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DEL.ICIO.USTime for Braves to get Griffey
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Terence Moore
Let’s try this again. After all, we’ve typed these words before, but never have they made more sense. The Braves need a center fielder until their youngsters are ready, and veteran Ken Griffey Jr. loves Bobby Cox, the accomplished Braves manager, and Griffey’s Cincinnati Reds aren’t going anywhere soon.
Not only that, Griffey is baseball’s cheapest superstar with a highly workable contract. He also lives maybe a seven-minute drive from the Braves’ spring complex in Orlando, which would suit the homebody Griffey just fine.
The same would apply to a Griffey stint in a Braves uniform. He still cherishes his time as a youth in the 1980s when he often took batting practice for fun at old Atlanta-Fulton County Stadium with the likes of Dale Murphy, Bob Horner and somebody named Ken Griffey Sr., a Braves player back then after his noted career with the Reds.
Get him. Well, the Braves should do so regarding the younger Griffey after they use some of the money they’ve saved from their Edgar Renteria trade to acquire a starting pitcher for a troubled rotation beyond John Smoltz and Tim Hudson. “The strategy from there would be for us to get a center fielder,” said Frank Wren on Wednesday, the sharp baseball man who will make a seamless transition into John Schuerholz’s role as Braves general manager.
Wren is strikingly more personable than his predecessor, but they are similar in that they prefer not to discuss names in these situations. Even so, we can use Wren’s philosophies to narrow the Braves’ best option in center during the post-Andruw Jones era to Griffey, the most legitimate slugger of his era with 593 career home runs and no hint of steroid issues.
For instance: Would Wren seek one of those dandy center fielders available through free agency such as a Torii Hunter?
“I would say that going strong in the free-agent market would be our least likely alternative,” Wren said. “I say that just because, with the young players we have coming (in the farm system), it just wouldn’t make sense to go sign somebody for four, five, six years when we have what we think are better players on the horizon. With that being said, the free-agent market probably doesn’t make as much sense as a trade. The trade market is probably the most likely way we’ll fill center field.”
We’re back to Griffey. While that A-Rod guy, for instance, wants nothing less than $30 million a year from somewhere, Griffey is slated to make $12 million next season in the last year of his Reds contract. Plus, if Griffey is traded, the Reds would be required to pay approximately half of that amount. There also is every indication that he would defer a chunk of that amount to help his new employers strengthen other areas of their team. Just like that, the Braves could have a Hall of Famer in waiting for virtually nothing.
The Braves could have such a player for two years, maybe three, to help them on the field and at the box office. Then they could plug in one of their slew of rising choices. They have Brent Lillibridge, their Class AAA player of the year. They have Brandon Jones, owner of a collective 100 RBIs last season for two different teams in the minors. They have Jordan Schafer, 21, recently named the player of the week in the Arizona Fall League, and he is the league’s youngest player. They also have Gorkys Hernandez, a speedster just acquired as part of that Renteria deal with the Detroit Tigers.
Again, Wren won’t discuss names, but would he grab an established veteran in this situation for the short term? “Sure. No question, no question,” Wren said. “Actually, that would be the ideal. In a perfect world, that would be the ideal.”
Just so you know, Wren grew up in southwestern Ohio cherishing the Big Red Machine.
His favorite player?
Ken Griffey Sr.
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By azbrave
October 31, 2007 6:26 PM | Link to this
GREAT IDEA!!
By Herschel Talker
October 31, 2007 6:26 PM | Link to this
For once, your are right TM. Great idea.
By Ron Roberts
October 31, 2007 6:28 PM | Link to this
Well after all this flat-out silly discussion about throwing money at Mike Cameron, his positive drug test should scare the Braves off, if his .241 batting average and diminishing power numbers don’t.
I’d take an affordable Griffey for 2-3 years in CF. Or an affordable Griffey in RF with Francoeur in CF.
By Muggly Other
October 31, 2007 6:29 PM | Link to this
The Griffey story sounds logical enough, but there is one huge concern. We have Chipper. It’s hold your breath every time Chipper limps a little bit. KG is a DL candidate waiting to happen. His reliability makes Chipper look practically bulletproof! If the Braves hope to retain Tex after this season, they’re going to need every spare penny they have. Paying Griffey 12 mil for a couple of years makes it harder to spend the money on Tex.
If it’s Tex or Griffey… I take Tex.
By ToeKnee
October 31, 2007 6:32 PM | Link to this
Hell. Yeah.
By Skydawg
October 31, 2007 6:34 PM | Link to this
You really need to get over your obsession with Cincy, Mr Moore. Or even better, go back. Braves need Griffey and his injuries like we they need a hole in the head. Sure he was healthy for most of last year, which leads you to believe that he’s even more prone to get injured this coming season. Would be a bonehead move altogether when there are younger, cheaper options potentially available.
By Greg
October 31, 2007 6:35 PM | Link to this
Excellent idea.
Except for the fact Griffey is no longer a CF.
Aside from that small glitch, I’d love to have Griffey in LF, if there was a no hit, all glove guy in CF for a year or two.
By Taylor
October 31, 2007 6:37 PM | Link to this
AWESOME IDEA! Hopefully Wren reads this!
By woodie
October 31, 2007 6:41 PM | Link to this
Please no Griffey- he sneezes and gets hurt
By Biren
October 31, 2007 6:43 PM | Link to this
It makes the most sense. We need a veteran CF!
By Fred
October 31, 2007 6:46 PM | Link to this
There are signs of a good future in the minors, but let’s face it - next year will be our best bet to accomplish something for quite some time to come. With Boras as the agent for Tex, don’t get hopes up - he’s gone after this year. Smoltz can’t have much left in the tank after 2008. Same for Chipper. This team will look DRAMATICALLY different in 2009-2010 and quite possibly doing the “rebuilding” thing with more kids. The future is now - the Tex trade last year confirmed that. I have no problem letting Andruw walk if it saves enouhg money to bring in a quality starter (Glavine helps, but not at the price tag he will probably want). Trade for a CF (and Griffey would be fantastic) and sign a free agent SP for the #3 spot in the rotation and roll the dice in 2008!
By Heather
October 31, 2007 6:50 PM | Link to this
TERENCE, JUST LET DOB WRITE ABOUT THE BRAVES.
YOU GO DO WHATEVER IT IS YOU DO BEST.
AT LEAST DOB IS SMART ENOUGH TO REALIZE THAT THE REDS WON’T: 1) GIVE GRIFFEY AWAY FOR ALMOST NOTHING, AND 2) PAY GRIFFEY’S SALARY FOR US
By Don
October 31, 2007 6:52 PM | Link to this
Griffey is too injury prone and too old to be a reliable center fielder, but if Cincinnati would agree to take Terence Moore back as part of the deal I’d make the trade.
By Dan
October 31, 2007 6:56 PM | Link to this
Who had “three days after the World Series ended” in the annual ‘Terrence Moore’s ‘Braves should sign/trade for Griffey’ Sweepstakes”?
By Robert CPE
October 31, 2007 7:02 PM | Link to this
Griffey would be a good pick up…but at what trade cost? We gave up a lot of our future in the Tex trade, can we afford to give up more for Griffey? Does anybody have any idea as to what the Reds would want to get in return? That being said, I would love to see Griffey in a Braves Uniform
By DHD
October 31, 2007 7:06 PM | Link to this
How long did it take you to figure this out? We’ve been talking about it for 10 years.
By Mr C.
October 31, 2007 7:14 PM | Link to this
I thought death and taxes are the two things one can’t avoid. Add ur yearly article on bringing Griffey to ATL to that list too. I guess we will miss the Notre Dame article this year since they are really bad.
Guess what? Griffey just injured? When the wind blows, he gets hurt? He has not played a complete season in the past 5 yrs. If the Braves get him, he will be on DL if they make the playoffs.
Sorry TM, u can wait till next yr b/4 revisit the same article again.
By Missouri Bravesfan
October 31, 2007 7:14 PM | Link to this
I like the idea. I am just concerned that Griffey does not have the legs to handle centerfield anymore. He might be okay in right or left field, but there is no need to move Francouer. I just don’t think Francouer’s arm will be as effective with his assist on putouts as he is in rightfield. Griffey had a real good year last year and yes he has been injury prone. But it might be worth the risk if we don’t have to give the farm away. Especially if Cincy will pay half his contract and he will defer some. Put him in leftfield and Lillibridge or Schafer in Center.
By Sid
October 31, 2007 7:15 PM | Link to this
Just one thing
Griffey is not a CF anymore
By Mark
October 31, 2007 7:20 PM | Link to this
Terrence haven’t you wrote this before? Just shutup and write about something else. Please! Your articles have been pathetice over this past year.
We need pitching and your dumbass says get Griffey. I promise TM, if you were a little bit SMARTER you would realize how STUPID you are.
By AJK
October 31, 2007 7:20 PM | Link to this
Absolutely agree 100%!! I am curious, though, as to why the Reds would be required to pay 1/2 his salary if he’s traded, and what they might want for him?
By Marty
October 31, 2007 7:29 PM | Link to this
Terrence, you’re an idiot.
Griffey is a right fielder, and we already have a pretty good one of those.
Griffey is a walking hamstring/shoulder/whatever else injury.
Griffey will be more expensive than you seem to think.
We need a serviceable stopgap for a year or two until one of our embarrassment of riches in young CFs is ready to play at the big-league level. Griffey does not fit that description.
Spend the money on pitching and Tex. Get Francoeur locked in for 6 years like Brian. Leave Griffey in Cincy.
By Don Norsworthy
October 31, 2007 7:36 PM | Link to this
You are an idiot! Nuff said.
By Matt
October 31, 2007 7:48 PM | Link to this
It’s a great idea, except for one thing… JR doesn’t play CF anymore b/c he gets hurt. This is why they moved him to right. As much as I like the idea — and certainly don’t want any part of Mike Cameron — JR in center will last about a week, until he pulls a hammy or his knees fall off.
By Fan since 66
October 31, 2007 7:49 PM | Link to this
Nothing against Griffey but,the Braves could use some team speed.A centerfielder with speed on the bases would be a big plus.And yes we can forget signing Tex.Major League Baseball has let Boras and the agents get control of the game.Only the rich teams can afford the overpaid superstars now.Teams with smaller payrolls will be left behind.A-Rod got too much the first time.30 millon a year now? Its a shame and now he wants 20 mil for Jones.Its ruined the game for the teams that can’t pay the big contracts.And its only beginning,and if it doesn’t stop baseball as we have known it will be ruined.
By OMG NO!!!!!!!!
October 31, 2007 7:56 PM | Link to this
I repeat OMG NO!!!!!!!!!
By KB
October 31, 2007 7:59 PM | Link to this
As far as injuries go, Ken Griffey is to position players as Mike Hampton is to pitchers: Great talent, always injured. A trade sounds great, but get someone healthy.
By Matt
October 31, 2007 7:59 PM | Link to this
Terence, you are an idiot.
By clayhound
October 31, 2007 8:05 PM | Link to this
What did Griffey do for Cincinnati?
You might as well keep A.Jones in CF, at least he will play 160 games and catch anything hit his way. Bat him in the eight hold and he’ll still hit 25 to 30 homeruns.
WE NEED PITCHING. DID YOU SEE THE WORLD SERIES mr. moore?
By Chuck in NC
October 31, 2007 8:06 PM | Link to this
Those of you who are calling Moore insane and/or an idiot need personal help. Disagree with his argument, but your disparaging comments are insulting for those of us who read these blogs.
I think Griffey is a decent idea, especially for a 1-2 year stopgap while we wait for Lillibridge and Schaefer to get ready for the bigs. A lineup of KJ, Escobar, Chip, Tex, Griff, BMac, Frenchy, and Diaz is pretty hot.
By matt andrews
October 31, 2007 8:09 PM | Link to this
Griffy cant play center field anymore. Come on terence. You always come up with these crazy ideas that make no sense. The reds wouldnot pay half his salary. One example the trading of grady wasnt a bad ,ove. U have no clue what grady was or wasnot doing in the scheme.
By Paul Hamilton
October 31, 2007 8:09 PM | Link to this
I know Junior is winding down his career, but I would actually go attend some Braves games just to watch him play. This would be a great strategy if you could get him for a reasonable price for one year. Good PR move, and he is still twice the hitter Andruw was in his career year. If you didn’t want to play Junior in center, than you could play him in right and let JF play center.
By T-Bone
October 31, 2007 8:14 PM | Link to this
I like it. But can we also get pitching … and re-sign Tex … and sign Frenchy to a long-term … and get some more pitching.
By Youve Got to be kidding me
October 31, 2007 8:21 PM | Link to this
Griffey??? Surely you are kidding? Over weight, slow, injured, falling batting average, cannot cover CF any longer. The Braves are well invested in players on the DL who cannot produce. This is just what they need, another $10 million on the DL for half the season. Griffey gets hurt every season, EVERY season, since he left Seattle. He is not the Junior of old. I used to live in the Seattle area and got to see The Kid from his first day, till he was traded. The current edition is not The Kid any more. He is old and broken down. He’d do better in the AL as a DH. NOT in the Braves OF.
By andy
October 31, 2007 8:23 PM | Link to this
Terrence: You have written about three, yes three, stories in the last year endorsing griffey. Will you just quit it? Please just stick to the falcons and hawks, or just go away. Let David O’Brien write about the Braves. HE HAS A CLUE. You’re an absolute IDIOT.
By bill
October 31, 2007 8:54 PM | Link to this
TM, you just don’t get it. Why would you pay such a big salary for someone to sit on the bench while injured. It’s beyond me why the AJC puts up with your crazy ideas. I hope they realize, it only hurts the paper. You only write these goffy columns to stir people up. It’s time for you to get another job. If you can find one.
By Gary
October 31, 2007 8:59 PM | Link to this
Wow Terence, this almost makes up for your over-the-top slam on Richt. If Cincy will part with Griffey and pay half his salary, I think you have a good idea. I’d love to see Griffey in a Braves uniform and for 6 mill, the price is great. There’s still money left to get an ace and sign Tex. Unlike another ML offspring, Jr is a team player. I agree with those concerned about injuries, but I think playing for a contender would rejuvinate him. If I had to play in Cincy I’d stay hurt too! If he gets hurt, we bring up some of our studs and give them a shot in CF. If he stays healthy, we’ve got a future HOF player drawing fans and helping us win the WS. It’s hard to see a downside for 6 mill. I’d probably think differently though if we had to pay full price.
By tollplaza
October 31, 2007 9:07 PM | Link to this
Terence, How did you become a sports writer for the AJC? Did you lie in your resume? You obviously no nothing about college coaching and with this crap about Griffey you know less about baseball. Try the Living section.
By Braves Fan 79
October 31, 2007 9:14 PM | Link to this
Great idea TM!! Get Griffy…and PLEASE NO cameron! Either get griffy or rely on youngsters to roam CF and roll the dice.
By JordanPTC
October 31, 2007 9:20 PM | Link to this
TM, it’s hard to take your suggestion of adding KG, Jr., to the Braves seriously if you don’t indicate who the Braves would have to give the Reds in return. Of course, the Reds aren’t likely to trade KG, Jr., to us for Tanyon Sturtze. So who would you suggest we trade for him???? A handful of prospects? Not likely, because we gave our best prospects away for Tex.
By Milt
October 31, 2007 9:22 PM | Link to this
Terry, Griffey is more injury prone than J.D. Drew. Stop pushing for your idol to be a Brave. Not going to happen. Wouldn’t be prudent. Please write about something you know. Baseball it isn’t.
By Ken Stallings
October 31, 2007 9:28 PM | Link to this
Griffey is not a free agent, and therefore the Reds would be certain to ask for a lot for him. Clearly getting him as a free agent via a simple compensation pick would be a wise move for one or two good years.
But to unload the farm, which is the only way to get him, would be a foolish move.
No one would quibble with getting Ken Griffey in a Braves uniform. The highly respected and personable superstar would be a very welcome addition.
It’s entirely a question of what the Braves would have to give up for him — a reality your column glossed over unfortunately. And there is no likely scenario where the price to give up would not harm the team more than the benefit it gained.
By mike
October 31, 2007 9:35 PM | Link to this
It depends what the braves have to pay and what they’d have to give up. If they only have to pay 6million and not have to give up one of their top prospects (Lillibridge, Schaeffer, and the two guys from detroit) then Im all for it). I’d actually give up Matt Diaz and Brandon Jones for him, I dont know if thats good enough but hey maybe the Reds are desperate for salary space. I agree with most posts in that he shouldnt play cf, play him in left for a year. If the Reds were willing to give him up for the Braves two left fielders then I would play him in left and play blanco or lillibridge in cf for a year. How bout this lineup:
Blanco/Lillibridge CF Escobar ss CJones 3b Texeira 1b Griffey lf Mccann c Franceour rf kjohnson 2b
By Elmer
October 31, 2007 9:45 PM | Link to this
You could trade for COCO CRISP. He has 2 years left on his contact; next year 4.5 million, 2009 5.5 million. That’s 10 million for 2 years then let the younger players take over. He has great defense and speed but could pick up the average a bit. The Red Sox may pick up part of his salary. That would give Braves the money for FA pitcher (not Glavine)and money for Tex. CURT has Atlanta of his mind and he is his own agent. Wants one year deal. Ron Roberts you would make a good GM, I like the way you think.
By skc
October 31, 2007 10:03 PM | Link to this
I know in the past I didnt want Griffey, but its not a bad idea. Listen, Griffey had 30 home runs, 93 RBI’S and he played in 144 games. Thats only 18 games he didnt play in. Now we have another outfielder in Brandon Jones who needs some practice and this could work. Give Brandon some time on the field and Griffey some resting time. Allow some training time for Brandon and we can still sign Tex. If we get some decent pitching and I think we have two good ones coming in in Jurrjens and Jo Jo, then Tex willsign. He wants to win and the braves will be fair to him. Tex had it with losing teams. Hes having the time of his life. Dont think he will be that willing to move to a losing team for a little money.
By Coach (Lets Go Braves In 2008)
October 31, 2007 10:03 PM | Link to this
Your assuming that the Reds will pay half his salary. Assuming that Griffy can stay healthy enough to play more than 130 games in CF. Assuming that Griffy will defer money for the Braves to spend elsewhere. Assuming that the Braves will trade something of value for him. Other than all the assumption’s that you made Terence , it’s a great trade. Griffy did have a solid season in 2007 , his 30 HR / 93 RBI / .277 BA / 85 walk to 99 strikeout ratio / .372 OBP and .868 OPS was really good for a 37 year old player.
By Joseph
October 31, 2007 10:09 PM | Link to this
You really have lost your mind.
As it appears that any jackass can be a sports columnist for the AJC, I would like to apply for a job. I couldn’t do any worse than you or those other clowns.
By Bo
October 31, 2007 10:15 PM | Link to this
Not a bad idea. Would also help bring fans to games.
By the brick
October 31, 2007 10:17 PM | Link to this
By Navigator
October 31, 2007 10:17 PM | Link to this
I really like Griffey, but his propensity for long term injuries, really make him a bad investment.
By Steve
October 31, 2007 10:18 PM | Link to this
Good idea, but who is going to play center every day for two months after Junior Griffey tears his hamstring, pulls a glute, strains an achilles, or pops a knee? Willie Harris everyday in CF? What’s the backup? And NO, Schafer is not an option.
By H Lunceford
October 31, 2007 10:27 PM | Link to this
Griffey Jr. U say?? As long as we’re at it why not sign Barry Bonds too…. Plus Glavine, Schilling, and any other geriatric available…. Point is we need YOUNG SOUND ARMS…The kid just acquired in the Renteria trade is a good start….If we have to wait a year or so for development so be it…. It’s not like we havn’t waited before for championships…. Remember 91 and young Glavine, Smoltz, and Avery and acquiring Maddox in 92….Where’d that get us…. At the TOP for several years….
By Sri
October 31, 2007 10:33 PM | Link to this
Terence,
After a ridiculously absurd column regarding the UGA football players’ celebrating in last weekend’s game against Florida, you have redeemed yourself. You have reverted back to the mean after writing an outlier of a column, last week.
Not only would the clubhouse benefit from his presence, many of us fans would be excited to root for a genuinely nice guy! Common sense prevails in Terence Moore’s mind, after all. Is someone at Liberty Media listening??!!
By Thundersticks
October 31, 2007 10:39 PM | Link to this
I think the trade Wren is thinkin of is actually for Coco Crisp. He would be better defensively, although his bat is nearly anemic. Crisp in CF batting 8th and Frency in RF sounds better to me than Griffey in RF and Frenchy in CF. I’m sure Frenchy would be sufficient, but his arm would be better served in RF. The improved defense would also help the starting pitching. We have enough offense.
Having said all of that, I wouldn’t be totally opposed to having Griffey in a Braves uniform. He’s very hungry for a WS ring.
By Gary
October 31, 2007 10:49 PM | Link to this
I agree the Braves dynasty in the 90s was built around young solid pitching, but there were also a few short term vets aquired that really helped us out.. hello .. Pendleton was no spring chicken when we picked him up and what a boost he was. Plus he stuck around when he was through as a player and became a great coach. Griffey is several years younger than Bonds, Glavine, Schilling or some of the others and again, would be a bargain at 6 million, not 12. So what if he doesn’t play every day, that will give our future CFs a chance to play and show us what they can do. He is a great guy who will put fans in the park. I don’t have a problem with signing older veterans as long as you don’t overpay. That includes Glavine. Only sign him if you get a good deal and not as your 2 or 3. He’s a 4 on the staff that we want. If we don’t have 3 starters better than Glavine we’re in trouble.
By Glenn
October 31, 2007 10:50 PM | Link to this
As so many have said before…this is not fantasy ball..Glavine,Griffey,Giles okay print them Ws tickets up!!!
By quietman
October 31, 2007 10:53 PM | Link to this
Hey, why don’t we see if we can get Pete Rose, Jr. while we’re at it!
And maybe they dig up Sparky to replace Bobby.
Mr. Moore I’ve tried to remain objective with regard to your columns, but I have come to the conclusion that you must be an absolute moron.
By Matt the Brave
October 31, 2007 10:59 PM | Link to this
Wow, I think that this horse is dead enough, you can stop whipping it.
Why give up prospects for a guy who is 1) only under contract for one more year, and 2) has been hurt majorly every single year since he’s been in Cincinnati?
By AdirondackDave
October 31, 2007 11:08 PM | Link to this
I like Griffey if we can get him cheap, but only if he’s cheap.
By richbrave
October 31, 2007 11:09 PM | Link to this
Calling all bloggers. What’s the cost of A. Rowand? Yeah,yeah, he makes A. Jones-type catches look difficult, but he sure can hit - Braves pitching anyway. Sorry T.Mo you didn’t spin my head around with your very eloquent and logical arguement for Jr. With Renteria gone we need a strong, steady bat in the lineup that’s gonna force teams to pitch to Chip and Tex while worrying about Frenchie, Matt,Brian and Kelly.I saw strength up and down Boston’s line-up like the Braves had this year. If Rowand’s out there what $$$$ will it take to make him a Brave. Calling all BLOGGERS!! Save me from has-beens and wanna-be’s. Give me a productive bat in his prime. Thank you.
By OLDWHITEMAN
October 31, 2007 11:12 PM | Link to this
Elmer 9:45..I looked up COCO Crisp stat. and they were better than A Jones except Hrs. COCO hrs 6 TB 2o1 SB 28 only 28 years old switch hitter hits 141 OBP 330 Avg 268 lifetime 280 defense 998% FPCT 1 error PO 408 ….A Jones hits 127 OBP 311 Slg 413 Avg 222 defense FPCT 995% PO 394..I think you are right, he would fit in nice, lead off hitter.Give alot to Boston kids and keep player laughing in clubhouse. Wins games with his defense, heard that before.
By dee
October 31, 2007 11:16 PM | Link to this
Booooo…. Terrance
I’m taking a negative approach to every article TM writes, because that’s what he does to our city’s sports teams !
Boooooooo !
By gary
October 31, 2007 11:18 PM | Link to this
We still have Willie Harris?
By david
October 31, 2007 11:19 PM | Link to this
why dont we try and get torrie hunter instead of kg. torrie hunter is not injury prone like griffey is and he can still go get it.
By Scott in Dosta
October 31, 2007 11:29 PM | Link to this
I say we put our money into our pitching staff. The infield is in place and so is the outfield when you put Willie in center and rotate him with some of our younger talent. If that doesn’t pan out then we make a move at midseason. Let’s remember Kelly Johnson can play some pretty good outfield as well. We have options within our team as we speak. Solidify the starting rotation and let’s play ball!! We win the east by 5 games!!
By Patrick
October 31, 2007 11:32 PM | Link to this
Lets stop talking about Griffey..what about a pitching lineup of Smoltz, Hudson, Glavine, Schilling, Hampton/James..we could get at least 75 wins with this group alone!!! I ‘d come to see Schilling pitch.
By Patrick
October 31, 2007 11:35 PM | Link to this
Why not Willie Harris..by far the best catch of the year against the Mets..and he is affordable
By jim
October 31, 2007 11:44 PM | Link to this
I’d go see Schilling but not Glavine.
By Ken Strickland
October 31, 2007 11:45 PM | Link to this
I think acquiring Griffey would be an excellent move, but not to play CF. However, with Griffey in LF we could start one of our top CF prospects. Just imagine a lineup of (1)SS Escobar (2)2B Johnson (3)3B CJones (4)LF Griffey (5)1B Texeira (6&7)RF Francour/C McCann and (8)CF rookie. With our OFF/DEF and bullpen, we could be a reincarnation of the Big Red Machine of old. Get 6/7 innings out of our starters, score lots of runs and turn it over to the bullpen. Our OFF would hit for power and average without the strikeouts in the middle of the lineup that AJones was prone to have, especially in clutch situations.
As far as injuries are concerned, that’s a part of the gm. With Griffey playing LF, and speed in CF, he wouldn’t have to cover as much territory, or make as many difficult plays. We took a chance of another injury prone player, JD Drew, and that certainly turned out well. In fact, he had a career season that yr.
By rick
October 31, 2007 11:49 PM | Link to this
The Braves have enough hitting. Remember Andruw did nothing for us. His RBI’s and HR’s never came when we really needed them. Griffey will be hurt and we will be paying another salary to sit on the bench. Grab more pitching and a peskly CF who can run, handle the bat and play defense. We don’t need 30 HR’s and 100 RBI’s. We DO NEED DEFENSE. If you think Diaz and andruw-less CF won’t cause for a lot more hits to lcf you’re kidding yourself. Too bad KJ could not play CF it looks like Marcus is looking for a job. Maybe he’s learned he can’t swing like Pop-Eye ever swing. Or maybe not….
By Chris
October 31, 2007 11:55 PM | Link to this
TM, you are disgrace to writers on ajc. please stop writing about crap that CANT happen. braves fans, dont get too excited b/c there is 0 percent chance of this happening. and let me guess terrance, im just saying this b/c your black, right? geez
By Patrick
October 31, 2007 11:59 PM | Link to this
We have about 30 million to spend…where would the money best go?
By mike
November 1, 2007 12:14 AM | Link to this
Why is everyone so rude to Terrence? I really do think its about race, no one jumps on Dave obrian when he gives a questionable opinion. I remember DOB saying that when the Braves were interested in Rocco Baldeli that they go ahead and trade Escobar, Salty and Davies for him. How would that trade have panned out? Im not saying that either writer is better than the other or that they do not ever voice opinions that are unwise but just show the man some respect
By shawn
November 1, 2007 12:23 AM | Link to this
put him in left and play the kids in CF even platoon them. Now getting him is easier said than done
By ArkyTech
November 1, 2007 12:27 AM | Link to this
Nice thought. Problem is, Griffey has already been moved OUT of center field for a not-very-good team. Plus, there’s the whole injury factor that you absolutely cannot ignore. Acquiring Griffey to play CF means we would have to go find another CF to play when he gets hurt during the season.
I like Griffey and it’d be fun if it worked….just don’t think it would.
By Jobu
November 1, 2007 12:36 AM | Link to this
Griffey’s contract is for $12.5 mil next year but he also has a $16.5 mil club option with a $4 mil buyout for 2009. In other words taking him on for a year would cost $16.5 mil because I don’t think anyone would want to pick up that option. Unless Cincy really wants to get rid of him, I’m not sure how he fits into the Braves payroll scheme.
By scott
November 1, 2007 12:55 AM | Link to this
No one cares what you think…you Georgia hating hack. You didn’t go to college so I think the AJC should not let you comment on college games. I know this isn’t college related…but honestly, I feel you shouldn’t be allowed to coment on anything for the AJC. Any third grader could write like you.
By Rob Roberts
November 1, 2007 1:06 AM | Link to this
“DOB” David O’Brien couldn’t tote Terence’s jock strap!
By Bob in SF
November 1, 2007 1:50 AM | Link to this
Ahhh. It took until a month after the Bravos stopped playing but finally we get the annual T-Moore man-crush on Junior column. Too bad T forgets so many facts when he starts looking at his 8x12 glossy of Griffey and starts fantasizing about that chiseled frame being poured into a Braves uni. Terrence let’s get this straight: During the 90’s Junior Great Player, HOF’er! During this century: Junior Better then Avg. with spurts of Very Goodness when he actually plays, not worth big money. Not worth hindering the development of a younger, cheaper player who can play the outfield and run the bases without fear of a sphincter micro-tear or other bizarre muscular injury…
By Ralph
November 1, 2007 2:01 AM | Link to this
Griffey, is not a superstar anymore, that’s why he is so cheap. The Braves, have Chipper Jones, who is already an aging superstar, and gets hurt as much or more than Griffey, they are both have a very expensive health plan. That’s two who won’t be there all year long, to help anyone. The Braves would do better with a young center fielder, for the future, and again, predicting that the Braves won’t be in the running again next year, that would be a smart move. another thing about Griffey, is his attitude, which is not very good, desirable or should be tolerated. The Cincinnati Reds puts up with, his Temper Tantung, so the best way to avoid a major headache is not to get him.
By Derrick Caldwell
November 1, 2007 3:22 AM | Link to this
I think getting Griffey would be great for the clubhouse and leadership for the younger guys. He still has pop at the bat and he did play in 144 games this year.Play him in Rf or Lf and let him groom the younger guys if we can get for a decent trade.The man would love to play for the braves and getting out of Cincy maybe the best things for him to resume his hall of fame career plus he sell tickets that for sure.He is still a clutch hitter despite the unfortunate injuries he has have and he is defintely no worse that JD Drew and he is way younger than Griffey.I bet you Chipper and Smoltz would love to have him, Pitching is the priority but griffey would be nice with pitching also.He is a class act guy!!!
By Jim
November 1, 2007 4:07 AM | Link to this
Is Moore trying to find out how many times in a week he can be wrong? He is dead wrong calling out Dog’s Coach Richt and he is dead wrong about wanting the Braves to take on a gimpy, old outfielder. After watching him pull up lame in game in Chicago is enough for any one to know what a bad move this is. Did Dusty Baker call you and see if you could get someone to take him so he could go after Rowand or Hunter? Stupid! This is what I have come to expect from the AJC Sports Dept.
By Edo River
November 1, 2007 4:22 AM | Link to this
Terrence, Never, ever let it be said that you are not a “possibly” 1st rate sports columnist. i say “possibly” because I don’t read any other major paper sports columnists (not even ESPN propaganda…and you are VASTLY superior to many or most of those corporate sports yes-men).
BUT, Mr. Moore, your opinions, perhaps like artists before their time, are difficult………. to appreciate (as much as you do ;-).
Ken Griffey’s time has come and gone. Let us stand and cheer him on. Wish him the best. Let him replace Mr. Bonds, FGS. But not here, not now. This column is about…..7 years too late.
By Patrick
November 1, 2007 5:48 AM | Link to this
If we did this, it’d be our best option. Go Terrence, and the people up here in South Bend say hi.
By RA
November 1, 2007 5:52 AM | Link to this
I just wish Griffey were a little more sound… His talent is undeniable, but he’s held together with glue and scotch tape. I think we should look somewhere else…
By Elmer
November 1, 2007 6:29 AM | Link to this
Great idea, let’s do it!
By KevinM
November 1, 2007 6:48 AM | Link to this
TM,
I grew up with the BRMachine also. But I don’t think for one minute the Jr. makes this team better. If you can get him cheap, great. But why would the Reds trade him now? The Braves aren’t going to be giving much up for him. Also, he would have to play anything but CF.
By Bu
November 1, 2007 7:16 AM | Link to this
I’ve seen enough of Ken Griffey, especially at Spring Training to see that he is all about Ken Griffey. He does what he wants when he wants no matter who the manager would be. Pitching is where the Braves better put their $$$…it’s the name of the game, always has been. Griffey would not add to better chemistry on the team. Wren better tread lightly on this moronic move!
By Jim
November 1, 2007 7:20 AM | Link to this
He gets injured too much, and at his age I don’t see that problem going away, but getting worse. If we could get the early ’90s version of Griffey I would say hell yeah, but not now. We have enough problems getting Chipper through a season these days. I hope they spend the money on pitching, attempting to sign Tex, and signing Francoeur to a long term contract. This team has enough offense. Plug in one of the prospects in CF and let him learn on the job or trade for a cheap good defensive centerfielder (hell, we can bring Langerhans back if we have to).
By tonyd
November 1, 2007 7:31 AM | Link to this
Just another showing of bad judgement by Terrance Moore. What the Braves need is a Center Fielder who can stay on the field and not on the disabled list for the better part of the last 4 seasons. They have enough people on the disabled list now to start another team. Not a smart move.
Sounds similar to the call to sign the gimp from Jacksonville to the Falcons (who is on the INJURED list).
By Moore Is Less
November 1, 2007 7:41 AM | Link to this
If the NL ever goes to the DH, then Griffey Jr. is the answer.
Otherwise, the dude would be a major liability in the outfield.
By steve
November 1, 2007 7:48 AM | Link to this
Terrence we know you’ve always had a man crush on Griffey, but the guy is too injury prone, and way past his prime. What’s the upside? Nada.
By Connie
November 1, 2007 7:48 AM | Link to this
TM, Are you crazy?! KG is a great slugger when he is NOT on the DL. Him and Chipper will compete in who gets to sit out games. Just say no Wren, just say no!
By tonyd
November 1, 2007 7:50 AM | Link to this
Just another showing of bad judgement by Terrance Moore. What the Braves need is a Center Fielder who can stay on the field and not on the disabled list for the better part of the last 4 seasons. They have enough people on the disabled list now to start another team. Not a smart move.
Sounds similar to the call to sign the gimp from Jacksonville to the Falcons (who is on the INJURED list).
By Soul Man
November 1, 2007 7:51 AM | Link to this
Each year we’ll have Easter, Christmas and Terence Moore clamoring for the Braves to get Ken Griffey, Jr. Here are some things I’m surprised Terence doesn’t know: 1) We’re not saving all that much by losing Renteria. Yes, he made $9 million last year, but $4 million was paid by Boston. That means we only got $5 million worth of payroll wiggle room from that deal, which was still the right one to make. 2) A player deferring some of his contract to free up payroll dollars is a great gesture, but it doesn’t help that much. John Schuerholz said so in his book when he talked about Chipper offering to defer some of his contract so the Braves could sign Vinny Castilla. Deferring might help this year, but it creates budget problems down the line. The Braves can - and should - go cheaper than Griffey. The Braves next center fielder will be the Braves next center fielder for about a year after which a slew of young talent will be ready to play. Also, since trading for Griffey is the only way to get him, who do you propose we give up for him?
By wayne
November 1, 2007 7:56 AM | Link to this
Terrence Moore = Moron.
By h_charles
November 1, 2007 7:57 AM | Link to this
Um, Griffey can’t play CF anymore.
Also, the Reds have cleary indicated they want the kingdom for him in a trade. Numbers aside, they know losing Griffey would be a PR nightmare for a struggling team.
So, continue dreaming. Dream that Griffey is a 26 year old CF instead of an aging, injury prone OF who can’t play CF anymore.
Dream the Reds wouldn’t ask for Escobar and other top prospects for Griffey.
Dream that the miserly Braves would spend that much money on a short term solution.
Dreams are nice. Just keep them out of the AJC.
By The Murf
November 1, 2007 7:57 AM | Link to this
Too much $$$. Our team of the 90s was players brought up from within, we need to continue that trend
By bake
November 1, 2007 8:14 AM | Link to this
I think I just heard Griffey groan in pain when read TM’s column. Probably another torn groin…
By shake
November 1, 2007 8:16 AM | Link to this
Murf is a mornon. Pendleton. Bream. Maddux. McGriff. Nixon. A new closer every year. Yea…these were all home grown players. Know what you’re talking about before you make a comment.
By mart
November 1, 2007 8:20 AM | Link to this
The Braves don’t need a broken down, past his prime, retread. Getting Griffey now would be like signing Andruw Jones in 2016. Mr. Moore has been trying to get Griffey in a Braves uniform for about 15 years. Give it up.
By Jeff R
November 1, 2007 8:35 AM | Link to this
Unfortunately, Griffey is far too injury prone. Besides, what would it take for the Reds to give him up? I wouldn’t want the Braves to part with younger, high caliber prospects just to have Griffey in the line up for a couple of seasons (barring injuries).
I don’t know about the availability of Chris Duffy (Pirates), and he’s coming off an injury, too, but he’s a younger, capable CF who the Braves could get for a reasonable price. And he doesn’t have a big contract to satisfy. He’d be a good gap-filler until the younger talent is ready for the majors.
By daxxed
November 1, 2007 8:48 AM | Link to this
The Braves need to utilize that extra money for pitching, we have plenty of talent to fill the outfield.
By Byron P.
November 1, 2007 8:49 AM | Link to this
As a Reds fan from Ohio this interests me. The Reds absolutely need to trade outfielders. They have: Dunn, Hopper (the only true lead-off man they have), Hamilton (who may hit more homeruns than Dunn within 2 years), Jay Bruce (minor leaque Player of the Year), Griffy and even Joey Votto (who is slated for 1st but played some LF). All but Hopper can probably hit 30+ HR/year if played full-time. But, the problem is this: the Reds need at least one more good starter (not mediocre). I don’t think that the Braves have one that they are willing to give up. That doesn’t mean it couldn’t happen, the Reds might just want to move Griffy to ope up a spot. But, I doubt it.
By Hip Czech
November 1, 2007 8:53 AM | Link to this
Griffey would be the worst move the Braves have ever made. He’d be fine until June, then kiss his production goodbye for the rest of the year. Even considering it is asinine.
I’ll take Rowand or Torii Hunter thank you very much.
By NoogaBrave
November 1, 2007 8:54 AM | Link to this
Thank you TM….I finally enjoyed reading a column written by you. I never thought it would happen.
By daddio
November 1, 2007 9:01 AM | Link to this
Sure we need Griffey because Mike Hampton gets pretty lonely at times on the DL. We need a rising star, not a falling one.
By richbrave
November 1, 2007 9:01 AM | Link to this
Hey T.Mo., Bloggers don’t seem to be buying the Jr. hypothesis nor someone who’s ready to play center that’s in his prime. What now?? I’ll check with the Bird and get back with you ?? Awaiting your response—wake me when you’re ready.
By Mark
November 1, 2007 9:05 AM | Link to this
Terence- You’ve forgiven Richt, but sensible readers can’t forgive you for your horrible writing.
Great theory on Griffey- but what do the Braves have left to trade and why trade the future for another 1yr player who will probably be on the DL more than not. BTW Brent Lillibridge is a SS not a CF.
Isn’t it time for you to take a vacation. Let Bradley and Schultz do the writing please.
By CaptainPirate
November 1, 2007 9:07 AM | Link to this
Lillibridge is ready now….No need to trade good prospects for a CF….Spend the money on pitching, pitching, pitching and more pitching. Lillibridge had great spring last year and shows great promise with his hustle, speed and bat control….give him a chance.
By Chris
November 1, 2007 9:13 AM | Link to this
I had no idea Griffey would be that affordable, at least in the short term. If that’s the case, I’d be all for trading a couple of prospects (please not Lillbridge) to get him. I would not, however, like to see him in center. He’s too injury-prone and has honestly lost a step or two in his later years. He’s still got some wheels, but I’d be afraid he’d hurt his hamstring again trying to run down a fly ball.
Francoeur in center would be a waste of the cannon he has attached to his shoulder. Again, this leaves us in a bit of a bind with good guys on the corners, but no honest-to-goodness CF.
If the Red Sox would be willing to part with Coco Crisp without making us totally empty our farm system, he’d be a viable option. Speed and decent OBP, which is what we need. We don’t need more power in the lineup. That’s what Teixeira, Chipper, Francoeur, and McCann provide. We need someone with some wheels that can hit for decent average, take the extra base once in a while and allow us to play some small-ball. Crisp is a pretty good defensive CF too.
By Craig
November 1, 2007 9:19 AM | Link to this
That is just dumb. Why would you want to invest in a 38 year old outfielder who doesn’t have the range of a centerfielder anymore, and who’s missed an average of 59 games a year the last 5 years? That is just nonsense. At age 38 he’s going to magically stay healthy for 145+ games? I think not.
By glenn hitchcock
November 1, 2007 9:23 AM | Link to this
If they can get him for 1 million, yes. Has ever carried his team to a world championship?
By TBraveFan
November 1, 2007 9:27 AM | Link to this
I can’t believe anyone in their right mind would want to see Jr on their team… granted no one’s ever accused Moore of being in his right mind.
This would be right up there with the dumbest move of all time - adding someone who is the King of the DL - even in his younger days - when we have so many other options in house….
Sheesh…… (rolling eyes) pathetic
By c
November 1, 2007 9:30 AM | Link to this
I’m not a big fan of this idea, but if I had too choose between Griffey and Cameron, I’d obviously go with Griffey. Mike Cameron is like a less talented Preston Wilson. Every team that signs Mike Cameron regrets it down the line (a la JDL Drew).
By JL
November 1, 2007 9:32 AM | Link to this
Terrence - maybe you can go to Cincy and be with Griffey instead of him coming here. I know that would make a lot of people happy, especially me.
By steve
November 1, 2007 9:33 AM | Link to this
Bad move. TM, please think with your head and not with … whatever it is that you think with. Nothing against Junior - he is still a good ball player, but not as good as the $ the Braves would pay for him - simply because of his name, history, reputation, etc. Griffey would play well (when he wasn’t injured) but not to the superstar level he once could. And even though the Braves could get him for (seemingly) less it still would be too high for his playing value. The Braves need to maximize their playing value for the payroll $s spent. They have too much now being spend on players who are not producing to the proper levels. The Braves need starting pitching first and foremost, second they need starting pitching, third they need starting pitching. Then, after successfully handling those they can obtain another outfielder (hopefully one that can steal bases). :)
By ebj
November 1, 2007 9:38 AM | Link to this
We all love Griffey. Let’s face it, Griffey is injury proned. We must stick to healthy youth players. In order to be top winners next year, we must grab the top young players. Incentives…incentives…..incentives……Players must earn the top dollars. I will repeat……..read my lips………
By Chad
November 1, 2007 9:39 AM | Link to this
If there is an opportunity to upgrade both the starting pitching and the center field slot, then do what ya gotta do. If we could promote within for center field and get 2 proven pitchers, we’ll be in dandy shape. Overall, Griffey sounds like someone that will put butts in the stands and sounds like we can get him for peanuts, get him!!! Go Braves!!
By Bob Horner
November 1, 2007 9:42 AM | Link to this
Yeah Terrence - $12 mil to a guy who is hurt every single year. He’s the most brittle player in the game, and if he hits .270 25 90, it’s considered a stellar year for him. If he plays in over 120 games, it’s a miracle. In my opinion, those numbers aren’t worth that kind of money.
By Mike
November 1, 2007 9:46 AM | Link to this
More like a stint on the Braves’ DL. Griffey can’t play an entire season without being hurt. (See Mike Hampton) No thanks. Yet another brilliant idea by the clueless Mr. Moore!
By ebdawg
November 1, 2007 9:47 AM | Link to this
Griffey would never last in CF. He’s been hurt so much the past 5 years, there is no way I would count on him. RF maybe, but not CF. Terrence your an idiot. Please move to another town… I’m so sick of your pathetic articles !!!
By Charlie Johnson
November 1, 2007 9:47 AM | Link to this
After you threw Coach Richt under the bus for his bold and brilliant motivational move against Florida, I considered never reading another column. Today you have redeemed yourself. Stay on the straight and narrow… Go Braves and Dogs!
By baseball fan
November 1, 2007 9:48 AM | Link to this
The AJC has the worst sports columnist in the nation. They have no clue as to what is going on in the sports world. KEN GRIFFEY JR. IS NO LONGER A CENTER FIELDER! He was moved because of age, declining skills and chance of injury. And no he can’t be moved back to that position because it will greatly increase the likelihood he would get hurt for the 100th time. The last thing the braves need is more high priced walking wounded veteran players.
FIRE TERRANCE MOORE!
By SKC
November 1, 2007 9:48 AM | Link to this
I guess Braves fans all around the world dont want two things. Ken Griffey Jr and Mr Tom Glavine. Guess that settles it all.
By Steve
November 1, 2007 9:54 AM | Link to this
The Reds trading Junior would be great for the Reds. If you have even watched a Reds game lately you would realize he isn’t a Center Fielder anymore. He covers no ground and his arm is a mess. That is why he plays RF. The reds have better chance at competing next year then the braves if you did your homework and saw the likes of Jay Bruce, Johnny Cueto, and Joey Votto.
By Casey
November 1, 2007 9:54 AM | Link to this
Great Idea!! Wren, I would like to pre-order my Griffey jersey now. Thanks
By Forrest Gump
November 1, 2007 9:59 AM | Link to this
Since Mr. Moore attributed Greg Maddux’s Cy Young Awards to Andruw Jones (Jones was not on the team at the time), I don’t read his error-filled column any more. But I do agree with the headline in this case.
By ebj
November 1, 2007 10:02 AM | Link to this
Finally.Mr. Moore, you must look at the big picture. No longer can you use the name of the player. Examine the total picture…..handsome guy…..nice guy……famous guy…..family man……..etc. Mr. Moore, Griffey will survive baseball by becoming a designated hitter. Finally, veterans are great but not too many. I could settle for Griffey as a pinch hitter. Comment anyone?
By JGarnett
November 1, 2007 10:03 AM | Link to this
Ive loved Jr. since i was a little kid but even i realized he WONT play an entire season because hes ALWAYS injured! SO that being said……Terrence, who would his backup be???
By GE
November 1, 2007 10:11 AM | Link to this
Getting Griffey only makes sense if he is healthy. I do not believe that he is healthy.Obviously, Tex would be a better investment. However, if he has a bang up season next year, our chances of signing him with Boras as his agent will not be good.Griffey is cheaper so go after him but do not give up the young talent. Put Brandon Jones somewhere in the outfield along with the new guy from Detroit(Hernandez) and move forward. We had better be looking for some pitching. And please, do not sign Glavine.
Oh, for those experts who think that we will not miss Druw, who else will catch everything in sight, hit 20 plus homers, drive in 90 plus runs and consider it a bad year. Forget the batting average. He has a bad year, and the Braves give up on him to save money for another free agent who they will be bidding for his services against the Yankees, Red Sox and Mets in 2009. Which one of the remaining Braves can play first base?
By Morris Hames
November 1, 2007 10:11 AM | Link to this
Why should the Braves settle for Griffey and/or Glavine? Aren’t there older, more worn-out, past their prime players we can get?
By LeeB39
November 1, 2007 10:13 AM | Link to this
No way the Braves need a worn out ball player. If we are going to lose, then let us lose with young ball players that have a future.
By aks is dumb
November 1, 2007 10:15 AM | Link to this
I can’t believe you’re getting paid to write these idiotic ideas Terence
By Warren
November 1, 2007 10:16 AM | Link to this
I thought the Braves were trying to save money by not signing Andruw, we don’t need another Mr. Wonderful,Jr.
By TomahawkSlinginInDC
November 1, 2007 10:21 AM | Link to this
Well first, I don’t believe Mr. Griffey plays CF anymore, he doesn’t have the arm ( or eyes in my opinion); With that, H E L L no! Have we not learned anything from Mike Hampton, Mike Byrd, JD Drew & others? Please Wren, no more “fragile & feeble” players. Thanks In Advance.
By kick start
November 1, 2007 10:23 AM | Link to this
Why wait, get it while you can…TORRI, TORRIE, TORIE Hunter.
By Brett
November 1, 2007 10:28 AM | Link to this
Absolutely not!! Please don’t bring Griffey with all his injuries to the Braves. If the only options are Griffey or Mike Cameron, then Griffey…certainly not Cameron who has just tested positive. I hope that scared the Braves off, but who knows? Why not go after a real cf who can help for several years…offensively and defensively, make an offer to Aaron Rowan from the Phils before any other move is made.
By CW
November 1, 2007 10:31 AM | Link to this
Well, we can definitely count on TM at least once a year for a “Get Griffey” column! Got it in early I see!
By Bill
November 1, 2007 10:32 AM | Link to this
The Reds aren’t going to trade Ken Griffey Jr. Maybe after he hits #600. Until then, the Reds need him to lure drones into the ballpark.
By Whatthe?
November 1, 2007 10:33 AM | Link to this
The better question would then be… who will play center while Griffey sits on the DL half the season or more??
By Frank
November 1, 2007 10:33 AM | Link to this
Good idea if you want to go back to the Old days and the way the Braves got players just to put a few folks in seats but not if they want to win long term. Besides how many games would he play before getting injured?
By MikeY
November 1, 2007 10:35 AM | Link to this
I’d rather see Kenny Lofton than Griffey. Lofton played CF more than LF last year, and is a proven winner. Plus we need more team speed. Ley Kenny hold down CF till the youngsters are ready…
By Braves4Ever
November 1, 2007 10:44 AM | Link to this
If you want to deal with the Reds, cool, but since they have the surplus of OF and a BIG need for pitching, Maybe a few relievers and a C James or Bennett would work. But let’s target Josh Hamilton or Ryan Freel , IMO , better options than Griffey at this point in time.
By Carroll
November 1, 2007 10:47 AM | Link to this
I have nothing against Griffey. In fact, i expressed the same exact sentiment when everyone was going crazy with Tex-fever around the deadline, and of course i was proved right.
Before terrence or Furman or any of you bloggers suggest going after any player, ask yourself one question: can dude pitch? If the answer is no, then I am at a loss to see how he could make a meaningful difference to this team.
By Glenn
November 1, 2007 10:54 AM | Link to this
I’m sorry Terrence but you must be completely out of your mind.
By DB
November 1, 2007 10:57 AM | Link to this
Go after pitching, maybe a Curt Shilling….
By joe
November 1, 2007 11:04 AM | Link to this
reds fan here please take griffey and make our season. bruce is our next superstar
By Why does Terence still have a job?
November 1, 2007 11:04 AM | Link to this
He’s a writer who can’t write.
Maybe the Braves should look at Michael Vick at CF.
By Why does Terence still have a job?
November 1, 2007 11:05 AM | Link to this
He’s a writer who can’t write.
Maybe the Braves should look at Michael Vick at CF. Clarence Thomas? As long as they’re black, Terence will be happy.
By Chris
November 1, 2007 11:06 AM | Link to this
Chipper 3, Tex 4 and Griffey 5? Yeah, I kinda like the way that sounds. When Brian McCann and Jeff Francoeur have to hit 6 & 7 in your lineup, that’s a pretty nasty squad. If we can get Griffey on the cheap (if the Reds covered $5-6 million), this makes a whole lot of sense.
Of course, acquiring a quality starting pitcher is the highest priority, so Griffey should take a back seat to that. But if we can get a SP and land Griffey as well, right on.
By ChrisFromChatt
November 1, 2007 11:07 AM | Link to this
Terence … ol’ buddy. You’re back on the pipe again. This guy can’t play CF anymore (unless Francouer agrees to catch EVERYTHING to Griffey’s left!) The next issue is injury. It’s been a real FLUKE that he’s played some baseball the last couple of years because typically he plays about as often as Hampton! Get a grip, Moore! Are you nuts? Seriously, sometimes I wonder if this guy has ANY idea what he’s talking about. How does someone with so LITTLE knowledge obtain his stature? Unbelievable.
By Tim
November 1, 2007 11:11 AM | Link to this
Wishful thinking. If the Reds parted with him when he was on the verge of 600 homers, then they are dumber than I thought. Right now he’s the only draw for Reds fans. With the influx of Reds outfielders it would make sense to move one of them. Since they just picked up Dunn’s option that’s out. You know they won’t part with slugger Josh Hamilton, so it does make Junior the odd man out; especially with youngster Jay Bruce waiting in the wings. It would make more sense if the Braves waited till 2009 when he’s a free agent, but I have to agree they can’t wait that long unless they truly want to re-build with young players. Then again as I said before, Wayne Krivsky is about as bright as Alaska in December. He’s trying to turn the Reds into the Minnesota Twins…even heard rumbling or trying to acquire Torri Hunter.
By PN
November 1, 2007 11:14 AM | Link to this
It would be stupid to give up any talent for Griffey, especially to have him play CF where he has proven he cannot physically handle anymore. I have no clue what his contract numbers are, but I’m willing to bet it’s a lot more than Aaron Rowand will demand (12-13Mil). I’ll take Aaron Rowand over Griffey.
By GT
November 1, 2007 11:15 AM | Link to this
Braves have made a living not doing exactly what Moore is wanting them to do. Remember the Braves in the 70’s that is a move they would have made.
By Stop Making Uninformed Comment If You Not A Season Ticket Holder...I GOTS MINE, YA DIG
November 1, 2007 11:18 AM | Link to this
Unlike the Falcon’s blog. I agree with you T.M. That would make the most sense.
By Joseph
November 1, 2007 11:20 AM | Link to this
Sir, while we may not see eye to eye when it comes to my Bulldogs, it appears we are quite like minded when it comes to the Braves. Griffey was the greatest baseball talent my generation saw. If it had not been for a few ill timed injuries, Barry Bonds sacreligious assault on Hank Aaron’s HR mark would have been little more than a headline reading Bonds moves to #2 on the all time HR rankings. I would love to see him join the Braves for the remainder of his career. I believe he would be an excellent addition to the team both in production and leadership.
By Carroll
November 1, 2007 11:22 AM | Link to this
Chris: that lineup would like nice…in 2003. But how many games do you honestly believe that you’d have a healthy Chipper AND Griffey together in the lineup? Certainly not enough to make up for the fact that we would STILL HAVE NO PITCHING!!!!!!!!!
By Chris
November 1, 2007 11:26 AM | Link to this
Well, PN, if you had actually read the article, you would know what Griffey’s contract numbers are. But I guess it’s asking a bit much to read something before you comment on it, huh?
And I’m noticing a lot of anti-Terence speech here. I’m guessing the Puppies are still upset about T. Moore calling out Saint Richt.
By RKS
November 1, 2007 11:27 AM | Link to this
Terrance why don’t you hire him and we’ll see how many articles he writes for you while he’s out on injuries. Get real. We don’t need sentimental baseball players we need healthy, full time productive players. Replace Smoltzy - Chipper salary and build a really new team. The Braves can trade everybody but why not those two. Are they the “FACE OF THE BRAVES”? The Braves are the only team in the league that would carry those two, especially at the salaries they are paid. IT’S TIME FOR A CHANGING OF THE OLD GUARD.
No Glavine or Maddux either!!!!!!!
Terrence you need to change the Kool-Aid you’re drinking.
By braves suck
November 1, 2007 11:28 AM | Link to this
He hasnt played a full season since he left the AL, whats the point!!!!
By Chris
November 1, 2007 11:29 AM | Link to this
It’s only 1 year, people. He has 1 year left on his contract. All this does is give us a quality CF for 1 year while our young talent gets ready. And if he gets hurt, and T. Moore is right about Cincy picking up half his salary, well, you’re only out $6 million and you go ahead and bring up one of the young kids. It’s not a bad deal, folks. You just can’t give up too much talent, but luckily, too much talent is something the Braves have.
By FOR WHAT
November 1, 2007 11:29 AM | Link to this
Why not just pay the man that you had?! As someone correctly pointed out to me, Andruw did a lot more for the Braves than he got credit for. Remember that if he didn’t catch many of those balls, it would have affected the outcome of many games and some pitchers’ ERA.
Like Griffy, but he’s no Andruw these days.
By Baseball Fan
November 1, 2007 11:29 AM | Link to this
Time for the Braves to get Griffey? No, its time for the AJC to get rid of you.
By kerrell goolsby
November 1, 2007 11:32 AM | Link to this
First fix the pitching needs, get Hampton healthy and then worry about a centre fielder. Griffey is a DL of his own and there aren’t that many hospitals in Atlanta that can patch him up. The Braves need to rethink their position on Andruw and get him back on the roster asap! I am tired of losing our homegrown guys to other clubs (Glavine, Marcus Giles, Furcal, et al) and it’s time that the Braves send those carpet-baggers from Time Warner packing!
By Bare E. Bonds
November 1, 2007 11:34 AM | Link to this
I’d take Griffey if the season was 82 games and NOT 162 games.
By BW
November 1, 2007 11:37 AM | Link to this
I doubt the Braves would make that trade. Terence, you didn’t think this one out. As a Reds fan, we need pitching. We wouldn’t give him away for pennies on the dollar to get rid of him. He does put people in the seats. Why would the Braves trade decent pitching prospects or pitchers for someone that is only going to play a couple more years?
By GE
November 1, 2007 11:37 AM | Link to this
Is it just me, or does this blog regarding the opening in centerfield make you wonder why the Braves released Druw(cannon arm, injury prone,speed, hitting, unable to sign Tex in 2009, pitching,pitching, pitching, steroids,Lofton, Crisp, Hampton, Glavine,Hunter, Freel, Hamilton,Drew, Byrd,Rowan,Maddux/Cy Young,wheels, etc.)in the first place? With all this crap, you have the audacity to refer to Terrence as an idiot.LOL.
By Chris
November 1, 2007 11:38 AM | Link to this
Well, Carroll, I stated that pitching needed to be addressed first. SO CHILL OUT AND STOP YELLING!!! Jesus, people. Did everyone on here eat some bad candy or something last night?
By dgd
November 1, 2007 11:39 AM | Link to this
Wow—what a lot of vitriol. Lay off the nasty and personal comments on TM. Agree or disagree but why do you you feel the need to be so personal in your attacks on the man? He’s NOT the Braves beat writer and therefore doesn’t follow every detail the way DOB does—he’s a columnist who is supposed to occassionally comment on ALL of the teams. Griffey’s a great player but it’s hard to see the Braves justifying the cost in dollars or minor league talent. Crisp might be a good stopgap, but I’d wait and see what Lillibridge can do in CF first….
By Chris
November 1, 2007 11:40 AM | Link to this
If anyone on here thinks Andruw is worth what Boras is asking, I think you must’ve had some beer with your Coors Light this morning.
By Nitz
November 1, 2007 11:41 AM | Link to this
Griffey would be a great fit. The Braves need to make a run over the next 2 -3 years. The Braves need to spend the extra money on Pitching
By Brad
November 1, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this
I agree with most of you that we need to focus on pitching but we also have to fill the void in CF. I think it’s reasonable for TM to discuss the topic. IF we could get Griffey at the price TM claims, it’s a good deal… and it puts butts in the seats to help pay for Tex’s demands next year. I know I’d buy more tickets if Griffey was in CF or RF. I think Frenchy can play CF for 2 seasons until Schafer is ready.
By Sanderino123
November 1, 2007 11:45 AM | Link to this
Picking up Griffey makes no sense. All you’ll get is a guy that will be sitting with Chipper on the bench for 80+ games. I would rather see them pick up A-Rod and trade Chipper. Think of the lineup. Johnson, Escobar, A-Rod, Texeria, McCann, Francouer, Diaz, CenterField, and Pitcher. BTW Dump Hampton and his $15 Million salary when you trade Chipper…
By dacow
November 1, 2007 11:45 AM | Link to this
Griffey has been realtively healthy for the last couple of years but he CANNOT run, AT ALL. He can’t play centerfield any longer. He no longer has range. I mean his range is his shadow and thats it. He can still swing the stick though.
By Mitsy
November 1, 2007 11:45 AM | Link to this
Oh, I LOVE this idea! I truly hope the Braves get Ken Griffey, Jr.
By Oldawg
November 1, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this
You do realize that Griffey is 38 years old and has a history of injury - Right???
By RUBE
November 1, 2007 11:53 AM | Link to this
Here we go again. Yesterday I complained that we keep trading away our future for rent-a-players. HERE WE GO AGAIN we are going to give up our quote untouchable prospects for Griffey. How many trades did we make and give up star prospects for, only to have our new rent-a-player get injured on their first play or leave 60 days later as a free agent????? HELLO!! IS ANYONE LISTENING??? Our future can be found in our own minor league system. Right now we need to only focus on PITCHING, PITCHING,PITCHING,and MORE PITCHING!!!!!
By Chris
November 1, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this
**Oldawg,”” you do realize it’s only for 1 year - Right??? You people act like T. Moore is advocating signing the man to a 5-year, $70 million deal.
By Chris
November 1, 2007 12:01 PM | Link to this
OK, Rube, then who plays CF? Yes, we DO need pitching. But guess what? We ALSO need a CF. So what’s your plan then?
By HomeSlice
November 1, 2007 12:03 PM | Link to this
Listening to MLB Home Plate 175 on XM Satellite Radio this morning, I smiled as the hostes mentioned this article, as well as its biased, SEVERE-chip-on-the-shoulder author, and ripped the stupidity of this idea to pieces.
I’m glad I am not the only person who thinks the author should save ideas this ill-conceived for FALCONS topics.
By Mr. Peepers
November 1, 2007 12:06 PM | Link to this
I’d rather have Julio Franco play center than to bring Griffey Jr in. Maybe we can find out what brett butler, lenny dyskstra or andy van slyke are doing these days.
By Enrique Guzman
November 1, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this
How about a trade to the Boston Red Sox for Coco Crisp? He brings a Gold-Glove quality Center Fielder and a potential leadoff hitter. Also the BoSox don’t have a need for him now due to the emergence of Jacoby Ellsbury and they will probably look to trade him. His salary would be something like $4.5 million in 2008 and a think like $6 million in 2009. I think is a win-win for both organizations to make a trade and he would be a perfect fit for the Braves until the youngsters are ready.
By NB-C
November 1, 2007 12:08 PM | Link to this
This is a BAD IDEA. Living an hour away from Cincy, I’ve seen Griffey, Jr. be loved and adored by Reds fans but he HASN’T produced. He’s always hurt. He’s not the player we remember from the Seattle days.
I was thrilled when Andruw got shown the door, but let’s not invest in this disaster.
By Patrick
November 1, 2007 12:11 PM | Link to this
This is nothing more than a “Terence Moore Fairytale!” The Braves are not going to sign a 38 yr old fossil to hobble around centerfield with a cane. Maybe…..Griffey to rightfield, and Frenchie to center??? Thats more realistic since Griffey doesnt play Center anymore. This would be totally out of character for the Braves office though.
By Ole Man Bourbon
November 1, 2007 12:14 PM | Link to this
Terrible idea! Griffey is the last thing this team needs. Sheesh.
By braves84
November 1, 2007 12:17 PM | Link to this
I agree w/ Fred at the beginning of this(6:46pm). We need to make something happen this year. I unfortunately believe as well that Tex is 1 more and done, Chipper and Smoltz aren’t getting any younger. The problem is Griffy isn’t a CF anymore. His arm isn’t strong enough and he is hardly ever going to play too many games w/o an injury. We also only need someone for 1 year,2 years max before our kids are ready. That being said, if we could get him for 1 or 2 years, have Cinci pay part of his salary and put him at a corner OF position, I say go for it. He is worth more than just what he adds as a player. He would be popular and people would pay to see him(before his next stop-HOF), I would.
GO BRAVES!!
By David
November 1, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this
WHY in the world would the Braves want to get another player to sit on the bench everytime m he has a hang nail? It’s been shown time after time that this over paid supposed player has no intention of doing what it takes to get into shape and stay healthy in order to benefit any team. He has no loyalty to anyone but himself and certrainly not to his team mates.
By humbug
November 1, 2007 12:25 PM | Link to this
By dufferdawg
November 1, 2007 12:27 PM | Link to this
TM..Please, please…pretty please…move to Cincy. We can take up a collection for your moving expenses…anyone else willing to pitch in ?
By NSHS FAN
November 1, 2007 12:28 PM | Link to this
The article by Mr. Moore is just an opinion. We all have our thoughts about a particular issue. When comments such as idiot, stupid, dumb come out of the mouths of bloggers as: by tolllazza, by Andy, Don Norsworthy, by Mark, by Matt, by Joseph, by Glenn, by Chris, by eddawg, they are just mean and cruel. Keep in mind there is someone on your job that probably thinks that you are an idiot, stupid, dumb, etc. If not of you> they say the same things about your wife, son, daughter, mom or dad. We North Easterns at one thing felt the same of you guys. The bottomline is, you can diagree with anyone but name calling is not necessary. Please stop!
By braves84
November 1, 2007 12:30 PM | Link to this
Elmer, I like the Coco Crisp idea better. 4-5 million is nothing compared to todays starting CF. The only snag-which would be a snag in any deal-who do we give up?
Also, I just posted taking KG and using him at a corner OF position. Yes he is oft injured but if we are only responsible for a fraction of his salary it would be a deal. He played more the last season since 1999-2000. And like I said, he is super popular.
I usually always disagree w/ Terence(and his everyone is against the black man), but bringing KG in for a short stint might not be that bad of an idea. It sounds better this year than in years past.
Hunter wants too much, Cameron(who I wanted earlier)is suspended and our youngsters aren’t quite ready. Why not KG?
By Marty
November 1, 2007 12:34 PM | Link to this
One of the worst ideas in the history of bad ideas. We need to keep young talent not give it away for an aging brittle former star. Give one of our young guys a shot at CF or go get middle of the road guy as a stop gap, but not Griffey. PLEASE!
By BrvesFn08
November 1, 2007 12:38 PM | Link to this
Griffey would be a great add to the Braves; just not in CF. He had a good year and stayed relatively healthy last year probably because he shifted to RF. He is not “The Kid” anymore and CF is just too much on his body to play a full season. We should pick up a speedy CF who can man the postion until the youngsters are ready to move up to the bigs. All that to say; bring him to town and move him to LF. I’d love to see him in a Braves uniform!
By Joseph
November 1, 2007 12:42 PM | Link to this
Sir, while we may not see eye to eye when it comes to my Bulldogs, it appears we are quite like minded when it comes to the Braves. Griffey was the greatest baseball talent my generation saw. If it had not been for a few ill timed injuries, Barry Bonds sacreligious assault on Hank Aaron’s HR mark would have been little more than a headline reading Bonds moves to #2 on the all time HR rankings. I would love to see him join the Braves for the remainder of his career. I believe he would be an excellent addition to the team both in production and leadership.
By Realistic Ricky
November 1, 2007 12:42 PM | Link to this
TM must just be out of things to write about. Fortunately, JS is still “on watch” and will not let Wren do anything that dumb. Priority #1 will be more starting pitching, #2 will be re-signing Tex, #3 will be signing Francouer to a long term contract and then #4 will be doing something about CF for the short term. Never fear, JS is still here. Go Braves!!!
By Carroll
November 1, 2007 12:42 PM | Link to this
Chris: I know you gave lip service to getting pitching first, but you can’t be serious about that if you’re talking about getting Griffey. bottom line, if we spend the kind of money it would take to get griffey, means we can afford no significant pitching additions.
By Jeff
November 1, 2007 12:46 PM | Link to this
Has anyone who has posted a comment here thus far ever been a part of a major league baseball team (or any other baseball team for that matter)?
To read all of these comments though, one might mistakenly think that they were from either Griffey’s teammates or Reds management. The reality is that no one who has posted a comment here thus far has a clue about what Ken Griffey, Jr. is capable of doing or what the Reds will or will not do regarding him.
By RD
November 1, 2007 12:47 PM | Link to this
Good article on JR. Man, what a plus that would be. I’m not going to think about it—-I don’t want to jinx it.
Say, any starting pitcher out there that would be a good fit for the Braves more so than some others?
By GM
November 1, 2007 12:54 PM | Link to this
Why keep longing for the over-the-hill players way past their prime and prone to injuries? What if there is a better CF already in the Braves organization? Why make him wait 1 or 2 years to play? Lets get a solid #3 starter and I don’t mean Glavine, fill the 4th and 5th spots with Reyes, Bennett, James or the new guy from Detroit, sign Tex to a long term deal and find the CF from within the organization.
By Look at me, I can be CF
November 1, 2007 12:55 PM | Link to this
C’mon TM, we all know that you want Jr. for one reason and one reason only, even if he is a has-been. Keep on writing your mind numbing drivel, however. Your aspirations of adequacy may be realized someday.
By Dick
November 1, 2007 12:56 PM | Link to this
We already have a Griffey. His name is Hampton. They both sit on bench injured majority of the time. Wedon;t need another, Chipper is about as bad
By Joe
November 1, 2007 12:58 PM | Link to this
Sounds Good but one fact remains JR is hurt most of the season.
By bebann
November 1, 2007 1:00 PM | Link to this
Why is TM a sports writer? Rarely does he even know what he is writing about. All the Braves need is another injury prone older player siphoning off funds that could be used to purchase decent starting pitching.
By Scott D.
November 1, 2007 1:01 PM | Link to this
I’m a Reds fan and saw the headline. I’m in favor of trading Griffey, however, I don’t see the Reds eating much if any of his contract. The Reds have a crowded outfield with the Reds best prospect Jay Bruce in waiting. Reds needs are starting and relief pitching and in my opinion catcher. The Reds may be gun shy trading with Braves as the Reds have got burned on several occassions in past trades for pitching with the Braves. I would make the trade for a couple blue chip Double AA pitchers (no salary eat).
By CHOPPY
November 1, 2007 1:02 PM | Link to this
There are several problems with this idea TMoore.
By STH
November 1, 2007 1:05 PM | Link to this
think Ken is the way to go, sell tickets as hall of famer finish’s his career, still enuogh $ to sign a hall of famer starter. Please not Glavine unless he is our #4 starter. Lets remeber we gave Glavine a 3 year offer w/ a 4th year option. mets gave him 4 year garr. for only 1 million more. If he would stayed and just played , when he stayed the 4th year, we would have been payin him 1 million more than the mets. Now he wants act as if he is loyal…..please Tommy - and he would have about the same amount of wins as Maddux if he would of stayed here instead of waiting til the mets built a winning team. Santana my be available……for a big $
By Solomon
November 1, 2007 1:13 PM | Link to this
How do you have this job? really! your one of the worst columnist in the country!
By THEO
November 1, 2007 1:16 PM | Link to this
Okay Mr. Fantasy Baseball guy, Once again you are an idiot. Were you not around last year when we traded 5 prospects for Tex? Exactly who do you think the Reds want from us? Griffey will not be traded until the trade deadline to a contender. Besides another power hitter on the DL is just what we need. Who do you think would play center when Griffey goes on the DL? Please don’t say Harris, if you do then you are smoking more pot than Vick!
By Yellow Jacket
November 1, 2007 1:20 PM | Link to this
Griffey will get hurt just signing the contract, ya dummy.
By Mike in 'Fretta
November 1, 2007 1:20 PM | Link to this
Coco Crisp to play Centerfield for the Braves??? What’s next signing Capn’ Cruch and Dig ‘Em to round out the starting pitching? Maybe we should see if Toucan Sam is available for Left Field - I hear he can cover a lot of ground.
Coco Crisp sucks Ballz.
By Mike from NC
November 1, 2007 1:22 PM | Link to this
We don’t anymore age on this team…We need pitching and speed!
By JB
November 1, 2007 1:24 PM | Link to this
Griffey in center is bad news. Griffey-Diaz split in left. That way we can can get about 375 plate appearences for both. I do like Griffey, but he is no longer reliable in center even off a platoon with an unproven prospect.
By reebok
November 1, 2007 1:28 PM | Link to this
Oh for crying out loud. We already have enough chronically injured guys past their prime. Why would you even consider bringing another gimpy has-been onto this team? The Braves have 2 players - Tex and Francoeur. Start building around those guys NOW and you may make the playoffs again in 2010. Griffey would have been a great addition 10 years ago.
By CHOPPY
November 1, 2007 1:35 PM | Link to this
What’s more likely to be successful:
or
Once you sit and ponder these two choices you will realize why all these Mike Cameron or Ken Griffey Jr. stories are ridiculous. The Braves have missed the playoffs the last two years, not because of lack of offense or lack of defense, but because the back end of the rotation stinks (the bullpen also stank in 2006 as well). Attack, attack, attack on the SP issue from all angles (trade, free agency, farm system) and just let the farm system back fill CF.
By ck
November 1, 2007 1:40 PM | Link to this
I spell relief …. H U N T E R…that is the CF we need to concentrate on. resign Tex, get Hunter, Trade rent… ok that one is done.
By Tami
November 1, 2007 1:43 PM | Link to this
Intriguing idea there, Terence. It could work. I guess we’ll have to see what the Braves’ brass does. If the math is as you say, bringing Griff down here is not that bad an idea. And, it certainly would boost advance ticket sales and make season ticket packaging more attractive.
The only downside is these type players who’ve been previously injury-plagued (although Griff managed to stay relatively healthy for the 2007 season) always seem to be sidelined with a season-ending injury and/or injury plagued again when the sign with the Braves — on and off the disabled list. It has happened to the Braves time and time again….it’s getting really old, actually. Now, IF Griff could stay healthy (which is no guarantee with any player, of course), then the deal will be brilliant on paper.
Stay tuned….
By gtfan
November 1, 2007 1:51 PM | Link to this
Terrance and all who agree with him are complete idiots, Griffey?!? You have to be kidding me, obviously most of y’all don’t watch enough baseball.
He’s not a CF, he get hurts all the time, no speed anymore, average player at best.
I will say I like Griffey and he’s a class act, but not someone the Braves should be persuing.
By ChampDawg
November 1, 2007 1:52 PM | Link to this
Why do the Braves have this obsession with old, washed-up former superstars— i.e. Glavine, Griffey, etc. Or is it just the AJC trying to find something to write about and keep the pot stired. We don’t need Glavine or Griffey.
By Jim
November 1, 2007 1:59 PM | Link to this
The next thing Terence will suggest is to bring Dale Murphy out of retirement!
By Carroll
November 1, 2007 2:00 PM | Link to this
Mike: maybe we could also get Trix bunny to add some speed to the bench.
And Frankenberry would clearly be the best choice to take over for Cox when he hangs ‘em up.
By fildawg
November 1, 2007 2:02 PM | Link to this
Good idea if you like a center fielder who’s on the DL more than he’s on the field.
By Carroll
November 1, 2007 2:03 PM | Link to this
And Sugar Bear could really add some punch to the middle of our order.
By BigNCDawg
November 1, 2007 2:04 PM | Link to this
The Braves already have good bats so they need to spend any extra money availiable to acquire young good pitching. Is anyone coming from AAA or AA that promises to be the next Mattox? Did I spell his name right.
By Carroll
November 1, 2007 2:05 PM | Link to this
Jim: that would never happen because Murphy isn’t Moore’s “type”.
By Jeff in Roswell
November 1, 2007 2:07 PM | Link to this
No more MOORE!
Griffey is very close to being a has been. He just can’t go the distance in his twilight years. Frail… very frail.
Moore, you looked especially stupid on your clip recently with Bill Hartman. I will never understand what the AJC and Channel 2 see in you. I guess people like seeing a train wreck.
By MikeJones
November 1, 2007 2:07 PM | Link to this
Stupid idea. He wouldn’t play 80 games for us and he isn’t in CF anymore.
Terence you putting the finishing touches on your article of outrage over the Dodgers minority interview exemption? I can’t wait to not read that tomorrow..
By GTmiata
November 1, 2007 2:11 PM | Link to this
I think it’s a great idea. If we can get him cheap and for just a few years it would be perfect for what the Braves need. And if and when he does get hurt, it will be a great opportunity to get one or more of those youngsters in there and see how they do and prepare them for life post-Griffey. That would be a great way to try to get the most out of this team over the next couple of years in the twilight of the careers of Bobby Cox, John Smoltz, maybe Chipper Jones, and hopefully Tom Glavine.
By Enrique Guzman
November 1, 2007 2:12 PM | Link to this
I’m telling you, Coco Crisp is the way to go. He is a strong candidate to win a Gold-Glove this year and he stole close to 30 bases in a lineup that doesn’t really run that much because of Ortiz and Ramirez. His contract is for two more years at an average of $5 million per. Boston will be desperate to move him so it could be a steal. Remember the last player the Braves got from Boston that they were desperate to move was Renteria and he ended up being an All-Star with the Braves and in the Top 5 in batting average in the National League. I’m not saying Coco will be a .300 hitter, but at .285 with his Glove and Speed he could be an incredible acquisition at his price. He’s also a switch-hitter and that’s always a plus. After the 2 years in his contract are up, the Braves youngsters will be ready to step up without any pressure. This seems like a move Schuerholz would make. It’s just a matter of what type of prsopects we have to give up, but seeing as how Boston wants to get rid of him fast, it shouldn’t be a problem.
By Scott in Wisconsin
November 1, 2007 2:12 PM | Link to this
Well, I don’t really think spending money on Griffey is a great idea, even with the math that TM suggests. First of all, Griffey’s hamstrings are suspect and he spent the majority of this season in rightfield (granted, Francoeur could play center and Griffey could play right). No, I’d rather see the Braves spend the money on pitching. The prospects we have should perform well. After all, remember Andruw came up when he was just 19.
By MikeTenn
November 1, 2007 2:12 PM | Link to this
Terence my man, I feel your pain. I wrote a story once damning a local high school coach. Nothing else I wrote in that town mattered. I like Griffy as much as any baseball fan does and wouldn’t complain if he was on the squad, but I am scarred of his stints on the DL. And, for the record, I’m not a Bulldog or Florida fan by any means, but when I saw Georgia run on the field last week, I actually put down my laptop and fired up the DVR, and every college football fan I know is still talking about that moment. Isn’t that what it is all about?
By BullDawg Rick
November 1, 2007 2:13 PM | Link to this
12 mil for a PT CF???
Not a good business decision..
If this were the KG from 5 years ago, YES (but we had the best CF in the history of MLB)
By Arkansas Braves Fan
November 1, 2007 2:17 PM | Link to this
I would like to have the K.Griffey of the mid-90’s. Today’s Jr. is to much of a risk with all his injury history,especially with his price tag.The Braves need to focus on pitching. This is the last year of the worst contract in sports history(mike hampton). Translation: Should be able to resign Tex next season. Maybe Jordan S. will be ready by then.That means the braves are going to have to hope they get lucky and find a decent affordable center fielder for 2008 not named Mike Cameron.
By Kelley
November 1, 2007 2:27 PM | Link to this
Sounds great, I worry that we would get him and he would get hurt though.
The fact that he loves Bobby Cox just goes to prove what I’ve said all along: People actually IN MLB know that Bobby is the best; it just makes me laugh to read all the ugly posts by the yokels here in Atl who are so uneducated as to not appreciate how great Bobby is.
By BigMan
November 1, 2007 2:28 PM | Link to this
T Moore, the more you talked the more I’m convience, you have no clue about sports! You need to be talking about A-Rod, someone who is younger, hits better and can stay healthy! When need someone to help Larry in the lineup!
By Scooter
November 1, 2007 2:36 PM | Link to this
He would be a great team player and fit right into the club house. Schuerholz has structured deals with marquee players in the past in pretty clever ways, maybe Wren could do the same.
It would sell tickets but what are the chances he wouldn’t be on the DL by the time it was time break spring training? A gamble but worth thinking about.
By Steve
November 1, 2007 2:39 PM | Link to this
Terrence apparently has no clue about baseball.
Currently, Griffey is only a slightly above average player when not injured. Given the fact he has average roughly 100 games per season over the last five years proves he cannot stay healthy.
So basically, TM wants us to shell out $12 million a year for a part-time, slightly above average and falling rapidly Center Fielder. Man, I would rather pay Andrew 20 million, because you know he is at least going to play every day and give you better defense than Griffey (the injuries have crippled his ability to play defense).
Sorry, but this is an ABSOLUTELY horrible idea. I would rather spend that kind of money on a one or two year contract for Curt Schilling, who had 3.87 ERA, which is not only very good for playing in the AL, but when you consider a healthy portin of his starts were against the high money teams of the AL East then you have to realize just how good he still is. He would mean much more to this team than Griffey.
Either that or spend whatever it takes to get the best Center Fielder in the game, Torii Hunter. If you can get him to sign a long-term contract then you can trade some of our young OF’s for young flame-throwers so you can bring them along and avoid over-paying for a free agent starting pitcher.
I came from Ohio just after the Big Red Machine won it all in ‘75. As a kid and as an adult, I still love the Reds and I am a fan of Griffey and Griffey, Jr. … but to bring him here would be an absolute mistake unless you know he can give you 150 starts. Outside of that, he is not worth the money.
By Rev. Zoldars
November 1, 2007 2:46 PM | Link to this
I just have to put my 2 cents in on this one.
As we all know, it’s that time of year again when TM does his “TRADE FOR GRIFFEY” rant. Actually, this is more of a quarterly thing I believe….
Anyway, Griffey is old. Not the kind of magical old like Smoltz, but more of the tired, retread old - kinda like Terence Moore writing an article on Griffey.
To top that off, as many people have already mentioned, he is injury prone. He has not played a full season since around the turn of the century, and - this one is pretty big - he is NOT a CF anymore.
The pathetic reds (who always have our number, but thats a diff story), don’t want him in CF. If we are a superior team, why in the hell would we want him there?
Frank Wren has not expressed interest in this. DOB thinks that this cannot happen.
Besides, we don’t want to have to buy two outfielders this year.
And, another thing: It appeared we got rid of Renteria for prospects, BUT ALSO, to dump his 6 million salary.
Rent, was by many accounts, the Braves MVP last year. We traded him. I dont think it was with the intent on freeing up room to acquire a LVP in Griffey.
And by the by, if you ever quit your job T. Moore, I would love it. It must be great to stroke it at your computer all day and make up ludicrous sports stories involving black players from all sports.
The fact that you represent the AJC, and ATL on ESPN and such, from time to time, embarrasses the hell out of me.
He is not representative of ATL people. Just one opinion. like yours or mine. The difference is, TM is just always wrong.
OK, gotta go marry some folk. Enjoy your November everyone.
By Richard A. Burritt
November 1, 2007 2:48 PM | Link to this
Braves fan since 1955 Save ALL the money for pitching. The seven guys that are solid can make a fast,good defender in center field enough. (Willie Harris?)
By JJ
November 1, 2007 2:55 PM | Link to this
I would love to have Griffy in a braves uniform if he could stay healthy. That would be a gamble. From a marketing stand point it would be good. People would come to see Griffy but if he gets injured then we still have Diaz or Harris. I say the braves need to get Tori end of story.
By Chrono
November 1, 2007 3:05 PM | Link to this
How does Moore keep his job? Yeah, Griffey is a popular veteran, and he’s relatively affordable, but he’s washed up at this point. That doesn’t mean they shouldn’t sign him. His name alone is enough to put some butts in seats. But he’s no solution, even in the short term. Sign him? Sure. Excited like Moore? No.
By Regular Guy
November 1, 2007 3:23 PM | Link to this
Griffey? That old, broken-down old fart? he would play 2 games and be injured for the rest of the year! As long as we don’t care enough about the team to keep Andruw, we might as well go with Diaz in LF, Francoeur in center, and Harris in RF.
By STH
November 1, 2007 3:26 PM | Link to this
i have thought more on this, no please do not ever move Jeff to center, he is such a fast runner, he couldnt steel a base if the catcher were through from the parking lot. He can not cover center, plus with his arm, right field is right place. I would like to see Tori Hunter for a 2 year deal, but there goes that pitching we need. I think i will trust the Braves and not the media. The only right answer for me was to find a way to keep Andruw, we are not going to be able to keep Tex, wake up people, his agent is the w******* of the business, just like Andruw. It is tough, keep Andruw, no pitching , yet we will soon feel the loss of Andruw as 30-40 % more balls are not caught in center. Free agency sucks and all but turned me away from all professional sports, but complaining does nothing to help build our team. All that matters, is we still have Bobby….
By braves84
November 1, 2007 3:33 PM | Link to this
Carroll, you’re right Murph isn’t Terence’s type. And the reason he has his job still is the same reason the Dodgers can’t just hire the guy they want to coach. They have to interview another minority candidate. There has to be a minority in every case. By the way what or who is the minority now?
What is more degrading: Interviewing a coach when you absolutely know who you are hiring (and it isn’t the guy you are speaking to about the job) or not interviewing him at all? I am by far not a racist myself, but that rule(having to interview at least 1 minority candidate) is ludicrous and should upset any minorities more.
If a team gets rid of a coach JUST b/c another guy they covet becomes available, why in the world would they have to interview someone else. That person becomes a token and should be more upset. I know if I got a call to talk to LAD about their job, I wouldn’t attend. You’re not getting hired!
This is just as bad as the gas prices not going back down once we got caught back up after the storms 2 years ago and were low on oil. Now the 2 top money making companies are both gas.
I don’t care what color you are- if you don’t agree that rule is ridiculous and degrading I don’t know what could be.
By GE
November 1, 2007 3:42 PM | Link to this
How will the Braves pay for Tex/Boras and the other guys who might seek arbitration? Do you really believe that they will not try to maximize their salaries to the fullest also. Maybe they will agree to take a salary cut so that Tex can be signed. Yeah, Right!!!! I predict that you will not recognize too many faces after the 2008 season. Those that can will be gone before they get treated like Druw.This is a business as John S says. There is no loyalty here except to yourself. The Braves should do as the Marlins have done. Develop good players , win the series, and conduct a fire sale and start all over again. They have done it twice. Get real Brave fans. Money talks and BS walks.
By Rick Roberts
November 1, 2007 3:48 PM | Link to this
Ken Griffey, Jr. does make sense—a move that most people haven’t thought about. Plus, he’s a consumate Pro—great for the clubhouse and younger kids coming on. Bring in Griffey, Jr. and Tom Glavine—we’ll have a good balance of experience, professionalism and youth plus, fill needed holes and make budget!!
By braves84
November 1, 2007 3:58 PM | Link to this
Richard
I disagree about Willie Harris. He barely hit .240 the last half of the year. He is a terrible baserunner. So far in his career he hit .125, .233, .204, .262, .256, .156 and he hit .270 last year after staying over.330 the 1st half the year. The beginning of last year probably won’t happen again. I wish that weren’t the case b/c he does come cheap and he is fast to cover the field.
We have options though. The last few years at least 1 young player from our well developed farm system has stepped up and if we don’t get a veteran to bridge the gap for a year or 2, someone will step up. That is b/c these young guys want to play and play hard for Bobby.
By Ole Prof
November 1, 2007 4:03 PM | Link to this
You want to throw the Braves most reliable hitter (Matt Diaz) out the window??? He deserves left field full time…..
By braves84
November 1, 2007 4:10 PM | Link to this
Good 1 Ole Prof Diaz deserves a shot