Tech

By Yakub

September 15, 2008 8:36 AM | Link to this

I believe we can throw it down the field, but not having Bebe really hurt our deep strike capabilities this past weekend. You have to keep in mind that both of our WR’s this weekend were freshmen, which could be the reason Josh had difficulty finding guys open deep toward the end of the game.

By gtforever

September 15, 2008 8:37 AM | Link to this

Well, let me think…………. Nope, not against D1 teams. GT can beat J State every time, but against good teams that will stop the run, we will lose. Sorry….

By wes

September 15, 2008 8:49 AM | Link to this

“gtforever”….we turned the ball over THREE times and still had a chance to win until the ref SCREWED us with that helmet-to-helmet nonsense.

This is the first time GT has averaged over 50% completion % since Godsey was here.

By GTNC

September 15, 2008 8:50 AM | Link to this

I take it when we passed 5/8 for 109 yards. If we completed the two other passed to Greg Smith and Roddy Jones, then it would be 7/8, ~200 yard. Remember when we do throw the ball, we are very efficient of doing it. The few things hurt us right now are turnover and penalty.

By GT45

September 15, 2008 8:57 AM | Link to this

No doubt the run sets up the pass. Every game there are guys running open in the opponents secondary, when we do pass. And when we connect, it’s usually for big yardage. We just have to connect. We beat VT in every category but turnovers. We can eat up the clock with the run, score points when we do pass, but we have to eliminate the turnovers. We have to get some, too!

By GT GRAD

September 15, 2008 9:02 AM | Link to this

I think we will eventually get better in all phases of this offense; however, our best games will be when we pass the ball 15-18 times.

This is enough to prevent our opponents defense from selling out to stop the run and ALSO take advantage of the defense when they “pause to take a quick look in the backfield”……this is when the big pass play can be very effective.

We missed an opportunity to steal a victory from VT because we did not call enough pass plays. VT sold out completely to stop the run and we did not make them pay!!!

By Wallace Butts

September 15, 2008 9:07 AM | Link to this

Blaming the refs for the loss is funny, but blaming the turnovers for the loss is ludicrous. Go back and watch Johnson’s offense at GSU, Hawaii, and Navy. The two common links? All those offenses gained a lot of yards…and all those offenses had a propensity to fumble. A lot. That’s just the risk that is involved with pitching it backwards and sideways et al. It just comes with the territory. So, go ahead and blame “turnovers” for the loss. But if it wasn’t for Johnson’s offensive scheme, this game wouldn’t have been close to begin with. Catch 22 if you will, but just the facts.

By Chris

September 15, 2008 9:10 AM | Link to this

Look at our stats vs VT and look at UGA’s stats vs SC. Does UGA’s offensive production look better on paper to you? The difference is the turnovers. PJ has said himself that there will be games where we throw it 30 times and games where we will throw it 5. Hell, last year we would throw it 25 times and only have 100 yds. I like this system. Maybe he’s not throwing as much b/c the line is having trouble protecting the passer…..wait a minute, he’s said that in his post game interviews already. That pass to Roddy Jones was inches from being a touchdown which would make this blog obsolete. Not to mention these guys on the team are buying in. They believe they can win every game, just listen to them.

By son_sir

September 15, 2008 9:16 AM | Link to this

gtforever.. A month ago we were all worried about how miserable Tech would look after the debacle of spring. Tech should be 3-0 and there is a great chance it would be, if not for the BS helmet to helmet call that kept a VT drive alive.
We were all talking patience a while back and now some fair weather fans are already questioning what we are doing.
This offense is still a long way from being “full throttle”, but it’s still hard to deal with for the opposition. D. Thomas not playing definitely limited the passing game, not to mention the great blocks he’s been making.
I hope BeBe is back this week along with the LB’s who were injured.
Progress is being made. You folks who think Rome was built in a day need to relax. CPJ (and Wommack I might add) has the team believing in themselves and getting more effort out of the Jackets than I’ve seen in quite a few years. Mistakes and turnovers are there. Too bad one of the most glaring mistakes was what I believe to be totally bogus. This is football. It’s not hard to tell the difference in incidental helmet contact and intentional. After all, there is helmet to helmet contact on almost every friggin’ play…..looked like a homer call if I’ve ever seen one.

By dawgy

September 15, 2008 9:36 AM | Link to this

I came on here to read about Johnson’s plans to expand the passing game, because I take a genuine interest (not like, but interest) in GT seeing as how I live in Atlanta. But, I’m telling you, if you guys don’t quit with the incessant whining about the “BS helmet to helmet” call then you’re just reinforcing the views that a majority of people have about you. Now you may care or you may not, but that’s just food for thought. And Georgia gave SC first downs on four separate occasions because of questionable penalties. Are we complaining about them? No. Georgia found a way to win. Good teams do. Then “BS calls” are moot.

By neil marlowe

September 15, 2008 9:54 AM | Link to this

Throw 12-15 times a game. You can’t come from behind at your own 20 with 4 minutes to play if you can’t throw the ball. And besides, Nesbitt is a good passer.

By exNFLplayer

September 15, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this

The refs cost you nothing wes. Bad calls are part of the game. You had 4:37 left on the clock to go back down the field to tie or win the game. 4:37 is practically all day. Turnovers beat you wes, pure and simple.

By DJ

September 15, 2008 9:58 AM | Link to this

Wallace Butts that “Catch 22” will lose you a lot of games at this level.

By Josh H

September 15, 2008 10:00 AM | Link to this

Dawgy, I find myself agreeing with you. By all intents and purposes, that helmet to helmet is a no call. But that’s not why we lost the game. That PF on Michael Johnson the next play turned a big loss into a big gain for VT. Those 3 turnovers (especially the one at the end of the first half) led to some easy VT points.

With that said, our team is looking much better than anyone could have expected at this point. We have a QB who has only started 3 games, 2 hurt starting linebackers, we were missing our #1 wide receiver in that game and we still could have taken the defending ACC champs. And we still haven’t found an Offensive-Line that can block yet. If we can get through this season without major injuries (ie Nesbitt and Dwyer), we’re still in the mix for an ACC championship or at large BCS bid.

I expect Tech to put up more than 3 points on Mississippi State. Heck, Lousinia Tech and our QB leftovers (Bennett) managed to put up 22…

By son_sir

September 15, 2008 10:01 AM | Link to this

Dawgy…. All the negative Dawg comments on your blogs aimed at your team’s weak effort against the chickens and the blasting of Willie M. pretty much confirms what the whole nation already knows….. Dawg fans are the undisputed kings of whining. Now go back to your kennel.

By jabster

September 15, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this

Dittos, dawgy. It’s Monday. Time to quit fussing about the refs.

I think we need to worry more about the stupid fumbles than the option-related ones.

I kinda sorta think we should have passed more…but at least we’re not throwing a bunch of picks and throwaways like we have done recently.

Throw it like you mean it. Don’t look like a Pop Warner team with a 10% completion rate when you do it. Remember, when you throw the ball, three things can happen and two of them are bad.

Anyone have the numbers on how many completed passes (straight up, not % complete) we’re making vs. last year or two?

By theDude47

September 15, 2008 10:15 AM | Link to this

Do you guys really only think we called 8 pass plays? We called pass plays quite often, just Nesbitt ended up scrambling instead. Our offensive line was getting manhandled most of the time and the receivers were covered pretty well. Nesbitt would have thrown more had he had more time and more receivers were open downfield.

By Tripp

September 15, 2008 10:19 AM | Link to this

Son_sir - Let me rephrase what dawgy said. The people who know tech fans think they’re the biggest whiners in the world. That’s the problem though. Not a lot of people know tech fans because they’re so scarce. And the opposing fans that witness this bellyaching from tech’s minute fan base just laugh it off as irrelevant. Tech isn’t a factor. Non-factors are rarely taken seriously.

By Geori

September 15, 2008 10:22 AM | Link to this

This is the stupidest article i’ve ever read. In game 2 versus BC, he attempts 13 passes but gets 36 less yards with one more completion— and that’s with our #1 receiver!!!

Against VT, Nesbitt goes 5/8 for 109 yards, with one of those passes hitting a receiver in the chest and you think he has to throw 12? I guess he shouldn’t have tucked and run a good 5 to 7 times, and just thrown a meager 15 passes. Then we wouldn’t have gotten many of his long runs, including the late TD.

Might as well bring back Patrick Nix and Taylor Bennett. We’d have a great season with many 13/40 passing performances. BUT WE’D NOT BE RUNNING IT EVERY PLAY!!! It would be alot more fun to watch games like our 9-6 loss to Wake Forest in the ACC CG. Who knows? This year our defense might bail us out and win 7 games, despite a meager throwing attack.

GET LOST HACK! Bring back Winkie!

By RAMBLE ON!!!

September 15, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this

dawgy thanks for calling the kettle black, Mr. Pot.

I’m still waiting for the fleabags to quit crying about ESPN not showing Knownothing hurdling a no name defender from a no name team.

By RAMBLE ON!!!

September 15, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this

trip you must be a total loser since you spend time on irrelevant teams blog.

Good luck with your GED, don’t give up on it!!!

By T-man

September 15, 2008 10:37 AM | Link to this

Something tells me that every time we lose there’s gonna be Tech fans among us that are going to ask if we shouldn’t have passed more? With this offense, I’m sure PJ has probably got use to the incessant questioning about the lack of passing. Until this team as jelled and especially until PJ gets the type of players that fit his offense better, I think it’s best to be patient and take a wait and see attitude.

I agree with those that are concerned about the contstant whining on the helmet to helmet penalty. Though Tech is a good team (better than most possible at this point), better teams win in spite of bad refereeing. Unfortunately, Tech’s margin of error right now is such that with the turn over ratio being what is and with some untimely penalties sprinkled in here and there, they’re gonna have a up hill struggle to win close games.

The good news is that in football as in most sports, things eventually even out. With CPJ and staff getting the most out of the available talent and the team believing they can win every game, better luck will come with more winning - not more whining. GO JACKETS !!!!

By dawgy

September 15, 2008 10:45 AM | Link to this

Ramble - we have conspiracy theorists, sure. But it’s a little different, no, a lot different to wish your best player gets more pub for an awesome display of athleticism, then to blame the refs for a loss in which your team had three turnovers. Name a game that Georgia has lost where we’ve (as a whole) blamed the refs. Sure, you’ll get some yahoos every once in a while blame the zebras, but it seems 2/3 of the posts on here are placing the blame squarely on the refs. All I said was that tech needs to quit whining. There won’t be a recall on the outcome of the game, no matter how shrill your cries get. Deal with it. Georgia dealt with it, persevered, and won their game, albeit not in a stylish manner. Time to act like you have a pair and move forward. Miss State will be no picnic, and if Johnson, the players, and you fans don’t get your heads out of your butts about the officiating, it’s gonna be a long afternoon with the cowbells.

By Ramblin Wrecker

September 15, 2008 10:51 AM | Link to this

I don’t have a problem with the number of times they have thrown it. In a conventional offense you could throw it 30 times and complete 15 of them and only gain 100-125 yards and not have a play over 20 yards long. But in this offense you can throw it 8 times and complete 5 of them for 100 yards, and be guaranteed that at least two of those were for huge chunks of yardage. That’s the beauty of this offense. All it takes is one missed assignment and one undisciplined player to take a triple option play to the house. And all it takes is one completed pass to take it to the house because of the overemphasis the defense puts on defending the run. I think GT missed Demaryius Thomas a lot on Saturday. Not only is he a nice receiver who forces the opponent to defend the edges, he also is a dynamic blocker downfield. His presence opens the middle of the field up for the A-backs to get open, allows Nesbitt/Dwyer/Jones/etc to get extra yards downfield by blocking well, and gives Nesbitt a receiver who can get open against anybody particularly in a pinch (like when Nesbitt was under duress).

By yellowblood

September 15, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this

Just wanted to thank all who came to the Tickle Pile despite the losing effort of the football team. We may have lost the game but as always we won the Tickle Pile.

By Idiots

September 15, 2008 11:05 AM | Link to this

Dawgy- there are 3 out of 22 posts on here that “blame” the loss on the h to h call and are whining. So you are slightly off with saying 2/3 of the posts on here are whining about the call. Most others are saying that we need to move on, and openly admit that the turnovers are what really hurt us. The dawg nation has more than a couple conspiracy theorists, ranging from not being in the NC game last year, to dropping to #3 this week (and for uga fans to call anyone whiners is laughable). Every team has their whiners. You have been on the gt blogs for 2 days now, complaining about the gt whiners. You are just trying to stir the pot, and it seems to me that you need to get a hobby and/or a job pal.

And by the way, are you trying to say that b/c a dozen posts on the gt blogs blame the refs, that the gt nation as a whole is placing blame squarely on the refs???? You gotta be kidding me kid. That is beyond stupid

By Tripp

September 15, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this

“Ramble ON” - I’ve seen your pathetic drivel on our blogs too. Talk about calling the Kettle black. How big of a hypocrite are you? Loser.

By dawgy

September 15, 2008 11:22 AM | Link to this

Idiots - nice handle by the way, it really expresses the dim view you have of everything. Nice. Ok, on to your response. I like to read about tech football, because they are our biggest rival, and I like to know what’s going on with them. That being said, I also continue to marvel at the responses of your fanbase. I continue to bring up the whining issue because the topic of this blog was about the GT passing game, or lack thereof, and posters immediately brought the whole “bad refs” whine session back. And I don’t feel like counting, but the blog from yesterday had to exceed 12 re: the refs. It dominated the discussion. Shame, seeing as how it was a well-fought game, and tech should take positives away from it, not make inane excuses like it would actually help matters. And thanks for saying I should “get a job,” because I enjoy reading the AJCx. Your hypocrisy knows no bounds.

By Bill Lumdawg

September 15, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this

Ramble On, didn’t I used to give you wedgies in gym class? I thought so. Now, back to your cubicle. I want those TPS reports. And coffee. Pronto. Chop chop.

By RAMBLE ON!!!

September 15, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this

trip…wow, drivel? I’m impressed, maybe you do have your GED. Sorry, please don’t cry, you’re breaking my heart.

dawgy, 0-14 3rd down conversion, zero points from the offense. That don’t scare me much. We got a pretty good defense too.

GT 24 Miss St. 6

By Paul Johnson

September 15, 2008 11:30 AM | Link to this

I’m gay.

By Gaybo Shaw

September 15, 2008 11:33 AM | Link to this

I would NOT have overthrown those WIDE OPEN receivers. I love going to wide open dudes. Paul Johnson obviously is discriminating against me because I live an alternative lifestyle. If he’s not careful, I’ll transfer somewhere a little more tolerant. I mean, they allow Al-Qaeda at GT, but a gay quarterback can’t get a fair shake. I will distract myself from discontent by cranking out some nake pushups. My naked pushups are the only things that keep me going. Well, that and gt’s proximity to Piedmont Park.

By Professor Literate

September 15, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this

“That don’t scare me much.” - ramble, the question should be, do YOU have your GED?

By RAMBLE ON!!!

September 15, 2008 11:49 AM | Link to this

ahh, come on tripp, time to pull out your “gaybo shaw, and Paul Johnson”. You’re a funny little tool.

Bill Lumdawg gets his material from 10 year old movies. Funny guy.

By Gaybo Shaw

September 15, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this

I am starting to lose patience with Paul Johnson. I would have already transferred to Middle Tenn. State (they wanted me!!!) if Coach wasn’t such a sexy beast. Maybe I’ll invite him to Blake’s at Piedmont for a mojito after practice today. I can tell him how much he is hurting my feelings! Then maybe we can knock out some naked pushups. Together.+

By Idiots

September 15, 2008 11:55 AM | Link to this

dawgy- that was yesterdays blog. If you want to continue commenting on it, then go onto yesterdays blog. Oh but thats not as fun right? You are just looking to agitate. This blog, the one we are on today, only has 3 whining comments about the call. You just read through each comment, hoping to find one that mentions the h to h, so that you can comment about the “entire gt nation blaming the refs”. Most fans are taking positives away from the game, and it is a shame that there are those that only complain about calls (probably b/c they don’t know anything about football). The fans were simply voicing their frustration, and now that everyone has cooled down some, we can look back on the game and see the bright spots, as well as the areas that need to improve (instead of just seeing the “what if” side of the game).

I say that you need a hobby b/c right now it seems that all you do is try to come in here and agitate gt fans by declaring them all whiners. And I think that “Idiots” describes most of the comments on both gt and uga blogs.

By ncjacket95

September 15, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this

Pro Style, Spread, or Option:

ONE FACT: Execution determines Results

-3 TO Margin will not win a lot of games.

By gtrugby

September 15, 2008 12:47 PM | Link to this

So getting back to actually talking about football…It did (and still does) seem to me that our O-line is having a hard time with the defensive tackles in particular. VPI’s tackles were lined up extremely close to the ball (it actually seemed like they were lined up off-sides or at least in the neutral zone) every time. Our defensive guys looked like they were at least a foot off the ball. I don’t know if this is just a difference in defensive schemes, but it seems like that caused a lot of the problems on Saturday.

By bankerdawg

September 15, 2008 12:48 PM | Link to this

Obviously, I’m a UGA fan and alum, but Tech people have to be pretty excited about what they are seeing. You ran for 280 yards, at 5.6 ypc and you’re asking if you are throwing it enough?

Strange.

I believe CPJ is extremely happy about the two numbers above, but the number he has got to be steamed about is three….i.e. the number of turnovers Tech had. Clean up that number, and Tech will be all kinds of trouble.

You guys will be fine once you run this offense a little more. With games against MSU, Garder-Webb, and Duke coming up, I would expect Tech to be much more efficient by the end of October and into November.

So to answer the question of the blog. Yes, Tech can win throwing the ball so rarely. In fact, at 5.6 ypc, I bet CPJ is wondering how the heck he even threw it 8 times.

GO DAWGS!

By GT45

September 15, 2008 1:10 PM | Link to this

Bottom line, we are moving the ball. Didn’t we just punt twice the whole game? Was it once the first game? I don’t know about BC, but I think it was a little more. But, compare that to last year! I don’t think anyone needs to question CPJ’s play calling. If we execute, we win. He expects nothing less out of himself than he does his players, and that is 100% effort. If you watch him during the game, that is what he gives. Unlike our previous coach.

By Born2Buzz

September 15, 2008 1:32 PM | Link to this

Yes the H to H penalty was a bogus call, but unbelievably dawgy is right. If we hadn’t had 2 fumbles, and interception, missed a wide open long pass, dropped another pass, had a face mask penalty, gotten an extra point blocked, etc, etc, then the H to H call doesn’t matter.

Re the point of the blog, I think we need to pass a little more, and I think we will, but as PJ has said, our line isn’t doing the job blocking, and missing our best WR hurt. Again, hitting the long pass and Greg Smith not dropping the ball would have had us 7/8 for about 200 yds. That and 280 ys rushing will win a lot of ball games.

I do know this, PJ is sure of himself and his system. And he’s very patient and will not resort to throwing it 30 times a game due to a few low scoring efforts.

By Wrecker1

September 15, 2008 1:43 PM | Link to this

Some of you people are completely clueless. We threw 15 times against JSU b/c Nesbitt and Shaw were being run out of the pocket about every third pass attempt. Against BC and VPI Nesbitt was getting pressure and picked up first downs running. As a matter of fact his TD run was a scramble off a pass. So using the rationale of you people, TECH would be in great shape if instead of running Nesbitt just threw the ball away and then we would have our 12-15 pass attempts a game. First we have to give the QB better protection. Secondly, it’s not how much you throw but how effectively you throw. Another point is the turnovers. Three TO’s in a game aren’t terrible but a minus 3 ratio of TO’s to take aways is. If we have about an equal ratio we will win most every time. Stick with Coach Johnson and these players, really good things are in store.

By What is a Yellow Jacket?

September 15, 2008 3:00 PM | Link to this

I think Georgia has beaten Georgia Tech 7 years in a row. Fact, or not a fact? Missy State-34, YellowMaggots-14….p.s.- Ramble On is “compensating”, please forgive him his impotent outbursts.

By CarterS

September 15, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this

Wallace,

Are you still the womanizing drunk you were when you were alive?

Thought so.

By The Big Bug

September 15, 2008 3:13 PM | Link to this

I stood in the rain in Sanford while Ivery, Myers, Rucker & Sims ran wild in the mud & goo but I don’t think they turned the ball over this much. Put some stick-um on their hands. The helmet call: BS is BS.

By GTornado

September 15, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this

Wallace Butts,

Have you actually looked up the numbers for turnovers at Navy and GSU?

If not, you might be surprised to learn that GT’s offense turned the ball over more than Navy’s did in the last five seasons. And a lot more of GT’s turnovers went the other way for scores. Navy did not actually turn the ball over all that much.

Navy did fumble more than most teams, but they threw far fewer interceptions. You don’t throw many INT’s when you only throw it 10 times a game.

IIRC 2002 Navy had an incredible 35 turnovers — 25 fumbles and 10 INT’s.

But things got a lot better starting in 2003, and they never had that kind of fumbleitis again. We’ll see the same trend at GT as the offense improves.

By Tom

September 15, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this

GOOD post, banker! Excellent points.

GO JACKETS!!

By AC

September 15, 2008 3:17 PM | Link to this

RAMBLE ON is not known as being the dumbest MF on this blog without good reason What is a Yellow Jacket. He’s using SC/UGA results to form his flawed logic so we need to help him out. Last year SC beat UGA 16-12 and UGA beat the trade school 34-17. This year UGA wins 14-7 therefore using RAMBLE ON’s 3rd grade logic UGA should probably take Tech by let’s say 42-10. Using RAMBLE ON’s predictors that should be right on the money. LMAO!

By ss

September 15, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this

Even if Tech is successful winning the majority of their games this year and beyond the option offense Paul Johnson runs is simply not very appealing to me. GT QB, Jaybo Shaw, said he fit right in with the offense because he ran it in High School. Does passing the ball two times a quarter on average make for exciting football? Not sure how much it will inspire the fanbase. Will it draw top level recruits? Would be curious to know if Dwyer would of signed with Tech had he known he would be in this offense.

By NYJacket

September 15, 2008 3:19 PM | Link to this

Of course PJ can win throwing the ball as much or as little as he likes. What a stupid question!!!

By Coach Alex

September 15, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this

“Better to die a young child than to fumble this football”

By Sam

September 15, 2008 3:28 PM | Link to this

So what happened Saturday NYJacket? Tech had 4:37 to tie or win the game after VT’s go ahead FG. PJ couldn’t win it throwing or running. This offense has some severe limitations and they will become more and more obvious as time goes by and the opposition gets tougher.

By Wallace Butts

September 15, 2008 3:39 PM | Link to this

Carter: I still hang out with Bear Bryant on occasion, and we still agree that Booby Dodd was an arrogant, overrated hypocrite. We still won’t go to tech fans because of flying whiskey bottles. Thanks, classy tech fans.

GTornado: I did not look up the statistics, but I went to several games coached by Johnson when he was at both the Academy and the ‘Boro, and I noticed that the ball was on the ground an inordinate amount of the time. I have no doubt you are correct about the low pass/interception ratio, but the handful of games I went to CPJ’s teams fumbled what seemed like 5-6 times per game. Don’t remember how many of them they recovered.

By RAMBLE ON!!!

September 15, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this

AC “RAMBLE ON is not known as being the dumbest MF on this blog without good reason What is a Yellow Jacket.”

u b kalling me dumb??????????????????????,

…and when did I refer to UGAG/SC??????

The only reference I made was to Miss St. Auburn, moron. He he haw haw.

Let me break it down for you, you see, we play Miss. St. next week.

Ok, tripp, AC, gaybo shaw, Paul Johnson, what’s your next name going to be…yellowblood again?

By Ramble ON!!! is a douche

September 15, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this

ha ha, suck it!!! Nice loss losers!!!

By Gaybo Shaw

September 15, 2008 3:53 PM | Link to this

Ramble ON, did you ask for me? Calm down honey, I was just busy doing naked pushups. You should come out of the closet already and join me. Up, down, up, down,…

By NYJacket

September 15, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this

Sam,

OK, what offense do you run? You are the man.

And, by the by Coach Gailey ran a pro style throwing offense for 7 years and for 4 of those years he had the best receiver in college football.

I got it. We hire Urban Myer away from Florida. Or, maybe we go get Rich Rod from Michigan - he will be available soon. Or, maybe you like Weiss from Notre Dame?

As for me, I am quite satisfied that we have one heck of a coach and I am going to enjoy watching him WIN.

By TiftonJ

September 15, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this

For all of the questioning about running and passing, try this on. VT knew we were going to run it and then run it more, and we still put up almost 300 yards in running alone (387 total yards). Say what you want, but I like a leader who says here is what we are going to do now stop us, and VT didn’t do a very good job of it. For those who want to question PJ, I would ask if you would like to see CG came back. I myself would like to see us throw more on 1st Down to back up the Strong Safety, but give the man and this team their due. VT knew what we were going to run all day and we still almost put up 400 yards of Offense. The last piece for a young team is learning how to close out games like Saturday. Also, give credit to a D that many were worried about in August. Plus we were missing 2 starting LBs and most of the defensive backfield was playing high school football 12 months ago. I am amazed at the ability of this staff to get walk-ons and a number of true Freshman to play at the level they are. PJ has this team headed in the right direction and will be there on Sat letting this team know how much I appreciate the effort and play through the first 3 games…

By CarolinaJacket

September 15, 2008 4:03 PM | Link to this

A question for Sam. Might not a large part of Tech’s offensive problems be the o-line? If that is so, a passing team is going to have a hell of a time also (any offense will). So it may be more than just the offense itself. If Johnson can’t bring in some blue chip offensive linemen he will have a hard time getting an effective offense.

By Astute Fan

September 15, 2008 4:10 PM | Link to this

nyjacket, Calvin was only a nerd for 3 years. I understand techies have difficulty counting, but it sounds like you need to join Reggie Ball in Counting Fingerpainting 101.

By RAMBLE ON!!!

September 15, 2008 4:14 PM | Link to this

Aaah HA!!! I’m arguing with Herschel Walker. The Total Tool, indeed, easy with that gun Herschel. I didn’t know you had this many personalities.

By robbie

September 15, 2008 4:16 PM | Link to this

Oh, that’s right, Calvin never graduated. But I thought he went to Tech to be an engineer? LMAO. To think he wasted all that talent on the crappy teams that Gailey fielded. Yeah, he’s making money now, but he could’ve done that if he went to georgia southern. What does he have to show for his college career besides a few burn from the smurf turf?

By ga_tech_92

September 15, 2008 4:20 PM | Link to this

When I hear UGA fans whinning about refs or calls…it is almost always in reference to the last two times GT beat UGA.

By dawgy

September 15, 2008 4:22 PM | Link to this

That’s just wrong. You stay classy Ramble…

Totally uncalled for.

By ga_tech_92

September 15, 2008 4:24 PM | Link to this

Who here is a better coach than Paul Johnson?

You may cast the first stone at his offense…

crickets

Get it?

By ga_tech_92

September 15, 2008 4:28 PM | Link to this

robbie … wow … moment of silence for ignornance … I feel for you man … wow … let me see if I can be ‘master of the obvious’ for you:

Did you just ask “what does Calvin have to show for his time at GT?”

Umm…MILLIONS of reasons…mostly dollars…also…he became the only player from all of the ACC to win the WR award…also he stood out in our conference, perhaps more than other conferences…also he has 3 years of ONE HELL OF AN EDUCATION under his belt.

By Class left these blogs a long time ago

September 15, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this

Now ramble’s comment might not have been correct, dawgy, but did you read the garbage that other uga fans have written above? Classy? Right. Pot, meet kettle.

By RAMBLE ON!!!

September 15, 2008 4:32 PM | Link to this

robbie, CJ went to GT to get an EDUCATION, that’s why he didn’t go to UGAG.

He’s still finishing up his degree. We don’t jsut hand them out like ThUGA does.

By RAMBLE ON!!!

September 15, 2008 4:34 PM | Link to this

sorry dawgy

By NYJacket

September 15, 2008 4:37 PM | Link to this

AsuteFan

I stand corrected. Sounds like you did not spend anytime at the North Avenue Trade School. So, I take your comments as a badge of honor.

By dawgy

September 15, 2008 4:40 PM | Link to this

I can’t vouch for the other idiots on this board, and I don’t have to. The best way to get them to leave is by ignoring them. Another good way to keep them away is by refraining from some of the stereotypes and exaggerations about dawg fans as well. I realize that UGA fans do the same to tech people (i.e. nerds, etc.), and I can’t control that. Just ignore them. They are nothing more than children. Anyone want to talk football instead?

By Ramblinwreck1982

September 15, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this

Georgia Tech had 278 rushing yards, averaging 5.6 yards per carry. Virginia Tech did sell out to stop the run, as some have said, and we still almost had 300 yards running - that says a lot about our run game! The reason Tech didn’t pass more was because two freshman were starting at WR, but even if Thomas starts, we only throw a little more, nothing drastic and there was no need to. Nesbitt set a school record for quarterbacks rushing against a very good defense that was “selling out to stop the run”. We connect on the late pass (Nesbitt to Roddy) and we score and win. Despite the turnovers, key penalties and not passing much, we were one play away from a W. I see nothing wrong with the play-calling. Johnson’s triple-option offense and scheme works! We throw 8 times and were 1 completion away from victory. We hit that pass and all this “throwing more” debate is pointless.

By Sam

September 15, 2008 4:43 PM | Link to this

Obviously NYJacket there are numerous offenses that aren’t going to work at Tech. The reason? Recruiting. You couldn’t run with the big boys doing what you were doing so obviously Radicovich did what he had to do. My point is that this offense has limitations at this level. Put it down 2 TDs and it has problems. Put it down with a minute or two left and 80 yards to go and it’s probably beat at this level. It has no real 2 minute offense and your QB will never be a polished passer. Put it against a run stuffing D and it’s beat. It’s a front running offense that has to be able to run to win. I really shouldn’t have to point out the obvious to you. As time goes by you’ll see for yourself.

By Size Matters

September 15, 2008 4:48 PM | Link to this

Carolina Jacket how many blue chip offensive linemen want to work in a system that doesn’t prepare them in any way for the next level. There’s not much demand in the NFL for 275 offensive linemen that can’t pass block and have none of the technical skills attractive to NFL teams.

By ga_tech_92

September 15, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this

By Size Matters - dude…how many blue chip linemen have we lost because of this system?…zero…GT doesn’t get blue chip linemen…

You are talking about something that doesn’t happen.

We are a tiny little school with a big tradition. We have to play a different brand of football to beat better recruiting. We will never out recruit the big boys, time has shown that. We can do something creative, like CPJ’s offense, and do ‘more with less’.

got it?

geezz…

By robbie

September 15, 2008 4:56 PM | Link to this

Ramble, dude, don’t kid yourself. Calvin went to tech because Gailey and company brainwashed his simple mother into thinking they would make Calvin into an engineer. Calvin couldn’t hack it, so he rode the M-Train. Didn’t ride it all the way out though, but I have no doubt he’ll finish because he seems like a determined guy, a great guy. However, a Management degree? Yeah, it’s a college degree, but it’s nothing special (insert tech academic joke towards Georgia here). Calvin could’ve gotten one of those anywhere. Bottom line, he’s a great guy, now he’s rich, but he didn’t have to go to tech to make that happen. Tech’s coaches/administrators fooled his simple parents. Simple as that.

By HC

September 15, 2008 5:01 PM | Link to this

You’re wasting your time Sam. No it alls like NYJacket can come up with 1000 gigabytes of worthless techmite logic to convince himself and the choir he’s preaching to that this is the greatest offense ever invented and that this “system” will solve every one of the myriad issues that beset Tech athletics. I wonder if he can tell us why, if this system is so great, so powerful, so overwhelming, the really big guys with the really good talent aren’t running it and just absolutely killing everyone with it? He’ll never tell you that they gave this stuff up years ago when defenses got bigger, stronger, and faster and rendered this type offense impotent. Of course convincing himself will only add to his misery when the more talented teams at this level make this great offense look silly.

By Size Matters

September 15, 2008 5:07 PM | Link to this

How many recruiting classes has PJ signed gatech92? Dumbazz. Another prime example of Tech fuzzy logic. What a moron. But good try, even if it is 4th grade brilliance.

By Size Matters

September 15, 2008 5:07 PM | Link to this

How many recruiting classes has PJ signed gatech92? Dumbazz. Another prime example of Tech fuzzy logic. What a moron. But good try, even if it is 4th grade brilliance.

By ga_tech_92

September 15, 2008 5:09 PM | Link to this

robbie, that’s a very insulting view of what happened with Calvin. Could just be as simple as this: He and his parents liked GT and all the various things she has to offer a student athlete? Couldn’t possibly be that simple could it. Perhaps some deep resentment on your part that he choose GT instead of a football factory?…yet…he still got drafted about as high as you can get drafted. Wow, it really worked out poorly for him didn’t it? *not

By So you all know Calvin

September 15, 2008 5:11 PM | Link to this

Right? I mean obviously he couldn’t have wanted to come to GT. Christ. And yes, Calvin is one of the best athletes around in terms of both ability and character. But why are we arguing about Calvin? You can all speculate all you want about what kind of athletes GT will lose b/c of this system, but it is just speculation and opinion. You know what they say about opinions right?

By RAMBLE ON!!!

September 15, 2008 5:14 PM | Link to this

robbie, getting a Mgt degree is no easy task, no matter how much you want to believe it is. I don’t think that’s CJ major anyway. Please ask him since you know him and his family so well.

2 accounting, 4 econ, 2 physics, 2 bio or chem classes, 2 calculus, yea whatever dude. Dream on!!!!

So far, CPJ’s recruiting, with not even a full season under his belt are better than Gailey’s was, with the exception of ‘07.

There are plenty of 3-4 star recruits and even 5 stars that would love block and pass for CPJ.

Most of these “fans” bashing the offense are the one’s who don’t come to the games and just sit a home and moan and complain.

If you can’t see what a great coach Paul Johnson is, than you’re blind.

By robbie

September 15, 2008 5:17 PM | Link to this

no resentment here, gatech92, he never was a factor against us. Sent him packing at 0-3. Not sure if he was the missing link between our 2005 SEC Championship and a national championship or not. Maybe. And I didn’t mean to insult anyone. I shouldn’t have used the word “simple” to describe Calvin’s parents. But from reading his quotes during his recruitment, it seems the wool was pulled over their eyes pretty good. He could have had a good education at a number of schools. I for one am glad it worked out for him, because he seems like a superb guy. He’s successful, and he never beat us. Perfect.

By ga_tech_92

September 15, 2008 5:22 PM | Link to this

HC, the operative words in your statement were “the more talented teams”. Exactly the issue. The most talented guys, generally, go to Football factories (UGA, UF, etc)…that is NOT GT. Thus, we have to do something a little gimicky, a little different, to try and compensate for less overall talent.

It’s not rocket science dude…and his system worked in places people said it would never work…and here he is again…trying to do it in a place some of you say “it can never be done”.

This year is going to be rough, because his first year with a team historically is. But, don’t dare sit there complaining that our problem will be because he can’t recruit the best players with this system…….THAT WAS THE CASE BEFORE THIS SYSTEM. The majority of blue chippers go to football factories dude, got it? That is not GT. GT is a special place that is trying to think outside the box of pro-style conformity.

You want to line up and play the same style of football as the big boys, but with lesser recruits?…go for it…let’s see how that works out for you. I believe that’s what has been tried the past couple decades here. Open your mind and allow something different to happen. We weren’t happy with what was going on…now we are going to try something different….from a coach who has overachieved everywhere he has ever been.

“overachieved everywhere he has ever been”

Yeah…let’s complain about that guy…not so much…I’m thrilled to have that guy as our coach.

You think you can do better?…go do it.

By ga_tech_92

September 15, 2008 5:31 PM | Link to this

Cute: ‘sent him packing 0-3’…if it was a one on one game, that would not have been the case, I bet. As we know, though, it is a team game and his surrounding cast wasn’t on the same level as his TEAM’s competition. I’ll be the first to admit with UGA getting top five classes year after year, you guys have FAR superior depth and talent. It’s not a complicated thing to figure out. It’s no more complicated that figuring out that CJ wasn’t shut down by UGA, in-so-much-as, GT was shut down and CJ was part of the team.

Calvin does represent the school well though. I wish him every blessing. He is one of those rare super-talented wide outs, who doesn’t have a negative me-first attitude. Sure, he wants the ball and exudes the confidence to let you know that…but if someone else gets the attention, he’s the first to congradulate……..instead of throwing a fit like some wide outs these days.

By NYJacket

September 15, 2008 5:41 PM | Link to this

SAM,

In theory a throwing offense can eat up a lot of yards with only 2 minutes left in a game. And, you may be right that the run based option will take longer to score but maybe not. I remember PJ Navy’s team scoring really fast last year against Notre Dame.

However, in reality very few teams come back with only two minutes left in the game.

It takes great receivers and a great throwing QB and very few teams have those.

BC did it last year with Matt Ryan and he is now starting for the Falcons.

There just aren’t that many QB’s with his talent.

I will have fun watching PJ and his fast moving option. And, I am confident that with great receivers you will see him score a lot of points through the air.

If I was defending him, I wouldn’t bet that he was not going to throw.

PJ will roll the dice.

By surfrider

September 15, 2008 5:46 PM | Link to this

Yes Tech can win if it stops beating itself but the opportunity may exist to increase our passing ratio. Nesbitt probably won’t be able to run the ball 20 plus times week after week. VT was an exception. What I saw is Nesbitt and A-backs becoming more comfortable with the pitch in the second half in a pressure enviroment. That should help Tech alone but throw in more quick hitting play action passes after faking to the A back or B back or rollout/drops and that may open up the option running game even more. Fridge used the pass to open the run up. Problems may exist with pass protection so quick hitting ones may set up run and long passes. What is encouraging is we were in position to win in a hostile enviroment for the second week in a row without two or three of our top Linebackers and we increased our offensive numbers less the turnovers.

By dawgy

September 15, 2008 5:51 PM | Link to this

Big fan of Calvin, now that he’s finally out of Atlanta! How’d he do yesterday?

By RAMBLE ON!!!

September 15, 2008 5:53 PM | Link to this

gatech92, why do you think this year is going to be rough? We are 2-1 and should be 3-0, yes, because of a terrible call.

Gailey would be 1-2 at this point.

We will win the next three games, easily. Look at the schedule, dude.

The ones after that are all winnable too. I see wins in all the remaining home games.

By NYJacket

September 15, 2008 5:59 PM | Link to this

I have been listening to the crap that Tech can’t recruit top talent for years.

It simply is not true.

No brain Brain sesentially aid that but he was wrong.

It is a lot tougher to get quantities of top notch talent but they are out there.

Tech has always had difficulty finding the top players who could also handle the school.

Very few kids that play college ball will earn the big bucks from Pro ball so they had best prepare themselves for life after football - even if they make it to Sunday’s. That is where Tech has a big advantage.

Tech will prepare a kid for the rest of his life.

By RAMBLE ON!!!

September 15, 2008 6:05 PM | Link to this

Give’em Hell NYJacket!!!!!!!!!!

By CarolinaJacket

September 15, 2008 6:21 PM | Link to this

I’ll stick by my o-line comment. It’s hard to win when they can’t keep the opposition out of the backfield (I’m sure you remember Randy Johnson). Tech is playing with three two star and two three star starters right now, but we have two four star and several three stars coming up and a shot at one or two recruits this year. When the o-line puts it in gear the offense should improve. We shall see. Oh yes, there were only ten five star offensive linemen in the country in last years class. None came to this state.

And to Robbie who thinks so poorly of Calvin’s “simple” parents. I believe they are very intelligent and well education people, with a lot more class than to make comments about your parents.

By Larry Hartstein

September 15, 2008 6:32 PM | Link to this

Injury update:

DT Vance Walker did not practice today. He has concussion-like symptoms, and is day-to-day.

WR Demaryius Thomas (mild concussion) also did not practice. But OLB Anthony Barnes returned from his left shoulder injury.

By gtne80

September 15, 2008 7:19 PM | Link to this

One of the biggest complaints about Gailey’s teams over his time at Tech was the unpredictability. Although we often won some big games that we shouldn’t have, we often lost games that we shouldn’t have too.

Well, folks, get ready for a big whopping butt-load of predictability. A coach with an unbending, unyielding devotion to an outdated, High School offense.

The strategy is simple. Control the clock and the ball long enough to keep the score tight. Pull out more wins than losses by being tough-minded and disciplined.

Unfortunately, this strategy will also lead to tough losses like the one this past weekend when you get untimely turnovers or penalties.

PJ is the culmination and fulfillment of the Dave Braine “7 and 5 and a bowl game” prognostication.

Reality….deal with it.

By mike

September 15, 2008 8:16 PM | Link to this

stay classy Paul, calling a tv commentator a moron lowers yourself. try watching some game film and not a replay of the game. why should you even have the sound turned up. do you read these blogs also.

By good one

September 15, 2008 8:29 PM | Link to this

gtne80- right, moron. Your comments are beyond ignorant. The “predictability” of the run is what sets up the big pass plays. When we have our WR core back to full speed, we will be able to utilize them much more than at VT. And Mike, I guess you are a D-1 coach yourself, seeing how you know so much about watching game film? Last time I checked, PJ is a D-1 coach, and has won everywhere he has gone. What have you done? You mutts are hilarious. Go cry about dropping to #3 along with the rest of the mutt nation b/c your ignorant comments over here hold no water. We aren’t going to start second guessing PJ b/c of your insults towards his offense.

By ga_tech_92

September 15, 2008 9:47 PM | Link to this

Hey RAMBLE ON - I just think we will have a rough year, because of the growing pains to learn PJ’s offense….new coach…new defense…new offense…loss of some players…new attitude…so much is changing, usually so much change all at once costs some games here and there. Also, we are very young…also this offense is known to take a good half to full year to start clicking for the players. All of that put together, I set my expectations somewhere around 7 wins before the season started. 7 is what our previous coach got with time to put his system in place…I think PJ is the man, so I think even with all the challenges, he’ll pull out 7 wins…but that will be a Hellofa hellofa hellofan accomplishment (imho)

By RAMBLE ON!!!

September 15, 2008 10:02 PM | Link to this

Good one, good one!!!

I guess gtne80 and some others think implementing an offense like this only takes a couple of weeks. Especially coming from last year when the only time Josh played was taking a shot-gun snap and running up the middle. Talk about unpredictable!!!

Game 6, 7, or 8 this offense will be unstoppable, period!!! The only thing stopping it right now is inexperience in executing it.

Hey CPJ, don’t forget about the refs, they are moron’s too.

By Inquiring Mind

September 16, 2008 4:34 PM | Link to this

Amazing that all these 2.5 to 4 mil a year coaches are not all running this “unstoppable” offense. LMAO! You bugs keep deluding yourself and when you can’t score 17+ on any good team and finish 6-6 comfort yourself with another sip of that koolaid.

By tee time

September 16, 2008 7:54 PM | Link to this

gene80…you and Paul play a lot of golf together?

By GTYJ

September 16, 2008 10:26 PM | Link to this

It isn’t how often we throw, but what we do when we do throw.

100+ yards a game passing is enough to keep the defense honest, and that is what matters. And like some other poster sad, we should have had more.

Mind, not every team has the personnel to run the TO, or if they do it isn’t the best for them. A good coach is defined by what he does with what he has, not just by what he does relating to other teams.

As far as the refs costing us the game. That isn’t true, TOs lost it for us. However, with 3 TOs in favor of VT and 140 more yards for us the score was tied at 17. Even game, one balanced out the other. Then it was third and long, and should have been 4th and long if it weren’t for a bad call. That call didn’t cost us the game, but it decided the outcome of the game.

Simply put, TOs put us in the situation to be screwed out of a W and the refs did the screwing. Both are to blame.

By Barry

September 17, 2008 3:10 AM | Link to this

With all the problems Tech is having at the WR position, what ever happened to Andrew Smith, a redshirt senior? Why has he been buried by the coaching staff?

By North Ave Pimp

September 17, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this

If you can’t be happy as a GT fan today with where we are something is wrong with U. Sure 3-0 would be nice, BUT we are def.. headed in the right direction. Get used to the fumbles, its going to happen. GO JACKETS!!

REF’S REALLY F00CKED US LAST GAME! Oh well!!

By GT Ninety

September 17, 2008 9:19 PM | Link to this

Dawgy is right. We need to stop whining about the bogus calls. Great teams find ways to win. We almost did and I take that as a sign that we are getting better but we aren’t there yet. And rome wasn’t built in a day. But when it was, it was amazing just like the Jackets will be come late October into November and well into the 2009 and 2010. Nesbitt will be a heisman contender by his senior season. Yes, I said it and trully believe it. By design of the offense, he will have broken all Tech QB records (except in total passing yards) unless we start to catch the deep balls. Bebe has to get rolling or we will be stuck in the 17 point range all season long.

PS: UGA- get used to being #3 b/c Oklahoma is rolling and USC cannot be stopped. You’ll have to blow out ASU, LSU, and Tenneweak to even have a shot at the title. It sucks but its just facts. Your slow start is the reason but you only have your team to blame. Not the pollsters.

By GT Student

September 18, 2008 12:50 PM | Link to this

Our best games will be when we don’t have to throw A SINGLE PASS because the defenses will not be able stop the run.