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Chasing the Hokies
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Some might find it hard to believe after last Saturday, but Sports Illustrated still has the Jackets ranked in its Top 25.
But what I really want to talk about is one of CPJ’s comments at his Tuesday news conference: Tech can’t afford to lose another game. OK, not a shocker, but he was talking specifically about the conference race.
The loss to Virginia Tech still bothers him. CPJ said he gets excited about a win for 45 minutes, but the losses linger.
Especially that 20-17 loss, because of what it means in the Coastal Division race. The Hokies are 2-0, Tech is 2-1. Because of that head-to-head loss, the Jackets must win out and hope the Hokies lose twice.
While Virginia Tech has won five straight since losing its opener to East Carolina, the Hokies are still a very young team facing a difficult upcoming schedule.
Here’s what Va. Tech has left: Saturday night at Boston College (4-1)
Oct. 25 at Florida State (4-1)
Nov. 6 vs. Maryland (4-2)
Nov. 13 at Miami (3-3)
Nov. 22 vs. Duke (3-2)
Nov. 29 vs. Virginia (3-3)
The Hokies certainly could lose two of their next four, couldn’t they?




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Comments
By Newnan Jacket
October 15, 2008 8:22 AM | Link to this
I see at least two losses in their remaining schedule. BC is going to handle them and win a close game. Florida State is going to give them fits, and will pull it out in the end. Maryland? Who knows. Maryland could win the game, but then they could lose it in spectacular fashion as well. Miami has a few good games in them and can put together one good win, but I don;t think it will be against VT. Duke ain’t gonna do anything. UVa is in the same boat as Duke.
Of course, this is all meaningless if GT can’t win out. I think they can, but I don’t think they will. There just isn’t a comfortable win in the rest of the schedule.
By Brad
October 15, 2008 8:25 AM | Link to this
Certainly it’s possible they could lose two games, but not very likely. They need to be the victim of a bad call, and they always seem to be the beneficiary.
By Jack G
October 15, 2008 9:00 AM | Link to this
Why all the speculation???? It all comes down to what happens, not what we want to happen. It is what it is and will be what it will be. Just win and let the rest take care of itself.All of the speculation is just so much BS Shows you dont have much to write about—-stop grasping at straws top fill space.
By mountain fan
October 15, 2008 9:02 AM | Link to this
Even if VT wins the Coastal, when Tech wins many more….I’m a happy fan!
…agree with Brad….not likely they will lose two. But, Go BC!
By Brewer
October 15, 2008 9:11 AM | Link to this
but the losses linger.. Huh? What losses? And yes, the one loss does really hurt. One reason is that GT was the better team that day, in spite of the turnovers. Another is that VT benefited from questionable calls. ‘Horse Collar, uh, no wait, Hit Out of Bounds, no, uh wait…. HELMET TO HELMET! That’s the ticket! 15 YD PENALITY, FIRST DOWN!’
VT is not a great team, so it’s possible that they’ll lose two, but I’m not holding my breath.
By NYJacket
October 15, 2008 9:19 AM | Link to this
Don’t agree that the Hokies will lose two.
Actually, they could very well win them all.
Beamer is a great coach that has his team well disciplined and executing well as the season moves along.
If they get past BC and Fla. State there isn’t much to stop them.
Georgia Tech had better worry about Clemson.
By Red Fox
October 15, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this
I am not worried about VT right now, although I do think they lose two more.
The Jackets just need to take care of the football and wins will come. Either way, any Jacket fan that won’t take a 9 - 3(ish) type season, regardless of the bowl we go to is crazy. If things don’t work out for Tampa, I’d love a shot at an SEC team in the Peach Bowl.
By Old GT Nut
October 15, 2008 9:24 AM | Link to this
VT is the luckiest team is the ACC right now. If not for TO’s and penalties, VT would have lost to bth GT and UNC.
GT TOs & penalties saved it for VT. UNC QB going down when UNC was winning 17-7 in 3rd Qtr and backup QB throwing 2 INTs in 4th Qtr also saved it for VT.
Stats dont guarantee anything, but usually teams with better stats finish on top with W&Ls. So far, VT stats in most aspects are much weaker than those of GT, FSU, MD, and BC, and VT has 3 of these teams ahead.
If GT takes care of their own business, the other ACC teams will take care of VT. Tampa here we come!!
By BuzzFactor
October 15, 2008 9:31 AM | Link to this
We’ll be watching to see what VT does, but we can only control ourselves. Let’s go beat Clemson.
By BuzzFactor
October 15, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this
oh and FYI, Vegas has BC -2.5
By wes king
October 15, 2008 9:38 AM | Link to this
I’m thinking they will…VT has got’n by on about 3 games this yr on luck. That luck has gotta run out soon.
By GTinNashville
October 15, 2008 9:52 AM | Link to this
Hey guys, let’s look at it this way: If GT and VT both win out, sure, VT goes to the ACCCG, but at 11-1 GT could be the first BCS at-large from the ACC. Even better, if VT does lose 2, GT could actually be in the hunt for the NC!
Yes, I am drinking the kool-aid, at least until Saturday.
By ben
October 15, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this
It’s a little early in the Paul Johnson era to be thinking about championships. Getting out of the blue field bowl would be enough for me.
By Jamie
October 15, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this
So much whinning from GT fans about bad calls and lucky breaks for VT. Get over it. The penalties at the end of the game were legit, but could have easily not been called. That’s football (college and pro). VT plays smart, tought, disciplined football, but that was not always the case. They have had their share of bad calls go against them over the years. Beamer runs a good program and so does CPJ. Let’s enjoy the rivalry and stop crying over teams with lesser stats like that means anything at all. VT may lose 2, or more, or less. GT needs to take care of its own business and see what happens.
By Walt Whitman
October 15, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this
Jamie. To say that the helmet to helmet contact call at the end of the VT game was legit is ridiculous.
By ga_tech_92
October 15, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this
GT needs to worry about Clemson. The Tigers will playing with their tails on fire. Jackets better get ready to sting ‘em!!
By yellowblood
October 15, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this
I’ve never chased a “hokie” but i’ve seen a few at our Tickle Piles!
By Dwayne
October 15, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this
The helmet to helmet was legit. I could not see it live (players were in the way) but I heard it from my seat and said “helmet to helmet”. I saw on the replay that I was correct. It was not a cheap shot but it was helmet to helmet and I am sure the ref heard it as well as I did from 15 rows up.
By r@mblinwreck
October 15, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this
This talk about winning out seems absurd at this point in the season when we are just about to hit the meat of our schedule.
We need to take care of business every week, forget about who’s next, forget about VT. The polls, bowl games, and championships will take care of themselves.
By jabster
October 15, 2008 10:56 AM | Link to this
Folks:
Let’s not talk about the officials. It all comes out in the wash—we’ve had our share of lucky breaks, too. The record book isn’t going to change.
1 priority this week is Clemson. Period.Let’s hope that BC beats VT, but we can’t do anything about that.
I see VT winning out more easily than Tech, but both teams could easily lose a couple. I predict two losses from among UGA, FSU, and UNC.
Our easiest remaining games—and I use that term very loosely, as they both still count as W’s or L’s and both games are perfectly losable—are UVA and Miami. We have them both at home and despite intermittent successes, both are struggling.
FSU will be tough, and so will UNC be if they stay healthy enough. Then there’s UGA…
GT in Nashville: You’ve got a barrel of rum in that Kool-Aid. There’s no way we could figure for a national championship—not even with a LOT of help.
A BCS at-large is more possible, but again, it would require us to win out and also get a lot of help from others, both in terms of losses by possible other at-larges and SoS boosting wins by our opponents and their opponents, not to mention more love in the human polls.
By hokey-pokeys will LOSE
October 15, 2008 11:03 AM | Link to this
Virginia Tech will be 8-4 ..(5-3 in ACC). …………………………………………….GEORGIA TECH …11-1 OR 10-2..(7-1 IN ACC)
By Old GT Nut
October 15, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this
Reviewing the stats aint whining. Stats are facts, just as W&Ls. Stats show the “direction” a team is going in.
VT’s overall stats are trailing behind most of the teams in the conference at this stage. So something’s gonna give: either the stats start to improve, or the W&Ls will start to change.
Example: Vandy was 5-0, but had the worst Off & Def stats in the SEC. Watch how the losses will now start piling up for 5-1 Vandy.
Example: UVA in 2007, played “on the edge” all year with questionable stats, including QB that did a lot of running, kind of like VT this year. However, close win vs. MD was a prelude to losses to NC State and VT which wrecked their ACC-Coastal shot.
In ACC conference play, somebody’s stats are going to start getting better, and somebody’s are going to start getting worse.
UVA: getting better. WF: getting worse FSU: Getting better Clemson: Getting worse GT: Getting better BC: Getting better MD: Getting worse
By MidnightRambler
October 15, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this
Brad wrote: “They need to be the victim of a bad call, and they always seem to be the beneficiary.” I concur completely. In the last game we won with Calvin Johnson when we got way ahead, the refs tried every way possible to get VT back in the game. I disagree with Dwayne. I thought the helmet-to-helmet call in the game this year was a borderline call at best using DVR and Slo-Mo replay. It cost us the game together with our turnovers.
VT is good and lucky. I’ll keep my fingers crossed that they lose two, but it isn’t likely. What is even less likely is that the Jackets will win all their games with such a tough schedule ahead. We have a good shot if we stay healthy esp. at the QB position.
By ace
October 15, 2008 11:11 AM | Link to this
Wow, you GT fans are hilarious. You BARELY beat Gardner-Webb and some of you are thinking about contending for the MNC or even the ACC? Please, that gimmick office will go nowhere.
By Jack G
October 15, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this
I like CPJ and think he has really done a good job.t first i liked his offense, but i have mixed emotions right now. As i see it the 2 main weaknesses in his system is (1) lack of a decent passing attack and (2) the dependence on the quarterback. I mean that the quarterback is the key but unfortunatly you have to have a lot of them,——Last Sat was an example. CPJ’s system is murder on the quarterback. He gets hit every play and the injuries pile up.. With Nesbitt and Jaybo subject to going down with injurie from constant hits look out. Example Last Saturdays debacle with Booker.
By w7coyote
October 15, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this
I would say lucky is beating an opponent that has more first downs, longer time of possession and more total yards.
Lets review Garner Webb
Team Stat Comparison
1st Downs 14 9 Total Yards 227 199 Passing 153 120 Rushing 74 79 Penalties 6-50 6-48 3rd Down Conversions 5-18 4-14 4th Down Conversions 0-1 1-2 Turnovers 1 3 Possession 32:37 27:23
Air/Ground Leaders
Gardner-Webb Passing C/ATT YDS TD INT Campbell 10/13 116 0 0 Doolittle 4/9 37 0 1 Georgia Tech Passing C/ATT YDS TD INT Booker 3/11 120 1 1
Gardner-Webb Rushing CAR YDS TD LG Peoples 17 53 0 12 Montgomery 11 27 0 9 Georgia Tech Rushing CAR YDS TD LG Booker 19 35 0 12 Dwyer 16 27 0 7
Gardner-Webb Receiving REC YDS TD LG Collins 7 97 0 26 Patmon 1 26 0 26 Georgia Tech Receiving REC YDS TD LG Dwyer 1 79 1 79 Thomas 2 41 0 35
Scoring Summary SECOND QUARTER GWU GT TD 11:24 Jonathan Dwyer 79 Yd Pass From Calvin Booker (Scott Blair Kick) 0 7 FG 04:25 Scott Blair 29 Yd 0 10 THIRD QUARTER GWU GT TD 07:45 Brandon Jackson 8 Yd Run (Ryan Gates Kick) 7 10
Photo Wire Georgia Tech quarterback Calvin Booker, left, is sacked by Gardner Webb linebacker Jeffrey Williams (9) and… (AP Photo/John Amis) · View Photo · Photo Gallery Associated Press ATLANTA — Derrick Morgan tipped a 43-yard field goal attempt by Gardner-Webb’s Ryan Gates with three seconds left, helping Georgia Tech squeak out an unexpectedly difficult 10-7 victory on Saturday over an FCS opponent.
Despite boasting a ground game that ranked fifth in the nation, the Yellow Jackets (5-1) rushed for just 79 yards, nearly 210 under their average as third-string quarterback Calvin Booker struggled with his
By willie
October 15, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this
Let me guess, Ace…you’re a UGA fan. Read the UGA articles and stay off the GT ones. And by the way, what is a “gimmick office”. Nice.
By ace
October 15, 2008 11:52 AM | Link to this
Willie-
When was the last time GT was considered relevant by the national media? Was it when you guys LOST to Wake Forest? GT will forever be the doormat to the REAL college football programs like UGA.
That offense you guys have is so horrible and boring. Good luck recruiting NFL type players who want to be part of that garbage.
By BuzzFactor
October 15, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this
hey w7coyote, just paste a freaking link next time instead of cut and paste… you dork! we are all well aware of how the Jackets played with the 3rd and 4th string QBs.
By Dwayne
October 15, 2008 11:57 AM | Link to this
Good calls and bad calls go both ways through the season. Right now I think GT and VT with UNC are the 3 best teams in the conference and could all win the ACC but I will take VT given the obvious lead. Final comment (from me) on the helmet to helmet, IF I had not heard so clearly the helmet to helmet sound I would have thought the call and/or replay could go either way. My point is that the sound made the decision easy. You would not have the same sound with pad on pad or pad on helmet.
By CW
October 15, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this
I don’t buy any of this about VT being lucky. Beamer and Bud Foster are really good coaches who have built a very solid program. They aren’t as dominant this year, but they are still the team to beat in the ACC.
The VT game is galling for Johnson because Tech was so close to stealing a win in Lane Stadium. Seems to me that VT has begun to progress on offense and are likely a better team today than when Tech played them.
If the Jackets play up to their talent and potential, they may well win out the remaining schedule. However, this is still such a young team and very thin at so many key positions.
It is certainly possible, but not likely that VT will lose two and Tech will win out. The head-to-head win in Division is just huge to overcome.
By gt_thwg
October 15, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this
ace - fitting name for a mutt. I don’t care about getting NFL caliber players…I want to win our games, not NFL games. Keep running your mouth, you bandwagon fans always do. Go ahead and start buying up the Texas burnt orange garb cause you’ll be jumping off the UGA bandwagon soon enough.
By ken sugiura
October 15, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this
to get back to the question at hand, it’s hard to see Virginia Tech losing two, but Old GT Nut makes a good point (although I’m not ready to pronounce VT the “luckiest team in the ACC). The Hokies are No. 7 in both scoring offfense and defense. They’re likely not going to win many games handily, which increases the likelihood that they’ll slip up. But for them to do it twice seems unlikely. And even then, Tech would have to win out in the ACC, which I’m not counting on, either.
Two points about the Jackets-Hokies game. Tech could have won the game if it hadn’t fumbled. Let’s not pin this one solely on the refs. Second, as unfortunate as Tech was in losing to Virginia Tech, you could say the Jackets were just as fortunate to beat Boston College.
By jabster
October 15, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this
Folks:
Let’s not talk about the officials. It all comes out in the wash—we’ve had our share of lucky breaks, too. The record book isn’t going to change.
1 priority this week is Clemson. Period.Let’s hope that BC beats VT, but we can’t do anything about that.
I see VT winning out more easily than Tech, but both teams could easily lose a couple. I predict two losses from among UGA, FSU, and UNC.
Our easiest remaining games—and I use that term very loosely, as they both still count as W’s or L’s and both games are perfectly losable—are UVA and Miami. We have them both at home and despite intermittent successes, both are struggling.
FSU will be tough, and so will UNC be if they stay healthy enough. Then there’s UGA…
GT in Nashville: You’ve got a barrel of rum in that Kool-Aid. There’s no way we could figure for a national championship—not even with a LOT of help.
A BCS at-large is more possible, but again, it would require us to win out and also get a lot of help from others, both in terms of losses by possible other at-larges and SoS boosting wins by our opponents and their opponents, not to mention more love in the human polls.
By Born2Buzz
October 15, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this
VT might lose 2 but it’s not likely. But we must win out, because they are not going to lose more than 2. It all starts this weekend against Clempsin. Just like the rankings, if we keep plugging away and win games all the rest will take care of itself.
By East Cobb Hokie
October 15, 2008 12:56 PM | Link to this
Thank goodness these posts are not using the frequent comments about GT fan base being spread all over the US, and not having a place to “hide” student athletes. Most are intelligent posts, but some sound like 12 year olds. Glad Al Gore invented the Internet to give them a forum.
By GT Fan
October 15, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this
Everyone…VT is a big time program in the middle of the blue ridge mountains..they recruit very well and have perhaps the most rabid fan base anywhere in the country. If we could have a home field advantage like VT has, we’d be much better off. Beamer & Foster have built this into a hell of a program. So let’s quit with the VT stuff and start winning and start supporting this team with 50% of the passion the folks in SW Virginia have.
By Jacketboy
October 15, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this
While Tech has talent and coaching, the one thing they dont have is leadership. The offence does not have an undesputed leader with the QB changes that have had to be made recently due to injury. The defence has the Vets up front, but none in the LB core or the secondary. The real do or die will come when Sophmore and first year starter Josh Nesbitt has to step-up in a do or die situation. I want to see the Jackets become great, but none of this will matter unless someone steps up and takes control in the huddle and gains that respect. You see too much looking to the sideline at Johnson, when they should be looking at Dwyer or Nesbitt, even though they are both just sophmores. Once they step up in a critical situation and prove their leadership, we will be a championship caliber team
By AlabamaRamblinwreck
October 15, 2008 1:29 PM | Link to this
Folks, GT needs to worry about GT’s games, not VT’s games. Do I believe that VT could lose two? Of course I do, but it will not matter if we don’t win out in the ACC, and that will be tough. Especially if our offensive line does not step it up..
So, with that said:
Go Jackets!!
By StingDoc
October 15, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this
jabstersaid “Let’s not talk about the officials. It all comes out in the wash—we’ve had our share of lucky breaks, too.” Biased officiating is a big problem in the ACC, more so in basketball. If you document the close and bad calls over time, they do not usually balance out. I have done this. If you stick your head in the sand like an ostrich, the problem will never corrected.
By AGTFan
October 15, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this
There is nothing my team can do about VT. That ship has sailed. Focus on winning each remaining game and then we can pretend we’re UGA and start whining that we should be considered for the BCS NC because we only have one loss and the sun was in our eyes that day.
By StingerSplash
October 15, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this
You really want to see PJ anguish? Ask him about the 97 William and Mary game or the 97 Delaware game. I’ll put on money him still being burned up about those two losses. He prepares to win and expects to win. I’m glad we’ve got a coach now who does that.
By justafan
October 15, 2008 1:46 PM | Link to this
I think Coach PJ’s mind set is win one at a time. The rest will take care of its self but a little help wouldn’t hurt.
GO GT!!
By StingDoc
October 15, 2008 1:48 PM | Link to this
ace = a dawgfan who probably never went to any college, much less UGA ace, you can’t bring yourself up by pathetically trying to bring down those who are superior to you especially intellectually. Boasting about your recent “success” shows a complete lack of class. Tech’s football tradition over time is at least as “relevant” as Georgia’s and in some respects more so: 4 National Titles vs. 1, John Heisman, Bobby Dodd’s string of wins over the dawgs, etc. Go back to the dawg blog, although I doubt you are welcome there either.
By fred
October 15, 2008 1:54 PM | Link to this
Tech has ZERO CONTROL over another team’s performance UNLESS WE ARE PLAYING THAT TEAM.
WIN ONE GAME AT A TIME and , guess what, GT will have a darn good record come late November.
Give ‘em hell Jackets!
By Born2Buzz
October 15, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this
I posted this on Tony Barnhart’s blog.
I wish I could say that the ACC had some and that GT was one of the REally Good Teams in college FB, but right now I can’t.
How close are we to being in the Pretty Good Level?
What do you folks think?
IMO, each major conference has levels of teams - 1)Really good teams, 2) Pretty good teams, 3) Decent teams and 4) Crap teams. Normally there are only a handful of really good teams out there. I’d say the PAC10 has 1 (USC) Big11 has 1 (PSU), Big 12 has 2(Texas and still OK), SEC has 2 (Fla & Bama - Sorry Dawgs but Fla so far looks best). ACC and BigEast have none.
How about pretty good teams? PAC - 2 (Cal & Ore), Big11 - 2 (Ohio St. & Mich St), Big 12 - 4(Missou, Okie St., TexTech, Kansas), SEC - 2(UGA, LSU), ACC-3 (VT, Wake & UNC-so far, GT hasn’t jumped over UNC yet but might soon), Big East - none (WVa, UConn, SoFla, Pitt & Cincy are close but I would put them in the Decent category). I’d say the PAC has 3 decent teams (Stanford, Oreg ST, Ariz) and 4 crap teams (UCLA, ASU, Wash & Wash ST), The Bigg 11 has 2 decent teams (MInn & Northwestern) and 6 crap teams (don’t need to list them all), The Big12 has 2 decent teams (Neb & Colo) and 3 crap teams, SEC has 5 decent teams (Vandy, SC, Auburn, Miss & KY) and 3 crap teams (sorry Tenn but you are there with Arkansas and Miss St this year). The ACC has 4 decent teams (GT, BC, FSU & Maryland - although any of these can jump to the pretty good category) and 5 crap teams ( although UVA is showing signs of moving into the decent category - Clemson just dropped to the crap list), and sadly the Big East is comprised of only 5 decent teams (see above) and 3 crap teams.
So from my analysis, the Big 12 has more really good and pretty good teams than the SEC and that makes them the stronger conference. Top to bottom, the SEC is better since the SEC crap teams are better than the Big 12’s.
My rankings of the confernces go Big 12, SEC, PAC, ACC, Big11 (sorry but one really good team doesn’t outweigh 6 crap teams) and at the bottom the Big East.
By jabster
October 15, 2008 2:39 PM | Link to this
Born2Buzz:
I think you have UNC overrated and/or Tech and FSU underrated…and that’s not considering that UNC has injury problems and FSU is on an upswing.
IMO Tech, UNC, and FSU are all on par with each other…although it will be interesting to see how UNC continues to perform with their injuries.
I’d put VT on the bubble for “really good”. VT might have put their “Chokie” game behind them early.
You might have SC and Auburn, as well as Maryland, overrated. The only thing keeping Auburn and SC from doing any worse are Tennessee, MSU, and Arkansas. I’d love to play Auburn or Tennessee in a bowl but they might not make it.
I’d put the ACC ahead of the Pac-10 but behind the SEC and Big 12.
By MisterT
October 15, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this
does anything matter this week beyond Clemson? I didn’t think so.
That is what happened last week. Letting an average FCS play us that close last week should not have happened even if we had lined Dwyer up at QB. The O-line didn’t block and the D-line was listless at best. Michael Johnson was just not himself Saturday. He and most ot the D-line were standing around with hands on hips. MJ is usually jumping around, running off the field…we should NEVER schedule FCS Schools.
I know GWU was a replacement, but it is a NO WIN situation playing them. You can’t beat them bad enough to matter and if you don’t you look bad.
THWClemson!
By ga_tech_92
October 15, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this
Yes there was helmet to helmet; however, our guy came in chest high….and the offensive player lowered his head…thus hitting our guys helmet.
Offense should have gotten the helmet call, not the D.
I’m not whining, just clarifying the issue. It’s over now. Watch the tape. Case closed.
By GT
October 15, 2008 3:46 PM | Link to this
Somewhere you got to remember we were out of the race before we started this year. You listened to every thing that would keep us from winning. I kind of hear the same thing with Matt Ryan and wondered who I saw in Atlanta last year that ripped us apart and how unremarkable Vick was when he played Tech or some of the other first round draft choices people were certain were sure winners unlike Ryan. People are always telling you something can’t happen and are shocked when common sense takes over and they are wrong. The same people now want to tell you what is wrong with a team they never believe in in the first place.
By gt_thwg
October 15, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this
SI gave us #80 to start the year off…we’re 5-1 heading into Clemson. They didn’t believe…
VT controls their own destiny. We need them to lose twice in games that we have no control in…could it happen? maybe. None of it matters if we lose this weekend, so let’s take care of our business first!
By brain-teaser
October 15, 2008 4:31 PM | Link to this
A successful season is like any puzzle…you solve it one piece at a time…Clemson is next.
By 1Jacket7
October 15, 2008 4:57 PM | Link to this
You people are funny. The only reason we are posting blogs here is Larry asked a question about VT losing two games. When people answer that question other people get mad because GT Fans aren’t focusing on Clemson. Lol. To answer the question, VT will lose 2 more games this year. The ACC is getting stronger as the year moves on. VT is limited by their personnel. Tyrod Taylor will face defenses that will force him to throw the ball. Their running game will be affected by the injury to their starting RB. BC, FSU both have the defenses to stop VT. The only question is whether they will score enough to win. I say yes. And of course we must get better and stay healthy every week to run the course of the schedule. Our defense ( Note the spelling folks) will keep us in every game we play. We (GT) just needs to focus on getting this offense (Note the spelling) back on track to put points on the board. I have always believed that if we put up 25 or more points a game it will be hard to beat us. I am optimistic that we will get this done. See all of you in Tampa. Maybe we can finally get people like Jack G and TampaJacket to finally believe in the program. Don’t get what people like you guys get out of being so pessimistic. Anyway Go Jackets!!!
By Anthem
October 15, 2008 5:00 PM | Link to this
Wouldn’t those 2 losses have to come against Duke, Virginia and Miami in order for Tech to make it the ACC championship game?
If VaTech loses to BC, Maryland and FSU, that’s nice and all, but it won’t put Tech ahead of VaTech in the division.
Ugh, one 3 point loss on the road early in the season, and our shot at the championship game looks out of reach. Disappointing.
By 1Jacket7
October 15, 2008 5:15 PM | Link to this
Born2Buzz you sure put a lot of work into that and I understand what you are trying to say. But, the base of your analysis is bias observation, which is dispelled by the quote “Any given Saturday”. Every week we listen to how some team or conference is better because of this and that. Then we go through a few games and everything changes. So those same people try to justify the cause. The fact is Missouri looks great. But they lost when they faced the most formidable opponent of the year. What does it tell us…nothing. If UVA played Okla St. who would win? The answer is you don’t know. The only true analysis you have is the outcome of a game and season played on the field. Then you can say this team or conference was the best that year and that year only. That is why the preseason polls are a joke. Because they base the Top 25 on last years opponents. So far we have seen how wrong the polls were and it will continue throughout the season.
By ............................................BuLLdawg
October 15, 2008 5:16 PM | Link to this
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Paul Johnson
Sir, you have a lot of balls talking about UGA today, telling us how a 5-1 UGA - who beat what will be 9-4 Steve Spurrier South Carolina and losing 2 weeks ago to # 2 Alabama, after we beat the Number 1 Defense in The SEC Tennessee vols 26-14 last week - while you beat Gardner-Webb by 10-7 at your home, means to you Paul Johnson that Tech should be ranked too like 5-1 UGA.
Gardner-Webb beat Tusculum and Austin Peay and LOST to Tennessee State, Sam Houston State, Charleston Southern and WAIT FOR IT NOW - Georgia Tech.
On this game’s “accomplishments” YOU PAUL JOHNSON want to tell UGA Fans who you do not play for EIGHT (8) weeks, two (2) months how Georgia Tech should be ranked like 5-1 UGA is.
Only, it is just the expectation of UGA that has US ranked and you NOT
YOU are FOS.
See your sorry little butts in 2 months, son.
Keep your PIE HOLE SHUT until you beat someone like 9-4 South Carolina.
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By 1Jacket7
October 15, 2008 5:19 PM | Link to this
I think you are right Anthem.
By GTYJ
October 15, 2008 5:20 PM | Link to this
Anthem, it is conference record that matters not division.
at least not until the tie breaker.
By ............................................BuLLdawg
October 15, 2008 5:27 PM | Link to this
Maybe you would like to suggest who in the Living Hell Boston College or Duke has beat ?
By Denver Dawg
October 15, 2008 5:35 PM | Link to this
Tech has looked very good this season. You can give all the excuses you want (I should know, Georgia fans are the best at it), but your win over GW was scary. I went from truly believing Tech would win the ACC to thing WTF was that?? 62% of respondents on the GT Sports homepage still believe Tech will win the ACC after the ugly win. I’m not so confident anymore. I hope you do win out (except for against my Dawgs, of course) and win the ACC. I cheer on Tech whenever we’re not playing you. But I hope CPJ is not already teaching his team to play down to the competition - that’s one of Richt’s biggest faults.
By ............................................BuLLdawg
October 15, 2008 5:48 PM | Link to this
Denver Dawg,
Sir
Who in the hell has Paul Johnson beat in years and years ?
By Just the facts
October 15, 2008 6:12 PM | Link to this
Um…GT barely beats Garner Webb at home and you people are talking about winning out?
Come on guys. GT is on their third string QB. It isn’t gonna happen this year.
Although, GT fans should probably get used to trying to win with a third stringer, because that offense is made to get QBs hurt.
Seriously.
By BuLLhockey
October 15, 2008 6:12 PM | Link to this
Uhhhhh….South Carolina isn’t 9-4. Not this year, yet, anyway. In fact, if not for the Vols they just might be the worst team in the SECE.
By that logic Tech is 11-1, beat Wake in Tampa, and then won the O-Bowl to finish 13-1.
VT is a 2.5 point ‘dog to BC. Someone’s obviously impressed…someone who’s willing to put their money where said pie hole is.
By Buzzfan1936
October 15, 2008 6:25 PM | Link to this
The Jackets are ranked #17 in the Power Rankings per USA Today! Link:
http://sportsdirect.usatoday.com/Power-Ranking/NCAAF-Power-Ranking.
By Realist
October 15, 2008 6:41 PM | Link to this
They are not on their third string QB genius, Nesbitt and Shaw are cleared to play this weekend, so the offense should be up and running. Ignore the idiot UGA fans (as I’m sure none of those who posted nonsense trash talk attended UGA). He was trashing UGA, geez, he was illustrating a point about perception. I don’t think Paul Johnson is going to let them screw up like they did with GW. Booker is a good story, but he can’t run that offense. They certainly can win out if they play to their potential. And they may not. Either way, we’ve already exceeded expectations. UGA better get their O-line situation in order by thanksgiving, or they’ll see Knowshon going knowwhere.
I think Alabama handled the hype and bulletin board material just fine.
By GT GRAD
October 15, 2008 6:43 PM | Link to this
I am VERY surprised no one on this blog has mentioned the following:
GT was 3 for 5 passing for 60 yards and 1 TD against VT (these stats are fairly close anyway) until the last desperation drive……….if GT had not been SO determined to run the ball when VT was selling out completely to stop the run, we would have probably won the game even with the BAD referee calls and 3 turnovers!!
Oh well, we should not cry about what could have been and we cannot change the past; however, I sincerely hope Coach PJ realizes very soon that GT can be successful in the passing game and we need to pass the ball 12-15 times each game to “keep the opposing defense honest” and take advantage of the opportunities.
I am excited about the future at GT!
By Buzzfan1936
October 15, 2008 7:05 PM | Link to this
I agree with GT Grad that we need to pass more, but only if the triple option is being stopped. We shouldn’t wait until the 2nd half as we did against Duke.
It’s great to have Nesbitt and Jaybo back along with AJ and Jeffries. Peeples and Kelley are out, however, and we need depth at running back. Hopefully, Wright has improved enough in practice to be a positive factor.
By GoodWord
October 15, 2008 7:17 PM | Link to this
Hey BuLLdawg, way to totally twist what the article is about. CPJ said nothing about the fact that TECH should be ranked where UGA is. You are such a meat head! Go away! Fact is everyone was talking smack about the ACC when Wake barely beat Ole’ Miss and then all of a sudden Ole’ Miss beats UF in the swamp and that’s just because the SEC is sooooooo strong. BS. Same with Miss ST. The hold AU to a field goal with their tough SEC defense and then TECH runs up 38 points with a freshman QB and all of a sudden they are a bottom dweller of your beloved conference, until they magically beat Vandy. I’m sure now everyone is saying that Vandy really isn’t that good. I bet that will change soon after they go to Athens and lay some smack down.
By brain-teaser
October 15, 2008 7:26 PM | Link to this
1Jack7 you are a funny guy. re: offense (note the sp)…….then….we just “needs” to focus….
Funny man!
ps—we’re not mad psps…In my time, that one mistake would be a letter grade!
By Buzzfan1936
October 15, 2008 9:07 PM | Link to this
WHY ARE THE DAWGS SO UPSET? Here is coach Johnson’s exact quote:
What about that statement is not valid? Right now, the media perception for the SEC may be too high and for the ACC may be too low based on preseason expectations and games in week 1. Look at Miss. State. After they held Auburn to a 3-2 win, the press said how tough they were. After Tech walloped them, many, esp. Dawg fans, came on Tech blogs to claim Miss. State was a bottom feeder. Then they knocked off 5-0 East SEC Division leader, Vandy, and there was silence.
By ............................................BuLLdawg
October 15, 2008 9:20 PM | Link to this
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13-1 Tech fans ?
(both of you)
Georgia Tech is not in the Top 25 of the USA Today Coaches’ Poll.
Not in the Top 25 of the AP Poll
Not in the Top 25 of the BCS Poll at www.CollegeBCS.com
Not in the Top 25 of the Harris BCS Poll.
Not in the Top 25 of the Anderson-Harris Seattle Times Poll
Not in the Top 25 of the Wes Colley unbiased Poll.
UGA, however is in the Top 10 of every single solitary Poll.
And, your worthless Coach who has not EVER beat ANY Team ranked in ANY Poll, opens up his PIE HOLE and argues Tech should be ranked at 5-1 having beat no team any where near as good as South Carolina who WILL BE 9-4 this season, after he beats GARDNER-WEBB by a friqing field goal at home 10-7, since Tech is the same as UGA.
Tech plays a far easier schedule strength than UGA, and Tech has beat and will have beaten NO ONE.
Not 1.
And, why is that ?
Because Tech is Number 111 in Passing Offense.
Number 63 in Scoring Offense.
Number 112 in Kick-off returns.
Number 50 in Turnover Margin.
Number 43 in Sacks Allowed.
Number 46 in SoS.
And, Tech plays in a conference of nothing but cupcakes with NO GOOD TEAM in the entire conference.
Not 1.
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By STING TIME!!!
October 15, 2008 9:45 PM | Link to this
yeah, I’d say ………….BuLLdawg is an idiot.
Paul Johnson was talking about perception; geez, GA fans are so moronic sometimes.
He [Paul Johnson] made a great point about it too …. about how when Ole Miss goes to Wake and loses they are at the bottom of the SEC. But when Ole Miss then goes to Fla. and wins it’s all about how balanced & deep the SEC is. And like PJ said, you can’t have it both ways!
So with that being said, BuLLdawg, just which is it when evaluating the Miss St bulldogs … are they the great balanced & deep SEC team with a stout D that held Auburn to 3 points, went to LSU and arguably played closer than the 34-24 final score, beat and undefeated, 13th ranked Vandy team, or are they the SEC’s bottom feeder b/c GaTech beat the living $* out of them!? You tell me genius, b/c this ain’t burger king - you can’t have it both ways.
**P.S. to all Ga Tech fans: isn’t it funny how when GA beats someone how good that opponent suddenly becomes …. well, the last time I checked both Ariz St AND Tenn were 2-4. Yeah, those teams are AWESOME!
Let’s see … GA had 3 players have career games vs. ASU (Stafford, Moreno, & Green), played a crappy PAC-10 (as SEC folks say) team that was without a running game, with the weak link of the team being the O-line and its issues pass blocking, but still only managed to win 27-10??? A great team wins that one 47 or 57-10 in that scenario. Now, b/c GA beat them Tenn has the best D in league … then how are they 2-4 with a LOSS to another crappy PAC-10 team (UCLA)?? WOW, I’d say perception has a lot to do with that.**
moronic, moronic, moronic ……
By STING TIME!!!
October 15, 2008 10:04 PM | Link to this
To Buzzfan 1936 …. you were asking why GA fans are so upset?
See the last three words of my previous post.
And also notice just how much attention “BuLLdawg” pays to the GaTech blog … his first posts started around 5pm, and they are still coming at 10pm!
By GTYJ
October 15, 2008 10:09 PM | Link to this
4 scoring defense (31) 6 total defense (15) 5 passing defense (82) 1 tackles for loss (57) 7 Sacks (38)Hey bulldawg, you are an SEC guy, so you obviously hold defense higher then Offense right. Tell me, how do those numbers look? SEC quality?
Guess who that is bro. GT. Parentheses is UGA. They don’t quite stack up now do they.
To put that into perspective. UGA is gaining 5 more points on average then GT. UGA is giving up 8 more points on average then GT. Take that in bro, and do the math.
Oh and quite saying GT hasn’t beaten anyone unless you can name a good team UGA has beaten. Oh and sorry, as much as you want them to be, USCar is not a good team.
By jabster
October 15, 2008 11:20 PM | Link to this
This is interesting…
Opening line for Tech-Clemson was Clemson minus 2. It is now Clemson PLUS 2 or 2.5. Remember home field advantage is traditionally a field goal.
Opening line for VT-BC was BC minus 2. It is now BC minus 3 or 3.5.
Vandy is a 15 point ‘dog. I’ll be pulling for UGA but that line sure makes it tempting to take Vandy and the points.
Nevermind what I said about Tech-Duke.
By jabster
October 15, 2008 11:40 PM | Link to this
Soooo, SC is going to be 9-4 because they beat, let’s see…
NCSU (the worst team in the ACCA) Wofford (just moved up from DII to FCS) UAB (one of the worst teams in FBS) Ole Miss (I’ll give you that one) Kentucky (probably the second worst team in the SECE)
and has the following games coming up: LSU (no way they win this one) Tennessee (worst team in the SECE) Arkansas (worst team in the whole SEC) Florida (see LSU) Clemson (another L for the Cocks)
and, I guess, go to and win a bowl (Shreveport?) against who knows who.
We could talk all day about whether or not they beat Clemson to get the 8th win. But a team whose W’s have included or would include:
NC State Wofford UAB Kentucky Tennessee in a rotten year Arkansas Clemson in a rotten year
is not necessarily a good team by virtue of those victories. Let them beat Florida or LSU and we will talk.
Up until the G-W game, Tech’s SoS was better than UGA’s according to Sagarin. Since Sagarin adds in games as they are played, Tech’s SoS took a hit when we played G-W but everything prior to that was tougher than UGA’s.
By ............................................BuLLdawg
October 16, 2008 2:19 AM | Link to this
Georgia Tech is not in the Top 25 of the USA Today Coaches’ Poll.
Not in the Top 25 of the AP Poll
Not in the Top 25 of the BCS Poll at www.CollegeBCS.com
Not in the Top 25 of the Harris BCS Poll.
Not in the Top 25 of the Anderson-Harris Seattle Times Poll
Not in the Top 25 of the Wes Colley unbiased Poll.
Because Tech is Number 111 in Passing Offense.
Number 112 in Kick-off returns.
Number 50 in Turnover Margin.
Number 43 in Sacks Allowed.
Number 93 in Punt Returns.
Number 63 in Scoring Offense.
By ............................................BuLLdawg
October 16, 2008 6:04 AM | Link to this
Your SoS for Tech’s entire season, including all your scheduled games this season - according to the BCS SoS All Known Opponents is Number 45 this morning.
By ............................................BuLLdawg
October 16, 2008 6:08 AM | Link to this
Here is your URL Link to BCS SoS : http://www.CollegeBCS.com
Your Official NCAA SoS for all games All Known Opponents is Not in the Top 25 this morning, either.
http://web1.ncaa.org/mfb/2008/Internet/toughest%20schedule/fbs9gamescumm.pdf
By BuzzFactor
October 16, 2008 6:22 AM | Link to this
I agree, I wish we wouldn’t schedule any FCS teams or even those FBS teams that everyone thinks is FCS because we’ve never heard of them. NO WIN situation.
By FSG
October 16, 2008 5:01 PM | Link to this
Coach is right - we need to win out to have a shot at the division.
I’d be happy in the Gator Bowl at 11-1, though.
By Fred
October 16, 2008 6:27 PM | Link to this
The ACC is just one or two pillow fights away from anyone winning the conference and cheating themselves into a good Bowl Game.
There are at least 5 Georgia High Schools who could easily have a winning season in the ACC. Hell, Tucker could probably win the conference.