Ice Man

By Wayne

October 14, 2008 11:37 PM | Link to this

The Thrashers not one of the franchises expected to move? That’ll just break the hearts of the Bitter Canadian Hockey Media (who just absolutely hate Southern/Sun Belt NHL franchises)…

By Russ

October 14, 2008 11:40 PM | Link to this

Where was Havenot tonight. Unfocused Swede. Team loses by 2 goals. He scores no goals. Also no assists. Does complete lack of talent bum understand you have to score to win? Rest of team played well enough. But Havenot (a clue) let the rest of team down. Seems to be daydreaming each second on ice. Not sure he could make a grade school team. Damn sure doesn’t belong in NHL.

By HookyBob

October 15, 2008 12:20 AM | Link to this

Stars over the Wings (in the regular season). Don’t know what you have been ingesting but I would like to try it.

Montreal looked really good last night. I’m a Guy Carbonou (sp) fan, so they are well coached. Also like Bob Gainey. So, what I’m getting at is that when you add the inspiration of playing in their centenial year (and getting their logo on Canadian currency as well as hosting the all-star),…methinks they will get more points than the Penguins.

Rawhide: Love ya man.

By Rawhide

October 15, 2008 12:26 AM | Link to this

HookyBob - Like I said…anyone can pick the Wings :o)

Detroit is obvioulsy a great team and could very well repeat as champs…but let’s see what happens.

By NASCAR Dave

October 15, 2008 1:08 AM | Link to this

“We look all discombobulated.”

Yep. 100% correct. Same TRASH as last year. Crapped out halfway through. Or gave up. No pride. No spirit. Nothing. KOVALCHUK looks as disinterested as ever… Very telling.

OUTHIT, OUTHUSSLED, OUTSKATED… ALL damn night!!!

4th line is a joke… NOTHING from BOULTS/SLATES/THOR aka “Greek Gods”, LMAO… Pathetic.

I told you LITTLE belongs on 1st Line… Where was CRUSHED??? I didn’t see SQUAT!!!

STENDEC is right… LETEMIN doesn’t have the skills or mental toughness to be an elite netminder in the NHL… PAVELEC can’t get here soon enough… MOOSE??? Uh, yeah I’ll pass - No thanks!!! LOL

ENSTROM is ready to sit… Bring back BOGOSIAN and pair that OYSTRICK kid with HAINSEY or HAVELID…

Season ticket renewals were down 60%. I knew that but that was shockingly empty tonight, I think I’ve seen bigger preseason crowds in prior years. I especially was amazed with all the season ticket holders in 116 (snort)

Yep. Right on BOB… 116 was EMPTY… This guy BLOB (OTHER) is a total LIAR… LOL! But seriously, we had that guy pegged out last year, I don’t know why he keeps coming on here making an a$$ of himself… What a joke/fool!!!

In all seriousness, why is SLATER here still??? He contributes NOTHING!!! He whiffed on more shots than JEFF FRANCOUER whiffing on pitches high and tight in his face!!! LOL

Saw KLEE play for ANA tonight… Thank god DONNIE sent him packing… That’s the only positive I take out of tonight!!!

NUFF SAID.

By Baldheaded Thrasher

October 15, 2008 6:54 AM | Link to this

Rawhide Hated to see that 1st goal by Brunette, he had enough time to pitch a tent by the goal. Stefan might have been able to make that shot. Thrashers look inept on PP and PK??? Looks like the same as last year but with different personnel and coac…WTF? Team gives up 3 goals in 3rd Period when we should be taking it to them! JA says when the going gets tough that individuals go back to the old system..Kovy and Koz?

By Sara

October 15, 2008 7:23 AM | Link to this

Well if Dave and the anti-Waddell crew can repeat themselves incessently in their posts I guess I can too. This team was not and is not going to turn everything around in a day/week/month. Bad habits take time to break. I’ve said it, coach has said it, it’s going to take a few months before the team really acclimates to the new systems. Patience.

As for last night’s game…the guys actually lost this game in the second period. They came out flat with no energy and it showed. They weren’t pressuring in either the neutral zone much less the offensive zone. They let Minnesota dictate the play and it ultimately resulted in a ridiculous slew of penalties. The PK was mostly effective but that was more due to Kari than anything else. Minn had I believe 15 shots on goal through their first 3 or 4 PPs - versus about 5 ES shots on goal. Spending half a period on the PK totally kills all momentum and flow. If they keep up the pressure in the second it’s easily possible they could have scored a goal or two in the second and the game would have been completely different. Instead they had to make up for it in the third, opened things up too much and Minnesota was able to capitalize on that. Rookie mistake leads to an odd-man opportunity that Kari was out of position on (hunched forward in the butterfly - don’t know if he lost his balance or what but if he’s upright, that shot doesn’t get in).

It’s a shame too because the first period looked really good. Minimal shots on goal by the opponent, lots of pressure by the Thrashers in the neutral zone. About the only sustained pressure Minnesota got was on the PP. They just have to carry that forward for all three periods. Second period seems to be a mental block for this team.

The top line looked good (especially given they got both our goals), Kovy got his first goal. The PP as Baldheaded Thrasher pointed out was ridiculous - once they got set up it looked alright but they couldn’t get it set up. I know Anderson had said coming in to this game there would be more dump and chase to try and get around Minnesota’s neutral zone trap but I think it worked best for them when they carried it in with speed and pressure.

On a side note, it was interesting watching the Wild broadcast of the game. They were complimentary of the Thrash in what they did well, called a spade a spade when they didn’t - but none of the traditional hockey market elitism you see from some announce duos. High praise for Anderson as well as for Kari. They were also fairly knowledgable about our team overall which was impressive. Most analysts I see outside of our market area/division are generally clueless about some of the attributes of our players not named Kovalchuk (and even then many still fall back on the stereotype of Kovy as a selfish, one-dimensional player).

Top three moments from last night’s game - Kovy’s goal, Kari’s point-blank save on Gaborik, and Gaborik’s goal in the second - that was an incredible move and shot. Poor Toby got rocked again though he seemed to shake it off well. He needs to shake off this sophomore jinx. I don’t know if maybe the pairings need to be changed or match-ups perhaps. Though I can’t think of a D that didn’t have a bad night last night….except for XLB - go figure that one.

By glovesave29

October 15, 2008 8:18 AM | Link to this

I did like the Wild’s feed…good to see our former Atlanta Knights goalie Mike Greenlay is doing well as their color commentator.

I have a funny feeling there might not be too many pucks at todays practice after that showing

By kracker

October 15, 2008 8:23 AM | Link to this

The Thrash lost this one, looking big picture, because they played a team that is well-stocked in players that were drafted/acquired to play in a set system, a defense-first system that they play quite well. The Wild has had several enviable years of patient, consistent development by a competent leadership, with predictable results.

So….the Thrashers now have their new, competent coaches with their own style of play to teach and implement but as Sara continues to quite rightly stress, it’s going to take some time for a new team to learn the new systems.

With that in mind, my thing to stress again goes back to Kari as being the key early on in this season. I am not faulting him for the loss last night, he played pretty well for facing so many SH shots or shots off of rushes, but I’m hoping he (and Moose) can steal us some points along the way as the team develops some chemistry in the new schemes of play. Especially at home, everybody feels better when you can win on your ice.

By glovesave29

October 15, 2008 8:49 AM | Link to this

Well, Stevie Y is about to get a good gig…

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=252668&lid=sublink02&lpos=headlines_main

By ranallo10 (in AT)

October 15, 2008 9:07 AM | Link to this

But seriously, we had that guy pegged out last year

Uh according to you earlier this offseason you weren’t a contributing blogger last year, remember?

Perhaps you’d like to clarify yourself, because I don’t remember having to wade through posts with all CAPS and bold words in every sentence.

By ranallo10 (in AT)

October 15, 2008 9:19 AM | Link to this

glovesave — Hopefully the next gig he gets is in Atlanta.

By Alan

October 15, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this

On a side note, it was interesting watching the Wild broadcast of the game. They were complimentary of the Thrash in what they did well, called a spade a spade when they didn’t - but none of the traditional hockey market elitism you see from some announce duos.

Indeed, Sara. The Minnesota guys are some really classy folks. Combined with the fact that Minnesota is a really talented group of guys, I may have to watch their feed more often.

Hopefully the next gig he gets is in Atlanta.

Hear, hear!

By Bob

October 15, 2008 10:28 AM | Link to this

Yep. Right on BOB… 116 was EMPTY

Yes, yes, it was, but so was the whole arena. Did you see that goof get home from the game last night on the other blog and try to claim that 11,800 or whatever attendance they announced was the same as last year? What a maroon, that was the smallest crowd I’ve ever seen at any Thrashers’ reg. season game, by far. I’ve seen bigger crowds at preseason games, even Knobler talked about it in his column today. here’s an article from a couple years ago that talks about how many free tickets the Thrashers’ give away, at that time it was almost 3000 per game, wonder what it’s up to now? Mabye 4 or 5,000 if they announced over 11,000 last night, there had to be what, mabye 6,000 in the stands? I’d guess season ticket investors, err holders (laugh) are down below 5,000 now, that’s brutal, but they dug their own hole.

By Bob

October 15, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this

good to see our former Atlanta Knights goalie Mike Greenlay is doing well as their color commentator

yes, that was very cool, brought back some great memories.

Anyone else concerned about Christensen? Just like last year, he’s showing me nothing that says he’s a top line center in this league. Mabye flip Little to 2nd line center and move Christensen to winger? Now you can see why Coach put White as our top line center.

By ranallo10 (in AT)

October 15, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this

“(Jagr) went with [Cherepanov] into the dressing room area and they revived him for some time and then he didn’t make it.”

Absolutely horrible. Jagr’s gotta go to sleep knowing the last thing he said to this kid was something to the effect of “you gotta score on that [2 on 1]”.

Crazy.

By WW5

October 15, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this

looks like our boy letemin is still on track from last season. maybe he will average giving up 4 goals a game this year. better get the head shrinker ready and make sure moose is in shape.

By Smoothie

October 15, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this

As for last night’s game…the guys actually lost this game in the second period. They came out flat with no energy and it showed. They weren’t pressuring in either the neutral zone much less the offensive zone. They let Minnesota dictate the play and it ultimately resulted in a ridiculous slew of penalties

Bravo Sara, Bravo!! Well said and very spot on analysis! JA has already said on several occasions that a system change like this WILL take some time. It is not only a system change but a complete paradigm shift in thinking. My take is that, when bad things happen or mental fatigue gets the best of them, they are falling back on old habits and instincts because the more aggressive, attack-relentlessly-no-matter-what mentality has not fully taken root.

Like Sara said, the Thrashers played very well in the 1st period and some of the puck movement and passing I witnessed was the best I have seen from a Thrasher team since 2005-2006 season. Passes were crisp and on the tape the entire period and if not for a couple of brilliant saves by Backstrom and another “pipe-job” (Colby’s 3 on 1), the Thrashers may very well have lead 2-1 at the break.

Problem is that the late 1st period penalty set the tone for the 2nd. Starting a period on the PK can do two things. It can swing momentum thanks to an aggressive kill or it can lead to a more passive, sit-back-and-wait-for-something-to-happen mentality. JA said that excessive penalties would be their biggest obstacle because their attacking style is predicated on aggressive, keep-the-pressure-on offensive flow.

There are going to be ups and downs for sure, but the good I’m seeing far outweighs the bad I watched all season long last year. Now the bad we saw in the 2nd and 3rd periods last nite certainly outstripped the good we saw in the opening stanza. But tell me this, how many times did we score on a play in which a wing was rewarded for streaking to the opposite pipe for a diagonal pass. I don’t think I recall three plays like that ALL OF LAST YEAR. So far this year we already have three such plays.

By Alan

October 15, 2008 10:56 AM | Link to this

Anaheim Ducks prospect was roughed up by a Michigan football player. Despicable. The prospect has a fractured skull as a result of the incident.

By Doeringer

October 15, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this

I know we are not built as a bruising team, but can we not even bump someone off the puck once in a while. Saw a lot of the Wild skate up and down the boards without even a nudge. It is hockey right?

By Smoothie

October 15, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this

Anyone else concerned about Christensen? Just like last year, he’s showing me nothing that says he’s a top line center in this league. Mabye flip Little to 2nd line center and move Christensen to winger?

Bob, I would like to echo my concern for EC’s lack of chemistry with any of his linemates thus far. He is a lot like a young Kovy in that too much of his game is about freelancing and free-wheeling in hopes of creating something out of nothing. He needs to start doing more to set up his mates.

But I don’t like the idea of taking Little off the 1st line. Little is showing that he deserves to play 1st line minutes and we’re starting to see the fruits of his speed, passing and grit. To me, he’s exemplifying the exact characteristics you want to see at RW opposite Kovy. I think White is playing much better than last year and deserves more time to gel with both Kovy and Lits.

As for the 2nd line, why not slide EC over to RW and let Williams handle the pivot duties? He seems to be a pretty good faceoff guy and perhaps having the added responsibility will instill in him a more aggressive tack. He seems to be floating around too much waiting for someone to give him the perfect feed.

But I think the 2nd line needs more time to come together. Kozzy is definitely closer to his ‘06-‘07 form than his form of last year. He’s making good decisions and his skill at passing will continue to pay off. But we need EC (and to a certain degree JW) to be more aggressive in the corners and along the boards. I don’t know, perhaps the answer is to let Army play RW alongside EC to help free him up as a playmaker in space??

By Spud Webb

October 15, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this

Rawhide come on! The Sabres will be in the playoffs, they look good & are talented. Just need Miller to play consistant all year!!! 3 good lines and a punishing 4th line! Love it. Sara is right on, I agree with all of her post! Love watching Little this year, he is the most improved, by far. Giving great effort and showing some skills. Good for him.

By Rawhide

October 15, 2008 12:08 PM | Link to this

Spud Webb - Sabres do look good and I had a hard time not finding a spot in the top eight for them.

So tell me…if you put them in the playoffs…then who do you think drops out of the top eight to make room for them?

Washington?

Carolina?

Boston?

As for Little…I agree with 100% with all the great things said of him. He’s showing early on he deserves to be here.

By Alan

October 15, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this

Rawhide - I think the Devils or Rangers won’t be as good as you’ve predicted, so the Sabers could easily steal one of those spots.

Last night, we looked absolutely awesome in the first period, but the last two were dismal. The PP looked like death warmed over, but the PK (with the help of Lehtonen) looked much better than before, limiting Minnesota to just one goal on five tries.

Here’s to hoping we can send Frankencaptain and the Devils away with a loss tomorrow night!

By Scott

October 15, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this

Sara How were you able to see the Minnesota broadcast. I have DTV and center-ice and the game was blacked out last night. This is a departure from last year when if SS was not broadcasting the game and the opposing team was, I could see it on center ice. I even called DTV last night and they read some blurb about the blackout restrictions.

Does anyone have any ideas on what can be done, either through DTV, Thrashers, or NHL to allow viewing of these games?

By Sara

October 15, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this

Scott I dunno - I have Charter so perhaps different rules apply?

I tell ya what I’m not looking forward to and that’s when VS starts staking their claims on games and then don’t broadcast them so no one gets to see squat. Maybe that will be one benefit of having sucked last season - VS won’t option any of our games so we can at least get the opponent’s Center Ice feeds.

By Rawhide

October 15, 2008 12:59 PM | Link to this

Alan - I would agree about the Devils…but not the Rangers. That team is…and will remain…kick-a$$!!

By ranallo10 (in AT)

October 15, 2008 1:10 PM | Link to this

Gaborik’s goal last night was rather impressive (I just watched the replays). Very nice stick lift and quick release on a veteran defender.

By NASCAR Dave

October 15, 2008 1:21 PM | Link to this

Did you see that goof get home from the game last night on the other blog and try to claim that 11,800 or whatever attendance they announced was the same as last year? What a maroon, that was the smallest crowd I’ve ever seen at any Thrashers’ reg. season game, by far. I’ve seen bigger crowds at preseason games, even Knobler talked about it in his column today.

Yep. Sure did. My girl and I counted 11 people in 116 towards the end of the 1st… By the 3rd, it looked like several people moved down from the Upper Levels, so you had about 20-30 people there, total. OTHER BOB’s argument is Completely INVALID because I even saw empty seats in 116 on Opening Night… So clearly, his quote that “Every single person in 116 renewed their season tickets” is a FLAT OUT LIE!!! LOL

Uh according to you earlier this offseason you weren’t a contributing blogger last year, remember?

Uh RANNALLO, quit acting stupid man… You know I was here last year. Remember who told you HOSSA was leaving??? That was me. Remember who called out SARA when she made the silly statement “As for Hossa, he’s not going Anywhere”??? Yep, that was me. Get your facts straight, fool and enough with the (in AT) junk - I think we all know where you are, And I don’t think any of us care!!! LOL

By J(Z)

October 15, 2008 1:56 PM | Link to this

I sat about 10 feet from Bogosian last night. After thae 4th goal (I think) when Oystrick fell down and led to a mini-breakaway and a goal, I leaned over to him and said…please tell me you’ll be back out there Thursday night! He said “I hope so!”. Oystrick definitely didn’t look good. But Havelid’s had 2 good games and 1 bad game I think. Calm down. A d-man rotation where all of them get a game off every 6 or 7 games wouldn’t be a horrible idea.

By The Other Bob

October 15, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this

Uh, actually, NASCARDave, that “goof” was Bob(OTHER). Not me.

Please, please do not confuse us.

By Alan

October 15, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this

Sounds like a good attitude from Bogosian. I was lukewarm to Oystrick overall.

By ranallo10 (in AT)

October 15, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this

I’ll make a deal with you Dave…

You drop the NASCAR junk, and the all caps and bold junk, and I’ll drop the (in AT).

By NASCAR Dave

October 15, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this

Sorry THE OTHER BOB… You’re right. That was LEVENSON, I mean BOB (OTHER). And yes, he is a GOOF!!! lol

After thae 4th goal (I think) when Oystrick fell down and led to a mini-breakaway and a goal, I leaned over to him and said…please tell me you’ll be back out there Thursday night! He said “I hope so!”.

I hope so too… COACH should sit down one of the Swedes… I’d like to see OYSTRICK for 1 more game at least… My girl LOVES BOGOSIAN… She says he is cute eye candy, lol, however, her favorite player is still MIKE MODANO on DAL.

By Russian

October 15, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this

I saw that we got very many empty seats. NOT good!!! I am just wondering if anybody has a FREE tickets for Saturday. I will bring whole family and relatives and Friends. Just let me knon how many FREE tickets I can get. Thank you.

By NASCAR Dave

October 15, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this

I saw that we got very many empty seats. NOT good!!! I am just wondering if anybody has a FREE tickets for Saturday. I will bring whole family and relatives and Friends. Just let me knon how many FREE tickets I can get. Thank you.

Yeah I agree. Maybe they should just give out Free tickets to everyone that shows up, because its OBVIOUS nobody is INVESTING (lol, snicker) in Tickets…

WHY is THAT???

And according to This Link, Provided by our very own BOB, this seems to be a constant issue every year with us… Very interesting…

And I have to agree with BOB here - I’ll be willing to bet that those figures from that article have since skyrocketed, based on last year’s disasterous season… And I know for me (just as an example), I can get FREE tickets anytime I want… But I always decline (except occasionally for Weekend games when I’m not in Athens at a DAWGS game or out of town at a Race or Business Trip)… Me personally, I would just prefer to watch at home on my new HD Flatscreen on Center Ice, and not help out the Incompetent Owners by spending my hard earned money on their overpriced crap food and beverages (except on the Club Level - They have some good stuff there, but it is STILL overpriced…

The Economy is faltering right now, and spending money to watch the same PROBLEMS as last year’s team is just not a high priority for the logical fans at this time…

RANNALLO - No dice!!! :D

By kracker

October 15, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this

Scott I also got the CI Minney-sooo-ta feed on Charter Cable. I was seeing the “free preview” crawl throughout the game, though.

Couriously, I could listen to Kamal on 680 during the first period. His call on the radio audio was only 2 seconds or so ahead of the action, the same as a SportSouth game. But in the second period, Kamal was maybe 8 or 9 seconds ahead so I had to turn down the radio. Then in the third, it was back to the timing of the first period. Maybe some techie turned on the 7-second radio delay they use for call-in shows during the 1st intermission?

By Nikita

October 15, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this

I honestly don’t know why our tickets aren’t cheaper. They’re about mid-level with the NHL, but that includes many teams with long-term STHs and traditional markets. Plus, I imagine it costs the same to staff half a crowd as a full crowd, and a full crowd would spend far more money on concessions and merch, which is where the money is traditionally made. Can you imagine what a full house, or even just a full lower bowl, would do for team morale?

By Sara

October 15, 2008 4:01 PM | Link to this

Actually Nikita once you factor in all the promotions, our tickets are pretty cheap. The face value is high. That allows AS to get top dollar from the die-hard crowd, then generate whatever they can via individual game ticket sales for those who are more elastic in their demand. In general it sounds like a sound business strategy - in reality it’s blowing up in their faces.

By Tony C.

October 15, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this

Alan-

Have you seen NYR this season? they look good the kid Dubinsky seems to be coming into his own, and anytime Scotty Gomez feels confident enough to go to the far post and set-up camp-well things aren’t looking good for the opposition.

I think that as long as their blueline remains healthy, & continue to keep the O-fence rolling (not hard with all the creative players they have) they’ve got to be considered one of the top 4 teams in the conference!

By ranallo10 (in AT)

October 15, 2008 4:18 PM | Link to this

A lack of attendance will not replace a GM.

There, I’ve said it.

Give me one example of a GM who was run out of town because of low attendance. I’m not saying it’s never happened, but I can’t think of one example where the ownership sat down and said “You know (insert GMs name), we’ve been dealing with everything you’ve done over the years but this attendance figure is the last straw. You’re fired.”

You can do all the equations you want about how a bad GM equals a bad on ice product which equals less fans attending which equals…whatever. I don’t buy it for a second that an ownership group, especially THIS ownership group, will fire a GM over attendance records for a team that is notoriously low in attendance already.

In my opinion it all boils down to if/when this ownership grows a collective brain and starts to run the franchise something other than a bottom line organization. Attendance can be zero (like the Florida Marlins), yet the GM can still remain. A GM that can maintain a bottom line and not complain is exactly what this ownership looks for, thus they continue to employee Waddell.

DAVVE — Too bad, I would’ve dropped it in a heartbeat if you would’ve agreed to that deal. I guess you’re stuck with it now…you had your chance.

By Bob

October 15, 2008 4:19 PM | Link to this

Have you seen NYR this season?

I have, and you’re right, they look good and that makes me a sour hockey fan. I don’t know who I dislike more, the BlueSkirts or the DeadThings.

That Pens-Flyers tilt was entertaining last night, I love watching those two hook up, good call by VS to pickup that game.

By Spud Webb

October 15, 2008 7:54 PM | Link to this

Rawhide good point. I’d love it if the Habs fell apart!!! Not going to happen, at least Toronto stinks!!!! Maybe Jersey? Tough question. Someone else pointed out, the Rangers look stacked. I hate them but have to say look like a team that could challenge the Habs. Watching the sabres vs rangers now. UGH, I HATE LOSING TO THE RANGERS.

By Sage of Bluesland

October 15, 2008 8:40 PM | Link to this

“…You can do all the equations you want about how a bad GM equals a bad on ice product which equals less fans attending which equals…whatever. I don’t buy it for a second that an ownership group, especially THIS ownership group, will fire a GM over attendance records for a team that is notoriously low in attendance already….”

Ranallosheep attempts to obfuscate like our brilliant Donny does—and I think he’s a bit better at it than our bumbling joke of a GM.

However, the point remains: STOP SUBSIDIZING THE INCOMPETENCE…The enablers are doing more damage than good…

It’s now become a ‘sheep-or-egg’ question: Are we pitiful because of poor ownership or the poor decisions made by the entrusted hockey ‘experts’?

Every dollar you spend on that poor excuse for a franchise is a dollar wasted…Wasted…

By Smitty

October 15, 2008 10:13 PM | Link to this

Sabres spanked the Rangers at MSG tonite. Gave up about 20 shots. I do not often disagree with you Rawhide but the Sabres will challenge this year. The Sabres have proven you can win building from within. They lost their 2 top centers last year and still look pretty good this year because they gave their young guys a chance to play last year. Obviously DW is no Darcy Raiger but I think JA can be as good as Lindy Ruff if Randy Cunneyworth is listened to.

By ranallo10 (in AT)

October 15, 2008 10:21 PM | Link to this

Sage — You realize I don’t spend any money on the Thrashers, right?

Smitty — I’m curious what Cunneyworth has added to the system thus far.

By Smitty

October 15, 2008 10:37 PM | Link to this

Ranallo 10 You make a good point in regards to this year. The point I was trying to make is the Sabres are a bunch of unknown over achieving players. Most of them grew up through the Sabre system, a wide open system coached in Rochester by Cunneyworth.

By Spud Webb

October 15, 2008 10:57 PM | Link to this

I realize this is a thrashers blog but I WOULD LOVE if the Thrashers had a 4th line like the Sabres. They bust &ss’, draw penalties and just get under the skin. Peters is a goon, no doubt, but Mair & Kaleta go after it and have a decent amount of skills. LOVE IT. Thank god hockey is back!!!! Feel like I’m alive again!!!

By Hookybob

October 15, 2008 11:05 PM | Link to this

Stars Brunstrom gets a hat-trick in his NHL debut. Rawhide is this why you picked the Stars to win the west?

Does anyone know what sealed the deal for Brunnstrom to pick Dallas?

By Rawhide

October 15, 2008 11:10 PM | Link to this

Spud Webb - True, it’s a “Thrashers” blog. However, any comments and discussion of NHL teams…AHL teams…ECHL teams…International hockey…Bantam hockey at the Ice Forum…ANY hockey…are always welcome!!!

Smitty - Your disagreement with me about the Sabres has been noted and logged. So…you are now banned!

LOL!!!!

Seriously…would I be surprised if Buffalo made it in? No, not at all…but only eight can and those are my predictons.

So…if Buffalo is in…who, according to my predictions, is out?

HookyBob - sitting back…lighting cigar…blowing back out pillows of smoke… Yes, my boy…as you can see…I clearly saw this coming.

By Smitty

October 15, 2008 11:33 PM | Link to this

I predicted ATL with 92 points to win the division. The Sabres will also be in and Carolina and the Bruins will be out.

By Rawhide

October 15, 2008 11:38 PM | Link to this

Smitty - I would like nothing more than to see your prediction come true!!

By R. Stroz

October 16, 2008 12:14 AM | Link to this

Pardon the Interruption

I would like to thank all those that prayed for my father to get well. As of late yesterday evening, my father came home after spending 48 days at Kennestone Hospital.

The many prayers showed that despite our philosophical differences concerning the Thrashers; at the end of the day, we are all compassionate individuals, who in a rather peculiar way, are an extended family.

Thank you again for your heartfelt prayers for my father and our family.

By Alan

October 16, 2008 1:28 AM | Link to this

I’m happy to hear he’s out of the hospital, Stroz!

I’m hoping the Thrashers win the next one for him.

By Sara

October 16, 2008 7:24 AM | Link to this

HookyBob Brunnstrom wanted a guaranteed roster spot - and preferably one that gives him significant ice time. Ultimately he was looking for the best team that could do that and felt like Dallas was the one.

By Brendan

October 16, 2008 8:15 AM | Link to this

Your attention please, (tapping the side of the glass, then realizing just what an annoying and ineffective practice it really is,) Your attention please. Allright, I’d hoped it wouldn’t come to this: “Pi is ‘exactly’ 3.0!” (The blog GASPS!) Sorry, I won’t do that again.

But if you’ve already had ‘just about enough’ of Darren Eliot’s pedantic speeches and JP Dellacamera’s shameless kowtowing to them, I call your attention to Center Ice’s New Jersey Devils feed. For you Comcast Center Ice subscribers, that’s channel 780. I can’t promise you it will be any BETTER, but I’m preeeetty suuure they won’t say the word, “hockey stick,” 13 times per broadcast, to clarify it from all the other kinds of sticks that hockey players might be using. Pogo stick, anyone? Allriiightee then.

Carry on!

By glovesave29

October 16, 2008 8:34 AM | Link to this

Every dollar you spend on that poor excuse for a franchise is a dollar wasted…Wasted…

So I took my 7 year old daughter to opening night. We went out to dinner, cheered on 7 goals, saw some nice saves. She runs around Philips in her Kovalchuk jersey asking where he is and can we meet him. By the end of the first, she already is looking at the schedule for another weekend game we can go to. At the end of the night, I get big doe eyes from her and she tells me “thank you, Daddy”. It is all she has talked about since…

Y’know Sage, I for one would consider that time and money well spent. A lot of people would agree with me. If you want to stay home and mope like a little baby and think that anyone at all misses your presence, go for it. But cut the silly comments about those of us who decide to go to a game now and again. I lived here when the Flames left, went almost two decades of long road trips to Washington, St. Louis, Tampa, Chicago, Calgary and San Jose just to see hockey. What does that make me…A TRUE FAN. Not a sheep. I have voiced my displeasure with DW. But the thought of not going to see the game I love in my hometown outweighs any beef I have with him.

How about adding something of value to this blog other than trashing those who disagree with you. Bring something to the table. Show us you actually know something about this sport other than how not to drive to Philips to go to a game. If you are going to claim to be a “Sage”…than be so. Offer something…ANYTHING….

By Nikita

October 16, 2008 8:53 AM | Link to this

Hmmm. A sheep, really? You know, I am a true fan of hockey, period. The Thrash are my favorite. But I also see the Ice Dogs, the Lynx, and so on. I don’t really care who’s running the team, actually. I mean, I do, but that won’t change the essential nature of my being, which is that of someone who loves hockey and loves our team. I don’t even really base my ticket purchases on whether we’re likely to win or lose.

Stroz, I am glad to hear your dad is better. I hope that as he has improved, so will the girlfriend we’re all pulling for as well. And I agree — the Thrashers shold win a few for them.

It’s so awesome the Devils are coming down to Georgia — now, if only Miroslav Satan played on that team, we’d have more opportunities for puns than we could stand.

By glovesave29

October 16, 2008 9:09 AM | Link to this

Great, Nitika…I agree. We go to games because we love the sport. I just take umbrage with the name calling for those who disagree with this so called “Sage”. If you he has a point to make, great…let’s debate. But there is no way to have a discussion with someone who just falls back to the lowest form…name calling.

By Nikita

October 16, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this

There’s just so many problems with the name “Sage of Blueland.” First, there’s the arrogance of calling yourself a sage. I mean, why don’t I just call myself The Infinitely Wise Nikita? Second, “of Blueland” seems to be a misnomer, as Sage seems to repeatedly make it clear that he/she doesn’t actually enter Blueland. Third and most importantly, every post to or from Sage is a post that’s not about anything positive regarding the Thrashers.

So…who’s in goal tonight? I think this will be an interesting match for several reasons — the Holik factor (and I do love that interview, in which Holik turns his tongue on himself), NJ’s defensive prowess, and our historical record against the Devils. Plus, you know, the puns.

By ranallo10 (in AT)

October 16, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

glovesave, Nikita — True.

My only statement about the idea of being a “true” fan is that it’s an unfair or inaccurate statement. Every person has the right to be a fan in what ever way they deem fit. Attending 30+ games a year for multiple teams doesn’t make a person any more of a “true” fan than the person who works a night shift, can never make a game, but sits at work listening to the game rooting their favorite team on to victory.

I understand what you mean by “true” fan, but perhaps the term should be “passionate” fan, or some other synonym that doesn’t rule someone out because of their level of involvement, knowledge, etc, compared to your own. Everyone here is a hockey fan, that’s obvious. We all get enjoyment out of the hockey team in one way or another. So, while I may disagree with a person who derives enjoyment out of watching the team lose just so he/she can say “I told you so” (stares at a few choice bloggers), that person is not LESS of a fan than I am, or anyone else for that matter.

Anyway, I’m glad to hear about your little girl’s great time at Philips, glovesave. Those are the moments that I truly look forward to when it comes time for the future Mrs. 10 and I to raise our children. What’s nice is that I will still enjoy hockey, attending the games, and hopefully playing. I wont be letting my enjoyment ruined by some person who I fundamentally disagree with, just because they think something about me or my friends due to our choice of how we spend our own money. And name calling? Yeah, I remember having my feelings hurt by name calling back in 3rd grade. Believe it or not, that wasn’t last year, so “sheep” just makes me laugh because the individual thinks it does anything but make him look pedantic.

Now, back to your regularly scheduled blogging…

By Scotty

October 16, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this

“Sage of Blueland”. Yeah, the boy does have a disturbing infatuation with sheep, doesn’t he?

By Bob

October 16, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this

stroz, great news about your father. Never underestimate the power of prayer.

I don’t buy it for a second that an ownership group, especially THIS ownership group, will fire a GM over attendance records for a team that is notoriously low in attendance already

Sage, who said that? That just might just be the most inane thing I’ve read on here, oh wait, I forgot about Section 116 being sold out with all of those investors, goofy still has that trophy locked up for the year I think.

But that is so naive it’s mind boggling. After all, why would an owner fire a manager for losing 60% of his business’ customers?

By Alan

October 16, 2008 10:20 AM | Link to this

It looks like Ron Wilson is already encountering some sour Leafs fans. Unfortunately, for this fan, Wilson can dish it right back out.

By Nikita

October 16, 2008 10:39 AM | Link to this

Let me rephrase to remove the word “true” — I am a passionate fan, and I am a fan of the sport and the people who play it. I should have said “truly” — as in my primary motivation is truly the sport of hockey, not personalities or win/loss records or who pays the bills. I’m pretty much affected by logistics and geography and shared history and various sporting qualities that I perceive in players — but I do not think Don Waddell and I have a relationship, or that he personally lets me down, or that I should punish the team for it by depriving them of a cheering fan. I enjoy and support it at every level except junior hockey, and that’s only because we no longer have a junior hockey team. So I can’t relate to someone calling me a sheep for reasons that are peripheral to my strong and mostly unadulterated love of hockey.

Also, personally, I don’t make a lot of games. I live 60 miles away. I try to see each of “my” Georgia teams (which is to say the Ice Dogs, all the farm league teams except the Glads, and the Thrashers) in the arena once a season, and the Thrashers once a month or so. Otherwise it’s ye olde booth at Applebee’s or SPSO and Vs. at home or XM.

Scotty…he talks about the sheep all the time. But does he love them? Naa-aaa-aaa-aaa-aahhhhhh.

Brendan, I work with this lovely person from Toronto who always says “ice hockey.” But I’m pretty sure that most of my coworkers don’t have any idea that there are other types of hockey.

By glovesave29

October 16, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this

Hey Ranallo, I see your point. I meant nothing against anyone else by calling myself a “true fan”. I am just saying that that is path I chose. If someone does not have the means to do what I did, but instead chooses to watch on TV or follow them in the AJC - they are no less of a fan. Change it from “true” to “passionate” - that is fine with me, but the point I tried to make is the same…that those of us who want to go see the game live are fans, not sheep as our “sage” would have us be known.

Nikita - I thank you for finally saying that. I have always disliked the moniker “sage” as what it entails that the rest of us are. If you can be the “Infinitely Wise Nikita”, I would like to apply for “The end all and be all world according to Glovesave29”

By Spud Webb

October 16, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this

R. Stroz that is great news. Hope all continues to go well. glovesave fantastic posts. That is awesome that your daughter had such a good time.

By ranallo10 (in AT)

October 16, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this

The end all and be all world according to Glovesave29 and Infinitely Wise Nikita — Thanks for the adjustments, I just had to get that out there. As you may have noticed over the time you’ve been here I’m the type of person who will defend a point or person, even if I don’t necessarily agree with said point or person. I am a firm believer that nobody is wrong when it comes to opinion or preference, we’re just different. So, the “true” fan shtick gets annoying to me, due to it’s perceived elitist connotation.

So, thanks for altering your words and expressing your opinions in a more appropriate manner, I respect that.

Bob — I said it, chalk it up on your inane Ranallo World posts. If you would’ve read the rest of it I genuinely asked if anyone could give me an example of a GM being fired over attendance. I’m of the belief that while a GM does directly influence the on ice talent, he doesn’t directly influence the development of said talent, or how said talent meshes with the coaches and their system of play. A GM gives the pieces, the coach makes due.

In my opinion a good GM is one that can give the best pieces to his coach, that will play well in their defined system. True, Waddell isn’t perfect at this, but that’s not the discussion. The discussion is that you and others believe attendance numbers will drive Waddell out of town, to which I disagree. My proof is that this team has almost always had poor attendance, has almost always had a sub-par franchise, and has continued the employment of one Don Waddell.

So, does that mean that this year, with continued bad attendance, it’ll finally click and the ownership group will think “hmmm, the fans don’t like Waddell, maybe we should look elsewhere for a GM”…or does it make more sense that the ownership group will look at the attendance figure as one of the many benchmarks for success that they hold Waddell to, and chalk it up as a “bad market” as opposed to a failure of a GM.

Based on track record and my perception of the way the ownership groups run this franchise, they will not fire a GM based solely on his attendance record. He fields a somewhat competitive team with a constrained budget, he doesn’t throw ownership under the bus but rather takes the blame himself, he’s a nice guy (goes a long way with apparent jerks as his boss), etc.

If attendance was a deciding factor towards a GMs employment, John Ferguson Jr. would’ve never been fired.

By Alan

October 16, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this

Chicago Blackhawks coach Denis Savard has been shown the door, according to NHL Live. I’ll post a link as soon as I find one.

By Rawhide

October 16, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this

Alan Interesting…I’m looking for that story on-line as well.

I’ll bet if it is indeed true…Joel Quenneville is atop the list of replacements.

By Alan

October 16, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this

Nothing of any substance so far, but you can check back here and here for future details, I’m sure.

By Sara

October 16, 2008 12:26 PM | Link to this

Here ya go Alan

Wow, who saw that coming? Of all the coaches that might have been on the hotseat, I wouldn’t have pegged Savard. Wonder who they’ll tap as his replacement.

By Sara

October 16, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this

To answer my own question, Quenneville - good call RH.

By Alan

October 16, 2008 12:31 PM | Link to this

I tried to post that earlier, Sara, but my browser crashed and I’m not sure if or when it will come through.

As far as seeing it coming, really, I’m dumbfounded. I thought he did a really good job with them last year. I wonder if there were some ownership or GM related feathers that were ruffled by him that caused his ousting. I think maybe the Blackhawks just needed some time to gel together, much like the Thrashers and some of the other teams who didn’t quite make the playoffs last year.

By glovesave29

October 16, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this

So let me get this straight…Savard is fired by a GM who signs a free agent goalie to a HUGE contract when he already has a goalie with an EVEN BIGGER contract that has another year remaining - thus causing his team to have to sell off some valuable assets to get under the cap. Ok, THAT makes sense!

By Alan

October 16, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this

glovesave - The happenings in Chicago sort of seems like deja vu, don’t you think?

By Rawhide

October 16, 2008 12:59 PM | Link to this

sitting back…lighting cigar…blowing back out pillows of smoke… Ah… yeah, Sara…well…you know.

So…if Nikita gets to have “Infinitely Wise” in front of her name and glovesave29 gets to have “The end all and be all world according to” in front of his…can I get a title too?

Maybe…”The all all-knowing, great and powerful…”???

or “the omniscient and omnipresent” behind my name??

Or…does the bold blue letters simply imply all that and anything else is just a tad over-the-top?

By Brendan

October 16, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this

It seems awfully early to be firing a coach. I wonder if there wasn’t some “personality clashing” going on? The Blackhawks are far from “hopelessly out of it” or in ‘dire need’ to make a change. One pundit actually said Barry Melrose would be the first HC to be fired.

Nikita, I grew up with street hockey, which the legendary Ken Dryden calls “ball hockey.” It would strike me as odd to hear hockey referred to as “Ice Hockey.” I would never say, “Are you going to the ice hockey game?” Shivers. Well, I suppose if we had roller hockey in Atlanta, at least a case could be made for making the distinction.

Ranallo, remember what Bruce Levenson said in his interview with The Onion last April. “If you fans, in Atlanta, would stop yelling ‘Knights!’ during the national anthem, for five (5) straight games, I promise to fire Waddell. But if you only make it to four(4) games in-a-row, you go RIGHT BACK TO ZERO!! And Waddell stays.”

The Onion: “What if the fans in Atlanta simply CANNOT ABSTAIN from screaming ‘Knights!’ during the anthem?

Levenson: (Rubbing his hands together) “Then Waddell stays … FOREVER and EVER and EVER,” just like Mr. Grady’s girls at the Overlook Hotel, in the movie, “The Shining.”

I contacted Paul Harvey News to run this as one of their “Rest of the Story (TM)” items, but they politely declined.

By ranallo10 (in AT)

October 16, 2008 1:10 PM | Link to this

glovesave — I think the current GM is merely cleaning house, getting his people into place. Savard didn’t throw the franchise under the bus yet with his statements about being fired, so I would imagine this wasn’t a completely acrimonious split. It seems that Quenneville was hired as a scout for just this reason, if he gets hired as Savard’s replacement.

Alan — I wouldn’t draw too many parallels. Hartley didn’t play 8 to 10 rookies in one season, and generate a chemistry of sorts with those players. He did the opposite, for the most part. Savard coached a team with two super rookies and plenty of young talent to a fine year, and had a slow start to this season. If anything, I think he was heading in the right direction, where as Hartley’s Thrashers didn’t seem to be heading in any direction at all.

A stagnant system, a 0-6 start to the season, and an uninspired playoff “appearance” (had I not seen it with my own eyes I wouldn’t have believed the Thrashers actually played in those four games) in which the team got swept…I would say that all added up to Hartley’s departure, however correct it may/may not have been. In the end, I think this franchise is in a better situation with Anderson at the helm, even if he’s an unproven coach at the NHL level. I will take Cunneyworth and Anderson over Hartley and McCrimmon for this team at this stage of the franchise’s life.

By glovesave29

October 16, 2008 1:12 PM | Link to this

Yes it does Alan…but to an even greater degree!

No way, Rawhide…go over the top. WAAAAAAAY over the top. “His Excellency, King of all hockey blogs and ruler over all of us lowly, unknowing peasants and serfs” is a good start.

By Alan

October 16, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this

I wouldn’t draw too many parallels.

Not my intention. The only real parallel is that they were both fired after a disappointing start. Both coaches should have been given more time to hang themselves, or in Savard’s case, see if he could get the team running on all cylinders.

By ranallo10 (in AT)

October 16, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this

Brendan — I wouldn’t put it past Levenson to think along those lines…

As for the great pundit that predicted Melrose being the first to go. To my recollection that was the amazingly astute Adam Muir, who in the same article found a way to bash the Thrashers two or three different ways. Way to go Mr. Muir, you did a helluva job predicting THIS one!

Rawhide — The blue lettering let’s us all know it without you saying it, but I think it’d be smart for you to add glovesave’s recommended title to your post name…for the hard of reading/comprehending.

Nikita and Brendan — I have to use “ice hockey” here in Austria, and I still get the blank stares as if I’m speaking Mandarin. In Atlanta I would say hockey but sometimes would get the response “wait, field hockey?”, so I found myself naturally saying “ice” hockey just so that I wouldn’t have to field any silly questions.

But, when at a hockey game, I would expect anybody watching to know that “stick” is regarding the tool being used by players on the ice, and not the Blue Crew.

By Sara

October 16, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this

So if RH is King…who fills out the rest of the court?? I can think of several good suggestions for the jester.

By glovesave29

October 16, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

Ranallo - Tallon was the one that signed Khabibulin AND hired Savard. These ARE his own people.

By Alan

October 16, 2008 1:34 PM | Link to this

remember what Bruce Levenson said in his interview with The Onion last April

If you can post a link to this, I’d love to see it. My google-fu skills are weak this afternoon.

By ranallo10 (in AT)

October 16, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this

Alan — Very true, both coaches seemed to be fired a tad too early into the season. With Hartley’s firing I was of the belief that he simply needed more time, but I wasn’t completely against his removal. It was four games too early in my opinion, but going 0-10 including a playoff sweep is a good amount of time to make your own case.

Had Anderson been hired immediately I think the sting of the firing would’ve been less, instead of that period where the team was playing without a real head coach. Who knows if the Thrashers could’ve rebounded — based on the way they’re playing now I don’t think they would have learned Anderson’s system until the trade deadline, which would not have helped the team attempt to get back into the playoffs.

By Brendan

October 16, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this

Can I nominate PJ for Queen?

Alan, first I have to get The Onion to write it. Err, I have to write it FOR the Onion, and then get them to publish it. I think the site is www.theonion.com. Once you read a few items, you’ll get the gist of it.

By ranallo10 (in AT)

October 16, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this

glovesave — I was referring to the new puppet masters, little Bowman and his father. I understand that Tallon is still the GM, but I think his previous decisions are being looked at a lot more closely now that Bowman I and II are in charge.

Khabibulan was a mistake of a contract, one that never should’ve been made. Tallon did the right thing in signing Huet (a better goalie in my opinion), but he then handcuffed himself because he cannot get rid of Khabibulan’s contract. The subsequent maneuvering was to get under the cap, and should be looked down upon in my opinion. Just like Burke signing players to ridiculous contracts then trying to shed payroll by purging his overpaid veterans, Tallon has made his own bed.

I’ll be surprised if he lasts another year in Chicago, honestly. I think it’s apparent that little Bowman is there to stay, and is making quite a name for himself. Now that Dad is there to support and guide him, it’s only a matter of time.

The question is, will Tallon be fired before or after Waddell. That’d be an interesting bet to take.

By Brendan

October 16, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this

I vote for Tallon getting fired before Waddell does.

By glovesave29

October 16, 2008 2:25 PM | Link to this

Brendan…I have always been a fan of the Onion. I love the sarcasm…never subscribed, but ready it on line religiously. If you want a good laugh, check out this one…

http://www.theonion.com/content/news/fallingdownlaundrychuteand

Ranallo - isn’t the younger Bowman very sick? I thought I’d read somewhere that he was fighting cancer and that’s why Scotty took the Chicago job - to be closer to his son.

By Alan

October 16, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this

Once you read a few items, you’ll get the gist of it.

Hva?

Que?

What?

I thought we’ve had discussions about The Onion in the past. Maybe I was sleep-blogging or something, though. I do know what it is… I just couldn’t find your cited article on the site.

I vote for Tallon getting fired before Waddell does.

Seconded.

By Bob

October 16, 2008 2:29 PM | Link to this

I vote for Tallon getting fired before Waddell does

Which will come first, hell freezing over, the owners settling their dispute, or Waddell getting fired?

I think they happen in that chronological order, hell, owners, Donny.

By ranallo10 (in AT)

October 16, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this

Brendan — At the rate this ownership group is going, that’s a safe bet to make. I think it’s safe to assume cancer will be cured or dogs will learn English before Waddell is fired.

Re: The Onion — Click on Brendan’s link and watch the video with about the boyscouts offering to do breast exams…quality stuff right there.

glovesave — I haven’t heard that.

By glovesave29

October 16, 2008 2:32 PM | Link to this

Sara…you might like this. I recall you complaining about the NHL’s marketing department…

*Here’s today’s conspiracy theory, courtesy of Chris Chelios’ appearance with JJ & Lynne on WCSX-FM (94.7).

Remember when Def Leppard’s Joe Elliott set the Stanley Cup upside down on the stage during last week’s “NHL Face-Off Rocks” show at the Fox Theatre?

“Someone should have drove that guy, he did that on purpose,” Cheli said Wednesday.

J.J.: “You think he did it on purpose?”

“No, we know he did … we talked to people at the show and the guy was being real rude to everybody,” Chelios said. “He was in a bad mood when they got there, so for whatever reason he didn’t want to be there. And that’s his way of showing it and taking it out on the NHL. …*

By ranallo10 (in AT)

October 16, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this

Nobody has mentioned this yet, but Nikita Filatov has been called up to the NHL.

Bob McKenzie of TSN thinks he’s ready now, and can make an impact.

Good luck to Filatov and the Jackets, they could use another superstar in the mix, especially after giving away Zherdev for nothing. (It still irks me that he went to the Rangers, I would’ve loved to see Atlanta get that kid)

By ranallo10 (in AT)

October 16, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this

Sara — Quincey was claimed by LA…you never updated us on that! I believe they were 0-2 when the claim was put in, so they likely had one of the first shots at claiming him.

By PJ

October 16, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this

Brendan Queen?? Well yeah it has it’s perks but I always wanted to wield a sword. As for you, I see you as the Hockey Guru with the electronically controlled pillow that beeps when it back up…. Marishka Haratay, Brendan.

Moving on to tonights game, I am getting good vibes about this one. Anyone want to bet who takes a punch at Holik first?? Please, please tell me he’s in the line-up tonight. I can’t decide between Kovy or X.

Rstroz Glad to hear your Dad has improved, I’ll continue to keep your family in my prayers.

By Alan

October 16, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this

Please, please tell me he’s in the line-up tonight.

Well… he’s played in all three of their games so far this year… and only taken 4 SOG (amazingly, he also has zero PIM). Knobler says they’re not making any lineup changes. So I would assume he’s in tonight.

By Sara

October 16, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this

Sorry Ranallo I figured it was a moot point since we didn’t get him. And actually the waiver wire order is still based on last season’s rankings. They don’t switch to this season’s until Nov 1 I believe.

By Scotty

October 16, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this

100th

By Alan

October 16, 2008 3:19 PM | Link to this

More on Denis Savard from the Chicago Daily Herald. This man opines that Savard didn’t even deserve the job.

By Brendan

October 16, 2008 3:26 PM | Link to this

Alan, that’s because I haven’t written it yet. Hmmn, it should be fun writing it though. What a subject/character like Bruce Levenson as the interviewee, it’s just such a “target-rich” environment.

Aww, what the heck. I think I’ll write it now:

The Onion: “Welcome, Bruce. Thanks for taking a few moments with us to discuss the Atlanta Thrashers Hockey Club. You’ve got to be ‘stoked’ over last year’s 28th place finish. It allowed you to draft 3rd!”

Bruce: “Oh definitely. We laid out a plan for Don Waddell, he’s our GM, to get the franchise to the next level. And, without question, owning the 3rd overall pick in the draft is an excellent way to do that.”

The Onion: “So, let’s talk about ‘Free Agency.’ What happened last July?”

Bruce Levenson: “As you know, if you read the AJC and Craig Custance, I told the world that the Atlanta Thrashers know how to sign free agents.”

The Onion: “Yes, I believe your exact quote was, “I think we know how to sign Free Agents.”

Bruce Levenson: “Yeah, whatever. Well, the proof is in the puddin’, and the puddin’s that now Marty Reasoner, Jason Williams, and ‘big-time’ defenseman, Ron Hainsey, are all here now. In FULL FORCE, Baby!!”

The Onion: “So, do you want to talk about Brian Campbell?”

Bruce Levenson: “No.”

The Onion: “Fair enough. Shall we talk about the Thrashers totally revamped Scouting Staff, and the dismissal of Dan Marr?”

Bruce Levenson: “Uhh, that information is FALSE. Dan Marr is still a scout. And we had an excellent draft. Thank you very much.”

The Onion: “Okay, moving right along. Staff! Staff!! My research staff is getting the BIG PINK SLIP for Christmas!”

Bruce Levenson: “Easy there, Mr. Onion reporter. Don’t be so hard on them. Everyone makes mistakes. Why, oh why, does everyone want people in this country to be FIRED? Especially over such minor things. Don’t you realize why pencils have erasers?”

The Onion: (Shrugs) “To keep the ERASER manufacturing business alive and well? Bruce, I feel we’re getting off-track. You mentioned “mistakes.” Let’s talk about the Waddell mistakes.”

Bruce Levenson: “Don Waddell mistakes, ifff he’s made any, occurred under PREVIOUS OWNERSHIP. His track record under OUR leadership is two winning seasons. Thank you very much.”

The Onion: “Staff!! Staff!!”

Staff: “Uhh, that’s true. Two winning seasons. Two outta three (2/3). Correct. Annnnnd, a division title.”

Bruce Levenson: “I might add, that had Kari Lehtonen’s groin not been injured, and Pasi Nurminen’s knee not been torn up practicing with his Finnish National team in 2005, we’d have run away with our division that year, and probably been in the Conference Finals.”

The Onion: “Alllrighteee then.”

Bruce Levenson: “You seem to doubt that.”

The Onion: “Well, considering that there was no season in 2005, any team could make ANY claim about projected success.”

Bruce Levenson: “Obviously, I meant the 2005-06 season. A year, I might add, that we began the season at a maxed out cap! We’re committed to doing whatever it takes to bring the Stanley Cup to Atlanta!”

The Onion: “So, are you amenable to discussing the Thrashers budget?”

Bruce Levenson: “No. That’s none of your business. Are you a shareholder?”

The Onion: “No.”

Bruce Levenson: “Then no, I don’t care to discuss the budget. Not with you.”

The Onion: “How do you go about deciding upon a budget? To be clear, I’m not asking about the dollar value, I’m just touching on the process.”

Bruce Levenson: “Well, Don, the staff, and the entire ownership group get together, in the Summer, to decide what our best options are. And then proceed accordingly.”

The Onion: “Fair enough. Do you think the budget, and future budgets, had any effect on the Marian Hossa contract negotiations?”

Bruce Levenson: “No, I don’t think it impacted Marian’s decision even slightly. There was a whole lot more to those negotiations than you’ll ever know at the Onion. In the end, Marian opted not to re-sign with us. Case closed. Next issue.”

The Onion: “Certainly. Uhh, I recently saw that teams ‘may’ receive as much as $13 million in revenue-sharing. Would you care to elaborate on how much the Atlanta franchise receives?”

Bruce Levenson: “Such matters are kept strictly confidential. By league policy.”

The Onion: “Well, an NSA representative revealed the figure to be $7.2 million. Is that about right?”

Bruce Levenson: “Look you little twit, you could hold my hand over a burning flame, and I’ll NEVER admit to our revenue-sharing figures. Got it?!”

The Onion: “Easy there. Okay. Everyone settle down. I didn’t mean to strike a nerve. Well, certainly you can discuss the length of the contracts of your Head Coach, John Anderson, and the GM, what’d you say his name was?”

Bruce Levenson: “We prefer to keep such matters ‘internal.’ I know how long it is. The other owners know how long it is. The Head Coach and GM know how long it is. Who ELSE needs to know?”

The Onion: “Bob Dole?”

Bruce Levenson: “No, that’s one thing Bob Dole doesn’t know. And neither do the American people.”

The Onion: “Ya know. When you put it that way. I guess NO ONE needs to know. Cheerfully withdrawn. One more question?”

Bruce Levenson: “Better not be about the budget, contract values or length, or my personal tax return.”

The Onion: “No, we’ve covered all that. I’d like to discuss Ilya Kovalchuk’s future with the team.”

Bruce Levenson: “Okay, NOWWWW we’re talking. Ilya Kovalchuk is the face of our franchise. The day Don drafted him was one of the GREATEST DAYS in the history of our young franchise. And his future with our team is not in doubt. I’ll have you know he’s under contract for the next two seasons! Guaranteed, baby!”

The Onion: “Huh?”

Bruce Levenson: “Did I stutter? He’s been “locked up.” Kovalchuk is “under contract.”

The Onion: “And what about after that? In 2010?”

Bruce Levenson: “In two years, Space Aliens could invade the planet and blow us all the smithereeens. Why talk about negotiations that we can’t even hold for about another year?”

The Onion: “Silly us. My staff just informed me … that’s absolutely correct. You can’t negotiate a new deal with Kovalchuk until next July.”

Bruce Levenson: “Can I give you a tip?”

The Onion: “Sure.”

Bruce Levenson: “Stop worrying so much. Just enjoy the games. We have all you can eat specials now?”

The Onion: “Definitely, a sign of the franchise’s progress after eight seasons.”

Bruce Levenson: “Now yer gettin’ it!”

The Onion: “Thanks for your time, Bruce.”

Note: Don’t take this post seriously. Just try to smile and go about your day.

By ranallo10 (in AT)

October 16, 2008 4:05 PM | Link to this

Brendan — For the most part i merely smirked while reading that (yes, I read it all), but you got a nice laugh with these two lines:

“Did I stutter? He’s been “locked up.” Kovalchuk is “under contract.”

and

“In two years, Space Aliens could invade the planet and blow us all the smithereeens. Why talk about negotiations that we can’t even hold for about another year?”

Good times.

Sara — That’s interesting about the waiver wire, I wasn’t aware about that quirk. I guess that means Tampa Bay passed on claiming him…not a wise move in my opinion.

By Don *(Not That One)*

October 16, 2008 4:09 PM | Link to this

They are counting ticket sales (and give aways) not attendance.

I have a friend that runs a church group, the Thrashers have given them 50 tickets for every weekday game this month, that’s part of the 11,000. I know there are plenty more groups like this as well.

Attendance will stay below 8,000 for weeknights and probably around 9,000 for weekends, they will claim higher numbers, but that is just their count of season ticket holders, single games sales and comps they give away.

I guess they hired Enron accountants to count the ticket sales and attendance this season. It’s all a joke.

By Alan

October 16, 2008 4:12 PM | Link to this

I remember someone (Sara, I think) mention the Peca incident a few blogs back. Here’s an update on that situation, and a ruling could come down tonight or tomorrow on the length of his suspension, or if it’s tossed out all together

By Brendan

October 16, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this

Don (Not That One), are there any ENRON accountant left? If so, who’d hire them? On second thought, I withdraw the question.

By Nikita

October 16, 2008 4:29 PM | Link to this

I have a friend that runs a church group, the Thrashers have given them 50 tickets for every weekday game this month, that’s part of the 11,000.

Hmm, really? I’ll have to go back to church, then. Right after I convert to judaism, have some kids, and move to Dothan, AL.

By glovesave29

October 16, 2008 4:31 PM | Link to this

OK, I know we think this blog gets a little nuts sometimes, but has anyone seen what’s going on over at the “Chop Chick” blog? Check out the ramblings from this guy santa 3247.

By Alan

October 16, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this

glovesave - We had someone post something similar on Knobler’s blog a couple months back.

By ranallo10 (in AT)

October 16, 2008 5:12 PM | Link to this

glovesave — That stuff is hilarious, but as Alan said I think we’ve encountered him here before.

I don’t know why Chop Chick doesn’t simply ban his IP, she should be getting it with every post he makes.

By Sage of Bluesland

October 16, 2008 6:35 PM | Link to this

Pay attention, folks—it is “Sage of BlueSland”…I hate having to point out the lack of attention-to-detail of others…

Then again, I’m used to it. I called Waddell a bum for his drafting back in 2002 and where once there was a lone voice or two in the forest, now there is a virtual chorus.

Put that in your ‘analysis’ pipe and smoke it, for those that suggest I “bring something”. Where were you then? What have you offered, besides pitiful excuses for the underperformance?

Sheep are so predictable—and make me laugh…Too bad your hearing (and reading ability) isn’t really up to par…

(Oh, and for the person who brought his daughter to the game and the sun shone differently, etc. ad nauseam, I wish you all the success in the world on such emotional planes…However, I prefer to remove all such emotion from the business and decision-making analysis. Just my preference…)

By ranallo10 (in AT)

October 16, 2008 7:04 PM | Link to this

6 years of saying the same thing ad nauseam must get old, eh? It must especially annoy you since nothing changes.

I’m pretty sure by “bring something” he meant substance, not complaints. It’s easy to say “I don’t like __”, but not so easy when you come up with your own idea on how something you dislike could be rectified.

Go ahead, give us all an ORIGINAL idea. Live up to your namesake and wow us with your all-knowing greatness. Try to have a debate without bringing up farm animals.

I don’t think you’re capable of such a discussion.

By Alan

October 16, 2008 8:52 PM | Link to this

Must be nice to not have any emotion whatsoever at a hockey game. Then again, the way you talk “Sage,” you probably haven’t been to one since 2002.

By stendec's doctor

October 16, 2008 8:56 PM | Link to this

It’s time for your meds.

By Sage's Shrink

October 16, 2008 9:01 PM | Link to this

Tell me about your love for sheep.

By ranallo10 (in AT)

October 16, 2008 9:05 PM | Link to this

Must be nice to not have any emotion whatsoever at a hockey game.

Why? I wouldn’t want to be at a game and completely emotionless, even if that meant the emotion of anger. As a hockey fan I’d rather be angry about the team then be completely indifferent.

Wait, indifference is an emotion too.

How is it possible to be without emotion?

By Alan

October 16, 2008 9:09 PM | Link to this

ranallo - You might want to get your sarcasm detector fixed or replaced.

By ranallo10 (in AT)

October 16, 2008 9:14 PM | Link to this

If it’s anything like ESPN360 it works while it’s free, but when you pay for it the darn thing breaks.

(p.s., the “without emotion” part was also sarcasm…the fact that he’s posting on these boards shows he has emotion for the team, so he’s just blowing hot air with his bombast above)

By Alan

October 16, 2008 9:17 PM | Link to this

I guess I need to check my batteries!

By Brendan

October 16, 2008 9:20 PM | Link to this

Channel 780 didn’t carry the Devils feed on Comcast. I have had to suffer through the Fox Sports South telecast.

Kari Lehtonen made a stellar save on a 2-on-1, with Enstrom coming back late. Hainsey hit a crossbar in the 3rd period. Still 1-0, Devils. Classic New Jersey wear down. The Devils don’t win every game this way, but when they need to protect a lead, there are few teams in the league at doing that.

Go Thrashers!!

By Brendan

October 16, 2008 9:29 PM | Link to this

Make that, there are few better teams in the league at protecting a 1-0 lead. Brodeur gets ever closer to the record, with 97th career shutout.

Hey, gotta give it to him. Brodeur is the reason the Devils won. C’mon now, folks. Plese don’t come here to roast the team after a loss. The T-birds are just one game under .500, “NHL style.” They’re not playing horribly. They ran into a classic performance by a future Hall of Famer in Brodeur, who is going to break Roy’s record for most wins. And Sawchuck’s record for shutouts.

By Tony C.

October 16, 2008 9:39 PM | Link to this

I actually thought this was the best game they’ve played yet-aside from the glaringly obvious breakdowns-they had jump throughout the game, and well, they just happened to run up against The Last Stand Up Goalie…I love Marty the one-man party, but i wish he’d chip away @ Sawchuk’s record against someone else!

Thought that Little really looks like he belongs on #17’s line-I think #17 is starting to trust the kid (notice the nifty drop-pass give&go they worked @ 11:00 or so in the 3rd).

Again, while we would all like to be leading the league in everything, I see constant progress so far. 2 games ago, they started to quit, then snapped out of it too late. This game we got honest effort for all 60 minutes, a couple of bad breaks-and again a gawdawful power-play.

I bet the last bit is going to be high on Coach’s “to-do” list.

I am not happy about the result, but I think if you take an objective look at the club’s status at the beginning of the summer, things aren’t going too badly.

Now if they look like this in December, then I’ll be upset/concerned.

By Brendan

October 16, 2008 9:42 PM | Link to this

The Wild just scored to go up, 5-2, on Florida. The Islanders lead TB, 2-1. And the Penguins still lead, although just by one now, 3-2, over Washington. Uh-oh! The Caps just scored. It’s 3-3, now. Nylander, from Semin. I was going to say, perhaps the Thrashers won’t lose any ground if these results hold.

D’oh.

By Brendan

October 16, 2008 9:49 PM | Link to this

And now, Prospal has just scored for the Bolts. It’s 2-2, in Tampa. And the Lightning are on a PP.

C’mon karma. Work your magic! Wouldn’t it be great is the Isles scored at 19:59 of the 3rd period? A classic gut punch.

Hey, hey!!! Goal for the Islanders!!! Karma, indeed! Trent Hunter, from Tambellini. Isles 3, Bolts 2.

By Nikita

October 16, 2008 9:50 PM | Link to this

Well, we lost, but I think overall it was really well played. Brodeur was spectacular.

Nice hitting from my main midget man (#11), good shots from White and Thorburn and Christensen and Koz and Hainsey and Little. The D looked pretty good overall. I was a tad disappointed in #17 and Schneider — neither seems to have really hit their stride yet. the 2nd period was a little slow. But Enstrom is looking a lot better — hopefully he’s settling in.

Stuff that I like, but doesn’t matter… 1. Nice enforcing by Boulton, and his shot wasn’t terrible, either. 2. The interviews and whatnot seemed much better than last year, when the shambling zombies of the team seemed to struggle to complete sentences. 3. Love the Holik single-sentence interview. Nice shout out to the fans!

Stuff I think we should work on: 1. The PP isn’t working. 2. I’m still not seeing as much physicality out of the new people (except Hainsey) as I’d like. 3. We need to work rebounds more effectively.

By ranallo10 (in AT)

October 16, 2008 9:58 PM | Link to this

Nikita — For those of us who couldn’t watch that interview, what did Holik say?

By Brendan

October 16, 2008 10:19 PM | Link to this

D’oh!! Pittsburgh blew a 3-1 lead and lost, 4-3, to the Capitals. The Islanders beat the Lightning. But the Bolts pushed it to overtime, on a goal by Malone. Trent Hunter added the OT winner for Charles Wang’s Islanders. The Isles led this game, 2-0, so … I suppose the Lightning did well to earn a point in this game. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think the Bolts are 0-2-2 for the season. That’s .250, for all those offseason moves. ‘Course, at .375, Atlanta isn’t throwing stones at anyone.

Minnesota won, 6-2, over Florida.

By Russian

October 16, 2008 10:41 PM | Link to this

Today was Empty Seats everythere. I was asking for Free Tickets, but Thank you I will not going to see Buffalo and Atlanta. Saturday game will be a game to one net (Thrasher net). WE can not score. We can not score on 5 PP. We can not keep Second period Presure. Kovy got only one shot. There is the CENTER???? Big and Powerful CENTER???? White is nothing, he needs to sit or move back to 3-d line.

By Alan

October 16, 2008 10:57 PM | Link to this

2. I’m still not seeing as much physicality out of the new people (except Hainsey) as I’d like.

I don’t know. Charmin Ultra™ had a couple of monstrous hits this evening. Overall I agree. But we’re early in the year, still.

Again, while we would all like to be leading the league in everything, I see constant progress so far.

My sentiments exactly. Though, I think the Thrashers did look a little weak in the second period, but it was in the closing minutes of the period. I’d say we got a good 55min of play out of the guys, at least, which is a far cry better than the 20 from last season or the 40-45 from the last two games.

Baby steps, guys, baby steps.