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Tech’s going to be better than some think
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
The curtain comes up in a couple days, and Georgia Tech football will not be the same.
The offense won’t look the same. The defense won’t look the same. The uniforms won’t look the same, and dare I say the same ol’, same ol’ vibe will be gone and soon easy to forget (some clearly have tried very hard already to wash away memories, right?).
Jeez, is it ever going to stop raining? I digress.
My hunch is that one of the most refreshing changes in Tech football will be a different level of accountability. If the defense stinks, Paul Johnson will say it. I don’t mean he’s going to indict people or coaches, but the days of, “We’ve got to get better,” as an accounting measure are gone.
Blandness? Uh, no. Gone.
But that doesn’t mean Jerry Glanville’s coaching on The Flats (again), either. Johnson will be a straight shooter. Sometimes defensive, yes. Sometimes, prone to stretch statistics out of whack or mangle their context, sure. But not one to trot out boilerplate and coach-speak ad infinitum, either.
While there is a temptation to say that it will take a while for Johnson’s offense and Wommack’s defense to grasp new systems, that’d be excuse-making. Forget that. Isn’t it reasonable to suggest that Johnson has more talent to work with on offense than he’s had before? I’d say yes, but that’s just a semi-educated guess.
Yes, his team is incredibly young. Even if he does indeed have more talent on the offensive side than he’s ever had, he has virtually no experience that relates to his scheme.
Still, I think the unique nature of his scheme will mask some of the youth. Where scheme masked talent deficiencies at Navy, I think this season it can mask youth. But I’m not saying Tech is going 9-3. The system didn’t mask anything the first year at Navy. The Middies were 2-10.
But there’s more talent on this team than that team, young or not. That’s a better mesh. And on defense, if you area of your team is going to be super strong and the other two young, it’s best to have the fellas up front with the experience. That’s Tech.
And from my vantage point, the Jackets have a much better feel about themselves than they had much of last season. Couple that with reduced expectations/pressure (remember, last year’s team had a lot of returning starters back from a team that played in the ACC championship game), and I’m not going to be surprised if Tech wins seven. Maybe even eight.
I think the Jackets are going to score quite a few points this season, especially by the Miss. State game, when I think the offense will start grooving. They’re probably going to give up more than in the past few seasons, too, however.
Bottom line: you read it here — at least seven wins, and a bowl game.




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Comments
By Jmoneywg
August 26, 2008 10:56 AM | Link to this
Bottom line. Paul Johnson wins football games
By Joshua Barlowe
August 26, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this
Thanks Matt. It’s great to hear optimism on the program from someone with an objective eye. Thanks again for all your hard work - I hope you have a good last few days on the job.
As for the article on the front page with the Stafford video - ask your sports editors why there isn’t video of Stafford spooning with Cox and lifting Kegs as his offseason workout?
http://deepsouthsports.blogspot.com/2007/05/talledega-days.html
By GT6
August 26, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this
Good article Matt, as always. I agree Tech will beat expectations this year, which, outside of Georgia Tech fans, are incredibly low. I think Tech will win 7 or 8.
GO JACKETS!
By stinGTime
August 26, 2008 11:11 AM | Link to this
Hope we are not satisfied too long with that prediction…sounds about what was expected of the guy that left (and is still being paid?).
As you stated, by the end of the season, that Johnson Express should really be “wrecking”!
By GT45
August 26, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this
In the past, all the pressure has been on the defense to hold offenses, and pray we could score 21 points to win. By the end of the game, the defense was whipped, because of so many three and outs. I don’t see that being such a problem this year or the future. I was wanting Tenuta to stay as DC, to see what his defense could do staying “fresh” the whole game. Winning will bring the athletes to compete every play on defense, and the gimmicktry, if you will, of Tenuta’s defense will cancel out each other. Right now, let’s take baby steps, and grow as we go. Most importantly, let’s SUPPORT OUR TEAM!!! Go Jackets and THWG
By JD
August 26, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this
The Tech theme this year will be “Turnovers Galore” and the players will start to doubt the coaches and their system. Five wins will be a stretch and they will long for the days of the Boise Blue Turf.
By Moe Ron
August 26, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this
Here we have a blog about GTs chances of going to a bowl game. Good topic. What response do you get from GT fans? Comments about “spooning”. It is usually followed by the “UGAy” thing. Lame, just lame. Tells you volumes about the status of their program.
By Fred G. Sanford
August 26, 2008 11:27 AM | Link to this
The “G” stands for Georgia, you big dummy!
GT45, good post. I like the thought process about the defense being fresh at the end of the game by eliminating so many one and outs. I believe GT will be competitive throughout the season, but your best years are ahead.
By davo
August 26, 2008 11:34 AM | Link to this
Tech will struggle with turnovers on offense and depth on the O-Line. When it’s all said and done…4-8 or 5-7. You will not really know about Johnson’s scheme until about the 3rd year. If he still 5-7,6-6..it will be time to rethink.
By GT GRAD
August 26, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this
Dear Mr. Moe Ron,
There was only one blogger who decided to post a negative comment about UGA. I wish there were none by the way.
Let’s have a little test run here…….I would be willing to bet less than 5% of the future blogs will contain negative or attacking comments towards UGA as long as the DAWG fans do not start the nonsense or post fake blogs posing as a true GT fan.
I am excited about the future of GT Football and I am taking a realist approach regarding the 2008 season. I am hoping for 7-9 wins and expecting 5-6 wins. No matter what the end results are this year, I truly think we will have a football program we can be very proud of by 2010 and beyond.
By BuzzFactor
August 26, 2008 11:50 AM | Link to this
I have the same feeling and thoughts on the situation basically. It would be a bonus to get an early road win at BC or VT, but it may be too early in the season for those 2 games. Once this team gets it’s feet wet and starts to get in a groove(somewhere about mid-season) the naysayers will be pulling in behind the Johnson Express. I can see an 8-4 season very possible. But I think the defense will hold teams to lower numbers, which is what will really give us a chance to stumble a bit on offense early. That D-line should be the heart and soul of the team and the other units, offensive and defensive will feed off of them as the season rambles on…
By limpdikdawg
August 26, 2008 11:56 AM | Link to this
If Tech can continue to recruit the quality of defensive talent that it has over the past 3-4 yrs, they will be a force because PJ will make this offense work. QBs,RBs,and linemen who are hardnosed and love to block ,come on down! WR’s will be shocked as to how much they will like this O.
By GT78
August 26, 2008 12:01 PM | Link to this
Well Matt, maybe you’re right but realistically 8 of the 12 teams on our schedule are probably better than we are right now. The point that Tech has better athletes may be true, with a disclaimer. The opposition is much better than PJ ever faced at Navy. There are 4 teams on our schedule that have the potential to embarrass us. I just want to temper all the optimism with some logical thought. My fear is that we Tech fans will become, well, Tech fans after a few losses. It is undeniable that we don’t handle disappointment well. This thing to me is a 3 to 4 year project. And in the mean time our opposition isn’t standing still either. UNC comes to mind.
By Ruthless One
August 26, 2008 12:08 PM | Link to this
Good article! I am excited to see the “new” Tech this year. In fact I almost feel the exact same way about the Falcons with the new coaching staffs and the whole fresh start thing. I think both programs will surprise people and are going to be better than first thought.
I too would like to have seen Tenuta stay, but I feared him leaving after another year and other job’s opening up. So maybe this was a smart move to give Paul Johnson’s guy a shot.
All I know is I can’t wait to see how surprised everyone is about our football team. Will there be fumbles and mis-queues? Yes. Not much of a surprise there considering it’s a new scheme. This would happen to any program (Even the supposedly unbeatable UGA) if they drastically changed their scheme.
Go Wreck.
By olderiget
August 26, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this
My tickets are in hand and GT Football is going to be a blast. Win or lose, once a Jacket fan always a jacket fan. Let’s just enjoy the ride and let Coach Johnson do what he does- build and win.
By BB Express
August 26, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this
BuzzFactor, Bud Foster is the best Defensive Coordintor in America. VT is going to show you exactly how fast things can go very wrong with your offense when faced with deeper, faster, stronger defenses. It will definately prepare you for the beatdown waiting for you from your in state rival.
By The Truth Hurts
August 26, 2008 12:14 PM | Link to this
Valdosta State could win 7 games in the ACC.
By john
August 26, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this
Option or no option all this talk about how it will take 3 years and that we won’t do well this year makes me laugh. We have some extremely talented athletes on our team. That being said, they will do just fine - if not great!!! If I could have one wish though? Beat Georgia in Athens this year!!!!
By 1Jacket7
August 26, 2008 12:20 PM | Link to this
Well GT FANS Lets show how ready we are to make a successful change in our program. Get out to the games and get off your butts and establish a true football enviornment that our boys would love to shine for. Call up your friends and business partners that love TECH and get them to Bobby Dodd Stadium on Thursday Night. We are going to have a great year and the one noticeable difference will be that of the excited fans that flood the seats at Grant Field. GO Jackets!! THWG and everyone else on on schedule.
By old nerd
August 26, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this
i have no opinion about the likely record this year, but i believe a significant (positive) change is in the works. to me, the look of disbelief and dismay on coach johnson’s face after a lackluster effort on a play in the last bowl game spoke volumes. the w-l record may or may not be what tech fans want, but i think they will be very pleased with the team’s effort
By 1Jacket7
August 26, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this
Folks, please stop with the logic quotes. Playing this sport for over 15 years of my life never had a coach tell me to weigh the logic. The game is played on the field, not on paper. Those that live in fear are absent of faith. And faith is where overcoming the odds is found. Just get excited about your Team and let them know we believe in them. And these guys with there new leader will accomplish a lot. Logic has its place, but its place is not on the football field. Just Win TECH, Just Win. Go Jackets!!!
By 1Jacket7
August 26, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this
Folks, please stop with the logic quotes. Playing this sport for over 15 years of my life never had a coach tell me to weigh the logic. The game is played on the field, not on paper. Those that live in fear are absent of faith. And faith is where overcoming the odds is found. Just get excited about your Team and let them know we believe in them. And these guys with there new leader will accomplish a lot. Logic has its place, but its place is not on the football field. Just Win TECH, Just Win. Go Jackets!!!
By Fred
August 26, 2008 12:39 PM | Link to this
John why don’t you man up and quantify all that. Compare your athletes and your depth to other teams on your schedule. Your talent level is not what you think it is and your depth with a few exceptions doesn’t exist. You don’t have near the talent that Croom does at MSU. Clemson, VT, UGA? Forget it. You got a long way to go to catch those guys. Get real and you won’t be dissappointed.
And I second 1Jacket7’s emotion. Get off your butts and do more than talk to make all your dreams reality. Otherwise Tech football will continue to be nothing more than the same old nightmare on North Avenue.
By conga man
August 26, 2008 12:43 PM | Link to this
I love hearing the talk about a weak ACC every year. Lets see- the SEC has UGA, Florida, Auburn, and Tennessee? But lets not kid ourselves- you can’t be serious when you argue Vandy, Kentucky, Miss., Miss St., even South Carolina as being the best in the country! All of those teams would lose to the top teams in the ACC and struggle with their counterparts in the ACC as well.
By 1Jacket7
August 26, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this
Tenuta’s defense was exciting to see but it had so many flaws. It didn’t teach the DB’s to turn and find the ball. It was so complicated that after 4 years in the system the guys were still confused. It tired out the players so that in the fourth quarter they had nothing left. Its solution to everything was blitz more. Go back and look at North Carolina when tenuta was there. North Carolina was great for 3 QTRS and then they would lose the game in the 4th Qtr. Tenuta help John Bunting to Unemployment and did the same for Chan Gailey. Even though Chan didn’t need any help. Case in point, check out Kansas City Chiefs this year. Oh brother.. We are and have what we need to be successful. Up with the New and Bold and down with the Old and Forgotten. GO JACKETS!!!
By john
August 26, 2008 12:48 PM | Link to this
? Fred…who r u? A UGA fan? I can qualify them with a link to rivals.com but you can go in there yourself and check out all the positions and the rankings of players. We had plenty of mention in there. I didn’t see that UGA had really anymore sorry.
By GT45
August 26, 2008 12:52 PM | Link to this
Man, I hate to admit it but Fred is right, when your record the last two decades is barely over 500.,..that says it all. Getting to a Bowl game is barely reaching mediocrity these days, you think we could at least do that from time to time. Lets recruit better in states like Georgia, Florida, as well as the growing high scchollers from up North, and make GT attractive again. Beating those Dawgs when they are bragging about a National Championship would really be a feather in out bonnets. See ya at the next Nambla meeting, Gaybo.
By HellsCowBells
August 26, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this
You really believe that conga man? My condolences. Now tell us how teams like GT would do if they played UGA’s schedule. They might win 2 games. The ACC has been pitiful against the rest of college football. What are they in BCS bowl games? 0-9..something like that? Why do ACC teams that finish 2 and 3 in the ACC get matched up in bowl games with teams from the SEC that finished 5 and 6? Figure that one out conga man. The ACC is awful and Tech is one of the ACC weak sisters.
By GTsince62
August 26, 2008 12:59 PM | Link to this
Coach PJ will return GaTech to the glory days in a very short time. Get UP and Get OUT to Grant Field to support the our Yellow Jackets.
THWG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By Dawgman19
August 26, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this
Tech will more than likely have to win at least 8 to go to a bowl. I don’t think the wins over Jax St. and Gardner Webb will count towards a bowl unless the rule has been changed. I don’t see them winning 6 more. I’m not sold on the option either. Winklejohn writes about having better talent at Tech well guess what everybody else has better talent as well so that nullifies that theory. Tech is not an upper level program and fans think they are. Winning 7-8 games a year is reality at Tech. I think everybody is more hopeful than confident right now. Please let this work! is what they are saying. I think the offese is gimmick and Paul Johnson will be exposed in a couple of years. Alot of turnovers and frustration to come. You have to be able to pass the football and I don’t think Tech can do it efficiently and consistently. Tech’s defense will fall off which they haven’t been all they are cracked up to be. Georgia finished ahead of them in total defense many times. Consider me not worried. GO DAWGS!
By The Truth Hurts
August 26, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this
I didn’t say anything about Vandy, Kentucky, Miss., Miss St., even South Carolina. I said the ACC is an embarassment and the concensus choice as the worst of the BCS leagues. The fact that their top teams can ONLY beat the SEC’s bottom teams only proves the point genius. The ACC cannot compete with elite BCS teams. That is not my opinion. This is a FACT. You’re not going to get any respect beating up on Vandy and Ole Miss.
The point is that winning 7 games on Georgia Tech’s schedule is no big accomplishment. I wouldn’t be surprised if they won 8 or 9 games on that schedule to be quite honest. Heck, you may knock off perrenial choke artist Clemson one week and then bite the big one against Virginia the next. Nothing would surprise me. ACC football is like a bunch of drunk monkeys fighting over a banana. Anything can happen on any given Saturday, including a Georgia Tech victory.
I will not be impressed. As of now I count only 3 ranked teams on the entire schedule. The ACC is a choke fest and the OOC schedule is one of the weakest around with 2 D-1aa’s on the slate. Tech wouldn’t even deserve a bowl with 7 wins in my opinion.
And I hardly see how this young team thing is any worthy excuse. Gailey had young teams too and he always managed at least 7 wins. Wasn’t Johnson supposed to raise the bar?
By GT45
August 26, 2008 1:11 PM | Link to this
Man, find something else to do, other than stealing names and making off color posts. To everyone else out there, this idiot ain’t me, but don’t excuse him/her/it!
By Macon Countyline
August 26, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this
What, Winklejohn is taking the buyout? No! Who is going to cover Tech, some stringer from the student body?
By ATLHokie
August 26, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this
Never seen a fanbase suffer with such an inferiority complex. Reminds me of an angry midget. Tech will be lucky to win 6 games this year.
By Navigator
August 26, 2008 1:23 PM | Link to this
What’s the big mystery?? Tech is now striving to be just like Wake Forest (not bad), where they run at you most of the time. Call it what you will, but it’s the way you play without enough talent to win the old fashion way. It’s too bad the school attached their wagon to a disciple of Vince Dooley. Remember him, he road the back of the greatest college running back (name eliminated) to a national championship. I guess you won’t be seeing Tech play Texas, Oklahoma, Southern Cal, Ohio State or even LSU on or after new years day, anytime soon. I think that Bobby Dodd would recognize what Johnson is trying to do, however, I think it’s 4-5 years of what we just got rid of.
By people
August 26, 2008 1:25 PM | Link to this
Why are people still talking about turnover problems? Tech fumbled all over the place in the spring game after about 8 practices in the new system. In the last open scrimmage game 2 weeks ago I didn’t see any turnovers. Turnovers aren’t any more of a problem than any other team in college football.
Talent- Tech has it. There is no doubt about. The highly ranked 2007 class are sophomores now and are all over the two deep depth chart. Take a look at the AJC Top 50 in Georgia. Tech has 8 commits so far, UGA has 9, and no other school has more than 2.
ACC-Everyone knows the ACC isn’t the SEC and hasn’t been that close the last 3 years, but it’s still a tough conference top to bottom. The conference just lacks some powerhouse teams. With that being said, Tech is in the top 3 in wins in the conference the last 10 years. We aren’t a bottom dweller by any means, and the cupboard wasn’t even close to being bare when Johnson arrived. 1 or 2 wins against Georgia in the last 7 years would’ve changed the perception of our program dramatically. We aren’t as far behind Georgia in talent as Georgia fans think we are.
Prediction- 7-5. But for once we’ll win the ones we are supposed to win, and lose the ones we are supposed to lose. Time to get some consistency back on the Flats and build upon it.
By GeoSci
August 26, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this
GT won’t beat Miss St. They wouldn’t beat a Houston Nutt coached Ole Miss. They couldn’t beat Mark Richt’s worst team with O’Liary, George Godsey, Joe Burns, and only God knows how many ineligibles. Paul Johnson may be a good coach, but he has never even sniffed the rarified air that coaches in the SEC inhale every week. He beat 4 teams with winning records in 6 years at Navy. He won a subdivision NC with the team that Erk Russell built. Tech fans will find out soon enough that there is no savior in their case. I predict 3 weeks from Thursday when they are 1-3 and just got beatdown by Miss St. that they will in their hearts know it ain’t going to get any better. Tech is a 2nd tier 7 win team at best year after year. And for a team that is only 20 games over .500 since 1964 that is really all they can expect.
By Glen Burns
August 26, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this
I bet you Tech fans are glad all this rain moved out before Thursday night. That could have been really really ugly. Double digit turnovers and a loss against Jax St. could have been devastating.
By Gaybo Shaw
August 26, 2008 1:36 PM | Link to this
I’m now running the second team offense. I can’t contain my excitement! Thank GOD tech is located so close to both the ghetto and fairyland, or else, I just wouldn’t be able to make it here. Paul Johnson is the sexiest man alive! I can’t believe I’m playing for him! Now, if you’ll excuse me, I’m going to pump out some naked pushups in my dorm room before my Burmese roommate comes home. He is so easily offended!
By David Cutcliffe
August 26, 2008 1:37 PM | Link to this
Coach Johnson, this is Coach Cutcliffe. Want to be our Homecoming opponent?
By Sam
August 26, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this
people, I would think that there is a rather substantial talent difference between #1 and #80.
By GT45
August 26, 2008 1:47 PM | Link to this
You guys kill me talking about Johnson’s record at Navy. He turned it into a winning program, and the games he lost was because he didn’t have any defensive talent. They simply couldn’t score enough. Sure, it was a down year for Notre Dame, but Navy beat them last year for the first time in over 40 years-40 years! No way in hell that should happen with ND talent, but he did it fair and square in three overtimes. If he can take a team as talented as Tech, and make them play over their heads, no wonder you flea gaggers are nervous!
By southern fan
August 26, 2008 1:49 PM | Link to this
Barlowe, you are ONE big Jack a*!!
By GTsince62
August 26, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this
THW all you UGA Fruits. Go sniff Stafford’s crack and get off our Blog.
By southern fan
August 26, 2008 1:50 PM | Link to this
Barlowe, you are ONE big Jack a*!!
By ga_tech_92
August 26, 2008 1:55 PM | Link to this
Regardless of talent, the option game requires LOTS of reps. You cannot snap your fingers and have years of experience running it. We will have a lot of turnovers and struggle the first part of the season….recover and see a vision of things to come at the end of the season…realistic, but tough goal will be 7 wins because of learning a new offense that is known to be turn-over prone until you’ve mastered it.
By Cashfan
August 26, 2008 1:57 PM | Link to this
Isn’t Auburn in the almighty SEC? I believe the lowly Yellow Jackets beat them the last two times they played them and Auburn was ranked both times. And even though Georgia has been beating Tech they never beat them easily while some ACC teams have. The SEC fans are living in a dream world. If they HAVE an edge it’s for the same old reasons - lower academic standards and cheating. And speaking of unrealistic expectations, UGA fans are about to find out how rough it can get - #1? What a joke! They won’t be there more than a week or two.
It may take Johnson a couple of years to get his team built the way he wants it but Tech will be fine.
By honestly
August 26, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this
Even in Johnson’s losses to BCS teams, he scored more points than Gailey could manage. Heck, Johnson’s Georgia Southern teams scored more against Georgia than Tech has in over 7 years. Also, I think it’ safe to say Nesbitt and Dwyer are better than anything Johnson had at Navy.
By Ruthless One
August 26, 2008 2:01 PM | Link to this
Last time I checked this was a blog for Tech fans and how well Tech might do this year.
Of course the insecurity accusations of all these dawg b*** explains a lot. I think you dawg fans are the ones that are insecure.
If your team does not win the national championship then that is a major dissapointment (even with that schedule). Dawgs are insecure about Tech actually having a good team in the future. This stems from the fact that it might tarnish the ability to constantly brag about a team that has accomplished less in major bowl wins and championships across all sports when compared to so the so called little girl school in the city of Atlanta.
Must be embarrasing to think that such a crappy program such as Tech has still managed more success across all the sports as a whole and yes not to mention more championships in football. I have some tissues if you need it.
Bottom line is if you do not like tech then so be it, but this is for tech fans being positive about our teams future and I stress “OUR”. As a Tech fan I don’t care if you have optimism for your team. In fact I can appreciate it. I was okay with it in the early 90’s when UGA was a consistent let down and the SEC was as well.
In fact this whole bragging of conferences is pointless because the ACC has had many years with a very strong conference for all sports and not just football. SEC cannot always say that. The ACC and SEC will have periods where one is better than the other. It happens in all sports. The SEC is no doubt better right now, but that does not diminish the talent that is in the ACC now and in the future.
I for one am excited about Tech this year and the future with Paul Johnson. A lot of criticism can be made about his scheme and the players that it will attract, but the bottom line is we will get top notch talent because it’s different and fits certain athletes better than othes.
Go Wreck.
By TrainWreckTech
August 26, 2008 2:02 PM | Link to this
I agree. Tech will be better than some think. They might win 5. Not the 3 or 4 some think.
By brent
August 26, 2008 2:06 PM | Link to this
Guys, as much as you want to poo poo the fact that Johnson ONLY beat four teams with winning records over his SIX years at Navy due to Navy’s “inferior talent,” you have to face the facts. Navy wasn’t exactly playing Georgia, Tennessee, and Florida. They were losing to Northwestern, Delaware, and Middle Tennessee. As much as you hate to admit it, Navy did have talented athletes, in addition to being smart and mentally tough as nails. I’m not saying Johnson is a bad coach, he’s just not the miracle worker you tech fans are making him out to be. He’ll be about like Chan, record-wise. Not much change.
By Fred
August 26, 2008 2:08 PM | Link to this
The opposition is better too honestly. That will be PJ’s problem. DUH!!!!
By ga_tech_92
August 26, 2008 2:10 PM | Link to this
I will be happy if I see the men learning and pulling the same direction. I’m not worried about W’s and L’s this year. At least a year or two before we can start judging. Keep the expectations realistic folks…we are changing EVERYTHING…and rightly so.
By JD
August 26, 2008 2:11 PM | Link to this
Cashfan - I’m glad you brought up lower academic standards and cheating in the SEC. Remind me, what happened at tech back in 2002? Hadn’t half the team been playing when they were ineligible? And are you sure you want to go there with such bastions of academic integrity like Clemson, VT, Miami, FSU, and NC State in the ACC? Didn’t think so. Not so wise to throw stones in a glass house, is it nerd?
By Get A Grip
August 26, 2008 2:15 PM | Link to this
2007 FOOTBALL SCHEDULE RECORD: 8-5 DATE OPPONENT
8-31-07 at Temple (Fri.) WON 30-19 Navy at Temple Football Tickets 9-7-07 at Rutgers (Fri.) LOST 24-41 Navy at Rutgers Football Tickets 9-15-07 BALL STATE LOST 31-34 (OT) Ball State at Navy Football Tickets 9-22-07 DUKE WON 46-43 Duke at Navy Football Tickets 9-29-07 AIR FORCE WON 31-20 Air Force at Navy Football Tickets 10-10-07 at Pittsburgh (Wed.) WON 48-45 (2OT) Navy at Pittsburgh Football Tickets 10-20-07 WAKE FOREST LOST 24-44 Wake Forest at Navy Football Tickets 10-27-07 DELAWARE LOST 52-59 Delaware at Navy Football Tickets 11-3-07 at Notre Dame WON 46-44 (3OT) Navy at Notre Dame Football Tickets 11-10-07 at North Texas WON 74-62 Navy at North Texas Football Tickets 11-17-07 NORTHERN ILLINOIS WON 35-24 Northern Illinois at Navy Football Tickets 12-1-07 vs. Army @Baltimore, MD WON 38-3 Army/Navy Game Football Tickets POINSETTIA BOWL @San Diego, CA
12-20-07 Utah LOST 32-35
There’s the kind of opposition PJ has been playing.
By tj
August 26, 2008 2:16 PM | Link to this
excuses, excuses, excuses… No way in H E double hockey sticks, does Tech have more talent than Ga. Southern, or the Navy… Face it, Tech gets the players who the BIG schools pass over!!! Also, the coach is NOT the one on the field, its the PLAYERS… so what if the coach knows football, the players are the ones who will determine if they win or lose, by their actions on the field.. GT football, what a JOKE !!!!!
By coaching
August 26, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this
Who in the ACC is a better coach than Johnson? Beamer and Grobe maybe. That’s about it. The ACC is up for grabs these days and Tech is in a great position to take it. Paul Johnson isn’t just a triple option guy, he one the best in-game college coaches around. Johnson threw the ball at Hawaii, ran the ball at Navy, at won like 90 % of his games at Southern. I’m pretty sure he can adapt the system to the personnel. Gailey ran the ball about 65 % of the time. Johnson will probably run it about 70%, the only difference is Johnson’s offense is setup for big plays, Gailey’s was not.
By BringItOn
August 26, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this
You’re right Ruthless One. It is a blog for how well Tech will do this year. 3-9! Got a problem with that puzzy?
By Wallace
August 26, 2008 2:19 PM | Link to this
Ruthless One: Let me get this straight…
“Must be embarrasing to think that such a crappy program such as Tech has still managed more success across all the sports as a whole and yes not to mention more championships in football.”
It’s really not emabarrasing at all when one stops to consider that it’s not true. Please itemize the “success” that tech has enjoyed over UGA in “all the sports as a whole.” Considering that Tech has ONE championship that’s recognized by the NCAA, I think you’re barking up the wrong tree.
And in your retort, please, please remember to mention the three national championships in football that were self-awarded back in the days before facemasks. No tech argument would be complete without that devastating talking point.
By Gaybo Shaw
August 26, 2008 2:25 PM | Link to this
I didn’t care about the lack of recent tradition and success at teck when I committed to them over Wofford and Furman. I didn’t care that we’d never won a consensus national title in anything other than women’s tennis. I didn’t care about all the asians (nay, I loved it!)and ugly girls (I like shopping with them, but that’s ALL people!) on campus. All I cared about was the teck degree and telling people that I had passed Survey of Calculus, and acting like this was the pinnacle of academic achievement. Well, that and Paul Johnson is a sexy beast!! I’m going to reward my good decision making with a round of naked pushups. Talk to you later!!!
By Georgia Fan
August 26, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this
Georgia plays the past two BCS champions on consecutive weeks this season and you think we’re nervous about the defending blue turf bowl runner up? Are you flippin’ off your rocker Techies? I submit there isn’t a more delusional fan base in all of sports than Georgia Tech fans. Good grief. Get a clue.
By tech
August 26, 2008 2:29 PM | Link to this
Wallace-
I’m 26 years old. I was alive when Tech won the national championship in football and I remember it well. In fact I’ve seen Alabama, FSU, Tennessee, Florida, LSU, Clemson, and Miami win one also. Funny, I’ve never seen Georgia win one. I have seen them win 26 straight preseason national championships as declared from that great fanbase of theirs though. Go away.
By Cashfan
August 26, 2008 2:29 PM | Link to this
JD, I brought up academic standards because it is true. The SEC powerhouses (+ Georgia) have had WAY more NCAA violations for academic and recruiting violations. Always have and always will! And the standards for the ACC overall are still higher than those of the SEC overall. What happened at Tech in 2002 was an error of misinterpretation that Tech self-reported and it was considered minor…and it was Tech’s first and only academic issue. SEC schools have repeatedly been caught (not self-reported) for major recruiting and academic shenanigans. It’s a fact. As for being a nerd, I’ll take that over being a half-wit Dawg fan any time. Thanks!
By Yellow Jacket Alley
August 26, 2008 2:32 PM | Link to this
coaching: Going strictly by results, I would have to put Butch Davis (BCS bowl win), Tommy Bowden (12-0 season at Tulane, something Johnson hasn’t accomplished), and Tom O’Brien (consistent winner at BC, not exactly a recruiting hotbed) ahead of CPJ at this point. All have accomplished more thus far. This is Johnson’s first big gig, so it’s pretty irresponsible to anoint him the savior just yet. Talk to Georgia fans about how the “savior” from I-AA football (Jim Donnan) worked out for them. Just give it time.
By tj
August 26, 2008 2:32 PM | Link to this
oh my goodness, I just glanced at Tech’s Schedule LOL…. I say 2 victories Top, and that is against Gardner-webb and Duke LOL…. No way you guys beat N. Carolina, Clemson, FSU, Miami, Jackson St, oh, and the ever mighty UGA LOL !!!!
By Georgia Fan
August 26, 2008 2:37 PM | Link to this
Wallace-
I’m 26 years old. I was alive when Tech won the national championship in football and I remember it well. In fact I’ve seen Alabama, FSU, Tennessee, Florida, LSU, Clemson, and Miami win one also. Funny, I’ve never seen Georgia win one. I have seen them win 26 straight preseason national championships as declared from that great fanbase of theirs though. Go away.
How many times have you cried yourself to sleep after yet another crushing lost to the Dawgs? I count 19.
By Sam
August 26, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this
Tell us about the biggest ACADEMIC FRAUD case in ACC history Cashfan. What was it again? 52 counts I think. And didn’t Lack of Institutional Control factor in too Cashfan? LMAO! And by the way Cashfan. Tech did not self report. They started cooperating after the NCAA crawled all over you. And then tried to call 7 years of systematic channeling of players into crip non degree courses an “oversight”. That was one hell of a penalty the NCAA stuck on your cheating azzes for “oversight”, huh, Cashfan.
By tj is an idiot
August 26, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this
TJ,
Dwyer - offers from Georgia, FSU, Florida, Auburn Nesbitt - offers from Georgia, FSU, Auburn Jones - offers from Clemson, Florida Burnett - offers from Georgia, Tennesse, Alabama Morgan - offers from Miami, Ohio State, Penn State
I could go on, but are you saying Navy and Southern has that kind of talent? Please show me. I’m sorry you had to go out to Dallas to get a pudgy faced QB and to New Jersey to find a running back. At Tech we get them from our own backyard.
By Wallace
August 26, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this
tech - funny, I seem to remember Colorado winning the national championship in 1990, not some team that tied a terrible UNC team and beat a crappy Nebraska team in a second tier bowl, i.e. Tech. And you failed to address my invitation related to explaining and itemizing just how tech has “managed more success across all the sports as a whole.” I guess that’s S.O.P. at tech though, just try to change the subject, and then when that doesn’t work just start name calling from behind your keyboard. Enjoy your fumbleriffic high school offense.
By west coast
August 26, 2008 2:46 PM | Link to this
In the past the seven win seasons were achieved with a boring offense and strong defense. There were sufficient missed opportunities on offense to account for some of the turnovers that might occur in the new system. The last time I looked we ran the ball in the past more that we passed and could not make the big plays. These are smart kids and I expect them to do everything they can to win. If the other team beats us and we gave it our best physically and mentally, so be it. I expect to see a savvy, hustling, well coached team on the field at all times capable of making mid game adjustments. If that occurs, the 8, 9 wins will take care of itself.
By Mark Richt
August 26, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this
tj is an idiot - the bottom line is that we offered Dwyer as a contingency plan when we thought Caleb King was an Auburn lock. We offered Nesbitt as a safety and he wanted to play quarterback. Burnette’s older brother went to Georgia and Morgan wanted to be differetnt (not to mention he’d be fifth string safety at Georgia). We didn’t offer Roddy Jones because we don’t let midgets play football. They could get hurt for God’s sake. Does this clear things up for you?
By fleming
August 26, 2008 2:54 PM | Link to this
Don’t be so sure about the defense staying rested with the new option offense. If CPJ’s offense runs like as it did at Georgia Southern, time of possession will usually go to the opposing team. Many times the offense will score very fast with a lot of 1-3 minute drives. When they don’t score they runs plays so fast that a 10 play drive only takes a few minutes.
By Compliance Officer
August 26, 2008 2:55 PM | Link to this
At a July 2003 meeting to discuss the eligibility of five or six football players, football coach Chan Gailey “explained that he could not weather another academic-related scandal and try to recruit quality student-athletes to Georgia Tech,” the suit says. “Defendant New repeatedly warned Defendant Braine that another eligibility scandal, if brought to the public’s attention, would ruin Georgia Tech’s athletic and academic reputations.” Olivett argued Tech had an obligation to self-report rules violations, but Braine and New rejected his advice, the suit says. Clough, who was not present at the meeting, and Braine “made the decision to conceal these facts from the NCAA and the public,” the suit says. Less than a year later, the NCAA enforcement staff learned of Tech’s rules violations via an anonymous tip and informed the school, which conducted an audit of its athletes’ academic records. In the end, the NCAA ruled Tech had allowed 17 ineligible athletes in four sports to compete. Tech and the NCAA said the violations were inadvertent, and Tech blamed its failure to uncover the problem in 2003 on communications failures within the department. The NCAA characterized Tech’s 2003 self-investigation as “inadequate,” but the NCAA never accused the school of intentionally concealing any wrongdoing.
Whoops there it is Cashfan. Tech is the cesspool of the ACC. Academic Fraud, rape, felony drug trafficking, heroin overdose. What’s next? An al Queda cell maybe. You guys are really good when it comes to denial. You are definately champs when it comes to that.
By Brent
August 26, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this
Tech, very well said. I’m your age and am glad to say I saw Tech win a NC. Mutt fans our age can’t say that. Good luck ‘between the bushes’ this year mutts.
By Cashfan
August 26, 2008 3:03 PM | Link to this
Well, Sam, you sure used a lot of capital letters to make what the NCAA called a minor case sound huge. If that was the biggest case of academic fraud in ACC history then you just made my point for me. How many SEC schools have been slammed with MUCH greater penalties, some of them multiple times? When are you morons going to face it? Any superiority the SEC has is due to the fact they have lower standards? It’s OK. We all have to grow up some time. As a Tech fan I accept that my favorite team deals with that reality. It makes the victories that much sweeter. Enjoy your day.
By Steven Q. Erkel
August 26, 2008 3:04 PM | Link to this
• INDIANAPOLIS —- The NCAA Division I Infractions Appeals Committee upheld five findings of violations against the Georgia Institute of Technology that involved its athletics program between the 1988-89 and 2004-05 academic years. •
Specifically, the violations centered on 17 student-athletes over a six-year period being certified as making satisfactory progress toward their degrees even though their academic work did not meet the standards established by NCAA bylaws. All 17 student-athletes were improperly certified as eligible through Georgia Tech’s then existing certification process. For example, six student-athletes were allowed to use courses in which they received grades of D even though their majors required a grade of C or higher in order for those courses to count toward their degrees. •
In its November 2005 report, the NCAA Division I Committee on Infractions found that Georgia Tech had allowed a breakdown in its eligibility certification process and also had failed to exercise necessary institutional control. Though the committee felt that the university’s self-imposed penalties were meaningful, the committee levied additional penalties because it believed that the university had obtained a substantial competitive advantage because of the large number of prominent student-athletes who competed while ineligible.
Did you do that?
By Tech97
August 26, 2008 3:06 PM | Link to this
I just hope we can get 6 wins and make it to the Emerald Bowl this year so our bowl appearance record does not get broken.
I know we can beat Gardner-Webb.
I think we can beat Jacksonville State, but they have that LSU quarterback so who knows?
Mississippi State gets stronger each year with Sylvester Croom as coach. They beat Alabama last year and I think they won their bowl game. I do not think we can beat them.
I think we can beat Duke, but I think Duke has a better coach in David Cutcliff than we do so who knows.
North Carolina has a better coach than we do in Butch Davis and this will be his second season so they should be much tougher.
The same is true for Miami with Randy Shannan. They should be much better in his second season.
The Virginia coach and the Wake Forest coach both have a really solid programs established and good players.
The rest of the ACC games we play are against teams that should cream us, especially Clemson and Florida State and Boston College.
We should just quit playing Georgia. They are so much better than we are. I hope we replace them on the schedule with Georgia State. We cannot beat them and I am so tired of losing to them.
We should have hired Bill Curry as our HC. I cannot believe we passed him by and let Georgia State grab him. Obviously he was interested in coaching again. If he can build their program from scratch then he could rebuild ours.
Maybe we will win 6 games, but I would not bet money on it. Would you? I think 2 wins and maybe 2 more if we don’t fumble and get a lucky break.
Face it, we are not a football school anymore.
I am just hoping the basketball team be better this year?
By ATLHokie
August 26, 2008 3:08 PM | Link to this
Never seen a fanbase suffer with such an inferiority complex. Reminds me of an angry midget. Tech will be lucky to win 6 games this year.
By tech
August 26, 2008 3:09 PM | Link to this
Wallace-
I’m not the guy who said Tech is better in all sports as a whole, but without looking it up Tech and Georgia have to be pretty close. I mean, you can throw out Equestrian and Gymnastics because we don’t have those, and most other schools don’t either. Looking at baseball, football, and basketball we have 4 National championships total you have 3. We have 27 conference championships in those 3 while you have 19. You probably have us beat in sports that nobody cares about though.
By surfrider
August 26, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this
We will soon find out whether this year will be good or the next year. One thing is for certain this team and program has more depth now than I can remember. 110 players on the team? 5 QB’s who can play maybe 6 and we will at least need 3 to 5 per year I would think. Depth was a problem at Tech until Bobby Ross started to address it and after a step or two backwards we are now moving forward on that front which is critical. To me the key will be how good is this front 4 on defense as it could be dominating or just good. At the same time the other key is turnovers on these pitches as we can’t fumble 6 times a game and expect to win. The third key will be the passing game. In my opinion we will need to throw the ball 20 to 30 times a game to keep defenses honest and open up the option game. Remember the term we have to establish the run before we can open up the passing game, well it’s vice versa now we have to establish a passing game to open up this option game in some sense. So all this will be decided on the field instead of the blogs, but we should be better on offense than 70-90 in the Country and we should be decent on defense in the say 25-45 range. If those numbers hold up there is no reason we can’t win 7 or more games and really surprise people.
By surfrider
August 26, 2008 3:10 PM | Link to this
We will soon find out whether this year will be good or the next year. One thing is for certain this team and program has more depth now than I can remember. 110 players on the team? 5 QB’s who can play maybe 6 and we will at least need 3 to 5 per year I would think. Depth was a problem at Tech until Bobby Ross started to address it and after a step or two backwards we are now moving forward on that front which is critical. To me the key will be how good is this front 4 on defense as it could be dominating or just good. At the same time the other key is turnovers on these pitches as we can’t fumble 6 times a game and expect to win. The third key will be the passing game. In my opinion we will need to throw the ball 20 to 30 times a game to keep defenses honest and open up the option game. Remember the term we have to establish the run before we can open up the passing game, well it’s vice versa now we have to establish a passing game to open up this option game in some sense. So all this will be decided on the field instead of the blogs, but we should be better on offense than 70-90 in the Country and we should be decent on defense in the say 25-45 range. If those numbers hold up there is no reason we can’t win 7 or more games and really surprise people.
By surfrider
August 26, 2008 3:11 PM | Link to this
We will soon find out whether this year will be good or the next year. One thing is for certain this team and program has more depth now than I can remember. 110 players on the team? 5 QB’s who can play maybe 6 and we will at least need 3 to 5 per year I would think. Depth was a problem at Tech until Bobby Ross started to address it and after a step or two backwards we are now moving forward on that front which is critical. To me the key will be how good is this front 4 on defense as it could be dominating or just good. At the same time the other key is turnovers on these pitches as we can’t fumble 6 times a game and expect to win. The third key will be the passing game. In my opinion we will need to throw the ball 20 to 30 times a game to keep defenses honest and open up the option game. Remember the term we have to establish the run before we can open up the passing game, well it’s vice versa now we have to establish a passing game to open up this option game in some sense. So all this will be decided on the field instead of the blogs, but we should be better on offense than 70-90 in the Country and we should be decent on defense in the say 25-45 range. If those numbers hold up there is no reason we can’t win 7 or more games and really surprise people.
By Dave
August 26, 2008 3:14 PM | Link to this
Not to mention that UGA owns you overall in football, right tech? What are you 12-32 against UGA since 1964?
By Brent is a tool
August 26, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this
Brent: Tech didn’t win the national championship in 1990. Colorado did. Idiot. Good luck playing in front of 18,000 fans in your dump stadium in the ghetto this year nerd.
By Vince
August 26, 2008 3:18 PM | Link to this
Cashfan - “it makes victories that much sweeter”? Victories against who? Gardner Webb? Maybe?
By Moe Ron
August 26, 2008 3:20 PM | Link to this
All you GT fans can continue to gloat about that split 1990 NC. Do you remember how things played out? Colorado was ranked #1 prior to the bowls and pulled out a close win against #4 Notre Dame in the Orange Bowl. GT was #2 and played in the Citrus Bowl (wuss bowl at the time) against an abnormally bad Nebraska team. I think they were ranked #19. Sure, you beat them by a bigger point spread than Colorado beat Notre Dame, but how the heck does #1 (after beating #4) get leap frogged after beating by #2 (after beating #19). Spare me the bad call in the Orange Bowl. Miami has a bigger gripe when the lost to OSU a few years ago.
Bottom line, UGA will make it 8 straight this year. You want to talk about people of a certain age not being able to remember something? You may soon be fielding players who were in elementary school the last time GT defeated UGA. They wouldn’t have even been in preschool if you didn’t count the GT wins when Tech willingly used academically ineligible players. Academic superiority my foot!
By Tech97
August 26, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this
I just hope we can get 6 wins and make it to the Emerald Bowl this year so our bowl appearance record does not get broken.
I know we can beat Gardner-Webb.
I think we can beat Jacksonville State, but they have that LSU quarterback so who knows?
Mississippi State gets stronger each year with Sylvester Croom as coach. They beat Alabama last year and I think they won their bowl game. I do not think we can beat them.
I think we can beat Duke, but I think Duke has a better coach in David Cutcliff than we do so who knows.
North Carolina has a better coach than we do in Butch Davis and this will be his second season so they should be much tougher.
The same is true for Miami with Randy Shannan. They should be much better in his second season.
The Virginia coach and the Wake Forest coach both have a really solid programs established and good players.
The rest of the ACC games we play are against teams that should cream us, especially Clemson and Florida State and Boston College.
We should just quit playing Georgia. They are so much better than we are. I hope we replace them on the schedule with Georgia State. We cannot beat them and I am so tired of losing to them.
We should have hired Bill Curry as our HC. I cannot believe we passed him by and let Georgia State grab him. Obviously he was interested in coaching again. If he can build their program from scratch then he could rebuild ours.
Maybe we will win 6 games, but I would not bet money on it. Would you? I think 2 wins and maybe 2 more if we don’t fumble and get a lucky break.
Face it, we are not a football school anymore.
I am just hoping the basketball team be better this year?
By RAMBLE ON!!!
August 26, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this
ATLHokie how’s prison Mike? Nice to see you get access to the computer…surprised you know how it works though.
When you get out, maybe you can get a job in Coal Mine with the rest of the Hokie Nation.
By Wally Butts
August 26, 2008 3:23 PM | Link to this
Actually Georgia has five national championships in football if we count them like tech does. And I’m not a math major, but…five > four.
By dawgfacedboy
August 26, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this
WOW! That is where your program is? Making predictions as to whether or not you will be average enough to make a bowl game?!?!?! 6-6 teams play in bowl games!!! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! This is a ray of sunshine on such a dreary day!!!!
By Gaybo Shaw
August 26, 2008 3:26 PM | Link to this
I’m finally finished with my naked pushups for the day. Now for some naked situps. Any of you foreign tech students want to hold my feet? Vimal? Patel? Hopsing? Anybody?
By Maddog
August 26, 2008 3:27 PM | Link to this
Cashfan, GT has higher standards? In what? Please don’t try to convince me that Reggie Ball, Stephon Marbury, and other of your “stars” were academically superior than athletes entering ANY SEC or ACC college. People in glass trailers…….
By Dawgman19
August 26, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this
Tech- How many of those championships were after cars and electricity were invented. I laugh everytime I drive by and see the Tech board with the national championships in 191? and other prehistoric years. Well they did split the national title in 90. I guess I have to give them credit. Baseball is a traditional flop and basketball is no powerhouse either. You would trade it all to go back as a young kid and put on that Georgia hat instead of the tech beanie. I smell jealousy. Let’s talk modern day. 11 straight bowl games half of which in stadiums with 30,000 or less people. Losses in baseball regionals year after year. Middle of the pack basketball finishes. Tech athletics is inferior and always will be. Deal with it. But make yourself feel better however you choose. GO DAWGS!! WATCH OUT FOR PERILLOUX
By Cashfan
August 26, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this
Funny that the NCAA (after a throough investigation) called the violations inadvertent. I don’t remember that conclusion being reached in the investigations of SEC schools (and the NCAA is notoriously thorough, about like the IRS) Wonder why they would have come to different conclusions? Because at SEC schools the violations were INTENTIONAL! Also the Tech violations did not bring near the penalties doled out to SEC schools. Why would that be? Because the violations at Tech were inadvertent and minor compared to those in most NCAA cases. Why do you UGA/SEC fans keep trying to compare it to the SYSTEMIC disregard for rules historically shown at so many SEC schools leading to far greater penalties.
My point from the beginning was not that Tech never had a violation. It was that Tech and other ACC schools compete very well with Auburn, UGA, and other SEC schools despite the documented differences in their approach toward the rules.
As for bringing up legal problems, drugs, etc. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE compare the rap sheets for the athletes at both schools. What a joke!! Speaking of being champs at something besides sports! Try again, fleabags.
By GT96
August 26, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this
I agree surfrider. With our depth and talent we should give Duke, N.C. State, Boston College, Virginia, and Maryland a run for their money year in and year out. 3rd place in the Coastal Division on a consistent basis would be heaven on earth for us.
By Moe Ron
August 26, 2008 3:34 PM | Link to this
Who has the most NCs? Who has a better head to head record in all sports? Who has the smarter athletes? Who shot JR? Tech definitely has us hands down on one thing - bowl appearances on a BLUE field! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
By mark
August 26, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this
Surfrider- you have 5 to 6 QBs that can play? Wow that’s more than every other school in the country!! You also think you should rotate 3-5 QBs a year?? Wow! Sounds like a recipe for success to me!! snicker
By Tony
August 26, 2008 3:36 PM | Link to this
Dawgs How many points does a 3 point shot count,how many halfs are there in a ball game, who is the greatest assistant coach. Talk about easy courses full of georgia athletes, 2 of which continued to play after you were caught. Talk about loss of institutional control. What a joke. But I guess “everybody does it.” Go to Hell
By bb
August 26, 2008 3:36 PM | Link to this
LOL, it’s hilarious to see a dawg fan call tech’s OOC schedule weak. He doesn’t even seem to realize what that says about UGA (who, the last I checked, is on that OOC schedule) and the SEC (another is Miss St). Two quality BCS games OOC is better than 75% of the other BCS conference teams manage.
Playing Sun Belt teams (a particular favorite of SEC teams) is only barely better than playing FCS teams.
BTW, on average ACC teams play more OOC vs. BCS schools EVERY year than any other conference and their record against them is right around .500 every year (just like the other BCS conferences in BCS OOC games).
By Joshua Barlowe
August 26, 2008 3:37 PM | Link to this
Tech97 - Nice job by a UGAy fan masking as a Tech fan.
Your superior writing skills made that one obvious.
Go get a job.
By Wallace
August 26, 2008 3:39 PM | Link to this
Cashfan - If you would have come out earlier and just admitted that you can’t read, it would have saved everybody a lot of time. Please refer back to Urkel’s treatise. Tech’s administration was complicit with these academic transgressions only until the NCAA had their boot on North Avenue’s neck. Geez. You people are the biggest bunch of sanctimonious, hypocritical wastes of oxygen I have ever been around.
By crazy4gt
August 26, 2008 3:41 PM | Link to this
Dawg Fans - Congratulations. You’ve proved that you’ve beaten GT recently. You’ve proved that you are also illiterate, arrogant, assinine and idiotic. This is a GT blog. I can’t believe how many of you dawg spankers spend your time on a GT site. Just once I’d like to read some honest dialogue without all this childish idiotic banter. Go back to your doghouse.
By GT45
August 26, 2008 3:42 PM | Link to this
Matt- I think you could just open up your blog with “Tech,” and that would be enough bait to bring in all these POS anus sniffers! At least there are some posts worthy of reading stuck in the mix from time to time.
By chapelbell2
August 26, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this
Cashfan - you want to compare rapsheets of athletes at Tech and Georgia? Fine, let’s compare.
Georgia’s athletes - an assortment of jaywalking, misdemeanor traffic violations and minor in possession of alcohol arrests.
Tech’s athletes - rape, possession of marijuana, DUI, possession of felony quantity of marijuana with the intent to distribute, heroine overdoses.
Yep, there’s really no comparison. You techies got us on being the bigger thugs.
By dantheman
August 26, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this
It seems chic to say this offense will overcome other shortcomings this year. Like you said, Navy went 2-10 the 1st year.Tenuta will be missed. This team will be lucky to win 5 games and Miss. St. will not be one of them
By dantheman
August 26, 2008 3:43 PM | Link to this
It seems chic to say this offense will overcome other shortcomings this year. Like you said, Navy went 2-10 the 1st year.Tenuta will be missed. This team will be lucky to win 5 games and Miss. St. will not be one of them
By dantheman
August 26, 2008 3:44 PM | Link to this
It seems chic to say this offense will overcome other shortcomings this year. Like you said, Navy went 2-10 the 1st year.Tenuta will be missed. This team will be lucky to win 5 games and Miss. St. will not be one of them
By Doug
August 26, 2008 3:44 PM | Link to this
Cashfan, the above posted comment is verbatim from the NCAA. Look it up. And 12-32 since 1964 against UGA probably does fit your definition of “compete very well”, Cashfan. The NCAA didn’t by any stretch of the imagination consider your cheating inadvertant and minor. The NCAA takes playing ineligible players to gain a competitive advantage very seriously as reflected in the penalty they imposed on you.
• INDIANAPOLIS —- The NCAA Division I Infractions Appeals Committee upheld five findings of violations against the Georgia Institute of Technology that involved its athletics program between the 1988-89 and 2004-05 academic years. • Specifically, the violations centered on 17 student-athletes over a six-year period being certified as making satisfactory progress toward their degrees even though their academic work did not meet the standards established by NCAA bylaws. All 17 student-athletes were improperly certified as eligible through Georgia Tech’s then existing certification process. For example, six student-athletes were allowed to use courses in which they received grades of D even though their majors required a grade of C or higher in order for those courses to count toward their degrees. • In its November 2005 report, the NCAA Division I Committee on Infractions found that Georgia Tech had allowed a breakdown in its eligibility certification process and also had failed to exercise necessary institutional control. Though the committee felt that the university’s self-imposed penalties were meaningful, the committee levied additional penalties because it believed that the university had obtained a substantial competitive advantage because of the large number of prominent student-athletes who competed while ineligible.
Nowhere does it say Inadvertently, or unintentionally “allowed a breakdown”. If a whistleblower hadn’t ratted them out to the NCAA your cesspool of an Athletic Department would be doing it today. Facts are facts Cashfan.
By Michael
August 26, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this
Tony - that was a P.E. class. What questions are there on a P.E. test at Tech? I can venture to guess…
1) How many times will you be pantsed on the playground?
2) How many asthma inhalers does it require to play right (deep) field?
3) How much elasticity is required in your rec-specs headband?
4) How many times has Tech beaten Georgia with eligible players since 1990?
I can be an authority on the last question. ZERO.
By crazy4gt
August 26, 2008 3:49 PM | Link to this
Two words - Jan Kemp
By College Sportsman
August 26, 2008 3:51 PM | Link to this
The 1990 - 1991 school year was very exciting.
I remember Georgia winning a National Championship in baseball.
I remember Tech winning a Co-National Championship in football.
However, the NCAA recognizes Georgia’s and does not recognize Tech’s.
By GT45 AnusSniffer
August 26, 2008 3:53 PM | Link to this
My good friends over at the UGS site wants to confirms the Saturday Evening Nambla meeting at Morris Hall, its at 6:00pm…We anticipate about a thousand folks being there, BB, Wallace and Doug will be available on this site to answer any further questions. We are having speakers, a banquet with music and dancing afterwards. Hope to see ya’ll there.
By Jimbo
August 26, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this
crazy4gt: Two more words - Reggie Ball
By crazy4gt
August 26, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this
2 more words - Jim Harrick
By Dawg
August 26, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this
Two words - Emerald Bowl
By Bob
August 26, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this
Sorry Cashfan, you can’t pound your chest about academic superiority and then turn around and dismiss academically ineligible players as a harmless “inadvertent” oversight. Nobody is buying that bag of goods. Intentional or not, people weren’t doing their jobs. If Tech takes academics so seriously how did they allow this to happen?
Yep, the Techies talk a big game but when it comes right down to it all this academic talk is nothing more than an excuse. They know it deep down inside. Just be honest with yourselves.
By crazy4gt
August 26, 2008 3:56 PM | Link to this
Georgia reported 14 NCAA secondary violations in the first six months of 2008, according to information obtained by the Banner- Herald in an open records request.
The violations involved eight of Georgia’s athletic programs.
Football had five violations while track and field and gymnastics had two each.
By might mike
August 26, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this
These things always deteriorate into the same nonsense, don’t they. Matt Winklejohn writes a story that suggests Tech might be better than people think and the pathological dirt bags drift in to set things right, to make sure ACC fans in general and Georgia Tech fans in particular remember that the almighty SEC is the superior conference. Which it probably is: The SEC consistently produces some of the most competitive teams; year after year SEC teams dominate bowl games and the TOP 25. The conference has hired great coaches like Mark Richt, Phil Fulmer, Steve Spurrier, Urban Meyer, Les Miles, Sylvester Croom, Nick Saban Tommy Tuberville and even Rich Brooks. SEC schools attract top notch talent with every recruiting class. But the dirt bags are never satisfied with that. No, that’s not good enough. Not only do they want to wallow in their good fortune over the last several years, they want to make sure ACC and Tech fans continue to founder in the backwash of college football; they want to portray the ACC as a run down trailer park and the SEC as a gated community with a golf course, swimming pool, equestrian center and tennis courts. Remember ACC fans, you are less than irrelevant stacked against the mighty SEC; you exist in the substrata along with the worms, fungi and bacteria; the SEC is a standard you shall not attain because your schools are innately inferior, your brains genetically smaller, and your athletes are merely the detritus SEC schools didn’t want in the first place.
Normal, well adjusted SEC fans know better, but it’s just the dirt bags we’re addressing here, the nattering nabobs of negativity, to borrow a phrase from Mr. Agnew, the mealy mouthed cretins who say the same thing over and over and over again and yet say nothing.
Come November, we’ll see.
By Doug
August 26, 2008 3:58 PM | Link to this
Your brilliance is astounding Barlowe. Stop being such a little wuss. Maybe YOU should get a job or at least quit cutting 5th grade.
By crazy4gt
August 26, 2008 3:58 PM | Link to this
http://www.ncaa.org/wps/ncaa?ContentID=2613
By Tony
August 26, 2008 3:59 PM | Link to this
I never reported this before, but I was attacked and molested by a mandingo whille visiting the campus there to see my beau in 2005. Now, after a few years of therapy, I can go on believing All peopleare good, and it was an isolated incident. Love each otheras brothers, I;m still sore.
By Joshua Barlowe
August 26, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this
Since we’re playing the 2 word game and I am so superior to everyone else here, how about Joe Hamilton. I win as always.
By STINKS
August 26, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this
It smells like dog poo in here. Don’t you puppies have some other team you can go bother. Like your “rivals” Auburn, Florida, and Tennessee.
By Observer
August 26, 2008 4:04 PM | Link to this
Hey Wallace - How embarrassing is it that your beloved program wasn’t even good enough to win a “self-awarded” national championship? Bend over and take that talking point dawggie style.
By George O'Liar
August 26, 2008 4:05 PM | Link to this
Five words -
Stephon “Georgia Tech University” Marbury
By Cashfan
August 26, 2008 4:06 PM | Link to this
I can’t read? Try this again from a Dawg poster: (from Compliance Officer) “Tech and the NCAA said the violations were inadvertent”. I know what “inadvertent” means. Do you? I’ll type slowly so you can read it. It means “not intentional”. That’s what the NCAA said after their investigation. That’s the main reason Tech was not slammed as badly as many other NCAA teams.
Now, tell me again how Tech’s problem compares to the snaky life in the SEC?
By Tony
August 26, 2008 4:07 PM | Link to this
Micheal
Georgia Tech doesn’t have any P.E.classes
By Mandingo
August 26, 2008 4:09 PM | Link to this
Tony: will you be visiting Tech again anytime soon.
I’ve been thinking about you since 2005 and would love to see you again.
I am a Yellow Jacket wide receiver now.
I remember when I was a tight end.
By Joshua Barlowe
August 26, 2008 4:10 PM | Link to this
GT will be in the NC game within 2 years.
By Wallace
August 26, 2008 4:11 PM | Link to this
Observer - you stay classy. Georgia could certainly claim five national titles, three more than most of us recognize. But, at Georgia, we celebrate LEGITIMATE championships, not titles that are self-proclaimed. Tech, on the other hand, in order to legitimize their pitiful existence, lays claim to three national championships, recognized only by tech, awarded back when leather helmets were equipment. Does this clear things up, or should I speak slower?
By ugablows
August 26, 2008 4:12 PM | Link to this
this blog serves as a daily reminder for me that ugay fans are THE worst, most obnoxious, biggest collection of @ssholes in all of college football.
By Michael
August 26, 2008 4:15 PM | Link to this
Tony - I thought every state-sponsored school required P.E. No? Does this have anything to do with the lion’s share of tech’s students having horrific experiences in high school gym class? Did the state step in and excuse tech from physical fitness? Seeing as how the Governor for the past 32 years has been a Georgia graduate, I doubt that.
By Joshua Barlowe
August 26, 2008 4:16 PM | Link to this
Why are UGA fans on our blog?
Don’t they have better things to do?
By DMC
August 26, 2008 4:17 PM | Link to this
The UGA folks sure are busy talking about Tech! You’d think that if Tech were preseason #1, we’d be talking about our football team… not the in-state rival.
I see no reason for Tech to not win 8 games this year… I don’t think Jax St will be able to score against the D, even with the LSU cast-off for a QB. I’m more worried about BC than VT at this point b/c BCs D is pretty good. I think GT wins at VT (they had too much turnover at key positions)… No way Sean Glennon goes nuts against us again (Tenuta’s gambling D played into his hands last year, not their talent. I don’t think Miss St is that good, even though they went to a bowl last year. Duke is still Duke, and Gardner-Webb won’t be able to keep up. That’s 5-1 for the 1st half of the season, before the offense really gets comfortable with the spread option, which will happen just in time for Clemson.
I think this will be a close game, but I have to admit that Clemson’s overall talent will probably win. UVa will be terrible, and FSU hasn’t done anything the last 5 years, so I think Tech will win those. That’s 7-2 going into the last 3 games. Figure we lose at UNC (though that’s debatable), win against Miami, and lose a close one to UGA (who will have the same record as Tech coming into the game), and it’s an 8-4 year, pushing us to pre-season top-15 for 2009.
David
By tj
August 26, 2008 4:23 PM | Link to this
tech is also a rival of UGA, the oldest RIVAL I might add :)
By Larry New - Mr. GT
August 26, 2008 4:25 PM | Link to this
I represent everything that is Georgia Tech.
I am all for hiding things from the NCAA rather than self reporting - unless of course someone tips off the NCAA - then let’s self report real fast so we don’t get punished as badly.
I have no character and lie at the drop of a hat. I have no concept of right and wrong and will say whtever is necessary to avoid the consequences of my actions and to avoid the truth.
I am the prime Yellow Jacket.
By Ernie
August 26, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this
Cashfan, what is it you don’t comprehend. Tech argued that it was inadvertent. The NCAA ruled otherwise. I looked it up Cashfan. Tech used the inadvertent argument as a defense and the NCAA wasn’t buying it. Nowhere in the NCAA ruling will you find the word “inadvertent” when punishment was handed down. Tech cheated Cashfan. They got caught. They got the worst academic based probation in ACC history handed to them. Nothing inadvertent about that dumbazz.
By OnceAgain
August 26, 2008 4:31 PM | Link to this
• INDIANAPOLIS —- The NCAA Division I Infractions Appeals Committee upheld five findings of violations against the Georgia Institute of Technology that involved its athletics program between the 1988-89 and 2004-05 academic years. • Specifically, the violations centered on 17 student-athletes over a six-year period being certified as making satisfactory progress toward their degrees even though their academic work did not meet the standards established by NCAA bylaws. All 17 student-athletes were improperly certified as eligible through Georgia Tech’s then existing certification process. For example, six student-athletes were allowed to use courses in which they received grades of D even though their majors required a grade of C or higher in order for those courses to count toward their degrees. • In its November 2005 report, the NCAA Division I Committee on Infractions found that Georgia Tech had allowed a breakdown in its eligibility certification process and also had failed to exercise necessary institutional control. Though the committee felt that the university’s self-imposed penalties were meaningful, the committee levied additional penalties because it believed that the university had obtained a substantial competitive advantage because of the large number of prominent student-athletes who competed while ineligible.
Cashfan do you see the word “inadvertent” anywhere in the above?
By Againandagainandagain
August 26, 2008 4:36 PM | Link to this
INDIANAPOLIS (Ticker) - The NCAA on Thursday placed Georgia Tech on two years’ probation and made the Yellow Jackets vacate records for allowing academically ineligible players to compete in four sports over several school years.
A total of 17 student-athletes on the football, women’s swimming and men’s and women’s track teams played between the 1998-99 and 2004-05 academic years despite failing to meet NCAA standards, the organization said.
All but six of the athletes were on the football team.
“Many of these student-athletes were prominent members of the team, including multiple-year starters who had received conference and national recognition for their athletic performances,” NCAA Division I Committee on Infractions chairman Gene A. Marsh said.
The NCAA accepted Georgia Tech’s self-imposed football scholarship cuts, including six for both 2005-06 and 2006-07, but the organization added a limit of 79 scholarships - six fewer than the maximum - for 2006-07 and 2007-08 after determining that the initial limit did not affect total scholarships for 2005-06.
The NCAA said that Georgia Tech “investigated the matter in 2003, but failed to uncover the full scope of the problem.”
Further, the organization said the Yellow Jackets’ “failure to have properly trained certification officers and the institution’s inability to adequately investigate itself compelled the committee to determine that this case constituted a lack of institutional control over its athletics program.”
Nowhere does it say inadvertent LACK OF INSTITUTIONAL CONTROL Cashfan.
By Vincent Dooley
August 26, 2008 4:39 PM | Link to this
I’ve never bought a thing. I just put it on my UGAY Credit Card and the dumbarzes keep paying for it. Nice, Go Dawgs!
By 2ndTierTech
August 26, 2008 4:45 PM | Link to this
Tech is so far gone football wise that they can cheat and still not win. They fall farther and farther behind and just can’t accept it guys. Give em a break. Just be happy to kick their little sissie azzes every year and enjoy watching the Tech caps flying out car windows, see the spit flying from their angry lips, the tires screeching as they leave the stadium, and enjoy the incessant whining, bitc5ing, and excuse making for the next 365 days. Laugh at em when they talk about all their talent and depth when the next season rolls around and how they are going to beat UGA but never do. UGA owns em and will always own em. Enjoy that guys. It’s priceless.
By The NCAA
August 26, 2008 4:51 PM | Link to this
OK, lets make it clear for the Techies:
• INDIANAPOLIS —- The NCAA Division I Infractions Appeals Committee upheld five findings of violations against the Georgia Institute of Technology that involved its athletics program between the 1988-89 and 2004-05 academic years. • Specifically, the violations centered on 17 student-athletes over a six-year period being certified as making satisfactory progress toward their degrees even though their academic work did not meet the standards established by NCAA bylaws. All 17 student-athletes were improperly certified as eligible through Georgia Tech’s then existing certification process. For example, six student-athletes were allowed to use courses in which they received grades of D even though their majors required a grade of C or higher in order for those courses to count toward their degrees. • In its November 2005 report, the NCAA Division I Committee on Infractions found that Georgia Tech had allowed a breakdown in its eligibility certification process and also had failed to exercise necessary institutional control. Though the committee felt that the university’s self-imposed penalties were meaningful, the committee levied additional penalties because it believed that the university had obtained a substantial competitive advantage because of the large number of prominent student-athletes who competed while ineligible.
Did you find the lack of institutional control this time?
By Joshua Barlowe
August 26, 2008 4:53 PM | Link to this
I’m ordering you mutts off my blog. Understand? You obviously don’t know who I am.
By Moe Ron
August 26, 2008 4:55 PM | Link to this
crazy4gt, two more words….
George O’Liary
By Josh H
August 26, 2008 5:05 PM | Link to this
To Michael:
States require a WELLNESS class. Which means you have to learn how to eat properly, and generally what STDs will do to you and how prevalent they are. Its not a gym class. The first smaller university that I went to did require a 1 hour PE elective. Tech does not.
Tech did require a swimming class back in the day, that was generally nicknamed “Drowning 101”.
Anyways, I’d rather not jump into this NCAA sanctions discussion, but FSU had several athletes who cheated in the past season. Not only are they getting a relative slap on the wrist, but they also get to retake the course. No F for their grade point average.
By Wallace
August 26, 2008 5:07 PM | Link to this
Cashfan? Cashfan? Got any other lies for us to refute?
(crickets)
By Paddy
August 26, 2008 5:14 PM | Link to this
J Barlow … your are an angry young lady. You don’t have to root for Tech or anyone else for that matter. You have issues that need some help solving. Blog back when you are feeling better.
By Walter Hill
August 26, 2008 5:21 PM | Link to this
DMC every team you listed as a win accept GW and Jax St. is rated ahead of you. Miss St. is rated substantially higher. How is it that Tech “should” beat those teams. Realistically, the only sure wins on your schedule are Gardner Webb and Jax St. BC,UVA and Duke are pickems. VT and UGA will be beatdowns, maybe Clemson too. UNC is much better this year. So what is it that you know that those guys in the coaches poll didn’t.
By Michael
August 26, 2008 5:33 PM | Link to this
Walter - what does logic have to do with this? These are tech fans we are talking about. The words “logic” and “Tech fans talking football” have never collided in the same sentence.
By GTgrad78
August 26, 2008 5:44 PM | Link to this
As long as Mark Richt is at UGA they will be loaded. Maybe beating them once or twice every 10 years or so is all we can expect. Competing well against our conference rivals and going to better bowls is realistic. Face it. We are smack in the middle of SEC country when it comes to recruiting. And admit it or not, being in Atlanta is detrimental. It is also doubtful that we can ever put 40,000 Tech fans in our own stadium. That hurts. The big boys will get the bigger, faster, stronger, athletes. This is now. Not the 60s or even the 90s. Our reality is very different now. And Paul Johnson and all the Xs and Os in the world won’t change that.
By reality check
August 26, 2008 5:45 PM | Link to this
crazy4gt it is very ironic that you would mention Jan Kemp.
The Jan Kemp case was about wrongful discharge. Georgia did not run afoul of any NCAA rules at that time because the NCAA had rules that permitted remedial studies in their definition of satisfactory progress. As a result of that case Georgia suffered no sanctions but the NCAA dramatically changed the rules.
Those are the very rules Georgia Tech ran afoul of that cost all those Tech players’ eligibility.
So Tech lost players to the Jan Kemp episode, but Georgia didn’t.
By Glen Burns
August 26, 2008 5:50 PM | Link to this
I’ve been watching Hurricane Gustav and because of the latest change in the path of this storm, Atlanta could get 3 to 4 inches of rain dumped on it Thursday night. Keep your fingers crossed. This storm has had more changes in direction than GT has had football coaches.
By Bobby Johnson
August 26, 2008 5:55 PM | Link to this
Coach Johnson this is Bobby Johnson. We need a Homecoming opponent. Interested?
By Record Keeper
August 26, 2008 6:00 PM | Link to this
Do you guys realize that Tech has never beaten Mark Richt. Never. Not as a Coordinator or HC. Talk about being owned. Wonder why GT wasn’t on his list of “places I’d like to be a Head Coach”?
By Coach Cecil Flowe
August 26, 2008 6:06 PM | Link to this
Coach Paul Johnson, this is Cecil Flowe from Parkview High School. We need us a homecoming opponent. Interested?
By wreckmaniac
August 26, 2008 6:07 PM | Link to this
Who cares what offense they run ? Football is won by defense. All offense can do is lose games. Lets hope for a great defensive season and few turnovers.
By Coach Cecil Flowe
August 26, 2008 6:07 PM | Link to this
Coach Paul Johnson, this is Cecil Flowe from Parkview High School. We need us a homecoming opponent. Interested? You run the same offense as most of our opponents, only at a less effective level, so I thought it would be a good fit. Think it over.
By ccrider
August 26, 2008 6:14 PM | Link to this
Wallace and all the other UGA Fans in Denial: GO to the NCAA website and see that they recognize officialy 3 National Championships in Football for Ga. Tech, one of which is shared with Colorado. END OF DISCUSSION!
By So What
August 26, 2008 6:27 PM | Link to this
Meaning what ccrider? That you have a 1/2 (half azz) NC? That’s appropriate. Everything associated with Tech football is half azzed. So what other self esteem booster do you have today, loser? Maybe in your next dream it will turn into a consensus NC. But then it would be a wet dream for you wouldn’t it ccrider?
By TrainWreckOnN.Avenue
August 26, 2008 6:34 PM | Link to this
ccrider, stop making love to those 3 NCs that seem to be the sum total of your football self esteem. Remove all 3 of them from your azz and see if collectively they can miraculously equate to 1 victory over UGA before this decade ends.
By Tom Watts
August 26, 2008 6:42 PM | Link to this
Ok ccrider, so you have 2 1/2 NCs. Want to place a bet on which team in this state gets the first BCS NC?
By Recruits Matter
August 26, 2008 6:49 PM | Link to this
Oppossing recruiter to bluechip skill player. “Go to Tech, forget the NFL. They won’t be calling”.
By Jokers Wild
August 26, 2008 6:53 PM | Link to this
What do you call an undersized lineman at Georgia Tech?
A: the B back.
By Ramble On
August 26, 2008 7:06 PM | Link to this
CPJ has put the sting back into gt football. Hey if it works for Pee Wee Football it ought to work in the ACC. :(
By Popeye Doyle
August 26, 2008 7:20 PM | Link to this
I’d rather be a lamp post at Georgia Tech than the president of the University of Georgia. You cretins just can’t grasp that, can you? Go sniff somebody else’s behind, Gator b***.
By Osama Bin Jacket
August 26, 2008 7:46 PM | Link to this
I have received admittance to the Georgia Institute of Technology. I will join other infidels there to supplement the existing sleeper cell currently there. Combined, we have a solid chance of beating the University of Georgia before this century is over. Praise be Allah.
By President Michael Adams
August 26, 2008 7:49 PM | Link to this
Popeye Doyle - thank you for your classy comments. You embody all that is Georgia Tech. Now, back to your original statement. Would you like to compare tax returns with me? Didn’t think so. All is not lost though. I read “DragonCon” is coming to Atlanta. I’m sure you and all the other tech students are brimming with anticipation and excitement.
By ccrider
August 26, 2008 7:56 PM | Link to this
So What, Tom Watts and TrainWreck: THE TRUTH HURTS! Yes the Dawgs are on a roll right now, but as history teaches us IT don’t last forever. Look at the lean years at Florida, Alabama, Notre Dame, Southern Cal, Texas, Etc. Georgia is riding high now, but the worm will turn and the UGA/TECH series will be closer. I mean look at the close calls you had in recent years when we were stuck with Chan Gailey AND his choice at QB of Reggie Ball. Give us a decent QB and your win streak is over. The Gap is not as big as you think and it will get closer in the near future. SO, enjoy it while you can!
By Jacketman
August 26, 2008 8:12 PM | Link to this
A Paul Johson coached team will have good team chemistry and play for the well being of the team. A Paul Johnson coached team will play hard. A Paul Johnson coached team will win!!!!!!! Go Jackets!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By Mike
August 26, 2008 8:43 PM | Link to this
Another good laugh, haa haaa ha ha -Tech going to a bowl game, haaaaa haaaaa haa ha ! Oh God my side is hurting ,haaaaa ha ha ha ha ! Please ,please stop before I pee myself.
By truth
August 26, 2008 8:58 PM | Link to this
sec blah, blah,; missouri smacked arkansa and michigan beat florida in bowl games
By Old GT Nut
August 26, 2008 9:39 PM | Link to this
2008 GT Bowl picture comes down to this: Orange Bowl, Gator Bowl, or Peach(Chik Fil A) Bowl.
GT has an EXCELLENT chance to win ACC-Coastal in 2008. That will guarantee Gator Bowl or Peach Bowl. I believe ACC Title game will be GT vs. WF or FSU. Daddy Bowden is gonna take Junior out to the woodshed this year. Count on it.
ACC-Coastal is VT, Miami, UNC, GT, Duke, UVA. VT’s whole 2007 defense & half the 2007 offense are GONE people. GONE. GONE. GONE. And, today Beamer redshirted QB Taylor which really means Beamer isnt gonna waste a year of Taylor’s eligibility on a season that EVEN HE KNOWS is gonna be a TOTAL BUST. VT is gonna be FLAT OUT awful this year. 2007, UNC couldn’t beat GT after 4 GT fumbles, and really bad GT play. GT will beat UNC in 2008. Duke will be a little better becuase of new HC Cutcliffe. Miami is still trying to sort out their mess, only slightly better in 2008. UVA will also be a complete mess.
Do you really think CPJ is gonna let GT give up 400+ yds passing to BC this year? Do you think CPJ is gonna give up 350+ yds passing and 5 INTs to VT this year? I don’t think so!
That leaves GT as the BEST POSITIONED team to win ACC-Coastal. GT will win close at BC on Sept 6th. Then, GT will ROUT VT in Blacksburg on Sept 13th.
All that said, the Gator Bowl is a LOCK, with Orange Bowl a distinct possibility. Peach Bowl prefers ACC-SEC teams not from Atlanta for the hotel/hospitality revenue.
All you posters that keep thinking 2008 is be some kind of “rebuilding year” are totally clueless. Folks, this is gonna be a “reloading year.” GT defense is going to be THE BEST in the whole ACC this year, and is simply going to CRUSH every single offense in the ACC-Coastal. EVERY…SINGLE…ONE. The only question will be, by how many TDs will GT win, because CPJ’s offense is gonna score… A LOT.
So, quit your whining and start getting FIRED UP. The beatings will now commence. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By the truth
August 26, 2008 9:41 PM | Link to this
The truth? UGA is 7-6 in its last 13 SEC games. You are the product of being a good team pushed by the media because they are tired of putting USC, Ohio State, and Oklahoma at #1. I can’t wait to watch you fall. Go win something before you come on here talking a bunch of trash. You are a mediocre SEC program on a good three year run.
By Wreckmaniac
August 26, 2008 10:05 PM | Link to this
GEOSCI: What are you? A rockcollector ? Tech fans certainly have no more inflated sense of their teams ability than UGA fans do. Most of us are expecting a losing season and are ready for it while anything less than nat champ will be a bad year for UGA which is nothing new as they haven’t lived up to expectations since Richt arrived. Tech won’t beat UGA this year or next year but if they don’t beat them soon we will find another coach. Its just that simple. Beat UGA or be gone.
By Maddog
August 26, 2008 10:07 PM | Link to this
the truth, you’re right. We are 7-6 during the past 13 SEC games. We do, however, have a lot of momentum on our side. I mentioned momentum, and you seem to like win/loss records. Please tell me you haven’t forgotten we are 7-0 during the past GA-GA Tech series.
Go win something before you come on here talking a bunch of trash. You are a mediocre SEC program on a good three year run. And what is Tech? Not even a mediocre ACC team.
By The Vendor
August 26, 2008 10:08 PM | Link to this
Get your hot dogs right here!!!!! GIT season tickets thrown in for “flavor”.
By The Guru
August 26, 2008 10:10 PM | Link to this
Yeah, this offense is so great, look how many teams, including the pros, are running it!!!! High schools, yes.
By The Historian
August 26, 2008 10:15 PM | Link to this
What do Bill Currie, Pepper Rodgers, Bill Lewis, George O’Liar, Art Garfunkle, Chandler Gailey, Bobby Ross, Paul Johnson, and 3-4 other old guys have in common? They were all saviors at GIT!!!
By Historian II
August 26, 2008 10:19 PM | Link to this
“GIT is going to better than some think!” AJC circa 1968, 1973, 1979, 1984, 1992, 1999, 2004, 2008, and every year in between!
By Bill
August 26, 2008 10:23 PM | Link to this
Tech is going to kick some a* this year. Watch out University of Dumbass!
By Phil
August 26, 2008 10:27 PM | Link to this
The squareheads that UGA produces year after year are the problem, not the solution. Imagine how much better GA would be without UGA moron gradumates.
By bill
August 26, 2008 10:36 PM | Link to this
so by some of you GA fans logic, you should be playing Glynn Academy, since they are as old as school as UGA.
By Brantley
August 26, 2008 10:39 PM | Link to this
Just remember what happens when you atlanta morans come to REAL Georgia. Our Jails will pound your gay asses like you like it. Atlanta Sucks. It don’t be Georgia, f*.
By k**
August 26, 2008 10:42 PM | Link to this
Guess what happens when idiots from Atlanta and Athens come to GEORGIA? they don’t return. Death to Atlanta and Athens.
By Gaybo Shaw
August 26, 2008 10:55 PM | Link to this
I knew what I was doing when I chose the bees over scholarship offers from Wofford and Furman. There is a distinct lack of young male asians at those schools. Not so much a problem at tech! Bonzaiiii!!!!!!
By m
August 26, 2008 11:25 PM | Link to this
Matt, let me put it a little more succinctly. Tech will be different because the worst coach in the history of the NCAA is gone. And so is his cancerous attitude. Thank God and Greyhound that Gailey is gone forever. Hallllleeeeedamlooooyah!!!!
By gt45
August 27, 2008 8:35 AM | Link to this
Scphincter sniffers, I can tell it’s opening week, because of all the attention ya’ll are giving us. Mark my words, when ya’ll play us this year, it is going to be a back yard spanking worse than at Michael Vicks house! Your guys will have nothing to play for, because by then, you will be out of the NC hunt, and you’ll be calling Dr Phil for emotional advice. We’ll be rolling be then, and the CPJ Express will be at full steam. You guys will be calling for Mark Richt’s job, and staying on a winter time drunk! It’s going to happen, as sure as day follows night!!
By GT fan
August 27, 2008 8:52 AM | Link to this
You know, I use to like uga for most of the year, besides when they played GT (obviously). But these blogs make me hate both uga and GT fans (most of you atleast). Just a bunch of garbage on here. Yes, SEC football>ACC. uga football is currently better than gt football. gt academics > uga. gt athletes just as dumb as uga athletes. Everyone knows this, so stop arguing these stupid points.
So many of you are pitiful. You embarass your school and yourself
By Wreckmaniac
August 27, 2008 9:17 AM | Link to this
I have always tried to stay above the fray of which school is better academically but just recently I discovered that the Atlanta water shortage is largely due to gross miscalculation of the state line bordering Tennessee and Georgia. The record states that a UGA mathematician inaccurately (not once but twice) determined that this border was 1 mile south of where it actually is thereby leaving out the Tennessee river.
Never fear, this authority is now in the hands of a dept at Tech which will have to apply real engineering to solve the water delimma.
By Confucius
August 27, 2008 9:27 AM | Link to this
Confucius say delusional nerds funny. They think triple option will work at high level college football!! Too much funny! Confucius laughing so hard he sh!t himself.
By fischer
August 27, 2008 9:32 AM | Link to this
Wreckmaniac - yep, that proves tech’s superiority all right. And it wasn’t “a uga mathematician” it was the entire state corps of engineers, of which the majority matriculated at that dump of a trade school in the atlanta ghetto. Nice try, though. I’ve got a question, is there an argument you idiots can present that isn’t full of holes, lies, mistruths, and distorted statistics? No? Didn’t think so. Now, get back to your cubicles, I want those TPS reports pronto.
By SugarHillDawg
August 27, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this
Talk about bad timing, DragonCon is in town this weekend so you guys are gonna have a hard time getting your fans to come to the game. Maybe the ticket manager can offer them free admission if they wear there costumes to the game??!!
By PTC DAWG
August 27, 2008 10:18 AM | Link to this
So you GT folks are telling me that IF I look at the UGA blogs on the AJC, I will not see any GT fans posting about UGA?
I’ll believe it when I see it.
Fact is, we love to hate one another. Clean Old Fashioned Hate, and there’s nothing wrong with it.
Best of luck with your option this year.
By Gridlocked
August 27, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this
Spot on fischer! Those Tech engineers have done one hell of a job over at DOT too and Atlanta traffic is their masterpiece. Not to mention all those Astronauts coming home with hotfeet because of those defective Tech designed and engineered tiles that keep falling off the Space Shuttle.
By Barry Switzer
August 27, 2008 10:35 AM | Link to this
I ran the option at Oklahoma with success. Then the overall team speed at Miami rendered it impotent. Then I went to the NFL. Guess what? I didn’t run my precious triple option. Know why? IT DOESN’T WORK AGAINST TEAMS WITH SUPERIOR TEAM SPEED!
By fischer
August 27, 2008 10:38 AM | Link to this
Georgia Tech = the laughing stock of real engineering schools.
(what is the over/under on how many nerds respond with “Georgia = the laughing stock of Georgia”? These silly nerds are all too predictable.)
By GT_THWG
August 27, 2008 10:51 AM | Link to this
Matt - Great piece. I appreciate your outstanding coverage of Tech. Maybe you could nudge other writers on the AJC to report as well as you do. I see at least 7 wins, probably 8…
By Mr. Patel
August 27, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this
Georgia Tech is good school. If not Georgia Tech where could my fellow Indian, Chinese, and Arab friends go to learn the trade. We need this skill to takeover the technology jobs that now belong to you stupid Americans who just waste your time at Georgia Tech. And some of us will go home and work for the al Queda Corporation.
By GT Fan
August 27, 2008 11:16 AM | Link to this
GT45 brings up the arbitrary “last 2 decades” as a comparison of Tech’s record saying that they are barely over 500 (GT is actually 0.573). I admit that UGA has had the stronger teams over the last 2 decades and it is obvious by their record against GT 15-5. However, it is a lot closer than bullpup fans may think when you take a look at other parameters.
Average record: GT 7-5, UGA 8-4 Bowl games: GT 13, UGA 16 Conf Champs: GT 2, UGA 2 National Champs: GT 1, UGA 0
By GT_THWG
August 27, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this
The previous 100 posts or so is why I try not to even look on these blogs…the idiots of the world reside on here…day after day, spewing their “ideas”. Grow up.
By Big A
August 27, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this
ACC whoo hoo!!! You mean the Asian Community Colleges!!!! As a DAWG fan I wish you luck, but come on. You guys are more satisfied if we lose than Tech wins. Go fugure? You guys don’t play anybody so you SHOULD get enough wins.
By George O'Liar
August 27, 2008 11:32 AM | Link to this
GT_THWG - I agree. You find the dumbest, most self-important, self-ingratiating posts from GT fans on these blogs. It’s what they’re taught while they’re at the trade school in the Atlanta ghetto. Unless of course you played for me. Then, obviously, you didn’t go to school. Just practice.
By gatech
August 27, 2008 11:35 AM | Link to this
HAHAHAHA….I just wanted to laugh in everyones face who argued with me about “lagging” ticket sales. They are now up 200 from last year. Yes, not the greatest, but they are still UP…..JUST LIKE I SAID. So here is a big f-you to everyone who said “sales lagging 176 is still sales lagging”, that being down 1% wouldn’t be made up in the last couple weeks, and that we would not end up selling the same amount (if not more) of tickets, even though the comparisons were made at 2 different points.
Who said that the difference would be made up by the end of the season??? Oh yeah, me! So up yours (you know who i am talking to)
By Sam
August 27, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this
Since 1964 you are 12-32 against UGA, GT Fan. There is not a damn thing arbitrary about that. In that same period UGA has what 9 conference titles. Tech what? 1 and the 1/2 NC. It’s not even in the same universe GT Fan. If you want to break it down to more recent history, since 2000 UGA is what? 71-19! 2 conference titles 2 BCS bowls. Tech…LMAO. Against UGA Tech is what? 0-7. Close GT Fan. Bowls? Yeah we know. Numbers. The Tech fan’s security blanket. Break it down to quality bowls and toilet bowls and again the difference is glaring. Your trying smoke and mirrors GT Fan. It’s not close. No matter how you try to spin it GT Fan. Nice try.
By fischer is a f@g
August 27, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this
Exactly how is Ga Tech the laughing stock of “real” engineering schools? One of the top 5 engineering schools, yeah, thats embarassing. And as far as football goes, we are certainly one of the few legitimate Tech programs with a competitive football program. The entire academic prowess of the state of GA resides at Tech. GA is #47 with SAT scores, and you know where the majority of those mental juggernauts go don’t you? Hint: UG_
By fischer
August 27, 2008 11:54 AM | Link to this
Rhodes Scholars tally from 2007:
UGA - 2 GT - 0
Yep, the “entire academic prowess of the state of Georgia resides at Tech” alright. Jeez. Just stop, you’re embarrassing yourself.
By Old GT Nut
August 27, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this
Big A:
You better fix your atttitude. Those “Asian” grads are gonna be YOUR BOSS. So, start mopping.
By Randolph
August 27, 2008 1:08 PM | Link to this
Up, there we go! The old “boss” comment from some techie who has probably never been anybody’s boss. No tech argument would be complete without that gem. Now wait for the (false) age-old “we have more national championships than you” classic.
By Mr Breeze
August 27, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this
The vast majority of these blogs, mostly UGA, are horrible and pathetic!! This is supposed to be about GT football.
And don’t you ever — EVER use the death of a young man to make a point in your pathetic comparisons of which school is “better than the other.” I knew him since he was a little boy, playing baseball in little league, high school and at GT. How low can you go to add that to your gross little rants. You are so pathetic — get off of this site and go back to your own. G-D!!!
By dawgy
August 27, 2008 1:58 PM | Link to this
Chill out Cool Breeze. That poster may have mentioned Hutts’s death, and he may be a dawg fan, but don’t delude yourself by thinking a heroin-related death would not be a talking point of “what is wrong at UGA” by a tech fan. Don’t even think that for one minute because it is the very picture of hypocrisy. Read these blogs. Tech revels in UGA’s misery, whether it be a loss or an arrest for MIP. Don’t kid yourself.
By Mr Breeze
August 27, 2008 5:05 PM | Link to this
Dawgy, point well taken. I agree that many of these GT posters have been just as tacky as the UGA ones. I just took it a little personal when he referenced someone who was practically a member of my “family”. I wish we would just talk about football….
By wreckmaniac
August 27, 2008 5:50 PM | Link to this
Rhodes Scholars ? Bill Clinton was a Rhodes Scholar so I’m glad I wasn’t one. If you want to run in that pack go ahead.
By fischer
August 27, 2008 6:23 PM | Link to this
wreckmaniac - (sigh) I’ll speak slow so you understand. The slow tech poster claimed that all academic achievement in Georgia was linked to the trade school. I pointed out that UGA has two students who received the highest scholastic honor one can receive. And tech did not have any students worthy of this honer. This is relating to academics, not moral turpitude. Are you too stupid to see the difference in the two? Probably. Idiot.
By fischer
August 27, 2008 6:23 PM | Link to this
wreckmaniac - (sigh) I’ll speak slow so you understand. The slow tech poster claimed that all academic achievement in Georgia was linked to the trade school. I pointed out that UGA has two students who received the highest scholastic honor one can receive. And tech did not have any students worthy of this honor. This is relating to academics, not moral turpitude. Are you too stupid to see the difference in the two? Probably. Idiot.
By whoa
August 27, 2008 6:50 PM | Link to this
Fischer-
You’re giving these young UGA grads false hope. When you graduate from UGA with a degree in “communications”, or “sociology”, or “sports studies”, or “leisure studies”, or “history”, or “food science” I don’t think it’s really going to matter that UGA has a couple of Rhodes Scholars.
By Randall
August 27, 2008 7:09 PM | Link to this
whoa - you’re absolutely right. There are lies, damn lies, and then statistics, right? Geez. Bottom line, if you lean on the name of the school on your degree, then you are obviously an incompetent putz. I know smart tech grads. I also know tech grads who are not nearly as smart as they think they are. I know smart UGA grads. I also know UGA grads who are not as smart as they think they are (namely, yours truly). It really doesn’t matter where you went to school, but more what you do when you get out.
By Ramble On
August 27, 2008 8:10 PM | Link to this
Oh God! How can we win and still pass Calculus?
By Dawg Fan
August 27, 2008 9:34 PM | Link to this
Has Ga. Tech lost their minds !!!!! A Thursday night game is ONLY good for TV exposure. I’m not sure that I read the “Fish Wrapper” correctly BUT that they are not on TV.. Not even Pay TV !! Guess that will help explain the low attendance which they will over estimate by 10,000 was ‘cause it was a weeknight game.
By Falcon610
August 27, 2008 9:36 PM | Link to this
Uga fans get a life. You all are the worst fan’s ever. Don’t worry though, you may beat us this year, but you won’t live up to the nationally praised hype. You never do. You won’t. Tech is rebuilding. Do you think we are too worried about beating you idiots anyways. How many of you talking about academic UGA superiority actually graduated from UGA? Probably only 1 or 2 of you.
The fact of the matter is, Tech accepts a lower amount of students than does UGA because we don’t accept the mediocre. You have to be extremely smart to get in and stay in at Tech. Another thing is that you cannot really compare academics at Tech and UGA for the simple fact that we are too different types of schools. Tech is mostly engineering and math, while UGA is liberal arts and medicine, also a little turf management and sports science and crap like that. You won’t find that at Tech. Tech grads make more money overall than do UGA grads, even GA STATE grads make more money than UGA grads. Try to de-bunk that, here i’ll give you UGA pups a link for help:
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/info-SalariesforCollegesbyType-sort.html
Try that out, don’t worry it’s a good source. It is the Wall Street Journal. Have fun, Dawgies defending that one.
Rhodes Scholars my arse. Let’s see if they they make the money Tech and GA STATE students do, but I doubt it! Idiots!!!!!!
By TechCrybaby
August 27, 2008 10:17 PM | Link to this
I’ve got to get a new name - my crying days are over. Georgia Tech will lose to VT, to Clemson, and to UGA (again!). All the others are in great danger. Their defenses will have their tongues hanging out, as Tech controls the ball (fumbling less than you think), and rules the field. Don’t mess with me. My predictions have always been correct, and they are right again.
By Heath
August 27, 2008 11:35 PM | Link to this
Falcon - here’s a thought. The next time you cite a “credible” source, make sure the link you display is still available. Moron. How would you like to compare your tax returns with all the doctors, lawyers, accountants, bankers, Governors etc. that have graduated from Georgia? You wouldn’t? Awww. But I’m sure your civil engineers salary would stack up? It wouldn’t? Get back to your cubicle. I want those TPS reports. And coffee. Chop chop.
By Old GT Nut
August 28, 2008 11:28 AM | Link to this
Some important factors about GT’s season CONTINUE to be overlooked.
Does any GT fan not believe GT will be SIGNIFICANTLY better than 2007 in EVERY SINGLE ASPECT??
One of THE MOST important considerations that has been TOTALLY overlooked is GT’s ACC-Coastal division schedule. Even if GT loses ALL other games, if GT takes care of business in ACC-Coastal play, GT will STILL go to the ACC title game. THAT’S A FACT!!
So, just consider GT’s Coastal schedule:
VT (Sept 13) Does anybody SERIOUSLY still believe VT will be like 2007 VT team? VT is gonna be just plain AWFUL in 2008. Watch for ECU to upset VT this Saturday. GT is gonna SHOCK everyone(but me) by easily beating VT on Sept 13th.
Duke(Oct 4) (Days since VT game: 20) Cutcliffe will make Duke better in 2008, but they won’t beat GT. Period.
UVA (Oct 25) (Days since Duke game: 20) UVA will be a mess in 2007. Very poor GT play in 2007, and GT still almost won in Charlottesville)
UNC (Nov 8) (Days since UVA game: 13) UNC will be better in 2008. GT played truly awful in 2007 including 4 fumbles, and STILL won the game. UNC wont beat GT in 2008.
Miami(Nov 20) Days since UNC game: 11) Again, very poor GT play in 2007, and GT still won)
So, notice there is a HUUUUUGE time gap between Sept 13th VT game, (forget Duke on Oct 4) and the UVA game on Oct 25th.
FOLKS, THAT’S 6 WEEKS from the VT game, and 8 weeks from GT’s first game tonight. GT HAS 2 FULL MONTHS OF PLAYING TIME BEFORE WE EVEN GET TO THE HEART OF THE COASTAL SCEHDULE !!!!! Are you NOW starting to get the picture????
I of course want GT to win’em all. But, if they don’t, just look at where the GT ACC-Coastal play leads. I’m telling you: GT is gonna play for the ACC Title, with the Gator Bowl a LOCK, and maybe even the Orange Bowl, if it all goes REALLY well.
Remember, a weaker GT team beat Clemson last year. Clemson has mostly same players back, except O-Line, and GT will be much much better this year. Are you beginning to see the possibilities??
By 1Jacket7
September 3, 2008 12:54 AM | Link to this
…I am simply excited about TECH and its Football season.
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