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If not Choice, then who?
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Tashard Choice remains questionable for Saturday’s game at Virginia because of a hamstring injury. Tech coach Chan Gailey said Tuesday that if Choice can’t play it will be running back by committee, and Gailey wouldn’t say who would line up there first.
So, let’s throw it out there for discussion. Which running backs do you use, and in which way, if Choice can’t play?
Rashaun Grant looked good on three carries against Boston College. Is he physically ready to carry the load after a hamstring injury kept him out of practice for weeks?
Jonathan Dwyer ranks second to Choice in carries and has averaged a whopping 7.9 yards per attempt. Can he be dependable enough as a blocker?
Jamaal Evans didn’t play against Boston College but has carried the ball more in his 1.25 seasons than Grant over the same stretch. Is he fast enough to get the job done against an ACC defense?
My guess: You’ll see a lot of Grant and Dwyer, sometimes on the field together.
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By JamieDAWG
September 18, 2007 2:43 PM | Link to this
It doesn’t matter who they put back there, they all suck.
By surfride
September 18, 2007 3:03 PM | Link to this
Gailey if not mistaken won a National Championship at Troy by running the Wishbone offense. I’m suggesting they start to organize a Wishbone offense with a controlled passing game for the next time we face a prolific offense that we can’t stop, like BC. We have the backs including many that are being redshirted. We can interchange some Wr’s and QB’s and TE’s in the mix as well. We have the FB’s. Basically it’s the triple option with a passing game. A slant off what Myer is doing in Florida without totally spreading the field. You bring it in when the regular scheme is not working like Saturday or when need to keep ball out of other’s hands. Also four down mindset would be helpful plus no kickoffs if we’re behind. Only onsides kicks and two point conversions. If we’re going to l oose then might as well try to engineer something. Can we imagine Dwyer and Choice in the same backfield with Cox at FB, Bennett and the other Qb’s and a couple of our Wr’s. There is somewhat similar experience in 1975 when we had Jimmy Robinson at wr in Pepper’s Wishbone offense. The key now is we can pass the ball out of it.
By Digger
September 18, 2007 3:07 PM | Link to this
Oh, if Tech has to rely on their passing game….it will be a long day. The mighty Haylie Bennet can’t carry a D-1 team. What do you expect, though? He was a unrated QB with 2 scholarship offers coming out of high school. Hopefully, Chan never anticipated having to rely on him to carry his team. He seems to be on a great track to a wrestling career and must be a beast in the weight room. He was slinging around the “stud” D-lineman. It is great to be in the ACC, though. The sixth or seventh best conference in the land….should give Tech a chance in most games.
By Calvin
September 18, 2007 3:22 PM | Link to this
My guess: Some of Bennett’s passes will start being caught, thus taking some pressure off of the running game.
By gp burdell
September 18, 2007 3:30 PM | Link to this
Dwyer. I don’t care who, really, so long as they can get some first downs.
What we really need is a passing touchdown.
By gp burdell
September 18, 2007 3:52 PM | Link to this
Dwyer. I don’t care who, really, so long as they can get some first downs.
What we really need is a passing touchdown.
By smitty
September 18, 2007 4:05 PM | Link to this
it won’t matter who’s playing RB if chan/bond don’t change up the offense and try to give it a different look; how about a little misdirection, different blocking schemes to help this challenged O-line, options, screens, etc. …….look for uva and everyone else to stop the run first………chan and bond better have a plan to help out the passing offense or GT might end up making uva look good…..of course, this is pretty much the same story line we’ve heard over the years with chan’s offense….count on the D to protect a 10-7 lead, stick with the run no matter what, fail to develop any consistency at QB/passsing although i think TB is much better than he’s shown, and stand there looking lost on the sidelines on gameday with no inkling of what to do re adustments if what he’s ordered up for the gameplan isn’t working (is chan still calling the plays and bond just sending in the signals?) …….7-4 here we come (i hope GT wins at least seven)
By old gold engineer
September 18, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this
Having two backs in the backfield at the same time with an equal chance of getting a handoff sounds like a great concept to me. Wonder why Tech doesn’t do that these days? What’s wrong with giving the defenders one more option to think about occasionally? Makes even more sense to try something new when your running game is being consistently shut down. But, that’s just an engineer’s input.
Speaking of individual backs, I thought Grant did a good job running the ball but not so good catching. I’d also like to see Evans participate to mix things up a little.
By fred
September 18, 2007 4:09 PM | Link to this
The real question is, “have the coach(es)decided who—of them—is showing up?Does the GT staff have the FIRE IN THEIR BELLY? Do our coaches have FIGHT IN THEM, or are they “wishing” that D backs will cover,that WR will not “gather together” and that someone—anyone—will rush the passer and make a tackle? Tech’s problem is that no one coach accepts the accountability for a 110% hard-nosed effort lasting 60 minutes. NOTHING LESS.
By Gailey sucks
September 18, 2007 4:34 PM | Link to this
I like your guess. And I think Dwyer should get the bulk of the carries, but…
Given Chan’s penchant for playing who he shouldn’t. We’ll see Grant in alot, we’ll throw to him, and he’ll drop it. We’ll give it to him on the reverse and he wont get as far as Dwyer would. But we’ll still be pretty successful on the ground overall I think.
By eaglejacket
September 18, 2007 4:45 PM | Link to this
What’s the possibility of seeing a little more of the Nesbitt read/option package? I thought that might be something we saw a little of Sat. night, especially as strong as BC was against the power run game. Getting Dwyer and Grant to the edges or even Nesbitt on occasion could be an option if Choice is limited.
By Mark
September 18, 2007 5:02 PM | Link to this
I concur on Grant and Dwyer. I’d personally like to see Dwyer carry the load and utilize Grant more from the slot and so forth.
By db4590
September 18, 2007 5:04 PM | Link to this
Well, my curiousity and desire to see what he can do says “Give Dwyer the ball” But I am sure that Bond and Co. will pass more often w/out TC and therefore have Evans or Grant in there for blocking and situations where Grant will be in the slot and Evans will be in there to block. I would like to see Nesbitt and Dwyer run the option some, though….. That would either be exciting or tragic….
By DawgCrap
September 18, 2007 5:58 PM | Link to this
JamieDawg,
If Dwyer sucks so bad, why did UGA recruit him so hard??
Your man MR must be losing it…
You’re a loser.
By What the ?
September 18, 2007 6:06 PM | Link to this
Here’s the deal - As I was driving home Sunday, I looked in my mirror to see a silver car with a G tag on the front. As they passed me (speeding of course), they must have noticed the Yellow Jackets magnet and GT sticker on the rear of my van. When they pulled along side, they proceeded to hoot and holler and pump their fists in the air like they had something to do with Tech’s loss or even yet Georgia’s win. Of course they got no response from anyone in my vehicle.
Their car also had a G sticker on the rear window and (here is the best part) one of those gay RAINBOW stickers on the rear deck lid (and BUTTS county plates. How appropriate!
Proof that UGA fans are both Obnoxious AND Gay.
And they wonder why they are hated…….
By gtguy
September 18, 2007 6:07 PM | Link to this
Evans is quick enough to play against anyone. Each RB has his own strengths and weakness so it will truly be all three that play. However, I bet Dwyer gets the most snaps.
By what
September 18, 2007 6:12 PM | Link to this
Dwyer is a good back and should have a solid career. But, please, get your facts straight. How do you know that UGA recruited him so hard? Once Caleb King committed…then that was it. Yes, they offered him and would love to have him. Please don’t make yourself look silly. I assure you that coaches weren’t beating down his door once Caleb committed.
By PoorPupps
September 18, 2007 6:25 PM | Link to this
JamieDawg, do you work or just stay in your trailer all day and try to insult a classier institution? BTW, your QB Stafford Sucks! Nice game against the Old ball coach. You and the rest of Redneck Dawg nation need to get over your superiority mind of the Dawgs are better, they suck.
By HiveJockSniffer
September 18, 2007 7:02 PM | Link to this
Smitty, you are right about Chan. His response after halftime against BC was to run it more. No matter who is OC at GT, he will be Chan’s puppet, and you will see the same arcane approach to offense. Tech will be be a 7 or 8 win (last year’s 9-5 record will be his best at Tech) team with Droopy Dog as head coach, and UGA will always kick his tired butt. However, the jocksniffers on the Hive love him.
By HiveJockSniffer
September 18, 2007 7:08 PM | Link to this
PoorPupps, we have a more arrogant institution, but I wouldn’t say classier at all. And BTW, UGA has owned Chan, the same as the Spurrier has owned UGA. It is embarrassing to talk smack when we get our butt beat on a regular basis by the Dogs. I don’t believe Chan will ever beat UGA.
By GT
September 18, 2007 7:12 PM | Link to this
Why dont they give nesbitt a chance to throw the ball or atleast give him some playing time.I want to see what he can do
By ben
September 18, 2007 7:22 PM | Link to this
While some of your ideas are romantic, they aren’t practical. I’d hate to spend an afternoon watching Bennet try to run a wishbone. And, the reason our running game is so good is because we have an All-American fullback, thus no two back set. We’ll win our customary 7-8 “Braine” games and if we’re lucky, maybe one or two more.
By James
September 18, 2007 7:26 PM | Link to this
Why do all my fellow Tech fans expect our offense to just become the best in the land overnight? For God’s sake, give the boys some time. A new QB and a pair of new WR’s, we’re not going to get better in one day. Our passing game will get better, it just won’t get better overnight.
By destin
September 18, 2007 8:08 PM | Link to this
Running back is not our major problem. PAT CLARK has been burned so often he will skip purgatory and go straight to heaven. Reece and Butler may not have the experience, but at least they have the speed and quickness to play CB. If I see another game where #6 is toasted time and time again, I will begin to wonder how great our D-coordinator truly is.
By smitty
September 18, 2007 8:10 PM | Link to this
my dear james, we don’t want GT to become the best overnight, just decent against GOOD D1 competition……we just don’t like the same broken record playing over and over again……it turns out ND is just not a D1 team this year….it was obvious our O-line had difficulties against freakin SAMFORD…..the coaches left TB, in his third or fourth start, in the game against samford for a little more than a qtr…….he FREAKIN needs playing time……(for comparison, the gators left tebow in against western kentucky for nearly the entire game, despite being ahead at one point 42-7, as i pointed out in a previous blog)…….chan is in way over his head……the losses, as we saw with BC, is indicative of COACHING FAILURE/MELTDOWN……with a different coach GT may well have lost, but with coaching prowess of which chan has no idea, GT may have at least challenged BC……look back over the past seasons…….the game against BC is typical of the chan era…….enter the game with great optimism only to have no offense, complete defeat, no adjustments, a deer in the headlights type of loss……i remarked a at least a couple of seasons ago; we will keep reading the same thing in the papers post game analysis and blogs as long as chan remains GT’s coach…….”better overnight”?????? we’re talking years you fool
By reasonablefan
September 18, 2007 8:21 PM | Link to this
Why does Jahi have to have two last names. Can’t he decide.
By Johnson is a Johnson
September 18, 2007 9:16 PM | Link to this
We’ll be fine. Bring back Eddie Macshan and Pepper Rogers. If we put in the wish bone tomorrow, they should have it ready to go by Saturday!
By gm
September 18, 2007 10:21 PM | Link to this
It’s probably Jahi’s mother that was unwilling to give up the maiden name when marrying that resulted in the double name.
Yeah, bring back Pepper Rodgers, whatever…
We were exposed against BC in a big way. Coaches better fix it quick, or this might get ugly…seriously.
By For the love of the game
September 18, 2007 10:30 PM | Link to this
I love the game of football. Everything about. And I love NCAA football. Dwyer is the real deal over 53 college wanted him. GT is blessed to have him. Dwyer is going to give GT everything that he can. You can see that when he plays. Everytime he get’s the ball he tries to make something happen. He run’s as if that’s the last time he’ll every carry a football.He’s a team player. I played football with him for three years. I’m at Auburn now and I’ve never meet a more humble, caring person then Dwyer. Just keep watching you’re going to see the player and the man.
By Cuz
September 18, 2007 11:11 PM | Link to this
If Choice cannot play, do yourselves a favor and send a postcard with I regret to inform you we will not show up, see you next year. Just think of all the money that will be saved.
By Cuz
September 18, 2007 11:16 PM | Link to this
Without Choice, Tech will finish in the cellar once again and be unable to make a bowl game. And they lose to the Dawgs for the seventh time. Someone find a good sports medicine doctor before the whole season winds up in the tank, septic tank that is.
By Hedgeprunner
September 19, 2007 5:47 AM | Link to this
Digger & JAMIEDAWG- the hydrant humpers were really impressive in the games against OSU (whom Troy stomped) SC who beat you like a yard boy and mighty Western Carolina whom Bama beat by 50 points.You better not worry too much about our sorry conference & post over here until you have something to boast about over there in Green county besides your off season arrest record…
By Huh?
September 19, 2007 7:50 AM | Link to this
Hedgeprunner- your intelligence is intimidating. If we are going to talk trash, at least appear to know what you are talking about. Green county? What?
By gte578e
September 19, 2007 8:49 AM | Link to this
James, you are spot on man. Tech fans are so overcritical it’s rediculous. These same people who now say “start the freshmen QB” were talking about how awesome Bennet would be a couple weeks ago. Offense takes time. Our QB will gel with the game plan. His throws will be more crisp and on point.
The key to Bennet’s future success: his decision making. It’s not an accident that he hasn’t thrown an int yet. He’s making the right throws, just not making them quite right. That will come. I predict 260 yards 2 tds and an int against UVA.
Now, onto the real question. It will be start by committee but Dwyer will get the brunt of the second half snaps. His production will be too much to ignore. His protection could be better, but he is definitely the best pure runner of the three (scary, but maybe the four) RBs.
The folks up in Clarke (not Greene) county will hate that I’m saying this, but Dwyer looks like a modern, Herschill Walker. Don’t get me wrong, nobody will ever be as good as the guy who was probably the best collegiate RB in history. He was the same type of player as Calvin Johnson, a true position changer. But, Dwyer has a very rare speed/size/quickness combination that VERY few have. He beats people to the edge. He has run over just about every DB he has come in contact with. And, he has made people miss. He will win ACC freshmen of the year. He has a good shot to win ACC player of the year in his junior year too. I just hope we still have him in his senior year.
By scooter11
September 19, 2007 10:18 AM | Link to this
What is a ‘hedgeprunner’?
By GT80
September 19, 2007 11:07 AM | Link to this
gte578e, thank goodness you posted because I was beginning to think TECH fans were mostly idiots. Surfride, please, there is a reason NOBODY runs the wishbone anymore. You’re an idiot. HiveJockSniffer and Smitty, the “CHAN SUCKS” rhetoric is old. I’ve been a basher of Chan as well, but he seems to have realized that he must be the HC and he’s hired an experienced OC and is letting him run things. The fact that we put up 69 on poor Samford is evidence enough. Old Chan would have started running dive play after dive play as soon as we were up 28-0. The fact that our kickoff coverage has improved dramatically, our offense actually threw to the TE a few times and we threw over the middle a few times shows a change from old Chan.
We lost to BC not because Chan made bad play calls, but because they have a pretty good run defense (remember they are ranked in the top 5 nationally - I don’t care who that’s against it’s still pretty impressive), they have one of the best QB’s in the nation who made some excellent throws, and they found our weakness in Pat Clark and continually went after him. I’m more surprised that our heralded DC didn’t, wouldn’t, couldn’t make adjustments to keep Pat Clark from being exposed. Destin is right, that is our biggest flaw and unless that is corrected any team with decent WR’s and QB will continue to expose it.
Of course, regarding Chan, when one of my friends who is not a TECH fan asked, “so when will you guys turn on Chan?” my reply was, When we lose to UVA next week.
UVA is weak and we should roll them even without TC in the lineup. If we don’t then I’ll be very disappointed and our season will be down the tubes, just like Auburns is now.
Regarding the real question of this blog, as good as Choice is/has been, you can see that Dwyer is special and in time will be one of the best to play for GT. He has the size to get the tough yards and the speed to make big plays every time he touches it. Grant gives us some extra options and he will be on the field alot, but Dwyer will be the main replacement for TC. Sorry Evans, but you are just not of the same caliber and will be relegated to mop up duty.
Have faith Tech Fans, BC is pretty good. Our loss to them will not seem so bad as the year goes on and we still have a chance at a really great year. Of course it will all be for naught if we don’t win the last game of the regular season. I can never give crap to a Dawg fan until that happens.
By JamieDAWG
September 19, 2007 11:18 AM | Link to this
How could you possibly think Dwyer is a modern day Herschel? You need to back away from the crack pipe if you really believe that. You nerds want to be us so bad you try to compare some second rate running back to a Georgia legend. You should stick to Star Trek and Warcraft and leave the football to the big boys. You nerds are so pathetically gay.
By BT
September 19, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this
Jamiedawg-
If Tech fans want to be you. Why is it you that is on their blog?
By gte578e
September 19, 2007 12:38 PM | Link to this
Thanks for the props 80. But, I don’t think that it was Matt Ryan / WRs that beat us. It was their O-line. That was the best combination of good play, good game planning, and legal cheating that I have ever seen. With their 10 called holds against our D-line, and their 5 or 6 that went uncalled, they gave Ryan all day. That was what beat us. We will play a good QB a couple more times this year, but fortunately, not a good OL (the overall weakness of the ACC save GT and BC). Therefore, I too expect us to have a good year. Good comments too on Chan changing a lot over the past couple years.
Now, Jamie, I’m not saying that Dwyer will be as good as Walker, and certainly not yet. What I’m saying is that he has a similar style. I’m saying he can go by you or through you, a style Herschell invented. Now, it’s time for me to talk down to you. Are you 12 or 13? What kind of moron can’t appreciate a comment when he gets it? I put Walker ahead of Williams, Sanders, Dayne and Reggie Bush. Learn to take a compliment for just a second! And by the way, I don’t have time to play video games because I have to do physical labor (after I get done with my 60 hr a week job) rehabbing my rental house and spending time with my wife. What do you do with your spare time, drink Bud Light and circle jerk with your buddies before going “down town”?
By gte578e
September 19, 2007 1:23 PM | Link to this
Scooter, a headgepruner is someone who tears down UGA’s symbol of pride (their hedges). In fact, I still have some from our famous game that Hamilton won at UGA in 98 I believe.
It was funny that UGA complained so much about how rowdy and low class GT students were in tearing up their beloved hedges. Then, when they beat UT for the first time in like 34 years, they tore up their own stadium with 10x (Jamie, thats “10 times) the cost of damage we did to their hedges.
By GT80
September 19, 2007 1:27 PM | Link to this
578e - good point. I walked out of the stadium thinking we just got beat up on the line of scrimmage, both sides of the ball.
I also thought, for the 1st time in about 3 years that we just got beat, not that Chan coached like a ChickenS@#T, coaching not to lose as opposed to coaching to win (like last years ND game) or that save Reggie’s godawful performance we would have won the game (like the last 2 UGA games). Not sure if that is really a good thing.
Of course you should never try to compare anyone with Herschell with UGA fans. Herschell is God and brought them their one lone NC. No one will ever compare if you ask them.
That being said, Dwyer looks like he’s going to be very good. Could the UVA game be his bust out game like the UT game was for Herschell?
By gte578e
September 19, 2007 1:44 PM | Link to this
I don’t know…I remember seeing him score his TD against BC thinking “and so the legend begins.” I mean, he’s already got 5 touchdowns in three games as a non-starter. We play some good defences the rest of the year, but a few really crappy ones too. Those should be good for him. He should score at least two even if a reserve against Army. I’ll be cheering him on in person in Charlottesville. I think he could definitely bowl over at least a couple of their defensive backs if that’s what you’re referring to!
I agree that we got beat. It wasn’t bad play calling or specifically poor play. BC was definitely better that day. That said, I think we will play BC again and it will be significantly more even. That was not our best showing and BC was on fire.
By Digger
September 19, 2007 1:47 PM | Link to this
It is always “could have”, “should have”, “it was close”, or “we almost beat them” with Tech fans.
By gte578e
September 19, 2007 2:11 PM | Link to this
How’s that…we both said they just beat us plain and simple? We didn’t attribute it to anything. We just said they beat us.
I don’t think that it’s indicative of the way GT can play, but I don’t take anything away from them. In fact, read back up a couple spots. I said that was the best job of game planning, good play, and using the rules to your favor I’d ever seen. Is it reading that’s hard for you digger? If so, I’m sure the local elementary school can help with that.
By scooter11
September 19, 2007 3:59 PM | Link to this
Well, if that’s what a ‘hedgeprunner’ is, at least you spell it correctly. Baffled by the extra ‘n’.
By HiveJockSniffer
September 19, 2007 4:06 PM | Link to this
Chan has not changed. His mark is all over this “new” offense. As I said before, Bond is just the latest puppet. Chan will continue to pound his dumbfounded head against the wall and will never beat UGA. He wouldn’t know clever if it stared directly into his “dear in headlight” eyes.
By JamieDAWG
September 19, 2007 4:21 PM | Link to this
Chan is the worst coach of all time. His choice of offensive coordinators is almost as funny as Tech’s 20K seat stadium. Georgia Tech = poster child of irrelevance.
By JamieDAWG
September 19, 2007 4:23 PM | Link to this
Tickle piles, flaggots, and rat caps oh my!
By I love football
September 19, 2007 4:41 PM | Link to this
I love football especially NCCA. Dwyer is the real deal. I played high school football with him for three years. I’m at Auburn now. He’s a team player and loves the game. He plays as if that the last time he’ll ever carry a football. He plays to win. You’re never find a nicer guy who’s humble, and will give you the shirt off his back. Dwyer had 53 offer to play in where in the country. GT is blessed to have him. Give him time, remember you heard it here first. DWYER IS THE REAL DEAL!!!
By I love football
September 19, 2007 6:10 PM | Link to this
Choice will be back stronger and better. I know he’s doing everything that his trainner are tell him and more. He’s a leader and a warrior. It’s only been 3 games. With several more to come. GT has a great team, improvement with the offense line have them on the field more than defense line. Put M.Buttler at corner he got great vision and speed. Utilize the freshmen - mix them in. We need to run the ball more and just let Dwyer go. He should be getting 15 reps are more. Choice is the leader, but the leader needs some help he can’t do by himself the BC game prove that. Bring some excitement on the field GT when you come out on the field and leave everything that you have in you (sweat,blood ect.) an leave it on the field. GT is a great team even without C.Johnson.
By What the ?
September 19, 2007 6:36 PM | Link to this
JamieDawg,
You must have missed my earlier story so here it is again for you.
As I was driving home Sunday, I looked in my mirror to see a silver car with a G tag on the front. As they passed me (speeding of course), they must have noticed the Yellow Jackets magnet and GT sticker on the rear of my van. When they pulled along side, they proceeded to hoot and holler and pump their fists in the air like they had something to do with Tech’s loss or even yet Georgia’s win. Of course they got no response from anyone in my vehicle.
Their car also had a G sticker on the rear window and (here is the best part) one of those gay RAINBOW stickers on the rear deck lid to go along with their BUTTS county tag. How appropriate!
Proof that you and your “hey fella” UGA fans are both Obnoxious AND Gay.
And you wonder why you are hated……
By 247 sports
September 20, 2007 5:19 PM | Link to this
To the guy who said get your facts straight about UGA wanting Dwyer. Oh yeah they recruited Dwyer real hard. Tons of mail coming to his school,visiting his parents home. Dwyer just was ment to be a Yellow Jacket, did I mention Dwyers a pretty good student. Just dream for a second if UGA had Dwyer/King. Oh, life is just a dream