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DEL.ICIO.USBCS a shipwreck of a system
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Mark Bradley
So much for that claim about how every week in college football constitutes a one-game playoff. If you’re LSU, you’re allowed to play a triple-elimination tournament. If you’re LSU, you’re allowed to flub two auditions as No. 1 and still have people say, “That team deserves another chance.”
We’ve known for years that the BCS is a sham of an arrangement. (To call it a “system” confers far too much dignity.) What we didn’t grasp until Sunday was that the BCS is devoid of rules, devoid of reason, devoid even of common courtesy.
Georgia got jumped without losing a game or even playing one. LSU was hoisted above the Bulldogs on the dubious strength of a seven-point victory in a game it was favored to win by 7 1/2 points. Georgia was No. 4 in the BCS standings last week — LSU was No. 7 — and two of the top three teams lost. Simple math should have put the Bulldogs in the title game. Turns out the BCS flunked math as well as logic.
What happened over the course of a week to make enough voters devalue the Bulldogs? Lobbyin’ Les Miles and ESPN happened. The LSU coach opined that a team shouldn’t play for a national title if it hadn’t won its conference — even though the BCS has repeatedly resisted making a league title a requirement — and a slew of cable-ready gasbags bought his line. It was known nine days ago that the Bulldogs wouldn’t be playing for the SEC title, but eight days ago the voters didn’t seem to mind. Came the only BCS poll that matters, they minded.
All night Saturday and into Sunday we were treated to ESPN’s nattering nabobs insisting Georgia couldn’t be considered for the BCS title game because it didn’t win its conference. (Said Mark Richt: “We were unofficially disqualified.”) Some of those same voices also claimed the Bulldogs didn’t win their division. Let the record show that Georgia was co-champion of the SEC East.
Alas, too many people — BCS voters obviously among them — believe only what they hear on television. Even Mike Slive, the BCS coordinator and SEC commissioner, admitted Sunday night that the BCS might need to educate its electorate. “That’s a good question, and it’s one I will take to the table in April,” he said. “We might need to say, ‘These are fundamental principles and concepts we expect our voters to think about.’ “
Georgia could and should have been considered. Georgia could and should be playing Ohio State. Instead it’s LSU, which has had more reprieves than Liz Taylor has had husbands. Instead it’s the team that managed one offensive touchdown against Tennessee and needed a late interception return to find the winning points.
The criteria for entrance to the BCS title game shift with the winds and the seasons. There was a time when the idea was to pair the best teams. At this moment, Georgia is the nation’s best team. And if you’re saying, “Georgia lacks LSU’s body of work,” are we to believe 10-2 is appreciably different from 11-2? Each beat Florida, Auburn and Alabama. Georgia beat Kentucky, which beat LSU. LSU beat Tennessee and South Carolina, which beat Georgia.
Here’s the difference: Since losing at Tennessee on Oct. 6, Georgia has moved ever upward, while LSU has wobbled all over creation. LSU has lost twice since Georgia lost last, and both of the Tigers’ losses came when they were ranked No. 1. The Bulldogs haven’t been, and won’t be, granted the chance to prove they’re No. 1 or even No. 2, but the fierce belief here is that they would beat anybody — LSU, Ohio State, Southern Cal, Oklahoma — on a neutral field.
What happened to the Bulldogs is worse than what befell Auburn in 2004. Those Tigers went unbeaten but were barred from the BCS championship game because Southern Cal and Oklahoma started the season Nos. 1 and 2 and didn’t lose. At least there was numeric consistency to that snub. Four years later Georgia climbed to No. 4 but somehow fell to No. 5 in final BCS standings while No. 7 bounded all the way to No. 2.
Yes, it’s amazing — an amazing disgrace.
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By Adam
December 2, 2007 8:40 PM | Link to this
Georgia didn’t win their conference. Enough said.
By HA HA UGAG SUCKS
December 2, 2007 8:42 PM | Link to this
Bradley= LAME HOMER!
GO HAWAI’I!
UGA GOT the SHAFT!!!!
I LOVE IT!
By Remember last year!
December 2, 2007 8:42 PM | Link to this
Crying WON’T get it done. I noticed last year when Fla jumped #2 Michigan there was no uproar from the SEC, so remember what goes around comes around and enjoy playing that oooohhhh so toouuggghhh Hawaii team - wow, what a real test of the SEC strength!
By Stephen--Dalton Dawg
December 2, 2007 8:42 PM | Link to this
Funny…we were #4 and the voters KNEW we hadnt won, then when others lost, what we accomplished was out the window. BcS anyway, Go dawgs, and we are springboarding into 2008…Go dawgs
By First
December 2, 2007 8:42 PM | Link to this
Heck yeah!
By Dawgs_Fan
December 2, 2007 8:42 PM | Link to this
If you would have asked any Dawg fan at the beginning of the season if Georgia would play in a BCS Bowl game I think the answer would have been no. Georgia will handle Hawaii in the Sugar Bowl and when the pre-season numbers come out next year Georgia will start at #1 and stay there.
By Leslie Miles
December 2, 2007 8:42 PM | Link to this
LSU did what UGA couldn’t - beat Tennessee.
Where is the BCS rule that disallowed coaches and voters in the Harris Poll from reassessing things every week?
UGA is a bunch of crybabies. You wanna play for all the marbles, don’t lose at home to a team that lost 6 times…losers!
By TampaGator
December 2, 2007 8:43 PM | Link to this
Unlike pro baseball, in college football, only champions get the opportunity to play for championships. Georgia was the 3rd best team in the SEC. Why should they play for the National Title? Win the SEC and you go…period. And you should…and, this year, it is LSU. PERIOD.
By gt lover
December 2, 2007 8:43 PM | Link to this
stop your whining uga people you suck and your overated, maybe win a few championships and get up there with the big boys like gt,ohio.st,lsu,alabama,nd,usc…teams like that that have tridition and have won the big game
By jeff
December 2, 2007 8:44 PM | Link to this
We need a playoff system
By Steve Spurrier
December 2, 2007 8:44 PM | Link to this
I just heard that Coach Richt and his pups have been invited to be the halftime entertainment at the championship game!! He will wear all black and dance to Soulja Boy, and then the whole team will run onto the stage to celebrate and they will rip his shirt and reveal his nipple!!!!
By dawgs
December 2, 2007 8:44 PM | Link to this
Ich bin ein Buckeye! Screw the BCS and screw LSU.
By michaelgee
December 2, 2007 8:44 PM | Link to this
Somewhere in South Carolina tonight, Steve Spurrier is laughing his arse off
Cry dawgies, cry!
By Duston
December 2, 2007 8:44 PM | Link to this
WE GOT SCREWED!!!!!! Hawaii, prepare for some Angry Dawgs in NO on the 1st!!! We will welcome them to the real world of college football.
By LSU #1
December 2, 2007 8:45 PM | Link to this
Want a nice slice of cheddar to go with your Whine????? LSU would have mopped the floor with the Dawgs!!! Go LSU Beat OSU!!!
By WhatDidYouExpect?
December 2, 2007 8:45 PM | Link to this
Come on, what did you expect? A system set up by “experts” like sports writers and you expect to not have controversy?
BAA HAA HAA HAA!
By John A. Silbernagel
December 2, 2007 8:45 PM | Link to this
Sour Grapes!
By VolMBAer
December 2, 2007 8:45 PM | Link to this
Congrats on going to the Sugar. You didn’t get the shaft, while there is no rule you have to win your conference in order to play for the Nat’l Title, you should have to. You didn’t even win your division, you can say your better now than you were then, and you are, but you WERE NOT the 2nd best team in the SEC, much less the best. Enjoy the Sugar, your certainly in a much better game than Tennessee is.
Oh and for all you UGA homers saying Tennessee is crap…your morons. As dumb as they come. You got your butt kicked on Oct 6. and you WOULD NOT win against us now either. So shut up, be happy with where you are.
Oh one more note, all this “TENNESSEE got lucky in all of it’s last games” let me remind you of the Vandy game you guys had, lucked saved your season too. So shut the hell up.
By buzzkiller
December 2, 2007 8:45 PM | Link to this
Bark, You are predictable as a clock. One day, you will get over your mancrush on the Rev. Richt, but I doubt it will be anytime soon. Until then, you’ll just have to pine for him from a distance. There is no difference from a talking head on TV and you…….both are void of real intelligence. Oh well, you can go ahead and start polishing your preseason column for next year when you annoint the Bulldogs the best team in the history of football. Get to work!
By scott
December 2, 2007 8:45 PM | Link to this
Cry me a river. GA should have beat TN!
By mcdawg
December 2, 2007 8:45 PM | Link to this
i’m with you-but hope we take out the frustration on hawaii—lsu does not look like a BCS champion—hope we do not loose focus
By jerome
December 2, 2007 8:45 PM | Link to this
Give me a break, Mark. Your homering/pandering is embarassing. No objective person who knows football could think that the Mutts are one of the best two teams in the country. Give it a rest and buy your ticket to that “other” game in New Orleans.
By Matthew Sanders
December 2, 2007 8:45 PM | Link to this
Yeah, we did get the shaft. For LSU to leap so far up in the polls is so ludicrous it’s almost suspicious.
BUT, that doesn’t matter. We still got a GREAT BOWL…GO DAWGS
By Mike in 'Fretta
December 2, 2007 8:46 PM | Link to this
All of a sudden I just don’t care anymore. Could there be a less inspiring match-up than facing Hawaii in the Sugar Bowl? The Rainbow Warriors? I think I just threw up a little in my mouth.
Who cares about this game? It is meaningless. I am so sick of the BCS.
By Villa Rica DAWG
December 2, 2007 8:46 PM | Link to this
Obviously, the rankings are meaningful only until what “the powers that be” doesn’t want to happen happens…
I recall seeing a quote from some BCS official that said #1 and #2 falling and UGA going to the Title Game would be a “nightmare scenario” for the BCS “system.” I guess they had to make sure that didn’t happen.
All I have to say is that the first person to poke at me about this will likely be the last.
I am pi$$ed!!!!!
By gt lover
December 2, 2007 8:46 PM | Link to this
look stop whining,win a couple of national championships you uga rednecks and gain a little tradition and maybe you will gain a little respect
By walter
December 2, 2007 8:46 PM | Link to this
Without a playoff system, any “championship game” in college football is a joke. Computers don’t play games, players. Start with the Top 10 teams and let them play for the championship.
Of course as for Georgia, they didn’t even win the SEC Championship, LSU did. In terms of the SEC, LSU is the champion so I’m not sure how Georgia can play for the “national championship” when they didn’t even with their own conference.
By Brian
December 2, 2007 8:46 PM | Link to this
HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Thank you Mr. Spurrier for helping shut up those mutts earlier this year.
By montanadawg
December 2, 2007 8:46 PM | Link to this
This is terrible. BCS is is in total dissarray. Let’s get ready for the Rainbow warriors.
By TW
December 2, 2007 8:46 PM | Link to this
Mark - why is nobody talking about how VT got screwed? #7 LSU squeeks by a three loss #14 and Jumps #6 VT who blew out a two loss #11?????
Great rebuilding year for the Dawgs.
SC, UGA, OSU, and VT could all beat LSU this weekend.
By John A. Silbernagel
December 2, 2007 8:46 PM | Link to this
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Sour Grapes!
By Tiger_Dan
December 2, 2007 8:47 PM | Link to this
F_ off Mr. Bradley. You are just as nutty and disillusioned as the rest of these puppy chow eaters….Be happy you’re going to New Orleans as well, only a week earlier! Geaux Tigers
By Zach
December 2, 2007 8:47 PM | Link to this
Could not have been said better.
By drave15
December 2, 2007 8:47 PM | Link to this
we are so screwed-screwed! So we beat Hawaii, what did we do? Not much. And if they somehow beat us, we drop like a rock out of the top twenty. Bradley is so right. Maybe a playoff isn’t the answer, but the BCS (Big Crock of Sh*@) is a national disgrace. And by the way, how does a nine and three team get into a big bowl, anyway? Jeez…..
By dawgman
December 2, 2007 8:47 PM | Link to this
It would have been great, but then who among us on Sundat October 7 thought we’d be in the Sugar Bowl? Lets take care of Hawaii and continue to improve!See you in NOLA!
By Dawgs2007
December 2, 2007 8:47 PM | Link to this
The face value for this ticket is $135.00! WOW!!! That is an a*******load to see a cupcake. Don’t we usually schedule teams like this to open the season and to past the time between Fla and Auburn?
Georgia is just not as popular as the other teams in the eyes of the Lords at ESPN. Next year people will take notice after we dismantle LSU.
If you think CMR was fired up this year, wait till you see his drive for next year. The Bulldogs will be mad and the rest of the SEC better watch out.
That is fine. We will play in our stupid bowl and kill those guys. Bring it on!
By Gator Fan
December 2, 2007 8:47 PM | Link to this
Agreed!
By Les
December 2, 2007 8:47 PM | Link to this
AMEN!! I might even have to go for OSU on this one! Probably not though may not even watch.
By First
December 2, 2007 8:47 PM | Link to this
First
By First
December 2, 2007 8:47 PM | Link to this
First?
By Vol4Ever
December 2, 2007 8:47 PM | Link to this
35-14. The gift that keeps on giving. Not only do we OWN the Dogs now and forever more, but our glorious stomping of you ensured you would not get an undeserved (unanimous opinion of real national media, not the AJC homers) shot at the national title.
Looking forward to killing you again in Athens next year. Maybe we can score 60 on you. Ha ha ha ha ha.
By VolMBAer
December 2, 2007 8:47 PM | Link to this
Oh and Mark Bradley…Auburn went undefeated…you are 10-2, your a hack for thinking you got a bigger shaft than they did. Moron.
By Mikey
December 2, 2007 8:47 PM | Link to this
It is an amazing disgrace- but I knew it was coming as soon as the games last night ended and the talking heads began spewing their love for LSU.. I love my dawgs- I’m proud of what they have accomplished this season and look forward to next year..
By gt lover
December 2, 2007 8:48 PM | Link to this
uga geeks you got blown out by tenn. and lsu beat tenn. without there top qb so you really think you could have played with lsu? uhhhhh naaaahhhhhhhh
By SugarSweet
December 2, 2007 8:48 PM | Link to this
Ohio St’s in for another whipping—eventually everyone will figure out the other conferences are weak. UGA vs LSU would be a much better matchup.
By Bluezilla17
December 2, 2007 8:48 PM | Link to this
All I can say is bravo. Well explained. The most important part is where Mr. Bradley points out that until last night, nobody minded that Georgia wasn’t going to play for the SEC title. I can’t blame Les Miles. His lobbying got his team a shot. I also have to feel for Mizzou. Kansas getting the Orange Bowl instead of them might be the biggest travesty of the whole thing.
By HokieFan
December 2, 2007 8:48 PM | Link to this
Georgia got what they deserved, if they would have beaten TN, they would have gone to their Conf Championship. Anyway, with news coming out that UGA is going to be put on real probation (in addition to their self reported violations) they may pull an Auburn next year and go undefeated and have it not count. VT was the team that got the shaft. VT was also ranked higher in the BCS than LSU and VT beat a high ranked team in BC (while LSU beat unranked TN). Grow up doggies, many other teams deserved it more that you.
By camo
December 2, 2007 8:48 PM | Link to this
Excellent - dawgs in a no win situation.
By TCB
December 2, 2007 8:48 PM | Link to this
Mark, you are blithering idiot. Did the AJC tell you to write this baloney to try to boost circulation amongst toothless Dawg fans because people who can actually read are cancelling subscriptions exponentially?
By Justin B
December 2, 2007 8:48 PM | Link to this
You got it.
I just hope UGA mops the floor with Hawaii..and even though I love the SEC, I’d like to see LSU embarrassed.
By Carter
December 2, 2007 8:48 PM | Link to this
LSU had their chance twice and lost. The hottest team in the country is Georgia who has fought to get where they are at. Don’t even get me started on Ohio State. Give me a break. That conference is about as weak as the ACC these days. UGA, USC, and Oklahoma are the 3 best teams in the country right now. What a joke this system is!!
By CJ
December 2, 2007 8:48 PM | Link to this
Oh, shut up! I hope Hawaii rapes your sorry @ss, personally! Geaux back to the DAWG POUND!
By Bob
December 2, 2007 8:48 PM | Link to this
just goes to show you how much the media controls everything. Sure LSU beat tennesee, who beat us. But it wasn’t impressive enough to move from number 7 all the way to number 2. I don’t care who you are, that is some effed up crap.
By Carter
December 2, 2007 8:48 PM | Link to this
LSU had their chance twice and lost. The hottest team in the country is Georgia who has fought to get where they are at. Don’t even get me started on Ohio State. Give me a break. That conference is about as weak as the ACC these days. UGA, USC, and Oklahoma are the 3 best teams in the country right now. What a joke this system is!!
By bull$hit
December 2, 2007 8:48 PM | Link to this
Amen-BCS is a joke
By Herewegoalready
December 2, 2007 8:49 PM | Link to this
Bradley you are full of sh!t J@ck@ss! Georgia didnt make it because they did not deserve it.
By Dan
December 2, 2007 8:49 PM | Link to this
Well said. I agree.
By RT
December 2, 2007 8:49 PM | Link to this
The season is about 12 weeks,not just 6. Your Dogs weren’t good enough over the WHOLE SEASON to play for their conference championship, so quit your bellyaching. Also, as a “journalist” you should know better than to plagiarize Spiro Agnew’s “nattering nabobs” without a footnote.
By CruiserSikes
December 2, 2007 8:49 PM | Link to this
Why rank us ahead of LSU before the SE championship game if you’re only going to rip our hearts out after the game by having LSU jump over us. STUPID
By TybeeDawg2
December 2, 2007 8:49 PM | Link to this
And almost as bad, was the Rose Bowl picking Illinois!!
By Jim
December 2, 2007 8:49 PM | Link to this
How many chances are they going to give LSU, Georgia and LSU were both 6-2 in conference the only difference is LSU plays in the west. So LSU gets to go because of geographical location. We have them circled October 25 2008
By Knowshon Ain't $#!T
December 2, 2007 8:49 PM | Link to this
Stop your whining. Win your division and your conference. Geaux Tigers!
By Joe
December 2, 2007 8:49 PM | Link to this
Huh? So where is it stated that a loss late is worse than a loss earlier? Why doesn’t it make sense that a conference champion should go ahead of the 3rd place (at best) conference team? Why is uga considered the hottest team in the nation, because they did a black out? Because they can dance? Sure they’ve won their recent games but they have hardly been dominant. A pathetic offensive performance agains an ailing Kentucky team then surviving a MEDIOCRE GT team with considerable good fortune. They got throttled by Tennessee who LSU beat and they got their arse kicked by a poor USC team. Give me a break!
By Bulldawgy
December 2, 2007 8:49 PM | Link to this
The BCS is a joke, plain and simple. But, personally, I don’t think a team should play for the national championship if they cannot even win their conference. Question is:
Why LSU over Oklahoma, or USC or West Virginia? They all won their conferences and have two losses.
A joke, plain and simple.
By gt lover
December 2, 2007 8:50 PM | Link to this
call someone who cares like ugga, he stinks and is a nasty dog he might listen wahhhhhhh
By gaDAwg
December 2, 2007 8:50 PM | Link to this
Mark,
Your comments are so true. LSU will give OSU it’s first victory over an SEC team in a bowl. Why? Because lyin Les cried wolf just like Urban did last year. If you watched Les’ body language during the interview when asked about being the LSU coach, he could not look the lady in the eye and he had that sheepish look of I know that I won’t be here on Jan 8.
That’s alright. UGA gets to play the only undefeated team in Div 1 in Hawaii. We beat them and we can claim that we defeated the only previously undefeated team. Also,the dawg nation mark your calendars for Oct. 25th, 2008. That’s when UGA will show LSU losers who deserved to play in the NC.
By bw
December 2, 2007 8:50 PM | Link to this
Thanks, Mark. I absolutely agree. Next year, we’ll probably go undefeated and get voted out by Ohio State or some other team that gets lucky every year because they are in a sub-par conference. I’d love to play LSU the first game of the season next year and blow them out. I haven’t checked the schedule, but I sure hope we get to play LSU!!! I don’t even want to watch another game on ESPN. I think the Dawgs will be a hard team to beat in 2008…..and I look for them to win big in the Sugar Bowl…..GO DAWGS!!!!
By LOWCOUNTRYDAWG
December 2, 2007 8:50 PM | Link to this
I’m still waiting to see if Les Miles is back next year at LSU. Georgia got penalized for not playing this weekend. If we don’t beat Hawaii, then all the media will be saying- see - we were right about Georgia.
By MeatCleaver
December 2, 2007 8:50 PM | Link to this
OSU is a Joke! Dawgs would have killed ‘em, so will LSU.
I am so tired of hearing people say that a team needs to schedule strong out of conference opponents to get the attention of the BCS. OSU just proved that to be crap. Load up on the Kents, Akrons, and Youngstowns of the world.
They were embarassed by the gators last year and had a better team then than they do now.
Dawgs got ripped! I hope LSU wins by 20.
By Bleed Red and Black
December 2, 2007 8:50 PM | Link to this
I am very happy that the Dawgs were selected to play in the Sugar Bowl. Not exactly happy with our opponent though. Lose-lose situation. We win, everyone says “Wow, you beat a mid-major conf champ.” We lose, everyone says “Wow, you lost to a mid-major team and whinned about missing a chance in the BCS Championship.” Either way, we are not going to be given any credit. I was actually hoping for a Rose Bowl game against USC. UGA and USC are the two hottest teams in the country. Gooooo Dawgs. See you in New Orleans.
By masivatack
December 2, 2007 8:50 PM | Link to this
unbelievable. we are now in a no win situation uless we put up something like a 52-10 victory. If/when we beat hawaii, we will still get no more respect nationally than we do now. I would rather have played anyone in the top 10. Oh well. Its still great to be a DAWG. Lets pummel these guys.
By Cheelio
December 2, 2007 8:50 PM | Link to this
Amen, MB. What a disgrace. Not one positive mention on ESPN or FOX. Not one second of coverage. BCS is full of holes and must be fixed. ESPN has to be pulled out of the factoring for the MNCG. Period.
By Dennis G. Berdanis
December 2, 2007 8:50 PM | Link to this
Although I hate Les Miles winning the spot with his mouth rather than on the field, what’s even worse is that he also talked voters into jumping a #9 Oklahoma all the way up to third over UGA. Now that Les has set that criteria, I’m sure in future years SEC fans other than UGA will be crying when a 2 loss Big Ten, Big 12 or Pac 10 team has to be rated higher in the final poll than a 1 loss team in the SEC that didn’t win the SEC title.
By ncdawg
December 2, 2007 8:50 PM | Link to this
Les Miles Just said on ESPN that his team was undeafted in regulation play……..I am a big UGA fan but another team that got the shaft is oklahoma………winning the Big-12…….and beating the BSC #1 Saturday night……..Les Miles and LSU most have made a deal with the devil………………Hopefuly the dawgs will play fired up and upest because of the events that have unfolded………..I would not want to see dawgs fall prey like the sooners did last year.
By TampaGator
December 2, 2007 8:50 PM | Link to this
The biggest shame is that Ohio State is going to the game…beating the powerhouse teams of Akron, Bowling Green, and some 1-AA powerhouse from Ohio. I guess you only need to be the champion of Ohio to go…oh, that should be Cinncinati…they would kill Ohio State! Ohio State is better than Georgia, Oklahoma, USC..or even Hawaii…give me a break! What a joke! The game should have been Oklahoma vs. LSU.
By chris
December 2, 2007 8:50 PM | Link to this
Let’s see… Georgia loses to Tenn. Tenn loses to LSU. LSU has the same number of losses by much fewer points. And you still feel like you got slighted.
Perhaps UGA should have just beaten USC. Everyone else did.
By catherine
December 2, 2007 8:50 PM | Link to this
i have never seen such a convoluted scenario. i love uga and quite frankly this is the biggest load of crap i have ever seen dished out by people who claim to have an education. The BCS folks are absolute idiots. I wouldnt let you shine my shoes. Good luck finding a brain. do u even know what that is?
By Hillary for President
December 2, 2007 8:50 PM | Link to this
Dear ESPN,
I am really impressed with your power to persuade voters. Will you please be my campaign manager for the upcoming presidential election?
Thank you,
Hillary for President
By PTC DAWG
December 2, 2007 8:50 PM | Link to this
Ohio State is the team that doesn’t deserve to be there.
By matt
December 2, 2007 8:51 PM | Link to this
BCS is a scam. Does UGA deserve to play in the title game? Not really sure…would love to see it, but we did not win our conference. How in the wolrd does UGA drop while LSU, OU, and VT each shoot up the rankings? How does VT feel?…they were ranked higher than both OU and LSU at before the games on Saturday. BCS=BULL CRAP STINKS!
By EmmettDawg
December 2, 2007 8:51 PM | Link to this
I couldn’t agree more.
By GO DAWGS!!
December 2, 2007 8:51 PM | Link to this
I see all sides of the argument. If Georgia won the SEC, there are few fans that would argue that another team should play for the NC. What ticks me off is the voters didn’t see this coming last week when they put Georgia at #4. Now, they’ve all backtracked. I didn’t anyone, media included, saying that LSU should play for the NC while losing and after they lost to Arkansas. No, the talk was wide open about who should play…but certainly not that Tiger team. Next year though, we should have even Pete Carrol cringing. GO DAWGS!!
By Dusty
December 2, 2007 8:51 PM | Link to this
It hurts not being in the BCS, but it is really a scham that Illinois was given the berth into the Rose Bowl over a MUCH more qualified Georgia team. The Rose Bowl is a joke! They should decide if their bowl is about matching the most deserving teams or hosting a parade! Illinois beat 2 ranked teams. That is truly a scham.
PS- I hate Rocky Top!
By Huckleberry
December 2, 2007 8:51 PM | Link to this
ESPN hosts are a bunch of loudmouth has-beens or never-was in shopping center storefront church pimp suits. They cheapen college and professional sports with their loud-jerk-next-to-you-at-the-bar blowhard opinions. I feel sorry for their families.
By Cynthia
December 2, 2007 8:51 PM | Link to this
Thank you, Mark. LSU and LES(S)Miles couldn’t win agaist Kentucky in regulation play. They couldn’t win against an UNRANKED Arkansas in regulation play. And this is a reason they should jump to the #2 position? You gotta’ be kidding me. Only a bunch of nimrods (like ESPN’s announcers) would want to watch LSU blunder all over the field for a third try at a position they clearly don’t deserve.
By Dan
December 2, 2007 8:51 PM | Link to this
quite your b!tchin! If you are in the SEC and you want to play for the national championship you need to win your tie breakers (so-champions my A$$) and be prepared to walk off the field in Atlanta the SEC Champs. Boo Hoo. Ga. isn’t playing becuase they didn’t win games they should have. Ga. is to blame for Ga. not playing, not the BCS, not corrupt coaches and polls…GEORGIA.
Want to get to the big game? Win the big games early, middle AND late!
By uga grad
December 2, 2007 8:51 PM | Link to this
Sorry Bradley, you got this one wrong, and I am a die-hard Dawg……LSU deserves to be there, and UGA blew it when they lost to S Carolina….this is a cockamamie system, but it would have been a total sham if UGA went without winning the SEC…..just remember, at the beginning of this year, UGA as a BCS team was laughable….. GO DAWGS BEAT THE RAINBOWS AND GET IT DONE IN ‘08
By Thankful
December 2, 2007 8:52 PM | Link to this
BCS Bowl, slew of underclassmen and a very brught future…I’ll take it.
By Cedrick Carter
December 2, 2007 8:52 PM | Link to this
Good comments! But what makes this even worse was some of the coaches ballots that were released early. How could the coaches SEC vote (a twice number 1 number loser) LSU to jump over Georgia in the polls. Especially when one of those losses was at home and the other was to an unranked team. This system sucks bring on a playoff!!!
By Dan
December 2, 2007 8:52 PM | Link to this
quit your b!tchin! If you are in the SEC and you want to play for the national championship you need to win your tie breakers (so-champions my A$$) and be prepared to walk off the field in Atlanta the SEC Champs. Boo Hoo. Ga. isn’t playing becuase they didn’t win games they should have. Ga. is to blame for Ga. not playing, not the BCS, not corrupt coaches and polls…GEORGIA.
Want to get to the big game? Win the big games early, middle AND late!
By gt lover
December 2, 2007 8:52 PM | Link to this
uga stands for u go away uga
By Dusty
December 2, 2007 8:52 PM | Link to this
It hurts not being in the BCS, but it is really a scham that Illinois was given the berth into the Rose Bowl over a MUCH more qualified Georgia team. The Rose Bowl is a joke! They should decide if their bowl is about matching the most deserving teams or hosting a parade! Illinois beat 2 ranked teams. That is truly a scham.
PS- I hate Rocky Top!
By TJ
December 2, 2007 8:52 PM | Link to this
The coach looked like a whiney little baby who didn’t get his way but then who would expect more?
By Fredbob Magillicudy a.k.a.FMDAWG
December 2, 2007 8:52 PM | Link to this
First!!!!!
By Dennis G. Berdanis
December 2, 2007 8:52 PM | Link to this
Steve Spurrier is still crying because he’s only invited to the toilet bowl.
By bill
December 2, 2007 8:53 PM | Link to this
Your comments are right on target…what the Dawgs need to do is NOT go into the Sugar Bowl over-confident and take care of business with Hawaii…we don’t want to repeat Oklahoma’s mistakes againt Boise State last year!
A big win gives us momentum into next year’s pre-season Top 5, when most rational Dawg fans exepcted us to make our move…
By NW Ga Dawg
December 2, 2007 8:53 PM | Link to this
Bull Crap System!!!
Bring on a play-off! Again (and again ad nauseum) it’s been pointed out: the only major sport without a playoff. The system isn’t broken; it just doesn’t work at all.
This KILLS one of the maxims of the game: if you’re gonna lose, lose early. LSU has lost very late—only a week and a day ago. They say that UGA was punished for being idle and OSU has been idle for 2 weeks and not just one.
Go Dawgs—and use this for fuel in 2008.
By Hayley
December 2, 2007 8:53 PM | Link to this
What is the difference between bulldog puppies and bulldog fans?
Answer: After a while, even the puppies will quit whining!
UGA - The perinnial “wait unitl next year” team.
Hawaii 32 Whinedawgs 14
By that's funny
December 2, 2007 8:53 PM | Link to this
Mark, why/who keeps a playoff system from being implemented? Exactly who is it that is against a playoff?
By Scott
December 2, 2007 8:53 PM | Link to this
Your last paragraph almost made me sick. You think this is worse than what happen to Auburn? You are the worst sportswriter in the nation.
By brian
December 2, 2007 8:53 PM | Link to this
Now i have seen it all a team who was not good enough to win in regulation and was taken to the limit by two teams that lets face it are not at the top of the sec and then lose to each of them jump five spots. We knew the bcs was a joke and now they have just proven it.
By Michigan all over agian
December 2, 2007 8:54 PM | Link to this
This is hypocritical - the same argument was made last year against Michigan. UGA didn’t win the games when they had to, so you don’t deserve to go. Lets just hope they pull what michigan did last year - deflated by not going to the NC game, they got their tail handed to them in their bowl game. That would be fitting for all these puppy whiners.
By Bull Crap System
December 2, 2007 8:54 PM | Link to this
You got it exactly right, Mark. This is absolutely ridiculous. Georgia will get no respect for beating Hawaii. NONE. (Just like USC will get none for beating Illinois). Thanks to ESPN for putting LSU into the title game when they surely didn’t deserve it.
By Wurider
December 2, 2007 8:54 PM | Link to this
It doesn’t make any sense whatsoever? they went from 7 to 2.
By Chris
December 2, 2007 8:54 PM | Link to this
so much for seeing the best matchups in the bowls. I dont care about the national title game but who would’nt want to see UGA play USC or OU. We are #4 in the BCS. PLaying Hawaii is a no win situation for UGA. Win and people will say it’s expected.
By Matt
December 2, 2007 8:54 PM | Link to this
I don’t agree at all with what has been said, and I’m a GA fan. GA should have beat tenessee. We lost 2 games and LSU didn’t. Thanks why they’re there and we’re not. At least we’ve got a nice advantage for next year. Go dogs.
By Sheryl
December 2, 2007 8:54 PM | Link to this
Appreciate the remarks on behalf of the DAWGS. But what bums me twice again is that Georgia was forced to the Sugar by rule after LSU, the conference champion, ascends to the NC game. The Sugar had to replace it’s conference host and got first dibs on the highest ranked SEC team behind LSU. That’s a load of crap! The DAWGS deserved a chance to play in the Rose, Fiesta, or Orange based on their achievement in ranking…if not the NC game. “Screwed By The BCS - TWICE” t-shirts go on sale tomorrow.
Lift your heads DAWGS, the future is bright. Gooooo DAWGS!!!
By go Dawgs
December 2, 2007 8:54 PM | Link to this
BSC SUCKS NUTS LSU DONT WANNA PLAY GEORGIA …N****
By makes perfect sense
December 2, 2007 8:54 PM | Link to this
You shouldn’t have to win the conference - but you should at least PLAY for the conference championship. You can’t get 3rd in the conference and say you’re in the top 2 in the country.
Just because uga’s losses were earlier in the season than LSU’s doesn’t make uga’s resume better.
Tennessee crushed uga, and LSU beat them with a backup QB.
The BCS actually got it right.
By Steve
December 2, 2007 8:54 PM | Link to this
The mutts did not win their conference, they lost to Tennessee, who stomped them and to SC by a point, they were not the best team in their conference, therefore they don’t play for the national championship. So, SHUT UP!!!!!! But it is a shame, I would love to see the Buckeyes stomp the mutts!! Oh, well, guess we will just have to watch Hawaii and Colt stomp em!!! GO WARRIORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By gt lover
December 2, 2007 8:54 PM | Link to this
damn dawg fans if lsu wins they have more national championships in the last4 years then you do in your football history, call hershal back he’s in good shape lol lol lol uga a joke
By DawgFan22
December 2, 2007 8:54 PM | Link to this
Amen Mark. Its all about who ESPN and ABC want as their teams. Herbstreit knew Miles was coming after him for the Michigan leak and he was just gushing LSU last night after the Misso/OSU game. Its a shame college football has come to this. Hopefully LSU won’t embarrass the SEC ‘cause if they play like they did last night they will get massacred!
By voice of reason
December 2, 2007 8:55 PM | Link to this
let me say first that i am a die hard tech fan. i respect the uga program and yes i am jealous of the uga program, it’s coach and everything else about uga football. i wish we had as many positives about our football program as georgia has. we have had very little to cheer about lately but the best news in a long time was just announced. uga just got screwed out of the national championship game. it is wonderful to see all of bulldog nation be so disappointed. and to top it off, they get to play in a bowl where they have absolutley nothing to gain. if they win they were supposed to….if they lose it will be a monumental upset. outside of georgia and hawaii absolutely no one will care anything about the game. it may not last long but right now all is well on the flats. i don’t even care if we are going to another no name bowl. now come on all uga fans, tell me how you got screwed and make it even better for me.
By Perry
December 2, 2007 8:55 PM | Link to this
Well said. This proves the BCS rankings mean nothing. If they did a number 7 team that barely won a game that they were favored in could not jump 4 places to be in the NC game. LSU lost their last regular season game to an unranked SEC team. With this type of logic why did Ohio State move up to number 1 with a loss to a non ranked team in one of the weaker divisions in the NCAA. It was never discussed the OSU should not move to number 1. UGA lost to two ranked teams. What a joke!
By DanDawg
December 2, 2007 8:55 PM | Link to this
UGA would be a 6 point favorite in a game vs. LSU. OSU moves up two spots we move down one?
By T.K.
December 2, 2007 8:55 PM | Link to this
Leslie, You may be the dumbest poster in the the history of Blogs, I’m sure you’re a tech fan you idiot.
By Brad in KY
December 2, 2007 8:55 PM | Link to this
Bradley,
When people say that the season is like an elimination tournament, they don’t mean that it’s literally an elimination tournament. And you know that, you just choose to ignore it when it’s convenient.
It makes perfectly good sense (and you know it) to expect that the contenders for the national title win their own conference. This is why everyone was so angry a few seasons ago with Oklahoma - they got to play for the title after losing their conference championship. It wasn’t right, and I bet you said as much then.
Of course, before you can win your conference title, you have to win your division. LSU did that. Georgia didn’t. Guess what else. LSU beat Auburn and Florida just like Georgia did. They also beat Tennessee and South Carolina, unlike Georgia. The only real claim Georgia can make opponent-wise is that they beat Kentucky and LSU didn’t.
The only other possibility is that there be some significance to when a team loses. I see no reason for it. Games at the beginning of the season should count as much as at the end. That’s one reason I’m thankful for the conference title games: in order to qualify for those, an early season conference game counts as much as one later in the season. Thus, the human element is removed from deciding who plays in conference title games. There’s no guessing game like with the BCS crap.
Basically, Georgia has no one to blame but themselves. You can’t lose two games in your own division, fail to win your division and your conference, and then cry that you didn’t get to play for the title.
Besides, I’ve seen both LSU and Georgia play and LSU is pretty clearly a cut above everyone else talent-wise. That matters when your having to split hairs.
By SpoiltDoggy
December 2, 2007 8:55 PM | Link to this
Wah!! Wah!! Wah!! I’m not going to bed until I get to play for the National Championship!!
By buckhead dawg
December 2, 2007 8:56 PM | Link to this
ESPN just dissed UGA and the Sugar Bowl. So far the only mention has been a sidebar that showed all the major bowls. An hour into the show they still haven’t discussed it individually. The BCS and ESPN sucks.
By UGAFan
December 2, 2007 8:56 PM | Link to this
LSU fans….Georgia would have beaten you last night…No doubt…We will see you next year and see if you jerks can back up what you say.
By blake butler
December 2, 2007 8:56 PM | Link to this
You have got to be kidding me. Georgia lost to SC (not even in top 25) and to Tennessee (talk about wobbling into the SEC champ.) Get off the Athens Red wagon and start reporting without bias. Even if the rules don’t state it. A team should never get to play for the national championship if they can’t win the games to get them into their conference chanpionship. You should leave the AJC and go work fro UGA as press secretary.
By reality check
December 2, 2007 8:56 PM | Link to this
To quote Reggie Ball, “hey. it’s just a game, dog.”
I’m a Georgia fan. We will wind up ranked second or third or something like that, much better than I thought we would be in what clearly was a rebuilding year early in the season.
We didn’t get it done against Tennessee. I believe we could beat anybody in the country right now, but LSU is the conference Champion. I believe we would beat them if given the opporunity, but we will have to wait until next year.
By TigerJon
December 2, 2007 8:56 PM | Link to this
S^ck it Leg humpers. If you can’t beat the Gamecocks you don’t deserve to go to ANY bowl. Besides, how about that gift at Vanderbilt??? Not to mention ALABAMA? Take what you get and like it.
By bill