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DEL.ICIO.USPaul Johnson’s summer: setting a template
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Credibility King here …
Sat a spell this morning with Paul Johnson. Much of our discussion will run in a Q & A that should be online soon (longer version online than in tomorrow’s paper). More if it will be in a Sunday notebook.
Plenty of material about recruiting in-state that I think Tech fans will embrace.
The only player he could say who will be knocked out by injury this summer (and all season) was Tyler Evans. He suffered a shoulder/collarbone injury in the spring that has required surgery.
We talked some about walk-ons. He really wants to ramp up Tech’s walk-on program, and said walk-ons were very, very good to him at Georgia Southern.
That relates, somewhat, to the idea of redshirting. Ideally, he said, you’d get to where you could redshirt all freshmen, but then again you’re going to have some who are so talented that they have to play as true freshmen, in part because there’s a chance they’re only going to be on campus three years.
Adrian Peterson once redshirted, and Johnson said of the former GSU running back, “I guarantee you he was better as a fifth-year senior than he would have been as a freshman.”
Well, if you put it that way, I can hardly disagree.
This fall, though, not as much redshirting to happen as Johnson would one day like. Why? Simple. Numbers. He said Tech will play with 74 scholarships this fall, and 54 or 55 will be freshmen and sophomores. There’s simply a shortage of bodies in the upper classes because of attrition, injuries, transfers, [EDIT ADD HERE ON BEHALF OF QUAILDAWG], NCAA infractions, etc.
More to come on Sunday, including some detail on in-state recruiting strategies.
Matt
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By quaildawg
June 18, 2008 2:21 PM | Link to this
“74 scholarships this fall…because of attrition, injuries, trnasfers, etc.” AND NCAA RULES INFRACTION (See CHEATING) SANCTIONS!!!! Matt next time don’t dance around the “real” issue, even though I must admit I like dancing, especially in flip-flops.
By JacketFanPCB
June 18, 2008 2:24 PM | Link to this
Thank you Matt for sitting down with Coach Johnson. It should be interesting to see how the Jackets do this year with so much youth and a new system. I’m confident we’ll do fine. Coach Johnson is a winner!
Go Jackets!
By Matt Winkeljohn
June 18, 2008 2:31 PM | Link to this
Quaildawg,
Yeah, infractions, too. Good that you keep such close tabs on Tech.
You strike me as a closet fan, though of an odd sort.
I wonder: is the perverse satisfaction you get out of Tech issues as intense as that you get from anything else? Surely, the intensity is tough to match. Do you spend as much time delighting in positives as you do in others’ negatives?
Matt
By Genius Jacket
June 18, 2008 2:42 PM | Link to this
A serious question: Why is Tech on probation?
By Hey unqualified dog
June 18, 2008 2:44 PM | Link to this
Unqualified dog you would know about cheating(see Jim Harrick/Jan Kemp). Besides we are no longer under probation so all the normal rules apply. If you call call what Tech did cheating then you truly are an idiot.
By StingerSplash
June 18, 2008 3:14 PM | Link to this
The thought of quaildawg dancing at all, flip flops or sans flip flops, is enough to make me a Jacket fan. One thing though about getting walk ons at Tech vs. Georgia Southern. It’s a little easier to get those kids into GSU than into Tech. He’ll have some, but not to the prevalence he had at Southern. He also may not need them as much in the future, with (hopefully) 85 full scholarships to go around soon as opposed to 63 (at the max) for Georgia Southern. But PJ and GSU have had huge success with walk ons. More than half of their all-Americans, and there have been a bunch, have been walk-ons.
By steponmarbury
June 18, 2008 3:14 PM | Link to this
Me like ice cream.
By shanegt21
June 18, 2008 3:58 PM | Link to this
quaildawg??? I’ll give the puppies in Athens some props for their success but when the success leaves so will the vast majority of fence riding…fair weather…and fans who have never attended UGA(or probaly any school past 9th grade) as they will put their hats with the G on the front back in the closet and pull for another frontrunner.
By Sports Fan
June 18, 2008 4:30 PM | Link to this
Wow, if Carter Strickland had stepped up for UGA the way Matt stepped up for Tech then Carter might still be employed by UGA.
Anyway Matt, it was journalistically irresponsible to omit the sanctions Tech suffered due to playing 11 academically ineligible players for 7 years.
You should have done a better job and not jumped on the poster for calling you out on your intentional ommission.
By Sports Fan
June 18, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this
Sorry for the error. Carter was employed by the AJC, not UGA. UGA would have never had that “person” on it’s payroll.
By HomeDawg
June 18, 2008 5:18 PM | Link to this
To shanegt21: Why does it matter if a person attended a particular school or not with respect to being a fan? I’m pretty sure the current (and many past) jacket marketing efforts are not expecting to lure only trade school alums. And what about your alums/fans who had tickets and gave them up over the perceived shortcomings of Gailey and the rise in prices of such jacket-declared inferior product? Pretty fair-weathered, I’d say. Be careful how you treat those who want to pull for your team - even if they’re not alums. You may never fill the stadium, hot dogs and Cokes notwithstanding.
By quaildawg
June 18, 2008 5:20 PM | Link to this
Matt, I would think that you would be pleased that I review all facets of sports within this geographic area. All I am expecting out of a good reporter are the facts. Nothing more and nothing less. Not so much the negativity it is the Truth. Same situation with UGA Basketball. I would expect Chip to give me the plain truth regarding what has taken place with UGA athletics. I’m not into side stepping issues to save face with whomever I am dealing with. I don’t know Paul Johnson but he appears to be the kind of man who would have respect for someone who calls a spade a spade and asks straightforward questions.
By quaildawg
June 18, 2008 5:25 PM | Link to this
BTW- Whoever added the Flipflop line to my comment(possibly Matt as I seemed to have gotten under his skin) The only flipflopper(s) I recall are Bobby Cremins, Glenn Mason and that duffus at Michigan.
By Matt Winkeljohn
June 18, 2008 5:31 PM | Link to this
Quaildawg,
You’re wasting your time. I have no reason to sidestep that or any other issue.
This is what it is. From time to time, some Georgia fans suggest I’m a Tech homer, and some Tech fans suggest I’m a Tech hater. Part of the deal.
Journalistically irresponsible. Please! This is a blog, not a news story, not even a feature story. Stream of consciousness. No more, no less.
Matt
By quaildawg
June 18, 2008 5:36 PM | Link to this
Nice jab on the edit Matt. I make a fair statement and request and I get an immature retort. I would have expected more from someone who represents the AJC. I’m sure your superiors are proud of your thin skinned backhanded jab at my nickname. You really put me in my place and should rightfully feel proud of yourself. PS Call you mom as I’m sure she would be proud of her baby boy, too.
By quaildawg
June 18, 2008 5:43 PM | Link to this
Matt, Tired of the peeing battle but I don’t think I said anything about “Journalistically irresponsible” as for the “stream of consciousness” altering someones blog to save face is a pretty low jab.
By Paddy
June 18, 2008 5:52 PM | Link to this
Matt, nice job getting things started. One more reply to quaildawg and all civility may go right out the window. Some folks just have thin skin and have never been in a lockeroom. Keep it going, should be a fun year.
By Dan Tucker
June 18, 2008 6:09 PM | Link to this
Will all UGA posters please sit back on your lawnmower and finish mowing my lawn?!?!?!?!?! I pay you to mow, not talk.
By Dan Tucker
June 18, 2008 6:10 PM | Link to this
Will all UGA posters please sit back on your lawnmower and finish mowing my lawn?!?!?!?!?! I pay you to mow, not talk.
By TDone
June 18, 2008 6:30 PM | Link to this
What got Tech into trouble pales in comparison to the shenanigans at FC Athens in both football and basketball.
There is no quality in what Quantitymutt writes. He just has time to do so.
Get a life, Home Skillet!!!
By Sting'em!
June 18, 2008 6:48 PM | Link to this
Quaildawg, Matt,
Why don’t you just get a room, the sexual tension between the two of you is just killing the rest of us!
By quaildawg
June 18, 2008 7:38 PM | Link to this
Oh Jacket fans, Hallowed be thy name. Forgive me my trespasses and point out any UNTRUTH I have spoken in my first post. For the ignorant and blind (like TDone) I mentioned, and do not make any excuses for, an example of UGA’s misdeeeds and what the program reaped (still digging out of the basketball fiasco) But then again what should I expect but views and opinions from those that wear Gold tinted glasses. Keep your heads buried in the sand about the numbers due to what I first posted. No program is immune to a drop off when numbers are reduced from the 85. Title IX has caused more angst among college FB Coaches than any other issue. With transfers, academic casulties, loss of interest (as Matt mentioned) and then throw on the NCAA’s handcuffs and your asking for some lean times. Personally I think Gailey did a pretty darn good job given the hand he was dealt by some idiots within the GT Athletics office. Doesn’t mean I like or pull for Tech (I am a Dawg fan after all) but facts are facts. Talk of thin skinned Paddy (or should I say Knute Rockne since you have such great knowledge of lockerooms) be careful before thy casteth thy stone
By CRB
June 18, 2008 9:01 PM | Link to this
UGA fans are uniquely qualified to explain “infractions”, “sanctions”, and “probation”…they’ve got alot more experience in those areas than we GT folks do…
By GT GRAD
June 18, 2008 10:08 PM | Link to this
For the record……the 11 and 7 comment posted by “Sports Fan” is incorrect and very misleading.
Incompetent academic advisors at GT made honest mistakes during the transition between the Quarter system and the Semester system. GT coaches were completely unaware and very dissapointed when the were informed of the problem. The GT coaches and atheletic department heads determined they had a problem, self reported to the NCAA and even developed thier own penalties.
Things have been handled somewhat differently at most of the other schools which have been punished/sanctioned by the NCAA.
I am fairly sure this is the first and only time GT has ever been sanctioned or even investigated by the NCAA……..AND GT self reported the problem!!
By Michael Cameron
June 18, 2008 10:56 PM | Link to this
The 11 ineligible football players were inadvertently allowed to participate, according to Tech officials, including then A.D. Dave Braine. From Sports Illustrated, November 17, 2005: “We are disappointed by the ruling of the NCAA Committee on Infractions,” said Georgia Tech athletic director Dave Braine. “Yes, mistakes were made, but they were inadvertent and confined to a small number of cases when you consider that we reviewed more than 800 transcripts.” If involuntary gaffes were made by academic counselors and/or staff in the registrar’s office then “cheating” did not occur. Rather, errors in judgment occurred. There is a profound difference between deliberate violations of rules as opposed to unintentional noncompliance. Also, please note that this was the first time — ever — that Tech has been placed on probation. That’s not too shabby for a program that goes back to the late 1800s.
By Wreck'EmTech
June 18, 2008 11:40 PM | Link to this
Fair point, Cameron, but it’s still probation. I love Tech, but in true Tech fashion I’d rather not explain it away…looks too much like excuses. Results speak for themselves, and the only important thing is that people will watch and see that it’s a one time thing and won’t happen again.
By son_sir
June 19, 2008 2:29 AM | Link to this
So true GT grad. Tech self reported an honest mistake. No comparison to grade fixing, which Jan Kemp was encouraged, then threatened, to “brush under the rug”. And there isn’t enough time to get into the Harrick Fiasco in Athens. Dawgs, you can get the he11 out of here with that hypocritical crap…
By m
June 19, 2008 8:08 AM | Link to this
Fortunately, playing with 74 scholarship players is offset by the outstanding fact that the worst coach in the history of the NCAA, Chan Gailey, is gone FOREVER. Hallleeeedamlooyah. Thank God and Greyhound he is gone. The Gailey ERROR is over. Let the Johnson ERA begin.
By HomeDawg
June 19, 2008 8:18 AM | Link to this
Gosh, m, we had forgotten your message. Thanks for reminding us all, but the Fans of Chan will forever disagree with you.
By Call It What You Will
June 19, 2008 8:43 AM | Link to this
Claa it inadvertent uninformed mistakes, clerical errors, the hand of fate, or poor calculus skills, the Nerd Herd was caught cheating for years and years. The NCAA caught you breaking the rules and you were punished. Don’t give me any of the holier than thou crap from a school that has no punishment for drug use other than a counseling session and an admonission to “don’t do that again, it’s not nice.” Other schools such as UGA, Auburn, Bama, and even Tennessee have automatic game suspensions and in house punishments but the Trade school has counseling and maybe a tea and crumpets session. I don’t remember the last time that UGA or Auburn had a drug dealer arrest but I remember more than one at Tech. Maybe the attitude on North Avenue is “all they are going to do is talk to me and tell me to straighten up or I might be subject to some kind of punishment. I might as well pick up some extra cash dealing to the dopers. After all I’m really smart and academically superior and those silly rules and laws only apply to the dummies who choose to go to inferior schools.” Your academic superiority veneer is wearing thin, or possiby you all will say that the Stanford baseball players are all majoring in pre-school marbles. Schools like Stanford, Vandy, Rice, and Duke read the eligibility rules and understood them and weren’t punished for “clerical errors by incompetent employees”. Tech has places to hide the marginal student (see Joe Hamilton’s degree)just like all the other schools. If you all are so smart why don’t you all figure out a way to compete for championships? Or, maybe there isn’t a calculus equation that lends itself to athletic superiority? Admit you cheated, admit you recruit the same dummies that everyone else does, take your medicine and quit whining like a bunch of fat babies on a humid August afternoon.
By Sam
June 19, 2008 9:17 AM | Link to this
shanegt21, success is Athens isn’t going anywhere. It ain’t tech sissy boy.
By Zeke
June 19, 2008 9:26 AM | Link to this
Michael Cameron you ignorant jackazz! Of course Tech’s AD is going to play dumb. Mistakes that went on for 7 years? The NCAA saw right through the systematic funnelling of players into crip courses that didn’t lead to progression toward a degree. Get a grip cretin. You cheated, you got caught. At least be man enough to admit it and get on down the highway. But of course that won’t happen. You whining little girls from the trade school would much rather make lame excuses instead of fixing the problem. Stands to reason though. When the rubber meets the road, techmites always get a flat. Oh well. Thanks for proving once again that Tech is the biggest assembalage of ignorance and scapegoating losers in college athletics. Enjoy your future of lose lose lose. It’ll only get worse girls.
By ugaheros
June 19, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this
Not to flame on this, but wasn’t the person who turned tech into the ncaa let go, or asked to leave? Either way we both got caught doing something wrong, and were punished. Time to move on.
By techf@n
June 19, 2008 10:43 AM | Link to this
Sam- You lower middle class slob. Success “is” Athens huh? Sure
By Sam
June 19, 2008 10:56 AM | Link to this
tech@fan enjoy your little keyboard miscue victory. It is the only victory you will ever experience over anything UGA. But you may be on to something. Tech should give up intercollegiate athletics and focus on video gaming, keystroking, and such. And by the way little wussy boy, have another miserable day of pen&s envy teeth nashing over your inferiority in this state. Sorry little girl, but November will be here sooner than you think. If you want to you can go ahead and bend over while waiting to accept that big red and black projectile that gets broken off in you gnats each and every year of your miserable tech no show fan lives.
By techf@n
June 19, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this
Sam- You continue making $30,000 a year, and barely making your payments on your double wide and camry. I can’t wait for November my friend, and for Tech to keep the fleabags from athens out of the national championship (if lsu, uf, usc don’t) just like wvu vs. pitt, and usc vs. ucla. Just wait for it.
By ImagineThat
June 19, 2008 11:08 AM | Link to this
Just saw where Las Vegas just installed UGA as 6-1 favorites to win the BCS title this year.
By Sam
June 19, 2008 11:37 AM | Link to this
Well techf@n, if it was 30,000.00 it would be about 15000.00 more than yours. Now we’re waiting techf@n, tell us how you are a multimillion dollar a year CEO. We understand techf@n. Losers like you blogging from some dark little CAD cubicle have to have some kind of dream to keep you from becomming suicidal. Another November will come and go and this time next year you’ll be passing more gas about how the little stingerles jackets will once again end UGA’s eight game winning streak against the girls from the trade school. But even you deserve to have a dream. Even if it will only become a nightmare.
By Doug
June 19, 2008 11:45 AM | Link to this
I bet techf@n goes to the games disguised as an empty seat.
By techf@n
June 19, 2008 12:33 PM | Link to this
Hmm, Doug you are pretty clever, an empty seat, thats funny. And Sam, you just wait for it. Its coming. And it would be tough for me to be suicidal considering how much enjoyment I get by pi$$ing you all off by talking about all you poor, white trash, wal-mart, band wagon UGA fans, and how your degree (which im sure you do not have) is worth little more than bragging rights in football (for now) and still can’t get you anywhere in life. So in the end, money talks, poor white trash bull$hi t walks boys. Just wait for November, when you make the mistake of overlooking the 5-6 Jackets, and your BCS title dreams are ruined. This is my prediction, I really couldn’t care less what you think about it, but by all means, flame on.
By Pitbull
June 19, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this
Tech hurried and self reported its violations of allowing 11 academically ineligible players to play football over a 7 year period only after the NCAA had already been made aware of the violations.
The guy running the academic complaince program for the Tech football team was a self described life long Tech fan that never missed a game. That made matters worse for Tech and he retired.
As usual, Tech changes the story over time and lies to cover up the truth.
By Dan Wallace
June 19, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this
So techf@n, in other words you do alot of walking.
By techf@n
June 19, 2008 1:08 PM | Link to this
ZINGGGGGGGGG Good one Dan Wallace. So much fun to argue with a bunch of d-bag fat losers on an internet blog, about a sports team that they DONT LIKE. get a life guys, im just bored at work, you guys suck and need a hobby.
By Facing Reality
June 19, 2008 2:09 PM | Link to this
Yes fellow UGA fans I am facing reality. It has become obvious to me from reading the posts of all the super genius, over achieving, good looking, athletically gifted, wealthy and retired at age 28 nerds that there is no hope for all of us retards who went to UGA and majored in crip classes like micro biology and genetics. I am giving up that silly masters degree that I got from Tulane (I”m sure it will be declared null and void when they realize that I got my bachelors from UGA) and moving back to Unadilla to live in a used single wide trailer that I will have to rent (at an exorbitant rent) from a highly successful Nerd Herder and then I will get a job at the local Burger-Biggie so that I can sell fries to all the other ultra rich, handsome and successful Technerds that feel sorry for me and patronize my place of employment. Please tell the 42 people that were working for me on those silly property developments that I have seen the light and I’m sorry that I led them down the primrose path when it should have been obvious that I could never amount to anything because I didn’t take calculus. Woe is me, maybe Billy Payne can give up his obviously failing enterprises and chairmanship of the Masters and come on down to middle Georgia and help me run the drive thru window on the night shift at Burger-Biggie. Maybe in my next life I can come back as a true renaissance Nerd and get the same type of degree that has led Reuben Houston to unparralleled success in his chosen field of chemical sales and distribution of some fine imported product, failing that, maybe I can emulate Joe Hamilton in auto operation and rear end renovation for other people’s cars all the while supporting my local brewery and partaking of some of Mr. Houston’s finest product. Yea, verily I have seen the light and I’m ready to face reality. Yes sir, boss nerd, would you like fries with that.
By Michael Cameron
June 19, 2008 2:26 PM | Link to this
To Zeke,
Listen boy, I’m man enough. I don’t appreciate the ugly name-calling. Because of your behavior up above, I feel the need to defend myself. You are the first “person,” since I started participating on these Internet message services in 2004, to issue a personal insult against me in the form of crude, childish name-calling. I sometimes take people to task if I disagree with them (as in my remarks currently appearing after another article on this site), but I try to use reason and I’m mature enough to not resort to calling people names — unless they richly deserve it, as do you, you vile low-class punk. If you want to see an “ignorant jackazz” or someone who conducts him(?)self like an overage, hysterical “whining little girl,” look in the mirror. Should you decide to make an effort to grow up, then you can argue your points aggressively, even by saying someone else’s view is “ridiculous,” “stupid,” or “dumb,” but without resorting to 2nd-grader-on-the-playground aspersions such as calling someone infantile names (“jackazz,” “little girls”) when he does not deserve it. You see, Zeke, I didn’t say a single word against UGA (or whichever school you align yourself with) — not a solitary syllable. In fact, I never attack UGA; there’s much I like about UGA and I often pull for them (heresy?) when the Bulldogs aren’t playing Tech. I offered a defense of my folks — that’s all. Agree or disagree, but, do it as an adult.
As for Tech officials playing dumb, how do you know? You are guilty of dumbness — no surprise there — by making that assumption. You know, as in the word a-s-s-u-m-e means you make an a* of u and…you.
By the way, what is an “assembalage”? You’ve concluded that “Tech is the biggest assembalage of ignorance…” I suppose if “techmites” weren’t so ignorant, our vocabularies might contain such advanced terminology. It’s pretty damn revealing when someone accuses another person of something and inadvertently indicts himself in the same sentence in which he advances the accusation.
I don’t claim to know, in absolute terms, whether the A.D. and other Tech officials knew — and were therefore duplicitous — of the “C’s” that should have been “D’s”. That’s why I carefully worded my remarks to say that “according to Tech…” I don’t know, and neither do any of you. Yes, I’m admittedly prejudiced in favor of Tech, but that’s appropriate, just as you are biased toward your allegiances. I assure you that, if there is a certainty that my side, Tech or whoever or whatever, has knowingly done wrong — such as intentionally cheated — I will admit as much and say we were out of bounds. Otherwise, being human, if I err it will be while giving my people the benefit of the doubt.
My name is Michael Cameron of Sandy Springs/Atlanta, Georgia, and I approve this message.
By quaildawg
June 19, 2008 2:27 PM | Link to this
techf@n you can take pride that your (I’m assuming here) alma mater and their elitist attitude fans have beaten UGA in two things. Being the first major university in the south to start a Sleeper Cell and leading the state universitiy athletic departments in gross weight and distribution of marijuana. (I’m sure both were research projects that were misinterpreted by law enforcement). There is some comfort in the share of “redneck/trailertrash” ,as you refer to them, that cheer for UGA. I don’t think Johnny Taliban will be setting up shop at UGA. In the words of Hank Jr. “ol’ boys raised on shotguns” But there is hope that if alObama is elected President Tech can claim the above were ground breaking programs and apply for federal funding to further these worthwhile projects. I can see it now…Welcome to Historic Grant Field at Bobby Dodd Stadium this year sponsored by Al Jazeer and ZigZag. PS: Be sure to put on your agenda for Friday that the Dawgs play at 2 PM so that you can wriggle in angst for the balance of the day. One of two things will happen after 6 you will be on the Dawg blog area trash talking (as you will be living vicariously through Stanford) or you will be on suicide watch for the weekend. Have a GREAT DAY!!!
By John Holmes
June 19, 2008 3:01 PM | Link to this
In my time on this Earth, there have been 40 UGA/GT football games. UGA has won 29 of them. This is one statistic, no matter how many times you Techies try to disect it, that will not come out in your favor. Now why in the he11 would anyone in Ga. want to root for a team that not only has lost 29 out of the last 40 to it’s biggest rival, but also uses pi$$-yellow as one of it’s main colors? It defies all logic.
By Zeb
June 19, 2008 3:30 PM | Link to this
Quail and other dawgs, take it easy guys. You know how we hate it when they come to our side. It’s ok to go back and forth, but geez, you guys are brutal.
By techf@n
June 19, 2008 4:09 PM | Link to this
Haha, thanks guys. I was pretty sure that some of you fat rednecks would get p** off by that. So you call us nerds, we call you rednecks, its a good trade. Quaildawg- And as far as trash talking on the uga boards, I won’t be. You see, Friday after work I have much better things to do than post on an internet blog about uga. And no, its not video games, but thats a funny thought. Its just funny how mad everyone gets on here.
Facing Reality- Good luck with your company, sounds like you are on your way to the Fortune 500 soon!! This website is very entertaining. I thought that I would enjoy talking tech sports, but I think i like offending stupid rednecks more. Flame on kids
By GT GRAD
June 19, 2008 5:13 PM | Link to this
To John Holmes:
You might want to take a look at UGA vs. Florida record…….does this mean you are now a Florida Gators fan? Of course not. True fans remain loyal through the good times and the bad times.
GT is an excellent school with a better than average atheletic program. GT students, fans and graduates have plenty to be thankful for and proud of considering the history of the school and the atheletic programs.
By I Spy
June 19, 2008 6:08 PM | Link to this
I am a life long GT fan and pull for them no matter who they play. At one time in my life I pulled for UGA unless they were playing GT. Now I cannot bring myself to pull for them at anytime. Not because of the team, but because of the idiotic manner in which their so called fan conduct themselves. A few years ago while having lunch at the Varsity before the GT/UGA game a fight broke out. Everyone assumed that it was Tech vs. Ga., but NO—it was two female UGA fans, so-called ladies, maybe in their 50’s. Seems that one took the others chair, and those two Southern Belles went at it. The boys in blue broke up the fight and advised both to sober up, although one did not appear to be drinking. Then I read what you so-called fans and graduates write and I understand. This was probably Quaildawg and Pitbulls mothers. Which one wants to claim the one that was drinking?
By dawgy
June 19, 2008 6:17 PM | Link to this
In the last 45 years, the UGA/UF series stands at 24-20-1, in favor of Florida. That’s pretty even. Tech can’t say the same with respect to their record against Georgia the past 45 years. But nice try, I knew you techies couldn’t talk football with us without living vicariously through the Gators.
By GT GRAD
June 19, 2008 9:50 PM | Link to this
Why only look back 45 years? The following was cut and pasted directly from Wikipedia:
Georgia Tech holds 4 national titles and Georgia holds 2 national titles for a total of 6 national titles and 29 conference titles between them, making the rivalry a battle between two historically prestigious programs.
The record between the two teams is 59 Georgia wins, 38 Georgia Tech wins, and 5 ties. Georgia has currently won seven straight games and along with the 1991–1997 win streak are the longest win streaks for Georgia in the series. The longest Georgia Tech winning streak was 8 games from 1949–1956.
The first Georgia Tech football teamThe first time the two teams met on the football field was on November 4, 1893.[15][16] The then Georgia School of Technology (Georgia Tech’s original name) Blacksmiths led by coaches Stanley E. “Stan” Borleske and Casey C. Finnegan traveled 70 miles (110 km) by train to play the Georgia team coached by Ernest Brown in Athens at Herty Field.[17] The Blacksmiths defeated Georgia handily 28-6[18] on four scores by Leonard Wood,[1] a thirty-three year old United States Army physician and future Medal of Honor recipient.[19] During and after the game, disgruntled Georgia fans threw rocks and other debris at the Georgia Tech players and chased the victorious Blacksmiths back to their awaiting train.
By dawgy
June 19, 2008 11:23 PM | Link to this
sooooo…your point is that Georgia leads the all time series by 21 games? Or is it that a military ringer led the “blacksmiths” to a win in the reconstruction era? Or is it that our student body scared the crap out of your “blacksmiths” on the way back to the sh!t hole that is Atlanta? Pick the best one to suit your needs.
By SoWhat
June 20, 2008 6:56 AM | Link to this
GT GRAD I am so glad that looking back to the leather helmet days elevates your 2008 level of self esteem. Because obviously when you look forward your outlook against UGA and the rest of the college football universe looks rather grim. Second tier heading for the basement. And really, all your looking back has done is show that UGA owns your butt. Then and now. Enjoy your future as the homecoming opponent of choice for the Dukes and Vanderbilts of the world.
By Wreck'EmTech
June 20, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this
Glad we’re all talking about the article here. So I’m not sure about you guys, but I think PJ is doing some good things despite his circumstances. I’ll be there for every game this year like always, but in all honesty I’m waiting for the BCS bowl team we could have when our players get a little older and have learned good execution of the system. Alright, enough about the article. Resume your infantile slap fight!
By Jacketnation
June 20, 2008 9:00 PM | Link to this
I think we have a good coach. I don’t know however how quickly Tech is going to be able to adapt to the new system.
Let just all hope this fall Barack Hussien Muslim Osama does not get elected. The anti-christ will abolish football.
By navyfan
June 20, 2008 11:44 PM | Link to this
You guys appear to have some serious issues with reality down south. GT has hired an absolutely great coach in PJ. And after 2-3 years, UGA will appreciate this as well - both on gameday and in recruiting.
We absolutely hated to see him leave, but knew that someone down south would bring him home.
I could care less about the GT-UGA rivalry, but UGA shouldn’t be so cocky upfront. I think you will be sweating bullets on this game a few years downstream.
PJ is one of the very best in-game coaches out there, so if you think you have a lock in the 1st half, you need to come back in from the half-time tailgate, because he will make the 2nd half a new game.
Wishing lots of luck to PJ at GT.
By John Holmes
June 21, 2008 9:03 AM | Link to this
navyfan…..Of course you were sad to see Johnson go…..you only had 2-3 wins a year for like, 20 years until he got there. Nobody says Johnson is a bad coach….we saw him coach in Ga for years, remember? Now, I could also care less about the Army/Navy rivalry. See what I mean? What’s important to you also might not be very important in our region.
GTGrad….Why would I look at the UF/UGA record? We also still lead that one. I am more concerned about getting the series with UT and AU even. Tech fans love to drag out the UF series, but they did pretty much nothing against us until 1990. He11, even Ray Goof beat em once, back in 1989, and he was absolutely god-awful as a coach.
By CarolinaJacket
June 23, 2008 10:15 AM | Link to this
Goff was 46-34-1. There have been a lot who were much worse than that.
By Liposuction
January 7, 2009 2:01 AM | Link to this
I have to disagree with that last comment…doesn’t make sense
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January 7, 2009 2:58 AM | Link to this
That is a really smart idea.
By Lasik Eye Surgery
January 10, 2009 10:12 PM | Link to this
That’s a smart point…for sure