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Town Hall Meeting And Tanking

Town Hall Meeting Tonight Before Wild Game

By now, all STH should have their invites to the Town Hall Meeting hosted by Don Waddell that is slated to begin at 5:30.

I hope all that are able to attend will do so. Regardless what you think about the ASG, Waddell, or the direction of the team… whether or not you support the current GM or feel a change is needed…this is a chance for you to hear directly from the man. He will address those he obviously understands are upset with how this team has played over the past several weeks and you will be able to give back your thoughts and concerns.

Personally, I commend him for doing so and for setting up the forum.

I look forward to reading the comments and observations from those who will be in attendance.

To Tank Or Not To Tank

I’ve heard a lot of chatter in here and in Craig’s blog about wanting the Thrashers to phone in their games and lose. The thought process being to “aim low” and go for the draft pick positioning. However, I’m not a fan of the idea.

Oh, I understand the logic…but as I sat in my seat last Wednesday night, knowing the chance of post-season play was a long shot at best, I still wanted my team to win. In fact, I want them to not only win…but to win the rest of the games from here on out!

It would be awesome, would it not? Were it to happen, and the team go roaring into the playoffs on a 13-1 tear, I would post a “Don, I was wrrr…I was wrrrr…I was less-correct-than-I-normally-am” blog… and I’d do it with a big, fat, hairy smile on my face!

Now, do I expect that this will be the case? No…I’m a dreamer, but I’m not delusional.

However, every game they play, like tonight against Minnesota and tomorrow in Florida, I WANT them to win THAT game, or at least FIGHT hard to win that game. I just can’t root for them to lose.

Sorry, it isn’t in me.

Burn Baby, Burn

OK, I’m sure most of you all saw this on Craig’s blog already, but it’s worth reposting here. My question for him is this…will he be attending the Town Hall Meeting tonight to deliver the urn of ashes to Don?

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By TNT

March 7, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this

I’m with you about losing for a good draft pick. As pathetic as this team is playing, knowing that they are intentionally losing just to get a good pick, would be the last straw. At this point I don’t expect them to win the game, but if they showed some effort and played their butts off, I’d be alot happier.

By timthebrave

March 7, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this

I went to wed game and saw that pathetic mess. It was unwatchable. It looked like carolina was on a 60 min power play. Maybe that is what some people want so that we can get a good draft pick but that p** me off bad! I’d rather see them play good and win or if they don’t win at least play entertaining hockey.

By Manley

March 7, 2008 3:45 PM | Link to this

I can see the reasoning behind tanking, but tonight’s game is supposed to be televised over here, so they better not do it tonight! This is the first game I will get to see all season since the three other times Armed Forces Network showed the Thrashers either I was busy or it didn’t actually come on but was substituted by another game.

If any game of the season was going to be entertaining, this one is for the folks overseas and they better get it right! Pass that on to DW at the Town Hall so the guys can kick it into gear.

I must admit, though, that for the past few night games I have not bothered to get up at 3a.m. to listen to them (I did listen to the afternoon games last week). Just couldn’t justify going short on sleep for that kind of performance. But I would very much LIKE for it to be worth it for the remaining few. If they show me something tonight I will make the effort.

LET’S GO THRASHERS!!!

By Left to Right

March 7, 2008 3:52 PM | Link to this

Perhaps fans will have an opportunity to hear about Waddell’s next 5 year plan. Anything other than an anouncement of Waddell’s resignation is just going to be spin. There is no reason to go to this sham. Performance speaks louder than words, and the performance of the Thrashers throughout Waddell’s almost TEN YEAR career has been the very definition of mediocre.

By J(Z)

March 7, 2008 3:52 PM | Link to this

Tanking is something that no TEAM should ever be permitted to do. Any player who is purposely tanking needs to permanently banned from the sport.

However, as fans of the team, as the founder of Operation Believe in Tankland, and for the good of the future of this organ-I-zation…I hope we lose any many games as possible to get the best draft pick possible.

With THAT said. I go to almost all the games and I do NOT root for the team to do poorly. I also just don’t got it in me. I’m just not as disappointed in losses now.

This team is now 6 points ahead of the Kings for the worst record in the NHL. For the good of our future…our motto should be Go Kings, Go Nings!

By ToF

March 7, 2008 4:01 PM | Link to this

Rawhide I’m part of the tank-it camp, but that doesn’t mean I WANT us to lose. Honestly, I think its neccessary for the improvement of our team that we get good draft picks (which is made much easier by good draft position).

We are not singing Brian Campbell or Wade Redden (or anyone of their quality) this summer. I’m sorry, but there are 29 other teams out there,the majority of which are far more tempting to sign with. I hate saying this but, Bobby Holik is the biggest UFA we have managed to draw here (and it took a grossly inflated salary).

What on earth makes anybody on this blog think that Top Tier free agents will be willing to come here? What incentive do they have? Does complacent ownership draw FAs? How about a team with no coach? How about a team that has proven time and time again that nobody gives a flying !@#$ the entire way up the management chain. Ladies and gentlem, look at the reasons Hossa cited for walking. Why would another top tier UFA sign here after watching that situation?

By Rawhide

March 7, 2008 4:36 PM | Link to this

Manley - Hey dude!! How’s it going? I hope the boys play up for ya tonight!

Left to Right - Obviously he is feeling some heat. But this is better than taking a bunker-style mentality. I’m sure we’ll have much to discuss about it later when we hear from the attendees.

ToF - OK, I think what you said about the inability to bring in high-caliber talent, especially on defense, is spot on.

But then, isn’t that the most damning evidence against the current front office?

By Bob

March 7, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this

Let me give you the cliff notes from the Waddell spin, save you the rush down there tonight:

  1. We’re going to make our first priority a coach.

  2. We’re going to sign a #1 center.

  3. We’re going to sign 2 defensemen

  4. We’re announcing the following super special season ticket holder benefits such as in game seat upgrades to move down low, assorted giveaways, 2-1 Manilow tix!

  5. We have some up and coming promising youngsters, you just wait!

  6. If you all buy that I can accomplish that, I have some nice oceanfront property in Montana to sell you

By R. Stroz

March 7, 2008 4:51 PM | Link to this

Bob - Sounds like the same cliff notes I picked up the othr day.

Well, except for the Montana property.

By squawksmcgrew

March 7, 2008 4:51 PM | Link to this

What makes anyone think that having a high draft pick is a plus with Waddell’s recent run?

By Brendan

March 7, 2008 5:00 PM | Link to this

While I don’t the Thrashers to lose, every point we amass is hurting our “weighted percentage chance” of winning a high pick in the lottery draft.

Since we’re talking about bringing in top talent, at this point, the best way to do that is to draft it. Free Agents won’t come to Atlanta until such time as Atlanta is a “Cup contender.” Atlanta will have to rely on its farm system and players like Little, Sterling, Valabik, Oystrick, Grant Lewis, Colin Stuart, and Ondrej Pavelec, to make the leap up to the pros, and contribute once they get here. No one should expect any “miracles” here. Tanking again next year will allow the franchise to get a shot at Taveres.

Chew on this folks, imagine Tavares and Stampkos playing with Kovy and Kozlov? We’d be a lot better. And the future would actually look fairly bright. Even if it’s Doughty (a blueliner) and Tavares, that’s still acquiring good, young Canadian talent for the future. But, we’ll need “luck” along the way. We could wind up drafting 5th. And Lord knows who we’d get there.

By BuzzEng

March 7, 2008 5:34 PM | Link to this

I’m with you, Rawhide. I just can’t cheer for the Thrashers to lose. I can cheer for others to lose, and I can be complacent when they lose (now), but cheering for them to intentionally lose just so they can get a good draft pick isn’t ethical. Besides, if the Kings and Nings are tanking , too, to get a top draft pick, we’ll lose that effort , too. How bad would it be to lose at losing?!?

By puckjunque

March 7, 2008 5:49 PM | Link to this

Amens please…..

Bow your heads, hands joined on the keyboards

Oh Heavenly Father, thank you for listening to our prayers and for the blessings you have bestowed upon the Thrashers. Please use your loving grace to guide this team in a positive direction; strengthening their leadership, defensive skills and teamwork. Please empower the Thrashers to fight for a win in regulation tonight, be agressive, defend our net and kick the Wild’s a$$! AMEN!!!

By Johan H.

March 7, 2008 5:58 PM | Link to this

Hello Mr. Tiller,

I have to make this quick while the coaches are upstairs! I will lead my teammates to victory tonight. No funny bounces, no non-whistles. Just a straight up Thrashers victory. Just you watch and see Mr. Tiller!

By HookyBob

March 7, 2008 6:14 PM | Link to this

Manley: I hope the Thrashers put your blog on their dressing room bulletin board tonight.

I have tickets to tonight’s game and am passing. What does that say?

However, we have renewed our season tickets. Poor NHL hockey is better than no NHL hockey. I think this is why we see so many “opponent” or “some other team” jerseys at games. They come to see the stars, not necessarily the home team.

I like the Wild,…but I’d give anything for the home team to beat them.

Go Blue,..give us a reason to believe (e.g. renew).

By Rawhide

March 7, 2008 6:26 PM | Link to this

A-FREAKIN’-MEN!!! Excellent petition to the Great Thundermaker In The Sky!!!

Now, Let’s go WHIP the WILD!!

squawksmcgrew - Gteetings!

BuzzEng - Lose at losing?? Un-good!

TNT - Well said.

HookyBobb - Sad commentary indeed.

Johan H. - I hope you’re right!

By kracker

March 7, 2008 6:40 PM | Link to this

Tonight: Win one for Manley and for all the Manleys listen or watching on the Armed Forces Network!

I, as a Tank-it proponent, don’t want us to lose them all. I don’t think the Thrash can ‘catch’ the Bolts or Kings in going for low, I just want to maintain the current position of 28th entering the draft lottery.

What, O Hockey Sages, can be done about the following debacle of a situation?

Thrashers need a real farm club

Until the organization gets a real developmental relationship formed with an AHL club, the Thrashers will forever be at a serious disadvantage in developing our prospects. Furthermore, why would any top GM or coach ever agree to hire into such a losing situation?

By Vitamin Z

March 7, 2008 7:47 PM | Link to this

Watch Atlanta vs. Minnesota game Live Now, on Yahoo. Great for people without Center Ice! :)

By Brendan

March 7, 2008 7:52 PM | Link to this

A-men, PJ.

Ya know, folks. Sommmmmewhere out there … there is an assistant GM who is very close friends with a Coach. And together, they’re calling each other. “So, what do you make of this situation in Atlanta? Do you really think Waddell will get fired, and we can swoop in, as GM and Head Coach?”

Well, all I can do is hope there is.

By Vitamin Z

March 7, 2008 8:16 PM | Link to this

8:4 shots…0:1 score…not that bad.

By PJ

March 7, 2008 8:23 PM | Link to this

Vitamin Z

Re: Yahoo live feed. FYI, I’m north of the perimeter and I get a lovey women’s voice telling me that it’s not available in my area. Are you south?

So, What happened in the meeting? Anybody? Somebody? Beuller?

By Thrasher Ryan

March 7, 2008 8:33 PM | Link to this

A late amen PJ!

It’s 1-0 Minnehaha after 1. Brian Rolston with a rocket blast from the point on a 5 on 3.

Outshot again in the 1st!

Quite a few Wild fans in attendance tonight. A lot actually.

Holik has 2 BIG hits in the 1st. Would like to see some more from the rest of the team. Would like to see my Thrashers finally beat these guys!

PJ—All I know so far is that Waddell guaranteed STH’s he would not be Head Coach next year. I heard Kamal say that on the radio.

GO BLUE!!!

By Vitamin Z

March 7, 2008 8:34 PM | Link to this

PJ - if this happens, you would have to go through Proxy to hide your actual location.

By David

March 7, 2008 8:42 PM | Link to this

Will the Atlanta Thrashers be for sale soon?‏

By Vitamin Z

March 7, 2008 8:43 PM | Link to this

Wow! 5-on-2 and we can’t score! That’s something else.

By Alan

March 7, 2008 9:12 PM | Link to this

Will the Atlanta Thrashers be for sale soon?‏

Nope. Not until the lawsuit is decided, at the very least.

By Thrasher Ryan

March 7, 2008 9:18 PM | Link to this

It’s still 1-0 Minnehaha after 2!

Outshot 27-13! That sucks!

I like the Kozlov—Holik—Thorburn line, but I wanna try: Boulton—Holik—Thorburn.

For this to take place, I would send Larsen to Chicago, and call up either Haydar or Desbiens to play RW on Kovy’s line, with Little at Center.

Recchi would move to the 4th line with Slater and Kozlov.

Kovalchuk—Little—Haydar/Desbiens

Perrin—Christensen—Armstrong

Boulton—Holik—Thorburn

Kozlov—Slater—Recchi

I remember how well Slater worked with another veteran, Scott Mellanby. I think Slater would work well with Recchi.

GO BLUE!!!

By David

March 7, 2008 9:18 PM | Link to this

why is there a lawsuit?

I did not know about the lawsuit

I guess it would be for sale after the season.

By Archie

March 7, 2008 9:19 PM | Link to this

Kracker, that’s the best point I’ve ever seen on this forum! I heard about that situation with the Chicago Wolves a while back and the importance of it cannot be stated enough. I don’t entirely blame the Thrashers for it, but they certainly have an equal share of the blame. I blame the Blackhawks and the Wirtz family ownership as much as anyone for losing control of the Chicago hockey market, the Wolves are simply trying to carve out their market share. The Thrashers, as far as I’ve heard, have been searching for a new AHL affiliate for quite some time, but they aren’t available on demand, circumstances have to play out just right to get a new AHL affiliate. That’s a huge reason why so few draft prospects make it through to the big league club. Unless they’re a draft pick that skips the AHL entirely (like Kovy, Heatley, Exelby or Enstrom), or only plays there during the lockout like Lehtonen, then the Wolves are a dead end for quality draft picks. So what looks like shoddy drafting by Waddell (which it may or may not be, we’ll never know), may actually be an indifferent farm team. When I first heard about this situation, I thought it was the single biggest problem in the entire Thrashers organization, I’m glad it’s finally been brought to the forefront.

By Rawhide

March 7, 2008 9:22 PM | Link to this

STH MEETING NEWS FLASH

This is raw data coming in via phone text form my source…so it may be rough & need clarifying later…

According to my contact in the STH Townhall Meeting the following was discussed:

  1. DW said he will NOT be coach next season…well…DUH

  2. Don said “He knows there’s a problem on defense”….again…DUH

  3. BL said he never “refused Don anything”. Whatever that means

  4. BL said there will be a “quality product on ice” next year I presume

  5. DW said only quality players on D at deadline would have only been a rental & did not wish to mortgage future again….I can understand that…but doesn’t that also sound like he admits he can’t resign a qualiy UFA?

  6. DW said that leadership was something that was missing this year… I’m going to wear out my DUH button

  7. BL indicated that the choice was made to keep DW behind bench due to fact they felt no quality coach was out there and they did not want to bring up Anderson at this time.

  8. BL was asked what his biggest regret was…he said not telling DW “no” when asked to stay behind the bench…..DUH button now broken

  9. BL indicates that new coach would probably come from AHL read between those lines

If you were there and read this…please confirm or correct.

By Thrasher Ryan

March 7, 2008 9:35 PM | Link to this

Thanks RH.

By Alan

March 7, 2008 9:40 PM | Link to this

If Don is still a GM next season, I will be shocked. If what Levenson is saying about Don’s requests is The Truth™, then this means Don was never “handcuffed by the owners” and it seems the buck stops at Waddell, not at the owners.

However, Levenson’s decision to keep Waddell behind the bench instead of bringing Anderson up to coach was a very bad idea. It’s as if Levenson actually thought AHL-Chicago was there to help develop our players. It’s not. It’s there to develop their players. Our players don’t play often unless they’re good and productive in their system.

Maybe Levenson has learned his lesson, regarding the coaching change. I’m willing to give the ASG more time, but I think for Waddell, an eleventh hour attempt to talk his way out of this debacle is too little, way too late.

By Thrasher Ryan

March 7, 2008 9:41 PM | Link to this

Wow. Just wow.

No comment until confirmation on this!

Come on THRASHERS! I know you know how to score a damn goal or 2!

PJ—I’m north of the Perimeter and can hear it fine on 680. The Center Ice delay is not that bad again tonight.

GO BLUE!!!

By Brendan

March 7, 2008 9:41 PM | Link to this

Rawhide, thanks for that update. So, I take it Waddell didn’t resign and BL didn’t announce his firing either. And really, that’s what the STHs went there to find out.

Halfway throught the 3rd period, Minnesota 1, Atlanta 0. One Minnesota announced, “Thrashers hangin’ tough in this one.” The other Minnesota announcer countered, “Hanging tough? More like ‘hanging around.’ They’ve been outhit, outhustled, outshot, and outchanced. The Wild have let them hang around by not cashing in on chances. And, as a result, the Thrashers are one shot away from tying this game.”

By PJ

March 7, 2008 9:42 PM | Link to this

Tampa Bay lost in OT to NJ to gain a point. Now at 60.

LET’S GO THRASHERS, JUST SCORE A GOAL!!!

By Rawhide

March 7, 2008 9:45 PM | Link to this

TR - Wise move…my mole will e-mail me transcripts of notes taken during THM after the game and I will update at that time.

By Thrasher Ryan

March 7, 2008 9:52 PM | Link to this

5:16 left in the 3rd! Colby Armstrong just scored! It’s 1-1!

HELL YEAH BABY! You gotta win this game boys!

GO BLUE!!!

By David

March 7, 2008 9:55 PM | Link to this

TO Alan

Could you please keep me updated?

davidmullally2007-08@hotmail.com ‏ Nope. Not until the lawsuit is decided, at the very least.

By PJ

March 7, 2008 9:57 PM | Link to this

Rawhide

Thanks for the update!

TR Yahoo offers live feed in certain areas (visual), I have audio - computer or car(XM). But thanks for the tip. 680 seems to overlap and get staticky in my area once you get beyond a mile off the Fwy.

By Brendan

March 7, 2008 9:58 PM | Link to this

Rawhide, I want to ask you, and ALL MY FELLOW BLOGGERS, what do you guys think about this as the “new” measuring stick for the future? I’d say … we’re pretty much in the same boat as Tampa Bay. That is, a team that’s been or is being dismantled. I think the losses of Prospal and Brad Richards qualifies in that regard for the Bolts. Both teams are headed towards the lottery draft this year. So, can we say it’s “fair” to compare ourselves vs. Tampa Bay as a the “litmus” test for the next three years? And let’s see which franchise wins by 2011.

Oddly enough, we’ve seen this before. In 2001, the Tampa Bay Lightning finished DEAD LAST in the league, with Atlanta just above them. The “hockey gods” tossed us a bone in the lottery draft, as Atlanta won the 1st overall selection, and took Ilya Kovalchuk.

Since then (2001), what happened? Well, in Atlanta’s case, it experienced a steady flow of INCREMENTAL PROGRESS, that ultimately resulted in one playoff berth and no playoff wins. In the case of Tampa Bay, it resulted in playoff berths in 2003, 2004, 2006, and 2007. In 2003, the Bolts advanced to the second round, but lost to eventual Cup winners, the New Jersey Devils. In 2006 and 2007, Tampa Bay lost in the opening round. And, of course, in 2004, the Lightning won the Stanley Cup.

It’s pretty clear which franchise won the last time both were in the same boat. How do you like our chances to beat them this time around?

2-1 Wild, Minnesota PPG, with just over 2:00 left in regulation. Colby Armstrong got the Thrashers goal.

By Thrasher Ryan

March 7, 2008 10:02 PM | Link to this

2-2! :44 left! Kovalchuk just scored!

GO BLUE!!!

By PJ

March 7, 2008 10:03 PM | Link to this

Come on Thrashers, score one more!!

By Thrasher Ryan

March 7, 2008 10:07 PM | Link to this

Going to OT!

It’s OK to give out a bonus point tonight to a Western Conference team. But you must earn 2 POINTS! For the sake of the franchise! You must beat Minnehaha for the 1st time!!!

GO BLUE!!!

By Brendan

March 7, 2008 10:11 PM | Link to this

Thanks to Kovalchuk, we’re headed to a shootout. Manley thanks #17 from the bottom of his heart.

By Thrasher Ryan

March 7, 2008 10:15 PM | Link to this

Going to the SO! Gotta use Bryan Little!

GO BLUE!!!

By PJ

March 7, 2008 10:16 PM | Link to this

To those with visual - Is Kovy still having trouble with his knee? Is he still wearing a brace?

By Rawhide

March 7, 2008 10:20 PM | Link to this

THRASHERS WINLOSING STREAK OVER!!

All is right with the world!!!!

By Brendan

March 7, 2008 10:21 PM | Link to this

Erik Christensen, the shootout specialist acquired in the Hossa trade at the deadline, won it for the Thrashers. He was Atlanta’s second shooter. Kozlov had a nice move, but his shot hit the outside of the post. Kovalchuk’s shot missed the net entirely. Moose Hedberg stopped all three Minnesota shooters.

By Thrasher Ryan

March 7, 2008 10:24 PM | Link to this

They did it! They beat the Wild! 3-2 in the shootout! Erik Christensen with the Game Winner!

HELL YEAH!

I suggest everyone listen to the postgame radio show if you want info. I’m sure some STHers will call in.

Pretty sure you can get it at www.680thefan.com too.

By Brendan

March 7, 2008 10:25 PM | Link to this

PJ, Kovalchuk looked fine to me. But, he can’t be 100-percent. And probably won’t be until next season starts. But uhh, I’m not a doctor, obviously.

By TNT

March 7, 2008 10:38 PM | Link to this

To all who say Moose should go and Lehts should stay, just look at tonight. Moose faces 39 shots, only gives up 2 goals, has enough gas to win a SO, and shows enough fire to get a 10 minute misconduct. That shows me alot. But as if that’s not enough, think about this. Pavalic will come up next year. Who do you want mentoring this young stud? A proven vet who can help him and seems to have no problem being a solid backup? Or a young headcase with little self confidence that would not want share time on the ice, and might even try to sabotage any chance to make Pavalic the starter? Add that to the fact that we could maybe get something for Lehts, and would get nothing for Moose. I’d just as soon have Moose back next year. That is if he would even want to stay. Just my opinion.

By Alan

March 7, 2008 10:43 PM | Link to this

David - I’d very much love to keep you updated; however, I’m not an “insider” on the whole lawsuit thing. I’m just an observer.

You’ll know when the case is settled. The ASG owns both the Thrash and the Hawks, so you know any court decision will be on the front page of the sports page…

… Because of the Hawks, of course. Gah, I was so disturbed to flip through the sports page today in search of NHL news, only to find anything NHL on the back damn page. Even Gymnastics news made it before hockey. Whoever made that decision needs to be smacked.

By BG33Brown

March 7, 2008 10:47 PM | Link to this

rawhide town meeting update.

A few things i found of interest.

First, DW thinks we need two top 4 defensemen. Not that i disagree but that certainly points toward offseason stuff.

2nd. The extra player in the hossa deal was going to be Dupuis or Perrin. They talked to Dupuis the week before the deadline and apparently Dupuis has “dulisions of grandur” (my words for thinks he is a top 6 player) that is why he moved.

3rd. Levenson thinks are tickets are cheap. Overall, that maybe. But he obviously hasn’t look at lower bowl vs elsewhere in the league.

4th. we were in the market for campbell up until that move went down, but we “weren’t willing to match the steep price.”

To me the most frustrating thing was the length of then answers. They wanted to stall as long as possible for each question. The STH stuff was what I expected. But I apprecaited the tough questions.

Finally a win. Go Thrash.

By BG33Brown

March 7, 2008 10:52 PM | Link to this

Also that last penalty on Kiwi was the worst call I have seen all season.

By Brendan

March 7, 2008 10:54 PM | Link to this

TNT, wouldn’t having all three, maybe, be the best situation? With one goalie sitting up in the pressbox each night?

I like Hedberg, too. I argued with Ranallo that he had decent “rental” value. Bygones. I can’t and won’t begrudge Hedberg his right to do what’s best for him. He’ll probably get a 2-3 year contract to be the backup for another team.

But as for Lehtonen, TNT, imagine the media reaction to yet another of Atlanta’s “highly prized lottery draft picks” flying the coop? Think about it. Stefan, Heatley, then Lehtonen?? In addition Coburn, an 8th overall pick, also leaving the organization. And then, there’s the potential of replicating this year we had with Hossa, in 2009-10, with Kovalchuk’s pending unrestricted free agency. And if Kovalchuk leaves, that would be the LAST of the “building blocks” that were to have sustained us through our infancy and into Stanley Cup contendership. It would look “horrible.” Plus, we still don’t know what Lehtonen could become. Really, truly. We don’t. Give him a decent blueline, and his numbers will get better.

By Smoothie

March 7, 2008 11:08 PM | Link to this

I have nothing but man-love for Johan Christian Hedberg. If you ask me, he should be our next head coach and back-up goaltender. He’ll know when Kari needs a rest and insert himself when the team is ready for a “jolt”…a shot in the arm if you will. Obviously, I like to engage in hyperbole, but whoso would be a man would be a Moose admirer…he is the consummate professional and about as clutch as a 5’10” “midget” can be in the NHL these days. And to think the NHL wants goalie equipment to be even smaller!! Moose could stop 35 shots in his underwears…what incredible reflexes! MOOOOOOOOOOOSE!!!!!!!!

By Eileen

March 7, 2008 11:39 PM | Link to this

Smoothie, I second the love for Moose. I hate to think of him gone after this year. Kovy (1st star) thanked the fans and said “we really need you”. Personally that meant a lot to me since I was on the fence about going to the game tonight. The sellout enthusiastic crowd was an unexpected surprise.

By Rawhide

March 7, 2008 11:41 PM | Link to this

BG33Brown - Thanks!!! I would like to think that Campbell is still in their scopes this summer. If DW is really committed to getting quality blueliners this summer, he’s a good one to start with.

Also, interesting comment regarding Dupuis.

David - Keep pokin’ your head in here and Craig’s blog. The people will let ya know when there is news regarding that situation.

TNT - That would be a ballsy move…I guess it would echo Brendan’s remarks regarding the reaction.

By Smoothie

March 7, 2008 11:44 PM | Link to this

Eileen — too bad Kovy is one of the few who has a passion for making this team better. If Moose is the coach, then Kovy damn well better be the captain…lead by example and the rest will follow.

BTW, if Levenson was that much of an arrogant jerk, then we are in much more trouble than I thought. Perhaps DWad is at his wit’s end and will resign his post thus freeing himself from the clusterf&*k albatross around his neck!

By R. Stroz

March 7, 2008 11:57 PM | Link to this

Who else thought Levenson came across as a jerk?

By TNT

March 8, 2008 12:07 AM | Link to this

Keeping three would be good, but I can’t see Lehts enjoying it. He seems to pout when he doesn’t get the start, like he thinks the Coach has no confidence in him. And as good as Pav is, who wants to see him sit alot? The games I saw him in earlier when Kari was hurt, he needs to be a starter somewhere. I don’t really have anything against Kari. I know as bad as the D was this year, alot of goals weren’t his fault. He just doesn’t seem to keep it together when things go bad, which they did alot this year. Maybe another year of maturity will help, and some D help will come in the off season.

By Nix

March 8, 2008 1:17 AM | Link to this

PJ, during the town hall meeting, Waddell mentioned that the doctors originally said Kovy’s injury would take ~4 weeks to heal, but that he was back on the ice after 2 games off b/c (and I’m paraphrasing here) that’s just the kind of stud that Kovy is. I don’t think he’s 100% yet, for what it’s worth. But I couldn’t tell if he was still wearing a brace.

RStroz, yes, Levenson seemed like a jerk. Him basically telling that couple who went to the Bruins game that they were either too stupid to be able to read the ticket price or they were liars was not impressive. Note to those not there, he didn’t say they were stupid or liars, that was just the implication.

Tankland proponents, tonight’s game exemplifies why I can’t join your ranks. I go to hockey games because I love that rush we get with 2 minutes on the clock and a chance to win or squeeze into overtime. I love seeing them fight and hustle for the puck. That excitement, that sense of community with an arena full of people who all have the same goal as you, that euphoria when the puck goes in… it can’t be beat.

And, on top of that, there is a part of me that can’t stomach the thought of a bunch of guys that get paid more per game than I do per 6 months should get the chance to coast (even more than the sometimes do).

But mostly, it’s about the stadium high :-)

By Downtown ATL

March 8, 2008 1:25 AM | Link to this

A weekend game with 6,000 people in the stands begging to learn hockey and become Thrashers fans. I saw them tonight, I talked to them tonight, I high fived them tonight. If my full season ticket dollar is being used to subsidize the newbies; so be it. And by the way… Minnesota Wild fans are classy, classy, classy.

By j nes

March 8, 2008 1:27 AM | Link to this

Rawhide to clarify:”BL said he never “refused Don anything”. Whatever that means

I went to the meeting tonight and asked the first question from the audience. I was originally going to ask Wadell why he chose to tell the fans/media at the beginning of the season that the 6 million in free cap space would give the team the “flexibility” to make improvements to the team before or at the trade deadline—and why after saying this he spent none of the available money to help a struggling team. I figured he would give some BS answer about how there were no players available that were a good fit for the club. Fortunately, I was pleasantly surprised when that weasel Levinson showed up and I was able to alter the question and address it to both of them. It was something like this:

“At the beggining of the year the team was 6 million under the cap and we were told that money would be used to improve the club before or after the trade deadline. Was it an ownership decison or a GM decision not to use this available cap space to improve the team?” I wanted to paint them into a corner in hopes of getting a straight answer. I honestly don’t think they knew how to answer this question, nor were they prepared for it. BL looked to DW, and DW looked to BL. After dancing around the question for about five minutes, the closest thing to an answer was BL saying that the owners never denied DW any requests. This looked like it might have been a touchy subject between the two of them. After all, DW couldn’t exactly sell out his boss and say it was the ASG’s fault he could not spend the money needed to help the club. And Levinson said they never denied him requests, but maybe DW was told he couldn’t spend money so why would he make requests to do so?

It is a lot of speculation on my part, but by not answering the question that has been burning me up for days, that is all I can do. Sorry for the long post.

By Brendan

March 8, 2008 1:34 AM | Link to this

Lehtonen doesn’t have the “luxury” of enjoying it. He’s just got to do it. If it he elevates his game, he’ll get the vast majority of the starts. And if KL even wants to be a $7 million-a-year type goaltender, he’s got to make his move soon. He was drafted in 2002!

I doubt an RFA offer sheet would be much more than HALF that figure, if there were one offered. At this point, I can’t envision what’s holding up Kari’s contract negotiation? I mean, price goes only one way from here: Up! I know DWad’s policy is to not negotiate during the season. But, clearly, he did that for Hossa. For a supposedly “cash-strapped” organ-I-zation, I can’t understand why they would even consider letting another team jack up the price on Lehtonen, or subject him to an RFA offer sheet, when he can probably be re-signed rather cheaply right now.

By the way, Moose Hedberg has more wins than Kari this year. I repeat, this is an optimum to go re-sign Kari. What about re-signing Moose? Well, if you were Moose, why wouldn’t you want to test the waters? You’re probably going to be about to cite a 15-win season. There will be a lot of teams calling his agent this Summer. And who knows, Moose might want OUTTA here, anyway.

By j nes

March 8, 2008 1:40 AM | Link to this

and by the way, DW alluded to the idea of Valabik being called up THIS SEASON. I don’t think people will be impressed with him(aside from his size), but I do hope he proves me wrong.

By Alan

March 8, 2008 1:53 AM | Link to this

j nes - I don’t know what else you’d propose. It’s not like we have an abundance of large D-men who would be better suited to camp out in front of our own net, knock people off the puck and/or block shots. It would also give the fans in Atlanta a good look at Valabik against NHL’ers at the height of the homestretch. So many people here only know what they’ve heard. Valabik has come a very long way over the past year. If he’s not on the team next season, he’ll definitely make the 09-10 squad… barring any unforeseen issues, of course. But that goes for anyone.

By Brendan

March 8, 2008 1:59 AM | Link to this

j nes, thank you. That was an awesome question and a wonderfully-shared post. Good job! I suspect you nailed when you said, And Levenson said they never denied him requests, but maybe DW was told he couldn’t spend money, so why would he make requests to do so? Bingo.

Ya know, a child can ask his parents if he or she can have a can of frosting for dinner. But, it’s pretty clear the answer will be “no.” And that the request will be met with scorn and hostility. So the question isn’t asked.

Just once, I wish Don Waddell would say, “I wonder if Lou Lamoriello ever has these kinds of discussions with the Devils organization?” I wonder what possibly drives Don Waddell to WANT to remain the GM of this team? Everyone you can think of … blames HIM for everything. And well, yes. He is responsible for a good bit of it. Even Waddell’s dog looks at him with that, “Can’t believe you signed Byron Dafoe and Steve Shields” look on his face. And yet, he won’t resign. He won’t stand up and say, “I’ve had enough! I’m mad as H#LL. And I’m not going to take this anymore!!” Nope. He plugs along, merrily. Perhaps thinking that things are really “okay,” and only needing a “tweak” here and there. That’s really troubling, if true. For the ASG completely and utterly RELIES on his judgement for all roster matters.

This is the blind leading the naked to the fashion show … where the Emperor will be modeling his “new clothes.”

By ToF

March 8, 2008 2:05 AM | Link to this

Ladies and Gentlemen, I think you are missing something very important in the tank it camp: we ARE fans and are still stoked when we win.

David here is a pretty good link about the lawsuit The gist of it was that the Hawks made a trade for Joe Johnson that owner Steve Belkin objected too. He was then kicked out of the group and he took it to court. A Maryland judge ruled that Belkin had the right to buy out his partners and they are currently challenging the ruling. The current impasse is going on a year and a half I think.

By Sharon

March 8, 2008 2:07 AM | Link to this

Kracker and Archie - I was stunned when I read the specifics of how our farm system operates. I had no idea that our developmental program was so damn weak. The article clears up some questions I had, but I actually feel worse for the knowledge.

On a postive note, thanks for tonight, Moose!

By R. Stroz

March 8, 2008 2:16 AM | Link to this

j nes - Thanks you throwing a hard fastball on the first pitch. It sounds like BL and DW were taken off guard.

A few concerns have already surfaced from my perspective:

1) we were in the market for campbell up until that move went down, but we “weren’t willing to match the steep price.”

Could this also be foreshadowing going into free agency this summer? I’m afraid I can hear it now, “We didn’t sign any big name defenseman because the price was too steep. We did however pick up a couple of defenseman with great potential.”

2) Who is going to be Kovy’s center next year? Instead of looking for a top tier center for Kovy, DW is looking for a winger. So, is White going to remain as Kovy’s center or does Little get a longer look at that slot?

3) Since the Thrashers already have 5 defensemen under contract for next season, Valabik may be brought up, and DW stated that the organization was targeting two more defensemen, which defensemen under contract are going to get dumped(Zhitnik sounds like a good name)? What happens to Popovic?

By R. Stroz

March 8, 2008 2:28 AM | Link to this

BTW, I’ll continue to sit on my wallet until Thrashers management talk turns into action.

By Alan

March 8, 2008 2:35 AM | Link to this

ToF, David - Here’s a better link

Not as in-depth as an actual report, but it’s more current with the timeline.

By ranallo10

March 8, 2008 3:19 AM | Link to this

Stroz — “The price was too steep” meant he wasn’t willing to make ANOTHER Zhitnik move. Buffalo wanted Pavelec AND a first round pick, he didn’t feel it was worth it for a player who obviously wants to test Free Agency. Honestly, I’m glad he didn’t make that trade…a deadline acquisition really wouldn’t have helped the team.

BG33Brown — I was at the game, and moaned about Kwiatkowski hooking the guy at the blueline. Everyone around me didn’t understand why i was moaning, and when the replay was shown they skipped the penalty and showed the second before he knocked the player down. If you were at the game I can understand why you would think it was a bad call, but from where I was sitting (204, behind the goal) it was a pretty obvious hook in my opinion. But that’s what I saw live, it could’ve been way off on TV with the benefit of instant replay.

Nothing compares to the no-call last game. That was ridiculous.

By ranallo10

March 8, 2008 3:35 AM | Link to this

Here’s a solid Town Hall meeting recap (courtesy of The Smirkin Chicken)

It’s a long read, but a good wrap-up.

By BG33Brown

March 8, 2008 7:53 AM | Link to this

Ranallo my seats are in 206, a little to your left and i didn’t see it. But I also don’t think I saw Kiwi at our blueline on the dump in.

Question, did he actually challange someone at the blueline or was he in retreat? B/C it he stepped up-well S**t-that is the first time all season.

By LAC

March 8, 2008 8:21 AM | Link to this

Thanks ranallo for the link, VERY interesting…

From the side bites, it seems Waddell may have his hands tied by these IDIOTS !!!!!!

I still DO NOT like Waddell’s moves, but seems from the report, he see’s the sitution for what it is, and when the boss says go buy a new company car, you think Hot Damn… But then he says don’t spend over $10K… YUCK !

These owners are just a group of little misfits than could not run a street corner lemonade stand, Just a DAMN shame someone did not go up and bust levenson’s potty mouth, it sure would be worth a couple yars in the klink, just to see him get his due, levenson YOU SUCK PUNK !!!!!!!!

By Eileen

March 8, 2008 8:24 AM | Link to this

For what it is worth, a day after. Downtown Atl mentioned the MN fans. Amen to that. What great people. 175 of them boarded a bus on their annual Wild Road trip. Good, salt of the earth people.

By Sara

March 8, 2008 9:00 AM | Link to this

Brendan I think it comes dwn to the fact that Don loves this team. It’s his baby in every sense of the word. He was here at it’s conception, brought it into the world, helped it grow up and watched it grow up. I doubt he wants to leave it. In all seriousness, no matter how much anyone might think Waddell blows as a GM and how much of this is his fault, there can be no question that he is committed to this team. That doesn’t guarantee correct decision-making 100% of the time, but it counts for a lot too. He wants this team to be successful.

And on a complete side note, I just looked out the window and saw snowflurries - cool!

Anyway…this team is at a MAJOR crossroads this summer. Regardless of what does or does not happen with the GM position, they have to hire a new coach, attempt to upgrade our d x2 (by their own admission) which isn’t going to be easy because I’m not sure who would want to come play here. There’s the draft to consider as well and I think a lot will hinge on how our first pick falls. Obviously, if we somehow miraculously secured the top overall pick, our search for a number one center is over. If not…there are some seriously good defensemen. If we luck out with another Enstrom, we may only need to pick up one big UFA on D. Who knows.

I guess in a few months, we all will.

By R. Stroz

March 8, 2008 9:35 AM | Link to this

ranallo10 - I understand this:

The price was too steep” meant he wasn’t willing to make ANOTHER Zhitnik move. Buffalo wanted Pavelec AND a first round pick, he didn’t feel it was worth it for a player who obviously wants to test Free Agency.

My concern is that we hear this same line in the summer as an excuse for not procuring any top tier defensemen in the free agent market.

That’s why I’m waiting until after July 1 to decide whether to renew my ticket package. In other words, I don’t trust the owners/GM to follow thru with their statements until the rubber meets the road..

By David

March 8, 2008 9:39 AM | Link to this

David here is a pretty good link about the lawsuit The gist of it was that the Hawks made a trade for Joe Johnson that owner Steve Belkin objected too. He was then kicked out of the group and he took it to court. A Maryland judge ruled that Belkin had the right to buy out his partners and they are currently challenging the ruling. The current impasse is going on a year and a half I think.

does that mean that the Thrashers going to be for sale or not? and also it does that mean that the basketball team going to be for sale?

By ToF

March 8, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this

David It means neither. The owners have the right to sell after the lawsuit is settled. If ASG wins, they will need everyone to sell their shares (I’m pretty sure) in order to meet league approval. On the other hand, I find it hard to believe Belkin (if he wins) would turn around and sell something he spent two years acquiring.
It would be sweet if they sold to a single local guy/family.

By David

March 8, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this

I am very interested in buying the hockey team.

By David

March 8, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this

I have a source on a hockey team’s website and she told me that it’s in the rumor process.

About the hockey team being for sale soon.

By Rawhide

March 8, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this

j nes - Thanks for the input…and great question to open things up with.

Ranallo - Great link. From what has been posted here and what is in that write up, it sure sounds like Levenson came off un-good…and, to that point, Don came off a lot better. It at least sounds as if he was concerned with the situation and sensitive to the STH ire.

Kracker & Archie - Great post and comments regarding Chicago…do me a favor and stick that in your files. Let’s discuss this more in depth just after the season as to give it 100% attention and discussion.

DowntownATL - A weekend game with 6,000 people in the stands begging to learn hockey and become Thrashers fans. I saw them tonight, I talked to them tonight, I high fived them tonight. If my full season ticket dollar is being used to subsidize the newbies; so be it. - Well, if this was the goal in regards to the discount ticket pricing, then one would have to consider it a success…and thanks for posting your comments about classy Minnesota fans, (Eileen as well)…I’m sure those same classy fans are saying much the same of the Blueland population.

By Barry

March 8, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this

No the Thrashers won’t make the playoffs this year but I don’t want them to tank either. I want them to pull together as a team and do all they can to win every game. They need to at least work on overcoming all this adversity this year and go out on a very positive note and have something to build on for next year you know?

By Nikita

March 8, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this

They talked to Dupuis the week before the deadline and apparently Dupuis has “dulisions of grandur” (my words for thinks he is a top 6 player) that is why he moved.

Yeah. No joke. His interviews just prior to that made it pretty clear that he thought he was worth more than he is. And what exactly is the worth of a fast-skating, chance-making, non-scoring, 2nd-line-but-thinks-he’s 1st winger? Arguably less than a fast-skating, 2nd-line-and-glad-to-be-in-the-big-leagues, team-playing, scoring-as-much-as-the-other-guy winger. At least for Atlanta. My husband and I argued nonstop about Dupuis until he got traded, because it was my position that Dupuis needed one-on-one work to work on his hands of stone and my husband’s contention that that isn’t the role of team practices. But I can’t say I’m sorry to see him go, especially if it was Perrin vs. Dupuis. Perrin has been very consistent this season. He plays to his abilities (which are 2nd line, center or wing), sets up his teammates for success, and hustles. Every single game.

Can someone tell me what happened with the final game misconduct? Unfortunately I only saw highlights.

Also, I keep hearing that the team has given up, but I don’t see that when I actually watch the team. The Carolina game was a pretty low point — both of the goalies looked spiritually spent, and some members of the team were playing with less dedication than I would have liked to have seen. But…I don’t think that’s at all true overall.

By Rawhide

March 8, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this

Nikita - on Minnesota’s goal in the third, Moose felt he was interfered with by a Wild player in the blue paint. He was obviously screened but replay showed the player just had a good position.

Moose blasted the official…and thus got a 10 minute misconduct.

To Moose’s credit, after the OT period, he sought the official out and made nice with him. I think he just lost his cool after playing so darn well, but it seemed as though that goal was going to be the one to beat us.

By Nikita

March 8, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

Thanks for the fill-in, Rawhide. Why is Slater listed on some of the recaps as having the misconduct? Did he serve it for Hedberg?

By Rawhide

March 8, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this

Yes, I believe that is the case.

By raindawg722

March 8, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this

Nikita, Slater served the penalty because he hadn’t been in the box for almost two and half periods and he was experiencing withdrawal symptoms.

I kid. He was serving it for Hedberg. I love Slater’s hustle but the man can draw a penalty.

By jen

March 8, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this

Sorry, but if what was said was true, renting Brian Campbell for 2 months when the playoffs were NEVER a guarantee would not in a million years have been worth Pavs and a 1st in THIS draft (or next years for that matter). No issues on not pulling the trigger there. I also believe there was some validity to what DW said about Dmen just not being available this year. Maybe we could have gotten a Bryce Salvador type, but to what extent would that have helped long term? And do you really want to give up on a Sterling or similar prospect (which is what it would have cost) when we’ve all seen how the Coburn thing played out.

Having seen all the write ups on Chicago, I am more convinced this is the root of the issue. I can recall getting really excited that they were doing so well thinking that it would lead to more success for the Thrashers, but clearly, the independant agenda is not what we need at this point. While I am not opposed to JA taking over as head coach, we need a better flow of communication between those who develop the prospects and those who need the prospects to fill holes on the big club. It grieves me to see players like DiPenta, Foster, Coburn, etc. playing key roles on other clubs because they had staff to identify talents and plug them into a system that made the most out of them, as opposed to just calling them up and expecing results when obviously one hand is not shaking the other in this case.

By David

March 8, 2008 4:12 PM | Link to this

I am guaranteeing that the NHL team will be for sale soon..

By Sage of Bluesland

March 8, 2008 4:33 PM | Link to this

I found the comment about Donny and his future “book” to be hilarious…

Umm, Don, nobody buys a book written by a complete LOSER…I don’t care how “committed” he has been to the franchise which has made him a wealthy man, a LOSER is a LOSER every time…

Hmmm, now that the LOSER is blustering about writing a book (which will likely prove false as with many of his other empty promises), I’m going to send him some suggestions for book titles…Submitted for your approval:

“How I turned an entire city against a major sport…”

“How to stretch a ‘Five-Year Plan’ into one lasting ten years…”

“How to bluster your way to acceptance by the ignorant…”

“I’m here to tell ya—P.T. Barnum was RIGHT!…”

or, how about this,

“The Sheep-Whisperer…”

(Silly little sheep!)

By Tony C.

March 8, 2008 4:34 PM | Link to this

Maybe so, David-but they ain’t moving.

They are talking about expanding the league, and I don’t think they’ll be able to charge the premium price for the expansion franchises that the board of govenors would like to charge if they have franchises moving just 10 years after inception.

By Brendan

March 8, 2008 5:12 PM | Link to this

The Sheep-Whisperer. I spewed forth my Coke Zero, just missing the monitor. You B@$t@rd! I would have made you replace it, ya know? That was hilarious, Sage.

Andrew Brunette has just gotten a goal and an assist for Colorado, which came into the 3rd period trailing, 1-0. Thanks to Brunette, who has the go-ahead goal, they lead, 2-1. Our organization saw no value in Brunette, whose thrilling Overtime goal at 3:25 in Game Seven of the 2003 playoffs propelled the Wild over Colorado, and retired the great Patrick Roy from the active ranks of the NHL.

Bygones.

By Sage of Bluesland

March 8, 2008 5:33 PM | Link to this

Thank you, Thank you…Be sure to tip your waitress generously…(Sage takes a bow)

Brendan, if you read the various transcripts of the much ballyhooed “Townhall Meeting”, you’ll quickly note how ridiculous it was.

Whoever doesn’t think that some of the “questions” (and I use that word quite loosely) weren’t prepared by someone involved with the organization, well, then you’re an even bigger sheep than I ever imagined in my wildest dreams…

Then, in typical sheep-like fashion, emotion creeps into the discussion (i.e. “Poor Don looks haggard”, etc. ad nauseam)

Don has run this franchise into the ground…the product on the ice is pitiful.

Sage predicted that some of the mindless lambs would be handed questions to ask—to which they would oblige. Check!

Sage also predicted that the furor of the previous game (where fraudulent Don, who is pulling out all the stops to save his pathetic hide) would be mentioned, to the delight of all the lambchops in attendance. Check!

The owner in attendance, apparently, called a STH a less-than-flattering name…Weirdly enough, this actually makes Don look ‘good’ in comparison. Wow.

This organization, from the very top (ownership) to the mid-level (GM) no longer deserve any support from fans. Insult after insult have been shoveled us—and some still subsidize the utter incompetence or outright arrogance.

THAT is what is just as sad, if you think about it…Well, almost as sad as our bumbling Donny’s latest bluster about writing a book!

(p.s.—I’m looking for more of Donny’s prospective book titles…”How to turn ten years of prime drafting position into the oldest team in the league”…”Never let accountability and the facts get in the way of your financial freedom”…”The bigger the spin, the more they’ll believe it!”…)

By I really want to believe in Blueland

March 8, 2008 5:34 PM | Link to this

I am as frustrated as everyone and agree with some people who have made similar comments; this summer is quite possibly the most crucial time of the franchise. They sound like they know what they need, they now have the assets and cap room to make major moves. Lets see if they can actually do it right.

I love the pick up of Armstrong and Christianson, they are just what this team needs, more team guys, heart guys, lockeroom and on-ice leader guys and i think they will thrive with their opportunity here. Atlanta needs to develop an identity and they need to become a team that nobody wants to play. They just need to become tougher to place against. You want teams to dread playing them. Doesn’t always include fighting but definately could use more of it. Intimidation is an excellant tool if used correctly.

Coming to play the Thrashers now is almost a vacation for teams. Don’t really have to work hard to beat them, they don’t fight back. (Notice Minnesota didn’t even dress their tougher guys, Boogard, Simon). Thats sad that they give them the night off when they play Atlanta. Just shows what other teams think about playing the Thrash, not too worried about it, easy game. Maybe not an easy “win” all the time but definately an easy game, won’t be hit, spend most of the time in their offensive zone.

Need to change that mindset, the Thrashers need to become tougher to play against. Both offense and defense alike. Thats why I am really anticipating seeing Valabik make his debut. I have heard his skating and offense may be suspect but also heard that he may be the meanest toughest euro to ever come overseas and play in North America. Can’t wait to see for myself, he may be a big piece of what this team needs. A tough defenseman, especially since XLB has decided he wants to be a “puck moving specialist” i guess and glued his gloves on.

Lets hope the transition began with Armstrong and continues with Valabik and then continues over the coming months.

By PJ

March 8, 2008 5:55 PM | Link to this

Rawhide I still want my team to win and work harder at being a better team. I can’t, I won’t wish for them to tank. It’s just not in me.

Amens please…….

Bow your heads, Hands joined on the keyboards

Oh Heavenly Father, Thank you for listening to our prayers and for the many blessings you have given this team. Please continue to heal the Thrashers and show them that hard work has it’s own reward. Last night, the Thrashers challenged themselves and showed pride in their team. Please guide the Thrashers tonight as they still need to work harder to take possession and control of the puck, be in position, take more shots and build a defensive stronghold. Please spike their adrenaline tonight and keep their momentun going to kick the Panther’s A$$!! AMEN!!

LET’S GO THRASHERS

By Tony H

March 8, 2008 6:19 PM | Link to this

PJ - Excellent prayer!! AMEN

By Rawhide

March 8, 2008 6:19 PM | Link to this

A-FREAKIN’-MEN!!! Thanks PJ!! One of your better ones.

God it sure would be nice for this team to win both games of a back-to-backer for only the second time this season!!!

Sage - “Sheep-Whisperer”….OK, that was funny.

By The Other Bob

March 8, 2008 6:44 PM | Link to this

I just can’t figure Sage out….but I have it narrowed down to 3 things. Sage is either:

  1. A disgruntled former employee of his.

  2. Don’s ex-wife or former lover…and he/she didn’t take the break-up very well. Or…

  3. At a very young age, Sage was attacked from behind bay a gang of rams who were in “season”. And it’s obviously left some serious mental scarring.

By Thrasher Ryan

March 8, 2008 8:12 PM | Link to this

Amen PJ!

It’s 2-1 Thrashers with 13:30 left in the 2nd. Goals by Bryan Little and Captain Kovalchuk.

GO BLUE!!!

By Thrasher Ryan

March 8, 2008 8:47 PM | Link to this

It’s 2-2 after 2!

Gotta win in regulation tonight boys! CANNOT give out bonus points to the Panturds! You must take 2 points each time you play your SE foes from here on out!

GO BLUE!!!

Just stated reading the posts above also.

By Thrasher Ryan

March 8, 2008 8:58 PM | Link to this

started Sorry.

By PJ

March 8, 2008 9:05 PM | Link to this

GO THRASHERS!! WE NEED A REGULATION WIN TONIGHT!!!

By Thrasher Ryan

March 8, 2008 9:13 PM | Link to this

FLA TV broadcast is all over the Thrashers! Just reminded us how much we miss Hossa vs. Panthers with a full screen graphic of Hossa’s stats vs. Panthers while with Thrashers.

Now they just reminded us that the Thrashers are -43 in 5 on 5 play this year.

Shut up losers.

GO BLUE!!!

By Brendan

March 8, 2008 9:17 PM | Link to this

6:00 left in the 3rd period. Atlanta has been on a perpetual PP with no results. Lehtonen really had to stop the second goal, with his pad against the post. The pressure is squarely on Atlanta to win in regulation time.

By Thrasher Ryan

March 8, 2008 9:26 PM | Link to this

3:00 left in 3rd! You gotta do it boys! Don’t come crying to me when the Panthers finish ahead of you in the standings! You cannot give them a bonus point!

GO BLUE!!!

By Thrasher Ryan

March 8, 2008 9:33 PM | Link to this

Son of a b!%#&!!!

Going to OT!

GO BLUE!!!

By Brendan

March 8, 2008 9:37 PM | Link to this

Penalty against Thrashers in the OT. Florida has dominated the last 12 minutes of this game. Ungood. Of course, winning fixes everything.

By Brendan

March 8, 2008 9:40 PM | Link to this

Nathan Horton wins it for Florida.

By Brendan

March 8, 2008 9:49 PM | Link to this

Carolina just beat Buffalo in overtime, 4-3. But the Capitals lost to the Bruins, 2-1, earlier today. Tampa Bay is idle. And if you’re eyeing the last place team, the Los Angeles Kings lost, 5-2, to Montreal this afternoon.

Folks, Atlanta led Florida, 2-0. Squandering leads like this has typified the whole season. Now, we’re out of the playoff picture anyway, so this game wasn’t relevant. But it’s a good indicator of what needs to be fixed. This team doesn’t have, and never did, any “killer instinct.” The Thrashers had to chance to get up 3-0, and 4-0, in this game. They got lulled to sleep. They let Florida “hang around” and in the end, what should have been a four-point swing turned into a two-point net gain for Florida. The Panthers get two-points for the win, while denying Atlanta a point.

By Thrasher Ryan

March 8, 2008 9:55 PM | Link to this

Florida 3, Atlanta 2, OT.

KL got fooled by Horton. Good game otherwise for KL.

I would think the margin for error is very slim right now, for the playoff hopes. I think we must win them all except for 1, maybe?

We play some Western conference teams next week, bonus points are technically allowed. I just think it really sucks the Thrash haven’t won a game in Regulation since the game At Washington way back when! WTF!

By Brendan

March 8, 2008 10:05 PM | Link to this

ThrasherRyan, the playoffs are over. They’ve been over for quite a while. Right now, it’s about determining who should stay and who should go. Speaking of which, I heard Mark Recchi interviewed on the Panthers telecast and he still spoke “optimistically” about returning to Atlanta next season.

That is surprizing. I would think Mark wants to win a Cup. But, maybe, just playing on Kovalchuk’s line is enough for him, at this point. I know, he’s 40, and all. But Atlanta would be fortunate to have him return, provided that the organization doesn’t overpay or overcommit years on the contract.

By stendec

March 8, 2008 10:16 PM | Link to this

Good old Letemin. What a pile of Finnish crapola! Moose shows fire and grit to get two points. Letemin looks like prima donna with lead then folds up like cheap toilet paper in shootout! What an oxygen waste. GO FLAMES!

By Rawhide

March 8, 2008 10:21 PM | Link to this

quietly enters room…walks over to ThrasherRyan….places hand on his shoulder. Leading him to a chair, sitting him down and pulls up a chair for himself. Others gather around…Brendan, PJ, Alan, Bob, TonyH…and a handful of others. The mood is somber and quiet. The intervention has started.

ThrasherRyan, my friend, we have to talk…it’s over…been over. Done. The playoffs aren’t going to happen for us this season.

PJ hands him a glass of water

Here…drink this. Good. See, we all care about you…and we just want you to know we are all here to support you, help you through this. It’s tough for us all.

But you just gotta understand…there will no more using, well, the “P” word. OK?

Good…

By Tony C.

March 8, 2008 10:47 PM | Link to this

Howabout a “we want Doughty” chant at the next game?

I know lotsa yall’re partial to “Fi-re Don-ny”….but let’s be more realistic.

Who would want to walk into this mess?

If you think say, Quinn, or another GM candidate with “cred” would take the job for any reasons outside of the golf and the weather, I’d love to hear them.

By Thrasher Ryan

March 8, 2008 10:58 PM | Link to this

Brendan—I know, my friend. Some people still “believe” though, you know. At this point, I’m just looking for some pride from the team. At least play like you mean it. They are starting to do that more.

“Sheep Whisperer” is NICE! SO TRUE! Laughed my a$$ off!

Guys, I didn’t really find a lot of answers to my questions in the meeting transcripts. But then again, I don’t see where very many tough questions were asked.

As for the Pavelec to Buffalo Rumour put forth by the “Gang”, I question that. Waddell would HAVE TO KNOW that trading Pavelec was NOT an option! Do you guys buy that? If Waddell seriously considered trading Pavelec, that is NOT GOOD! Who else do we have behind Pavelec? NO ONE!

I would trade Moose or KL before I trade Pavelec! Waddell can’t be that dumb can he?

The best time to sign Campbell is this summer anyways. We have good money to spend, and we have “publicly stated who we are targeting” in Campbell. Right?

Or like R. Stroz said, when I see action, and not just words, I will believe everything I just read.

I hope we bring in Anderson. And a new GM.

New GM should start by signing Kovalchuk to 10 year deal.

By Thrasher Ryan

March 8, 2008 11:09 PM | Link to this

Guys, playoffs are out, we know. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Operation Stamkos is on. I know.

I just wanna know if Waddell is out on April 6, 2008.

It is what it is. Enough is enough.

What’s that word I’m looking for? Oh yeah, ACCOUNTABILITY! Time for accountability, not Sheepish anecdotes.

Pat Quinn is my choice.

By Rawhide

March 8, 2008 11:27 PM | Link to this

ThrasherRyan - April 6 is a Sunday…at least wait for the first day of the workweek and the first day after the NHL season is over :o)

As for “accountability”…it’s something we have been chatting about since the first weeks of the season.

By LAC

March 9, 2008 6:33 AM | Link to this

Wow Sage, RIGHT YET AGAIN !!!!!!!!!!

Bet you’d shoot a Hole in one EVERY hole at The Masters !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Every comment you make is nothing but the Truth. The Truth these WORTHLESS p*** owners cannot tell!!!

It is counter to all logic how these Idiots continue to provide a BAD product, Spit in the FANS faces with price increases and talk from Mr Potty Mouth himself bruce “The Little B***” levenson !!!

And think of it everyone… Here we are 10 years after the team arrived, we should be talking about a SERIOUS Stanley Cup run, OUR Great Players and what a Great Fan Base we have… But what are we talking about, LOSING, DUMB GM, and Idiot Liars for owners, Just makes me sick.

I would like a request Rawhide…

Get levenson at a carwash so we can ALL wash his POTTY MOUTH out with Soap, the fans of this town deserve the chance to KICK HIS A$$ !!!!!!

Thanks Sage, You truly Tell It Like It IS !!!!!!!!!!

By PJ

March 9, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this

ThrasherRyan I missed the intervention, sorry - I turned off my computer in disgust. I have always appreciated your enthusiasm and that you represent a true fan, one who continues to cheer for your team dispite their performance or play off contention. We All air our grievances on the blog. I think of the Thrashers like one of my kids, I don’t stop supporting them when their team is losing, they get a bad grade or perform poorly. In fact, it is at these times they need our support that much more.

At this point, I would like for them to figure out who is getting re-signed, purge the negativity from the team, see who has the best chemistry with whom and so on. I want them to hold their heads up high and do their best for the remainder of the season.(Yes, Mom) Is that too much to ask? I don’t thing so.

As for Brian Campbell, is there a reason why San Jose won’t offer him a reasonable deal? Is there a reason why he wouldn’t take it? The cost of living is high in SJ but I think he will be able to afford it. That said, Yea, he’d be my first choice too.

By Brendan

March 9, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this

PJ, that’s an interesting point about Brian Campbell. What WILL he do? Campbell has always said that he wanted to stay in Buffalo. How much of that was “P.R.” and how much of it was truth, is anyone’s guess. But, let’s just say, for the “sake of arguement,” that it’s true. Couldn’t Buffalo, at this point, just pony up the dough, 6-years / $36 million, and in so doing get Steve Bernier, SJ’s 1st round pick, and Brian Campbell, all signed, sealed and delivered?

Then again, perhaps Brian Campbell is “done” with Buffalo. And, at this point, San Jose, like it or not, is a bit “vested” in Campbell, since it coughed up a draft pick for him. That’s a steep price for a “rental.” Campbell very well may re-sign with San Jose. But he’ll make ‘em wait, and sweat it out, until July 1st.

By PJ

March 9, 2008 3:58 PM | Link to this

Brendan, I remember reading a few months back an article about the arenas most liked and disliked by the players. Surprisingly, Buffalo was rated LEAST favorite. I immediately stored that tidbit thinking that I hope BC was included in those voting against Buffalo. His next contract will be a multi-year deal and will probably dictate where he spends his prime years in Hockey. He’s going to want to pick a nice place to raise a family. Atlanta offers that but so does San Jose. Do we know anything about his agent?

By David

March 10, 2008 8:07 AM | Link to this

I’m planning to come down to a game very soon.

 

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