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Clean Old Fashioned Hate…Memories?
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Its that time of year Yellow Jacket fans…the week of Thanksgiving and the biggest weekend of the year if you are a football fan. My family takes turns spending the holiday seasons between grandparents’ houses in central Georgia and Tampa Florida.
We have things set up so that we’re in Georgia on years when the GT vs UGA game is in Bobby Dodd Stadium and we’re in Tampa on years when the GT vs UGA game is in Sanford & Son Stadium there in Athens. I’ll very likely watch the game at a sports bar in Orlando with my buddy Dave, who is visiting family over near Vero Beach. He’s got the same arrangement that I do and Orlando has some great sports bars where we can meet up at in the middle of the state. (If any Orlando alumni club folks read this blog, feel free to post up the details on where the official watch party will be…)
I used to make special trips back to Georgia in order to make it to this game. I was there in 1998, 2000, 2002, and 2004. So I not only witnessed Brad Chamber’s field goal and Godsey’s dominance but also 51-7 and Reggie’s infamous 4th down play. (I still maintain the down wasn’t marked correctly on the endzone scoreboard…) Once we added kids to the mix, I had to give up the special trips. Its just not realistic to leave the wife driving solo with two kids for seven hours.
Honestly, I don’t miss the bi-yearly trips to the Cess Pool. I’ve wound up in shouting matches during every trip and nearly wound up in a fight in 2002. (Some UGA fans just don’t know how to react around female fans and my mother didn’t raise me to stand by and watch a girl have expletives screamed in her ear…regardless of which team she cheers for…)
My crew and I have decided that all future games in Athens are “men only” trips. Its just not worth the risk of getting into a fight when the inevitable drunken mutt decides to pick on a supposedly easy (female or young) target.
I’ll post more about the game itself on Friday while working off my turkey hangover. For right now I’m curious about personal experiences that my fellow GT fans have had in Athens. I have heard from people who have gotten into altercations, have had their vehicles vandalized, have had beer poured on them, and have been urinated on among other things.
I’m interested in hearing from GT fans who are heading to Athens this weekend or GT fans who have stories about previous trips to watch the Jackets and mutts play. What are your memories and recollections. What gets you cranked up and excited about this game. What motivates you to venture into an unwashed sea of drooling and barking clowns dressed in red and black?
Go Jackets!
THWG!





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Comments
By ramblin gamblin
November 26, 2008 2:16 PM | Link to this
I used to hear people say that Clemson had the most obnoxious fans, but on visits to Frank Howard Field I’ve found it to be just the opposite. My son and I have been seated right in the middle of Clemson fans and they yell and pull for the Tigers but they’re very courteous and treat the opposing fans with friendliness. For the most part they behaved like Southern Gentlemen should. NOW, Athens is a different story. Too many drunks, too much loud profanity and groups of scavengers roam the tailgate areas while the game is in progress. I’m sure there are some UGA fans that have some class, but just aren’t enough of them. I know a decent UGA fan who has had to hire a “tent sitter” so that during the game no one rips off his tailgate gear. Sad but true. My gut feeling is that most of college football’s really BAD fans never attended a single class of any college. If they had, they would want to represent their school in a positive way.
By gtne80
November 26, 2008 2:40 PM | Link to this
I’ve been a Tech fan since I was a kid, and graduated from there, but never been to a game in Athens. I’ve been to enough games at Grant Field with UGA fans to know that I don’t want to be in a position of being where they are in a majority.
From my experiences at Grant Field, I’ve found that it’s a no win scenario. If they win, they ridicule you all the way back to your car. If Tech wins, they’re still obnoxious, only in that case they’re just uglier.
As far as GT-UGA games, my all-time favorite was the 1985 game. Gary Lee put us back in the lead with a kickoff return. Then our defense hung tough. The guys on that team were tough as leather. I remember Ted Roof playing the last defensive series with his arm hanging loosely from the shoulder, but he was still in on 3 of 4 tackles.
On another note, I miss Lewis Grizzard these weeks. I know that he was a Dawg, but he was one of the few that I had some respect for. I’ll never forget his column after the 1978 game and his article before the 1990 game. He knew what the rivalry was all about.
Miss you Lewis.
THWG!
By Class of '98
November 26, 2008 3:05 PM | Link to this
Still contend the down wasn’t maked correctly on the scoreboard?? Good grief.
This is from a fan that no doubt contends that Jasper Sanks really fumbled.
Give me a break.
8 in ‘08 nerds.
By 3 Rivers jacket
November 26, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this
Just a few from osmeone who has seen in person or on tv most of the games in the las 50 years or so. Bubba Hoats 3 interceptions in 69 The heartbreak when Poulus dived over the top in 71 The stompin Pepper gave them in the snow in 74. Another headache with the last second fumble that saved the Sugar Bowl bound dogs in 76 The greatest game ever in 78. Tech wins easily if Eddie Lee does not get hurt. He had 164 yards with 3 minutes left in the third quarter. The blowouts when herschel was there. Dewberry and the Jackets getting the Hedge in 84 after killing the Dogs. This is the game that Dooley refused to move for tv (you could do that then) Curry said that”he would play them in the AP parking lot in Monroe if they wanted to” I knew the Jackets would win when I ehard that. Gary Lee goes 95 in 85. Jerry Mays carries 39 times in 89 and we blow them out. On the way to the NC we stop by Athens and score 40 on them. It could have been 60 The heartbreak of the bad interference call in 97. Brad Chambers kick in 98. The makeup call in 99 with the Phantom fumble. Game should have been over early .We were leading 24-7 when we fumbled a punt and let Georgia in the game. In 2000 the Dawgs fans were leaving at halftime. Donnan was fired for that game and nothing else. 2002 the all time debacle as Gailey loses to the dogs and loses the fans forever. Tony Taylor picks up a fumble and runs it in in 2006. We had the better team but did not win. Three balls in teh endzone in 07.If we just get one we probably win. 2008- option runs the Dawgs all the way to the Weedeater Bow.
By GradyGrad96
November 26, 2008 3:20 PM | Link to this
Lots of hostility. Whew! I’m not sure where you sit or what you are yelling or saying during the game. But I have never experienced these idiots who swear are kids or opposing fans. And I have had seats all over Sanford. I do agree my alma matter has more than its fair share of fans that neither have all their teeth, attened 1 second of a class there, or had a remote chance of being accepted to the school. I’m wondering what you might be doing to instigate the populous of the area in which you sit.
I for one am just there to watch games. I don’t condone foul language. But if you poke the dog, pardon, mess with a nest of jackets, you get what you deserve.
Your writing does not do justice to the quality people that have turned out of the Tech.
By Al Carpenter
November 26, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this
It’s amazing how blind you are to the truth. All schools have fans that get out of control. As a former member of the Redcoat Marching Band, I will say that Grant field is the absolute worst place to visit. We were continually pelted by cups, ice and anything else not tied down while we were on the field. I never saw another school throw anything or used the language that Tech fans did. As you can imagine Tech holds a special place in the pit of my stomach. My advice to you is look in the mirror once in a while and see the truth.
By Mickey Harris
November 26, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this
The last time I was at the GT,uga game was in 1998 ya’ll remember that one. W hen I was leaving after the great victory a bunch of pups at a fraternity house were throwing loaded 12 ounce beer bottles at me. I looked up at the pups, and said sorry little drunk losers, and this big boy said you think I’m little you dumb jacket, and I said come on down here. I kicked his a_ _ so bad I had to run, the cops, and ambulance were coming. Go Jackets!
By RhinoGT
November 26, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this
in 2000 i was 13 and after the game i ran up to the bell they have in the middle of campus and started ringing it with all of my yellow cloths on…. turned out to be a bad idea. some drunk redneck started chasing me until my dad cut him off and he chilled off. in 2006 we were leaving the stadium after the loss and uga threw beers out of their truck at me and my dad. no class. this year ill be lucky to get out of there with out getting into a fight. THWG!!!!
By RhinoGT
November 26, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this
in 2000 i was 13 and after the game i ran up to the bell they have in the middle of campus and started ringing it with all of my yellow cloths on…. turned out to be a bad idea. some drunk redneck started chasing me until my dad cut him off and he chilled off. in 2006 we were leaving the stadium after the loss and uga fans threw beers out of their truck at me and my dad. no class. this year ill be lucky to get out of there with out getting into a fight. THWG!!!!
By fred
November 26, 2008 4:07 PM | Link to this
I loved it…just loved it……… ……as a Tech student in ‘57 (I think?) some of my fellow classmates and I went to Athens to witness a 35-0 drubbing of the Dawgs by the Jackets. I think this was Ga. coach Butts last game.
All the “barking” slowed during the game to —-well, a weak whine-e-e-e-e.
I am fuzzy on the date not because I am now 73, but perhaps due to the “drinking-my-whiskey-clear” literal interpretation of Ramblin’ Wreck.
THWG!!!!
By Class of '98
November 26, 2008 4:49 PM | Link to this
RhinoGT was two years away from getting his learners permit the last time Tech beat UGA, now he’s old enough to drink.
That’s funny.
By Tom in ATL
November 26, 2008 5:32 PM | Link to this
You blog about a group of people, and call them: Obnoxious, Drunk, Profane, Mutts, Drooling, and clowns - then wonder why you aren’t well received at their venue….? If you’re getting into shouting matches and nearly fistfights every time you go - I think it might have something to do with you and your attitude, my Nerdy little friend.
Sanford Stadium is docile compared to most venues you go to in the SEC, but I guess if some Loud mouthed, arrogant nerd starts spewing off and insulting the locals - then he’s liable to get an unfavorable reaction.
By mtraininjax
November 26, 2008 6:13 PM | Link to this
I’ve been to Sanford Stadium many times before and you get what you give from the fans. If you are an idiot fan, yes, you are going to get your butt handed to you, but one thing normally works when you have to deal with a drunk, “We are the boys of old Florida”, usually puts them in their place, EVERY YEAR. So no need to fight all the necks in Ugag, just use the Tebow statement, or show up in UF colors, and root for Tech, even better!
I loved the Goose’s last game, Tech got up 27-3 at half and I saw the fans leaving, pouring out of the stadium, it can happen again, we have a quality coach and team. Reggie was a moron, he could not even spell his name. He and his handler are in KC looking for an offense, his old OC is in Miami and he is still looking for his own offense.
Saturday will be fun. Just remember we are all Georgia fans and we have more important things after the 3.5 hours of fun. So don’t take it as personal as one of my frat brothers did in ATL, he punched a dog fan who was walking out raising all kinds of heck. Be gracious in victory and defeat, but in victory, wait till you get back to your vehicle to do the happy dance!
By George P. Burdell
November 26, 2008 9:36 PM | Link to this
You are right on the mark with this one. I’ve gone to every game since 1990, with the exception of a miss in 1991, but I’m passing on it this year. Its just gotten ridiculous in Athens. I have a lot of friends that are Georgia fans and we always have a civilized tailgate and a great time, but its just not worth going to Athens anymore. What is truly sad is that in my college days I sat in the student section, in full Tech garb, and never had any issues. Now, I sit in the Tech section and, as you said, you are guaranteed to run into the person some village is missing for an idiot.
To further your statement, we were leaving four years ago walking through the stadium when some jackass decides to knock my wife’s hat off. I was leading the way to find our way across and didn’t see it happen. She didn’t say a word because she knew it was just going to lead to a confrontation. What little p** watches the guy walk by and then knocks the woman’s hat off? I gave it another chance two years later only to have some jackass so drunk he kept falling into me yell in my face and bark nonstop. Both episodes were totally unprovoked by any measure. I go to games at opposing team’s fields all the time, and you usually find them pretty cordial, but UGA is the pits. I have a wife and a son, and I can’t imagine taking either of them to a game over there ever. To all of the UGA faithful that really have class, I’m sorry but something has to be done about the drunken fans that show up and represent your program. Maybe its because it is the Tech game, but apparently you don’t consider us much of a rival. If that is the case, I can’t even imagine what its like for the teams you consider to be rivals.
By eastwood
November 26, 2008 10:05 PM | Link to this
I was a member of the Tech Band (drumline) in 96 and 97. UGA fans were obnoxious, but I’d bet Tech fans were too for that game. In Athens, the fans threw stuff at us outside the stadium and broke our ranks when marching. I had to push some drunk guy out of the way as we marched along. As for Tech fans, they yelled obscene things at the Tech Band, so I’m sure they did the same for the Redcoats. I can’t remember all the things that went on, but those games left a lasting impression that this is indeed a rivalry full of HATE… and I’ve hated those mutts ever since.
By TECH WRECKED..AGAIN
November 26, 2008 10:30 PM | Link to this
you guys are a bunch of pious, self-ritious hypocrits!!!!
Tell me just ONE incident when the opposing players and coachs had whiskey bottles thrown at them from the stands at Sanford stadium????
It has happened(documented) more than once at Booby Dudd!!!
I have attended games at 14 different venues in the southeast…there are drunk, obnoxious fans at each and every one. The only reason there may be less at Booby Dudd than most…..simple…there are far fewer fans there than any other stadium I have been to!!
By HAHA
November 27, 2008 12:09 AM | Link to this
You’re being redundant, Boggs. No need to tell us you don’t come to Athens anymore, you told us it was a “men only” trip now. Tech fans are just as obnoxious, the only difference being that they are cowards.
By South GA Jacket
November 27, 2008 6:13 AM | Link to this
I haven’t been back for many years & don’t recall a really bad experience although I do remember the UGA louts who used to hang out on the rail embankment before they enclosed the east stands & being pelted more than once by beer bottles & caps while crossing east campus drive.
By War Jacket
November 27, 2008 7:28 AM | Link to this
All teams have a percentage of their fan base that don’t have even a minimal understanding of good sportsmanship. There are several that I sit among me on Saturdays at Grant Field. However, having been to games in just about every SEC location through the years, the school with the highest percentage of a-hole fans is undoubtedly UGAY.
Think about how many rednecks live in GA. 99 out of 100 are UGAY fans, because they can relate so well to barking, drinking, fighting, urinating and yelling DAWGS. These are things that rednecks like to do. They cannot relate to Tech. They don’t like “city boys”. They could never envision themselves from graduating from Tech. In the end, they feel inferior, that’s why to place such importance on beating Tech in sports, because they can’t outdo Tech in more meaningful ways.
Let’s go Tech and beat them at them own little game this Saturday!!!!
By Snellville Jacket
November 27, 2008 8:04 AM | Link to this
My favorite Tech - UGA memories:
1978 - trading phone calls with a UGA fan buddy as the game went back and forth. He got the last call!
1980 - Tech wearing black jerseys and getting killed by Herschel & Co. After the game a reporter asked Erk Russell what he thought about Tech, and Erk said, “They looked good in their new uniforms!” Classic, even for a Tech fan!!!
1985 - Sitting in the student section at Grant Field as the fog rolled over the east stands and Gary Lee broke the long kickoff return to seal the game.
2000 - Sitting in the west stands with my sons as an alumnus, watching Donnan snatch defeat from the jaws of victory by running it up the gut one more time at the goal line, when a field goal would have won it. I miss Jim Donnan!!!
This is a special game with special memories. Let’s make some more on Saturday! Go Jackets!!!!
By GT92
November 27, 2008 8:38 AM | Link to this
Lots of memories- but most clear is 2000 and watching the interception return coming straight at me in the end zone stands. It was cold and rainy that day and I was sitting in the middle of hundreds of Dawg fans. That probably didn’t like my cheers and jeers after that score, but no one said a word. Even walking out of the stadium chanting “Music City Bowl is not that bad!” got no reaction. Guess they are not as tough as some think.
By King of Sandy Springs
November 27, 2008 9:08 AM | Link to this
My girlfriend never believed the fans in Athens were SO bad. She’s a dog grad and she always said, “Oh LSU is bad, and Florida is the worst. We’re pretty tame.” Yes, you and many other alumni are great to hang out with. But there seems to be an overwhelming exception the kind fan. Well, two years ago she got to see first hand what treatment a gold shirt will get you. Even the kids were running up to me and flipping me off. Their dads were cussing me. Two years prior to that, it was a different girlfriend, same experience. Actually, we were both kicked out 5 minutes into the game. Why? Because the “fans” told the cops we were being a-holes. That GIRLFRIEND went to uga, too! She was wearing a rain coat, so you couldn’t really tell. I, however, was wearing gold and stuck out like a sore thumb. After the Goose run game, when we came back to our friend’s uga tailgate, and people we drank with prior to the game, we’re so p** they were waiting on us for a fight. I’d never treat people at my tailgate in that manner. I’ve had fans jump in my face and call me every homoerotic name in the book. It’s constant, every year we play up there, I get the full treatment. But you know what, f’ck it. Me showing up p** the dogs off enough. Dog fans you make Philly fans proud. TO HELL WITH GEORGIA, AND P** ON ‘EM.
By Chris
November 27, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this
The ‘85 fog game with Gary Lee sprinting 96 yards for the go ahead score.
After the game we were crossing the street just outside the stadium and we run into Rufus Guthrie (former Tech All-American), an old friend of my father’s from The Baylor School in Chattanooga. I rememer him being just as giddy as we were. A great night and a great memory. TO HELL WITH GEORGIA!!!!
By Navigator
November 27, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this
I have a different perspective on rivalries, I don’t like them. Too many times they take the focus off of what the season is about. You start out in the first game to win your conference championship, and if lucky play for the national championship, not to focus on winning the rivalry game. I’ll give you a for instance: What do you remember about 1990, beating Georgia or sharing the National Championship with Colorado?
By Sautee Dawg
November 27, 2008 11:28 AM | Link to this
Navigator
Remember the 1990 season very well. Do you think if the BCS was around in 1990 that GT would have still shared that NC? Honestly? Good thing for Tech that it wasn’t. Probally wouldn’t have been ranked high enough to play in that game. Which one of those do you feel better about? Sharing a NC or beating UGA? 9 out of 10 Tech fans would probally choose Beating UGA. According to the Tech blogs You’ve already beaten us this year, I guess we can just consider Saturdays game the first game of next year. Happy Thanksgiving 2 u
By smitty
November 27, 2008 1:24 PM | Link to this
I believe it was the 1985 game in atlanta……tech won and many georgia fans left early after a late kickoff TD return sealed the game for Tech….walking back to the marta station for the ‘train’ ride home, we found ourselves on the upper level with hundreds of georgia fans in red and black waiting for a train below…….we screamed out a few to hell with georgias and and sang a poor rendition of the fight song…….total silence below……sweet……now if we can just start a winning streak…….
By a Real Look in the Mirror
November 27, 2008 1:40 PM | Link to this
In the interest of full disclosure, I’m one of the the biggest Dawg fans I know. I’ve read this blog and it seems a lot of you live in glass houses with a handful of stones. I went to the Tech/Virginia Tech game last year as a casual observer (my mother-in-law is a Hokie fan with an extra ticket) and saw some behavior that opened my eyes. Of course by then I know a lot of you had had enough of Gailey.
If any of this crap happens in Sanford Saturday to any of you Tech fans, please feel free to bring the culprit up to section 327 and I’ll set that Dawg straight. I’ve been to a lot of stadiums in the southeast and have had a lot of things happen to me, but I’ll be the first to say that SEC fans are some of the most passionate, hospitable fans in football. I expect the ACC is pretty much the same.
I think inside a home stadium a lot of drunk fans feel an overwhelming sense of security that makes them do some despicable things. That happens in Sanford, Bobby Dodd, Vaught-Hemingway, Death Valley (where fans are supposed to be the worst).
Just my two cents….
By macrotech
November 28, 2008 3:06 AM | Link to this
i travel a great deal, but remember fondly, sitting in an airport listening to games on the radio during tech’s last national championship season! there were so many close games that season and i recall feeling anxious every time i got to listen to the end of games! this season has been a blast, but i love the memory of calvin johnson pulling in ‘impossible’ receptions against clemson in the final minutes of the game for the come from behind win! SO MANY memories! looking forward to adding to these memories this game saturday when tech ends the streak! GO TECH!
By Pathetic
November 28, 2008 7:55 AM | Link to this
So instead of talking about the game, you use this piece of “journalism” to broadly trash all UGA fans? Are you really that pathetic? Is a football game, relax. So what if you have been owned by your in-state rival the last 4 decades. Get a life.
By Sautee Dawg
November 28, 2008 8:21 AM | Link to this
Chris Boggs
Are you owning up to the fact that you nor Reggie Ball could read the 4 on the down markers? I believe i would have left that out of my hate column.
By GKE
November 28, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this
The “good word”? EIGHT in a row! To HELL with Tech!
By GreenJacket
November 28, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this
I have been to 2 GT games at UGA, 90 and 2000, both victories. After the 2000 win I pretty much decided that I have been to enough games at Sanford. I can’t stand all the barking !!
By Dan
November 28, 2008 6:12 PM | Link to this
UGA fans are the worst losers on the planet. They act as if a lost game is insignificant, never happened or trash your school. And I’m not just talking about Tech. I went to Georgia State where the Panthers beat the doggies 2 years in a row in basketball. Man, we still got garbage for winning: ” its your biggest game,you don’t have football, blah blah” Well, Georgia State will have football soon. I hope Tech wins BIG tomorrow. Just get out of Athens and don’t party there after the game. Right, John Dewberry?
By Braindawg
November 29, 2008 6:02 AM | Link to this
While i find all your comments somewhat commical. Its the state rivalry game, between the two biggest schools in the state. The fans arent suppose to like each other. The winning team will let the loser hear it from the time the final horn sounds til the next game. That whole year. And Yes both sides show their backsides when they win. By god thats what we play the game for, that bragging right, the knowleadge that we’re the champs of at least the state that year. So enjoy the game win, have fun and raise hell, lose keep your head up and know that next year could be your turn. And most of all, behave like a brother having to kiss his sister, its just “Clean Old Fashion Hate!” for goodness sakes!
By Pi$$onaDawg
November 29, 2008 7:58 AM | Link to this
braindawg what # are you? Do you O or D? I guess that is why we play the games. I can show class win or lose @ Notre Dame, Auburn, Va Tech, Clemson, and Miami, but the PIGS in Athens are a joke to visitors and it is not just Tech people thay say that. There are young Drunk A$$ jerks at every school, but in Athens it is even the Old should act and know better Drunks that are the worst.
By BB's
December 1, 2008 8:49 AM | Link to this
This was my second Tech-GA game in Sanford. Tech lost the other one, so I only received some good natured ribbing. Can’t take that, then stay home. I was not bothered again this year. Everyone was gracious. But my 71 year old dad and 23 year old drove separately from me, and were harrassed by one inebriated fan in a vicious way. She was called the B word, and the 30 something year old man was asking my dad if he wanted to fight. Isn’t that great? So sad. What a marvelous silence fell upon Sanford this past Saturday. The greatest quarter of Tech football I have witnessed in 43 years. I was 7 when I saw Bobby Dodd’s last team beat Tulane in 1966. I will bleed old gold and white until the day I die. Go Jackets. THWG