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DEL.ICIO.USPaul Johnson, Tech ramping it up
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Sorry I’ve been away so long. Combination of computer problems and a major health issue with a family member.
Onward as we move toward the start of practice next Wednesday (3 p.m.) …
This is not the first time you’ve read somewhere that Paul Johnson is confident, that he believes in what he does, right? Some call it swagger, some ego, some arrogance, some just plain confidence.
Whatever, I appreciate it — however you want to describe Johnson’s countenance — as long as it doesn’t come packaged with smug condescension like a coach I dealt with several years back, or turn to a defensive counter-attacking mode when tough times come ‘round. I haven’t seen a single sign of these petty approaches, although conditions for the latter haven’t arisen yet.
Some of Andrew Gardner’s comments at the ACC Football Kickoff made it more clear Johnson is abundantly comfortable in his own skin (even if he gets edgy once in a while when he’s barraged with questions about his offense).
“Really, I was probably surprised at his almost defiant confidence in his own system, just the level of, ‘I don’t give a [hoot] what people think about this, it’s going to work. If you don’t want to be here, get the [heck] out,’ ” Gardner said. “Really, that level of, ‘If you want to be here, I want you; if you don’t, get out.’ That level of just, ‘I’m confident in this, you all pull with me; if not, get out of here.’ “
It’s interesting, and perhaps not surprising, that on some occasions Johnson goes hard in defending his offensive system and pointing to its results over the years at Navy, Georgia Southern and even Hawaii, and in other instances he suggests that his offensive methods will not be the end-all determinant of Tech’s success or failure.
On those occasions, he says it gets back to players, and having good ones.
Examples of the latter:
“It’s not just the system. We’re not going to win just because of the system. If we can’t execute the system, we’re going to get our tails kicked.”
“I just think that system stuff is way overblown. It doesn’t have anything to do with it. If you’re a good player, you’re going to be a good player.”
Example of the former:
“It’s been pretty good for a lot of years. That’s why I kid of scoff or kind of laugh when people say, ‘We’ll see if this will work.’ It’s not like we’re doing something that’s never been done. We’ve been doing it for 20 years at three schools and it’s worked pretty good.”
It’s human nature when you get crushed by endless variations of the same question to more than cover your bases with your answers.
Moving on …
A writer yesterday asked Miami coach Randy Shannon about the unique challenge of facing Tech’s wishbone offense. That’s right, wishbone. Hey, Johnson ran the wishbone in his first coaching job, under his high school coach (Elmer Aldridge) in Newland, N.C., but he’s not running the ‘bone now.
Nonetheless, here’s what Shannon said:
“It’s hard because it’s the only time you’re going to see it. You’ve got to be sound. It’s an offense that can get you because you’re playing the run, and the play-action pass [comes]. It’s almost like a four-receiver set because of the double slots [A backs]. If you’re not careful, those slot guys can run up the field with nobody on them because of your reads.”
Hmm. Sounded an awful lot like something Gardner said the day before.
“[Defenses], if they’re expecting the [A] backs to block them that’s all the better because now they can release and go and now they’re out there open and nobody’s on them. If they go ahead and start stacking to stop the run immediately, even though the offense is so run-heavy because that’s what we want to do, it doesn’t mean you can’t step back and throw it.”
And on …
Gardner spoke Sunday about how he figures opponents will hate playing Tech because the Jackets are going to cut block.
Johnson had a chance to put soften that suggestion a little the next day, when the voice of the Yellow Jackets, Wes Durham, asked at a table full of media if that was a fair description.
Johnson didn’t shy away from the reality that the Jackets will occasionally block below the waist (which is legal near the line of scrimmage, when just one blocker is involved, and he’s blocking from in front of the defender and not the side or back), but he didn’t come off as stridently on the topic as Gardner, either. For more, see the on-line Q&A with the coach.
Finally, this doesn’t relate to Georgia Tech, and although it’s an item about Virginia Tech quarterback Sean Glennon, it’s really more about perspectives, and how they can change, about how clarity is achievable through hardship.
Glennon had started 16 games in a row for the Hokies before coach Frank Beamer took that job away for about a month last season only to have Glennon regain it when freshman Tyrrod Taylor was injured. The Hokies (who by the way really didn’t have spring practice last year if you remember because of the tragedy on campus) went on to win the ACC title, and Glennon was a huge reason why. Lord knows he sliced up Georgia Tech in Atlanta last Nov. 1 (wearing a Jackets jersey).
I asked if he benefitted from his time on the bench.
“It was terrible. It was a blow to my pride. I came back a better person and a better quarterback. I had a different attitude. I might have been taking the game of football for granted. I was putting a lot of pressure on myself. I wasn’t having much fun. When I went back in there, I was just going to fling the ball around and have fun and enjoy the game.
“I don’t want to say I was more risky, but I was making more dangerous throws. I was just going out there and playing. It was almost like I was back in my high school days. I was very confident, and enjoying it all, no pressure, no worries.”
Nothing like a little attitude adjustment.
This is one of the reasons why Beamer and Virginia Tech are successful. He’s less likely to play favorites or stand pat than to make decisions that he thinks are correct. Oh, and here’s another: he and his staff recruit so very wisely, as Shannon points out.
“They recruit the kind of players that are going to play in their defense. They don’t go out and recruit the players who everybody says are No. 1. That’s what we’re doing at Miami,” Shannon said.
“We’re going out and getting guys who fit what we’re doing. It may be the No. 1 guy in Miami or Fort Lauderdale, but if he doesn’t fit what we’re doing, we’re not going to recruit him. It may look bad, but you got to recruit for what you’re trying to get done. Coach Beamer and them do a great job of that.”
A lot of coaches say they recruit for fit. Some really do. Johnson was asked if there any players who do not fit what Tech will do.
“Other than maybe a quarterback, if you have a 6-6 or 6-7 dropback quarterback who can’t move, OK, he doesn’t fit into the system,” he said.
It will be very rare in my opinion that you’ll see offensive lineman over 295 playing for Johnson, but when asked if he would rule out recruiting the 6-6, 320-pound roadgraders, he said, “if they’re good players, we’ll recruit them.”
We’re fixing to start finding out more about coach Paul Johnson real quick.
Matt
Comments
By Tech75
July 22, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this
I think PJ’s correct. If you’ve got a good system, then good players will be able to execute it.
I also applaud the (hinted) move toward under 300 lb. linemen on offense. A lot of these kids are carrying 50 or more extra pounds just to get up to 320 or so, and it just destroys their knees, and slows them down. Admittedly the extra weight will help in certain situations (like drive blocking and pass protection), but when the task is to get out and block a linebacker, I think the weight is a detriment.
For years, Tennessee had one of the best lines in college ball; they were agile, and they were strong and fast. They could get into gaps and use leverage; so smaller linemen can work, in the right system, where speed and technique are critical.
Perhaps they’ll be less injured as well.
I’m really looking forward to this. I think it’s going to be as much fun (or more!) as Pepper’s wishbone, when we were getting huge chunks of rushing yardage and controlling the ball, with the occasional 15-20 yard pass-YAC thrown in.
By Jon
July 22, 2008 11:59 AM | Link to this
Nothing about the defense? I know we all want to talk about the offense because it’s new and different but let’s not forget about the strength of this year’s team. In order for this team to have any kind of success this fall, the D is going to have to stand tall and create turnovers. I, for one, am looking forward to that D-line getting after opposing team’s quarterbacks.
GO JACKETS!!!!
By Buzz Belle
July 22, 2008 12:00 PM | Link to this
I can’t wait to see this! Welcome Coach Johnson! You have brough excitement back to Tech. THWG and see you guys soon at the games!
By Ron
July 22, 2008 12:25 PM | Link to this
Matt, I’ve been an outspoken critic of yours in the past but I have to say that I have truly enjoyed your GT articles the past few days. Thank you and keep up the good work.
By Jim
July 22, 2008 12:27 PM | Link to this
I would suggest that coach Johnson do his talking on the field, not in the media. He might be writing checks his team can’t cash.
By Dude
July 22, 2008 12:38 PM | Link to this
Thanks for the update.
By The Wreck
July 22, 2008 12:40 PM | Link to this
@Jim: It’s ACC Media Days. Johnson can’t just refuse to answer questions. I think he realizes better than anyone that the players have to put together 4 complete quarters to win.
By Spike
July 22, 2008 12:41 PM | Link to this
Matt.. ” We’re fixing to start finding out …” Fixing to start finding out? Nice.
By Kugel
July 22, 2008 12:58 PM | Link to this
Spike: If you don’t like good ‘ole country jargon, fine; but at least have the courtesy to hold your tongue. No need to jump on Matt for a little homespun humor.
As for me…. well, I’m fixing to go eat dinner (that would be the midday meal for us country folk). :o)
Go Jackets!! Sting ‘Em!!
By Jim
July 22, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this
No, but he can refuse to pontificate about how good his system is and laugh at those who doubt him. A simple “We’ll just have to see. We play some great teams and we’ll have a chance to prove ourselves” would suffice. It works for most coaches, many of whom are way more accomplished than Johnson. Its called humility. Humility goes a long way in the college football business for several reasons that I don’t have the time to go in to here. Suffice to say, with a fan base that is absolutely desperate for success Johnson will learn these lessons soon enough. He doesn’t sound very seasoned or wise talking like that. Just my opinion though.
By Spike
July 22, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this
Kugel.. His sense of humor is as bad as his grammer.
By Jim Mora
July 22, 2008 1:17 PM | Link to this
I love you too Matt!
By 89EAGLE
July 22, 2008 1:21 PM | Link to this
I would suggest that coach Johnson do his talking on the field, not in the media. He might be writing checks his team can’t cash. Jim PJ will be successful at Tech. If the kids do what he wants them to do they will have a chance to win . THe ACC teams better get ready to score alot of points if they want to win. It may not happen the first year, but he will out coach and beat alot of teams. He has done it everywhere he has been.
By gtfan55
July 22, 2008 1:42 PM | Link to this
I wish the season would hurry up and get here. By the way keep the info coming Matt I cant get enough.
By CarolinaJacket
July 22, 2008 2:05 PM | Link to this
Welcome back Matt. I don’t know how soon Johnson will have the team that he needs to win the ACC and most of the games, but I do know that when he was at Navy his teams had very few blue chippers (he was always among the weakest recruiting classes) because of the nature of the institution, yet he beat many teams who had superior athletes. That speaks pretty well for his system. Now I hope doesn’t take too long to get it fine tuned.
By GT Freak
July 22, 2008 2:25 PM | Link to this
grammAr Spike?
By RAMBLE ON!!!
July 22, 2008 2:48 PM | Link to this
Welcome back Matt!!!
I hope all is well with the family.
THWG!!!!!!!!!!
By reality check
July 22, 2008 2:57 PM | Link to this
It is amazing that a 295 pound lineman is considered “smaller”, but I guess these days it is.
It is more about the athlete than the size. Georgia’s offensive line has 3 starters under 290. In fact, last year they were under 280 according to Richt, and they did very well.
I have no doubt Johnson’s offense will be successful, although this year could be tough. Early in the year lack of familiarity with the offense is likely to be a challenge. The team is likely to become more proficient as the year wears on, but depth could emerge as a problem. And Tech fans are notoriously impatient. If there is not some early success support could wane.
In subsequent years I expect Tech’s offense will be successful
I do question whether Wommack’s defense will be as successful as Tenuta’s. He was an excellent defensive coordinator.
By ???
July 22, 2008 3:14 PM | Link to this
Isnt the cut blocking scheme using smaller linemen the same idea that the Falcons tried?…and failed with? Just a question….
By Matt Winkeljohn
July 22, 2008 3:21 PM | Link to this
Jim, I tried you at the e-mail address given with your post. Something fishy going on there.
So, it’s good to be loved. Thanks. How’s Patrick Kerney doing?
By spider
July 22, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this
JIM…PJ is very seasoned. I’ve followed his ascent since he was at Ga. Southern.
As a life long GT fan, I waited until THIS year to buy season tickets for the first time. It was because of Johnson and the option offense—-which is BY FAR the most entertaining style to watch—-West Coast, Spread etc…
He will be successful at Tech, and sooner rather than later.
By Chris
July 22, 2008 3:35 PM | Link to this
Matt, Is DJ Donley going to Purdue for sure? I just read a post on one of the recruiting web sites that said it’s not a done deal. The post indicated Coach Johnson revealing a possibility of his return. Hate to beat a dead horse but would love to have him back.
By meeksga
July 22, 2008 3:48 PM | Link to this
I can wait until PJ has a Tracy Ham and a Adrian Peterson type to run his system.
By Gollege Football Fan
July 22, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this
Paul Johnson scoffs at critics? The fans will be scoffing at Paul Johnson by the end of the year. That offense may work at the high school level or even for some Div 1AA schools, but Tech will be fortunate to win 2 games with it.
They will leave the ball on the ground constantly, the O line blocking will break down.
They will also accumulate penalties galore for blocking below the knees when they fial to execute those cut blocks correctly. And a triple option team rarely makes a first down when it is 1st or 2nd and 25 yards to go.
Hope too many Techies didn’t waste $150 for a ticket, because you will be leaving by the 3rd quarter.
By Skeptical
July 22, 2008 4:19 PM | Link to this
What happens to this offense when they’re down 14 in the 4th qtr and have to throw the ball? Can’t recall any option teams having much ability to come back late in a game.
By GotCurry
July 22, 2008 4:29 PM | Link to this
PJ has said many times that his team will pass the ball. Nesbitt is a capable passer, so I don’t think we should worry too much about the long yard situations. Taking care of the ball will be a problem. Look forward to a lot of fumbles in the early games. Whatever the outcome, I can’t wait. Go Jackets!
By spider
July 22, 2008 4:34 PM | Link to this
Well, I by passed the $150.00 tickets. Dudes!!! The forward pass is NOT disallowed in this offense!
If you will look at the not so recent past, NAVY IS a D-1 program—using D-II type athletes, but still a D-1 school kicking off on D-1 asses from time to time…Lets see how far NAVY regresses with PJ leaving…
You guys don’t know football, only what you’ve been SPOON FED…ie: “The option can’t win at this level” or “NFL caliber kids won’t come to play in that offense”…
Ever had to defend the option? PJ’s system will work at TECH. Give him a year or two and the leg humpers will be yelping.
By gt45
July 22, 2008 4:44 PM | Link to this
There will be growing pains, people, no doubt about that. But as the season goes on, confidence will build. And these aren’t Navy athletes, folks. These are some pretty good athletes with a lot of heart and drive, who are probalby already tired of being told they aren’t going to be very good this year. We can play the underdog card for awhile, but by the end of the season, teams will know they are going to have to come ready for battle! Go Jackets-and dogs, your day is coming…
By Bob Sacamano
July 22, 2008 4:57 PM | Link to this
Hey Matt, if you’re leery of dealing with yet another coach who may turn out to be a petulant idiot (though I don’t believe you’ll have this issue with Johnson), you know, there is a coach up here in Athens who can be quite a confident fella without resorting to being smug or falling back on a big ego.
I know Chip likes him good enough, and with no one in Bulldog Nation mourning Strickland leaving us, there is a spot open if you want to cover real college football in Georgia.
We’d be happy to have you!
By lakebuzz
July 22, 2008 5:22 PM | Link to this
While recruiting rankings don’t mean everything, they CAN give an indication of the teams overall talent level. Navy’s recruiting ranking average from 2004 to 2008 - 109. As reference GT during same time frame - 37 (both teams transition coaching years counted) Coach Johnson’s first year class ironically - 37. This years class is on pace to exceed this as ‘star’ average is over three for all commits. If you average 07 and 08 - 26. The talent is getting better, and I am confident that overall coaching has as well!!! GT may struggle in a few games this year due to poor execution/fumbling and special teams (two new kickers) but look out in 2009!! I hope I am wrong about this year as the team seems focused to not let this year be a typical ‘transition’ year….
By surfrider
July 22, 2008 5:42 PM | Link to this
Pepper’s offense and defense had top flight talent but the problem back then was a lack of depth. That has been a problem up until Bobby Ross to some degree. Tech can now recruit enough for depth. The other problem back in Pepper’s Wishbone days was the lack of a good passing game other than some big time playmakers like Jimmy Robinson and Drew Hill who may both have been underutilized in their careers as receivers. The OL if memory was right was in the 250 to 280 lb. range. One lineman a phenom. was Kent Hill 6’6”, 260 or so and fast. The Rams drafted him in the 1st Round. Eddie Lee Ivery also went in 1st round to the Packers of that say year. What I like and hope about Johnson’s offense is it will combine the best of the Wishbone with a passing game of some sort. It hopefully will put pressure on the defense to cover 6 potential playmakers each play and the flexibility will be better. It also should help Tech recruit better overall. As now it opens up the number and types of players Tech can recruit. There are lots of Jimmy Robinson’s, Drew Hills, Brent Cunningham’s (rb in early 70’s), Jerry Mays, Jimmy Lincoln types that can fit into this offense. The key to me is whether it gets stuffed can we throw the ball well which then will open up the option.
By T
July 22, 2008 6:13 PM | Link to this
Matt… I hope all is well with your family.. I hope the health issues have passed or are under control.. thanks for a great article
By Tokyo Jacket
July 22, 2008 6:21 PM | Link to this
So for those who can’t recall option teams coming back in the 4th quarter, did you happen to watch a WVU vs GT bowl game? Hmm??? I’d say that counts.
Jim, we had the “aw shucks” type of coach for the past few years. Most would agree that didn’t work out too well for us. What would Steve Spurrier and his attitude have done with Calvin Johnson? I like his bravado because it translates to his players. We’re shifting from an attitude of “we can win if we do everything right” (Gailey) to “we’re going to win because we’ll do everything right” (CPJ). It’s a complete cultural transition that is the right attitude for college football. It’s the winner’s attitude, period.
Finally, yes, Tech will make some costly mistakes and fumbles in the first 4 games of the season while we get familiar with the offense. But, as BC and VT, how do you prepare for an offense and defense you’ve never seen before? You could look at old Navy tapes, but the scheme has been modified a little bit. The bottom line is that they’ll be shooting from the hip as well. The whole conference will have growing pains dealing with the new scheme. I think that makes it a wash except against FSU and VT. Their D’s are well coached and should make the right reads most of the time.
I can’t wait to start talking about real games!!! Go Tech!
By 31906Jacket
July 22, 2008 6:24 PM | Link to this
Re ????- You must be referring to the same cut blocking scheme that won the Denver Broncos 2 Super Bowls and let Terrell Davis rush for 2000 yards one year. Is that what you meant?
By Billy
July 22, 2008 7:16 PM | Link to this
I hate even reading most comments in the AJC…
I moved to TX in ‘03 and thought that the hatred here was bad. Reading the AJC makes me realize that there’s nothing polite about the “Old South” anymore…
That being said, as a Texas A&M season ticket holder, it is certainly possible to win with the option, especially if you have a decent defense. TAMU won plenty of games using the same offense the PJ will use, playing against superior competition than the Jackets will face. If the defense doesn’t let them get down 14 points, they’ll be fine.
As a GT alumni, though, I have to admit that I experienced the holiday season several times after last season when Franchione and Gailey were fired…
For all GT fans, people in the Big 12 made fun of the option at TAMU, too, until they lost. Paul Johnson will be a great coach. I don’t know how he’ll fare againt Richt (though a 1-11 season that includes a win against them would be nice), but he’ll definitely make waves in the ACC.
By Gumbo
July 22, 2008 8:12 PM | Link to this
Jim,
How could you be an “outspoken critic” of Winklejohn??
Have you seen the inane drivel that Wyche puts out on the Falcons blog.
GOOD GRIEF…..
Matt is the best blogger at (an admittedly weak) AJC.
By Hilarious
July 22, 2008 10:22 PM | Link to this
Wow. Alot of optimism about a guy that lost to DELAWARE last year. Please Techies tell me how big bad Delaware just had too many good athletes for your lord and savior Paul Johnson to compete. I need a good laugh.
Get a grip. You clowns are out to lunch.
By chris
July 22, 2008 11:19 PM | Link to this
My 11 against your 11, then your 11 against my 11. Put the HAT on, “TOE MEETS LEATHER”, and lets play some FOOTBALL. 8-29-66 my Birthday 8-28-08 Paul’s TECH BIRTHDAY.
By Zeb
July 22, 2008 11:24 PM | Link to this
31906 Jacket, I hope you’re right. As a Dawg fan first and Falcon second, I thought they were supposed to have the “best” offensive line coach in the league. He brought that cut block to the Birds, but either they just didn’t get it, or he wasn’t teaching. I don’t really like the cut block. It puts the offensive guy on the ground really quick, especially if he misses. The Bronco’s must’ve really mastered it, cause it didn’t work out too well for my Falconies. Personally, I’d rather see straight up smash mouth. Not a gimmick where you use smaller and ‘supposedly’ faster linemen. Give me a cornbread fed 330lb guy any day over a 290 guard. But…..that’s just me.
By theDude47
July 22, 2008 11:30 PM | Link to this
Hilarious, the reason that Navy lost to Delaware was not the offense’s fault. The defenses at Navy have been atrocious the past couple of years due to depth and size. This is the reason Navy lost most of their games the last couple of seasons. The defenses there could not stop anyone. That won’t be a problem here.
THWG!!!!
By GT610
July 22, 2008 11:34 PM | Link to this
Hilarious,
Everyone gets bit by the upset bug. Michigan and App. State last year, Nitny Lions beating WVU, South Carolina beating UGA at home, UT absolutely humbling UGA, Stanford beating USC, see where I am going with this…
It happens in college football. Look at how Navy compared to other class teams with an anv. 40 points per game. He had a WAY less talent pool at Navy than he does at GT. Have you seen Nesbit, if he can get control of fundamentals on ball control he will rip and tear D-lines apart. Not only that but he has a cannon.
You must be a UGA fan, Hilarious. You know what will be Hilarious? When UGA loses to LSU, UL, and UT this year and once again does not live up to their coveted hype. Richt admitted the other day that UGA could end up like FSU some time ago. They had the same hype as UGA is getting now and lost huge their first game.
At least Paul Johnson has a little confidence in his team…
By Zeb
July 23, 2008 12:02 AM | Link to this
GT610, while I know your ultimate hope is UGA absolutely falls on their face, I hope tech doesn’t. You see, that’s what seperates good fans in Georgia. While you don’t spit vitrole, you are subtle. Don’t put too much into Richt’s “coach speak”. He’s just trying to calm the “NC” fans down a bit.
And you’re actually saying Nesbitt is gonna “rip” D-lines apart? Are you freakin serious? You better hope most D-lines are gonna give his azzhole a rest while he’s on the ground…..and that’s the ACC. All kiddin aside, I actually hope you guys do well with a new offense. You may roll in your first year, or it could suck. You haven’t played a down yet……just like us. We’ll see. This time of the year is so volatile with us bloggers……the countdown to kickoff. Dam….can’t wait.
By BravesFan79
July 23, 2008 5:17 AM | Link to this
**Until theres a 8 team playoff system (6 league champs, 2 wildcards) the ACC has NO shot at a national title. Might as well be playing in the WAC Join people like me who are tired of seeing GOOD teams go to waste in meaningless bowl games!
Undefeated Auburn, Undefeated Boise State, GT with Joe Hamilton, UGA the year they had Greene and Pollard.
id say in a sport were you can go UNDEFEATED and still have NO shot at a title game…. the regular season is pretty meaningless…….not the “best regular season ever” as some of you delusional people feel.
Boycott every bowl game except the national title game! **
By HomeDawg
July 23, 2008 8:45 AM | Link to this
GT610: Pitt upset WVA last year, and the Dawgs don’t play a ‘UL’ this year. But don’t let facts get in your way. Keep spinning your version of the truth. I admit that Nesbitt was a very good high school QB.
By GT610
July 23, 2008 9:06 AM | Link to this
Zeb,
I don’t want UGA to do bad this year, that is certainly not what I meant. It may have come off like that, but its not entirely true. Those games against UL, UT, and LSU are just really easily losable games for UGA considering the proximity of those games. I would like for them to go the NC, I was just posing, for the other bad UGA fan, a situation in which is very likely to happen. That’s what he gets for coming to a Tech blog and spouting off.
Josh rushed for 338 yards last year with and avg. of 6.4 yards per carry. 6’1” and 214 lbs. This guy is not your average tall skinny pocket-QB, he is quick. I don’t usually buy into the whole rushing QB thing, but in this system it seems like a whole other dimension to this system. Trust me I have physically seen his ability in game, and in practice. He will be just fine. I do not see any D-line this year putting any QB on their “@**” this year at GT. His numbers aren’t bad and I see them only getting better, but if rushing yardage get much higher than a 6.4 it could mean trouble.
All predictions aside for now, we shall see the new system come game day. I could go on and on about ability all day, but in the end ability won’t matter until it is proven. Don’t get the impression that I want UGA to fail, I think it would be great for the State of Georgia to win a NC. Plus, I mean, Georgia Tech WAS the last team represent!!!!
By GT610
July 23, 2008 9:20 AM | Link to this
Excuse me, homedawg,
There is such things as typos. I meant UF. Next time I’ll be sure read over my comments. I think my facts were fairly accurate in that comment, typos yes, but mostly my facts were used in the right context. Umm, and that is the truth. It is not a spin. All of those games I mentioned are considered upsets in their respectful ways. It is also very, very likely that UGA will have trouble doing well on the road to Jacksonville, LSU, and Auburn. Not to mention they have to play those games including UT, in Athens, with no bye week.
I don’t want them fall on their faces as I said in my previous posts, but you have to admit that is a very tough schedule. The toughest schedule this year in my book. IF, they get through it with out 2 losses, my prediction is that they will lose to LSU and Florida (who will get their revenge from that stunt in the endzone last year, they will be ready which is why I don’t agree Richt should have done that. It give Florida a little extra edge to correct that cocky display of sportsmanship).
My prediction for Tech this year is at least 3rd in the ACC, I would like to believe that they will win, but it may take time to implement, but it WILL work!
By snellville jacket
July 23, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this
remember the “Bear” always had under sized linemen and they did fairly well.
Maybe they will not wear down as fast.
By exNFLplayer
July 23, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this
GT610, if UF doesn’t find a D, they will not beat UGA. In fact if their secondary is worse than last year it might get ugly for them. Sorry, but if you think UF will win a shootout with UGA think again. UGA’s D is too good. UF’s has the potential to be horrible. Check your history and you will see that trend throughout Meyer’s coaching career.
By jabster
July 23, 2008 10:32 AM | Link to this
I think Tech will be 2nd in the ACC-C. Duke is Duke, UVA is depleted—so is Miami (plus they will be out of the Orange Bowl). Carowhina? GMAFB. Better, yes. But not 2nd.
Methinks that’s the usual wishful thinking of the ACC homers, who are still hoping and praying for a UNC-over-NCSU Holly Farms/ Food Lion/ Lowe’s/ Pepsi/ Hardee’s corporate lovefest ACCCG in Charlotte.
By GT Jackets
July 23, 2008 10:34 AM | Link to this
I love coach Johnson’s attitude. This offense will be a success in the long run. However, all Jacket fans need to be patient until Johnson has the right players to fit his system. This will be a good year………Next year will be GREAT!
By PTC DAWG
July 23, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this
Late to the comments, for sure.
But I say GT will NOT win as many games the next 3 years as they have the last 3.
Gailey is just two years from playing for the ACC Title, Johnson won’t sniff it with this Mickey Mouse Option/Wishbone/Flex Bone offense in the next 3.
By m
July 23, 2008 11:04 AM | Link to this
The good news is that Tech now has a real college football coach. Not some NFL never-was who only came to Tech to make a big paycheck and DID NOT have a clue how to coach in college. Tech wasted 6 prime years on the worst coach in the history of the NCAA. THANK GOD AND GREYHOUND THAT HE IS GONE FOREVER!!!
By GT Jackets
July 23, 2008 11:13 AM | Link to this
PTC Dawg - In fairness, Gailey would not have won his traditional 7 games with this team. Last year he was loaded and did not meet expectations. We may take a small step back this year. But, 3 wins will only happen in your wildest dreams. Johnson is a GREAT coach. We will improve every game and will make life very tough on you guys by the end of the season. Be thankful you have a bye week before you play us.
Soon enough, you’ll see it first hand!
By GT Jackets
July 23, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this
By the way - GREAT blog Matt! Thank you!
By GT76
July 23, 2008 11:26 AM | Link to this
GT Jackets how do you come up with “loaded”. We had 15 guys playing on defense. QB play was horrible. And we had no depth at any position with maybe the exception of RB. What is “loaded” by your criteria?
By Donald
July 23, 2008 12:05 PM | Link to this
DESIRE!!DESIRE!!!PRIDE!!PRIDE!!ATTITUDE!!!ATTITUDE!! are the things that will make this Tech team be successful!!! Don’t worry about the offense—-it will work—especially if the aforementioned capitalized words are present!!!! Hard nosed football and a team attitude will win —-get off the ME!!ME!!ME!!ME!! GARFIELD OFFENSES!!! CONCENTRATE ON TEAM!!!TEAM!!!TEAM!!! many victories have and will occur because of those ingredients!!!!!
By Go Tech
July 23, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this
GT Jackets-
PTC DAWG didn’t say only 3 wins, he said we will not have as many wins in next 3 seasons as in last 3 (23 wins). I hate to believe this statement…but it could turn out true. I believe that CPJ will get GT heading in the right direction however (sooner rather than later), and that we can break through the mediocrity that defined Tech while Chan was around. Looking at the numbers, it is kinda tough that we fired him a year after a 9 win season. But when you continue to lose to UGA, play Reggie Ball no matter how he acts (and plays) and lose to Wake in the ACC championship, those 9 wins don’t hold up everything. I believe that with CPJ, we will see more desire and heart than our past teams. When we lose a game, I want to see our team clearly look unhappy about it, and wanting to improve. A lot of the time I felt that our guys were just ready to get the loss over with and get off the field under Chan, and I think that CPJ will have a great impact on attitude. It is going to be interesting to see how our offense works during our first 4 games. Hopefully we won’t need to show all our cards against Jacksonville State (GOD willing) and we can have some suprises for BC and VT. It is going to be hard for our opponents to adjust, and I think that if we can manage to get the turnovers under control (and if our defense plays well) then CPJ could start off with a 7 win season pretty easily. I know that 7 wins defined the Chan era, but atleast these 7 wins would be more fun to watch, and without Reggie Ball. And yes, calling Tech loaded last year is a bit of an overstatement… We were just happy to be rid of Reggie. So really we just unloaded a huge pile of crap for last year (and this year as well, meaning CG). Should be an interesting year to say the least. Go Jackets
By GT45
July 23, 2008 3:20 PM | Link to this
Like every life long Tech fan, this time of year I can’t help but get excited about the new season. I think, is this going to be the season? In the past couple of years, I couldn’t help but have a shade of doubt in the back of my mind, because of the CG factor, i.e. was it UVA last year or Maryland-I try to forget! I always new what would happen. Now, don’t get me wrong, I don’t have any NC expectations this year, but I can say without a shadow of doubt I am more excited about this year than the last two. Smash mouth football is back on The Flats, again, because nothing less will be tolerated!
By James
July 23, 2008 4:34 PM | Link to this
Jim- Need I remind you that Chan Gailey had a similar mantra of “play four quarters and see if it works?” To me, that represents an ideology of “the best man will win this game”. The ideology that Paul Johnson has is “Georgia Tech will win this game”. That’s the mantra we need.
By James
July 23, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this
Oh, and PTC Dawg, That “Mickey Mouse” triple option offense is what beat you in the Sugar Bowl a few years ago.
By GT Jackets
July 23, 2008 5:29 PM | Link to this
GT76 - I do think the stage was set to have a big year last year. We were coming off an ACC title game with very solid recievers, experienced offensive line and the leading rusher in the ACC from the year before. The only missing ingredient was at QB and after seeing Taylor B. in the bowl game I (for one) felt really good about our offense. Defense I though was very solid (turned out right on that count).
Last year should have been a GREAT year for us. It turned out to be very average. In my opinion that’s why we have a new coach. As I said earlier, once Johnson gets his system in place (I think by next season) we will be a very dangerous team.
Go Jackets!
By Tech Forever
July 23, 2008 10:14 PM | Link to this
Once again….an amazing collection of ignorant posts from both Tech and non-Tech fans alike.
If you don’t KNOW college football then don’t comment.
By Michael Cameron
July 23, 2008 10:32 PM | Link to this
The following comments were written by “???,” “Zeb,” and “31906Jacket,” respectively.
By ???
July 22, 2008 3:14 PM | Link to this
Isnt the cut blocking scheme using smaller linemen the same idea that the Falcons tried?…and failed with? Just a question….
By Zeb
July 22, 2008 11:24 PM | Link to this
31906 Jacket, I hope you’re right. As a Dawg fan first and Falcon second, I thought they were supposed to have the “best” offensive line coach in the league. He brought that cut block to the Birds, but either they just didn’t get it, or he wasn’t teaching…The Bronco’s must’ve really mastered it, cause it didn’t work out too well for my Falconies.
By 31906Jacket
July 22, 2008 6:24 PM | Link to this
Re ????- You must be referring to the same cut blocking scheme that won the Denver Broncos 2 Super Bowls and let Terrell Davis rush for 2000 yards one year. Is that what you meant?
To 31906Jacket: Yes, you’re right on the money with that rebuttal.
To ??? and Zeb: The Falcons did try — and succeeded with — the cut-blocking system. The Falcons and their cut blocks were wildly successful! I’m not trying to be unfriendly here, but you must not have been paying close attention or either you don’t accurately recall what transpired. The Falcons obviously did “get it,” Alex Gibbs certainly did teach it well, and it clearly worked out exceedingly well for your “Falconies.”
The 2004 Falcons, in Jim Mora’s first year, led the NFL in rushing and made it to the NFC Championship Game — one win away from the Super Bowl. I remember seeing Warrick Dunn ramble through holes created directly by the cut blocks, with fallen defenders scattered around, jumping back onto their feet just as Dunn or another runner bolted past their clutches.
The Falcons, over the next few seasons, still utilizing the cut-blocking technique, continued to lead the league in rushing. The primary rushing statistic is most yards gained on the ground. The Falcons were repeat NFL rushing champions during the cut-blocking regime! The running game, greatly because of cut-blocking (in addition to Michael Vick’s great athleticism, character issues notwithstanding) was a powerhouse. Rushing the football was the absolute least of the Falcons’ concerns.
Besides, as applied directly to Georgia Tech, it’s hard to reasonably argue with the results of this cut-blocking style. Navy, with Division II talent at best (the Midshipmen are tough men, but are future Naval Officers and students first, and football players further down the line), won four NCAA D-I rushing titles during Coach Johnson’s tenure at the Academy. Regardless of how unimposing you surmise Navy’s schedules were, the Navy players, with the exception of Army (same obvious recruiting restrictions), were out-sized, out-quicked, out-talented by virtually every opponent they faced.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piNsYnvSGMk
If Georgia Southern can cut-block it’s way to almost 300 yards rushing and a 4.7 per carry average in the above-referenced 2004 game against UGA’s stout defense, which was loaded with 4 and 5 star-recruits, don’t you think Tech, with BCS caliber athletes on its offense can, with time, learn to emulate or surpass that success?
I expect Tech, by or before 2010, to be ACC and NC contenders. I believe they’ll do much better in 2008 than the naysayers are predicting, and win seven or eight games or more.
By ShutUpMutt
July 23, 2008 11:25 PM | Link to this
Hilarious, GA lost to vandy and kentucky 2 years ago. Please shut the hell up.
By DawgBite
July 24, 2008 6:12 AM | Link to this
What BCS caliber players, Michael Cameron? So much hope riding on a system that beat 4 teams with a winning record in 8 years, with only one of those 4 having won more than 7 games. LMAO!! Tech will never be anything more than a footnote in Georgia football.
By Tech Loses Again
July 24, 2008 6:18 AM | Link to this
Michael Cameron! Idiot boy! Didn’t UGA win that 2004 game with Georgia Southern by 20 points? What was your point little girl?
By ShutUpMut
July 24, 2008 6:23 AM | Link to this
On second thought, we here at the trade school got blown out by Duke 41-10. Maybe I better STFU!
By Off topic
July 24, 2008 7:54 AM | Link to this
At what point does the AJC do something about the Falcons blog? I wrote to Julia Wallace a year ago about the infrequent updates. She said it would be discussed. There seemed to be an improvement. However, unlike EVERY OTHER BLOG on the ajc, commenting is open for a couple of hours and then closed. OR like the most recent one, it never opens at all. Pathetic. This has to be Wyche, right? When will someone at the AJC demand better performance from this guy? I would have posted this on the Falcons blog, but, of course I CAN’T.
By gtr45
July 24, 2008 9:02 AM | Link to this
If Tech football is so insignificant today, why the h—- are so many of you Tech bashers over here? You want this coach to fail so bad, you can’t stand it, but you know what is on the horizon! Nice comment 31096Jacket-
By Truth of the Matter
July 24, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this
gtr45 the sorriest non-supporting fans in college football are the reason Tech is failing. It won’t be PJ that fails. You have done that for him already. And if you thick skulled imbecillic fans don’t start going to the games and showing recruits that you are not losers yes PJ will not win. And it won’t be his fault. You whining, crying, little bitc#s need to back it up by buying those hotdogs and cokes and the tickets they give away with them. Until then you will remain a joke.
By The real truth
July 24, 2008 10:55 AM | Link to this
Truth of the Matter-
Wow, a uga fan talking about fair weather fan support. What a joke. The bandwagon mutts will all be gone about the time ugay hast lost 2 games by Oct. 11, and they are no longer in the NC picture. You cry babies will whine and whine about your tough schedule, and start talking up 2009. Always next year, and always excuses. Of course you can come in here and talk trash now, when Tech is rebuilding (and getting over CG), but truth be told, in the grand scheme of things, Tech is southern football much more than ugay is.
So go ahead, start talking about how stacked ugay will be in 2009, get in some practice with your excuses and whining about 2008 season, b/c the dogs will choke as sure as the sun will rise. Stupid mutts
With that said, Tech fans do need to increase their support, and I believe that CPJ is just the guy to help.
By DawgBite
July 24, 2008 1:26 PM | Link to this
When you losers are 1-3 going into the VT game we’ll see how devoted you wannabees at the trade school are won’t we The real truth?
By The real truth
July 24, 2008 1:51 PM | Link to this
DawgBite- You know what, it would be a complete miracle if we were 1-3 going into the VT game. Do you know why Einstein? Because we only have 2 games before VT!!! I know that it would have been tough for your ignorant, white trash brain to search diligently through the confangled interweb and find out what our schedule really is, but in all honesty, I wouldn’t expect much more from a dawg. Your post is laughable b/c of its ignorance. You immediately lose all credibility. Stop posting b/c you embarass yourself, and your white trash brethren.
As far as ugay having 2 losses by Oct 11, just wait for it. 1 from the usc chickens (spurrier owns ugay) and the other from either asu or bama. Start practicing those excuses, we are all looking forward to them.
By DawgBite
July 24, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this
So 1-1 The real truth. 1-2 after the VT game. And by the way you little puzzy. Nobody cares what your schedule is. It’s not worth looking for. You little yellow sissies aren’t even a blip on the college football radar screen. And that’s the real truth. Enjoy your 4-8 season . Now go put your boyfriends panties back over your head and do what little tech girls do best.
By The real truth
July 24, 2008 2:52 PM | Link to this
Aww, DawgBite. Did I offend you? Did you get mad b/c i called you out for spouting your ugay nonsense without even knowing what you were talking about? If I were you son, I would start looking things up before I just run my big mouth, b/c you end up sounding like the dumb piece of white trash that you are. If you don’t care what the GT schedule is, then why are you in the Tech blog? Just to spout nonsense I suppose. Now how about I go take your wife’s panties off, and give it to her good, b/c lord knows a pencil d*ck like you can’t please her.
Oh yeah, and you enjoy watching ugay choke. It is inevitable my friend.
UGAY in ‘09! Better start practicing that chant soon.
By The real truth
July 24, 2008 3:07 PM | Link to this
Just how dumb are you The real truth? How stupid do you have to be not to understand that nobody really does care enough about such a football non-factor as the trade school to care about your schedule. Shouldn’t little fairy boys like you be blogging on the Broke Back Mountain site anyway? And the reason I’m in the trade school blog is that it is just too much fun bit%h slapping little wannabees like you around verbally. I really look forward to seeing all you foaming at the mouth losers throwing those pizz yellow little dunce caps out the windows of your cars after the Dawgs hand you that 8th in a row. Enjoy your season of disappointment prissy little sissy.
By Charles
July 24, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this
By The real truth
July 24, 2008 2:52 PM UGAY in ‘09! Better start practicing that chant soon.
Do you realize how really stupid that makes you sound The real truth. You losers have been saying that for the last 38 years you imbecile. You are one of the doormats of the college football universe and always will be.
By Uncle Jed
July 24, 2008 3:20 PM | Link to this
Jethro quit callin yourself The real truth and concentrate on gettin out of the 3rd grade.
By George W.
July 24, 2008 3:24 PM | Link to this
We know what you’d do with that free hotdog don’t we The real truth? But isn’t it hard to walk with it stuck there Alice?
By Michael Cameron
July 24, 2008 3:42 PM | Link to this
To Dawgbite,
You ask “what BCS-caliber players?” Georgia Tech BCS-caliber player, that’s what. Tech is a BCS program, and, as a matter of fact, has 29 players currently in the NFL.
As far as Navy’s won/lost performance against opponents with less-than-stellar records, I’ve already refuted that weak point in the above post. However, I’ll repeat it for you. Any importance of Navy’s seemingly (at first glance) unimpressive schedule is negated by the level of talent, size, speed, and strength, etc., with which the Midshipmen are forced to play. Regardless of how un-strong Navy’s opposition was, all of those teams — according to many experts who make a living analyzing sports (media, ex-coaches, ex-players, etc.) had definitively better talent than Navy.
Also, that option-based system, which you so unwisely disrespect, rolled over most opposition at Navy and Ga Southern; if you do a little homework, become knowledgeable about what’s going on in football and stop to actually think about it, you’ll conclude that Navy’s defense was the direct cause of their losses — not the flexbone offense. You see, you can mask offensive talent deficiency with an option-based attack, or win championships with solid talent (Alabama, Texas, Oklahoma, Nebraska, et al — with the option-based Cornhuskers winning three N.C.s in the mid-to-late ’90s and most all of their option-based games into the 2000s). However, there’s not much you can do about being “out-talented” and “out-sized” on defense.
Again, Georgia Southern, as proven in the link I provided above, using I-AA players, amassed almost 300 yards against UGA in 2004. You will see, within two or three seasons, Tech doing much more damage. I believe you’re worried about that. If not, you should be.
Ask Jim Donnan whether he considers Tech only a “footnote” in UGA’s grand football plan. After losing three straight games to Tech (‘98, ‘99, ‘00), he was fired — despite a winning percentage of .678 and a record of 40-19. The quote I recall from coach Donnan was to the effect, “If you don’t think winning against Tech is important, try losing to them.”
By The real truth
July 24, 2008 3:55 PM | Link to this
Okay, Im getting lots of white trash responses here, so let me take them one at a time.
1st. To the guy using my name: I like the fact that you come over here to talk trash, b/c the majority of you just end up sounding like idiots. You are probably DawgBite, but decided to write under a different name b/c of the verbal beat down you just received. I enjoy seeing all of the white trash ugay fans, riding around in their 95 chevy trucks, screamin “go dawgs”…up until their first loss. Then they start to believe that their first loss was a good lesson in “humility”, and that they needed it b/c they were playing “cocky” or had “big heads”. Then comes your second loss (and presumably your chances at a NC). Thats when the fun really starts. Because then you methhead, white-trash, inbred morons have to go back to the reality of your $35,000 salary, and the realization that you are pitiful. You make excuses for the 2 losses (blame the players or the refs, but never the saintly CMR), and pretty soon you are talking about NEXT year, and how it will be the dawgs year.
Onward, to Charles- 38 years? Interesting number, considering our last NC was 1990 (18 years ago by my count, but Lord knows im not as smart as you white trash mutts). I know, I know, co-champions and what not, but that was the system then. Nothing I can do to change it, so I will just take the title. I would say that teams like Vandy are the doormats of College football (who beat ugay 2 years ago, and by all means should have won last year) but even then I don’t think that they are that low. Doormat teams are the teams that you pay to come in and get the crap beaten out of them at the beginning of the year. And Charles, you guys have been crying about “its our year” for the last 8 years, and have been without a NC for the last 28… I was just trying to help you figure out what your next chant will be, after ugay blows it in 08. Your excuses can include “ref botched a call” “Stafford’s shoulder was hurt” (steal that from UF) or “Knowshon’s legs were sore from that tough SEC schedule” or “anybody would have 2+ losses with our schedule, we should still be in the running for NC!”
And onward, Uncle Jed- I guess this was your attempt at humor. You dawgs sure are funny
Finally, George W.- Again, a very funny comment with no sustenance. I guess when you can’t think of any relative comments, you just hurl insults. Thats fine, im not above that. I will say that its hard for your wife to walk after I stick it in her rear. Im not into that, but she says that she gets so tired of only being able to stick things in your rear, and she is curious to see how it feels herself. So i just go ahead and stick things such as bottles, cans, and sometimes bats in her rear, b/c she wants to know what they felt like when she was sticking them up yours.
By Michael Cameron
July 24, 2008 3:58 PM | Link to this
To “Tech Loses Again,”
Read this slowly enough for your mind to absorb. You should stop and think before you post such things on a public forum. I realize you are a mighty keyboard warrior, but I will tell you calmly, but firmly, that your personal attack in the form of completely unwarranted childish comments questioning my manhood gives me reason to feel very angry.
While I do not like to have to be in these situations, preferring rather to just discuss and/or argue about sports, when you issue such hateful invectives I feel the need to take a stand — although one approach I could take is to simply consider the source. Note that, just because I posted a link showing a past team (2004 Georgia Southern) successfully using the upcoming 2008 Tech offense against UGA’s defense, I was not denigrating UGA’s fine football team, and therefore you have no cause to be personally disrespectful. Do you like to be spoken to that way, after you make an innocuous observation? Yeah, I though you didn’t.
I sense you are responding, to some extent, to an online altercation I had with another message board hoodlum a few weeks ago, since your terminology is highly similar. You might even be him/her.
Now, you anonymous pathetic Internet punk, let’s take a look at what you’ve said, with a truth-based inversion of your insults.
Unlike you, I am a man. Unlike you, I am not an idiot. Unlike you, I am not possessed of a mindset and behavior pattern reminiscent of a “little girl.”
For your information, I am well into my 50s, and I can say with confidence, based on the level of immaturity that you’ve displayed, that I have seen and experienced things that you could only dream about, and probably could not endure.
Should you wish to debate with me about football or any other matter, you repulsive b*******, I suggest you do so with better judgment, rather than behaving as a little bully boy (or girl) at recess.
Regarding your astute observation that UGA won over GSU by 20 points, why, yes, that is true, with the final score being 48-28. If you were less idiotic yourself, you likely would not have to ask for an explanation of my point. Nevertheless, since reading comprehension and simple analytical deduction are evidently not primary functions of your skill-set, I will attempt to edify you. As was the case with my parallel point above regarding Navy’s low-rated strength-of-schedule being offset by the apparent fact that Navy players, while tough and brave, are still overall less big, less fast, less strong and less athletic than almost all of their opponents, UGA – even though GSU was very good for a Div II team – had a palpably significant general talent advantage over the Eagles. Despite said talent advantage, GSU, in great part due to their triple option-based flexbone offense (or whatever semantic term anyone wishes to use) made a tight game of it until very late. I notice you did not mention that coach Richt, after GSU scored on an option run (give to the B-back up the gut) and pulled within 41-28 with three or four minutes to go, felt compelled to reinsert his first-string offense to score a predictable insurance TD against a gutsy but undersized and tired GSU defense. Your integrity – and I use the word loosely in your case – is lacking.
For grownup UGA alum/fans, I do not surmise that the above-rebutted buffoon is representative of most of your fandom. Every group has their slugs. Most of the UGA folks I’ve known through the years are good people. I hope UGA has the fine season they are predicted to have (minus the last regular-season game, of course).
Michael P. Cameron, Sandy Springs, Georgia, USA
By GaSouthern/GTfan
July 24, 2008 4:08 PM | Link to this
The flexbone will work at a BCS school and tech will win 8 or 9 games this year or more. CPJ will become one of the coaching greats at the flats. I hope he stays for 20 years and beats UGA puppies 19 times. If GSU had Jason Foster this year UGA would be in for along day. The only good dawg is dead dawg!
By exNFLplayer
July 24, 2008 4:52 PM | Link to this
Michael P. Cameron other than espousing your own greatness, just what point did you think you made? I think you left out the fact that UGA played every defender they dressed out.(51) That had more to do with that game than GSU’s offense. When you have an SEC game the next week against SC you don’t risk getting starters nicked and banged up. Go to the library and check out Football 101. You need it. Now Michael, do you want to debate football with me? You sound like you need to be taken down a notch or two. And while we’re at it maybe you also want to talk about things that YOU haven’t experienced nor could endure?
By Franklin Pierce
July 24, 2008 5:01 PM | Link to this
Little Mikey Cameron, you’re nothing more than a psuedo intellectual idiot. You used 1000 words to say not a damn thing of substance. You’re probably so impressed with your post that you’ll read it over and over. I’ll bet you talk just to hear the sound of your own voice too, don’t you bit%h?
By Truth Hurts
July 24, 2008 5:12 PM |