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Tech was motivated, but maybe Chan is cursed
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
I’m beginning to think that Chan Gailey is simply cursed when it comes to facing UGA. There’s no other reason to explain how a series coached by two devout Christian men ends up so lopsided. How else do all the breaks go one direction for six years running? It just doesn’t make any sense.
I mean…really…Tech wasn’t outcoached or out-athleted yesterday. I laugh when the local media tosses that explanation out for general public consumption. UGA didn’t play harder, they weren’t more motivated, they weren’t better coached, and they didn’t have better athletes that hit harder or ran faster.
They simply got all the breaks…again…while Tech left 20+ points lying out there on the field…because we couldn’t catch them or fall on them.
Consider…
A wide receiver with two steps on a burnt toast corner back drops a beautifully thrown deep ball that hits his hands…in stride.
Two fumbled kick returns bounce into the endzone…GT players are all over them…but they turn into UGA touchbacks.
A lateral is picked up and returned to the UGA goal line, where its fumbled into the endzone and touched by a UGA player on its way out of bounds…another UGA touchback.
If Tech catches that pass on the first possession, falls on just one of the fumbled kicks, and doesn’t fumble that lateral return…we’re looking at 21 points up on the board fairly early in the game. UGA is then forced to throw the ball while Tech is able to grind yards and clock with Tashard Choice. UGA never gets the chance to grind our defense down with Thomas Brown. Moreno remains the non-factor that he was for the first three quarters of the game.
What became a 14 point UGA victory could have easily been a Tech blow out…if we grab the points that were waiting to be seized.
In the end…I walked out of that game sad more than anything, because it became another chapter in a Tech vs UGA series that has seen the Jackets play hard and inspired…yet fall short because of some strange mistake, a late turnover, a missing referee whistle, or a weird bounce.
I wasn’t upset with Chan Gailey last night. The team played inspired. They were motivated and prepared. They just couldn’t get the free points that were bouncing around in the endzone three times last night. Chan can’t go out there and fall on a loose ball for them. The players have to make that happen.
But…I think this loss may shut the door on Chan Gailey’s tenure on the Flats. The losses at UVA and Maryland set the stage for this game…well earlier in the season. If the team had played as hard (for four quarters) in the early games, as they did last night, then we’d be sitting at 9-3 right now instead of 7-5. We’d be griping about bad luck against UGA more than we’d be talking about a return to the “mediocre” status quo of 7-5 and a west coast bowl game.
Chan…quite simply…burned up his margin for error in games we had no business losing…well before UGA came to town.
And it may cost him his job…




DEL.ICIO.US


Comments
By GT80
November 25, 2007 4:47 PM | Link to this
I think the saying is “luck is the residue of preparation and design”. So you can say Chan was just not lucky, but well coached teams make their own lucky breaks by being in the right place and making plays.
By helluvafan
November 25, 2007 4:47 PM | Link to this
The problem is simply that we’re not man enough to beat the dogs. We looked like they looked when they were losing to Florida all those years; dumb drops, bad breaks and a scared look in our eyes. That is what has come to define us in this series. The fact that Ugag didnt even bring their A game and still beat us at home makes this one even harder. Im sick of hearing all the same crap every year, “well if we’d have only gotten this bounce…” or “if only that call had gone our way” DOESNT THIS FEEL FAMILIAR?? Nope, lets not over analize this one, its simple…we are not man enough. We werent man enough to overcome some questionable calls, werent man enough to play them for 60 minutes. yeah we stopped that kid moreno, then we let brown get loose. We need to stop whining and admit one thing, we simply havent been a good enough ball club to suceed in this rivalry the past 7 years. Bad breaks happen to all teams, what makes a team great is the ability to overcome those bad breaks. The mutts have demonstrated the ability to overcome, all we’ve done is demonstrate the fact that we dont play on the same level as they do. Is this our coach? Our players? I dont know but something has to change.
And for godsakes, for those of you who taunted the mutts with rocky top afterwards you make us look even more pathetic then we did on the field. DO YOU HAVE ANY PRIDE AT ALL?? All you do is give the mutts more ammunition!! Know what else chaps me??? OUR HOuSe was a sea of red yesterday, isnt there anything we can do about that? Is it not bad enough to get beat by a team that is playing their C game, but to have your home stadium filled with more of their fans than our own? FOR THE LOVE OF GOD WHY OH WHY DOES THIS HAPPEN EVERY YEAR!!
By Head Coach Chan Gailey
November 25, 2007 5:03 PM | Link to this
Now I can tell some of you Tech folks are upset with me. Just let me remind you that I am a nice man. I also have 4 years left on a contract that will cost you $4 million to buy out. I do not know what all this fussing about won-lost records is all about anyway. Someone I once knew and loved said “It’s just a game, dog.” I think we should all think about that. If you get upset about a tech loss, then concentrate on your SAT score. If the team has a bad day, think about the amount of money you THINK you will make when you graduate. Of course it won’t be as much as me. As for hiring another coach, I cannot for the life of me think of anyone who realistically would take this job. Tech is a trash heap.
By Wrecker1
November 25, 2007 5:03 PM | Link to this
Chris you are exactly right on all points. TECH played as hard as they can play. I have never ever seen a team as lucky as the pups. Make no mistake, they won b/c they made plays when they needed to and we didn’t but my gosh two punts that look like total disaster for them actually end up giving them better field position than if Ugag had just muffed them and then fell on the ball. What could have turned out to be our 2 biggest plays, the dropped pass for easy TD and Burnett’s fumble, we failed to finish the play and that’s on us. One other point on the game though - that idiot inteference call before the half was a killer. It was 3rd down at the 24. If the ref calls offensive inteference (15 yards, loss of down) or no call Ugag gets maybe 3 and TECH goes in with the lead. Of course we can’t let a team drive the field in a minute. You’re also right about the weight of the 2 earlier losses just magnifying this loss. I think most TECH people were expecting better than 9-3 but we could live with losing to 3 teams that might all end up in the top 10. Personally I don’t understand how a true competitor can’t show up to play every week but it’s the head coach’s job to ensure that doesn’t happen often and it’s definately happened too often on Gailey’s watch.
By Santa
November 25, 2007 5:10 PM | Link to this
If if’s & but’s were candy & nut’s, we would all have a Merry Christmas. Santa doesn’t believe in what might have been.
By spike
November 25, 2007 5:15 PM | Link to this
Chan is not cursed. Tech is.
By Cry Baby Tech Fan
November 25, 2007 5:22 PM | Link to this
Right on Boggs. It is irrelevant that Georgia outgained us 432 yards to 315, lit us up for 218 yards rushing, and made clutch plays when it mattered most. They were just lucky. Lucky to win 7 in a row against us. Lucky to be 10-2. Lucky to be BCS bound for the 3rd time in 6 seasons. Lucky, lucky, lucky.
If only we were good enough to win games without relying on botched punts and fumbles in the end zone, maybe we could beat Georgia.
By DawgGrad311
November 25, 2007 5:23 PM | Link to this
Mr Boggs,
Time to take off the gold lens glasses and man up to the loss. Helluvafan, thank you for being man enough. Tech left it all out on the field, and I commend them for that. Choice had a hell of a ball game, and your D as a whole, did a good job stopping Moreno. The ball did bounce our way many a time, literally. But the game was not decided by a field goal, it ws 2 TD’s. So bad breaks cannot cover such a margin of loss. You will argue, well if this happened, or if they would have called this…this is the reality of football. How do you overcome adversity, how do you make the ball bounce your way in a metaphorical/literal sense? On the ball that Moreno fumbled, he could have easily watched Tech take into the endzone, but he didn’t give up on it, he went after the player and the ball, it benefited UGA, same with the Henderson drop..go after the ball. This is all about coaching players what to do in these situations. We had a similar call against Auburn (AU benefited), but the ruling is what it is. When we lost to UF when Shockley was hurt, we all knew we should have won if Shockley wasn’t injured, but he was, so we accepted losing (wasn’t easy). You are once again overlooking reality. We have too many weapons. Your D stopped Moreno very well, but it seemed you overlooked another great back Brown, who outshined Choice. Stafford made the big plays when needed (TD rush, pass to Bailey), and the D held GT to 3 points in the second half. I had a hunch that it would be close at the half, but the depth of UGA would prevail and ultimately win it. The Dawgs knew what they were playing for (BCS bowl game essentially), and they finished the drill. Tech was tired of losing, and I think Gailey knew he was on the hot seat, but they couldn’t match UGA. But a hell of a fight they gave us. A winning program knows how to overcome adversity, and bad breaks…it’s how you respond to them, and do you capitalize on the other team’s mistakes. Bennett is not a good QB, and you need balance to win. I don’t want to belittle Tech’s team, but please don’t diminish what UGA has acclomplished this season. Richt will outcoach Gailey any day, and his record proves it.
Well enough ranting,
Good luck at Nut Bowl
By DawgGrad311
November 25, 2007 5:33 PM | Link to this
Mr Boggs,
Time to take off the gold lens glasses and man up to the loss. Helluvafan, thank you for being man enough. Tech left it all out on the field, and I commend them for that. Choice had a hell of a ball game, and your D as a whole, did a good job stopping Moreno. The ball did bounce our way many a time, literally. But the game was not decided by a field goal, it ws 2 TD’s. So bad breaks cannot cover such a margin of loss. You will argue, well if this happened, or if they would have called this…this is the reality of football. How do you overcome adversity, how do you make the ball bounce your way in a metaphorical/literal sense? On the ball that Moreno fumbled, he could have easily watched Tech take into the endzone, but he didn’t give up on it, he went after the player and the ball, it benefited UGA, same with the Henderson drop..go after the ball. This is all about coaching players what to do in these situations. We had a similar call against Auburn (AU benefited), but the ruling is what it is. When we lost to UF when Shockley was hurt, we all knew we should have won if Shockley wasn’t injured, but he was, so we accepted losing (wasn’t easy). You are once again overlooking reality. We have too many weapons. Your D stopped Moreno very well, but it seemed you overlooked another great back Brown, who outshined Choice. Stafford made the big plays when needed (TD rush, pass to Bailey), and the D held GT to 3 points in the second half. I had a hunch that it would be close at the half, but the depth of UGA would prevail and ultimately win it. The Dawgs knew what they were playing for (BCS bowl game essentially), and they finished the drill. Tech was tired of losing, and I think Gailey knew he was on the hot seat, but they couldn’t match UGA. But a hell of a fight they gave us. A winning program knows how to overcome adversity, and bad breaks…it’s how you respond to them, and do you capitalize on the other team’s mistakes. Bennett is not a good QB, and you need balance to win. I don’t want to belittle Tech’s team, but please don’t diminish what UGA has acclomplished this season. Richt will outcoach Gailey any day, and his record proves it.
Well enough ranting,
Good luck at Nut Bowl
By jabster
November 25, 2007 5:34 PM | Link to this
—BC (and VT) beat us because they were good. UVA and Maryland beat us because we were sorry. UGA beat us because they were lucky. UGA looked like crap—if they had brought their A game, it would have been a blowout. Props to them, but luck was the better part of their win than really good play.
—Chan has used up all of his “get out of jail free” cards. He burned one two years ago against UGA, two last year against UGA and Wake, and then three this year against UVA, Maryland, and UGA. At best, even if he could morph into Vince Lombardi next year, he’s still “damaged goods” among alumni with $$$ and recruits.
—We still need a decent QB AND a QB coach, if nothing else. That needs to be #1 priority.
—Yes, Georgia was lucky. You could also say that they were better prepared to take advantage of lucky breaks. The job of that kind of preparation would be whose…?
—As far as the poor GT vs. UGA turnout at the game, NOTHING WILL CHANGE UNTIL THIS GAME IS MOVED OFF OF THANKSGIVING WEEKEND. Period. Full stop. Students go home, alumni go home (“home” not being in the Peach State), and give away their tickets. We need to do whatever it takes to move this game up a week, at least. That said, GT’s “12th man”, for what it was, was up for the game and the usual ATL exodus (see Falcons, Braves, etc.) at the end was bipartisan.
By The Truth
November 25, 2007 5:35 PM | Link to this
Helluvafan,
There was absolutely not more UGA fans than Tech fans at the game yesterday, not even close. Why do Tech fans say this? There were at least 2-1 Tech fans to UGA fans, the fans were not the problem! Chris is exactly right, we were unlucky. I didn’t see better athletes on Georgia’s team, or better coaching, but we still lose by two touchdowns! I believe Tech has reached it’s ceiling under the current head coach. We will lose 5 games every year, no more, no less. If that’s ok with you then Chan’s your man.
By NASCARfan
November 25, 2007 5:40 PM | Link to this
Chris Boggs, you are an IDIOT.
You don’t have better athletes. You don’t have better coaching.
What you do have, only when you play us (because your 7-5 record shows an extreme lack of heart in those 4 other losses), is a lot of heart. But that heart hasn’t been enough to overcome the better athletes and coaching we have.
All of you Bugs are so full of excuse making about luck and bounces and whatever other kind of BS you can think of instead of just admitting that we’re better than you, even when we don’t bring our A-game.
And Boggs, here’s a quote about luck I suggest you take to heart.
“I’m a firm believer in luck. And the harder I work, the more of it I seem to have.”
— Thomas Jefferson
So stop whining Boggs. The Dawgs have had better “luck” simply because we have better athletes, we have better coaching, and because we work harder.
THAT’S why the bounces always seem to go our way. Thomas Jefferson says so.
Then again, knowing how little emphasis Bugland puts on a well-rounded, liberal arts education, I wouldn’t you expect to recognize that quote from Jefferson.
By noel malone
November 25, 2007 5:42 PM | Link to this
are you kidding? Tech is out-recruited, out-coached, and out-played when they play UGA. Breaks? Just a lot of “ifs” They have a talented QB who can actually hit targets instead of overthrowing a mile or throwing 10 story arching passes. No competitive QB would come to Tech. I suggest we drop football and concentrate on graduating the best engineers on the planet!!! It doesn’t matter whether OL MAN CHAN stays or goes. We will luck up occasionally and win 8 games, but basically we are looking at six and seven win seasons for as far as the eye can see. We can’t even fill the stadium for the TECH-GEORGIA game, for heaven’s sake! I’m old and bitter, and may never watch another Tech football game. What a travesty Bennett is!! And we were so encouraged by the 2007 bowl game.. Most of the time he looks like a scared six year old.
Where can I go to surrender?!?
By Goodbye Noel
November 25, 2007 5:57 PM | Link to this
The reason we don’t fill up our stadium is because fans like you Noel who whine and complain. You’re telling me a program with 4 national titles, 11 winning seasons in a row, top 25 recruiting classes, and located in a football crazy state should drop it’s football program? I really feel sorry for you oldtimer. This isn’t the fifties, there is parity in college football. Sometimes I feel like Tech fans like you would rather be like Duke or Baylor or something just so you can have more stuff to complain about. UGA is on it’s best streak in history, it won’t last forever. Things will come back around. I’m 25 and I have seen Tech win a National Championship, I have never seen Georgia win one. They also have 2 conference championships in my lifetime, the same as Tech. Relax.
By Reggie Ball
November 25, 2007 6:02 PM | Link to this
Man, you were better with me. If I had just had one more year. I have now learned to count to fore, I mean four. Them Dogs just lucky, we been better for years. That bad, Voo Doo Luck has knocked us down. Man, those georgia folks have got a lot of Buzz Dolls stuck full of pins, spells, bad luck Voo Doo Dust, all that Voo Doo stuff. All that bad stuff will get you beat. Laugh if you want to, but them Voo Doos done the same think to Notre Dame. they ain’t laughing after I told them folks what happened to them. Charlie is hiring him a Voo Doooligist for next yr. Them folks liable to end up #1 with that Voo Doo luck & they can thanks old Reggie.
By Obnoxious Georgia Fan
November 25, 2007 6:03 PM | Link to this
A guy who lost his starting job to a freshmen out-rushes Georgia Tech’s lord and savior, Tashard Choice, and the bugs claim Georgia doesn’t have the better players. Simply hilarious.
Have fun in the blue turf bowl with all those great players bugs. Too bad I’ll be washing my hair or I’d watch it. Maybe you’ll get a couple of lucky breaks and beat Nevada or something.
By Matthew
November 25, 2007 6:05 PM | Link to this
Woulda, Shoulda, Coulda… the Tech saga continues…
By JAMES STEWART
November 25, 2007 6:06 PM | Link to this
north ave. trade school played 4 teams with a winning record and 7 with a 26 wins and 56 defeats and you wonder why they cant beat Georgia. ajc brags about them when they play duke and army type of teams and write how great they are. you dont improve playing sorry teams.
By Ed
November 25, 2007 6:10 PM | Link to this
Time for a little philosopy, and perspective:
Tech once beat Georgia 8 years in a row. Tech beat Georgia 3 years in a row from ‘98-‘00. Georgia beat Florida 8 out of 10 times in the 1980s, and 10 out of 12 altogether from ‘78 to ‘89. Florida has won 15 out of the last 18.
Notre Dame beat USC 11 times in a row from ‘83 to ‘93 (USC is now on a 6-game winning streak in the series). Alabama use to own Auburn, but Auburn has a 6 game streak going after last night.
Lloyd Carr has a national title, but a much more accomplished Michigan coach, Bo Schembecler, has none. Former Ohio State coach John Cooper was 2-10-1 against Michigan, including many season ruining, gut-wrenching losses. Cooper had plenty of success against everyone else. Current OSU coach Jim Tressel is 6-1 against Michigan, convincing Carr to “retire” last week.
Bobby Bowden’s FSU teams struggled to beat Florida before Steve Spurrier arrived. FSU beat Florida more often than not when Steve Spurrier coached there. Spurrier left, and Bowden can’t seem to beat Florida any more. In the meantime, Spurrier is still struggling with Bowdens, having just lost for the second time in three games against Tommy.
Such is college football, and life. Every dog has his day, no pun intended. Trying to make sense of it will only make you crazy.
By BC
November 25, 2007 6:15 PM | Link to this
UGA is a better team but they are filled w/ better athletes. Richt can coach but he isn’t god and he isn’t that much better. Switch coaches and keep the teams as is and see who wins more. Gailey is conservative but w/ the talent that UGA has, he’ll still win 9 or 10. GT is starting to wise up and recruit in the state of Georgia and Florida and is getting better athletes but we aren’t quite there….yet. A new coach and couple more years of good recruits and we’ll be in good shape. GT is very competitive and should have won that game. While I’m still wounded, I’m still optimistic that this streak will end soon. Hell freezes over every now and then…doesn’t it??
By Naive
November 25, 2007 6:17 PM | Link to this
Pardon me, but wouldn’t they have been “lucky” breaks if you capitalized on TWO muffed punts leading to touchdowns? Would that not have been so lucky? Would Bill King be whining on the UGA fan blog about how Tech was so lucky? I’m not here to rub it in, because I’m sure seven in a row hurts bad enough. But don’t start whining about luck. That’s football buddy.
By hr
November 25, 2007 6:23 PM | Link to this
BC, good point about switching Coaches. But, after CMR’s players were gone, you would be in the same boat. CMR would be recruiting well at Tech & the GA program would be down the tubes. But, do you really believe that Gailey is a better Coach than CMR. I don’t.
By WTH
November 25, 2007 6:39 PM | Link to this
I hate to say it, but I’ve gotta agree with the UGA fans who are saying “Quit whining about UGA being lucky.” UGA made its own luck on Saturday. They beat us fair and square. Claiming otherwise just makes Tech look pathetic.
UGA has better athletes than Tech most years, but that doesn’t mean they can’t be beaten. The differences in Division 1-A teams aren’t that great nowadays, thanks to the NCAA. But if a weaker team is going to beat a stronger team, it takes preparation, motivation, and discipline, and it all begins with the head coach. The simple fact is that Chan Gailey isn’t fit to shine Mark Richt’s shoes, much less outcoach him. You could have given Gailey the UGA team and given Richt the Tech team yesterday, and Richt would still have beaten Gailey like a drum.
Chan Gailey’s tenure, combined with the GTAA’s abysmal treatment of the Tech fanbase, has been a cancer at the heart of Tech football. The sea of red at yesterday’s game, blatantly obvious to everyone watching the game on TV, made BDS look like Sanford Stadium 2. It’ll be matched by the sea of red ink at the GTAA as even more Tech fans bail over the next year, unless changes are made soon.
By Charlotte Jacket
November 25, 2007 6:48 PM | Link to this
No bowl committee would award a bid to Tech based on last night’s fan support.
The fat cats at the 50 yard line left way too early, and the rest of the stadium was sickeningly red and black.
If we bring as many people to the Nut Bowl as we did to the ACC Championship game last year, we’re going to be sitting at home in December for years to come.
By Charlotte Jacket
November 25, 2007 7:30 PM | Link to this
Liberal education or not, NASCARFan, any monkey with a keyboard can search for “luck” and find that. How about this:
“Shallow men believe in luck. Strong men believe in cause and effect.” Ralph Waldo Emerson
and
“Winning is nice if you don’t lose your integrity in the process.” Arnold Horshak
3rd and 24. UGA trailing at halftime would jeopardize $13MM in BCS payments to the SEC. UGA receiver mugs Tech CB. SEC offical flag drops. First and goal. Momentum changed. Mission accomplished.
Bad bounces are bad bounces, and we dropped plenty of other opportunities to be in this game until the final gun. But pulling the quote machine out is just comical. So, for you, NASCARFan, here’s one close your heart:
**“You win some, lose some, and WRECK some.” Dale Earnhardt
1/9/08: Get ready, Jackets!
By Rational
November 25, 2007 7:34 PM | Link to this
It is amusing to read some of the emotional and just plain ignorant remarks that mindless, rabid fans feel the need to post, so as to demonstrate for all the world to see, the intellectual dexterity of their particular school’s supporters. With regard to the Tech/Ga game, there is no doubt that a series of bizarre, freakish plays which all went to UGA’s favor dictated the outcome of the game. No less an expert than Mark Richt, in his post game comments even said so himself. There were more of these freakish plays this year than in the previous 3 years, but it is uncanny and improbable how fate has favored UGA for 4 years running, which seems unfair and maddening to the Tech faithful. So does firing Chan change the fickle finger of fate? Or maybe adding a witch doctor to the staff would be the answer. No matter what the outcome, for reasons convincingly illustrated by the content of several of the UGA posts, it is a given that year in and year out UGA will have better overall talent because recruiting academically qualified great athletes is far more difficult for Tech. However,as a former football player, I don’t accept the premise that superior talent guarantees a win.
By Ben
November 25, 2007 7:42 PM | Link to this
I don’t understand how you drop two punts inside the 10 yard line and get rewarded. The rules of football are messed up. If the rules were fair, you drop a punt and fall on it in the end zone, at the very least you get the ball on the 1, not the 20. For goodness sake, they were calling for fair catches. I don’t understand why anyone ever catches a punt inside the 20 when they can just drop it and get a touchback. But those are the rules, and we have to play by them.
The interference call was BS, but Tech squandered several chances to score. The better team won, even though they had to have some luck, bad calls, and bad rules to do it.
By NASCARfan
November 25, 2007 7:49 PM | Link to this
Tech Fans = Waaaaah!!! Waaaaah!!! Bud luck!!! Bad bounces!!! Bad breaks!!! Bad officiating!!! Waaaaah!!! Waaaaah!!!
Shut the EFF up you whining losers!
Once again, you make your own luck through hard work and skill.
That’s what Thomas Jefferson was saying, Charlotte Jacket, you moron. Again, your lack of a well-rounded liberal arts education comes shining through because you can’t even correctly interpret Jefferson’s wry sense of humor and use of irony.
You work hard enough, and you don’t have to rely on luck, because your preperation “makes” luck for you.
As far as bad officiating, sometimes you have to overcome bad officiating. We did in the Auburn game. The officials were horrible in that game, and we overcame them because we were better than Auburn.
God dang, y’all… you’re a bunch of whining little babies, and your fan blogger, Chris Boggs, is a perfect example of your fan base being full of whiney losers like him who complain about everything without being man enough to admit that the team you follow is no better than 5 losses every year with the ability to beat us maybe 1 year out of every 10.
Get over it. Your team and your athletic department as a whole sucks. You’re in massive debt. Your fanbase (see: Chris Boggs) are a bunch of apathetic, pathetic whiners. And this isn’t the 1940’s or 1950’s anymore. If it were, Harvard and Yale would still be relevent in college football. They aren’t, and neither is Georgia Tech.
That’s the way it is. Just be happy you’re not Duke. You are who you are. You’re a third-tier bowl, 5 loss team. If you can’t deal with that reality belonging to the team you care for (or sometimes cheer for going by all the empty seats and red-clad fans at the game yesterday), then maybe you need to find something or someone else to cheer for.
By yellowblood
November 25, 2007 7:54 PM | Link to this
I just wanted to commend the Lamda Chis. They went ahead and held their Tickle Pile when the big Tickle Pile at Yellow Jacket Park was cancelled.
By stings to lose
November 25, 2007 8:01 PM | Link to this
I’m not sure about being “cursed”, but I do think he is cussed.
ps Some sine waves have a very long period of oscillation. (the period may be even years! LOL!)
By Charlotte Jacket
November 25, 2007 8:17 PM | Link to this
OK, NASCARFan: I’ll slow down for you.
No one questioned your brilliance in selecting this quote from Thomas Jefferson. Read my comment slowly (if you have the ability to read it any other way). It says that any trained monkey can find a quote on the internet with or without your vaunted liberal education.
Did your liberal education include being able to spell preperation (sic) and use “shut the EFF up” properly? Are you one of the Rhodes Scholars we see mentioned on here with herd-mentality regularity? I haven’t followed the development of liberal education since I completed grad school, but I’d be shocked to find out that “shut the EFF up” is part of the curriculum now.
Again, you may want to slow down when you read (and type slower when you post), but I said bad bounces are bad bounces, but WE failed when it counted last night.
It’s all there in black and white. Maybe you can get a refund on your liberal education, or take some time between now and Daytona to polish up your “shut the EFF up” delivery. I’m sure it takes a lot of work.
By Bryan Carver '97 Dawg
November 25, 2007 8:21 PM | Link to this
I guess we could trade the 98 Sanks fumble (called by an SEC crew) or the 99 Hamilton call (by an ACC crew) if you would like? Calls go both ways, from year to year. I won’t call out Tech fans for whining about officiating. Lord knows, we UGA fans still whine about the 98 game in particular. And I would rather win any game straight up than have such weird bounces and calls that could’ve gone either way that give the opposition ammunition to argue about why they lost. Sure there were points for Tech left on the field in the first half, but UGA left some as well. We had dropped interceptions or receivers that were behind the Tech defenders and Stafford threw a poor ball. But bottom line - even by the second muffed punt in the 3rd quarter, Tech was still in the game. They had nearly the entire second half to win the game. The difference is that UGA simply made more plays and pulled away. Don’t worry Tech fans, it’ll swing back your way soon enough. Tech has a good enough program and it’s still going to be a close game every year.
By old Tech fan (in NC)
November 25, 2007 8:30 PM | Link to this
Ol nasdog made me feel so bad I think I’ll just go fishing. After all, there is no substitute for time on the water!
ps, what is a uga student doing on a blog on a Sunday PM….no skirts in Athens tonight?
By NASCARfan
November 25, 2007 8:41 PM | Link to this
Plenty of skirts… have three papers to write. One due this week. Two due next week.
By Dawgbyte
November 25, 2007 8:56 PM | Link to this
Let me take a turn for NASCARfan. Nerds, you lost. Spin it anyway you want. You lost. Period.
By NASCARfan
November 25, 2007 9:10 PM | Link to this
Well said, Dawgbyte.
Don’t you love how the Bugs like to go on Bill’s Blog and accuse him of being too much of a UGA homer (when that’s his job), and then they follow this guy Bogg’s lead in whining and making excuses for his team losing yet again?
Man, the Eagles are making things interesting against NE tonight. I don’t think they can keep the pace up, but they’re a much better team without McNabb than with because they use Westbrooke more. But who wants to bet that when Philly cuts the overrated McNabb loose (because he’s becoming what McNair is now, old and broken-down), Terence Moore will write at least a dozen stories of how the Falcons should sign his old butt? I mean, because it worked so well in Baltimore with the old and broken-down McNair.
By WHAT...the dogs won???
November 25, 2007 9:13 PM | Link to this
Do dogs not believe in luck? Why, Robert C. Tilden wrote a book about “I’d rather be lucky than good”.
ps, we know you won. You lucky dog! LOL!
By jabster
November 25, 2007 9:23 PM | Link to this
NascarFan wrote:
“have three papers to write. One due this week. Two due next week.”
And all night to write on this silly-@$$ blog!
When you say “Budweiser”, you’ve said it all!
Speaking of Budweiser, why does the Turncoat Marching Band (“turncoat” because they don’t play “Dixie” anymore) always feel compelled to try to overplay the Tech band on the Budweiser song? Don’t UGA fans like the King of Beers too? Can’t we at least agree on THAT?
(Furman Bisher, please stay out of this.)
But I digress. Back to your post (no papers to write for me, although you can cite me as a reference):
“…your fan base being full of whiney losers like him who complain about everything without being man enough to admit that the team you follow is no better than 5 losses every year…”
Not 10 years ago (in 1998-2000, guess you would have been in middle school), we went 10-2, 8-4, and 9-3, including sharing an ACC title with a top-10 Half @$$ U. We finished each season in the Top 25. And sent your coach packing.
“…with the ability to beat us maybe 1 year out of every 10.”
Actually, we have beaten UGA a minimum of 3 times each decade (look it up). We realize that this streak is in jeopardy and want immediate action to prevent it going by the wayside.
“Get over it. Your team and your athletic department as a whole sucks.”
Got over it about 9 PM yesterday. And you’re a poopyhead. Whatever.
“Your fanbase (see: Chris Boggs) are a bunch of apathetic, pathetic whiners.”
What is an apathetic whiner? “WAAAH! I DON’T CAAAARE!”? Sounds like an oxymoron to me.
“And this isn’t the 1940’s or 1950’s anymore. If it were, Harvard and Yale would still be relevent in college football. They aren’t, and neither is Georgia Tech.”
Ask Jim Donnan how relevant GT is. Ask Quitsy Carter how relevant GT is. Ask Mark Richt how relevant GT is. You grab a bulldog by the ‘nads, you have his undivided attention.
I’m sorry, the world didn’t begin when you entered high school.
By NASCARfan
November 25, 2007 9:33 PM | Link to this
Yeah, jabster… because one can’t do things like multi-task.
Right now, I’m writing a paper, watching the game, and responding to idiots like yourself.
Maybe they don’t show you how to multitask at Bugland.
By Chan Gailey's Designated Driver
November 25, 2007 9:33 PM | Link to this
Anybody who has a handle of “DawgBYTE” is a NERD!
“oh! oh! I’m not one of those Teck nerds! I play Strat-O-Matic, not Dungeons & Dragons! That’s sports, isn’t it?”
By multitask/multiplex
November 25, 2007 9:45 PM | Link to this
Yeah, we know.
By Charlotte Jacket
November 25, 2007 9:48 PM | Link to this
Well said, Dawgbyte. I assume that this gives the AJC permission to take down all of the “if we played UT and USC today…” comments from UGA fans for the last month. Leghumpers, you lost. Spin it anyway (sic) you want. You lost. Period. Sure, you’re going to the Rose Bowl, but if spin is spin, we don’t need to hear any more about UT backing into ATL next week.
Jabster, I think you’ve hit it on the head. 1980 is a long time ago for me, but 1990 is a long time ago for some of our dear readers. Ask Bama, Nebraska, UCLA, the U, FSU, and Arkansas how quickly fate can change in college football.
This Boggs character does not represent the Jacket fans. He doesn’t even go to the games. Even without a “shut the EFF up” liberal education, I could write this blog better than he could, but The Red & Black (National Edition) wouldn’t hire an actual Tech fan.
By Charlotte Jacket
November 25, 2007 10:10 PM | Link to this
Check this out. Looks like the football fan base in Metro Athens is content, but there is some strife in roundball. Maybe we could take some notes on how to be apathetic whiners from these comments. 1/9/08. Must win.
I would love to hang around and multitask with y’all, but my paying job requires more attention than a UGA paper. Regrettably, I’ll probably miss any more of your admonitions for me to “shut the EFF up”.
By GTmiata
November 25, 2007 10:51 PM | Link to this
What the hell does their religion have to do with it?
By GM
November 25, 2007 11:02 PM | Link to this
NASCARfan: enough said. How many teeth do you have, and why do you have a computer?
By NASCARfan
November 25, 2007 11:04 PM | Link to this
No, Charlotte Jacket… you can shut the eff up all night long.
Dude, it seems as if that’s the worst smack you can speak, obsessing over me using colorful language to tell you and your Jacket buddies to stop whining and be men, or in your case, nerds.
Then again, your football team doesn’t provide you with much material with which to talk trash, so I guess you find your particular motivation wherever you can.
By GM
November 25, 2007 11:09 PM | Link to this
A UGA blogger with NASCAR as a name. Doesn’t that say it all?
By GM
November 25, 2007 11:11 PM | Link to this
Tech was motivated, but Chan never was.
By Brantley Sims
November 25, 2007 11:31 PM | Link to this
IF, IF, IF…………and IF a frog had wings he wouldn’t bump his butt everytime he hopped.
By DawgHare
November 25, 2007 11:50 PM | Link to this
Bad Luck? A curse? Please. You’re smarter than that Chris. Don’t get me wrong, breaks in a game help, but that’s not why Georgia has won seven straight against you guys. It wasn’t luck that caused Moreno to chase the play from behind and poke the ball loose into the end zone preventing a sure touchdown. It wasn’t luck that caused that Tech WR to drop a sure touchdown pass on Tech’s second offensive play. Nor was it luck that caused Georgia to lose three straight to Tech from ‘98-2000. Yeah, some fans talk about the academically ineligible Tech players or Jasper Sank’s non-fumble, but the reality is Tech had as much if not more talent than Georgia those years. You guys had better players, were more motivated, and were better coached. And oh yeah, you guys also had a player who, in my humble opinion, was one of the greatest college quarterbacks I have ever seen in Joe Hamilton. (I’ve never had more respect for a hated rival than him. He was awesome.)
And speaking of quarterbacks, keep in mind Chris that in this seven-game-and-counting win streak by UGA, Tech has gone up against some pretty good quarterbacks for the Dawgs. Four games against the NCAA career wins leader in David Greene, one against SEC champ DJ Shockley, and now two and hopefully at least one more against Georgia with Stafford at quarterback.
Bad luck? Try suck it up.
By marcos
November 25, 2007 11:52 PM | Link to this
not cursed just no ability and understanding of the meaning of the game.
let him go….
By Charlotte Jacket
November 26, 2007 12:37 AM | Link to this
NASCARfan - Hope you got your homework done, dude.
And you can use whatever language you want. I’ve heard it all in 18 years of Tech-UGA and in eight years in the military. But you claimed to be the highly educated part of the conversation.
Be thou familiar, but by no means vulgar. William Shakespeare (1564 - 1616) Hamlet, Act 1, scene 3
Take the last word on this, NASCARfan. You’ve earned it by watching football, AUC-commenting, and doing your homework, all at the same time. I’m ready for my trash-talking lesson, dude!
Bryan Carver - nice post. Thanks for reminding us that this is clean, old-fashioned hate. I might even pull for OU this weekend now.
Next installment: 1/9/08
By BIGED
November 26, 2007 4:42 AM | Link to this
I agree, Georgia Tech is totally snake bit against Georgia. Your are also right the losses to Virginia and Maryland are unforgivable. Gaily doesn’t want his player playing on emotion, but a good athelete playing with passion is better than a good athelete with no emotion. They had none at Virginia and Maryland. This is where the fans quit.
Last year Gaily said, “I don’t care what the fans have to say. They are not going to tell me how to run my team.” I chose not to go to the home games this year because of this attitude. Well all us fans have but one thing to say now, “Bye”.
By WFC
November 26, 2007 7:37 AM | Link to this
Gotta give props to UGA for hanging in there and winning though only a moron would assert that they played their best.
The second play of the game changed the whole complexion of the game. Football is an emotional game and that TD would have been huge… “this year will be different.” Our guy didn’t make the play, pure and simple. Neither Gailey, Bennett nor “luck” was at fault.
UGA won ultimately because of more depth of talent in the 4th quarter. GT has good players, just not enough of them.
Gailey has no imagination and never will. He did have the Jackets playing hard.
Morgan Burnett is a stud and made a great play on UGA’s one serious error of the game… the backward pass. Potential game changer. He would not have fumbled had he been carrying the ball in the proper hand. That’s a high school fundamental.
UGA did get lucky on the touchback plays and only a fool would claim otherwise. Nevertheless, had Earls and Burnett made their plays, luck would not have mattered.
Gailey should continue being a class act and resign today with a reasonable buy out— $2 million.
By WFC
November 26, 2007 7:53 AM | Link to this
Couple of other points:
Congrats to Brown for basically matching Choice. That’s all the Dawgs needed.
Caution to Dawgs feeling “delusions of grandeur”: Stafford is OK but not David Greene. Moreno isn’t the reincarnation of Walker. GT’s scheme negated him as it did Spiller of Clemson.
By Rob
November 26, 2007 8:54 AM | Link to this
Chan Gailey is our “Joe Btfsplk”, the Lil Abner comic strip character. He is well meaning but a jinx who brings bad luck to all around him. A small black cloud follows him everywhere!
By son_sir
November 26, 2007 9:11 AM | Link to this
“You’re never as good as you think you are or as bad as you think you are”. I don’t know who’s quote that is, but it applies to both UGA and Tech. Tech played their hearts out Saturday. Many of you Dawgs fan know it, but would never admit it…you were in a helluva fight Saturday. You can talk about making your own luck by being good and so on, but it’s uncanny how many lucky breaks and poor calls that have gone UGA’s way in this series the past few years. Give UGA credit for taking advantage of them.
On to Chan Gailey… You could see the emotion in him Saturday. The problem is, where has that been the past 6 years ? It was a gallant effort to keep his job, but I’m afraid it was too little too late. And besides, a loss is a loss and the dreadful streak continues. I hate it for the man, but we’ve got to find a coach who knows how to inspire for EVERY game. Tech still has a lot more talent in the pool than most believe. Beating a dead horse with this one, but if you don’t have consistency at the QB position, then you are going into a fist fight with one hand tied behind your back. No disrespect to Bennett, but unless there is dramatic improvement in the off season, he shouldn’t be there next year.
Wishful thinking here, but I hope DRad is having some productive conversations with Paul Johnson and hope that we can afford him. He knows how to put points on the board and has done so regardless of where he has been. I think the flex bone look with Nesbitt under center would be hard to stop.
Just my two cents worth…..
By 82DAWG
November 26, 2007 9:35 AM | Link to this
Chris, I really had to laugh. You guys are getting so good at spinning your losses to UGA (I guess 7 years of practice makes perfect). Anyway, if Earls hadn’t dropped the pass, the whole dynamics of the game changes and those touchbacks would have never occured. C’mon, you should know all about quantum physics!
So, Earls dropped the pass. You know, he is not a star like Baily or Massaquoi. Earls was a three star recruit whose only other offers were from Tulane and Marshall. That is a good indicator of why he dropped the pass and UGA wouldn’t have - we have better players.
By Tville Dawg
November 26, 2007 9:50 AM | Link to this
Hellavafan-Good Post. Part of loving college football is recognizing reality. Losing is tough as we DAWGS know when TENN waxed us pretty good up in Knoxville.
Sucessful teams come from a good program and good coaching. Tech suffered this year from being one dimensional. You can’t just load the entire team on Choice’s back and expect that to be sufficient. Quarterback development is equally important, and when the QB is ineffective, all an opponent has to do is focus on stopping the run. GA identifies its main guy early on and suffers with him as he develops. Stafford took a while to get where he is, as did David Greene.
Tech is to be commended on having one of the toughest defenses in the nation. I thought we would do well because we outgunned a very good Auburn defense. Tech’s defense is better than Auburn’.
Special teams and lack of a passing offense did you in Saturday. Those are very correctable weaknesses.
Great, hard fought game.
By JA
November 26, 2007 10:20 AM | Link to this
I’m a life long Tech fan and 24 year season ticket holder. To blame Saturday’s loss on bad luck, bad calls, whatever is lame. U.Ga. put together an 80 yard TD drive off of one of the touchbacks and a 52 yard field goal drive. I didn’t see I big difference in the quality of players, I saw a huge difference in attitude, effort, and quality of play. U.Ga. got “lucky” because they were ready to take advantage of whatever opportunities came their way. That is coaching. Tech is unlucky because we expect to be.
Tech fans need to face it, Mark Richt is one of the 10 best coaches in college football today, Cahn Gailey is one of the 10 worst. Jon Tenuta is the most over rated assistant at any high level of football. Hoepfully by sundown, Gailey will be cashing his $4 million buyout.
By son_sir
November 26, 2007 10:26 AM | Link to this
82DAWG. For the record, I’ve seen your 5 star guys drop plenty over the past few years, including the two you mentioned. You must not have read all the Dawg posters b&tching about it the past few years. I’ll say, UGA’s receptions have improved this year, but putting a # of stars on a kid as a recruit hasn’t been a very accurate indicator for your recievers the past few years.
By NYJACKET
November 26, 2007 10:48 AM | Link to this
Shaky pass coverage.
Inconsistent passing offense.
These two items lost the game.
By 82DAWG
November 26, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this
*son_sir *
I was actually one of those who b*** about our receivers dropping passes. I guess with all your EE classes you slept through the English class that covered irony.
By Get a clue, nerds
November 26, 2007 11:00 AM | Link to this
The difference between you and us, Son_sir, is that your ilk has the gall to attribute your own team’s failures to luck. Georgia fans might say, “If we didn’t drop those passes…” but it’s always done to acknowledge the team’s shortcomings. You’re putting the blame on some mythical curse instead of acknowledging that your players just aren’t that good at football.
By reebok
November 26, 2007 11:38 AM | Link to this
As a Tech fan, let me say - PLEASE don’t blame it on luck or the referees. Georgia keeps beating us because they are better coached and they make their breaks. “What-if” scenarios are pathetic. Tech needs a coach that can convince our players EVERY GAME that they are GOING TO WIN, and that losing is SIMPLY NOT POSSIBLE. Confidence plus preparation equals “getting all the breaks.”
By michaelgee
November 26, 2007 11:58 AM | Link to this
Gailey, 55, was also the only coach who has had nothing but winning seasons at Tech, and he was only the second Tech coach to win seven or more games in six consecutive seasons. (Bobby Dodd did it from 1951-56.) GT just screwed up, next year there will be no bowl. GT needed to look at Administration and support Chan vs firing him. The Administration hired Chan, the administration gave him a long term contract. Now, let the Administration figure out how to beat UGA.
By History Buff
November 26, 2007 1:35 PM | Link to this
Thomas Jefferson did a lot of things on which I was not in agreement. You are right, Moreno is no Hershall, no one is. Stafford is no David Greene. More potential, but maybe not realized in College. I just want him to do enough to win. I tend to agree with the tongue in cheek post about Voo Doo Luck, by “Reggie Ball”. It makes just about as much sense as the termites crying about bad luck. Luck, comes and goes and it does win & lose games. Generally a team is not doing something correctly that affects it’s luck and the outcome of the Game.
By m
November 26, 2007 4:07 PM | Link to this
Chan is simply the worst coach in the history of the NCAA. THE WORST. Sure we should have beaten ugag….just like the last 3 years before this one. But we didn’t. And the main reason is that Chan is a lousy coach and lousy motivator. In his heart of hearts, he doesn’t really think that the ugag game was important. Thank GOD he got fired today. It is just a crying shame that he ever got hired in the first place.
By shambo
November 26, 2007 6:44 PM | Link to this
Mr. Boggs,
With apologies to the Munchkins of OZ:
“Ding Dong, the witch is dead, the wicked witch is dead !!!!” Gailey is fired.
Boggs is the only guy in BUZZland that did not get it. It is only right that Boggs goes away with his hero, Chan Gailey.
Is there any old White & Gold guy out there that can give us fans a realistic blog of Tech doings…not insult our intelligence … and not force us to sing “Cum Bah Yah” after each dissappointment?
Good by Mr Boggs…wouldn’t wanna be ya.
By The Big Bug
November 26, 2007 7:39 PM | Link to this
Michaelgee: I feel safe in saying Dodd didn’t go those 6 years without beating GA.I’ll put up even money without even knowing who the next coach will be the it won’t take 6 years to get another win over UGA.
By SAY WHAT?
November 26, 2007 7:52 PM | Link to this
You people make me laugh. Now Gailey is cursed? WTF? You people have more excuses than Carter has liver pills. Desperation fits you Geeks, Nerds and F@gs.
By James T. Howard
November 26, 2007 8:15 PM | Link to this
NASCARfan, you are obviously a dolt and appear to be completely obsessed with Georgia Tech. Otherwise, why would you spend so much time on Tech blogs? You spew both ignorance and abhorrence for a school that you know little about. Obviously something about Georgia Tech really makes you feel inferior and motivates you to post on an anonymous blog in a vain effort to improve your noticeably low self-esteem. Somehow you must feel that your petty, insignificant life is elevated in some way by trashing another school in difference to a school you probably never attended (most UGA alums have more class and more intelligence than you display). Undoubtedly you are not a top executive or a business professional with a significant job; otherwise you wouldn’t allow yourself to waste so much time on these blogs. And don’t say that you are so successful that you can waste your time on frivolous pursuits, because successful people never waste their time in such a manner.
Frankly, your arrogance and preconception of UGA’s eminence is only matched by your obvious contempt and fixation with Georgia Tech. You might want to seek professional assistance with your dysfunction.
It would really be nice to have an educated and informative discussion on these blogs, but mindless hatred and drivel from people like you dissuade that and also tarnish the reputation of the very school that you proclaim. You, sir, are a disgrace to UGA. I’m not saying that there are not Tech bloggers with equal acrimony, but I am calling you out for what you are. Have a comment? I don’t have a lot of time to waste replying to you because I do have important things to do. I have left my real name; I doubt you will have the honor or the guts to do the same.