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Blogging from the NHL Draft

COLUMBUS — The media section here at Nationwide Arena is starting to fill and everybody is taking about the latest rumors floating around so I wanted to start a new NHL draft blog to update over the course of this weekend. This is where I’ll post updates as I hear them, although if the Thrashers do anything major I’ll post a new one. Already, deals are starting to go down. By now I’m sure you’ve already heard of San Jose’s trade with Toronto that sent goalie Vesa Toskala and Mark Bell to the Leafs for a conditional first and second-round pick in 2007 and a 2009 fourth-round pick. TSN is reporting that Pittsburgh has resigned Gary Roberts and Mark Recchi.

The news that most impacts the Thrashers is Florida’s acquisition of goalie Tomas Vokoun from Nashville for a first-round pick and two second rounders. I’m here with fingers crossed that the Thrashers join the fun, because if not, I won’t have much to write about for the Saturday paper. Unless you’re dying to read about Patrick Kane. Then you might be in luck.

I still expect something to happen on the Thrashers front as things get cooking. The consensus is that after the top eight or nine picks, this draft is an absolute crapshoot, so there might be a lot of movement when St. Louis gets cracking with its first of three first-round picks. I’ll keep you posted.

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By R. Stroz

June 22, 2007 5:35 PM | Link to this

Lets hope DW doesn’t make any deals for 35+ year old players making 2+ million per year with a history of injuries.

By Brendan

June 22, 2007 5:50 PM | Link to this

Giguere got re-signed, 4-years/$24 million. Craig, what has happened to the Nashville Predators??? In addition to losing Hartnell and Timmonen to Philly, they also lost Ryan Parent and Scottie Upshall to Philly. And now, they’ve lost Tomas Vokoun, too?? Wow. Bettman vehemently denied the team is leaving Nashville. Balsillie hasn’t even assumed control of the team as new owner, yet. But, I feel bad for Nashville. I guess they still have Chris Mason.

Craig, doesn’t Toronto already own the rights to (goaltender) Tuukka Rask? I guess they feel he’s not ready yet, so they need Toskala. The Sharks still have Evgeni Nabakov. He better stay healthy.

So Craig, Atlanta drafts at numbers 67, 78, 115, 175, and 205. That’s an uphill battle. I suspect McCarthy will be traded. Waddell faces a potentially tough arbitration if they cannot come to terms by 6/25. By trading him, at least he’d pick up a 2nd round pick. If DW can package Derek MacKenzie, RFA, that’s be a nice plus. I’m thinking, “sweetener” on a trade, maybe. Slater, RFA, may become unrestricted without a qualifying offer, but still remain a Thrasher as a UFA signing. And Exelby … should be tendered a qualifying offer by the 25th. I don’t think DW would trade him here at this draft. But if he did, he’s entitled to a 2nd round pick, for what his qualifying offer would bring, if another team wanted to bid on him. We’re so desperate for youthful defenseman, I cannot believe Don Waddell would let “X” slip away.

I’d forgive him, provided he got something really good in exchange. So, let’s wait and see. I hope Exelby stays. If Slater goes, Slater goes. Depends on what Don hears. I won’t blame him if Don gets the player he really wants in the deal.

Let’s go Thrashers!

By Brendan

June 22, 2007 5:56 PM | Link to this

That’s funny, Stroz. I can’t believe DW would go down that road again. When what’s needed is a youth movement. Is it horrible that I’m hoping he can move Holik?? I don’t Hossa will be traded. I think Don intends to re-sign him a YEAR AHEAD of schedule. But if Hossa is really going to be move to free up cap space, certainly the Thrashers would get a 1st round pick from such a move. Probably, a couple of them, albethey “conditional” for the draft years after this one. He’s pick up a 2nd rounder, THIS YEAR, too.

But again, I don’t think that will happen. Stranger things have happened. That re-newed Hossa contract has to have a “floor” of $8.0 million-per-year. That’s a hefty chunk. But I don’t Don can risk his loss. It puts the possibility of the playoffs further into question, if he does. He does own Hossa’s rights, at only $6.0 million, until July 1, 2008.

By Craig Custance

June 22, 2007 6:08 PM | Link to this

Brendan — yeah, thanks, I meant to mention Giguere.

By R. Stroz

June 22, 2007 6:13 PM | Link to this

If DW could move Holik for a draft pick, which would free up 4.25 million of cap space,and use the money to sign Zubruis and Comrie, I would jump for joy!

However, DW signed Holik, and as if he didn’t learn his lesson the first time, he signed Rucchin last year.

The only “older” player I’d like to see stay is Kozlov,if we could sign him to a two year contract. The Penguins did a good job of keeping Roberts and Recchi on a one year contract basis. Something tells me that Kozlov is looking for more than a two year deal.

Well, lets see what happens tonight.

By R. Stroz

June 22, 2007 6:17 PM | Link to this

Craig - How was vacation?

By Craig Custance

June 22, 2007 6:33 PM | Link to this

Stroz- Great, thanks. Camped out at the best state park in the country in Port Austin, Michigan. Good times.

By R. Stroz

June 22, 2007 6:34 PM | Link to this

11Alive News just reported that the Thrashers had resigned McCarthy and Larsen.

By Craig Custance

June 22, 2007 6:50 PM | Link to this

McCarthy and Larsen were signed and there’s a trade in the works, although nothing earth shattering.

By ranallo10

June 22, 2007 6:50 PM | Link to this

Interesting news…I wonder what the means for McCarthy. I’m curious if Brendan rightfully predicted a sign-and-trade, or if perhaps Waddell convinced Hartley he needs to give McCarthy a chance. I’d like to hear about the contracts, can anybody confirm this??

Word from Spector and GlobeandMail is that Chicago has agreed to swap picks with Phoenix (1 and 3) to pick Turris.

By B. Thenet

June 22, 2007 6:53 PM | Link to this

Looks like the Yotes are making a move for the #1 spot. Chicago would move down to #3 and get a player in return.

It will be interesting to see what Vokun does in Florida….it is not hard to be a goaltender behind that Nashville team.

By ranallo10

June 22, 2007 6:53 PM | Link to this

Atlanta trades 3rd rounder this year for Chris Thornburn from Pittsburgh, not sure which pick yet. — ESPN

By Thrasher Ryan

June 22, 2007 6:59 PM | Link to this

Come on Don, work some magic.

By sisu

June 22, 2007 7:01 PM | Link to this

Here is hoping for a true #1 center, what ever it takes. If not then move up and package a player and some later picks for a top 10

By ranallo10

June 22, 2007 7:02 PM | Link to this

Chris Thorburn, my apology — 6-3, 218, 24 years old (6/3/83), 1 year experience, 39GP 5pts 69PIM, 7:54ATOI.

By B. Thenet

June 22, 2007 7:06 PM | Link to this

So we give up a 3rd rounder for a guy the Penguins picked up on waivers in October, and he couldn’t even crack the Pens roster.

I doubt this draft is that bad.

By Daniel

June 22, 2007 7:19 PM | Link to this

From Hockey’s Future website: Talent Analysis: Chris Thorburn would appear to be a strong candidate for the position of checking center, although he has some skills that might set him apart from your average defensive specialist.

Thorburn is a smooth-skating center with good playmaking skills who is not afraid to go to the net. Thorburn has enough speed to be an effective forechecker, and the size and toughness to go into the corners. He has a good shot, and is fairly adept at deflecting shots, but so far these skills haven’t translated into goals.

Thorburn is solid defensively, and is effective on face-offs. He has seen time on North Bay’s power play and penalty killing units, which indicates some versatility to his game. Thorburn has even seen some time on defense, although his main position is clearly center.

Future: Thorburn had a breakthrough year offensively with Rochester in 2005-06. He’s among a handful of prospects who can make a splash in camp and earn a fourth line spot, but there’s an equal chance that he’ll a victim of the numbers game.

By B. Thenet

June 22, 2007 7:35 PM | Link to this

Nice moment in Columbus for The Great One

By Craig Custance

June 22, 2007 7:42 PM | Link to this

Chris Thorburn acquired from Pittsburgh for Thrashers second third-round pick, the 78th overall selection.

By sisu

June 22, 2007 7:48 PM | Link to this

So any other trades or do you think the Thrashers will try to get a second rounder?

By Craig Custance

June 22, 2007 7:53 PM | Link to this

McCarthy is 1 year deal (725K); Larsen is 2-years @ 530K per year.

By R. Stroz

June 22, 2007 8:00 PM | Link to this

Craig - Thanks for the updates.

Lets hope we keep McCarthy and BH puts him on the ice where he belongs.

By Bob

June 22, 2007 8:03 PM | Link to this

Hmm, some Alzheimer’s patient was calling for Dealin Don to get Conroy a few weeks before this past year’s deadline, but I just can’t remember whom…

Conroy would fit well here, get er Don, Dealin Don.

By R. Stroz

June 22, 2007 8:21 PM | Link to this

Bob - Admittedly,I don’t know Conroy well; however, I’ve grown real uneasy about signing 35+ year old players after Holik and Rucchin.

By ranallo10

June 22, 2007 8:27 PM | Link to this

Just what the Thrashers need, a 36 year old center at $2M a season. Good call Bob. Maybe the Thrashers should go after Jason Allison, convince Mellanby to play another season, and they could all be combined with Conroy to make the AARP line. Every goal they score the fans would get a 10% discount on creamed corn at the local CVS.

Apparently that same Alzheimer’s patient forgets that he/she continually complains about the average age of the players on the team.

Gotta love contradictions…

By Brian

June 22, 2007 8:51 PM | Link to this

Craig - just got in to see a clip of the draft and I only have one question. Why is Brady Quinn still in the green room?

Oh yeah, one other thing - CONROY?!?!?!?!!!!!! If Rucchin does go on IR will he allow Conroy to use his number? Conroy does realize if he takes Mellanby’s number the jersey doesn’t come with the “C” on it, right?

By LAC

June 22, 2007 9:22 PM | Link to this

Ranallo10 is 100% CORRECT… NO MORE 35+ players, look at us being STUCK with Holik.

Great two players who mean little, why not Salva or X ? SIGNED ???

I give up waddell has BOMBED yet again !!!! When will his AWFUL reign as GM FINALLY END !!!!!!!

By Sage of Bluesland

June 22, 2007 9:58 PM | Link to this

The NY Rangers and Pittsburgh Penguins just got immensely stronger by taking gifted players who had fallen out of favor. Two extremely gifted players who now have major-league chips on their shoulders.

The Obfuscating “Dealer” (Brilliant Donny) signs McCarthy and Larsen.

(insert soundtrack of crickets chirping)

The “Sun” is definitely setting in the figurative joke otherwise known as “Blueland” that Brilliant Donny created…But, even in this darkest hour, I see a glimmer of real hope.

Our Brilliant Donny is unceremoniously fired after we take a step back this year. Maybe ‘The Media-Tool’ (our esteemed beat-writer who won’t ask tough questions demanded by this fan) will follow him to wherever he goes, as well?

Brilliant Donny…Brilliant Wheeler-Dealer…The Great Obfuscator…I don’t give a Rat’s Ranallo what anyone says—our GM doesn’t know Jack GaVaHokie…

By Craig Custance

June 22, 2007 10:18 PM | Link to this

Thrashers are prepared to make Kozlov multi-year offer as soon as this weekend. Whether or not he accepts is another story. They’ll also make qualifying offers to all their remaining (NHL level) RFAs - Exelby, Slater and now Thorburn.

By Geneen

June 22, 2007 10:57 PM | Link to this

Thank you for the info about Kozlov. He’s my favorite player in all of the NHL — I really hope he stays.

RE: Tuukka Rask

Wasn’t he part of the Andrew Raycroft deal? I think he’s the property of the Bruins now.

By Geneen

June 22, 2007 11:07 PM | Link to this

BTW, CC: What do you think the likelihood actually is of Kozzy staying a Thrasher? Have you heard any gossip, er, scoop on that? I’ve heard all this buzz about him going back to Detroit — have you heard that? Also crazy Eklund has him listed as a possible to be signed by Dallas (!). Tell us all that you know CC. (Please?) :-)

By Brian

June 22, 2007 11:09 PM | Link to this

HA! Less than an hour after LAC goes into his normal banter of DW bombing because Kozzy & X aren’t signed, Craig announces offers are being made to both players. Don’t worry DW haters, Sage is still here to spread the vile!

Heh heh heh… I don’t know what pick they are on in the draft but they just selected Alf…

By Wreckin' & Thrashin'

June 22, 2007 11:14 PM | Link to this

Hey Craig, who’s the most likely RFA center the Thrasher’s go after. And on that note, who are you expecting to be our #1 center going into the season. Thanks

By LAC

June 22, 2007 11:21 PM | Link to this

Come on Brian… Just think things should be shaping up quicker than they are.

Just look at Pittsburgh… signing Roberts/Recchi… FL getting Volcoun, Interesting, what will we DO ?????

Hope for some BIG additions, but fear more 35+ guys coming in…

By Craig Custance

June 22, 2007 11:32 PM | Link to this

Wreckin: I don’t see the Thrashers making a huge splash in the RFA market. I’d really be surprised if they made an offer to an RFA.

As for their No. 1 center, I think they’ll look hard at UFAs like Detroit’s Robert Lang or the recently bought out Alexei Yashin. If Kozlov doesn’t sign, their biggest UFA might not be a center, but someone to replace Kozlov on Hossa’s line. Don’t forget about Belanger either, but he might want to see what’s out there after July 1st before resigning.

By ranallo10

June 23, 2007 12:01 AM | Link to this

Thanks for the continued updates Craig.

By Davin

June 23, 2007 12:07 AM | Link to this

Guys it’s Justin Pogge that the Leafs have right to not Tuukka Rask…He’s now the Bruins in exchange for Raycroft. Did Nick Spaling get drafted?He’s from my hometown and im curious!

By David

June 23, 2007 12:13 AM | Link to this

I was curious what the possibility of atlanta landing peter forsberg are. I know that he has a good working relationship with Hartley and has said before that he would love to play for a coach he was familiar with again. How much would you have to pay to get him, and would he be worth it? I know everybody talks about wanting a younger team, but it’s hard for me to ignore putting a forsberg on a line with kovy….he’s one of the best passers ever, even as he gets older. To me, he would be one of the few players I would be willing to “break the bank” on. Curious to know people’s opinions.

By Wreckin' & Thrashin'

June 23, 2007 12:35 AM | Link to this

Sorry Craig, I had meant UFA, not RFA, but you answered my question anyway.

Also, I wanted your thoughts on this being the second year in a row, and altogether 3 out of the last 8, the top pick has been an American. This has to be very healthy for the game, and I am glad to see USA hockey is doing a great job to put these guys up there.

By Brendan

June 23, 2007 1:55 AM | Link to this

Geneen and Davin, my mistake on Tuukka Rask. I had forgotten he was moved in the Raycroft deal with Boston. I heard Nashville’s owner decided not to sell the Predators to Balsillie. And that the team is “guaranteed” to remain in Nashville next year. I have to admit, I was “happy” to hear the news. Balsillie is going to keep pressing on … until he lands a team.

Oh crud. Belkin better not even “think” about it, if he gets control of this team. Shoot, if it’s between Balsillie, “I’m moving a team to Canada” or Arthur “I’m a merchandising GENIUS” Blank, I gotta side with Blank. Who, as I’ve said, I want to keep far, far away from my hockey team. Hopefully the Atlanta Spirit prevail. At least they spend money and “green light” DW’s proposals.

Can’t believe Esposito falls into the Penguins lap. Man, don’t they have “enough” 1st round picks in their lineup? NY Rangers found a player with their mid-round selection. If that Russian turns out to be a major force, all those other GM’s will be second-guessed. Such is the nature of a draft, anyway.

So, Kane goes 1st overall. The San Jose Sharks wheel and deal for two 1st rounders. The St. Louis Blues appeared to have done quite well. Folks, it was just the 2005-06 season when they finished LAST in the league. Now they pick up all these picks, in addition to Johnson, last year’s 1st overall pick. And they were only one (1) point below .500 last season. St. Louis might become the Western Conference’s Pittsburgh Penguins. If so, “see how fast it all turns around?” The Blues should be given credit for their “renting.”

I thought it was funny how Doug MacLean rambled on, almost as if he were still the GM of the Blue Jackets. Then says, “I’m over being fired.” Of course, the TSN guys “egged him on” every chance they got. Pierre McGuire crying over teams not selecting the top Russian prospect was pretty entertaining. I wish I could have seen Don Cherry’s reaction to that!! (He hates Russians!, and was probably grinning like a hyena.)

So, the Thrashers re-sign McCarthy responsibly ($725K), that’s a pay cut for him. And they re-signed Larsen at $530K, for two more years. Larsen, believe it or not, one was of the better Thrasher performers in the 2007 playoffs. He wound up tied for 2nd in scoring.

Craig, any word on RFA Derek MacKenzie? Are the Thrashers cutting him lose to become unrestricted? Or, are they trying to package him in a deal, as “sweetener?”

By BigAl

June 23, 2007 8:21 AM | Link to this

Geneen, If Kozzie doesn’t re-sign with the team (or I should say “if the Thrashers don’t make him a good offer”) Detroit is an obvious choice and Dallas is probably not far behind. The President of Dallas was very instrumental in the “defection” process for several of the Wings in the 90’s and I’m sure he would love to see Kozzie in a Green/Gold jersey!

By Boner

June 23, 2007 8:41 AM | Link to this

Hasn’t dodo Wadell learned his lesson with Rucchin and Holik? He couldn’t possibly be thinking about signing Lang.

By Bri

June 23, 2007 9:41 AM | Link to this

What’s up with the Holik haters? Do any of you remember he was one of the very few Thrashers who showed up for EVERY playoff game? Plus he’s smart and always good for post-game quotes. We need Slava and some brainy leadership, not just a bunch of youngsters who’ll fall all over the ice like puppies. I’d love for Belanger to stay, too. I trust DW to do what he needs to do to strengthen our team.

By Craig Custance

June 23, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this

BigAl - Good point, and his brother is Kozlov’s agent.

By Sage of Bluesland

June 23, 2007 10:22 AM | Link to this

I caught a bit of the draft and was impressed with San Jose’s GM (Wilson)—he looked extremely sharp and professional. He inspired confidence and commanded respect in his very demeanor and stature.

Compare and contrast that to the disheveled image our bumbling Donny portrays…Shifty-eyes…blustering…obfuscating…silly promise-making and prognostication…blusters of his trading ability and “prowess”…Only needs a horn and unicycle to fully complete his wardrobe…

Please. There’s a very, very good reason the sun is setting in “Blueland”. Our Brilliant Donny reminds me of that gap-toothed clown who Columbus finally fired and cluttered the telecast with his equally-blusterous noise. Make no mistake about why we’re where we’re at and what our true function in the league is.

By Sage of Bluesland

June 23, 2007 10:30 AM | Link to this

Who else was completely impressed with the very image the San Jose GM (Wilson) portrayed while on stage/camera last night? His demeanor inspired confidence and demanded respect.

Compare and contrast that with how our bumbling Donny looks…Disheveled appearance…Shifty-eyes…Obfuscates…Makes silly promises and prognostications…Blusters about his trading “prowess”…The only items missing which would complete his wardrobe is a unicycle and a horn.

He reminds me of the clown that Columbus finally fired. His blustering was equally unbearable last night.

As long as you all realize why the sun is currently setting in “Blueland”…We are what we are.

By Pel

June 23, 2007 10:44 AM | Link to this

Please. Sage, do us all a favor and take a pill. If the “sun is setting on Blueland” and if you think our ship is really being steered by a disheveled shifty-eyed clown then go be a Preds fan. Clearly you are severly disturbed by the way DW is handling things.

So bail. Goodbye.

By Craig Custance

June 23, 2007 11:11 AM | Link to this

Thrashers select Spencer Machacek, RW, Vancouver (WHL)

By UpperDeck4Life

June 23, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this

Machacek had 45 pts and a +26 in 63 regular season games played and 20 pts and +12 in 22 playoff games.

By Brian

June 23, 2007 11:56 AM | Link to this

Sage is right, the sun is setting on Blueland. I heard that home teams are switching back to white jerseys next season… As for his schoolgirl crush on Wilson, uh, I’ll leave that one alone.

Bri - I actually wouldn’t be surprised if Holik is wearing the “C” next season.

David - it is almost unanimous from what I read that everyone here does not want the oft-injured Forseberg.

Wreckin - Nice point. Actually, the Top 2 picks this year were American which has never happened. Last year it was 2 of the top 3. I heard that the only other time 2 of the top 3 were American was ‘83. Being a Buffalo guy I’m going to say that was LaFontaine & Barraso, but Brendan will not disspoint me here and will have this info for us.

By Craig Custance

June 23, 2007 12:12 PM | Link to this

Thrashers select Niklas Lucenius, C, Finland

By GaVaHokie

June 23, 2007 12:33 PM | Link to this

Eklund is now reporting that Atlanta is interested in Yashin… Craig, did you put that bug in his ear?

By Brendan

June 23, 2007 12:40 PM | Link to this

Brian, I think that’s right. In 1983, Brian Lawton, Mt. St. Charles High School was taken 1st overall by Minnesota, and Pat LaFontain went 3rd overall. Tom Barrasso was selected 5th overall in 1983. Lawton was the first U.S. High School player Drafted 1st overall. The 1st U.S. high school player taken in the 1st round was Center Bob Caprenter of St. John’s Prep school. He was takend 3rd overall by Washington in 1981. The 1st high school player ever drafted was Center Jay North. of Bloomington-Jefferson H.S., taken 62nd overall, by the Buffalo Sabres in 1980.

Remember 1980 Olympic Gold medal-winning Defenseman Mike Ramsey? In 1979, he was the first U.S. college 1st round selection. The 1st U.S. College Players drafted 1st overall was Joe Murphy, from Michigan State, in 1986, by Detroit.

This year’s 10 1st round picks ties the mark set in 2006. The first U.S. college player ever selected was Al Karlander, from Michigan Tech, selected 17th overall by the Detroit Red Wings.

Other notes on U.S. influence at the NHL Entry draft, in case anyone’s the least bit curious. The High school that has produced the most NHL draft picks, coming into this year’s draft, is Cushing Academy in Massachussetts, with 21 selectees. They had three in 1990 and three in 1988. Actually, hold the phone, it’s a tie. Also with 21, is Northwood Preparatory in NY State. They had four (4) players drafted in 1987, but 21 total.

St. Sebastian’s HS has drafted 13 players and I think they added another with Hickey in this year’s 1st round draft. Mount St. Charles, listed above with Brian Lawton, has sent 12 players into the NHL draft.

What about College? As you might expect, University of Minnesota Golden Gopehers lead the pack with 67, coming into this year’s draft. One behind, at 66, is Michigan. Craig cheers. Boston U. is next, at 51. Michigan State Craig cheers even louder has 48, and Michigan Tech has 46. Denver, , Wisconsin, 41, North Dakota, 39, Boston College, 37, and Providence, 36, round out the Top 10 colleges producing NHL Draft picks. My alma mater has only put 20 into the NHL draft, Miami of Ohio. (CCHA RULES!!)

By Brendan

June 23, 2007 12:50 PM | Link to this

GaVaHokie, let’s not pin that on Craig. Unless Yashin took the league minimum, I suspect Waddell would pass on him. He’s poison for every team that’s ever had him, including his Olympic and National teams in International competition.

If Waddell were to actually sign Yashin, I would hope he consulted Kovalchuk and Kozlov first, for their impressions of potentially playing with him. And it better be a one-year deal, at that. But I think Eklund’s rumor is unfounded. First things first, time to tender Exelby with a qualifying offer. Or to sign him. Same with Slater, about the re-signing. I’d let it slide if Waddell didn’t tender Slater with a qualifying offer.

By Brendan

June 23, 2007 1:19 PM | Link to this

The Thrashers are about to make another pick.

By Brendan

June 23, 2007 1:28 PM | Link to this

It’s John Albert, Center, from Cleveland, OH. 5’9” and 180-pounds. He shoots lefty. Yeah, Ohio!!

By UpperDeck4Life

June 23, 2007 1:40 PM | Link to this

Craig do you have any info on any of these 3 guys? I found Machaek’s stats, but was curious if you have heard anything about these 3?

By The Falconer

June 23, 2007 1:43 PM | Link to this

I could see ATL signing either Lang or Yashin to a 1 or 2 year deal to fill the void. I have a hard time seeing Little making this team right out of camp in the fall. If our top two centers were Yashin/Lang and Belanger next year that would be an improvement over what we started off with last year.

By Craig Custance

June 23, 2007 1:50 PM | Link to this

Thrashers select John Albert, C, USDP

By Craig Custance

June 23, 2007 2:00 PM | Link to this

Thrashers select Paul Postma, D, WHL — sorry I’m a little behind, been conducting interviews. I’ll have more on these guys later.

By GaVaHokie

June 23, 2007 2:08 PM | Link to this

Falconer… and what better way to pad Yashin and Lang’s stats then to play a year or two with Hossa and Kovy? They could come in here and rack up 60+ points like Kozlov and Savard did and command a higher dollar on the free market.

By The Falconer

June 23, 2007 2:15 PM | Link to this

Hokie: Didn’t really work that way for the 4 centers we started out with last year. Only Metro was really effective.

Both of those guys are lazy perimeter players. But they both can make a NHL pass. We have two shooters on our roster and we need somebody who can make that pass on the power play and at even strength. I’d put up with their lazy ways for a short period of time, especially if they are cheap.

By kbatch26

June 23, 2007 2:31 PM | Link to this

Anyone think DW might resign Metro?

By Craig Custance

June 23, 2007 2:51 PM | Link to this

In a minor deal, the Thrashers picked up Jesse Schultz from Vancouver for minor league defenseman Jimmy Sharrow.

By The Falconer

June 23, 2007 2:56 PM | Link to this

Thrashers trade prospect Jimmy Sharrow for AHLer Jesse Schultz. Sharrow was never going to make it anyway so I’m curious ot see Schultz.

By ranallo10

June 23, 2007 3:08 PM | Link to this

Okay, I didn’t keep up with the rounds today, but did Nashville pass on drafting in the 6th round, and San Jose in the 7th?

By R. Stroz

June 23, 2007 3:42 PM | Link to this

I wonder if the trades DW is making are merely restocking the Chicago Wolves for players that are being moved up to Atlanta.

By Legion of thrash

June 23, 2007 4:07 PM | Link to this

So Wadell says McCarthy didn’t play because of Zhitnik coming in. Even when Sutton and Havelid were playing like garbage, McCarthy continued to ride the pine. Now Wadell signs McCarthy, who seemed shocked himself. He bad mouths Kozlov for his playoff performance and now says he is going to offer a multi year contract. I don’t understand this guy. Last year he badmouthed Vigier and ends up resigning him.

I really don’t see Lang filling a void at center, I only see him adding to the void.

By Craig Custance

June 23, 2007 4:12 PM | Link to this

Got confirmation that the Thrashers won’t be making offers to Andy Sutton and Greg de Vries before July 1st (not a huge surprise there). Waddell also completely denied a Marian Hossa trade rumor that was circulating here calling it “As bad a rumor that I’ve ever heard.” He said he hasn’t once considered trading Hossa.

By GaVaHokie

June 23, 2007 4:44 PM | Link to this

R. Stroz… I was thinking the same thing. There was no value at his picks, so he had to get proven talent that could step in and contribute in Chicago. The defense is pretty deep in the minor system, and Sharrow wasn’t exactly knocking on the door. He’s an offensive defenseman, and with Zhitnik, Enstrom, McCarthy and Delmore on the immediate depth chart (at that role position), there was no real need for him.

I’m not really gonna look hard at the scouting reports on these guys… there’s no real need. These are not the important moves… those are coming this week.

By Geneen

June 23, 2007 5:26 PM | Link to this

Thanks BigAl and CC: I am reading between the lines on Kozlov — and I don’t like the story! Grrr…

Thanks for all the updates CC.

By ranallo10

June 23, 2007 5:28 PM | Link to this

Delmore signed with the Hamburg Freezer of the DEL earlier this month (13th).

I like that Waddell told us he’d try to sign Kozlov to a muli-year contract…something he doesn’t do often is let out what he’s planning, so it’s nice to hear. Hopefully it’s something that will convince Kozlov to stay.

By LAC

June 23, 2007 5:41 PM | Link to this

Sage, CORRECT, this GM we are STUCK with is EXACTLY and I MEAN EXACTLY like you said.

Wilson looked stoic, proud and very, very confident, but DUMB waddell looks shady as a tree in the desert.

Look at the DUMB moves he has made, Holik, Rucchin…YUCK… and on and on.

We need a GM who is a mover & shaker, not some pond scumb everyone laughs at.

Did catch a quick look at Bob Hartley, He looked professional at least.

Just another example of the Terrible ownership here in town, Gee Whiz… Kansas City Here We Come…

By ranallo10

June 23, 2007 5:52 PM | Link to this

Maybe you two should move to Kansas City to get a head start…damnit, you’ll still have access to this blog.

Guess you’re stuck another season with our obfuscating GM (had to throw that word in, since it’s Sage’s word of the month). Well not just that word, but prognosticate, exonerate, and any other -ate words — it makes a point sound valid and more convincing when you use big words (note the sarcasm).

By R. Stroz

June 23, 2007 6:09 PM | Link to this

Hyperbole seems like an accurate description of some of the posts.

By R. Stroz

June 23, 2007 6:17 PM | Link to this

GaVaHokie - Glad to see you back on the blog. Some of us were concerned for you and your family after the incident at VT. Glad you’re back. I hope you, your family, and friends were not directly effected.

By icemansucks

June 23, 2007 7:32 PM | Link to this

Hyperbole? I think the schoolgirl crush quote from above was more accurate.

LAC: So, did you like, watch the draft this weekend?

Sage of blueland: Uh, YEAH! I mean like, what else would I be like, doing?

LAC: Oh, because like, that GM from San Jose, he was like, SO DREAMY!!!

Sage of blueland: oh my GOD! I was just like, totally thinking that!

LAC: It’s almost like, he wears a, what do you call it, oh yeah, a power tie.

Sage of blueland: yeah, my Dad wears those. Hey, slip me a note in study hall and tell me more of like, what you think of him.

By Brendan

June 23, 2007 8:33 PM | Link to this

Craig, when Waddell said he would have Hossa’s contract re-worked before the season started, I put the Hossa trade out of my mind. I don’t know that we ever we ever “rumored” that a Hossa trade was in the works … so much as we “speculated” about what a Hossa trade might bring. When ANY team faces a tight cap squeeze, fans took to the highest paid players as the means to remedying the situation, especially if there’s a “windfall of depth talent” in the return for a trade.

C’mon now. Be fair. Many of us “thought” about what a Hossa trade might bring. But I don’t know how many of us thought a Hossa trade was “imminent” or “named a trade partner.” We all speculated about the “importance of Hossa’s contract” being resolved before July 1, 2008. I’m pretty sure there was a general consensus here among the bloggers that Hossa’s contract had to be addressed before he hit the open market. And that’s the truth.

A trade rumor is more something along the lines of, “Hey, I heard Hossa wants out, and he’s thinking about the Rangers.” Thaaaaat’s a rumor. Or, “I hear Hossa wants out of Atlanta, and he doesn’t care where to.” That’d be a rumor, too. But speculation about what Hossa’s loss to the team would be … is not a rumor. Speculation about what Hossa would fetch out on the open market, in terms of salary … is not a rumor. Speculation about what kind of windfall of talent could come from a Hossa trade … is not a rumor. It’s just idle speculation. Just like talk of Yashin, O’Neill, Conroy, Preissing, Comrie … Kozlov, Slater, Exelby, Hnidy … they aren’t “rumors.” They’re “just speculation.” I can see where Waddell might have been frosted a bit if he thought people here at the blog were saying, “Waddell’s in trade negotiations with (supply team name here) and the trade is imminent.”

I don’t recall seeing that. I don’t remember a single poster saying “Waddell’s got a trade in the works, it’ll be announced in the morning.” Chuckling. What they were saying was … “here’s what Hossa could potentially fetch, ifffff Waddell were thinking of trading him. And the bloggers picked a few Western Conference teams and listed their young talents and prospect and various draft pick consideration. But again, that’s “speculating” about hypotheticals. I haven’t seen a single hockey website even mention Marian Hossa’s name all Summer.

The “rumors” that were posted here about Hossa … stemmed from John Kincade’s speculation over the public airwaves on 680TheFan that Hossa was having some offseason surgery on his left shoulder. Now, that’s a rumor!! Kincade also stated, adamantly, that Steve Rucchin’s affiliation with the Thrashers was over. And he definitely would not be back. Again, that’s an example of a rumor. Kincade “outed” Bob Hartley’s contract as a “rumored” one-year deal. That’s a “rumor.” Although many people believe that one to be true. What’s more, they have every RIGHT to be believe it.

Of course the easiest way to get rid of these “rumors” is for the GM to clarify what has, and has not, happened. But again, he’s under no obligation whatsoever to comment on his undertakings. As Ranallo said, it’s a rare thing for Waddell to tip his hand by saying he’s in negotiations for a multi-year deal for Kozlov. I applaud Waddell just for trying to get that done. He could have easily just given up on Kozzie, thinking the cap hit was too sizeable to consider.

I say, “Good luck on the Kozlov contract.” We all hope he can get it done, responsibly. But if he can’t, how many of us are really going to blame him? If some other team offers $4 million or more, for 4 years, or even three. Are you, my fellow bloggers, going to put a hatchet into Waddell and lay blame on him for not matching the offer? I won’t. And I like Kozlov. And I want him to return, if possible. But there are budgetary constraints and matters of strategy at play here. I think “reasonable people” understand that. The only way I’ll blame Waddell for losing Kozlov … is if I hear he took $3 million a year to go elsewhere. At $3 million-a-year, Waddell should have matched that, and countered with $3.1, or thereabouts, to lock him up. And if he had to throw in an “option” for an additional year to make the deal, so be it. I’d let it go, filed under, “seemed like a good idea at the time.” If Don actually got the chance to lock up Kozlov for 3-years, at $3.1 million, take it. Take it! I know. I know. He’s 34-35 already. And will become very susceptible to injury. And this is not a “youth movement” contract. But Slava is different. He’s a special case. If a GM had to renew a guy in mid-30’s, Slava’s a good bet. Sorry for the long post.

By LAC

June 23, 2007 8:57 PM | Link to this

Good blog Brenden, Excellent as ALWAYS from a Knowledgeable Hockey fan.

icemansucks… Two Words… GROW UP !

The 4 picks look fairly good, let’s hope they develop into good NHL players in a few years.

I will say one thing… I was VERY glad to see no deals of other draft picks to move around, for once a decent waddell move…

Calgary ended up with our pick that went to St.L…funny how they get moved around.

Sage, keep up the good posts…

You Are Right !!!!

By ranallo10

June 24, 2007 1:19 AM | Link to this

Brendan, I appreciate your points, but I think you missed one part on your imminent reaction if Waddell cannot sign Kozlov for X amount of money.

I understand what you’re saying is that you will have a hard time forgiving Waddell if Kozlov is signed for what you feel is a reasonable amount that the Thrashers should be able to match. Obviously the key word there is you (made even more obvious by my bold font type). Let’s say, for speculation’s sake, that Kozlov signs in Detroit for $10M over three years ($3.3M per). Your statement above (synopsized, I appreciate that fact) is that you’d expect the Thrashers to counter that offer, or at least be competitively equal. Correct me if I’m wrong please in my interpretation of your point.

Where I think you’re missing is in the fact that Kozlov might want to play somewhere MORE than Atlanta. Let’s say he’s missed Detroit since he left, and he really wants to retire as a Red Wing…don’t you think he’d conceivably take a lower salary to do so? If Waddell says $3.5 over three years with an option, and Detroit says $3.3 over three years without an option, do you think maybe Kozlov (assuming for arguments sake he prefers Detroit) would accept Waddell’s offer?? It’s even possible he’ll take substantially less to play for Detroit (or a different team), AND keep them with salary cap room, before he decides to sign with Atlanta again.

My point is that it’s not cut and dry when it comes to re-signing a UFA (and I know you understand this, I’m just airing it out). As Regier said in regards to Briere and Drury, (paraphrase) “the UFA player has a lot of control over the situation”. So please don’t forget that it’s possible Kozlov wants to play somewhere else MORE than he wants to play here.

If all things were equal, and it came down to dollars, I don’t think Atlanta has a chance. Here’s to hoping that Kozlov is already leaning towards Atlanta, and Waddell’s offer matches both the team’s and player’s interest.

I’ll hold onto that sliver, I like Kozlov enough (icemansucks, I mean that in that incredibly heterosexual way — like football, beer, and porno).

By GaVaHokie

June 24, 2007 12:23 PM | Link to this

Brendan… the rumors didn’t stem from this blog, I assure you. There were rumors going around league sources that Hossa was going to be traded to Los Angeles… that’s probably what Craig was talking about.

Looks like Yashin to Atlanta is up to an (E3) on Eklund’s blog… he had the Toskala trade at (E4) when it happened.

I promise that Yashin will not be the same story as Rucchin… I see a Teemu Selanne type resurrection in him.

By Sage of Bluesland

June 24, 2007 12:29 PM | Link to this

In reading the AJC this morning, I had a strong sense of deja-vu: Our bumbling Donny blustered that the players we drafted were all rated MUCH, MUCH higher on their draft board…

We’ve heard this foolishness before when we kept trading down in the first round a couple of years ago and, miracle-of-miracles(!), we got the player we wanted “all along”.

Uh-huh. The Sheep swoon. The Tool has to write something. Our bumbling Donny has to talk about something positive, I guess—given how outclassed we were down the stretch and in the most important games in franchise history.

Lap it up, poor Sheep.

By Lgion of thrash

June 24, 2007 12:57 PM | Link to this

The problem with Yashin is he is terrible defensively and is known to be a bad locker room guy. The same things people said about Savard.

By R. Stroz

June 24, 2007 1:06 PM | Link to this

Do we really want a lazy, malcontent one way playing Russian at more than 2 million per year?

Seems like the question answers the question.

By Tom

June 24, 2007 1:41 PM | Link to this

God I hope that Yashin does not come here. We need toughness and grit, not another prima donna Russian.

That is not the example Kolvy needs to have in the locker room.

Hope everyone elses summer is going well.

By BOB

June 24, 2007 1:55 PM | Link to this

I know I’m being a nit-picky pain in the arse, but…

It’s “K-O-V-Y” not “K-O-L-V-Y”. The guy’s name is not “Kolvalchuk” its “Kovalchuk”.

By GaVaHokie

June 24, 2007 3:51 PM | Link to this

R. Stroz… thanks for the concern. I graduated from Va Tech a long time ago! I didn’t know any of the victims personally, but I had a few “six degrees of separation” from one of the girls. My old band director’s daughter actually had classes with the killer. She was supposed to be in class with him that morning, but she skipped class. However, he didn’t shoot up his own classes… he shot up everyone elses.

It was a terrible tragedy… could happen anywhere.

By ranallo10

June 24, 2007 8:59 PM | Link to this

Not trying to be a nit-picky person, but “Kolvy” is just as legitimate a nickname as “Kovy”. Both are incorrect, because the guy’s name IS “Kovalchuk” and not “Kovylchuk”.

I’m not one for nicknames period, but to pick on someone for adding a consonant to a nickname is a little too nit-picky. Course, at least you admitted before hand.

Hokie — I bet that was the happiest a father could ever be when finding out their child skipped a class.

My six degrees was a friend’s friend who got shot in the leg. He was fine, but obviously has some emotional scars from that one.

By David

June 24, 2007 9:23 PM | Link to this

Was just reading about Yashin rumors saying he’s more likely to play in Euro for the right money then play for teams in the NHL who won’t pay him what he wants.

1) Not the attitude I’d want anyways.

2) Have fun in Euro.

By Brendan

June 24, 2007 9:23 PM | Link to this

Renallo, I completely agree with your point and stand corrected. If Kozlov wants to play elsewhere, and has made up his mind, there’s no amount of money Waddell could throw at him. He’s gonna go, if he wants to go. This is the power of unrestricted free agency. I do wonder, if in 2011 when the current CBA expires, if the league will want to raise the age of unrestricted free agency.

By Brendan

June 24, 2007 10:10 PM | Link to this

I hope this doesn’t sound too crazy, but iffff Don Waddell were really considering Yashin, I still think he should talk to Kovalchuk and Kozlov about it.

What? A GM, talking a roster move over with his players? Where, in bizarro world, where hamburgers eat people? Well, hold on. Waddell has done it before, and I give credit for it. He ran a few things past Ray Ferraro, when he was Captain. He may have gotten Havelid’s input on Vishnevski before he made that move. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with a GM consulting with his trusted and influential players about a potential acquisition. It’s not like he’s seeking their approval or anything. Or discussing financial aspects of negotiations. He would be just seeking their input. Fine by me.

I wouldn’t blame Waddell a bit if he talked to Kovalchuk and Kozlov about Yashin. Just for … “perspective.” If either one of them said, “Don’t do it, we don’t want ‘im,” … I think it would resonate with Waddell. Likewise, if they said, “Yeah, do it! Sign ‘im, sign ‘im, sign ‘im, if you think you can.” Waddell’s also got Russian player contacts from his days as Assistant GM in Detroit, back in ‘98. And scouts! The Red Wings love to scout Russia. So, they’d know all about him. More personal, “character/work ethic” type stuff.

By Tony C.

June 24, 2007 10:19 PM | Link to this

Dude.

Sign Slava-Matic.

GO BLUE !!!

By Bob

June 25, 2007 9:04 AM | Link to this

Waddell is not going to sign Kozlov, he cannot afford him. He’s offering him him the contract, and announcing to everyone that’s he’s offering him a contract, so he can give Craig a quote next Sunday, after Kozlov is one of the first UFA’s signed, that’ll go something like “we offered him what made sense for our club, but Kozlov decided to go elsewhere”.

Lang and Yashin, forget about them. I truly hope we don’t sign either, both loafers. Conroy still has gas in the tank, he is not a Rucchin. And Holik is a very good 3rd line center, overpaid? yes. But he’s still a heck of a checking center and I’m glad we have him.

By Legion of thrash

June 25, 2007 9:10 AM | Link to this

I would like to see Sykora come here to play the right wing with Kovy.

By Legion of thrash

June 25, 2007 9:26 AM | Link to this

Craig, any word on Kari working out like he did last summer to keep his groin and core strength up for the season?

By GaVaHokie

June 25, 2007 10:16 AM | Link to this

Brendan… Waddell consulted with Kozlov before making the Zhitnik deal. They’re good friends, and Kozlov attested to his strong work ethic and conditioning.

Hossa is another player to consult on Yashin (Ottawa).

Legion… I like Sykora also, if he can play more consistent. He seems like Mark Parrish to me… strong out the gate and trails off as the season goes on. He had only 4 goals the last three months of the season.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/players/1333/gamelog;ylt=AlGCqkSfu1gKbXc4CX4tzdivLYF

By ranallo10

June 25, 2007 10:46 AM | Link to this

You’re absolutely right Bob, Waddell is making an offer to Kozlov merely so that Kozlov can decline it and Waddell can save face by stating that he offered a contract. Waddell has a long tenured success of doing such, and is clearly only in the GM role to further improve his public image by placating his “Waddellites” with gesture contracts that have no substance. It’s a proven thing, your opinion alone is the proof. Plus, as Sage would say, Custance’s only job is to further propagate the positive Waddell image by writing positive articales and NEVER delving into the negative. Apparently Custance is the dog, we’re the sheep, and Waddell is the farmer.

(if you can’t notice the sarcasm in these statements, you’ve probably already forgotten what was written — darn Alzheimer’s)

Please, lay another nugget-o-wisdom that is a typical Bob post. Also, please make it as contradicting as possible, similar to the “this team is too old and needs to get younger” followed by “let’s sign a 37 year old center” you like to drop every so often.

As for Sykora, I think I agree with Hokie. If his consistency were to be more evident, and if he would come at a sub $3M amount, he could be helpful to Kovalchuk’s line.

Word on the street is that Calder will not be re-signed, I’m curious what he’s looking for in a contract. Also, word on the street is that Murray is shopping Saprykin. I mention both names because of a Waddell quote in Custance’s draft interview. Waddell mentioned that he’d be looking specifically at players acquired at the trade deadline, as they’re usually the players that become available this time of year.

So, the names that come to mind are Calder, Saprykin, Nagy, Conroy (37 next season, I think my opinion on him is clear), Brad Stuart (doubt Waddell will go with a D-man), et ali. Rumor has it that he’s looking at Conroy, but here’s to hoping he’s looking at younger options that wont require a trade to acquire.

By Craig Custance

June 25, 2007 11:34 AM | Link to this

Brendan — Hossa rumor came from another news outlet.

By Shoot it

June 25, 2007 11:58 AM | Link to this

Many of you don’t think DW will be able to keep Kozlov but I will go on record that we will have him for at least 2 more years for under 3.5MM.

I do not see what anyone sees in Calder, he has not been able to make an impact on any of the teams he has been with lately. Now Saprykin was a force in the playoffs when he was given icetime. He made things happen. But unless he can play center, the need is clearly for a top rate center.

By ranallo10

June 25, 2007 12:14 PM | Link to this

Shoot It — I like your prediction, and I really hope you’re right.

As for Calder, I think he’s the type of player Waddell is good at finding on the cheap, and hopefully the laid back attitude in Atlanta (compared to Philadelphia and Detroit) would be a benefit for him. He had 59 points with Chicago two seasons ago (relatively low pressure), but followed with 35 last season (high pressure in Philadelphia and Detroit). For substantially less than the $2.95M he made last season, he could be a much better version of Sim.

Saprykin is a force, though he was a fourth liner for Ottawa and was a healthy scratch at times. His grit is something the team could use, as his forechecking tenacity is typical of a grinding/checking line player. However, for Ottawa he tallied two points in 12 games, and another two points in the 15 playoff games. I don’t believe he’s had more than 40 points in a season, but that’s not what you look for in a checking line winger. I like Dupuis though, so if it’s between the two, I’d stick with Dupuis.

By GaVaHokie

June 25, 2007 12:23 PM | Link to this

I still like Jeff O’Neill for Kovy’s line… I rank him slightly lower than Tkachuk and way higher than Mellanby for the same skill set… aggressive, stand in front of the net, type player… less than $2 million a year.

I would lean towards Saprykin over Dupuis just for playoff experience… I think you put brackets around those two and pick one of them.

Only grab Nagy if Kozlov goes unsigned. Conroy… no thanks. Calder… I agree with Shoot It I’ve never seen anything from him that impressed me… especially his career -52 plus minus rating.

By N2Hockey

June 25, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this

i say get rid of em all and start new…. Bring back sim and ship em all out.

By N2Hockey

June 25, 2007 12:44 PM | Link to this

i say get rid of em all and start new…. Bring back sim and ship em all out.

By ranallo10

June 25, 2007 12:49 PM | Link to this

Come on Hokie, we all know +/- is severely impacted by playing on a bad team. 31 of those -52 came from Philadelphia last year ALONE. Over his last four seasons prior he had a -20, IN CHICAGO! For that -20, he 193PTS (79G, 114A)and 168PIM over 308 games played. He’s not a penalty risk, he’s a scorer, and with the right team, he can be a producer. For his 19 games with Detroit he had 14 points…that’s more than Vigier and Larsen had all season. In fact, that’s only 5 points less than Dupuis had all season.

I agree to go after Nagy if Kozlov isn’t resigned. I’d lean towards Saprykin if all was equal, but Dupuis will be cheaper and already has a chemistry with this team. That’s hard to replicate.

By The Falconer

June 25, 2007 12:54 PM | Link to this

I tend to agree with Bob on the Kozlov situation. I’m guessing the offer is for public relations. Sure he will take Kozlov back for a below makert price and I’m guessing that is what they are are offering him.

The money just isn’t there for three expensive wingers when the team has a gaping hole at the center position. If you sign Kozlov to $7million over 2 years how in the world are you going to find a center with any talent to play up front?

By FakeName

June 25, 2007 1:32 PM | Link to this

I heard Kozlov wants to stay in Atlanta for his kids’ sake. I can’t vouch for that though.

By Brendan

June 25, 2007 1:44 PM | Link to this

I’ve kinda liked Saprykin. I have no idea what he costs. But he was decent in the 2004 Playoffs with Calgary. And, he did score a rather important goal for the Flames. It was the OT game winner in Game Five in Tampa Bay. I can live with Saprykin. But I still like Dupuis quite a bit. He’s fast. And in today’s NHL, skating just may be the #1 skill a player can have. Though, it’s a combination of skills. Slater has great wheels. The knock is his hands are slow. Right now, I’d love to have a guy who won a high percentage of all his battles along the corner boards. (So would everyone!! Chuckling. Fair enough.) The Thrashers have needed that “buzzsaw” kind of player, who is so utterly gritty in the corners, winning puck battles. Have they EVER had that? I kinda think Keith Tkachuk was sorta that guy. Gritty in the corners, won puck battles. But he was a “straight up rental.” If Don could find this sort (not Tkachuk, okay?) of player, he’d have done very well.

By Brendan

June 25, 2007 2:01 PM | Link to this

Craig, thank you for that trade rumor clarification. Waddell may not take the time to read this blog. So, I just didn’t want him to think we started false rumors about a Hossa trade. That would be irresponsible on our parts. It’s one thing to say, “I saw on such and such website, and provide a link, or at least, parenthetical documentation of source, that … and post the contents of the rumor.

Craig, what do you think of Balsillie’s losing a 2nd NHL bid on a franchise (Nashville)? Will he try again? Will he keep overpaying in the process? And what’s the latest from Tim Tucker on the Belkin vs. Spirit Group situation?

By ranallo10

June 25, 2007 2:26 PM | Link to this

Falconer — you’re right, there is a public relations ASPECT to the Kozlov situation, but it’s not like it’s necessary for Waddell to make such an offer public. Kozlov is not a marketed player, he is not a player that brings fans into seats, he is relatively unimportant in the fans eyes. In fact, not many fans appreciated his contributions until this past season, when it became obvious what he brought to the team. Because of this, it’s not NECESSARY for Waddell to make such an offer public. I guess we’ll have to agree to disagree on this one, because I personally don’t understand the reason Waddell would posture on a negotiation process all fans know is an uphill battle all ready.

As for the money invested in Kozlov, both Holik and Rucchin come off the books next season. His salary impact would not be felt beyond this coming season. Of the $6.65M freed up from those two lost contracts, I imagine some would be portioned towards Hossa’s new contract, as well as Lehtonen’s RFA contract. Let’s IMAGINE that Kozlov gets signed for $3.5M, leaving $3.15M available based on those two players’ expiring contracts — I feel it’s safe to assume that Holik, if re-signed, will not make the same amount, if even half of that $4M. I also feel it’s safe to assume that Hossa can be renegotiated, and possibly come in at $8M max per season ($1M annual raise from his current salary). Kozlov’s contract of $3.5M wouldn’t impede these negotiations…there’d be $2.5M left for negotiating with Lehtonen, without a re-signing of Holik. That’s untouched money, already portioned towards current roster slots, that can be used to keep the services of more valuable players.

I imagine Lehtonen will be worth $3-4M after next season, and Hossa worth $7.5-$8M.

Basically, I think it’s doable.

By GaVaHokie

June 25, 2007 2:29 PM | Link to this

Having Dupuis and Slater on the same line next year might drive me crazy… two speedy forwards with great playmaking skills, but can’t finish a shot? That was my knock on Kyle Wellwood in Toronto last year. I called him “Muffin” for his cute little muffin shot… so much upside but couldn’t finish a shot to save his life. Beautiful moves to the net and then get stoned by the goalie on a weak wrister.

By Tony C.

June 25, 2007 3:06 PM | Link to this

Saprykin is a nice addition to anyone’s roster I would think. He’s gritty, ballsy and pretty darn responsible…ALthough if it comes down to him or Dupuis, I liked Dupuis, Larsen and Holik together….I will admit I was high on getting Conroy this time last year that was before watching him gradually lose TOI on a not-so-good LA squad before being re-united with Iginla and still not producing (honestly, did anyone think those two wouldn’t rediscover at least a portion of their former chemistry?)! At this point, I would hope that we pass on him. I would like to hear Smolinski’s name mentioned more often, as I thought his performance before and (especially)after being traded was quite good-a “value for the money” type of guy.

Sign Slava-Matic

GO BLUE!!!

By ranallo10

June 25, 2007 3:08 PM | Link to this

Craig — Any word on those qualifying offers?

By Bob

June 25, 2007 4:18 PM | Link to this

ranallo, I keep trying to put you ahead of the curve, but you just don’t want to get it. And, apparently, you don’t pay attention too well, or your memory is gone (so enjoy that glass house of yours, ya goof).

Uh, Sparky, it certainly IS Waddell’s well documented history over his 8 year tenure to publicly talk about negotiations with his impending UFA’s, and bad mouth them, and then decry how he didn’t think they were worth what they were asking for (and what they wind up getting elsewhere). He first did it with Audette, he did it with Brunette, and it’s become a mark of his. That’s why when he threw Kozlov under the bus a couple weeks ago in Craig’s column about his disappointment in Kozzy’s playoff performance, the writing was on the wall right there that Waddell had already written him off.

So, yes, ranallo, you’re wrong about this one too, Waddell’s done it many times in the past and he’s doing it again with Kozlov now. It’s smart of him, it helps him save face to newbies like you that lap up every word he says.

Hey, he tried to sign him but Kozzy just didn’t want to play here!

You’ll get the picture when Kozzy signs with the Wings or whoever on Sunday afternoon for $4m per year on a 4 year deal.

By ranallo10

June 25, 2007 5:00 PM | Link to this

Bob, first, stop trolling through old blogs looking to pick fights, or finish fights, or make a witty statement.

Second, you didn’t use quite enough LOLs in this last post, I commend you for finally embracing your age and no longer masking it with “hip” terminology or slang vernacular. Oh wait…”newbie”…nevermind.

Third, what GM doesn’t do what Waddell has done in the past?? What did Edmonton’s GM say after trading Ryan Smith?? Doesn’t it make sense that EVERY GM IN THE NATIONAL HOCKEY LEAGUE ATTEMPTS TO SIGN THEIR GOOD PLAYERS BEFORE LETTING THEM GO ON THE MARKET??? Personally, I think it makes absolute sense that you attempt to re-sign your alternate captain, and third leading scorer on your roster, within your salary cap. It’s not rocket science to “predict” that the “the Wings or whoever on Sunday afternoon [will sign] Kozlov for $4M per year on a 4 year deal”…it’s an understood that the Thrashers can’t afford that. It’s a HOPE of the GMs that he will sign for less. S**, it’s a hope for most of us. I don’t blame Waddell for saying “Kozlov and Belanger’s line underperformed during the playoffs, we need our top line to play like a top line”…that’s not throwing an individual under the bus. That’s holding a line to the “ACCOUNTABILITY” that you continually wish upon this ownership group. You’re a hypocrit for reading into everything Waddell does and trying to find the negative, even if it matches things you’ve been wishing for all along.

Waddell’s roster is too old, but he’s an idiot if he doesn’t sign a 36 year old center…HYPOCRACY!

Waddell is an idiot for not making any moves, but the moves he made at free agency got him to the playoffs, however those moves were risking the immediate future of the franchise, so he’s a moron…HYPOCRACY!

Waddell can’t draft well, as evidence by his lack of superstar talent outside of the top 15 picks he’s made, but he’s mortgaging the team’s future by trading future draft picks for immediate help…HYPOCRACY!

You must be living in a damn plexi-glass house if you don’t realize all the crap you say, then contradict, then throw in the face of people who disagree with you. MAKE A POINT, STICK TO THAT POINT, AND STOP ALTERING YOUR OPINION SO THAT YOU ALWAYS APPEAR CORRECT. You’re the lead moron of the group that is comprised of you, Sage, and any other person who continually uses the word “obfuscate”.

Oh yeah, and you’re old…go retire somewhere and check your dentures at the door. You’re not 20 anymore, you never will be again, let it go.

“newbie”…chuckle

By Brendan

June 25, 2007 5:39 PM | Link to this

Isn’t the deadline for RFAs to be tendered qualifying offers … like … midnight?

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