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By The Other Bob

February 25, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this

Rawhide - Thank you…I’m attempting to dig up the “titillating” stories…so I’ve taken up my reporting post here in the middle of the Cheetah…I’m anticipating a lot of big items coming my way today!

Question…can I expense the fist full of fives back to Rawhide Hockey Central?

By JayBird

February 25, 2008 9:37 AM | Link to this

Keeping Hossa with the intent to make the playoffs would be a major mistake. We all know we the Thrashers have no chance of winning the Stanley Cup more less a series. So Waddell would be keeping Hossa to finish 2nd-4th in a crappy division and then get nothing in return when Hossa leaves in the summer. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out Hossa does not want to be here. There is NO chance he will resign here in the summer. We have to move on. Hossa’s value should be through the roof and Waddell needs to capitalize on that.

The next 30 hours will shape the franchise for the next 5-10 years. Either we build toward to future by trading Hossa or we begin a major downward spiral towards expansion quality hockey. For people with dillusions of grandeur in the free agent market, wake up. No big name free agents will ever sign here unless we ridiculously overpay them. We have to trade for young talent that we can keep for a few years and picks that can be used for quality prospects. With that said, we need a new GM, one that can use these picks to find NHL quality players.

By thrashyou

February 25, 2008 9:40 AM | Link to this

I hope Hossa is traded for good young players. Reported by the Boston Glode today that kessel is off the table so I think boston is out. I think it is between Montreal and Detroit. I want to see Hossa, Holik, Hedburg, And Havild moved for some youth, size, and speed. Bring up the boys from Chicago, They might even want it more, they can’t do any worse!

By Long Suffering

February 25, 2008 9:42 AM | Link to this

JayBird, I think you’ve summed everything except on one point. I don’t believe the Thashers now have a chance to make the playoffs. They don’t even seem to be playing for pride.

By Tom

February 25, 2008 9:44 AM | Link to this

JayBird

We all know that keeping Hossa will be a mistake but Bill has figured it out. Right now the biggest question is Waddell, not Hossa.

If Waddell puts his interests ahead of the long term team, Hossa stays.

If Waddell puts the team ahead of himself, Hossa goes.

This is a character test for Don. If I owned the Spirit and he did not trade Hossa in the next day, I would fire him on the spot.

Odds are Waddell would be an untouchable in the league from then on.

By Bob

February 25, 2008 9:45 AM | Link to this

0 chance they keep Hoss, Rawhide.

I think to play on your scenario, the only move Don might make in a last ditch effort to save his job is to trade Hoss for more “ready now” players that could help propel them into the playoffs, or to take the young players/picks he gets for Hoss and turn them around in a trade to other teams to bring in some more old crusty vets to try to get in the playoffs. But that would be foolhardy, this club has little chance of making the playoffs.

By B. Thenet

February 25, 2008 9:50 AM | Link to this

The only real question is if we stop at Hossa, or does the recent 3 game slide, accompanied by Carolina’s hot streak, mean that they clean house with guys like Holik, Recchi, Dupuis,(all 3 UFAs) and Zhitnik.

Hossa is a goner, probably before most of us leave work today.

By JayBird

February 25, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

I meant to put in my post that the Thrashers will not make the playoffs even with Hossa.

What drives me nuts about this team is the lack of puck handling especially on the power play. How many other teams have to dump the puck in on the power play instead of skating it in and setting up? We lose so much time chasing the puck and a lot of the time, we never even gain possession. A trade for some puck handlers would be great!

By LL

February 25, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

thrashyou

Havelid is a +7 player for our team and averages at least 1 save per game. Why would you want to give up a defensemen of his caliber?

By JD

February 25, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

Shouldn’t you be working Bill? AIZ doesn’t pay you to blog! :)

I sure hope he cleans house. I was in Carolina “on business”, but “happen” to catch the game on Thurs. What a mess! I thought DW was going to build through the draft, get a few FA here and there. How many young players on this team excite you? Kovy…. and….and…. Toby…. and….and… maybe Kari (at times). How much worse would we be if Ondrej, Little, Sterling, Stuart, and Lavallee, Oystrick, and Valabik were playing every day? hmmm.. we probably would be just outside of the playoffs. But in the mean time, get some quality NHL time for the youngsters.

I am so freaking frustrated with DW. So he’ll have lots of Cap space next year… so freaking what! As The Falconer pointed out in her blog this weekend, DW’s UFA signings in the past 3 years have been p**. I don’t trust him picking out practice pucks for Duluth, let alone picking free agents.

As far as trades go… He needs draft picks, so the next GM will have a chance to rebuild (or just build, since I think you have to be built once to be rebuilt) He needs young players ready to contribute (Kessel, Carle, or Flippwhatever from Detroit). Finally he needs to get rid of any and all impending UFA and get as much as you can.. yes even Moose. (see Ondrej). Holik bye bye. Hossa, well we know he’s gone. Recchi done. And please just release #77 (his play has been so bad I can’t even print his name). We respect the NHL too much to allow any return from a trade for #77.

On that note… I bid farewell. Back to tsn.ca, hockeybuzz, and spectorshockey…. Say hi to the Aiz crew.

By what the puck

February 25, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this

I hate to see hossa go but since the team seems to be going south i guess it is for the best. This team is not going anywhere and it looks as if they will always be just a 500 team nothing more.

By La Dame

February 25, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this

Messr. Rawhide I have informacion pour vous!! I am walking down ze street to arrive at l’hotel to speak with ze Marian Hossa (ooo he is such a hansome boy, no?). Alors, I glance in ze window of a hockey boutique, when I see ze man himself! I slip in to ze store and see a most interesting scene. Ze Marian, he is in front of the mirror holding up zis jersey et zat jersey. First is ze rouge et blanc for ze Red Wings (Mon Dieu I shudder to imagine). Alors, he holds up ze teal et blanc pour les grands poissons (hee hee you like ma petit plaisanterie?). Eh bien, ze Marian now holds ze beloved bleu, blanc, et rouge pour mes Habitants! C’est tres bien – magnifique!

Mais, who is zis funny man with ze Marian? Oooh, it ees ze Don, no? How pitiful he ees. Holding ze bleu-clair des Thrashers, ze tears are in his eyes. “Please, Marian,” he says. “Are you sure you won’t reconsider??” Oh, to see such dramatics from a grown man. Ze Marian, how annoyed he looks. But he turns to ze Don pityingly. “Don, we have talked about this,” says ze Marian as he pats ze Don on ze head. “I just can’t “Believe in Blueland” when the money is not all spent.” “But, it’s not my fault, Marian,” snivels ze Don. “I’ve begged and groveled for more money, but they won’t let me have any. I mean, you don’t really think I wanted to coach all year long. I’ve never had to work so hard in my life – it’s been awful.” Ze Marian, he sighs, and looks back to ze bleu, blanc, et rouge. “This is not my fault either Don. I am sorry but my answer is still no.” Ze Don, he clutches ze jersey to his chest and looks down to ze floor. After a moment during which ze Marian (et moi) admire his reflection in ze mirror, ze Don looks up, lip quivering, and so softly I can barely hear (and darling you know what good ears I have), he says “Please take me with you. I can not do this anymore, can not bear it anymore. First it was Time Warner and their $28 million dollar budgets when Detroit and New York spent three and four times that. Now it is these idiots who can’t even agree on what kind of toilet paper to stock in the executive bathroom and their $6 million under the cap budget. I tried so hard for you and Kovy – I already had the meetings all set up for Drury and Gomez. But then the morons, they tell me I can’t have any more money for this year so I better start looking for someone else. God forgive me, Todd was the best I could do. I mean, he’s a nice guy and all, but he’s no top center.” Ze Don pauses to shake his head. “Now I look like a buffoon to everyone and none of it is my fault. Marian, you can’t leave me like this. I’m begging. We can even take Kovy. You’d like that, wouldn’t you? The three of us, embarking on a new adventure together! Why, it’ll be great. We could come here – you like it here right? We’ll take French lessons together, we’ll…” Ze Marian holds up ze hand (oooo, look at those big hands…ooh la la). “Don, it’s over. You just have to accept it and move on. Now, about your trading strategy,” he says, as he links his arm with ze Don and zey exit ze store. “I realize there is a lot to consider, but I really think this Canadiens jersey favors my coloring well. Certainly better than that baby blue – god how happy I am to never put that crap on again. The teal isn’t doing it for me either, although the sunshine in California is nice – could work on my tan, scout all the hot babes. Not as much media attention – these vultures are driving me nuts. But hey – I can worry about that this summer, right Donnie boy.”

Alors, ze Marian gets into l’auto and zey are gone! But certainly what I heard should interest you and your little friends, no? If I know more, I will be sure to contact you.

Au revoir, mon amie!

By drew

February 25, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this

Note to LaDame:

FROG P—-Y!!!!

By drew

February 25, 2008 10:23 AM | Link to this

Note to LaDame:

FROG P—-Y!!!!

By Thrasher Ryan

February 25, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this

WADDELL—Do NOT deal with Montreal unless they give up Komisarek! No other deal with them is worth it!

Nikita—You had 2 players on your list I forgot on mine. Recchi and Lehtonen. I’m sorry, it was an oversight, and hopefully they aren’t pi$$ed at me!

Come on Waddell, TEAM FIRST! Dump the AARP members please, the new NHL is about youth, speed, and size.

By La Dame

February 25, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this

Americans! You have no sense of humor. I could smack you in ze head with ze sarcasm and still you would be stupid. No wonder you have ze Don for a General Manager.

By THRSHYOU

February 25, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this

LL

I want to give up havild because he could return some top notch prospects. I just want zhithead gone, I would take a draft pick for him.I dont see this team in the playoffs this year , and with the current situation, next year either. ASG needs to raise their salary cap so we can compete in the open market.

By what the puck

February 25, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this

The atlanta spirit has done it again! they have messed up another team that could have been great. All they needed to do was unclam the budget and we could have made it to the play offs.It would also help if they would take out the trash because wew have some players that really stink. They messed up the hawks and now the thrashers. The executive management needs to go they are all a bunch of morons. They can take holik and zhitnik with them oh and sharmin as well. Oh yeah and i have got a saying holik your not worth a puck!

By R. Stroz

February 25, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this

Tick, Tock, Tick, Tock,

Time is rolling of the clock

La Dame - I thought was pretty funny.

By what the puck

February 25, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this

The atlanta spirit has done it again! they have messed up another team that could have been great. All they needed to do was unclam the budget and we could have made it to the play offs.It would also help if they would take out the trash because wew have some players that really stink. They messed up the hawks and now the thrashers. The executive management needs to go they are all a bunch of morons. They can take holik and zhitnik with them oh and sharmin as well. Oh yeah and i have got a saying holik your not worth a puck!

By Alan

February 25, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this

As much as I love it, I hope this Hossa thing is taken care of soon. Hossa might not be a distraction to the team, but it sure is a distraction for me getting my work done!

By R. Stroz

February 25, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this

What the Puck - Boy, why aren’t you in class.

By what the puck

February 25, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this

im in public safety which is a goof off class thats why

By NASCAR Dave

February 25, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this

GETTING TIRED OF PEOPLE TRYING TO BLAME THE SPIRIT!

People, please understand the situation before you vent!

THIS IS NOT THE SPIRIT’S FAULT!

WADDELL signed these players. This is HIS doing!!!

IF YOU WANNA BE ANGRY AT SOMEONE, BE ANGRY AT WADDELL, NOT THE SPIRIT!

By R. Stroz

February 25, 2008 11:52 AM | Link to this

NASCAR Dave - I blame both the Atlanta Spirit and Waddell. Neither have served their fans well.

By NASCAR Dave

February 25, 2008 12:10 PM | Link to this

STROZ True. But, there are 2 different situations going on. I am talking about these people that blame this roster and the team’s lackluster performance on the Spirit!

THAT IS ABSURD!

It is BAD coaching, BAD conditioning, and that is WADDELL’S fault!

It is BAD drafting, and BAD transactions, and that is WADDELL’S fault!

NOW, the way the Spirit is handling their Season Ticket Holders, that is a whole other story in itself…. and I agree with you on that. It is quite petty, IMO.

By Nikita

February 25, 2008 12:19 PM | Link to this

I’ve done some thinking about a few players, and boned up on the waiver rules. So here’s what I think…

Anyone who wants to get rid of Recchi is smoking crack. He’s practically free, and he’s one hell of a contributor. I think that due to his age and his previous slump that we should not sign him to any long-term agreement, but he is a valuable presence and is doing a great job, both numerically and in terms of providing the correct attitude.

Havelid is technically our #2 D-Man, and aside from the flu has been pretty solid. I don’t think we should trade him unless the deal in return is worth it.

Zhitnik needs to be sent down if he isn’t gone by tomorrow. If we’re lucky someone will think he’s worth picking up on re-entry waivers — ‘cause he’s definitely not worth what we paid for him. And if not then at least he can experience the consequences of his choices in not bothering to show up this season. Besides which, unless we can get equal value, we’ll be done with him at the end of the year. And it would suck to be saddled with inferior product at premium price.

Which brings me to the general subject of long-term contracts…bad idea. 2-4 years max, no matter who or how awesome. Because any contract can turn into a Rucchin situation or a Zhitnik situation — and it’s a great consolation to me that we will be free of both this summer.

And yes, the Atlanta Spirit is partially to blame. They don’t hold the coaching staff accountable, and they’ve chosen to underinvest.

By Alan

February 25, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this

Because any contract can turn into a Rucchin situation or a Zhitnik situation — and it’s a great consolation to me that we will be free of both this summer.

If we don’t move Zhitnik, he’s done here next summer.

By Brendan

February 25, 2008 12:28 PM | Link to this

How would you feel if the Atlanta Spirit Group fired Don Waddell and hired Hockey Analyst/Commentator Darren Eliot to be the GM? He knows the league inside and out, as he covers games on Versus and on Fox Sports South. It’s his job to be on top of every team’s situation. He is Cornel-educated, and often writes columns on the financial aspects of team budgets and player salaries.

I’m just asking …. Eliot wouldn’t do worse than Waddell. But, I’m sure we’d all want a seasoned GM, preferably a “big name” at that.

By Brendan

February 25, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this

How would you feel if the Atlanta Spirit Group fired Don Waddell and hired Hockey Analyst/Commentator Darren Eliot to be the GM? He knows the league inside and out, as he covers games on Versus and on Fox Sports South. It’s his job to be on top of every team’s situation. He is Cornel-educated, and often writes columns on the financial aspects of team budgets and player salaries.

I’m just asking …. Eliot wouldn’t do worse than Waddell. But, I’m sure we’d all want a seasoned GM, preferably a “big name” at that.

By Red Light

February 25, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this

The only bright light in this mismanaged, bungling franchise is that at least Waddell has seen the light in terms of not extending long-term extensions, except to Kovy, Kozzie and White. Of course, the Zhitnik assumption is one he must be kicking himself over, and the Exelby extension is a haunting proposition too. In my opinion, he needs to discuss a long-term extension with Enstrom but I now have my doubts about whether or not Lehtonen will re-up. Some GM may try to pull a Kevin Lowe and sign him, as I think they realize what he’s up against here.

If the trade comes down, and Waddell accepts anyone over the age of 27 in return for Hossa, I think it will confirm what nearly everyone here thinks: you can’t spell “DOWNER” without DW.

By B. Thenet

February 25, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this

After listening to Elliot on the TV for a while, I wouldn’t want him anywhere close to a talent analysis type position. Some of the comments he makes during games really leave me scratching my head.

By Jim

February 25, 2008 12:55 PM | Link to this

Hossa told the Toronto press that HE IS MOVING ON TO A WINNING SITUATION. HE IS NOT GOING TO RESIGN WITH US. If DW keeps him the vain hope of trying to make the playoffs and save his job, I will lose total respect for him. He’s a good, knowledgeable hockey guy who has simply not put together a “winning situation”. Trade Hoss and replace Don at the end of the season.

By Bob

February 25, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this

Eliot wouldn’t do worse than Waddell

This is probably true, I don’t think anyone could do worse (my grandma could’ve made the no brainer Kovy, Heatley picks).

But Eliot? No way. We are at a big turning point here for the franchise, this is when we can finally get a real GM in here at the end of this year to get this thing rolling.

By MashaPlayer 7

February 25, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this

What a great point by Tom. The big question surrounds Waddell. Does he make the wrong moves to save his job here? If he gets fired, then he’ll be thought of as a him-first kind of guy and never get another prominent NHL job. If he does the right thing, he may get fired, but will be looked at in the NHL as someone who did what was right for the team (e.g. getting young player, picks and not make the playoffs this year).

By Nikita

February 25, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this

What? Next summer? I’m going to go cry now…but I still think sending him down is the right thing to do. And he can be brought up if he decides he wants to play in the major leagues, assuming some other club doesn’t make the stupid decision to pick him up.

By Rawhide

February 25, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this

JayBird & RedLight…and anyone else who commented as such.

I certainly agree that the Waddell “Hail Mary” that I describe would be an AWFUL idea. Like I said,…Hossa is gone (DUH5). Tom just about figured out my meaning to it…is he thinking for the team or himself right now? We’ll see. I do believe he’ll do the right thing and trade for the best value he can.

Other Bob - NO…no expensing!

By Alan

February 25, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this

The whole thing with Zhitnik and his comments in the paper have me wondering. Is he not playing good because he doesn’t like the coaching situation? Is he dissatisfied, or does he really suck? He showed a good bit of brilliance last season, but he’s been awful this season. Coupled with being out of shape (a personal decision, I would think), perhaps this is his way of rebelling?

Either way, if he doesn’t want to play, we need to buy him out, move him, do whatever it takes to get rid of him.

By Tony H

February 25, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this

For what little it is worth - Eklund says that the Hossa transaction probably won’t go down today

By Nikita

February 25, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this

So…not to break up the doom & gloom…but I am now watching the end of the Leafs game. This is a crazy hostile refing environment. At least two of the calls are complete BS — the boarding (Chuk) and cross-checking (Popovic) calls. Plus the hits on Lehtonen should have been more heavily punished. Also, Recchi was a little off — not too off, but he has a lot of poorly-focused SOG. Exelby is playing execrably. It’s ridiculous how much time Klee is spending alone against multiple forwards.

So…what I’m saying here is I think we really have a good shot at the upcoming game. Home game + better ref environment + incrementally better play = win. Now, I’m not saying the beating the Leafs is good enough, but it’s good enough for the upcoming game.

By Hard to believe in "blueland" right now

February 25, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this

Thinking about the problems sourrounding this team, defense seems to constantly take the brunt of it. I certainly agree with that. Zhitnik and Klee are just terrible. They just seem to be on the ice for every single goal against. But i must say, and can’t recall anyone else realy pointing out this flaw is, why are teams in the Thrashers defensive zone for long enough periods of time to get 40+ shots a game? How many games does it seem the entire game is played in front of Lehtonen or Hedburg? I know the defense making a playable breakout 1st pass is a crucial one indeed but why else? A big reason is, besides #17, and sadly #18, the Thrash don’t really have a possesion type offense to stay in the offensive zone very long.

Think about it, every offensive chance seems to be when Kovy has a rush up the left side. Aside from that, they try to dump and chase, yet don’t have the dump and chase personel so they can’t get it back. Teams have learned that and stand them up on the blueline and force them to give up the puck and back into defense mode we go. They don’t like getting the “dirty” goals by standing in front of the net. When was the last time you saw a scrum in front of the other teams goalie because they couldn’t get a Thrasher out of the crease? I couldn’t tell ya but i could tell ya that it doesn’t happen very often. At least not often enough for a playoff team.

Sadly, the 4th liners of Bolts, Thor, and Slater all seem to play the best puck possesion game on the team. That just can’t be the case on a solid hockey team. You can’t play constant perimeter hockey, always just looking for the breakaway or 2 on 1 break. It seems the team is playing “defense” for 85% of the game.

The offense’s ineptitude to keep play in the other teams zone has a direct impact on the Thrash defensive lapses. Then it definately doesn’t help that you have less than steller defense “patroling” the D zone.

Sadly, this is why they were swept in the playoffs last year badly, and failed to suceed this year. They don’t play “playoff” style hockey. The passion, the intensity, the big hits, the standing up for teammates, the character, the ability to respond to a challenge, the pride, the grind it on the boards, the toughness in front of the net, the will to hit before being hit, the wilingness to do what you need to do to get the job done.

You will score goals from the outside from time to time. But to be a real contender, you need to have the drive to get dirty, work the boards, get nasty in front of the net and on the boards. Most of all, you need the heart. And sadly, while i won’t say never, you rarely see any of those descriptions describing many Thrashers or their team style of play.

Just look at the champ last year, the Ducks. They exemplfy most of those traits on most every night. Thats why I don’t think the Wings will win it, the Sens are trying to change but not sure if they get it yet. But we know these Thrashers don’t get it. Keith Tkachuk got it. Too bad he couldn’t stay. He honestly could have made an incredible difference this season.

Sorry its so long, just frustated with this team and watching how this season has gone. Just thought I would point out a observation i’ve made and seems to get overlooked.

By Nikita

February 25, 2008 1:38 PM | Link to this

Dammit, it’s Montreal, not Toronto. What the heck am I thinking?

Just look at the champ last year, the Ducks. They exemplfy most of those traits on most every night.

Yep. The Ducks physically overwhelm their opponents at every level.

On Klee, I think he’s a mid-level, very dependable D-Man — but he gets hung out to dry a lot while either Ex or Zhitty takes a powder.

By The Other Bob

February 25, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this

Rawhide - OK, no expensing….but anyway, no new news down here at my post inside the Cheetah.

However, things may be perking up soon! And, a thought came to mind…does anyone have a single defender that could be, say, …implanted… into the system that would help out imediately as wall as for the future???

By J(Z)

February 25, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this

This seems very very strange how quiet this trade deadline has been. Betwee Hossa, Holik, Hedberg I would’ve bet anything that at least ONE would’ve been dealt before noon today. It really is tough to get any work done!!!!!!!

By Thrash1

February 25, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this

Hard to believe in “blueland” right now

Amen. You said it all.

By Sara

February 25, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this

Nascar dave Waddell didn’t choose to start the season $6.5 million under the cap either I can assure you. That is an ownership imposed cap. Before the Spirit Group, AOL/TW set ridiculously low salary cap amounts on the team. That handicaps any GM’s ability to offer competitive contracts in the marketplace and bring in top-tier talent.

I’m not saying give Waddell a “free pass” but too many people I think blame Waddell for things over which he has no control. You can assess drafting, development, and sometimes trades all on Waddell - but FA signings and lack thereof may have factors completely unrelated.

By TableHockey

February 25, 2008 2:32 PM | Link to this

Im guessing a rental deal like this would be similar to our Tkachuk deal last year where we gave up a certain amount of players/picks up front but could get some back if he didn’t sign.

If that’s the case I hope we get some goodies regardless of whether or not he signs with whomever we trade him to. Especially since I feel that Hossa really wants to open the table on UFA and see what deals come in.

I wonder if the real Hossa will show up on his new team or if the Hossa that’s afraid of getting injured before UFA shows up…

By NASCAR Dave

February 25, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this

Waddell didn’t choose to start the season $6.5 million under the cap either I can assure you. That is an ownership imposed cap.

SARA True to an extent. Because I remember Waddell saying very early on in the season that the 6.5 would be used before the trade deadline, so we won’t have our backs against the wall like last season at the deadline.

Well, I don’t see Waddell spending yet, do you? So you tell me who is LYING.

Also, if you want to continue bad-mouthing the ASG, Sara, why do you Nasty Nesters continue to support them by buying tickets and going to the games?

Actions speak louder than words. And you support the Spirit by attending and spending your money there, so how can you turn around and bad-mouth them?

Absolutely puzzling….

By Joshgekko

February 25, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this

NASCAR Dave Yeah, because not going to games would def make them change. Except not. That’d be the fastest way to see the thrashers leave atlanta! Its bad enough that our TV viewership numbers are atrocious, at least to this point our attendance hasnt been half bad. If enough voices yell loud enough, they hear it. Whether they do something about it is yet to be seen.

By MB

February 25, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this

The Other Bob, re: a defenseman:

Yeah, possibly, possibly a young Bobby Orr.

By J(Z)

February 25, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this

Someone tell me this is a HOAX!

Marián Hossa (Born January 12, 1979, in Stará Ľubovňa, Czechoslovak Socialist Republic (now Slovakia)) is a Slovak professional ice hockey right winger who currently plays for the Montreal Canadiens of the National Hockey League.

On Monday Feburary 25, 2008, Atlanta traded Hossa to the Montreal Canadiens for prospects Mikhail Grabovski and P.K. Subban, as well as Montreal’s 1st Round draft pick in the 2008 NHL Entry Draft.

(It’s on wikipedia)

By Sara

February 25, 2008 3:44 PM | Link to this

Nascar Dave usually it helps to know what you’re talking about before you actually open your mouth. Unless you like the taste of shoe leather, of course. Perhaps you should meander over to the NN website and see for yourself how many of us intend to keep right on spending money with ASG - or not as the case most likely is.

And you want to complain about Waddell not spending the $6.5M when everyone is asking him to go into seller’s mode? Look, everyone knows ownership set the salary cap for the team, not Waddell. Owners are always the ones who control the purse strings ultimately. And these owners have shown repeatedly how cheap they are - aside from the salary cap, give-aways and promos are down drastically from last season, half the concessions in the upper bowls aren’t even open on many game nights (though prices are certainly up), and I would be willing to bet one of the big reasons we never got a new coach is because the Spirit doesn’t want to pay for another one. Considering how much money has gone flying out the door in legal costs, none of this should be surprising to anyone.

By Rawhide

February 25, 2008 4:00 PM | Link to this

J(Z) - I just listen to Craig Custance on 680 and there was NO mention of any deal thus far…

By Stu

February 25, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this

They need to move Hossa. If they keep him they get nothing at the end of the year. There’s still a slim chance they can make the playoffs if Washington keeps coming up short and Carolina falls apart. But I don’t see it. Trade him now and at least get some picks or prospects. Wait until the deadline passes and they end up with nothing but cap room. Better to have cap room and some high draft picks to keep building the team.

By Alan

February 25, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this

Seems like there’s a bit of Wikipedia vandalism going on surrounding Marian Hossa. It’s strange and amusing, since the vandals have said he plays for Montreal and Detroit (from what I’ve seen, anyway.)

So far, no deal is in the press that I’ve seen. Hoping one gets done soon.

By Brendan

February 25, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this

This TEAM is NOT LEAVING, for the 1,000th time. For the Love of Pete, all it needs to do … is make “better decisions.” That’s it. Nothing more. Our market isn’t “bad.” Our economy isn’t crumbling. We don’t have a 30-year old arena, in shambles, with no luxury suites. We’re the 8th largest market in the nation and we’re only getting bigger. See those bulldozers over there? They’re clearing land for more shopping malls, strip malls, schools, churches, and subdivisions.

If the NHL pulled the plug on this market … they’d be the biggest bunch of “bozos” running professional sports. Gary Bettmen, despite popular opinion, is not an abject moron.

Ya know what this argument boils down to? Okay, let’s simplify it. Imagine you, the casual fan/observer, are a cashier at sayyyy, “Target.” Still with me?

And you watch a very fashion-conscience mother escorting her unruly 8-year old son about the store. You observe the following conversation taking place at your register.

Boy: “Buy me this video game, Mom.”

Mom: “This game is rated “T” for Teen. You’re not old enough for this yet.”

Boy: “So? Buy for it me anyway.”

Mom: “Okay, sweetie.” And she tossles his hair. “Anything for Mommy’s ‘sweet, sweet treasure.’”

Boy: (Watching his mother procure one (1) copy of the video game) “Oh no!!, you BETTER buy two (2), ‘cuz I’m not sharing with Belkin.”

Mom: “Oh, but sweetie. You two were getting along so well. Why can’t you work this out? Brothers should learn how to share.”

Boy: “Shut up, Mom! Why don’t you just do what you do best, stand there and pay for my hockey tickets, I mean purchases… I mean video game.”

Guess who the Atlanta Spirit group is in this hypothetical? Guess who the “enabling” Mom, who refuses to discipline and control her child, is? Guess who the cashier is? Oh wait, we already covered that part.

Figure the rest out yet? Good!

Stop advocating that we go buy the video game for the spoiled, irresponsible brat(s). Once the 8-year old boy has to walk out of the store without the video game, and his tushy throbbing from a very harsh and long-overdue spanking, I think he’ll get message about “entitlements” and the laws of “cause and effect.” Such that the 8-year old might seek out his brother, Belkin, bury the hatchet, and agree that if they’re ever going to go shopping at Target again, and reasonably expect to GET ANYTHING out of their mother (STH), that they’d better be on their best behavior and to get their acts together. Then, and only then, they might earn the “consideration” of their Mom, in terms of “generosity.”

There is comportment. There is accountability. I’m not buying these kids any video games today. Or anytime soon. I need to see an acknowledgement of misbehavior and correspondingly corrective action. Take the first step. Admit there’s a “problem” at the GM position (8 seasons, no playoff series wins—not even one game). Take corrective action. Bring in somebody decent. End this ridiculous lawsuit, so that you can really and truly compete in the market place. How HARD is it, really, to buy someone out?

It’s amazing how FAST a mother can forgive her child. But the child has to show some willingness and effort to improve.

By J(Z)

February 25, 2008 4:40 PM | Link to this

Forsberg staying in Swe…no, wait, Forsberg to Avs

By Alan

February 25, 2008 5:05 PM | Link to this

This TEAM is NOT LEAVING, for the 1,000th time

So you’re sick of seeing that line too, eh? Good for you. More people need to realise this and shout down those individuals who seem to want the team to leave so badly, they’ll repeat the lie until they’re blue in the face.

By The Dnulke Report

February 25, 2008 5:21 PM | Link to this

According to numerous sources, Marian Hossa has been traded for two, really slow, 38 year old midgets. (d5)

By Batman

February 25, 2008 5:32 PM | Link to this

Rawhide - So far nothing to report from the Bat Cave, I can’t shed any light on any confirmed trade rumors. Hopefully, the Thrashers GM will not be played by some Joker.

By Alan

February 25, 2008 6:01 PM | Link to this

Batman - That’s a Riddler of a comment, to be sure. Perhaps we’ll get a Penguin for Hossa? Maybe the Mad Hatter will have something to do with all this? I just hope we don’t end up with a Killer Moth. Only time will tell, though.

Tune in tomorrow, kids! Same bat-time, same bat-channel!

By Sage of Bluesland

February 25, 2008 7:37 PM | Link to this

I laugh at the misguided sheep who will continue to subsidize the incompetence that Don Waddell represents!!! Come H#$$ or High-Water, they are going to drink the asinine Kool-Aid no matter how many facts stare them in the face!!!

Poor little sheep…

(And to think that some think our bumbling Donny will actually do ‘good’ with an asset such as Hossa! Haven’t nine years of mostly ineptitude been proof enough for you? Oh wait, you’re still likely spending someone else’s hard-earned money…)

By Sheepherder

February 25, 2008 7:54 PM | Link to this

That Sage guy is humping my sheep again.

By Sisu

February 25, 2008 8:16 PM | Link to this

Wow, let’s dump the whole team and bring up the Wolves so the kids will get used to losing! A Brilliant idea…seriously, only make trades that make sense. If Zhit can be dealt then fine. Hossa could stay but who knows.

By Brendan

February 25, 2008 8:24 PM | Link to this

Sage, the PT Barnum quote, “There’s a ‘sucker’ born every minute?” Did I win?

By The Other Bob

February 25, 2008 8:39 PM | Link to this

sniff…sniff I smell sniff wet wool…did Sage bring his sheep “girlfiends” in here again???

By Mac Attack

February 25, 2008 8:43 PM | Link to this

It would be nice to finally see a star in Montreal. It’s been a long time since we last saw one. My prediction if the trade goes through:

Huet (4M)& Ryder (3M) for Hossa (7M). Ryder + Kovalchuk = Ryder at least 30-40 goals next season, not bad for 3M.

Reasoning: Carey Price had a weak game last time in front of the nets and Carbonneau is announcing Price to start against Atlanta tomorrow.

By skeen

February 25, 2008 8:52 PM | Link to this

mac i dont really think that the thrashers need a new goalie if we happen to lose Hedberg we always have Pavelec we could pull up i know alot of people think the thrashers goalies suck but have you ever noticed how many shots are shot on them commpared to the other team

By Rawhide

February 25, 2008 8:57 PM | Link to this

Mac Attack - Howdie, there!

OK, I’ll play…first of all, none of that addresses our needs on defense or center, nothing against Ryder mind you.

Plus, what in the world would we do with Huet? Do we turn around and trade him for help on the blueline? Do we keep him and trade Hedberg for same???? IF that were the case, then I might see your point.

Plus, with Hossa as the big big fish in the pond right now, we gotta get futures as well.

BTW, Toronto is up 4-0 on Ottawa. We are a period and a half away from being in 14th place.

By Sage of Bluesland

February 25, 2008 8:58 PM | Link to this

Yes, Brendan, that is precisely what P.T. Barnum was supposed to have said…I always think of that sad joke otherwise known as “Blueland” when I hear that phrase…

(I wonder why? But, reading some of the hopeless optomists here make all that confusion go away…Poor little mindless sheep…What year, again, is it of Donny’s own “Five-Year Plan”? Checkmate.)

By kracker

February 25, 2008 9:36 PM | Link to this

People here are getting pretty buggy….we need trade news, any trade news.

Brendan Love ya, pal but that is way to long and convulated of a post to put up the day before the TD…are you travelling, is it after midnight where you are?

By Bob

February 25, 2008 9:39 PM | Link to this

Goodness, enough of the “we’re going to lose the team” handwringing. 1st, there is no way the NHL lets Atlanta lose a team again, we’re the 10th or something biggest market. No way.

2nd, the Spirit own the rights to the Arena. They are making money, you ninnies, there is no way they’d hold the club if they weren’t. There is no way they’d be spending all of these legal fees to fight over losing assets, they’re making money, ya humps. If you recall, they bought the Thrashers for about, oh, nothing. The hockey team was basically a throw in when they consumated the deal.

There is one thing left to do with the Spirit, hold them accountable. They are the ones that need to make the right decision to get a new GM in here, and I’m sure they will. It’s the reason why they threw Waddell down on the bench. I have little doubt they told him “you built this mess, you go fix it” when he had to fire Hartley after 6 games. He didn’t fix it, which is why we are where we’re at today. His best player is walking away because he can’t build a winning environment here. Hold the Spirit accountable, no season tix for next year until 1, they get a real GM in here, and 2, spend some money on July 1. Then we can talk about buying tix for next year, until then they’re Missouri to me-Show Me

By Rawhide

February 25, 2008 9:54 PM | Link to this

OK, somebody tell me if I’m all wet on this…

With Forsberg signing with Colorado, this makes a deal for Hossa more likely with Detroit. Seeing that the Avs are gearing up for a playoff run, they now might feel the need to counter-act on the move.

Not that the Avs are any real “threat” to the Wings even with the addition of Forsberg…but with the rivalry built from playoffs-past, Detroit may feel the desire to sign the player who is arguably the biggest prize of Trade Deadline-A-Palooza ‘08 to not only stregthen their already-mighty team…but to also poke the Avs in the eye as if to say, “Oh you got Peter? Well we got Marian”.

Childish I know…but I just can’t help but think if there was a deal on the table with them already…they may sweeten the pot a bit more now.

Now…as for dealing Zhitnik…I know it’s real easy to say things like “Oh, trade Zhitty…get what you can and get him out of here”….but let’s be honest here folks, who out there is going to look at his aging legs, -11 and $3.5 million salary due him over next season and say, “Oh yeah! There is the missing piece to our playoff-run puzzle”!

PUH-leeze!

As for trading him for futures to an LA or Edmonton or another team with no shot at postseason….if your the GM of one of those clubs…are YOU going to make that trade?

Not me.

By Brendan

February 25, 2008 10:09 PM | Link to this

Kracker, thank you. Here’s the “Reader’s Digest version”: Don’t let your 8-year old BOSS you around!! (Ignore the rest.)

For those of you from Livonia, Michigan, here’s the translation: Don’t let the Atlanta Spirit Group BOSS you SEASON TICKET HOLDERS around!! It is YOU, not they, who HOLD THE POWER. You are the parent. They are the 8-year old child. Got it? What are they going to do? Emancipate themselves? Divorce you?

They don’t make any money … unless they move the “inventory.” And when their shelves are stocked with “useless crap,” why should you buy it? Much less having it “foisted” on you for MORE money?

Clear enough?

(But no!! Yet another person will chime in to say … The sky is falling! This team could relocate!! You BETTER support the 8-year old child, having a “hissy fit” in Target, because they want a video game. Or some other ridiculous argument, like TARGET will close down if you don’t buy your 8-year old child a video game. You watch! It’s coming. All they have to do … is make BETTER DECISIONS, to get BETTER RESULTS. And BETTER RESULTS fill the stands with paying customers.)

By kracker

February 25, 2008 10:19 PM | Link to this

hockeybuzz chat: boyle resigned for 6 years, 6.5 million per year in tampa

By Brendan

February 25, 2008 10:36 PM | Link to this

I knew Feaster wans’t an idiot. So much for my “man crush” on Dan Boyle. Meanwhile, Feaster found a home was Vaclav Prospal in the form of the Philadelphia Flyers, who finally won a game, elevating their record to 1-8-2 in their past eleven (11) games.

Brad Richards can’t be too far away, if they’re retaining Lecavalier and Marty St. Louis in Tampa.

By kracker

February 25, 2008 10:51 PM | Link to this

eklund: Rob Blake has reportedly told the Kings he’s willing to waive his no-trade clause and according to source close to the situation Colorado is the likely destination.

By Brendan

February 25, 2008 11:08 PM | Link to this

Well, doesn’t that “fit,” in the old “roundup the 2001 Champs” approach? What’s next, out of retirement comes Raymond Bourque and Patrick Roy? Does Blake have a year left on that contract?

By Joshgekko

February 26, 2008 8:36 AM | Link to this

Brendan Whatever dude, don’t go. I enjoy not having to wait in line to grab a beer! Me, I’m supporting MY team!

By Bob

February 26, 2008 9:26 AM | Link to this

Rawhide, Foppa signing gives Detroit a little impetus to get something done for Hoss, but I don’t think anyone’s too worried about old Foota, he is a shadow of his former self. But bingo, are you spot on about Zhitnik, who the heck is dumb enough to trade for him? Unless Waddell ties Zhitnik to Hossa and makes the other team take him, I can’t see any way someone takes that contract on for his “play”.

By ranallo10

February 26, 2008 10:54 AM | Link to this

Brendan — Sorry buddy, I cried for you a little on the inside when I read the news about Boyle last night. Maybe you’ll have to foster a crush for someone more attainable? Roszival was pretty high on your list if I remember correctly.

By What the puck

February 26, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this

Hey Rawhide is their any new news on Hossa. Or of any other trades for that matter.

By Rawhide

February 26, 2008 11:12 AM | Link to this

WTP - What I have so far is that Hossa did not join the team at skate this AM, DW was spotted in Hamilton scouting the Bulldogs last night and that Montreal called up Centerman Grabovski he’s expected to be a part of a some deal.

By what the puck

February 26, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this

Thanks Rawhide I apreciate it.

By Thrasher Ryan

February 26, 2008 11:31 AM | Link to this

GRABOVSKI? WTF? Didn’t he used to pitch for the Braves??? Just Kidding…

Well Rawhide, with Tampa shoring up the D for the next 6 years, what will Waddell do? Trade for a RW (Ryder)?

DEFENSE!!! DEFENSE!!!

Any trade with MTL is crap unless we get Komisarek or Streit, or both.

It is time to address our DISMAL DEFENSE!

By Thrasher Ryan

February 26, 2008 11:45 AM | Link to this

Well we just lost out on Brian Campbell. Man, this doesn’t look good for us Rawhide. Custance is reporting that Zhinik, Holik, and Moose are on the ice.

DANGIT!!!

By sloppy seconds

February 26, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this

what is DW waiting on??? do something dammit!

By Brendan

February 26, 2008 1:02 PM | Link to this

Thanks Ranallo, I’m suffering through it. Six frekkin’ years. It’ll never happen for us now, unless we trade for Boyle. And, let’s face it, we’re never going to trade with Tampa Bay. Brian Campell and Buffalo’s 7th round pick have gone to the San Jose Sharks for their 1st round pick (#20-25, roughly) RW Steve Bernier, 23 in March, and a pending RFA, who presently makes $850,000. In 160 NHL games, Bernier has 42 goals, 39 helpers, for 81-points, and is a +7 in his career. Campbell rejected a 3-years/$17 million offer, as you might expect he would. I don’t understand Regier at this point. Why not offer 5-years/$28.5 million? I bet Campbell would have “settled” for that, and he’s what you WANTED. So, what was the problem? Buffalo, you have the money to do this. Bygones for them.

Yes, Renallo, we’ll have to “settle” on Roszival, assuming he’d give us the time of day.

Joshgekko, as soon as “Target” (Thrashers) restocks the shelves with better products (players, coaches, GM), I’ll be happy to shop there, and to bring a friend when I go, thus doubling Target’s profit. And BEER SALES. “Target” just has to figure out what BETTER PRODUCTS are and acquire them. Let the 8-year old (The ASG) throw his hissy fit. Maybe he’ll get it out of his system, straighten-up, and fly right, with some “tough love.” No good?

By Brendan

February 26, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this

CORRECTION: Steve Bernier, who is a pending RFA, and not “AND a pending RFA.” Buffalo is only getting one immediate player in this deal.

By ranallo10

February 26, 2008 1:08 PM | Link to this

Foote to Colorado…you might be on to something Brendan!

By John

February 26, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this

Guys, very late word is that Boston is out of Hossa sweepstakes. Thats directly from the GM at Noon Eastern. Its widely believed that Boston agreed to a deal with Waddell over the weekend, but could NOT negotiate a deal with Marian. Gm Chiarelli only confirms they had a deal with “a major player but could not negotiate an extension”. Hossa wants mega money.I say he goes to Montreal on a rental basis. I think Marian is maing it impossible to do an extension unless some one just blows him away.

By Brendan

February 26, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this

Oh Goodness, Ranallo. Colorado must really think they’ve got a shot at it. I hope this doesn’t come back to “bite” them. Forsberg, Foote … can Rob Blake be far behind??

By Rawhide

February 26, 2008 1:20 PM | Link to this

Well, Washington is gearing up…they got Huet from MTL and now TSN is reporting that Federov went to the Caps…

By ranallo10

February 26, 2008 1:26 PM | Link to this

“we’ll have to settle”?? No man crush for me, not on Rozsival. It’s ALL YOU BUD.

By John

February 26, 2008 1:32 PM | Link to this

Phil Kessel’s name IS NOT on the Bruins Roster right now. He was rumored to be tghe guy Waddell agreed to take this weekend before extensiom talks failed. I THINK he’s going elsewhere…still think Hossa will got to either Montreal or Ottawa, but….

By ranallo10

February 26, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this

Brendan — I heard Claude Lemieux is coming out of retirement for this 7 year reunion party.

By Bob Hartley

February 26, 2008 1:37 PM | Link to this

So..uh..I heard dat de guys from ‘01 is gettin’…uh…back togeder in Colorado….??? Er, ah…should I be expectin’ a call?

By Brendan

February 26, 2008 1:37 PM | Link to this

You’re telling me you wouldn’t want Roszival as a free agent signing, if he would even “consider” it? We can’t be this “choosy” anymore, Ranallo. What’s here, right now, in Atlanta, to get FA all “fired up?”

All right, one of my GM heros just got “fleeced.” Jim Rutherford just traded Andrew Ladd, a former 1st round pick, to Chicago for Tuumo Ruuto. I have no idea why?

Tampa just picked up a goalie named Mike Smith, Forward Jussi Jokinen (Dang!), and Forward Jeff Halpern, formerly of the Capitals, from the Dallas Stars. Dallas got former Conn Smythe winner, Brad Richards and goaltender Cristobal Huet.

Florida got defenseman Karlis Skrastin from Colorado for Defenseman Ruslan Salei.

Ottawa got Martin Lapoint (Forward) from the Blackhawks for Ottawa’s 6th round pick in 2008.

And yes, the Washington Capitals have procurred Sergei Federov to augment Ovechkin for depth for a playoff run. I have yet to ascertain what Columbus has received for selling off Adam Foote and Sergei Federov. The rumor mill suggested that pair might come to Atlanta for Hossa. I’m glad that didn’t happen!

By ranallo10

February 26, 2008 1:40 PM | Link to this

Perhaps the Thrashers need to make like the French military and fold it up in the face of stronger adversaries…then maybe Philips Arena wont be torn down as they pass through.

By ranallo10

February 26, 2008 1:44 PM | Link to this

Brendan — He’s a serviceable defenseman in my mind, but I don’t have anything close to a man crush on Rozsival.

By Brendan

February 26, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this

Well, I’ll agree with that one. No “man crush” for Roszival. But I’d certainly take ‘im, if we could get him. Which, sadly, I think we can’t.

By Brendan

February 26, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this

Whoever did that Bob Hartley post, I loved it!!

By R. Stroz

February 26, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this

ranallo10 - DW is entrenched on the Maginot Line as the SS sweeps thru Belgium and the Luftwaffe are flying over and into Paris.

By Brendan

February 26, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this

John, looks like it’s not going to happen with Boston.

By ranallo10

February 26, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this

You remember that day well, don’t you Stroz??

By R. Stroz

February 26, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this

ranallo10 - German & Scottish ancestry.

By ranallo10

February 26, 2008 2:25 PM | Link to this

So why the hard feelings for the Austrian???

By R. Stroz

February 26, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this

ranallo10 - You don’t really want me to have hard feelings for the Austrian, do you?

By John

February 26, 2008 2:35 PM | Link to this

Brendan, yup I hear we’re out of it accordingto Boston’s GM. Here’s what we’re hearing: Hossa and Hedberg are headed to Montreal…details need to be worked out. I don’t know what you’re getting. Rumor I hear is we’ll get official word about an hour after the deadline. This stuff is fun.

By ranallo10

February 26, 2008 2:37 PM | Link to this

Stroz — Good point…

GROSS!

By John

February 26, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this

BTW, my own hunch is Waddell is playing off Montreal against Ottawa. The Senators are in close to panic mode and may do something silly to keep Hossa off the Canadiens. But the rumors we’re hearing here is that Montreal thinks it has a deal for Hedberg and Hossa.

By Alfred Hitchcock

February 26, 2008 2:51 PM | Link to this

There is no fear in the BANG…only the anticipation of it.

By ranallo10

February 26, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this

John — Who is the “we” you keep mentioning??

By Rawhide

February 26, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this

BREAKING NEWS - Hossa to Pittsburg…in return…Colby Armstrong, Erik Christianson, and Angelo Esposido….

By ranallo10

February 26, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this

Esposito, Christiansen, Armstrong, draft pick for Dupuis and Hossa.

Damnit, I didn’t want Dupuis included.

By Nikita

February 26, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this

Ok…Hossa + Dupuis for Esposito, Armstrong, Christensen and a first-round draft pick.

Well played, Waddell.

By ranallo10

February 26, 2008 3:11 PM | Link to this

RH — Cheater, you edited your post (just like Eklund does)…

The draft pick is apparently a first rounder.

By Rawhide

February 26, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this

Ranallo - perks of the blog hosts :)

Yes, Hossa and Dupruis to Pitt and in return the three Nikita stated.

By Nikita

February 26, 2008 3:17 PM | Link to this

I think it’s a good trade — but no defensemen? I’m hoping one of the OT trades involves ATL picking up someone who plays D.

By kreedham

February 26, 2008 4:07 PM | Link to this

Nikita I’m a little short on hockey knowledge. What’s an OT trade?

By Brendan

February 26, 2008 4:10 PM | Link to this

Hey, there will be no booing of Marian Hossa. This wasn’t his fault. The season ended with three (3) losses to middling teams like the Islanders, ‘Canes, and Maple Leafs. It displayed is “heart” and “desire” in those losses. This Hossa trade was all about building for the future. And I like it! Christensen is a 3rd line player … IN PITTSBURGH. But in Atlanta, he’s a 2nd line player. Angelo Esposito is a very solid prospect. Fantastic pick up, far better than what Waddell has ever drafted from past the 12th overall pick. Colby Armstrong will bring Atlanta some much needed grit and fire. He’ll be able to play on the 2nd line here in Atlanta.

Christensen is a shootout specialist, as well. Plus, we get another 1st round draft pick. Granted, it’ll be somewhere between #20 and #30 overall, but hey … in capable hands, a GM can find something. Or, in the case of Waddell, he can trade the pick for an NHL player off some desperate team’s roster, preferably a serviceable defenseman.

I like this trade. It will net us four (4) players, potentially, in our starting lineup. Folks who don’t like this trade will fall into this category: Delusional that Hossa was coming back. He wasn’t. That’s been clear for AGES now. DW allowed the next GM to have a shot at building a deeper, faster, tougher lineup.

Why on EARTH Don Waddell didn’t complete the “firesale” by unloading Holik, Moose, Recchi, and McCarthy, I guess I’ll never know. This was NOT a move to “salvage” the season.

Folks, the season is over. Like I said, it ended with 0-6 points vs. the Isles, ‘Canes, and Buds. If you can’t see that … well, perhaps you’re delusional.

Good job, Don Waddell. You acted responsibly. And who knows, because of it, you just might land yourself another gig in the NHL.

Marian, thanks for the memories. Your 100-point season in 2007 was majestic. You never chose Atlanta, but you made the most of it. Good luck in Pittsburgh and winning the Cup this year. I wish Hossa nothing but the best.

By PJ

February 26, 2008 4:26 PM | Link to this

Rawhide Well we still have a game tonight and it looks like we’ll see some of the wolfpack return.

GO THRASHERS!!!

BTW, Brandan Am I allowed to have a man-crush?

By Alan

February 26, 2008 4:31 PM | Link to this

Why on EARTH Don Waddell didn’t complete the “firesale”

Because there never was a firesale.

By ranallo10

February 26, 2008 4:35 PM | Link to this

PJ — I assign who can and cannot have man crushes around here. GET THAT STRAIGHT!

I’ll deliberate your request and get back to you. Any options or choices for your prospective man-crush would be appreciated, and might help your case (other than Tlusty).

By Brendan

February 26, 2008 5:03 PM | Link to this

PJ, you’re entitled to a “man crush” or two, or possibly three, if you’re really the adventurous sort. But, really, they’re just “crushes” for females. The “man” part is usually understood.

(He said, “man part.”) I knew someone would RAZZ me about that post.

By ranallo10

February 26, 2008 5:33 PM | Link to this

Hehe, Brendan said “understood”…