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By Go Jackets

November 21, 2005 05:23 PM | Link to this

Yes, this was a great win for the program. I am one of those ‘Can Chans’ and before the game, I just knew that Chan was going to go out there and prove us all wrong. This is the happiest I’ve been when I’m wrong. Now We have to re-focus and give a CONSISTENT effort this Saturday! Go Jackets and TO HELL WITH GEORGIA!

By James

November 21, 2005 05:37 PM | Link to this

If there was an Academy Award for football, Tech would win it after that win. After a rollercoaster season, I’ve been told time and time again “there’s no more Georgia Tech”. Well, if you think there’s no more Georgia Tech, the Tech football players just proved you wrong. And Chan proved that his extension WAS for a good purpose. We were down this season, but we weren’t out. And you can say the Jackets didn’t play a perfect game, but you can’t just go to Miami unranked, beat the #3 team in the nation, dish out probably the biggest upset of any team this season (ties with TCU at Oklahoma) and say that you didn’t play a great game. They didn’t play to perfection, but they damn sure played great.

Get ready, Dawgies, y’all are playin’ a tough team this year. GO JACKETS!!!

By wes

November 21, 2005 05:51 PM | Link to this

Yeah, our guys tried to give it away. But, you’ve got to admit…playing in the Orange Bowl…not to many have walked out of there unscathed.

ENOUGH about Miami. Let’s go get those wicked beasts from the East!!!!

THWG!!!!

By Steve

November 21, 2005 07:27 PM | Link to this

Whether we win or lose against the Bulldogs, I am so happy to be a Georgia Tech fan and feel so blessed that Chan Gailey is our coach. The truth is that it really is great to be a Yellow Jacket! Our program is on the way up, and Chan Gailey is the only man I’d want at the helm. God really has a reason for him to be at Tech.

By Palmetto State Dawg

November 21, 2005 09:32 PM | Link to this

I don’t care who you beat on Saturday night. You’re still the Nerds & we’re still the Dawgs……9 times out of 10 that means a win for the Dawgs!

By jacket in sc

November 21, 2005 10:03 PM | Link to this

This is the first time I have felt we were going to beat UGAg going into the game for several years. I really do believe we have the better team this year. I just don’t look forward to seeing all of that red and black in our stadium.

By Master Baiter

November 22, 2005 08:54 AM | Link to this

Wel,wel,wel, I see that Hugh has all the class that I have come to expect from frustrated 15 year olds. He can’t post anything without resorting to profanity. I suppose he learned that fine language in calculus class. You Nerds need to come off the hip and put up some money and hire a couple of English professors from UGA, it would expand your vocabulary and provide some useful words to use in a discussion with someone with whom you disagree. Palmetto State Dawg merely pointed out a fact that has been very evident for the last 40 years, Nerds seldom beat Dawgs. I’ll expect some Nerds and Nerdettes to point out that EVERY football player at the Institute is taking physics, atomic engineering, and calculus while the UGA players are weaving baskets and finger painting; even though the article about Joe Hamilton pointed out that you can play football at the Institute for five years and never have a clue as to where the calculus classroom is located. Maybe Joe was so busy in his classes on sub atomic particles that he just overlooked calculus. Either way, Saturday night in Grant’s Tomb, see you there.

By Tech fan

November 22, 2005 09:54 AM | Link to this

Master Baiter, you calling some one out on class, did you look at your name. Go have sex with your sister you inbred red neck….oh and leave your trailor in east bumblef*ck before you come to our city to get your a* beat….but you would probably like that.

By MUTT H8R

November 22, 2005 09:55 AM | Link to this

Georgia fans = classless trash

Pick any fanbase of any school they play and you will hear the same thing. They take pride in their classlessness, the stupid clods.

UGA will get their a** handed to them this Saturday by Tech, and all will be as it should be again.

GIVE ‘EM HELL TECH TO HELL WITH GEORGIA!!!!

By mikey

November 22, 2005 10:15 AM | Link to this

Oooh, such animosity from weak minded Tech fan. Obviously you are new to this blogging thing, my blog name was given to me by another vocabulary challenged Institute nerd. I must say that I was overwhelmed but the sheer amount of top drawer class shown by Tech fan. He couldn’t put together a coherent thought so he fell back on his limited number of curse words. Spelling obviously isn’t one of his strong points either, trailor(?) I suppose the little nerd was trying to spell trailer. I did move out of my trailer a couple of weeks ago, I got a great deal on a remodeled chicken house after the owner evicted some nerds for scrawling calculus graffiti on the walls.

By Al Davis

November 22, 2005 10:33 AM | Link to this

MUTT H8R you are the kind of fan that has caused Tech to lose whatever equity it ever had so far as class. Go back to disguising yourself as an empty seat.

By Transplant

November 22, 2005 10:44 AM | Link to this

I am not from around here. I am amazed at the GT fanbase. I have never seen a group of fans on and off the bandwagon quite like you guys. I have never seen so many classless people attack others over issues of class. I have never seen such unwarranted arrogance. When Tech wins your heads swell to the size of the Goodyear Blimp. And most of you are the very ones that after a loss are firing the coach, threatening to withdraw support, etc. So far as fans go. UGA has you hands down. They support their team no matter what. Furthermore, if your history follows its usual pattern, you are going to get a mudhole stomped in you Saturday night.

By LOL

November 22, 2005 10:47 AM | Link to this

Hey, UGA fans! How’d ya like beatin’ Kentucky? In the mean time, we were dealin’ with No. 3 Miami. And how was that loss to Auburn? I can tell ya, beatin’ them by 2 scores was pretty fun. You can make fun of our 7-3 record, when yours is 8-2 (soon to be 8-3….). Not much better. I’m gonna laugh at y’all when we win.

By Al Davis

November 22, 2005 11:09 AM | Link to this

Georgia has D.J. Shockley. Tech has Reggie Ball. Need I say more?

By Ala. Jim

November 22, 2005 11:10 AM | Link to this

Transplant, you should read some of the UGA blogs. After the Fla. game they wanted to get rid of Coach Richt who is probably the best coach in the country!

By Ala. Jim

November 22, 2005 11:22 AM | Link to this

As a matter of fact you don’t post like a Transplant. You were probably born and raised in Clarke County

By Transplant

November 22, 2005 11:25 AM | Link to this

Yes, they have em too. But they still fill the stadium. That is the biggest difference. Tech fans only go when they are winning.

By Ala. Jim

November 22, 2005 11:29 AM | Link to this

As a matter of fact you don’t sound like a Transplant. You were probably born and raised in Clarke County

By Master Baiter

November 22, 2005 12:34 PM | Link to this

Weak minded “Tech fan” makes all my points for me. He can’t think of anything intelligent to post so he resorts to profanity and childish personal insults. What’s the matter “Tech fan” don’t you know how to put together a sentence without vulgarity? “Tech fan” is a prime example of why Institute nerds and their handfull of fans(?) are considered arrogant and elitist. I’m quite sure he would cry like a rat eating onions if anyone made nasty comments about him and then launch into a “R” rated tirade of four letter words. One of the real Institute fans needs to buy the poor unfortunate a dictionary and a thesaurus but, he wouldn’t have time to read them because he is too busy with his Dungeons and Dragons tournament.

By Frank McLean

November 22, 2005 12:36 PM | Link to this

Let’s celebrate our little win!

How does it feel to know that you cheated in football for 6 years? All these Techies talking about what a great win Miami was after having 6 years of play VACATED by the NCAA is rather ironic, wouldn’t you say? Thursday the NCAA announces the magnitude of Techs years of cheating and by Sunday you guys are yucking it up over a little ACC win feeling completely exonerated.

Where is the concern for morality and fair play? “Er Ah, every college has don it” does not cut it anymore.

Everyone of you Techies should be totally ashamed of your school and your cheating football program. One little win does not eliminate the years of deception, lying and cheating. What about all the honest football teams you cheaters played during those 6 years? You should hang your head in shame and ask them for forgiveness, not revel in some pseudo glory over 1 measly game.

You guy’s are just a joke in the college sports world. No amount of wins will forgive what you have done. And by the way, Charlie Chan and Brainy allowed this to happen. They need to be fired!

By JimmyTheGreek

November 22, 2005 12:43 PM | Link to this

Beating Miami was the WORST thing that could happen to the bandwagon nation. The last time the bandwagoneers got this excited before the UGA game they got beat 51-7. UGA wins this one big.

By JP

November 22, 2005 12:49 PM | Link to this

Alright tech fans, don’t get ahead of yourself. The dawgs are your big brothers, and they will always be. So this weekend except you a$$ beating in stride like you always do. I from atlanta and I like tech and uga the same, but tech will never be georgia and this weekend they will get their a$$ handed to them.

By Mr. Breeze

November 22, 2005 12:51 PM | Link to this

OK — no more insults or profanity. Just football. GT receivers (ie, CJ, Bilbo, etc) will burn UGA badly and big-time. Ball has just as much mobility (see Saturday in Miami)and accuracy as DJ. GT running game is way superior. GT defense will STUFF whatever running game UGA wants to play. GT special teams are suspect, but what else does UGA have? GT comes out ahead in every aspect, including strength of schedule and the teams they’ve beaten. The only way GT will lose is with bad play calling or bad officiating. Anybody care to counter that without insults or profanity? Probably not….

By Mr Breeze

November 22, 2005 01:00 PM | Link to this

Hey, Frank McLean, the UGA program is so pitifully corrupt that we should not even comment. From Jan Kemp in the past to Herrick in the present, you should NEVER throw stones, Big Shot. I would say, “See you, Saturday”, but I’m sure you aren’t a fan enough to even show up.

By Mongo

November 22, 2005 01:00 PM | Link to this

To Transplant:

Yes, you are correct! You are not from around here but from Athens. I wouldn’t claim it either.. Also, Tech fans are smart enough to go to a movie, or theater, concert and enjoy a variety of entertainment..Mutts have only two things in life: Dawgs football (sure as hell do not support any other sport) and brown liquor to steady those nerves around the Gators and Nerds!!

By Al Davis

November 22, 2005 01:01 PM | Link to this

Only a moron would compare Reggie Ball to D.J. Shockley. Mr Breeze, are you already creating your excuse for the coming smackdown?

By GTVegas

November 22, 2005 01:01 PM | Link to this

Frank McLean - Get some of your facts straight before throwing stones in glass houses. Even though some of the “cheating” was at the beginning of Gailey’s tenure, he had nothing whatsoever to do with it. Even the NCAA said that the players played without the violations being intentional. The responsibility for this lies squarely on Braine’s and Clough’s shoulders. That is why the violations went across more than football.

If you want to start comparing discrepencies, please do not forget Jan Kemp or the rigorous basketball exams. Which violations are really worse, being ignorant or knowingly in violation? There are no excuses for either.

You talk of “honesty”. I do not think, nor does the NCAA, that there was any lack of honesty with these violations, just ignorance and “lack of control”. I do not think you can say the same about Jan Kemp or “how many points do you get for shooting a three pointer”. And before you go claiming it was in the past, so were these violations which involve none of the current athletes.

None of that makes it right, but it sure doesn’t justify you trying to be without reproach as a Bulldawg.

As far as firing the responsible parties, Braine is rumored to be retiring (he needs to go), Gailey had no part in it according to the NCAA (he’s not my favorite guy either, but he has five more years to turn me around) and the person really responsible was a tenured professor that Clough forced on Braine (as I have read) and has returned to academia.

Yes, this win is to be celebrated as the team on the field Saturday had nothing at all to do with anything you are trying to dullen it with. They should be proud of that win and move on. There is another game to be played this weekend which my wife (a UGA grad) is very worried about, as am I. I just hope it is a good game and that the right GT team/coach shows up.

GO JACKETS !!!!!

By OddsMaker

November 22, 2005 01:03 PM | Link to this

I may be off by one or two teams and someone is welcome to check, but I think every QB we have faced this year is rated higher than Reggie Ball. If you nerds are depending on Reggie to win it for you you’re insane.

By TheTruth

November 22, 2005 01:08 PM | Link to this

Mongo,I don’t think anyone has to steady any kind of nerves when it comes to techmites. Your win/lose percentage against everyone is pretty pitiful. But we understand. By Tech standards .500 is really good. Just ask Dave Braine.

By Mr Breeze

November 22, 2005 01:12 PM | Link to this

Well, Al Davis, considering that DJ is still in diapers compared to Reggie, that the GT D-line will have DJ looking like a scared deer in 18-wheeler headlights, and that he hopefully remembers the beating that he took last year, yes, I guess I am a moron. See you Saturday, if you show up.

By Mr Breeze

November 22, 2005 01:17 PM | Link to this

Uhh, Odds Maker, who cares what the QBs you have already played are rated. We are talking about this week. We don’t depend on only Reggie to win the game — there are 20+ other kids who will get the job done. See you Saturday, if you show up.

By Al Davis

November 22, 2005 01:19 PM | Link to this

Your D line will have a hard time scaring anyone from flat on their backs. And I really hope that your seasoned QB plays his usual game. You know. Chuck and duck. If he just throws it in someones general direction he will get picked a few times. Anyway. Most sane people take D.J. diapers and all. “Catfish” Ball’s biggest talent is running his big mouth. His stats are pitiful.

By Frank McLean

November 22, 2005 01:21 PM | Link to this

GTVegas, Very good meaningful response. I won’t try and convince you how the Jan Kemp and the basketball exam were just stupid and really don’t hold a candle to manipulating majors and Curriculum so unqualified dummies can play football. I know UGA did that many years ago but the NCAA has been extremely vigilant about this over the last decade.

Vegas, enjoy your little win now for Saturday the Bees will go to the Dwags.

By Mr Breeze

November 22, 2005 01:27 PM | Link to this

Flat on their backs? I think not. Just ask Miami. And if our seasoned QB plays like he did during our 7 wins, we’ll be just fine, thank you. Stats don’t win games — performance does. See you on Saturday. Oh, and just like I thought, no comment without insults — at least you left out the profanity…

By Al Davis

November 22, 2005 01:30 PM | Link to this

How about if we just ask those 2 Virginia teams?

By LJ

November 22, 2005 01:36 PM | Link to this

Frank McLean, in your last post you wrote that Tech changed the curriculum “so unqualified dummies can play football”. How is having the following question on a final exam “how many points do you get for a 3 point shot” not change the UGA curriculum so unqualified dummies can play basketball??

By TheTruth

November 22, 2005 01:38 PM | Link to this

Yeah the mighty Tech D. Tech loses 3 games by a total of 57 points and they buzz about a D. Only in the mind of the urine yellow nation does that measure up. But I guess they are just following their AD’s lead.

By Mr Breeze

November 22, 2005 01:44 PM | Link to this

Hey, TheTruth, again with the insults. UGA would not stay on the field with VT, either. Or Miami or Auburn (oh, gee, you didn’t). See you Saturday, if you show up.

By TheTruth

November 22, 2005 01:53 PM | Link to this

Mr Breeze. When was the last time UGA got beat by 44 points?

By TheTruth

November 22, 2005 01:54 PM | Link to this

Congratulations on your showing at UVA. Stayed right on the field with em.

By Al Davis

November 22, 2005 01:57 PM | Link to this

Miami gets beat by FSU who got beat by UVA and Clemson. Hmmm. Maybe Miami was not that good.

By Mr Breeze

November 22, 2005 01:59 PM | Link to this

Hey, we got beat then — but, now we’ll see YOU-GA on Saturday.

By OddsMaker

November 22, 2005 02:00 PM | Link to this

Enjoy your ride on the bandwagon Mr Breeze. You’ll jump off about midnight Saturday.

By Frank McLean

November 22, 2005 02:01 PM | Link to this

LJ, Are you for real? There is a big difference in manipulating an entire college curriculum, making exceptions for a certain class of people for their whole 4 years as opposed to a stupid jock coach making up a easy test.

Surely LJ, even a Techie can understand the difference between a lousy coach prof making a test easy as opposed to a school making up a 4 year major so dummies can play football. concept. Maybe not!

By Mr Breeze

November 22, 2005 02:04 PM | Link to this

Hey, Al, maybe they weren’t that good. But they WERE rated #3 in the nation with the #1 defense. And let’s see UGA play a team of that caliber and see how they do. You play with the schedule they give you.

By TheTruth

November 22, 2005 02:07 PM | Link to this

Frank, you may be giving them too much credit with the understanding thing.

By Al Davis

November 22, 2005 02:12 PM | Link to this

It was a good win for Tech Mr Breeze. No doubt about it.

By Mr Breeze

November 22, 2005 02:13 PM | Link to this

OddsMaker, it’s all I can do to resist insults, but that’s just me. I am a GT Letterman from the late 70’s and the bandwagon is not a vehicle that I ride. Only the Ramblin’ Reck. See you Saturday, if you decide to show up.

By Mr Breeze

November 22, 2005 02:19 PM | Link to this

Thanks, Al. See you Saturday and good luck (not really)…

By Al Davis

November 22, 2005 02:23 PM | Link to this

You too Breeze. As we all know we can throw out the rest of the season on game day. And this one just might be one of those years where anything can happen.

By GTVegas

November 22, 2005 02:53 PM | Link to this

It is just showing how much Frank really understands/understood the issue. There was no change in curriculum and if he really wants to delve into the “class of people” thing and trying to make “allowances”, all he needs to do is look at some of the comments made in the Jan Kemp fiasco by UGA professors/administrators. There were such comments as “we are only trying to get some of these guys to read and write so that they aren’t future “UGA” garbagemen.” Look it up, that was from a UGA professor about the kind of athletes he was getting in his classes. Now, all of that has changed (wink, wink), well most of it anyway.

You are just showing that you really haven’t read any meaningful facts about what the real problem was. It has to do more with staying on track to graduation and taking electives that did not count towards a degree since all of their free electives had been taken if I understand correctly. The “Braine” children that were resonsible lost track of what the new rules meant and “lost control”, hence the NCAA’s wording of “unintentional” violations and “lack of Institutional control”.

I am sure we don’t need to (and most UGA alumns don’t want to) probe this issue much further. No program looks that good when put under the spotlight between these two schools on this specific issue. Personally, I think if the Jan Kemp debacle had come before today’s NCAA Infractions Committee, the outcome would probably have been very different.

Now for the game at hand since that is the present/future and the past has no meaningful bearing on this coming Saturday. If probation was any type of motivational factor for the team this past Saturday, then we should continue to remind them about it all week. They played great, including Ball, and Gailey had a fine coaching result. Here’s to consistency which is the one thing Tech has not got in thier favor.

If there is one thing about today’s college football, it’s that on any given day, just about any team has a chance to beat the other. Ask the USC coaches and players if they want to see Fresno State again.

TheTruth - Why not tell the truth instead of manipulating the numbers. Take away the one game to VT and I think you will find that the margin of loss for the other two losses is very similar to another school’s margin of loss in their two games. Face it, THE TRUTH is that the Tech D had a great game against Miami and if (and that a big “if”) they have the same type of game against UGA, I like our chances. Again, the question is, which GT team, and Reggie, and Chan will show up?

By Reply to TheTruth

November 22, 2005 03:02 PM | Link to this

TheTruth, one major error on your comment about our D. VT did not score all those points on our D. They only managed 21 points on our D. Two others were Reggie’s touchdown passes (do those count as both INT’s and TD’s?) and two others were on special teams. They got 97 yards rushing and we did get burned with 223 passing. Still a very good D. As long as Ball only makes TD passes to the guys in the gold helmets, we’ll be fine. And since he hasn’t caught any strange diseases this week, I’m not worried! Good luck, but you guys are going down THWG

By OddsMaker

November 22, 2005 03:31 PM | Link to this

GTVegas, no matter how you spin it, a school that has been so sanctimonious about academics, that whined incessantly about academics as an excuse for losing, got nailed with 52 counts of academic fraud and lack of institutional control. And all anyone ever heard was calculus, calculus, calculus. Turns out that athletes can hang around the flats for 5 years and never even see a calculus book. Not to mention that they were taking courses that didn’t even count toward graduation. And it went on for 7 years. Puhleeze! It was a scheme to keep athletes eligible and you got caught. There is no way to spin this one GTVegas.

By DrT.

November 22, 2005 03:46 PM | Link to this

Before the 1st quarter is over Reggie’s mouth will have overridden his capability to think and his head will be so far up his 4th point of contact that his arm and eyes will not be able to distinguish the difference between the guys in the white shirts and the guys in the yellow shirts. And lord help us if he has to count to 4.

By Mr Breeze

November 22, 2005 03:59 PM | Link to this

OK, guys, again, get back to football and the game at hand. Stop with the academic rhetoric — we can deal with that in the off-season. And, DrT, your blog was so off-base, it’s not even worth a comment. All Reggie has to do is hand off to Choice and / or PJ (he’ll be fine) or throw down to Bilbo or CJ or run it himself. He will do just fine, thank you. See you on Saturday, if you decide to show up.

By DrT.

November 22, 2005 04:07 PM | Link to this

Are you one of those techmites that goes to the game disguised as an empty seat Mr Breeze? A Tech fan talking about attendance is worse than Rueben giving a just say no to drugs lecture.

By GTVegas

November 22, 2005 04:09 PM | Link to this

OddsMaker (Funny, I’m the one in Vegas…:-)) I never even attempted to say it was right. My point is that UGA supporters have no ground to stand on and should not be harping on it as a factor having anything at all to do with this weekend’s game except as a point of motivation for Tech players.

I also believe that your comments are wrong in today’s environment. I do not think that anything remotely similar to what went on is going on now or since they discovered their error and self-disclosed.

The fact of the matter is that you can not graduate without taking Calculus and sooner or later they will run out of electives to take towards their degree which is exactly what the rule is meant to do. There just aren’t that many classes at Tech to take as electives when compared to UGA or other more well-rounded colleges. The lack of diversity in degrees is something that limits Tech sometimes, but is in no way an excuse for poor performance or an elastic approach to academics.

You may call it a scheme if you like, but the NCAA (once again) found that it was not intentional. Why self-disclose if you are doing it intentionally? I would like for you to publicly come out and accuse those that willingly and proactively perpetuated this “scheme” and see how fast you get slapped with libel and slander. The penalties from the NCAA would have been greater if it was found that they acted with intent ti defraud, just ask SMU or Auburn.

This also has nothing to do with those athletes that will be on the field on Saturday.

Again, I am not trying to spin anything. I have never said it was right nor have I said that I am not embarrassed by what has happenned.

You may want to reread the comments in the context in which they were written.

By the way, what is the line on the game?

Go Jackets !!!!

By WallyButts

November 22, 2005 04:13 PM | Link to this

Damn GTVegas, I try and say nice things to my nerd blogger and what does he do. He slams me when I turn my back.

I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and say you must of not read my friend T’Ville post to you lovely pencil heads. So here it is again for your reading pleasure Vegas.

T’Ville Dawg Let’s look at a couple of the highlights, shall we? I do all the work here, so you, loyal readers, can reap the benefits. The link is below, if you want to savor the flavor of the whole thing yourself. INDIANAPOLIS —- The NCAA Division I Committee on Infractions has placed the Georgia Institute of Technology on two years probation and vacated records in several sports after the school improperly certified academically ineligible student-athletes to compete.

Ouch, baby. Very ouch. Widespread use of academically ineligible athletes at GTU. This wouldn’t overlap with their brief moments of pigskin glory in the late 90s, would it?

The violations and penalties involve the sports of football, men’s and women’s track and field and women’s swimming between the 1998-99 and 2004-05 academic years.

Hmmmm. Sure seems to overlap. I see “football� and “betweeen 1998-99� and “2004-05� right there. Quelle horreur, nerds. You’ve sucked since 2001. You can’t even CHEAT consistenly and win. No wonder Braine conceded that GTU isnt a 9 or 10 win a year school. He knew what was coming and just admitted the obvious. If you can’t win when you cheat, how can you win if you dont cheat? Maybe you nerds should have hired Bobby Lowder as a consultant.

The case involves 17 student-athletes over a six-year period being certified as making satisfactory progress toward their degrees, even though they didn’t meet the standards contained in NCAA bylaws.

Wow. 17 athletes. Want to bet they werent all swimmers?

All 17 student-athletes - 11 of whom were on the football team — were certified and received signatures from the four campus officials. However, a large number of non-degree-applicable courses were included.

Hmmm. 11 football players? I did NOT see that one coming at ALL. Surely this was just a little paperwork glitch, right? A, you should excuse the expression, TECHnicality, not anything major? I mean, you allllllllllll tell us constantly how upright you are, right?

In one case, 17 of a student-athlete’s 24 hours did not count toward a degree. Another used 12 non-degree-applicable courses in two consecutive years. There were also several examples of nine or 10 non-degree courses being used in a single year.

In addition, six student-athletes were allowed to count courses for which they received grades of D, even though their majors required a C to count toward graduation.

Wow. Yet, UGA is the home of academic fraud because Jim Harrick, Jr. gave 3 basketball players an A in a PE course on basketball that NONE of them needed to remain eligible (and for which he was fired and UGA drastically penalized itself). Who’s the fraud now, pencil necks? But, surely these GTU athletes weren’t stars or anything….were they?

“Many of these student-athletes were prominent members of the team, including multiple-year starters who had received conference and national recognition for their athletic performances,� Marsh said.

The committee pointed out that allowing these student-athletes to compete without holding them to the same academic standards as their opponents gave Georgia Tech a substantial competitive advantage.

Hmmmm. “A substantial competitive advantage.� For “prominent members of the team.� Because they weren’t being held to “the same academic standards as their opponents.� Why…that sounds suspiciously like cheating to me, doesn’t it? All this time, GTU people have sneered at UGA because of GTU’s higher academic standards…and it was just a big fat lie. For shame, nerds.

But surely, once someone over there realized there was a problem, GTU’s ever-so-ethical adminstration and staff cleaned it up and turned themselves in, right? I mean, if it was just a simple bookkeeping error, that’s what an honest school would do, right? Turn itself in, fix the problem, take responsibility? Ummmmm. Not in this case, it seems.

The report also noted that the institution investigated the matter in 2003, but failed to uncover the full scope of the problem. It was only after an investigation by the NCAA enforcement staff that the full details of the case came to light.

Now, it’s true that GTU offered some self-imposed penalties, about all of which were accepted by the NCAA. But, due to the seriousness and the scope of the lying and cheating, the NCAA added a few more to help serve the cause of justice. Here’s the one that caught my eye…

The institution shall vacate the performance of its football team for all contests in which the 11 ineligible student-athletes competed.

Does that mean what I think it means? Is the 3 game anomalous GTU win streak of 98-00 now a 3 game losing streak within the 7 game losing streak before, and the (so far) 4 game losing streak which followed? Is UGA now going for FIFTEEN IN A ROW, BABY?!?!?!?!?!

By Mr Breeze

November 22, 2005 04:18 PM | Link to this

Sorry, Dr.T — I am a GT Letterman who has been at (nearly) every home gane since 1976. No empty seat, no riding the bandwagon, only the Ramblin’ Reck. Also, no insults to you, despite your negative comments. I only care about the game on Saturday — see you there, if you decide to show up, Big Guy…

By Mr Breeze

November 22, 2005 04:21 PM | Link to this

BTW, nobody reads those 20 paragraph blogs — KEEP IT SHORT!!

By WallyButts

November 22, 2005 04:22 PM | Link to this

GTVegas, I really did want to move on but I can’t sit here and have you make Chicken salad out of Chicken Sh*t. If you know how to read the NCAA article you will see there was “a change in curriculum.” Or should I say , a manipulation of the curriculum? Either way, Tech CHEATED to allow unqualified people into your sports program.

Vegas, I am so sorry, but it is what it is. AWFUL! Cheating=BAD Playing by NCAA Rules=Good

By OddsMaker

November 22, 2005 04:23 PM | Link to this

Thanks GTVegas. I guess Tech’s low football graduation rate backs up your argument that they have to take calculus to graduate.

By DrT.

November 22, 2005 04:27 PM | Link to this

My apologies to you Mr Breeze. If you have attended all of those games you are a true fan.

By GTVegas

November 22, 2005 04:37 PM | Link to this

The other factoid that he has failed to understand in his long diatribe is that, yes, GT can no longer count those wins, BUT UGA must still count them as LOSSES - works for me. Vacating those games does not have the ripple effect . Vacating does not mean forfeiting. If the NCAA had thought it was that bad, it would have made Tech forfeit those games and forego future bowl games and TV games, etc.

And, yes, most Tech Alums will hope to forget all about this in a few years just as most UGA Alums with they could forget Jan Kemp. As far as the Basketball/PE thing goes, I think it is just a symptom of a larger disease.

Just one thing I have noticed, the UGA supporters certainly throw more of the name calling and insults around than the Tech Alum, for a generalization. Let’s keep it that way.

By Mr Breeze

November 22, 2005 04:50 PM | Link to this

No apology necessary, DrT. Good luck, Saturday (but, not really)….

By GTVegas

November 22, 2005 04:53 PM | Link to this

Good Luck to both teams and may the game be played injury free and with no ref mistakes. May the best non-red uniformed team win. :-)

Anyone know the line on the game yet?

By GTVegas

November 22, 2005 05:02 PM | Link to this

Hey - Has anyone seen the latest headline?

“World’s Ugliest Dog Dies”

I take it as an omen.

By Mr Breeze

November 22, 2005 05:11 PM | Link to this

GTVegas — LOL !!!!

By Curtis The GT ramblin wreck

November 22, 2005 05:57 PM | Link to this

Man I am so tired of UGA fans always thinking we are a pushover even though we just beat a team that’s way better than the stupid dogs from the east. I’m only in High School, and I’m insulted by all the UGA fans every day for being a GT fans. A real UGA fan respected what we did this weekend and thinks it will be a good game. That’s a real fan. If you at least respect each other, than you are a good fan. All you people who call yourselves a bulldog…BITE ME!!!! GT will get revenge from last year’s track of downs. Yes, Reggie Ball can beat these idiot bulldogs. We have homefield and th better team, and you people of Athens, Greece still think you will own us. Sorry….not this year bulldogs. To hell with Georgia! Go give Georgia a game!!!!!

By THE battle of QB's

November 22, 2005 07:48 PM | Link to this

help me here DrT…..sort of a sing along…

Reggie, Reggie, he’s our man, if he can’t do it, Chan can!

By Jacky

November 22, 2005 08:46 PM | Link to this

Why Curtis, you little ramblin wreck you. High school children should learn to use better language, profanity and vulgarity won’t get you very far in the real world. Most companies won’t tolerate insults and profanity in the work place. You are allowed to be a Buzzy Bee fan if you want but, remember you will always be a scorned minority in the state of Georgia. Most people love dogs and want them around, most people want to kill bugs. Now go on back and do your homework with a real concentration on geography. Athens, Greece is about 5,000 miles from Atlanta, so don’t look for those folks to show up on Saturday.