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Brady carries coaches on back
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Now it’s Thomas Dimitroff’s turn to join those who should blow kisses toward the primary reason they’ve become highly favored in the NFL.
Tom Brady.
“Quarterbacks probably have made everybody in this league successful,” Ken Herock said Thursday. He served as an accomplished NFL general manager for more than three decades after drafting the likes of Steve Young, Doug Williams and Brett Favre.
Added Herock, who still lives in the Atlanta area after his stint with the Falcons: “Your whole franchise’s success is based on the quarterback. Even when I was back with the Raiders [in the 1970s], we had Ken Stabler. I went on to other places. So did Ron Wolf [another noted GM]. The coaches went on. It just happens when you have a great quarterback.”
Yeah, but never like this. I mean, without Brady, Dimitroff doesn’t use his role in New England, as mostly a glorified scout with zero experience as a general manager, to get hired by the Falcons after a Webcam interview.
Without Brady, Eric Mangini doesn’t go from serving as an NFL position coach for 10 years to Patriots defensive coordinator for a season and then to head coach of the New York Jets at 34.
Without Brady, Charlie Weis doesn’t get virtually a lifetime contract at Notre Dame after just a few games on the job after leaving Foxborough.
Without Brady, Romeo Crennel doesn’t leave the Patriots at 58 for the Cleveland Browns for the opportunity he should have gotten years ago when he was a young and gifted assistant.
Without Brady, Josh McDaniels doesn’t go from nobody to somebody who is considered among the “hot” head coaching prospects at 31 after two years as the Patriots’ offensive coordinator.
Without Brady, Bill Belichick, well, it’s like this: He isn’t the Hall of Fame coach he’s expected to become. He’s just another valued coordinator who keeps floating from team to team. If you include his stint as head coach in Cleveland, his record without Brady is 42-58, and 5-13 with the Patriots. That’s opposed to the 99-26 record, the three Super Bowl trophies and the ongoing perfect season Belichick has enjoyed with Brady.
Now consider that little problem for those who leave the Patriots for elsewhere: Brady doesn’t go with them.
“Yeah, and just because people get jobs from these kinds of situations, it’s not necessarily a means that those people will be successful,” said Herock, telling the truth.
Mangini went from magic to mush in New York after he pushed the Jets to a wild-card berth in his first season. They dropped to 4-12 this year. As a result, Mangini has become more noted for feuding with Belichick (Mangini triggered Spygate) than X’s and O’s.
Maybe you heard: Notre Dame vanished from the face of the earth last season under Weis during his third season, and whether the Fighting Irish will return next season is anybody’s guess.
Crennel was on the verge of becoming the Browns’ former head coach last season, but Derek Anderson forgot he wasn’t supposed to be any good at quarterback. So can Crennel get lucky two years in a row with Anderson? Who knows?
Then there is McDaniels prospering with a New England offense that just set all kinds of records. Then again, McDaniels still has Brady. The same goes for Belichick, who should join McDaniels in checking Brady’s temperature every day.
In other words, the Falcons’ hiring of the snowboarding Dimitroff is an all-or-nothing thing. It could produce a touchdown courtesy of a youthful 41-year-old with fresh ideas, or a turnover courtesy of an overmatched neophyte GM who worked in a front office where Scott Pioli and Belichick made 100 percent of the decisions.
Just a thought: Dimitroff can solve a lot of problems by trading for … Tom Brady.
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By hj
January 17, 2008 11:24 PM | Link to this
first
By Singletary
January 17, 2008 11:57 PM | Link to this
There is a point after which you say, “enough.” Person X (or TD) is the choice of reasoned (desperate?) management. Give him time to grow or fail; the same as you’d give any other primate. One AJC blog poster offered to give him 72 hours: how about 72 days until we rip him a new bodily orafice? ;=) Be fair.
He may eat granola, sleep in polar snow berms, or hang out in Singapore palapa bars, but when he’s punched a time clock, his gym bag was in the same locker room as those who can spell Lombardi Trophy. Now, if there is no obvious, transparent coach search including minorities or a “needs=based” draft that features zero O & D linemen, THEN I’ll say I’ve been lied to again.
Until then, GO FALCONS.
By Dominic Hughes
January 18, 2008 12:11 AM | Link to this
You forget one of the reasons for Brady’s success is his great offensive line. A number of whom were drafted by Thoms Dimitroff. Say what you will Terence, but Dimitroff is a much better GM candidate and much less of a gamble than, say, a certain Mr Mathis you were cheerleading for recently.
By Terence Uncle Tom Moore
January 18, 2008 12:26 AM | Link to this
I really wish ESPN would hurry up and offer you a job se we could get rid of you. Terence stutter spitty mouth Moore you have no clue about football so stop writing about it. You are the same guy who said in last year’s draft that if Landry falls to the Falcons they should not take him because he will be a bust and the wise decision is to take Jamaal Anderson. RIIIIIIII. How did that prediction turn out? Landry looks like a future pro bowler and great safety for years to come while Anderson looks like another Mc chicken nugget Kay bust. Dude stop writing.
By NASCARfan
January 18, 2008 1:11 AM | Link to this
Dude, you are such a fraking moron, I can’t even imagine how you can tie your shoes.
There’s a reason why Dimitroff is the Falcon’s GM, and it has NOTHING to do with Tom Brady, because Dimitroff didn’t draft Brady, idiot.
But he did draft guys like Ben Watson, Asante Samuel, Vince Wilfork, Laurence Marony, and more importantly, other players in the lower rounds who have turned out to be major contributors in this Patriot team.
He knows how to draft players, and build through the draft for depth while supplementing the roster with mid-level free agents with something to prove and a wealth of experience who are team-first guys.
Meaning he’s not going to draft the me-first guys like Little Jimmy Mora and your boy Rich McKay prefer to draft. You know, guys like the self-proclaimed awesome MeAngelo Hall, or Fat Alge.
And I bet you that Dimitroff would have drafted the DT from Louisville, Okoye, like the Falcons SHOULD have drafted last year had he been the GM.
Moore, you truly are an idiot. It’s not even really funny anymore. It’s a bit frustrating and kind of sad. I can’t even muster up the indignation to hate you much anymore. Write some more about the lack of minorities in baseball for us, while totally ignoring the huge amount of Latino and Asian players.
That’ll get me hating you properly again.
Fool.
By Najeh Davenpoop
January 18, 2008 2:51 AM | Link to this
OMFG TERANSE MORE IS SUCH A RASCIST HE SED ROMEO CRENELL SHOULD HAVE GOT A JOB IF HE WAS WITE HE WOULD NEVER HAVE SED THAT I HAITE YOU TERANSE GO AWAY
Seriously though, this column is a great argument for why the Falcons shouldn’t hire Josh McDaniels. I don’t think it applies to Dimitroff necessarily, since nobody knows how big a role he really played in finding players like Asante Samuel, Ty Warren, Dan Koppen, etc. It could be all his skills, it could be all Scott Pioli. Only time will tell. McDaniels, on the other hand, has accomplished even less than the wildly overrated Charlie Weis did when he got his head coaching job at Notre Dame. I highly doubt McDaniels has much to do with the Patriots’ success on offense at all.
By David Deas
January 18, 2008 6:02 AM | Link to this
That was a pretty sad oversimplification of the circumstances surrounding the Patriots’ success.
If you remove the starting QB off of any team in the NFL, that team automatically takes a highly vertical nose dive because talent at that particular position on the field cannot in any way be compensated for simply through exceptional coaching. Its not possible.
You see the same thing with Peyton Manning and the Colts; if you take Peyton Manning from the Colts roster, no amount of ‘coaching up’ by any Hall of Fame coach could possibly make up for the loss. As a coach, your only actual recourse would be to go out and find the next Peyton Manning. The ability to find players who can best execute your gameplan is an extremely important part of coaching, and valued talent by management.
(*) As an Atlanta native, I’m all too familiar with the importance of the quarterback position considering the impact of Michael Vick’s recent and very public departure. I knew Vick was very important to our team. I just didn’t realize how important he really actually was.
What is unique about the Patriots’ situation is they have the talent, the coaches and the management. That extremely rare combination is what elevates a team to great enough heights in sports to form a dynasty. You cannot have greatness without those three elements working together in unison. Whenever it comes down to winning championships and forming a dynasty, a coach cannot be great without great players and a player cannot be great without great coaches. And neither would be great without the upper management responsible for bringing the cast together in the first place, and then keeping that cast together throughout the trials of free agency.
The idea that there exists a coach so great that he can form a dynasty out of mediocre talent is a fan myth brought on by watching too many movies. There is no question Belichick would not be where he is without Brady, but there is also no question that Brady would not be who he is without Belichick. The same as Michael Jordan would not be who he eventually turned out to be without Phil Jackson. Nor would Phil Jackson have turned out to be who he did without players like Michael Jordan, Rodman, Scottie Pippen, Shaq, and Kobe Bryant. Had any of these characters ended up separated out on mediocre teams, which they very well could have, we would have never witnessed greatness. We would have never witnessed those dynasties dominate the way we remember.
The contributions of Bill Belichick to the New England Patriots are so well documented, and so numerous that I need not waste time repeating through them. What unique I can personally say about Belichick is that I’ve never seen a team so utterly captured by their head coach as the Patriots. They repeat everything Belichick says. They parrot everything Belichick does. They eat, dream and poop his philosophy and gameplanning. All of the coaches and players, including Tom Brady, are extensions of their head coach unlike anything I’ve ever seen anywhere else in team sports. Those players and coaches believe in Belichick, and its because of the credibility his accurate assessments have brought him during his tenure. And since the primary job of a head coach is to unite his team, Belichick wins my coaching award just off that alone. We don’t even have to talk about X’s and O’s.
By drew
January 18, 2008 6:05 AM | Link to this
So Terrence, by your logic, if the Falcons had Tom Brady, Petrino could have simply jumped on his back and rode to the Super Bowl??? BWAH-HAH-HAH-HAH!!
I know it’s been said many times before, but Terrence….you’re an idiot!
By Big Ed
January 18, 2008 6:56 AM | Link to this
If the Patriots thought so much of Brady why did they wait until the 6th round to draft him. He was brought in as a backup QB just like a Shaub or Shockley. When Brady was at Michigan he shared QB time. Let’s face it. Brady is a one in a million story that every team would love to have happen to them. Players on the Patriots buy into BB’s system and structure. It is the model for the league. Their ability to draft well, reconize talent that other teams do not is amazing. Yes, Tom Brady’s mechanics are flawless but he would be the first to tell you he cannot do anything without a good O line, defense, and special teams. How long do you think MeAngelo would last in BB’s system. I give him a week maybe two. You just don’t see all the undisciplined BS that the Falcons and other teams display. That comes from BB not Brady. Case in point is Randy Moss. He knew from day one the bar was much higher in New England than in Oakland. Teams have won the Super Bowl without a great QB. It’s no different than what separates the SEC vs other conferences. It’s not the speed. It’s the quality of coaching.
By Marie
January 18, 2008 7:55 AM | Link to this
The AJC should get rid of Terrance Moore and hire David Deas; his response to Terrance’s nonsensical rant was GREAT. As so many folks have said to you before TM — GET A LIFE!!!
You should go to the same church in VA that Vick was attending to have them “holla the demons” out of you. Maybe then you can start making sense and stop taking more positions than the Sugarloaf Madam!!!
By Miranda
January 18, 2008 7:58 AM | Link to this
Wow….I thought this was gonna be kinda stupid from the title…I was wrong….this was stupefying….I will never get that minute back.
By Big Ed
January 18, 2008 8:18 AM | Link to this
I will be very interested to see what Terrance has to say about Tony Dungee if he retires next Monday. According to TM, Peyton Manning is the only reason Dungee kept his job. What say you Terrance.
By Kappaman
January 18, 2008 8:20 AM | Link to this
You make some great points Terrance. It makes you go huhhhhh. It is a shame that we have to end up with a guy like Dimitroff. We were probably the only team that even considered him for such a position. We will probably end up with an unproven coach just like we have an unproven GM. Nobody of note wants any part of this Atlanta situation.
By Brian Hunt
January 18, 2008 8:33 AM | Link to this
Another accurate assessment from Mr. Moore. I don’t understand all of the venom and animosity from people who read these columns. The Falcons have never had back to back winning seasons in their 50+ year history, and loose far more often than they win, but y’all consider Terrance Moore to be the problem? He hasn’t whiffed on a draft pick or a tackle the way the Falcons often do. If he writes something less than glowing about the team the odds are in his favor that it’s accurate. It is the job of the Falcons organization to give him something positive to write about by earning it. Soo many people complaining about TM, but sooo many empty seats at the Dome. Put your money and support where your mouth is.
By NCBravesFan
January 18, 2008 8:33 AM | Link to this
Totally false premise. If Dimitroff is overmatched as a GM and gets fired after 3 years, but the Falcons draft well and become a contender … do you really think his tenure will be viewed as a complete failure, and the Falcons no better off than they are today?
Also, if the Falcons traded for Brady, they would still not be a contender - Brady’s weaknesses as a player would be laid bare by the lack of offensive talent currently on the team.
By Sickfan
January 18, 2008 8:42 AM | Link to this
That was great. According to TM, Romeo Crennel is the only guy on the Patriots staff who deserved a head coaching job. Let’s see - wasn’t Crennel a D coordinator, and wasn’t the the browns’ D one of the worst in the league. Also if I am not mistaken the reason the browns were good this year was because of the “lucky” emergence of Derek Anderson - a later round draft choice. Sound familiar. Now the falcons should trade for Derek Anderson immediately… And he is actually available. (BTW, there are lots of capable QBs in the league - its just a matter of recognizing them. The only reaons Brady got his chance so early was because Bledsoe got injured. In Atlanta it was clear that Herrington and Leftwish sucked, but Redman didn’t get to play until Week 13. Why? Stupid coaching staff. This is the same coching staff that played Warrick Dunn instead of Jerious “7 yards per carry” Norwood - but I digress.
By Howard
January 18, 2008 9:26 AM | Link to this
Terence…enjoyed another one of your columns…that might be a first for me. Anyway…I think it was former Georgia Tech coach Pepper Rogers that said talent was about 70% of the success of a football program…regardless of who was the coach. The other 30% he stated was the team’s schedule. You were right about Tom Brady…but then again the same thing could have been said about the 49ers without Montana or Young, the Packers without Favre or Starr, the Jets without Namath, the Dolphins without Marino, etc. At advanced stages of football, esp. the NFL…the quarterback does make the coach and the team. I would love to see Bill Billi-cheat come down and coach the Dolphins or the Falcons and see what a “genius” he would be called in about three or four years on the job at those locales.
By mickey
January 18, 2008 9:30 AM | Link to this
You are still an IDIOT!
By Sachar, Louis
January 18, 2008 9:59 AM | Link to this
Do you Terrence haters ever read before you show your ignorance. He is actually saying what you are saying. The QB makes the team what it is. Who else touches the ball on every offensive play. Of course you need other players to make the team function. But no one affects the outcome of a game more than the QB. Look what happened to the Falcons without Vick. They would have been in the playoffs if they had an OL and an offensive coordinator that knew how to utilze his talents.
By What is your deal with Atlanta?
January 18, 2008 10:02 AM | Link to this
TM Your a classless idiot. WHY do you have a job. Please go back to writing for the Black Panthers. You Absolute racist bigot. I am so sick and tired of reading your crap. But I try to read ALL articles about my Falcons. Unfortunatly, yours is one of them. Please save us all some time and go away. What one the field experience do you have? Other than race baiting the readers of Atlanta.
By free mike vick
January 18, 2008 10:03 AM | Link to this
I hate to admit to agreeing with Mr Moore but I do. Not just quaterback but star players in general can make or break GM’s and Coaches. This is why Garret wasnt the best choice for the falcons either. If it wasnt for Romo and TO do you think Garret would have been considered for any position?
By michaelgee
January 18, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this
So what you have finally decided is that the Falcons must draft a white QB to be successful?
You mentioned Tom Brady and Derek Anderson making those teams GREAT, making their coaches GREAT.
You gave a white QB all of the credit above everything else??
So is this your way of saying that a white Qb will save this franchise, while avoiding saying that the past QB brought us to our present state??
Your racial flip flopping is laughable
By Tuggle fan
January 18, 2008 10:04 AM | Link to this
I thought the reason for hiring new coaches and GM’S,was for who they worked for and learned from in the past no for what they have already done.Dimitroff Learned from the best ,now give him a chance to use what he learned from the pats.
By dcrigs
January 18, 2008 10:13 AM | Link to this
Moore, you’re a joke, no one likes you, your columns are crap
By terence moore sux
January 18, 2008 10:14 AM | Link to this
Although Dimitroff is highly unproven, looking at Pat’s drafts since his tenure, not including the skill players there, include Dan Koppen, Matt Light, and Logan Mankins. How did those guys turn out? I think our transition to the zone blocking scheme and a de-emphasis on drafting linemen high is what ultimately led to our current situation. NO HOF QB could ever throw from our pocket. We don’t have one!! As long as you get some talented big uglies up front, I’ll be happy!!
By Pat
January 18, 2008 10:24 AM | Link to this
Same logic holds for the previous failures in Atlanta, the QB position. Can you spell V I C K for starters?
By Maj
January 18, 2008 10:26 AM | Link to this
I didn’t read your whole column, didn’t bother for the obvious headline it has. TM you are an idiot. What team doesn’t need a QB like Tom. Better yet, we need the O line NE has ya’ moron. AJC, please get rid of this turd.
By #7@ATL
January 18, 2008 10:48 AM | Link to this
we already have a QB His name is M ike Vick. There are n o more Tom Brady out there . Why kind of nut would cut a 3Time pro Bowler and he is aLL ready paid for and is a winner only Atlanta and under 30. Yes you can still can draft a QB but not 1th round. we need a line and Vick is the only QB that would hold up with no line.
we need offense linemen a running back and a middle line backer in this draft. I am a season ticket holder. I want to win and 1700+ bucks for ticket to lose for 5 more years .
Vick is the best talanted player you got for the next five year.
Don’t be no fool because of hate. Hate don’t win ball game talant does! T.moore you are a loser man! Get a job with ESPN please!
By D
January 18, 2008 11:01 AM | Link to this
exactly! no more running QB’s, no more college QB’s, and it doesn’t matter where somebody went to school, either, and that means you DJ. Joe Montana looked like an accountant, but he would stand in the pocket a little longer, knowing he was going to get hit, to get that ball where it needed to be and when it needed to get there. we need a QB that doesn’t get happy feet everytime they hear a twig snap in the distance! and everybody thinks something is great, lookout! and then remember where Tom Brady was selected in the draft.
By Darrin "The vent King"
January 18, 2008 11:02 AM | Link to this
There we go, I knew it wouldn’t be long before you cast your negativity on the Falcon’s GM choice. Goodness, you’re as predictable as a fire following a lightning strike at an ACME fireworks plant. LOL
By Eric
January 18, 2008 11:09 AM | Link to this
#7@ATL - Was your post a joke?
By Keeping It Real
January 18, 2008 11:10 AM | Link to this
It is most interesting to see racist calling Terrence a racist when his article did not mention race. I thought that only black people interjected the race card. LOL
By Honky
January 18, 2008 11:15 AM | Link to this
good point. let’s think about this, do we need a white qb? well a white qb doesn’t need street cred. doesn’t need a posse. doesn’t have to prove he’s a man all the time. doesn’t get disrespected at the drop of a hat(by the way, a real man isn’t so sensitive to allow himself to be disrespected so easily). doesn’t have to showboat and beat his chest and dance like a fool. doesn’t always have to be the highest paid player in their position(once again, back to the ‘oh my God, I’m being disrespected’ thing again), not only that but the white qb is able to renegotiate their contracts LOWER, to allow more cap room and to be surrounded with better players in every position. good point, maybe we do need a white qb.
By Country Ham
January 18, 2008 11:18 AM | Link to this
Good piece T.M., although some of your readers are ridiculous! Furman could have written the same article and it would have been kudos all around! Anyway, I’m not sold on Josh Mcdaniels particularly, and we’ll just have to wait and see about “Thomas.” But please folks, no more talk of Dan Reeves. All it takes is for a tight end to be drafted to be reminded of that tenure!!
By WarParty
January 18, 2008 11:41 AM | Link to this
Good column, Terence. First and foremost, the bell-cow position in the NFL is the QB.
If the Dimitroff era is to be successful as we all hope, it’s an absolute lock the Falcons will be drafting the QB position in the upcoming 2008 pick-fest.
Perhaps, drafting more than one?
By Anti T. Moore
January 18, 2008 11:42 AM | Link to this
T. Moore is a Atlanta Urinal & Constipation Whor_ . He is a lacky of the far RACIST LEFT. Should be on your biased editorial page instead of Sports; which he knows nothing about. Now, I’m sure he is a nice guy but he has no BRAIN!
By doobird
January 18, 2008 11:43 AM | Link to this
Everyone (including myself) is an idiot for even posting on these stupid blogs. All it allows is a way to release our pent-up frustrations … no one cares what I think or what you think … we just like to scream (in print) our failures and take it out on some sports figure. Now, does that make anyone feel better???????????
By ck
January 18, 2008 11:53 AM | Link to this
I’ve already had enough of the Falcons talk and I’m ready fro The Braves. Why not talk about teh trade the braves made for the lefthander Richmond and resigning of Tex for another year. This is huge for Atlanta, the Braves and for Wren. i am getting a very positive fell for this new GM of the Braves and I like what I see so far. As for the Braves as long as we can keep Santana away from the Mets we should be right in the mix all year. Anyone else wanna stop the talk about the Pats and falcons and move to something positive?
At least no one will have to talk about Reeves again… I could just scream for all the talk about the past.
But since it was mentioned I do have a thought concerning the Falcons… What if the new coach installs Shock as the QB and gets the team used to the ViCK kind of qb then when Vick gets released he can step back in and get this team back on track since he has received the blame for its demise. After all he will have paid his debt to society and will be free come next Dec if all goes well in rehab.
By T.C
January 18, 2008 11:58 AM | Link to this
terence moore i know you know the real reason people slam you as a columnist,they just follow the first persons comments.you dont have your position for nothing and even i sometimes go against your comments.but what i stated at the beginning is true and the other part is just plain hatred.i beleave a man has a right to his opinnion just like they post.truth is they dont even have to post a comment on your column but they do,hmmmm i wonder why? hatred.
By JustWinBaby
January 18, 2008 12:02 PM | Link to this
Just get us an O-Line and MVick and we’re winners again, The rest of y’all can go to HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!! I’ve seen all kinds of GMs and Coaches come to the ATL and What — Right — Now You Know. How many more months VICK.
By NoMoore
January 18, 2008 12:11 PM | Link to this
What an unremarkable column. According to TM, Romeo was the only real gifted opportunist in the bunch. Go drive your RACE CARd somewhere else TM.
By MikeJ
January 18, 2008 12:21 PM | Link to this
How predictable-Anybody the Falcons hire is garbage, of course.
Dude- why don’t you slide off your barstool long enough to actually go TALK to the Falcons management, and then-report on it - you know, like a REPORTER?
By Jako
January 18, 2008 12:42 PM | Link to this
I think the next opinion poll on “The View” should postulate on these thoughts regarding TM: MR. MOORE- Is a genius and always right. Is an average reporter. Is seldom if ever correct. Needs to move on to another occupation.
By Blaze
January 18, 2008 12:44 PM | Link to this
Just another episode of the ‘MOORE FACTOR’
What you’re saying has some validity but why do you always take a negative approach to your blogs? Dimitroff was a good hire in my opinion…..let’s give him a chance to prosper & not fail him before he gets a chance!!!!
By Tom Brady
January 18, 2008 12:45 PM | Link to this
Mr. Moore, What have you written before today that has these people all riled up? You don’t seem to be well liked. btw I think you are great. Tom
By A Falcons fan walks into a bar. . . .
January 18, 2008 12:49 PM | Link to this
Good idea Terrance. Why don’t you recommend that the Hawks draft a Michael Jordan as well? Where have you been this whole time? Did this revelation wake you in the night? Also, did you ever consider Brady’s record without Belichick?
By jrod
January 18, 2008 1:00 PM | Link to this
I agree with #7@ATL
I DO NOT want a qb in the first round. I would rather wait another year until vick is eligible. We really need o-line help, help at the skill positions, plus the defense is getting long in the tooth. I dont get this get rid of vick. You can draft another young qb but cutting him is stupid.
This year proved there is no talent on this team. So why draft a qb who cant play right away and that would get killed if he did play behind this o-line, when you need help at so many position. I think hatred for vick is clouding what he did for this team, which is cover up up the fact that this is one of the least tlaented teams in the NFL.
We all agree he was stupid to be involved in dogfifhting and I am not suggesting not having other options, but I do suggest not holding your breath on getting another Tom Brady. The grass is not always greener. Case in point 2007 Atlanta Falcons
By Keeping It Real
January 18, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this
For the guy who brought Manning and Dungy into the discussion, you are absolutely correct. Dungy does owe his exixtence in Indy to Manning. The same will be true when Caldwell becomes coach. See how easy it is to agree with Terrence on something.
By Keeping It Real
January 18, 2008 1:13 PM | Link to this
For the guy who brought Manning and Dungy into the discussion, you are absolutely correct. Dungy does owe his exixtence in Indy to Manning. The same will be true when Caldwell becomes coach. See how easy it is to agree with Terrence on something.
By Najeh Davenpoop
January 18, 2008 1:29 PM | Link to this
I don’t think anyone understood the point of this article.
Terence Moore was talking about Brady carrying coaches (and GMs) because of how it relates to the Falcons. Tom Dimitroff is the new GM of the Falcons — Moore is questioning whether he is actually good or if he’s just successful because Brady makes the rest of the players better. Patriots’ offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels is one of the leading candidates to take over the Falcons’ job, and Moore is making his case against McDaniels being hired. He didn’t do a great job of making this point, but that’s the point he’s making.
Instead, all the usual racists come here talking about Moore being an affirmative action hire, swinging wildly from topic to topic, everything from the Hawks, to Peyton Manning, to of course #7.
Try reading the article before posting next time.
And yes, the Falcons should bring back Michael Vick.
By jrod
January 18, 2008 1:31 PM | Link to this
To Honky,
How much street cred does Mcnabb or Garrard need? maybe the fact that blacks feel disrespected is because anywhere in the south you can see whites openly honoring the slavery of blacks with those pro-slavery confederate flags. Or maybe it has to do with the fact that it seems a majority of whites (not all) get alot more upset when dogs are harmed than when blacks are harmed and threatened (Jena 6).
But I get your overall point which is most blacks players more than whites bring drama with them. However you cant generalize all blacks no more than blacks can say all whites are racist. Also if you dont like the type of black players coming out then help fix what america broke. Also when you come from some of the poorest nieghborhoods in america money means alot to you.
By ddog
January 18, 2008 1:33 PM | Link to this
Insert offensive line where ever it says Brady. Any QB would be great with that line
By terrance is a racist
January 18, 2008 1:40 PM | Link to this
you like how terrence steered off his own topic of how brady’s the man to throw his racial propoganda in there about how mangini was white and got hired at 34, but crennel had to wait till 58 because he was black? do us all a favor terrance, and hang yourself.
By mikejones
January 18, 2008 1:48 PM | Link to this
Your a retard.
Terence Mathis for GM……
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!
You gotta have pictures of the AJC’s editor’s son humping a goat.
By Tuggle fan
January 18, 2008 1:56 PM | Link to this
everyone knows that VICK is not the answer,Find a QB through the draft or free agency ans start finding a good “O” line and work on the defense.We need montie kiffin as our “D” Coach.We are all Falcon fans and are just discusted with this past year.Lets put the race issue to bed.Who cares if the QB ,coach or whom ever is White ,black ,Green or blue ,I just want a team that is a consisitent winner and bring alittle respect back to our TEAM.Go Falcons,Braves &UGA.
By Neckville rednecks
January 18, 2008 2:22 PM | Link to this
Tuggle fan vick is more than this team will every need . Even if you get Tom Brady with this line he would get killed. Vick Has never hah a line and oh boy when he does he will be a killer. 20TD passing 2TD rushing 1029 rushing with no Talant in 2006. we had three QB 2 frist rounder and a super sub and they could not put up half of vick number.
you people know he is the best talant they have and can get who is better they can get who? not in the draft this year.
You clowns are a real NUT case ,Hate has you clown all mess up! Vick still the man bar none and I am a season ticket holder
By Falcon
January 18, 2008 2:41 PM | Link to this
Does that make Brady an Assistant Coach Killer? Just wondering.
By Nechville Rednecks
January 18, 2008 2:56 PM | Link to this
Davenpoop you are right Brady is carryed that team and we don’t have a Tom Brady. But we have 3 QB on this years team and and they prove how they are. People say draft a QB like you can go to wall mart and get a good one . But as a Fan that buys ticket hope he work out for the team sake! And even a Free agent who is out there worth a dime and can play with this offense line. You know hate make people a fool !
The best talant we can put our hands on is Vick don’t be a hate fool Talant wins all day long! he is already paid for!
And the more I read This Gm may not be what we think he is , but Blank gave him a chance time will tell . We may have fools gold! But hope ..
By Gunner
January 18, 2008 3:04 PM | Link to this
I don’t think enough attention is given to the fact that Brady graduated Cum Laude. It’s his head that makes him so great, not his arm. BTW, I graduated Magna Cum Laude so I could be prejudice.
By JD
January 18, 2008 3:15 PM | Link to this
Terrance, your comments goes a long way with me, keep telling the truth about the falcons, Blank and McKay needs to let the new GM do his job, and just stand back and watch, He came from a successful team and know how it should be done, and Blank needs to get rid of McKay he has failed him once by not checking the back ground of the last coach, even i found that out his back within 10minutes, come on Mr Blank you are smarter than that.
By JD
January 18, 2008 3:16 PM | Link to this
Terrance, your comments goes a long way with me, keep telling the truth about the falcons, Blank and McKay needs to let the new GM do his job, and just stand back and watch, He came from a successful team and know how it should be done, and Blank needs to get rid of McKay he has failed him once by not checking the back ground of the last coach, even i found that out his background within 10minutes, come on Mr Blank you are smarter than that.
By eatapeach
January 18, 2008 3:22 PM | Link to this
I knew it was coming. TM is the most negative writer I’ve ever seen. Oh yeah, he wrote something serious suggesting Blank consider Terrance Mathis. Is this the only thing you could come up with. Someone had to see Brady’s potential in drafting him in 6th round. May not have been Dimitroff, but at least he has worked with those that did. You are a joke TM>
By JD
January 18, 2008 3:30 PM | Link to this
Tuggle fan, you are crazy vick was not the best thing that happen to the falcons, you meant the falcons was the best thing that happen to vick, he should have never lied about when Blank asked him about dog fighting, vick needs to learn that he needs to own up to his past and grow up and take responsibility about his life, the truth is vick was not a good quarterback, infact he was a good entertainer for the fans that’s all he was. Vick will never be a good quarterback, one man does not make a team.
By Black Panther
January 18, 2008 3:31 PM | Link to this
PEOPLE, PLEASE LISTEN!! IF YOU WANT TO SEE TERENCE MOORE REMOVED, JUST IGNORE HIS BLOGS. THE AJC TELLS HIM WHAT TO WRITE JUST TO GET EVERYONE RILED UP AND BLOG IN. THIS MAKES THEM MONEY AND PROBABLY GETS TERENCE A BONUS. HE IS A DEACON AT ANTIOCH CHURCH LOCATED IN DOWNTOWN ATL. I HAVE SPOKEN WITH HIM ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS. HE ISN’T WHAT HE PORTRAYS HIMSELF TO BE ON THIS BLOG. THIS IS HIS JOB!! THE AJC TELLS HIM TO WRITE RACIALLY MOTIVATED ARTICLES SO THAT IT GETS EVRYONE UP IN ARMS. THEY COULDN’T GET THE OTHER WHITE COLUMNISTS TO SAY THESE THINGS BECAUSE THEN THEY WOULD GET ACCUSED OF RACISM. SO THEY GET GOOD OL TERENCE TO SAY THEM SINCE HE IS BLACK. STOP FEEDING INTO THIS CRAP AND JUST IGNORE HIS BLOGS. ONCE HE NO LONGER GETS RESPONSES, HE WILL BE REMOVED!!
By Josh
January 18, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this
The Falcons would be better off trading for Tom Brady’s offensive line.
By Keeping It Real
January 18, 2008 3:47 PM | Link to this
All we need is Vick, an offensive line and a fan base who places people over dawgs.
By Keeping It Real
January 18, 2008 4:02 PM | Link to this
Black Panther,
You know that Terence is not playing the race card. All he has to do is say boo and the yahoos come out. We need him here in Atlanta to keeo it real. Are you wearing your sheet to dinner tonight? LOL.
By Danny
January 18, 2008 4:24 PM | Link to this
Dimitroff can solve a lot of problems by retaining MV7. As evidenced by this year’s team, Vick carried the Falcons on his back for the past few seasons. The only difference between Brayd and Vick is Brady was surrounded by a good OL, good defensne and great coach. If Dimitroff brings those things to ATL, MV7 will be as successful, if not more successful than Brady.
By Honky
January 18, 2008 5:01 PM | Link to this
Doug Williams, excellent QB, a NFL QB! Mike Vick, well he should be playing in a wishbone offense, trouble is…those are mostly run in military colleges, with his lack of discipline and maturity, he wouldn’t last there a week. he’ll come out of prison more mature and more humble, but her won’t come straight back to the NFL as a QB. he’ll be put on the roster as a 3rd string at first, special teams, flanker for passes and reverses, but for him to take the leadership of another team that’s going to be hard. he’ll only make there if he’s willing to work up to it, he’llhave to earn everything all over again. if he’s not willing to do that, they’ll black ball him, or African-American ball him or whatever. don’t see Mike making it back to a starting NFL QB. there’s still the Arena League and the CFL, GO Roughriders, Eh!
By Nein Der Vick!
January 18, 2008 5:07 PM | Link to this
taking one brick out at a stragetic spot on an already crumbling wall doesn’t necessarily make that brick the cause for the wall falling. ref: Mike Vick if you want to hire another college coach that runs the option offense, than Vick’s your man! but otherwise, it looks like Mr. Moore has over-stated the obvious.
By David Duke
January 18, 2008 6:23 PM | Link to this
New England isn’t full of genius types. Brady was drafted in the sixth round. had they known this was a guy who would win three Super Bowls, already and probably more in the future, they would have taken him in the first round. The fact is that had Bledsoe not been injured, almost killed in a game, Brady would not have played that rookie season. The Patriots got lucky, extremely so, and now it’s viewed as intrepidity. It was luck! There’s always the element of luck in selecting players and New England got lucky. That does not in any way mean that due diligence was not adhered to. It just means that Brady’s talent far exceeded what the scouts evaluated it to be. Atlanta hasn’t been so lucky but then Atlanta hasn’t ever been as diligent, nor as focused as New England has been the past few years.
By neckville rednecks
January 18, 2008 6:30 PM | Link to this
ATLANTA IF YOU RELLY WANT TO WIN KEEP VICK. SNOW BOARDING GM GET A OFFENSE LINE AND A GOOD RUNNING BACK. AND A DEFENSE THAT IF YOU WANT TO WIN. NOW IF YOU ARE DREAMING OF TOM BRADY KEEP DREAMING. I WANT TO WIN . I WANT THE BEST PLAYERS TO PLAY. WE HAVE ONE OF THE BEST PLAYER IN THE GAME . TIME OUT FOR HATE AND BEING A FOOL. AS FOR AS BEING A SAINT VICK IS NOT 99.9 OF THE REST OF US IS OF US FALL WAY SHORT TOO. oNE THING WE DO KNOW WHO EVER IS QB NEED A GOOD OFFENSE. MCKAY WAS CLUELESS ON GETTING OFENSE LINEMEN. I SAY DRAFT A STAR RUNNING BACK OFFENSE LINEMEN AND A RUNNING BACK AND A MIDDLE LINE BACKER . SNOW BOARD GM SHOW TIME!!!
By neckville rednecks
January 18, 2008 6:33 PM | Link to this
DAVID D YOU ARE RIGHT!
By Rod
January 18, 2008 6:51 PM | Link to this
We need Tom Bradys offensive line and go DJ Shockley.
By JimDawg
January 18, 2008 8:04 PM | Link to this
It is too bad the AJC didn’t move as slowly as the Falcons when they hired their sports know-it-all; if they had, we wouldn’t constantly be exposed to Moore’s stupid dribble….
By Falcon
January 18, 2008 8:07 PM | Link to this
David Duke- are you writing your comments from Federal Prison?
By saint
January 18, 2008 9:13 PM | Link to this
David Duke: drafting Brady at 166 or so was not so much intrepidity (boldness), but serendipity (the faculty of making fortunate and unexpected discoveries by accident). No QB can survive the pounding resulting from a weak OL. Redman has done remarkably with a weak line, so imagine what he could do with a great one, and with a great running back. How about a kicker who consistently puts it 8 yds into the endzone…so we don’t have to start our defense on the 35 yrd line.
By joebrave
January 19, 2008 12:13 AM | Link to this
Listen up People,Mike Guddam Vick is NOT coming Back here!!! I am about to polish my boot with somebody’s @ss!!!I’m Tired of hearing about Ol Yeller killa!!!!! Phuck Mike Prick!!!He is a Worthless No Quarterbacking Scumbitch!!!!!
Got It Get It Good!!!!!
By David Duke
January 19, 2008 12:13 AM | Link to this
serendipitous and epiphanic after the fact. That’s exactly my point! Luck! The Falcons need some of it but luck seems to favor those who prepare with industry and with great forethought. If that happens here it will be the first time in forty-two years.
By joebrave
January 19, 2008 12:18 AM | Link to this
Meet your New Falcons Q.B. John David Booty!!! and Yes Poosie,You bleeds Know what that is,Get Used to the Color Vanilla Ice Ice BABY!!!!!
By joebrave
January 19, 2008 12:25 AM | Link to this
Oh,and Neckville,You illeterate little troll Season Ticket Holder my@ss!!! If you’re so hard up for MV7,look no further that Nashville,Tennessee,the Titans have a MV7 clone that is Destroying Their Team as well….His Name Vince (I don’t know what the He11 I’m Doing) Yooung!!!!!
Go be a Titan Fan little poachmonkey!!!!!