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Should Tech have been in CBI?

There’s the NCAA, and then there’s the NIT and this year there’s the CBI, the College Basketball Invitational, a tournament for those teams that didn’t make the 65-team NCAA field or the 32-team NIT.

Who’s 98th?

Not Georgia Tech. Virginia, which lost to Tech in the ACC tournament, is a No. 1 seed in the CBI. Cincinnati, which lost its last six games to finish 13-18, is in the 16-team tournament, too.

Would you have wanted the Yellow Jackets (15-17) to play in the first-year tournament, which isn’t run by the NCAA? Before you answer, be sure to weigh the benefits of added practice for the returning players against the potential stain of being associated with a tourney that made Cincinnati a five-games-below-.500 at-large pick.

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By old gold engineer

March 18, 2008 5:36 PM | Link to this

Let’s consider this season mercifully over and trust that lessons learned will be implemented for a much improved 2008-2009 season.

By Richard

March 18, 2008 5:37 PM | Link to this

Why? So we could validate how bad the season has been? The post season NIT and now CBI are like finishing first in your class at UGA. You’re still dumber than everyone else.

By billgt

March 18, 2008 5:41 PM | Link to this

no, the season was over when we lost to uga

By Joe

March 18, 2008 6:31 PM | Link to this

Did GT replace their nets yet…

By TornadoDawg

March 18, 2008 6:38 PM | Link to this

Hey, we Dawgs, prior to winning a championship on Tech’s court, had hoped to be invited to the CBI. Why not? However, my 11 yo son had a joke that said, “Do you know why they are adding a ‘Y’ and ‘S’ to the CBI torunament name? So it could be an acronym for College Basketball Isn’t Your Sport.

In reality, Tech’s team could have used some extra practice for next year. Any chance a team gets for extra practice should be taken.

By R

March 18, 2008 7:06 PM | Link to this

Wow. Not bitter are we, Richard? There’s always the Abrams Star Trek movie to look forward to.

By PastorZeb

March 18, 2008 7:07 PM | Link to this

Maturity and discipline are the difference between a good sports team and a great sports team. This year’s round ball team showed flashes of both, but couldn’t sustain either. I don’t care much for Coach K, but he obviously holds his players accountable for being both mature and discipled, working hard to build a team. The poor shot selection and turnovers in the ACC tournament illustrate the work we have left to do in these two areas.

By Bill

March 18, 2008 7:34 PM | Link to this

Perhaps instead of choosing teams that didn’t make the NCAA’s or the NIT, the CBI should be the 16 worst teams in college basketball. Teams would advance by losing, with the final game determining the worst team for the season. It would be a lot more interesting then anything else the CBI can offer.

By Bill

March 18, 2008 7:35 PM | Link to this

Perhaps instead of choosing teams that didn’t make the NCAA’s or the NIT, the CBI should be the 16 worst teams in college basketball. Teams would advance by losing, with the final game determining the worst team for the season. It would be a lot more interesting then anything else the CBI can offer.

By Bama

March 18, 2008 7:36 PM | Link to this

Fire Paul Hewitt

By DawgMan

March 18, 2008 7:49 PM | Link to this

The NIT and CBI are a joke, a tournament for a bunch of loser teams that weren’t good enough to make the only tournament that matters, the NCAAs. UgA will go to the Sweet 16—-mark it down. Tech stays home, another failed season.

By Concerned

March 18, 2008 8:03 PM | Link to this

Hewitt - 8 years at Tech…ONE winning season in the ACC

Gailey - 6 years at Tech…TWO winning season in the ACC

I thought the bball program had the higher standards?

By TDone

March 18, 2008 8:12 PM | Link to this

Concerned, my good man, we played for the 2004 National Championship. The best Gailey could do was to get us to the Gator Bowl.

By mcdawg

March 18, 2008 8:16 PM | Link to this

chuckle chuckle ha ha ha tee hee-bally hoo

By The Big Bug

March 18, 2008 8:24 PM | Link to this

UGa in the NCAA’s? Tech in the CBI,maybe? What’s wrong with this picture?

By CarolinaJacket

March 18, 2008 8:37 PM | Link to this

Its time to put it to rest. If you can’t even make the NIT you don’t need to be looking elsewhere. The guys did the best they could do, they just didn’t have the horses this year.

By Joe

March 18, 2008 8:51 PM | Link to this

Why blame Hewitt? You techies can blame your poor season on Crittenton and Young going one-and-done. Surely Hewitt didn’t tell them to jump to NBA.

By tom

March 18, 2008 11:05 PM | Link to this

Hey, after football season all we Dawgs heard was “wait till basketball.” Wha’ happened?

By Jon

March 18, 2008 11:36 PM | Link to this

To all you so called UGA basketball fans, you got lucky. The SEC is absolutely terrible in basketball. Fortunately for you, Vandy and Tennessee, the only real teams in the league, lost. Ok, you beat a bad Tech team and made the tourney as a 14 seed. Congratulations. Maybe now Felton can recruit some better convicts and give them the Harrick “draw the half court line” final so they can pass their classes. Everyone go back to their double-wides and wait for football season so you guys actually have a team to brag about.

By Joe

March 19, 2008 1:17 AM | Link to this

^^^^^^^^^^^Sour Techie^^^^^^^^^^

By surfrider

March 19, 2008 3:07 AM | Link to this

This team needs all the practice and experimentation it can get and then figure out what type of recruits it needs. Really, the program needs to figure out how to recruit sustainable in this era of early jumps to the NBA. Cremins could’nt figure it out at the end of his excellent career at Tech and now Hewitt seems to have some trouble with it. Maybe the AD can help plot some strategy on this problem.

By bwwbasketball

March 19, 2008 4:45 AM | Link to this

I have said before that our biggest problem is this. Look at our veterans. Clinch has gotten worse. Jeremis has been oblivious this season, I think setting a record for missing a thousand shots within three feet. Morrow’s performances have ranged between both poles, but usually not for the better, for the so called ‘great’ 3-point shooter that he is.

Our inbounding has STILL been horrible; turnovers despicable, but with a rookie guard, expected; and we still cannot make free throws.

Point being this: getting better with practice is a natural occurrence, yet we don’t. Once or twice and it’s the players. But, it seems to happen a lot. I have given Hewitt a lot of rope, but he can’t be allowed to hang us with it.

By bwwbasketball

March 19, 2008 4:47 AM | Link to this

I have said before that our biggest problem is this. Look at our veterans. Clinch has gotten worse. Jeremis has been oblivious this season, I think setting a record for missing a thousand shots within three feet. Morrow’s performances have ranged between both poles, but usually not for the better, for the so called ‘great’ 3-point shooter that he is.

Our inbounding has STILL been horrible; turnovers despicable, but with a rookie guard, expected; and we still cannot make free throws.

Point being this: getting better with practice is a natural occurrence, yet we don’t. Once or twice and it’s the players. But, it seems to happen a lot. I have given Hewitt a lot of rope, but he can’t be allowed to hang us with it.

By bwwbasketball

March 19, 2008 5:01 AM | Link to this

also, other teams with two players taken in the NBA draft in the same year in recent times, have been pretty damn good college teams for the most part. Last year, we were not “great” by any stretch, we had a lot of weak points. With our draftees gone, the weak points have been definitely been exposed. And most of these guys were on that team last year. Big shocker here, best player in a tech uniform this year, to me anyway, a freshman from College Park.

By bwwbasketball

March 19, 2008 5:29 AM | Link to this

a freshman…again…

By huh?

March 19, 2008 8:37 AM | Link to this

Hey, bwwbasketball, do you actually know anything about basketball? Jeremis oblivious - do you watch the games? Jeremis stepped it up in last month or so. As for Clinch, for whatever reason he lost confidence. And best player a freshman from College Park? The best freshman was from out of state so what are you talking about?

By Dadgum

March 19, 2008 8:47 AM | Link to this

Not sure the CBI tourney is worth the extra practice. The CBI holds no allure whatsoever. Basically it is like a scrimmage game before the season and destined to be poorly attended. Oh yeah and it costs the home team $60,000 to hold it. That would mean about 7,000 in attendance to break even. Ain’t happening. I say find a way to add more at large teams to the NCAA instead of adding another tourney to catch the NIT castoffs.

By Joe

March 19, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this

Hahaha, Smith’s oblivious now huh…he’s the one guy I notice the most on the court. He busts his tail going after balls and taking charges. In one of your last games of the season, maybe at Duke, did he not fly into the crowd trying to save a ball? You want oblivious, look at our ex player Rashad Singleton, he couldn’t catch a ball if you placed it in his hands, and had the attention span of a five year old.

By Sam

March 19, 2008 11:20 AM | Link to this

Anyone who thinks the NCAA has the 65 best teams in the country is smoking something I wish they would share with me. The automatic qualifiers from some of these obscure conferences are a joke. We talk about a D-1 playoff in football and we really don’t have one in basketball. At least the BCS uses some objective measures to select teams for the it’s bowls. All a BB team has to do is declare itself D-1, join the Southwestern East Texas Conference, win and they are in the tournament. As a Tech grad I will be disowned but “Go Bulldogs”.

By Jimdog08

March 19, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this

Jon

If the SEC is so terrible at basketball, then why do we have more teams in the NCAA tournament than the ACC???

By scooter11

March 19, 2008 1:27 PM | Link to this

Sam: Thanks for your support. Maybe the best 65 aren’t there, but even if they were, only 8-10 have a real shot anyway. The other 55 or so get to say they went to the Dance - and got there under circumstances within the guidelines that define how to get there. Some earn their way in by winning a conference tournament, most by subjective/objective review of RPI and beauty.

By ben

March 19, 2008 2:28 PM | Link to this

Its not that the players are one and done that bothers me, its the fact that we did zero with the one and doners. Syracuse rode Carmello to a championship. Bosh took us nowhere and Young and Crit took us to a first round loss in the ACC tourney and a first round loss in the NCAA. Instead of using the famous “ten guys play two minutes at a time” scheme, we should be force feeding these stars the ball for 40 minutes. Thats what the Raptors do, and it has worked out quite well for them. Thats what Cremins did with Marbury and that worked out OK too. When Schumpert gets here next year, make him a star, not a role player.

By Dan

March 19, 2008 2:37 PM | Link to this

The NIT and CIB have legit participants, and good for them that their players, and interested fans, have their respective seasons extended.

The top 12 teams in the NIT could be exchanged for the #14-16 seeds in the NCAA tournament, with no discernible hit to the quality of the NCAA field. And probably the best eight teams playing the CIB could (1) do just fine in the NIT, and (2) do just as well as the #15-16 seeds in the NCAA tournament. There’s plenty of overlap at the margins.

Oh — regarding a third postseason tournament, the CIB isn’t the first to do it. In fact, it was the NCAA who did it — with the “National Commissioners Invitational Tournament” in 1974 and 1975, devised to compete with the NIT and hopefully run it out of business. An Indiana team coached by some guy named Bobby Knight won that allegedly useless tournament in 1974, in between a NCAA Final 4 appearance in ‘73 and an Elite 8 appearance in the ‘75 NCAA tournament.

By old nerd

March 19, 2008 3:00 PM | Link to this

the dogs didn’t blink and deserve congrats

By Jason

March 19, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this

Unlike these other Tech fans, I say congrats to Georgia. You owned us in both sports this year.

By scooter11

March 19, 2008 3:36 PM | Link to this

Thanks, Jason. And to answer the headline question, yes, gt should be in the CBI.

By Joe

March 19, 2008 4:24 PM | Link to this

Hey thanks, classy on you all’s part. Yall actually have a pg returning and a nice incoming class. If dickey can come back and clinch can regain his confidence, Tech bball should be back. From what I watched, I kinda like that Peacock kid too.

By "own"

March 19, 2008 4:31 PM | Link to this

Jason, does that mean when Tech beats the dogs next year, we own them?

By GT

March 19, 2008 5:22 PM | Link to this

Basketball is not like football. Practice is not as important for a team as football. There are only so many things a basketball team of five on offense and defense can do. Where the Tech guys need practice is in the foul shooting which is a very individualized thing, which keeps a team home that had the talent to be playing in the big dance. Maybe they should be throwing a medicine ball around so they could improve the motor skills that eluted them all year.

By PS Our Bball Team Stinks

March 19, 2008 5:36 PM | Link to this

I’d love to actually comment on one of these blogs if they didn’t become anything more then GT vs UGA comments. When and if there are real blogs created for discussion on the ACTUAL subject, let me know.

By Bravesfan79

March 21, 2008 10:07 PM | Link to this

By DawgMan: “The NIT and CBI are a joke, a tournament for a bunch of loser teams that weren’t good enough to make the only tournament that matters, the NCAAs. UgA will go to the Sweet 16—-mark it down. Tech stays home, another failed season.”

Dawg: Congrats on your terribly wrong prediction. It truly shows how little you know about basketball. I think you better learn to appreciate the CBI and NIT because thats what Georgia’s program is geared towards!
Next year without Gains yall might can hope for a CBI bid AT BEST!!

Man…4 wins in a row and yall think your program is better than GT… HAHA!!

By Jimmy

March 22, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this

I think most UGA fans think their hoops team is better than Tech’s is because they actually beat them this year.

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