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DEL.ICIO.USSome fans dishonor Dooley with honor
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Mark Bradley
Even when Georgia tries to do right by Vince Dooley, someone will insist it’s wrong. It has been this way since 2003, when Michael Adams erred in forcing Dooley out, and it is, regrettably, that way still.
Dooley’s many friends and admirers did him a disservice in that supercharged summer of ‘03, when they overplayed their hand to the extent that the man himself had to ask them to stand down. (It was at the Bulldog Club of Atlanta’s meeting that year that Mark Richt, who had just orchestrated Georgia’s first SEC football championship in two decades, wasn’t given the privilege of speaking last. That went to Dooley, lending the night the feel of a political rally.)
By now, we know where the Dooley zealots stand: They love him and hate Adams. They’re entitled to those feelings, but they help nothing by seeking to create a “cause” where none exists. The school has moved to build a garden — Dooley’s a big gardener, as we know — featuring a massive statue of the coach, and also to rename the part of campus where most of Georgia’s sports facilities are housed the Vince Dooley Athletic Complex. A nice gesture, right?
Not enough, two of Dooley’s former players told the AJC’s Chip Towers. Too little too late, said Buck Belue, and in the wrong place to boot. And what, Jeff Harper wanted to know, about renaming the stadium for Dooley?
I haven’t been the biggest fan of Adams, but at such moments I have some sympathy for the president (who can be both ham-handed and imperious). His fight with Dooley damaged him beyond repair — he was booed heavily during halftime at the Sugar Bowl — and nothing he does now will ever placate the Vinceniks.
By reacting so adversely to what should be a warm fuzzy moment, Dooley’s advocates have all but guaranteed that there’ll be no edifice-renaming — whether it’s Sanford-Dooley Stadium or Dooley Field at Sanford Stadium — until Adams is gone. The president, see, retains a considerable amount of pride.
I’m on record as saying the big hedge-holder should eventually become Sanford-Dooley Stadium, but I cringe every time his forces conjure up some fit of pique. Dooley was a great coach and a splendid AD, and he remains a prince of a guy. That said, a man of such grace would be the first to remind folks that it’s unseemly to look askance at any honor.
The best course is always to smile and say thanks, which is exactly what Vince Dooley did. “For me personally,” he told Towers, “I’m just appreciative and really humbled by the whole thing.”
Be magnanimous in any victory, however small, and maybe the next president will see fit to do something bigger.
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By Roswell Ed
February 14, 2008 9:48 AM | Link to this
What about
The Ray Goff Urinals
at
The Jim Donnan Bathrooms?
You could name the feminine product dispensers after
Jim Herrick Jr!!
By reality check
February 14, 2008 9:56 AM | Link to this
In my opinion we need to move past the Adams/Dooley conflict. I don’t like the way Adams handles things, but the Board of Regents backed him and nothing is going to change that.
Dooley fans, and I am one of them, should act with dignity and let it go. To do otherwise brings us down to Adams’ level, or lower.
Dooley will always be well remembered. Adams will not.
By G'Vegas Dawg
February 14, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this
Second!!
By steve
February 14, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this
He will get his just due in time.Until then let us cherish the honor he has received.
By G'Vegas Dawg
February 14, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this
Is this article “to be continued”? Where does it say how he is dishonored? Another wonderful piece of sh…I mean work by the Atlanta Urinal and Constipation.
By GT
February 14, 2008 10:06 AM | Link to this
Let’s take a little trip around college football and see if we can measure how other colleges have honored their coaches. You make a man a general even in a banana republic if he is the top banana and Dooley was the top banana in the Bulldog nation which is actually bigger economic wise than most third world counties. The problem Adams is having is there might not be a Georgia as we know it today if Vince Dooley and his administration had not existed. You don’t make him a lieutenant and tell him to live with it. The state of Georgia has two great sporting events, Georgia football and the Masters in Augusta. Could you imagine treating Bobby Jones the father of the event, a Tech man I might add, in this manner? As a Tech guy I didn’t enjoy Dooley as much as the boys in Athens but can tell you a Georgia man, Billy Payne, is the keeper of Bobby Jones’ legacy and doing a fine job, and even I can appreciate what Vince Dooley has done for this state. What a dull place this would have been without him.
By reserviorDAWG
February 14, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this
I like the simplicity of Sanford Stadium. I have a lot of respect for Dooley, but could care less if his name is added to the stadium.
By Clay
February 14, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this
Again, Mark Bradley’s amateur attempt at sensationalism proves waht a poor journalist he is. Bradley quit trying to stir something up with your tabloid style columns.
By Clay
February 14, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this
Again, Mark Bradley’s amateur attempt at sensationalism proves what a poor journalist he is. Bradley quit trying to stir something up with your tabloid style columns.
By Clay
February 14, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this
Again, Mark Bradley’s amateur attempt at sensationalism proves what a poor journalist he is. Bradley quit trying to stir something up with your tabloid style columns.
By Clay
February 14, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this
Again, Mark Bradley’s amateur attempt at sensationalism proves what a poor journalist he is. Bradley quit trying to stir something up with your tabloid style columns.
By Clay
February 14, 2008 10:08 AM | Link to this
Again, Mark Bradley’s amateur attempt at sensationalism proves what a poor journalist he is. Bradley quit trying to stir something up with your tabloid style columns.
By dawg in dacula
February 14, 2008 10:10 AM | Link to this
People need to realize that Vince Dooley is GOD and we should rename the school for him - UVD! Wait, that might have a different meaning!
By James Ralph Dockery
February 14, 2008 10:12 AM | Link to this
Tech named their B-Ball court Cremins Court, did he win a National Title or do more for Tech than Coach Dooley did for UGA? Why does this guy hate Coach Dooley so much? He’ll leave UGA one day and then someone will step up for Coach, but it would be nice for him to see that happen, he’s not getting any younger. Mr. Adams you will go down as one of the most hated people in GA history. Not just UGA history.
By reserviorDAWG
February 14, 2008 10:16 AM | Link to this
Clay, I think you got your point across.
By BHF
February 14, 2008 10:17 AM | Link to this
Mark,
This is a nice article. As a proud alum and fan of Coach Dooley, I agree that criticizing Adams’ motion to honor the coach only makes Dooley supporters seem unappreciative and bitter. After all, Coach Dooley is a man of such humble character that will be honored to have his legacy remembered in any manner the administration sees fit. I assure you he also does not want to again have his fans rally against the hierarchy of the University administation. We are all loyal bulldogs, so I ask Dooley supporters to take the high road and not cast a feeling of ungratefulness over Coach Dooley or the bulldog nation.
By GT2
February 14, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this
Clay - you are friggin’ brilliant! A dawg no doubt.
By Phil
February 14, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this
Why did Adams Fire Vince Dooley? Was it because he wasn’t a good AD? Can somebody answer that? I have been a dawg fan my whole life 40 years. Did Vince do something I don’t know about?
By shane #1
February 14, 2008 10:21 AM | Link to this
i am a dooley fan,have been since the sixtys,but i like the idea proposed by adams and evans.i do not like adams,more for his giant ego and the way he has run the school than for his handling of dooley.however,i think we are stuck with adams for some time to come,so we might as well make the best of the situation and support uga.roswell ed,i know you sound like a jerk sometimes,but geez man,can’t you show a little respect for one of your own?
By Boots
February 14, 2008 10:25 AM | Link to this
Personally, I thought the article was very appropriate. While I’m a big Georgia fan and truly respect Dooley’s contribution to the Bulldog tradition, we need to moderate the effort to deify him. The honor that is offered is appropriate and should be recognized as such.
Regarding Clay, what kind of mindless numbskull are you to keep hitting the damn button. Enough already!
By Dawghead
February 14, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this
It’s difficult to stand by, biting your lip, when a jackass, who loves the sound of his own voice and the look of his own picture more than UGA, does not embrace the university’s most revered living contributor.
What ticks people off, is that while the mercenary Adams stands in the schoolhouse door, so to speak, on this issue, the opportunity to pay a truly just honor (at the stadium) to Vince Dooley while he is with us could pass.
By Kevin
February 14, 2008 10:29 AM | Link to this
As a Tech fan I love seeing the puppies get the ‘ol newspaper across the nose. I may not enjoy the Tech loses, but this sure is fun to listen to. Adams may be a JERK, but at least he is giving Tech fans something to smile about. I’m sure you puppies will not mind Tech fans getting enjoyment out of this. For the record, Dooley is a good man and deserves better.
By Nate
February 14, 2008 10:30 AM | Link to this
As much as I relish any pain and anguish that comes UGA’s way, you people need to stop b*$%#ing about this. The HOPE scholarship and Adams have helped turn UGA from a B rate party school into a decent public university. And you’re even better at football.
I guess you’ll be moaning about this until the myopic slack jawed troglodytes that school had been graduating move away or die off. It’s the war of northern agression all over again.
Count your blessings and be happy with what you have you greedy fools.
By Florida Dawg
February 14, 2008 10:31 AM | Link to this
One popular sports talk radio personality in Jacksonville, said yesterday (2-13) on air that the Univ. of Ga has no class as to how they are honoring Dooley. He went on to say that Dooley “has done more the university than anyone has or ever will” and is very disapointed to learn that Dooley’s name will not be a part of the studium. I hope that comes after Adams is gone.
By mcdawg
February 14, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this
Dooley was NOT fired nor was he forced out-he retired as AD picked his successor and then changed his mind-i don’t blame adams a bit on thatand i think its highly unfair to adams regardless of how imperious he can be or all the other things that grate people about his personality
By Gene
February 14, 2008 10:33 AM | Link to this
It is far too simple to reduce the issue to Dooley v Adams. Dooley is the main player in transforming UGA from the party school of the 1950’ to the respected institution it is today. To call Adams a loose cannon would be to flatter him. He has done nothing positive for the University. He is a slimy politician who owes his job to the most corrupt and ineffective governor the state has ever had. Adams has personally relaxed admission and behavior standards for football players because Adams realizes that if Richt starts to lose big, the financial fat cats will make changes. When this finally happens, it will take a very long time for the University to recover. Until then, expect more of the same.
By Roswell Ed
February 14, 2008 10:36 AM | Link to this
Clay-
You are an idiot. All you need to do is hit post once. Look at the note underneath [Post].
I know—- we could rename the UGA library the Clay Memorial Library because obviously that is where he got his learn’n!!!
By Jen
February 14, 2008 10:41 AM | Link to this
Dooley absolutely deserves having the field named for him - being a long time Dawg fan and UGA alum, I’d like to see Dooley Field at Sanford Stadium. I think the garden and statue are a nice idea and great tribute to man who has done much for UGA. It may be a little sour grapes - but I do feel there should be some tribute to Dooley where the masses gather to celebrate the Dawgs on the gridiron.
As far as Adams goes - you can count me among the many who boo him every time he prances up or down the stairs of sect 125 on his way to the field. He can burn in the dark pit of hell as far as I’m concerned.
By roy hobbs
February 14, 2008 10:42 AM | Link to this
clay u r a king-sized d*******…they need a jan kemp bust at the 40 yard line for all to remember it’s just a game the pursuit of knowledge is once again p** on by the bulldog clay go get bent
By jane
February 14, 2008 10:44 AM | Link to this
Dooley did more for all Georgia sports than anyone has ever done. A complex is the right thing because he was more than just football for the U. of Ga.
By redfish
February 14, 2008 10:50 AM | Link to this
If dooley would be honest about why he had so much success at UGA, he would ask that the Stadium be named the ERK RUSSELL SANFORD STADIUM.
By Bob Sacamano
February 14, 2008 10:56 AM | Link to this
Mark, you hit the issue right on the button. Some of these guys (many of them bloggers) are such fundamentalists about Dooley they make the evening news on Al Jazeera look tame by comparison. We even have people trying to denigrate what Coach Richt has done here in Georgia in such a short time, because in their warped way of thinking, doing so honors Dooley.
Like you can’t honor both Dooley and Richt, no matter what Richt does, and he’s on a very quick pace to surpass Dooley where it matters, in wins, winning percentage, bowl wins, bowl trips, SEC Championships, and National Titles… heck, he already has more sUGAr Bowl victories than Dooley did. It’s not fair to Dooley, who would be the first to chastise these people. It’s not right, and it’s not the way a true member of Bulldog Nation should act.
Personally, I’ve come to Hunk Erdown’s way of thinking about the stadium. If we name it Sanford-Dooley Stadium, what happens when, not if, Richt retires after surpassing everything Dooley ever did? More wins. More bowl wins. More SEC Titles. A couple of National Titles. What happens then? The morning show guys on 960 The Ref here in Athens did a survey of college football stadiums and found the hyphenate stadiums pretty much only exist in the SEC. And we’re one of the only ones in the SEC without one. I kind of like that. Naming the athletic complex after Dooley is good, because it honors him as a coach *and as an AD.
The only thing I disagree with is that the statue should be at Sanford Stadium.
Serenity Now.
By Gary
February 14, 2008 10:58 AM | Link to this
I agree that naming the sports complex after Dooley is an appropriate gesture. After all, Dooley’s accomplishments as AD with several national championships in non-football sports is an even greater accomplishment than his NC in football. But come on, the statue is about that football championship, not the golf or gymnastics or baseball or tennis, etc championships. Put it where those games were won and everyone saw run, Hershel, run. Sanford stadium. You don’t have to rename the stadium. Just honor the man by putting the statue where he made is mark for 25 years. One day 25 years from now, I hope its joined by another of Mark Richt. Not many schools are blessed with two such outstanding men as head coaches in football.
By Former Dawg
February 14, 2008 11:06 AM | Link to this
I don’t know who Bradley is talking about. The Vince Dooley I know is not a great coach, a splendid AD nor a prince of a guy. He was a decent coach, a half-assed AD; and he was no sweetheart. He was petty, vindictive and selfish. Some honors are probably deserved due to his longevity; but, his name absolutely does not belong on or near Sanford Stadium.
By Dooley Field
February 14, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this
Why not Dooley Field at Sanford Stadium? I’m not crazy about hyphenations.
By charles corley
February 14, 2008 11:14 AM | Link to this
goooooooooood morning/ vince and barbara are doing AAmco commercials and pay day loans will be next. there are somethings even a rat won’t do.
By DirtyDawg
February 14, 2008 11:19 AM | Link to this
Count me as one that believes that Joel Eaves should also be included in the recognition - he was the catalyst that set UGA’s athletics back on track following the Wally Butts/Bear Bryant/Johnnie Griffith fiasco of the early ’60s (thanks a lot Furman, we’ll always remember your role in that).
And for those that don’t know what got into Adams in his obsession to get rid of Vince, do a little research and look for the ‘Dick Bestwick’ letter. It’s the one he wrote to Adams that called a spade a spade - namely that Adams is an ego-maniacal, arrogant, control-freak with a Napoleonic complex that can’t stand to have anyone around that doesn’t kiss is rear end on a daily basis. He was determined to get rid of everybody at the school that had any kind of positive reputation for excellence in anything - especially if he hadn’t appointed them which made them beholden to him alone. He’s a jerk of the first order and will always be such.
You may not like it Bradley, but those of us that believe in earned loyalty and showing appropriate appreciation for all the memories - not the kind that’s bought through intimidation and brow-beating - will always be ‘Vinceniks’ and proud of it…and don’t for a minute that Adams is trying to do anything to ‘placate’ us, or Vince. He just doesn’t care what any of us think - just as we don’t care what you think.
By Another former Dawg
February 14, 2008 11:21 AM | Link to this
Scrubs will be bitter, I guess.
By old timer
February 14, 2008 11:23 AM | Link to this
Adams is wrong and his ego is too big to let him care. He takes their money and perks but doesn’t give a damn about the school or any employee. He would probably make a good modern day CEO at an airline.
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February 14, 2008 11:24 AM | Link to this
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By GW
February 14, 2008 11:40 AM | Link to this
Adams was booed at the Sugar Bowl BEFORE the game during introductions of dignitaries, including Ray Nagin. You mean there will come a time when Adams WILL NOT be the UGA president? Somebody better tell him.
By Sick and Tired
February 14, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this
Please leave the name of Sanford stadium alone. I am a fan of Coach Dooley but the stadium name has been the same since 1929. We have had great coaches and players in the years after its naming. Why change that now? Dooley deserves the honor he is recieving. And make no mistake it is an HONOR to have the athletic complex at a storied university named after you. Leave the name of Sanford Stadium ALONE. Also do a little reading on who its named for. What do you people think it will be named after another fifty or so years Sanford-dooley-Richt-smith-jones-fred stadium. Get a grip on yourselves…Really…..sheeeeesh.
By W
February 14, 2008 11:47 AM | Link to this
That statue is fugly and honors no one!!!
By ED IN ELLIJAY ALUM 78
February 14, 2008 11:49 AM | Link to this
HOW THE HELL DOES MICHAEL ADAMS STILL REMAIN AS OUR PRESIDENT??? MAYBE WE SHOULD DEMAND A NEW BOARD OF REGENTS, WHO DO NOT HAVE THE BALLS TO FIRE ADAMS!!!!!! I BOO EVERY TIME ADAMS GIVES AWAY THE CROWN TO THE HOMECOMING QUEEN.I HATE THE SOB!!! TREATING DOOLEY THE WAY HE HAS IS SHAMEFUL!!! I DO NOT WANT THIS TO GO AWAY UNTIL ADAMS IS GONE!
By AltamahaDawg
February 14, 2008 11:57 AM | Link to this
I belive that President Adams handled the PR about as poorly as a person can, shooting himself in the foot, but this re-writing of history pretty unhealthy. To read some of the comments and even a few of the written accounts in various papers, you would think that Dooley was just cruising along , and all of a sudden Adams unexpectedly fired the man.
Did coach Dooley not previously set a timetable for his own retirement, ask and receive an extention as it got closer to that date, and only when was not granted the “one more year” second extention, when the crap hit the fan? Selfish egotistically need to run the university as he was hired to do aside, wasn’t that the truth?
By Dubya is right
February 14, 2008 12:03 PM | Link to this
That statue sure is one cartoonish and ugly statue. It’s hideous.
By mach5dawg
February 14, 2008 12:09 PM | Link to this
Sanford Stadium should remain Sanford Stadium. No hyphen. No “Dooley Field.” Long before Dooley they were playing football at UGA, and Sanford got the stadium built.
Also, what happens after Richt supasses Dooley? Does it becomes Sanford-Dooley-Richt Stadium? Or, Richt Turf on Dooley Field at Sanford Stadium?
By UGASlobberknocker
February 14, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this
I can remember back in the 1980s when Mark Bradley was the premier writer at the AJC and damned good. WHAT HAPPENNED? He has been clueless for at least a decade now. Mark, stick with KY basketball they could use your sage advice.
As far as Adams/Dooley I think I am pretty typical..a UGA graduate who not only buys season tix every yr with a substantial contribution, but also contributes significantly to the alumni assn. Im not a lunatic fringe fan. But I absolutely abhor Adams. He is an imperious, arrogant, jealous meglamaniac, who dissed the biggest icon we have. How does he expect people to respond? Im surprised the insecure little elf has not called for Larry to retire (after all he is more popular than Mikee) or put UGA VI to sleep (also more popular and looks a lot better). Coach Dooley has more class in his little toe than Adams has ever had. I was at the Sugar Bowl and Adams got what he deserved, probably LESS than he deserved. Dawg fans just absolutely hate him for very good reason and nothing is going to change that. When he leaves, it will be a very happy day in the Bulldog Nation. I think we should commision a statue of Adams, then place it at the equestrian center..in the manure bin. but maybe not..dont want to insult the horse sh#t.
By alum
February 14, 2008 12:22 PM | Link to this
Adams is not the president of a sports franchise, he’s the president of the school. THE SCHOOL. You know, classes, students, higher education, things tied to “University.”
It doesn’t matter that Adams’ focus is to increase the value of a Georgia degree, the redneck sports fans want Dooley Stadium!
Sorry, this time the baby doesn’t get his bottle.
By AltamahaDawg
February 14, 2008 12:35 PM | Link to this
Ed, just how I was taught, but I dont care what sort of grudge I might hold for man I’ve never met, about events that I really don’t know the details…..I would NEVER EVER boo during the Homecoming queens moment of glory. Its her moment, not mine to prove to the world how important I think my feeble opinion is.
And if that were My daughter I can assure you I would search you out and cram a coke down your pipe.
By True Dawg Fan
February 14, 2008 1:04 PM | Link to this
GREAT ARTICLE!!! Let me start by saying the alum that continue to “boo” Adams look like true jackasses… put it behind you. Adams has elavated UGA on the academic front and is a big supporter of the athletic programs. My problem with Dooley was that he refused to schedule national non-conference games outside the south. Not to mention 1984 -89 were not memorable years. In fact, UGA football started to take BIG steps back. At least Damnon is agressive in non-conference scheduling (already have my flight booked to Phoenix for the ASU game). This type of scheduling will only help our national exposure. Let’s go ahead and dedicate the Dooley garden or statue. Move forward and stop worrying about the past.
By Homer Scott
February 14, 2008 1:05 PM | Link to this
Where will the statue of Jan Kemp go? She’s one up (rightfully so) on ole Vince ‘The Tefelon’ Prince. How many ‘under 650 on the SAT’ football players did VD get into school?
By TDone
February 14, 2008 1:07 PM | Link to this
What about a statue for Jan Kemp? I mean, she made Dooley play by the rules (finally).
By Bob Sacamano
February 14, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this
Hey, alum, the faculty at Georgia hate Adams’ guts for the very same reasons that the football fans do: his humongous ego and his imperious attitude towards the school. He’s like the evil Emperor from those Star Wars flicks. And the students, well, we hate him even more for his ridiculous plus minus system which doesn’t reward you for getting an “A” but punishes the hell out of you for getting what used to be “B’s.” It should really be called the minus system. And he dictated that to us without any input from our impotent Student Council or from the students or faculty (who also hate the plus-minus system).
He’s a class-A control freak jerk. There’s an old saying that if everyone hates your guts, then well, it might just be you.
By CDM2
February 14, 2008 1:09 PM | Link to this
Let me see if I get this right.
Former players and fans that want to honor their friend, coach and mentor in a manner in which men of his achievement have been honored historically, should “let it go”.
While the President of a higher institution of learning, should stick with his ”Pride” on the matter.
Hmmmmm, from an outsider, it kind of looks childish on the part of the person who wants to hang on to his prideful decision for pride sake.
Dr. Adams (Ph. D. - Doctor of Philosophy), “Do The Right Thing!” Come on teach us all a lesson in humility.
By ......................BuLLdawg
February 14, 2008 1:12 PM | Link to this
BEIRUT, Lebanon - The chief of Hezbollah told throngs of supporters at a funeral for slain commander Imad Mughniyeh his group would retaliate against Israeli targets anywhere in the world after accusing the Jewish state of killing the militant.
Israel ordered its military, embassies and Jewish institutions overseas to go on alert earlier in the day, fearing revenge attacks for the car bomb that killed Mughniyeh Tuesday night in Damascus. The former Hezbollah security chief was one of world’s most wanted fugitives, accused of masterminding attacks that killed hundreds of Americans in Lebanon in the 1980s.
While Hezbollah supporters bid farewell to Mughniyeh, tens of thousands of their pro-Western political opponents filled a downtown Beirut square to mark former Prime Minister Rafik Hariri’s 2005 assassination. The opposing gatherings reflected Lebanon’s divided soul and fearing clashes, authorities deployed thousands of troops. But by early evening, there were no reports of violence.
Hezbollah and its Iranian backers blamed Israel for killing Mughniyeh but Israel denied involvement. In a videotaped eulogy broadcast on a giant screen to thousands attending the south Beirut funeral, Nasrallah said Israel had taken the fight outside the “natural battlefield” of Israel and Lebanon.
“You have crossed the borders,” he said. “With this murder, its timing, location and method — Zionists, if you want this kind of open war, let the whole world listen: Let this war be open.”
Thousands gathered in a hall in the Roueiss neighborhood of Beirut where Mughniyeh’s coffin lay draped in a Hezbollah flag. A band played Lebanon’s national anthem and the guerrilla group’s anthem. Outside in the rain, tens of thousands more stood in silence.
Nasrallah — himself in hiding because of fears of assassination since the 2006 summer war with Israel — warned Israel that its alleged killing of Mughniyeh was a “very big folly” which will be avenged.
By Jay
February 14, 2008 1:14 PM | Link to this
This is actually an article befitting Terence Moore and for the first time EVER, I would have actually agreed with Terence, as I do here with Mark. You Vince zealots will NEVER be satisfied. You’re similar to fundamentalists in that you would never be happy until Adams was literally hanging on North Campus and Vince was the new school president. And trust me, we would not want that for our fine academic (yes academic, not football) institution.
By Jacobsky
February 14, 2008 1:19 PM | Link to this
You Dooley lovers sound like a bunch of stupid whiny b1tches. This is a great honor. He’s done much more for the Athletic Dept as a whole than football. This is the right thing, if even. So shut the fvck up already.
By J.Bartlett
February 14, 2008 1:21 PM | Link to this
Vince Dooley’s UGA fame was not due to to his horticultural skills, but rather his excellence as a football coach and AD. As a minimum, it should be “Dooley Field” at Sanford Stadium.
By ESPN Announcer
February 14, 2008 1:22 PM | Link to this
“So what’s going on with Britney?”
By UGA GRADUATE
February 14, 2008 1:56 PM | Link to this
8 dollars!!! That thar is a whole ours werk fer me.
By Truth-Tell
February 14, 2008 2:04 PM | Link to this
Erk Russell and Hershel Walker put Dooley on the map.
By alum
February 14, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this
Bob S, there are two sides to every story. For academic exercise, make Adams’ arguement. Adams has to serve the board of regents so you better believe there’s a method to his madness. When CMR came on as coach there was a players only meeting complaining that he was too hard on them. CMR proceeded to elevate the football team to new heights, the same way Adams has elevated the university. Toughen up. You will not accomplish anything significant in life if you worry about being laughed at or hated. Adams is stronger standing on his own than the entire redneck sports fan contingent. An “Impeach Bush” bumper sticker has more political impact than the Dooley Stadium set.
By Rev. Dudley Doright
February 14, 2008 2:07 PM | Link to this
I would recommend a statue of Hershel Walker carrying Vince Dooley piggy-back!
My guess is that would more accurately depict the route to success taken by Vince Dooley.
By Tech FAN
February 14, 2008 2:17 PM | Link to this
HEE HEE HEE HEE HEE HEE HEE HEE HEE HEE HEE HEE HEE HEE HEE HEE HEE HEE HEE HEE HEE HEE HEE
Clay must have been a valedictorian at UGA.
By 59bulldawg
February 14, 2008 2:18 PM | Link to this
Damn!!!! It’s rough in here today! Like I said on another blog what’s been proposed thus far is a good start. I personally like the name Dooley Field at Sanford Stadium. With that name you’re still playing “Tween the Hedges” and the stadium name is left untouched. I’d even be willing to leave the statue where it is … thereby placating most Dawg fans who want to honor Vince but disagree as to how much and where. Whether anything more happens is in large measure up to Adams. But even if anything more doesn’t happen during the remainder of his tenure … he won’t be president forever. As for whether some of us dishonor Dooley with our zealous efforts on his behalf, well I guess folks can take anything to the extreme. But Mark I suspect if you ever had an opportunity to solicit an opinion on this from Barbara, Deanna, Debbie, Daniel, or Derrick they would probably be less embarrassed by the support than they were at their husband’s/father’s treatment by the university that he so ably served for a significant portion of his life.
By scooter11
February 14, 2008 2:37 PM | Link to this
Tech Fan is enjoying a tickle pile right here on our blog. Now THAT’s entertainment.
By MV7
February 14, 2008 2:43 PM | Link to this
While your at it rename the Georgia Dome and field to Patrino Field @ Vick-Mora Dome. Seems about as fitting.
By reply to 59bulldawg
February 14, 2008 3:29 PM | Link to this
Are you kidding me? I do not care what the Dooley family thinks of their father/husband’s treatment. UGA is larger than the Dooley family. Let’s ask the Dooley family about Vince’s loyalty when he flirted with Auburn weeks before the 1981 Sugar Bowl. Take away Walker (once in lifetime player) and he had three SEC rings in 25 years. The point is… let’s keep it in perspective. Walker and Erk were more instrumental.
By observer
February 14, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this
OK.
It’s only a game, at a university. Not a university, at a game.
A university is run by a president the president’s priorities should not favor football; however, at UGA that seems illogical? When the president thought that sports could continue on with their success with a new AD, he took that action. And look you’re still good at football. Yeeeaaaaah!
A great coach should be honored and the president wants to honor him. Done. Let this stuff go dawg fans. There are bigger issues to worry about in life.
By Ken
February 14, 2008 3:34 PM | Link to this
Herschel won the 1980 NC and the SEc from 1980 thru 1982. Without Herschel, Dooley would have won only 3 SEC crowns in 25 years. That’s an average coach at best. As AD, Dooley hired Goff and Donnan. He obviosly wasn’t looking for a coach who would post abetter record than he did. AS AD, he wanted to give Donnan one more year to see if he made “substantial improvement”. Without Adam’s interference, we might not have Richt as coach today. As an alumnus of UGA (BBA & MBA), I would like to see the stadium name left as is, with no changes whatever.
By Bryan G
February 14, 2008 3:53 PM | Link to this
lol…I love the “how good would he be without Herschel” people.
Well, how about Spurrier without Wuerffel (sp?)? How about Carroll without Leinart? How about Beamer without Vick? How about Ole Miss without Archie?
I mean, you can do that with almost any coach or school except FSU or Penn State. Come on people, that’s ridiculous.
Dooley recruited Herschel Walker and got him to play. Yes, that was by far his most successful stretch. The fact is that he still did win a NC and 6 SECs and 201 games.
Was Dooley one of the best coaches of all-time? No. But he’s certainly one of the 2-5 best SEC coaches ever when you consider his entire record. The others (Neyland, Bryant, Jordan, etc.) have their names where they belong.
It’s time we put Dooley’s where his name belongs. On a house that he built.
By Boots
February 14, 2008 4:01 PM | Link to this
Since the remains of Louis Grizzard are spread on the 50 yard line, at least that’s what I’ve been told, then the stadium should be named the Louis Grizzard Memorial Resting Grounds at Sanford Stadium.
At least, the Grizzard family should be consulted before you go and rename his resting site or attach another name to it.
By alum
February 14, 2008 4:13 PM | Link to this
Some facts on Georgia financials (for those who think Adams is somehow running the school into the ground):
Georgia received $96.9 million in donations last year (a 24 percent increase over 2006’s total of $77.8 million).
Gifts and pledges for athletic purposes totaled $36.5 million (of which $25.5 million was for seating priority).
So if you think those 34 cent donations keep Adams up at night, you also think Georgia did not make Dooley rich.
By Frank Lane
February 14, 2008 4:21 PM | Link to this
Mark, I hope you read this and have someone do the research. I am pretty sure that if one looks at Dooley’s cumulative recored as a head coach both before and after Irk Russell as an assistant, that he did better with Irk than without him.
If one also looks at Irk Russell’s record with and without Dooley, I am pretty sure Irk did even better without Dooley than he did with him, even in you included Irk’s record at Grady high school when he was only 27.
If this analysis bears out, it would suggest that Irk Russell was the genius coach, not Vince Dooley. Please check this out.
Frank Lane
By wes
February 14, 2008 4:27 PM | Link to this
This “prince of a guy” you speak of hired Jim Harrick.
Dooley is a loser.
By KingGator
February 14, 2008 4:41 PM | Link to this
I’m no UGA fan, but Vince Dooley deserved alot more respect than was bestowed upon him by the former pres. of the school. Keep in mind, UGA has one of the premier athletic programs it has mainly because of Vince Dooley. You, Mr. Adams, are just enjoying the spoils, and collecting your big fat check.
KG
By bob sackoshitto
February 14, 2008 5:01 PM | Link to this
Da I qoute Seinfeld I’m so clever master of my domain yadda yadda yadda your so good looking soup natzi can u spare a square
By greekdawg
February 14, 2008 5:01 PM | Link to this
alum- It’s embarassing when a UGA alum shows his butt, but you just did. I don’t know when you went to UGA, but I remember one deck, people sitting on the grass shoulders, the bridge and RR tracks. Now look at what we have and make a point when you get your head out of your butt to check who the FB coach and Athletic Director was during those years. We made VD rich? Try the other was around. SHUT UP!
By mr. nice
February 14, 2008 5:04 PM | Link to this
Without #34 Walker and Erk Russel, Vince Dooley would not have been even a mediocre coach.
By mr. nice
February 14, 2008 5:05 PM | Link to this
Without #34 Walker and Erk Russel, Vince Dooley would not have been even a mediocre coach.
By Phil
February 14, 2008 5:09 PM | Link to this
If I were Vince Dooley, I’d want that statue as far away from the stadium as possible.
It looks absolutely ridiculous.
By Bob Sacamano
February 14, 2008 5:37 PM | Link to this
Alum,
You conveniently forget about Adams’ misappropriations of funds. The six-figure salary for the job his wife performed that was about as honest a job as that Bomar kid, you remember, the QB from Oklahoma? Or about the Costa Rica resort he had built for “students” to use for study abroad, but was used mostly by high money boosters.
Adams could give two craps about academic performance. He’s a slimy, two-timing politician who uses the Campus rent-a-cops as his personal gestapo, who continues to disregard any and all complaints about his “leadership” from faculty and students, who implements policy on his own whim and without input from others, except maybe his yes-men cronies on the Board of Regents, and who puts money matters before students and their rights and issues. In fact, he frequently has no problem with stepping all over the students. If you wanna involve students in the sports argument, how is it that UGA has the second-largest stadium in the SEC and has something like the 9th smallest student allotment of tickets for football games? Please explain that to me, alum. How is it that you can’t squeeze in about 25,000 students into a 93,000 seat stadium? I personally don’t believe that’s asking too much, but Michael Slimey Adams apparently thinks so.
This goes well above and beyond football, alum. Michael Adams is hated for many reasons beyond the petty rivalry he had with Dooley. And he’s brought everything on himself. He’s as bad as Rumsfeld was. We could have this thing in Iraq almost over if Rumsfeld had just listened to his damn generals in the first place, listen to the guys who actually know what they’re talking about. But no, his massive ego had to be fed, so we did things his way, and now, a war which should be winding down needed a Surge last year that was five years too late to get to the point where we have real progress in the region. Unfortunately, if a cut and run guy like Obama gets elected, the Surge would have been for not. And it was all avoidable if the moron SecDef had just listened.
Kind of like Michael Adams. If he didn’t need constant glorification of his massive ego on a daily basis and actually listened to others, specifically students and faculty when they want to voice criticism, he would not be the hated man he is today. He would be a beloved president. Instead, he is persona non grata by everyone but, well, you I guess. It didn’t have to be this way, but it is. He brought all of this negativity on himself because he refuses to believe he isn’t the smartest man in the room, or he didn’t want smart guys whom he didn’t hire voicing credible opinions. He wants to be surrounded by his yes men and his back slappers, and that is that.
You need to step out a bit, alum, and open your damn eyes. Let the truth filter in a bit. This is so far beyond a stupid statue and garden it’s not funny. It’s just damn sad. And it didn’t have to be this way.
By jim
February 14, 2008 5:41 PM | Link to this
Adams is a schmuck. Put the statue outside th e stadium where it belongs. Put another one in the garden
By Dick
February 14, 2008 6:28 PM | Link to this
Dooley doesn’t deserve anything. He worked for a pay check and may I add a darn good one at that.
By TDOG
February 14, 2008 6:40 PM | Link to this
We don’t need any more Dooley stuff reminding us of the past and his one year wonder. What I remember is lots of controversy with students getting free passes and teachers getting shafted because Dolley was the man. Let the past be. Give the man his due in the annals and lets try to get some lasting history going with the man we have now. If they put a statue up for Dooley will Richt put a black jersey on it to stir up the gang he is assembling?
By AltamahaDawg
February 14, 2008 6:57 PM | Link to this
Bob, I’m sure you are a hoot at the local county zoning meetings.
By Bob Sacamano
February 14, 2008 7:29 PM | Link to this
AltamahaDog, I’ve never been to a county zoning meeting. I don’t think it’d be my cup of tea. And since I’ve never been, what you said is a little lost on me. Don’t know whether it was a complement or a scathing burn, so I don’t know how to properly respond, whether with a thank you or a smart-a* comment. So… sorry?
By T-bone
February 14, 2008 7:38 PM | Link to this
For those of you that say…”let it go”, or….”this will blow over in time”….forget it. This is a bigger fight than the the war between the Yankees and the Americans in the 1860’s. The Bible says pride goeth before the fall….and brother, Adams ain’t gonna make it here. He might as well wear a Gator shirt and Tech nerd cap, cause, dang it, he ain’t one of us. Perhaps Adams’ thrice poor judgment is not worthy of the current state of unmerciful criticism and permanent “hanging in effigy”…..on second thought, hell yes it is.
By Floyd
February 14, 2008 7:56 PM | Link to this
I shore do hate to say this hear, butt even Auburn has got more sense in how to handle footbawl heros than usens. They know how to name there stadiiium and footbawl field. Makes me wish I had gone to Auburn to get my edukation youall hear me. Adams aint noting but embarrest our state.Dooley was one of the greatest coachesin the SEC! I shore am glad he got us a good caoch fore he got fired. I jest got one word to say to Adams boooooooo.
By bob bender
February 14, 2008 8:19 PM | Link to this
problemm with all this is that you can’t possibly fit all the egos involved inside the stadium, much less name the stadium after them. ihave no doubt that all of this is a classic tale of the presidents office resenting the athletic department being able to tell the presidents office who’s boss. happens all the time. a little humility goes a long way. but i get the feeling that there isn’t too much of that in a place where most fans go to the game drunk and then collectively shoot birds at the opposing fans. georgia deserves all the trouble that comes its way. in fact, i appreciate adams to some degree for putting the arrogant fans in their place.
By Bob Sacamano
February 14, 2008 8:31 PM | Link to this
Hey, T-bone… you’re a moron. Yankees and Americans? Seems as if someone lives in a personal fantasy land. I suggest you take this to heart… the southern states lost their rebellion. They did. It isn’t halftime. They’re not readying the next offensive. It’s over. Done. And the US is a better, stronger country for it. I can just about guarantee that the world is much better as well. Think about all of the horrors that wouldn’t have been stopped if not for a strong United States. Nazi Germany, anyone?
Also, I know people in the South usually have to be pulled kicking and screaming into the present, being the last people in the world to hold on to slavery, being the next to last people in the world to hold on to the kind of apartheid known as separate but equal Jim Crow b.s., so T-bone, I suggest you read a few history books by someone a lot smarter than you (someone with at least an 8th grade education will do) and join us in the present. Guess what? Glorious Dixie wasn’t quite a glorious as you think it was. And not just for the slaves, but for the vast majority of poor, white farmers as well. There was definitely a kind of aristocracy in the antebellum South only seen in Europe. Yes, in the North, there was economic inequality as well, but there was soon to be an emerging middle class that would never have existed in the South. So, hypothetically, lets say the South won their rebellion to keep their slave-based economy intact without interference, what logically would have happened through the years? Well, logically, as the disenfranchised would have grown and the aristocracy become more isolated, along with the fractured confederate government (which failed in the U.S. after the American Revolution, where the states were more powerful than the central government, which is why we have a Constitution, not Articles of Confederation) which would have no real power to govern or national military, socialism or communism would be embraced by the poor, white, illiterate farmers in the South who would then turn to the slaves as their natural allies against the aristocracy. In the end, the result would have been a socialist / communist uprising and blood bath that would have made Russia’s October Revolution or the French Revolution look like a dainty tea party.
Don’t try and spread your ignorance on a blog monitored by a history major, T-bone. You’ll lose every time. Have fun at your next Klan rally, idiot.
By uga95
February 14, 2008 8:35 PM | Link to this
I’ve said it before…Sanford-Walker stadium is the only hyphenated name I would ever accept!! Otherwise, leave it alone!! Herschel is the one that took us dawg fans to the promised land!!
By alum
February 14, 2008 8:48 PM | Link to this
Greekdawg. You remember the old days and look what we have today. One hundred percent right. So you’re saying since Dooley was the figurehead during that time he should be lauded. By that rationale, Adams has presided over the most lucrative and academically successful time in UGA history. Bring out the statue.
After Herschel, there was nothing. Dooley was coach and AD for the 20 years Georgia football was dormant. He wanted to keep Donnan.
I don’t even like Adams. But I’d just as soon vote Clinton be added to Mount Rushmore than add any name to anything. Some thing are best left alone.
By art
February 14, 2008 8:53 PM | Link to this
Who gives a s—t if Dooley is remembered? Most people in Georgia could not care less about that jerk coach or the equally obnoxious Michael Adams. In fact, no self-respecting college graduate from a reputable institution (Duke ‘77; Duke Med ‘81) wants their tax money squandered on a statue to a LIVING person. Let the jerk croak, then name a street after him. Don’t waste taxpayers’ money “remembering” some fool whose only legacy is a bunch of dumb jocks and one championship. Maybe we should remember the Jan Kemp controversy of the 1980s?
By T-bone
February 14, 2008 8:53 PM | Link to this
Oh brother…I’m on a sports blog and get a history lesson from a dude who was probably on the debate team at Dartmouth (and couldn’t throw a frisbee 12 feet). By way of clarification, you have me correctly pegged as a redneck (its a badge of honor, pal), but I’m not into the Klan or their (now history tainted) beliefs. I enjoy and respect all races. But with all due repect, you could use a good dose of Lewis Grizzard reading, and I’d bet the farm you didn’t grow up within 800 miles of Georgia (God’s country). Regardless, thanks for your inpu and I enjoyed the interchange.
By T-bone
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