Talk of the Town

By Gene

August 14, 2007 11:38 AM | Link to this

H*ll NO he will be done in Football!

By Sa Vant

August 14, 2007 11:39 AM | Link to this

It means Vick is guilty and those who defended him are the idiots we always knew they were. This, of course, won’t matter to his myrmidons as they will continue to scream “racism!” and to rationalize that this is all a lot of fuss over “just dogs” when boys are dying in Iraq. However, these barbaric cretins must face the painful truth that the thug’s NFL career is over.

By George Clements

August 14, 2007 11:42 AM | Link to this

What would be the purpose of a jail sentence? Vick has already been punished with having to pay huge legal fees and he has lost forever income from significant endorsements. If the purpose of the whole federal case is to stop dog fighting, it has certainly brought attention to the need for better state and federal oversight over what is clearly a pastime for sick minds. What additional value is there in making Vick sit in a federal camp for a few months? The more logical outcome would be for Vick and the NFL to part company permanently. Let this Virginia thug find another way to make a living. Don’t make him a “hero” by putting him behind bars.

By Paul A

August 14, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this

Everyone in this town is sick to death of talking about that moron (Michael Vick). Even if he does get some jail time a team like the Raiders will sign him…. Hell, the Raiders would sign OJ Simpson but the juice don’t wanna work because everything he’d earn would go the families of the people he murdered.

By Francis Gigantic

August 14, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this

I think he will be suspended this year, plus 2 years in jail (guessing). Then he will be directed by the NFL to restore his name, and be under a 1 year suspension review. After then, they will consider renewing him for good behavior. Obviously, he will have to conribute time and money to help dogs and teach kids. Otherwise, the big question is can Vick play baseball?

By BlackGirl

August 14, 2007 11:45 AM | Link to this

Should Vick be punished…yes. Is he a thug because he killed some dogs, well, what about those that kill deer for fun and call it hunting? Are they too thugs or is that word just saved for young black men?

By Fed Up!!!

August 14, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this

It will mean that he is a pathetic dog killing loser who has no future in the NFL and, if I were given my way, no future outside of prison. This type of crime is treated all too lightly. Murder of innocent dogs, after training them to fight each other to the death—its totally barbaric and should be dealt with harshly. Execution.

By Hmmmm

August 14, 2007 11:50 AM | Link to this

See ya’! Wouldn’t want to be ya’!

By Keith

August 14, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this

Sa Vant, I wonder if K-9 lovers like you are horrified when you see ultimate toughman competitions where you have adult men beating each other a few inches away from death. Do you have any pity for that hungry homeless person, as you drive to the store to buy your pet food or spend hundreds at the vet?

Any black male in America with money and fame are targets of the government. Vick deserves whatever he gets.

I grew up in Alabama, where cockfighting, hog-dogging (a dog figting a wild hog), etc., were common and these activities still are. Where is the outrage over this? Vick is a target, because he has become exactly what America does not want him to be. Successful, rich, etc. I’m sure you’d love to lynch him, but even if he never plays another day of football, he’ll still have more money, respect, and love than you ever will.

By hellooooo

August 14, 2007 11:58 AM | Link to this

If Vick is either found guilty or pleads guilty, then he should be punished accordingly. If the NFL has a rule that felons cannot play, then he shouldn’t be allowed to play. I don’t care if he’s pink with purple polkadots, rules is rules. And BG, if a hunter is killing for fun, yes, he or she is a thug… if they kill and then have the meat processed etc., then, no, they are not thugs, they are providers. I don’t think that particular question is color-coded, personally :-)

By Dee

August 14, 2007 12:05 PM | Link to this

I would have to say that Vick time is over in Atlanta. He could play again in the NFL, but to do so he’d have to deal with a long suspension. Plus, any other team that signs him will have to deal with the PR mess of this dogfighting stuff.

By A Falcons fan walks into a bar. . . .

August 14, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this

Vick will play football again, just like Ray Lewis, Jamal Lewis, Tank Johnson, Pacman Jones, and all of the other idiots do too. He will get a 1 year suspension and be back on the field, possibly with a different team to come into town and run right past Keith Brooking.

Vick deserves whatever punishment he was involved in. It doesn’t change the fact that the Falcons are again the worst team in the NFL.

By Sobecat

August 14, 2007 12:08 PM | Link to this

Respect from who? Thug wannabees?

By Sobecat

August 14, 2007 12:11 PM | Link to this

Keith, please explain to me how Denzel Washington, LeBron James, Shaquille O’Neal, Warrick Dunn, Ladanian Tomlinson, Samuel L. Jackson, etc. are being targeted. Thanks in advance.

By Come On!

August 14, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this

I think that Vick’s time is not over in Atlanta…he means way to much to the A. Though I certainly don’t agree with the senseless fighting or breeding of any animal for the purposes of entertainment, i do feel that Vick is a target because he is not the polished black man that the NFL or America likes. I am sad that animals have been treated in such a way as alleged, and am even more sad that Mike has choosen to associate with people no longer on his level. He needs to grow up, and the NFL needs to stop being so political and let him grow. I am sure that Vick will have learned his lesson when he has to run on the field amid a crowd of boos for the next few years. But as they say, “this too shall pass”. The media is hyping this up more than it should be, and Vick will come back strong, and America will all remember why they fell in love with vick… because of his talent. Innocent until proven guilty.

By stormrider

August 14, 2007 12:22 PM | Link to this

Hey Balckgirl Dog fighting and hunting are not the same and I do not have the patience to explain that difference to you. Just be assured you’re an idiot.

By Rick

August 14, 2007 12:23 PM | Link to this

His career is probably not over in the NFL. If released ( I hope ), some team like the Bengals, Cowboys or Raiders will take him.

Keith, I think one of the problems is with people who equate criminal activity with success. Yes, he is rich and he will need it due to the fact he seems to be lacking in common sense. I fault no-one, black or white, for being wealthy and successful as long as long as it was not at the expense of others.

By just sayin

August 14, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this

You people kill me the way you call people thugs. Does that make you feel morally superior to call someone a thug? Are you and your family members squeaky clean? Go ahead,sit up on your high horse and call him a thug. The truth of the matter is he’s richer, more respected and more loved than any of you people who call him a thug. Deep down you wish you could be like Mike.

By Ed

August 14, 2007 12:25 PM | Link to this

For you idiots, yes you Keith, comparing dog fighting to ultimate fighting between people who not only want to do that, for a lack of a better word, I’ll use sport, and get paid for it, they compete to be in the ring. Dogs have no choice and they are killed for bad performances. How stupid can you moronic idiots be and still know how to use a computer? Also, we don’t care about your race, what in the heck does you being a black man have to do with this Keith? You and Vick are the same race…well big whoopee do. Vick going to jail will show others you can be overrated, he is, and overpiad, he is, and have huge a future in sports and money and still screw up royally. You few remaining Vick supports, get him off the cross, okay, he is going down, we need the wood for other causes now. Don’t count on Vick having money forever, the man is about as stupid as a rock, football is the only way he can make money. Do you that inbred brother of his could make his own money? Have you seen Vicks college grades? You people amaze me with you blatant ingnorance and how racist you are, taking up for him for one reason and one reason only, because he is black.

By TonyaC

August 14, 2007 12:26 PM | Link to this

Sobecat:

Thank you. As a black female, I am so sick of people making this about race. He is an idiot who has been given more than enough chances to clean up his act. He wanted to keep the company of criminals…not he gets to be one of them. You are the company you keep.

By loyalvickfan

August 14, 2007 12:26 PM | Link to this

It means nothing to me just as those people who keep hating. I am not an idiot but I do love Micheal Vick. I support him 100% and if he does leave the ATL and play with another team maybe he will have a better shot at winning the superbowl. GO VICK!!!!!!!!!!1

By Ummmm

August 14, 2007 12:26 PM | Link to this

What it means is that the self righteous idiots finally get what they want…. I can’t believe people are so judgemental concerning Vick… I wonder what their judgement day is going to be like… The man did something wrong but does it warrant his career to end?….NO!… If this was an average US citizen… He would still be working at his regular job and if he had to do jail time he could still get out and have the same career/job.. So what makes Vick different? And let’s not forget the many celebrities who were accused and/or indicted for far more serious crimes and were still allowed to work…..Just because idiots in America put celebrities on pedestals and treat them like they are super human.I believe if they are not going to arrest hunters who kill hunting dogs when they don’t perform or other innocent animals…..then leave Vick alone… Honestly folks it’s too much going on in the world for this dog-fighting case to be sooooo big… Some people believe everything they see and read.. These are probably the same idiots who think we are winning the WAR on TERROR!!!!! I am not saying what Vick has been ACCUSED of doing is wrong or cruel but to end his career over it when there is no relation.. I mean it’s not like he is trying to be a vet…..

By Scrappy

August 14, 2007 12:26 PM | Link to this

Keith - Yes, I pity the homeless and contribute to charity. No I am not horrified when I see UFC matches as they are grown men who decide for themselves to do this, just like boxing. They usually tap out anyway and walk away.

Just because you grew up a hick in Alabama that still participates in these type of barbaric activities, doesn’t mean the rest of the civilized world has to like it.

Vick is a target because he was supposed to be a role model, he was supposed to be a leader - and not of organized crime.

You are right he will always have more money than me, but I serious doubt he will have more respect and love.

By NASDAQ

August 14, 2007 12:29 PM | Link to this

Lets be real, this is the NFL and the kid will definately play in the NFL again. There is no way in hell that 32 teams will pass on a tremendously talented athlete that only had one major off the field issue with the law. Did you forget that Lenard Little was drunk driving and hit a car resulting in the person dying, and he was only suspended for 8 games? If a man can take a human life and still find a home in the NFL, fighting dogs damn sure isn’t going to stop a team from picking him up.

By Patrick

August 14, 2007 12:31 PM | Link to this

He will never play with the Falcons. Blank has made that clear. If he pleads guilty I think Godell suspends him for a year or 2. I have a hard time thinking any team would take him after that though. Of course he might ban him for life for the gambling.

By Ralph

August 14, 2007 12:31 PM | Link to this

What doesn’t matter if they were dogs or horses to kill? They were living things and killing for the fun or joy of it, tells me the person or persons have a sick warp mined. Calling these type of people idiots, morons, stupid or even backwards is giving them a compliment. Like any other group or race blacks have good and bad people, going back to the old days and comparing what was done in the old days to today, and using race in Vick case is to justified ignores. I think if Vick was white, brown, or yellow it would be the same or worst. Stop trying to justified an inhuman action Let’s just stop cruelty to animals, period……. Vick was given a change to better and he blow it, so don’t blame white America, or anyone else. What in the world does this case have to do the the boys getting kill in Iraq, this boys are hero, you mornon.

By William

August 14, 2007 12:32 PM | Link to this

We are talking about dogs, if my memory serves me correctly a few years ago we had a NFL star on trial for murder and you did not hear all of this. Jail time is not the answer for this, let the man pay the fine and continue playing football. He has lost all his endorsements and will never get them back. He is being targeted because of who he is, a wealthy black man(I am white). The falcons will probably cut him, but there is a team out there that will pick him up so quick and he will win a super bowl.

GOD BLESS THIS YOUNG MAN AND GUIDE HIM IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION

By Peter

August 14, 2007 12:33 PM | Link to this

HA HA HA…….all you who talk about Vick and add a racial spin here……

Vick is NOT any kind of role model to anyone, except to maybe a guy in prison…..

Why don’t the folks here look at a Tiger Woods as a role model, how about a Hank Aron…either is a very RICH Black guy….. no one is looking to knock them down a notch…..

Why is that ????

Perhaps all you Racist folks of ALL color should be able to figure that out…….DUHhhhhhhhhh !!!!!

By Eddie

August 14, 2007 12:34 PM | Link to this

First of all, did anyone watch 60 minutes on Sunday? Did they see the almost 1 million killed in Darfur where we concentrate no effort? What I am trying to say here is that this deviant sport has long been a southern pasttime. What is the nickname for South Carolina? I still see stars wearing leather and fur. Peta? No matter the color, it is a stupid thing to do. I just feel like there are more pressing issues for our government to use our tax dollars for.

By Elaine Zimney

August 14, 2007 12:34 PM | Link to this

THIS ISN’T ABOUT THE COLOR OF SOMEONE’S SKIN! It is about someone who broke laws by running an illegal dogfighting business and participation in illegal gambling. Just because dogfights are held alot of places by alot of Africian Americans(per African Americans admitting this on the blogs) doesn’t excuse Michael Vick and doesn’t make it right.

He should never play again in the NFL! Roger Goodell should let this be an example to other football players who think that their behavior is above the law!

By Itshisownfault

August 14, 2007 12:35 PM | Link to this

I think ‘Sobecat’ clearly put an end to the agrument that he is young black man who is being persecuted by the establishment… Agree with you sobecat and others such as Tikki Barber, Donovan McNabb, James Blake, Tiger Woods, all rich young black men, who have carried themselves with dignity and for the most part without scandal

By dna

August 14, 2007 12:38 PM | Link to this

Let him serve his sentence pay his price for making the wrong decisions. He can take a year to get the help he needs to deal with this life. After a year he does deserve a chance to win his job back if the NFL allows him that opportunity. It stings now, it will sting next year, but in time people will move on. He still has a lot of good football in him and we would be foolish to let him go and play somewhere else. MV7 had a lot of haters before any of this took place and I hope those people do not win while this man is down. Those are the same people who could have cared less about the Falcons before he arrived.

Mr. Blank we all deserve a chance to correct our mistakes. It is easy to do the right thing when things are going well, but you know the true character of a person when times are tough. MV7 has hurt us, the most loyal Falcon fans, but I for one think after he serves his sentence he deserves another chance.

By bushwacker

August 14, 2007 12:40 PM | Link to this

I heard a lawyer this morning say that if Vick were to plead guilty to the one charge he probably would get off with a fine and proabation since he’s a first time offender. Of course a conviction would mean the end of his NFL career, but if you have $millions already in the bank I think its a no brainer what most people would do, give up the NFL career but stay out of jail and still have my millions. Or risk fighting the charges and even if found not guilty he will never play in Atlanta again! Or fight the charges and get conVICKted and end his career AND GO TO PRISON. Like I said its a no brainer for most of us but we are after all talking about Mike Vick, not the sharpest knife in the drawer!!

By GoodOleGossip

August 14, 2007 12:43 PM | Link to this

Vick will walk if we like it or not! Jail time? yeah right!! He will pay out the pocket and thats it!! He WILL play football and continue making big bucks. He will get paid off the chew toy they made of him once he sues, and be better off than he was b4 all this happened. Thats how it will be!

By The Truth

August 14, 2007 12:45 PM | Link to this

Is everyone on this blog crazy? Do you know how many felons are in the NFL. Tank Johnson has two felony charges and will serve an 8 game suspension and be back in the League. Jamal Lewis has a federal conviction and served 6 months in jail and was suspended two games and is still playing in the NFL. Have you heard of Chris Henry (just to name a few) Vick will get suspended by the NFL and the Falcons will probably let him go (which would be a dumb move) and he will be picked up by another franchise, given a big contract and continue to sell out stadiums. Trust me in a couple of years no one will even care about any of this dog fighting crap.

By Animul

August 14, 2007 12:46 PM | Link to this

Vick likely broke the law, and will likely go to jail for it, will get suspended and lose a ton of money from his contract with the Falcons. He’ll resurface in the Canadian football league, or the Arena league, and then make his way back to the NFL, perhaps.

There are about 60 dogs in shelters in Virginia that are waiting for this mess to end, so the Humane Society can put them down. That is a tremendous strain put on a public service, and those animals will not get the second chance Vick and his co-defendants will get.

Next time you are at the park and see two dogs playing with each other, picture those two dogs multiplied by 30, plus another handful that were already executed, all dead. That is the mess these men have left behind, just so they could get their jollies by watching two creatures fight. It is criminal. It is reprehensible, and they deserve whatever punishment comes their way.

By Jeff

August 14, 2007 12:49 PM | Link to this

Had Mr. Vick ever attended class at Virginia Tech, perhaps he would have expanded his mind to the degree that dogfighting would no longer seem like sport. Shame on Frank Beamer and the Virginia Tech administration for using this child to win games on the field, but leaving him defenseless in the game of life.

By Faefrost

August 14, 2007 12:49 PM | Link to this

I could be wrong on this, but couldn’t “Bankrolling a Dogfighting Operation” be construed as a form of running a professional for profit gambling operation? Something that would result in a lifetime ban from the NFL?

By Whiteboy

August 14, 2007 12:53 PM | Link to this

BlackGirl are you serious trying to compare the killing of deer, to electricuting, drowning, and hanging of dogs. You are an idiot. Kieth, you are just as stupid, lets see a sports event that fighters freely chose to go and make alot of money, versus being hung, shot or any other brutal crime against a dog. True dog fighters do not kill thier animals, except from Alabama like yourself huh there Buba? The only respect Vic gets is from low life trash like yourself.

By Jay

August 14, 2007 12:54 PM | Link to this

Looks like Vick’s snitching homies aren’t so “street” when confronted by the specter of jail.

By brock

August 14, 2007 12:54 PM | Link to this

Blackgirl. Let me tell you the difference in killing deer and killing dogs due to dogfighting since you obviously don’t know. KILLING DEER IS REGULATED AND LEGAL!!!! Dogfighting is ILLEGAL!! What don’t you understand about that? Michael vick should have been funding a deer hunting club and he would still be playing football. But no, He funded a large dogfighting operation(which is ILLEGAL!!) and now he is facing charges.

Stop making this a race thing for crying out loud. You sound ridiculous comparing legal hunting and killing dogs.

By bushwacker

August 14, 2007 12:56 PM | Link to this

George you are dumber than Keith, we don’t prosecute people to prevent the crime from happening again, we prosecute people and put them in jail to punish them for BREAKING THE LAW.

I’ve come to abattle of wits where my opponents are unarmed!

By brock

August 14, 2007 12:56 PM | Link to this

And yes, If you kill dogs for fun, for gambling, for whatever you are a thug. Sorry I didn’t clarify that before.

By Jailwithoutnobail

August 14, 2007 12:58 PM | Link to this

Since 17% of the population commit 81% of the crimes, no wonder Mike Vick will plead guilty. 81%

By bushwacker

August 14, 2007 1:02 PM | Link to this

Don’t you like my comments??

By Jeff

August 14, 2007 1:06 PM | Link to this

If Vick is convicted or pleas guilty, what would the status of his contract be. Could we possibly be saved the huge salary cap hit?

By Brownthrasher

August 14, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this

If Jamal Lewis can plead guilty, and Ray Lewis can cop a plea, and let’s not forget Michael Irvin… then there is hope for Michael. I certainly hope he can put this beind him and play ball again. Everyone makes mistakes and his seem to be not knwing how to part with his friends. I don’t think he slammed the dogs or hung them. I think his money was used and he housed the dogs. But he deserves to play ball again as would any other American having served their time and made restitution.

By Dee

August 14, 2007 1:07 PM | Link to this

Just shows the dangers of being a rich Black Man; because that is what all these chareges are based on; race and NOTHING else!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is just plain ridiculous!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Hustlenomics

August 14, 2007 1:09 PM | Link to this

The case against Mike Vick has allowed peoples prejudices surface to the top. What is a thug? can we get a definition? This case is not about Vick appearance and his on field play. Since he was drafted the team and the NFL checked into his background and save for his co-defendants he checked out clean. He has also done alot of charity work and helped alot of people. He was then rewarded with the richest contract and all hell broke loose. Dog fighting carries amax of one year and most common people get probation and pay fines.Each of Vicks co-defendants are felons and are agreeing that they killed dogs and fought dogs. the conspiracy charge is the more serious and says Vick was involved but not necesarily the murderer of the dogs. If anything he was loyal to disloyal people because if they live off him and use those funds for illegal things he can be liable. You cant choose your family ask Andy Reid, but he erred in choosing freinds. In regard to the dogs peta and the Humane society is suggesting they get killed anyway by puting them to sleep. If you care about dogs alot there are alot that need adoption or also face death, go to your nearest pound and prevent these dogs from dying

By Charles

August 14, 2007 1:09 PM | Link to this

Denzel Washington, LeBron James, Shaquille O’Neal, Warrick Dunn, Ladanian Tomlinson, Samuel L. Jackson, Bill Cosby, Oprah Winfrey, etc are just like any other Negro living in the United States; they have no system of power. They exist because some other system of power authorized it.

If they should be disobedient to that system of power, they will be targeted. As a matter of fact, once an African American has been accepted into the European society on that level, they are monitored.

Just think about it. If African Americans had a system of power that enriched individual Europeans, wouldn’t you think we own them? Remember, they are what they have become because of us. To be honest, they really do own them.

By Johnny Reb

August 14, 2007 1:09 PM | Link to this

Hunting is alot different than putting two dogs in a pit and letting them fight the death. Hunting is more about tracking, being in the right place at the right time and skill. It does not take skill to put 2 dogs in a pit, to attach electric wires to them or hang them, no sport at all. So how can hunting be compared to dog fighting? And yes, I know some fine black hunters, who are skilled at the sport. So unless you put more explanation into your view or comment, then give it up. Open your mind and stop trying to play he black card cause it is bull s**t.

By Lowcountry Bulldawg

August 14, 2007 1:10 PM | Link to this

The Falcons are worse than Houston and Oakland? Come on! Thats funny. Michael Vick is done if he goes to prison for 2 years. That would put him away from the game for 3 years and almost 30. The biggest advantage to Vick is his elusiveness. Hard to work on agility drills in that 10x10 cell. As Falcon fan I hate that it has come to this, but Vick put himself in this situation and at the end of the day we are accountable for our actions wether we are black or white.

By newday

August 14, 2007 1:10 PM | Link to this

Deep down inside the people that hate you hate themselves even more. No matter what decision you make, Michael, I will continue to support you.

By BCR

August 14, 2007 1:12 PM | Link to this

I for one never took up for Vick, but on the same token I didn’t make any judgements from allegations. If he pleads guilty, then he has to face the consequences. I think that most people that did not jump on and condemn before any outcome came about just wanted to let the judicial system take its course like anyone of us would want. I never called anyone racist, but I thought in this country you are guilty until proven innocent, or is that just for some people? To answer the question, I think that the NFL will let him play again, but what team is going to want to deal with that PR mess? So am I an idiot because I wanted to wait for the outcome to make a judgement? If so, what does that say about the “values” that this country is susposed to stand for? Sounds like hypocrisy to me.

By Brownthrasher

August 14, 2007 1:13 PM | Link to this

Mr. Blank, why is Jonathan Babineaux still practicing? Because the NFL said he could. He has a case pending. Mr. Blank, remember Ray Lewis? What about Jamal Lewis? Does Michael Irvin’s name ring a bell? Oh yeah, he is now a Hall of Famer. What do they all have in common. They each had a General Manager who gave them second chances… Michael Vick may be stupid, but he is worth resurrecting.

By dwright86

August 14, 2007 1:14 PM | Link to this

The US Attorney should give him no plea deal. After all his crying about his innocence if he wants to plea guilty then plea and take your punishment like a man instead of trying to weasel out of!

By Chris

August 14, 2007 1:17 PM | Link to this

Right or wrong, Vick risked EVERYTHING to stay true to his “friends”

And first chance they get, they sell him down the river!

The lesson as always - look out for Number 1!

By scott

August 14, 2007 1:19 PM | Link to this

I guess if Vick claims that he was crazy and apologizes he would serve about 3 months for the accused abuse of dogs. Based on the justice reported of below of a woman (non-black) who shot to death her minister husband in the back (he was the father of three children) Let us not forget the “upstanding non-black citizen” that admitted to raping a woman and is getting out of jail after only 6 months.

Please use some logic and spell out how these two crimes against humanity do not deserve more time compare to the years everyone believes Vick should serve?

After spending a total of seven months in custody, the Tennessee woman who fatally shot her preacher husband in the back will be released as early as today. Mary Winkler, a 33-year-old mother of three girls, is expected to be freed from a mental health facility today.

By Bronco 4 Life

August 14, 2007 1:20 PM | Link to this

@ hellooooo, And BG, if a hunter is killing for fun, yes, he or she is a thug… if they kill and then have the meat processed etc., then, no, they are not thugs, they are providers. turn to versus, comcast sports, and espn 2 saturday and sunday morning and tell me when you see…crackas hunting for game, not to feed their family. and its all good. they get nationally televised exposure, big time endorsements, and no threat of PETA coming after them. yet you have this upstanding black man, aka whiteboys threat, doing the same thing and they want to bury him. unbelievable!

By ndadome

August 14, 2007 1:20 PM | Link to this

Personally, I don’t think Vick has enough time left, at age 27, to serve two or three years in prison, then try to come back and play again. He’ll be too old. Also, there is the very real possibility that he’ll be banned from the league. Lying to this Commish doesn’t seem to work real well.

By Jay

August 14, 2007 1:22 PM | Link to this

“…well, what about those that kill deer for fun and call it hunting?”

I’m not a hunter, but there are some fundamental differences between shooting a deer and fighting dogs. As a matter of public safety, the deer population must be controlled. Also, hunters kill deer as quickly and painlessly as possible. They also use the deer for food, so they’re essentially substituting a slaughtered cow or chicken with a slaughtered deer. In other words, deer don’t die in vain.

Dogs that fight, however, do. They often die a slow and agonizing death, after which their carcasses are discarded like trash. Their only purpose is to provide entertainment for those who celebrate violence to mask the pain of their pathetic, empty, dysfunctional lives.

By Roswell Ed

August 14, 2007 1:24 PM | Link to this

If you’ve got the other three

you must cop a plea!!

By Blind Homer

August 14, 2007 1:25 PM | Link to this

If he please - one year home arrest and he plays next year. If he goes to trial - acquitted and he plays next year. Only thing he can’t do is play for the Falcons again.

By P

August 14, 2007 1:25 PM | Link to this

If vick accepts a plea deal it will be for no prison time or like Jamal Lewis 3 months in jail. He will pay the 350grand fine and he will be back in the NFL next year. Let us not Forget in the eyes of the law he is a 1st time offender wheather we like it or not. The other co-defendants all have criminal records and they cant really pay up the fines. If anyone has been in legal trouble b4 u should know that they would rather give u probation a hefty fine to keep you out of jail if u are a 1st time offender!!!!

By Paul A

August 14, 2007 1:26 PM | Link to this

Too bad Matt Schaub is gone. THAT WAS A MISTAKE.

Let MV7 and Ving Raimes clean up dog cages for the next five years. That might begin to approach justice

By Jay

August 14, 2007 1:26 PM | Link to this

Looks like Vick’s snitching homies aren’t so “street” when confronted by the specter of jail.

By freddie watkins

August 14, 2007 1:26 PM | Link to this

when are black people going to stop supporting black people just because they are black vick need to do some time for being so stupid yes i said it and i am black wake up black people

By McDonoughdawg

August 14, 2007 1:28 PM | Link to this

All this fuss about a QB almost 3 years removed from a winning season. Vick is FINISHED in Atlanta. Good riddance, I hope Blank goes after the bonus he paid Vick too. Vick deserves nothing less.

By Patrick

August 14, 2007 1:30 PM | Link to this

What point is it to talk about whether you think the crime is bad. You can’t change the law or the morality behind it. Think about the reality that if he pleads guilty this week and respond to what you think will happen when he does. Read the question in the intro!

By Rod

August 14, 2007 1:31 PM | Link to this

Racism is alive and well on both sides. Its my sad thought of the day. This topic has nothing to do with Vick, actually.

By Sobecat

August 14, 2007 1:39 PM | Link to this

He is being prosecuted because he is a worthless thug. I wonder how many crying race watched Tiger Woods, the most successful young black athlete out there which some of you claim to be the cause for Vick, walked down the 18th at the PGA getting a receiption from a 97% white crowd like he was a hometown hero. Why? Tiger Woods has class. Michael Vick is a worthless thug.

By Goodsand

August 14, 2007 1:39 PM | Link to this

Black Girk, get a grip. Obviously you have never seen two dogs tear themselves apart. Yes, he needs to be punished if he is guilty. This has nothing to do with his color. Are you saying he shouldn’t be punished because he is black?

By O

August 14, 2007 1:40 PM | Link to this

its crazy how your allowed to kill certain animals for sport and not others. regardless if they’re regulated or not. if you look at which animals are regulated and which ones are not, you can see where the racism comes in to play: deer=saltines, dogs=blacks…and i guess that just happens to be a coincidence.

By Shar

August 14, 2007 1:42 PM | Link to this

Not only is deer hunting legal, but it is controlled to limit the killing to the number of deer that exceed the ability of the environment to feed over the fallow season. In other words, getting shot is a faster, less painful death than starving. Also, the meat is used by the hunter. Dog fighting has no intrinsic benefit to the overall dog population, and is closely associated with other forms of violence and criminal activity. It is also savage.

Michael Vick was paid astonishing sums not just to throw a football but to be the face of the football team, the hero who would draw fans and drive merchandise sales. He fully understood that, and he voluntarily signed the NFL code of conduct. He has repeatedly disappointed Falcons fans with poor behavior off the field, and instead of promoting enthusiam and loyalty to the team he gave the fans the finger. This latest incident, if proven or acknowledged to be true, has made it impossible for Vick to generate the fan enthusiasm sufficient to justify his salary. He will have broken his contract with the Falcons, with the NFL and broken federal law. None of this is race-specific, and all of it was by his own choice. Any team that picks him up (and I agree that, with the NFL’s lack of moral leadership, there will be teams that consider him) will have to balance what he can do on the field with the damage he will do off of it.

I am interested, though, in the comments of loyalvickfan @12:26. You say that it doesn’t matter what he does, you will always love the man. Given the behavioral problems, the lack of respect, the poor judgement and the arrogance that Vick has demonstrated, I don’t understand the basis for your admiration of him, or your steadfast loyalty. Can you explain why you feel so strongly? Thanks.

By elayn43

August 14, 2007 1:44 PM | Link to this

Why should Vick get a PLEA DEAL when the dogs didn’t?

By The Truth

August 14, 2007 1:46 PM | Link to this

Honestly I could care less about dog fighting or deer hunting, but to clarify for you idiots. Morally they are the same thing except one is killing innocent dogs and the other is killing innocent deer. So if you hunt deer for sport you are no more right or wrong morally than someone who dog fights.

If Aurther Blank cuts Vick if he cops a plea, It would be a terrible move that would set the franchise back for at least 3 years.

By ELIZABETH JOHNSON

August 14, 2007 1:49 PM | Link to this

I think that if he goes to jail he will never play ball again dogfighting is a felony and the falcons owner will not want the bad publisity and you wouldnt either ,he has made a bad dicision in life and if charge he will have to pay the consiquence what was he thinking!

By Rusty

August 14, 2007 1:52 PM | Link to this

What does this mean? Well it means alot of things. First thing that comes to my mind is that if MV were to plead out then he would be an admitted sub-human lowlife POS and all yall “they just dogs,let Mike play, boycott Nike” chanters would now look like FOOLS.

By Roswell Ed

August 14, 2007 1:55 PM | Link to this

Say it ain’t so Ookie, say it ain’t so!!

Pfunk, Q and T are rolling on you like a gator with a DOG in his mouth.

You know what they say. You lie down with dogs and you wake up with fleas.

Let’s play password-

STUPID-__

By BeachBum

August 14, 2007 1:56 PM | Link to this

That he’s GUILTY. Now that his co-defendants have caved, he knows he’s screwed. Time to fess up, Big Mike.

By aa

August 14, 2007 1:57 PM | Link to this

I think he will get like 6 months to a year in jail, suspended from the NFL for one year, and traded from the Falcons.

By fred82

August 14, 2007 1:57 PM | Link to this

why do blacks support other blacks even when they do things wrong vick was wrong . he need to pay for that i am a black male and thats the way i feel

By HOUDAWG

August 14, 2007 1:58 PM | Link to this

This SOB is finished ! End of game, folks …… he won’t get out of this, will serve jail time. AND, will NEVER play another down in the NFL ….

What an unbelieveable freakin’ IDIOT !!!!

By hellooooo

August 14, 2007 1:58 PM | Link to this

Brock’s comments are right on the money … and it doesn’t matter what color your skin is or how much money you have, whether the illegal activity is dogfighting, drug pushing/running, or access to the USofA… if it’s illegal, then, by God, it’s illegal and should be punished. UnfortunatelY because MV has plenty of money, HE will be able to buy … erm, excuse me … get a better deal by pleading out than someone with lesser money and/or fame could bu… get. It’s NOT, in my most humble opinion, because he’s Black and Successful and Rich but because he flaunts that Black and Successful and Rich “title” to act as if he is above and beyond the reach of the law. THAT’s the role model that blacks, whites, asians, hispanics and anyone else you can think of see when someone, NO MATTER THEIR RACE OR OTHER IDENTIFYING CRITERIA, of the public status of a Michael Vick puts themselves in the public eye and commits a crime… and then expects to just slough it off as if it were “nothing”. The Barber twins, Tiger, Denzel, just to name a few that have been mentioned, don’t go out, at least so far as we KNOW, and do stuff that is blatantly illegal, not to mention cruel and evil, just for a buck…they are aware of their status and how they affect others as role models, as do, say, Phil Mickelson, Zach Johnson, Sean Connery, Matt Damon, etc. etc. I could change the facts and put lindsay lohan up as a NEGATIVE role model with the same disdain that I have for Mr. Vick’s behavior. She’s rich, famous, relatively successful, but she keeps breaking the law. Because somehow she has been lead to believe, or has come to believe, that she is above the petty little things that the “common folk” are subject to… like laws, decency, respect.

Yes, there are other Football Players who are criminals… and as any criminal activity is revealed, it should be pointed out to our youth of all colors and ages that “THAT AIN’T THE WAY TO GO!!!”

I don’t hate Mr. Vick for being Black, Successful and Rich. But I don’t respect him for the way he’s handled himself, for his activities that are blatantly illegal, cruel, disrespectful, and frankly, evil. I respected him just fine until he started showing out, over and over again, that he thinks he’s better than anyone else.

He isn’t. He’s just another person. And he doesn’t live up to his potential. As a person. IMHO

By mars

August 14, 2007 1:59 PM | Link to this

Hi! Michael Vick fan here. I was overwhelmingly proud when the Birds maneuvered to acquire him. However, over time this man I admired has engaged in truly destestable acts that have left me incredibly disappointed and digusted. As much as I have hoped that all this was nonsense, and our man could not be involved, I now have to admit that the evidence is pretty overwhelming. Case in point, if he is considering a plea deal, he is implying his own guilt. You simply don’t deal innoscence. And that means instead of being my hero, he has turned out to be a lowlife THUG, who can’t let success interfere with his desire to be a criminal. Yes, Blackgirl, I wanted him to be innoscent, but he would rather be a peice of trash. He did it. Him. He had the keys to the kingdom and threw it all away. Don’t let your blind racist attitude drive you to support this man whom you should be ashamed of.

By Irritated

August 14, 2007 2:00 PM | Link to this

Stop pulling the “race card” people.

Dr King’s dream was that his children would “one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.”

Animal cruelty is about lack of character not culture or race. Vick has no character. Show some character yourselves people and stop playing victims and sticking up for the black criminal, because he’s black like you.

By Well

August 14, 2007 2:01 PM | Link to this

If convicted of these charges his days should be over in the NFL. Not for the animal cruelty charges but the illegal gambling associated with the activity.

Plus Vick will also face state charges (possibly in more than one state).

By Just wondering?

August 14, 2007 2:09 PM | Link to this

If Vick was a white boy from the “Great” University of Georgia with exactly the same issues, I do think the posts would be different. If you disagree, you are probably diluted to some extent.

Go ahead and run him out of town right into the next town’s open arms. If you think that every team with a qb need won’t be lined up with a positive pr spin and contract in hand to meet with Vick, you are even more diluted.

Once America feels Vick has suffered enough, football fans will forgive him, beginning with the fans of the new team. Watch the celebration when Vick humbly arrives in his new city.

The only player with Vick talent in the NFL is Vick … period. And that talent is simply not tarnished enough for him to lose to the extent that some want him to. If he’s smart, he will rise again. If he doesn’t learn, something like this will probably happen again. Simply put, it is going to take more than a dog fighting conviction to permanently sour the whole sporting world forever on Mike Vick.

Sorry, but that is the truth. And I am a white dude. A Former season ticket holder who didn’t renew because there is nothing worth seeing this year.

When the dust settles and the smoke clears, it will be Vick running up the sideline of the Dome for his new team in front of the only sold out crowd all year (because Vick is playing) just like Prime Time did.

I hear people say Blank is a businessman and won’t put up with this. Blank is a business man and is not about the take the only product off the shelves that brings people to the store in the first place.

NOw I know why people think I’m stupid when I say I am from the south. Most of you are just that … just plain stupid.

By ScoobySnacks

August 14, 2007 2:11 PM | Link to this

Regardless of whether he is guilty or not, a plea is probably his only choice now. Too bad no matter how you look at it. If you look at it, up until you read the indictment no one would have considered Vick a bad PERSON. That is why he had all the endorsements to begin with. I still don’t think he is a bad person. MAYBE NOT A RHODE SCHOLAR. But not evil.

By Fung

August 14, 2007 2:11 PM | Link to this

“He vicked up”

Standard expression in the future.

By Patrick

August 14, 2007 2:14 PM | Link to this

Vick should be banned from the NFL regardless of what his sentance is. Working out a plea deal is an admission of guilt in my book, and he should be behind bars for an extended period of time. Vick has a problem and will almost certainly return to his past dog fighting activities.

By Charles

August 14, 2007 2:14 PM | Link to this

By Sobecat

August 14, 2007 12:11 PM | Link to this

Keith, please explain to me how Denzel Washington, LeBron James, Shaquille O’Neal, Warrick Dunn, Ladanian Tomlinson, Samuel L. Jackson, etc. are being targeted. Thanks in advance.

I don’t know about the AJC, but I think my response below is perfect.

Denzel Washington, LeBron James, Shaquille O’Neal, Warrick Dunn, Ladanian Tomlinson, Samuel L. Jackson, Bill Cosby, Oprah Winfrey, etc are just like any other Negro living in the United States; they have no system of power. They exist because some other system of power authorized it.

If they should be disobedient to that system of power, they will be targeted. As a matter of fact, once an African American has been accepted into the European society on that level, they are monitored.

Just think about it. If African Americans had a system of power that enriched individual Europeans, wouldn’t you think we own them? Remember, they are what they have become because of us. To be honest, they really do own them.

By jack

August 14, 2007 2:15 PM | Link to this

have of u trailer trash don’t know what a thug is. so stop using the word. dog lover. their are not human.

By onnooneside

August 14, 2007 2:18 PM | Link to this

Remember people those long-azz comments will NOT and I repeat NOT be read. The long comments are so boring. Just keep your comments to the point, well ya!!!!

By Vick Supporter

August 14, 2007 2:19 PM | Link to this

Well, it looks like he’s going down. I really hate to see this happen, not just because he’s my favorite athlete, but because I sincerely care about people. Most of the athletes we love aren’t perfect people like we expect them to be, and Mike Vick was not. I still don’t condemn him, and I wouldn’t condemn a white person over this either. I understand that this is a serious issue, but it’s still not rape, murder, more serious issues that we don’t deal with enough in America. I see from this blog that white america is very happy about this, and it pains me to see that you’re so happy to see some one go down when your own lives aren’t perfect either. That’s what’s so sad about our country. We love to see people fail. Once again, I’m not saying that dogfighting isn’t bad, but this isn’t the worse crime that a person can commit, yet people are treating it like he murdered or raped someone. I just hope he gets to play again. Not only for me, but for all of the people in their lives that have made a mistake and were able to redeem themselves, i.e Kobe, Ray Lewis. I’m praying for him, unlike the people who spew so much hate on these blogs. I believe in forgiveness, and I wish everyone else would do that also. This is truly a sad story. White folks, you can say want, take joy out of this and celebrate someone else’s downfall, however you want to do it. You can say whatever you want about my blog posting, I see you love the “thug” word, but I’m praying for him, which it seem like the people on this blog would never do. If you get joy out of stomping on someone who’s made a mistake and throwing trash on them, maybe you need to look at yourself. Mike Vick, keep your head up and just know that there is NO LOYALTY in crime. We love you Vick

By EW

August 14, 2007 2:24 PM | Link to this

The falcons were 7 and 9 last year with Vick, what’s the bid deal? Some of you proVick idiots act like the man has taken the Falcons to the Superbowl, he hasn’t. He was next to last in passes completed in the NFL in 2006. His first year as QB…yes, a ton of potential, but it’s been going downhill since. First QB with 1,000 rushing? Big deal, that’s for a runingback to do , NOT a quarterback. He is nowhere in the same league as Peyton Manning or Tom Brady as far as a passing QB is concerned. Vick is the single most overrated and overpaid person in the NFL. The heck with Vick, he is sooooooo history. Vick does not have it between his ears to be a great QB, he is not intelligent enough to read the playbook and learn, he is too dumb. Listen to Mike Vick talk, he needs subtitles, the man is dumb, very dumb. Look at his college grades. Again, the man is not only dumb off the field, he is just as dumb on the field.

By G

August 14, 2007 2:24 PM | Link to this

He will play again!!! that is guaranteed !!! u can take that 2 the bank!!! The media has made a big deal out of this , he will get a suspended sentence in a form of probation and 250Grand fine!! or maybe 3 months in jail. The NFL will suspend him for 08 but he will be back in the dome with another team and that game will be so hyped by the same idiots who are overblowing this story now!!!

By Sobecat

August 14, 2007 2:25 PM | Link to this

Jack, English please.

By Falcon 4 Life

August 14, 2007 2:29 PM | Link to this

Dogfigthing is illegal and if anyone, pleads guilty should be punished. Should Vick serve prison time for it, NO!! This is where America needs to get some perspective. I would rather see Vick on the street than Mary Winkler, woman who shot her husband in the back with a shotgut who only served a total of seven months in prison that could be released today I think that says alot about our society, shoot your husband in the back serve less than a year, participate in dogfighting and gamble, serve prison time, pay a fine and be hated for the rest of your life in America. If he pleads and pay his debt to society why should he lose his job or anyone else in America.

By Pfd9000

August 14, 2007 2:29 PM | Link to this

The ConVICK should go to prison. He is a violent threat to society and needs to be locked up. He has no right being in the NFL and being a role model for children. What a waste of talent, and now he’s taking the easy way out. Fight it Vick… Spend months in court only to lose. That way the sentance will be more severe. Maybe in prison Bubba and his buddies will make you fight. CRIMINAL

By Charles

August 14, 2007 2:29 PM | Link to this

Long comments do indicate that one has some continuity in thought.

I love long comments if they make sense.

By Sara

August 14, 2007 2:30 PM | Link to this

Jack, was the second grade really that difficut that it forced you to drop out? Of all the post thus far, yours stands as the one who raped the Kings English the most. Public school was, for the most part, free of charge. Why didn’t you take advantage of the opportunity? Go back Jack and complete the second grade, the laughs will stop after a few days. Okay, a few weeks.

By Innocent

August 14, 2007 2:31 PM | Link to this

What about Dick Cheney? He shoots people.

By ATLBoy

August 14, 2007 2:31 PM | Link to this

I am sad that animals have been treated in such a way as alleged, and am even more sad that Mike has choosen to associate with people no longer on his level. However, I think that many people rushed to judge him, especially that dumb jackazz Terrence Moore. The truth of the matter is Vick was a black man in one of the racist states and towns in America making too much money. Why aren’t we going after the people that did public lynchings of blacks along with taking photos of their victims? Our values and beliefs in America are twisted. Vick also didn’t fit the look of a polished black man who made millions of dollars. The problem was Vick looked like many black guys that you can find in any inner city neighborhood in America. I wonder how hard it would be for Oprah if she looked like an unpolished black woman. How far would she have gone? Would she have made it to Billionare status? Would she be as much of an American Icon to white woman as she has been for over 20 years now? If Vick doesn’t play, everyone will get there wish in Atlanta who was so much against him from the moment he didn’t take the team to the Superbowl. For all of the other posters please don’t put him in the same category as OJ Simpson, because fighting dogs can’t even compare to the killings of two human beings!!!!!

By john

August 14, 2007 2:31 PM | Link to this

forget thug what about animals…… they are the people that ruin our neighborhoods. anyway mike vick is not a good qaurterback. he’s awful. he can run but cannot throw. plus he’s stupid.

By B-Love

August 14, 2007 2:33 PM | Link to this

I think everyone has to consider the gambling aspect of this whole situation. If gambling is one of the charges he pleads guilty to, then that could end his NFL career.

Believe me, I hate this dirtbag more than anyone but if gambling is not an issue here, he should be suspended by the NFL for a year, maybe two and then reinstated. A man still has the right to earn a living….Just not with my FALCONS!!!!……

By threedeep

August 14, 2007 2:33 PM | Link to this

any response for 7 months in jail for cold blooded murder or 6 months for a rape. I guess those crimes are different; where is the public outcry for these actions?

By Rusty

August 14, 2007 2:33 PM | Link to this

@ Vick supporter, “we love you Vick”? WTF lady, wake up and smell the barbarianism! Anyone,anyone, white or black that gets his jollies from seeing animals fight to the death, has no place even breathing the same air as normal society. You are a “they just dogs” FOOL!

By LD

August 14, 2007 2:34 PM | Link to this

IDIOTS!!! Vick is in so much trouble because he went across state lines!!

THAT’S WHY THE FEDS STEPPED IN

I’m a black woman (biracial actually… dad’s white, mom’s black) and I don’t believe Vick’s behavior toward his fans would make me continue to love him. How can you shoot a bird at your fans and expect them to still accept you? I see the narrow minded people who dont mind being disrespected when they are the ones putting money in his pockets.

I, for one, have 1 pit and I love her with all of my heart! She’s a great dog and to think that people do these types of things to them, p** me off!

Too bad we dont live in the Middle East… An eye for an eye!

By Erik

August 14, 2007 2:35 PM | Link to this

attn: KEITH, Sounds like we should be keeping an eye on your activity too. Watch your back.

By Sweet Ebony

August 14, 2007 2:37 PM | Link to this

Black or white, listen up. If you can’t do the time then don’t do the crime.

By B-Love

August 14, 2007 2:38 PM | Link to this

Charles,

You’re an idiot….

By mars

August 14, 2007 2:38 PM | Link to this

The word thug has been most commonly throughout the 20th century associated with the Mafia, the “Mob”, The Ku Klux Klan, Gangsters, Bullies, or anybody who gains from the suffering from others. It is nothing to be proud of, and has nothing to do with race.

By Vick Supporter

August 14, 2007 2:38 PM | Link to this

Just wondering, that was a hilarious post. I can just see that. The only sell out of that season, to see Vick, and he’s running and throwing all over our a* with another team. If that happens, I’ll definitely be there. That would be a site to see.

By loyalvickfan

August 14, 2007 2:39 PM | Link to this

I SUPPORT MICHAEL VICK!!!!!!!!!!

By mars

August 14, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this

And by the way, dictaters and despots are considered thugs as well.

By peace

August 14, 2007 2:41 PM | Link to this

FIRST OF ALL I’M SO SICK & TIRED OF PEOPLE LABELING THIS MAN AS A THUG. OUR PRESIDENT IS A THUG. WHY? OUR COUNTRY IS ENGAGING IN A SENSLESS WAR OVER GREED & POWER. INNOCENT PEOPLE ARE BEING KILLED EVERYDAY FOR WHAT?? THE SOLIDERS DONT EVEN KNOW. MIKE MADE A DUMB MOVE BOTTOM LINE. EVERY PERSON ON THIS EARTH HAS MADE A DUMB MOVE & STILL DOING DUMB CRAP. IF HE IS A THUG & THE SCUMB OF THE EARTH SO ARE WE DAMMIT!!!! LEGAL OR NOT KILLING & HARMING ANY LIVING CREATURE FOR ANY TYPE OF GAIN IS HORRIBLE. I DONT WISH ANYTHING BAD FOR HIM. THIS SITUATION THAT HAS OCCURRED PROBABLY IS A GOOD THING SO HE CAN GET HIS SELF TOGETHER, DISMISS PEOPLE IN HIS LIFE THAT WAS NOT FOR HIM & SURROUND HIMSELF WITH POSTIVE MINDED PEOPLE & GET ON THE RIGHT PATH TO HIS DESTINY & PUT THIS FOOLISHNESS BEHIND & GO FORWARD WITH LIFE. WE ALL HAVE TO GROW & LEARN TO GET TO THAT MATURITY LEVEL THATS PART OF LIFE. SOMETIMES IT TAKES LOOSING EVERYTHING TO GET TO THAT POINT. BY THE POSTING ON THIS BLOG WE HAVE ALOT OF IMMATURE & COLD HEARTED PEOPLE ON THIS BLOG TRYING TO JUSTIFY PERFECTION. FIND JESUS & REMOVE THE FILTH OUT OF YOUR HEARTS!!!

By Sgt. Fury

August 14, 2007 2:44 PM | Link to this

We have some who revel in Vick’s downward spiral because he is black. We have some who hold him up as some kind of personal Jesus because he is black. We have dead and tortured dogs and Vicks friends are not the kind of guys who ANYONE would let take care of their grandma, no matter what they tell themselves. What does all that mean, I don’t know either but I do know that no matter what color your skin is there is one simple truth in life; Wrong is wrong no matter if everyone is doing it. Right is right even if you are the only one doing it.

By B-Love

August 14, 2007 2:45 PM | Link to this

Just Wondering,

You act like Vick is one of the best qb’s to ever put on shoulder pads…He is a talented runner but he will never be a super bowl caliber qb. He is an average qb at best. There were 19 qb’s in the league last year who had a better rating than he did…..including Jon Kitna…

By Vick Fan

August 14, 2007 2:45 PM | Link to this

I am a little confused here…..Dany Heatley killed someone, a person, while drunk driving…he gets probation and is allowed to play hockey. Mike Vick has not been found guilty of anything and everyone hates him. Get your head out of the Georgia red clay. You can go to the North Georgia Mountains and there are dog fights happening. I am not saying that it isn’t cruel, but let’s be realistic. Just like Heatley was forgiven for KILLING his teammate, Mike should be forgiven. If he takes the plea, just like any other individual-black or white-that makes a horrible mistake he should be allowed to redeem himself and make a living at his chosen career.

By A Falcons fan walks into a bar. . . .

August 14, 2007 2:50 PM | Link to this

Has any player ever been banned from the NFL? You guys are kidding yourselves to think that Vick will get a lifetime ban, on a first time offense, when there are so many other criminals in the NFL and in America in general. This guy serves a one year suspension, goes to another team and picks on DeAngelo Hall downfield all game long when he comes back to Atlanta.

By David Duke

August 14, 2007 2:52 PM | Link to this

Vick, once out of prison, will never play in the NFL again. He may land a job in the Arena League but he’ll find that he hasn’t the talent to compete there either. He’s done if football. Hope he saved some of that money.

By Pookie

August 14, 2007 2:53 PM | Link to this

People,

If your defense for Vick is “well, people are doing a lot worse crimes” then you seriously need to look at yourself…He broke the law…he did it across state lines….he chose to wager hundreds of dollars with the risk of losing millions…..he’s an idiot…he deserves whatever he gets.

By Bill

August 14, 2007 2:57 PM | Link to this

WASP here. I think the issue that will keep Vick out of the NFL will be the gambling. Sports don’t like that very much; ask Pete Rose. As for the dog fighting, it is tragic, but there are far worse things going on in the country today. Just look at the recent shooting in Newark.

By Diane

August 14, 2007 2:59 PM | Link to this

To understand, just understand NOT condone, the horrible blood sport of dog fighting, do a little research. View the films the FBI and other law agencies have confiscated and you’ll that 90% of the ‘audience’ of these horrible fights are blacks, many even bring their families to see the fights, their own kids. I am in no way saying all black people condone this behavior, no way….but the majority of those who fight these pitiful dogs and pay to wacth the fights are indeed black.

By just sayin

August 14, 2007 3:00 PM | Link to this

Irritated, you just irritated the hell out me with that comment. Killing living creatures is wrong whether it’s legal or illegal. You people are so hypocritical. I can’t help but wonder if all this venom would be spewed if Peyton Manning, Carson Palmer or Tom Brady were accused of dog fighting

By mars

August 14, 2007 3:05 PM | Link to this

Amen, Pookie. And everyone should remember that he participated in his “mistake” over a peiod of several years. That’s nothing you can say ‘Oops’ about. I believe anyone can make a mistake and be forgiven. But this appears to be more of a lifestyle choice. It’s not like he got drunk with his buddies and accidentally drove into a dogfighting ring.

By David Duke

August 14, 2007 3:09 PM | Link to this

There no longer is any debate about whether Vick is a thug. That question has been answered several times in the affirmative!

By Tami Sims

August 14, 2007 3:09 PM | Link to this

Why plea if you are innocent?? I love Vick and i think that this is a wrong move despite what the other defendants are doing. OJ got off and he obviously did it!! HA! (by the way, yes i’m black!) I will support Vick all the way and if the Falcons don’t want him then it’s their loss!!!! That’s why Atlanta teams lose so much they don’t have loyal fans!!! And soon as the fans turn so does the management and we have teams like the Hawks. You say who are the Hawks…. our losing basketball team with no fans!!! If Vick is no longer a Falcon it might as well not be a team!!

By BCR

August 14, 2007 3:11 PM | Link to this

WWJD?

By ATFF

August 14, 2007 3:11 PM | Link to this

A Falcons fan walks into a bar… . Your an idiot. I read your replies each week and all you ever do is blindly support Vick. Vick has rarely picked on anyone in his 6 years in the NFL.

By Marc Wolf

August 14, 2007 3:11 PM | Link to this

More than anything else that I am feeling about Michael Vick is sadness. Here was a young man who gave our town so much excitement and hope for our franchise and made some terrible choices. Because he is the face of the franchise the scrutiny he has faced is more than your average NFL player would have come under but that is not an excuse. I don’t think we will see Mike Vick in an Atlanta Falcons jersey ever again but chances are real good that we will see him in prison attire. Sadness is all I am feeling right now!!!

By metoo

August 14, 2007 3:14 PM | Link to this

all of you taking up for vick ARE thugs! hip hop idiot thugs with your damn pants around your fricking ankles…THUGS! vick should go to prison for life, have all his money taken away and be done with him. and the falcons will be better without him. who likes going to a game and have to listen to hip hop noise blasting out while watching “gangsters and thugs” who THINK they are cool? i say load the prisons up with them.

By Paul A.

August 14, 2007 3:14 PM | Link to this

TO: Vick Fan August 14, 2007 2:45 PM

Truthfully… Danny Heatley was speeding when he crashed his ferrari on Lenox Road but HE WAS NOT DUI.

BTW… He still plays NHL.

By Falcon Fan from 65

August 14, 2007 3:14 PM | Link to this

If Vick cops a plea and pleads guilty, then the following have occurred:

How can you people continue to support someone who has such little regard or respect for you so as to lie to your face? Hid moral compass is so out of whack, he may never straighten it out.

P.S. Shame on you Mama Vick for raising two such fine pillars of society.

By History Of Dogfighting

August 14, 2007 3:23 PM | Link to this

White people started dogfighting, white people bred the pitbull not black. So all of those who are saying its a black thing, its not. Deer are legal to kill, dogs are not. Your arguments are dumb, he broke the law, end of story. Do something better with your lived then standing up for a million dollar man and help the innocent girl murdered in her community by thugs, or the Harvard football player killed for his cell phone. Stand up for something worth it, not Vic who broke the law and is going to get punished for it.

By john

August 14, 2007 3:25 PM | Link to this

Vick=Thug

By Steve

August 14, 2007 3:27 PM | Link to this

To the people still using the “he hasn’t been convicted” argument…a plea bargain is an admission of guilt. The feds no longer need to prove anything because he admitted he did it.

By Tami Sims

August 14, 2007 3:27 PM | Link to this

Quit HATIN!!!!!!!!!!!

By Matt

August 14, 2007 3:30 PM | Link to this

Get your facts straight: HE WAS NOT DRUNK YOU IDIOT!!!!

By LA Cilk

August 14, 2007 3:33 PM | Link to this

Will he play football again ? Yes, Especially if he 1. Donate 1 Million to the Animal Rights Organizations, apologize, and have Spike Lee do a short PSA of him admitting his errors in past judgement. 2. Agree to serving time in the offseason. 3. Get some unconditional mentoring from Bill Cosby for a year. 4. Hire me to create a new public image of you that would rival that of a Tiger Woods. Truth be told, 2 Million on my family’s books, and I’d Do 5yrs. of Fed Time for you Mike.

By Mark

August 14, 2007 3:33 PM | Link to this

I’d like to say that I am surprised by the stupidity of the people that support Vick, but I am not.

I would like to say that I am surprised by the level of stupidity in some of the replies to those supporters, but I am not.

I only have one thing to say in all this … those of you that keep saying this is all about race cheapen that argument for future incidents where such an argument is warranted. It’s like the boy who cried wolf. You can’t pull the race card every time an African American finds himself or herself in trouble with the law and expect that those claims will be taken seriously. People will start to turn a deaf ear to your cries … and one day, when a real injustice has occured, no one will be listening and that will truly be a shame.

By WOW

August 14, 2007 3:35 PM | Link to this

This blows my mind. The fact that race has even come into this argument. Even more than that though is who is bringing it into the argument. People want equality but then they want to “play the race card” when it benefits them. You can’t have both.

Now to Mike, he is an idiot. He has shown us that THREE times this off season alone. The last of which is finally going to bite him in the A$$. First he gave the fans the bird, (I don’t remember the order of the next two) regradless then he got caught with a suspisious bottle in the airport, then he missed a ceremony for him in D.c. Seriously how dumb do you have to be to miss a ceremony in your honor that is getting big time press covereage when all you need is positive spin. Then as if all of this wasn’t enough he went and got indicted for fighting dogs. It truely blows my mind that anyone would stand behind him at this point.

Finally about him playing again. I think that you need to look at the difference between the old NFL commissioner and Mr. Goodell. Mr. Goodell won’t take and flack off of anyone. Vick was the NFL’s marque player, the biggest contract, most jersey sales, all that jazz, but he couldn’t keep his nose clean. Now he has brought shame not only to himself, but the NFL, the Falcons organization, and the City of Atlanta. I say run him out of town on a rail. I will gladly stand in line to help. He doesn’t deserve Atlanta, we all deserve so much better than this.

Yes I said we ALL deserve better. He doesn’t even put us in a position to win a Super Bowl.

Atleast we will get a top 5 pick next year…

By Mark

August 14, 2007 3:39 PM | Link to this

Vick fan, you’re wrong, Heatley was not drunk driving. At least get your facts straight if you are going to make such an argument.

By Ismelltrollers

August 14, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this

Dear “VickFan” Let me help clear up your confusion. The question asked at the top of this blog is: “Michael Vick’s lawyers are in the process of negotiating a plea deal (read the story here ).

If Vick goes to jail, do you think he’ll have a future playing in the NFL again?”

Going to Jail would imply guilt either by plea or by trial.

Stop Trolling.

By DeAngelo Stiggers

August 14, 2007 3:40 PM | Link to this

Im not defending vick,if he didi these things he was very much wrong.But what about what G.Bush is doing and every man,woman,child that hunt and kill animals for a sport and hang them on their walls.I guess that’s ok with you,there no different than vick,so are you commenting on the way thay kill and have trophies.You might be one of the person that kill animals for fun and think it’s cool.If you knew your bible, you would know jesus said kill no animal or person.

By Sylvia R. Williams

August 14, 2007 3:41 PM | Link to this

first of all, i sure that Michael Vick started doing this way before he realizw that this was wrong. This sort of thing has been going on for a long time, and it did not start with Michael Vick, I truly believe because who Michael Vick is, is why the FEDS want to dry him out. I think Michael Vick should apology, tell us that he really didn’t know it was a crime, because i did not know it was a crime. give some money to a animals right group that against abuse. Michael Vick has been good for the City of Atlanta and for us to turn our back on a young black man we should be praying that he is turned into the right direction. Anytime a young person is trying to better himself and family some one always is trying to tear them down. As I say again Michael Vick has been good for the Atlanta Falcons and Atlanta. Arthur Blank you of all people should throw your arms around him and forgive him because Michael Vick loves you for the opportunity that you gave him. The American way is to forgive. Please Mr. Blank don’t throw Michael Vick away, give him an another chance we all make mistakes and I truly feel in my heart that Michael Vick made a big mistake in this dog fighting thing and he is truly sorry. Atlanta please give him another chance.

By CQ

August 14, 2007 3:43 PM | Link to this

Vick time is over here for sure. Its amazing how some people want to give Vick 6 years in prison but at the same time the white collar crimals get probation or 3 months in jail. Take a look at the White House case where the guy who leaked top secrete info received Probation, or Martha Stewart who did a few months and went home after being found guilty of Insider trader.

By A--ville Ranger

August 14, 2007 3:43 PM | Link to this

Just wondering——I’m ‘just wondering’,did you mean diluted as in a weakened mixture ? I’m guessing you intended to write deluded implying being out of touch with reality.Well anyway you’re wrong, most of us will NEVER want to see this brutal sociopath play again…EVER.

By 1980 Falcon

August 14, 2007 3:44 PM | Link to this

Na Na Na Na.. Na Na Na Na.. Hey.. Hey.. Hey Goodbye THUG!!!!!!!!

The class of the organization will go UP 10 notches this week.

Vick Apologist.. Lovers.. IDIOTS… time to get over it.. he gone and wont be back.

You watch… Joey H will do just fine.

We will see if the black community is TRULY RACIALLY TOLERANT with a white QB.

Dont preach RACISM.. IF YOU PRACTICE IT YOURSELF!

BYE MV7… DONT LET THE DOOR HIT….

By filster

August 14, 2007 3:47 PM | Link to this

Peace:

Bush is not a thug, he is an idiot. Vick and his ilk adopt and personfiy the thug image because of whatever allegd social status it protrays. Bottom line is, apparently, he lied when he claimed he was innnocent, but I guess that does not bother you or other Vick supports. He engaged in a barabaric event, cruelly killed dogs, broke the law across state lines, and who knows what else. As for those who say “it’s just dogs,” funny. That sounds similar to what was said long ago to justify slavery. Vick IS a criminal (if not, why else cop a plea), will do time, and if we’re ever going to try and clean up professional sports, banning him for life would send a very strong message to all the wannabes that no one is above the law regardless of how talented, fast, strong, etc. I mean, would Tiger have put himself in this mess?

By Day

August 14, 2007 3:48 PM | Link to this

Most humans have not evolved beyond that prison that allows them to care for only things that affect them directly, their race, their gender, their immediate family etc…the animals are our planet mates and how we treat them are very indicative of just how evolved we humans are. I guess since we don’t really even care about the planet that houses us it should come as no surprise that we don’t care about the lesser evolved creatures with which we share it.

By Josh Valentine

August 14, 2007 3:54 PM | Link to this

I watched The Falcons and Jets Game Last Friday Night. I enjoyed the Falcons Game without Vick. Even if they lost, atleast they played as a team. Harrington did good. It was better without BALLHOG VICK.

By A--ville Ranger

August 14, 2007 3:54 PM | Link to this

Sgt Fury —- Well done my man (or woman) very concise,best summery I,ve seen on the subject.

By Bert

August 14, 2007 3:59 PM | Link to this

If he pleads guilty to a FELONY that includes illegal GAMBLING, then how CAN he continue to play in the NFL? I think that the NFL can ban him forever under their “personal conduct” clause…and personally, I hope that they do. He is no different than his brother and the rest of his family…trash.

By whatever

August 14, 2007 3:59 PM | Link to this

GET OFF THE BLOG, CHARLES. A small comment and you still don’t know what to say.

By EDWARD

August 14, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this

Does it not speak volumes about the depths of depravity in this distorted society that we are so preoccupied with the killing of dogs as we continue to murder our unborn children? What a breathtaking indifference.

By Justice 4 All

August 14, 2007 4:04 PM | Link to this

aaah yes if anything I can count on ajc blogs for my daily dose of hatred! Im sooo tired of everyone on both sides get a life worry about real criminals not over paid ball players! I mean the throws a pigskin around for a living and all of a sudden hes held to a diffrent moral scale than everybody else huh? LOL!!! If a man with a 100 million dollars is a thug what do you call regular black people just making a living? meanwhile were at war celeberties drive drunk and no calls thems thugs etc..How far Georgia has to go the flag was changed but that rebel spirit is still buried deep in a lot of people souls!

By Dan

August 14, 2007 4:08 PM | Link to this

I would rather see it go to trial, A plea would allow all the apologists to claim he was never found guilty and was bullied into it. Hey the plea worked for Ray Lewis and he was an accessory to murder PS on the field it really doesn’t impact the falcons, they will probably wind up with about the same record, albeit with a shift in stats

By anita

August 14, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this

its a sad shame. this world is full of sicko’s. Mike was wrong. sorry he deserves what ever he gets. he has everything he could want for but not enough sense or compassion to make a mature sound decision about his life and his character. what a shame. maybe next time he will use better judgment. maybe he will build some character about himself. its a sad shame. it is truly a time for prayer in this world

By Gilbert

August 14, 2007 4:14 PM | Link to this

The nature of the pit bull is to fight. Too many stories of babies and kids and even adults stricken by “friendly” pit bull house pets, even towards owners. Bringing up and training pit bulls to fight is not as unnatural as it is made out to be, and it is a sport that is popular although highly illegal in most states. I’d almost bet that Alaska still condones a fight or two up in that rugged part of the country, even though their sled dogs are crucial for survival. It depends on what type of dog you are talking about. Police train German Shepards to be aggressive upon command against fellow man. In Greece, gladiators fought to the death not too long ago. The mistake Vick made was not being sanctioned or given permission to fight the dogs; he has a dog license for pit bulls; just not the license to fight them. I feel sorry for the guy but no matter, his NFL playing days are over when he accepts a plea deal. Too much pressure now to avoid the additional charges that include conspiracy and 20 year sentence, plus avoiding the additional gory details. If Vick wants to fight dogs, he needs to live in an area of the world where this is accepted, or perhaps change to rooster c** fights in Texas? The NFL and Falcons are going to be firm and too many fans as well won’t allow Vick any more playing time even after serving a prison sentence, which seems to be or should be Vick’s main worry. To not cop a plea at this point opens the gates of h with more charges, so Vick will plea bargain by the Friday deadline, without a doubt, which means a guilty plea and only a matter of how many years in prison, which many be an agreed upon length of time which is what I assume the lawyers are hoping to negotiate downwards from 6 years. I see Vick entering a plea Friday as his best choice and his lawyers earning their fees by reducing prison time and based only on current charges. The fact is, the group got caught and plea bargaining stops the investigation, which I assume is still ongoing and now more evidence forthcoming from the 3 of 4 who pleaded guilty already. I am thinking a 2 or 3 year sentence and no more NFL.

By Wahoo

August 14, 2007 4:15 PM | Link to this

To “Just Wondering?”

The word is “deluded” not “diluted”.

Thank you.

By Josh Valentine

August 14, 2007 4:18 PM | Link to this

I enjoyed the game Friday Night without Vick. Although the Falcons lost, Atlanta played and lost as a team. By the way, Harrington is a better Quarterback without Vick. I hope Harrington will do good for Atlanta.

By Wahoo

August 14, 2007 4:18 PM | Link to this

To you who are supportive of him fine… but to think that a ton of teams will line up for him I think is wrong.

Vick may be an exciting quarterback, but he’s not really an effective one.

He doesn’t read the game that well for a QB, and he doesn’t throw that accurately.

There is a reason QBs don’t run for 1000 yards a season… because running the ball is the running back’s job not the QBs.

By Vick# 1 Fan

August 14, 2007 4:18 PM | Link to this

Vick Hater’s,

Mike Vick has done nothing wrong.. He knew nothing about the fighting dog’s.. All you have is the White(Man) trying to taxed Vick. Hell if I had 130 million I will sit in Jail too. Hell he is paid no matter what happens. There is too much money to be made from Vick while sitting in Jail. He will do 6 months in the winter at most and be free. There will still be more dog fights by his crew.. Again too much money out there. You got other crime on the streets to be worried about beside some dogs fighting. You got White Offices beating up our Black Brothers and all they get is a better position on the Police Force. Mike Vick will be back in the NFL next year with a Fatt Contract..

By Rawbreed™

August 14, 2007 4:19 PM | Link to this

Vick is not finished… I wish people would stop saying that… Even if he faces jail time Jamal Lewis did some jail time and returned back to his same team!!! just think about that for a second. Trafficing narcotics should most certainly get you banned from the NFL.. but it didn’t so Vick should go down for fighting DOGS??? ….get a grip people… and all this Thug and Ghetto Trash labeling is racist… get your point across without heckling the man and offending african american people in the process. It is stereotype and racist. I expect the Falcons, Goddell, and the Players Association to do the right thing. suspend vick for a 1/4-1/2 this season

By john

August 14, 2007 4:20 PM | Link to this

So many times atheletes that come from improve impoverished areas still keep associations in those areas. Doesn’t matter if those associations were good or bad. They need to learn that once they enter a professional status, those bad influences need to be cast off. What a plea now means is that his professional status is alittle gray now.

By Monika G

August 14, 2007 4:21 PM | Link to this

As to Rick’s comment:

I have been a Bengals fan for 20plus years and I take exception to your comment. The Bengals will never sign M. Vick. He is the worst scum ever. I predict he will only play in the penal league and that is what he deserves. The Bengals never had and never will have convicted felons on their team. Take that Rick.

By Green Girl

August 14, 2007 4:22 PM | Link to this

I’M PRAYING VICK GETS PRISON TIME!!!

Michael Vick and any other person (whether that person is white, black, yellow, purple, green, orange, blue, red, etc.) that deliberately abuses innocent animals in such henious acts as Michael Vick has done deserves PRISON.

By Black Man in defense of Black Girl

August 14, 2007 4:25 PM | Link to this

White boy, Brock and whoever else, not only are you guys inbred idiots but extreme hypocrites. The point black girl was trying to make is not whether it is legal or not but the hypocrisy in what animals are sacred and what are not. Because white men like hunting deer and killing them, that is sport and that is legal. Dog fighting is not a main stream sport and only blacks and rednecks participate in that so that is illegal. White boy do you know how stupid you sound by saying good dog fighters don’t kill their dogs. There is no good dog fighter period. You said that the dogs didn’t have a choice. Does the deer have a choice before you blow his head off dummy!?

The fact of the matter is a large number of white people treat animals better than human beings. A white NFL player for the green bay packers was indicted just like Michael Vick for child molestation. His name was Mark Chmura. He didn’t get suspended. He didn’t get fined. He got his day in court and prevailed. There was not outrage from victims groups or anything. It was like you guys said “He is only accused of raping a little white girl. It’s not like he raped a dog or something.” He was just a white guy who got accused of molesting a young girl.

Michael Vick is indicted for financing a dog fighting ring which is stupid indeed. However, because it involves dogs, everyone is horrified. No one is willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. ( I admit it is stacked against him.) I’m not justifying his actions but you people are huge hypocrites. Race is all over this. I can’t imagine the outrage would be the same if it was Brett Favre. You wouldn’t be calling him a thug that’s for sure. You people are the same people that saw the Rodney King beating and wanted all the evidence to come out first before you said the “white cops” were wrong. Dog fighting, deer hunting, quail hunting is all cruelty to animals. Just face the fact that you are just as cruel as Michael Vick idiot.

And you guys quit saying black people will support anyone just because they are black we tend to value humans more than dogs. Rae Carruth was a popular wide receiver for the Carolina Panthers. He killed his pregnant girlfriend becaue he didn’t want to pay child support. Most black people I know said he could go to hell. When he got convicted no one shed a tear. He killed a woman (human) and a baby (human). To us, there is a substantial difference.

By Jeff

August 14, 2007 4:25 PM | Link to this

He is guilty, innocent men don’t even think of plea bargaining. Take your soap on a rope to prison Mikey.

By Don Imus

August 14, 2007 4:25 PM | Link to this

Folks, you need to learn you cannot talk sense to people who are inherently dumb. Its a waste of time so quit trying.

By Rawhide

August 14, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this

I feel no sadness for Vick. He’s stupid! He has all this money through the NFL and endorsements, and what does he do? He throws it all out the window so he can look cool to his leetch-on friends,….dog fighting!

What a moron!

regardless what you think about the activity, it IS a felony.

Oh, and to the idiot who wanders what the differenc between dog fighting and hunting deer:

Of course, now all of the “innocent until proven guilty” crowd will now become the “guilty: but dog fighting ain’t so bad crowd”.

Whatever appeases your conscience in able to defend this idiot, I guess.

By Jackson

August 14, 2007 4:28 PM | Link to this

exactly where will the Dog Killing Vick choose to live? I’ll tell you one thing both Vick and that idiot PacMan JOnes won’t be welcome in Vegas anymore……………

By mars

August 14, 2007 4:29 PM | Link to this

Losing Vick will set the Falcons back three years? Promise? No more Mora era? No dropped passes, tiny linemen, middle fingers, and water bottles? Whew, what a relief!

By Rod

August 14, 2007 4:31 PM | Link to this

Judgement Day: We all better hope were forgiven that day. :)

By Dave

August 14, 2007 4:35 PM | Link to this

I am no Peta fan, but I hope GA is protested by PETA until we change our lax dog fighting laws.

Unfortunately, the state of Georgia has lagged behind in its efforts to toughen anti-dogfighting laws. Officials with the Humane Society of the United States have said that Georgia has some of the weakest anti-dogfighting laws in the nation.

Under current state laws, in order to charge someone with a felony offense of dogfighting, an officer must actually see the dogs fighting. Because of this stipulation police could raid a dogfight and find dozens of dead or injured dogs, owners, trainers, spectators and equipment but could only charge the people they saw fighting dogs when they came in.

Although dogfighting is a felony in Georgia, our state is one of only three that doesn’t outlaw the possession of fighting dogs. We are also one of the two states in our nation where it’s legal to be a spectator at a dogfight. I think in some regards our state legislature is in some ways just as much an enabler to dog fighting as Michael Vick is. I hope next election cycle we let these guys know how we feel about their neglect regarding this issue.

By Justice 4 All

August 14, 2007 4:36 PM | Link to this

It is just dogs! I hate to say it but if you put a peice of flesh in your mouth your just as guilty as him. A soul is a soul the sell hot dogs and hamburgers at the stadium still no protest they kill thousands of animals for those nike shoes still no protest the make the shoes in sweatshops still no protest the throw a pigskin around still no protest! But let someone hurt fluffy thats were you draw the line huh? LMAO!!!! Get real there is a war going on were “REAL” souls are lost. Fish are killled no out cry deer are hunted no out cry pat kerny has some one raped in his house while he was there no outcry! This is a fourm for redneck racsist to spout the contempt for anyone whos not like them. It doesnt affect your life eitherway what he did and whats going to happen to him so why put so much emotion into your words? Because you not speaking about Vick your speaking about your surroundings and using him as a vessel of hate! Now Go hug your kids and use this time for something worth while!

By R

August 14, 2007 4:38 PM | Link to this

What is the difference of blindly convicting someone because the are black versus blindly stating the person is innocennt because they are black?

By Lex Luthor

August 14, 2007 4:40 PM | Link to this

JOHN ROCKER

Are all of y’all race baiters still convinced its about keeping the black man down?

By George Holman

August 14, 2007 4:46 PM | Link to this

It is a sad, sad state of affairs, but the brutal way that he and the other co-defendants treated these animals cannot go unpunished. Vick is through in Atlanta and maybe the NFL. What a waste and what a shame!

By Vick Fan

August 14, 2007 4:50 PM | Link to this

I did not say I supported what Mike is accused of having participated in with his friends, I simply said that he should be afforded the opportunity to make a living once his case is adjudicated. As for Heatley, I apologize for saying he was intoxicated, however that doesn’t change the fact that another human was killed by his irresposible act, and was given a chance to move forward with his life. Someone else made a comment about my saying a “mistake”—I think that he did something stupid and he has to pay the price, but acting as if he should never be forgiven is stupid. To the person that said I was an idiot because “they are in the process of a plea agreement”—Mike has options in his plea agreement just like his friends, also I didn’t say Mike was innocent. Also,I know what a plea agreement means, and calling me names and getting so offended by my thoughts lets me know who is the idiot. As I have said previously, he is entitled to make a living and I think once he is either finished with probation or released from prison—HE SHOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE A LIVING LIKE HE HAS IN THE PAST. This is not a black-white issue, this is about the rest of his life.

By lynn

August 14, 2007 4:53 PM | Link to this

If you all put half as much in human rights as you do in animal rights this country would’nt be half bad.

By Chris

August 14, 2007 4:56 PM | Link to this

Did anyone see the 2 Live Idiots on First Take this morning?

“It was never about Mike Vick! It’s about due process!”

After that sideshow, I’ll never again listen to their show. Not like I did a lot before, but never again.

By Najeh Davenpoop

August 14, 2007 4:56 PM | Link to this

As most people assumed, it means he was probably guilty. As far as his playing career, Jamal Lewis pleaded down on a federal drug trafficking charge, served prison time, and now still plays in the NFL. I don’t think Vick’s NFL career is over, but I do think for better or worse his Falcons career is over.

By Lowcountry Bulldawg

August 14, 2007 4:58 PM | Link to this

Race? Race? Michael Vick is on the verge of pleading guilty to MURDERING ANIMALS!

By back to knowing you are going to lose

August 14, 2007 5:02 PM | Link to this

the necks got what they want. Moore is a tom and schultz is a redneck. AJC go and get you a blue eye QB that what you wanted all along. Vick you did wrong now you must pay. But we still love you. any body that kills a deer ,dog cow, hog you are all hipocriet if you blame Vick. The falcon will be set back 10 year. Georgia will never change. AJC is >uck up!

By johnny

August 14, 2007 5:03 PM | Link to this

This Vick case is all about race. Kill dogs you are a thug. A white women killing her husband is just depressed. This is the justice for a white crime vs a black crime.

After spending a total of seven months in custody, the Tennessee woman who fatally shot her preacher husband in the back was released on Tuesday, her lawyer told CNN.

Holding baby Breanna, Mary Winkler stands next to Matthew. In the foreground are Mary Alice and Patricia.

1 of 2 Mary Winkler, a 33-year-old mother of three girls, was freed from a Tennessee mental health facility where she was treated for depression and post-traumatic stress disorder, lawyer Steve Farese said.

By Chris

August 14, 2007 5:05 PM | Link to this

When he pleads guilty, all the apologists are going to say, “Well, he was found guilty in a court of law! The government bullied him and force him to confess to something he didn’t do!”

That’s already what they’re saying about Vick’s homeboys.

I love all the people shouting “Due process!” They weren’t even in class the day due process was taught. They just heard it one of the 20 times they had to stand in front of a judge down at Rice Street.

By Johnny Reb

August 14, 2007 5:05 PM | Link to this

Black man, I hate burst your your little bubble But I know a lot of black guys who enjoy and are very good deer hunters. So your littl thing about blakc folks don’t hunt is horse S**T.

By Mr. Swollen

August 14, 2007 5:05 PM | Link to this

Prison for a screet thug like Vick would be like old homies week, no punishment at all.

Appropriate punishment would be to send Vick to a Work Camp where he would pick cotton during the day and be required to speak proper English, wear an apprepriate coat and tie, not a zoot suit, and use proper manners in order to be able to dine every evening.

By Day

August 14, 2007 5:08 PM | Link to this

TO DON IMUS, I agree that talking sense to a fool is like jumping into a lake not knowing how to swim-DUMB and TO ROD, unfortunatly I don’t think there is enough grace and mercy in the world or the afterlife for all of us to be forgiven on judgement day —if we never once sought or acknowledged the power of grace and mercy while alive then “judgemnt day” could be a hell file occasion…..TO ALL OTHERS, why would an innocent person take a plea??

By mars

August 14, 2007 5:09 PM | Link to this

So Mike didn’t know dogfighting was illegal. Hmmm. Black painted buildings hidden in the back shadows rather than a neon sign to advertise your main event would imply knowledge of wrongdoing.

Vick#1Fan says Vick did nothing wrong, yet sidestepped the question of guilt.

And I seemed to recall quite a bit of outrage at Mark Chmura, yet I don’t recall him returning to the field.

To the Vick apologists, try this excercise. Take all of your arguments for Vick, substitute the name ‘Michael Vick’ with the name ‘Don Imus’, and I’m pretty sure you’ll find where the true hypocrisy and racism is.

By Lowcountry Bulldawg

August 14, 2007 5:09 PM | Link to this

Rod,

Yes we better hope we are all forgiven. I know I am one, but this is a forum to discuss this issue. If you feel so uncomfortable then take the “higher road” and ignore all of these comments. We all would agree that at the end of the day we will stand before our maker and live with the choices we have made, but in the meantime we can discuss current events. It is obvious which side you have chosen and so be it. Michael Vick was a godsend at one time to this city and franchise. My son even has one of his jersey’s,but at this time he has become to much of a liability. It is time for him to go.

I grew up in Dalton Ga. Carpet Capital of the world. As a youngster growing up on the wrong side of the tracks my best friends were black. My best friends! I look back fondly on those days were race was not an issue. Now because I am white and I view Vick a certain way, I AM A RASCIST.Is that fair to me? I cannot help my moral compass, in that I see things for what they are not matter the color. Good luck to those of you who judge and presume that just because we may be white, we are rascist.

By back to knowing you are going to lose

August 14, 2007 5:12 PM | Link to this

now we wait to see when a white player screw up watch AJC ! Watch to see what Tom Boy sell out moore and rightious redneck schultz does! we are now going back to the old Falcons. losers this what neckville wanted!

By Jack

August 14, 2007 5:12 PM | Link to this

Some Facts

A WHTE guy named David Ray Tant is in a SC prison for 40 years for dogfighting.

A Black guy named Tiger Woods is the most popular golfer in America.

A BLACK guy named Michael Jordan is the most popular basketball player in America.

A BLACK woman named Oprah is the most poplular talk show host in America.

The WHITE QB who has won 3 superbowls for New England makes less money than the BLACK QB (VICK) who has won none.

Who is the highest paid player in the NFL? A BLACK guy named Vick.

Did Whitey force Vick to engage in an illegal activity (dogfighting) for the past 6 years?

Football fans, is there ANY activity that a football player can engage in that you would like to see them kicked out of football (killing children? molesting children?) Or is anything ok with you?

Black folks. Is there ANY crime a black can commit that you won’t start shouting that white society is trying to bring the black man down?

Vick tortured and killed dogs. No one made him do it. What the matter with you people?

By back to knowing you are going to lose

August 14, 2007 5:18 PM | Link to this

why be a falcon fan? If you are Black star don’t come to neckville. Read this blog page. Don’t be a fool they hate you! If you can’t beat’em join them. I will be a Falcon hater now.

By back to knowing you are going to lose

August 14, 2007 5:19 PM | Link to this

why be a falcon fan? If you are Black star don’t come to neckville. Read this blog page. Don’t be a fool they hate you! If you can’t beat’em join them. I will be a Falcon hater now.

By THE MAN

August 14, 2007 5:28 PM | Link to this

I am 38 y/o male born and raised in the “A” a Falcons fan (1st),a M. VICK fan and a dog lover. I’m also a soldier recently returning from the Iraq war. I am sad,mad,angry and down right hurt that every time our govt. make an accusation (indictment)against someone we the people rush to judgement. The one that stick out in my mind is IRAQ. We the people rush to judge the evidence our govt. gave/showed us. And from the evidence we were presented, people like myself (soldiers) are fighting, losing limbs and dying. And to think today the over powering evidence our govt. gave/showed us is showing to have been tainted/FALSE. All I’m saying is WE ARE AMERICAN’S and we have a system in place that says, “WE ARE INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY”.

By the way, I think Vick will play in the NFL again I just wish it could be in Atlanta because no matter what you think of M. Vick as a person or a football player, he brought alot of excitement to our city.

By Brian

August 14, 2007 5:28 PM | Link to this

Actually, I think Vick will play in Atlanta. He’ll plead to a lesser crime not do anytime and play by week number 6. However, dog fighting is against the law granted and some dogs lost there lifes I’m not outraged about it, 60% of the dogs who are impounded are euthanized “put to sleep” killed, whichever you prefer. Also a large percentage of dogs who are used for racing are also put down. Where is the outrage!!!! Get off of your high horses. This is a crime, nonetheless but the seriousness has been blown way out of proportion. As to Vicks playing career, he’ll play and beat the Falcons everytime he comes to town. It’s the ATL curse, Atlanta as a town bows down to national media attention. I’m not seeing the “Thug” tag here either. Is this guy beating up people, in the mob or a gang. Would this one incident qualify him as a Thug…Every black guy with a hairstyle and tatoos is not a thug. But Relax, no need to worry, you Vick haters do not have to go work and defend, your wannabe quarterback anymore. The Falcons have gone back to the days of June Jones and Jerry Glanville…Congratulations

By David & Sharon

August 14, 2007 5:29 PM | Link to this

We are heartened by the apparent trend toward holding sports figures (and celebrities in general) to higher standards of behavior?

We have been appalled by the Vick case. Full disclosure, we have two dogs who are full-fledged members of our family. But we do not consider ourselves “animal rights activists.” We are die-hard Football Fans!

Our feeling is that in exchage for our investing loyalty (and ticket purchases, sports apparel, etc.) we expect our sports “heros” to behave in the classical sense of that term. As much as we loved Ricky Williams (have his jersey for every team on which he played) We applaud the actions of the NFL in response to his persistent drug use. Ultimately, the league’s holding players to higher standards will be of benefit beyond just the players themselves. Vince Young (whom we also dearly love) was recently benched for a curfew violation. Even with regard to a young man who HAS demonstrated strengh of character, this sends a valuable message to kids that consequences attach to rule-breaking behaviors … even of millionaire sports figures. Regards, David & Sharon

By RJS

August 14, 2007 5:30 PM | Link to this

Vick will be a Miami Dolphin or Tampa Bay Buc in 2009, maybe even 2008. ATL— get over it and move on.

Also, thanks for education, I had no idea dogfighting was was so closely related to hunting. Maybe it’s all that dog meat that Vick eats that makes him so fast. Maybe I’ll try some next time I’m in Korea- thanks again for the insight. Here’s another idea- Maybe Marcus Vick thought Elvis Dumervil’s head was actually a dog when he stomped on it. Just throwing it out there.

Black man defending black girl- I hope your wrong about the race thing, but I just can’t say for sure. I can’t argue that Favre sucks and still gets treated better than McNair ever did- but, then again, Vick is no Steve McNair. On the flip side, plenty of white people did rush to judgment (rightly so) against the cops in the Rodney King beating and plenty of black and white people rushed to judgment against the Duke Lacrosse players. You should come out West- America isn’t black and white anymore- its becoming more and more brown and yellow every day.

By E

August 14, 2007 5:31 PM | Link to this

Sa Vant is a idiot. I know he did not bring up boys dying in Iraq. Tell me idiot, Why are our boys dying in IRAQ? What was the evidence based on, LIES!!!!! Think about whay you say before you say it. I think a bigger issue than dog fighting would be IMPEACHMENT TALKS - Sa Vant the IDIOT!!

By TheTruthHurts

August 14, 2007 5:31 PM | Link to this

Like we always knew HE IS GUILTY AS HELL and he thinks this is his only way out….I hope he gets his a* thrown out of football…he is a murderer who is guilty guilty guilty…to all those idiots who thought he was innocent…get a brain you fools!!! YOUR BOY IS GUILTY!!!! If he wasnt he would not be making a plea deal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By e baker

August 14, 2007 5:36 PM | Link to this

If Vick gets a year or less and would be available for the 2008 season, then he’ll play somewhere in the NFL. Maybe not here, but somewhere.

More than a year, and he’s done as an NFL quarterback.

By Johnny Reb

August 14, 2007 5:38 PM | Link to this

You know this thing about black folks don’t hunt is crap. I know numerous black guy who hunt and are very skilled at the sport. They don’t kill and eat dogs either. I don’t really care what happens to Vick, let him have his day, but when you start plea bargaining cause your peeps is turning on you. Hummmmmmmm, don’t look to good, now you got admit that one. I don’t give damn what color his skin is a dumd a* decision is just that, don’t think it requires any further explanation. If you wanna rape a dog as long as it ain’t my dog. Only cause I don’t raise you off spring ot wear protection for my dog’s saftey please. Pick you big mean nasty b*** and have at it. I don’t give a damn. If you see a male sitting on the side of road licking his dick and you want to, og over and help him. But if he bites your stupid a*, STFP about it. Now stop all the damn whinning and let’s see whaqt happens.

By JP

August 14, 2007 5:41 PM | Link to this

OK Had throw in my two cents worth! First, I find it amusing that Vick’s ‘crew’ has ‘rolled over’ on him. ‘Don’t snitch’ was not one of the prereq’s to get in on with BADNEWZ! Mike, you should have hooked up some Real Gangsta’s like TI or YOUNG JEZZY! They might have stood up for ya, NAW they prolly wouldnt have either! This is a true story of thug life: DEAD OR IN JAIL. Mike, you had it ALL! You didn’t need to live the thug life anymore! You had made it but now it’s gone. Not to worry, once you’ve done the time for the crime you might have a little $ left over to live out that thug fantasy life you always dreamed of! This NFL career thing was all just a dream! Just let it go, you can now right a book or get that sweet 20/20 Barbara Walters interview for some more spending money!

By Charleu Running Horse

August 14, 2007 5:44 PM | Link to this

Comparing ultimate fighting to dog fighting? Hahahahahaha. What an idiot.

My son’s best friend in TRAINING to be an ultimate fighter. His choice, comprende? Does he do it because he has no other way to make a living and is forced into it… um, well, he did graduate Law school and is taking the bar exam. Does that count?

Regardles of how you feel about dogfighting, Vick is being prosecuted for, say it with me now, Violating the Law. Not because he is black, or white or green.

If you were so concerned about justice, were you protesting all of the other racially-motivated federal prosecutions… like Martha Stewart, Ken Lay, Bernie Evers… What these people have in common is that they, say it again, violated the law.

And by the way, no one gives a rodent’s red rectum whether or not you feel there’s nothing wrong with dogfighting. Once again it’s, c’mon say it, a violation of the law!

By lawdog

August 14, 2007 5:51 PM | Link to this

The prosecutors will not agree to any plea that doesn’t involve some jail time.I believe they want to send a message about the seriousness of the crime of dog fighting. I tend to think it will be months, rather than years. He will obviously not play this year. He will receive a lifetime suspension from the NFL, but he will be eligible to apply for reinstatement after a year. My guess is that he wont be reinstated next year, but stands a good chance of getting back in the league the following year if he says and does all the right things. Now that his crew has rated him out, maybe he will choose his new friends more carefully. I believe that some jail time and two years away from the game is a reasonable punishment. The Falcons will be able to recover some of the money they paid to Vick, but they are going to suffer the cap hit. I do think Vick should be given the opportunity to play again if he demonstrates true remorse, accepts his punishment and cleans up his image. He has assembled a fine legal team, but the odds are certainly against him in federal court. If he gambles and loses, he will face serious jail time and will likely never play again in the NFL.

By creole cooking

August 14, 2007 5:51 PM | Link to this

Vick didn’t have the critics help him coming in the league and he won’t need them going on about his business. He’s made more money in last 6 years than most of the people on all the blogs will make a whole life time. Most of them at home with no job, no pot to p** in or a window to throw it up against. So what if he don’t play anymore, keep it moving Vick like everyone else. As for Terrance Moore, I believe Mike Vick really p** you off or you are showing extreme jealousy toward him and the black community. I never knew that a person couldn’t be loyal to anyone, black, white, hispanic, asian, creole, hell it’s their choice, but to call out African American community being loyal to their own kind, you are in a world by yourself, you need to have your job pull and pickers need to be out in front of the AJC for writing such an article. Good AJC online is free, I wouldn’t dare pay for the publishing. It’s obvious, the Feds wanted Mike Vick, why else will the others agree to plea. Atlanta is against their own, so why pay to watch if you don’t care for your own team? Now the AJC are on Babibanux. I wouldn’t welcome a sole here to play professional, college, high school or any sport where this newspaper has to report comments, it’s aweful. So very sad. At least be fair.

By Brian

August 14, 2007 5:52 PM | Link to this

How many NFC division titles have the Falcons one in there history. Don’t throw out a bunch of statistics when we already know that Vick brings much more than being a pocket passer, you’re stating the obvious. Now that we’ve estblished that. He has guided the never back-to-back winning season, Falcons to a division crown and NFC title game, but you argue he is garbage. He went into Green Bay and beat the Packers, yet he is garbage. I could name 20 other QB’s in the league who’ve never made it to the play-offs. This is why Atlanta will never be a true sports town, you can’t appreciate what you have. Thug or not, we’re debating sports, not social issues. At the end of the day this young man will be playing “Sports” for the Falcons or some other franchise, making money for himself and the team owner. This issue is not about social commentary. But then again it is, for him. A black high profile athelete, it’s not America’s call on this it’s the media. They choose how, when, where to cover a story. Danny Heatley, drunk or not actions killed a team mate, Patrick Kerney, was asleep while someones daughter was raped in his house, a Univ. of Colorado athelete stabbed a teammate to gain playing time,any number of pro atheletes batter there wives; Michael Vick probably sponsered illegal dog fighting. You do the math. WHere’s the BIG story here. The crime isn’t the story Michael Vick is. The color of his skin and his status make it a big deal.

By The Man

August 14, 2007 5:53 PM | Link to this

Vick# 1 Fan

Can you be any more of a idiot? your obviiouly someone lacking brains and the ability to think on your own….no wonder you work in mcdonalds and earn minimum wage…get a clue fool!!

By C U at the Dome

August 14, 2007 5:56 PM | Link to this

I am a Vick supporter; but as time goes by with his troubles, I realize that he will no longer be a Falcon. I am Falcon fan 1st and will be a season ticket holder. I want to put this practice season behind us and get on to some more good football like we use to have when Vick was playing. Falcons 3-13 for the 2007 season. Go Falcons!!!

By Ed

August 14, 2007 5:58 PM | Link to this

I’m sorry, I have to vent. First: Is Vick a target? Yes, but not due to race. He’s a celebrity. He has the richest NFL contract ever, was in countless commercials and had one of the top selling jerseys in the country. Guess what people, Americans love celebrities, especially when they get in trouble. If Payton Manning got arrested do you think the media storm would be any less? Vick was/is on that level when it comes to celebrity.

He was not a target of the Federal gov’t though. This fell into their laps because of Vick’s cousin getting busted for unrelated charges. What, are they not supposed to investigate when there is evidence of a crime?

Dog fighting -vs- hunting has one big difference….DOG FIGHTING IS ILLEGAL!!

Level of brutality isn’t the issue. One is illegal and one is not. Yes, culterally it may be more acceptable in certain areas, but that doesn’t make it legal. I’ve been to a cockfight in Puerto Rico where it is legal and guess what? No one was arrested. It looks like he got caught of a crime and that is that.

If he serves his time (or is acquitted) then let him play. He should have the right to make a living at the job he’s skilled to do if he has paid the price.

Thanks…I feel better now.

By SATFalcon

August 14, 2007 6:09 PM | Link to this

I could give a sh*% less if Vick goes to jail or not. I have my own problems. However, I hope the Falcons cut him so my wife will allow me to watch them on TV this year. I hate to see my Direct TV package go to waste.

Where I come from, we don’t call people like Vick a thug - we just call em’ dumb country somebeaches.

By Native Son

August 14, 2007 6:12 PM | Link to this

At least the dogs have a chance to win. Now, what was the question?

By tyger

August 14, 2007 6:22 PM | Link to this

The sooner he gets this over with the better. But Dont be surprised Or too upset if he pleas to something lesser than a FELONY.

Thats a part of the deal - I’ll admit to it and save you the time, effort and money, but you gotta cut me a deal for the savings.

You need to understand that beyond winning - and the guilty plea means THEY WON - the STATE has no interest in ruining Vicks life.

In fact, in many cases, the punishment phase serves to rehabilitate, educate and reparate and I bet his sentence involves a heavy does of all of the above.

The State has no interest in housing, feeding, 1st time, non-violent offenders even if they are rich black arrogant football players.

Moreover, the sentencing guidelines arent that severe. We’re realistically talking about months here not years.

Theyve humiliated him or rather he’s humiliated himself enough, he’s lost millions in endorsements and thousands of fans and at least one season of his short career. The court will consider these things.

Commissioner Goodell has to wait. If Vicks pleas to less than a felony and no gambling charges, he’s in a pickle.

He can suspend Vick the 4 games, or perhaps even the season but then what?

Its just not that big a deal, sorry.

By BlackGirl

August 14, 2007 6:24 PM | Link to this

Black Man I couldn’t have said it better myself!

By Sheena

August 14, 2007 6:34 PM | Link to this

Hey Peace, You need to find Jesus and remove the ALL CAPS filth from your post!!

By mary

August 14, 2007 6:38 PM | Link to this

I just happened to be in Vick’s neighborhood the other night visiting family. One can only hope to live as well as he lives. He blew it. He has been given much more than most athletes could ever dream of (huge salary, endorsements, etc.). His stupidity did him in!

By tls

August 14, 2007 6:40 PM | Link to this

If it were that serious a charge it would cary more than a one year sentnce. This is more about showing a black young man that the “system” can bring you down if it wants to. He was guilty until proven innocent and will take a plea to end this ordeal. he deserves a chance to continue to play football.

By BuzzDraft

August 14, 2007 6:48 PM | Link to this

Any person that would do this to animals is a sociopath and needs to be put away until they are reformed.

And this is setting the black American cause back years… you have made an extremely bad choice for a “victim” to rally around to be your movement’s champion and example of racial discrimination. All you’re doing is rendering the legitimate application of that charge meaningless. You’re crying wolf with a really bad example.

By Tommy

August 14, 2007 6:49 PM | Link to this

I just wonder will the NFL will make a new rule. If a teams QB that brings in more money than anyone else to the league to the tune of 25 million in sales of his stuff to fans all around the world. If this guy does something stupid and goes to jail can that team automatically get the # 1 pick for the next 5 years? Now all this is HYPOTHETICAL of course ….. I don’t know of a team in this shape! I was just thinking out of the box!

If the QB or the big star …. it may be a point guard. The team deserves and the fans derserve the right to the number 1 pick for at least FIVE years. Its not like picking a dud … you had a SUPERSTAR that went BRAIN DEAD. That AINT management or the fans fault we should not suffer.

By Brenda

August 14, 2007 6:52 PM | Link to this

The only way out for these jerks, is to admit their guilt & make it their life’s work to expose & put a stop to dog fighting & other cruelty to animals. Raise money to help fund agencies that do just that. If he wants people to like him again, he will have to go on TV game shows and “win it for the dogs.”

By lamarr

August 14, 2007 6:54 PM | Link to this

This is very sad for humanity. Can you image trusting so called friends for the last 10 or more years and they turn on you. Here is is man who had the world in his hand and doing something so stupid and throwing it all away. This is a cultural problem with our society. It is ashame that it has become racial.

By Roxie

August 14, 2007 6:58 PM | Link to this

I am sorry to hear this about Vick. I think we all should pray for him and also encourage our own children to chose their company wisely. But, he who is without sin throw the first stone. And not one of us is perfect!!! There are people out here harming our children, robbing, stealing and killing, and they’re walking the streets. But, all the attention is focused on dog fighting. What’s really wrong with us.

By brendan

August 14, 2007 7:19 PM | Link to this

Michael Vick will spend at least two years in prison and will be on probation for several more. that is if he takes a deal. If he goes to trial he’ll be up against multiple counts that could land him up to 20 years with racketeering and interstate gambling thrown in. The feds are not playing.

He will never play for atlanta again and chances are he’ll never start at quarterback again.

The reason for that is that he is a horrible quarterback. Having watched almost every falcon’s game since 1978 I have never seen a QB that has lost us more games with untimely fumbles and costly interceptions. Even Jeff George was better.

He did not throw a catchable ball and always delivered the ball out of rythm and with a slight waggle instead of a spiral.

He never could read NFL defenses and make adjustments at the line and to top it off, he has lost a step.

Defensive coordinators completely have his number - if you don’t believe me go back and look at all the games we lost where the opposing team scored less than 20 points. then look at the same stat for the patriots and you will see that Mike Vick has not been effective.

In addition, it is obvious that these charges stem from racism. Whites can’t stand to see a black man as a wealthy role model. Remember how they took down Bill Cosby after the first year of “The Cosby Show.”

By Austin Bailey

August 14, 2007 7:19 PM | Link to this

Am i the only person that seems to think this plea by the other defendants could actually be a good thing for Vick. NO WAY VICK SHOULD PLEA!!! If he feels he’s innocent why plea i think the Feds are trying to make him plea. Anyone think that maybe these guys are pleading because they know if the case goes to trial they would face more time for possibly lying on Vick and implicated him when he’s truly innocent. I guess in a couple of days we’ll all know but persoanlly if Vick is truly innocent he should fight this. I don’tknow much about the law but i’d say the porsecutors are bluffing.

By hedidit

August 14, 2007 7:20 PM | Link to this

Some idiots will still swear he’s innocent even if he does plea bargain.

By hedidit

August 14, 2007 7:23 PM | Link to this

lamarr, Vick was the first one to turn on his buds. He was more than willing to let them take the rap.

By brendan

August 14, 2007 7:25 PM | Link to this

oh roxie,

If you know of any unreported crimes you should report them. If the police can gather evidence on a suspect I’ll bet they’ll prosecute even if it happens during the middle of Vick’s trial. I hear they can also walk and chew gum at the same time.

By Chris

August 14, 2007 7:29 PM | Link to this

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2972161

ESPN.com reporting that prosecutors seeking a year in jail; Vick defense team trying for less.

Don’t drop the soap, Mikey.