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By Sara

June 19, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this

By Alan

June 19, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this

Doughty is the most NHL-ready defenseman available in the draft and if the Thrashers need anything, it’s more NHL-caliber players.

Ouch! Great observation, but ouch nonetheless.

By ranallo10

June 19, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this

Since some of us here seem to love this topic, I’ve said this plenty of times but will reiterate for the slow (Rawhide):

I will not be surprised to see Waddell make a trade Saturday to acquire a pick in the second round, he seems to usually make moves in order to get who they have on their board and he’s usually not shy about it. If that trade will be a good trade, that’s clearly debatable.

Atlanta players on my personal trade watch (the ones that would garner a return of draft picks or players, but would actually interest other teams) are:

Exelby, Perrin, a goalie (I hope not), White, Zhitnik (I doubt he’ll be moved), and Sterling (I hope not).

By Rawhide

June 19, 2008 10:52 AM | Link to this

Alan - That line popped out at me too. Interesting choice of words, but I agree…spot-on observation.

ranallo - I would hate to see Perrin traded…he was one of the few bright spots last season, IMHO. Lots-O-hustle & great on the PK.

But, it all depends on the return, as always. White, on the other hand…whatever we could get. Sterling, I agree with you in the “hope not” department. But he may be one of those with the trade-bait target on his back. Same with XLB…if for no other reason then the D is so bad that, outside of Enstrom and Havelid, any one of our d-men is expendable.

By Buzilla in CT

June 19, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this

Bogo or Donut with our top pick. I would like to get Staal with our 2nd pick. I would also like Wad to trade Zhitprick/White/Larsen/Klee for draft picks (not going to happen)

Dispite what Wad says…Zhitty Zhitty Bang Bang is not part of our future. I would trade him for a used urinal cake, Damian Rhodes game used jock, or a pillow made from Patrick Stephan’s short and curlies.

And we would still be fleecing the other GM.

By Hip Czech

June 19, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this

Columbus seems intent on acquiring Marleau, probably swinging a three way with Ottawa (Ottawa winding up with the #6 pick?).

Good for them if they can do it. They also have two first round picks with Nash, Zherdev, and Marleau that would be a decent trio, and they already HAVE a defensive system and a goalie.

If we don’t come out of this draft weekend with a NHL-caliber center something’s wrong. We should be able to land a center via trade and hopefully still have the #3 pick to grab a defenseman.

Exelby, one of our forever almost ready to play in the NHL forwards, and the #29 pick for a center.

By Smoothie

June 19, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this

Buzz — that is just flat out gross, the definition of filth! Pretty much the same as Zhitty’s play last year.

Can’t see us drafting Donut unless the Kings “steal” Bogo. I think even Teflon Don realizes that Bogo’s style, size and demeanor fit our needs to a Thrasher “T”.

By Buzilla in CT

June 19, 2008 11:39 AM | Link to this

I agree with Smoothie. I want an “angry” defense and this kid is what we need. If Boris develops, you pair him with Bogo, you are gonna have some scared forwards coming across the blueline

By GaVaHokie

June 19, 2008 11:41 AM | Link to this

Drafting Bogosian would immediately put Kulda on the fast track as well… nothing in this draft makes more sense than Bogosian to me.

I predict Columbus gives up their #6 pick to Florida for Jokinen… can’t imagine Martin would let Jokinen go to a team he actually wants to play for. “You want out of Florida? Have fun in Columbus.”

By Alan

June 19, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this

One word: Yikes.

By Buzilla in CT

June 19, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this

I agree with Smoothie. I want an “angry” defense and this kid is what we need. If Boris develops, you pair him with Bogo, you are gonna have some scared forwards coming across the blueline

By GaVaHokie

June 19, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this

If we get Bogo… I’d like to trade the 29th pick for Gionta or Cheechoo.

Eklund says that teams are inquiring about Joe Thornton… I…might… actually… yes, I would. I’d give up the #3 pick for Joe Thornton. Still under contract for 3 years at $7 million. Certainly that would get Kovalchuk signed long-term.

By Sharon

June 19, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this

I’m hoping for #3 Bogosian and #29 Staal. I’d be fine with packaging the #29 pick in a trade for a d-man.

There are several players I’d like to see lanced from the team, most notably, Zhitnik, Exelby, and Klee.

With Waddell in charge, I actually feel more stressed about the draft than excited. Maybe it’s pre-embarrassment for the nutty deals we could be involved in (haha).

By Midfield

June 19, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this

There are cyberspace rumors that Pens are going to trade Malkin to LA in order to keep Hossa. I think it would be a mistake. Not my problem anyway.

By GaVaHokie

June 19, 2008 12:07 PM | Link to this

There are cyberspace rumors that Pens are going to trade Malkin to LA in order to keep Hossa. I think it would be a mistake. Not my problem anyway.

Yeah, but the chemistry is undeniable with Crosby and Malkin… even with Dupuis on that line.

Could you imagine Pittsburgh getting ANOTHER Top 5 pick by trading Malkin to LA?… sheesh.

By GaVaHokie

June 19, 2008 12:15 PM | Link to this

Oops… I meant the chemistry between Crosby and Hossa is undeniable.

By Alan

June 19, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this

Yeah, but the chemistry is undeniable with Crosby and Malkin… even with Dupuis on that line.

I’m pretty sure Malkin was moved to the second line and Hossa played with Crosby and Dupuis.

And honestly, I could imagine Pittsburgh landing another top 5 pick. They’ve got a load of talent in the minors, and assets they have no room (roster or salary) for. If there’s a buyer, they’ll take the pick and run.

By Midfield

June 19, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this

I believe, they’re getting Cammareli. I also believe that they would not get anywhere close to the Cup finals without Malkin.

By ranallo10

June 19, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this

Midfield — If those rumors came to fruition that would mean many teams would have a reason to clamor for Dustin Brown and/or Michael Cammalleri. As a “consolation” prize, I’d assume either could be had for that #29 pick, and I’d be all for it.

Hokie — I’d imagine it’d take more than a #3 pick to take arguably the best center in the NHL, especially since he’s got a cheap contract (for his talent level) with multiple years remaining.

I also agree with you about Bogosian making the most sense for this franchise. Kulda and him could spend training camp paired, and if they’re not ready they can either be sent back to Juniors together, or to the AHL together. I’d keep them paired defensively until they become joined at the hip.

I’m curious if Waddell has interviewed Kulda about Bogosian.

By Buzilla in CT

June 19, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this

Isn’t Bogosian Italian for ‘Meat Sauce’?

By Midfield

June 19, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this

Actually, Malkin’s contract is up in a year, and hence the trade, I believe. He’ll be expensive to keep.

By NASCAR Dave

June 19, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this

Now I gotta cut and paste my comments from the other blogs here, but like GAVA sez, I’m pretty good at that!

# 3 - BOGOSIAN or FILATOV… Depends on what LA does, if LA takes BOGO, we should take FILATOV, NOT DOUGHY…

I would also like Wad to trade Zhitprick/White/Larsen/Klee for draft picks (not going to happen)… Dispite what Wad says…Zhitty Zhitty Bang Bang is not part of our future. I would trade him for a used urinal cake, Damian Rhodes game used jock, or a pillow made from Patrick Stephan’s short and curlies. And we would still be fleecing the other GM.

I agree 100% with this statement…

I think even Teflon Don realizes that Bogo’s style, size and demeanor fit our needs to a Thrasher “T”.

Yes, SMOOTHIE, and he is AMERICAN… You how Donnie FRAUDell loves him some American boys!!!

There are cyberspace rumors that Pens are going to trade Malkin to LA in order to keep Hossa. I think it would be a mistake. Not my problem anyway.

MALKIN could be our elusive #1 Center if Silly Donnie would actually work out a trade… If LA does the trade, PITT will have the #2 Pick… I think we would all agree they would grab FILATOV…

Isn’t it funny how all of these teams have “plans” already??? What do we have??? NOTHING. And WHY is THAT???

How do you go into a Draft without a Coach, Not knowing what type of system you will utilize, Not knowing the types of players you need??? Is it just me or does it seem like they are TRYING their HARDEST to do EVERYTHING WRONG and ALIENATE as many of their fans as possible???

Because they’re doin a damn good job at it…

NUFF SAID.

By GaVaHokie

June 19, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this

I’m pretty sure Malkin was moved to the second line and Hossa played with Crosby and Dupuis.

I meant Hossa, not Malkin

By GaVaHokie

June 19, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this

I’m curious if Waddell has interviewed Kulda about Bogosian.

I’m sure he’s very aware of Bogosian as it is… it’s probably how he found Kulda.

By GaVaHokie

June 19, 2008 12:53 PM | Link to this

Isn’t Bogosian Italian for ‘Meat Sauce’?

He’s from Messena… which might actually be italian for meat sauce, too. :)

Messena is about an hour from my wife’s hometown, so he feels like a “hometown” boy to me.

By Hip Czech

June 19, 2008 12:53 PM | Link to this

The draft (at least the first round tomorrow) is going to be on Versus, right?

Wow, if I were Pittsburgh I think I’d rather have Malkin than Hossa…

By Hip Czech

June 19, 2008 1:03 PM | Link to this

GaVaHokie…that’s Massena…Bogosian’s dad played football at Syracuse. Pretty cool!

Check this out:

We have a new workout star, Zach Bogosian of the Peterborough Petes, who is ranked second in North America by the CSB. It’s hard to say who was more impressive, Colin Wilson or Bogosian, but suffice to say both were outstanding.

Bogosian did 19 on the bench and 60 sit-ups, which was the most seen by TSN (though we did not see everyone). Most impressive was his work on the bike. There are a series of trainers here and they constantly shout “encouragement” at the riders as they ramp up the VO2 Max test. Most players just put their heads down and pedal, but not Bogosian. He was very vocal, giving it back to the trainers as though they didn’t have enough resistance on the bike to hold him back. He dropped jaws all around the room with that performance. When Bogosian did his vertical jump, one scout shouted out an expletive in pure marvel. He really got up there.

Drew Doughty (3rd) had a decent workout, but it was perhaps unlucky to be in the same group as Bogosian as they fight to be the first defencemen taken on draft day. On the plus side, Doughty looked a lot leaner than his listed weight of 219 pounds, and it’s doubtful he weighs that much now. Don Maloney was seen (he’s everywhere) breaking off a conversation in order to watch Doughty on the bike.

By Sara

June 19, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this

Dave why are you so insistent on Filatov over Doughty?? I know you’ve argued to take the best player available (which I think is debatable if you have specific positional holes to fill but…) however every ranking I’ve seen so far has Doughty ahead of Filatov. Maybe it’s just because of the lack of an agreement with Russia? Either way, I’m just really curious about why you would not want a promising blueliner (which we definitely need) for a winger who would certainly be a great player but isn’t something we are in dire need of at the moment?

Alan and I thought it sucked to be a Rangers fan before. :o. I’m trying to remember what started all that mess?? I know MSG sued the NHL because they felt the NHL was taking too much control of something - maybe something about the website? Too bad Bettman won’t seize the Thrashers franchise for the sheer embarassment factor.

By Hip Czech

June 19, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this

The whole article is here:

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=239235

Scott Mellanby is even mentioned.

By polskidawg

June 19, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this

And now for something completely different…

LA keeps their pick, and chooses Bogo, who DW really wants, so:

• Thrash trades #3, #29, Valabik, and Sterling to Nashville for Weber, #9, #15 and 2nd round pick. Nashville picks Filatov to replace Kariya. • Thrash trades #9 and 3rd round pick to Chicago for Barker and 4th round pick. Chicago picks Beach/Hodgson • #15 is used for Jared Staal

The result: DW signs Weber immediately for 4 years @ 2.5mil to 3.5mil, then extends Barker for 4 years @ 1.5mil to 2.5mil.

The defense gets younger, better, bigger, and more skilled, both in offense and defense.

Staal plays one more year in Junior/AHL, and then is Kovy’s opposite wingman in 2009/2010.

Just a thought.

By Smoothie

June 19, 2008 1:24 PM | Link to this

Cool, then we’ll have “Meat Sauce” to replace “Chicken Parm”…too bad we can’t get Bogo and Donut on the same blueline. Then again, Zhitty would prolly try to eat him.

By Alan

June 19, 2008 1:24 PM | Link to this

*Sara - This whole thing did indeed start because of the Rangers website. MSG sued the NHL because MSG felt the NHL violated antitrust laws by “monopolizing control of team promotions.” Yeah, it’s directly related to the Rangers web site.

A judge ruled back in November that the NHL was well within its rights to take control of the website.

In the court filing, a letter from Bettman was also included, informing MSG that the NHL has begun disciplinary proceedings against them for the lawsuit.

As for taking ownership of the Thrashers … eh, I’m not sure I would wish Bettman management of any team on anyone.

On the other hand, it looks like Balsillie might get his US market team in Hamilton, after all.

By Hip Czech

June 19, 2008 1:29 PM | Link to this

Polskidawg…slow down, you move way too fast for our GM.

Seeing Suter just signed for 4 years @14 million the numbers for Weber seem reasonable.

What about Tikhonov (sp?) instead of Staal?

By R. Stroz

June 19, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this

I just had a light bulb go on in my head.

DW’s “we are one or two players short of being a Stanley Cup contender” is DW speak for rebuilding.

DW can’t use the word rebuilding because he has already used it up so he switched to one or two players away.

I wonder if DW reads many George Orwell books.

By NASCAR Dave

June 19, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this

NHL threatens to boot Rangers owner from league

ALAN! Can we get them to BOOT OUR OWNERS??? For being STUPID as HELL???

Dave why are you so insistent on Filatov over Doughty?? I know you’ve argued to take the best player available (which I think is debatable if you have specific positional holes to fill but…) however every ranking I’ve seen so far has Doughty ahead of Filatov.

SARA - Here is the NASCAR Dave breakdown… I want BOGO, If he is not there at 3, I take FILATOV… This will add some much needed offense that we lost with HOSSA/DUPUIS departure…

BUT, I agree we still need DEFENSE… So, with Pick 29 You take the Best D-Man available…

Now, if Donnie FRAUDell was as samrt as NASCAR Dave, he would attempt to trade up into the The Top 7 and grab both FILATOV AND BOGOSIAN…

Like I stated previously, this will require a trade of Roster Players, Pick 29, possibly more later round picks.

I am fine with any of the following players being traded:

ZHITHEAD, WHITE, KLEE, SLATER, LARSON, EXELBY, LETEMIN, STERLING, STUART, DOELL…

The only other scenario acceptable to me is the one HOKIE brought up about trading down with Columbus to grab FILATOV at 5 and grab the 2 BEST D-Men with the 2 picks we would have at the end of Round 1.

DOUGHTY is a bit too small for my liking… I think we need to stick with NASCAR Dave’s Key To Success #7: NO NEW PLAYERS 6’0” OR SMALLER!!! - ESPECIALLY on DEFENSE!!!

Hope this helps…

By ranallo10

June 19, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this

Hip Czech — You’re stealing my thunder!! I posted the exact thing the day of the combine…

Anyways, that combine report is what sold me on Bogosian. I had already been leaning towards him but needed that extra push. A person intent on working out, with the talent he currently has, is hard to come by.

A physical specimen and a talented hockey player to boot. That’s a good mix.

The workout report also made me happier with Colin Wilson as a prospect, to the point that I’d very much ponder getting back into the top 10 to acquire him. Though, I think Wilson will be much like Kessel in the NHL, I still would prefer him to White, Perrin, or Christensen as the number 1 or number 2 center.

Such a move (for Wilson) is not likely to happen, so now I’m hoping he only goes to teams I don’t mind watching (so NOT Toronto, any NY team, or any PA team).

NASCAR Dave — As Rawhide stated previously, the first three picks of the draft are held by teams who do not have coaches at this point. It’s clearly not a unique situation we are in.

Sara — Dave has stated before he thinks Doughty (6’0 219) is “Enstrom size” and thinks he’s too small for this defense. His second choice for a defensive pick is Myers (6’7), because he has a feeling about Pietrangelo.

Did I accurately summarize your opinion, NASCAR Dave?

By Hip Czech

June 19, 2008 1:43 PM | Link to this

Ranallo…did not mean to steal the thunder. Back during the combine I actually had to do real work so I was not on the blog space nor checking the hockey pages. Sorry to repeat that.

Now I get to slack off, have a few beverages and hang out here for a little while.

After the DW moves the next few days I may have to have a lot of a few more beverages and then have to get back to work.

By NASCAR Dave

June 19, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this

Did I accurately summarize your opinion, NASCAR Dave?

For the most part, yes. Thanks. It’s too much damn work to copy and paste this crap.

The workout report also made me happier with Colin Wilson as a prospect, to the point that I’d very much ponder getting back into the top 10 to acquire him. Though, I think Wilson will be much like Kessel in the NHL, I still would prefer him to White, Perrin, or Christensen as the number 1 or number 2 center.

RANALO Don’t forget NASCAR Dave’s prediction on WILSON… I am confused why you would say that though, don’t we already have plenty of 3rd and 4th Line Centers???

By Buzilla in CT

June 19, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this

Please don’t refer to yourself in the third person, that drives Zilla crazy…

I love all the wacked out ideas everyone is coming up with that brings Thorton or Malkin to ATL. I bet you it is going to be pretty boring. No trades. Straight picks. We will get Donut (and he will suck) and the last Staal brother.

By Alan

June 19, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this

Stroz - I wonder if DW reads many George Orwell books.

This goes directly against what was determined earlier this week: Waddell can’t read.

Though maybe he has Orwell’s books on tape…

Dave - Can we get them to BOOT OUR OWNERS??? For being STUPID as HELL???

Unfortunately, stupidity in the ownership isn’t a problem the NHL can take disciplinary action against an ownership for.

don’t we already have plenty of 3rd and 4th Line Centers

One of which we signed with great fanfare during free agency 2007 to a four year contract and was put on the top line.

By ranallo10

June 19, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this

NASCAR Dave — You’re assuming Wilson is going to be a 3rd or 4th line center? Yes, I do remember what you said regarding the “American player Waddell wanted all along“…how could I forget, you say it every second blog!! But your point about Waddell’s move means little to me, as I personally see Wilson as a fine prospect to draft. So if that’s what it boiled down to (him trading down for Wilson) I would be upset over not drafting Bogosian or Doughty, but I’d still be content with the player he acquired.

Zilla — I’m of the same thought process, we’ll see straight picks this first round. That doesn’t mean it’s how I prefer the draft, but that’s likely what will transpire.

Knowing how Atlanta’s luck runs,

I don’t think any NHL top line player will come to Atlanta via trade. No Malkin, no Thornton, no Marleau, no Cheechoo, etc…I don’t think those trades will happen.

But speculate away, that’s the fun part of this time of year.

By Hip Czech

June 19, 2008 2:25 PM | Link to this

Way off subject…but I’m bored.

Out of all the active players in the NHL who are either currently Thrashers or are ex-Thrashers, what is the best team we could field? Only one rule, it is either Hossa or Heatley, not both.

My picks are:

Centers Savard Belanger Metropolit Little

Forwards Kovalchuk Hossa Kozlov Brunette DuPuis Perrin Armstrong Thorburn

Defense Havelid Enstrom Coburn Staios Kaberle Brett Clark DeVries

Goalies Lehtonen Hedberg

How far would that team go?

By Hip Czech

June 19, 2008 2:33 PM | Link to this

I guess I broke my own rule though…it can’t be Armstrong and Hossa/Dupuis either. But I was searching for an 8th forward

By Buzilla in CT

June 19, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this

Hip Czech-

What about Bondra and Recchi in there prime?

Or is that part of it. Best Thrasher team at the ages that they were here

By Buzilla in CT

June 19, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this

or Kunitz on Anahiem…

By ranallo10

June 19, 2008 2:37 PM | Link to this

Wow, no Tkachuk? No Nurminen?

Are you thinking of using the quality of the player when they were on the roster, or since they’ve matured? Or is it any player from a Thrashers roster, but their production from the peak of their career?

In other words, are you envisioning Mellanby as being his old self when he was in Atlanta, or his young St. Louis self? Same with Tkachuk.

By Buzilla in CT

June 19, 2008 2:38 PM | Link to this

or Keith DaTruck

By Hip Czech

June 19, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

Rule is as they are now…like we had them for going into next year…they have to be active players now.

I thought about Tkachuk…that should probably be instead of Armstrong

By Buzilla in CT

June 19, 2008 2:47 PM | Link to this

right on Ranallo…

It is more fun to put a super team together with players in there prime

Centers: Savard/Holik/ Forwards: Kovy/Kozlov/Bondra/Hossa/Recchi/Tkachuk/Mellanby Defense: Kaberle/Enstrom/Coburn/…ah…ah…Buzek?

man or D sucks

Goalie: Kari/Pasi

By GaVaHokie

June 19, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this

Doughty LOST 15 pounds in the gym so he would be in NHL shape… 6’0 and 220 lbs is technically fat for your size at 18 years old. So, now he’s 206 pounds which is what the league and himself deemed the appropriate size.

I know you want to take it back Nascar… it’s okay. Or do you enjoy being difficult? :)

By Smoothie

June 19, 2008 2:53 PM | Link to this

Hip Czech — if Metropolit is our third best center of all-time, then no wonder we suck! Don’t get me wrong, I love Glen’s work ethic, but he’s certainly not more valuable than a motivated Bobby Holik. Not to say I want Bobby back as we need to turn to youth, but he was / is a beast in the defensive faceoff circle. Very good to have when all you can do is ice the puck!! Ha!

By Hip Czech

June 19, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this

As far as I can tell Kunitz never played a game for the Thrashers…is that right?

By Buzilla in CT

June 19, 2008 3:00 PM | Link to this

2005-06 ATL 2 0 0 0 -3 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000

2 games!

By Smoothie

June 19, 2008 3:03 PM | Link to this

I think Kunitz actually played 2 or 3 games for Le Thrash.

By GaVaHokie

June 19, 2008 3:03 PM | Link to this

Of course, don’t take my word for it, it’s only science. :)

Here’s a chart of ideal weight and size.

By Hip Czech

June 19, 2008 3:04 PM | Link to this

Smoothie…good point, again, I wasn’t thinking about all time, I was just thinking ‘what if’ and see what kind of team we might have next year…Holik would be a good choice as a #3 center.

Metro had a decent year for Boston…I think he would have a little more offensive upside, but those are pretty lame centers defensively. No doubt.

By Bob

June 19, 2008 3:04 PM | Link to this

Hip Czech, what an indictment of this club you laid out there, it makes my head hurt looking at all the guys Waddell has let go.

I hope it’s Bogo and I wouldn’t mind taking Staal at #29, even if it’s a reach, his pedigree talks for itself. When he gets to the show, he’ll have the motivation of keeping up with his brothers.

By NASCAR Dave

June 19, 2008 3:04 PM | Link to this

Doughty LOST 15 pounds in the gym so he would be in NHL shape… 6’0 and 220 lbs is technically fat for your size at 18 years old. So, now he’s 206 pounds which is what the league and himself deemed the appropriate size.

Good Point GAVA… We don’t need anymore FAT A*******ES here… We already have KLEE and ZHITHEAD, do we really need more LARD???

So, uhh, yeah, PASS on DOUGHBOY!!!

By Hip Czech

June 19, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this

OK, substitute Kunits for Thorburn…so, how far does that team go?

In my mind definitely a playoff team, maybe a first round win?

By Smoothie

June 19, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this

Hey, easy there Dave! Just because Klee looks like Buzz Lightyear doesn’t mean he is a lard-a*. Rather, he is in pretty good shape for an old man past his prime.

It’s not Klee’s fault that he is our 3rd best D-man when he really should be a 3rd pairing guy or 7th D-man off the bench kinda guy at this stage in his long, solid career.

By Brendan

June 19, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this

If Atlanta trades the #3 overall pick … and doesn’t get an RFA NHL Superstar in return, then they messed up. I don’t care if it’s Doughty or Bogosian, but one of them has to be a Thrasher draft pick at 3rd overall.

Those are the only two acceptable scenarios. We need a Tier I blueliner prospect. These two are just “sitting there,” ripe for the plucking. To come away without one of them is a mistake. Period, the end.

By GaVaHokie

June 19, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this

So, uhh, yeah, PASS on DOUGHBOY!!!

That would be my only fear… is that we’d be calling him Doughboy in 2-3 years if he develops a poor work ethic.

Bogosian is a work out warrior… Filatov couldn’t weigh 220lbs if he drank beer with Buzzilla every night.

By GaVaHokie

June 19, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this

Ugh… Hordichuk is back in the Southeast again.

Carolina just gave up a fifth round pick to Nashville for Darcy Hordichuk.

By Alan

June 19, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this

That may only be temporary, Hokie.

However, Hordichuk is due to become an unrestricted free agent on July 1st and if he does not sign with the Hurricanes, Carolina will receive a fifth-round draft pick in 2010.

By GaVaHokie

June 19, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this

Crazy rumors on Hockeybuzz right now… looks like teams are setting up to overspend for the Top 3 picks!

By Buzilla in CT

June 19, 2008 3:32 PM | Link to this

Filatov looks like a chick. I don’t drink with pretty boy commies.

By ranallo10

June 19, 2008 3:39 PM | Link to this

Oh no, Hordichuk getting 5-7 minutes per game with another team?? AHHHHH!!! :-)

If Valabik would have a good tussle or two with him, I’d be content. Thorburn would get his a* whooped, and Boulton would have a tough time handling him. but it’s not like the last few iterations of the Thrashers have been the pugilist types. Anderson lets his boys drop the mitts, so perhaps if he’s hired we could see a little more BALLS on the ice.

By GaVaHokie

June 19, 2008 3:40 PM | Link to this

What could Montreal POSSIBLY be offering that would warrant the #3 pick? Just about everybody on their roster has only a one year deal.

Atleast Ottawa is offering up Spezza who has a 5-year contract.

By Hip Czech

June 19, 2008 3:41 PM | Link to this

Habs also have interest in Thrashers pick…

Would we have any interest? It would have to start with Andrei Kostitsyn. Andrei Kostitsyn and Grabovski for the #3 and something.

By GaVaHokie

June 19, 2008 3:49 PM | Link to this

Let’s match the LA and OTT deal… we’ll give Montreal Lehtonen and the 1st round pick for Carey Price and a first round pick.

That gives us until 2010 before we have to qualify a goalie. :)

By GaVaHokie

June 19, 2008 4:13 PM | Link to this

Okay… Buffalo might be interested in moving up. They have two first round picks.

Would you trade #3 for both Buffalo picks (#13 and #26) and Maxim Afinogenov?

By GaVaHokie

June 19, 2008 4:22 PM | Link to this

St. Louis is apparently shopping Jay McKee… they’d be “interested in Doughty if he was still on the board”.

Well, how about we swap places for the price of Jay McKee?

Draft Luke Schenn or Pietrangelo.

I can come up with these scenarios all day. :)

By ranallo10

June 19, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this

I can come up with these scenarios all day. :)

So you can.

No to McKee, over priced and overrated.

No to Afinogenov, doesn’t allow for a top tier defender to be drafted, thus rendering that top pick useless. Afinogenov’s $3.5M contract expires this season, making him a rental player.

Montreal wouldn’t give up Price. And oddly enough, I don’t want him…I’d avoid any deals involving Montreal for multiple reasons. Kostitsyn has reportedly been offered $1.5M and $4M to return to Russia…so he’s not worth that price tag to stay in Atlanta (which I’m sure coming here would expedite his signing with the Russian teams).

I can shoot down these scenarios ALL DAY. :)

By GaVaHokie

June 19, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this

I can shoot down these scenarios ALL DAY. :)

So you can :)

By ranallo10

June 19, 2008 5:02 PM | Link to this

Stop smiling at me, freak!

By NASCAR Dave

June 19, 2008 5:21 PM | Link to this

I can come up with these scenarios all day. :)

Dude, quit wasting your time on EKLUND’s little hack site!!! That guy is a FOOL!!!

HOSSA to MTL (E5) - Remember that one??? LOL.

NUFF SAID.

By Brendan

June 19, 2008 5:55 PM | Link to this

I’m probably the most guilty party ‘round these parts for discussing “scenarios.” But I cannot see one here. Simply put, we must draft either Doughty or Bogosian, depending on which one is left on the board.

If they’re both still up on the board, my preferance is Doughty. I will not cry over Zach Bogosian, if he winds up here. Either one is just fiiine by meeee.

I like the Staal kid at #29, if the pick isn’t shopped. I kinda, sorta think Waddell will move #29 for an NHL player. I cannot and will not fault him if he does, provided that it’s someone decent, with multiple years left on the contract.

But truthfully, it’s better for the organization to draft its own talent, rather than taking a player who signed a contract meant for a different market.

On my lunch hour, I went out and bought two bottles of Maalox to prepare for the Draft. I have “buyer’s remorse.” I really think I should have gotten three. Well, you live and learn, right?

By Sara

June 19, 2008 6:04 PM | Link to this

Oh Lord, my belly hurts and tears are flowing reading through this thread. **Zhitnik would eat him.” HAHAHAHAHA.

Holy geez those “all-time Thrashers” lists are pathetic. How about a new project - using current and former Thrashers, put together the crappiest team ever in hockey history. That one should be much easier. Bonus points if it’s comprised totally of FA signings. ;)

Dave small-ish isn’t ALWAYS bad. A team full of smurfs = race for a lottery pick. A couple of well-chosen smaller players = ok. If we had Doughty and Enstrom, then draft/sign/beg, borrow, steal other d-men 6’2”+, we’d be ok. Especially if we consider that Doughty and Enstrom are more offensive d-men. Partner them with bigger guys like Valabik as defensive d-men and it can pair out nicely.

By kracker

June 19, 2008 6:05 PM | Link to this

I saw a post on HF where somebody says a French radio station says Anderson to be Thrahsers coach. Yeah, and my brother-in-law’s friend overheard his buddy say…

By Rawhide

June 19, 2008 6:11 PM | Link to this

OK, just checkin’ in to make sure everyone was playin’ nice over here.

Anyone been over to Schultzie’s column lately??? Oh my…it’s gotten nasty!

Alrighty then…carry on!

By Sara

June 19, 2008 6:11 PM | Link to this

Heck, DW ought to take Anderson to the draft anyway. That way Anderson can stock up either the Thrashers or the Wolves.

By kracker

June 19, 2008 6:14 PM | Link to this

As far as size for the Dman goes, Lidstrom isn’t that big of a guy, listed at 6-1, 193 lbs. He’s doing OK last I saw.

By Mike Knobler

June 19, 2008 8:31 PM | Link to this

I hope nobody minds me jumping on Rawhide’s blog to comment, but I was reading the suggestion of a trade involving Perrin and had to jump in and point out how weird that would be, considering Perrin is scheduled to be at Philips for the draft.

By HookyBob

June 19, 2008 9:34 PM | Link to this

I’m thinking DW will do fine with the first pick (how can you go wrong at #3?). He may do well at #29,..don’t know. What I fear is that he’ll trade #29 for a proven 3rd line NHLer,…thinking that pick-up will work on our 1st or 2nd line. Overall, I sort of like DW’s trades (EXCEPT COBURN FOR AZ,…other than that how did you like the play Mrs Lincoln?).

Would really like it if we could somehow trade up enough to get Pietrangelo or Schenn (maybe Tyler Myers or Colten Teuburt depending on the cost) with our 2nd pick. Call me “old school” but I believe you build a team from the goalie forward. As you may have assumed,… I believe Kari is a the first piece. Would also like to see a defensive minded coach (or new defensive assistant). Is dull, but winning hockey better than losing hockey? (ASG please ask NJ, or MN)

Instead of naming the “All-Thrasher” team (which doesn’t get us past the first round of the play-offs),..I ask,…”Who is the best UFA DW has signed?” In my mind it is Perrin (perhaps my memory is too short). So, to trade Perrin, for any return, rubs me the wrong way. This may be more of an indictment of the owners that DW (but again I don’t know.)

As a few others have said June 20th is a critical day in this franchise’s life.

I’m still hoping to be at the Philips Friday evening. Are the gathering at TMs or Gorrins? Stroz,..hope we cross paths. I’ll be looking for the guy with the bullhorn. :)

BTW: Mike,..I (and suspect many others) welcome your comments on this blog. Glad you are reading it and want to be a part of it.

By Alan

June 19, 2008 9:42 PM | Link to this

Anyone been over to Schultzie’s column lately??? Oh my…it’s gotten nasty!

I just peeked in there. I feel bad that I even bothered to post in the column.

I may not agree with everything Schultz says, but the vitriol content of the blog really makes me sad. Hard to fathom where the world in general went wrong, as far as the lack of respect is concerned.

Since the other blog stays in the other blog, I’ll just leave my thoughts at that.

By Rawhide

June 19, 2008 9:53 PM | Link to this

Mike Knobler - I always try to welcome first time commenters…so WELCOME, indeed!!

And you’re right…I could just imagine Perrin shaking hands with a fan and then it’s announced he’s been traded….

Awkward!

By Alan

June 19, 2008 10:17 PM | Link to this

ATTENTION! - John Anderson is the new coach of the Thrashers!

By Bob

June 19, 2008 10:21 PM | Link to this

Anderson is our new coach

I wanted the Wings assistant, let’s pray for the best with Anderson. His all offense all the time doesn’t sound like what we need, but let’s pray it works.

By Rawhide

June 19, 2008 10:23 PM | Link to this

YES!!!! Way to go Alan! You broke the news first so I buy you a hot dog and beverage opening night!

FAN-TASTIC!!!

By Alan

June 19, 2008 10:30 PM | Link to this

Rawhide - I’m holding you to that ;)

By HookyBob

June 19, 2008 10:53 PM | Link to this

Anderson it is,…never mind what took soooooo…long,…time to move forward.

106 days til the puck drops on anothe.r run

By Alan

June 19, 2008 10:56 PM | Link to this

Bob - I’m with you on that. I really wanted a defense-first coach not named McCrimmon, but perhaps Anderson could do something about our lack of scoring. We were last in the league, I believe, in GF last season. I just hope Anderson brings in a more defensively-minded coach to maybe help piece together some semblance of a defense. I think, broken sticks on the ice did a better job of stopping the puck than a certain Zhitty defender.

By thrashyou

June 19, 2008 10:58 PM | Link to this

rawhide do yo have any info on the rumor that atl is close to signing ILYA NIKULIN?

By BG33Brown

June 19, 2008 11:01 PM | Link to this

Bob how can you say that anderson is all offense all the time.

Does he want to score absolutely. What noninsane coach doesn’t. BUT WHAT IS UNDISPUTABLE that forwards who he coached, when they came up-backchecked their a**es off.

By Alan

June 19, 2008 11:07 PM | Link to this

thrashyou - All anyone here knows right now is what was printed in a Russian paper.

Nikulin is apparently in talks with Atlanta, and says he wants to come play “in the best league in the world.” However, he also said he has a contractual obligation with his current team (Ak Bars Kazan), and because of that, is in no hurry.

My thoughts? “Maybe next year.” I’m pretty sure he’s staying in Russia for this season.

By Rawhide

June 19, 2008 11:10 PM | Link to this

thrashyou - I’ll echo what Allan said…that is all I know of the situation.

By thrashyou

June 19, 2008 11:13 PM | Link to this

ALAN I wish he would come over that would give toby or anyone for that matter on heck of a line mate.

By PJ

June 19, 2008 11:21 PM | Link to this

Rawhide I wonder how many people figured that if we didn’t have a coach by Wed. it just wasn’t going to happen until next week. I hope nobody took out a wager on the word of DW, I wouldn’t want to see anyone wind up here. http://jimcrossett.com/

By Rawhide

June 19, 2008 11:24 PM | Link to this

No, PJ…I don’t think anyone would have been so foolish… :o)

By Fred Sanford

June 19, 2008 11:26 PM | Link to this

Elizabeth this is the big one honey, I’m commin to join ya.

By R. Stroz

June 19, 2008 11:29 PM | Link to this

PJ - Thanks, now I have a sight to post my wife’s brother and nephew.

By Rawhide

June 19, 2008 11:42 PM | Link to this

And it gets stranger-er and stranger-er…

Mike Knobler now writes that Waddell denies the story.

sigh

By R. Stroz

June 19, 2008 11:44 PM | Link to this

Is Mike Sullivan the right choice to coach the Thrashers?

I guess its time to put this pole to rest.

By R. Stroz

June 19, 2008 11:49 PM | Link to this

Oh $h!t

Here we go again.

Does DW wants to break the news himself? EGO,EGO,EGO

By R. Stroz

June 19, 2008 11:59 PM | Link to this

Is DW a vampire? He sucks the life out of everything.

By Alan

June 20, 2008 12:00 AM | Link to this

Rawhide - I’m guessing the dog and drink are no more, eh? Drat.

I agree with Stroz honestly. DW seems to want to do this himself. First, the “Hedberg Re-signed” “rumor” that came true. Now, the “Coach Anderson” “rumor.” Will this one come true, too?

By PJ

June 20, 2008 12:25 AM | Link to this

Ahh, maybe he (DW) was planning on creating some hype and making the announcement Friday night to the fans……Oh and while we’re at it can we show you some season ticket plans that are still available…

Your Welcome Stroz I particularly like the typos in that website. It adds to it’s charm.

By Russian

June 20, 2008 8:16 AM | Link to this

The whole situatuion and speculation about hiring the NEW COACH make me thinking that OUR Organization is completely Joke. It is like Comedy Center or Circus. Don Waddell is a Biggest and Greates Clown on this Show. I hope Anderson will be our Coach and I hope Don will be fired or Transfer to other position like Hockey Camp in Duluth for Kids. It will great job for him. Someone ask about Nikulin and his situation for NHL. Last news I hear from my friend in Russia, that he is going to play with Ak-Bars. He makes really good money there.

By Bob

June 20, 2008 9:22 AM | Link to this

Does DW wants to break the news himself? EGO,EGO,EGO

You got it. He probably wants to announce it tonight at the draft. It’s Anderson. Why are they are going out of their way to make Mark Knopfler look bad in his first job after retiring from Dire Straits?

By GaVaHokie

June 20, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this

Three guys in the rumor mill I’d like to see Waddell target, possibly trading the #29 pick.

RJ Umberger, Joni Pitkanen, Jarrett Stoll.

Let’s make a game of it. You get 3 picks from this list.

By R. Stroz

June 20, 2008 9:47 AM | Link to this

ROLL CALL

Who is going to Philips tonight for the draft party?

You can register on the blog as a yes, no, or maybe.

Bring a BULLHORN with you.

Please remember you don’t have to spend any money, except for gas.

By R. Stroz

June 20, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this

GaVaHokie - Didn’t Stoll get some kind of leg or knee injury toward the end of last season which required surgury?

By Alan

June 20, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this