Thrashers

By stendec

October 29, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this

First, I deeply regret injury. Pray for quick and complete recovery. I do not wish any of the players physical harm. Not even What’s-His-Name! Get well and back on ice soon.

Ahem. I appreciate you looking in Tommysteele. Thanks for the kind words. Like Rawhide a lot. Real nice man. Just will not post on his site. Idol worship differences. Thanks again. I am not liked on this site because I refuse to unquestionably accept ineptitude from paid professional athletes. I speak my mind. Right or wrong. No matter who likes or dislikes it. I prefer wins and championships but I am in the minority on this site. These deceived fans prefer statistics. Have at them. Those of Thrasher goaltender in newest Ice Man entry courtesy of Tommysteele so do not blame me this time. What hope do Thrashers have under John Petrino? Sit, trade or banish (pick one) What’s-His-Name and Moose. Chain Pavs between the pipes then roll the dice. Hey, a 7-0 loss under a young goaltender hurts just as much as a 7-0 loss under an untalented veteran goaltender with supposed potential which will remain as such until the day he dies! The no-score offense must go. We were not shut out at home by a great defensive team with a stellar netminder! There is no player on this team that can put a puck in the net on a consistent basis. NOT ONE! Bring in the Hansen Brothers from the Charleston Chiefs. The wimpish p+ssywhipped attitude of the team was embarrassing! Actually nauseating. The Thrashers exposed themselves on national television as being soft, gutless, talentless, clueless, defenseless, ball-ness, prideless and (choose a)less! Hey, many of these were on other hockey sites. Fight. Show some pride. At least ACT like men! Can the team average two goals per game? Highly unlikely. Will goaltenders allow three or more goals per night? Almost certainly. How many goals will Ilya “Moving On” Kovalchuk score? If he is really lucky around 25 or 30. Playoffs. Playoffs? Thrasher fans are gut-punched enough already. Do not play that joker card!

By stendec

October 29, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this

Listen Tommysteele. Alan is full of something! Not hockey knowledge, certainly. Those numbers are terrible!Any goalie who allows 3.5 goals per game does not belong between the pipes. Acceptable? To who? Not a true hockey fan for sure! Be honest, Alan. You know those numbers stink to high Heaven. Do not lie to a novice! You go to Hell for that.

By Bob

October 29, 2008 1:12 PM | Link to this

God Bless you, stendec!

I’m too lazy to look it up, but how many pts. do Christensen and Williams have? I don’t care that much about Williams, but it would be nice to see Christensen turn into a hockey player.

By Gregg49

October 29, 2008 1:12 PM | Link to this

Wow. See, I told you we did not have enough offense. I told you we would lose BAD last night. This team is very predictable. Sub-Par talent, overall, with 1 legitimate scoring threat who is easily shut down. Oh well.

By dave schultz

October 29, 2008 1:12 PM | Link to this

stendec, i agree 100% that the Thrashers need to show some fight. it was the same team from last year all over again - gutless. you’ll get flamed for your other comments, but you are right on about our lack of heart. we looked whipped. soft ..prideless..etc etc..

By The Riddler

October 29, 2008 1:18 PM | Link to this

How many apologists does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

2, 1 to screw it in, and the other to make excuses for the incompetence the whole time. New system, new coaches, new players. Time’s up with that excuse, apologists.

Fire Waddell.

By Terry in Dahlonega

October 29, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this

Are we moving in the Right Direction yet?

By Lazarus

October 29, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this

WHen is the next game at Boo-Hoo Land??When do we get to go Boo-Hoo over the Boo-Boos?That is a good name for this junk,Boo-Hoo Land.Mike,do you believe in Boo-hoo Land??how can I become one in Boo-Hoo Land ?

By PuckedUp

October 29, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this

Sure would be nice if some of you folks would join the nasty nest. To most of those folks Waddell can do no wrong. I’ve been a thorn in that side for about as long as I can stand. Need some more new blood to provide angst to this topic over there. The site needs more folks who are sick of the losing.

By Bob

October 29, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this

To most of those folks Waddell can do no wrong

Why I am not shocked that the Mensa candidates who shout out “Brodeur, you suck” while he’s shutting us out, would think Waddell isn’t the most incompetent GM in hockey the root of our problem since Day 1?

By R. Stroz

October 29, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this

At this point, I only see one cure for the problems at hand, and the cure is a long shot.

According to some sources, Ottawa wants to scapegoat Spezza for their ills and Ottawa is in need of a goalie. The Thrashers need a real number 1 center, not a square peg in a round hole center.

So here’s the cure:

Trade either Pavs or Lehtonen plus a second round draft pick for Spezza. This trade probably needs to be tweeked; but, it is a move IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

On a different subject, stendec, we all know you don’t care for Kari. I believe your incessant diatribes are having a backlash. Anyway, move on from Kari, we would like to hear something slightly different. Pick on Waddell, he has ten years worth of material to choose from.

By Sara

October 29, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this

Stroz I’d be all over that deal (regardless of goalie) in a heartbeat. The Spezza grumblings have been going for a while but thus far OTT brass has denied any issue. Only problem though is while they need a goalie, they would also need a center to replace Spezza. Is there any indication they have someone else on the roster that could swing that or someone in the system? Cause obviously we don’t have one of those to give them (unless they want White who has now absolutely made my sh*tlist…stupid gator fan, unbelievable).

Interesting about the line shake-ups. I’m wondering though why Williams is being kept on the wing…didn’t he say he felt more comfortable at center and Anderson in turn say he played better at center? So why not put him at center?

Perrin-Slater-Sterling … if those guys can keep from getting smushed by the opposition, they could create a lot of havoc with their speed. For that reason I’d move them out of position 4 and up to at least 3. Let the Army-Thor-Reasoner line do the ugly 4th line grinder work.

By LAC.

October 29, 2008 2:32 PM | Link to this

Stroz, You called it. Get Spezza,he’s signed for 6 more years and a couple others, dump Kari Slater White or Perrin… Let’s get something moving.

Hello waddell are you asleep at the wheel again ??? Wake up you IDIOT DO SOMETHING !

By h

October 29, 2008 2:37 PM | Link to this

Nobody wants a loser in this town, NOBODY.and nobody accepts a loser in this town either, maybe we are just not so full of anger that we spew it in every post…..last night was bad in many respects…..it is still early…..Anaheim started 1-5…and they were losing badly…..now won 4 in a row…..no trades…..just kept playing….let’s see how this team responds….big line-up changes….let’s see how that plays out. Stroz, I thought about that Spezza trade too….it is an interesting possibility. I’d make the trade of Spezza for Pavs in a minute, but my guess is that we won’t trade either Pavs or Lehtonen until one is signed up long term, but you never know. I’m no apologist. I sat there last night and endured that nastiness with the rest of the folks. I pay alot of money for my season tickets and want to see a winner here as much as anyone….a little patience goes a long way (I know…10 years…blah blah blah…I get it). I may change my tune if we are in same position re: wins and losses after next 10 games, but not willing to call for a full mutiny after 9 games…we are after all in the SE division…..oh yeah…. stendec remains an idiot…..and in case he hasn’t mentioned it…..he hates Kari and DW…….and puppies.

By Alan

October 29, 2008 2:58 PM | Link to this

First, stendec, you may disagree with me, but it does not detract from what I’m saying or what I know to be fact. It is your opinion that I lack hockey knowledge, and you’re well and right to stand by it. But do not drag my name through the mud just because you have a temper tantrum after every damn game. Even the games we win, you have to pop your head in here and sully the names of players who you think (based on listening to the games on the radio) played awfully. It must be really painful to be such a bitter person, and I sincerely hope no one else here succumbs to that in their old age.

Secondly, I agree with Stroz — Get Spezza — now! He’s set up to be the scapegoat of what looks to be an awful season in Ottawa this year. He’s locked up for a good while, too. I would be inclined to send Pavs instead of Lehtonen, simply because Pavs agent has already expressed disappointment in the Thrashers organization and has lobbed accusations that the Thrashers are “stunting Pavelec’s development.” Secondly, if you look at the stats I posted back in April or May (I don’t have the time to dig out the blog, but I’m sure someone will), the stats for Pavelec and Lehtonen are nearly identical. sv%, saves, shots faced… nearly identical. In stendecland, this means Pavelec will suck as bad as Lehtonen does, so I’m thinking: Why change horsemen mid-apocalypse?

By Spud Webb

October 29, 2008 3:12 PM | Link to this

I would love Spezza here, who wouldn’t?But it’s not going to happen. They are going to wait a while up there (Ottawa) to see how things shake out. I watched them beat the snot out of the Sabres the other night, Spezza and Heatly looked unbelievable together. I just don’t see them dumping Spezza just yet. All my opinion. Not sure what we have down the middle to offer them anyway, yes we have a goalie to give, but realistically, not much else. On top of that, this ownership group would never, ever take on the additional salary. We all know this. Tough loss last night, hate to see the usual struggles, not getting the puck out of the zone, bad passes, skaters catching edges. We have to bounce back, no other choice. With Bogo out, bring up Valabik, lets at least get a little tougher. I don’t want a goon league by any means, but we have to show SOME FIGHT, energy, anything. Tired of watching ex, white & bolts.

By Jeff

October 29, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this

If the coaching staff is coaching like they are making a playoff run! Guess what one word SWEEP!

Anyone else notice the Versus staff talk about the lack of effort by #17

By McArty

October 29, 2008 3:34 PM | Link to this

What I can’t understand is how everyone seems to agree that Eric Perrin is not better than the 3rd or 4th line? Was it not last season that he finished 3rd on the Thrashers in scoring (45pts) and was not utilized to his full potential (he did not see much power play time last year)? The one game that he was placed (for more than 20 seconds) on a line with White & Kovalchuk - the line had 4 pts. Perrin has produced at every level in his career - why not here, why not now? IMO he can be part of the solution if Atlanta chooses that route. If not, out of respect for a player that has worked so hard to make it to this level, set him free. He was wanted last year at the trading deadline by Pittsburg in the Hossa deal, but Waddell refused to let him go, instead sending Dupuis. For what? To have him see dwindling ice time on a sinking ship of a team? Sometimes you have the right pieces of a puzzle but have no idea how to put it together for the right picture.

By Alan

October 29, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this

McArty - You are aware that Anderson runs four lines, right? His intention is to eventually give each line equal ice time. Being on the fourth line in a John Anderson system is no insult, so let’s not treat it like one.

By Bob

October 29, 2008 3:44 PM | Link to this

They’re not going to trade Spezza, that would be insane. That’s just the kind of heat that’s brought in a real hockey town

Anaheim started 1-5…and they were losing badly…..now won 4 in a row

While I appreciate this sentiment, a little reality might help as you’re comparing apples and hand grenades in the respective abilities to turn things around. Print out a copy of the Ducks’ roster and then print out a copy of the Thrashers. Compare and contrast.

By TRON

October 29, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this

CODDLER ALAN………….PAVELEC IS GOING NOWHERE………..HE IS THE FUTURE………YOUR BLUE HAIRED TEEN IDOL WONDERF+++ IS THE ONE ON HIS WAY OUT OF HERE………..DID YOU SEE HIS CHILDISH, IMMATURE TEMPER TANTRUM…LAST NIGHT…?……..AGAIN…..?….WHEN HE THREW HIS STICK………AT #17……..?……..?…….WHO’S FAULT WAS THAT LAST NIGHT, GENIUS………??……….WAS THAT THE DEFENSE’S FAULT……..?…….ACCORDING TO YOU AND THE APOLOGIST CODDLERS….IT WAS AND ALWAYS IS….ROFL….ROFL….ROFL……….

By McArty

October 29, 2008 4:01 PM | Link to this

Alan - It is definitely an insult to try and generate offense playing 5 minutes a game. JA does not (and should not) play 4 lines equally. The thing is, Perrin is playing for his life right now (he’s a UFA & he’s basically being benched). He’s been placed in a “specialized” role of penalty killer with a player (Reasoner) who is not offensive in that role (Perrin led the NHL in shorthanded pts last season and managed to get those pts w/a variety of players (Dupuis, Hossa, Slater, Armstrong). It’s not going to happen w/Reasoner. So, what’s not to be insulted by? Your team was 0-30 on the PP & you weren’t even given a sniff. You’ll end up with 15 pts (maybe) & Atlanta will “go in a new direction”. Why cut the guys balls off? Perrin isn’t the first or the last (or even probably the best) player to be *hit on by Atlanta. I’m just saying, the question begs to be asked? Why take a player with such heart (and compared to our roster players) and talent and not let him get a shot? It’s like some cats have 9 lives. Bad passes, bad plays, no problem. But, with all his hussle and heart, I don’t think that Perrin is best suited for the 4th line. At least, not on this team.

By Tom

October 29, 2008 4:05 PM | Link to this

Changing lines seems like rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

I hope I am wrong.

By Mikeyy

October 29, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this

I got a lot to say so I hope this wil be read intently. I have been a devoted thrash fan for over seven years now, watching every game I can through all the losses and last night seemed to be the worst. I went to the game and I do not even know where to begin. I have always stood up for this team but I am finally done. I fuin hate Don Waddell and being one of the few people in this city who were actualy born and raised here, I am disgusted with our “true blue fan base” and ownership. What I mean by this is half of the crowd everytime we play someone outside of the se division is cheering for the other team and all the thrashers fans just laugh it off. Im sitting there in the 3rd period and these annoying philly fans are just rubbing it in my face and Im sorry I could only take so much of it. I just about got in a fight with one of them before we both got kicked out and all I heard from behind me was philly fans yellin kick kovalchuks a* ( my jersey ) and did not hear one NOT ONE thrasher fan stand up for me. This city is heartless and Im done with this crap. Im sorry that I ever stood up and stayed positive cause those days are over. Oh yea and the team is pathetic and I dont care what line changes there are we still blow. we wont get spezza or anyone else so dont even stress over it. Please give me some responsses to this cause I want to hear what the real fans think about our shiy fan base and everything else.

By McArty

October 29, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this

Oh, and Alan (and anyone else in Blueland), if you really believe that JA is coaching the team (and isn’t just a puppet for DW) - I’ll have what you’re having - but make mine a double. It might be JA’s system - but I will bet you the farm that he was told who to put where on this team.

By McArty

October 29, 2008 4:22 PM | Link to this

What BIG shakeup was there in the lines really? It basically is the same top 6 & the PP will be the same. So, you promote Thornburn & demote Perrin. That’s going to do wonders for the team.

I’m baffled by what you all believe defines a good player. It’s it heart and soul or is it pts. A guy can play really well and end up with no pts. A team can outplay the opposition, but still lose the game.

Players that are referred to as great players that you all would want here in Atlanta (like Marek Svatos - oh please), really? Just because a player puts up pts on a team (a la Jason Williams), does that mean they will do the same here? Do they have heart to play (and, for those of you who don’t know - Svatos has the heart of a flea - a well paid flea, but a flea).

By A$G

October 29, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this

SPEZZA…….what are you people on glue! That would cost money. We don’t spend money at b-lose-land. Let the fans spend their money. Buy the tickets and stop whinning. We are not getting any centers. You people have been whinning about a center for years now. No center. No money spent on anything. We will change the lines and that is all. Stop whinning buy a jersey and some tickets. Buy the expensive tickets while your at it. We like to sell those the most!

A$G

By McArty

October 29, 2008 4:32 PM | Link to this

Mikeyy - You’ve got two issues. First of all, you don’t mess w/the Philly fans. Don’t waste your time. Annoying yes - worth getting booted (or arrested for - no). The other. You all worship at the alter of “Kovalchuk”. Do you think he gives two *hits about you spending your hard earned money for his jersey and tickets to see him play? Do you think that if you were broke down at the side of the highway and he drove past you in his Bentley (or his $250,000 Mercedes) that he would even blink? These are the type of players that DW has loaded the team with. They don’t care about you - and they don’t care about each other. Not every one is like that. There are real people, with real families that wanted to become part of the community and give some back - but you will never hear about those stories because bottom line - the organization doesn’t care either.

By A$G

October 29, 2008 4:36 PM | Link to this

MIKEYY……..The A$G suggests you BUY a new jersey with a different name on it. Come down to b-lose-land buy some of the expensive tickets then buy a new jersey or maybe you should buy the jerseys for all the teams (from our shop at phillips) if the other team is winning you just change to that jersey. Don’t start fights that cost us money. Just buy lots of premium beer or mixed drinks to wash away your sorrows.

Sincerely, A$G

By Alan

October 29, 2008 4:38 PM | Link to this

McArty - Uh, sure. You can have some of my root beer? That’s all I have. I did drink some coffee this morning, but it’s gone now. Sorry :(

By McArty

October 29, 2008 4:39 PM | Link to this

Centers? We’ve got good centers (all playing wing). But, that’s not the real issue. To me, if a player is making $5, 6, 7 mil a year, he should be able to do it all (because he’s making more than the 3rd & 4th lines of most teams combined). He should be able to score goals, block shots, kill penalties, be the back up goalie and drive the zamboni between periods! So, the million-dollar investment players begin the whining by complaining to DW that they have no one to play with (never admitting any fault of their own). They do spend $ here, on a select few, and then the others are told that they aren’t worth *hit. How would you feel if you went to work your heart out everyday and were told day in and day out that you aren’t that good - how do you then have the heart to go out and play each game with passion? Some do and still get demoted to the 4th line.

By fanfan

October 29, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this

Nothing is going to help the helpless ice hockey situation in this city. It has happened once before. The culture, southern tradition, long poor management history, etc. No coach can help it. There is no pride, no heart, only one above average player, and he is going to run soon. The good ones do not stay. Atlanta is a southern city, with a southern “take it easy” attitude. No chance for playoffs. And even if so, done in 1st round - as I said less than year ago

By Empty seats

October 29, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this

Amen Tom…

I’m for anything and everything that potentially helps the team win and I know the Coach as to take some action, but wow - the issues and solutions are so much deeper than that.

By A$G

October 29, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this

We care……… We changed the coach We change aaaaaaaah the lines Whe raised the ticket prices

We are turning the corner soon!

We love all of you ticket buyers!

Sincerely, A$G

By fly on the wall

October 29, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this

maybe letemin shouldn’t have stayed out all night drinking in Brookhaven on monday night. just a thought.

By Former STH

October 29, 2008 4:46 PM | Link to this

Line changes? Line changes? Line changes! Are you kidding me!? Average attendance could dip below 11,000 per game and only because of some games during the holiday season will the seats look occupied. DON WADDELL has killed hockey in this town, and you’re asking about LINE CHANGES? Line changes don’t mean a damn thing when you’ve got sub-par talent and no team chemistry. BTW, who is supposed to be the team leader this year? Same old, same old - - s** keeps rolling down hill…

By A$G

October 29, 2008 4:48 PM | Link to this

McArty………. We at the A$G are working on this problem with the 5mil plus players. Don’t worry we will get rid of all those over paid players and replace them with low paid players. Believe me it is in the plan. We will get rid of Kovy as soon as he is an UFA. We like guys that think like you. Low pay!!!!!

Sincerely, ASG

By Nikita

October 29, 2008 4:53 PM | Link to this

What I can’t understand is how everyone seems to agree that Eric Perrin is not better than the 3rd or 4th line?

Like you, I don’t agree. I happen to think Perrin deserves a shot at kicking the same a* he kicked last year. In fact, I’d be thrilled to see him reunited with the Penguins and that line as the 2nd. It worked — why ^%$# with it? Alas, I think Perrin is where he is because of his work ethic — wherever you put him, he does his best to play hard and get his line in order, and I think that’s why Anderson is saddling him with new and/or inexperienced players. but long term I’m not happy about it.

Also, though I agree that there’s no insult in playing on the 4th in Anderson’s system, I’m not happy at the reduced minutes being given to the 4th. The excuse seems to be that everyone else needs conditioning, but arguably there are better ways to get it. Like, say, working their asses off in practice. Plus, what happens if we get injuries or go into lengthy games and the 4th isn’t conditioned for it?

By McArty

October 29, 2008 4:57 PM | Link to this

The problem isn’t so much the pay - it’s the thought that if a guy is making less than he is worth - he is worth less. Just because a guy makes 2.2 mil doesn’t mean he’s better than someone making under a mil - he (in this organization) just gets better and more opportunities! And I disagree that we have sub-par talent. We have some talented players buried beneath those players that DW wants to showcase. It makes me want to puke!

By Sam

October 29, 2008 5:19 PM | Link to this

I have a question of any one of you who attended last night’s game? Was the booing unusally loud? It seemed really loud just watching it on T.V.

Mikey, you can’t buy class. The Philly fans are just as bad in their own home town. Didn’t they boo Santa? It is just the way they are. I think in general, it is pretty harmless. You can’t win. It does irk me that when I attend the Buffalo games, half the fans cheer for Buffalo. Perhaps it is because Atlanta and the southeast have so many transplants. I can only imagine many have dual alliances, but choose to wear their home town jerseys when their team is in town. I always feel somewhat cheated as a Thrasher fan. The events held for the fans are lackluster. You can see the difference in a Colby Armstrong type player with the fans. He comes from the Pittsburgh school of thought where the fans are treated as a big part of the equation. How many times is Dan Kamal without a player on his post radio show? For all of the millions these guys make, would it kill them to join him for 15 minutes, win or lose. Kovy on the ice is a star, but off the ice, he doesn’t do much for the fans. I don’t know why, but compared to an Alex O. or even Evegeni Malkin, he is not what you would call “fan friendly”. Polite, by not friendly.

By Lee

October 29, 2008 6:56 PM | Link to this

Sam, yes the boos were very loud. I agree the Thrashers leading man and star should probably be in the community more, but the team is not promoted the way other teams are in the NHL.

By Mike Knobler

October 29, 2008 7:28 PM | Link to this

Interesting link to Forbes’ ranking of NHL teams’ worth.

By J.S.

October 29, 2008 7:48 PM | Link to this

Former STH is right on. The team just doesn’t have the talent. Worse is that management just doesn’t seem to care. Why should fans care when it is obvious the higher-ups don’t. I’m a rabid fan of the Thrashers, but this kind of hockey is simply painful to watch. In the past, they’d lose, but at least seemed to put forth an honest effort. Last night hurt me as a Thrasher fan, a hockey fan in general and as a resident of Atlanta.

I’m traveling to several cities this year to see this team and I am finding myself wondering why I am going through the expense of following them to Denver, Toronto and Washington, when they (the team, the management and the owners — all of them) won’t even put forth a sincere effort to win.

Last season’s droning calls for Waddell’s head in this space and elsewhere sometimes got on my nerves — even though I agreed with it. Now? Tell me where to sign the petition because he has got to go. So do the lackadaisical owners who refuse to open their wallets to provide quality support for Kovalchuk. Hell, after last night, pretty much the entire team deserves to be fired too. What if you did your job like that day after day after day?

By Don!

October 29, 2008 10:16 PM | Link to this

Wait …

I think the Flyers just scored again.

By Tony C.

October 30, 2008 12:08 AM | Link to this

Ok so, what about the #17’s being shopped rumors?

If/when they trade Kovalchuk, will that affect your support for the club?

Me, you better believe it does. It means that the ineptitude of the Thrasher’s leadership is even worse than all the folks on these blogs have said.

It better not happen.

Also, I’d like to see a line of Sterling, Christensen, Armstrong.

Coach had them together at the end of the game a few games ago, and they were the best looking line we’ve had this season (for those few minutes at the end of the game). Why not give it a whole game?

If it hurts SlavaMatic’s feelings? Well, half-@ss clearing swipes that result in GA hurts my feelings. I hope that Coach’s “come to Jesus” meetings with the guys have the result we all hope for.

GO BLUE !!!

By Brendan

October 30, 2008 12:41 AM | Link to this

Tony C., there are two (2) chances of Kovalchuk being traded: Slim and none. At least as it relates to this season. Don Waddell, trust me, doesn’t want to be remembered as the GM who traded Kovalchuk. The same GM who drafted him 1st overall, in 2001.

There’s virtually no way to recoup the loss of Kovalchuk. Even five (5) first (1st) round draft picks assures NOTHING. Kovalchuks don’t grow on trees. They can’t be replaced. I must acknowledge that if the organization cannot re-sign Kovalchuk on July 1, 2009, or sometime in the that offseason, that Waddell will likely be forced to move Kovalchuk at the trade deadline in 2010.

If that happens, then Waddell will have traded Heatley, Hossa, Coburn and Kovalchuk, all while watching Frank Kaberle and Marc Savard “walk away” for nothing. Alex Bourret, thus far an NHL “no show,” was yet another 1st round draft pick traded by Waddell. This is the NOT the reputation to which Waddell aspired.

By Tony C.

October 30, 2008 12:54 AM | Link to this

oh yeah, what bar didja see KL drinking at fly on the wall…..???

By DR

October 30, 2008 12:58 AM | Link to this

ENOUGH!!! We need to start acting like NY and Philly fans!! We have given enough rope for this franchise. We DESERVE a better team!!! We need players who HAVE to win there is no other option!!! I’m tired of losing 11-1 and 7-0, when do the players say enough and start doing something about it…DW sure isn’t. He couldn’t judge talent in peewee hockey.

By Leaf Fan

October 30, 2008 5:57 AM | Link to this

Tony C, Drinking is a definte issue for KL. If Don Waddell doesn’t realize it, he’s the only one.

By jerry

October 30, 2008 8:13 AM | Link to this

A big puzzle. Why doesn’t the Spirit get all the criticism? If Waddell,Anderson,or the players just don’t have it, who is ultimately responsible? If anyone doesn’t know how to protest poor ownership, you do it with an a$$ and a seat, not a boo.

By Toby

October 30, 2008 8:32 AM | Link to this

On XM’s NHL Live, ex-Tampa Bay Lightning GM Jay Feaster reported a rumour that the Pittsburgh Penguins and Atlanta Thrashers have entered “major” trade discussions.

Let us know what’s up Mike

By ranallo10 (in AT)

October 30, 2008 8:48 AM | Link to this

jerry — I’ve been asking that same question for quite a while now…

By ranallo10 (in AT)

October 30, 2008 8:54 AM | Link to this

Toby — Uh, he’s about 7 months late on that news. I’ll ruin the ending for you…Hossa and Dupuis to Pittsburgh for Christensen, Armstrong, Esposito, and a 2008 1st round draft pick.

By Toby

October 30, 2008 9:04 AM | Link to this

Ranallo You gave away the ending!! Now…if we can only trade Coburn for a veteran defender…..Hmmmmmmmmmm

By Empty Seats

October 30, 2008 9:18 AM | Link to this

Agreed J.S. - As a former STH it’s not winning the loose pucks, losing battles along the boards, sloppy passes, lack of physical play, etc. - the overall lack of execution of the fundamentals that disappoints me as a fan.

The business and management of a National Hockey League franchise - well that’s an entirely different and no less disappointing story. Certainly DW’s record speaks for itself, but when it comes to the performance of this organization, his 9 bosses are a bigger joke.

Let’s say the fire DW. Fine, who do they hire? Yes, yes I know there are several good people out there and anyone is better than the current guy, but that’s not the question. The question is - who actually agrees to come down here into this situation with the skills and experience to advance the franchise? Next question - does the ASG provide the necessary resources and control to the new leader, or do they continue to hamstring the business?

Saviors aren’t easy to come by and the longer the situation remains the same, the more complicated it becomes.

I’m staying tuned, because it’s going to be interesting…

By Bob (other)

October 30, 2008 9:46 AM | Link to this

It continues to amze me how about a dozen or so people (the same ones over and over) continue to be so negative. Lets’ look at the facts:

Yes, no playoff wins. Yes toward the bottom of the league last year and this. Yes ,only 6 games under .500 last year (not 20-60). Attendance is down 9% (not 60% as some would suggest).

More facts: As posted on Forbes updated NHL economics, team lost $6M last year. In fact, every SE Division team lost money last year, except TB, which only had a $1M operating profit.

For those that want ASG to spend to the cap? why? want the owners to take a hit for about $2M each? That would be stupid.

It’s early. The ownership, management, coaches and players don’t view this as a build year.We have as good a chance as any other team to win, notwithstanding the poor showing last game.

The year TB won the cup, WE led the Division at Christmas. TB got hot. The year Carolina won, they got hot and switched goaltenders in the playoffs and Ward got hot.(by the way, we beat them 9-1 on their ice that year) NJ went on a run a couple years ago to win their division late…got hot. (HOF goaltender certainly helped)

The common denominator for all these and more, starts with strong goaltending and a team that really comes together at the right time. Look at OTT last year. Started hot, missed playoffs.

The sky is not falling folks. There are still 13,000+ seats being SOLD, we are not last in attendance, but close (look it up),the last two home games are only off about 3% from 4 and 5 last year.

DW is not going anywhere, ASG is not going anywhere, the Thrashers aren’t moving, Kovy is not leaving.( he is under contract for two years and will be offered league max for 10yrs plus).

We need to be patient with Anderson, he said January before everything was expected to be set to his liking. Our overall effort has been better and we have been in every game. (even Philly as you may recall was only 2-0 late in 2nd before we imploded)

There is plenty of season left. I will choose to support the team and stay rational.

By h

October 30, 2008 9:57 AM | Link to this

trade rumors just crack me up. I’d be shocked if we made ANY deals with Pitt in the near future. I think overall, most Pens fans think that they got screwed in Hossa deal….so I’d be shocked if their management would “try again” with DW…..a “major trade”? c’mon…..they don’t need a goalie, so the only “major trade” would involve Kovy…..If you’re Pitt….who do you give up? makes no sense…..

By Lew318

October 30, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this

Well, this is my first post this year and I was hoping after the off season, the addition of a new coach and system and some “new” blood as well as two knee replacements that there would be something better to write about. Here we are in last place in our division.

At times the new system seems to work, but for whatever reason we cannont put the puck in the net nor can we hold on to a lead.

The team looks frustrated, Kovi is doing a great imitation of Hossa (last year) and the fans are staying home. We are in our 9th year of a five year plan and we seem to be going no where.

No one wants to lose, but I just don’t think our coach has been given the horses to win. This team as those in the past talks a good game, but for whatever reason does not walk a good game. We just don’t know how to win.

This has the makings of a longer season than last year.

By Lew318

October 30, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this

Bob: I hope you are right!!! Lew

By brian

October 30, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this

All I can say about that game is i would have liked to see someone get nasty. When i played my coach would tell us to hurt someone if they tried to block a shot take the shot if they get hurt so be it. after that game was 6-0 i think we should have went head hunting. Also i have not been to a game this year but when i do if you support an opposing team you will not celebrate in front of me when your team scores. I will sit you down phillips has long been a safe haven for other team fans. No mercy lets escort them out on stretchers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Toby

October 30, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this

Bob I agree with you in that I will continue to support the team and watch the puck drop whenever they play. I also agree that it’s early this season and we still have chances to hit a hot streak and get back in this.

That said…

Yes, no playoff wins. Yes toward the bottom of the league last year and this.

I think we are under-estimating this statement. The Thrashers are in their 11th season in a league where 50% of the teams make the post season, and we have made it once with zero wins. I think there has to be a breaking point with fans and I think it’s been reached.

In an offseason where some of our major fixes was to sign our franchise goalie to a 1 year deal, sign Jason Williams to a 1 year deal, and resign Eric Boulton, I believe the STH’s of years past have hit a breaking point…and rightfully so.

After reviewing the Thrash history and where we are today, I would be more upset if we all didn’t criticize the management of this team and kept saying “The sky is not falling folks”.

By Steely Dan

October 30, 2008 10:47 AM | Link to this

Yes, no playoff wins You could have stopped there, Bob (other).

Yes toward the bottom of the league last year and this As was the case for 5 of the eight years in the team’s “storied” history.

Attendance is down 9% (not 60% as some would suggest) The 9% is overall attendance. The 60% has to do with season ticket sales. Both are accurate numbers.

The year TB won the cup, WE led the Division at Christmas Well, if they gave away trophies for “partial” season champs, we would have won it that year. We would have also won it last year on Feb. 15th.

Look at OTT last year. Started hot, missed playoffs Uh, actually, they MADE the playoffs, but were outsted in 4 games in the first round. That’s quite a “stendecian” error on your part.

There are still 13,000+ seats being SOLD Not something to get happy about seeing that Philips holds over 18,000 for hockey games. And it that number, they are counting tickets that have been given away.

DW is not going anywhere Which is why none of the above will ever change.

By h

October 30, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this

Toby make that the 9th season……just feels like 11 seasons

By Thrash

October 30, 2008 10:51 AM | Link to this

Bogosian injury update:

Fractured fibula, out indefinitely

By Toby

October 30, 2008 10:57 AM | Link to this

h Oops…Good call.

By NASCAR Dave

October 30, 2008 11:44 AM | Link to this

BOGOSIAN is out 6 weeks with a fractured Fibula (MIKE VICK??)…

Time for BORIS! BORIS! BORIS! At least he’ll Drop Em!!!

By Brendan

October 30, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this

Well, Ottawa almost missed the playoffs. They got in more by “default” than anything else. Ottawa’s Coach actually accused the Penguins of ‘throwing’ their final game to Philadelphia to secure the #2 seed, so that Pittsburgh could face #7 Ottawa, instead of winning their final game, being the #1 seed, and havin to face Philadelphia or #8 Boston. With the Flyer win, Philly moved up to #6, to face #3 Washington, whom they upset in seven games, in overtime. I might add, they knocked off the top-seeded Habs in the second round to advance to the CF. I actually would have let Bob(Other) get away with that one, on the basis of “poetic license.” Ottawa’s playoff performance was rather forgettable. It kinda, sorta felt like they missed the playoffs. But I digress.

There is a sentiment out there, of optimism, that I agree with. Other than the Minnesota, Detroit, and Philadelphia games, all the others have been competitive and winnable games. Up 2-0 on Boston, I thought we were looking at a win. Even in the Detroit game, where we were noticeably outmatched, the guys rallied to get it to 4-3, from 4-1, to make it an intriguing final 3+ minutes. An empty-netter sealed our fate. In the Tampa Bay game, we got that late goal on a deflection to salvage a point. We did beat Buffalo, which is a surprisingly good team this year.

Believe it or not, the Thrashers actually do ‘halfway decent’ against the Broadway Blueshirts at the Gahden. Just, ya know, not in playoff games. Bobby Holik used to reserve his best games of the season while playing there. Jim Slater is not known for his offensive prowess, but he also tends to have his better efforts against the Rangers. If we lose this one 8-2, or something, perhaps more screaming is in order.

If you’re not of the persuasion to believe this is a “build year (TM, poster Bob, all rights reserved,)” then the New York Rangers and New Jersey Devils certainly represent “litmus tests” to see how we measure up. Go Thrashers!

By Danny

October 30, 2008 12:04 PM | Link to this

Brenden I am confused. You say it’s a build year, but I have never heard that from Thrashers Mgmt,and bob(other) who I guess works for the Spirit or something even confirmed that Mgmt doesn’t see this as a build year.If the fans are willing to deal with a build year why does the Mgmt deny it?

By Bob

October 30, 2008 12:19 PM | Link to this

There are still 13,000+ seats being SOLD

No there’s not. How can you continue to make a fool out of yourself with these ludicrous claims? The announced attendance is not tickets sold. It includes giveaways, which run in the thousands. We all have eyes, Bob. Reports are that on Tuesday night, the Thrashers people were up in the 300s pulling people down to the lower sections so it wouldn’t look so completely empty on national TV.

Bogo with the broken leg is not good, not good at all. We only have Schneider until the deadline, we need Bogo on the ice with him as much as possible to get experience. Man, if it wasn’t for bad luck…

By Brendan

October 30, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this

They’ve got to try to sell tickets, Danny. Running an ad that reads, “Attention Atlanta-area hockey fans. Our only option left is trying out some new players this season. Watch our young prospects develop with a pair of tickets to Blueland” isn’t a really ‘catchy ad-campaign.’ You’ve got to see it for what it is. I’d be thrilled if this young lineup could gel and learn the new system quickly, and develop YEARS AHEAD OF SCHEDULE. Fine by me. But it’s not really fair or reasonable to expect playoffs from this lineup. Check out a few preseason media outlets for projected finishes this year. Sports Illustrated has us 13th in the Conference, Hockey News, about the same. CBS.SPORTSLINE.com, not much difference. ESPN Hockey Preview, and so forth. I’ve forgotten what TSN projected for us. But emanating from Canada, I’ll just assume it’s not good. Knowing that bias, 29th place sounds about right.

I applaud DW for giving our prospects this chance to develop. In previous years, Danny, he’d just go hire some 32-year old retread, at an inflated price, to fill a roster spot. Instead, guys like Sterling, Bogosian, and maybe even Valabik, now that Bogosian is injured, will get a chance to play. And develop. I had hoped that Pavelec would also get a chance to develop this year.

But the LARGER POINT IS THIS: No ownership or management EVER sold a bunch of seats by announcing, “We’re a sub-par product. Come see us anyway!” It just doesn’t work like that. And it never will. Really, truly, that statement won’t be forthcoming. Instead, advertising around the league usually emphasizes something like, “come out and see our star players!” Kari Lehtonen and Ilya Kovalchuk have been on AirTran Airways billboards.

Also, check out the team payroll, Danny. It’s one of the lowest in the league. More often that not, the cliche is true: “You get what you pay for.” The website is www.nhlnumbers.com. As you’ll see, the Thrashers have $10+ million in cap space. If it weren’t a “build year,” wouldn’t you think the salary figures would be a bit higher, and closer to the cap limit? If you’re looking for intent on the part of ownership, payroll is an excellent place to start. Unfortunately, the sports agents who represent Tier I players study team payrolls and trends in team payrolls. What message does our payroll tell them? Do we appear to be an organization ‘committed’ to ‘doing WHATEVER it takes’ to win a Stanley Cup, year in and year out?” In fairness to this ownership, it probably isn’t a good idea to spend to the hilt while you’re trying to develop young talent. In short, it’s not prudent to spend like a booze hound on a bender … in a “build year.” I think they’re trying to build through the draft. It’s not a popular strategy with fans, Danny … precisely because it requires patience. And after a decade of promises, patience has worn a bit thin. But I’m okay with it, since I think building through the draft, coupled with player development, reflect the smartest way to build a team for longterm success, in a true “window of opportunity.”

By SC DAWG

October 30, 2008 12:48 PM | Link to this

I hate to say it but its time to either get new ownership or back up the truck!

By Old Time Hockey

October 30, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this

You can’t judge a team by one very bad loss. Every team has those games. The real judge of the team and the coaches will be how they react in the next game. You can see what JA is trying to do, but they are not comfortable yet and you see the result as hesitation. They need to focus on the small battles within the game. They have to believe that they can win the race for the puck and hustle. They are waiting for the game to come to them. You see a lot of gliding around waving their sticks trying to intercept passes instead of getting on top of the opposition and force them to make a play. When you see every player skating hard on every shift this team will look pretty good. If they continue to react instead of dictate it won’t change.

By dhj_1962

October 30, 2008 1:21 PM | Link to this

never havs kl in net against the flyers again. never…

By ZB

October 30, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this

“Become One in Blueland”

Who knew the marketing team was talking about game attendance?

By c.hall

October 30, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this

I have been a fan from the beginning. After moving 3 years ago I have watched every game on “Centre Ice”. This team is playing hard and getting the most out of the talent. We just don’t have enough talent, that’s not the coach or the players fault. I’m tired of being in a re-building year after the first six games every season. How patient do you want the fans to be? Judge the GM by the results, he should not have been coaching last year and then pick the guy you already had! Do your job and improve this team!!

By Nikita

October 30, 2008 1:53 PM | Link to this

Good thing we traded Larsen, and not just for the obvious reasons. He’s on the IR with an abdominal strain.

By Tony C.

October 30, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this

Brendan-

I’m with you, #17 should never be traded, but let’s look at the guys calling the shots-not exactly archetypes of “hockey knowledge” (from what we’ve been shown).

Plus the rumors won’t go away-and not just from the usul frostback “southern US hockey is an abomination” types either.

Two Russian papers have run stories about “Kovalchuk to transfer from woodpeckers” (guess that’s how “thrashers” translates)…. and of course everybody’s favorite hack eklund has it updated daily.

but if we could get Spezza for Pavelec and a 1st rounder (next year) OR 2nd, 3rd & prospect to be named, I think I would pull the trigger on that. Hell, send ‘em Williams as well.

I dunno. I just saw a lot of “old Thrashers” action on display on Tuesday. While I have a lot of faith in our coaching staff, t say I have little faith in the GM/Ownership is a MASSIVE understatement.

GO BLUE !!!

By Lazarus

October 30, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this

Uh oh,so the game tonight is not at Boo-Hoo Land??We don’t get to see all the Boos at Boo-hoo Land because people actually go to Ranger games.But they will still probly have the same Boo Boos as in Boo-Hoo Land,how sad.

By Tony C.

October 30, 2008 2:14 PM | Link to this

wow apologies for all the typos….

Also, Old Time Hockey has a great point-put my “old Thrashers” habits into words-the boys aren’t forcing the other guy to make a play.

That what was such a pleasant surprise in the first 3 games-our guys were hustling, hitting, and even though they may be smurfy-going into the corners with a will.

“Old Thrashers” don’t do that; they do a lot of what we saw on Tuesday; wave their stick in a passing lane, and hope the puck bounces out of the corner from inertia.

Oy!

In something close to good news, we get to see what real #1 pivots look like tonight…if this Shanahan things blows up, maybe, maybe DW gets the gumption (and the green light) to make a move for Gomez (yes I’m still dreaming).

GO BLUE !!!

By Bob (other)

October 30, 2008 2:20 PM | Link to this

For the record, I did omit “almost” from my prior post about Ottawa.Also, no intention for “mid season trophies”. You missed the point which was hot teams in the 2nd half, seemingly coming out of nowhere, largely driven by terrific goaltending.

Bob, you continue to amaze. You are the master of hearsay and innuendo. I for one am sick of it and so are a few others. Why dont you go post on the Wings site since you kiss up to the quitter Hossa all the time.

The official attendance is just that, OFFICIAL. You can argue forever, but you admit you haven’t been there, so how do you really know? Attendance is down 9% YTD. Down 3% fpr last 2 games as compared to a year ago. You keep referring to “hearsay-60% STH non renewals. All the people around me since 1999 have renewed. Add up the seats and its $300K. I never said the whole section renewed.

You are just an antagonistic Idiot. That’s clearly why the NHL offices and every league franchise is knocking on your door for advice.

Go Away. Your moronic diatribes anre really getting old. There are other teams below us in attendance as was the case last year. We were 6 games under .500, not say the equivalent of a 3-13 football team. Get a grip.

You couldn’t hold DW’s ….well anything.

THe ASG is made up of smart, wealthy people. They didn’t get that way by making poor decisions. It is a business first. You don’t seem to get that. Rutherford Seydell is at just about every game…so he does care, he is also a fan, has been since he grew up here.

You yak but don’t support, which is your right, but it is like if you don’t vote, then don’t complain.

Moron.

By Bob (other)

October 30, 2008 2:29 PM | Link to this

Tony C. -agree Ilya should not be traded. Too valuable. He is a franchise player and there are only a few of those. He cannot be replaced. He’ll get offered a league max contract, the only question will be the length. So for arguement’s sake, he re-signs here for $100M+ or goes elsewhere for a lot less (like half). The only way another team can offer him max is to have cap room (which would be generally lower standing teams…like us so far) or an “elite” team that would have to shed players to be able to do it.

He’ll take the money and stay here is my bet. Probably about $30M-$50M difference between here and somewhere else.That’s a big reality.

By Brendan

October 30, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this

I share your sentiment on the GM/ownership situation, Tony C. And, I recognize that Spezza is a tremendous “known commodity” player compared to the unproven Pavelec. But, can you answer me this question: “Is Kari out of the woods? That is, can we COMPLETELY DEPEND ON LEHTONEN, such that a 5-7 year contract should be in the offering next summer?”

If forced to answer that question, I’d say, “No. Kari’s still unproven. But he’s getting ever closer to becoming the goaltender his draft position indicated. I’d rather have Pavelec as an insurance policy. Not to mention that Kari-Pavs is the 1-2 punch the team needs for the future.”

Also, does Jason Spezza have ANY interest, whatsoever in coming to Atlanta? If the answer is “no,” then trading for a player whose heart and interests lie ELSEWHERE may not be the best way to proceed. There’s no chance for an exit for Spezza from Blueland, given his contract. And, once again, who does their BEST WORK while depressed or demoralized? I’ve always felt is was best to cultivate your own draft picks. The players WANT to prove themselves. And the players WANT to show the GM that drafted them to be CORRECT for having made their selection.

I don’t feel Pavelec is unhappy about playing for Atlanta. I feel he is disappointed that he’s not being given the opportunity to play in the NHL this year. And if called up, to stay, would be very pleased to be a part of the Thrashers. All he wants, in my view, is his opportunity. There’s nothing wrong with Moose up in the pressbox. Moose won’t be crying, “I thought I’d get 40 starts this year. I’m trying to hit my numbers for my next contract.” No, he GOT his contract in June. He’s a ‘total team player,’ in every sense. Sit ‘im in the pressbox, he smiles politely. Call him down for a start every 11th game, he’s grateful for that start. And then goes right back to the pressbox, smiling all the way.

If Pavelec were traded away, I’d be very upset, Tony C. There is absolutely NO REASON to trade him. He very well might turn out to be BETTER than Kari, down the road. It’s one thing if Pavelec asks for the trade. And hopefully, that would be done privately, allowing the GM to find the best possible value in the exchange. Hopefully, Pavelec never asks for a trade.

By Bob (other), soon to be posting as Bob

October 30, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this

Hey Bob, one more thing. I am going to take back the name Bob for the post because…well….you give the name a bad name.

By Steely Dan

October 30, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this

Sounds like Bob(other), or could we just call him, Bother didn’t get his nap and is quite cranky!

The only “moron”, besides stendec, (a.k.a. tommysteele), seems to be you when you try and tell us there are 13,000 in the arena when anyone with two eyes can plainly see there isn’t. Official numbers or no, what counts is who and how many take the time and trouble to walk through the doors. Attendance is down because there are many people who do not choose to spend their money supporting a team that refuses to fire the most incompetent GM in the league.

period. Deal with it.

As for why no one is knocking down any doors for Bob to GM this or any other team…..let’s just say that he could have won just as many playoffs games in 8 seasons as Don Waddell has.

Look I know it’s a bit painful for you as people are trying to pull your head out of you butt. Really must hurt considering just how far up it that it seems to be. But once it’s out, I promise you will be able to see much clearer than you obvioulsy do now.

Trust us. This is for your own good.

By Bob

October 30, 2008 3:05 PM | Link to this

Steely Dan. Attendance is listed for every game and the official attendance is down 9%. You are the one needing the get air. I have never said attendance is not down. It’s just not as down as many are describing here. Attendance is captured and that is what counts.

Perhaps you are Bob in disquise. Posts have same style. Stupid. But you are entitled to your opinion.

I contunue to choose to go with my full STH. If you guys want to be crtical of that you can.

It is an entertainment business, like any professional sports franchise.

Pretty simple really. Still enough demand to support it. Guess that makes some of you upset.

By Steely Dan

October 30, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this

Actually, no. I am not bob. Just someone who get a good chucle out of someone who is trying to tell us that all is well with this franchise, when clearly it is not.

I love hockey and the Thrasher. I do not doubt you do as well. But when the obvious is sitting out there for all to see, (attendance is WAY down in regards to who is showing up), then don’t jerk us around by trying to say it ain’t so.

By Bob

October 30, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this

THe ASG is made up of smart, wealthy people

lol. Of course they are, Bob, their record of owning these clubs proves it, eh? (just smile and wave at bob other, folks, just smile and wave).

Hey Bob, one more thing. I am going to take back the name Bob for the post because…well….you give the name a bad name

Don’t worry, your brilliant takes can be seen a mile away, no matter what name you use. “ASG is made up of smart people”, then there’s “Sec. 116 investors all renewed”, and of course the highly insightful “season ticket sales aren’t down 60%, they’re barely down at all” lol

You couldn’t hold DW’s ….well anything

That’s ok, I really don’t have any desire to hold Waddell’s anything … you seem to be doing a very good job of that yourself.

Just someone who get a good chucle out of someone who is trying to tell us that all is well with this franchise, when clearly it is not

Steely (nice name by the way, saw them up at the new amphitheater this summer, good show), I really hope he sticks around, you can’t pay for comedy gold like this guy brings. And Lord knows we all need the laughs to be able to follow this club.

By Old Time Hockey

October 30, 2008 4:51 PM | Link to this

From what I saw of Pavelec last year he is much more fundamentally sound than Lehtonen. Kari relies on his talent, which is exceptional, but that is why he gives up crap goals periodically, from being out of position. Didn’t see that in Pavelec’s brief stint with the team.

By Sage of Bluesland

October 31, 2008 8:56 PM | Link to this

“…That’s ok, I really don’t have any desire to hold Waddell’s anything … you seem to be doing a very good job of that yourself….”

Amen, Bob. To read the tripe from some of the sheeple is wonderfully entertaining…but, it does get old sometimes…How some can be so oblivious to the obvious never ceases to amaze me.

And for the person who suggested more show up at the ‘nasty nest’…I’ll pass on that, umm, “honor”. Unless you want sheep feces all over you, then by all means…Some of them actually thank the organization for the, umm, “chocolate” being fed them!

I’ll pass. I like living in reality more.