans fault every time Paris Hilton does something stupid? Get over it and quit talking out of both sides of your mouth. You want the world to view you as an American regardless of race, creed or national origin. Every time this moves forward, the blacks throw race right back in everyones faces when one of their boys gets into trouble. Just shut up for once and face reality without throwing race into the situation.

By talacqcon

August 20, 2007 6:31 PM | Link to this

one word … T-O-A-S-T … (and it’s burnt at that). Career over, C- Ya

By Jake Bogartis

August 20, 2007 6:34 PM | Link to this

Gangsta = Housing Project Drug-Dealing Welfare Bum, (money from drug dealing is barely enough to support Gansta’s own addiction, thus, the “Gangsta Welfare Check”).

I’ll assure you that Ron Mexico was equally involved in the drug branch of Bad Newz Enterprises.

Gambling allegations alone are enough, (by NFL rules), to Null And Void the contract of Mr. Mexico.

The judge will break with norms in sentencing THIS first-timer. Mexico had limitless options for entertainment; why did he choose this one? He could have done ANYTHING he wanted to entertain himself. He CHOSE this! Bad Choice!

He’ll receive a 2-year sentence, (federal sentences are not subject to parole or early release), followed by a lifetime gambling ban from the NFL. Take it to the bank!

Any moneys his attorneys don’t get will be gone within a couple years of release.

He’s become Mike Tyson without Don King’s help. To me, that’s his greatest feat!! He sucked, and would have continued to suck, as an NFL quarterback. His skills are more suited to the project playground.

He’s done, and for now, so am I…

By JSC

August 20, 2007 6:36 PM | Link to this

No, he cannot “redeem” himself. Vick is NOT a child. His actions toward animals will not change no matter how many times he says he’s “sorry” (yeah, sorry his a* got caught!).

And, Vick did not make a “mistake”. A mistake is when you spill a drink on someone, it is NOT a “mistake” to hang or drown dogs REPEATEDLY.

Vick is scum. I really wish I could say what he truly is.

By Whitey Fjord

August 20, 2007 6:37 PM | Link to this

It’s offical: I am henceforth a Euro-American.

By AJ

August 20, 2007 6:38 PM | Link to this

It goes to prove that you can pay a guy 100’s of million $ but it won’t stop him from wanting MORE.

His career is over!!!

By Darcy

August 20, 2007 6:38 PM | Link to this

This scumbag had a once in a lifetime chance for a wonderful NFL career and tons of money that could have been used to better himself and those around him. But he chose to spend his fortune to fund an illegal and gruesome dog fighting hobby. Pathetic and absolutely idiotic. He could have done so much good with his celebrity and fortune.
Very sad. No, no redemption here. He HAD his chance. He is pathetic excuse for a human being.

By monica

August 20, 2007 6:39 PM | Link to this

What was the question again? Oh, can he redeem himself? NO.
I have been watching video clips of him on sports TV starting in 2000 and you can see a different man emerging in the last 2 years.
“With great power comes great responsibility.” Mike got power but never responsibly.

By Jack

August 20, 2007 6:40 PM | Link to this

NO!! First, who would want him on their team? If he were to come back, don’t you think that he will be a ‘chew toy’ for some gaming corner backs? He will have an ‘X’ all over his body. Additionally, how many teams would like to have a PETA demonstration at each home game — and for that matter, at each away game. The guy did himself in, and for WHAT?? What did he major it while at Va Tech? Idiocy????

By Kris

August 20, 2007 6:41 PM | Link to this

Redeem himself to me? No, but only because he lied from the beginning saying he looked forward to clearing his “good” name which really wasnt that “great” anyway. Ex.: Herpes incident, flipping off fans, etc..

By Race Card

August 20, 2007 6:42 PM | Link to this

For all of those that are comparing Vick fighting dogs to white people owning slaves and think white people don’t want to talk about it….my family moved here after Emancipation Proclimation and even then lived in the North. So am I still a racist because I believe what Mike Vick did was irrehensible and is a complete sociopath? Get over the race card, the Feds didn’t bring this case up because of his color, they took it because he crossed state lines AND had a DA that was more worried about re-election than justice.

Some of you need to look up the definition of racism. When you talk about “white people this” “white people that” you are truly racist.

By steelchair

August 20, 2007 6:43 PM | Link to this

No, he’s a thug. What’s to redeem. He has screwed the Falcon’s, Blank, the city of Atlanta and all the fans. Let him redeem himself somewhere else.

By Come clean

August 20, 2007 6:43 PM | Link to this

Michael Vick had a chance at redemption if he had just come clean from the get-go. It is hard to do that —particularly for someone like himself who has probably always been allowed to get away with things —certainly would have been easier given hindsite to what has happened.

Michael Vick the man should have —and still needs to —ask for forgiveness from his family, his friends, his teammates, his boss, and most importantly, his Lord.

By AJ

August 20, 2007 6:44 PM | Link to this

VICK’s career is OVER…much like the dogs he put down for UNDER PERFORMING!!!!

Perhaps I will watch Falcons football now that he is gone.

By fisher

August 20, 2007 6:44 PM | Link to this

I really don’t see how he could possibly play again. Who would want to be like Mike?

By judge

August 20, 2007 6:44 PM | Link to this

I hate rachelle.

By THE Tom

August 20, 2007 6:44 PM | Link to this

Yes, he can redeem himself, but only AFTER his mea culpa does not benefit him monetarily… until then, he will insincerely say and do whatever it takes to salvage some of that contract money.

If he says he’s sorry when he’s 50, and has lived a changed life doing good between now and then, he will be redeemed.

By TG

August 20, 2007 6:46 PM | Link to this

As if the dog fighting and killing was not enough, lest we forget that he lied to ALL OF US in his adamant denials. He only took the plea deal when they threatened to charge him with just about every crime that the textbook would allow. I’ll give the Vick defenders that this is a part of the culture within the environment in which Vick grew up. But, how do you defend his arrogant dishonesty to the NFL, federal, state, and local governments, and the children that look up to him as a role model? How do those in the African American community that support Vick defend that????

By Rick

August 20, 2007 6:47 PM | Link to this

I don’t know why he pled guilty. All he had to do was get some African-Americans on the jury. They never would have found him guilty….ask O.J.

By Not Ever

August 20, 2007 6:47 PM | Link to this

Marcus 3x,

This is not about hurricane Katrina, but about Michael Vick and his passion for killing dogs. I’m an African American and I enjoy my dogs company very much. You need to wake up and accept the fact that Mike is a sick individual that broke the law and got caught. What does hurricane Katrina have to do with Michael braking the law, nothing this is just something you brought up to defend his behavior which pretty sick in it’s self. This is what led me to question the black community, I mean this man is wrong but yet you would rather debate on other subjects that don’t even pertain to the problem at hand. Just to let you know white people were also affect by Katrina, so don’t act like only black people have a problem down there.

By Erin

August 20, 2007 6:48 PM | Link to this

it kills me to read all of you people who are playing the race card here… who cares. If this was Tom Brady or Peyton Manning, the response of fans, sponsorships and endorsements getting yanked, and investigation and charges would have been the exact same. The black people on this post saying white america will love this day need to shut up and realize their racist attitudes are what the biggest problem is. This case is NOT ABOUT RACE. GET OVER IT.

Vick may be able to redeem himself personally, but no amount of jail time or money donated to PETA will make people forget that he was physically involved in murdering innocent animals. No sponsor will ever touch him again, and it would take one desperate owner with a non-existant fan base to re-sign him. As a VT alumni, I was a huge Vick fan and didn’t give a crap whether he was black or white. Now I just think he’s a despicable human being. Killing a domesticated animal like a dog isn’t a mistake, its something lacking in your values and moral system. I am not a Falcons fan, but I can’t see why anyone would stop supporting their team because a player was let go, especially over such vile circumstances. talk about bandwagoners!

By Epicurus

August 20, 2007 6:48 PM | Link to this

Vick will be forgiven by the NFL and the public, here’s why: We hold athletes to a different moral standard, they can shoot people, beat wives, and get into bar fights at their leisure. Because, as long as they shuck N’ jive with a big grin on their face—and the right white people are making money the PR machine will wag the dog and the public will be forced to forgive. Whether the public forgives Vick will be in direct relation to his white owner’s ability or inability to extract a profit from him.

By Jack

August 20, 2007 6:49 PM | Link to this

What Vick did was bad enough, but he took his old ‘crew’ with him! He could have done so much good with his celebrity and money, but HE DIDN’T! He chose to fight dogs — and God only knows why!! He then LIED to the NFL, Falcons Managment, and apparently to the Feds. Now, it is pay back time, and that sure can be painful and costly.

He is such a pathetic role model, doubt that even the Oakland Raiders would want him, providing he is not banned for life in the NFL.

Can you imagine — if he comes back to the NFL — some very talented defensive end doing a ‘Vick’ on him?

Who in the future can trust him??? Do you???

By Knoxvolgirl

August 20, 2007 6:49 PM | Link to this

I have been a fan of Mike Vick since his days as a hokie and traveled to Blacksburg on many weekends during my college years. I had also followed his career in Atlanta and even traveled to the dome to watch him play. Yet, I can honestly say that it sickens me to see his face on the television now that I know the atrocities that he was a party to. I hope that he receives the maximum punishment that the law allows. I also vow to never support, in any way, any company (or team) that has any affiliation with Vick in the future. Most of the people that I know share this opinion. For that reason, though he may be forgiven by some, I don’t think that he will ever be successful again as a professional athlete.

By Morris

August 20, 2007 6:49 PM | Link to this

The whole thing is overblown, but let’s put it in perspective: He broke laws. He lied to his boss. He lied to the Commissioner. Most importantly he lied to the fans. The people expected more and got less. He shouldn’t expected any other reaction than the outrage that is now occurring. If continues to claim innocence, or blames others, or give more phony pledges to follow the straight and narrow, then they will never forgive him. People don’t like being taken for fools.

By Mike is RICH!!!

August 20, 2007 6:50 PM | Link to this

It was just some dang dogs!!!! Who cares, you FOOLS not running down to the humane society trying to save all those dogs they killing EVERYDAY!!! What are you doing that wrong: molesting boys/girls?, cheating on your wife with some dude down the street?, shooting your wife, kids and then yourself?, etc. IT WAS JUST SOME STUPID DOGS!! QUIT EATING MEAT IF YOU CARE FOOOOLLLLSSSSSS!!!

By BiteMe

August 20, 2007 6:50 PM | Link to this

Did you REALLY just compare Woody Allen with Michael Vick?? HA HA HA HA HA HA! OMG, ANYTHING you people can come up with.

By big rosie greenbaum

August 20, 2007 6:51 PM | Link to this

To the person called Morris: Keep our perspective? Are you serious? You really believe that humans are above dogs? Why, exactly? I’d really love to know what rationale you can come up with as to why humans deserve better treatment than dogs or cats. I’ve never heard of an animal coming home after a long day of work and beating the crap out of his female. As far as I can see, dogs and cats don’t murder their own kind for pleasure or profit. So really, explain to me why humans should be protected when it’s humans like this psycho Michael Vick who cause all the suffering in the world while animals are just animals and love unconditionally. And remember, Mr. Bleeding Heart, cruelty to animals is a PSYCHOPATHIC BEHAVIOR and is a pre-cursor to killing your favorite animals, the humans. Glad I’m not one of you.

By jeremy

August 20, 2007 6:51 PM | Link to this

As an Eagles fan I just have two comments about Vick. First, he is getting what he deserved; he broke the law and he is a sick man for doing what he did to helpless animals. Second, he was not a very good quarterback. So get over it; your team was going nowhere with a quarterback whose passing abilility was second tier at best. EAGLES!

By Steve

August 20, 2007 6:52 PM | Link to this

I don’t know….

He’s made a joke of his Profession, his league, it’s commissioner, his host city, it’s fans, his business owner, it’s managers, his own family, his college it’s members, their fans, former polayers and most important he’s made a joke of himself.

He goes from something to nothing in record time.

He is one of those who belived in O.J..

No there is no redemption from this he’s stupid like Tyson.

Next stop, tattoo shop for great face tat.

By JOYCE

August 20, 2007 6:54 PM | Link to this

Just let me say I am not a dog owner or lover, nor will I ever be one. However, I am a lover of humans. No one seems to asking the question of whether or not the people causing the mass murders of Americans and Irag citizens can redeem themselves. I never see the hypocritical PETA people protesting when a child is raped by a pit bull or a pit bull has killed a person. I never saw PETA protesting in front of the White House when Chaney was out shooting quail for sport, I might add and then shooting his friend. What do you think they do with all those quail they shoot? Take them to the white house chief, I don’t think so. While I do not condone dogfighting, cockfighting, greyhound racing, shooting animals for sport or wrestling, I do not feel that a person or an animal should be killed or mutilated. The same people who are vilifying Vick are the same ones that go back to their rural towns and spit tobacco while watching cocks fight, dog fight pigs and kill the greyhounds that no longer can produce a win. I feel that people have taken their love for animals to an almost sickening level and should look at this for what it is a mistake. Is this not what is said about going into IRAQ?

By Ljdawg

August 20, 2007 6:55 PM | Link to this

Why would he want to ever play for old racist Atlanta again! Loserville and racist bums! Vick will be back because of one thing, he is good! And not to mention rich so all of you losers can kiss the dollars signs coming out of his back side! Good luck with your losing seasons!!!!

By Doctor H

August 20, 2007 6:55 PM | Link to this

O Ya. I am Canadian and we don’t seem to have all this Black - White garbage. This has nothing to do with color. Both Black and white pet owners love their dogs. This is also not about killing animals in the a humane way. When someone enjoys pain and suffering of helpless innocent animals is SICK and Perverted. Hanging and slamming dogs to kill them after they get chewed up for your pleasure is not humane. Lots of people that get their jollies this way move up to humans or children so that they can recognize the pain and fear even more, which is what turns them on. Vick is finished, hopefully forever.

By Ed

August 20, 2007 6:56 PM | Link to this

Mike Vick can redeam himself in my opinion by using his talents for the betterment of mankind. Will he, I doubt it. Should he again play for the Falcons? No. I feel his presence will be too divisive for the good of the team. There will be team mates who will not forgive as well as a large sector of the fan base. Is this really important in the big sceme of things? Not to me. I live in central America where having something to eat is more important than being entertained. I view him as one of the greatest athletes I have ever seen and enjoyed his performances but one man doesn’t make a team and he had little regard for his fans, the city, the league or his team mates in having chosen to make the decisions that he made. Forgive, no problem. Forget or trust, a different story.

By PJ

August 20, 2007 6:56 PM | Link to this

The last trial I remember of someone torturing and killing animals was Jeffrey Dahmer. And, at this point that’s about the class of person that I put with Michael Vick. Did Jeffrey Dahmer deserve a second chance? Torturing animals is a sign of deeper problems.

I’m just amazed at the way some of these people defend public figures that can do no wrong and then if that doesn’t work, last but not least, make it a racial issue because the whites all will “Jump” and say “And how high?” if you play the race card.

By The72John

August 20, 2007 6:58 PM | Link to this

I’m confused…what does this have to do with race? Are black men exempt from prosecution because they are black? Because that’s the message that I’m seeing from some people here.

The simple fact of the matter is that Vick broke the law, knowingly, willfully, and repeatedly. Please explain to me how race factors into that equation?

The man is a low-life thug who has been given tremendous opportunities in life and has failed to take advantage of them. He deserves far worse than he’s getting, to be honest.

If you really think this is a “race issue” then you are too stupid to be commenting in a public forum.

By Epicurus

August 20, 2007 6:59 PM | Link to this

Whether the public forgives Vick depends, absolutely, on his white owner’s ability to extract a profit from him.

By Swatlanta

August 20, 2007 6:59 PM | Link to this

To the individuals who attempted to call me out. I never said that Vick was innocent at all. He should be punished, not as severely as some of the hateful people on this blog suggest. I don’t care about the dogs, they are just animals IMO (like chickens, cows, etc.). I have never fought dogs or attended a dog fight. I have never hunted animals with high powered rifles in the name of sport either. I just don’t see the difference between Vick killing 8 dogs and the Humane Society killing 15+ million animals a year. They were his pets/possessions. I think that his punishment should be equal to a minor traffic violation.

By AJ

August 20, 2007 7:00 PM | Link to this

OMG - Please Atlanta get over the “RACE CARD”.

This is a case about a MAN commiting unspeakable acts to an animal that did not have free will to fight or flee.

HUMAN Wrestlers have the free will to choose to fight or not, THESE DOGS DID NOT.

Plus, think about what if we (or VICK) killed the low wrestling performers….does “THAT” bring it home for you?

By SKJ

August 20, 2007 7:00 PM | Link to this

FINALLY-The real football fans will support a team and not a player! Those are the fans I want to seat next to at the Dome-I don’t recall seeing Vick hold up the Lombardi Trophy-for those Vick fans-that’s the trophy for winning the SUPER BOWL!!

By Ken

August 20, 2007 7:00 PM | Link to this

As a huge football fan, a dog lover, and a former Vick fan, I believe that people who harm or kill dogs, should go to jail.

People who says this is a “race” thing, is wrong. If this was Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, or any average American, they also would go to jail and they deserve to go to jail. This is not a race issue, this is about a person who did a stupid thing and deserves to go to jail. Why should it be any different for Michael Vick? Becasue he famous or because people of Atlanta and only Atlanta want to to be free, so they can WIN a football game. Thats is just STUPID.

Michael Vick is not even that good as a quaterback. How many Super Bowl’s has he got the Falcons too or even won? Let’s see NONE!

Vick deserves to got to jail and anyone that kills dogs deserve to go to jail. I am glad that his “so called friends” were ready to rat him out, once they find out that they were going to jail for a long time. Vick should of saw this coming or even knew IT IS AGAINST THE LAW TO FIGHT OR KILL DOGS.

I hope the Falcons can still be good and prove that they dont need a dirt bag like Michael Vick.

By TechStudent

August 20, 2007 7:00 PM | Link to this

Vick will not redeem himself until he grows up and matures. He is always being referred to as a “kid” and will remain that way until he does something to sway the public in a positive manner. If Blank keeps Vick, he is insane. I will just hate to watch Vick do what he does best on another team that will pick him up for a meager price. By the end of his jail sentence and suspension, I hope he has invested time and money into some animal rights organization or spill the beans on some other dog fighters.

By KB

August 20, 2007 7:00 PM | Link to this

The guy is classless. I think everyone pretty much understood that when he flicked off his own fans. Though exciting in the open field, he was not a winner in the sense he could bring a Super Bowl ring to Atlanta. Utterly classless.

By Derek

August 20, 2007 7:01 PM | Link to this

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Ask Paul Hornung and Pete Rose about Redemption …

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By JSC

August 20, 2007 7:01 PM | Link to this

Let me guess. All y’all black folk screaming “it’s WHITEY’S FAULT that the head thug of the Falcons killed all those dogs” weigh 300 pounds, have a name like jaquetha, had your first kid at 14 (and your first welfare check), do not have a job (because that would cut into your Jerry Springer watching), but you DO have a computer to b*** on about whitey (while we’re out working every weekday to pay for your food and diapers).

Am I right? Bet I am.

By Kevin

August 20, 2007 7:01 PM | Link to this

Although I consider the dogfighting as a despicable act, let us not forget that a woman chased her 5 children around the family home and drowned them one-by-one in Texas. That same woman is free and back into regular society as I type this response. If we can forgive this woman, we can certainly forgive Michael Vick. He should be allowed to redeem himself.

By Jake Bogartis

August 20, 2007 7:02 PM | Link to this

Playing the race card allows blacks to not take responsiblity for their own actions. If they can’t get a job, it’s whitey! If they break the law it’s whitey’s fault! If they’re d******* in school, it’s gotta be whitey!!

Let me tell you ALL something! Blacks now have MORE of an opportunity for advancement than whites! Affirmative Action, college grants, and every welfare program in the known world is provided for them, BY WHITEY!!!

Cry all you want about Whitey, but it’s Blackey who holds Blackey down…… AND EVERYBODY KNOWS IT!!!

By jimmycpa

August 20, 2007 7:02 PM | Link to this

Its sick to see a group of african americans try to blame this on whitey..7 afican americans implicated no. 7..how quaint by the way..it will be 7 days before he pleads guilty..and probably 7 months before he reports to prison…

By mike

August 20, 2007 7:02 PM | Link to this

No. I feel sorry for him, but I think that he’s killed his career. I really wish that he made other choices in his life, but he didn’t. It’s simple. Besides the insanity of what he did, there are two things that “get” me. One is that I think he represents a group of highly talented sports figures who are raised to do one thing - play football (or some other sport). Forget spelling. Forget how to write or speak a sentence. Forget common sense. Forget responsibility. The second thing is that he (and those like him) are surrounded by high priced lawyers, “spokespersons”, mothers, media reps, league officials, and agents who continually attempt to convince us fans that these athletes are competent, smart, “aw shucks”, astute people. Some are no doubt. But, listening to Michael Vick (and others) speak publicly without a prepared document is scary. It’s scary because he’s scary - he comes across like a guy who is up to no good. He can barely construct a sentence or a uniform thought. I think the scariest thing is the vast number of people who dismiss his (and others) “mistakes”. How can anyone justify the kind of stuff he apparently has admitted to? You know, Jeffrey Daumer tortured animals as a child and ended up a serial killer. Finally, I would like the NFL to list the schools that players have GRADUATED from - - not the schools they’ve attended. In most cases, I suspect, players haven’t graduated, nor did they have any intention to. Today, Mike Vick’s lawyer said that he was “most concerned” about Mike’s future, not his football. I suspect, again, that the attorney was “most concerned” about how he was going to get paid. Hey, if Mike had completed college, he might actually have a future!

By dozier

August 20, 2007 7:03 PM | Link to this

So it’s just “some dogs” eh? The only time human beings should kill is self defense or for sustenance (something to eat for the less educated). Blacks should be more sympathetic since the hip hop landscape is littered with dead people who are victims of black on black crime. Does name Tu-Pac mean anything to you?

By Erin

August 20, 2007 7:03 PM | Link to this

Mike is Rich,

You might have just made the most ignorant comment on this board- First of all the Humane Society doesn’t electrocute or drown animals because they couldn’t win a fight, you MORON. They are eauthinized because there aren’t enough homes to go to and its more humane to put them to sleep than let them starve to death on the side of the road, or let some as*hole like Vick scoop him up and make him fight.

Also, insinuating that meat eaters should equate their dietary preferances to killing innocent animals is not only ignorant, BUT STUPID. Dogs are not breed to be killed and eaten, like cows and chickens. You are exactly the kind of idiot that feeds the stereotype that Southerners are stupid.

By Lori

August 20, 2007 7:04 PM | Link to this

Why isn’t the IRS going after him for tax evasion for the money he earned on the betting? He’ddo more timefor that then he willfor the plea agreement fortourturing the poor dogs. I hope he rotts in HELL!

By Dandy Don Meridith

August 20, 2007 7:07 PM | Link to this

I HAVE A SERIOUS QUESTION FOR AFRICAN AMERICANS: Is it possible for a white man to have a meaningful relationship with African Americans?

The white men in Vick’s life tried to mentor him and rewarded him in a way that is unbelieveable, yet, the relationships seem to be inconsequential.

I’ve worked with and had African Americans work for me. The relationships, in my judgement were productive, meaningful and social —- having them as guests in my home. These relationships appeared to be based on mutual respect **

But now I’m wondering: was it make believe? Did they spit in my tea when I wasn’t looking. Is is possible for whites and blacks to look beyond color and race and value each other as human beings? Just wondering.**

By The Murf

August 20, 2007 7:07 PM | Link to this

It sure was nice to hear Buck and Kincade on ESPN putting racebaiter T. Moore in his place!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By morris

August 20, 2007 7:07 PM | Link to this

I suggest you re-read my post, creature called Big Rosie, because you missed the entire point of what I said, you frikin idiot.

By PJ

August 20, 2007 7:07 PM | Link to this

Michael Vick was born with GOD given talents that most are not given. He has made terribly impaired decisions about how to use or not use that gift. If he had put his heart and soul into his football career, he would have suceeded, winning a Super Bowl or not. He was lazy, did not study the game, cared NOT to grow and get better year after year after year. He should be ashamed for not using the gift God gave him and building upon it. Instead his choices were to make everyone else responsible, never taking any resposibility himself for the mistakes he made. Arthur Blank should have known that Vick was not his QB when Vick threw the obscene gesture to the fans that put the money in his pocket. After him not performing well should we have hung him, electicuted him or drown him for not being good enough…..like the dogs????

Nothing will change Vick because he does not want to change. I am so glad that he will no longer represent the Atlanta Falcons or Atlanta. He was DONE years ago and no one would admit it.

By lakeman

August 20, 2007 7:08 PM | Link to this

i hope and pray that the falcons dont make another mistake and allow this thug in one of their uniforms…he is a thug and will continue to associate with his thug crew….he has been pampered all his life and now it is time that he pays the piper…the falcons were awful before him, were awful with him and now should move on and be awful with someone else of his ilk…

By Derek

August 20, 2007 7:08 PM | Link to this

Jeffery Dahmer Abused Animals as a Child …

By AJ

August 20, 2007 7:09 PM | Link to this

“RICH”

Try English 101

By Artie

August 20, 2007 7:09 PM | Link to this

All of the posters crying racial bias just need to get over it!!!!! Vick is a GHETTO THUG…always was and always will be…period!!!! He’s living proof that $$$ can’t buy you class!!!!

By Rusty Lode

August 20, 2007 7:12 PM | Link to this

Rick, you’re exactly right… I can’t for the life of me understand why he pled guilty. 1 holdout (racist black person) would’ve hung the jury… It makes no sense. I was so looking forward to the aftermath of that debacle… haha

By Morris

August 20, 2007 7:12 PM | Link to this

Hey **ED @6:56 PM

Exactly what talents does Vick have that he can use for the betterment of mankind?

By cas

August 20, 2007 7:15 PM | Link to this

Mikes’ problem was that he got involved with so called friends that rolled on him. Look at Ray Lewis, he was involved in a murder but his friends never talked. I guess Virginians are just a soft people..they roll easily. Regardless of what happened, its just dogs. Society kills dogs everyday - check out how many doe daily at the dog pound. I guess we value dogs lives more than human life. Its a sad day when a life - human life is ruin because of dogs. I guess its true..dog spelled backwards is some people’s God.

By John P

August 20, 2007 7:18 PM | Link to this

Threats about empty seats is worthless; the real money is the owner’s share of the multi-billion $$$$ TV contracts - you think they care about 8 home games. Associating with these thugs and such nasty activities and lie to the owner and commish is simply poor judgement so he would never be able to make decisions on the field when it counts - he threw the ball right to Dawkins in that playoff game in Philly - he lost to Cle and Det in the same year!!! He just doesn’t have it and now with him outta the way, you ATL fans have real hope for the future.

By ga tom

August 20, 2007 7:19 PM | Link to this

Talk about your 2 fur, Arthur Blank got our flag changed & Vick paid him back for it. Maybe when Vick goes to Oakland his fans will follow him there, reducing rush hour by 2 cars?

By barney F

August 20, 2007 7:19 PM | Link to this

Yes Vick can be redeemed along with his football career, but true redemption comes from a sincere heart and God can only tell if it’s authentic. People in Atlanta and this country are hypocrites judging Vick when they SIN everyday and are forgiven by their creator.

Yes, Vick needs help, MENTAL HELP if the accusations are true how he killed dogs. If you were to drive in a neighborhood, and witnessed someone with an ax chopping dogs, drowning, electrocuting and hanging dogs, you would call the police and he would be put in a MENTAL INSTITUTION for evaluation.

The only thing the Vick case has done is actually show the disparity between Black and White skinned humans since we all are of one race, HUMAN. It shows how bigoted and prejudice society is after this country was founded over 200 years, and the resolution and healing of our difference will probably never happen.

By MJ

August 20, 2007 7:21 PM | Link to this

The bottom line is that Mike Vick has already earned more money than any of you people will earn in your lifetimes. He will be out of jail in 14 months and will be back in the NFL after a 2 or 3 year suspension and all of you will be paying money to see him play for Atlanta or some other team. In America, athletes can get away with anything - all they have to do is say they are sorry and do their time. As long as that athlete can make a team a winner, the fans will show up and pay their money.

By ddd

August 20, 2007 7:21 PM | Link to this

You know what!who cares. Now all you outraged people who were so upset about Vick put your energy to another cause “THE JENNA SIX” lets see how much time and energy YOU put there. I didn’t like so. Get outraged about a worthy cause and not about someone putting a damper on your entertainment (football). You venters SUCK!

By LA Girl

August 20, 2007 7:21 PM | Link to this

What is wrong with our judicial system? All of you making comments about what Vick did BUT none of you know the truth. We are all speculating on what the news media is saying.

By John C. Fremont

August 20, 2007 7:23 PM | Link to this

Jake Bogartis, your 7:02 comment is completely correct. Anyone that can’t see that plain truth is naive, or just plain stupid.

By LA Girl

August 20, 2007 7:26 PM | Link to this

NFL - how much money did Michael Vick bring to the NFL?

Falcons - how much money did Vick bring to the organization?

When did the Federal Government ever prosecute a dog fighting? Why would they step in for such a case? Are there any on the books?

By Kris

August 20, 2007 7:29 PM | Link to this

You tell em Tammy!!!!

By Swatlanta

August 20, 2007 7:30 PM | Link to this

The end result is the same Erin. The dog is dead. I’m appalled that the humane society would kill those animals instead of feeding them and providing an area for them to run and play. I’m appalled that horses are shot up with drugs, have a 120lb midget placed on their back, and are forced to run full speed for two miles while being beaten by said midget. I’m appalled that after the race, the same horse is often put to sleep because the drugs have worn off and the horse is near death (also greyhounds). I’m appalled that 65 year old white men feel that it’s a fair battle between the cunning deer,and the high powered rifles they use to kill them for sport from 200 yards away. Save your self-righteous babble for someone else. Why would a cow or a chicken be less important than a dog ? A life is a life, correct. hmmmmmm

By Girly Girl

August 20, 2007 7:31 PM | Link to this

Why the Federal Government is NOT investigatin the NBA referee? This is insane! Why couldn’t the state of Virginia handle this case?

By Greg

August 20, 2007 7:31 PM | Link to this

I am so tired of people putting down dog fighting. We do worse when we eat hamburgers and hotdogs every day and allow hunters to kill with bullets and hunting bows. PETA and people protesting dog fighting as barbaric are hypoctrites. We kill animals every day for food and sport and you don’t hear a peep from most about those. I guess dogs get special protection and treatment because some people think they are cuter and more desirable than other animals. I’m sure cows wouldn’t agree with dogs being more valuable. Dogs are certainly not the smartest animals either. I am just tired of the hypocrisy. I want to see dog on the menu in the U.S. It taste good like chicken and dogs don’t deserve special protection over chickens or cattle.

By Supreme Being

August 20, 2007 7:33 PM | Link to this

Since many of you have chosen to bring me into this conversation I feel the need to voice my opinion. For the record, I dont like him and he wont be seeing me anytime soon. I recommend some place a little hotter.

Best Wishes….

Your Friend,

God

PS. My son doesn’t like him either.

By MIke

August 20, 2007 7:34 PM | Link to this

Yes,and I will not watch the falcons until he returns.What about the white guy that BEAT his Girl FRIENDS DOG to DEATH with a HAMMER?He still plays FOOTBALL and did no time in JAIL!HUMMMM FEDS???????The VICK heaters don’t even watch FOOTBALL,so go watch GOLF and go stop your local shelter from SLAUGHTERING ANIMALS.

By Lala

August 20, 2007 7:35 PM | Link to this

Michael Vick should have paid a huge fine i e 15 million, required 2000 hours work at a Humane Society center or vet school i e VT, and a one year ban from football. After 1 year let him get back on the field making money and paying taxes!!!!! Mr. Vick could also use a handler to keep him on the straight and narrow life of being a citizen. Maybe the NFL should also take another look at Ray Lewis and Leonard Little they are still playing after a hit/run and just a hit. I guess Mr. Vick should have bet on humans and be involved in their training.
Lala

By damon

August 20, 2007 7:39 PM | Link to this

He can’t redeem himself when he’s no longer in the publics eye (ie. off the team for good)

so no, there’s no way for him to ever get that chance

By Jeff

August 20, 2007 7:39 PM | Link to this

The charges against Vick were NOT racially motivated.

It would be no more acceptable to let Vick off the hook for this because he is black than it would be to let Pete Rose off the hook because he is white.

Michael Vick is an adult and is responsible for his actions in our society.

If I, for some insane reason, were to decide tomorrow to fund and participate in an illegal dogfighting operation in my backyard, I am responsible for everything that results from that decision. Period. I just picked up both ends of the stick - and that includes both jailtime and negative career implications.

America will never forgive six years of dog abuse, no matter the degree of punishment that individual ultimately receives for his actions.

It should be noted that it is a simple fact that America loves its pet dogs. Loves them. Man’s best friend.

Have you ever seen a movie where the pet dog gets it? There is much more emotional upheaval over this event when compared with the death of any human character. Why? Because dogs are loyal creatures whose fate is up to the owner. Men, for the most part, choose the life they lead. Dogs leave that choice up to us.

To those who argue that killing a dog is not illegal, you are correct. Giving a dog an overdose of barbituates to end its life happens every day, and though unpleasant, is widely considered a humane way to accomplish the task.

Let’s compare that to the methods employed here. You couldn’t drag me into a movie theater to watch that show. And that is the image forever imprinted over the handsome face of Michael Vick in the eyes of America.

Redemption is Impossible.

In conclusion, the glove fits. His NFL career is over, and the only redemption he may receive is from God, his close friends and family, if he is lucky. He will never redeem himself in the eyes of the average NFL fan.

America will never again appreciate the work of such a cruel and foolish man.

By stinkybirdpoop

August 20, 2007 7:41 PM | Link to this

The feds should give him the max penalty; the NFL should never let him play again and impose the max fine possible; Finally, they should let Vick loose in a cage with 8 pit bulls hungry for his blood & let him go 4 quarters if he lasts that long

By LJ Roswell

August 20, 2007 7:46 PM | Link to this

Michael Vick needs to be FIRED!!! He should have had the common sense not to hang out with criminals in the first place. But then, you are the company you keep. How selfish in making his decisions he never thought TEAM he thought ME. All that leads to his own self destruction. Can he redeem himself…perhaps after PRISON!

By Greg

August 20, 2007 7:46 PM | Link to this

I am so tired of people trying to make athletes into role models. They are not. Teach your kids to appreciate their athletic talents and that is it. Tell them no one knows whether they are good in their private lives. That would be like me assuming George W. Bush is nice and upstanding in his private life. I don’t know that and most people don’t. Same with Bill Clinton, Karl Rove, Janet Reno, etc. Appreciate the public works that they do, but don’t assume they are morally pure in their private lives or you or your kid may get burned.

By Realist

August 20, 2007 7:48 PM | Link to this

I wonder if certain members of the ATL community would still support or be such diehard fans of Mike Vick if he spoke proper english and behaved like a civilized human being such as Tiger Woods or Colin Powell, instead of 50 Cent…oh by the way, regardless of race, he’s a subpar QB who runs the ball to make up for his shortcomings as a QB and his lack of leadership…the Falcons can do better and will without him…

By Palmetto State Dawg

August 20, 2007 7:49 PM | Link to this

To all you morons that think this clown deserves a chance: It sure would’ve been nice if the dogs he had killed had been given a second chance. I’ve spent some time around pit bulls, and they get a bad rap. They’re actually very nice dogs if raised right. When you get a bunch of thugs like Vick and his “homeboys” raising dogs, that’s when they turn out mean. Vick should go to jail based on stupidity alone. The man is making millions & has unbelievable talent, but yet is willing to risk it all on dog fighting. What an idiot.

By Lucille Willoughby

August 20, 2007 7:49 PM | Link to this

Given Vick’s stunning lack of common sense up to the point of copping a plea, I doubt he’ll ever be able to reclaim the heights of his earlier career once he’s finished with his jail time (which is going to add up to more than the 12+ months the Feds give him, given the state charges). He’ll be lucky to coach high school football once it’s all over.

And for the jackholes who seem to think that being able to cavalierly butcher an animal is different from murdering/harming a human, bear in mind that virtually every serial killer started you’ve ever heard of started off torturing and killing animals before working their way up to humans. It’s a red flag of sociopathy. I suspect the people who shrug and say “it was just a dog” are also the same idiots who think the pervs who get popped on Dateline’s TO CATCH A PREDATOR when they show up for a “date” with a 13 year old they met on online with a 6 pack and condoms are being “set up”.

By tony316

August 20, 2007 7:50 PM | Link to this

Okay, kibbles and bits lovers put ur money where ur mouth is. buy the remaining tickets but i know you won’t and probably have never been because you are the same folks that would pass a human being homeless to rescue a dog or cat.

By Uhhuh

August 20, 2007 7:51 PM | Link to this

why do black Americans worship a man with the brains of a cockroach? If you feel someone is knocked off a pedestal, at least pick someone who is respected, EVERYONE KNEW BEFORE THIS INCIDENT VICK WAS DUMBER THAN A PUBLIC SCHOOL DROPOUT. I mean if you want to be outraged by a fall from grace, be outraged if Colin Powell or Condeleeza Rice or some respected person acts a fool….IS ANYONE SURPRISED VICK ACTED LIKE A MORON??? I MEAN COME ON !!!!

By joy

August 20, 2007 7:51 PM | Link to this

I believe that Vick can redeem himself; he is a human being and if he asks for forgiveness, it should be given. Who are we to judge? Let him serve his time and get on with his life. After all we as African Americans were expected to forgive the hangings, shootings, raping, drowning, and other torturous acts bestowed upon our ancestors..surely you can get past of all things DOGS!

By jshilly

August 20, 2007 7:53 PM | Link to this

To Sloan: You say this is the race card that is being pulled. I say that the naive card is being drawn on your behalf!!! You can’t seriously say that this isn’t a race-related issue. He has no priors!!! His co-defendants do. Why wouldn’t they accept a plea deal!!! And with that being said, what does that do for Vick? He has no leverage what so ever. It’s his word against theirs. The media and PETA, by the way who supposedly are for animal rights but are absent at the horse and greyhound track where people bet it all on, containing all the coverage to paint a portrait of pure evil by Mr. Vick, not condemning the other assailants. They make Michael Vick look like the anti-Christ. Meanwhile, cows, chickens, and pigs are being ruthlessly slaughtered by the masses everyday. Where is the media and PETA? Horses and greyhounds are becoming subject to the use of steriods and other performance-enhancing drugs! Where’s PETA? Where’s the media? Most likely if you look closely on ESPN, you’ll probably catch them in the lobby betting on their favorite horse, or greyhound. Indeed, if Vick did commit this crime his punishment shouldn’t be severe to the point of ruining his career. Let us not forget that not to long ago, Mr. Jamal Lewis helped assist a drug deal, which kills many people on a daily basis. He served his short term in the offseason and that was that. WE as people really need to evaluate our morals because right now, they’re all screwed up. So Sloan, before you through up the naive card, maybe you should analyze the situation a bit more.

By Mary

August 20, 2007 7:53 PM | Link to this

Has anyone else noticed that the majority of people on this blog who support Vick can’t spell much less write a proper sentence! It is almost as disturbing as Vick’s behavior.

By cas

August 20, 2007 7:55 PM | Link to this

I guess dog spelled backward is truly God..I guess Vick hurt God..The new era has begun. White Atlanta finally can move back to 1965 through 2001 before Vick arrived, those were the years that we were going to the Super Bowl and playoff every year.

By HONKY TONK

August 20, 2007 7:55 PM | Link to this

When keepin it real goes wrong…for all his money, he was still thug garbage

By Chuck

August 20, 2007 7:55 PM | Link to this

My biggest problem is that ESPN won’t shut up about this case. Gee! He doesn’t plead until NEXT Monday. Do we really need two hours and countless analysts to break down this story? No.

By Georgia still racist

August 20, 2007 7:55 PM | Link to this

I don’t think he can because these sick-racist-kissing-their-dogs-in-the mouth-white people want let him (Add that sell out Terrence Moore to this list).

It’s a shame…the President can steal an election, lie to invade a country, torture people, and spy on the citizens of this country just to name a few.

What do white people do? Nothing. Some even make excuses for him. Yet these same white people crucify the brothers every chance they get.

No wonder the rest of the world hates this country…founded by white people for white people.

I can’t wait for the 2010 census. That majority gets smaller every decade.

By Fireman

August 20, 2007 7:56 PM | Link to this

Treat Vick the same way Pete Rose has been treated. Let’s see you put a racial spin on that!

By Chris

August 20, 2007 7:57 PM | Link to this

Michael Vick does not have the strength of character, class or intelligence to redeem himself. Vick is all about No. 7 — as documented by an entire career filled with self promotion, throwing teammates under the bus in countless interviews, and an enending series of disgusting personal acts … and that was before the dogfighting. Apparently, no one has ever held Vick accountable for his actions, least of all No. 7 himself.

By Bob

August 20, 2007 7:58 PM | Link to this

Redemption for Vick?

Possibly, but right now it is time for punishment for such heinous actions.

Vick seriously needs treatment and some maturation to address his sociopathic behavior and sadistic character.

For his sake, I hope he accepts his punishment, takes responsibility for his brutal behavior, and begins to develop himself and his character into a better and more rational human being.

Getting back on the football field should be the least of his worries right now. If he does not get his life together and learn some basic moral principles, then this episode could be just the beginning of a downward spiral into oblivion.

Mike, sometimes a grown-up man has to tell so-called “friends” to take a hike and go to hell. Also, a grown-up man takes full responsibility for his own actions as opposed to always looking for some way to slide by past the basic rules of decency and behavior.

By Rusty

August 20, 2007 7:58 PM | Link to this

Vick continues to be honored with a building named in his honor at Virginia Tech, even though he couldn’t be bothered to go to class regularly, much less graduate from the school before jumping to the NFL.

Oh, yes, when he signed his contract with the NFL — he got a special insurance policy guaranteeing him X amount of millions in case he got injured.

He has, is and always will be, a thug from Hampton Roads who just happens to have phenomenal athletic ability, nothing more.

By AngryBlackMan

August 20, 2007 7:59 PM | Link to this

RAY LEWIS DID NOT PLEAD GUILTY…stop comparing the two.

By Steve

August 20, 2007 8:01 PM | Link to this

It doesn’t matter what we think. Michael has severely damaged the image of the NFL and the Atlanta Falcons.

Everyone is looking only at the dogfighting thing. But Michael was bankrolling an illegal gambling operation and he lied aboout it to Roger Goodell’s face as well as Arthur Blank’s. I have absolutely no doubt that Roger Goodell will ban Michael Vick from ever playing in the NFL agsin. Vick’s chance for redemption was when Goodell and Blank asked him if he was involved. Mike chose to lie to them both. Now he’s got to pay the piper. No, he doesn’t deserve a second chance. He forfeited that by lying!

By rich

August 20, 2007 8:02 PM | Link to this

Vick deserves everything coming to him, and then some.

I almost wish he would have fought the charges and ultimately gotten a lengthier prison term. I only hope the DA’s office in VA follows through with its charges. This isn’t over yet; not by a long shot.

Call me a hater, but I’m not the one who just tossed away millions in endorsements and a career in the NFL.

But hey, at least he still has a fan base that blindly supports and excuses his criminal acts on a message board. That’s something…I guess. Then again, I’d be embarrassed to have these supporters behind me. Aside from the fact that most can’t write a coherent sentence, their justifications for supporting him are either based on race or on a belief that killing dogs is OK.

By Vick get lost

August 20, 2007 8:03 PM | Link to this

So this low-life creature bred dogs which were loyal to him until their very end and people are asking what is wrong with that?? Give me a friggin’ break, how sick do you have to be when enjoy your own dogs dying a horrible death and you are enjoying every second??? PRETTY SICKO!!! I hope he rots in hell were he and his friends belong. He is a disgrace to the Falcons and Atlanta!! By the way which part of illegal is so hard to understand???

By Big_GRIP

August 20, 2007 8:04 PM | Link to this

Yes, he can be forgiven!

He’s human and a sinner just like everyone of us…

BUT PLEASE, LET’S NOT FORGET:

The animal cruelty charges are the LESSER of the charges against Vick.

The MAIN charges were the creation of an illegal gambling enterprise and crossing state lines to commit felonies.

If Vick was just fighting dogs in his backyard for fun (and killing a few now and again) the Feds wouldn’t even bother with the case.

Vick was acting like a little wanna-be gangster, and in the process he violated RICO laws just like a REAL gangster.

This ain’t just about killing some dogs.

By Michael

August 20, 2007 8:08 PM | Link to this

Here’s my take on this subject:

Contrary to popular belief, submitting a guilty plea is not the same thing as admitting guilt.

Normally there are 2 reasons why someone wants a plea deal:

1) They’re guilty as sin and want to minimize prison time, or

2) They can’t win their case and don’t want to drag it out, so they cut a deal in order to move on with their lives as quickly as possible.

As of right now, I believe Michael is in the 2nd category.

I also believe that today’s plea deal doesn’t mean very much. We won’t find out for sure what’s really going on until next Monday, August 27th. If Michael stands in court and admits to the charges filed against him, THEN…and ONLY THEN will the truth finally come out. And the judge will be more than justified to throw the book at him to the fullest extent of the law.

To be fair, I feel compelled to say this: to all of you folks who think that Michael is finally getting what’s coming to him, that type of attitude says more about you than it does about Michael. I can guarantee you that if you lived in a fishbowl, chances are pretty high that you’d “always seem to be in trouble” just like Michael. No one is perfect and we all make mistakes, but we don’t make them in public like Michael does.

At the very least, Michael is guilty of owning the property where these heinous acts took place and with surrounding himself with less than honorable people. But like I said, come next Monday we’ll find out the real deal and all of this conversation won’t mean anything.

By FootballFan

August 20, 2007 8:08 PM | Link to this

Wow, can Vick redeem himself. He absolutely can, Kobe(and he was once the spawn of the devil)is doing it and so can Mike. People who were not Vick supporters from the on-set will never be Vick supporters and will always be negative towards him. Everyone thinks they know what type of person it takes to engage in dog fighting. Vick hates dog, Vick is cruel and inhumane. Those statements are probably suprisingly not the case at all. I saw a program once with Vick and the interviewer asked him if he were not playing football, what would he want to do? His response was “I would want to be a vet, you can ask my girlfriend sitting in the audience… I love animals, I am always reading about them…” The fact of the matter is that Vick probably loved those dogs. He appreciates the strength and power of the dogs. He loves their stature and their will to push forward. Their bravery to fight to the death. The survival of the fittest..because only the strong will survive. Believe it or not those dogs raised for fighting are well taken care of. I knew a guy who fought dogs and he LOVED his dogs and they LOVED him. His dogs were also very protective of him, they would not let anyone get close to him. Fighting these dogs from their perspective is like how you would say when you were growing up my Daddy can beat up your Daddy. It is the I have the baddest dog.. no one can beat my dog syndrome. When their dog wins it is pride. When the dog loses it is shame. It is like a samurai warrior, to win is honor, to lose is shame… shame paid for by death. Certainly not everyone understands this. An individual that can engage in and enjoy such acts must be evil and inhumane. I don’t thing that Mike is inhumane or evil. He just shows his appreciate and love of the animal in a manner that some see as vile becuase they see the fight he sees the power, the bravery. These dogs are like gladiators..and that is all it is. I am not a dog lover or any animal for that matter. I absolutely detest them. So I suppose I am a cruel and inhumane person becuase I don’t have any love for a domesticated wolf. Survival is the nature of these animals who mame and kill children, innocent passer-byers and sometimes their owners. Mike you will be alright…it does not matter what others think. The Lord is the ruler of our destiny not man, whatever he has for you will be for you. The forgiveness of God is most important though many on this blog have condemned you to hell, there is no heaven or hell that man can put you in only God. He alone knows your heart…….

By Freddy K.

August 20, 2007 8:10 PM | Link to this

Handler? Is that like a trainer?

By DHD

August 20, 2007 8:13 PM | Link to this

I hope he can get forgiveness as well as those who would stick a needle in a baby’s head and suck out it’s brain.

But…I care more about the name on the front of the jersey than I do the name on the back. Vick is gone and it’s time for the Falcons to move on.

By Bob

August 20, 2007 8:13 PM | Link to this

With regard to Vick’s football career and the effect on ticket purchases, some fans will stop buying tickets if Vick ever plays again, while other fans will stop buying tickets if Vick is not allowed to play again.

However, individual ticket holders do not matter. Just look at the real estate allocation of seats in an NFL stadium. The high-value money comes from corporate suites and luxury boxes.

Some of the corporate suites and luxury boxes are owned by hardcore fans, but often such high-end booths are used to entertain clients and business associates who are likely more casual fans than hardcore, rabid followers of an NFL team.

Those Fortune 500 companies with luxury suites will find that casual fans are not going to want to watch Vick and come into work on Monday morning to let collegaues at the water cooler know that they cheered for Vick over the weekend.

The result will be that Vick’s value to any franchise is diminished severely, and especially so to the high-deollar customers of Fortune 500 companies that purchase luxury suites to entertain clients.

By Matt Jones

August 20, 2007 8:15 PM | Link to this

Yes Vick can certainly redeem himself just like anybody else who has committed a criminal, immoral or unethical act. The Word is repentance. How hypocritical can folks be? Most people have a decision or committed acts that were wrong and most of them seek redemption and forgiveness. There is one thing about repentence is that forgiveness follows from the One where it truly matters.

By Clarence Darrow

August 20, 2007 8:17 PM | Link to this

Vicks attorney, Billy Martin, who is accustomed to winning these high-profile cases, conducted his own investigation. When he looked at the facts, the homies that threw Vick under the bus and other forensic evidence, he wasn’t about to spoiled his reputation by getting hammered on this case. So, he had prayer meeting with Vick and his momma and said,”Son, you done crapped in your mess kit. Cop the plea. Do the time. Hope that while you’re in jail, somebody will come up with a cure for stupid.”

By Matthew 6:26

August 20, 2007 8:17 PM | Link to this

26Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they?

This verse talks about how man shouldn’t worry. But I want to focus on the last question in the verse. Are you not much more valuable than they? The you in the verse talks about man and the they talks about the birds(or animals). Don’t get me wrong dogfighting is dispicable. But it scares me more that Lori cares more about the poor dogs than she cares about Mike rotting in hell.

By GainesvilleRedElephant

August 20, 2007 8:18 PM | Link to this

So much for his crew that would do anything for him. I hope he now realizes that his crew only knew one thing and that was his money. Now that he will have no money for the next year, lets see how many of his “homies” visit him in jail. As any young man realizes growing up, especially me, friends will only go so far for you. Family they are not, I don’t care how close and how long you’ve known them.

By Erin

August 20, 2007 8:18 PM | Link to this

Swatlanta,

If you actually read my post, I was not comparing dog fighting to any of those things you stated. I don’t agree with hunting, or horse racing, or dog racing. And you need to look up the meaning of self-righteous before you use it.

Of course everyone would love to see the Humane Society provide food and shelter for all the abandoned animals instead of putting them to sleep, but are you going to pay for it? I didn’t think so. there is not enough financial suport for them to do what you are suggesting. I am not being “self-rigtheous” I am being realistic. Hence the word, HUMANE.

And there is a difference between animals that are born and bred on farms whose sole purpose is to feed and dogs. Killing domesticated animals that are bred to be companions is completely different. I am not arguing one life is more important than another, but there is a big difference between domesticated animals meant to be kept as pets than animals procreated in a barn or field.

By Norm

August 20, 2007 8:21 PM | Link to this

$130 million cannot overcome stupidity. I’m boycotting the season and will be spending Sunday afternoons at the gym. My son and grandson are in the AJC picture of Vick flipping off the crowd. That was already enough for me to quit on the Falcons. Obviously the Falcons should have kept Schaub and dumped Vick.

By den

August 20, 2007 8:21 PM | Link to this

He and two buddies hanged eight dogs from trees in his backyard. After writhing and screaming, five eventually choked to death while Vick watched. Three didn’t die. They took the three dogs and, one by one, forced their heads under water in a five gallon bucket until they drowned. All for fun and profit. This is a sick, perverse, evil individual who deserves the maximum penalty. Let’s make a difference. Write a letter to NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell at the NFL NYC office calling for a lifetime ban from the NFL. Write a letter to Hon. Henry E. Hudson, United States District Court, Eastern Virginia, calling for the maximum penalty. This issue cuts to the core of our humanity. Working together, we can help ensure that Vick is stripped of those things meaningful in his life — his freedom and football career. He deserves nothing less.

By Steve

August 20, 2007 8:22 PM | Link to this

You folks just don’t seem to get it. It’s not about the dogs or how bad you may or may not think dogfighting is.

It’s about the image of the NFL. There is no way that the NFL will tolerate the negative publicity that would come if Vick is EVER allowed back on the field. Just imagine all the PETA protesters at every game. The only way for Goodell to repair the damage is to take decisive action. Mike will be banned for life.

By Goodoledawg

August 20, 2007 8:25 PM | Link to this

NO WAY will Vick EVER play for The Falcons again. Period. And I doubt anyone else will take him either.

By Sue

August 20, 2007 8:25 PM | Link to this

How did race become involved in this issue? Black/white/green/purple, he is a human who abused and killed dogs. Has nothing to do with what color he is.

By tony316

August 20, 2007 8:26 PM | Link to this

cas, r u totally stupid are what? dogs are not GOD.. now I have heard everything.

By Country Boy

August 20, 2007 8:26 PM | Link to this

It’s not “The Man” that keeps part of the black race down. It’s the morons that excuse and justify any action by a black person, and blame the downfall of someone like Vick on “The Man”. All my black friends are just as horrified at the behavior of Vick and his cohorts as I am.

By GaLiberal

August 20, 2007 8:31 PM | Link to this

I’m not going to dignify all the overtly racist comments about Vick being a thug or another O.J. Simpson. Such inflammatory rhetoric only proves how shallowness and bigotry of those people. As to Vick, his arrogance got the best of him. He believed with all his money, fame, and talent that his friends wouldn’t roll over on him. He outright lied and said he wasn’t involved and this was just people trashing him. He misjudged how much anyone is willing to do to save their own skin. Now that he’s copped a plea, there is only one action that’s left - lifetime ban from the NFL. Blank and the Falcons should recover the $22 million Vick has remaining on his contract, but I doubt if Vick has that kind of money left after buying is family houses and cars, taking care of their legal problems, and now his legal bills. Vick is just another sorry example of how money and talent doesn’t make up for a complete lack of character.

By Dr. I. Q.

August 20, 2007 8:33 PM | Link to this

So many illogical statments that cry out for comment; but logical rebuttal is impossible. It’s like talking to a tree.

By Ha?

August 20, 2007 8:36 PM | Link to this

Bottom line - he lied. Come clean and redemption is possible.

By L Carl

August 20, 2007 8:40 PM | Link to this

Vick is nothing but a thug who hit it rich. He is still a thug now.

By Dewitt Rehberg

August 20, 2007 8:42 PM | Link to this

Let’s just let him go. Don’t mention him anymore. He and his type will fade away. As for the Falcons, they should have been named “Snakebit.” How long can they keep up this pitiful excuse for a NFL football team? Lady Luck doesn’t seem to be on their team not common sense either. The clouds were already gathering when they let a great Q. B. become a Texan!

By Ruthie

August 20, 2007 8:42 PM | Link to this

All living beings are judged by the way they treat the lives of others. Cruelty, torture, death without dignity are the hallmarks of inhumanity. As farmers, we always fed, watered, sheltered, and bedded our animals first thing in the morning and last thing at night. When they died to support our lives, they were killed quickly, without fear, and with dignity. We honored our animals and could not have lived without them. Perhaps Mr. Vick should reassess his life priorities and pursue the humane treatment of pit bulls and other animals who are treated as offal. There are other ways to make a worthwhile mark in this world than playing football.

By Tom M.

August 20, 2007 8:42 PM | Link to this

NO!!! The one thing everyone is missing who thinks he can redeem himself as a football player is that professional football is all about IMAGE!!! MV will never, ever be able to change the IMAGE now in the heads and hearts of most fans; and I don’t believe there is a team in the NFL who would be willing to risk their team image in order to avail themselves of his talent.

I wish MV the very best. I hope he finds a way to move on with his life once he is out of prison…it just won’t be in professional football or any other public venue.

By Tom LeBout

August 20, 2007 8:46 PM | Link to this

Can the bum, FOREVER!

By rlynn

August 20, 2007 8:48 PM | Link to this

It isn’t against the law to hunt, fish, or eat hamburgers but dog fighting is against the law. Do you understand now or is that racially motivated motivated attack on black america? Vick is now in more trouble because like Slick he lied and the lies are what will cost him. This man is not a disgrace to Blacks, Whites, Hispanics, or anyone else but himself. Why would you want to identify yourself with this cretin?

By 1 John 1:9

August 20, 2007 8:49 PM | Link to this

9If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. To everybody that feels like he doesn’t deserve another chance you’re not stupid you’re not even an idiot you’re just spiritually immature.

By bravesfansince1966

August 20, 2007 8:53 PM | Link to this

TOLD YOU SO!!! TOLD YOU SO!!! TOLD YOU SO!!! I was labeled a racisit by many idiots on this site over the past three years. My comments about Vick being a thug were often dismissed and criticized. I said then, and I say now, this has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE COLOR OF HIS SKIN. It has everything to do with his flawed morals. I am thrilled that once again I can root for the Falcons. All you VICK lovers can give up your seats, there are still some people in Georgia tha think character means something! TOLD YOU SO!!!

By eric sean

August 20, 2007 8:54 PM | Link to this

Young Black Men

Leave Ray Ray & Pookie in the hood when you make that Big Contract. You cannot take care of all your cousins and homies. When are we going to learn that is ok too limit who we hang with or owe favors. The MAN is always watching your move and steps. The only thing you owe anything to is God. Your cousins & friends go down you go down. Now, where is the honor?

Eric Sean

By Artie

August 20, 2007 8:57 PM | Link to this

All of the posters on here preaching that it’s all a conspiracy created by the WHITE MAN need to step into reality. Man, it must suck to be stuck with such a paranoid outlook on life!!!!

By Artie

August 20, 2007 8:58 PM | Link to this

All of the posters on here preaching that it’s all a conspiracy created by the WHITE MAN need to step into reality. Man, it must suck to be stuck with such a paranoid outlook on life!!!! Quit thinking that everyone (especially the WHITE MAN) is out to get you (i.e., the BLACK MAN).

By FalconsFan

August 20, 2007 9:00 PM | Link to this

I’ll give him a 2nd chance, but if I get mayo on my hamburger or I get the wrong size fries, he can rot!!!

By chris

August 20, 2007 9:00 PM | Link to this

HERE WE GO STEELERS, HERE WE GO!!

By gator in athens

August 20, 2007 9:02 PM | Link to this

do you really think mike vick actually killed those dogs? come on he’s rich, he has some bum doing that for him. the other guys with the criminal pasts don’t have the team of lawyers that vick has, so in this case they felt as if it was all men for themselves! if everyone was tight-lipped from the start, the feds wouldn’t have known! the deal he got for the copout was better than it would’ve been if he was found guilty. that means he will be out on the streets in less than a year! I STILL SUPPORT VICK!!

By Grace

August 20, 2007 9:03 PM | Link to this

Grow up. If you think this is a race issue you’re seriously lost and aren’t capable of independent thought. Look, are you going to call every black man or woman who disagrees with you an Uncle Tom / Aunt Thomasina?

A sociopath slaughters viable and decent animals. He had so many other choices. Had he been a man instead of a cowardly, sniveling baby and told Arthur Blank and the NFL the truth, had he not brutally and violently killed those poor dogs, had he not been involved in such a senseless activity (no, it’s not a sport by any stretch of the imagination), then this wouldn’t have been such a big deal.

He created his own destiny, even if out of ignorance.

Your normal knee-jerk reaction doesn’t cut it anymore. You live here, you live by the law. Don’t like it? Work to change it. The white man didn’t make him take any of the decisions he made when he went his merry way down the road of depravity. Isn’t he a grown person?

Do you think animal lovers are only white?

Do you think there are only 2 races in North America? This is why other countries look at us with bemusement and disdain. Plenty of people of all races admired the athlete; plenty of people of all races despise his behavior.

So if you think he’s such a great man, then let him take his punishment like a man - not a self-important, excuse-making, juvenile.

Forget about the law for a minute. Do you need the law to tell you what’s right and wrong? It makes me shudder when I think of all the destructive messages you’re sending to your children about their own choices.

By Vick Fan

August 20, 2007 9:06 PM | Link to this

Even if he was innocent, the media had crucified him before he was proven guilty so I think Mike and all the rest of the guys were force to admit guilt or else they were going 2 crucify them to the fullest. He had no other choice but to change his not guilty plea to a guilty plea because a black man trying to go up against the “system”. He would have had hell too pay. The system couldn’t stand that “the man” was making that kind of money. The main purpose is too destroy “the man” livelihood.

By Be Real!

August 20, 2007 9:07 PM | Link to this

What if God replayed all the ugly you did on national TV…You know the things that nobody found out about and that you actually prayed that nobody would find out about? You aren’t “All together rightoeus,” yourselves. Look at the man in the mirror… Stop saying such ugly things about people…The same measure of judgement that you judge others, will be the same measure that you will be judged!

What vick has done is awful! However, this man Vick, or anyone else can redeem themselves with the help of God’s grace and good moral people!

By BigDaddy

August 20, 2007 9:09 PM | Link to this

For those saying Vick made a “mistake”…

A mistake is putting on mismatching socks while you get ready in the dark.

A mistake is going to eat at the Flying Biscuit.

A mistake is letting one rip in a meeting.

A mistake is NOT creating, financing and participating in an ongoing criminal enterprise for over 6 years.

Please get a grip.

By RWH

August 20, 2007 9:10 PM | Link to this

To day and before, I am sure thousands of people had their doubts about Mr. Michael Vicks. I know this type of thing hurts many and it has indeed dent the very outter-layer of what has protected it for a very long time! Mr. Vicks lied on occasions when he should have came cleaned. Even his Lawyers might back away from this situation because of Mr. Vicks’ lies. Can he redeem himself; who will take him as another player and why should they hire a lier knowing that the face they have seen has been a cheap shot in the face with a smile that has mislead so many people. Relatives and friends are mostly like to turn you in when the chips are down and Mr. Vicks knew that but instead he elected to partake in a serious situation that has cause him a lot of problems. This problem takes many people down a road that merely can see light after the biggest and bold everlasting print that soon is never forgotten…it shall be the talk of the city by those who are now saying, I told you so! Sorry Mr. Blank that the cover of a book tells the story of the content, especially in this case. Yes, Mr. Blank, I was or I am involved in the Dog Fighting with the people I know and grew up with, or I knew it was taking place and went back to stop it on my property. I even took the liberty of destroying teh sheds and filing a constraint to keep my relative and friend away from my property until I can arrange to sale it. That was all Mr. Vicks had to say. Had he taken the proper steps. But we all know now that he did not! Sorry, Alatana Falcons Fans!

By VICK SUPPOTER

August 20, 2007 9:11 PM | Link to this

Ray Lewis was accused of murder, Kobe Bryant was accused of rape of a white woman. They have been redeemed and what have they really done to desrve redemption? Mike should be punished but he should be able to redeem himself also. I am a season ticket holder and the main reason I got them was because of #7. You can say what you want but Mike is the Falcons. They lost with him and could not win without him. Now that he is gone this Joey Harrington will show everyone how much Mike will be missed. The fan base is mostly black and I for one don’t want to see this team without #7. THE WHITE PEOPLE ARE HAPPY NOW.They hated to see a black quarterback in this town. Where is DOUG JOHNSON? SOME DAMN DOGS

By Vick Supporter

August 20, 2007 9:11 PM | Link to this

Wow! it feels like a party on this blog. The whites are celebrating. I can clearly see how your ancestors did those horrible things to black people. Listen to these blog postings. Just filled with hate. And you call blacks 2nd class citizens…..

By Cjohnson

August 20, 2007 9:13 PM | Link to this

Yes. NO human should be given jail time over animals. Dogs have no soul, no spirit. I will support Vick during and after his punishment. I do not consider dogfighting a crime more than deer hunting. The only difference is that White people like shooting deers. -I’m mainly discussed with the snitchin’. love from Iraq. Keep ya head up! You’re still rich.

By BigDaddy

August 20, 2007 9:13 PM | Link to this

Why, Mike, Why?

a haiku

Why did you plead, Mike? That is NOT keepin’ it real… Thug life 4eva!

By Brownthrasher

August 20, 2007 9:14 PM | Link to this

Thank you Joe Horn for your comments on ESPN. You have proven yourself a class act.

By Mike T.

August 20, 2007 9:15 PM | Link to this

Yeah Vick can redeem himself,pay his debt to society, get out, find himself a good job and go to work. Pro football again, I doubt it.

By Youcan'thandlethetruth

August 20, 2007 9:15 PM | Link to this

That’s brilliant, Football Fan. It’s okay that you beat the hell out of your wife because you really love her a lot.

By Michelle

August 20, 2007 9:16 PM | Link to this

Everyone that thought he wasn’t quilty raise your hand. He did what everyone will do and that is lie. I love my dog more than most humans, and I think how they killed those dogs was brutal. I just think we care for the sensationalism of the media. Some how it’s more important than all the babies and children that are killed each day.. It’s as if the government doesn’t find one way to get him they want to try another. I agree he should do some time, but murders don’t always get that much for taking a human life.This country seems to have what lives that are more important mixed up. How about giving him less time and the rights of humans more time.

By Den

August 20, 2007 9:19 PM | Link to this

To FootballFan:

1) What a rambling pile of nonsense your post was….I wish I could get those two minutes of my life back.

2) Watch and learn. Vick ranks a close second only to perhaps O.J. as the most hated man in America. And he may, in fact, surpass O.J. before all is done. Like O.J. Vick is pure evil.

By EA

August 20, 2007 9:19 PM | Link to this

Mike has the best attorneys money can buy. Despite that, he pleaded guilty. Why are some of you still defending him? The law is the law. Enough said.

By Freddy K.

August 20, 2007 9:20 PM | Link to this

Vick’s biggest crime is just being a dumbass and following instead of leading. But if you ain’t the lead dog then view don’t change. Ask M.V. in a year or two.

By Chet Baker

August 20, 2007 9:22 PM | Link to this

For everyone saying Mike Vick didn’t kill a human, remember this: those dogs that he strung up, killed were lucky. The ones he forced to fight had a miserable existence. The difference is: the dogs didn’t have a choice. That satisfaction and lack of remorse is found in the worst of all humans.

By Wendell

August 20, 2007 9:23 PM | Link to this

You people are pathetic, the hate & vicious writing and tone that is being written is pitiful i.e. Brenda,Bob,Chase etc. I’d like to ask all these women is this blog, if they believe in abortion. Because if you do, you approve murder and also you place a dog’s life over that of a human being. So mull that over while you continue to blast this man. YES HE DESERVES ANOTHER CHANCE!!!

By rick

August 20, 2007 9:26 PM | Link to this

To those of you who say, “It’s just about dogs,” isn’t it ironic that the very dogs he tortured and cruelly slaughtered would never have turned on him like his so-called human “friends” did? Take the time to look into a dog’s eyes sometime, you’ll see a far more pure soul than Vick and his “friends” have demonstrated thus far in life.

To those of you who say “It’s about race,” the dogs didn’t care about his race, nor did the millions of whites who rooted for him, bought his jerseys and shoes, paid his salary, and admired his athletic abillity.

I believe he is in need of truly good friends of high moral character who can help steer him in the right direction. Doesn’t matter what color they are.

Whether or not he can redeem himself, well, I know I’d never be a fan of his, no matter what he does. I think all professional athletes are grossly overpaid for what they do. I think Vick proves it.

By BigDaddy

August 20, 2007 9:27 PM | Link to this

Who is more hated? Ookie or Ron Mexico? Ookie takes the lead…

By BigDaddy

August 20, 2007 9:29 PM | Link to this

The Mindset of a Vick Backers

A haiku

Vick apologists: “Come on! They are just dumb dogs!” Felonies are fun!

By Swatlanta

August 20, 2007 9:30 PM | Link to this

Erin, I completely understood your post. I was just giving other examples of cruelty to animals that gets swept under the rug or ignored (they also happen to be “sports” that the elite white populace participate in). If you were raised in the country and had a pet chicken (like my father) you would have had the same emotional attachment to that chicken that some have for their dogs (they were poor and his pet chicken became a casualty and he cried). I love meat more than most omnivores, but IMO their is no difference in the life of a dog or the life of a chicken or a cow. It is not really about Vick to me (I never ever thought that he was a good QB). It is all about hypocrisy and misplaced priorities. I think Vick should be punished, but not as severely as some people feel.

By BigDaddy

August 20, 2007 9:31 PM | Link to this

The Mindset of a Vick Backer, Part II

Morality is A white man’s construct. Just keepin’ it real.

By BradATL

August 20, 2007 9:32 PM | Link to this

Mike made a serious mistake and obviously had a blind spot about how cruel (and illegal) dogfighting is. That said, he isn’t a monster and I believe he deserves a second chance after he pays his debt to society.

By To JP

August 20, 2007 9:32 PM | Link to this

I am with you on that JP, Vick p** somebody off. There must have been a plant from the very beginning because how do you have such detail of dates, times and dollars from 4, 5, 6 years back unless someone was on the mole downlown to begin. Oh well. I tell you in a few more days when some crazy goes off again a kills a multitude of people we will be onto that news sensation because we have bored of the war where over 3000 of our U.S citizens/troops have been killed in an illegal; lied to promote the war that has never been Congressionally declared. Dont try to check my grammar because I am educated… just as long as you get the point.

By John C. Fremont

August 20, 2007 9:33 PM | Link to this

Only in the appeasement-burg of Atlanta is this kind of arguement presented. The negro guilt industry is headquartered right here.

I think the Falcons should move out the the city, and quit embarrassing the state of Georgia.

By BigDaddy

August 20, 2007 9:35 PM | Link to this

Funny Chappelle did “When Keepin’ it Real Goes Wrong.” Ron Mexico stars…

By reckme

August 20, 2007 9:36 PM | Link to this

This is not a “black” issue. Its a 130 million dollar issue. The NFL and The Falcons pay him 130 million dollars to perform on the field and to be a role model in society. If they were paying him $30,000 a year, then it would be a different story. Stop making this a white and black issue. For g-ds sake, this race issue is never going away.

By BigDaddy

August 20, 2007 9:38 PM | Link to this

Note of caution to the Vick Apologists

a haiku

Love Ron Mexico

At your own peril. His love

Is real contagious…

By faninbuford

August 20, 2007 9:39 PM | Link to this

Tell flat out lies to the NFL commissioner will be a tough one for Vick to get around. For the life of me, I can’t figure out how he could do something so dumb. He was an NFL quarterback! How many little kids dream of being that someday? To throw your career away fighting and gambling over dogs…are you kidding me? It’s really just too sad. Can he redeem himself-not enough for me to want to see him play football again.

By Harold

August 20, 2007 9:40 PM | Link to this

This has got to be the most negative newspaper in America. Even New York prints positive stories. Print something positive for once. Secondly, don’t believe everything you read from these fools. Just ask Sekou Smith about jumping the gun on his BS story on the Hawks and Josh Smith contract. You were so focused on getting something negative out, you forgot to get your facts straight and had to recant your story. What a joke. Way to represent Atlanta.

By Its not about race

August 20, 2007 9:43 PM | Link to this

Forrest Gump had some interesting comments and I think if a real person, he would enjoy meeting Michael Vick as he is a walking example of a good line from the movie - “Momma said stupid is as stupid does and that’s all I got to say about that” Please stop with the race card, come on, it is just ridiculous. What MV did was wrong, he tried to get away with it, lied to his family , friends, fans, team - for what? What in the h* was he doing ? I mean come on dude, get a life. You were given the opportunity of a lifetime and maybe your momma gave you other advise you didn’t heed - You are the company you keep. Black , white, yellow, green with purple dots, you are responsible for your own behaviour. A true example of a hero is not the Michael Vicks of this world who flip off their fans (and I am not a big football fan but when I heard that , I thought to myself, what an IDIOT!)

If you are looking for a hero - why don’t you go to the airport to see soldiers come home , you will see a true American role model. Please do not use the above comment to start up about Bush, politics, the war, Woody Allen, people who kill college kids, hit their dog, drink and drive, drink soy milk instead of lowfat or whatever else you want to use to make a comparison of Mr. Vicks behaviour. He is wrong, he admitted it AFTER I am sure he felt he had no choice but to tell the truth. He should be ashamed of himself and look within, I think if he spent time doing that and moved beyond the arrogance, he would probably find someone he didn’t like too much. In cosing, I will use another great comment from one of my closest friends who is African American - and please don’t take that phrasing out of context either - “God doesn’t like ugly”….that is a great statement as Mr. Vick, you are downright UGLY!

By Bum

August 20, 2007 9:43 PM | Link to this

The Falcons knew! Arthur Blank knew! They all knew! And now they throw Vick under the bus and pretend they’re shocked — SHOCKED! — by the news from Richmond, Virginia.

By todd

August 20, 2007 9:43 PM | Link to this

Good job at raising those boys Brenda. The vicious cycle never ends.

By BigDaddy

August 20, 2007 9:43 PM | Link to this

“Why the Falcons Won’t Miss Ookie”

Vick threw a rock at

A dog he wanted to kill.

The dog was unhurt…

By Jul

August 20, 2007 9:44 PM | Link to this

Remember this is a man who plead guilty to a CRIME. Destroyed animals lives that require human support. He didnt just kill them, but also kept the ones who were mean and have what chance do they have now. ALL YOU SUPPORTERS GO ADOPT A MICHEAL VICK DOG. Are you afraid of what would happen, they might eat you. Eventually people will forget just like the rest of the athletes that are criminals too. ITS JUST SAD BLACK OR WHITE.

By BigDaddy

August 20, 2007 9:45 PM | Link to this

The water bottle

In Miami did not hold pot.

It was just Valtrex…

By DK

August 20, 2007 9:52 PM | Link to this

I think it’s sad that this otherwise fine young man made a mistake, but Mike did something wrong and he’ll pay a serious price. Fine men like Frank Beemer and Dan Reeves talk about him like a son and vouch for his character. Mike was quick to open his wallet for firefighter families, the families of slain alumni, and many other worthy causes. How much did those of you that are calling him names give when these tragedies occurred? I seriously doubt that any one of you who are posting nasty comments and wishing the worst for him, know him. I think you people who are acting like he is the devil are a bunch of hypocritical, sanctimonious @ssholes who think that you are worthy of casting the first stone. I hope all of you suffer the same fate that which you wish for Mike.

BTW, I’m white. It makes me sick when I hear members of my same race calling him a “thug”. Is that the name that you guy decided to call him at the last Klan meeting? Not every white person hates Mike. I’m not supporting Mike because he’s a great player. I’m supporting Mike because I think he’s a fine young man who made a mistake.

Lastly, “Can Michael Vick redeem himself?’ Redeem himself to who? He owes me and all of the other posters here nothing. I’m sure he’ll redeem himself to those whom he does owe.

By BobbyThompson

August 20, 2007 9:52 PM | Link to this

What I have to say about Mr. Vick is quite simple: The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother’s keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

By Attention Attention

August 20, 2007 9:53 PM | Link to this

By Artie

August 20, 2007 7:09 PM | Link to this

All of the posters crying racial bias just need to get over it!!!!! Vick is a GHETTO THUG…always was and always will be…period!!!! He’s living proof that $$$ can’t buy you class!!!!

No Artie: Paris Hilton (born in to money) and Britney Spears (no-talent made money) are the true examples of “money not being able to buy you class”

By Jamie Harding

August 20, 2007 9:56 PM | Link to this

Stick a fork in him, because he is DONE.

Vick had EVERY advantge given to him, and he BLEW IT. I have no sympathy for a multi-millionaire JERK who tortures animals.

You people who support him need to think LONG and HARD about this: study after study proves that people who abuse animals also have no respect for HUMAN life, either. He could not give a cheap DAMN about you, in spite of your so-called “support.”

Shame on him. I hope he ROTS in jail.

By scott

August 20, 2007 9:58 PM | Link to this

Bobby Cox Danny Heatley Patrick Kearney Brett Farve All current or former Atlanta sports professionals that received a second chance without one day in jail or the daily hoopla. Wife Beater Killer - of a human being Housed a rapist Recovering drug addict

Where we all of you that are so “alarmed” by what Vick did. You are right, wrong is wrong, my question is where is the equitible punishment and public outcry.

By DinotheFalcon

August 20, 2007 9:58 PM | Link to this

I’m hoping Michael only gets about 6 months in the pen, so he can get back as the Falcon’s QB next season! We need him badly back there. Joey Harrington—are you serious? Some slow white guy with a weak arm isn’t going to cut it in this league. Michael Vick has a great arm and can make the plays. Is there a chance he might be back late in this season to get a few wins in December and January? Those judges need to go easy on him. It was just his posse that got him into trouble. He went along for the ride. Come on back to the Falcons baby!!!

By Bob

August 20, 2007 10:00 PM | Link to this

Redepmtion?

It depends on what redemption means?

Can Mike Vick return to being a private citizen after serving time for a plea bargain on a felony?

Yes, although Vick needs to grow up as a man and also has to develop character to overcome his barbarous previous behavior.

Will Vick ever again have an opportunity as a celebrity endorser of mainstream, Fortune 500 products and services?

Not a snowball’s chance in hell.

Will he ever play in the NFL again?

Doubtful. Why? Follow the money.

Fortune 500 companies cannot use skyboxes for entertaining clients with Vick playing on the field. After a hypothetical future NFL game in which Vick returns to the field, any businessmen who admits to cheering for Vick would likely face ridicule and derision in the office over the next week.

In general, NFL teams cannot survive fielding a product on the gridiron that will significantly offend Fortune 500 companies and impact the value of skyboxes to businessmen who transact business deals and smooze clients during NFL games.

By Skip Bryant

August 20, 2007 10:01 PM | Link to this

Michael Vick is exceptional and rich… and you’re not. Get over it. He’ll be back. Unfortunately for us it will be with a team that can catch the ball and put up fantastic defense Sunday after Sunday. Whoever they are you can bet they will beat the tar out of the Atlanta Falcons. Winning IS everything. Dogs fight. People gamble. Get a life.

By R.L.

August 20, 2007 10:02 PM | Link to this

Does it matter? He’s a typical National Felon League thug. Why people listen to or expect anything of substance from paid athletes beyond their entertainment value, remains a mystery to me.

By Ashamed

August 20, 2007 10:02 PM | Link to this

As an Black male, who is also a Falcon’s season ticket holder for many years, even years before the GA Dome was built and Michael Vick was signed as a QB, I must say that I am ashamed of the racist rantings by so many on this blog.

Get a grip folks. Football is a TEAM sport and there are more African-American players on the Atlanta team other than Michael Vick. However, from reading these blogs, you’d think that he was the only one on the team. Sure MV is gone, and I do hope that he can be redeemed and come back from all that he has brought on himself, whether playing football or just in life. And, the GA Dome will be filled this year if the TEAM wins games.

By Vick Supporter

August 20, 2007 10:03 PM | Link to this

These white people are brave behind their computer screens. They’ll never say anything to someone’s face. They know what’s up….

By DUKE

August 21, 2007 9:26 AM | Link to this

ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS………… NAH NAH NAH BOO BOO…..

NAH NAH NAH BOO BOO……POOR LITTLE OLD VICK….I HOPE THE DOGS P** ALL OVER HIS JERSEYS………WHAT DO YA’LL THINK OF YA BOY NOW………

By Katie

August 21, 2007 9:33 AM | Link to this

MV will never play with the NFL again, nor does he deserve to. He will go to jail and do his ‘well deserved’ time and go on with his life. Dog fighting is illegal in this country and he knew it. Sure, he can redeem himself, everyone deserves a second chance. This is not a race issue. I don’t care if he’s white, black, brown, yellow or purple—he commited a crime and has to pay the price. Get over it.

By kathy

August 21, 2007 9:34 AM | Link to this

Torturing animals is the sign of personality disorder at best and sociopathy at worse. It will takes years of intensive counseling to begin to deal with this type of mental illness. He best focus on his recovery as a human being and not on football.

By Ms. Michelle

August 21, 2007 9:42 AM | Link to this

If you’re living in a glass house…don’t throw no stones! We all have done some stuupid things in our lives that we regret doing. Don’t be so quick to judge the future of Vick..no one knows what the outcome will be. God can turn this whole situation around; i’m sure if the Falcons let him go, another team will pick Vick he will continue to be successful, and will lead his life & tell other future football players not to follow down the same path as he did, and be a leader not a follower so stop trying to “predict” his future! GOD BLESS MIKE VICK & HIS FAMILY, YOU ALL ARE IN MY PRAYERS

By georgia

August 21, 2007 9:44 AM | Link to this

I think after serving one year for every dog that died he could start working with people that train dogs for the blind, for rescue ect.. and see for himself the dogs and how much they have to give. Then maybe he will truly understand what he did and start paying his debt in his heart.

By Joe

August 21, 2007 9:50 AM | Link to this

The AJC ran the article about the $50 dollar seatbelt ticket to further illustrate how stupid Michael Vick is. He KNOWS that wearing one is the law but even while he is getting ready to go to jail he still thumbs his nose at the law. As for him coming out of jail a better person, good luck. He’ll be surrounded by more low life thugs who have even less moral character than he does.

By Vick Supporter Also

August 21, 2007 9:50 AM | Link to this

It was dog fighting. Nothing more. He is not the only person that goes to dog fights. I am sure some of his team mates was there with him. We all make mistakes. Big or small. It is not up to us to judge him nor anyone else. Yes he can redeem himself and come back positive and better. We all have gone down the wrong path. We aren’t perfect. I think some of you people would rather support someone that will rape and do bad things to people.

By georgia

August 21, 2007 9:51 AM | Link to this

To Think about it. Yes there is a different “justice” for blacks, just ask OJ amd Michael Jackson. Two guilty and got off scott free. THIS IS NOT A WHITE OR BLACK THING quit being an idiot

By claudia

August 21, 2007 9:53 AM | Link to this

Yes, he should be forgiven. I now suppose PETA will go after the cattle, chicken, Hog,etc.etc., since GOD says you shouldn’t shed the blood of any of his creatures.

By Dan

August 21, 2007 9:56 AM | Link to this

schultzes column today was right on the money. The irony is that Vick has reveived all of the priviledge and more that many blacks perceive whites to receive, of course that is perception not reality for 99% of us. While there are surely racist viewpoints driving many of the comments on both sides. There are certainly many reasons to blast vick from his poor play to his lying to the current charges and indeed for his color if you are so inclined. But there is only one reasonable way someone could support him at this point and that would be because of his color. He is simply a bad guy and no it wasn’t his “posse” in case any one forgot the posse does what the guy with the cash says, not the other way around

By charlie

August 21, 2007 10:01 AM | Link to this

Vick is guilty because he’s black. Those dogs deserved what they got. If they don’t fight good then they ain’t no good.

By keep it real

August 21, 2007 10:01 AM | Link to this

Racism still lives. Know matter how much you white people try to deny it or say it has nothing to do with the color of his skin, YOU ARE ALL LIARS. You know it does. All this BS wouldn’t have happened if it was a white man. Hell yall started dog fighting and I am pretty sure some of yall was there with him betting on a dog. I am pretty sure it was a white man that was the head man. It just happened to be a black man that got caught and has to take the fall. People have done worst mess than this and they are still playing professional sports. But child molesters and rapist and murders can be give a second chance for doing this to PEOPLE. But dogs. I just don’t understand. By the way WHITE PEOPLE can be thugs too. Yall are the #1 buyer of hip hop music.

By DeKalb Voter

August 21, 2007 10:06 AM | Link to this

I am amazed at the differece in how two different races view crime. Thans for explaining to me how in some areas blacks make up less than twenty per cent of the population yet make up for over sixty per cent of the crime committed. You just don’t get it do you, you appear to have no respect for the law. I actually feel sorry for you all.

By Thomas

August 21, 2007 10:10 AM | Link to this

White’s may hide behind our computer screens, but atleast we don’t use race as an exscuse for all our problems. And I’m on my blackberry!

By cwilli

August 21, 2007 10:11 AM | Link to this

Let he is never done anything stupid cast the first stone. I don’t condone what Michael Vick has done by no means, but to take his future and just throw it away is obserd. I think the way you do is first of all P.E.T.A she try and educate not convict. It seems to me they just want to destroy someone career. That same dog if gotten loose came to someone’s yard most likely would have been killed because the dog is bred that way. If P.E.T.A. wants to get somebody get the breeders who sale these dogs for these dog fights. Vick was not a breeder, as we all know this type of dog has been know to attack for no apparent reason at all and always being put down, so PEOPLE get a grip and focus on helping and not DESTROYING if that be the case why not protest football they way it endangers HUMANS oh my bad it’s legal. So Michael I say to you, this should be a hard lesson learned. Know who your friends are and when you are a high profile star it’s certain things you can’t do. I will stand by you because there it two sides to the story and we haven’t heard yours. Stay prayed up and you will get through this.

Peace

By BeBe KID

August 21, 2007 10:18 AM | Link to this

People fail to realize that Michael Vick PLEAD guilty. The plea does not mean that he was neccesarily guilty. One thing that this whole case reflects is that there is no honor among low lifes. His cousin Purnell, and friends Tony and Quanis rolled over on Mike and squealed like HOGS in a slaughter house giving racist sports writers like the AJC’s Jeff Schultz and “BOOT LICKING” black sports writers like the AJC’s Terrence Moore enough rope to lynch Mike Vick. Additionally, these low lifes gave the FEDS so much incriminating evidence that Mike’s lawyers could not even develop a plausible defense for him. There is an old African Proverb that says you are better off by yourself than to keep bad company. If Michael is guilty of anything it’s keeping bad company.

By fatz

August 21, 2007 10:21 AM | Link to this

GORDON GEKKO: Bud, the thing you gotta remember about WASPs - they love animals, they hate people….anyway, being a WASP myself, i guess i take issue with this stuff being equated with horseracing and hunting, fishing etc. i think using handgrenades to catch fish is illegal too, and i don’t remember any deer hunters using flamethrowers or ouzi’s on their outings. and when a horse breaks down at the track, i think they are given a shot- not hung or electrocuted. this is all about cruelty. its tough to legislate that and i admit that sport can cross over that decency/ cruelty line very easily. but laws are laws and the majority rules. and we are expected to know and obey the laws- ignorance is no excuse. its all very sad because i feel MV does not have a bad heart, he is not an evil person, and he is also being villified (rightfully) for something that has historically been a white enterprise. I hope he can pull himself out of this…

By THE GOD OF WAR

August 21, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this

OK what Vick did was wrong but what is big game hunting.. I expect to see Ted Nugent and others on trial next week.. Yeah we live in a culture where we build people up to tear them down.. By the way Falcons if he is allowed to come back he will be the greatest quarterback ever because of this humbling experience. Mike Vick will be back just because he can win a game and after all we live in a capitalistic society where cash rules everything around us.. So somebody will want to pay Vick to win a few games, sell a few tickets, and make them a few dollars.. So what PETA shows up they still have to pay for tickets.. We love a good comeback story and somebodys greed will make it so he plays again. Vick is OK no matter what and since were quoting Dave Chapelle heres a few. “He’s rich B!tch!” or better still “I’m Mike Vick B!tch!” “What! OK!”

By Who Care's

August 21, 2007 10:26 AM | Link to this

Lets talk about why children are going to Dekalb County Schools with no air in 100 degree weather. Lets talk about why men are killing their families. Let talk about why we are fight a war where our young men and women are getting killed. We still don’t know why. What about these children that are getting killed and molested. I respect the law but value human life over animal life any day. We have more important things to worry about then some dogs. The same dogs that will turn around and kill you, but I guess that is ok. Then after they kill you they are put to sleep. I guess that is ok to. PETA kills animals too. What is a football made out of? A cow. A cow that is an animal that had to be killed. This is bigger than MV and it will come out one day.

By dee

August 21, 2007 10:26 AM | Link to this

I feel like everyone should stop hating on Vick. If he’s guilty SO WHAT!!! He’s not the 1st one to dog fight and wont be the last. Why are people so quickly to judge. I’m sure majority of the people on this site have commited a crime. The problem is you just haven’t been caught. The issue is he’s a BLACK MAN (that’s 1 strike against him) and he’s rich. We all know that the WHITE PEOPLE want to find him gulity so he doesn’t make any money. They feel like that’s too much power for one man. But I guarantee you he will bounce BACK!!!! HATERS!!!!!

By Adam

August 21, 2007 10:28 AM | Link to this

To Chris & realist: It would seem fairly obvious to me that neither of you understand the history of race relations in the USA. If you did, you would understand the general mistrust of white people. Does it make it right? No. However, you will not be able to comprehend where it comes from because you don’t know your history. It would take too much of my valuable time to explain to you the distrust. Don’t get me wrong. I thought Vick was guilty all along. I’m not a Vick supporter. I’m glad that he’s getting what’s coming to him.

By Tornado

August 21, 2007 10:29 AM | Link to this

yeah it’s all about race, it always is! Im sooooo sick of hearing it i could puke. Why can’t you say the real reason that this stuff happens. Because you all have NO MORALS, NO EDUCATION, and NO SHAME!

By Adam

August 21, 2007 10:35 AM | Link to this

A second chance? It won’t be in the NFL. He’ll be lucky if he can get a job as a janitor. Wherever he seeks employment, there will be protesters to ensure that he doesn’t get the job. Americans don’t believe in second chances. That’s just lip service like just about everything else that comes out of our mouths. We’re the biggest hypocrites on the face of the planet. I hope Vick has saved some of his money. He’s going to need it to survive. A job will be extremely hard to come by.

By THE GOD OF WAR

August 21, 2007 10:38 AM | Link to this

Georgia Stop listening to talk Radio cause thats what Neil Boortz said this morning.. Form your own opinion and not what the media tells you… Hey maybe this is a diversion from all the other nosense thats going on.. Show Vick and we wont have to worry about the housing market, stock market, homelessness, healthcare, gas prices, fake wars and such… If Vick lied then where is the outrage for our president.. I dont get it..

By RBM

August 21, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this

DinotheFalcon is an idiot Mike Vick will never play for the Falcons again. Arhur Blank is no idiot..He will soon be going after his 22 million once the NFL suspends Vick which makes his contract in valid. Blank will not be shown up by a turd thug like vick. I hope he never plays another down. ” I look forward to clearing my good name” Real good name you moron

By Earl

August 21, 2007 10:42 AM | Link to this

Vick is fullfilling a childhood expectation, going to prison. Anyone from da hood that knew the two Vicks knew he was prison bound. Who is surprised. When will marcus go to prsion, I’d say within the year. Anyway, Vick is out of the NFL for good. Goodell doesn’t care what Vicks thugs that pull for him think, he could care less about the ghetto.

By jetblasted

August 21, 2007 10:48 AM | Link to this

.

What gets me, is that there are so many people who idolize athletes …

Whoop-te-Freakin’-Do …

He Plays a Game … A GAME, People …

Real Heroes are to be looked up to …

Mike Vick, or any Athelete for That Matter is No Hero …

.

By Veda Babb

August 21, 2007 10:49 AM | Link to this

Give Vick another chance…I don’t think so! He didn’t give the helpless animals another chance after surviving being hung, those that survived were then drown. It might be easier to listen to his lame excuses if he at least stood up and faced the public instead of continuing to hide behind his lawyers. My very wise mother always said be careful about who you associate with, a lesson never listened to. I do not understand why some people are so intent on blaming this on everyone else except the person who committed the crime. As long as people continue to blame everything on race, or should I say the white man, this country will always be needlessly divided.

By newton

August 21, 2007 10:52 AM | Link to this

Yes Vick can redeem himself, but it will be VERY difficult for him to play in the NFL again b/c he is entering his prime and will have to be away from the constantly changing game for 2+ years (also, prisons do not have personal trainers). I think it is worth mentioning here that the point of prison is rehabilitation and to keep threats to society locked up. Is Vick really a threat to society? People went to these fights on their own volition and no humans were hurt. I think it would be a lot better if Vick served 6 months, payed 1 million to the humane society, and visited elementary schools during his 1 year suspension and told children about how it is not cool or tough to fight dogs and about the importance of understanding the law (he did not know you could get in this much trouble for fighting dogs). Seems like this would actually help society, but we have seen that PETA just wants him destroyed. Before PETA has a heart attack, Latin American countries (and Spain) viciously murder bulls every sunday, yet we do not consider them to be barbarians. WE DISMISS IT AS PART OF THEIR UPBRINGING AND CULTURE. Isn’t Vick from backwoods redneck virginia where this has been going on and will continue to go on for years. Along those same lines, this has nothing to do with race but everything to do with socio-economic class and extreme prosecutors with little to no oversight by a die hard conservative president and Attorney General. Not that I like Barry Bonds or Vick particularly, but aren’t there more serious crimes (i.e. gov’t corruption, theft, and violence that go unnoticed and unpunished because our Just. Dept. spend years and millions of dollars on witch hunts that DO NOT AFFECT OUR SOCIETY AS A WHOLE.

By Dominick

August 21, 2007 10:55 AM | Link to this

“ATL Boy”, don’t excuse Michael Vick’s wrongdoing, just because of the disaster with the New Orleans evacuation. Plenty of pets suffered and died in New Orleans, along with the African-American and white residents. The powers-that-be refused to let plenty of African-Americans bring their pets onto evacuation busses, or into evacuation shelters. (Although some individual police officers and soldiers tried to save animals.) Michael Vick’s conduct is WRONG, and the neglect of New Orleans’ people and animals is WRONG.

By texmex

August 21, 2007 10:56 AM | Link to this

This is just the tip of the iceberg. You think that Vick is the only punk in the NFL who’s involved in dogfighting? It’s all coming down, mark my words. Vick supporters - you are free to go now, back to believing that OJ is innocent.

By rhett manning

August 21, 2007 10:57 AM | Link to this

people should put the blame where it belong and stop making race the problem. here is a young man that was given more money than most people will make in a lifetime an like most young folk without someone he could trust to point him in right direction thing will happen. the news media like stories of this nature instead of focusing on whats really important like dogs mauling people all over the country, those dog owners are the one that should be locked up. take it like a man mike vick now you know what a friend is suppose to be.

By Akagi

August 21, 2007 11:00 AM | Link to this

Claudia:

Unless you are Buddhist, then “God” doesn’t say this at all. There are some animals he forbids man to eat if you read Leviticus 11, but he gave man “dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. Read Genesis 1:26.

Also in Leviticus 11 and Deuteronomy 14 he gives a list of the animals you may eat as well as those you are not allowed to eat. Did you flunk out of Bible school? So in fact, for most religions of the world, God did not in fact command you not to shed the blood of any of his animals. Care to cite the book and verse where this command is found?

And even if this were true, would Vick not be guilty as well since he did in fact shed the blood of animals in the most cruel way?

The fact is Vick broke Federal law—he is a criminal and nothing you can say will erase this fact.

By Justice

August 21, 2007 11:00 AM | Link to this

Everyone knows that only drug dealers own pit bulls, so normally I’m all for euthanizing those animals, particularly if they’re only being bred to fight.

In Vick’s case, I don’t understand why those idiots felt like they needed to torture the animals. Torturing animals is nothing more than a sick twisted power trip, no matter which way you look at it. Remember, that’s how Dahmer got his start and I think most normal people would question the morality of anyone who defends that behaviour.

By Middle America

August 21, 2007 11:02 AM | Link to this

Yes! We finally got what we wanted. The evil Mike Vick has been defeated. Now we can have a quarterback that “Looks the part”, can speak perfect King’s English, and will never be caught dead wearing those God-awful corn rows. Imagine this: 4-12 seasons, local black outs, no nationally televised games, and a half-empty Ga. Dome. But at least that evil black man is no longer our quarterback.

By Sobecat

August 21, 2007 11:07 AM | Link to this

LOL @ the Vick supporters. First, it was innocent until proven guilty. Now it’s either he’s guilty but he’s not OR torturing dogs is no big deal. Look in the mirror, they could have video of him raping children and you’d still say he’s innoncent and being treated unfairly.

By an observer

August 21, 2007 11:08 AM | Link to this

Why when African Americans feel something is racist white people say we are pulling the race card? Read some of the comments. Read the personal attacks. This is why we call some of you racist. Flipping the script back on African-Americans doesn’t mean you are not a racist. Perception can be perceived as reality. I agree with most of you Caucasians, you are not racist. By definition it is the hatred or intolerance of another race or other races. Most of the people on this blog are using the wrong term. There are few extremist in today’s time that can be truly labeled as a racist. The correct use of the term for the despicable, crucifying, hatred displayed on this blog is prejudice - an irrational attitude of hostility directed against an individual. All the personal attacks and the pointless name calling are just because many of you are prejudice toward Michael Vick. Everyone is prejudice in some aspect whether it is to food, cars, or people we are all prejudice in some aspect. Wake up and stop saying African-Americans are pulling the race card. Most people are just going with the popular term, and not the correct term for what you really are PREJUDICE.

In reference to Vick, I think he made a huge mistake and may have ended his career as a football player. Do I think he should come back? Yes, he is a very exciting player. He should do his time and pay his fines. How would you feel if a Union, an Employer or a Government official prevented you from making a living in your profession indefinitely for a mistake you made?

Oh, one last thing. You PETA freaks need to get a life and stop trying to force your liberal views of animals on others. What’s next? Guns, SUV’s, private jets, look out for the liberal freaks…..Yes, I am prejudice toward PETA.

By EBONICS BOY

August 21, 2007 11:09 AM | Link to this

Wif Ookie going to da big house, AKA the pokie… I be hoping dat I could get some play from da Falcons. I wus a reel fast in high school and can still play some ball. Give a brother a chance.

By Sloan

August 21, 2007 11:12 AM | Link to this

I think it’s amusing how many black people on this blog keep saying “it’s only dogs, it’s not humans”. Is there some handbook they give you guys when you are old enough to read that makes most of you think alike? Do any of you that are saying these idiotic things have any morals or any beliefs that torturing, fighting and killing innocent animals is wrong?

No, Vick isn’t the only person in the world dog fighting but he and his thug cohorts got caught and they broke the law. This is not a law for blacks only. It just seems that blacks are raised to believe that animals are sub-species and it’s ok to torture and kill them.

By Ms. Michelle

August 21, 2007 11:15 AM | Link to this

What’s up with all this Vick is a “thug” mess like ain’t no white boys out there trying to be thugs define thug Earl Do any of you have a crystal ball you’re looking through to see his future? Hellz no! All those PETA people need to get a life, cause if Vick were to write them a phat azz check they would shut up

By Matthew

August 21, 2007 11:17 AM | Link to this

Angela black folks can shoot ducks. PEOPLE are NOTallowed to torture animals.

I can send you articles about “white folks” in prison for torturing animals.

Remember this is about someone comitting a crime nothing more.

By Archie Bunker

August 21, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this

The black community needs to learn to stop making excuses for disgusting moral behavior. People in the black community can commit all kinds of crimes, and you’ll find some group trying to make excuses (i.e. blaming it on Mr Charlie, blaming it on their upbringing, etc). This is why no one takes them seriously and respects those people anymore.

By outsider

August 21, 2007 11:24 AM | Link to this

Where do I begin? After reading these blogs for 5 mins, I could not help feeling SAD. To see the hate from both sides of the argument is truly depressing. I am white and I can assure you that this does not make me happy. What is clear here is that racism is alive for “both” black and white.

By mike

August 21, 2007 11:33 AM | Link to this

For those of you wishing to be educated on the “sport” of dog fighting, watch HBO’s Real Sports this month. The Vick case prompted an investigation and I assure you that the story will both disgust you and turn your stomach!

By Real World

August 21, 2007 11:38 AM | Link to this

Vick is a world class loser! He will never be considered an idol/hero to anyone other than the black community. Those communities seem to look the other way anytime a black person does something that is against law. It’s always a conspiracy against the black community, if a black person does anything wrong (Vick, OJ, Bonds and on and on). I really hope he loses everything and he has to get a real job when he gets out. The NFL should give him a life time penalty and never allow him back into the league. To those people who think animals shouldn’t have the same rights as humans…go F yourself and go back to where you came from. Leaving your dog chained to a tree with no water is torcher and you should be jailed. With Vick going to jail there will be one less piece of trash in Atlanta. Enjoy prison and don’t drop the soap. He better get hard labor too. Now if the gov’t can get all the rappers and basketball thugs in prison this world would be a better place.

By Ms. M

August 21, 2007 11:41 AM | Link to this

Trust that there are still dog fights going on somewhere in America

By Adam

August 21, 2007 11:41 AM | Link to this

* To Sloan: You’re generalizing, man!* Not every black person thinks the same. I don’t agree with them and I’m black. Frankly, I think horse racing, dog racing, cockfighting and anything else involving animals forced to entertain the masses is wrong. Another thing I’m noticing here, many of you seem to think that one person’s opinion represents an entire race of people’s opinion. That is so backwards that it’s not even funny. One of the freedoms we crow about here is individuality. In discussions like these, that seems to get lost in the shuffle.

By Marty

August 21, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this

Vick broke the law and should be punished accordingly. Additionally, his punishment should not be an ounce over 90 days in jail, 1000 hours of community service and probation and he should absolutely be allowed back into the league. Or would he have been better off if he had gotten drunk killed someone.

By Atlanta Native

August 21, 2007 11:44 AM | Link to this

And the final score is Michael Vick - 8: Pitbulls - 1. However nobody really won, did they?

Michael Vick and OJ Simpson have confirmed for me everything I was raised to believe as I was growing up in the South back in the 1950’s.

By maf

August 21, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this

Can anyone say “Mike Tyson”?

By Tonya

August 21, 2007 11:48 AM | Link to this

Can someone explain to me the hunting of animals as a sport?Gutting them, cutting off their heads to place on mantels and eating them. How is this so different from dog fighting? How about the animals that are bred and slaughtered for food on a daily basis? Again how is this so different from dog fighting? Try watching a animal fight going to the chopping block because they know what’s coming, the mother cow fighting for her calf because she knows its about to be slaughtered for human consumption. You can not argue and say it’s not the same because it is.. Innocent animals being tortured and killed. You don’t need to eat meat to live. Next time you eat a piece of meat, think about how that animal lived and died.. Lastly I read in the paper how DOGS are being used in Iraq to “work” with the soldiers. These same dogs are being blown up, losing limbs or worse… I’m sure these dogs volunteered for duty the same way Vick’s “dogs” volunteered to dog fight……

Why are people especially the media so concerned about this? I’m not saying that it’s right but this is being blown totally out of proportion. Report on the Jena Six, I bet half of you don’t know what’s it about because most of the media has not reported it at all… Unfortunately race is an issue in this. Not in the sense of he’s black let’s get him for dog fighting but it’s the sense of… Here is a young black man,a great athlete, top payer in NFL, and he committed a crime, not raped a woman, not killed a human, not drug dealing, so we are going to make this front page top story as much as possible…. It’s true America anytime a black celebrity is linked to a crime whether directly or indirectly, the media and America spotlights the event…

Vick should be allowed to play football, do the time whatever and then playball this is not worth ending his career… It’s not like he’s working with dogs…

By Joe

August 21, 2007 11:48 AM | Link to this

I was wondering when someone would throw out the “Katrina” card.

WTF does “Katrina” have to do with Michael Vick being a Felon?

By Warren

August 21, 2007 11:49 AM | Link to this

Vick’s future is in the movies.THE LONGEST YARD 3.Staring Vick.

By Sobecat

August 21, 2007 11:52 AM | Link to this

I hope Blank goes after all of his money for breach of contract. It would be great if Vick was broke when he got out of prison.

By troubled

August 21, 2007 11:52 AM | Link to this

Everybody needs forgiveness and it will come with great pain for Michael. But in real life, Mike will walk out of prison with plenty in his pocket. He can start a business, do whatever he wants and with the right guidance be successful in life. Unfortunately it will never occur between the hash marks again.

By Voice of Reason

August 21, 2007 11:53 AM | Link to this

I HOPE he’s done. He is a total embarrassment, to say nothing of being totally stupid to squander his name, life and success. BUT in this sick, misguided society we live, it’s very likely that some failing team will give in and sign his barbaric butt in ~ 3 years.

It is MY hope that the NFL bans him for life. And, BTW, I am a Black female, one who is sick and tired of seeing people in our race do stupid stuff just cause Whites have goteen away with the same things for years. Do better. Walk better. Live better.

Vick needs to be banned from the NFL so he can realize the error of his ways. Our society needs to stop rewarding aberrant behavior. This celebrity culture is the ruin of our society as a whole.

By Rich

August 21, 2007 11:53 AM | Link to this

To my fellow Black Americans, please, please, please use common sense. Illegal is Illegal!!!! The Federal govt did not just create this dog fighting law for Michael Vick. Michael Vick should take ownership for his mistakes. The man is worth millions and he decides to get involved in dog fighting…not too bright!!! Yes, I’m a Black American who owns a dog that lives in my house and know many Black Americans in the same situation. This is not a Black and White issue…it’s a right and wrong issue. If Michael was innocent he would have not accepted the plea…trust me!!! This is not about comparing anything to human deaths or murders. All of this publicity surrounding Vick is because of his celebrity status…oh well, it comes with the territory and he created it!!!

By Vick Supporter

August 21, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this

Everybody holler them poor pit bulls. Pit bulls are not family pets they will turn against you. Here are some facts, In Spotsylvania County, Dorothy Sullivan, 82, was attacked and mauled by three pit bulls. In 2005, a 12 year old boy killed by his family’s pit bulls. A guy name Brennan said, “Don’t trust them”. Lorize Redding, 42, St.Charles County, died after an apparent attack by his 8 yr old female and 3 year old male dogs. Zachary King, 7 years old, killed by family pit bulls. The list goes on and on. So stop saying those poor dogs. They are not family pets they are breeded to be killers. To all the people holler about Michael Vick should be given this and that jail time and be band from the league. These dogs should be outlaw from the United States because they should not be considered pet especially since they will turn against a human in a heart beat.

By Pat

August 21, 2007 11:56 AM | Link to this

Why are people arguing on here? You can not change anyone’s beliefs. If there are people in the world still hiding behind rasism they are actually being rasist themselves and are not going to be happy with their lives and not move on to greater things. It must be sad to live that life style

By Cynthia

August 21, 2007 11:57 AM | Link to this

I always said that if Vick was guilty of what they accused him of, then he deserved to be punished. Those of you saying that he didn’t kill a human so you don’t care, then you guys obviously don’t read the BIBLE. Because if you did, you would know that every living thing has a SOUL. However, it’s not up to us to judge or even to forgive. Ultimately, he will be judged by the higher power and he will be forgiven.

By WTF?????

August 21, 2007 11:58 AM | Link to this

First: I am an african american male.

Second: I am a dog lover and owner.

With that being said, this is really not a racial issue. What MV did was incredibly stupid, period. From nothing more than a business pov why would a guy earning millions wager to win 3-10 thousand dollars, illegally? Its sad at best.

In the end, though, MV will be better off than any of us. He may wind up out of football, in jail and without a job, but he’ll still have millions after this is all over.

Whats amazing to me is how emotional both sides get over this issue. MV did what he did and he’ll pay for it. Personally, I didn’t benefit when he signed his huge contract ( neither did the Falcons apparently) and I won’t lose sleep if he goes to jail.

Whats amazing is its easier for the masses to focus on MV then deal with the coming social security crisis, the healthcare issues, the escalating crime, the lack of leadership in this country, the job market, the deficit, or the current mortgage crisis. While the empire falls apart we occupy ourselves with MV and Paris Hilton. Now I understand why Bush said on tv he doesn’t care what you think, he knew you’d be watching football.

Go home and hug your kids, say I love you to someone, and pick up a few pit bulls of your own. You’re gonna need them when this country returns to a dustbowl. Most of this audience won’t even notice unless its published in a tabloid.

By db

August 21, 2007 11:59 AM | Link to this

I am an ex falcon ticket holder as of this year. Vick lost me when he fingered the fans. That showed me he didn’t care about “the fan”. Then Blank lost me when he said after the Miami water bottle incident that Vick didn’t have a history of bad behavior. I guess Blank has now pulled his head out of the sand. Vick was the ultimate non-team player. He wasn’t friends with his teammates, but hung with his homeys. If he had put the team before the homeys he and the falcons would both be a heckuva lot better off this season. I would like to say I am sorry to see him go, but adios Ron Mexico. Have fun in Sing Sing.

By Johnny Reb

August 21, 2007 12:03 PM | Link to this

You people are a trip. I don’t understand the white man/ black man buch of crap you people are talking about or comparing hunting to dog fighting/animal abuse. COme guy get a little education so the whole world won’t know about the stupidity running ramped here on this blog. Get a life people. He is a man made a dumba** decisione to get involved in dog fighting, gambling and racktering. He will plead guilty, case closed.

By Dead Falcons /RIP

August 21, 2007 12:15 PM | Link to this

one thing for sure Vick knows he is a black man . he may come back but why. Vick don’t stay in america you have enough money to go to south america and live like a king. America is still america from 1776 till 2007. land of the free if you are a dog. Move to rio you would love it!

By Sobecat

August 21, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this

Serious question, are there really people out there who only supported the Falcons because we had a black qb and not will not support them because we don’t. If so, that’s pathetic. Why wouldn’t you support Arthur Blank who went out of this way to try to help Vick become a man only to get stabbed in the back on multiple occasions. Also, as a Falcon fan, I could see being a little more upset, from a football standpoint, if Vick was actually very good. He was one of the lower echelon starting qb’s in the league.

By Scrappy

August 21, 2007 12:19 PM | Link to this

I can’t believe there are people who are still suporting MV, and who are claiming this doesn’t really mean he is guilty, he just pleaded guilty. Come on people! He plead guilty because there are 7 other people going to testify to the fact that he is guilty! And enough with the racism people, he is being be prosecuted because he broke the law, not because he is black. Do you think the FEDS have nothing better to do than randomly pick on rich black men? And then they planted all that evidence right? What about the rest of the country, the FEDS aren’t out arresting all the rich black men in other cities - so they must just have a specialy hatred for MV and Atlanta. Just ridiculous!

By gator_girl

August 21, 2007 12:20 PM | Link to this

SO MUCH HATE so LITTLE TIME!

Stop with all the generalizations from BOTH sides.. Black communities this, white communities that.. Mike is done, should we rejoice heck no.. but we should see how there is still rampant ills affecting all aspects of our community..

Decide what you can do to be PRODUCTIVE members of society.. each one TEACH one.. and not rejoice on a man’s downfall.. yours could be next!

By Diane

August 21, 2007 12:20 PM | Link to this

Why all the hating on P.E.T.A because they don’t think it’s right to slam a dog to the ground, or electocute them? Why all the blatant disrespect for the law? Why put someone such as this low class, low rent scumbag up to level he does not deserve? Is this the best the black community can come up with? This is how far you’ve set your goals? Your people marched and died for you to worship some sick and twisted hero like Mike Vick? Sharpton and Jackson have not come to the defense of Vick, this alone speaks volumes as how low people think this is. I can’t help but think the people supporting Vick are truly the parts of the balck community that other blacks flee from and don’t want to be associated with. I know my black friends think Vick is sick and they’d never defend him, but my friends are college eduacated and were not raised in the ghetto. They excel in the business world and don’t hang their stars on overrated and overpaid athletes who do not pocess one good moral thread.

By Jessica

August 21, 2007 12:25 PM | Link to this

I’m a black woman & I am very disgusted by what Vick did. He made millions of dollars and threw it all away. That’s no ones fault but his own. If he wanted to be that dumb, throw all his fame & $$$ away, more power to him..he had this coming. He could not get out of that “Street Thug” mentality that many of my fellow black people seem to have these days. The $$$ he very stupidly gambled away on dog fighting, he could have spent on sending some unfortunate kids from his old neighborhood to college. What ashame….he’s become no better than a thug to me. Not a role model at all.

By Dan

August 21, 2007 12:29 PM | Link to this

How about embracing some real men. Men who are responsible and worthy of our respect. Along with being far better at their positions than Vick is at his Maybe we should talk about Dunn and Crumpler

By VBick move to better ground

August 21, 2007 12:30 PM | Link to this

Vick move to better ground. America is home to a lot of black men that is lock in, you are not. you could go to south america and live like a king. Thing has changed . There is money to be made and more life to live other than in america. I know this is home but home mean you and a lot more black men no good. we are stuck because be are broke you are not. when you get out they will not rest mike. you got money and america is not what it use to be. go see for you self. Try it you will love it!

By HRH

August 21, 2007 12:35 PM | Link to this

How tough are you now, Mr. Vick? May you lose everything that is important to you—a football career, endorsements, money, fame, power, glory, health, security, and respect. You have no humanity, honor, dignity, or worth because of your own selfish actions. May the souls of the innocent dogs you so violently slaughtered haunt your nightmares and torture your pathetic guilty conscience in prison while you rot in a dark steel cage with the other incarcerated social detritus and vermin you deserve to share space with. A useless thug from the ghetto shall be returned to the place where he belongs!

By wow!

August 21, 2007 12:35 PM | Link to this

as far as blacks have come in this country its sad to see people like this on this blog. the gap was closing and you people with the help of jesse and al are opening it back up and setting your race back. we all know there crimes that are more serious than others but they are all still crimes. when a white guy robs a bank you dont see us saying “its just stealing money he didnt kill anyone”. what is wrong with you people? how can you repeatly defend criminal behavior? you cant be so stupid that your favorite player ruins his career and instead of being let down, disappointed, or p** off at him you try to find way to make it someone else fault. think about what you are saying. he plead guilt. he lied to all of us. he set this franchise back. but yall dont care about the falcons yall only care about one of 53 players that make up my hometown team. so now we will take a 7 million salary cap hit for the next 3 years and wont be any good but yall dont care yall care too much about defended crimanal behavior and a player that was an average at best qb. grow up! you cant defend every criminal bc they shared your skin color. MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. WOULD BE ASSAMED OF YOU!

By The Chad

August 21, 2007 12:38 PM | Link to this

Sure he can redeem himself. For one hour per day in the rec yard. He can go out there and just “do what he do”.

Im glad to be rid of him. Now maybe we can find a QB and not a rapper who plays QB on the side.

By Alla

August 21, 2007 12:39 PM | Link to this

I don’t think Vick should be able to redeem himself. In fact, he should never been offered a plea bargain. He should be treated exactly the way that he treated those dogs. I hope he goes to jail for the max, which is weak, and never plays for the NFL again. The only way I will be satisfied is if he is left with nothing and has no career, no money, and no support from anyone. He should be thrown in a pin full of those fighting pitbulls! Forget the Falcons-someone else will come along soon and be better and bigger than Vick.

By Puzzled

August 21, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this

The biggest travesty in all this is how in the h..l did Mike Vick get into such a fine academic institution as Virgina Tech in the first place? Based on his decision making abilities, he seemed like the perfect fit for UT.

By Redman

August 21, 2007 12:43 PM | Link to this

Just dogs???Bringing another black man down?? Thinking like this is why 60% of prisoners are black, 0ver 50% of black children have no father. The nation is lucky this didn’t go to trial or it would’ve been another OJ. Blacks cheering just because of color and not facts. Knowledge is power and balcks have no power

By Patrick

August 21, 2007 12:46 PM | Link to this

Lost in all of this hubaloo is the sad fact that race relations between the canine community and the black community have been set back another 100 years.

By Chill out

August 21, 2007 12:47 PM | Link to this

Not all blacks think Vick is innocent!

But who really cares the Falcons SUCK bigtime!

Atlanta clearly has some racial issues (read the blogs).

Pretty sad and embarassing

By dturner

August 21, 2007 12:53 PM | Link to this

Vick Supporter:

You are a statistic to your black race, you will be another brother that ends up in jail for your stupidity !!

By Women Rule

August 21, 2007 12:55 PM | Link to this

I am a season ticket holder and try to sell the tickets I know I am unable to attend. Guess what - of all the games I wanted to sell - only 1 regular season game is available for sale and 1 pre-season game is for sell. What does that tell you? Go Falcons! It’s a TEAM sport, not an individual sport. Vick was never a leader and did not have the respect of the other players. He had a couple good years, but instead of improving, the team went down. Arthur Blank loved Vick and as long as Blank owned the team, Vick was set for life. No wonder we lost 2 great coaches! By the way, if you break the law - you must pay the consequences. I seriously doubt Vick will return to the NFL. Maybe the Canadian leage will have him - time will only tell.

By gator_girl

August 21, 2007 12:55 PM | Link to this

Um Diane just because your friends are college educated doesnt mean they werent raised in the ghetto. What generalizations YOU MAKE! How ignorant do you sound.. There are many affluent blacks who have excelled from inner city communities.. its not where you are FROM its where you are going.. GREAT CHARACTER can be found in all communities even the most crime ridden drug infested places!

Its not where Mike is from its what he is lacking not because of his skin color or the ghetto.. its because of what wasnt developed, what he didnt get or seek to get.. its his lack of maturity, etc etc..

Please SEEK YOUR BLINDSPOTS and QUESTION your ASSUMPTIONS. YOU my “intelligent” woman still need some schooling!

By The Advocate

August 21, 2007 12:55 PM | Link to this

For people saying this is not a racial issue or blacks are “playing the race card”, I ask that you realize that there was no indication that the “man” set Michael Vick up.

The intervention from the NAACP, SCLC and black community was from a media standpoint. What good was it to wake up to top stories on ESPN about non-developments in the Vick case? What good was it to continuously read the poorly written jibberish of Terrence Moore and the other AJC writers(not journalists)? What good is it now to continuously show 2000 and 2001 interviews of Michael Vick as if he died? That is what was advocated—A wait and see approach.

America has taken a wait and see approach with the Iraq War, the cure for AIDS, struggling economic and educational systems in America. Why not waiting and seeing the legal process play itself out?

Why was America so concerned with rushing to judgment and vindicated Michael Vick, career 54% passer who made more plays and carried a pitiful snd irrevelant Atlanta football franchise on his legs for 6 yrs.(which I happen to be a fan of)?

The situation played itself out and Vick will suffer the consequences. Hopefully, he’s learned a valuable lesson because as an Afr Am. man, I have. “What is done in the dark will always come to the light and be careful of who you have in your inner circle.”

Take care and God bless!

By texmex

August 21, 2007 12:58 PM | Link to this

Vick Supporter Obviously you are not intelligent enough to research the breed. Just keep being a sheep, and believing all you read in the media.

By WTF?????

August 21, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this

Newton, great post but I’d like to correct you. Prison isn’t for rehabilitation. Their there for warehousing. All Vick will learn there is how to run an illegal operation in a more profitable manner.

To those that don’t know, the south is notorious for dog fighting.

This cant be racial. If you think what Vick did is bad wait till you guys turn on Harrington when atlanta wins 2 games all season. Thats when you’ll see atlanta trying to hold his head under a bucket of water. LOL

By Bev

August 21, 2007 1:01 PM | Link to this

Who cares? I mean its the FALCONS, not the Redskins, Cowboys, 49ers, Dolphins or any team that AMERICA cares about.

By garrett

August 21, 2007 1:06 PM | Link to this

Believe it or not, this is the best thing that could’ve happened to the Falcons. Vick as a player was dead to me two seasons ago. Occasional amazing runs aside, he was a liability as a QB. He has made it clear that he is simply a stupid person and how anyone thinks he could succeed on any consistent basis as an NFL QB is beyond me. He clearly would NEVER get it.

So now instead of languishing for a few more years with a loser leading the team, we can move on a lot sooner. If Vick hadn’t brought this on himself, we would’ve been stuck with him. Let’s stop pretending the guy was a good QB. He was spectacular at times, but that only will get you a spot on highlight reels, not a Lombardi trophy.

The real question and blame should go on the Falcons brass. How in the world they could be in Vick’s midst for 3+ years and not figure out he may possibly be too stupid to be worthy of that gigantic contract is mind-boggling. Not to mention there was no hurry to sign him at that point anyway. And to make things worse, they had a essential, highly-capable backup they let go even though Vick’s style invited injury and he was clearly too dumb to be an effective QB. Great effort, front office!

By TJ

August 21, 2007 1:06 PM | Link to this

I guess the new coach got his way! He said when he came that ‘Mike Vick was the quarterback for now.” All the “Vick” issues started after his arrival. But I think that he failed to realize you need talent in a quarterback to win games and that is what Arthur is paying him to do. He had DJ, who is now hurt but was also inexperienced (but very talented). It hurts me to know that although Mike made what appears to be an association mistake, by being around (I am not even saying involved because we really don’t know the details since we didn’t have a trial)activities like this. He is still doesn’t deserve the treatment he is getting from some of the same fans who screamed his name on game days. Atlanta is still such a turncoat city. If the coat you are wearing isn’t the right one for the occasion, they will turn on you! I am praying for Mike and for his family and for the Falcons.

By jeb

August 21, 2007 1:06 PM | Link to this

Anyone can be redeemed if they want to.I was at the Dome before Michael Vick came. I could count the number of fans still there on one hand in my section. I am disappointed in the way Atlanta media has handled Vick. Oh, I forgot 90% of them are not really Falcons fans or supporters. They just report and that’s why its BASHING. I don’t want to see him leave Atlanta, but I know teams are in waiting to pick him up. Atlanta does not deserve a SUPERSTAR that draws a sell out crowd. They are known for letting superstars go and they go on to win rings elsewhere I am still Michael Vick fan.. The Falcons didn’t sell out the dome before and after going to the SUPERBOWL. The media and people has bashed him, but they still went to the DOME to see him. My job has fired a lot a people for wrong doing. They got the job back and people fail to look at their work environment. I say the media will not give NBA situation the same attention and that’s worst CORRUPTION. Let’s see how it plays between NBA and NFL . I don’t condone his wrong. We all have issues and his just happen to be made public. This will be a life changing situation and lesson learned on his part.

By Shaun

August 21, 2007 1:08 PM | Link to this

All of you who are bashing, need a life! If you or your kids ever looked at Vick as a role model, that is your own stupidity! Atheletes are not role models, they are just that, Atheletes! Redemption is always possible. If God can forgive anyone or anything, who are you to hold a grudge? Vick IS the falcons, they are nothing without him. So, go back to your last place no respect team, cause that is where they will be w/o VICK. I support him and i forgive him.

By Eric

August 21, 2007 1:08 PM | Link to this

When home P gets of the pen in 3-5, he can go to every GM and owner of the NFL and show them what a NFL QB is NOT!!

Only then will he have some measure of redemption.

ESPN reporting that the Falcons have started the process of getting back all the money he STOLE from them.. more good news!

By BZ

August 21, 2007 1:10 PM | Link to this

Moron. How can you be the number 1 quarterback in America and knowingly break the law? While the rest of us have a job (just over broke) he is or was living his dream. He deserves whatever he gets. And for my dog Spike, I love you and RIP! Thanks for nothing Mike!

By MAWDUKES

August 21, 2007 1:10 PM | Link to this

For all you people screaming “set up”, remember Viriginia law enforcement went to the house in Virginia with a drug warrant/search for his cousin and they came upon the dog fighting evidence. How is that a set up? Also, the law enforcement and the Feds are starting to crack down on dog fighting. In South Carolina, David Tant is serving 40 years for 41 counts of dog fighting. Phillip Maffei was sentenced to 5 years in S.C. These 2 men were big time in the dog fighting world. Vick’s name came up in both investigations and also in some of the 20 or so pending cases. So, it was just a matter of time before Vick was caught. And as a side note, both Tant and Maffei are white. Vick thought nothing could touch him because to quote him “the whole country loves me” I don’t!

By P** off Falcon Fan

August 21, 2007 1:13 PM | Link to this

You people are amazing! Everyone deserves a second chance. Where was all this anger and judgement when Kobe Bryant was accused of raping that young lady? No crowds stood at the courts house chanting, no suspension from the league….etc. So are animals more important than a woman? YOu people act as if the man killed an entire family! I’m sorry to see any one waste potential and talent. I don’t care who it is. I still will support and pray for Mike and his family no matter what happens. I hope none of you never need a second chance. But then again your name is not Mike Vick. I would love to see him play for the Falcons again but I think Blank has lost respect for him. I hope he does get the opportunity to play football again… and I hope he learns that you have NO real friends in this world. Your loyalty sould be to God first, yourself and your family.

By Dan

August 21, 2007 1:16 PM | Link to this

to an observer re your 1108 comment, I have to say that is one of the more cogent comments, But I ask you, do you perceive the blacks who are supporting him simply because of his color as racist/predjudiced as well?
There are many legitimate reasons to dislike Vick. Just because someone doesn’t like him or finds his actions reprehensible doesn’t make him/her racist or predjudiced. However given the facts that are know, it is very difficult to support him in this unless it is simply due to the color of his skin, which is every bit as predjudiced

By Hunter

August 21, 2007 1:20 PM | Link to this

Hunting, big game or otherwise, is legal. You get a license and it is controlled.

Dogfighting is against the law.

Color is not the issue. Race is not the issue. Race and color are sought as excuses.

He should get a second chance. After he pays for his crimes. He did go to college, for free, that most students had to pay for. Didn’t he learn something that he could fall back on?

MV should have speant more time with Warrick Dunn and less time with his friends from Tidewater.

Dunn will never make as much money as Vick already has made, but yet he is more grounded.

We need more Warrick Dunns and less MVs in this world.

By Harvey

August 21, 2007 1:21 PM | Link to this

I must say, I am disappointed at Vick, was there no one there to guide this young man on the do’s and don’t when you acquire money. I guess everyone was just looking at the money and fame to include his family. Just look at his brother Marcus what he did on the field at VA Tech when he step on someone leg. Where was his mother. She should have been right there or hired someone to teach him how to go about his business. Let’s face it, when ever you are making the kind of money Vick was making you have to get away from people who just there for the ride to include family.

By The Plain Truth

August 21, 2007 1:23 PM | Link to this

A fool and his money are soon parted.

After the lawyers are paid (and you never stiff a lawyer), the IRS goes after him for not declaring the gambling income (taxes, penalities, and interest), and the various states’ departments of revenue do the same (lawyer fees for all) there really will not be much left.

Then of course there are the endorsement contract clauses that have been broken, and I am sure those companies will sue for damages and repayment (more lawyer fees).

The Falcons will sue to recoup losses due to broken contract clauses and the NFL will do so also(more lawyer fees).

Then of course there is the hush money the hanger on’s will demand to keep quiet about things they know that could cause Vick to face additional charges at a later date.

Vick’s troubles have just begun. He will be eating his meals at a mission in 5-10 years and living off of public assistance.

The black sports fans will embrace a new young black athlete coming out of college that excites them (and white fans also) and Michael Vick will be a 60 minutes interview as he sits in a park in old clothes without any prospects, and deny he has any regrets.

He had it all, but there is no cure for stupid. Make no mistake about it, Vick is stupid.

By JH

August 21, 2007 1:24 PM | Link to this

Michael Vick will still have a professional athletic career. The only thing different will be that every time he enters the arena it will be preceded by an announcer saying “LLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEETTTTT’S GET READY TO RUMBLE!!!”

By hot j

August 21, 2007 1:33 PM | Link to this

I know what Mike Vick DID was wrong, and wrong is wrong but he is somebodies child, My heart go out to his MOTHER AND CHILD,don’t be so quick TO turn on somebody,I hope you all CHILDREN NEVER GET TROUBLE, I would hate to see you all on TV standing next to your Child and crying Let’s stop beating up on the man He will be punish for his wrong, We all better stop and think lets not be so quick to hang someone ON the CROSS BECAUSE WE ALL HAVE A CROSS WE MUST BEAR ONE DAY, Let’s pray for he’s FAMILY BECAUSE I KNOW IT’S HARD ON THEM RIGHT NOW. God is THE KEEP OF OUR HEART AND SOUL AND Through Christ all things are possiable and only God can Judge.

By James Carpenter

August 21, 2007 1:36 PM | Link to this

“It’s true America anytime a black celebrity is linked to a crime whether directly or indirectly, the media and America spotlights the event…”

Is that because he is black or because he is famous? I remember an awful lot being made about Paris Hilton and Lindsay Lohan going up on some charges that were no where near as serious as Vick’s. If Peyton Manning went out and did this you can bet the media would be running it on page one too.

By ITS NOT BLACK AND WHITE!

August 21, 2007 1:39 PM | Link to this

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By Disappointed Fan

August 21, 2007 1:42 PM | Link to this

Being a Pit Bull owner for years, dogfighting is one of the most discussing sports in America. Michael Vick is a young man that made some stupid mistakes. He should serve his time and hopefully he get another chance to salvage his career. I’m disgusted with the personal shots people are taking at Michael because they disliked him anyway. I agree that everything you do in life starts with personal responsbility, not passing blame. As an African-American you always hear White America talking about the black community never want to take accept responsibility when a black athlete or entertainer gets intangled with the law. Where was this same outrage from the white community when Bobby Cox slapped his wife, when Danny Heatley killed his best friend in buckhead because he was drunk behind the wheel, Patrick Kearney roommate was rapped while he was sleeping, Ray Lewis was able to play in the superbowl when two young men died in buckhead, leonard little killed someone after his second dui. Majority of the black community think dog fighting is cruel and is torture. I also think sport hunting is cruel as well.

Please do not bring up the OJ case again because you guys did not say a damn thing with robert blake got away with murdering his wife a couple of years ago.

By Human

August 21, 2007 1:45 PM | Link to this

If Moses, David, Peter (all historic Biblical), Bill Clinton, Newt Gingrich, Danny Heatley and Imus can, why can’t Michael Vick?

How many of us look our own parents right in the face and tell bold face lies?

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

By James Carpenter

August 21, 2007 1:52 PM | Link to this

“White people are like… “OK, you (blacks) got OJ off on a murder wrap, you got Don Imus fired too… But we got your QB and it feels soooo good”.. hahaha”

I’ve yet to hear a single person say that. Thats a pretty silly racial stereotype and one that is way off the mark.

By saintsfan

August 21, 2007 1:59 PM | Link to this

I am saddened to see the division this has caused in the city. It’s simple to me, he broke the law, and now must own up to it. However, for people to talk with such venom for another Human Being is very disturbing. Ugly crime - Yes. Sinful activity - Yes. Ability for redemption - Absolutely. I am not going to sit here and defend another man’s criminal act, but I am not going to stoop down to a low level like I heard. Have you ever sinned? One sin is no greater than another. If I were him, the first step is to find out what made him do this and look at the people surrounding him. Pray for forgiveness and use his celebrity to do good. Will that get him back in the NFL? Who knows. But, even if he never steps foot on an NFL field again, he has the right to make a living after doing his punishment. Best to all in GA and the city.

By Greg

August 21, 2007 1:59 PM | Link to this

I am tired of the animal loving hypocrites. Most have no problem eating a hamburger or hotdog or going on a fishing trip. Fat middle-aged men go hunting against defenseless game for trophies or some meat, yet no outrage. You people are hypocrites. Dogs should be served as food just like any other animals unless they are on the endangered list. I want a plate of dog meat for dinner and I won’t feel at all bad about it, just like I don’t with chicken, or steak. Vick should not be vilified for dog fighting. In fact it should not be illegal. Animals fight and kill each other in the wild all the time.

By justbeing real

August 21, 2007 2:03 PM | Link to this

Where was PETA when the White Boy was killing and lynching Black People.The same accusation that are being made about Mike Vick are the same thing that happen to the BLACK.So I guess that Ok Huh !!!

By Dee

August 21, 2007 2:04 PM | Link to this

Really….people, why would I continue to say I am innocent and the world had already convicted me before hearing the story. I would have plead out as well instead of risking the chance of serving more time time in jail over a dog.

By Vick Fan

August 21, 2007 2:12 PM | Link to this

I cannot believe the AJC can allow some of these stupid comments.

Everyone talks about him killing these dogs. But you forget about the Atlanta Thrasher that killed his teammate and got off.

But it is ok for people to KILL DEER. What is the difference? Oh, I forgot it is a WHITE SPORT!!!

Mike, I pray for you and your family and know we will see you again in on a football field in the NFL!!!

By Nobody

August 21, 2007 2:14 PM | Link to this

To all the people that seem to still think Vick is innocent. You are all idiots. There is no conspiracy that people are trying to harm him because of his skin and they want to keep the black man down. He was just a high profile celebrity with a God given gift who threw it all away for a few thousand dollars at some backwoods dog fighting contest. OJ got off and he murdered two people so don’t say it’s a conspiracy against black people. I’m pretty sure you same people were also saying that the Duke Lacrosse kids were guilty from the beginning. You’re probably the same ones that say why not make a big deal about the ref. That ref didn’t make a $130 million, be a role model for thousand of kids around the world, 3 time Pro Bowl selection, and the leader of the Falcons. That’s why it’s so hard for “white people” to sympathize with you because everything is always about race. He wasn’t even that great of a quarter back. He should have been a running back. If Atlanta would have kept their pick we would have had LT.

By msteven

August 21, 2007 2:16 PM | Link to this

DK I loved your post. Nice to hear all whites dont think alike. I am black. I liked Mike Vick. Still do. Have I ever bought any of his memobilia? no. and had no intentions of doing so. hes just a Man to me. nothing more. Heck, I paid $80 to see Beyonce and had a thouroghly good time(by the way she dont fight dogs and is black and is also a millionare.) I am a dog owner/lover. I own four german shepherds. Am I mad at Vick. no. do I hate him no. do i feel he should be punished? yes. prison? perhaps for about 6mons(sorry i have seen folks kill humans get off so please spare me) Should he play football again? I could care less. The man is only 27, he has a whole life ahead of him. If he didnt save any money he made. thats on him. Lets move past Mike and get on with the Rest of the Horrors of the world, ie the MESS in IRAQ. Bring our troops home. I could care less about Mike or any other over paid spoiled millionare monster that the media created. Some one made a good point to Blank. Next time Screen folks background before you sign them to lucruative contracts that may come back and bite you in the butt. He pleaded guilty. punish him and lets move on.

By Baldtexan

August 21, 2007 2:21 PM | Link to this

Hey Wow, learn how to spell. Repeatedly has an “ed” in it. And ashamed has a “H” IN IT. Especially if your going to refer to Martin Luther King.

By Vick Fan

August 21, 2007 2:24 PM | Link to this

No wonder Atlanta is last in everything. It’s always about race and not the team. Everyone deserves a second chance. I pray for him and his family.

By Two Faced

August 21, 2007 2:27 PM | Link to this

Vick is guilty! That’s not the issue here. The issue is some of the comments made by some of the posters here. Some of your comments can be construed as prejudice. (a rapper pretending to be a QB) When did Vick rap? I suppose all black people rap. Or corn rows symbolize a gangsta/thug?! I guess people’s prejudices come to light when they’re angry. All of the pleasantries just drop when the first golden opportunity shows itself. Talk about two-faced.

By Chill out

August 21, 2007 2:28 PM | Link to this

I forgot to mention when he gets out of jail. I’m sure he will go play CFL.

By Give Me A Break!

August 21, 2007 2:37 PM | Link to this

Why is this the number one news story? Can’t the AJC come up with ideas/stories that matter in the world? Ok, if George Bush can forgive Skooter Libby for exposing the identity of a CIA agent which is an act of TREASON, surely we can forgive Michael Vick who has not pleaded guilty nor has he been proven guilty. I hope that the Falcon’s lose all of their games for the way they deserted Vick on this issue. Any team worth their salt would have done what they needed to do to protect Vick. When Vick is exonerated, I hope he leaves Atlanta and plays for the Chicago Bears so they can go ahead and win the Super Bowl. The city of Atlanta does not deserve Michael Vick and may the Falcon’s ticket sales show it!

By Tonya

August 21, 2007 2:37 PM | Link to this

“If Peyton Manning went out and did this you can bet the media would be running it on page one too.”

Oh I am sure but there would be more compassion in the reporting and in the response from America….

Does anyone remember the hockey case where the player killed another player in a car accident in Downtown Atlanta? Did he not get probation? Better yet did not receive open arms upon his return to the game……What about Kobe Bryant??? Where was the media hype and public concern?

Dog fighting is wrong, cruel, etc…I belive Vick should be punished, but to the extent of ending his career.. No… Never, that’s Vick or any other person.. Some newscaster said Vick should receive 5- 10 years.. Heck they don’t give that to child molesters or rapists..

I really believe the vast majority of the Vick “supporters” have an issue with all the media hype and public concern over this case, but when it comes to the more serious issues facing America on a daily basis the vigor is not the same… this goes for celebrities in general.

Vick will do his time and still have more money than most if not all of us on this blog.. So what if he can’t play in the NFL, I guarantee this will not be the last we have seen of Michael Vick… Vick deserves a second chance to make it right, don’t we all? All these people on here acting like that never made a mistake or had a bad judgement.. What if your deeds where put out and because some people or organization was passionate about their cause wanted to destroy your life…

To Vick I say, ignore the ignorance, self righteous fools and wishy washy fans and/or friends.. because one day we all have to be judged and it won’t matter the severity of the “crime”……….. GO VICK!!!! I will continue to keep you and your family in my prayers.

By Today Vick 2morrow it may be you!

August 21, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this

To those out there with the know it all, hard-hearted attitudes and who are seemingly rejoicing in the quandry MV has found himself in, BEWARE. If you have not YET had any gut-wrenching, heart aching life learning experience, KEEP LIVING. I wonder what your attitude would be if you or one of your family members find yourselves in a life-changing situation(that could possibly have been brought on by bad choices), would you still retain the same cold-hearted, unforgiven and full of hatred position as shown towards MV or would you, as I know his family and other love ones are now doing, pray for a little mercy and forgiveness?

I’ll answer that for you, you would want the latter option. It’s easy to pass judgement and make callous remarks when it doesn’t impact you personally. Remember, non of us are perfect (even those of you who think they are), and you better ask the Lord to help you learn forgiveness because I can assure you the day is coming when you will need someone’s forgiveness.

Yes, it’s easy to pass judgment on others BUT it’s easier to forgive others of their failures when you realize that we humans (not animals) are made out of the same ‘dust of the earth’ and formed in the likeness of God, originated from the same source (Adam and Eve), and are capable of commiting the same brutality if not for the grace of God.

By Steve L.

August 21, 2007 2:43 PM | Link to this

The question isn’t whether Mike Vick CAN be redeemed, the question is whether he’s willing to do what it takes to earn redemption.

He’s nearing 30 and has never had to take responsibility for anything he’s done. Whether it was a member of his posse or Arthur Blank himself, someone has always neglected to tell Mike Vick “No”. Whether he’s flipping off the fans at the Dome, blowing off Congress, living and hanging with convicted felons, concocting stories about water bottle jewelry boxes, or whatever, he’s simply given a pass because he (was) the most talented athlete in the NFL.

And now we find out that he maims, tortures, and kills dogs for sport. He does this all with the crew from his hometown, a well-known gang of thugs with whom he should have broken ties years ago. He does it in defiance of state and federal law, and when he’s caught, he lies about it—to his team owner, to his commissioner, and to his fans. Not until he is absolutely cornered, facing years in prison, does he cop to what he’s done. Ladies and gentlemen, that’s not “taking responsibility.” It’s surrendering, and it was his only choice.

So can Mike Vick be redeemed? Sure—as many have pointed out in this blog, anything is possible. But given his lifestyle, his behavior, and his decision making up to this point in his life, it is far from probable.

By 7 Questions about MV7

August 21, 2007 2:47 PM | Link to this

3.You people ask what does “Conspiracy” and “Due process” have to do with the Michael Vick case. I ask what did “Gangster Rap” have to do with the Don Imus debacle.

5.How did Michael Vick “let his detractors down” if they never liked him in the first place?

6.Sure, the argument went from “Due process” to “Wait and see” to “They’re just dogs”. But haven’t we seen this before with your Lord and Savior George W. Bush. The war in Iraq went from “Weapons of Mass Destruction” to “Liberating the people of Iraq” to “Fighting the War on Terror”. True or False?

7.The foundation of Christianity is built on forgiveness. Jesus died for our sins so that we could have life. How could you honestly consider your self a Christian by making the vile, racist, disgusting remarks that I’m reading on this blog. If you do not follow this bench mark, then I guess you are not a REAL Chistian, are you?

By WTF?????

August 21, 2007 2:47 PM | Link to this

Just a reply to some of the earlier posts about pits.

Pitbulls are great dogs when owned by people that know how to handle them. They are not evil and most aren’t even good at preventing breakins and robberies. They’ll let you in and out of a house because a good pit wasn’t bred to bite humans. They can be trained to tho. Whenever you hear about a pit, or any dog for that matter, biting or killing a person its because the owner didn’t know what they were doing 99.9 % of the time. The other % is a mentally defective dog. I have neighbors with 10 lb poodles that attack whenever someone walks by but because of their size it appears cute. Its not. That owner has allowed that dog to get to that point and if that dog had another 10-20 lbs it would hurt someone. Pits by their nature are loving and loyal dogs. However, when put in the wrong hands they can do alot of damage very fast. But so can a car or gun. Dogs like this aren’t meant to be owned by everybody because of their potential and most owners lack of knowledge about working with bully breeds.

If dog owners were required to have licenses and education alot of these incidences wouldn’t occur. America is overrun with dogs bred by people that have no clue what their doing outside of the fact they have access to 2 dogs. Most of these dogs wind up being put down.

Finally, owning a dog is a responsibilty as well as a joy. You owe it to your friends, family, and neighbors to socailize your dog and train it. Only then will you learn what pure love is all about.

By Jude

August 21, 2007 2:53 PM | Link to this

People like this have lived a life of cruelty, mostly to animals and usually because someone did the same thing to them while growing up. It is my only hope that the media’s coverage will help to expose this medieval practice of dog fighting for what it is: torture and neglect that has been handed down, generation after generation, an act that gives false strength to the torturer.

Perhaps in addition to jail time he should be made to care for, and nurture back to health, animals who have fallen into the hands of the wrong people, such as himself. Maybe then the cycle can be broken, at least for one line of human beings.

By DUKE

August 21, 2007 2:53 PM | Link to this

FIRST OF ALL, BEFORE ANYONE THINKS DOGFIGHTING IS JUST DOGS FIGHTING, GO ONLINE AND SEE WHAT IT INVOLVES, JUST LIKE PEOPLE THINK A IRAQI BEHEADING IS QUICK AND EASY THINK AGAIN, GO ONLINE SEE WHAT IT INVOLVES…THEN… MAKE YOUR DECISION. DOGFIGHTING AND C** FIGHTING IS ABSOLUTELY INHUMANE…..

By an observer

August 21, 2007 2:54 PM | Link to this

to Dan from an observer: “do you perceive the blacks who are supporting him simply because of his color as racist/predjudiced as well? “ Dan, I don’t think we could classify them as racist/prejudice. By definition they would not be prejudice, but they would be backers, supporters, or labeled apologist. I still would love to see him play football. That makes me a backer. By no means am I implying anyone should support MV, nor overlook what he has done. What I am saying is that some of the opinions are very personal, typical, and routine in conversation when it comes to race relations. Many issues are divided among racial lines in America. I just get frustrated when whites say we are always pulling the race card. People are just using the wrong term. It is hard for me to believe some of these wicked, dreadful, and vile comments are not motivated by an irrational attitude of hostility toward MV. That goes for everyone who speaks with hatred in their tone about this issue. Speaking with hatred in our tone can easily be perceived as being (racist - wrong word) prejudice. (Take a hint: Perry Larentino - 680thefan)

This is truly a tragedy for the Atlanta Falcons and their fans.

Dan thanks for the intelligent dialogue.

By dturner

August 21, 2007 3:06 PM | Link to this

To “just being real” You made a very stupid comment, I am still in awe about it: You said, “Where was PETA when whites were lynching blacks”? PETA represents animals, are you calling your people animals or dogs ?? I hope neither. Just wanted you to know that you are trying to go waaaaaaaay back as an excuse for MV !! That is really sad !! It just shows you ignorance- go back to school so that you may develop a vocabulary to communicate with other people. Now, THATS BEING REAL !!!

By Sobecat

August 21, 2007 3:08 PM | Link to this

Anyone still supporting Vick needs to take long and hard look at themselves and figure out why they aren’t doing so well in society. I assure you, the two are related.

By Bubba

August 21, 2007 3:10 PM | Link to this

Con Vick is a stupid bro. Is this what a college educated athelete does for entertainment? Where is Rev. Jesse Jackson? How come he hasn’t commented on this subject? I would have to beleive Dr. MLK is totally disappointed and laughing in his grave. I bet Vick’s MOM is proud. Anyone that has supported Vick in the past must feel slighted. What are you season ticket holders going to do now? Are you going to keep supporting the Falcons even though your DOG is going to the POUND? HA HA.

By Diana

August 21, 2007 3:11 PM | Link to this

I once rode on a plane back to Atlanta from Hawaii with Vick. He had been there for the 2005 Pro Bowl. He was flying with a full entourage, some of which I now recognize as the men who stand accused along with him in this dog fighting charge. One of the women sitting across the aisle said they were friends of his from VA. Anyway, a young boy approached Vick and asked him to sign his baseball cap. Vick took the hat and signed it, but he never shook that boy’s hand, he didn’t speak to him, he never even looked him in the face. The boy walked away with a shocked and dejected look on his face, but he got his worthless signature. It was all I could do not to approach Vick and tell him what a worthless non deserving person he was. (My husband literally held me in my seat.)Later Vick and his entourage paraded through the airport looking like a group of street thugs. I asked my husband how this man could possibly be the current hero of the Falcons. So, Mr. Blank, if you didn’t know what kind of man Vick really was, I SURE did.

By zingarella

August 21, 2007 3:18 PM | Link to this

All cowards - they all blamed each other - cowards do that - serial killers have always started this way - killing and torturing animals. How in God’s good name can anyone take pleasure to see anything suffer and die like this? Remember, this is not a race thing, this is a human thing. As Immanuel Kent said, “You can tell a man’s heart by the way he treats an animal.” So far as I am concerned, these men cannot do enough to redeem themselves. Sociopaths - all of them. God forgive them.

By WBAKER

August 21, 2007 3:18 PM | Link to this

Over the past several months, I have responded to “blogs” regarding Michael Vick showing my support. Now that he is pleading guilty on Monday, I AM STILL SHOWING MY SUPPORT FOR THIS MAN. He is just that people, a man, a human being that made a HUGE mistake in judgement and now he has to pay for it…..SAD INDEED.

I have heard and seen too many devasting stories behind these so called mild mannered dogs. I myself was involved with an incident with a pit bull. If I had not picked up my two year old son at that moment, that pit would have mauled him while we sat quitelty on a couch. He could have killed my son. But, it amazes me what the media likes to protray as EVIL. The only evil thing Mike did was continue to have those “criminals” in his life.

One thing I can say about you “white folks,” You know how to keep your mouths shut when you are involved with a rich “black” man. Let’s take Barry Bonds for instance. His “white” co-defendant went to prison before he would snitch on his money maker. Too bad, Mike’s boys couldn’t show him some loyalty.

I pray for Mike, his family and his friends. This is sad people. This is not justice for me. This has ruined a lot of people’s life besides Mike. Like the Falcon’s, let’s see what kind of season they are going to have without Mike. It is going to be just like the old days……

Stay strong Mike. You and your family. I am forever a fan and as a human being, I feel for you in my heart. This is devasting that you will be serving prison time for a dog, but Patrick Kearney can have a woman raped in his home and you have heard nothing else about it. Maybe the AJC will finally start writing about something else.

By Hawk

August 21, 2007 3:18 PM | Link to this

Redemption? My definition is probably different than yours. His basic problem is he is illiterate and uneducated; you can tell by the way he talks and the decisions he makes. His high school & college diplomas are a sham, handed to him because he could play football. His deeds & lack of remorse echoes of a sociopath with no conscience. Our prison system is filled with people just like him, but poorer. His younger brother is a sexual deviant in and out of jail for various offenses. They both grew up without a father figure and with little parental guidance in a low income crime infested area. The result: the brother’s Vick. I would be very surprised to see Michael Vick in an NFL uniform ever again. The league has to look at their overall image 1st and the needs of a screwup 2nd. He will still get his NFL pension someday so it’s not like he’ll have to work anyway. In the meantime let’s get the Falcons & the NFL movng away from their “THUG”ball ways and back to some wholesome family sports entertainment.

By Sobecat

August 21, 2007 3:22 PM | Link to this

Um, Mr. “Give Me a Break”

Where have you been for the last two days?

By Greg

August 21, 2007 3:39 PM | Link to this

Can anyone tell me honestly why dog fighting is illegal? There is not a good reason. We slaughter animals already for fun and also eat them. What makes a dog sacred in terms of not being killed like other animals? Just because a number of people like to make domesticated dogs into cute furry pets, does not make them above a cow, cattle, chicken, or deer. You people are hypocrites. Stop eating meat altogether and outlaw all hunting before whining about Michael Vick and making dog fighting illegal. Dog needs to be served next to your big macs you hypocrites. I am tired of the moral superiority that PETA and a lot of other people try to show when most of them eat meat too and/or hunt.

By July Jones

August 21, 2007 3:44 PM | Link to this

This is as much about race as it is about Dogs.

Early on, Vick was supported by both the black and white communities in Atlanta. Over time, the Falcon’s started to lose games and aspects of his behavior that were overlooked by whites were brought out and criticized. Blacks continued to defend his gangsta image, poor associations and shoddy work ethic - blaming his poor performance on white coaches, bad receivers and cut blocking offensive lineman.

As a white person who is quick to criticize poor athletic performance by any player of any race, I don’t understand the support from the black community. People who never read the detail of the July indictment jumped all over the ‘innocent until proven guilty’ bandwagon with full fury. The NAACP decided that the man should be honored, even though 4 different cooperating witnesses placed him all over a dog fighting & gambling operation that ranged all across the Mid Atlantic states.

Today, after it is all coming out, the black community still makes excuses for the guy.

Can he redeem himself? I don’t think he has to with black folks. I suspect he can with some white folks, but a large part of white America will never forgive him.

Either way, given the way he screwed Arthur Blank, Atlanta and the Falcons, he’ll never play for us again no matter what he does.

By Jake

August 21, 2007 3:46 PM | Link to this

Let me start by saying that I’m very saddened by all the hatred that is on this blog. This is not a racial issue; this is about a man who got caught breaking the law. A man who had so much evidence mounting against him to where they were going to bring new charges against him that he decided he’d better go ahead and admit his wrongs before he was locked up for a long long time. There are a lot of you out there saying it’s just dogs; I certainly hope you are not bringing your kids up that way….it’s just a joint…it’s just stealing something small…..MV committed a crime and will be punished for it, his celebrity status has caused him to be tried in the media unfairly but that’s the price you pay when you sign that contract on the dotted line. Our judicial system is very flawed as is our government as a whole. There is too much conservative or liberal, white or black; this country is a melting pot for all nationalities, races, and cultural differences. It is time we all stop blaming someone else for our flaws, our mistakes and take ownership for our own lives. It’s time we embrace differences in one another and learn from each other. MV does deserve a second chance or third, whichever number he is on now but that will depend squarely on him. He has a choice to make, does he want to take ownership of his life or place blame. He’s an adult, he made a mistake as we all do but he has to understand this was his mistake. MLK Jr. told us “An individual has not started living until he can rise above the narrow confines of his individualistic concerns to the broader concerns of all humanity.”

By Sobecat

August 21, 2007 3:50 PM | Link to this

Bottom line, our streets will be safer. Anyone that would do what Vick did would rape and murder without hesitation if it served them at the time.

By July Jones

August 21, 2007 3:52 PM | Link to this

For all of the black community that supports Michael Vick, what would you think of white people who would stand up and shout their support for Lawrence Powell, Timothy Wind, or Stacey Koon?

(These were the three white guys who beat the crap out of Rodney King).

Were they not men who made mistakes just like Vick? Should they be given a chance to be cops again? Should they be forgiven for their actions since they’ve served their time in jail?

I’d really like to know.

By BoogieOogie

August 21, 2007 4:05 PM | Link to this

Vicks will have to find his own redemption. Since he has been yelling about clearing his good name and how he was completely innocent, I don’t think he will be able to find any redemption anytime soon. As for the NFL, he will never play again. He set up, bankrolled, and supervised an illegal gambling organization with the dogfighting. According to the NFL rules, he is suspended for life. Forget about the Falcons, he will not play for any NFL team. I am more worried about a few organizations declaring him innocent, and their redemption. No matter what color you are, if you decide someone’s guilt, innocence, and if you are going to support them based completely on their skin color, you are a racist. Perhaps it might be wise to step back, read all the facts, think about what you would tell children about what is happening, and change the person’s skin color in your minds eyes before you open your mouth.

By Today Vick 2morrow it may be you!

August 21, 2007 4:48 PM | Link to this

To July Jones, Michael Vick didn’t beat the s*#t out of another human being like those cowardly white cops, now did he? Stay with us, Apples to Apples!

By Today Vick 2morrow it may be you!

August 21, 2007 4:51 PM | Link to this

To July Jones once more, did MV take an oath and promised to uphold the law? Think before you write!