Thrashers

By kat

May 7, 2008 1:56 PM | Link to this

Please, Please, PLEASE!!!

By GaVaHokie

May 7, 2008 2:03 PM | Link to this

Excellent… I think that’s more than anyone could ask for. If there’s anything to be said about Waddell, he protects the bottom line and he has great connections. What MOST fans want here is someone who can be a better judge of talent.

By R. Stroz

May 7, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this

Sounds like DW moves up to Bernie’s job and the Thrashers get a new GM and coach.

By Portland Thrashers

May 7, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this

Face it-the Spirit are trying to dump the teams by driving down attendance. Thrashers move to Portland and the Hawks go to Seattle after the Sonics leave. who really wants to see the Hawks-basket ball is boring! Ticket prices are outrageous and fans would rather put gas in their cars than to pay these clown’s salary. Face it-the face of teh avg BBall player is that of a thug-jsut like some of the falcons who run aroudn with “Free Mike Vick” T shirts. Thugs-that go into the stands and beat up the fans. Thugs-getting arrested for pot and other stuff. They are over paid and most don’t have a college degree that would get them a real job after they play. i predict in 3-4 yrs-the teams are gone.

By Brendan

May 7, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this

Retaining Don Waddell as GM is an “indefensible” decision. And likewise, retaining him in ANY managerial capacity, even as an “advisor,” fails to achieve real change. Until the CZAR is officially removed from any and all decision-making process, nothing meaningful will change.

I’d be perfectly fine with Waddell joining the broadcast team. I’d be 100% comfortable with that. Straining a bit, he could work the public relations side of things. But, because INFORMAL POWER is a reality in business, he cannot be allowed to “linger” within the decision-making process, like Mike Milbury did with the NY Isles, after his “firing.”

It’s best to treat it like a “bandaid,” and rip it right off, in one fell swoop. That’s how EVERYONE, and I do mean EVERYONE knows … that it’s a NEW DAY in Blueland. And there’s a new Sheriff in town. And the new Sheriff has to have TOTAL CONTROL, from the hiring of an equipment manager to the decision about trading Kovalchuk or re-signing him.

If real change is desired, Don Waddell must clear out his desk. Period, the end. Anything other than that, and the organization might as well retain him as GM. Which, again, is a gutless, indefensible sports decision, even if it makes PERFECT BUSINESS SENSE. Fans don’t care about profitablility. They just want to see an on-ice product that was worth leaving their homes to witness live, in the flesh.

By dopghj

May 7, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this

the atlanta spirit is just like the military when it comes to the high ranking guys - screw up and move up

By five_hole

May 7, 2008 2:23 PM | Link to this

Sounds like a perfect example of the business environment. If the person in a given position is proven to be incompetent, but is well liked by management, promote him.

I’m hoping that we can find a coach before the draft. I would think that whomever the Thrashers get as a coach would want to have input there.

By NASCAR Dave

May 7, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this

I agree 100% with BRENDAN’S post.

There is no sense in keeping Waddell around. For ANYTHING!

We need to FIRE Don FRAUDell and make him DONE Waddell!!!

NUFF SAID.

By dugoutAK

May 7, 2008 2:34 PM | Link to this

WooooooHooooooooooo!

By Matthew

May 7, 2008 2:36 PM | Link to this

I hear Paul Maurice is available …

By Bob

May 7, 2008 2:38 PM | Link to this

If real change is desired, Don Waddell must clear out his desk. Period, the end. Anything other than that, and the organization might as well retain him as GM. Which, again, is a gutless, indefensible sports decision, even if it makes PERFECT BUSINESS SENSE. Fans don’t care about profitablility. They just want to see an on-ice product that was worth leaving their homes to witness live, in the flesh

Yep. 100% spot on. If they move Waddell up and bring this junior coach up and give him the GM/Coach position, that will be beyond a joke.

How can Gearon say they respect Waddell’s ability to manage an organ-I-zation? Well, I guess I can understand how he can say it, it means he and the other owners are not competent to own sports clubs.

Waddell has mismanaged everything in this organization. Look at the relationship he set up with Chicago, it’s a joke. Look at the pro and amateur scouting departments he’s built, both are woefully pitiful. Curt Fraser as our first coach (Wild get Jacques LeMaire). Damian Rhodes as his first big contract to build the club out from? He’s screwed it up from the get go.

The ONLY thing I take heart in is that Gearon recognizes that there’s more holes in the Thrashers than in the Hawks, and this was said at a press conference talking about the void at the Hawks GM position.

So, that’s great that they know they need a new GM, but Waddell can’t have any part of that decision or any authority over that GM, or it’ll be for naught and you might as well leave him at GM.

Promote incompetent managers, great idea. What is this, Enron?

By Jeff

May 7, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this

The problems with the Tharashers management is similar to that of the old Hartford Whalers. I grew up in Connecticut and loved the Whalers, but because of poor management choices and and the inability to keep and hold onto great players the interest in the team died, and so did the fan base. Now they are flourishing in Carolina as the Hurricanes. Living in Atlanta the last 2 years We have become ardent fans of the Thrashers. How lucky we are to have a professional hockey team. I hope better decisons are made in order to preserve the team. I would hate to see what happend to the Whalers happen here in Atlanta.

By Jeff

May 7, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this

The problems with the Tharashers management is similar to that of the old Hartford Whalers. I grew up in Connecticut and loved the Whalers, but because of poor management choices and and the inability to keep and hold onto great players the interest in the team died, and so did the fan base. Now they are flourishing in Carolina as the Hurricanes. Living in Atlanta the last 2 years We have become ardent fans of the Thrashers. How lucky we are to have a professional hockey team. I hope better decisons are made in order to preserve the team. I would hate to see what happend to the Whalers happen here in Atlanta.

By GaVaHokie

May 7, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this

Of course, the only one in the organization that has any clue who would be the best replacement for GM would be… Don Waddell… and the only person in the organization who knows how to get at the right coaches is… Don Waddell.

I would much rather have Waddell shopping for our next GM than Levenson.

By MoveOn

May 7, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this

Recommendation: clean house and get rid of all these morons in management and coaching with the hawks and thrashers. Losing every year is evidence of incompetence. There is much better talent out there than the idiots running these teams. Will they make major changes? Of course not—-that’s why Atlanta is called loserville.

By scottBravesFan

May 7, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this

Waddell needs to be fired. He is just as bad as Billy Knight. The guy can’t draft to save his life.

By ranallo10

May 7, 2008 2:59 PM | Link to this

I’m not one for “I told ya so”, but I definitely have this odd feeling of having said this before…about a week after Mullins left.

Brendan, was it you I discussed this with?

By Alan

May 7, 2008 3:25 PM | Link to this

Promote incompetent managers, great idea. What is this, Enron?

Perhaps it’s an attempt to save face from giving Waddell an extension. Yeah, I realize we don’t know whether he received that extension or not; however, in the event that he did, would you prefer the ASG pay him to do nothing, or to sit at a desk and pretend that he is being taken seriously, ala Mullin?

Hmm. This could go either way.

By R. Stroz

May 7, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this

ranallo10 - I believe you are correct about Waddell filling Mullin’s former position.

Unlike Knight, Waddell is a good people person and doesn’t sound demented when he speaks.

The question is this: in the words of Rawhide will DW go for having his @$$ Rich McKay’ed?

By kracker

May 7, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this

I guess until actual moves are made, I’ll reserve final judgment. However, I can’t see us signing a top GM and coach if DW is still making the important hockey & player decisions. I am OK with him doing the business side of it and being a glad-hander for the team but nothing that directly affects the on-ice product. He gets involved in player contract structuring only as it applies to running the business. Don has had his day on team building and that phase of his career must be over or the season ticket base will continue to deterioate.

By Bob

May 7, 2008 3:48 PM | Link to this

I realize we don’t know whether he received that extension or not

I think it’s pretty safe to assume he got the extension. There’s no other rational explanation on why he still has a job.

If you look at it purely as a business decision, in dollars and cents, it’s a bad decision to retain someone that you now know is incompetent. It’s called throwing good money after bad. You made a bad investment, you don’t keep it around and let it keep dragging you down. You take your loss, eat the money, and go pay a competent guy to come in and turn things around. Otherwise, it’s being penny wise and pound foolish to think you’re saving $500k or whatever they pay Waddell if that decision costs them millions in ticket and potential playoff revenue that a good GM could bring you.

By HockeyDawg

May 7, 2008 4:01 PM | Link to this

I’m right there with you guys. There’s absolutely NO WAY Waddell should be allowed to remain in any capacity that has anything to do with personnel or the on-ice product. R Stroz made a good point, though - Waddell is pretty good with people, interacts well with the press, and is generally well-liked (albeit not well respected personnel-wise) around the league. So maybe Donny could handle the business end of the team. But we ABSOLUTELY MUST bring in a general manager who can actually evaluate talent and hire a coach who will put a far better product on the ice than what we saw this year.

Based on the support from the business community here, I don’t think we’re in any danger of losing this team right now. But another year or two like this year, the season ticket base will erode to nothing, business support will disappear, and we’ll be saying buh-bye to hockey again. And none of us want that!

By Alan

May 7, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this

Bob - I merely threw that out there from their perspective. Were I the owner, I would have fired him in November. It’s not too late even now to can his a*. But from their (the ASG) perspective, they may want to feel like they’re getting their money’s worth, rather than pay Waddell to go fishing and hunting somewhere.

I wonder. If Waddell is as good at hunting as he is at acquiring top UFAs, would the ASG be off the hook for his salary should he shoot and kill himself?

By Rutuger

May 7, 2008 4:07 PM | Link to this

The NHL is still around? Who knew!

By GaVaHokie

May 7, 2008 4:13 PM | Link to this

Under that rationale, why wouldn’t Bob Hartley be directing Community Relations or something?

I think, again, the easiest explanation is the right one… they actually DO respect what Waddell brings to the table.

By Bob

May 7, 2008 4:31 PM | Link to this

If Waddell is as good at hunting as he is at acquiring top UFAs, would the ASG be off the hook for his salary should he shoot and kill himself?

Mabye he could go huntin with Dick Cheney?

By Christy

May 7, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this

Maybe they are hoping for a version of what the Falcons now have. Rich Mckay/Donw Wadell having good contacts around the league, competition committee, etc., a new bright and dynamic General Manager, yet to be id’d a la Thomas Dmitroff and then the new coach…

seems like the new template for Atlanta sports…

By ranallo10

May 7, 2008 5:19 PM | Link to this

Bob — Are you sure you want him in the ear of somebody that “powerful”?

If the ASG has seriously been dragging their feet for this long, only to turn around and fire him, it continues to highlight their incompetence. You don’t need to finish a season with a GM in place, the team can lose without one. You hire an interim GM to take over the final operations of the organization, and you fire him so that you can begin your hiring process IMMEDIATELY.

I seriously doubt the ASG will fire Waddell, and would be surprised if they didn’t elevate him to Mullin’s position so that he’s in hockey operations but is a go-between for the new GM and ownership group. Him in that capacity would simply be a person whom the new GM could speak with that has first-hand experience in such a position. Scheurholz is doing the same thing for the Braves (of course, he’s an infinitely better GM than Waddell).

By THE FISH

May 7, 2008 5:25 PM | Link to this

“don’t want to spread don too thin”….???????? Are you freaking kidding me??!?!?! They should spread him thin like peanut butter!!! FIRE THE BUM!!!!!!!!!!

By diego

May 7, 2008 5:39 PM | Link to this

There’s no good excuse of why we should be better than Pittsburgh. Only a few years ago they were bankrupt and looking to move, now they are about to go to the finals.

Losing Savard was a bigger loss than Heatley. Heatley needed to go and we got Hossa. Too bad we couldn’t get Hossa to play like he is now in Pittsburgh.

The Thrashers need some veterans who can play and will be a positive influence in the locker room. We also need DEFENSE… DEFENSE… DEFENSE. We have a great young goalie but it’s not fair if he is trying to stop wide open shots. If Kovalchuk wants to be compared with Crosby and Ozveckin then he better start playing both sides of the puck.

A real coach wouldn’t hurt either.

By kracker

May 7, 2008 5:51 PM | Link to this

GaVa It doesn’t have to be either DW or Levenson picking a new GM. If DW is gone, the as yet unhired (as far as we know) hockey elder/mentor that the ASG said at the STH meeting they were considering hiring can tell them who to woo for GM.

By David

May 7, 2008 5:58 PM | Link to this

I think having DW around as like president of hockey operations or something is a great idea.

On a side note Craig do you think Paul Maurice will be considered a candidate for the coaching position here?

By LAC

May 7, 2008 6:02 PM | Link to this

don waddell is TERRIBLE, why in the HELL would anyone want waddell to work for them !

waddell is a LOSER in every aspect !

He should beFIRED Period and that be that. We cannot have him ruin the Thrashers any longer.

These Stupid owners cannot be that DUMB can they ??? I say They Are !

By MB

May 7, 2008 6:26 PM | Link to this

Okay, I’m going to take the glass half full approach.

Here we have an owner saying that the hockey side of the organization needs a lot of work, more even than the basketball side (inspiring home playoff performance aside, it wasn’t exactly a banner year for the Hawks).

That’s much better than previous comments indicating that everything’s fine and we’re right on schedule.

The desire to have D-Wadd gone is beyond well-documented, but it doesn’t sound like it’s in the cards right now.

If that’s the case, and it sounds like it is, wouldn’t you rather have him relegated to the business side of the operation while the ASG brings in someone else, presumably a GM, to run the hockey operations, followed by a new coach?

Ideal? No. Better than what we have now? Almost certainly.

By Sara

May 7, 2008 7:14 PM | Link to this

Personally, I think this is a GREAT idea. Management is about more than just the team roster…it covers a wide array of areas that Waddell likely exceeds at. Where he seems to be the weakest…assessing talent (although sometimes I think he knows exactly what he’s getting - it’s just all he can afford).

Here’s the thing. You bring in a new GM and new coaching staff. Don is at the top of that chain but removed from the regular personnel decisions. He’s there to make both organizations run effectively and make sure GMs are staying within their budgets, etc etc. New GM realizes the obvious - this team has to be willing to spend some money on players, whether right now or a few years into a new re-build. He takes it to Donny who is respected by the owners, and TWO of them can present their case and maybe get these yahoos to get with the program.

As much as some of you hate Waddell, the facts are he does a lot of things right from a management stand-point and he is well respected around this league which can only benefit our franchise.

As for whether or not he would be willing - I would think yes. One would imagine the position would include a pay raise, and the next time a coach gets fired, he won’t have to be the one stepping behind the bench.

I am also way heartened to see someone other than Levenson speaking for the Thrashers organization. Maybe they got that message too.

By lovemyhockey

May 7, 2008 7:36 PM | Link to this

Whats up with everything? Everyone needs to go !! For 6 or 7 years nothing. Look at Tampa and Miami and the Ducks. We’re pittiful.

What about McCrimmon?

By Tony C

May 7, 2008 7:44 PM | Link to this

Well, I am going to take the Gay view on this, is he cute, and will the locker room be open to all of us? Then this decision, as well as my same sex marriage to Gavs at Habs inside/out is alright.

By Randy Alborn

May 7, 2008 7:50 PM | Link to this

Lighten up, it’s only a game, the Thrash will be fine. Check out these NHL mockumentaries - hilarious:

http://youtube.com/user/directorpictures

By Mrs Randy Alborn

May 7, 2008 9:32 PM | Link to this

My former husband is sending fans to YouTube porno sites, he really is mentally disturbed and plays with himself often at Habs inside/out. Hotlanta sports sucks.

By Brendan

May 7, 2008 11:12 PM | Link to this

Sara, the best I can say about Waddell, from a managerial perspective, is that he seems to have a thorough understanding of the current CBA. When it comes to matters like “pro-rated salaries, injury exemptions, eligibility for the many and various categories and types of free agency, I’ll give a nod to Waddell there. He seems to know what things cost and if they’ll fit within the salary cap or not. If the new GM needs that kind of assistance, I’m sure Waddell could provide it. But really, shouldn’t a prospective GM already possess a good working knowledge of the CBA? Or, at a minimum, have someone in mind to hire as assistant GM who knows this stuff through and through?

I’ll also agree with Sara in that … by far … Michael Gearon comes off as much more competent than Levenson. Speaking from the heart, prior to Custance’s interview with Levenson, I had given Levenson a fair amount of the “benefit of the doubt.” Levenson’s interview removed that consideration entirely. And quickly led me to believe that Waddell was the ‘brains’ of the operation. I can sure see how it wasn’t too difficult for Waddell to manipulate Levenson! I’d wager Waddell did get that contract extension.

Gearon isn’t out of the woods, however. I caught him on 680TheFan with “Buck and Kincade.” He denied and downplayed that Billy Knight’s desire to fire Woodson was an issue. C’mon, man! Knight resigned because the ASG wouldn’t fire Woodson. Ostensibly, the ASG is sticking with him! After more than 200 losses!! And if they’re not going to fire Woodson, then WHAT GM will come into the Hawksville knowing that he cannot even hire his own coach! Which is the single most important thing a basketball GM will ever do! Gearon played it off as “media sensationalism.” Wow. Denial isn’t just a river in Egypt.

Okay, then Gearon shifted to Marian Hossa, citing what a professional he is. But never once, in his glowing praise of Hossa, did he ever address the most important issue, which was WHYYYYY Hossa wouldn’t re-sign. Gearon talked about how important it was to have player retention for a solid core nucleus for the future. He spoke of a “window of opportunity” for prolonged championship contention. Welllllllll. Isn’t Marian Hossa part of that (vis-a-vis player retention)??????

Bueller?? Bueller??? Bueller?????

Allrightee then. Gearon strikes me as smarter than Levenson. If left to Gearon, alone, I think he’d take the necessary “consulting steps” towards finding a suitable GM, as he, himself, admitted that John Kincade knows more about hockey than he does. Gearon could consider sking the NHL to temporarily run the team until a permanent GM could be named, after a comprehensive and exhaustive search is completed.

Don’t laugh. It happened to the Buffalo Sabres when they were insolvent (John J. Rigas-Adelphia Cable scandal). And it worked out pretty well for them. If the decision is left to Levenson, (GOD HELP US ALL!!!), we’re better off with Waddell than anything Bruce might find, out on his own.

By HookyBob

May 7, 2008 11:16 PM | Link to this

I’m torn on Don becoming the “hockey consultant” the ASG has mentioned hiring. I know Scotty Bowman, I wish Scotty Bowman was a friend of mine,…you,..Don Waddell are no Scotty Bowman.

49.995% of me agrees totally with Brendon’s 2:06 post. The idea recalls the old movie line: Wa,.Wa,.Why that is so stupid there is nothing to compare it to. Here’s a quiz back at you Brendon: What movie is that line from? (Hint: Humphrey Bogart and Walter Houston starred in it). In fact Don W may be showing the same psychotic symptoms Bogart did in this movie.

49.995 (the other side) says Sara may be “spot-on”. Don may be in the wrong role. Could we have “misunderestimated” Don? He knows, and is respected in, US hockey. Brng in someone who knows, and is respected in, Canadian hockey (ie as Bob mentioned some days back “someone mentored by Bob Gainey”) and we could have a “going hockey concern” here in Hotlanta. Could Don realize his shortcomings and give the new GM & coach more lee way. A lot of pieces fall into place with the Petr DeBoer story. However, that scenario also buys Don more time as the verdict won’t be in for a few years.

So where does the last .01% fall?Is it:So stupid there’s nothing to compare it to; or **”Unintuitively spot-on?”

Bob I was thinking about Cheney when I read your post. It is sorta like accepting a hunting invite from your “soon to be father-in-law.” “I don’t know sheriff. He was reloading his gun and it misfired,…three times.”

By Sara

May 8, 2008 6:57 AM | Link to this

Brendan keep in mind that this “repositioning” apparently would put Don in the Mullin position over both franchises, not just hockey. Which means he isn’t necessarily going to be a consultant, just an overhead manager. I wonder how much Don knows about basketball?

In any organization, the higher up in the management chain you go, the more the position is about managing the people under you and evaluating big-picture issues and the less it is about actually doing the specific jobs themselves. So the idea I get from this is that Don would not be making player personnel decisions (although he would likely have input on both sides), but rather making sure the organization is functioning properly as a whole.

However, I’ll repeat my mantra again here, which is that without some major idealogical changes from ownership, any reorganizing is only going to be mostly superficial. While maybe better drafting could help somewhat, at some point, someone has to be willing to pony up the money and show a serious desire to make a contender out of this franchise…not just hope mediocrity in a weak division will sqeak us in and then we can pray for a “Cinderella” run.

By GaVaHokie

May 8, 2008 8:49 AM | Link to this

Allrightee then. Gearon strikes me as smarter than Levenson. If left to Gearon, alone, I think he’d take the necessary “consulting steps” towards finding a suitable GM, as he, himself, admitted that John Kincade knows more about hockey than he does.

Levenson doesn’t strike me as the kind of guy to take advise from anyone.

There’s too many chefs in the kitchen… that’s why I thought Bernie Mullin was fired in the first place. I think it’s better to put Don Waddell in Bernie’s position, and tell Levenson to go play golf somewhere. Let Waddell bring in Dave Nonis or someone else and let THOSE two guys be the voice of hockey in the Spirit Group.

By Craig Custance

May 8, 2008 9:10 AM | Link to this

David: I’m sure Maurice will get consideration, but the situation to really watch is in San Jose. If Ron Wilson is fired, I’d immediately pencil him in as the front-runner for the Thrashers job.

By Craig Custance

May 8, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this

Hokie: Nonis is supposedly talking to Toronto about that vacancy but he’d be a great addition to the Thrashers front office, for sure.

By GaVaHokie

May 8, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this

Craig… yeah, they have a video report on TSN right now about Toronto looking at Nonis… basicly how he’d be a bargaining chip to lure Burke in eventually to run the whole show.

Here’s a thought… what about bringing in Cheveldayoff and Anderson at the same time? I’m starting to think we need to be a little more “blockbuster” than that.

I’ve got nothing wrong with Ron Wilson, but it looks like the Sharks players are petitioning pretty hard to keep him.

By Pasi Nurminen

May 8, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this

Unbelievable, the guy has hosed the whole franchise yet is “going to be promoted”, ahahhahahahhahaha. WHAT A JOKE. Only in Atlanta. I swear this ownership group wants this team gone. I can’t figure any other reason for some of these moves???? Custance, you need to get in there and be the new GM, can’t do any worse. You’ll probably end up president at some point. ahhaha, what a mess. Do us a favor, get Waddell promoted (sorry that is soooooo funny to write) before the DRAFT. What a bunch of Dolts. lol.

By GaVaHokie

May 8, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this

Another pitch for DeBoer… he was the coach and General Manager for the Detroit/Plymouth Whalers from 1995-2001… keep in mind, the OHL has a draft as well. So, he’s the guy who finds guys like Weiss, Derek Roy, Legwand, Justin Williams and Mike Richards before they’re even NHL eligible. He’s the one that develops them into First round draft picks.

Look at Justin Williams career statistics between his first year in Plymouth and his second year… now that’s development!

By GaVaHokie

May 8, 2008 10:49 AM | Link to this

Funny… Paul Maurice just made mention of Peter DeBoer in his press conference… how much he respects him.

By GaVaHokie

May 8, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this

Pasi Nurminen… now change your screen name… say something similar… and we’ll all think it’s someone else. Certainly, we can’t tell the difference.

By Sara

May 8, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this

Hokie and CC that’s interesting because one of the big supposed knocks on Wilson is his contentious relationships with his players, Marleau in particular. It’s a big caution flag for me. The last thing we need is the wrong coach coming in here, rubbing Kovy the wrong way, and effectively pushing our star player out the door in 2010.

By GaVaHokie

May 8, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this

Sara… Just to show I’m not making it up… :)

By Brendan

May 8, 2008 11:50 AM | Link to this

Sara, Atlanta would be “lucky” to get Ron Wilson. Would getting Wilson win up a cup?? No. Probably not. But we’d have better regular seasons! And it’d be a better situation than what we have now, and maybe ever had.

As for Kovalchuk, I think he’s gone. I hope I’m wrong. I hold out “hope” that our offeseason moves this Summer and next might “sway” him to stay. But if #17 would be honest about making his intentions to leave known NOW, imagine what a benefit it would be to the GM!

Stop. I want Kovalchuk to stay. I wouldn’t ever trade him if I thought I could re-sign him. But if that’s off the table, either because the ASG won’t offer 12-years / $121.1 million or because Ilya wants to play ELSEWHERE, then the GM is “stuck.” He’s got to trade him, just like he had to trade Hossa.

Which situation is better, trading Kovalchuk at this Summer’s draft? Or trading him at the February 2010 deadline?? C’mon now. You don’t really need to think about this one, do ya? And Ilya doesn’t have a “no trade clause.” Not that I’m aware of. So, Ilya doesn’t have to like it or approve it.

Bogosian and Doughty very well maybe the defensemen of their generation. Why “choose” between them, if you don’t have to? Kovalchuk to Los Angeles for that #2 overall pick, plus more … is not entirely out of the question. What Western Conference team wouldn’t part with a Top 5 pick for a PERENNIAL Rocket Richard Goal Scoring Champion??? Answer: None!! They’d all do it, and think we’re crazy for offering #17. But it’s NOT CRAZY, if Kovy won’t stayyyy in Atlanta. That’s just called “roster management.” To be 1,000% clear, you can’t replace a Kovalchuk. He’s a bonafide Superstar and sniper. If he’d just agree to stayyy for the rest of his career, and ownership would agree to do a Ted Leonsis, a la “Ovechkin,” it’d all be fine.

We’re not there yet. And we may never get there. Players talk amongst themselves. Kovalchuk holds all the power. 29 other teams will be vying for him come July 1, 2010. And ya know it. And the ASG knows it, no matter how INCOMPETENT any of us might view them.

By Brendan

May 8, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this

HookyBob, as the tree said to the lumberjack, “I’m stumped.” What movie was it?

By ranallo10

May 8, 2008 12:04 PM | Link to this

Brendan — With roster management like that, you can never expect to win in this league. If you’re shipping off Kovalchuk, send Enstrom and Lehtonen packing while you’re at it! Who needs them and their eventually inflated contracts and unhappiness with the direction of the franchise?? GET ASSETS NOW!!!

(I hope you can note the extreme sarcasm)

Kovalchuk is the type of player you hold on to and attempt to re-sign, at all costs. He’s endearing to fans, he’s passionate on the ice, and above all HE’S A GREAT PLAYER. If he wants to leave, then I’d rather hold on to him as long as possible while attempting to convince him to stay. Otherwise you’ll just start the self-loathing trades of “oh, we can’t keep [insert player’s name] in three years time, let’s jettison him now while his trade value is high”.

To summarize: talking about trading Kovalchuk before 2010 is abso-Fing-lutely ridiculous. That’s a franchise killing move, if I’ve ever seen one.

By Sara

May 8, 2008 12:17 PM | Link to this

Hokie I knew you weren’t making it up. I had already seen a similar report at TSN. Mostly my point is I’m amazed the players are standing up for him, given numerous media reports that his relationship with the players had been less than ideal.

Brendan I completely understand your logic regarding trading Kovy, but I agree with Ranallo here - to trade Kovy now or even next year would be assinine at best, and completely self-destructive at worst. I’ll be mad as hades if they trade him. However, even if we have to go through a re-build at this point, I really believe if things are looking like they are headed in the right direction, Kovy will stay. He’s still young and he’s got plenty of time. He also loves this franchise - which is potentially irreplacable (Hossa sure didn’t love this franchise).

By kracker

May 8, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this

Lots of folks over on the Sharks board want Wilson gone. Not all but lots. A couple of 2nd round exits would look pretty good from my chair.

By Bob

May 8, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this

Best move they could make is to trade Kovy. You would get a great return for him and fill the many holes in the lineup. Otherwise, it’s a one horse show “we have Kovy!” and then he’s gone in two years anyway.

This club could become immediately competitive by making a blockbuster move and trading Kovy and bringing in the much needed help. Keeping Kovy and sticking this year’s Todd White and Ken Klee bandaids on it, ain’t gonna help significantly.

By Brendan

May 8, 2008 12:46 PM | Link to this

Then do you agree, Ranallo, that this ASG has got to be more committed to spending in order to have player retention?

That’s the lesson the ASG doesn’t seem to “get.” Yet. They follow a business model, where profits override wins and philosophical direction of the team.

The way the ASG is moving now, they’ll never keep Superstars, for exactly the reasons you’ve cited, Ranallo. That’s the exact response from you that I was trying to elicit.

The alternative is this: Draft flawlessly, then after three years, trade those picks from more HIGH END picks to continually reload in this fashion. You cannot KEEP any of your superstars if yon won’t spend to close to the cap on Opening Night. To make this system work, you’d need a pretty good coach, who works well with young players, and you’d need a GM and scouts who are sharp as razors on draft day.

The rest of the roster is average players who score 15-20 goals a year, for as little as you can acquire them for.

I didn’t say it was exciting. In this situation, as others have said, Atlanta becomes a “farm system” for other NHL clubs who can and will spend for Tier I talent retention. It’s a tought battle for the Atlanta market. The “break even” point is almost the floor of the cap! It’s the ASG’s money. If they cannot afford it, or refuse to “risk it,” then we’re stuck, as fans.

But Ranallo, you cannot trade them ALL away, simultaneously. The league says you must field a team of 22 players.

By Alan

May 8, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this

Sara - The funny thing about media reports is that sometimes they’re embellishing the facts or are blatantly untrue.

This sword slices both ways, Re: Ron Wilson.

By kracker

May 8, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this

I vote to keep Kovy and trade Brendan :)

By NASCAR Dave

May 8, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this

BRENDAN is right on the money folks.

You have to look at trading Kovalchuk… because as long as Don FRAUDell is still in charge, Kovy will be walking the hell out of here.

You cannot FORCE a player to stay here if he doesn’t want to be here.

NASCAR Dave thinks some people must have their their blinders on here because it seems you are trying to “trick” yourselves into thinking Kovy will stay.

That’s probably not a good idea for you people to refuse to accept reality. I think it will just hurt you even more, in the end, when it happens. Because it will… HAPPEN.

NUFF SAID.

By Sars

May 8, 2008 2:13 PM | Link to this

Tony C, Gavs and Brendan are always talking about Habs inside/out and Gay issues. Why are you doing this on what should be a hockey site for Thrashers to discuss, and why is someone called The Teacher saing Gavs posts on their site, as well as ours? Comments.

By Hokie

May 8, 2008 2:17 PM | Link to this

Tony C, where were you last night, we were waiting at Habs inside/out, tomorrow is the last day for their trivia show, two tickets and expenses paid trip to the Finals. Well, if you arent there again, dont blame me. Todays topics includes Atlanta Flames trivia. Hee Haw.

By ranallo10

May 8, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this

Brendan — You’re well aware of my opinion on the ASG business model, and how it’ll affect this team if the current model is not altered. So yes, we’re in agreement that player retention is of high priority, and currently it is part of the results from their flawed (in my opinion) business model.

However, I don’t think a 12-year contract is wise, period.

Bob — I highly disagree that the best thing for a hockey franchise is to trade their best player in his prime for assets. Who leads this team if you were to trade Kovalchuk??? Right now the majority of fans are upset that there is no supporting cast in place WITH Kovalchuk (or with Hossa AND Kovalchuk), yet you propose trading Kovalchuk would HELP?

I understand the philosophy that “if Kovalchuk isn’t going to re-sign, you get whatever value you can for him”, and I don’t disagree with that philosophy. However, Kovalchuk has never said he won’t re-sign, and is two seasons away from his contract expiring. He’s expressed concern with the current direction, and highlighted his frustration with not being in the playoffs. It’s obvious he wants to be in the playoffs and playing for a competitive team, but it’s purely an assumption that he wouldn’t re-sign in Atlanta.

You are all jumping the gun on this one…nothing is set in stone with the Head Coach, much less the employment of a GM that can build a team Kovalchuk would want to stay on. To fold up and give Kovalchuk away for any player not named Ovechkin or Crosby is just plain foolish, in my opinion.

By CNN

May 8, 2008 4:29 PM | Link to this

Habs inside/out, a website targeting gay men infected with numerous venerial diseases, was raided by the Canadian Royal Mounties today. Initially, the employees of Habs inside/out cheered, yelled me first, and made pig noises as the Mounties entered the building. However, when the employees realized that the Mounties were truely the Mounties and not another group of gay dancers, the employees pleaded for leniency.

The Mounties informed the employees of Habs inside/out that they would be sent to Saudi Arabia to be-headed. Out of ignorance, the employees cheered looking forward to the experience. However, when the employees of Habs inside/out understood their true fate, they cried during the entire plane trip to Jeddah.

The Mounties are currently seeking all visitors to the Habs inside/out website to share the same fate as the employees of Habs inside/out.

By kracker

May 8, 2008 4:54 PM | Link to this

Come on, people. There is absoultely no way Kovalchuk gets traded. Trading him is in no way in the best interest of the Thrashers franchise at this time.

I crack wise about how the ASG and Waddell might screw up the draft by trading down for some aging vet and then compound that goof by signing more of the same as free agents. However, I realy do expect them, based on the latest news/rumors to bump DW up to president and hire a new GM and coach, take a run at signing some quality FA defensemen and a forward or two. Season ticket sales are significantly down, Kovalchuk has publicly spoken out about the sorry state of the team, so actions have to be taken. How successful they will be, time will tell.

After this huge makeover is made, if we sit here a year from now in the same sorry position (or worse) with the state of the team play showing no improvement and our only bright spot is having another top 3 draft pick, well, Kovy will probably ask to be traded and who could disagree: “After seven years I play here and we still suck so trade me for assets” or words like that.

I really do expect the team to improve significantly with increased contributions from the younger players adding to the success of the expected team overhaul, so let’s stop this foolish talk about trading the face of the franchise. If it somehow happens, it won’t be this summer for sure.

By kracker

May 8, 2008 5:58 PM | Link to this

Sara this link is for you

By Sage of Bluesland

May 8, 2008 7:23 PM | Link to this

My, my, my—the sheep are out tonight! I have to watch where I step, in light of all the utter droppings and Waddellites about…

Look forward to telling all of you, in about two years time, “I told you so” (again).

Will you listen this time?

Kovy? Gone. He wants to win, period.

Don Waddell? Stays. Will run this franchise completely into the ground. The next coach is completely irrelevant, given the pitiful overall talent level on the team. The next coach will just provide another firing by bumbling Donny to save his own skin.

(And the wittle fwag-wavers will plead to give Donny another chance!)

Sheep that don’t learn from obvious history are doomed to repeat it…Didn’t your ewes ever teach you that???

By Sage of Bluesland

May 8, 2008 7:42 PM | Link to this

Is it just me or does anyone else simply LOVE the current pic of our bumbling Donny that graces the Thrashers page?

Looks delightfully buffoonish, doesn’t he?!

This is what YOU are buying, folks…a lisping cretin who does nothing but kiss rears to save his own pathetic hide…

By HookyBob

May 8, 2008 7:45 PM | Link to this

Brendon: Please watch “Treasure of the Sierra Madre.” The old miner is talking to inexperienced Bogart when he finds “fools gold” and thinks it is the real thing.

Gotta go,… they have just dropped the puck.

By LAC

May 8, 2008 8:11 PM | Link to this

This just gets more goofy every day.

First one of our star players wants out… Franchise not moving in right direction.

Second, Mr.Potty Mouth levenson says We are close… and are moving in THE RIGHT DIRECTION !

Third, Ilya calls for change, because we are not moving in the right direction.

Fourth, Dumb waddell, says we are a few players away from being good.

Fifth and latest… This geron idiot says the Thrashers need more fixing than the Hawks.

What the HELL is going on here ????

The ONLY constant through out this entire mess is that the owners are idiots and waddell has no idea how to run an NHL team… It is REAL SIMPLE !

These owners need to go spend some time in Millegville in a padded room under 24/7 care. They need professional help so they can return to society and be worthy citizens.

They are a bunch of collective NUT cases… If everyone has not noticed.

How do they run the thing ? I really wonder if they realize how STUPID they look to the sports world !?

To review the track record of waddell and see his complete failure here in almost 10 years and keep the bum is mind boggling to say the very least.

What should be done,

A.Fire waddell. B.Hire Nonis as GM. C.Hire John Anderson as coach. D.Sell the teams to someone who wants and knows how to WIN !!!!

This thing is much much more serious than even the strongest asg supporters realize, maybe they will wake up and see the Thrashers are going down the drain FAST…

By R. Stroz

May 8, 2008 8:56 PM | Link to this

Sage - The picture of Waddell reminds me of the cartoon character Elmer Fudd.

By Craig Custance

May 8, 2008 9:19 PM | Link to this

Hotlanta sports teams have been wedely known to disappiont for years. The Negro culture here keeps us back. Maybe time for some changes. Mike Vick started our downward spiral, then the Thrashers went and gave away the team. Baseball is a joke, and the Hawks are golfing. Sometimes Waddell reminds me of Elmer Fudd, a Gavahokie wanna be. That Commie gal that comes on this site talks like she knows our teams, probably wants a date. Sorry hun, me and Tony are an item.

By Brendan

May 8, 2008 11:23 PM | Link to this

Hey, I don’t like this Kovalchuk trade talk, either. The greatest day in the history of the franchise was Atlanta winning the 2001 draft lottery and selecting Kovalchuk. Buttttt, they have to think about player retention. And that means doing something to make players want to stay and cease plotting their “exit strategies,” a la Hossa and Savard.

Now, maybe 12 years is excessive. Typically, I’d always thought so, anyway. But looking at trends, I see a strange phenomenon emerging. Richards got a 12-year deal. Ovechkin got a 13-year deal. DiPietro got a 15-year deal. Even a guy like Minnesota Wild D-man Nick Schultz got a 6-year deal. The only thing I can figure … is these players have the prime of their careers ahead of them … so their franchises wanted them locked up … before the price skyrockets even higher and they maybe lose the player.

For me, 5-6 years reflected a “longterm” contract. And a serious commitment! Apparently, that may no longer apply.

How so? Well, let’s say, for the sake of argument, Kovalchuk AGREES to re-sign, in principal, with Atlanta. But his camp says, “We want a lifetime contract.” The GM turns to ownership to ask, “Wellll, how about it?”

The ball would be in their court, would it not? And what if Kovy’s agent says, “10 years, at a minimum, or we hit the open market, where we’ll get even more years.”

Now what?

I know what Arthur Blank would do. In a heartbeat. Without a moment’s hesitation. And a press conference CELEBRATING the new contract would be arranged immediately. That’s one way to handle the “face of the franchise” and quite possibly Atlanta’s best chance at ever winning a Stanley Cup.

By ranallo10

May 9, 2008 12:40 AM | Link to this

Hey, I don’t like this Kovalchuk trade talk, either.

I dunno, the fact that you’re the one who brought it up seems to disagree with this statement.

Kovalchuk isn’t able to be re-signed until the final year of his contract. Until that time, contract re-negotiations are a moot point. The ASG needs to pony up, we all know that, so why keep restating it in reference to Kovalchuk’s contract (that doesn’t run up until 2010)?

In my opinion, it’s throwing in the towel after the first round if you trade a superstar player like Kovalchuk any sooner than the final year of his contract. Not many returns can be AS GOOD as Kovalchuk, nor better for the franchise, so why not focus on trying to build a franchise he’d like to stay with?

By Tony C.

May 9, 2008 6:50 AM | Link to this

I y’all have been blasphemin’ again.

Do not talk about trading #17 ever.

Unless he’s quoted as wanting out, and then I’ll just go crazy and become a Flyers fan worse-than-death

An yall can go crazy with it. Deboer? really???

Wow. I’m so underwhelmed. I’d like to see DW make a run at Rick Wilson of Dallas (and get him to bring his favorite pupil)-in some capacity, if he wants to give head coach a shot, then there you go….I just realized the link may be restricted, so here’s the pertinent part of the cokumn on Dallas’ emerging youth on the blueline that EJ Hradek wrote:

The Fab Four is well-schooled by Stars associate coach Rick Wilson. In his 15th season in the Stars’ organization, Wilson does a great job working with young defensemen. In years past, Wilson helped develop players like Derian Hatcher, Richard Matvichuk and Darryl Sydor and is a big reason these kids have been able to keep their cool under playoff pressure.

Sounds like a guy we could use to me. Hradek’s a friend of the Dallas organization-used to be their beat reporter and was a scout for the organization as well according to his bio-so the above may be the “best possible truth”, type assesment. Even so, I say give him a look-see, his defenders looked good right up until they ran into the Motown powerplay. (BTW:What was with the 5-on-3 call in the first? I realize the home team gets the benefit of the doubt, but damn seemed unfairly uneven to me in the 1st.)

Just a thought.

By kracker

May 9, 2008 7:56 AM | Link to this

Tony Your link worked. I think the next paragraph needs to be highlighted here also, since it’s a big reason why the Stars are, well, stars:

The Stars’ amateur scouting staff, led by director Tim Bernhardt, also deserves a ton of credit for identifying these talented young defenders. Quietly, Bernhardt and his staff have done quite well at the draft table over the past several years. In total, the Stars have 13 original draft picks in their current lineup. And that doesn’t include goalie Mike Smith (2001, 161st overall) and left winger Jussi Jokinen (2001, 192nd overall), who were traded to Tampa in the deadline deal that brought center Brad Richards to Dallas.

Wow, 13 drafted players in the lineup + two more traded away!

By GaVaHokie

May 9, 2008 8:25 AM | Link to this

Just found some footage of Drew Doughty, finally. I’m very impressed. However, his first choice of team is the LA Kings, and I’m sure the Kings would be happy to oblige.

By GaVaHokie

May 9, 2008 8:44 AM | Link to this

Craig… shoot me an email, I have an important question for you.

By Mitch Holder

May 9, 2008 11:51 AM | Link to this

I have been a Thrashers season ticket holder for 4 years and I think this is the best move if Spirit moves him to Bernie’s old job. Other NHl people like working with him and I think it would be a good fit. I do think we need a new direction team wise that a new gm and Coach can bring. We are built for speed and need some big banging defenseman

Teams strictly built for speed usually don’t go far in the playoffs.

By Jim

May 9, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this

Elmer Fudd couldn’t cut it as coach or GM so he gets promoted. Talk about the Peter Principle in action.

By Craig

May 9, 2008 2:14 PM | Link to this

The likelyhood of Kovals being traded seems stronger after todays press conference which seems to indicate a rebuilding plan has been started. Now my one question pertains to the poster asking me to send him an email, posing as Gavs. CNN, Was that you again? We already discussed the GMHL, Gay mens hockey league going on later this month. Tony C and I are running it, and you can get applications at Starbucks here at Peachtree Street.

By GaVaHokie

May 9, 2008 2:18 PM | Link to this

CHris, Got your Email, thanks but I personally like my men with some color, and a schlonggg. Habs inside/out and the rest of the BOYS can confirm that. BTW, Bath house or bar and grill tonight? Hee Haw.

By Lanny McDonald

May 9, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this

At least they’re getting the spelling right this time… It’s Peachtree St., NOT Peach Tree St.

Stupid Canucks.

By Lanny McDonald

May 9, 2008 2:32 PM | Link to this

Hab Trolls - That must suck knowing you guys HAD Hossa, but Don Waddell shafted you guys to hook up the Penguins. Man, that must really HURT. Just think where you guys could be if you had Hossa…

Bygones…

By Lanny

May 9, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this

Since we will be the only city to lose TWO hockey franchises -Flames and Thrashers, and since we have a quarterback that is an animal abuser, and since we HAD a baseball team that won something like 14 pennants and has but one World Series to show for it, since basketball is all but forgotten here, since the Bulldogs and Yellow Jackets suck too, and mostly, since this is a ghetto town of illiterates, I,m outta here. XXX.

By Mrs Mc Donald

May 9, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this

Dont forget they closed the Gay bars, son.

By Marian Hossa

May 9, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this

I see fans still talk about me here Atlanta. Why you trade me, then ask Montreal fans why they not get Marian. I drink too much Wadka in Hotlanta, city filthy, too much traffic, women fat and men gay. Coach here crazy, tell me to get Cup, I say already have cup, trainer give me. Last year, sell ALL prospects for bum Tkachuk, then trade me for junk players. Atlanta fans and teams losers. Too many men here like other men. Lose Civil War too.

By Alexei Zhitnik

May 9, 2008 4:42 PM | Link to this

Suckers.

By Alan

May 9, 2008 5:22 PM | Link to this

Hey Rannallo, Gavvy and myself have entered the costume contest at Habs Inside/Out.

Winner gets tickets to the Finals, are you in? You could dress up as Vick - in the college years of course.

Gavs will be an Ice Girl, and I will be Gavs.

By Brendan

May 9, 2008 5:28 PM | Link to this

Actually Ranallo, I brought up the trading Kovalchuk concept because the organization is at a crossroads. Read the Jeff Schultz Article how about the Spirit Boys can really make their mark with this offseason’s moves. I choose not to bury my head in the sand like some ostrich and cite, “Well, we can’t re-sign him until July 1, 2009, anyway, so why talk about it?”

Factually accurate as that may be, there is something called “nudging.” And future planning. Atlanta owns Kovy’s rights. The GM can “talk” to his player’s agent any time he jolly well wants to ask, point blank, “Are you committed to leaving in 2010?” Now, the GM may not get a ‘straight answer’ from the Kovalchuk camp, as admitting they are desiring to play elsewhere very well could lead to a trade. Possibly someplace very undesireable, where you watch your dog run away for three days.

I reaffirm, I don’t “like” to talk about trading Kovalchuk. I don’t want him traded! But if Kovalchuk has got an “exit strategy” in place, and there’s absolutely nothing that will change his mind, and he’s willing to ADMIT that to us, then like it or not, the GM has to think about “asset salvaging.” And once you try to salvage assets, which in this case is IMPOSSIBLE, the next thing you have to access is VALUE. As in “maximum value.” You know this to be true, Ranallo. You do. Don’t deny it. You’re not stupid. “Brendan, how do you know Kovy’s agent and DWad aren’t talking, as we speak?” I don’t. I can only hope they are. And that the Kovalchuk camp is being “specific” about what they want. Otherwise, they’ll wind up with “Todd White II: The sequel.” Coming to the arena near you.

But to ignore this situation, thinking it “moot,” is ridiculous. Either we get Kovy what he wants, very speicifically, or face the consequences. Which could mean trading him now, for “maximum value.”

Stop. I agree with you! It’s a terrible way to conduct business. But how’d we get here?, if NOT for conducting TERRIBLE BUSINESS. To pretend that everything’s gone swimmingly, and that we’re just a ‘tweak’ away is …. Actually, do I really need to finish this sentence? It is what it is.

By Alan

May 9, 2008 6:17 PM | Link to this

Gavs, whats the difference between an American grandma on nine-eleven and an elephant? FIFTY pounds and a Black dress. Hee Haw. HIO.

By GaVaHokie

May 9, 2008 6:27 PM | Link to this

Alan, Rannallo said he saw you at Senior Citzens Bingo night in downtown Montreal, can you confirm this?

But don’t forget the time we saw Rannallo outside of the courthouse in Richmond shouting “FREE VICK!”

Hee Haw!

By JB

May 9, 2008 7:07 PM | Link to this

Waddell is close to being our new President, or stepping down completely.

He will make his final decision about his future with the team after the World Juniors.

According to ESPN though; DW has been asked by the AS to step down and accept another management role within the orginization. So new GM and head coach next season?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3389117

By Sage of Bluesland

May 9, 2008 7:20 PM | Link to this

Get the bumbling, lisping idiot (Waddell) OUT of the organization, for Heaven’s sake!!!

The ownership is getting closer and closer to the correct decision…Take that final step and RESTORE HOPE to the loyal fans who deserve so much better!!!

Let the Waddellites leave with their buffoonish leader—and let the light of truth shine in that figurative joke otherwise known as “Blueland”, that Donny Waddell created…

FIRE HIM NOW!!!

By B. Thenet

May 9, 2008 7:26 PM | Link to this

I suspect CC’s tough but fair coverage of the team this season led the ASG to intentionally leak this to ESPN instead of giving the local guy a scoop.

The ball is now in Don Waddell’s court, however the draft is VERY near. The ASG had better have their candidate ready to go as soon as they get Don’s decision.

By Brendan

May 9, 2008 11:35 PM | Link to this

Sage, this ownership needs someone to tell them the difference between “friendship” and “business.” I’m afraid, it’s going to take somone having a “heart-to-heart” conversation with the Gearons. Someone must explain to them that sometimes … you have to fire a “friend.” No matter how much you like them and respect them. And irrespective of how “nice” they are. Particularly, when they’ve more than had their chance to build a Cup contender.

By GaVaHokie

May 9, 2008 11:41 PM | Link to this

Girls, I have to admit I like my men the bestest. Particularly Mandingos with large monkey asses. Can anyone verify that Peach Tree Street Gay bars will reopen soon. Homosexuality is rampant here in Hotlanta.

By HockeyDawg

May 10, 2008 12:27 AM | Link to this

Hoorah! Let’s hope that espn.com report is right, and since it came from Scott Burnside, who is usually spot-on AND lives in Atlanta, I tend to believe it. Yes - FINALLY! Maybe out voices have been heard. Maybe there is a light at the end of the tunnel! Maybe there is hope after all for our beloved Thrashers!! Here’s hoping the report is right and Donny is on his way out. He may be a nice guy, but Waddell has without a doubt proven to be one of the worst GM’s in the NHL for the last decade. See ya, DW!!!

By Bob

May 10, 2008 10:11 AM | Link to this

And once again the perpetually clueless are shown to be wrong.

I told you that there were a lot of season ticket holders that did not renew and the reason is Waddell.

The Spirit got the message and we will get our new GM. This is the best day in Thrashers’ hisory, we finally, finally, finally can get someone in here competent to build a hockey club.

Alleluia!

By Brendan

May 10, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this

Bob, I want to be celebrating with you! But it may be premature. Until I hear Waddell has cleaned out his desk, what has really changed? The “new” GM lackey will have to report to, and submit budget proposals with, the “President,” who is allegedly going to be Don Waddell, if Waddell accepts that position. And we’ll know that in a few short weeks.

So … Waddell is just going to sit there and watch his replacement show him up in every possible way?

The way to effect real change is to remove Waddell entirely. Look, I’m not really wanting to take food of his table. Waddell can join the broadcast crew. The ASG will allegedly be paying him anyway. I can’t see how it’d hurt to have Waddell on the radio, or even the TV crew. That’s just my $0.02.

But the most important thing is … Waddell has to be ENTIRELY removed from the decision-making process. Which is something the ASG has been saying will be done “by committee.” Welll, if Waddell remains “on the committee” I won’t be celebrating anything.

By Brendan

May 10, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this

WE, RE QUEER AND WE,RE HERE….DIKES ON BIKES…..LAYS FOR GAYS…..STAGS AND PRA…..WILL MEET at My House for a real HOE DOWN, LETS TALK ATLANTA SPORTS…AND GOLDEN SHOWERS. HEEEEE HAAAAAW.

By cHRIS-cnn

May 10, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this

CAN I CUM.

By ranallo10

May 10, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this

The rumors that Don Waddell has been asked to step down are completely false. Ever since the President position opened up in January, people have speculated that Don would be a fit in that position. That is a testament to his talent and potential beyond just the GM role. Don is very highly respected in Atlanta, in NHL circles, and certainly among our ownership group. However, his move to the President’s role is pure speculation. My comments were in relation to the Hawks. The holes I was referring to in hockey are the coach, and the need to fill some positions on the ice. We are focused on finding a coach, and getting ready for the draft and free agency.

I guess by “perpetually clueless” you mean the ownership group…

Of course they see people leaving, and feel the monetary impact. But that monetary impact is clearly not forcing any moves they consider drastic, and according to the owners they are possibly PROMOTING Waddell, rather than firing him (as you claimed would happen).

But no change has happened as of yet, so right now we’re still looking at the same old stuff, just a different day.

Gearon also said the team has not contacted any current or former general managers about the Thrashers desire to add to the front office, saying instead that the focus is on hiring a coach.

So yeah, anything regarding Waddell being fired or a GM being hired is purely speculation according to the owner (you know, the person who signs the checks).

By ranallo10

May 10, 2008 1:06 PM | Link to this

Gents, the GMhl, Gay Mens Hockey League will be posting for applications for our roller hockey tournment this summer. There will be six teams and we will commence play on June 8th and run until July 16th. We will have a playoffs and crown a champion, and a banquet will follow with an awards and trophy night. If you are interested, please leave your emails on the site with name, and we will contact you. There is a 25.00 fee which is for renting uniforms and skates.

By kracker

May 10, 2008 1:12 PM | Link to this

Thrashers reportedly talking to Nonis

By kracker

May 10, 2008 3:42 PM | Link to this

Shukins, we all knows that white boys here in Hotlanta likes ums our Negros with juicy tight asses, and thems big lips for some good smaks on thems peepees.

By badhatharry

May 12, 2008 9:13 AM | Link to this

Frustrated with the Atlanta spirit? Don’t just post here e-mail them directly as well. We need to overwhelm them with e-mails until they start to listen to the fans. owners@atlantaspirit.com

By Marcus

January 18, 2009 6:46 AM | Link to this

Could you help me. Never hold discussions with the monkey when the organ grinder is in the room. I am from Iran and learning to speak English, give true I wrote the following sentence: “Not to mention that you must stay motivated and dedicated even though you have to do the work yourself.”

Thank you very much ;-). Marcus.

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