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The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
It’s late, and I’ve got to move fast …
Nothing hard to offer here on Ga. Tech. Been working double-time on other issues, like the pay-for-play story I wrote for Sunday’s paper.
Hard to have an opinion here. But I think college football and basketball (D-I level) generate so much money that somehow, some way, some of it needs to end up in the pockets of the players generating it. Not much, but some.
I don’t have a great model for how to split the cash, but how about making sure that if it ever gets to where players are paid beyond their scholarships making sure that ALL division I PROGRAMS get the same thing, and that they’re limited strictly in how they give out the dough.
If you start breaking it down to where big conferences and big-time programs have more money to spread among their players, it will only make the strong stronger. That would destroy parity, if such a thing exists (it probably doesn’t).
I’ll say this: if it was split evenly, I think that would be a much bigger factor in basketball. If North Carolina had no more to give than Kent State, it might actually level the playing field.
If there are a dozen one-and-done-caliber hoops players every year, and North Carolina has no more to often them than Wisconsin or UNLV or Davidson or whomever … perhaps some of those kids would say to themselves, “well there are already two studs heading for UNC to get big bucks,” so maybe I could go to Davidson, or wherever, to get my share of big money, too. There would, I think, be a point where the idea of going to UNC just to have a better than average chance at winning it all, would diminish in the face of the possibility of making bukoo more cash somewhere else, especially if you’re only going to play one year in college (dumb rule).
Bet you wouldn’t have four McDonalds All-Americas all going to the same place.
Just a thought.
Football, I don’t think the difference would be as great.
Changing subjects big-time … I know Brett Favre, sort of. Met him, or interviewed him, about half a dozen times. A couple times in one-on-one situations. All-American in every way, not pretentious in the least.
That said, he has not handled this in ideal fashion.
But he’s earned the right to change his mind. Period.
The Packers need to trade him, to whatever team offers the most. Period, again.
The Packers deserve something in return for their holding Favre’s rights. Why? Because they’ve already paid him tens of millions of dollars, and while they’re not doing anything wrong by standing by Aaron Rodgers as their starter in planning for the future, they also both owe — and are owed by — Favre.
They ponied up with that big contract over several years. And now, if Favre is to play again, they should be able to back up the truck and get their load of picks and/or cash.
You just can’t keep that guy out of the NFL if he wants to play. That’s not right.
Read something about Reggie Ball injuring a knee and going on injured reserve for the Lions. Don’t have much positive to say about Reggie. My only dealings with him were during his senior year, and he was a major pain in the rump.
And he was a double pain after the Georgia game with all the “Yo, dog,” garbage, and talking about how the Georgia game was no different than any other.
Please!
And by the way, Calvin Johnson will have a monster season.
Love it for Anthony Morrow.
I wrote something Friday about him signing with the Warriors. Dude shot lights out for the Heat and Warriors in their summer leagues. Unreal 3-point numbers.
Anthony is slow. He doesn’t jump well. He’s an average defender at best.
But he can shoot, and he really, really knows the game. Plus, he’s extremely willing to work hard at any and everything he thinks he has to work hard at.
I thought Hewitt was a little off when he told me once last year that Morrow had a chance to play at the next level (and he didn’t mean in Ukraine). I hope I’m wrong, and Paul is right… .
Now that Anthony’s contract with the team in Kiev is void, that’s not such a good thing for former teammate Ra’Sean Dickey, who signed with the same team (they have the same agent!?) Ra’Sean definitely would have benefited from having someone he knows well close by while working so far away.
Cross your fingers for Dickey.
Matt
Comments
By GT '92
July 28, 2008 1:18 AM | Link to this
I think you meant to say that Favre isn’t “pretentious”…you wrote “pretensive”. But I have to say that I’m totally sick of Favre and totally sick of athletes “retiring” and having the big press conference and then wanting a comeback. For most of them it’s the fact that their ego’s cant take being out of the spotlight. Look at Jordan…the biggest ego on the planet. Coming back to the Wizards was a joke and all for his ego.
As for Morrow, I hope he can make it. The NBA loves shooters and like you said, he is one for sure, but the NBA coaches just can’t play a guy who can’t D up. It’s just too much of a liability. So maybe he can make it as a role player who comes in and pulls the trigger.
And yeah, Calvin will have a HUGE season. The best WR ever and he’ll show it this year.
By Michael
July 28, 2008 7:23 AM | Link to this
So you wanna pay players?? Fact is, there ain’t enough money! There’s only a handful of D-1 programs that are “in the black”, and you expect all programs to do it?? All this will do is cause Athletic Assn’s to raise the price of season tickets more…
By Joey K.
July 28, 2008 7:53 AM | Link to this
I am really getting tired of the “Calvin Johnson is the greatest of all time” crap. He seems to be a very good person but his reputation seems to come from some so called recruiting analyst calling him the best high school receiver he had ever seen and predicting he would be the best ever in college and the pros and of course the sportscaster shills only ballyhooed things more and more simply because they were told how great Calvin was even though the on the field stats never bore out the hype. He was basically shut down by several different teams during his college career and his reputation only grew out of proportion when he had a good game against someone. Now I’m sure everyone will immediately trash my opinion and defend Calvin because of the QB skills of Reggie Ball but Calvin didn’t do much last year in the NFL and Ball wasn’t throwing to him there. I seriously doubt that Calvin really cares about my opinion or yours since he signed a contract that has him set for life. I wish him well and maybe he will have some monster year as a receiver but his reputation is much greater than the results he has put up.
By exNFLplayer
July 28, 2008 8:28 AM | Link to this
Go back and watch the film. Calvin Johnson made plays that even some of the acknowledged greats could not have made. CJ made catches on balls that were barely in his zip code. Had Calvin Johnson played on any team other than one handicapped by Reggie Ball he would not just have broken, but shattered recieving records. Even teams that played him well would have gotten torched had balls been thrown where he had any chance to make the catch. Imagine CJ catches passes thrown by Matt Leinhart, David Green, D.J. Shockley, Casey Clausen, Eric Ainge, anybody but Reggie Ball. Reference the monster game CJ had in the bowl game after RB was declared ineligible. Folks, Taylor Bennett was just throwing in Calvin’s direction and Calvin put on a monster performance. That was CJ making plays guys. Not Taylor Bennett.
By HomeDawg
July 28, 2008 8:52 AM | Link to this
“Pretensive”? Had to go look that one up, Matt. Of course, I didn’t find it. I’m sure that the blog will fix it to say “pretentious”, but you were caught. Still getting paid by the word, I see, but getting paid for some words that don’t exist.
By HomeDawg
July 28, 2008 8:55 AM | Link to this
Sorry, but I didn’t bother reading the previous blogs before my ‘pretensive’ response. Good catch, gt92.
By NYjacket
July 28, 2008 9:03 AM | Link to this
Paying players?
What do you call getting a college education without having to write checks to the school for room, board, fees, books, and tuition?
Most students have to borrow 10’s of thousands of dollars and work part time to attend college.
Many of our armed service members have placed their lives on the line in order to qualify for the GI bill.
Additionally, division I competition gives an 18 year old kid the opportunity to further develop skills that might be valuable to a pro team.
However, the truth of the matter is that most division I athletes will never make a living as a professional so they really should take advantage of the “free ride” they receive to prepare for the rest of their lives.
If the NCAA ever does authorize pay to athletes, I hope they set up a NCAA “Professional League” for just the schools opting to participate.
By Mike
July 28, 2008 9:34 AM | Link to this
Paying athletes in college will open us all up to the Laws of Unintended Consequences, big time. Major mistake. Major.
By CarolinaJacket
July 28, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this
Right on Mike. Big mistake, but I’m still not sure that a minor league feeder system for those who don’t want the education but want to prepare for a shot at the NFL might might not be the best way to go.
By Richard
July 28, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this
So let me get this straight. Georgia Tech for example costs $10,000 per semester (for an out of state student) and most students attend 5 years. Then there’s room/board, and books. By the time you’ve added all that up, you’re at $200,000 possibly more. In other words, $40,000 per year that the athletes don’t have to pay.
And you think we owe the athletes more? Seems to me that they’re getting the greatest deal on the planet as it is.
By Sharecropper
July 28, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this
One of the all-time great fictions is that paying athletes would level the playing field.As in the cheating would stop. Spend mere seconds digesting that and you’ll realize how foolish it sounds. The big guys will always get the big players, period.
By bob c
July 28, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this
D-1 football being in the red is creative accounting. It’s not just the tickets generating revenue. It’s TV rights, logo sales, and alumni contributions (which are largely due to football). Big college football programs are not far from small market professional revenue.
By astounded
July 28, 2008 10:51 AM | Link to this
Hey, Joey K…way to write a post and make a fool of yourself. If you can’t recognize the talent and ability of Calvin Johnson, you 1)don’t know squat about football, 2) never saw him play, or 3)are a doggie fan…in which case you can be forgiven for your ignorance.
By NewnanDawgCF
July 28, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this
Paying players would be a HUGE mistake. With all of the stories of players blowing it financially when they get to the pros, they don’t need to have that possibility thrown in while in college. They are given per diem money when away, etc. and they need at least that small exposure to budgeting.
Favre and the Packers organization are equally at fault in this situation.
Calvin Johnson - great guy, great player, and I wish him all the best. (This from a Dawg fan) Reggie Ball - loser in every sense of the word, not worth a mention.
I’m just hearing about a Tech skydiver that died because his chute malfunctioned. Aweful to hear about these things; we should all keep his family and friends in our prayers.
By Joey K.
July 28, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this
Well astounded, I saw most of Mr. Johnson’s games that were broadcast and except for two he was just another receiver. I especially remember the games against Georgia where he was totally shut down in all three. I’m not a Georgia fan, I went to school at UNCC and live here in Atlanta now. Calvin Johnson looks like a better than average receiver but Superman. You Tech fans seem to have bought into the media hype over a young man who was easy to build up because he seems to a good human being. Until Mr. Johnson has a break out year in the pros my assessment of him won’t change, he’s good but he ain’t that good.
By tech
July 28, 2008 11:25 AM | Link to this
I knew a lot of athletes when I was in school, and none of them ever mentioned being short of cash. They all leave college debt free with no student loans, they have meal plans that they don’t pay for, they get a ton of free clothes and free housing. The only thing they need money for is entertainment, but most of the players don’t have a lot of free time anyways.
By Steverino
July 28, 2008 11:52 AM | Link to this
Too bad Calvin didn’t have a decent QB and head coach during his time at Tech. Who knows…he could’ve been first team All American, perhaps won the Biletnikoff Award, or been a top NFL draft pick. Oh, when I think about what MIGHT have been!!
By charles
July 28, 2008 12:13 PM | Link to this
Calvin Johnson was never shut down. Reggie Ball was shut down. Calvin had pretty darn good numbers for Detroit last year considering he was 1) a rookie, 2) pretty seriously injured for most of the year (he says he can still feel the effects). Overrated? Please find me another 6ft5in receiver who runs 4.35 with a 47in vertical and weighs 240. On another note, I’m sure I’m not the only one but this ajc bs has got to stop. “Headlines” on the website: 1)Murton gets sent down to minors. 2)Chamblee RB picks Vandy over Tech. I’m all for supporting Murton, but who CARES? They are both negative towards tech and insignificant. I don’t give a crap about some Chamblee RB! Write more in depth stuff about how tech recruiting in BBall is doing great or insightful things about the football team instead of the generic story about how CPJ has to defend the triple o. Comon, I’m 19 and I can do better than this.
By Jeff
July 28, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this
Steverino-Calvin won the Biletnikoff his junior year.
By GotCurry
July 28, 2008 12:18 PM | Link to this
Hey Joey K., why don’t you look at some of the stats of those games when Calvin was “shut down”. How many times did Reggie throw to him? Look at all the other games. He rarely had many yards after the reception, because Reggie overthrew him and forced him to dive for the ball. I don’t care what school you went to, even UGA fans admit that Calvin is a great receiver.
By Steverino
July 28, 2008 12:30 PM | Link to this
Jeff…ssshhh…I know.
By T
July 28, 2008 12:36 PM | Link to this
There is already a “pay for play” league.. its called the NFL, among others. College football needs to get back to its roots, STUDENT and then athlete.
By gt45
July 28, 2008 12:51 PM | Link to this
Matt, I was reading some quotes from CPJ from last week, and he said DJ Donley hasn’t officially transfered, yet. Any insight, or just wishful thinking?
By Gordon
July 28, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this
I don’t think players should be paid, but I have a solution for the “one and done” problem. This could apply to both basketball and football.
Most kids leave school not because they can’t wait another year or two for the money, but because they can’t take the chance that they will never see the money. The way around this is to allow them to sign contracts with professional teams that have all the same type of things contracts have now in addition to one more thing: the effective date of the contract. That date could be one, two, or more years into the future. Of course, the player would have to expect to take a smaller amount for the delay (the risk the pro team is taking for injury or diminished market value), and would also take the risk that his value would be even higher after that amount of time, but it would eliminate the risk of never getting the money.
This would be a win-win for both sides. The players could have their college experience and get their degree, and the pro teams could make better free agent and other current player decisions because they would know who is coming further in advance.
There would need to be two absolutes: 1) the player could receive absolutely no compensation before the effective date of the contract, and 2) the pro team could not interfere in any way with how the college coach wanted to use the player (e.g. college coach wants to use someone as a power forward and the pro team plans to use him as a small forward).
Basically, you would be redefining what a professional athlete is. It would be someone paid to play a sport rather than someone who has signed a professional contract.
By Shivas
July 28, 2008 1:35 PM | Link to this
I guess you fell into the “I want to be liked by the bloggers,” mode by bashing Reggie Ball. He’s been gone over 1.5 years. How bout writing something like some information on our incoming freshmen, new coaching staff, our new offensive and defensive philosophies??? This line of thought reeks of insecurity and unprofessionalism. I wish the AJC could give us someone who was actually enthusiastic about GT. And pleas, can we lay-off all the personal articles concerning your family this year???
By Ramblin'Wreck
July 28, 2008 1:45 PM | Link to this
I totally disagree that players should be paid. Just tuition alone makes it worth it. I worked full-time through college (at Tech) and still had to take out student loans just to make ends meet. I’m starting out $35,000 in debt. School as a whole, easily cost me at least $200,000. They don’t need any kick backs. A free education, room and board, meal plans, etc are PLENTY.
By RamblinReck
July 28, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this
Way to get one more shot in on Reggie, Matt. He was by no means my favorite player, but he did his best, and more importantly, he doesn’t play for Tech anymore. Why take a cheap shot at a guy just because he got hurt and you’re upset he wasn’t a good interview?
As far as paying players goes, I think it would be a disaster. The NCAA needs to stand up for itself in institute a policy much like they have for baseball, where you can leave right away for the pros, or you have to stay in college for 2-3 years. Kids who don’t want to go to school can go make money, and the ones who are left can become real student athletes. Colleges should not be just a glorified farm system for the pros. We may be on that road now with that HS kid who is going to Europe. This plan isn’t economically friendly I suppose, so I won’t hold my breath.
By BravesFan79
July 28, 2008 2:50 PM | Link to this
From what Matt said Reggie Ball isnt just a bad interview…but a little punk.
Perhaps this means Dickey will come back to GT instead of signing in europe!
Cant wait for Hoops to start! Go GT!
By Rabun Dawg
July 28, 2008 3:54 PM | Link to this
T, you are right on with your post about paying the players.Also, to those that say Calvin Johnson was overrated,what a lame remark. The guy is not only a great athlete, but a fine individual as well!! It always seemed to me the reason he was shut down was due to the QB, not any fault of CJ. What could he have done if he would have had the benefit of a some of the QB’s that were previously mentioned. And, should we really care what Farve does? He did say he was hanging it up, did he not?
By TB
July 28, 2008 5:23 PM | Link to this
“bukoo?” “pretensive?”
This is all it takes to be a journalist these days? Whether you’re a homer or not, whether you’re insightful for not, proper spelling and good grammar should just happen. Else, you’re in the wrong profession. Pitiful.
Makes one wonder if said journalist even knows the words he was attempting to use.
By Techster
July 28, 2008 5:46 PM | Link to this
Reggie Ball has always been a little punk. I remember when Odell Thurman got in his head in ‘03 and Ball got benched after pushing some UGA staffer.
Georgia fans were upset when he left, didn’t they chant his name in ‘06 at Sanford? Damn, I wonder how that felt?
Now that CCG is gone I bet they might start to worry. Tech has lost two of its clowns.
By AlabamaRamblinwreck
July 28, 2008 9:01 PM | Link to this
Reggie Ball embarrassed me as an alumni and obviously acted very immaturely during games. I don’t understand why Chan continued to put up with his actions, but I will never understand how Chan’s decision-making process worked.
Calvin will be a huge success IF the NFL team he plays for makes him an integral part of the offense. A wide receiver can get lost when he is only a bit part player.
I am ready for the season to start. Blogs like this one are very boring, and Matt looks like he decided that it was time to write something without any idea about what to write.
Go Jackets!!
By TheBlogger
July 28, 2008 9:56 PM | Link to this
Regarding paying players…
I would propose that players are paid, but only if they are not a student at the college. Make it like a “minor league” of sorts that is affiliated with the college. The NCAA could set a cap on a college’s player salarys kind of like the NBA - so it is fair to all. These players can leave the minor league whenever and quit or go “pro” or even become a student/player (see next paragraph). Let’s face it, many players really couldn’t care less about a college education, and this type of system would be perfect for them and not ruin the academics of the college.
If a coach wanted to spend 100% of the salary cap on one super player, then fine. If he wanted to spend 10% each for 10 players, then fine. But, these players are not students and get no other assistance from the college/coach/program. They can have other jobs if they want.
And, if a player did want to be a student but still play, then they would not be paid that salary but rather accept the current scholarship program. This would encourage coaches to find good players that are also good students that want a college education - so they won’t be included in the salary cap. Student/players (not just the minor league players) would have 4 full years of eligibility. This does not include any time if they were paid players in the “minor league.” And, small colleges that didn’t have the money could still field player/students with no pay at all.
Both types of players would be combined to form the “team for the school.”
It is a win/win for all. What does everyone else think?
By In The Ghetto
July 28, 2008 10:07 PM | Link to this
Nothing like Talkin’ and Taking Smack in the Ghetto
By SAR
July 28, 2008 11:44 PM | Link to this
LOL, “bukoo”?
AJC, pleae hire me at say…. 3/4 of whatever Winkeljohn’s salary is. I can spell “beaucoup”, and do whatever else it is that he does.
Good lord….
Damn, that’s funny… bukoo…..
By Mark
July 29, 2008 1:13 AM | Link to this
college marching band members get paid…..
marching band gets paid…..
one more time….marching bands get paid??
WHY?? do they practice more than the sports programs? do They make more money for the school?
I played a d-1 sport at a medium d-1 school—it’s hard to devote so much time to work and school—and still live.
By crowesbuzz
July 29, 2008 1:56 AM | Link to this
Mark -
At Tech, in marching band, we didn’t get paid. If we traveled, to say, FSU or somewhere, and stayed overnight, we did get a per diem for food, etc.
HOWEVER, in basketball pep band, we DID get some money at the end of the semester. I don’t remember how much, but I don’t think it was even enough to cover the cost of the class.
(this was 2000 - 2003 time frame)
But you do have something of a point, and I’ve thought of that pep band money before when this topic has come up in the past.
By addicted
July 29, 2008 6:23 AM | Link to this
Paying players for playing college football is a BAD idea. 1) Several programs would simply shut down, reducing the number of kids who get an education through this system, and wouldnt otherwise. 2) Only the really good guys would ever make it through. There would hardly be any diamonds in the rough as colleges wouldnt want to take any chances. 3) The athletes would pay even less attention to studies than they do now. Also, I bet you most of that money would go in buying new spinners than saving, based on the diet of fast food consumerism we are being brought up on
However, I do think student-athletes should see a share of the money when merchandise in their name is sold (If you sell a Calvin shirt, Calvin should see a dollar out of it) or when EA uses their name in NCAA 2025. Also, a large chunk of the profits colleges make out of sports should be used to support student-athletes who are injured (and so scholarships are taken away from them), and possibly used to support those who are down and out after college.
Great for AMo. Fantastic guy, who hopefully will do well as a role player for the team that picks him.
By panhandlebuzz
July 29, 2008 8:30 AM | Link to this
Most D-1 athletes in FB and BB don’t even have a comprehension of the value of their “free” ride scholarships. They don’t attend classes and after 4-5 years of athletic eligibility are no where near a college degree. It that the schools or their coaches fault?? No !! They have squandered a great opportunity. Sadly, many of them should not even be in school, they are not even remotely qualified. IF all the blue-chip athletes with questionable backgrounds were not recruited would this ruin college FB or BB, no it would still be entertaining and competitive; but would no longer be a farm system for NFL or NBA. And that’s a bad thing???
By whatareyoutalkingaboutjoeyk?
July 29, 2008 9:29 AM | Link to this
Calvin was never shut down by UGA. I don’t see how you can down play his performance in college. He was always double teamed, and still put up solid numbers in most games. The few times he wasn’t doubled teamed, he made the other team pay. Not to mention, most of the times that Tech was inside the 20 he caught a fade pass in the endzone even though everyone knew it was coming. Skill? I think so
By College Fan
July 29, 2008 11:50 AM | Link to this
Hey AlabamaRamblinwreck: if you actually did attend and graduate from Tech, then you are an ALUMNUS, not an ALUMNI.
ALUMNUS is singular, ALUMNI is plural.
By TechCrybaby
July 29, 2008 12:34 PM | Link to this
College Fan, thanks for correcting AlabamaRamblinWreck on the difference between ALUMNI and ALUMNUS. Now we even have ALUMNAE and ALUMNA at Tech! It’s so tough to remember it all. At UGA they don’t even try.
Y’all pay attention. ALL y’all.
By exNFLplayer
July 29, 2008 3:36 PM | Link to this
Sorry whatareyoutalkingaboutjoeyk. UGA’s secondary did an unbelievble job on CJ.
2004 5 receptions 44 yards 2005 2 receptions 19 yards 2006 2 receptions 13 yards
Totals: 9 receptions 76 career yards
By mjp
July 29, 2008 5:18 PM | Link to this
College players get paid, it is called a scholarship and it is worth tens of thousands of $$$$. If they want money instead, they can go play ball in Europe or somewhere else.
By Zeb
July 29, 2008 6:48 PM | Link to this
Hey Carolina, how ya doin man? I’ve got a question, and believe me, I’m not tryin to be a smart azz, I just want an opionated answer from you or some of your close tech buddies. This blog was from yesterday and only has about 50 posts. Chip put one up today and it’s almost got 200 on the GA site. I know us uneducated GA workers don’t sit at cubes all day, but why do you think the post difference is so different? I mean really, I’m just curious, and once again, not trying to be anything, just asking a question. We’ve talked before and you know I’m not an azzhole. Just lookin for your thoughts.
By Jimmy
July 29, 2008 8:50 PM | Link to this
Zebadiah,
Maybe its because Tech fans actually work(from their “cubes”) during the day, unlike your typical UGA fan who works third shift at the QickEMart???
By obviously
July 30, 2008 10:07 AM | Link to this
Zeb-
Breaking news: there are more UGA fans than GT fans. I know, it’s a shocker, especially with the UGA bandwagon at all time high. 200 posts vs 50 posts sounds about right to me, that’s 4-1. Anyways, not all Tech blog’s are this small, the blogs about Coach Johnson got over 200 posts easily before being taken down.
By GT
July 30, 2008 3:57 PM | Link to this
Zeb-
Thats a pretty good question. Maybe, just maybe, its because the blog with 200 posts you are talking about is full of 150 posts of idiot ugay fans and uf fans having a pi**ing contest. And about 10 of them from you, just hootin and hollerin with the other white trash morons about urban crier, teblow, 15/18, shoulder injuries, etc. etc.. The other blogs only have about 100 posts. The ugay blogs tend to rile everyone up, and are full of idiot posts with random pot shots at GT, Auburn, UF, etc (im not saying that the GT blog doesn’t have the same pot shot posts, just not as many). Plus, Gator Chomp gets in there and all you little mutts go crazy.
This particular blog doesn’t have many posts b/c there is not a ton to argue about. No one is going to come in here and argue strongly that NCAA athletes should be paid. Therefore, after it has been stated about 30 times, other people do not feel the need to express their similar opinions on that issue. As far as Brett Favre goes, who really cares on here? No one cares what Reggie is doing, the sooner we can forget and move on, the better. And everyone here loves Calvin, unless they are a stupid ugay fan. So there you go, I hope that clears it up for you. Oh yeah, and the number of intelligent posts on all of these blogs is about the same- 1 out of every 37.5