Thrashers

By Jason

February 1, 2007 03:51 PM | Link to this

There’s plenty of room out there for Vish…if Hartley would just sit deVries instead! All you have to do is skate to his right and you can go right by him with little resistance. Exelby hasn’t exactly helped matters much either on that line by playing for big hits at the wrong time instead of playing the puck.

By michael

February 1, 2007 04:16 PM | Link to this

Vish is the one who miss times his hits, or misses and gets caught out of position. Get rid of Vish in a trade.

As far as Dunham goes he cost us the playoffs last year and this year decides to play good. F8ck him! Somebody needs to kick that guys a$$!

By Buzilla

February 1, 2007 04:26 PM | Link to this

Dunham should die of Gonorrhoea!!!!

By L. M. Hull

February 1, 2007 04:35 PM | Link to this

It is hard to read these posts and believe 1. That the people who post them are “sport fans” and, 2. That they are adults.

By mb

February 1, 2007 04:41 PM | Link to this

Craig, speaking of backup goalies, any sense for when we’ll see the Moose back on the ice? Initially I thought tonight and/or Saturday was a good opportunity to give Kari some rest before facing the Sabres and hitting the road.

Apparently Delmore is considered to be a power play specialist…let’s hope so. And to my knowledge Deveaux is the greatest player in Bahamian history, for what that’s worth.

As for Vish and Devries, they both played fairly well earlier in the season and both have looked sloppy for the last month and a half, so it’s a bit of a coin toss. My guess is that Devo brings a little more offense to the ice, plus he’s BH’s boy, so he plays.

By GaVaHokie

February 1, 2007 04:47 PM | Link to this

Andy Delmore… that’s actually pretty interesting. Again, I like Waddell’s eye for lost talent. I compare this to Steve McCarthy… Delmore has great offensive skills and a hard shot. He scored a decent amount of points in Nashville, and seemed to be on the upswing until he was traded to Buffalo… he’s been lost ever since.

By Bob

February 1, 2007 04:55 PM | Link to this

Picked up Delmore? Mabye a little bit of depth/insurance policy as he gets ready to move one of our 8 dmen that are up here now?

Oh, I wish I had tix to tonight’s game to go boo Dunham. Those you of you going, make sure to let him have it!

By michael

February 1, 2007 04:55 PM | Link to this

Wadell needs to make a real trade.

By Jennifer

February 1, 2007 04:58 PM | Link to this

I too would prefer Vish to Devo…but all signs point to Vish finishing the season in someone else’s uniform. Michael is right, he gets so focused on making a hit that he leaves position and gives up a goal.

By michael

February 1, 2007 05:00 PM | Link to this

Whoopeeedoo, we just traded out minor leaguers. What exactly was the point of that trade.

By Moberg

February 1, 2007 05:07 PM | Link to this

I was hoping the boys would shell Dunham last time we saw the Islanders, but it’s nice to have another shot, or two, or three or 50!

Hopefully, Kovy can fire off another hat-trick and finally catch up to the the goal scoring pace while Kari shuts them down for a goose egg. He’s due for another shutout.

Go Blue!

By Moberg

February 1, 2007 05:10 PM | Link to this

Oh yeah…

What is the deal with that worthless trade? Hopefully, just some manuevers to set up for a trade that will have some impact. Bring on Foresberg!

By Brian

February 1, 2007 05:12 PM | Link to this

Michael - maybe he is just putting the chesspieces in place? You have to move the pawns before you capture the King.

By LAC

February 1, 2007 05:24 PM | Link to this

Just when I thought waddell was going to do something… THIS ?????

I give up on this CLOWN, time for him to GO AWAY… We need Professional centers to prop our scoring asap, esp for this western swing… BUT NOOOOO

So look for little or nothing and if there is a trade… it will be another nothing one like this one!!!

Great job don… I wish you all the luck in the world as a street sweeper !

By mb

February 1, 2007 05:43 PM | Link to this

Check out the Alan Muir article on SI.com regarding rental players, including a mention that the Thrashers should keep working towards making their run next year.

By R. Stroz

February 1, 2007 05:57 PM | Link to this

Let’s trade Vish and Devo for Brewer.

By R. Stroz

February 1, 2007 06:00 PM | Link to this

I hope Dunham plays as well tonight as he did against the Capitals last year when he gave up six goals in the playoff run (the seventh goal was an empty netter if I rmember properly).

By Midfield

February 1, 2007 06:02 PM | Link to this

Vish vs. DeVries? I think, Vish beats DeVries in every category: he is much stronger and neither slower, nor worse offensively (remember his beautiful back-hander on the rush at Philips - don’t remember who against). He has marginally less points because he pinches less - and more responsibly, I should stay. He gives you another hitting option, which is a must for a play-off run. Something’s amiss here.

By R. Stroz

February 1, 2007 06:03 PM | Link to this

I hope Dunham plays as well for the Islanders tonight as he did against the Capitals during the playoff run last year, six goals and no effort.

By Craig Custance

February 1, 2007 06:17 PM | Link to this

MB — I’d be surprised if we see Johan Hedberg before Buffalo. Kari likes the work, and with the way the schedule is set up, the Thrashers don’t play back-to-back games until March 15-16. A few people from New Jersey thought Kari was fighting the puck a little against the Devils, and maybe that’s why Bob rested him during Wednesday’s practice. But I think we’ll continue to see him get the nod for awhile. Now, naturally I could be completely wrong, and Johan will start against Philly, but I’d be surprised.

By Dave

February 1, 2007 06:46 PM | Link to this

Delmore was just the best when he played in Philly. No one will forget that tremendous playoffs he had in a Flyers uniform. So what happened? The new NHL, that’s what happened. If he wasn’t given a look by the Lightning (yeah, Boyle is their PP guy, but still..) then don’t expect much in a Thrashers uniform if ever. This trade means nothing.

By Darren

February 1, 2007 06:51 PM | Link to this

Craig, readers, what do you think about Josef Stumpel?

He’s a good passer who has more often than not put up good plus/minus numbers and takes very few penalties.

To me, that equates to a (admittedly) poor man’s Savard offensively, but without the penalty and defensive liabilities.

He’ll be a UFA at the end of the year, but do you think Florida would be willing to part with him?

By R. Stroz

February 1, 2007 07:27 PM | Link to this

DEVO is sooo bad that he is scoring for the other team now. Poor defense wasn’t bad enough so he has turned to redirecting shots for the other team.

By russian

February 1, 2007 07:51 PM | Link to this

I am just waiting to see when Hartly says something about #7. Every time when he is on ice, I am get scary about our defence. I can not believe keep Vish on doghouse and give time for this idiot. ;-(

By Tom

February 1, 2007 08:43 PM | Link to this

Maybe we should get Devo the dunce cap and put him in the corner. Or was it the DEVO hat from the videos. :)

By dj

February 1, 2007 09:32 PM | Link to this

Bad bounces. That’s all that game amounts too.

By Tom

February 1, 2007 09:42 PM | Link to this

Bad Bounces and Bad Eyes. How Rucchin is unable to knock the puck into an empty net from 6 feet is amazing.

Nice Slater finally got a shot on net.

By russian

February 1, 2007 09:45 PM | Link to this

We were playing very bad. I could not win regulation time game. We gave up goals so easy. We have to change PP completely. This is PP CRAP. We need center and #7 needs to take a break. I think Kari needs a break also. He looked tired for me.

By LAC

February 1, 2007 09:47 PM | Link to this

5-2 DISGUSTING says it all…

This was simply AWFUL tolose tothe Islaners… a team with Two top players out, we get beat by Dunham who was a BUST here last year and now look at us… This STINKS… another 5-3 WASTED, I cannot believe it, then get kit up for three in the third.

Folks… We looked more like a team playing out the string rather than a division leader… Just sick,sick.

I have spoken all along about theneed for more scoring and we need 2-3 players, TWO centers is the real issue.

rucchin and kappenan are just not doing the job. We have three ALL-STARS in Chicago, lighting it up… WHY ARE THEY NOT HERE ?????????

I would much rather see the kids from Chicago than ANYMORE rucchin/kappenan/slater, those three have run out of time here.

But with THE brilliant GM we have, we will likely trade Hossa for a fourth round pick…

With the western trip coming and now 3-3 on HOME ICE the past 6 home games… We HAVE to get some scoring and better defense, GOOD-BYE deVries, #3 should be back in… Another loss to Philly coming up ???? Most Likely !

By russian

February 1, 2007 09:58 PM | Link to this

to LAC I agree with you. Philly almost win in NJ. They lost 4:5 on OT. Saturday game will not be easy. I saw Thrasher latly and we are in Big Trouble. Tampa is Hot rigth now. Tampa and Carolina stay on second plase behind us.

By Jason

February 1, 2007 10:09 PM | Link to this

And yet deVries will probably end up going out there Saturday instead of Coburn or Vish. Loved the one he scored on Kari tonight and love the way he was out of position on the PK to give up the backbreaker.

By kevin

February 1, 2007 10:18 PM | Link to this

Where to start?

The PP. Tuesday we put Kovy down low score a goal immediately and he hasn’t been back there since. We don’t vary our patterns at all, the other team always knows where the shot is coming from, Kovy at the point, there is no variation and nobody in front of the net except for Mellanby. On the 5 on 3 their is nobody except for Kovy willing to shoot the puck.

Penalty Kill is 27th in the league. How is that possible for a 1st place team? They consistently let the other team camp in front of the net. If a team is in first there is obviously talent in place so to be 27th on the kill has to be a sign that the system is flawed. The PK was also subpar last year, Hartley needs to evaluate his systems and make changes, with these special teams the playoffs will be a short lived experience.

There is no physical presence on this team. We were outhit 2-1 and in the first period alone we had only one hit.

Devries on the ice instead of Vish, unbelievable.That would help the physical side of the game just by him being out there. If we all agree on one thing it’s that Devries is by far the worst defenseman on this team.

Playoff teams win on home ice and dominate on special teams. This team needs a center, and must learn how to dominate on home ice. We let a team come into our building with Yashin, Bates, and Poti out, and yet they outhit us and basically take two points with three of their big guns out. Unexceptable, Hartley needs to evaluate his performance as well as that of his hockey club.

By Michael Shapiro

February 1, 2007 11:37 PM | Link to this

Nice of Devo to give the Islanders their first goal. Wish we’d sit his lame a** down and put Vish back on the ice. As for the PP, once again they came up empty. Could not believe that we futzed around for 40 seconds of a 5 on 3 until Kovy took the first shot. What’s up with Kozzy? Is he afraid to shoot? EVERY team in the NHL knows that it’s Kovy who is gonna shoot. Why don’t we just give them the puck and say forget the PP? If we don’t change the PP, we can hang it up. I’d rather Coach BENCHED Kovy on the PP just so that someone else might realize we have to shoot. Slates got a nice goal tonight because we shot and then played the rebound. Why can’t we do that on the PP. SIGH.

By Bob

February 2, 2007 08:46 AM | Link to this

Mabye they’re sitting Vish because he’s the guy headed out in the trade and they don’t want to risk injury? Just a thought.

They changed the PP up on Tuesday and it clicked. Why revert back to the same scheme last night? Makes no sense. Bad coaching.

Also, there were some key draws to be won last night, and he kept sending Mellanby out to take some of them, Rucchin others. Send Holik out, win the puck, then swap him out.

Who gave up that puck on the Isle’s 3rd goal? Was that Kovy? Idiotic play.

Make a move, Waddell.

By Thrasher_Ed

February 2, 2007 09:30 AM | Link to this

Anyone watch Hartley’s postgame presser? Man, he looked like he could have spit nails! I wish he would go ahead and call out the un-mentioned player(Ilya Kovalchuk) in the press. He looks like he makes strides and yet he never fully gets it. We make to many dumb mistakes with the puck. Kovy’s turnovers and foolishness with trying to do too much by himself. We need some help and right now. Waddell waits another 2 weeks and this thing could be all over but the crying. Look what Carolina did last year? Time to make a meaningful move DON! Totally don’t understand why Hartley does not sit Devo, call up Haydar and send Boulton down(totally wasted spot on our roster), Come boys, Wake Up!! We need a 7 game win streak ala Tampa! Let’s Go Thrashers!!!!

By GaVaHokie

February 2, 2007 09:43 AM | Link to this

To whoever quoted Alan Muir, don’t listen to that guy, he’s a hack… this is the same guy at the beginning of the season that said Ilya Kovalchuk was going to be the biggest drop-off player of the year and that Alex Tanguay was going to have over 100 points this season.

By GaVaHokie

February 2, 2007 09:48 AM | Link to this

Don’t get your panties in a bunch LAC… there are bigger deals coming. Don’t over think the Delmore trade other than what it is within itself.

Trading Wanvig, a guy we just picked up off the street in the off season and Stephen Baby, a busted prospect for a defenseman with playoff experience and one of the hardest slapshots in the game is a pretty good deal.

And lets not forget the other half, Devaux. A 240 lb. C/RW… if you look at Devaux and Baby side by side, even that part alone is an upgrade.

By Tony C.

February 2, 2007 10:25 AM | Link to this

Man that was ugly last night.

BOOO!!!!

Saturday is the perfect time to turn it around.

LET’S GO BLUE !!!

By michael

February 2, 2007 10:50 AM | Link to this

Ga va hokie—- how about the fact that Delmore is a career minus36. His best season was with Philly in 01 02 he was a plus 2. He has been a minus player every other year. This was a minor league swap, this guy will never see ice time in atlanta.

By GaVaHokie

February 2, 2007 11:04 AM | Link to this

Michael… I realize that… I posted on the Nasty Nest that I don’t expect to see Delmore in the Thrashers line-up anymore than we already see Mark Popovic. On a minor league level, this is a great deal. He’s won Defenseman of the year in the AHL as well as 1st team All-Star. He’s certainly an upgrade to our depth.

By Michael

February 2, 2007 11:13 AM | Link to this

The only uprgrade delmore is, is for the wolves not the thrashers.

Interesting that Hartley blames Kovy’s turnover the reason for the loss again. He blamed Kovy for the loss at NJ earlier when they scored two goals on the 5-3. How about no adjustments made to the pp during the entire game. The game before changes were made and it was successful. Last night it was the same old crap!

By Brian

February 2, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this

LAC - I wouldn’t promote calling up the Wolves for more assistance. Krog was a superstar down there and what did he do here?

GaVaHokie & Michael - As for Delmore, I am thinking it is just an emergency backup in case one of our final 6 Dmen gets injured or something like that. Of course I am in the mindset that more trades will come and we will be reduced from 8 Dmen to 6 Dmen.

By Matt H

February 2, 2007 11:29 AM | Link to this

I’m sorry but, “die of Gonnorhea”?!? LOL… It’s very hard to make it look like I’m working right now…

By GaVaHokie

February 2, 2007 11:42 AM | Link to this

I never said I expected him to play for Atlanta, but if you want to get down to the nitty gritty numbers, then fine. You point out his -36 plus/minus… -30 of that came in his two years with a young defensively irresponsible Nashville team.

Let’s compare Delmore to our current PP QB Steve McCarthy.

McCarthy= 236 career games, 44 points on 226 shots, 6% SH

Delmore= 283 career games, 101 points on 547 shots, 8% SH

By michael

February 2, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this

This was a trade to bolster the wolves in their run for the calder cup. Delmore is not fit for the new nhl. He is now a career minor leaguer. This trade is absolutley meaningless as far as the thrashers go.

By GaVaHokie

February 2, 2007 11:55 AM | Link to this

I’ll further qualify that Delmore is a Utility player or seventh defenseman that you put in for special occasions. In his case, the power play. It’s no different than carrying Boulton on your bench for physical play.

By R. Stroz

February 2, 2007 11:56 AM | Link to this

Here’s an idea to show fan support for Devries, instead yelling the oppossing goalies name followed by you suck, let yell Devries name followed by you suck.

By Bob

February 2, 2007 12:11 PM | Link to this

I think Delmore is depth that is needed since Waddell is about to trade a defenseman away. The dman he trades away could be Valabik or Popovic in Chicago, so Delmore will be needed to fill their spot. Or it could be depth because he’ll trade one of our 8 guys up here now, and in case someone else gets hurt down the stretch or in the playoffs, then we’ve got a guy to call up.

By michael

February 2, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this

Wadell will never trade Valabik and he shouldn’t. Popovic maybe, but teams are going to want roster players not prospects.

By Brian

February 2, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this

THANK YOU BOB! Right on, let’s just hope that is what is about to happen.

By Bob

February 2, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this

I agree with you Michael that Valabik will be valueable, we’ll need young guys that can play in the lineup to keep us in good shape with the cap. But you always have to consider what you’re getting in return. To me, no one is untouchable, as long as you’re getting the proper return.

By Matt H

February 2, 2007 12:43 PM | Link to this

Oy, what a turd. To be honest, I stopped watching with about 5 min left in the second period and did chores with the game going in the background; so my two-penny recap will be worth about one cent today. But still, I saw one thing I liked, and a bunch I didn’t, so here it is:

Loved: Nothing

Liked: Kari’s play; he’s been a rock since his benching earlier in the season, doing little things consistently that young goalies at his level can struggle with. He give this team a chance to win every night. I like that Slater finally scored (of course I was in the damn shower when it happened).

Disliked: Just about everything. DeVries giving the Isles their first goal was, um, telling. Crap power play. Crap effort. Crap PK. Crap offense. Crap defense. Just plain Crap.

Hated: DeVries- What the hell has happened to this guy?, 25-minutes of play by our team, liberally, followed by 35 minutes of joke-telling.

What I also hated was reading that Don Waddell said (I’m paraphrasing) that he’d take any points they could get right now.

As far as I’m concerned, at this point in the season you honestly need to be sweating how you win as much as that you win.

The fact that the team, win or lose, seems only to be able to put up 30 good minutes of hockey right now is cause to worry.

Like, a lot.

Unless you’re not all that concerned with getting to or anywhere in the playoffs.

That’s why I’m glad we lost last night.

Maybe that’ll prove to some of the team that you can’t keep playing like this and escaping with OT winz by the skin of your a*.

But I’m guessing it’ll take another loss to Philly before that really sinks in.

By michael

February 2, 2007 01:04 PM | Link to this

Bob, I agree that you have to give up alot to get alot in return. But who is available right now that would be worth giving up alot for? We really need two centers because somehow Wadell thought we could have 3 3rd line centers, well really 4 and it would work. Like you said Forsberg is not the answer, although he has played well in his last 2 games. Smolinski maybe, he would probably play well with Hoss since they were on the same team, but he is old. With the standings as tight as they are I just don’t see alot of trades really happening. The Brad Boyes rumor would be nice if they would take a defensemen in an even swap.

By Dr.Doom

February 2, 2007 01:51 PM | Link to this

How big of a loser do you have to be to enjoy watching this obviously gay sport?

By Matt H

February 2, 2007 02:17 PM | Link to this

I didn’t know you could post from Latveria… Greetings, friend!

By Brian

February 2, 2007 03:27 PM | Link to this

Apparantley “Dr. Doom” suffered one too many concussions from rythmic gymnastics to understand what it takes to be a hockey player.

By pondscum

February 2, 2007 09:20 PM | Link to this

Dr. Doom- yes,it is a happy sport to watch.But the real question is,how big of a loser does it take like yourself to be here trolling here?

Anyways, I’d rather have Vish over Devo anyday.But, no one is gonna touch devo,so Vish is the roster player we trade away for help.If you can trade him for a PP QB defenseman or a more mobile,puck mover….then you don’t have to worry about Devo seeing the ice for awhile.But it would help if Hartley quit his favortism for Devo also.

If you can deal Vish for a top 6 forward-center or winger,to put on a line with Kovy.Then just let Coburn take the #6 spot on the blueline.