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By SkinnyBully

September 27, 2007 8:18 AM | Link to this

Terence, the difference between your viewpoint and that of the Vick Apologists is that you are framing your opinion based of Facts, Evidence, and Logic. Your nay-sayers are basing their opinions off of Emotion. I saw the special on ESPN. I was thoroughly embarrassed by the pro-Vick crowd. They made Atlanta look pretty silly. You should be be proud that you stuck to your guns.

By Keith

September 27, 2007 8:19 AM | Link to this

well said

By Bob

September 27, 2007 8:22 AM | Link to this

Great article and right to the point….

By Me Being Me

September 27, 2007 8:25 AM | Link to this

Simply Put…GREAT ARTICLE.

..By the way…did I mention how GREAT the article was?

By S Barnett

September 27, 2007 8:25 AM | Link to this

I agree 100%Terence. This guy could commit murder and people would still make excuses for him…

By Ed

September 27, 2007 8:25 AM | Link to this

Mr. Moore, You may be correct. These people simply want to see him play. However, in my opinion this is simply a reflection of our society as a whole. There is a mindset that our “heroes” can do nothing wrong. Whether that “hero” participates in sports, is in politics or is from Hollywood we simply ignore their transgressions. We refuse to see the truth, simply because we do not want to see the truth, not because the truth is not in front of us.

We as a society must open our eyes to what is happening and stop ignoring problems demonstrated by those we adore.

By tp

September 27, 2007 8:27 AM | Link to this

This is the best piece ever written about this whole saga, from Ron Mexico to positive pot test. Nice work Terence.

By Munsons Call

September 27, 2007 8:27 AM | Link to this

Great article, Terence. And this is coming from a reader who usually disagrees with your view point. Thank you for pointing out the truth of this situation. I was totally embarrassed for my city after the debacle on ESPN the other night. If more people who attended were thinking straight like you we would have been seen in a much better light.

By D.Ellis

September 27, 2007 8:29 AM | Link to this

Vick is yesterday’s news. He will never play in Atlanta again…nd until those stupid people that were barking and yelling in that town hall meeting realize that he will never play in Atlanta again, they will keep their false hopes up.

It’s time for this city and the fans to move on…It really is. Yes there is no doubt in any one’s minds that other than the Dirty Bird run…Mike Vick put Atlanta Falcons football back on the map. But his career in Atlanta is over. He WILL NEVER PLAY IN ATLANATA AGAIN….DOES ANYONE REALLY THINK HE WILL PLAY FOR ATLANTA AGAIN????? IF YOU DO YOU ARE AS STUPID AS MIKE VICK FOR NOT PUTTING DOWN THE BONG FOR HIS MANDATED FEDERAL PRETRIAL DRUG TEST.

Mike Vick is no more in the city in Atlanta…he will never play here again. Get over it and instead of cheering for the biggest bust in NFL History next to Ryan Leaf….start cheering and pulling for the guys who ARE in uniform.

By Rick

September 27, 2007 8:29 AM | Link to this

It is a relief to know that there exists brave writers like you who don’t bend to the people who want to paint this whole sorry debacle in a false light. It really is sad that Vick is such a troubled soul. It really is disgusting that he squandered a lucrative career; $130 million dollars down the drain. How many poor families would that money have fed, clothed and housed?

I applaud the Atlanta Falcons for their tough stance. And I wish the NFL could give them relief somehow by donating a star quarterback or a top draft choice. If the Falcons are a lesser team this year, Vick’s apologists have only Vick to blame.

By matt

September 27, 2007 8:30 AM | Link to this

what do you expect from ghetto blacks ???

By Rod

September 27, 2007 8:30 AM | Link to this

I agree 100% with Terence on this. After yesterdays news I don’t see how anyone can still support MV. Anyone who has paid attention the last few years already knew that he was using the “Mary Jane”. There are way more important issues out there for people to be worked up about than a grown man who choose to throw away his lucrative career. As for me I have long since moved on from this issue and I think that it is time that the city did as well.

By ZO

September 27, 2007 8:32 AM | Link to this

Hi Fellow Falcons. I never agree with Terrance but he is 1000% right. I was a STAUNCH Vick supporter I mean STAUNCH but this last move just blew my wheels off! Why Mike? I hope you get the help you need. And yes I will miss him coming out of the huddle!

By GODAWGS

September 27, 2007 8:32 AM | Link to this

Terence finally writes an article I 100% agree with. That town meeting was an embarassment to the city of Atlanta. And I am still hearing “It’s just weed”. HAHAHA, well, “just weed” just added another year jail time and another year suspension from NFL. Like I said before, I hope that joint was worth it.

By Telly

September 27, 2007 8:32 AM | Link to this

Terrence how do you know that the only motive Mike Vick’s supporters have is selfish because they want to see him play. Now, not only are you stepin’ fetchit, but you are a mind reader too. As I said keep it up and maybe just maybe after a few speaking classes you will get that job at ESPN.

By Marie

September 27, 2007 8:32 AM | Link to this

Terrance:

No one is an apologist for Michael Vick. As an African-American I clearly understand that Michael Vick has broken the law and must now pay the consequences for his actions. However, it is the unprecendented actions that were taken by the NFL and/or other corporations that has hurt and offended members of the AA community.

When Michael Jackson was indicted and eventually went on trial for child molestation — you could still purchase an album by MJ. When Ray Lewis was indicted and enventually went to trial for murdering TWO human beings — you could still purchase a Ray Lewis jersey. When Kobe Bryant was indicted for raping a young lady — again consumers were not denied the opportunity to purchase a KB jersey. Most reasonable people will consider the crimes for which Michael Jackson, Ray Lewis, and Kobe Bryant much more serious than what Michael Vick is convicted of doing (NOTICE: No race card playing here — I used all examples from the AA community). Even the justice system considers these more aggregious crimes because the punishment for these are much stiffer than dogfigthing and/or animal cruelty.

However, immediately after Michael Vick was indicted, the NFL Commissioner made the unprecedented move to deny ANYONE the privilege of donning Mr. Vick’s jersey unless oc course you already had one and all major retailers have followed in the footstep of the NFL. BUT you can still to NFL.com and purchase a customized, authentic NFL jersey bearing the name Ray Carruth (Carolina Panthers #86) and O.J. Simpson (Buffalo Bills #32).

As far as the latest episode is concerned regarding Michael Vick’s marijuana usage, I noticed that Judge Henry Hudson also ordered him to undergo mental health counseling. Is is just possible Mr. Moore just possible that with all this Michael Vick has been going through that he is dealing with severe depression and suicidal thoughts? And although it was WRONG and VERY STUPID — he used marijuana (which I’m sure he has used in the past) to cope with his pain and/or depression. EVERYBODY HAS A BREAKING POINT

By Darrick

September 27, 2007 8:32 AM | Link to this

It is refreshing to see SOMEONE speak on what this really is, a thug doing thug-like things, and a criminal doing criminal-like things. I would be happy if I never saw another snap by Vick…bring on Shockley!

By Wes

September 27, 2007 8:34 AM | Link to this

Terence,

THANK YOU for being the voice of reason during this. You, sir, are the William Cosby of the Micheal Vick “conspiracy.” Please keep up the good work.

By Darrin "The Vent King"

September 27, 2007 8:35 AM | Link to this

You need to let this go T Moore. No one is interested in your opinion on this subject anymore. Can’t you all let this story die? It’s like picking at a festering wound for pete’s sake. Every other day, Vick this, Vick that, I hate the apologist this, don’t care if I’m a hater that, LET IT GO.

By FalconFan

September 27, 2007 8:35 AM | Link to this

Terence:

Nobody is saying that what Michael Vick did is not wrong, and he deserves to pay for what he did. But the Media and people like you tried and convicted the man before he even went to court. And you have always had negative comments about not only Michael Vick but lots of Black people in sports. So that leads me to ask this question, DO YOU REALIZE YOU ARE A BLACK MAN, and just because you are where you are now does not mean that you are any better than any other black man, we all make mistakes. And you are doing exactly what they want you to do, and that is speak negatively about blacks. You are Pathetic, and I feel sorry for you because you don’t have a clue.

By GeeMo

September 27, 2007 8:36 AM | Link to this

Go Houston! I’m going to LMAO Sunday watching dumb-as-a-box-of-rocks Arthur Blank and Atlanta learning the hard way of why they were so-o-o-o stupid to trade Matt Shaub and that POS Vick.

By samiam

September 27, 2007 8:37 AM | Link to this

I’m a huge MV fan, but why are we talking about him? He’s old news. it’s time to move on. The brother doesn’t seem to get it.

As for heroes, you should be your kids heroe, not some athelete that your kid has never met. That’s our first problem.

By Brad

September 27, 2007 8:38 AM | Link to this

You hit the nail on the head. I was embarrassed that the rest of the country saw Atlantans act the way they did on ESPN. I wasn’t surprised though. I live in Atlanta and I’ve heard this nonsense comparing Vick to MLK and others. The fact that someone can compare an overpaid athlete/thug to the civil rights leaders shows a true lack of understanding of what blacks faced on a daily basis prior to the civil rights movement.

By bigdiggy

September 27, 2007 8:39 AM | Link to this

Thank you for saying what needs to be said. I watched part of the town hall meeting, and it was beyond embarrassing for the city of Atlanta to have large numbers of people screaming and hollering and clapping wildly when asked the question, “Do you think dogfighting should NOT be illegal?” Wow. Do those of you who did that have any concept of how ignorant and uncivilized that made you look? Can you possibly be that far out of the mainstream?

I’m glad your sickening little display was nationally televised, so people who advocate treating animals humanely can see the depths of sheer stupidity they’re up against.

By Jackie

September 27, 2007 8:40 AM | Link to this

Terrance, again….I say never ever place yourself in any kind of situation that will have you walking in Vick’s shoes…..trust me, you will see it’s a lonely place. I know you have to appeal to your employer and Vick has made some serious mistakes but no one….deserves the condemnation this man has received. In my opinion, he has given up. So, if we hear that he has done more damage to himself, I guess you can blame the apologists for standing by him.

By wildbillhiltner

September 27, 2007 8:41 AM | Link to this

This all because of some dogs nobody like anyway. Ted Kennedy drownt a girl and he get to be a senator - Robert Bird from Virginia he in the clan when it hangt people and he get to be a senator- Larry Craig boy on boy in the mansroom and he get to a senator - Vick he kilt a dog or two nobody like anyway so I think he should be on work release or witness protection so that he can play for the falconz

By High Pockets

September 27, 2007 8:41 AM | Link to this

Well-said, Terrence, you are absolutely right. As a Native Atlantan, I’m embarrassed by the way Vick apologists behaved on TV the other night.

By David

September 27, 2007 8:44 AM | Link to this

Again thanks Terence for being the EDUCATED voice in the so called ATL. After Tuesday I actually sat my wife down and apologized to her for having to move here.

By snellvillejacket

September 27, 2007 8:44 AM | Link to this

The Good Lord advises all of use to turn the other cheek. By all accounts with Mr. Vick the City of Atlanta has already turned all four and he is now one half through on his second time around.

When will the public understand he abused our faith and trust. Remember Alex Karris and Paul Horning both got suspended for gambling.

Finally how dumb can you be knowing you are going to have a drug test when you go into jail or at anytime while on probation and you smoke weed. This only shows how stupid he really is and how little he cares about all of you dumb enough to want him back.

Let him go out and find a job with convict on his resume or job application. He may be able to flip burgers with the best of them. No body did this to him he did it to himself.

By Tinkydog

September 27, 2007 8:48 AM | Link to this

Terene, For once, maybe, I totally agree with you. In fact, I can’t think of one single thing Mike Vick has done for Atlanta outside football. Has he ever given money to a worthy Atlanta charity? Has he ever given his time and effort to anything of value other than himself and his BadNewz buddies? I hope you never have to write about him again. Thanks for not defending him just because he is black.

By skip coppola

September 27, 2007 8:49 AM | Link to this

Great article, unfortunately those idiots who completely embarrassed the city (I listened to the national media rip Atlanta all day yesterday)probably can’t read, and certainly wouldn’t be interested in reading an intelligent newspaper column, so your message is falling only on the ears of those who agree.

By Bill

September 27, 2007 8:50 AM | Link to this

I know everything thinks that they are missing out on their best chance at a Super Bowl with Vick gone. But seriously people. Look at this sorry excuse for a “man” and his judgement. Based on his character and decision making, he isn’t qualified to lead a lemonade stand let alone an NFL team. He might have been exciting to watch, but he was NEVER going to lead Atlanta to a Super Bowl. He doesn’t have the character to do it, and character is as important or more important than talent when it comes to NFL talent. If they would have won it all, it would have been in spite of him, not because of him. The Falcons will be better off going forward and finding someone with good skills and great character. Michael Vick will never be it.

By Dave

September 27, 2007 8:54 AM | Link to this

I think this is just part of the no snitch rapper world breaking the law is no big deal. In this world the coin of the realm is celebrity and money. If you have it you get to do what you want and when you get caught getting religion bails you out. God will forgive everything including OJ cutting off his wifes head. I bet some in the audience could rationalize that as well.

By Big Al

September 27, 2007 8:54 AM | Link to this

This is a bit scary to say, but I agree with Terence Moore. Great article!

By DeeZee

September 27, 2007 8:55 AM | Link to this

You are such a hypocrite and a sell-out! I pray to God that no one in your family ever has to go through what this mother has had to endure! You can rest assured that because you have not shown an ounce of compassion for this man and his family, GOD is not going to show you any in your time of trouble. You are going to have trouble in your life and you are going to wish that someone will forgive you. Even worse, your troubles will be exposed for the whole world to see. You have some skeletons in your closet and they will be exposed to the media. None of us are living a perfect life. Our very existence is dependent on the mercy and grace of God. You are going to have to face a judge one day in the form of the almighty God and may he have MERCY on your unforgiving soul! Mike has made some terrible mistakes, but they are not unforgivable ones! He is going through a tough time right now and YES I feel compassion for him! Do you think he is not sorry for being in this predicament? If you or anyone else thinks not, then you need mental counseling as well. Frankly, I am praying for him because he needs it- not more ridicule. You win a person with love and compassion, not sticks and stones! Mark my word, some of the same people that have absolutely no mercy is going to meet the same fate- one way or another! God is watching all of this non-sense and He will be the FINAL JUDGE! Not me and certainly NOT YOU! I am not a Vick apologist. I just know that enough is enough! You think that degrading others is good journalism and continuously bringing up their past is interesting reading? Get a life Terence! It goes to show that you have little and NO creativity and ABSOLUTELY nothing else to write about. Why don’t you surprise the rest of us and let this be the LAST article we have to be subjected to on MIKE VICK! The old saying goes- If you don’t have anything good to say about a person don’t say anything at all. This man needs time to heal and people need time to forgive. They can’t go through the process as long as self righteous people like you continue to past judgment. I hope that you can sleep well at night knowing that you are helping to destroy another person’s life through the tongue! This is nothing short of mental abuse, Terence. Yes you have an obligation to report the news, but to continue to ridicule this man and those of us that SHOW COMPASSION is nothing short of mental abuse. I pray for people like you because you need just as much help as Michael Vick. Hell is enlarging itself everyday for people like you! Sin is sin- no big sin, no little sin. Hell is going to be full of people that lie, steal, cheat, mistreat, cheat on their taxes, committ adultery, fornicate, etc. He that is without sin, cast the first stone. Can we at least get a 1/2 teaspoon or pinch of compassion for this man? Just remember God is the final judge on every situation! If He says Mike Vick will play again in this league, none of you that judge him, can stop it! He can shut the mouths of all the naysayers and those that THINK they hold this man’s destiny in the palm of their hand. What matters in the end is whether Mike has gotten things right with God. If he never puts on another uniform again, does not matter! Thst will not make him any less of a person. Hope you feel the same way when your career is over. Please let this die, move on with life and ask God to have mercy on us all.

By Big Al

September 27, 2007 8:55 AM | Link to this

This is a bit scary to say, but I agree with Terence Moore. Great article!

By mhouston

September 27, 2007 8:55 AM | Link to this

I don’t think any of us have been placed here on earth to be judge, jury and executioner. Therefore, it is wrong to judge people for their opinions. Respect others for their views as you would want your views respected. Afterall, that is all they are “personal opinions.”

By skip coppola

September 27, 2007 8:56 AM | Link to this

HOW LONG BEFORE ESPN PICKS UP WILD BILL’S BUTCHERED ENGLISH AND MISGUIDED THOUGHT PROCESS BELOW AND USES IT TO FURTHER HUMILIATE ATLANTA?

By wildbillhiltner

September 27, 2007 8:41 AM | Link to this

This all because of some dogs nobody like anyway. Ted Kennedy drownt a girl and he get to be a senator - Robert Bird from Virginia he in the clan when it hangt people and he get to be a senator- Larry Craig boy on boy in the mansroom and he get to a senator - Vick he kilt a dog or two nobody like anyway so I think he should be on work release or witness protection so that he can play for the falconz

By charlieinforysth

September 27, 2007 8:56 AM | Link to this

Mr. Moore, I saw the entire ESPN special and the city of ATL and all “real” Falcons Fans were embarassed by the audience. Your column is right on and you folks who think Mr. Moore is wrong-WAKE UP! Mike Vick did some very stupid things, continues to do stuip things and he is going to pay for it. And oh by the way, their are legal medications for depression.

By battleaxe1

September 27, 2007 8:56 AM | Link to this

Terrence is a disgrace to the AA Community, i dont see any white american showing off their dirty laundry

By Paul

September 27, 2007 8:56 AM | Link to this

Mr. Moore,

You are not only correct regarding the MV situation, you also brought up a very important issue facing our society. We as society use principles, ethics and morality when it is convenient and bend them when not convenient.

In truth, ones character is defined by how one deals with principles, ethics and morality when it is difficult to do so.

I always enjoy reading your straight forward articles and insights.

A wise man once said “one can argue and prove anything with absurd logic” and those who know who said it wouldn’t be supporting MV blindly.

No chance MV will play for Atlanta or any one else in NFL for that matter, which NFL Manager and Coach has “bricks” for brains, not many!

By mike

September 27, 2007 8:57 AM | Link to this

TM, Great Article!!! I watched the Town Hall Meeting and also was embarrassed for the City of Atlanta. To hear and see the actions/reactions of those in the audience was terrible. I could not believe how uncivilized many of them were. There was one person that was only concerned about making an @$$ out of herself when ever the camera panned in her vicinity. She was very obnoxious. The straw that broke the camels back though was the final question of the night. Bob Ley asked by a show of applause, do you think that dog fighting should not/should be a federal crime? or something very close to that. The majority in the audience felt that dog fighting shouldn’t be a federal crime. The people of ATL should be ashamed and embarrassed. Do you really think that MLK would have accepted what MV7 has done and stood by his side? Or would he have stood by his side for the sole purpose of ensuring he was treated and tried fairly? I think the later here. MV7 has been treated fairly thus far by all officials in this case. So now is MLK still by his side? Highly doubt it. And you ATL representatives that attended the TH meeting need to relook your motives for supporting MV7.

Again, TM great article. 100% correct. Guess the race card can’t come out on this one, but I am sure someone will try.

By Solid Foundation

September 27, 2007 8:58 AM | Link to this

The main difference I saw that presented itself so clearly the might of espn circus act was a wide gap of education. The minds up there that were logically evaluating the situation and making Mike accountable for their actions where all educated indiviuals. The minds that were riduclously chanting and making comments out loud,an extremely brillant form of discussion I might add, in support of Mike were of an uneducated class. It is almost comical to see these two very different segments of society trying to convince each other of their viewpoints. The gap is just to wide.

By Bob

September 27, 2007 9:01 AM | Link to this

Fantastic article.

DJ SHOCKLEY - please get healthy.

By KrisG

September 27, 2007 9:03 AM | Link to this

I’m not apologizing for Vick, because he brings it all on himself. Race has nothing to do with his conviction or his drug use. I do, however, have some sympathy for the guy, because of how quickly things heated up, and everything since April has turned into a series of worst-case scenarios like the world has never seen. And now, filing separate state charges? Apparently, a legal nightmare that just never happens to anyone… But now it’s happening to Vick. So now he’s smoking weed… real stupid, real real stupid, but I wonder if he’s given up? At this point, he’ll never see the light of day again anyway. He’ll be in his seventies when he gets out at this point, what kind of frame of mind is he in right now? By the way, I DO think the lack of sympathy feels like racism… the way somehow, every black man who gets into trouble is a continuation of the other… Mike and OJ and Ray Lewis and Kobe… As opposed to the Robert Blakes and Phil Spectors, which are, rightfully so, treated as individual cases with no connection to each other.

By Marie

September 27, 2007 9:03 AM | Link to this

Sorry Sir but moderator Bob Ley botched the original question that came from a viewer from the Internet. The viewer asked the question exactly as you stated it above. However, when Bob Ley posed the question to the audience he adlibed it by saying something to the effect of “Do you think dogfighting should be a felony or a have a sever punishment or even be illegal? So when the audience responded you got a mixed bag. Some people may believe yeah it should be a crime, but, not a felony and/or carry as much prison time. Others may genuinely feel that it should not be a crime. But whatever you think this is America and people are entitled to their opinion whether you agree with them or not.

As far as the whole town hall meeting is concerned; yes the audience was at times too rowdy. However, ESPN is to blame for that. This was billed by them as a town hall meeting and when you say town hall the expectation by most people is that there will be a good deal of audience participation. However, only about 3 or 4 folks got to actually make comments and the panel did most of the talking. Also, like they do in a Democrat/Republican presidential debate questions were pre-screened and hard-hitting and/or controversial questions were weeded out.

By Jamie

September 27, 2007 9:04 AM | Link to this

You can take the boy out of the “hood, but you can never take the “hood out of the boy.

By Will

September 27, 2007 9:06 AM | Link to this

Terrence, I am a so-called “Vick apologist” and I disagree with your characterization of people who hold a more redemptive view of Vick in the most vehement way. The fact of the matter is, we live in the real world. And in the real world, we understand that the majorirty of high school, college, and pro athletes out there aren’t even close to being “saints”.

But let’s stick with the pros: Patrick Kerney was asleep in his home, while a woman was brutally raped. Raped! Only a dead man sleeps that hard! And what was his punishment for allowing such debauchery to take place in his home? He got a HUGE raise and a transfer out West to a Super Bowl contending team. Wow.

And how about the New York Giants linebacker that KILLED SOMEONE driving drunk, got off, then got arrested two more times for DUI. Is he under the jail? Last time I checked, he was playing games as late as last week. So Terrence—where’s the righteous indignation? The ourage?

And need I mention Ray Lewis’ indictment for MURDER and Jamal Lewis’ dope-phone! Here’s a news flash, T.: Ray’s still headed for Canton and Jamal is churning out 200-yard rushing games in Cleveland. Kind of makes you go “Hmmm….”

So the next time you decide to focus your keystrokes on Vick, don’t give us this crap about MV7 being just this horrible person. Yes, he’s made his share of mistakes, even testing positive for marijuana while on bond, but who hasn’t? He’s still a kid and, like all the other thugs amongst the professional ranks, deserves another shot at redemption—on the field at the GA Dome. (I tell you, people in glass houses just love to throw stones!)

By Jack Smythe

September 27, 2007 9:07 AM | Link to this

All you have to do is look at other people convicted of dog fighting recently and you will soon realize that Vick has it easy. This is most likely because of his fame, money, and undoubtedly his skin color. If anyone honestly believes that race is a factor in this my answer is “Ask the dogs” that he and his Bad Newz Kennels” tortured and killed.

By msteven

September 27, 2007 9:08 AM | Link to this

To Marie:

Thank you. Thank you. did I say Thank You? YOU. and ONLY YOUR post alone addresses that complete meltdown of this young man. I absolutely LOVE all the examples you gave of the other AA folks who werent treated near as harsh with far worst crimes. If Vick toted on a joint. What the HELL do yall expect? The man’s is under huge stress! Anyone of you holier than thou folks if you were under a tremendous amount of pressure and stress and watched your whole world crumble in a matter of weeks around you would turn to drugs, booze, and god knows what else! You Terrence Moore are an idoit to the 10th degree. Would love to see whats hidden under your bed and closets and backyard and attic! and NO I am not a fan of Vick. Dont own any of his mememobila nor any other sports star. I dont place any of them on high shelf. They are just mere mortals, humans like myself. Therefore I dont get bent out of shape when they make a mistake. I move on. and like another post said. I cheer those that are IN uniform that are trying to represent. Keep their noses clean, and do the right thing although they never get near the glory or attention. I like the background players. The ones that No one notices. All you ever hear about are the QBs CBs and coaches. This is what happens when you worship HUMANS. They End up acting like, what else? Just Humans. Humans are imperfect(just like animals) Humans do dumb things regardless of our supposed higher intelligence. The fact still remains we are still humans. and we are All Imperfect. Yes that means you Vick haters as well as Vick supporters. Get over yourselves and Move on.

By Tony

September 27, 2007 9:09 AM | Link to this

Great article.

Terrance isn’t airing the AA community’s dirty laundry. Mike Vick took care of that for him.

By Let's laugh at Terence

September 27, 2007 9:10 AM | Link to this

TRYING TO DISTANCE YOURSELF FROM THAT DEBACLE HUH TERENCE! OH HOW I BET YOU WISH YOU HAD NEVER AGREED TO THAT

By DunwoodyDawg

September 27, 2007 9:12 AM | Link to this

Terence,

I rarely agree with you, but on this point I couldn’t agree more. Frankly those folks sound like the Paris Hilton and Michael Jackson sycophants.

By Arsenio Hall

September 27, 2007 9:13 AM | Link to this

CAN SOMEONE GET ME THE GUEST LIST FOR THE TOWN HALL MEETING? I THINK I CAN MAKE A COMEBACK ON TV!!! WOOF WOOF WOOOF!!!

By Bravo

September 27, 2007 9:13 AM | Link to this

DeeZee wrote: “You win a person with love and compassion, not sticks and stones!”

All Blank did was give him “love and compassion” (which he was greatly criticized for) and this is the thanks he and the city of Atlanta gets? Vick once unified the city and now divides the city and you direct your anger to Terrence for Vicks actions? Mr. Moore is simply doing his job and “reacting” to Vicks own “actions”. Save your preaching for Sunday

By VickBeliever

September 27, 2007 9:14 AM | Link to this

Terranace Moore I hope you feel good about this article talking about your people this way. I just want you to remember one thing at the end of the day you are still a BLACK MAN as well. There will be a time that is going to come where you will need the community behind you and you will see what it feels like to be depressed, lonely and in the need to have someone to turn to. The white people on this blog telling you how great this article is are only using your dumb a* to be thier voice. Like always white people sit back and watch us destroy and turn on our own. They never do that.

By DHinton

September 27, 2007 9:16 AM | Link to this

If you lost over $130 Million Dollars, lost your career, lost the admiration of millions of people all over the world, and been vilified in the media, because of your own STUPID choice to be involved in a game of chance that destroyed dogs; HOW WOULD YOU REACT? What would you do to get some relief? Hit the bottle? Smoke MJ? other Drugs? Suicide? From a humanity stand point to ALL MV critics, What has Michael Vick done personally against either you or any other human? Why do you hate MV so much? His biggest human crime has been against himself. Crimes against dogs? People please… I’ve got 4 dogs, had 10 and none/all of them are not worth the life or misery of one human.

By Chris

September 27, 2007 9:16 AM | Link to this

The saddest thing about this entire episode is

a) the amount of Vick “supporters” that still remain as evidenced by the espn show and

b) the fact that those “supporters” have children.

God help these children - their parents care so little about them they can’t even point out right from wrong.

By Earl

September 27, 2007 9:17 AM | Link to this

Terence;

Great article, saw pieces of the ESPN piece and felt bad for you and other panelists with the crowd you had to deal with. It’s my opinion that these ‘Vick’ supporters that say this is no big deal would also be the among the first to demand action were the perpetrator not of the so called ‘AA’ community.

By Roberta

September 27, 2007 9:17 AM | Link to this

Thanks for this article, Mr. Moore. Your explanation helps those of us who live outside Atlanta understand why some people in that city continue to support Vick. You certainly were right when you stated that some of the people who attended the town hall meeting embarrassed the city on national television.

By msteven

September 27, 2007 9:18 AM | Link to this

Word to the wise and Terrance Moore.

Dont be so happy to Gloat over another man’s downfall. Just remember. We All fall short. Karma is a mother you know what. While its clear that you and many others are enjoying this mans downfall. Just remember you got a life too. You got family members(children, etc) too. You better pray that they walk a holier than thou chalk line because something is waiting around the corner for each and everyone of us. So judge all you like. You surely will be judged one day with the same measure. Mark my words.

By mike

September 27, 2007 9:21 AM | Link to this

I continue to hear the comments that “MV7 made a mistake” or “everyone makes mistakes”. MV7 didn’t make a mistake, he made a knowledgable decision to get involved in dog fighting. He made the decision to get involved with smoking pot. This whoa-is-me argument is getting real old. Put all emotions aside and look at what he did.

Isn’t it ridiculous when a member of the same community speaks out against one of their own everyone else in that community considers them a “sell-out” or “they forgot where they came from” or “uncle tom”, or something of that nature. Whaat a cop out for not being willing to step out of the tunnel and seeing the entire view. I think some people stand closer to the entrance looking through the tunnel rather than the exit looking out.

By Earl

September 27, 2007 9:23 AM | Link to this

To Marie;

It’s good to know where your values are (ie., it’s not important whether you’ve raped, murdered someone etc and so on, participated in dogfighting, drug abuse) so long as you can buy his sports memorabilia. And of course, the corporations in America should be forced to be saddled with these idiots b/c people like you are willing to overlook these transgressions so you can buy their jersey.

By JKS

September 27, 2007 9:24 AM | Link to this

Fantastic column.

As the “Free Vick” contingent has become more and more ridiculous (and vocal) the further I have found myself being pushed from being a Falcons fan. It is true that the guys on the team have nothing to do with the situation (well… maybe some of them do), but the players change and move on, leaving the one constant behind: the fans. The ethos of the most vocal fan base has not changed in years, and while categorizing all of the fans by the actions of a relatively small but loud group may not be rational, its what I’ve come to. (My apologies to those who are loyal AND find these developments revolting.)

Not that it matters (and since when do blogs and comments here reallllly matter), but I’ve had it with being embarrassed to support my home team… especially when it doesn’t involve performance on the field.

By BILL

September 27, 2007 9:24 AM | Link to this

Why dont these Vick apologists open their eyes and put blame for Vick not being there anymore where it belongs,on Vick himself,Vick took himself away with his unconcern for his team,city and loyal fans,breaking the law proved that, if he cared one iota for those apologists he would have kept his nose clean from the time he was drafted.OJs apologists set him free the first time for murder,Vicks apologist would do the same thing in a heartbeat,just where is the justice you ask,its coming soon when the judge hands down the sentences for both of these dummies.

By steve

September 27, 2007 9:25 AM | Link to this

you’re right in implying the “attendees” were out of line and a disgrace to Atlanta. But for the wrong reason. The so called vick “supporters and apologists” don’t give a damn about vick’s football playing abilities. They just don’t want to admit that the justice system is color blind in this case. They still think it’s all about race which we all know is total unadulterated B.S.

By Sports Fan

September 27, 2007 9:25 AM | Link to this

Why are you still talking about Vick: Alert he’s not Jesus, let it die Terrence

By Marc

September 27, 2007 9:27 AM | Link to this

Terence Moore I do not know you personally but based on the articles you right…..YOU ARE A HUGE JERK!!

By DHinton

September 27, 2007 9:27 AM | Link to this

What do Terence Moore, Clarence Thomas, and Condolessa Rice have in common? Why was T. Moore picked to be on the ESPN panel? Pi$$off the wrong people T. Moore and they will come after you. They make you and they can break you. Wise up my brother.

By GE

September 27, 2007 9:31 AM | Link to this

Why is it that black people with opinions embarass other people with opinions. Our government embarasses me on a daily basis, but I do not waste my time complaining about it. Football is just a game and it should not be a topic that sets the the morals and values of the people who view it. If Vick is a thug in in private life, then so be it. I just enjoyed watching him play the game. His off the field activities are no concern of mine and they do not have any influence on my values.

By willdave

September 27, 2007 9:31 AM | Link to this

Mr. Moore, I agree with you 100%. Thank you for sticking to your guns and not giving in to these apologists. They are an embarrassment to the city of Atlanta. As you say, their only concern is to see Vick play again. Period. They couldn’t care less about doing what’s right, setting a good example for our youth, or seeing that justice prevails. Their rude, obnoxious behavior at the nationally televised town hall meeting shows how low class they are. Their opinion means absolutely nothing to me. I’m glad the NFL suspended Vick. I’m glad the Falcons plan to cut ties with this criminal. I’d rather see Harrington or Leftwich at QB even if neither is as talented as Vick. However, keep in mind that Joey just put up numbers against Carolina that were statistically better than any of those ever posted by Vick for one game. So I’m not so sure that we have traded down in that department.

By Beantown

September 27, 2007 9:32 AM | Link to this

I was in a similar situation as Vick as far as facing time. SoI feel what hes going through with drug test failure. You just do even worse, you have I don’t care anymore mentality. ITs until you go do your time, for me 1yr, and realize you have to change things. When you sitting in a cell thinking 365days and everything is moving accept for you and you ask the Lord for guidance. That when your 2nd life start and you start to relaize your purpose in life. Mine was to be sucessful which I am, and help all the knuckle-heads on my way to the top. Because I was a MV7.

By BUSHWACKER

September 27, 2007 9:33 AM | Link to this

I think that’s partly true they just want to see him entertain. But alot of it is some blacks don’t think they shoul have to obey the laws because they are owed something which is a load of crap!

Last I checked, no black man walking the earth today has ever been a slave.

It’s time to move on and get over it.

But another part of the problem is society has spent the 15 years or so not telling people, you cannot break the law.

Ever since Bill Clinton told the world a lie, its been down hill since. There is no more right and wrong.

I said it then and I say it now, it may be decades before we know the damage done by that lie that the most poerful man in the world told!

By Earl

September 27, 2007 9:34 AM | Link to this

To: msteven

I don’t think people are gloating over Vicks downfall. Personally I feel bad for him. But I don’t have to ‘pray’ that I or my family members walk a ‘holier’ line. I’m confident that all of us are smart enough not to associate w/ thugs, drug dealers, dogfighters etc. In the end the argument is ‘Mike made a mistake, we should forgive him’. Let’s face facts… at the very least he’s had a history of making poor decisions as Mr. Moore documented. What should we forgive him for next? Do we draw the line when he kills someone or will that be just another mistake?

By steve

September 27, 2007 9:35 AM | Link to this

To DHinton: Wow, I’m really afraid for T. Moore now. You ignorant racist a*******hole.

By Disgusted

September 27, 2007 9:35 AM | Link to this

TM,

Great Article…I along with many others were embarrassed by the actions of the crowd and was sorry to have witnessed that. My son, whom I’ve exposed to our sometimes pitiful history in this country, asked me the following…”How can someone from that race support the killing and fighting of dogs when not too long ago, they themselves were hung, killed, shot, executed, and treated like dogs for only the color of their skin…” Makes you wonder….

By ken

September 27, 2007 9:37 AM | Link to this

Anyone who tortures and kills dogs is a psychopath! Period.

Anyone who defends the actions of a psychopath is mentally retarded.

There is big potential for a huge mental hospital to treat the rabid sports fans of Atlanta.

By Stan

September 27, 2007 9:38 AM | Link to this

What you “fairness” crybabys forget is that there is a new Sheriff in town, because the old sheriff let all of that other crap happen and did nothing about it. Roger Goodell is going to clean up the mess and not tolerate any more bad behaviour. Look what bad behaviour has done to the NBA. Their ratings are headed south. And it’s about time we quit putting up with these immature, poorly raised, classless prima donnas. Thank you Mr. Goodell.

By Chris

September 27, 2007 9:38 AM | Link to this

Terence - for years you have been vilified for “playing the race card” and been accused of too aggressively trying to promote an african american agenda. Now once, just once, in the most obvious of cases, you call it as most people agree it is.

This is what you get in return, veiled threats for deserting “the community”. This should tell you alot about the intelligence level of the folks calling you out.

By mike

September 27, 2007 9:41 AM | Link to this

Here’s what’s amazing that many have overlooked. yes MV7 broke the law, we know that. But this person has no INTEGRITY. He lied to his boss, he lied to the commissioner, he lied to the public, especially those in ATL, he lied to his teammates. Everyone that supports MV7, supports him for alternative reasons.

Why? Why, would anyone support someone that lies, (putting aside the other issues). A man’s word is his bond. I taught my children to tell the truth no matter how painful it may be. Guess this didn’t happen for MV7 and if it did, guess he has a really slow learning curve. I own a business. If I have an employee lie to me he/she is gone, no if/and/buts. I need to trust my employees. Cannot, will not tolerate it. Why should anyone else tolerate it? Why is it so easy to turn a blind eye to someone lying?

By Beckster

September 27, 2007 9:42 AM | Link to this

I do not agree with Mr. Moore’s assessment of the crowd who attended the ESPN event. I don’t believe that the majority of that crowd gives a crap about Vick being a player on the Falcons. Or watching his amazing talents. And the Falcons certainly are not extraordinary either with Vick or without. At least from a football standpoint. They were a mediocre team with Vick and now they are even less.

The reason why the majority of the crowd booed and hissed Mr. Moore and all of the other panelist who presented the facts are because they are racist. They think Vick is entitled to special treatment because he is black. They think he is being picked on and made an example because he is black. They are excuse makers, and in denial. They want to blame Vick’s problems with everything other than what is the truth. I’ve heard them all. From Whoopi saying that it is not his fault because of the culture Vick grew up in, to the old standby of “he was hanging out with the wrong people.”

This is an entirely racial issue. If this was an incredibly talented white quarterback - so Peyton Manning, and he was convicted and admitted guilt to these things - I can assure you that Falcon fans, certainly not black Falcon fans, would be hostile towards those who were on the panel the other night. In fact they would most likely be critical.

Wake up African-Americans. Quit playing the blame game and see through your prejudices to find the truth.

By KOOL FREE

September 27, 2007 9:42 AM | Link to this

Not necesarily he put himself in the wrong situation, but he should be punished and let allowed to play for Atl again a year off and a big fine bottom line he fought a dog nobody wants Terrence Moore why don’t you go to your local humane society and rescue a pitbull!!!

By Ookie

September 27, 2007 9:43 AM | Link to this

African-American community: You should be ashamed of yourself for your blind loyalty to Michael Vick.

You want to move forward in society, you want to be seen as equals, you want to be taken seriously……HOW THE HELL CAN YOU BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY WHEN YOU ACT LIKE IDIOTS?

By Erik

September 27, 2007 9:43 AM | Link to this

For all of you saying Vick smoked pot because he’s depressed or in a bad legal situation… please. Do you really think this is the first time he’s smoked pot????? Bong at the Miami airport ring a bell, or maybe the photo of him in that limo smoking a “blunt”.

Have you ever considered the idea that maybe, just maybe, he’s got a problem with pot, or that he’s just incredibly stupid? He could carve a guy in two and you’d still support him. Yes, he does need help, but one has to help himself first before others can help him.

As for the glass houses comments, true, we are all sinners. Many of us have probably smoked pot. But, the difference is, many of are NOT the face of an NFL franchise. Many of us are NOT the highest paid player in the most successful sports league on the planet. Many of us would NOT smoke pot when we were already facing prison time for a felony. Vick chose a certain lifestyle over his team, this city, millions of dollars, and the FANS. He spit in all of our faces. Deal with it.

By Rob

September 27, 2007 9:43 AM | Link to this

You people that attack Terrence Moore and support Michael Vick, remember that Mike was given every chance to come clean to the Commissioner. He failed to do so twice. That is why he was suspended WITH PAY initially. This Commissioner has made it a priority to clean up the bad behavior in this league. He is dealing with issues his predecessors failed to deal with. Was Pacman Jones treated unfairly? Nobody is jumping up and down for him…Playing in the NFL is a priveledge, not a right. One last thing…If Vick were white would the same people be defending him?

By Gandalf, the Gray

September 27, 2007 9:44 AM | Link to this

first off, there is no such thing as an AA comunity. There is a community, but to base it on race is foolish and shortsighted. Why can’t we just get along and be americans? This whole issue is about an idiot that is blessed with certain talents. No one likes Vick for what he says, if he didn’t have such quick feet, he would have been the THUG he pretends to be. well in light of the things that he has done, He is just a THUG with quick feet. DON’T think he represents a certain “community”. He doesn’t. He represents HIP HOP culture at it’s worst. A MAN WITH THE WORLD AT HIS FEET, that makes horrible horrible decisions. HE IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE A THUG.

By Marie

September 27, 2007 9:44 AM | Link to this

Earl you said: By Earl

September 27, 2007 9:23 AM | Link to this

To Marie;

It’s good to know where your values are (ie., it’s not important whether you’ve raped, murdered someone etc and so on, participated in dogfighting, drug abuse) so long as you can buy his sports memorabilia. And of course, the corporations in America should be forced to be saddled with these idiots b/c people like you are willing to overlook these transgressions so you can buy their jersey.

Sir you are an idiot that has neither the logic or reasoning ability to understand my post. For your information, I have never purchased a Michael Vick jersey or anyone else’s jerseys or any sports memorabilia for that matter. I DO NOT take sports that seriously. The point I was making (if you can keep up with me) is that the NFL and other major retailers have r