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Why Chan hasn’t won more

Do you really want to judge Chan Gailey’s tenure at Georgia Tech knowing that Reggie Ball has been his quarterback 4 out of the 5 seasons?

Here’s an exercise: think of the best 5 or 10 teams in football — college or pro. Who’s their quarterback? I bet he’s pretty good. My list includes Troy Smith, Chris Leak, JaMarcus Russell, John David Booty, Peyton Manning, and Tom Brady. I’m sure you get my drift. The quarterback can make or break a team and a coach.

So you ask why didn’t Gailey play anyone else at QB — especially those last few games? I have the same question and I don’t think there’s an answer coming anytime soon. This is a disservice to the fans and I believe we deserve a good answer. After all, we’re the ones who paid to watch that nonsense.

The play of Reggie Ball contributed to Gailey’s biggest problem: he can’t beat UGA. Nobody likes to lose to a rival, much less five years in row. I thought the AJC poll question about choosing between beating UGA and winning the ACC was right on. Simply put, some Tech fans would trade conference titles, bowl wins, and rankings just to beat UGA. Chan would have more fans if he had a couple of wins against UGA.

I know Chan is an exceptional human being who genuinely cares about his players, his team, and his coaches. You hear the same rhetoric coming from players and coaches about how he has created a football family at Tech — an environment of respect, understanding, and trust. (You hear the same thing from recruits, so don’t undercut how important that is to a player).

If Chan stays, I’ll give him another chance. I want to move forward and forget about the Reggie Ball era. Let’s see what Gailey can do with a fresh quarterback, a solid offensive line, a seasoned running back, an experienced secondary, a favorable schedule, and one helluva recruiting class.

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By Jesse

January 17, 2007 12:34 AM | Link to this

Don’t care. Beat UGA and all things are better

By Michael

January 17, 2007 12:57 AM | Link to this

I have met Chan, he is a class guy. He knows the game of football and he knows his players and coaches. I think that he has built and outstanding program at Georgia Tech and it is improving with the recruits he has building upon in 2007. Only Chan can answer the question why he allowed Reggie to be the starting QB for four years. I think we have alot to look forward to in 2007 with the returning starters and new recruits. I wish you the best Chan Gailey in your decision for yourself and your family.

By Calvin21

January 17, 2007 1:07 AM | Link to this

Chan has held the Institute hostage during this process. He has proven that he is not the loyal, classy guy we all have thought he was. It is time for him to go! He does not want to be at Tech, so DRad should give him his walking papers. His inability to beat UGA, the upset losses, his lack of the private part necessary to bench Reggie and now this. Please Lord Please let him get the Dolphins job!!

By Dan Mayfield

January 17, 2007 6:52 AM | Link to this

We have more talent now than when Chan took over the job. Don’t understand the Reggie deal, but loyality is not worse thing in the world for a coach to have. What he needs to do now is stop the interviews or stay, he will lose what little fan base he has. May be to late!

By m

January 17, 2007 7:04 AM | Link to this

Chan Gailey is the worst coach I have ever seen in my life. He has underachieved every year since he has been at Tech. You Gailey suckups make me sick. He should be fired today.

By GeorgeBurdell

January 17, 2007 7:07 AM | Link to this

Chan has had some success at Georgia Tech in five years, but has not won the big games. The Georgia Tech fans are down on him. I think he will be an excellent coach in the professional ranks. He will make the playoffs every year. If Chan decides to go, a lot of his staff will go with him. The Athletic Director at Georgia Tech should be preparing for this eventuality. The ACC will be a lot tougher in 2007. Virgina Tech, North Carolina, Miami, North Carolina State and Florida State will be much stronger. Clemson and Wake Forest will not drop down. The next few days will determine the future of Georgia Tech football.

By 2D

January 17, 2007 7:14 AM | Link to this

m… If you think Chan Gailey is the worst football coach you’ve seen in your life, then you never watched a Tech team coached by Bill Lewis.

I’m as frustrated as most with the upset losses, the near misses against Georgia and second tier bowl games. But… I have to ask myself, is this program in better shape now than when he took over and the answer is a resounding YES!

Some folks win quick (i.e. Stoops, Tressel, Meyer) but they are at top five programs and already had top five talent. Others take time (i.e. Beamer, Ferentz, Scianno) and early on, those guys lost a lot. Now they have some of the most stable programs in the country.

Progress is the key, and Tech has made it. This team broke the nine win barrier, collected a top recruiting class and has potentially the highest number of NFL draft picks in quite some time, with a probably top five selection. If this isn’t progress, I’m not sure what is. The only thing missing is winning our fair share of games with Georgia. That will come.

By artc

January 17, 2007 7:16 AM | Link to this

If beating UGA is a benchmark at Tech, no coach will ever last or make the “faithful” happy. Historically Tech has had little success against UGA, and in the modern era it becomes less and less likely that Tech will ever chage that trend. Tech fans need to set realistic goals and expectations. Winning a division or ACC title is much more likely than beating UGA ever will be.

By Mike

January 17, 2007 7:22 AM | Link to this

The institute cut its own throat and bled itself out when it cut and ran from the SEC. That one act is why Tech is in the dysfunctional condition that it is today. The SEC is tougher and more attractive to the coaches and players that want to experience the best competition in the land. Tech will never consistently run with the big boys.

By Doug

January 17, 2007 7:24 AM | Link to this

Beating the trade school is never an upset gnats.

By GT81

January 17, 2007 7:27 AM | Link to this

That damn dog over in Athens is more well known in the world of college football than we are. Even George O’Leary had a losing record against UGA.

By Robert

January 17, 2007 7:33 AM | Link to this

“Cut and ran from the SEC?” The SEC may (or may not) be more attractive to coaches and players but I sure would prefer a better class of instituions from the academic point of view. Upon broadening the perspective to actually include “instituional quality” and national reputation, the SEC doesn’t do so well.

By moc

January 17, 2007 7:42 AM | Link to this

By Robert

January 17, 2007 07:33 AM | Link to this

“Cut and ran from the SEC?” The SEC may (or may not) be more attractive to coaches and players but I sure would prefer a better class of instituions from the academic point of view. Upon broadening the perspective to actually include “instituional quality” and national reputation, the SEC doesn’t do so well.

Here we go again. Your academics suck. You are on PROBATION for academic misconduct. You are the cespool of the ACC. Furthermore you don’t hold a candle academically to several of the other schools in the ACC with more diverse academic programs. Tech is no more than a glorified trade school. You puzzies need to quit making excuses for being the losers that you are.

By Lazybee

January 17, 2007 7:52 AM | Link to this

I would rather see Tech as the consistent contender for the academically oriented ACC title than to see it become another SEC football factory. If we get good enough to represent a real threat to VPI, Miami, Clemson, BC and Maryland or Virginia every year then the wins over UGAG will come at the appropriate times. But I do not think that Gailey is the answer. He may be a great NFL level coach but he has shown very little as a Division 1 head coach. In fact I would be distressed if Tech beat the dog feces out of UGAG every year because that would put us in the same class as the butt sniffers.

By GT81

January 17, 2007 8:03 AM | Link to this

Then why don’t we as fans just STFU and accept the fact that we are not ever going to be top tier in football? Why don’t we just accept it and not whine incessently about academics and scapegoat them for losing. Come out and say it “faithful”! We accept our place as second fiddle. That is much more flattering than crying about not beating UGA and then out of the other side of our mouths crying about academics. And while you’re at it “faithful.” Buy a few tickets and go to the games! Quit being losers! When you make excuses that is exactly what you are. It is what it is “faithful.”

By snellville

January 17, 2007 8:03 AM | Link to this

It is interesting the “Georgia Fan Base” can only comment about the probation. There is not a university or college which can with stand a NCAA investigation.

A big mistake was made in sticking with one QB, Taylor had shown what he could do with limited playing time.

An honest apology should be made that we screwed up in not playing him more. Evidenced the mid field passes with a QB which could see. I do not think you can blame Nix for the fact he had to call for sideline passes as Regiie was the head coaches choice to play.

When it comes down to it, there is oinly one came that really matters each year. To lose it each year is the root of the disatisfaction. At the very least he should have changed QB for a series or two. Relief pitchers in baseball is a prime example.

By BigEd

January 17, 2007 8:05 AM | Link to this

I like Chan Gailey as a person. I don’t respect his coaching ability. He has made some really dumb coaching decisions. Leaving Reggie Ball to run the team despite the fact that no one (especially his teamates)had any faith in his ability to get the job done was just plain stupid. Downing the ball against Georgia on fourth down with the clock running out to stop the clock. Punting in the forth quarter with two minutes on the clock and behind by three points. This is dumb football. Chan by interviewing for NFL jobs has sent a clear message that he wants to be elsewhere. Even if he doesn’t get selected by Miami (and I hope he is selected)he needs to go ASAP.

By moc

January 17, 2007 8:07 AM | Link to this

Based upon your sordid academic history of late, that excuse is null and void dumbazz! For 7 years you played how many academic ner do wells that had about 2 years progress toward a degree at the end of their eligibility? You gave up all right to your sanctimonious academic excuses with that scam you were running at the trade school! Can you spell PROBATION little girl?

By beachside bulldawg

January 17, 2007 8:11 AM | Link to this

Play the classic “academic” card. Face it people, Tech sucks. Every so often they have a good football team or basketball team. They even go to the college world series. Tech is not committed to excellence (productivity) on the field. I wish Tech and Georgia were undefeated every year when we beat them. I’d like to see Tech do better as the rivalry means way more to them than us. We will never win or lose an SEC championship based on that game! You never hear Vandy play the “academic” card. Vandy recruits and gets players who want the SEC and MBA, so quit whining on the flats about your academics and maybe you’ll be able to add seats to your stadium instead of removing them.

By Jim O

January 17, 2007 8:14 AM | Link to this

Taylor played a great game in Jax, but Pat Nix/Chan put together an even better offensive game plan.

I liked what I saw in TB in that game, but not what I saw in the Duke game. We had max protection for most of the game - you can get away with that once when the other team isn’t prepared for it, but not sure you can for an entire season.

Like most other Tech fans, I wasn’t a big reggie supporter the last two/three years, but I still have to admit that Chan knows a hell-u-va lot more about football than most of us bloggers. If he thought RB gave us the best chance to win over TB, then he is probably correct.

He has some excellent qb prospects coming in to judge against TB - and this fan doesn’t want to see another coaching change.

By moc

January 17, 2007 8:18 AM | Link to this

Well stated beachside bulldawg. You just stepped on their heads with a hobnailed boot. But they will keep crying woulda should coulda…if it weren’t for our academics we could kick some azz! LMAO!!

By Joshua Barlowe

January 17, 2007 8:33 AM | Link to this

Hey UGAG fans - have you checked your attendance at men’s basketball games this season? If you want to talk about shameful, let’s discuss that.

Let’s also discuss your ONE national championship to Tech’s FOUR.

By rambleR

January 17, 2007 8:35 AM | Link to this

The comment that the program is better off now than when Chan took over is not correct. At best we are equal now after several years of not being as good as the Seattle Bowl team.

Gailey took over a team that beat a number 12 Stanford team, using an interim coach. He just lost to a #12 team in a bowl. The win totals have been about the same.

He wallows in mediocrity and takes all of the fans into mediocrity with him. I hope he is gone by later on today, but will probably not be.

By GTA

January 17, 2007 8:43 AM | Link to this

I agree with you on this one, but think about it this way: The New Orleans’ Saints qb last season was Aaron Brooks. A player who was inaccurate, made stupid throws, made stupid decisions and worst of all, turned the ball over a lot. In comes Drew Brees and the Saints are in the NFC Cship, sure it’s not JUST the quarterback who is responsible, but he put up MVP numbers. Maybe TB will do the same judging by his performance at the Gator Bowl.

By smitty

January 17, 2007 8:54 AM | Link to this

2D, just where do all you tech fans that talk about progress with your man chan get your blinders, cause i need a pair to survive another year with chan……granted, this year was a slight improvement over last year, but the ACC was way down in quality; (we made the ACCCG, whoohoo) we got to play a couple of extra games (troy and samford come to mind) and we made it to nine wins, whoohoo, but it is apparent to nearly everyone that GT should have achieved so much more this season…..it’s coaching, plain and simple, and chan stinks at coaching the GAME of football…..how you can make a statement that the program is in better shape than when he took over is beyond me and so typical of the chan apologists…(unless of course, your starting point is after chan’s first year when he took us low enough that the only way left to go was up)….if you say it enough times, then it must be true…..how’s this for progress…..before chan came we ranked in the top 25 consistently and had our share of wins against GA….since, we’ve had record setting losses, no top 25 rankings, no wins against ga……progress?……

By INcredibility

January 17, 2007 9:25 AM | Link to this

Hey Beachside, you say “I’d like to see Tech do better as the rivalry means way more to them than us. We will never win or lose an SEC championship based on that game!” but yet, we were in the ACC championship, and in the end, the UGA game had no bearing on our season. And I’ll bet that this rivalry means more to you than it does to us when you lose the game. Come on. Give us a little credit. I know UGA fans aren’t the ignorant morons that most Tech fans think, and I know that Tech fans aren’t the blind whiners that most UGA fans think.

By Ron

January 17, 2007 9:29 AM | Link to this

PLEASE, GOD, let Gailey get another job! PLEASE. I bet ANYONE could do better than he did with the talent we had. ANY decent coach would have seen that Reggie was no QB. Most people with a 60 IQ can tell when a ship is sinking, but old Chan sits there, sipping his tea and acting like all is well when everyone else knows better. He is a blockhead. Bye, Chan.

By Ron

January 17, 2007 9:31 AM | Link to this

and one more thing: how can you possibly justify giving Chan a renewed contract two years ago? That was one of the stupidest decisions imaginable. Who let Dave Braine do this? Wasn’t there anyone overseeing the process? How about the President of the Institute? Doesn’t he care?

By Florida's impact on Georgia

January 17, 2007 9:41 AM | Link to this

From a Tech’s fan perspective, I think Georgia has had a great run the past 5 years.

Several things however are signaling tough time for Georgia:

  1. Florida’s N.C. and continued dominance over its border rival.

Florida has proven itself top dog in the SEC East. It’s going to hurt UGA’s recruiting.

  1. Increasing competition from South Carolina. Both on the field, and recruiting.

  2. Reggie Balls departure.

  3. Chan Gailey’s immenent departure

  4. Mark Richts departure in the next 2-3 years.

By INcredibility

January 17, 2007 9:42 AM | Link to this

Ron, I definitely agree with you, but I’m pretty sure Wayne G has more important things on his plate than the status of Chan’s contract. Such as improving our position as the #8 public university in the nation.

By tom johnson

January 17, 2007 9:44 AM | Link to this

KEEP CHAN GAILEY! Dr. Thomas Johnson UGA Class of 74

By reality check

January 17, 2007 9:49 AM | Link to this

Gailey had some misfortune early on with the academic fiascos and probation. The program hasn’t recovered yet. Tech is a relatively young team.

Also, 7 win seasons with an occasional 9 win season thrown in are perfectly satisfactory to Tech’s president.

I’m really weary of Tech’s “academic difficulty” BS. And that is what it is, a whiney, BS excuse. Tech is a good school and always has been. That wasn’t a problem for Bobby Dodd and Tech didn’t have the liberal arts college back then. Notre Dame, Michigan, and Southern Cal are all harder to get into than Tech and they have big time programs. The difference is their fans, alums, and administration all expect results. That isn’t true at Tech. Tech’s administration doesn’t care about football and nobody is holding them accountable.

By GT Fan Jeff

January 17, 2007 9:55 AM | Link to this

I have been a LOYAL GT fan for almost 50 years, so I can safely say I have seen the “good, the bad and the ugly” regarding our football program. I have always supported the HC, no matter who he was (yes, even Bill Lewis), and I have defended Gailey on many occasions since he arrived at GT. Believe me, that has not always been easy. However, the coaching (or lack there of) in four of the final five games of the 2006 season (even Chan and Reggie can beat Duke), and Chan’s current infatuation with the NFL again have exhausted even my ability to continue to provide support. The main concerns many people have with Gailey leaving is the possible negative impact on an outstanding recruiting class, and the normal “bumnps in the road” you have with any HC change. I realize these are both very real concerns and even likely to happen. On the other hand, every HC since Dodd (with the obvious exception of Bill Lewis) has had some success and gone to bowl games, and I am CONFIDENT that whoever replaces Chan will do so as well and will occasionally beat UGA. Chan is no longer the man at GT, and I am ready for this “journey” to end. Here’s hoping GT gets a break and the Dolphins hire Gailey.

By INcredibility

January 17, 2007 9:56 AM | Link to this

reality check, honestly, football is an afterthought to most Tech students and alumni. If we are good, terrific. If we aren’t, we don’t really care. We love our school for different reasons. And that’s A-OK by me. I’m not out there whining about not winning because I KNOW we can’t recruit like Southern Cal or Michigan, and I go to the games to have fun. Sure, it sucks to lose to UGA. But it’s not the end of my life. And I’m STILL proud of my school.

By reality check

January 17, 2007 10:03 AM | Link to this

INcredibility, thanks for the input. I believe you when you say Tech alums, students, faculty and administration don’t really care about the football team.

It is interesting you say you KNOW Tech can’t recruit like Notre Dame or Michigan. Why is that? And how do you explain this year Tech’s class is rated about like those two schools?

By 85Dawg

January 17, 2007 10:07 AM | Link to this

From a UGA grad as well as fan (and intelligent people know the difference):

INcredibility - well said re: fans of each school, and how the game “means less to us” as long as we’re on a winning streak. Very true.

GTA - To the point of the original article, Drew Brees had some help in New Orleans - a new coach who put together the pieces to give him the chance for success. Funny how everyone in these Tech threads is so quick to condemn Reggie Ball for his failures while seeming to blame Gailey only for continuing to play Ball. Maybe Ball would have had more success with a different coach…?

By jabster

January 17, 2007 10:07 AM | Link to this

Where do I start…

1) It will be interesting and educational to see Chan coach a Ball-less team. That will be the litmus test to the quality of his coaching.

2) If Tech is such a rotten school (and don’t go off on me “playing the academics card like a Tech geek”-you started it), ‘splain this from USNews:

—Tech is ranked NINTH IN THE NATION in public universities. —In the ACC, the only publics ahead of Tech are UVA (which may go private) and UNC, both much bigger and diverse schools. —In the top 50, the only SEC schools are Vandy (natch) and Florida. Gator bait in the classroom too, huh? —UGA is #60 and behind the following ACC schools: Duke, UNC, UVA, Wake, BC, GT, Miami, and Maryland. That’s 2/3 of the ACC. All but Miami and Maryland are in the top 50.

3) UNC, NCSU, BC, and Miami won’t be ready for prime time next year. It always takes a year or two at least to digest a coaching change. We won’t play FSU or Wake unless we make it to the ACCCG again. We will need to focus on Clemson and VT.

4) We can explain what got us in NCAA trouble (a registrar who was nearing retirement and mailing it in). Can you explain Harrick Jr.? What about Jan Kemp? Remember, you have to have standards to begin with in order to not meet them.

All of these UGA fans sound like Democrats tut-tutting the Republicans for their moral failings…which is ridiculous considering that the Dems don’t consider these acts to be moral failings to begin with.

By INcredibility

January 17, 2007 10:12 AM | Link to this

reality, I said Sothern Cal or Michigan, not Michigan or ND. And I am very excited about our recruits. I hope that we can contend nationally. BUT (and since you are indeed the “reality check,”) I don’t EXPECT us to be USC or Michigan. I’m not an idiot. We are in the south. We compete for recruits with the really strong southern football schools. I get that. And again, it’s not the end of the world. It’s football.

By m

January 17, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this

**Chan is apparently counting on the stupidity of Tech fans to blame Reggie for everything. Ask yourself his question….Who is responsible for starting Reggie 49 TIMES??? It is the worst coach in the history of college football….Chan Gailey. He should be fired today!!

By Tift Dawg

January 17, 2007 10:19 AM | Link to this

Robert- Let’s talk academics- Medical School, Pharmacy School, Vet School, Law School-None of which are part of your school. You lose!

By jabster

January 17, 2007 10:24 AM | Link to this

…and I will sit down and shut up when you show me five players from this year’s team who are majoring in pre-med, pharmacy (street pharmacy or Steroids 101 doesn’t count), pre-vet, or pre-law.

By techaholic

January 17, 2007 10:25 AM | Link to this

Chan Gailey is the HC at GT. It’s his responsibility to make the right decisions concerning his team from all aspects.

Respect for a coach comes with his leadership, decision making and overall management of the program. Coaches make mistakes but good ones CHANGE that which is wrong. Chan just downright REFUSED to even try a new QB!

Chan came to GT with that kind of mentality - he got fired by the Cowboys because of it.

Chan Gailey came to GT with a very average resume over more than 20 yrs of coaching. NOTHING he has done here has changed that resume … very average and definitely less than stellar.

The GTAA talked about Chan coming in and getting us to the NEXT LEVEL … BCS, that supposedly Coach O’Leary could not do. Who is kidding who here??? The only level Chan has got us to isn’t even as good as GOL, but it’s also steps backwards!

I’m praying that some team, any team wants Chan. His 5 year stay at GT was 4 years too long!

By reality check

January 17, 2007 10:29 AM | Link to this

INcredibility, there was a time Tech not only could but did compare favorably to Southern Cal, Michigan, and Notre Dame. In fact, Tech was one of the schools that proved academic and athletic excellence were not mutually exclusive. Tech has since abdicated that position.

Clearly the model is there. There is no reason Tech can’t have that kind of frequent top ten success again except, as you say, the students and administration really don’t care. I can’t understand why anybody would support a clear embrace of mediocrity.

By INcredibility

January 17, 2007 10:39 AM | Link to this

reality,

It’s not a “clear embrace of mediocrity.” It’s a clear understanding of the fact that, yes, we compete in D-1 athletics, and we compete well in my opinion. But that’s not the reason I went to Tech, and I’m pretty sure it’s not the reason 99% of the students and alumni went to Tech. Just as MOST students don’t go to ND or USC or Michigan for football. There will be a time when we are again a top team, but I’m not sitting on the edge of my seat chewing my nails over when that will be.

By george p burdell

January 17, 2007 10:48 AM | Link to this

Chan, The only think worse than being a quitter (like Bill Curry) is threatening to be a quitter. Take off. Adios. Vamoose. You want to get an NFL job, take off. We don’t need you and don’t want you. Cannot make ends meet on ony a $million a year? If you stay at Tech, I hope that every player on the team contacts other schools to see if they can transfer. You are a gutless phony and you make me want to puke. Hell, you didn’t even go to Tech. Go back to U. Fla and see if you can fetch the coffee for Urban Meyer.

By crs

January 17, 2007 10:48 AM | Link to this

Lets have a reality check, given the facilities, academics, and the fact UGA now owns the state in recruiting, I think it is pretty incredible what Chan has done, you win more than your share of big games and go to a bowl every year. That is the most realistic Tech fans should expect. In football, in the acc, the flordia schools year in and year out because of the talent in FL will be very good, this year was an exception and I would venture, both FL schools will not be bad in the same year again for some time. Clemson and VT are and will be more talented most years when playing GT. The rest of the conference is on somewhat equal footing though if North Carolina ever makes a real commitment to football, I suspect they could be very good year in and year out. This makes Tech a middle of the pack team with very few if any chalk up the victory type games. In the SEC, Tech would a bottom tier team, in the same league with Miss St. and Vandy. I don’t see it possible for Tech to realistically ever win 9 or 10 games a year.

By Robert

January 17, 2007 10:55 AM | Link to this

Tift Dawg: Does MIT, CalTech, etal have Medical, Pharmacy, Vet, and Law Schools? What’s wrong with you lad?

By INcredibility

January 17, 2007 10:57 AM | Link to this

MIT and CalTech have football teams? Where have I been?

By Techie

January 17, 2007 10:58 AM | Link to this

Hey Tift Dawg- it doesn’t really matter that UGA has those colleges, since they still suck. GT could create a law program next year- it doesn’t really count for anything if it’s not a quality program. By the way, how’s your college of engineering working out for you?

By Valerie

January 17, 2007 11:04 AM | Link to this

Yes after I talk to Chan last Fri at his aunt memorial service, I told him I want him back and yes I agree with the writer. I want him back not cause I know him personally but with another quarterback next year, we will do well. Now that Reggie is gone, get over it Tech fans and quit whinning. It take time to rebuild program. Gee, this is college kids who trying to go to school as well as have fun playing sports. I know I have one who play 4 years of college sports and you have to make good on your academic. We not a football factory anyway.

By m

January 17, 2007 11:17 AM | Link to this

Tech should never have hired this mediocre PE major from Florida. He should be fired today.

By Pitbull

January 17, 2007 11:28 AM | Link to this

The question on the table is why hasn’t Chan won more? The answer is that he is not a good football coach.

Why do you think UGA passed over CG to hire MR, who has won 61 games in 6 years and has one six straight and never lost against GT?

By INcredibility

January 17, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this

Ahh, Pitbull, you admit that the Tech game IS important to you! Thank you for being honest.

By Ol' Dawg

January 17, 2007 11:46 AM | Link to this

To ALL my fellow Georgians, regardless! Those of you that are either immature or lack intelligence will never solve anything with the venom you spew for each other, and that includes my Dawg fans. Tech is a credit to our state, and as such, and because of the standards and lack of interest in “winning”, will always be more academic than sports oriented. UGA has progressed dramatically in the last 20 years, thanks primarily to Dr. Charles Knapp who set the tone and laid the foundation, and all Georgians can be proud of the fine educational, yes, educational institution it has become. It continues to improve. I truly believe that Tech would have a better football team while maintaining its academic standing, if it had remained in the SEC. The powers that be of that era, chose not to. The ACC has some very fine schools, and almost all are second tier football schools. Therefore, I beg the question - Why not accept the fact that Vandy and Duke realize their fate in athletics, and perhaps change your (Tech fans) thinking and accept what a terrific institution you have academically and quit trying to be both, including a football power? As a loyal bulldog, an admirer of my state engineering school, and a somewhat intelligent individual, I wish things were different and more competitive, but they aren’t and from time to time may be, but it will not anytime soon be equal on the field. Accept it Tech fans, embrace what you have including a fine individual as a football coach that instills good values for the more important things ahead in life, and be content to win a few and lose a few.

By Valerie

January 17, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this

Get over it M You a troublemakerasking for trouble. Sounded like you not a true Tech fan. Chan is a good man and glad we have him as a coach. I will contact some of his cousins and have them to look at this blog.

By Najeh Davenpoop

January 17, 2007 11:56 AM | Link to this

Reggie Ball is not lacking in talent. Gailey just wasn’t able to develop him into a reliable QB.

I still don’t think that you fire Gailey unless you have someone else in mind who a) has the name recognition to continue recruiting players as well as Gailey and b) is a better coach on the field. In the Falcons’ case, firing Jim Mora was an obvious decision because there were 4 or 5 better candidates waiting to be hired. In Gailey’s case, I’m not sure that finding a quality replacement will be that easy.

By Pitbull

January 17, 2007 12:01 PM | Link to this

Oh, I am honest. I would rather beat Tech and watch them weep and knash their teeth than have sex with a cute little Falcon’s cheerleader. And I would love to have sex with a cute little Falcon’s cheerleader.

By nerdboy

January 17, 2007 12:03 PM | Link to this

You know, no matter how many blogs I read it in, I still find it funny how UGA fans bash Tech academics. Go look up the majors for your UGA players and find: Child Care, Home Economics, Pre-Business (?? Pre-Business, what the heck is that), etc. Do any of those majors require calculus? Or computer science? Unless they do, dont bash the management program.

As for academics being a joke, anyone remember how many points a 3-pointer is worth? How about a tough one: How many halves are in a basketball game?

Hows this for an idea: don’t bash academics unless you have something to back it up.

By Pitbull

January 17, 2007 12:05 PM | Link to this

Oh, I am honest. I would rather beat Tech and watch them weep and knash their teeth than have sex with a cute little Falcon’s cheerleader. And I would love to have sex with a cute little Falcon’s cheerleader.

By JustMe

January 17, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this

Chan is an NFL coach. He approaches the game with the mindset that the players are mature athletes as opposed to college kids. This is why he doesn’t have more success at the college level.

For example, in the pros, you can usually take a 14 point lead and let your defense control the game and make conservative offensive play calling. In college games, you simply cannot count on kids to be as disciplined or mature enough to do this - they will relax and prematurely celebrate, thus losing the game.

Chan has never really learned the difference between the pro game and the college game. How many times has Chan gone conservative with a lead only for Tech to lose the game? Too many times!!!!

Chan must realize that college kids cannot stop until the clock reaches 0:00!!!!!

By JohnROSS

January 17, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this

gEORGIA IS A BUNCH OF THUG’S WHON WILL SPEND MOST OF THERE LIVE’S IN THE STATE PEN.tHE ONE’S THAT DON’T WILL BE WORKING FOR G.T GRADUATE’S.

By GoldRush

January 17, 2007 12:20 PM | Link to this

Andy, from the way he’s conducting his business it appears that Chan doesn’t want to come back to Georgia Tech. An unmotivated coach is an unsuccessful coach. Time to part ways. To discuss Tech football further join us at: http://www.bbuzzoff.com

By Spanky

January 17, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this

Andy,….that’s 6 wins in a row,..not 5.

JohnRoss,….Was that a sentence?

By Bubba Birdman

January 17, 2007 12:44 PM | Link to this

Hey JohnROSS, by your lack of proper English, it is obvious that you did not attend G.T. or any other institution of higher learning.

By GTman

January 17, 2007 12:46 PM | Link to this

Gailey and Nix both need to leave. As a coach, how could you allow ability like Bennett’s to sit on the bench while you make the fans, our defense, and CJ suffer with the play of Reggie Ball. It is the total incompetence of these two that led us to lose the last three games. In addition, how can a coach let his starting QB and starting safety get to a point that they become academically ineligible? With all the academic support available to our athletes, there is no excuse for this to happen.

I am excited about next year with the returning talent and the incoming class.

Go Jackets!

By JustMe

January 17, 2007 1:04 PM | Link to this

I am soooooo excited about the way the recruits are sticking with Tech, regardless of Chan. This speaks volumes about the institution and even more about the character of the recruits!

Go Tech!!!

By INcredibility

January 17, 2007 1:13 PM | Link to this

I agree with you, JustMe, but let’s see if they ACTUALLY stay when he leaves. It’s a whole lot easier to speculate than it is to actually decide.

By Cee G

January 17, 2007 1:20 PM | Link to this

The question about being able to compete is this. If GT had the same academic requirements as UGA, how then would they fare against each other in football? If Caleb King is a “five-star” athlete yet can’t get in @ GT, is it fare to compare the two schools? How many other “top-flight” players are on UGA’s roster who would be ineligible @ Tech? Could you compare, say, the New England Patriots and Oakland Raiders if Tom Brady is ineligible to play for the Raiders!!

By Matt

January 17, 2007 1:37 PM | Link to this

My lord you Techies get dumber by the minute. Gee, who would be responsible for starting Reggie Ball at QB for 4 years? Can one of you plug that into your pocket calculator and get an answer for me?

LOL @ the stupidity.

By Matthew at the SLC

January 17, 2007 1:45 PM | Link to this

Mr. Barlowe,

Sir, where did you get your numbers, because they are dead wrong. Did they not teach you the academic principle of research at your trade school? Mr. Barlowe, if you had bothered to do a little research, you would have found that the numbers you quoted have no basis in fact whatsoever. What else should I expect from the trade school which helped to make a mess out of Atlanta’s highway and interstate system?

Mr. Barlowe, Georgia has 2 outright National Championships and 4 shared titles. Tech has 4 shared titles, none of them are outright championships. Now, if you’re not following me, that means in those 4 years, another team, possibly more, have had claims to winning the National Title in that year.

So where does that leave us? That leaves UGA with the EXACT SAME NUMBER of shared National Championships as Georgia YECH, and oh yeah, two, count ‘em, TWO outright, no disputing it National Championships.

And what’s the difference between Georgia and Georgia YECH? We only celebrate the titles we won outright, and don’t have a flag at Sanford Stadium proclaiming out shared titles. YECH? They like to make people think they’ve won 4 outright titles, but much like their claims of academic excellence, they are FRAUDULENT.

Sorry, Trade Schoolers. You just don’t measure up in any way, shape, or form to the University of Georgia. You let athletes into your intstitution with just as many waivers as we do. You’re no different. In fact, you’re worse, because you created a school of business at a trade (engineering?) school just so you could actually try and grab better athletes from schools like UGA, or at least, grab the 2-star recruit scraps left over.

So, the minute YECH added a business school, and letting athletes in on the same kind of waivers we do at times, then you lost all right to make the academic superiority argument. And that goes doubly since it was found that your student athletic system was fradulent this whole time anyway.

I’m just waiting to hear the next great lie from YECH alumni on this board, about how you’re my boss, or our bosses, and how you drive nice cars and do all sorts of things, like NOT attending Star Wars conventions and the such. And how about you get laid all the time because you’re all so smart and girls really don’t care if you’re the nerdiest nerd, because you’re so smart.

Guys, if these are the best comebacks you have in the face of cold, hard facts, well, then I really do kind of pity you.

By INcredibility

January 17, 2007 1:45 PM | Link to this

Matt, I don’t think any of us are arguing that it wasn’t Chan’s fault?

By gdawginkalamazoo

January 17, 2007 1:49 PM | Link to this

INcredibility, I like your posts. Well said.

Andy, Well said. Reading some of the other blogs there seems to be a tad bit of animosity towards Chan. IMO you guys will probably be the front runner for ACC Cahmpionship next season. You have a lot of talent coming back. How foolish would most your fan base look if you did win the ACC?

By INcredibility

January 17, 2007 1:55 PM | Link to this

gdawg, Thanks for the compliment (maybe?) but I seriously doubt Tech will be the frontrunner for the ACC next year. Unfortunately, Miami (even with the changes) and FSU (ditto) don’t stay down long. As I said, I’m not worried. I’m along for the ride, I love Tech sports, and I hope it works out for us!

By Matt

January 17, 2007 1:55 PM | Link to this

Matt, I don’t think any of us are arguing that it wasn’t Chan’s fault?

I believe Mr. Fritchley is.

“Do you really want to judge Chan Gailey’s tenure at Georgia Tech knowing that Reggie Ball has been his quarterback 4 out of the 5 seasons?”

Yes sir I do. Here’s a little Football 101 for you. Chan Gailey, as head coach of the team, is responsible for player personell decisions. Criticism of Reggie Ball is criticism of Chan Gailey. Gailey chose to start Ball. Gailey coached Ball and made him the player that he is. This is very basic stuff about the game of football. My god.

Georgia Tech football fans=JOKE. Give it up.

By Ronny

January 17, 2007 2:00 PM | Link to this

Southeastern Sports report on 680 says that Gailey and Mora may have fallen back a little in the Miami coaching search. Cam Cameron and Dom Capers may have advanced. Just for what it’s worth. Who knows? I think Chan’s a fine man and good recruiter. But his game management falls far short. I.e., keeping Reggie in, when he should have been pulled in favor of Bennett in several games, makes no sense. And I agree with the blogger who brought up the lack of intensity in the second half of several games. Notre Dame comes to mind. Tech could and should have won that game. .

By INcredibility

January 17, 2007 2:03 PM | Link to this

Matt … Did you read beyond the first paragraph? He goes on to say, “So you ask why didn’t Gailey play anyone else at QB — especially those last few games? I have the same question and I don’t think there’s an answer coming anytime soon. This is a disservice to the fans and I believe we deserve a good answer. After all, we’re the ones who paid to watch that nonsense.”

Jeez. Read before you post. “My god.”

By in the round 1980

January 17, 2007 2:19 PM | Link to this

Whether or not Mr Gailey gets the Miami position, or any other for that matter, he has handled the situation appropriately. From what I’ve read he recruited future players by placing the Institute first and then offering the opportunity to participate in the football program. Understanding this explains a lot, including the loyality of the recruits to their commitment and Mr. Gailey’s position concerning the play of Mr. Ball. Honor, Respect, Humility, Perserverance: If Mr Gailey does not return to Georgia Tech, he has already made his mark in the sand and it will be up to the Institution to determine the future of the program.

By Matt

January 17, 2007 2:20 PM | Link to this

Yes, I read the whole thing. He is relieving Chan Gailey of responsibility for not “winning more” and putting it on Reggie Ball. It is ludicrous and defies logic. The buck stops with the head coach. It’s nobodies fault but his. MY GOD.

By INcredibility

January 17, 2007 2:24 PM | Link to this

Matt, I respectfully disagree with everything you just wrote. He isn’t “relieving Chan Gailey of his responsibility” and putting it on Reggie. He’s saying that a QB makes or breaks a team (true) and that Reggie was left in the game after proving his inability to lead (true) and that Chan is a respectable human being, if not the best HC (true.) He is also admitting that we, as Tech fans, may be stuck with Chan until at least 2011 so we better suck it up and work with him as best we can. Also true.

By Valerie

January 17, 2007 2:45 PM | Link to this

Hey JohnRoss I think I know who you are and thank for your post too. I did contact Chan cousins here in town and told them to look at this blog. I wanted to tell you guys my husband got his recreation major at UGA and had classes with the football team and he told how they cheat and get away not going to classes. Anyway I am not planned to go to any Tech games next year if Chan not coming back. I had enough of this whinning and bickeringr among the Tech fans. I am so embrassed no wonder the UGA fans are making fun of us.

By Spike

January 17, 2007 3:13 PM | Link to this

Sheesh!!! I wish you guys would make up your mind.

By gdawginkalamazoo

January 17, 2007 3:32 PM | Link to this

INcredibility, you might be right there regarding Miami and FSU. But didn’t Miami hire the old OC? Something about them wanting to take the program in a “new” direction but yet hiring someone from Coker’s staff. I might be wrong on that though. FSU would probably be a bigger worry. Jimbo (might want to get a grown up name) Fisher is the real deal and will probably take over for Bobby in the next year or so if things go well for them. So you might have a transition year for those guys. If you do get a new coach you will be in trouble unless it is a current assistant (which I would highly doubt) that keeps most everything intact. Anyhoo good luck. Did Schottenheimer get fired yet? He would be next inline at the Dolphins.

By Give Chan Another Chan-ce?

January 17, 2007 3:34 PM | Link to this

How ANYONE on Earth that claims to be a Tech Football Fan can print things like “This is a disservice to the fans and I believe we deserve a good answer. After all, we’re the ones who paid to watch that nonsense” in one paragraph…Then a paragraph or two later, “If Chan stays, I’ll give him another chance. I want to move forward and forget about the Reggie Ball era” shows just how committed you really are…What COMPLETE NONSENSE!

You obviously haven’t SUFFERED enough yet at the hands of this Coach…And it you think things are going to get better? Well…You must have had your EYES CLOSED during the Gator Bowl when this Reggie-less Coach PROVED that no matter HOW HARD his team plays, not matter HOW MANY points are put up on the board by the offense, no matter HOW EXCEPTIONAL the QB play is: THIS COACH WILL DO WHAT HE HAS ALWAYS DONE — SNATCH DEFEAT FROM THE JAWS OF VICTORY!

Go back and re-read the post-game quotes from the WAKE game and the WVU game…He clearly said PUNT from the 54-yd line against WAKE, then he tried a RIDICULOUS 54-ys FG that had absolutely NO CHANCE on the same field, same wet conditions, same kicker to effectively END THE GAME WITH A LOSS against WVU…

The definition of INSANITY is: Doing the SAME things over and over and expecting DIFFERENT results…This coach PROVED he’s the MOST INSANE HEAD COACH in College Football by playing RB, playing RB, playing RB for 4 FREAKIN’ YEARS until WIKIPEDIA now grants the INFAMOUS REGGIE BALL the title of MOST INEFFECTIVE 4-YEAR STARTER IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL HISTORY!

So here’s what you have with this coach:

1) THE MOST INSANE COACH IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL

2) THE MOST INEFFECTIVE HEAD COACH IN COLLEGE FOOTBALL HISTORY, since he was so OBTUSE he refused to remove RB when he was a “worse than ineffective” 6-for-22, 42 YDS PASSING, 2 INT, 1 FUMBLE ret for TD against a UGAy team this coach had already lost to 4 TIMES IN A ROW!

3) THE ONLY COACH IN DIV 1-A WHO WOULD PUNT AWAY A CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP ON 4TH DOWN WITH 2 MINUTES TO PLAY

4) THE ONLY COACH STILL IN DIV 1-A WHO COULD FIND A WAY TO LOSE WHEN HIS QB PASSES FOR A SCHOOL BOWL RECORD 326 YDS, YET HE SQUANDERS AN 18-PT HALFTIME LEAD

5) THE COACH WHO COULD GO TO A BOWL GAME EVERY YEAR, BUT NEVER FINISH A SINGLE SEASON IN THE TOP 25

6) THE COACH WHO HAS SINGLE-HANDEDLY DESTROYED THE GA/GA TECH RIVALRY THAT SO MANY OF US GREW UP IN THE MIDDLE OF…IT IS NO LONGER A RIVALRY, BECAUSE THIS COACH DOESN’T EVEN WANT TO WIN IT

If you objectively evaluate this coach’s performance, or lack thereof, then you can’t POSSIBLY believe anything will change without RB. Even if RB was playing on another planet…This coach would STILL SUCK as a head coach because he can’t manage his personnel and games for WINS when they’re MUST WIN GAMES!

Chan Gailey OBVIOUSLY hates GT and doesn’t even want to be here anymore…Just ask his AGENT who’s trying to place him ANYWHERE ELSE! If after ALL OF THIS, you STILL say “Give Chan A Chan-ce!”…Well, you’ve been BRAINE DEAD for the past 5 years! (LIKE VALERIE)

By Russell

January 17, 2007 3:42 PM | Link to this

Chan Gailey is a good human being. As a football coach he is an under acheiver who cannot win a big game because he coaches not to lose instead of coaching to win. Tech was very lucky to win the Maryland game and the red zone offense has been tentative not only this year but in every year he has been at Tech.

Chan made a decision to play Reggie for 4 years. Reggie did not improve in 4 years, in fact he regressed. I call that a coaching failure. Reggie ran his mouth on the field for 4 years to the detriment of his team in many cases. I call that a coaching faiure.

I hope Miami hires Chan, but if not he needs to be fired because he has been a coaching failure. At a time when he had his team, his recruits and when UGA was down and Wake Forest was his ACC opponent for the championship Chan Gailey could not win the big game. That is failure and the buck stops with him!

If he stays Tech and mediocraty will remain synonomous.

By joseph

January 17, 2007 3:52 PM | Link to this

Uh..it has been six years . Just so ya’ll remember. Sic’ Em

By James

January 17, 2007 4:32 PM | Link to this

“The institute cut its own throat and bled itself out when it cut and ran from the SEC.”

Maybe so, but when Bear Bryant and Bobby Dodd patched up their differences, mainly because the NCAA set scholarship limits, it was Dooley and UGA that wouldn’t let Tech back in the conference. Go read the conference votes.

So you can’t fault Tech for not being in the SEC. At one time they wanted to come back. Now, I think its a different story.

By James

January 17, 2007 4:36 PM | Link to this

“You are on PROBATION for academic misconduct.” The school is on probation because the registrar’s office can’t follow the NCAA rules when converting classes from quarters to semesters. It was a stupid clerical error made by some idiotic clerk in an office that has nothing to do with academics or athletics.

By UGAG SUX

January 17, 2007 4:37 PM | Link to this

moc is an inbred idiot uga fan. Never went to school but bleeds red & black. All athletes must pass so many hours/credits toward a degree to be able to play sports. Most players that have played 4 years are a year or so away from graduating. Get your facts straight. Hey mutts, “GATORS ARE THE NATIONAL CHAMPIONS AND IT WILL SOON BE 15 OUT OF 17. CHOMP CHOMP

By James

January 17, 2007 4:40 PM | Link to this

“Let’s also discuss your ONE national championship to Tech’s FOUR.”

Let’s not also forget that uga would not have been in a position to win that game if Tech had not tied Notre Dame in 1980. It must really be sad for uga fans to know in the back of their mind that Tech played a roll in their only National Chanpionship.

By GET A CLUE!

January 17, 2007 4:45 PM | Link to this

joseph…Thanks for reminding all of us TECH FANS on this TECH BLOG that there’s ALWAYS A UGAy DAWG HIDING SOMEWHERE just waiting to jump out and show his IGNORANCE in front of everyone! Coach GAILEY has LOST 5 TIMES IN A ROW to UGAy. Get it?

This is a BLOG about coach GAILEY. The comment regarding 5 losses in a row was about GAILEY. Get it?

Uh, VALERIE…UGAy Fans are making fun of us BECAUSE THIS COACH HAS NO DESIRE TO WIN WHAT WAS FORMERLY ONE OF THE GREATEST COLLEGE FOOTBALL RIVALRIES IN THE SOUTH…We’ve LOST 6 times in a row! THAT’S why UGAy fans are laughing at us…Oh, that AND IGNORANT POSTS by Tech Fans who STILL WANT THIS COACH ON THE SIDELINES, or they WON’T go to any more games next year? WTF?!?!

Are you beyond your TEEN years yet? If you’d wake up from your deep funk, you’d see that HARDLY ANYONE IS GOING to Tech Games NOW…Except the opposing Fans. What…You want to talk about UGAy football players “cheating” like it’s something secret?

How about Coach GAILEY…Who has brought ACADEMIC DISGRACE once again to the Tech Campus (not long after the NCAA just packed up and left the LAST time), with 3 SENIORS academically ineligible for the Bowl…Specifically because this Coach is MENTALLY-INELIGIBLE!

“Let the Seniors be their own Guides”? PLLEEEAAAZZZZEEE!! Just how much FAILURE from this Coach Gailey is ENOUGH, before you Chan-Huggers cry UNCLE!??? Clearly, we haven’t sunk to that level …YET.

By Joseph

January 17, 2007 4:57 PM | Link to this

Was Ken Swilling a mathematical Genius? What about Derrick Steagall? Or maybe Nat Dorsey? I think that Rueben Houston was a business major, of course he was too busy playing in the bowl game and attending court to graduate. In a couple of years this years recruiting class will be 0 for 2 against Georgia and ya’ll will still be nerds living in probably the worst city on the planet. GOOO Dawgs!!

By JustMe

January 17, 2007 5:24 PM | Link to this

My Dear Mathew at the SLC….

I believe that to compare National Championships to National Championships, we need to lool at one sport, and we talk football here. So the ugag NC in underwater basket weaving simply does not count.

Please repost your “numbers” comparing FOOTBALL National Championships between GA Tech and ugay. I betcha won’t because then you would eat crow!!!

As a matter of fact, GA Tech has more SEC conference championships than ugay!!!! How funny is that?

By Wally Butts

January 17, 2007 6:00 PM | Link to this

Gailey has done a good job. The team has definitely improved in his time. His peak has been his wins over Auburn. But he should have accomplished more this year. The end of season melt down is inexcusable. Leaving the SEC is the best move Tech has ever made. College sports is more than football (except in Athens). Our ACC basketball association alone has more than made up for leaving SEC football.

By Nono

January 17, 2007 6:16 PM | Link to this

I am one of a few how likes coach Gailey. Before he hired Patrick Nix, I was at oods with him. Same ‘ole three plays and a cloud of dust, but now things are a little different. The offense is a lot more unpredictable and exciting to watch. You have a few supporters Chan

By gtlinz

January 17, 2007 6:36 PM | Link to this

I believe one of the real reasons for Chan’s success is John Tenuta. Will Tech continue to improve? Not sure if that will happen once Tenuta gets another job. Chan has many pluses (solid individual and coach) but also has not handled the other rigors of being a college coach (how many years will kids keep being academically ineligble and HOW OH HOW do you not replace Reggie when he obviously could not handle the big game pressure??). I won’t be upset if he stays but want to see improvement. If he goes then Tenuta gets his wish and mine too. Hate to see another great assistant coach end up elsewhere like the Fridge (who was most of O’Leary’s success).

By Reggie

January 17, 2007 7:33 PM | Link to this

Although it seems many Georgia Tech fans and supporters have forgotten about all of the good things Reggie Ball accomplished at Georgia Tech, Reggie still has some supporters who will miss him. Please note that UGA will officially retire Reggie Ball’s jersey at the first home game of the 2007 season, versus Oklahoma State, at half time.

By CMR

January 17, 2007 7:34 PM | Link to this

Although it seems many Georgia Tech fans and supporters have forgotten about all of the good things Reggie Ball accomplished at Georgia Tech, Reggie still has some supporters who will miss him. Please note that UGA will officially retire Reggie Ball’s jersey at the first home game of the 2007 season, versus Oklahoma State, at half time.

By boonedawg

January 17, 2007 8:10 PM | Link to this

Why hasn’t Chan won more games?? It’s a very simple answer that even a Techie or a Geico caveman spokesman could understand…. Mark Richt.

Richt wins, Tech loses.

By spike

January 17, 2007 9:08 PM | Link to this

Why Gailey hasn’t won more? Because your players aren’t that good.

By Only UGAy MVP to NEVER Wear A UGAy Uniform!!t

January 17, 2007 9:27 PM | Link to this

The FACT that there are ANY GT Fans who STILL prefer to have GAYLY coaching is a complete joke! Someone said he “coaches not to lose”…I agree that he does when he’s AHEAD. Unfortunately, he continues to coach not to lose once the team has fallen behind. Then it becomes a coaching NOT TO WIN strategy…Apparently Gayly is too DENSE to recognize this is a failed strategy, because he repeatedly attempted it in the UGAy, WAKE and WVU games. The team ended each day with a 3 point LOSS.

ANY GT FAN WHO READS THE FOLLOWING AND STILL SOMEHOW THINKS GAYLY IS GOING TO MAGICALLY CHANGE HIS STRIPES NEEDS TO CONSIDER WHO WE’RE TALKING ABOUT HERE…

Every Head Coach from High School on up OWES it to the Fans, Players and other Supporters to make personnel changes when needed…In other words, when a single player is NOT productive, or even hurting the team, then the player should be benched for a substitution. This is especially TRUE when the player is the QB and responsible for running the offense and scoring points…It’s why Backup QBs were invented. Nothing tricky here…Just Coaching for Dummies 101.

So here’s how HORRIBLY this single player was ALLOWED to perform over an extended period of time, namely his entire period of eligibility. Keep in mind that this head coach could’ve PULLED this player AT ANY TIME…IN ANY GAME…BUT NEVER DID! So he ALLOWED this player to become THE WORST QB EVER, thereby EARNING the title of THE WORST HEAD COACH EVER. (Following taken from http://cfn.scout.com/2/603148.html)

In light of the news for GT fans about the bowl game, have we seen the last of one of the worst QBs ever? Although my age (18) and me growing up in ACC country has influenced my decision, I think Reggie Ball is the worst quarterback I’ve personally ever seen, especially for someone who’s started for that long. Statistically, his completion % has dropped each year until it bottomed out at around 44% this season. Who do you think are the worst quarterbacks that college football has ever seen? - MA

A: Great minds think alike; I was thinking the exact same thing the second Ball was declared ineligible. I’m going to enlist the help of the readers on this one, and I’ll publish any good nominees next week, after doing some quick research, checking around, and going deep into the memory bank to come up with a quarterback who 1) was a four-year starter playing at least 40 career games (Ball played 49),. 2) completed fewer than half of his passes (Ball completed 48.5), 3) had a near even touchdown to interception ratio (Ball threw 57 touchdown passes and 55 interceptions), and 4) wasn’t purely a runner (like some of the old option quarterbacks).

I don’t want to dog a guy when he’s down, but considering the way Ball ended his career completing 15 of 51 passes for 171 yards with four interceptions in key games against Georgia and Wake Forest, to finish by being academically ineligible has made things even worse. I couldn’t come up with anyone who was even remotely close to being as ineffective on such a big scale.

AMAZING! Chan Gayly is the Head Coach and is PERSONALLY RESPONSIBLE for allowing this single player to be put on a pedestal ABOVE the rest of the team when his PERFORMANCE obviously did NOT warrant non-stop playing time! Through his CONTINUOUS INACTION, Gayly also was SOLELY RESPONSIBLE for this single player’s PUBLIC FAILURES, both on-the-field and off-the-field. So you can take all of that “Gayly cares about his players stuff and STICK IT!” He REPEATEDLY left a kid out to dry, almost like he wanted him to fail, just to keep the heat off himself!! What other answer is there besides being on the take?…(Which is a charge I don’t make and something not to be taken lightly.)

But inexplicably, Gayly doesn’t care enough about his own dumbfounded, die-hard Fans to provide any explanation for allowing these QB MELTDOWNS (repeatedly) OVER 4 YEARS! Oddly, Gayly doesn’t even seem to care enough about Gayly and his own reputation to come clean in public, preferring to be known as EXTREMELY STUBBORN, to a fault.

So there MUST be something more sinister behind the scenes than just being too freakin’ STUPID to never remove an IMPLODING QB. Otherwise, why would he be so desperately trying to LEAVE if he’s so “happy where he is now”?

UNBELIEVABLY Chan-Huggers STILL want him to be GT Head Coach, even as he’s flying around the country interviewing anywhere his agent can get him in the door. Add in his Academic Ineligibilities FAILURE Off the Field and you have what might be The MOST Well-Rounded Head Coaching FAILURE Of All-Time In Div 1-A!

By Navigator

January 17, 2007 11:03 PM | Link to this

I think the winning issues come down to one. He never understood the college offense is not the same as the pros. When he came to Tech, they had one the most innovative offenses in the country, but because Gailey only new the pro style, he junked it and the coordinator. Even when he hired a new offensive coordinator, he ran the staid offense that Auburn used to use. His greatest weakness is that he couldn’t drag himself out of the past. If he get’s the Dolphin job, I doubt he will be more than mediocre there either. Maybe he will realize that his style of football may not be viable anymore. If he stays at Tech look forward to more 6-7-8 wins. I guess that mediocrity will be the calling card for a while.

By Ronny

January 18, 2007 1:01 AM | Link to this

Paul Johnson of Navy would have to be a top candidate if Chan were to leave. Paul turned around Georgia Southern, and then went on to great success in Annapolis. And under difficult academic expectations at that. Paul is a great individual, as is Chan. But Paul would likely take Tech to a higher level. .

By WestPointGrad

January 18, 2007 10:33 AM | Link to this

By nerdboy

January 17, 2007 12:03 PM | Link to this

You know, no matter how many blogs I read it in, I still find it funny how UGA fans bash Tech academics. Go look up the majors for your UGA players and find: Child Care, Home Economics, Pre-Business (?? Pre-Business, what the heck is that), etc. Do any of those majors require calculus? Or computer science? Unless they do, dont bash the management program.

Do you guys at Tech realize how totally ignorant that “calculus card” you play is starting to sound? Calculus is by no means a measure of anyone’s overall intelligence. At the Point I took every concievable math course that you guys hold up as the holy grail, and as an excuse, I might add. Since 1975 I have not had to use calculus period. I am now the VP of Operations for a high speed camera and robotics manufacturing facility supervising quit a few Tech grads in project manager positions. I do not need calculus to do my job. Every academic course of study is relevant and has it’s share of very intelligent people. That is what makes the world go round people. I am not sure what percentage of Tech fans it is that cries incessently about calculus, but to those of you who don’t, thank you. The others just make themselves sound stupid. Excuse makers never rise to the top in any endeaver.

By L. Munson

January 18, 2007 11:09 AM | Link to this

WestPointGrad, it takes alot of hobnail boots to the head to get through the thick skulls of some of these nerds. And I do agree that the truly smart Techies will try to find a way to get it done while the dumb ones will continue to cry calculus and stay losers.

By 91Wreck

January 18, 2007 1:37 PM | Link to this

West Point Grad -

You need to be worried about your own team. At least we are slightly better than mediocre. Let’s review Army’s last four “campaigns”:

  1. 3-9
  2. 4-7
  3. 2-9
  4. 0-13

Could you please tell me why Army’s record is so poor? I am sure you won’t have ANY excuses.

Now please take your vile and go to the Junkyard Blawg.

By WestPointGrad

January 18, 2007 2:16 PM | Link to this

No 91wreck. At The Point it is what it is. But what did you say your excuse was again? Calculus?

By Al Davis

January 18, 2007 2:19 PM | Link to this

WPG, these excuse makers will never get it nor will they ever do anything other than make excuses for the string of losses that they will continue to suffer to UGA and their ACC brethren. It is very convenient for them to have an excuse. So don’t expect that to change. And you are right. Excuse makers will always be mediocre at best.

By 91Wreck

January 18, 2007 4:05 PM | Link to this

WPG,

You must by a politician. I admire the way you avoided my question, so let me answer it for your. Your team will NEVER win on a consistent basis with your current academic requirements. You probably have the finest football coach in America and even he can’t get your guys to win. Go clean up the mess in your own backyard before you comment on the mess in ours.

You posted this same foolishness last week and I exposed the flaws of your poor argument then. It is clear that there is an inverse correlation between the academic requirements placed on the athletes (not the general student population) at a given school and the winning percentage of their football team.

We do compete in D-1 football with our current situation because we make some exceptions for our athletes. If we want to be a top 25 football team on a consistent basis we will have to provide more “jock majors” and continue to lower the standards placed on our players. I am not whining about our current situation, nor am I advocating we further reduce our standards. As you would say – it is what it is. But do you really believe that it is a coincidence that the last three times we beat UGA we were using academically ineligible players?

Your nom de blog is a tad bit misleading don’t you think? It is though you are trying to convince us that you are both intelligent (I am sure you are) and non-partisan at the same time. It is clear, however, that you have nothing good to say about our program while you kiss up to the UGA intruders on this blog. Again, why don’t you go over to the Junkyard Blawg and continue your love fest with them?

Al Davis - get your “facts” together as well. We have a six-game losing streak to UGA, but we haven’t had a losing ACC record in several years. Apparently the hair gel you have used all these years has seeped through your skull and clouded your reasoning.

By 91Wreck

January 18, 2007 4:18 PM | Link to this

WPG you said:

Since 1975 I have not had to use calculus period. I am now the VP of Operations for a high speed camera and robotics manufacturing facility supervising quit a few Tech grads in project manager positions. I do not need calculus to do my job.

Neither do I. I have solved one differntial equation my entire engineering career. But that argument does not address the issue at hand (academic requirements placed on athletes and the success of their football team). Nice strawman though.

BTW - we are all impressed with your credentials. You’re smart, you’re successful, but you’re wrong on this issue.

By Doug

January 18, 2007 4:22 PM | Link to this

Some Tech fans make Gailey’s 0-5 record vs. the Dawgs a major issue in any discussion of his suitability for the job, others claim not to care about it, but here’s something interesting I found out today:

Only three head coaches in the history of the Tech program have a winning record against Georgia.

And the last guy to do it was Bobby Dodd, who retired 40-odd years ago (and was barely above .500 at 12-10). The other two were John Heisman and Leonard Wood (who only coached one game against UGA).

Think about that, Techies. More than 110 years of football, something like 16 or 17 coaches, and only three of them have winning records against the Dawgs. Bobby Ross won a national title, but even he was only 2-3. William Alexander won a title, but he was only 7-10-3 (and that’s with Tech’s two disputed victories in ‘43 and ‘44 included). George O’Leary took those three from the Dawgs in ‘98-‘00, but he lost five others.

Why hasn’t Chan won more? Because he’s at Georgia Tech. That’s just the way it is.

By toemeetsleather

January 18, 2007 6:18 PM | Link to this

actually its all just bad luck…thought the reggie-calvin-chan connection would bring us yet another national championship[sorry bullpuppies yours is so far back most people weren’t born]…so close///GO YELLOWJACKETS!!

By doddman

January 18, 2007 6:20 PM | Link to this

COASTAL DIVISION CHAMPS!!! i rest my case!!!GO JACKETS!!

By bulldogsforchan

January 18, 2007 6:24 PM | Link to this

i think we should all unite and get behind chan…jackets true messiah

By surfrider

January 18, 2007 7:18 PM | Link to this

Gailey may have what many have a fear of success. He was on the brink of it at Tech but it slipped slighty due to the subject of QB play, or more pointed a sub 50% pass completion ratio. Is that Reggie Ball’s fault or is that the coaches fault? I surmise a little bit of both. Maybe they could have built Reggie’s confidence up better by a short passing game to go with an option game kind of like Shawn Jones then implement a more vertical passing game as the experience came on. The other problem is Reggie was not redshirted, which was a major coaching blunder but that also points to whose interest Gailey was really into, his own. Gailey was on the bubble his whole five years at Tech. Some wanted him fired after year one and the big loss to Ga. Many wanted him fired after year two. Stubborness or a lack of risk taking or just plain ignorance may have cost Gailey a huge victory season this year at Tech and his pick of NFL jobs. But in the end Gailey has used Tech like a Violin. He was a weakened former NFL head coach and he wanted to get back to that. Tech was his vehicle. Tech at the same time probably wasted three years in recruiting by not have a better transitional coach who was familiar with Tech and did’nt have to reinvent the wheel like we do every coaching change. Times have changed in the NFL, either you win in three years or you’re out. In college it’s moving the same way as it’s just too big of a business to stick with mediocrity for 5 years. Two or three years maybe but not 5 or more years.

By GreyGayGeek

January 18, 2007 7:36 PM | Link to this

To a grad of a Division I-AA school, it’s really easy: Florida is to Georgia what Georgia is to Georgia Tech.

By TechIsGay-ley

January 18, 2007 9:30 PM | Link to this

So, Gay-ley is going to the Fins? Ha! I love it! Any chance the Dawgs can schedule them next year? Guaranteed win! Reggie Ball will be his number one draft choice! For such a “smart” school you nerds really are idiots…

By TechIsGay-ley

January 18, 2007 9:57 PM | Link to this

By the way, the “Calculus” talk is laughable. Tech athletes haven’t been required to take calculus since 1973, when Pepper Rodgers got that waived. Also, there are lots of majors at tech that don’t require Calc, i.e. every crap major in your sh*tty Sam Nunn policy “college.” Nerds! Lying, cheatin Nerds!

By moc

January 19, 2007 7:31 AM | Link to this

You shouldn’t tell the truth like that TechisGay-ley! It will take away all of their excuses for being the second tier losers that they are. The excuses are the only things keeping half of them alive. Now they will all be on suicide watch due to their even lower sense of self esteem.

By WestPointGrad

January 19, 2007 7:49 AM | Link to this

By 91Wreck

January 18, 2007 04:05 PM | Link to this

WPG,

You must by a politician. I admire the way you avoided my question, so let me answer it for your. Your team will NEVER win on a consistent basis with your current academic requirements. You probably have the finest football coach in America and even he can’t get your guys to win. Go clean up the mess in your own backyard before you comment on the mess in ours.

What mess are you referring to? It is what it is at The Point. You have the mess, obviously. How many academically ineligible players? Probation? Tech has the mess. And unless Tech fans wake up and actually do something positive for the program it will remain a mess. 7 years of lack of institutional control? Now that is a mess. Or did your calculus not teach you to recognize a mess when it sits down on your face?

By moc

January 19, 2007 8:47 AM | Link to this

91wreck you are not intelligent enough to expose the flaws in your own football program much less any other substantive topic. You are an EXCUSE maker and it shows. You are worthless when it comes to rational thought. You have problems at Tech that start with people like you, not a curriculum that most of your athletes never are exposed to as evidenced by the ineligibles and the PROBATION. You are not very good at factual matters are you dumb boy? Your problems are your problems at the trade school. Instead of scapegoating and whining like little spoiled worthless brats, get off your pompous, santimonious, excuse making butts and change things. But no, you would rather continue to lose, continue to be mediocre, and make excuses for thet condition. You are a loser 91wreck

By Douglas

January 19, 2007 9:15 AM | Link to this

91wreck, your overblown ego, inflated sense of self worth, and a underdeveloped mind is not a good combination. No wonder so many guys like you are getting outsourced to India.

By 91Wreck

January 19, 2007 9:33 AM | Link to this

WPG

You have finally made some intelligent comments. I agree that we either need to accept our fate (as Duke and Army have done) or change our academic standards. I DON’T CARE either way. The only thing I want our school to do is to MAKE A DECISION. ARE WE GOING TO BE DUKE, OR UGA. I am not whining or making excuses - just stating the obvious.

moc

I am sooooooo scared of your insults. I am stating facts. I have exposed the flaws at our school. We beat you when we lowered our academic standards and cheated (a fact that you and your ilk continue to bring up on OUR blog). Those are the facts LTTLE BOY.

Almost all UGA fans that I know are smart, reasonable, good-natured people. I get along with them and am proud to count many of them as friends. But sniveling cowards like you that come to OUR BLOG disgust me. In your ignorance and foolish arrogance you think that just because your football team is superior to ours then it must mean that every UGA fan is athletically superior every Tech grad. You are probably 120 lb nerdy weakling that can’t get a date. You are sitting alone in your dorm room because you are too embarrassed to go to class. Your only entertainment is coming on to our blog because you are not wanted on your own.

Let me break it down in words you can understand - I ain’t skeered of u.

By moc

January 19, 2007 12:33 PM | Link to this

You’re doing alot of foaming at the mouth though 91wreck. Skeered? Is that spelling acceptable at Tech? Good thing your forte is using a calculator.

By 91Wreck

January 19, 2007 12:58 PM | Link to this

I am foaming at the mouth? Surely you can’t be serious.

As I said to one of your brethren last week (perhaps it was you under another name) - hello pot, meet kettle.

By moc

January 19, 2007 1:10 PM | Link to this

At least you spelled all the words correctly this time.

By Kenny

January 19, 2007 2:15 PM | Link to this

I Think Gailey has done fair job, but I think that is as good as it gets with him. DRed should be talking to Tenuta, and get him to stay. Ken Whisenhunt would make an excellent Head coach. He also knows a lot of offensive people to take place of PNix and crew. Go Jackets

By TechIsGay-ley

January 19, 2007 2:27 PM | Link to this

Kenny, crawl out of the nerd lair and come to the realization that Whisenhunt accepted the head job for the Arizona Cardinals TWO WEEKS AGO. Glad to know you’re up on issues you feel compelled to pontificate about. Back to the abbacus.

By Kenny

January 19, 2007 2:44 PM | Link to this

SEC Southeastern Cheaters. There is Always one or more on probation for one thing or another, it really makes the south look stupid. Cheating is not winning.

By 91Wreck

January 19, 2007 2:45 PM | Link to this

Douglas

Before you comment on my “underdeveloped” mind, you may want to check your own posts. Overblown ego and inflated sense of self worth is the same thing Einstein.

By TechIsGay-ley

January 19, 2007 2:51 PM | Link to this

Kenny, you really are a dumbsh*t. Cheaters? What do you call playing the same academically ineligible players for THREE STRAIGHT YEARS? Oh, yeah, Georgia Tech football. I’ll bet you helped George O’Liar with his resume, huh?

By Kenny

January 19, 2007 3:06 PM | Link to this

TechIsGay-ley Since 1990, eight SEC members have been penalized nine times for major football rules violations (Alabama has been caught twice), while SEC men’s basketball teams have committed six major infractions. That makes the SEC the pacesetter in NCAA rules violations.

both Alabama and Kentucky were slapped with serious NCAA sanctions. NCAA investigators are exploring Arkansas’ football program, and LSU has recently launched a probe into its football program’s academics.

On Friday, Arkansas self-imposed sanctions through 2004-05 in football and basketball after finding athletes were overpaid for work with a Dallas booster. The NCAA will rule on whether to accept Arkansas’ penalties in August.

Tennessee came under scrutiny twice recently. First, the Vols were stripped of two football scholarships when the head coach admitted meeting with a former Alabama player before the player was granted his release from Alabama.

Then Mobile Register sports writer Wayne Rowe admitted cashing two checks totaling $4,500 from a Mobile insurance executive and forwarding them to a former Tennessee quarterback in February 1999. Rowe resigned from the newspaper in May 2002.

“The numbers bear out (a culture of cheating),” said former Auburn Coach Terry Bowden, now a college football analyst for ABC Sports.

Bill Curry, a former head coach at Alabama and Kentucky and now an ESPN college football color analyst, said the SEC has “the most visible examples” of cheating.

By TechIsGay-ley

January 19, 2007 3:57 PM | Link to this

Right. Let’s solve one problem at a time. TECH PLAYED ACADEMICALLY INELIGIBLE PLAYERS FOR THREE STRAIGHT YEARS. And if you want to compare conferences, I’ll talk all day long about the Nerds, Clemson, F$U, Miami, and NC State. The ACC is just as guilty as the rest of us. Oh, only difference is they can’t beat the SEC. Losers.

By Doug

January 19, 2007 4:52 PM | Link to this

Tech used ineligible players for a lot longer than three years. It’s just that they only managed to beat Georgia three of those years.

The NCAA said Tech used ineligible players from 1998 to 2004. So even WITH all those ineligible players, Tech still mustered 0 ACC titles, only three victories over UGA (two of them ref-aided), two January bowls, and ONE ten-win season.

Even when you guys cheat, you stink at it!

By D Rad?

January 19, 2007 4:55 PM | Link to this

DRad? Yo ‘sup homey? Shut yo freakin’ piehole, stoopid bee.

By joe_h

January 19, 2007 5:23 PM | Link to this

JustMe,

Mathew at the SLC already gave you the facts when it comes to National Titles. UGA has two outright titles and 4 shared titles. Tech has no outright titles and 4 shared titles. Deal with it nerd.

By the way, you are also completely wrong on the numbers of SEC titles as each team has. UGA has far more SEC titles than Tech ever dreamed of having. UGA has 12 SEC titles. Do a little research and you’ll find out Tech doesn’t even come close.

As for academics, I’ve seen numerous interviews with Tech players, as well as what they’re majoring in. Trust me when I say Tech football players aren’t any smarter than UGA’s players.

By Historian

January 19, 2007 5:46 PM | Link to this

I know you guys don’t want to hear this, but I’m sure most of you have never actually gone to a blog (other than the AJC). I graduated from Tech, and both of my sons graduated from UGA. We manage to be competitive with our discussions of sports of both schools. Many times we don’t agree, but we also don’t talk put down trash of either school. A blog is suppose to be a place to bring facts, ideas, discussion of issues. Some of you guys have turned it into talking pure trash. That doesn’t represent an educated view, but instead a lack of education. Try something different; try to coexist recognizing that both schools will be here for a long time.

By joe_h

January 20, 2007 4:23 AM | Link to this

Sorry Historian,

That’s politically correct crap. Tech hates UGA and UGA hates Tech. It doesn’t matter where you and your sons went, that’s the way it is.

Besides, trash talking is a lot more fun.

By GTprof

January 20, 2007 9:09 AM | Link to this

The academic argument is absolutely ludicrous. Players at both schools have very bright student athletes as well as their share of well…not so bright students. I personally have taught both types at Tech, to include on the not so bright side, a QB,RB and 3 WRs that were part of one of Tech’s better recent teams. All of them were part of the ineligible crowd and only one of them had more than 2 years toward a degree when they should have been declared ineligible. So Tech fans. Give it up. Our guys across the board are equivalent to most NCAA schools.

By techaholic

January 22, 2007 10:39 AM | Link to this

I have met Chan, so what is that suppose to mean with regard to his coaching?

Chan has to be measured by his 5 year performance. Part of that performance is choosing a QB to run your offense. Part of the performance is coaching up that QB, or if that QB doesn’t cut it recruit or find someone else.

Chan NEVER did that. Chan in his mediocre arrogance stuck with Ball and never even tried to make a change like good coaches would do. He gave Bennett a chance to play against Conn. when Ball was sick. Bennett did a nice job considering he had no idea until game time he was going to get the start.

Chan Gailey’s arrogance in sticking with a QB who never got better from year one is a very telling tale of a coach who is out of sync and thinks more about himself than this program.

I was shocked that the Dolphins would want this NFL retread but I was happy they were willing to make the same mistake Tech did. In the end, the Dolphins weren’t as dumb as I thought and we’re still stuck with our mistake!

By John

January 22, 2007 3:35 PM | Link to this

Stop donating the the athletic fund. Stop buying season tickets. Definitely DO NOT buy any Bobby Dodd Club Seats and maybe they will finally get the message and can Chan. What does all this NFL stuff have to do with our AD firing him? He should have been fired after the UNC game and definitley after the UGA and Wake games.

By Fran

January 25, 2007 9:42 AM | Link to this

I thought that Chan was more successful when he was doing the play calling.I also sensed very early in this season that there was something going on with Ball in that he was not passing more to Calvin Johnson . Two more passes in the Notre Dame game and we would have won. Calvin proved later in the year that he could catch any ball regardless of the coverage.But for some reason Reggie did not give him the toss enough. Tech also needs to learn that the long ball is not the only road to success , short in and out for 12-15 yards will get you there in a safer way.This is especially true if your QB is not accurate. Anyway Chan should have another challenge next year losing some prime talent but needing to have an equally or better year than ‘06.

By moc

January 25, 2007 12:42 PM | Link to this

By John

January 22, 2007 03:35 PM | Link to this

Stop donating the the athletic fund. Stop buying season tickets. Definitely DO NOT buy any Bobby Dodd Club Seats and maybe they will finally get the message and can Chan. What does all this NFL stuff have to do with our AD firing him? He should have been fired after the UNC game and definitley after the UGA and Wake games.

Damn John! That’s absolutely brilliant. Stop doing something that you already don’t do! That’ll show em.

 

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