Thrashers

By john

July 2, 2007 10:45 PM | Link to this

can we atleast get a first line center or a top d-man like sourey? what about belanger?

By Geneen

July 2, 2007 10:53 PM | Link to this

Yes, I post here every night bewailing the fact that Kozlov hasn’t signed with the Thrashers. I’ve decided, I have to mentally let him go, like Tom Cruise’s character in Top Gun, throwing Goose’s dogtags overboard at the end of the movie. LOL.

Sorry, I have nothing of substance to say. Except please Kozzy, come back! I hope nonsense is also allowed here. ;-)

By Craig Custance

July 2, 2007 11:04 PM | Link to this

John - If Kozlov signs, the Thrashers are all but done with free agency. If he doesn’t, then maybe Belanger would become a possibility. Either way Souray isn’t an option.

Geneen: I think that’s officially the first Top Gun reference on this blog. I once took a movie appreciation class at Michigan State taught by the guy who wrote the screenplay for Top Gun. I’m pretty sure that was the only 4.0 I got in 4-years of college.

By R. Stroz

July 2, 2007 11:10 PM | Link to this

Craig - How about another poll on fan preferences on potential free agents, if you catch my drift.

By Tony C.

July 2, 2007 11:24 PM | Link to this

Top Gun rules!

By Tim

July 2, 2007 11:32 PM | Link to this

John you really want Sourray with the Thrashers and his… -28. Well it is true we gonna score tons on PP… but watching PK and Even Strenght will be painfull at least.

By Chad

July 2, 2007 11:33 PM | Link to this

I’ve been waiting to hear word on Kozlov for a couple days now, IF he does not re-sign what are Waddell’s options for a plan B? Do players like Danius Zubrus or Mike Comrie have a chance at being signed by the Thrashers?

By R. Stroz

July 2, 2007 11:35 PM | Link to this

I’m beginning to think DW’s five year plan just took another two year intermission.

By Legion of thrash

July 2, 2007 11:38 PM | Link to this

So we just got a d man that is slower than DeVries for what reason.

I wonder what the Wadell lovers will say about this.

A couple days ago he said our defense was set! So much for the “youth movement”.

By R. Stroz

July 2, 2007 11:41 PM | Link to this

I’m beginning to think DW’s five year plan just took another two year intermission.

By R. Stroz

July 3, 2007 12:10 AM | Link to this

What did the owners say to the GM?

NO MONEY! NO MONEY! NO MONEY!

By Tim

July 3, 2007 12:11 AM | Link to this

Klee, just like Zitnick, is still mobile for his age. And I dont think he is slower then DeVries (now he also come cheaper). And I don’t think having 3 rookies in your lineup is a good idea neither, so I welcome the addition of Klee. How lest just hope that BH will not neglect the youngster and overplaying Klee, Havelid and Zitnick.

By R. Stroz

July 3, 2007 12:32 AM | Link to this

Here’s my outside the box thought of the day.

Since several teams have tapped out their salary cap for years to come by spending like drunken sailors this year, who are the top tier players that go UFA next year? The teams with cap room next year may be able to pick up better deals.

Just an idea.

By Matt

July 3, 2007 1:32 AM | Link to this

We are in just as good as a position as last year with the guys we currently have on our roster, and on paper, are still the best team in the division. Nobody has upgraded. Everyone who is seeing this offseason in a negative light should do some rethinking.

By The Falconer

July 3, 2007 1:54 AM | Link to this

Some thoughts after reading Craig’s Kozlov story. The Thrashers sit at roughly $40 million after they pay Exelby. If they offered Slava a deal that paid him $3.5 per year that means that DW’s budget is right around $43-44 million with perhaps another million and change for bench slots and injuried players.

Now I’m curious about the statement that if Slava doesn’t accept the deal he’s pretty much done other than picking up one or two more players. That sounds to me like maybe he was given permission to go high to retain Kozlov but if that doesn’t happen he has to stick to the budget number.

I can’t say that I’m shocked, but I was holding out hope that the team budget might be bigger than that for the coming year. I guess the only way things change is if the ownership suit is resolved but that may not happen for a some time if the loser appeals the decision.

By pondscum

July 3, 2007 2:11 AM | Link to this

Matt is right,what is all the belly aching about anyways about the defense,in my opinion it is BETTER than last years at the start of the season.Klee is an upgrade over Sutton,Devo and Hnidy. Remember the goalie carousel between Theodore and Budaj for the Avs,and he still posted a +18 rating…..c’mon folks think before you speak.

IF Kozlov doesn’t reup (just throw in a couple easily attainable bonuses that won’t count against the cap and his agent will be happy),take a gamble on Yashin with Kovalchuk as linemates. If he’s not asking for the moon (which he really shouldn’t be) then you have the money left over to maybe bring Belanger back as well,or get some more size and grit(Aaron Asham maybe?). Or pony up 1 last dash of cash for 1 of Comrie or Zubrus and call it a day.

We then sit back and watch who wins out on the blueline spot between Popovic,Enstrom ect.,hoping Rucchin returns healthy also.

By David

July 3, 2007 2:19 AM | Link to this

2 days in and I’m very pleased. We haven’t gone out and done something foolish like trying to sign Gomez or Drury that we can’t afford. We also haven’t wasted money on players that are mostly just names in the market. We’ve seemingly picked up some players that fill obvious needs of our club and moving our team in a good direction. I was a little suprised by the Klee signing, but having another Dman really isn’t something to ever complain about.

And as much as I love Kozlov, part of me would love to pick up Marcel Hossa and have a Hossa/Hossa line with Todd White centering.

By Thrasher316J11

July 3, 2007 8:29 AM | Link to this

Klee looks to be a solid veteran addition to the blueline at a good price. Doesnt really fit the “youth movement” message from Waddell but I didnt really want to have 3 rookies in front of Kari either. Between Klee and Zhitnik I am starting to think we have a chance of keeping the shots off the net and we may be able to hold onto a win in the last few minutes of a game.

I will now start the vigil for the signing of Kozlov. He is the last piece of the puzzle and could mean the difference for our season.

pondscum why are asking for Rucchin’s return? Were you out of town all last season. I for one am hoping he is forced to retire or otherwise never be heard of from this franchise. He is slow has very little skills and is gassed 20 seconds into his shift.

john Souray makes no sense at the price he would cost. If we had that much to spend it would be much better invested on a top line center.

By Sara

July 3, 2007 8:35 AM | Link to this

I was highly unamused with the Klee signing until I saw the details. Two years, $1.25 per is acceptable for a guy who’s still functioning. But that should take care of the D for certain. From here on out, Don needs to be focused on his top lines. I want Slava back here as much as anyone, but if it’s getting that tight, they may need to cut him loose. We need two more centers (I’m thinking Belanger and Comrie preferably, I guess I’d settle for Yashin under the right financial circumstances), and another wing. We could probably get two out of three if not nearly all three for the money they are willing to toss at Slava. So, much as I won’t like it, it may be what’s best for the good of the team.

Glad to hear DW has already contacted Hossa about his contract extension and even more pleased to hear Hossa is willing to talk instead of already thinking ahead to all the money he could get on the open market. That’d be a refreshing change (not that I don’t doubt for one moment he’s gonna make sure he gets his). Waiting till the last minute has cost us too many players before and totally screwed Buffalo this year. I sure don’t want that being us next summer.

By Bob

July 3, 2007 8:53 AM | Link to this

Any idea of re-signing Hossa has to wait until the ownership issue is resolved, unless Hoss is willing to sign for 3 or 4 years, and not long term. I’d rather see them lock him up long term.

This ownership issue is really tying things up. I agree with Falconer’s read, looks like the budget is $43 to $44m. I don’t see how we sign Kozlov and a center for that. Frankly, Kozlov isn’t enough, let him go and spend $4m on a center and a winger, we’d be better off. We have no top 2 centers on this team, still!

Hoping Rucchin comes back? Oh my goodness.

By GaVaHokie

July 3, 2007 9:12 AM | Link to this

I still think Jeff O’Neill would be a great addition to this team, and should come relatively cheap. If Hartley can put some fire back in his soul, he could be the steal of free agency… we need the size on our team after all these 5’8” 180 lb players we’ve been signing, and Kovalchuk has proven to play well with bigger forwards on his line.

Ken Klee, you had me at, “I try to put pressure on myself to be the player you can count on in the last two minutes.”

I will never forget Andy Sutton missing, actually never attempting, to make his body check on Brindamour this past season and Carolina won with .5 seconds left in regulation.

By Adam

July 3, 2007 9:25 AM | Link to this

CC, any word on Comrie? I noticed the post about reading between the lines, does that mean DW is short on cash or not interested?

Also have you asked DW on the outside possibility on snatching up Marcel?

Thanks for the updates!!!

By GaVaHokie

July 3, 2007 9:35 AM | Link to this

Ugh… according to fourthperiod.com, the offer for Kozlov from Atlanta is 3 years $10-$12 million… that’s not enough. Ottawa, Toronto and Dallas are all involved.

http://thefourthperiod.com/news/atl070703.html

By Adam

July 3, 2007 9:36 AM | Link to this

Bob, I’d say at this time Hossa would be the only player the “owners” wouldn’t have a problem with a long term signing. I don’t think Belkin would balk at a deal that was 5 or more years.

By Pickle

July 3, 2007 9:40 AM | Link to this

Well, I would have given Wadell a c- on the free agency moves, but now I would give him an F after signing Klee. We just signed a player that is older and slower than Devries. Everyone will see what a bad move this was about 5 games into the season.

By Craig Custance

July 3, 2007 9:57 AM | Link to this

Also - I meant to mention that Klee can play some forward if needed. He was at forward when the Thrashers beat the Avs in February (or was it January?)

By Thrasher in Hosuton

July 3, 2007 9:59 AM | Link to this

Craig,

The Thrash always seem to underachieve in relation to my expectations with the exception of the first couple years. This year I am trying to temper my expectations. Then seeing the departure of Tchachuk, Belanger, Sutton, De Vries, Sim and probably Kozlov does not have me overly excited for the 07-08 season. Without the addition of Tchachuk, Belanger, Zhitnik and Dupuis, the Thrash don’t make the playoffs in 06-07. As it was, it came down to the last week and a first round sweep. Tell me I’m wrong and that the new additions (the return of Rucchin, ???), the youngsters and some addition by subtraction has made this team as good or better than the previous model.

By Craig Custance

July 3, 2007 10:01 AM | Link to this

Adam: The priority right now is Kozlov, if they can’t get him done Comrie might be an option, but I don’t think the Thrashers are as interested in him as people think.

By Bob

July 3, 2007 10:09 AM | Link to this

Pickle, you’re right. Those of us that watch CenterIce like crack addicts have seen Klee on the Craps and the Avs and know what a pylon he is. I’d take Mandy over Klee every day, and twice on Sunday. DeVries as well.

I had the exact same reaction last year when we signed Rucchin and told some of these same guys that are hopeful for Klee, what a slow old dog Rucchin was, but got the same reaction from some of them.

How these guys still support Waddell after his year and year of woeful defensive signings, etc. is beyond me.

There is an absolute litany of woeful dman free agent signings Waddell makes every summer. Anyone care to go over them? I’ve washed the painful memories of many of them away, but here’s some that come to mind:

Uwe Krupp, Smehlik, Modry, Klee, who remembers the rest of these shlubs he brings in every summer?

By Thrasher in Houston

July 3, 2007 10:17 AM | Link to this

Hey Bob,

How about Ivan Majesky and Todd Reardon?

By buzilla baby blues

July 3, 2007 10:29 AM | Link to this

I have to think that what Waddel is doing is giving Kari a defence in front of him. From the fowards to the D. I expect to see another solid d-man and a few d-minded fowards if Kozlov isn’t signed. We have never been known as a defensive team. Maybe we will be this year.

X hasn’t signed yet has he?

By GaVaHokie

July 3, 2007 10:50 AM | Link to this

Buzz… I think Exelby will go to arbitration.

Craig… I’m glad to hear we’re not interested in Comrie. I’m pleased to hear that Yashin is Plan “B”. I think he’s the right player to put between Hossa and Kovy and have them work together for once on the top line.

Everyone else…Stop crying about Ken Klee, we paid next to nothing for him and he’s got more hockey sense than Sutton. He’s not my favorite either, but he’s hardly worth crying about.

By Hip Czech

July 3, 2007 10:50 AM | Link to this

X can’t sign until the 5th…if he accepts the offer tendered

By R. Stroz

July 3, 2007 10:50 AM | Link to this

Does anyone have the feeling the Thrashers are feeding us spam and calling it filet mignon?

By GaVaHokie

July 3, 2007 11:14 AM | Link to this

Stroz… no, I don’t. I think it is what it is. I don’t think Atlanta is trying to call it Filet Mignon, I think people are just EXPECTING Filet Mignon.

By Russ

July 3, 2007 11:15 AM | Link to this

The part of the Klee signing that is really exciting to me is that now there will be three (maybe four if Exelby signs) veteran D-men that Hartley will trust. I look forward to seeing each of them play 25-30 minutes per game and being completely out of gas by about game 20, while Enstrom, Popovic, and Oystrick alternate between playing 7 minutes, being a healthy scratch, or playing in the AHL. Yes sir, no one develops young talent like the Thrasher organization. The draft history is spotty at best and then when there is a player that can fill a roster spot the coach isn’t willing to give him the necessary ice time to get up to speed at the NHL level. Good stuff!!!

By R. Stroz

July 3, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this

GaVaHokie - I prefer filet mignon to spam; but, I do expect a good angus burger.

By Brendan

July 3, 2007 11:20 AM | Link to this

An interesting item to pass along from TSN.ca. Note the YEAR AHEAD OF SCHEDULE contract signing. “Think Hossa.” Here’s the news clip.

“It looks like the Calgary Flames are about to lock up a key component of their defence corps. The Flames have agreed to terms with defenceman Robyn Regehr on a five-year contract extension, worth $20-million.

Regehr, 27, has played all of his 509 career NHL games with Calgary and the 6-foot-2, 226-pound blueliner is regarded as one of the league’s better defensive defencemen.

Last season, Regehr had 21 points and was plus-27 in 78 games.

Regehr’s current contract expires at the end of next season, so the new deal will kick in beginning in 2008-2009 season.

The deal will pay Regehr a $1-million signing bonus, then $3.5-million in the first two seasons, and $4-million in each of the next three seasons. The deal also includes a no movement clause.

By Sage of Bluesland

July 3, 2007 11:28 AM | Link to this

Well, at least the next GM won’t be burdened with too many Briere-like contracts…That’s one thing to be thankful for.

Outside of that, recognize what this team is and what its real aspirations are. Once accepted, it makes for a completely different perspective.

Maybe Brilliant Donny will spend all of his valuable time “improving” Team USA hockey once this charade is over?

By Chris

July 3, 2007 11:38 AM | Link to this

Klee signing is all right. Zhitnik can’t play 30 a nite like he was down the stretch last season and you need some vet minutes so guys like Popovic can be worked in on the 3rd pair.

By R. Stroz

July 3, 2007 11:44 AM | Link to this

Here’s my question concerning Klee for those that know his style of play, will Klee put someone on their butt that is standing in front of the net?

Put another way, does he hit like Mandy or like X?

By Thrasher Ryan

July 3, 2007 12:03 PM | Link to this

Methinks Hnidy’s next to go…

By Hip Czech

July 3, 2007 12:04 PM | Link to this

From NHL.com:

“Slava Kozlov scored 80 points last year with Atlanta and he’s still out there. Same goes for Teemu Selanne, who is mulling retirement despite coming off a 48-goal year with the Cup champion Ducks. Sheldon Souray scored 64 points from the blue line last year with Montreal and it’s a surprise he hasn’t been snatched up yet, even if he recently underwent arthroscopic shoulder surgery. Defenseman Brad Stuart is still out there, same as center Michael Peca, forward Eric Lindros and Peter Forsberg. The grittiest guy still up for grabs is Darren McCarty. The guy with the most offensive upside must be 26-year-old Mike Comrie.

If you were here from the early 1990’s and had dropped in on the current free agent season fresh out of a time machine, then you would be wondering how guys like Jeremy Roenick, Eric Lindros, Tony Amonte, Peter Forsberg, Dominik Hasek, Ed Belfour, Alexander Mogilny, Brendan Shanahan, Bill Guerin, and Trevor Linden are still available.”

Forget Kozlov, Comrie, or Stuart…we’ll wind up with Roenick, Lindros and Mogilny.

Maybe we can utilize home ice a la baseball. You know, grow the grass high to slow down the other team. Maybe we only Zamboni the ice every third game.

By weneedslava

July 3, 2007 12:04 PM | Link to this

One of my concerns about losing Slava is who’s going to help win the shootouts. I mean Slava is one of the best in the league in shootouts and behind him we have Hossa. But once you get pass those two we have noone, Kovy is awful in the shootouts. Every year it seems like we play about 10 games that end in the shootouts. It sure is nice to have Slava and Hossa out there winning as many as we can and racking up as many extra points as we can.

By GaVaHokie

July 3, 2007 12:25 PM | Link to this

Stroz… Klee is a hitter, but not as much as he used to be. Which actually is a GOOD thing because he used to get injured a lot… my memory of him was taking stupid penalties and being over-aggressive at the wrong times. Looking at his numbers over the last two years, it would seem he’s more responsible.

I think a good way to summarize him is to take Andy Sutton’s potential and fast-forward 4 years experience.

By Matt H

July 3, 2007 1:06 PM | Link to this

I haven’t seen him play in a while, but I remember liking Klee when he played for the Caps. He was always pretty solid.

Also, for those who are worried by this acquisition, keep in mind he was a +18 on a team that didn’t even make it into the playoffs.

Go back and look at the +/- ratings for the Thrashers last season. Not pretty.

This 1.25 million/yr player comes into the Thrashers with a +/- the same as our highest paid player (Hossa) and gives us a legitimate NHL D pairing.

This is not cause to shake your head in wonder and disgust. He is not ALF.

Now, if Kozlov ain’t gonna re-sign, we go out and get Lindros or Roenick, buy your ticket to Melmac.

I’m crossin’ my fingers hard for Comrie and/or Souray…

By Bob

July 3, 2007 1:14 PM | Link to this

Hokie, Klee is a pylon, always has been. I have no idea how he put up a +18, he’s not quick enough to get into position to hit anyone. He was a cheap shot artist on the Craps, but not an X type hitter by any means.

Houston Thrash, Ivan Majesky and Todd Reardon Ahhh! My eyes are burning just reading those names. Klee is this year’s version of Uwe Krupp, Smehlik, Majesky, Reardon, Modry, Adam Burt. Waddell’s good for one of these every year. Can’t wait to see who our top line center is going to be this year.

If they sign Yashin I am going to demand a refund on my tickets, that would be the last straw.

By dink

July 3, 2007 1:22 PM | Link to this

Craig,

What about Boulton? We need a tough guy and I dont think that Thorburn is the answer. The guy is a lightweight. Any word on the negotiations with Bolts?

By ranallo10

July 3, 2007 1:47 PM | Link to this

dink — I don’t think we’re going to see anything along the lines of a “tough guy” for another couple years. Boulton, though not a lightweight, is definitely not a heavy. I was most impressed by how he didn’t get clobbered by Colton Orr, but typically he’s involved in receiving more punches than punishing someone with his own. The other problem is that Boulton is expected to do more than just fight (unlike George Parros, Georges Laraque, Donald Brashear, and the other bonafide HEAVYweights)…and that’s something he might not be good enough to do. Thorburn is younger, has more offensive upside, and can still play the role that Boulton has for this team (which is occassionally get beat up by the opponent in a lopsided fight).

Don’t get me wrong, I enjoyed watching Boulton kamikaze over the goalies when he’d try to stop at the crease…but I don’t think what he brought the team is irreplaceable. He definitely earned me as a fan for giving a little dude a high-five after warmups, after every person (‘cept for Modry) skipped past the kid without attempting to touch the kids hand.

As for the future tough guys, watch for Desbiens and Valabik to make an immediate impact as enforcers once called up. Desbiens has some front of the net ability, and Valabik is HUGE, so both have a second dimension (beyond fighting). Desbiens is a riot though, if you don’t know who he is you should YouTube or GoogleVideo him.

By Thrashers27

July 3, 2007 1:54 PM | Link to this

One thing to think about is that we do still have Krog, Haydar and Sterling in the system. The three of them played very well together in Chi-Town last year. Who’s to say they couldn’t put up similar numbers in the NHL. I’m not saying they’ll put up the huge numbers they did in the AHL, but even if it’s 75%, that’s a damn good line.

Another thing I realized is that Klee was +18 with 19 points of his own last year. Make what you will of that.

By GaVaHokie

July 3, 2007 1:56 PM | Link to this

Bob… Klee is a stay at home defenseman, a true blueliner, he doesn’t have to be fast.

Yashin had 50 points in 58 games last year, the majority of that time with Jason Blake and Miro Satan… switch those two with Hossa and Kovalchuk, what do you think his numbers will be?

If he plays 82 games, I think he easily has 60+ points… throw in Todd White’s 40+ points and we have a pretty potent offense… two guys for the price of what Kozlov is going to cost.

Kovalchuk/Yashin/Hossa… Sterling/White/Slater… Larsen/Holik/Dupuis… Haydar/Krog/Perrin

By erock

July 3, 2007 2:13 PM | Link to this

HORDICHUK IS THE BADDEST FIGHTER IN THE NHL…DROP EM !!!!

By Brendan

July 3, 2007 2:24 PM | Link to this

Is this lineup: Kovalchuk/Yashin/Hossa…, Sterling/White/Slater…,Larsen/Holik/Dupuis…, and Haydar/Krog/Perrin … one that instills utter TERROR for opposing coaches?

Okay, that wasn’t fair. At all. But yet … the reality of pulling off a lineup thought to be a “shoo in” to repeat as division champs … is becoming an ever daunting task.

By ranallo10

July 3, 2007 2:30 PM | Link to this

Hokie — I can’t argue against Yashin beyond his overinflated contract and his apparent complacency…he can produce, no doubt. At the right price, I’d welcome him to the fold. I’d welcome him well before I’d welcome Conroy.

erock — Hordichuk is solid. Your opinion, though not agreed upon, has been duly noted. Boogaard is solid, but the general consensus around most fight fans is Georges Laraque (though I don’t like him personally). Hordichuk I think qualifies (size wise) as a tough middleweight…I wouldn’t want my enforcer to mess with him.

By Brendan

July 3, 2007 2:38 PM | Link to this

Let’s try to remember something else. This ISSSS Holik’s “contract year.” Whatever constitutes the “best he’s got left” is what we’ll probably see. Ifffff there’s a lucrative contract left in Bobby Holik, he’s got to earn it THIS YEAR. He’ll put up better numbers on the 2nd line, potentially, than on the 3rd line. $4.25 million, by Waddell’s OWN ADMISSION, is too much to pay a 3rd line center.

Belanger is a 3rd line center.

Belanger should be paid $1.5 million. We could have nearly 3 Belangers for Holik’s salary.

On second thought, let’s try not to think of that.

By GaVaHokie

July 3, 2007 2:46 PM | Link to this

Brendan… my first line could be tops in the league.

The second line, is fast and creative. If Sterling can get comfortable and Slater can get over his sophomore slump, I like that line.

The third line, could be Top 8 in the league for a checking line.

Fourth line… not so much… I don’t like it. I’m hating Krog’s NHL only contract right about now.

By David

July 3, 2007 3:01 PM | Link to this

Everyody is so negative about Ken Klee and he hasn’t even skated for us yet, give the man a chance.

By Bob

July 3, 2007 3:04 PM | Link to this

Hokie, most teams have a real shut down top d pairing and checking forwards they throw out against your top line every night, that’s why Hoss and Kovy do not play on the same line.

Yashin is a cancer. That’s why I don’t want him wearing a sweater I root for.

By LLB

July 3, 2007 3:14 PM | Link to this

I live in Dallas (TX) and I just heard on the radio that Kozlov is out here talking to the Stars.

By GaVaHokie

July 3, 2007 3:17 PM | Link to this

Bob, that’s why I like the speed of my second line and also having Dupuis and Holik on the Third line… those lines will put up points. Besides, Kovalchuk will always get his shots, regardless.

Savard was supposed to be a cancer too.

By Brendan

July 3, 2007 3:19 PM | Link to this

I was purusing cbs.sportsline.com/nhl and saw some interesting things. I don’t if they’re accurate, or what. But it says Tampa Bay’s LW, Ruslan Fedotenko, 28 years old, is unsigned and an unrestricted free agent. Fedotenko scored HUGE goals for the Bolts in 2004, including two in Game Seven of the Cup clinching game. He played 80 games, netting 12 goals and 20 helps, for 32-points, and was a -3, with 52 pims, with 16:15 in average ice time. I don’t know what it might cost for him. But would he wish to stick it to Tampa Bay for not re-signing him, by coming to Atlanta?

Shrugs. I don’t know. I have the feeling he’d want good money. But 12 goals in 80 games isn’t exactly “awe inspiring.” And being minus-3, isn’t either.

Former Thrashers Center, Randy Robitaille, is unrestricted and unsigned. I suspect the Isles will come through. They’ve got to fill out a roster. Robitaille played 78 games, with 11 goals, 29 assists, for 40-points, but was -6, with 44 penalty minutes, and only 14:04 in average ice time. Robtaille is 32.

Carolina’s Defenseman David Tanabe remains unsigned. He is 27. American. And played 60 games for the ‘Canes last season. He scored 5 goals, with 12 assists, for 17-points, but was a +5, with 44 pims, and 17:48 in ice time. Without knowing what he’d cost, he might have been a better route than Ken Klee. Maybe it’s not too late to make him an offer? He’s UNRESTRICTED, per CBS.SPORTSLINE.COM/NHL.

The ‘Canes Centerman Josef Vasicek is still unsigned and unrestricted. He played 63 games, with 6 goals, 16 helpers, for 22-points. He was a -5, with 22 pims, and only 13:22 in ice time. He’s 27 years old. I think GM Rutherford drafted him, so he may re-sign him. But if doesn’t, that’s another guy who might want to stick it to Carolina 8X a year, for a modest salary.

Any of these guys REMOTELY grab you???

By GaVaHokie

July 3, 2007 3:20 PM | Link to this

Zubrus signed with the New Jersey Devils… off the market.

By Brendan

July 3, 2007 3:28 PM | Link to this

David, there is a hyper-sensitivity that exists on this board, and elsewhere, over the annual stockpiling of “greybeards” for this team. I agree that Klee hasn’t stepped foot on Thrasher ice, wearing Thrasher blue. The frustration you are reading stems from a desire for change with a youth movement. Instead, a 36-year defenseman was just signed to a two-year contract.

I’m willing to give Klee a chance. But it’s not changing longstanding “perceptions” of Waddell’s penchant for this type of signing.

Hokie, please check out Bob’s post just above. Fair or not, the names Yashin and Hossa are linked to playoff underachievement. And a good “shutdown” line, like the Rangers had and Ottawa had, can effectively force a team, even with a Kovy, Yashin, Hossa line, to rely on its “depth” to defeat them. And if the “depth” doesn’t deliver, the postseason ends ingloriously.

By Thrashers27

July 3, 2007 3:30 PM | Link to this

I’ve heard rumours of Fedotenko off and on for a couple of months. He’d be a great pick-up. I think Yashin mioght be worth taking a chance on. We just need someone to work with Kovy.

By Hip Czech

July 3, 2007 3:33 PM | Link to this

Just saw this on the transaction list:

*American Hockey League

WORCESTER SHARKS-Re-signed D Patrick Traverse to a two-year contract.*

I hope he is a bruiser defenseman…it would be way cool to play ‘Out go the lights’ on a Pat Traverse hit

By GaVaHokie

July 3, 2007 3:33 PM | Link to this

Brendan, actually Vasicek was offered to us by Nashville for Vishnevsky. Waddell didn’t want him. That spurred the trade of Vasicek for Bellanger between Nashville and Carolina THEN Waddell made the deal for Bellanger… when Vasicek left, my friend in Carolina said he never wanted to see him in a Hurricane uniform again… he wasn’t happy when Carolina got him back. :)

I like Fedetenko, but I think there’s only one of two moves left to make… resign Kozlov or go with Yashin. I’m not saying that on my own accord… I really think that’s what is going on behind close doors.

By ranallo10

July 3, 2007 4:02 PM | Link to this

Hokie — Custance is making it sound like what you said is right. Basically Kozlov gets resigned, or they go after Yashin.

There was a rumor floating around that New Jersey was about to do a BIG trade (I believe Lamariello said a “head turner”)…I’m curious if this Zubrus signing might spur that trade.

By Tim

July 3, 2007 4:05 PM | Link to this

Funny how some people booos “The One who shall not be named” because of the way he left Atlanta yet welcome Yashin. Anyone remember his contract dispute with Ottawa, one that end with a personal strike?

By ranallo10

July 3, 2007 4:13 PM | Link to this

Zubrus played it smart…he stuck to his “$15M for 5 years” with Washington, got traded to a contender, and now got an extra year and an extra $5.4M out of another contender (6yrs $20.4M).

By Denny

July 3, 2007 4:15 PM | Link to this

ranalo10 = Best Blog of the Day! Per your recommend I just watched Despien “pound” on Donally and Prust. He has a right hand “Air Hammer” and not too bad with the left that he used on Prust. If Despien could skate and plays D like he fights, the Thashers have no worries on D or Enforcer.

By Thrasher Ryan

July 3, 2007 4:26 PM | Link to this

Eric Belanger just signed with the Minnesota Wild.

By ranallo10

July 3, 2007 4:33 PM | Link to this

Unfortunately Denny, he’s a winger. I meant by “front of the net ability” in regards to planting near the crease and deflecting shots or knocking in rebounds (alah Tkachuk, Tomas Holmstrom, etc).

But I definitely think he’ll be a solid enforcer and third line winger for this team. If he can soften his hands and fix his skating “issues”, I think he could even be a nice agitator on the top 2 lines (that’s wishful thinking though).

“Air Hammer” — solid. If you noticed, he hit Donally so hard he hurt his own hand (kinda like Tkachuk on the Canadian dude whose name eludes me, Bouillon I think). It was great watching the kid skate to the box with a broken nose while Desbiens sauntered to the box. If you got the same clip, they even showed Donally looking over in a “who the hell just punched me” manner while Desbiens just ignored him.

By Denny

July 3, 2007 4:34 PM | Link to this

THE SEASON DOES NOT DEPEND ON KOZLOV or another UFA SIGNING: Remember their is a second UFA market in August. It will be for all those players that are released when their teams refuse to accept the arbitrators designated contracts.

It will be July 5th before the arbitration list is known, and another month before the rulings with a good percentage of the players in arbitration being released when teams decide they can’t afford the contract. Those teams that have salary cap money available may have a some choice pickings from the released players.

So the season is not lost if Koslov leaves.

By R. Stroz

July 3, 2007 4:35 PM | Link to this

In regards to Despiens & Valabik, bring up the Hanson Brothers for some old time hockey.

By Thrasher Ryan

July 3, 2007 4:35 PM | Link to this

Belanger — 3 years, 5.2 million

(http://www.rds.ca/hockey/chroniques/232142.html)

By JayBird

July 3, 2007 4:37 PM | Link to this

Where did you get that info about Belanger, Thrasher Ryan?

By ranallo10

July 3, 2007 4:37 PM | Link to this

Thrasher Ryan — good catch; 3 years $5.2M

By Chris

July 3, 2007 4:43 PM | Link to this

Denny - good point. Good chance to bolster the forward group then though no big names.

I was impressed with Belanger in his time here but he never has previously achieved any level of consistency. Seems like a good fit though for Minnesota’s style.

By R. Stroz

July 3, 2007 4:44 PM | Link to this

Thrashers sign White, Wild sign Belanger. Sounds like a swap to me.

By Russ

July 3, 2007 4:52 PM | Link to this

I think Slater is looking like a big key to the Thrashers season at this point. When he first came up as a rookie I thought he looked like he could develop into a legitimate #2 center. Last year he struggled, obviously. If he can get back on track and be a reliable option to play with the likes of Kovalchuk or Hossa it would be a tremendous boost. If he picks up where he left off last season the Thrashers will be razor thin at center just like last season.

By Thrasher Ryan

July 3, 2007 4:52 PM | Link to this

R. Stroz — Sounds like we’re gonna miss out on EVERYBODY.

By Brian

July 3, 2007 5:03 PM | Link to this

Brendan - I like your lines, but I go with Bob and say break up Hossa & Kovy.

R. Stroz - sounds like a swap to me too, but who will be better with Hoss, White or Belanger?

Tim - nice point, this is why some are hestitant on him. But if he does gel with Kovy and becomes a point/game center for us, would you mind? If he signs at a discount, I’m willing to take the gamble. I clearly state that it’s a gamble, but at a reduced salary we are hedging our bets.

Craig - sorry to get off topic here, but since you took a class from the screenwriter, what do you think of Quentin Tarantino’s theory on the hidden meaning of Top Gun?

By R. Stroz

July 3, 2007 5:05 PM | Link to this

I think DW is saving money to re-sign Vigier in order to pi$$ Ranallo10 off.

By R. Stroz

July 3, 2007 5:10 PM | Link to this

Brian - If we don’t resign Kozzie, our comparison between White and Belanger will not be a properly controlled experiment.

By ranallo10

July 3, 2007 5:22 PM | Link to this

Weird association here…looking at Vigier’s media guide picture, who does he look similar to? Pic 1 [Pic 2] (http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app?page=PlayerDetail&playerId=8468443&service=page)

Okay, next, what city is he from??

Finally (I know, it’s tough conclusion to come to)…what’s his name supposed to be?

Answer soon to come.

By R. Stroz

July 3, 2007 5:23 PM | Link to this

ThrasherRyan - Of our 12 UFA’s here is the status report.

1 - player retired (Mellanby)

4 - signed elsewhere (Tkachuk, Sim, Belanger, DeVries)

2 - will probably sign somewhere else (Hnidy, Sutton)

3 - status unknown (Kozlov, Boulton, Vigier)

2 - re-signed (Dupuis, Larsen)

By Thrashers27

July 3, 2007 5:59 PM | Link to this

“JP love Chunk!”

I think he looks more like Sloth from “Goonies”, but I smell what you’re cookin’, ranallo. I’ve always thought that he and Koz were two of the goofiest lookin’ guys in hockey.

By ranallo10

July 3, 2007 6:04 PM | Link to this

Beautiful Thrashers27, he does look like Sloth. I think the picture in the Thrasher’s Winger (or whatever they call the game program) is different than the two I linked.

“SPORTS RADIO 1310 THE TICKET: reported UFA winger Slava Kozlov is in Dallas and may be close to a deal”

By R. Stroz

July 3, 2007 6:25 PM | Link to this

If Slava signs with Dallas and Belanger was plan B if Slava signed somewhere else, what is plan C? Patrick Stefanie

By Thrashers27

July 3, 2007 6:29 PM | Link to this

Well, if he’s gonna go, I’d rather see him go to the west and do his damage out there. I just hope he’ll give DW an opportunity to match.

By Geneen

July 3, 2007 6:43 PM | Link to this

Not sure if you guys saw it or not (haven’t had a chance to read all of the entries above), but the Dallas Morning News’ Stars blog (http://starsblog.dallasnews.com/) reports that Slava is in Dallas, that he’s toured their facilities, met with Mike Modano, Sergei Zubov and Brendan Morrow. And that Slava is “supposed to be flying back to Atlanta tonight to make a decision.”

As Viper told Maverick in Top Gun, “You gotta let him go.” That’s what I keep telling myself. (Alas!)

By Thrashers27

July 3, 2007 6:51 PM | Link to this

I just read that Slava’s agent is the brother of the Stars President. Come on Slava, you know you want to stay here and chase the cup.

By Craig Custance

July 3, 2007 7:30 PM | Link to this

Also, Dallas president Jim Lites played a big role in bringing Slava over from Russia when Lites was in Detroit.

By R. Stroz

July 3, 2007 7:37 PM | Link to this

Thrashers27 - If your information is accurate concerning Slava’s agent, we might as well get ready for the Yashin experiment to start. YIKES!

By ranallo10

July 3, 2007 7:59 PM | Link to this

Stroz — Maybe I’m alone in this, but I wouldn’t mind seeing Stefan back in Atlanta. Feel free to rip me (anybody), but I had no problem with his play while he was in Atlanta. I know, he didn’t play like a first round draft pick, but he wasn’t BAD. He was a solid #3 center, and was a fine enough two-way center to play on the top lines in Atlanta. I’d be happy to see Stefan between Hossa and Kozlov, with White playing on Kovalchuk’s line.

Quasimodo

By ranallo10

July 3, 2007 8:03 PM | Link to this

Brad Stuart to Los Angeles for 1 year $3.5M — they’re definitely getting much better.

I think I’m envious of the Kings fans right now…

By The Falconer

July 3, 2007 9:20 PM | Link to this

Ranallo10: I’m pretty sure you are ALONE in wanting Stefan back! :)

By Bob

July 3, 2007 9:49 PM | Link to this

Stefan can skate, is defensively responsible and can be had for a low priced contract. There are worse options.

By kbatch26

July 3, 2007 9:53 PM | Link to this

…all the complaints about having only 3rd and 4th line centers, and you want to bring in Stefan… another 3rd line center? Can’t follow the logic there…

By The Falconer

July 3, 2007 11:13 PM | Link to this

The Kings are adding veterans AND they have great young players in Kopitar, O’Sullivan, and Defebseman J. Johnson who Carolina gave away last year.

By Sage of Bluesland

July 3, 2007 11:24 PM | Link to this

Spin away, Waddellites…What next, what kind of chocolate Ranallo likes to receive on Valentine’s Day?

How utterly sad. Oh well, seat-belt ready for Year Eight of Don’s Five-Year-Plan…It’s going to be a rough landing!

By ranallo10

July 4, 2007 12:12 AM | Link to this

I’m not a chocolate fan Sage, but if I had to choose I’d go with dark chocolate. Thanks for asking, you’re very kind. Though, I must admit it sounds a little homosexual of you to be offering me Valentine’s chocolate, but I’m not one to hate a person for their sexual practices.

I agree Bob, Stefan can skate, is defensively responsible, and should be less expensive than Belanger.

kbatch26 — I never complained about having only 3rd and 4th line centers, so I’m not sure what logic of MINE you’re having trouble followin. Stefan is arguably a 2nd line center at most, more realisticly a 3rd line center. It’s already been established by members of this blog that White and Holik will likely be the top 2 line centers (based on what Waddell has been quoted, past roles of players, and current talent on the roster). That now being a considered understood, I’d be happy to add Stefan back to the fold as our number 3 center, and let Thorburn or Slater fight for the 4th line spot.

By Geneen

July 4, 2007 12:29 AM | Link to this

Everything here just makes me sad. Except for the idea of Stefan coming back, which kind of makes me giggle. When he was here, at least he was better than Kapanen. sigh

I am currently in the “Bargaining” stage of grief. There’s just depression left before I can accept that Kozlov is going to be gone.

By Brendan

July 4, 2007 1:40 AM | Link to this

I know I’m gonna take a beating for this post, but here goes. The problem with Stefan wasn’t that he was an incapable 3rd line center. It was … that’s not where any fan or GM hopes the 1st overall pick in a draft will land on the roster. Pretty much, ever. At any point in the player’s career.

Here’s the other problem. Stefan gets knocked off the puck in the corner boards. A lot. As far as the regular season goes, the Thrashers could be FINE with Patrik Stefan. He’ll draw a bunch of penalties, potentially. But come playoff time, and opponent like the Rangers or Senators, Devils or Flyers, or even the Penguins, comes along and Stefan becomes ineffective. Not enought “grit.”

I do realize that the only season that matters is the playoffs. That’s why all these GM’s are goin’ nuts trying to prepare their teams for favorable seeding in the playoffs.

But here me out … first ya gotta get to the playoffs to do something in the playoffs. Stefan is defensively sound. Stefan does have speed. And aside from a horribly embarrassing incident out in Dallas, where he missed an empty net on a breakaway from point blank that would closed out a Stars win, (the other team recovered the puck and scored, making Stefan an unceremonious goat,) Stefan does have some decent offensive skills. My favorite Stefan moment may have been when the Thrashers squandered a 6-2 lead to the Red Wings at Philips Arena, with either Garnett or Berkhoel in net, and Stefan scored a beauty to save the day, in 7-6 win. That, or his rookie season, when he chased the Dominator out of the Buffalo net, in a 5-5 tie. The Thrashers very 1st ever point in the standings. (Shoulda been a win, Atlanta led 5-3 after 2 periods, but I digress.)

Stefan can be a bit of “playmaker.” He does have some good instincts. He’s not worth $1 million. He’s probably not worth $900,000. But I bet, just to reclaim some ICE TIME, and a chance to redeem himself, he’d do a one-year deal with Atlanta. Maybe as low as $750,000? Thinking it could be a springboard to a future contract, somewhere in the league.

Don Waddell did draft him. So? So, for some reason, GM’s like to try to reclaim their picks, especially if they still think they’re “right” about them. Atlanta could do far worse than Stefan as a 3rd or 4th line center. What’s the latest on his “concussion” problems?

I don’t know that Todd White is a 1st line Center. Or that Holik can still be a 2nd line Center. What “big name” center is left, who isn’t surviving more on yesteryear’s reputation or who isn’t a “cancer” on a lockerroom?

By pondscum

July 4, 2007 2:51 AM | Link to this

HA-HA,made you look with the Rucchin comment! Seriously,maybe if he makes it back,we can deal to the Coyotes or something…..cause not a damn soul seems to want to go there at this point ( you know Gretz has gotta be scratching his head).May even get a first rounder for him.LOL!.

Anyways, 1 thing that ALL of the players we have signed so far have in common is there PK abilities.We all know we sucked on the PK for the majority of the year last season….so that’s ok with me that we’re trying to get better in that area.

Now, after all the reading and blog looking I’ve done I just have 1 thing to say…..to hell with Kozlov and his 2 faced,next of kin,deeper in, brotherly love agent.

Go ahead and take a gamble on Yashin. Forget “he pulled my hair” Comrie also.Now that Zubrus is gone, take a low cost swipe at Yashin…..then maybe someone at arbitration comes along (like J.P. Dumont did for the Preds last summer).

But, I really do think that Yashin and Kovy would be really good together and Kovy would really help rejuvenate him.Never ever did I think I would type “I want Yashin”,but after thinking about it….. again if it’s a “low dollar amount”….the reward could be bigger than the risk.

By Geneen

July 4, 2007 3:52 AM | Link to this

It seems to me — and I could be wrong here — that one of the assets Kozzy brings to the table is his ability to be a mentor to Kovalchuk. Is Yashin the kind of role model (in work ethic? in character?) that we’re looking for?

Just askin’…

By BigAl

July 4, 2007 9:13 AM | Link to this

Geneen I too know the leadership and attitude that Kozzy demonstrates both on and off the ice are eventually going to “rub off” on Kovy. But Kovy would never admit that he learned from Kozzy because Kovy is a punk and has no respect for anyone but Kovy!

Brennan, Bob and others The reason Kovy and Hossa are NEVER on the same LINE except PP????? THEY DON’T PASS! No other reason.

When did our PP really go to sh@t? When Tkachuk arrived and Kozzy went to #2 PP with Bellanger. All of a sudden Hossa and Kovy weren’t getting those awesome passes that Kozzy puts out from the corners and behind the net.

With regards to Kozzy going to Dallas; OUR LOSS! Dallas’ gain! The Atlanta Spirit group is in such “turmoil” they don’t know their a$$ from their elbow! DW should have made Kozzy the proper offer from day one ie. long before the July 1 deadline but DW is hampered by the “too many Chiefs and not enough Indians” leadership of our team owners (no offense to any Native Americans or Canadians on that last quote!).

Bottom line is we are going to lose our best candidate for a Captain to lead these guys for the next 3 years and we won’t have a “snowballs chance in Hell” of signing Hossa or any other big names in the future.

That really sucks!

By Bob

July 4, 2007 9:21 AM | Link to this

Ok, to the “other Bob” that is blogging here, please change your handle to Bob2 or something. I cannot be associated with moronic ideas like bringing Stefan back.

Actually, I don’t even believe ranallo is that dim. I mean, ranallo, you know I think you’re clueless in all things hockey, but I don’t believe you’re that moronic to want Stefan back.

That’s just ranallo playing games, right?

Stefan. lol.

If we sign Yashin, that is it. He is a complete cancer. He’s not an unknown that had a problem with one coach like Savard did in Calgary. He is a known quantity. He held out on his contract in Ottawa. He disappears in the playoffs. He stunk so bad last year and fought with the coach enough, they stuck him on the 4th line for a while.

Seriously, if Waddell signs Yashin, he’s even more incompetent than I think. If there’s one thing I respect Waddell for, it’s his integrity. He constantly has preached, and has backed it up through his signings, that he only wants quality character guys here. Yashin is the anti-thesis of that. I refuse to believe that even Waddell is that idiotic to bring Yashin here.

By Pucks n Snot

July 4, 2007 9:41 AM | Link to this

I must be getting old and feeble, because I actually feel sorry for you Gomers down there now. You are consistently one of the worst defensive teams in the league and your GM’s fix is KEN KLEE? Ken Klee wouldn’t even be allowed to shine skates in the Detroit locker room…..this is indeed a desperate, pathetic signing. The Thrashers year after year prove without a doubt that they know nothing about how to build a consistent winner - especially when it comes to playing defensive hockey. Your minor league “talent” offers no hope due to poor coaching. Your “veterans” don’t respect their coach. McCarthy is probably your best d-guy and he sits because Hartley would rather show what a dictator he is than keep the puck of of your net. I hope you enjoyed your very brief playoff experience this year because Atlanta will not even smell the postseason next year. They may set a record for goals allowed with the crap d-men they’ll be trotting out. Teams will be licking their chops when they see Atlanta coming up on the schedule. But at least you have the flashy Kovalchuk to watch, right? Can’t show leadership, can’t play D, can’t step up on the big stage, but man he looks pretty, doesn’t he? Any GM on his last leg like Waddell is trades this bum for what he needs to fill so many gaps. But I forgot, UNGLUEDLAND is a place for posturing, not winning. Enjoy…

By chrisf

July 4, 2007 10:08 AM | Link to this

Kozlov or Bust If DW only has sanction to write one big check or a handful of small ones, then it’s time to add a digit or two in the seventh column on Kozzy’s check and call it a day on UFAs. Yes, there are service-able “parts is parts” guys out there such as Metro, Petro, Friesen, etc…, along with post-prime-time forwards Ricci, Forsberg, Lindros, Linden, Amonte…, but none of these guys bring Kozlov’s intangibles or late-career trajectory with them. If the Thrash can wrap up Slava for another couple years or so (it’s not out of the question to tack another year on as well), DW can complete the remaining patchwork via trade or a couple of UFA leftovers.

Even if the Thrash can keep Kozlov, it’s clear that a top-line, scoring center is not in the cards via the UFA route (no, Tkachuk was not the answer here either). To make the playoffs again and have a shot at the conference semis, a legit 30-goal forward will have to be added via the trade route - a move that’s not beyond Cap’n Don’s recently-exposed capabilities. -chrisf

By GSU-Lee

July 4, 2007 10:08 AM | Link to this

CC, Hey, other than Kozzy, what are DW and company doing? Anything really?

By Sage of Bluesland

July 4, 2007 11:08 AM | Link to this

Bob, there IS precedent for a media-dubbed “nice guy GM” to roll-the-bones on a ‘talented’ cancer in order to save their own wretchedly incompetent skin. It happened in this very town:

Pete Babcock and Isiah Rider. Same tenants as our woeful Bluelanders.

For all the grief Billy Knight gets from the same, incompetent, media, their memories are short in that Babcock single-handedly drove the Hawks franchise into the ground for a decade—and Knight had to clear the decks first PRIOR to rebuilding…Knight (while with Memphis) even hoodwinked said ‘nice-guy’ buffoon Babcock in the Pau Gasol for Hometown Hero Bum Sharif-Abdul-Whatever…So, tell me Knight is “worse” than Babcock?

Anyway, back to our pitifully led Thrashers…I hope that Trader Don does indeed bring in the cancer Yashin—it will put to rest one more of these media-driven, and stunning, myths of what “integrity” our brilliant promise-maker has…

I encourage everyone to buckle their seatbelts for the upcoming season—it’s going to be a bumpy one…The only good thing to come out will be a much needed and long-overdue change of direction from the GM office on down.

You’ve had ample time, Promising Don…You have failed to deliver. Continued financial support of this “product” only prolongs the incompetence and our suffering.

We, the fans—the CONSUMERS, deserve much, much better than this.

By ark

July 4, 2007 12:28 PM | Link to this

to all of kovy haters. check scoreboard it’s 202 and counting. main reason hockey still alive in atlanta this man. heatley got spezza, lecavaler got st lois, hossa got kozzy. kovy playing with nobody. his defense defenetly improved. so go ahead trade him. bring a bunch hardwoker stefans than watch this exsiting game in atlanta with couple thousand more experts like you kovy haters. good luck