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More than a few coins needed to make change


Furman Bisher

He has never had a losing season. Last year his team even played for the conference championship. But lost to Wake Forest. Then was invited to one of the old socially prominent bowl games. But lost to West Virginia. Just when it seems that one of Chan Gailey’s Georgia Tech teams is poised to make a breakthrough, it seems to find a way to blow a fuse, as of the recent Saturday at home.

For a half, Gailey’s team stared down Georgia eyeball to eyeball. You look for excuses, you begin with this: He lost his quarterback. Taylor Bennett went down at the end of the first half. When he came back he was wilder than a left-hander they call “Rube” or “Boots” in baseball. Along the sideline, Gailey was more vigorously involved than usual carrying his case to the stripe-shirted officials. This, he had come to recognize, was a critical time in his pursuit of coaching football at Bobby Dodd Stadium.

When the man for whom the game site is named was coach, Georgia Tech teams were going to bowl games year after year. Not some nuts and bolts game, like the Emerald or Meineke Car Care. Real bowls, like Sugar, Orange, Cotton or Gator. His teams weren’t losing five or six games a season. That would have closed down shop after Thanksgiving.

Look at Georgia. When Knowshon Moreno was shut down, Thomas Brown broke loose and picked up the slack. Georgia Tech has Tashard Choice, and when Choice was shut down, so was Tech’s offense. Nobody steps forward. Call it recruiting, call it coaching, call it what you will, but I will say this: The hard-line old guard at Georgia Tech is tired of having to address it in any term. The natives are not getting restless, they are restless and weary of subsisting on seasons of five or six losses.

You may recall a previous story in which Dan Radakovich, the athletics director who inherited this situation, was asked about Gailey’s future at Georgia Tech. His answer went something like this: “That’s something we don’t address until after the season.”

Was that sending a message? That after the season Gailey’s status would be reviewed? If not, there is an army of Tech alumni out there who are going to fire up a rebellion. They’re steaming. They’re tired of being fed out the back door. They want to move up front and dine in the drawing room on white tablecloths. They have seen their team lose to Georgia seven years in a row, and that is more than enough to fuel a rebellion. That still isn’t the record for this bitter series. In Bobby Dodd’s heyday, Georgia Tech beat Georgia eight times in a row, and the Bulldogs’ depression reached such depths that it seemed they might never beat Tech again. Vince Dooley came along and began to find a cure for that situation.

Firing a high-paid football coach is not easy, nor is it inexpensive. Whoever would have thought that in virtually the same week you have seen Nebraska, Texas A&M, Ole Miss and even Baylor all cleaning house. At Georgia Tech, it involves far more than simply sweeping out a coach and his staff. It means digging deep into the financial well.

Gailey has four years left on his contract. A buyout would probably cost Georgia Tech around $4 million at the least. We dig back further into Tech’s athletics finances, to the era of Dave Braine as athletics director and George O’Leary as coach. They envisioned a new and expansive stadium, not only that, but luxurious new offices, suites and special seating for alums willing to pay the price. Both Braine and O’Leary are long gone, but not the debt they built up. Some estimates are that Tech still has a debt of $90 million hanging over from that outlandish expansion project. Not verified, but estimated.

There are Tech alumni out there willing to step up and stand for a Gailey buyout, but it can’t be done that way. Then what about the expansion debt? And what about the president, Wayne Clough? He is a campus dictator. Nothing bypasses his desk.

So, as you see, this is not the mere process of firing one football coach and hiring another. Coaches don’t come cheap these days, in case you hadn’t noticed.

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By gtne80

November 25, 2007 6:14 PM | Link to this

Thanks, Mr. Bisher, you are the first to mention Dr. Clough in this morass. If, as you report, he is a campus dictator, then the mess that Tech faces with Chan’s white elephant contract extension should land squarely on his desk and on his shoulders. Dave Braine and George O’Leary may be gone, and they were certainly complicit in the crime, but the “mastermind” is on “the hill.”

By Andrew

November 25, 2007 6:22 PM | Link to this

For all the heat that Dave Brainless caught for giving Gailey an unwarranted contract extension, Clough has gotten a free pass. Wasn’t Clough’s approval needed for a multi-million dollar extension to Gailey’s contract? If so, then Clough also bought into Braine’s philosophy of “7-5 is good enough and Tech shouldn’t expect better than that”. The Tech nation has gotten screwed not only by a former AD, but by a Tech alum who now is working hard to make Tech a liberal arts school. And they wonder why I won’t donate money.

Hiring a new coach who can win in the Tech tradition (i.e. with class, and students who can graduate) will do a lot to fill seats and sky-boxes. It worked in the 90’s, and it can work again.

By BC

November 25, 2007 6:30 PM | Link to this

Agreed GTNE80. Clough needs to be accountable. Its plain economics. If Tech wants to get out of debt, it needs to increase donations from boosters and alumni. It needs to increase ticket sales and enthusiasm. And the only way you’ll get any of those things is w/ a new coach. Take a risk. A business risk. Otherwise, rest on your laurels and we’ll all be 100 yrs old and still 7-5 and under 100 million in debt.

By StingerSplash

November 25, 2007 6:35 PM | Link to this

Isn’t it more costly still to completely alienate your fan base and season ticket holders who are being subjected to increasingly higher prices to watch continued mediocrity and underachievement, and likely will not return in droves next season, thereby eliminating a key source of revenue?

By Johnson is a Johnson

November 25, 2007 6:40 PM | Link to this

I really really think that we are turning this thing around. We pretty much won the first half yesterday and the refs won the second half for the Dogs. So as far as I’m concerned, we won. And Chan’s the man! I will personally put up the money to keep him around for another 10 years. We are actually doing much better than we use to do back when we didn’t do as well as we’re doing now. Think about it.

By Bee Sting

November 25, 2007 6:45 PM | Link to this

Get June Jones before someone else snags him. He’s a QB and WR magnet. He also wins and puts hind ends in seats. He is in the final year of his contract.

By Lee

November 25, 2007 6:47 PM | Link to this

How come Terence (I can’t think of anything else to write about except race) Moore gets to publish another race bait peice of sh1t but AJC doesn’t allow anyone to comment on it.

You’re pathetic Terence Moore. I hear Ga Tech might have a coaching position open in a few days. Pays pretty good to boot. How about you apply for that job, what, with your superior sports knowledge, you’d be a shoe-in.

(I can say “shoe-in” can’t I. That doesn’t have any negative racial connotations about black shoe shine boys does it?)

Terence Moore, what a waste of ink and paper.

By Bob Leftwich

November 25, 2007 6:48 PM | Link to this

Chan Gailey is a good coach and an even better person. My question to anyone who wants to fire him is; “Whom will you get who is better?” Chan has dealt with the stringent curriculum at Tech and the David Braine caused mass academic ineligibility issues and hasnt complained. I believe there are a few better coaches in the country but I doubt if any of them would want to coach Tech and if they were willing and were successful, how long would they stay? Tech grads seem to be under the illusion that Tech is a great place to coach but that really isnt true because of institutes rigid curriculum and small alumnae base. I believe Coach Dodd always regreted not taking the Texas job because support for the state university is much greater than for any other state institution of higher learning. I see a lot of people wearing Bulldog clothing and many of them have no idea where UGA is located. Still, they cheer for the dogs and even know how to bark. Tech fans need to realize that in athletics, UGA has almost all the advantages.

By Jimmy Etheridge

November 25, 2007 6:50 PM | Link to this

Kind of like Bear Bryant, isn’t Bobby Dodd dead by now?

By billgt

November 25, 2007 6:50 PM | Link to this

Mr. Bisher, thank you for the professional analysis of the situation. Please go teach Bradley, Moore and Schutlz how to report without injecting their personal vendettas and preferences. I do not understand Bradley trying to postion Choice against Gailey. Please have Bradley fired. Thanks.

By Jimmy Etheridge

November 25, 2007 6:51 PM | Link to this

Kind of like Bear Bryant, isn’t Bobby Dodd dead by now?

By TBaker39

November 25, 2007 6:52 PM | Link to this

Well Mr. Bisher, if a change is not made, I know of about $1,000 in tickets, parking, game-day merchandise that GT will CERTAINLY be losing for next season.

My best guess is that I’m certainly not alone in my stance. I’m also ‘guessing’ that there won’t be a line of fans overly anxious to become ‘new’ season ticket holders either!

Finally, nobody seems to be mentioning the situation with next year’s schedule. Obviously, we’re less than 9 months away from kicking off 2008 and still we have only 11 games. Shouldn’t we have found a replacement for Army by now?

By jimmy Etheridge

November 25, 2007 6:53 PM | Link to this

Kind of like Bear Bryant, isn’t Bobby Dodd dead by now? Georgia sure hasn’t seen much problem getting over Vince Dooley.

By Uga V

November 25, 2007 6:54 PM | Link to this

Kind of like Bear Bryant, isn’t Bobby Dodd dead by now? Georgia sure hasn’t had much of a problem getting over Vince Dooley.

By m

November 25, 2007 6:55 PM | Link to this

The cost of firing CHAN is virtually NOTHING compared to the cost of keeping him. If Chan is not fired, season tickets sales WILL plummet. The Tech Fund will suffer immensely. If Clough and Drad are STUPID enough to keep Chan, they are being penny wise and pound foolish. Mark it down.

By Reggie Ball

November 25, 2007 6:57 PM | Link to this

Johnson is a Johnson, you are my hero. You, my friend, are the consummate Tech Man.

By falcon

November 25, 2007 7:11 PM | Link to this

Terence…..think the NFL and NBA should have a meeting regarding the racial mix in those leagues also? They are certainly not indicative of the population of the US.

As far as Coach Gailey goes, I think he’s a pretty good coach. Tech could do alot worse.

By gtne80

November 25, 2007 7:11 PM | Link to this

I grew up in Atlanta. I was going to Georgia Tech games as a kid. I went to games while I was in school there. I’ve seen the best of times and the worst of times. Throughout all of those years, NEVER was there LESS energy or enthusiasm for the program than there has been under Chan Gailey. It was more exciting in Bill Curry’s first couple of years when we averaged one win per year. It was MUCH more exciting under O’Leary, with and without Friedgen as an OC. It was fun to attend those games. With Chan as a coach, going to a game is a labor. Mark Richt evidently had an epiphany before the UF game. This is COLLEGE FOOTBALL IN THE SOUTH. It is supposed to be FUN!!! This stoic professional demeanor may cut it in the NFL, but it is DEATH to a college program. The last Tech game that I watched when there was ANY fire or enthusiasm on the field was the one bowl game coached by Mac McWhorter.

Business people will tell you that there is an old axiom that has stood the test of time, “Nothing succeeds like success.” You want full stadiums and surging revenues? Give the fans an exciting and successful product.

Where Tech trails UGA is that we do not relate to the unaffiliated fan. UGA does not pack Sanford Stadium with alumni and family. Atlanta has a HUGE population from which to draw an audience.

The Falcons have no “alumni.” For years the old stadium was half-populated because the ownership was satisfied with mediocrity. Arthur Blank came in as an owner and stirred enthusiasm by putting an exciting product on the field. The Dome started selling out and was a “rocking” environment for a while. The Vick situation has dashed that success for the moment, but you can bet that Blank won’t keep things the way they are. He will either sell out and wash his hands of it, or he will reinvest and reenergize the franchise and have the Dome rocking again very soon.

The examples are too numerous to list. Remember the Braves’ worst to first transformation? Before that, the pundits were saying that “Atlanta is not a sports town.” and “Atlanta is not a baseball town.”

It starts with ownership. In the case of college athletics, the analogy is the administration. They have to be committed to putting a quality product on the field (not pizzas and rap stars). Tech is in competition for the Metro Atlant sports entertainment dollars. They have the advantage of a huge base to draw from. It’s time for this administration to step up (like Joe Petit did many years ago when he brought in Homer Rice). Will they have the stones to do it?

By WarD@mnEagle

November 25, 2007 7:15 PM | Link to this

Tech fans do not be delusional. Gailey is a good coach, he has put together a great staff and his last 3 recruiting classes have been top 20. Considering the academic challenges facing Tech, Gailey’s done a great job attracting and coaching talent.
Now you have Saban, Jr. as an athletic director thinking he can turn Tech (a top tier university) into a mini-LSU. Does Tech really want to emulate the cultural and intellectual capital of all that is wrong with college athletics?

Tech’s goals in football should be make the top 25, contend for the ACC title every 3 years and raise graduation rates to the top of the ACC.
Georgia Tech don’t become something you are not…

By Dixbram

November 25, 2007 7:15 PM | Link to this

Thanks, Furman, for your usual cogent analysis! I look forward to your words each week! As for the amateur bloggists who are looking for a new coach, what about Lou Holtz, Terry Bowden, Gary Barnett, and a host of other proven winners who could be had for what Gailey makes? C’mon, Clough and Radakovich, Tech has stature and tradition deserving of a great name who can recruit AND coach! Go Jackets!

By WTH

November 25, 2007 7:15 PM | Link to this

Isn’t it more costly still to completely alienate your fan base and season ticket holders who are being subjected to increasingly higher prices to watch continued mediocrity and underachievement, and likely will not return in droves next season, thereby eliminating a key source of revenue?

Hell, yes, and I hope DRad realizes it, because the GTAA’s measly $300K surplus this year will turn into a multi-million dollar deficit next year.

Tech fans are royally p**d right now (when they’re not being bored to death by Chan Gailey’s pathetic coaching, that is). Any long-time season ticket holder with half a brain knows it. Abandoning the point system for the PSL system was just the latest blunder by the GTAA, and it’s gonna backfire big time next season. DRad tossed a system that rewarded loyalty in favor of a system that allows you to walk away from your season tickets as long as you want, and simply buy your way back into good seats when you feel like it. Even if Tech gets a new coach, a lot of alumni are probably going to sit out the next season or two because they know they can.

On top of that, I don’t think DRad has a clue how many alumni continued their AT Fund donations this past season, either out of confusion or some vague hope that those points might still mean something. (So now they’ll get seating priority for the Humanitarian Bowl - what a laugh! The only way Tech is going to sell tickets to that game is if they include free plane tickets and hotel rooms with them.) Next year AT donations will drop through the floor, and the red ink will flow at the GTAA.

One final comment: Did everyone notice how UGA fans had banners at the game Saturday? Do you know why Tech fans never show banners at games? Because BDS security confiscates them! I guess they were afraid to cross UGA fans, but they don’t mind treating Tech fans like dirt - just another example of what’s gone horribly wrong with the Tech football program.

By Michael

November 25, 2007 7:20 PM | Link to this

Tech has only 11 games scheduled for next year? Could the Dawgs volunteer to play them twice?

By Tech Fan

November 25, 2007 7:28 PM | Link to this

I’ll take our 2007 winning football season. Yes, Chan needs to make some adjustments with his coaching staff for quarterbacks and recruiting if we expect a championship team, but I think he is the right man for the job. Unless Georgia Tech is willing to change its curriculum to include majors in physical education (PE), history, or underwater basket weaving, don’t expect to have a dominant football team year after year due to recruiting issues.

By Glenn

November 25, 2007 7:29 PM | Link to this

Guys, give it a rest. The nucleus is there for a great team in the future. Freshmen were on the field (true freshmen and red-shirt freshmen), sometimes making great plays, sometimes making mistakes.

The SEC refs were giving UGA, the 4th best team in the land, every break they could, yet GA Tech was in the game better than the mighty Florida Gators and better than the Auburn Tigers, in spite of all the injuries.

Personally, I am very proud of the team for their effort.

By Rex Garrett

November 25, 2007 7:32 PM | Link to this

Why was Chan shown the way out of Dallas? The same reason he should be lead out of Atlanta. A good man but a very average man. Georgia has a strong head coach and a strong AD, we have an average coach and a ego driven AD. I am so sick of it all!

By Gwen

November 25, 2007 7:53 PM | Link to this

Clough’s and Braine’s ties to each other are beyond the realm of friendship and respect. That they would do this to Tech’s athletic program and cover for each other is only the first sign. Clough actually went out of his way to call in Dave Braine from Virginia Tech after Clough became president. Braine was responsible for the irresponsible debt of rebuilding the stadium as well as the sheer arrogance of extending Gailey’s contract without letting the incoming AD have a say. Through it all Clough has solidly stayed with Dave Braine without questioning anything. It’s one thing to be loyal, but this sounds a lot more like standing up for someone you love to me.

By Andy in Warner Robins

November 25, 2007 7:56 PM | Link to this

Get over the referees for crying out loud. The replays shown ad nausium by the ABC cres showed that (1) the UGA player recovered the ball in the end zone; (2) your guy couldn’t get it in the end zone without Knowshon Moreno punching the ball out and it went out the back of the end zone—touchback UGA; (3) As the guys in the booth kept saying, the UGA players had good coaching in knowing how to get to the ball.

From one who had to put up with Tech boys destroying the hedges in the 90’s—GET OVER IT; YOU HAVE LOST 7 IN A ROW! You only scored 3 pts in the second half as the better team took over and beat you down.

By Mark

November 25, 2007 8:18 PM | Link to this

Y’all destroyed your own hedges a few years back against Tennessee. Civilized. lol

By cooper

November 25, 2007 8:22 PM | Link to this

Tech has never finished a season in the top 25 under Chan and some of you want him to stay! Are you kidding me?

By Happy to be a Jacket

November 25, 2007 8:34 PM | Link to this

To Andy in Warner Robbins - Good ole Rocky Top - Rocky Top Tennessee! The better team beat you down, didn’t it? Take your thoughts to your own blog - redneck!

By gadawg

November 25, 2007 8:37 PM | Link to this

f-tech

By Love my Jackets

November 25, 2007 8:38 PM | Link to this

To Andy in Warner Robbins Good ole Rocky Top - Rocky Top Tennessee! The better team beat you down this year didn’t they? Get over it! Now, take your silly posts to your own blog - redneck!

By ihateblueturf

November 25, 2007 8:53 PM | Link to this

Who do you ask could coach us better? I imagine a lot. All Chan did was coach us to 1 win against a team with a winning record, Clemson. Our other 6 wins were against doormats with a combined 20-50 record. When we had a chance to prove something against a ranked team(45-15 record), we blew it. We are in danger of becoming irrelevant in big time college football. Chan may be a nice guy, but he’s not getting the job done. Boise is a great place to visit, in July.

By Earvin Henderson

November 25, 2007 8:56 PM | Link to this

Yes. Chan is taking some well-deserved heat. This year’s lop-sided losses to Boston College and Va Tech were embarrassments. The last second win against NC was an omen for the upcoming Georgia game. Tech has taken some if its worst beatings under Gailey.

But what about Tech alumni and supporters? Where were you on Saturday afternoon? I was amazed at how Dawg supporters took over the campus and BDS. I saw many dawgs looking for tickets, but not one dressed in white and gold. Pitiful, just pitiful. I must say, however, the dawg people in front of me, on both sides, and behind me…all in season ticket holder seats were the best behaved and pleasant folks to be around…unlike the tipsy Tech supporter that keep yelling, “Chan-tastic play.”

Over here in South Carolina, Gamecock supporters stick with their team through thin and thinner, as evidenced by the many cars flying the Gamecock banner even after dropping five straight. I’m no fan of DRaz.for his cleverness to suck money out of supporters, and I’m sick of Gailey’s excuse of “We didn’t have them prepared to play.” How can anyone making $1,000,000 say such. But both DRaz and Chan have to contend with fair-weathered Tech alumni and supporters. Saturday was the sad low point. Tech not only lost on the field, but in the stands too.

By Bleeds Old Gold

November 25, 2007 9:01 PM | Link to this

Since the articles about the cost of replacing a coach, let’s get back to that subject. If no one has said it yet, and in all my reading I’ve not found anyone that has, buying out Chan’s contract WOULD and SHOULD be paid for in full by his replacement getting the Jackets to a REAL bowl game. The additional payout of a bowl for a top 20 team alone would net more than $4 million. If we assume a good replacement WOULD and SHOULD get us to such a bowl within 3 years, then it’s a 3 year payback…….that’s an excellent ROI in anybody’s book. How about it DRAD?

By yellowblood

November 25, 2007 9:02 PM | Link to this

One solution to our problem would be to hold Tickle Piles and charge admission. If there’s one thing the Tech family will support it’s a Tickle Pile.

By Keith

November 25, 2007 9:13 PM | Link to this

Hire Bobby Johnson. He can coach. He can recruit in Georgia. He can beat UGA.

By GW

November 25, 2007 9:14 PM | Link to this

I saw Love My Jackets at the game yesterday with orange and white pom poms. She’s very confused but quite cute.

By GTFANTRUENTRUE

November 25, 2007 9:20 PM | Link to this

I can’t believe that Alumni and season ticket holders would give up their tickets in spite of Chan Gailey!!!! How about supporting our kids that are playing on the field?

Some of you so called GT supporters are a joke!

By Barking Dawg

November 25, 2007 9:24 PM | Link to this

You guys are in an interesting pickle!! Kind of like when we had Jim Donnan. You have a good coach - and a great man - but still waiting on getting over that hump. What GT has is a great coach in a good program that has just missed making it big.

If I’m Tech - I go after Paul Johnson at the Naval Academy. He has deep recruiting roots in the south - as well as the country. Naval Academy - not too many dummies there.

As a Georgia native - I am very proud of the flag ship university in Athens…but I am very proud of the Georgia Institute of Technology…where I have family members that have received excellent educations there.

I would love to see both UGA and GT undefeated each year coming into our game…..the only thing sweeter would be to see GT back in the SEC battling Bama, Auburn and TN again.

By Ramblin Gamblin Wreck

November 25, 2007 9:44 PM | Link to this

Jacket Supporters like GTNE80 have it nailed. Furman, as a follower of your writing for more years than I care to remember (from when Jim Mentor was a kid); you have correctly analyzed the current circumstance. With that in mind, unless we are prepared to throw in the towel as a major college football competitor, we need to cut our losses now.

Coach Gailey seems to be a very good man, but has reached his absolute limit of fan base tolerance. He should move on with pride and land his next challenge elsewhere. We are in the same circumstance coming off the Bill Curry era where we felt locked in mediocrity until our school realized that Bobby Ross was available. We need to look around and see the potential of a Paul Johnson or a June Jones, or, even, the familiarity of George O’Leary. Coaches Johnson’s and Jones’ records speak for themselves. Certainly, Coach O’Leary had his errors and has paid dearly. We will not tolerate policies which lead to probation and institutional embarrassment. However he knew how to find an offensive coordinator. Unquestionably, his no nonsense approach was successful at Tech and against Georgia.

While facing many recruiting challenges with the academic requirements at Tech, so do institutions like Notre Dame, without the numerous professional and social attractions of metro Atlanta. Like other distinctly challenging schools, we need someone young enough to embrace the positive aspects of Tech enthusiastically and win both the alumni and the recruits.

Thanks, Furman, for keeping reality in the equation.

By JAMES STEWART

November 25, 2007 9:45 PM | Link to this

TOO TECHIES CRY BABIES YOU PEOPLE MIGHT NOT BEAT GEORGIA AGAIN THE NEXT TEN YEARS. TECH NEVER LOSES THE REFS. ALWAY CALL EVERY THING WRONG EVERY YEAR. LAST YEAR THEY CAUSED BALL TO THROW THE FOOTBALL OUT OF BOUNDS ON FOURTH DOWN AND TIME RUNNING OUT BECAUSE THEY DID NOT COME TO HIM AND TELL HIM IT WAS FOURTH DOWN.

By Todd

November 25, 2007 10:03 PM | Link to this

Alright Ward@mneagle I am not trying to start anything with you but I cannot let your defense of Gailey stand. Gailey has vastly improved recruiting but the problem I have with him is that he cannot turn that into wins. I believe it’s because he refuses to put his best players on the field. Why was Corey Earls the deep threat when Thompson is the tallest and fastest on the team ? Why is Donley the 4th WR when he is already better than Smith and Earls ? Why is Bennett the starter when Booker (in one game) showed better pocket presence and Nesbit runs 6 yards each play ? Gailey showed you the problem he has. When Bennett got hurt and Booker and Nesbit came in Georgia could not stop the offense yet Gailey put Bennett right backin there and watched as we went right back to floundering. Gailey proved his inability at getting the best out of his all stars in the sevral games that Calvin Johnson went with 2 or 3 catches and at least one where he didn’t get any. It took Gailey 10 games before he figured out Morgan Burnett should be a starting corner over the likes of Word-Daniels and DJ Jones ( who BOTH get beat by the deep ball at least 3 times a game) Gailey has proven he can only win one or two big games a year. In today’s world where Miami, Georgia, Boston College, Virginia Tech and many others are on your slate winning a couple is not enough !

Frankly you will never see a Georgia team with their best talent on the bench. It’s because a tradition of excellence is there, waiting on which ever coach comes in. A 7 win season at Georgia is unacceptable much less 6 of them. It’s not a matter of LSU mentality it’s a matter of instilling a winning mindset and Gailey isn’t or hasn’t done that !

Thats why he should go. It hurts to say this but when Tech gets the mindset that Georgia has or for that matter Auburn, Tennessee or Ohio State, one in which only the best is tolerated, then and only then will the program exceed expectations, which at this point would not be hard to accomplish. I know Tech hasn’t got the resources those big schools do but then again I am far from rich but I expect my son to dress in clean clothing and study in school. It’s just the way it is.

By JAMES STEWART

November 25, 2007 10:08 PM | Link to this

CAN SOMEONE ESPLAIN TOO ME HOWS TO KEEP FROMS GETTING ALL TALL LEETERS WHEN I’S TIPEING? ALSOS HOW DOES I GETS BACK TO THE UGAY PLACE THAT I BELONGS?

By JAMES STEWART

November 25, 2007 10:13 PM | Link to this

I TELLS YOU TECHIES ONE MOTHING TWO YOU NEEDS TO HAVE MORE TV SCREENS FOR US UGAY FANS SO WE CAN WATCH OTHER TEAMS PLAY THAT WILL HELP US SENSE WE CUDNT BEET THAT ORANG TEEM FROM UPS NORTH. DID YOU SEA IT WHEN ABC SHOWED OUR FANS TURNED WITH THERE BACKS TO THE FEELD TRYING TO FIND OUT IF KUNTUCKY WAS A WHINING? I FOR ON WAS EMBEARASSED

By TimeForChange

November 25, 2007 10:19 PM | Link to this

Actually, I think we are in a pretty good spot for a new coach:
1) Good young talent/infrastructure 2) An opportunity to make a quick imprint at the skill postions, like recruiting a REAL QB to run a new system. Seems most new coaches get stuck with someone elses QB and system for a couple years. 3) A good chance to keep some good assistants 4) Atlanta as a major selling point (both for kids and for coaches - not many programs located in a real city).

Actually, thank goodness for #4 or we’d pretty much be Duke…

Oh, and I forgot, not having to deal with nimrod fans who manage to bark and brawl after every game with their so called non-rival. Actually I’m pretty proud how Tech stood up and chastised our fans after the BC game - and all that happend there was fans threw cups on the field. If our fans traveled to Athens and acted the same way as theirs do, I’d certainly hope our adiminstration would have something to say. I counted 5 fights in the short time I was at the game (missed most of the pregame). The kicker was the one between 10 UGA fans in the middle of West Peachtree just before the game - I kid you not. I feel sorry for the true UGA fans who get painted with that brush - but then if they really cared they’d do something about it. But all they will do is fire off some dumb reponses to this post….

By Techguy

November 25, 2007 10:30 PM | Link to this

Bleeds of Gold - I hope you know more about football than you do about the financial benefit of us going to a better bowl. The ACC has 8 bowl tie ins and after expenses all bowl revenue is split evenly among all 12 teams. So the benefit of us going to a better bowl is nothing financially. I would certainly enjoy it more, but please comment on something you know something about.

By Techguy

November 25, 2007 10:37 PM | Link to this

Hey Todd, when you are going to call out a fellow Techer don’t show your ignorance. I don’t think GT even has a WR named Thompson; maybe you meant Thomas the one who keeps dropping passes. Yow, you pick the QB based one 2 or 3 passes in a game. The coaches pick the QB based on all of the practices. It does make a difference. Were you one of the guys who last year said put in Bennett when all he did was drop snaps and miss throws. It has been the same with Booker this year.

By buzzdon

November 25, 2007 10:39 PM | Link to this

I say Chan deserves another year. He will break thru with 8 or 9 wins next year if given a chance. No replacement will do better! But I must admit Booker did look better in the 2 or 3 plays he was in there than Bennett. But hard to judge on such a brief appearance. but Chan didn’t drop a pass or fumble the ball. The SEC officials were clearly for Ga.

ga.

By buzzdon

November 25, 2007 10:39 PM | Link to this

I say Chan deserves another year. He will break thru with 8 or 9 wins next year if given a chance. No replacement will do better! But I must admit Booker did look better in the 2 or 3 plays he was in there than Bennett. But hard to judge on such a brief appearance. but Chan didn’t drop a pass or fumble the ball. The SEC officials were clearly for Ga.

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By buzzdon

November 25, 2007 10:39 PM | Link to this

I say Chan deserves another year. He will break thru with 8 or 9 wins next year if given a chance. No replacement will do better! But I must admit Booker did look better in the 2 or 3 plays he was in there than Bennett. But hard to judge on such a brief appearance. but Chan didn’t drop a pass or fumble the ball. The SEC officials were clearly for Ga.

ga.

By buzzdon

November 25, 2007 10:39 PM | Link to this

I say Chan deserves another year. He will break thru with 8 or 9 wins next year if given a chance. No replacement will do better! But I must admit Booker did look better in the 2 or 3 plays he was in there than Bennett. But hard to judge on such a brief appearance. but Chan didn’t drop a pass or fumble the ball. The SEC officials were clearly for Ga.

ga.

By buzzdon

November 25, 2007 10:39 PM | Link to this

I say Chan deserves another year. He will break thru with 8 or 9 wins next year if given a chance. No replacement will do better! But I must admit Booker did look better in the 2 or 3 plays he was in there than Bennett. But hard to judge on such a brief appearance. but Chan didn’t drop a pass or fumble the ball. The SEC officials were clearly for Ga.

ga.

By buzzdon

November 25, 2007 10:39 PM | Link to this

I say Chan deserves another year. He will break thru with 8 or 9 wins next year if given a chance. No replacement will do better! But I must admit Booker did look better in the 2 or 3 plays he was in there than Bennett. But hard to judge on such a brief appearance. but Chan didn’t drop a pass or fumble the ball. The SEC officials were clearly for Ga.

ga.

By Ramblin Gamblin Wreck

November 25, 2007 10:48 PM | Link to this

Losing to your rival is a risk and a price you pay for competing. However, being consistently by minor bowls and being expected to think its O.K. is unacceptable. We (the alumni) know our limitations. We lived through it. However, we also know the success that can be attained with a greater effort and a better fit for our institution.

Just for conversation, would Dan Reeves work at the college level? He’s already in and sold on metro Atlanta and might welcome a new challenge.

Just a passing thought…

By GT

November 25, 2007 10:56 PM | Link to this

Passion, something Georgia has to remind us exist every year is what is lacking in this program. The whole ACC plays this game like it is a country club sport where small crowds hand out more for the social get together than the game itself. Hell it has even brought down FSU and Miami. Maybe we have over exposed college football with weekday games, multiple Saturday games from 12 noon till midnight and overpaid bums coaching. How can every coach be worth what they are paying them. Somewhere there is a dimensioning return between the saturation of the sport and the economics. The SEC might be the last venue that even cares. How long does that last. The magic is gone.

By Andy in Warner Robins

November 25, 2007 10:58 PM | Link to this

From Curry, Lewis, and now Gailey—wow you know how to pick’um.

“Happy to be a jacket” Don’t know why. Not much there to be happy about. After this post though I will go back to ours on one condition. All of you stay over here. I have never understood such people who can’t get satisfaction out of your own wins so you have to claim others. Rocky top? Yep, they kicked our teeth to the curb but it has been 7 yrs since I have had to put up with “ramblin wreck” and at the current pace it will be at least 7 more!

By Andy in Warner Robins

November 25, 2007 11:01 PM | Link to this

Dang buzzdon, can’t you geeks even understand how to post to a blog!

By techgradand long time fan

November 25, 2007 11:19 PM | Link to this

I believe that Gailey has put a very good staff in place and is poised to start a very good streak at tech. Gailey, Tenuta and Bond is a very good combination. The program and recruiting has been steadily getting better with Gailey in place. He brings a level of class to the program and the players and potential recruits love him. This year, we were only a few plays short of being 9-3 or even 10-2. I will most definately be renewing my season tickets if he stays. For those who want him to go, do you really think Tech can bring in a complete staff as good as the one we currently have.

By Tech Fan

November 26, 2007 12:12 AM | Link to this

As for everyone’s comments, including Mr. Bisher’s, in today’s college football world it doesn’t take long to recover financially from a large contract buyout. 10,000 empty seats a game at $40/ea plus concessions is around $500,000 a game. If we can put Tech fans back in the seats, we can recover from the buy out in a couple of years.

Plus, I would bet a few wealthy tech fans might pitch in a little money to get rid of Gailey.

By TL JACKET

November 26, 2007 12:39 AM | Link to this

anyone supporting gailey can suck my D and just admit your not a tech fan and would enjoy losing to UGA another 4 years!!! FIRE HIS PATHETIC A* our program is stagnant and if anyone has been to a game lately u can see the wind has been knocked out of the fan base all thanks to chan, gailey supporters are far and few and if u see one they probably look like this () VAG

By surfrider

November 26, 2007 1:52 AM | Link to this

Good blog. There may be a way to get a coach for a reasonable price until the cash flow gets better or provide more incentive income. Two names come to mind. They are not the big time names we would all like but have experience at Tech and can recruit and can keep many of the current staff in place. They are Mcwhorter at Texas and Roof at Duke. The latter is risky but the recruiting ability and experience is not. The first would be my choice if can’t get one of the bigger names like O’leary, Curry (who may come in to help the financial situation somehow creatively). Roof/Mcwhorter were around if not mistaken when Daryl Smith was recruited and Joe Hamiltion was on campus along with Joe Burns and the big offensive lineman we had. Another name would be Randy Edsall or Paul Johnson but don’t know their price tag. My guess is Tech can get a coach for $500,000 to $750,000 with the understanding the money will get much better once the cash flow is improved and if the results are good. Even Tenuta may be a good fit now.

By Duh

November 26, 2007 7:29 AM | Link to this

Andrew wrote “Hiring a new coach who can win in the Tech tradition (i.e. with class, and students who can graduate) will do a lot to fill seats and sky-boxes. It worked in the 90’s, and it can work again.”

George O’Leary didn’t graduate anyone. Moron.

By firechangailey.com

November 26, 2007 7:48 AM | Link to this

We know quite a few people who will not be donating to the AT fund or purchasing season tickets next year if Gailey is around.

Hey “Duh” - how did he not graduate anyone? He was there 6.5 years.

Surfrider - from my understanding there is a bit more money than this article tells you. It’s not quite so tight.

http://www.firechangailey.com

By firechangailey.com

November 26, 2007 7:50 AM | Link to this

Techguy - what if the ACC had 2 BCS bowl bids though (1 at large)? Which would be very possible this year. I think that’s more $ even when it’s split.

http://www.firechangailey.com

By firechangailey.com

November 26, 2007 7:52 AM | Link to this

Bee Sting-

GET OFF JUNE JONES!!! Why the hell would he want to come here when he lives in paradise. Do you people think?

http://www.firechangailey.com

By gtlinz

November 26, 2007 8:18 AM | Link to this

I was not sure what the best thing to do about Gailey was until I sat down in the East stand before the GT-UGA game and saw the West stands looking 40% red. And I don’t mean the uppers stands and corners. The lower level in the middle West stand had a lot of red from GT alumni who had given up. We have no choice because Gailey has lost support. I also have never been less proud of GT alumni either.

By Joe

November 26, 2007 9:22 AM | Link to this

I have not been a Gaily fan since he was hired. However in the last two years I have slowly changed my attitude. His recruiting classes have been phenomenal. Unfortunately he does not understand how to coach all his talent. If he would adopt a Bear Bryant attitude of hiring good assistants and letting them do their job without any interference I would support him staying.

By jay

November 26, 2007 9:26 AM | Link to this

He’s the best coach they could get. I don’t see anyone else taking the job who has his coaching abilities.

By ga_tech_92

November 26, 2007 9:41 AM | Link to this

Bob Leftwich, I unfortunately agree with almost everything your saying (and asking). My question then is, what are we to do then? We cannot stagnate in mediocrity, that doesn’t work. We can’t expect to ever be dominate for a length of time, because the solution is a super special coach, but a super special coach wouldn’t stay around long with the big money other schools would offer. UGA has multitudes more resources than we do due to a number of factors. Is it hopeless? Should we just abandon football? What is the solution, it feels like the only solution is SOMEHOW bringing in LOTS more resources to compete with the football factories of the world, then we can pay the top notch coaches of the world and keep them. How though?…how can we do this? If we cannot….then….what does that tell us? Doing nothing and holding our breath doesn’t work, but what in the world, this is so frustrating. It’s really tough being a Tech grad, if you LOVE football………knowing you have very limited resources b/c of small alumni and casual fan base. Big Boi isn’t the answer, please God tell me hip hop isn’t the answer.

By Joe Tech

November 26, 2007 9:44 AM | Link to this

Sorry to change the subject, but will the Georgia moron at the AJC in charge of their website actually look at the sports page and fix the articles listing? Wake up and do your job. Are you waiting for the SEC refs to come bail you out?

By Jay Strong

November 26, 2007 9:49 AM | Link to this

TWO WORDS!!!

CHRIS HATCHER

By Alex

November 26, 2007 9:50 AM | Link to this

“And what about the president, Wayne Clough? He is a campus dictator.”

Well, maybe Dr. Clough has a couple of more important things to do than run a football program. We should not forget that he transformed Georgia Tech from a leading regional university to one of the world’s top research institutions for engineering and science. Recently, Tech made it among the top ten engineering and IT programs in the THES world university ranking. With all love to college football, we should not forget what is more important, academics or athletics. Frankly, I’d rather get my degree from the Georgia Institute of Technology than from a low-ranked school like UGA even if this means to watch the Yellow Jackets loose against the Bulldogs for all eternity.

So, let’s keep Dr. Clough out of this and concentrate on the people who are paid for running the athletics program.

By Sanjeep

November 26, 2007 9:55 AM | Link to this

Two comments. First: Terrance, YOUR COLUMNS SUCK!!. Quit using your job to vent your racial bias and hatred. Second: Paul Johnson would be the best choice at Tech and wouldn’t break the bank.

By ga_tech_92

November 26, 2007 10:28 AM | Link to this

Let’s not be unrealistic about UGA and academics. It’s my understanding that it takes about the same SAT scores to get into UGA these days as it does GT. They have many very honorable and proud majors, Vet, Law, Education, just to name a few. The real reason they whip us regularly is simple, numbers: UGA has about 34,000 students, including a LOT more girls per guys in ratio. Tech has less than half of that total. If 50% of the enrolled eventually graduate, then you are looking at 17000 alums from UGA and less than half that from GT. Over the course of ten years we are talking about nearly 100,000 more alums every ten years from UGA than GT. Even if only half of the alums are “into” football enough to get season tickets, you are still talking about 50,000 more season ticket holders than GT. (Note to self: isn’t their stadium right about 50,000 seats bigger?…hrmmm…I’m sure it’s coincidence). Compound this situation with the fact that EVERY ONE OF THOSE SEATS earns money for the program. Money for the program allows for better equipment and much higher pay for coaches. Even if we find a diamond in the rough of a coach, we can’t usually keep them, because a big school like UGA will offer three times the money we can offer…thus stealing the diamond in the rough. Compound this situation further with the casual fan factor. UGA is the state school, Tech is the little specialty institute of the state. The state school is almost ALWAYS more generally appealing to the casual fan growing up, thus you put even MORE butts in the seats, thus compounding the resources issue further. And the kicker, girls…UGA has majors which attract more girls than guys on average: education, vets, etc….deny it or not…money, fans in seats, and a high girl to guy ratio ALL are HUGE factors in building winning football teams. Yes, even a small school like Tech can win from time to time, but to win consistently over the course of time (look at the UGA/GT record, we loose most of the time…since the dawn of time…other than the occasional blip). We have to ask ourselves if we want to be a football school or not. Either we add majors which attract more girls than guys and increase enrollment by 2-3 fold…or…face facts that we simply cannot compete on a consistent basis year in and year out. It’s not insulting, it’s just simple logic. Put another way…if I give you all the football advantages UGA has…and I keep all the football advantages GT has…who do you think will win more times than not?……….the teams with the massive resources (alumni and casual fans) and hot chicks appeals to football recruits and the top coaches. It’s like the Yankee’s, having the most money doesn’t GUARANTEE you win every year, but over time, it guarantees you will win a lot more than the less resource filled teams. And no…Big Boi is not the answer……more girl friendly majors, more enrollment, more of a financial commitment to keep a TOP NOTCH coach is the only way GT will ever become a football power. If we aren’t going to commit to being a football power, then we cannot expect to be one. Again, simple logic. UGA did it right for majors and resources…GT only did it right for a little research school……..if we don’t’ care about football, then it doesn’t matter and we are on track……if we do care about football…then we have to do some serious changes………because the last 50 years shows what being the little dog in town will get you over time….only an occasional blip on the football radar.

Please note, I did NOT slam UGA’s academics, because I know a lot of smart UGA folks. The bottom line is, they have the right kinds of majors and the right number of enrollees to create a football power, Tech does not. Oh, and look out for Kennesaw State. They have LOTS of attractive majors and LOTS of enrolled students, more comparable to UGA…….and they will grow their football program with the resources just like UGA. It’s not complicated. Do we want to add the right sort of majors (doesn’t have to be basket weaving), or not? Oh, and the no buy out clause in Chan’s contract………..guys…someone was getting paid kick backs to let that go through. Clean house, that is completely irresponsible.

Paul Johnson might be a good choice, but the point is…if he works out GREAT…a richer school will take him from us (just like we want to take him from navy). We have to change things drastically, or expect the same results over time.

By Kyle

November 26, 2007 10:34 AM | Link to this

Tech is an 8-win program.

As an aside, if Tech played inspired ball in conference as they do against UGA, they would be a consistent force in the ACC.

With other higher profile jobs available this season it will be extremely difficult for Tech to secure a coaching upgrade.

By Andy in Warner Robins

November 26, 2007 10:46 AM | Link to this

ga tech 92,,,,well written.

From a DAWG fan perspective you are completely right. It is going to be difficult, but not impossible, for GT to have a consistently winning program. A few hot years yes, but consistent winner, no.

By Gailey Can't Coach

November 26, 2007 11:01 AM | Link to this

This is absolutely INSANE! It’s clear that Chandler Gailey has fooled some of the people into believing that GT isn’t a school that’s worthy of 4 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS: “Tech can’t get a better coach”…”Tech will never be a football powerhouse”…”Tech should be happy with Gailey as head coach”.

If there’s EVER an electronic sports blog archaeological dig and they uncover asinine statements like this, they’ll conclude that the historic drought was responsible for mass delusion among those following the college football program of GT!

SADLY, most of these comments are from “supporters” of GT Athletics. Of course they will never be successful business OWNERS because they don’t understand Balance Sheets and Income Statements. When your ship in sinking, you take the 500 TON PROBLEM and throw it overboard or you don’t live to see another day. No need for an engineering or IM degree for that…

UGA football has excitement surrounding it…Chandler Gailey Ball is so DEMORALIZING that whoever writes the press pieces FOR GT Football is even DEPRESSED. Check out these “game highlights” and you’ll think you’re reading an obit (and you very well might be):

http://ramblinwreck.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/recaps/110107aaa.html

http://ramblinwreck.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/recaps/112407aaa.html

Just DEPRESSING…And those idiot comments about how “competitive” Chandler Gailey and his coaching staff have made Tech?!?! Never a losing season…Always a bowl invite…A winning record in the ACC…We should be proud of another 7-win season…Blah Blah Blee Blah. Here are the final reg season records of those wins:

Notre Dame: 3-9 Samford: 4-7 Clemson: 9-3 Miami: 5-7 Army: 3-8 Duke: 1-11 UNC: 4-8

There’s nothing there to be proud of except the PLAYERS who’ve never given up. Games that should’ve been won were NOT. A game that was won probably shouldn’t have been (Clemson had FOUR missed field goals, a punt blocked, a fumbled kickoff return, a TD called back and a critical pass interference call, Choice and his hammer)…SpongeBob and Patrick could’ve coached 9 WINS out of that schedule with the TALENT Tech has.

But this is EXACTLY what you get with Chandler Gailey, year after agonizing year: A surprise win over a Top 25 opponent, wins over patsy opponents (most of the time), NO WINS over UGA, losses to lesser opponents and normally 1-3 absolutely HUMILIATING LOSSES that usually sets or ends some kind of GT Football or NCAA record.

Bradley is right: Can Chan. Shultz is right: DRad make a decision already and MOVE ON. WTF with all the suspense??!! What’s Gailey going to say to keep his job, “I did my best, just like I did every game of every year.”???? HIS BEST is simply standard MEDOCRITY to everyone else, except those who send him Xmas Cards every year.

Gailey LOOKS and SOUNDS like a beaten man who’d rather be trout fishing and getting his monthly $92,000 GT Athletics Welfare Check each month…There’s NOTHING ELSE left in his tank. Things may get worse before they get better with a coaching change. But you can be absolutely SURE that things will be devastatingly WORSE for GT Athletics if Chandler Gailey is given more rope and another year at GT!!

Why does this even NEED to be discussed anymore? Hasn’t the dead horse been beaten into an unrecognizable mish-mash of bones, flesh and hair?!?! DUMP THE PROBLEM and lets start moving FORWARD again!!

By Creditwherecreditisdue

November 26, 2007 11:07 AM | Link to this

Alex, me bucko. Dr. Clough INHERITED “one of the world’s top research institutions for engineering and science. The change and success were achieved by President Joe Pettit and VPR Tom Stelson. As a Tech fan, I congratulate UGA on its victory in the non-academic field of football. When will GT fans (limited principally to students or grads, staff or some faculty) be gracious enough to give credit where credit is due while being grateful for its university’s achievements in implementing the mission of an institute of higher education? GT’s peers include MIT, Harvard, Cal Tech, etc. yet Tech is competitive at the top level of university athletics, for crying out loud. If t here is a choice to be made about investments of scarece resources, President Clough rightly should be focused on the institutional mission and not that of an athletic association. I respect Mr. Bisher but was surprised by his characterization of Clough as a dictator. Actaully if that is the case, one might conclude that is an effective way to manage one of the most arrogant workforces in the nation, an academic faculty! :-)

By Make the call for Paul

November 26, 2007 11:24 AM | Link to this

Get Paul Johnson, a 1-AA national championship winner, a la Jim Tressel, and someone who went to Navy, Navy! and has won. Runs an exciting offense. Hire him now.

By eddie

November 26, 2007 11:26 AM | Link to this

Gailey fired! Our nightmare is over.

By Heath

November 26, 2007 11:28 AM | Link to this

A sad, sad day for all Georgia fans…news just came out that Gailey has been fired!

By JackP

November 26, 2007 11:28 AM | Link to this

Vince Dooley to the rescue. Ray Goff as his backup with Jim Donlin waiting in the wings. How about Lou Holtz?

By Gailey Can't Coach

November 26, 2007 12:06 PM | Link to this

He’s GONE!! He’s GONE…Ch 2 Reports Gailey HAS BEEN FIRED!!!

By Gailey Can't Coach

November 26, 2007 12:32 PM | Link to this

Geez…I was the last to find out. Still a Day to Remember for Tech Football!! The 500 Ton Ball & Chan is history…

By dc fan

November 26, 2007 12:56 PM | Link to this

Chan has been fired. Now if we can just fire the officials that worked so hard for Georgia’s win last night, maybe we will have a chance next year.

By shanny8

November 26, 2007 2:57 PM | Link to this

the whole truth and reality that tech is “little” school is a load of crap…i’ve watched this team jump into the top 25 so many times that it isnt funny…tech has everything that any other school has, theyve been competetive with every other “big” college in the country, theyve beaten some top 10 ranked teams every year, theyve even had one of their players to go as one of the top 3 draft picks last year…the only thing that stands in their way of going to the next level is the coaching…a team is usually a by product of their coach…and tech’s lackluster and lack of enthusiasm performances are a product of the lackluster coaching they were receiving…the teams attitude will change when they get the coach that will show them that winning and excellence must not be achieved…it must also be maintained

By Fan Belts

November 26, 2007 5:24 PM | Link to this

Hey Techies, do you want some cheese with that whine? Sorry. See you next November on the *eighth win that is.

By jake

November 26, 2007 6:48 PM | Link to this

The comment about Georgia bringing in Dooley to cure the drought years is wrong. Wally Butts won the last four games he coached in verse Tech and Bobby Dodd

By jake

November 26, 2007 6:48 PM | Link to this

The comment about Georgia bringing in Dooley to cure the drought years is wrong. Wally Butts won the last four games he coached in verse Tech and Bobby Dodd

By Historian

November 26, 2007 7:18 PM | Link to this

Poor Chan Gailey, he took Dallas to playoff games, two years in row, fired! He never had a losing season at Tech, fired! What the Chan Gailey’s of the world don’t understand is their motive is to win more than they lose and work hard to do that. What they don’t understand is that winning all of their games is the goal, no some. He never had any championships as his goal, and probably never will. Maybe some school is looking for a coach to break .500 every year, and yeah Chan Gailey would be a great candidate. If you have a head coach who doesn’t say winning the National championship is the ultimate goal, then keep looking.

By Navigator

November 26, 2007 7:41 PM | Link to this

Sorry Jake, Tech won in 1963, the year before Dooley became head coach. However, no argument that Tech’s longest win streak since Dodd is 3. Georgia has dominated with good coaching, where Tech went through some really bad ones. It’s about time Tech follows the same plan that Georgia took, and that is go after a young coach with a solid resume, can you say Jimbo.

By jake

November 26, 2007 8:05 PM | Link to this

You are wrong! Wally Butts last four years were from 57 to 60 and he won all four to close out his career. Look it up!! 1963 was Johnny Griffith

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