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By Daniel

August 6, 2007 7:58 PM | Link to this

I rather go 0 and 16 with Joey harrington leading our Falcons then go 16 and 0 with that thug dog killer leading our falcons. Just get rid of that over rated dog killer and let the rebuilding begin.The falcons have been in the league now 41 years and in those 41 years we have only truely have only had one true franchise QB tolead us and that was steve bartkowski.Michael Vick could have been the one to replace bart as our only true QB, but his dog killing ways toke hold of him, After Bartkowski,I will name our best QB’s after bart, I say Chris Miller, Chris Chandler, General Bob Lee and thats pretty much it, Best coaches starting with Leeman bennett, Dan reeves, Norm Van Broklin, Jerry Glanville and Jim Mora tied, Worst falcon coach ever, tie between Marion Cambell and Dan Henning

By D-MAN

August 6, 2007 8:07 PM | Link to this

I still find it hard to believe that a guy that makes 130 million in a contract would be so stupid to throw it all away and screw the owner and his teamamtes in the process. Oh, and also the effect this has on the long suffering loyal fans that have wished for a time when all of the pieces would just fit together. Here we have a good coach, a good system, an owner that wants to spend money to get good players and Vick has to pull this. What an idiot!

By NASCARfan

August 6, 2007 8:30 PM | Link to this

To me, the most telling statement was, “We have the right coach.”

To me, that tells me that a guy like Brooking was sick and tired of the unprofessionalism that ran rampant with Little Jimmy Mora and his joke of a coaching staff.

I mean, seriously, how does Warrick Dunn not get 50 catches a year, Greg Knapp? Mike Vick was able to get it to him a bunch under Reeves, so what’s YOUR excuse?

Also, Bradley, I have a hard time believing that DHall is going to get away with his 1 unsportsmanlike conduct 15 yard foul a game like he was under Little Jimmy’s staff. I have a feeling, that if DHall continues to play like an immature child, that he’ll find a seat on the bench, because Petrino and his coaches don’t seem the kind of guys who are going to put up with that kind of crap.

I trust Petrino. And you know what? After listening to Harrington’s interview last week on 680theFan, I trust Harrington. Remember, the NFL is replete with QBs who failed with other teams (because those teams SUCKED) and won with better teams. As bad as people think the Falcons have it right now, they have more talent than the Lions had those years, and more talent than Miami had last year. Just remember some of these names: Brad Johnson, Ken Stabler, Steve Young, Vinny Testeverde.

All those guys played on subpar teams and were thought to be busts, or what have you. Then, they went to good teams, and those QBs played much, much better.

I trust in Petrino, and I trust in Harrington.

By brewdawg

August 6, 2007 8:32 PM | Link to this

Hey Daniel, On going “0 and 16” with Joey Harrington… be careful what you wish for, you just might get it. :)

By dk0614

August 6, 2007 8:36 PM | Link to this

It is hard to believe that anyone with all that Vick had would just throw it all away for something like dogfighting.Its sad especially for the animals but its also sad that someone who could have been great may now only be remembered for the bad he did.

By Ron Roberts

August 6, 2007 8:37 PM | Link to this

Folks, I live in New Orleans, and you wouldn’t believe the way this market covers the Saints. Granted, they don’t have the Braves’ in a pennant race to distract their sports page writers or TV and radio sports staffs to follow, but it’s very Green Bay-like here.

If I wanted to read it, each day I’d get an update from camp. Who did well, who didn’t; who’s a surprise, who’s a dud; if I went back to last season, I’d have DAILY updates about the progress of heir new free-agent quarterback.

I’m truly disappointed that I don’t get more in-depth coverage of teh Falcons via the local (Atlanta) media outlets noline.

The audience in New Orleans is eating it up; obviously they’re coming off a surreal season, but we’re coming off a surrel (in the opposte sense) off-season. I’d like to know how Joey Harrington’s looking; how his chemistry with the wideouts is developing; if Jerious Norwood looks ready to be a lead back, or if our new defensive coordinator’s scheme is taking positive strides.

I’m sick of the daily Falcons’ chatter being about Vick’s damned trial. Aside from that, we’ve gotten one, count ‘em, one, column about our new starting quarterback. Now a column about the elder statesman on defense feeling confident in the team. No details, no bits and pieces… just generalized bloviating about being confident, but with stark reminders of times before this franchise had to deal with monumental losses on offense, only to be met with mediocrity.

Can we get some real reporting from Flowery Branch, about, oh, i don’t know, football?

By Mr. Gilley

August 6, 2007 8:57 PM | Link to this

I know this isn’t a blog about Vick but I had no other forum to express myself. The poll asking is it ever appropriate for people to make jokes about dogfighting or Mike VICk situation proves that people ANGER and HATE is NOT ABOUT LOVE FOR DOGS BUT PURE HATE FOR VICK. 60% Said its ok to joke but they are the same people who swear a person is so bad for allegedly fighting dogs.. HYPOCRITES!!!!

By stephen

August 6, 2007 9:19 PM | Link to this

What people fail to realize is that the single greatest point of impact for a quarterback is the offensive line. Look for Schaub to be Carr part II. Look for Carr to be starting by mid-season with an offensive line that will afford him the time required to be a successful NFL QB.

By DbleD25

August 6, 2007 9:45 PM | Link to this

I love it, Dunn the other week, Brooking now. The same two little girls that openbed their big mouths in ‘03 are talking stupid again. They KNOW THEY CAN’T DO IT WTHOUT VICK, I don’t know why they just won’t admit it. Its not like either of those two can do anything to help the winning cause anyway. I love, Atlanta NoVicks, 3-13, like y’all are used to.

By Singletary

August 6, 2007 9:53 PM | Link to this

There are a lot of factors going into the team this year with the biggest being how quickly the veterans (Brooking, Boley, Demo, Dunn, Alge, Abraham,Hall, etc.) can train the newbies.

Even bigger is the continuous shuffling at WR? Is Horn providing any leadership? Is there still a lot of dropped passes? Still afraid we’re looking at very bad W-L ratio.

By Roswell Ed

August 6, 2007 9:56 PM | Link to this

DbleD25?

Do what?

Go 7-9 again?

We lost with him and we can lose without him.

Isn’t there a dog fighting match you and your BOYZ should be at?

By timboy6

August 6, 2007 10:23 PM | Link to this

I have a golden retriver that my wife and I got after all of our children were grown and had left home. This dog has become our child. This animal is so gentle we’ve had him around 6 month old grandchildren and he would never harm them. He trusts all humans and will walk up to any stranger without any threat at all. No one has ever raised a hand to him and he loves people, especially children. We love this animal very much and really don’t know what we would do without him. That being said, I’ve tried to imagine someone doing the things that these men have been charged with and, if they are indeed guilty, which after reading the federal indictment, I’m pretty sure they are, they should be punished to the full extent. These dogs are helpless and look to humans for guidance. I’m also a big Falcons fan and want to see them win, but I’d hope we never see Michael Vick in a Falcon uniform again. If someone could do the things to animals like this, how much could they think of the human race? Who knows, even DJ could be a diamond in the rough!

By The Grinch

August 6, 2007 10:42 PM | Link to this

For god’s sake, please everyone shut the f%^# up about Vick. He’s not here, and there are 53 men who are (more at the moment, obviously, but you know what I mean). Would we be a better team with him? Of course. Should we still root for the team we have now anyway? Obviously there are a whole lot of you who weren’t Falcons fans prior to 2001, or you’d be rallying around the team and not p** and moaning about Vick and what he does off the field. Hey, I love dogs too; what the hell has that got to do with football (besides UGA)? Even before this story broke, every time I ever looked up an article about the Falcons, or any newspaper or website’s power rankings, all that was ever said was “As goes Vick, so go the Falcons” or “Vick must improve his accuracy for the Falcons to compete.” No %&%#. It’s almost like the media didn’t even need to watch our team; they could just cut and paste their last article. I’ll personally be happy as hell if we can ever get some solid, nationwide coverage (or even local stuff for that matter) that doesn’t involve Vick. Jesus, this is worse than T.O.

By UGA SUX full of rednecks

August 6, 2007 11:00 PM | Link to this

Timboy people kill dogs right here in georia by the truck loads . dog cats deers wild hogs . you pople are hipocrites. the falcon have a player that they say kill a dog where is the outrage. go to bass pro shop they help kill a lot of animal. I have a jack and I love him but guess hat he is a damm dog. I hope vick come back and prove you hipocrites wrong! And if you don’t want to see vick go watch the redneck team UGA!

By e.b.

August 6, 2007 11:12 PM | Link to this

They won’t go 0-16, the defense is too good this year. Harrington will pass the ball better, not sure about his accuracy, but I do hope the O-Line is better.

By logic

August 6, 2007 11:30 PM | Link to this

April,

You might want to stay away from the hung and black in the same sentence. Any talk of lynching may upset certain over sensitive people.

By ED FROM ELLIJAY

August 7, 2007 10:31 AM | Link to this

CAN YOU SAY SHOCKLEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HARRINGTON IS NOT THE MAN!!

By The illiteracy of Vick defenders is proof

August 7, 2007 10:47 AM | Link to this

The fact that most of the Vick defenders on this blog can’t spell, demonstrates the lack of intelligence they use to make decisions or decide whose innocent or guilty.

By Barry

August 7, 2007 10:47 AM | Link to this

Hey Yall:

Here we go again. Another football season with controversy all over the leaugu on every city. Here in Atlanta, you know what we got. That dogfighting BS. I believe Vick would have got less pub if he killed, raped, and/or assaulted another human being. Truthfully, in my opinion, the hell with them dogs. There are human beings being oppressed, discriminated against, wrongfully imprisoned, homeless, and many other man inhumanity against man but these “beastialitist” are crying about the death of some dogs. All I know is that they better get their priority right with GOD. God is about the life of human beings. And if your life is about crying for the death of some animals who man has dominion over, rather than rallying the charge against the blantant obvious wrongdoings to people in this country then we know what God you worship. It is not the God of Abraham, Issac, Jacob, and Jesus. Instead, you are use a dog incident to try and crucify another human being, one of God’s children. You need to find something better to do with your time than wallowing about some dead dogs. Evidently you are not unemployed, homeless, hungry, illegally incarcerated, sick with a disease, etc: Human issues. I pray that you beastialitist find GOD and get your protest on more pressing human concerns in America and the world. Quit acting like you care some much about the weak on the earth. The weak on this Earth that God cares about are the weak in SPIRIT who are oppressed by human issues not animal issues. These humans are the ones we should save not animals. Let’s protest the system and issues that allow these issues to destroy human lives in this country and the world. Get your priority right “beastialitist: those who love animals issues more than human being issue”.

As Jesus Said: Forgive Them Lord. They Know Not What They Do.

SSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! This is a SECRET from a FALCON FAN. TELL EVERYBODY.

GOD BLESS AND PROTECT YOU MICHAEL VICK.

Ringold

By UnHappyFan

August 7, 2007 11:07 AM | Link to this

Right now, I think the Falcons are grasping for breath. The vets will step up and say what they need to hear and thats fine. Thats what happens when life turns.

The cold fact is, unlike NewOrleans, there exists on overwhelming national dislike for this franchise and it’s star.

Anybody who has ever played a sport knows how much psychology can be a factor.

No matter the coach, owner, or player, the Falcons are at a massive disadvantage. And as far as I’m concerned they (Falcon management not players) are getting justice.

By Akagi

August 7, 2007 11:29 AM | Link to this

For all those that keep saying how great Dan Reeves was—remember that he left Atlanta with a losing record, he left the Giants with a losing record and his success in Denver was on the shoulders (or rather arm) of John Elway. Yes he made it to three super bowls in Denver (and each one was worse than the previous, reaching his masterpiece in January of 1990 when he lost to the 49ers 55-10).

No doubt Denver could have put more points on the board against Atlanta than they did but by the 3rd quarter, Mike knew he had the game won and played a very conservative second half.

Yes, if you had Dan back, maybe you’d win a few more division titles, maybe even make it back to a super bowl, but win it all. Not with him as your coach. As a long time Bronco fan I can tell you that Dan Reeves isn’t the answer—unless it is a pretty dumb question.

On the eve of Elway’s second super bowl victory, a reporter commented to him about all the times he brought Denver back from the brink of defeat in the closing minutes of a game (remember “the drive” against the Browns in the AFC Championship game?) and Elway responded that if not for Dan Reeves, many of those comebacks would have been unnecessary.

Firing Reeves was not a mistake, hiring Mora was.

By SICK AND TIRED

August 7, 2007 11:40 AM | Link to this

I’m so tired of coming to the blogs everyday and reading about all of the HATE that is being displayed towards Michael Vick. You know it’s so funny because before this he had a lot of people who could say nothing but good things about him. Now correct me if I’m wrong, BUT doesn’t the constitution say that WE All INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY??? What Fickle FANS the Atlanta Falcons are. Quick to Judge. Yes, I’ve read the indictment and if he is proven guilty of the charges then he will be dealt with accordingly BUT until then he deserves what every other American should be given A FAR CHANCE. There are far worse crimes that are being committed on a daily basis, but we aren’t talking about them we are talking about Vick. We are fighting a useless war about what? I still haven’t figured that one out. What is the difference in killling deer? That is done everyday Hell there is even a “Deer Hunting Season” Those are defensless animals but you don’t hear anything about that do you. I don’t want to make it a Race Issue, but basically that is what it boils down to. Kobe Bryant was treated the same way when he “Raped” that girl in Denver and believe me I’m not a Laker’s Fan nor Kobe Bryant but I’m sick of the racist remarks about the “ignorant fans” who can’t speak or spell. I happen to be an Educated African American and I’m not supporting Vick because of his race but because he deserves a chance until he has his day in court. Suppose he is found not guilty how many of you will come on here and apologize… NOT A ONE !!! Because you are the IGNORANT ONES!! All I can do is say to MV #7 is to keep your head up!!

By midnite

August 7, 2007 11:58 AM | Link to this

Oh Barry, Barry, Barry … where shall I begin? I know you are truly forgiven because you obviously “know not what you do!” Can you say, “illegal?” Dogfighting is illegal, end of story. If Mike Vick has broken the laws of our land, then he must pay the penalty. The issue is not one of right or wrong with regard to dogfighting (it is wrong, btw) but rather the issue is one of Mike Vick’s alleged illegal activities. And your use of the term “beastialitist” makes me think that you have issues with bestiality, lol.

By Daryl

August 7, 2007 12:27 PM | Link to this

When you’ll “Vick haters’” grandparents were lynching black men back in the pre-civil rights era, were you’ll ostracizing your fellow man for his humane behavior? Oh, I forgot. This is not a race issue, it’s a modern day dog issue.

By Barry

August 7, 2007 12:32 PM | Link to this

Hey Yall:

I usually don’t respond to blogs I have written. However, some simple soul called “Midnight” stated I had an issue with “beastialitist”. If he was smart and read my blog, it is obvious I love humans more than animals (duh). We must beware of “beastialitist” which equates to “beastiality”. Next, they will be promulgating the kissing and having sex with animals; an ABOMINATION and distasteful act in the eyes of my GOD/JEHOVAH: The God of braham, Issac, Jacob, and Jesus. Repent from your ways and help God help human beings, God’s children, and their issues in this world, moreso than animals.

God Bless You, MIDNIGHT.

GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!

By william

August 7, 2007 12:36 PM | Link to this

For all the Vick supporters, yes he can run but stop and think about the passing yards he has, how many games did he have last year where he didn’t pass for 100 yds, I can’t remember for sure but there was games where he threw for 70-90 yds…You can’t win Super Bowls with QB’s who do that, good teams will shut down a QB who relies on his running, look what Tampa does to Atlanta, Vick has had his worst games playing them, they zone in on stopping his running..A pro QB needs 250-350 yds per game via the air, any more then 350 is just that much better…The last full season that Cullpepper played he had over 4,000 yds through the air, look at your winning teams, i just don’t see Vick ever getting his passing game together and now he got involved with this dog fighting mess, i think it will be an early retirement for the QB from V. Tech…It’s a shame but there is no one to blame but him..With all that money i think i could have found something else to do with my spare time, he could have done so much good with all that money, if he had just wanted to.. Last time i heard he had 5 Lawyers…if he fights this they will end up with the bulk of his money and he will pretty much be left broke.. If he is guilty he should plead guilty, at least he will have some money left and the lawyers want get it all. By admitting his guilt the healing can begin and the sooner this mess will be behind him and he might have a chance of playing ball again, people will forgive but he needs to admit his mistakes..

By Falcons Dude

August 7, 2007 12:44 PM | Link to this

Everyone, get over it. Michael Vick is gone. And someone made the point very well. With the exception of only ONE YEAR, Michael Vick never got CLOSE to the Super Bowl. In 6 years, he was on the NFC Championship once, and got beat easily. the rest of the time, not even close. So, everyone who says the Falcons have no chance without him, he proved we have no chance with him either.

The only thing Michael Vick can do is make a few exciting runs each season. That is it. Nothing else. He can’t make a team win consistently and he can’t get a team to the Super Bowl. You can’t argue otherwise, since he didn’t do it in all his years here. Sorry guys, but Michael Vick is a bust. Plain and simple.

That said, life goes on. We now have a new QB. Michael is gone, and that is it. He is no longer here and it does no good to worry about him any more. We need to support our new QB and our new team. Who cares what the team might have been with Michael, because we no longer have Michael. We have Joey, and we have to hope that Joey will be like a Steve Young or a Brett Favre, someone who was terrible with their first teams and come into their own with a new team and lead us into a new era and into the playoffs. Joey has a good arm and good leadership skills. He has ability. Give him a chance folks.

By midnite

August 7, 2007 1:08 PM | Link to this

Oh Barry, Barry, Barry … God loves the animals too, don’t you remember the story of Noah and the Ark? Get over your stupid self and recognize the current issue being discussed is the ILLEGALITY of Mike Vick’s alleged dogfighting. No one here, especially myself, has elevated the care of animals above that of humans. btw it’s “midnite”, check your spelling and brush up on your reading skills. You can keep your blessing, I have already been blessed by the Almighty. Barry, don’t let your bitterness consume you or your ignorance destroy you. Oh, and bless you dear brother.

By Al Sharpton

August 7, 2007 1:11 PM | Link to this

I hate dogs and whites!! Death to them ALL!!!!

By Baller12

August 7, 2007 1:13 PM | Link to this

I see all the rage against dog fighting, but where is the rage against NFL players who beat their wives????? I gues dogs are more important than women in this society….Where are all the activist against the NFL players and why aren’t the players suspended for going upside defenseless women heads????? It has been noted that the NFL is full of players with charges for domestic abuse, but no one can muster up a fight for these women, but their is a freaking public outcry for a freaking dog who cannot talk….Only in America is this type of crap tolerated…..Dogs over WOMEN…..

By marbo

August 7, 2007 1:16 PM | Link to this

AHH mr. midnite, i don’t remember any DOGS on the ark….do you? I didn’t think so and the bible says that if you are not admitted into the kingdom of heaven you will remain outside with the other lost souls, demons and guess who? D.O.G.S!! Go find that in the bible why don’t cha? It’s there.

By midnite

August 7, 2007 1:16 PM | Link to this

Hey Sick and Tired, you claim to be educated but your post begs to differ. First, it should be pointed out that if you did it, you’re guilty, no matter what. So you’re not innocent unless you’re truly innocent. However, our system presumes innocence.

The concept of the presumption of innocence is one of the most basic in our system of justice. However, in so many words, it is not codified in the text of the Constitution. This basic right comes to us, like many things, from English jurisprudence, and has been a part of that system for so long, that it is considered common law. The concept is embodied in several provisions of the Constitution, however, such as the right to remain silent and the right to a jury.

So back to school with you, Sick and Tired or perhaps you should evoke your right to remain silent, lol.

By David Duke

August 7, 2007 1:23 PM | Link to this

God has nothing to do with Mike Vick’s predicament. He’s , in a radio interview, made allusions to having found God. He didn’t need to search for him. god’s b een there all along. Mike Vick is a criminal and all you vick fans are trying to twist things around but it won’t work. Ya’ll just eat your watermelon and shut up!

By marbo

August 7, 2007 1:28 PM | Link to this

Ohh, David Duke you know God huh? LMAO!!!

By midnite

August 7, 2007 1:37 PM | Link to this

Oh marbo, from what bible are you reading? The Holy Bible sternly warns not to add to or take away from it’s content. You must be reading from the Mike Vick version. Your feeble attempt at quoting scripture was clouded by your overwhelming hatred. Chill my brotha so you can relax with that 40 oz whilst you fire up another blunt.

By David Duke

August 7, 2007 1:39 PM | Link to this

Marbo Mombulu, yes, I’m acquainted with the Lord. How about sparing us the phony AOLisms? We don’t care what you’re laughing off. Laugh this off sucker, Mike vick is under indictment on two Federal felony charges and more will soon be added. Mike Vick is through in the NFL but he’s going to be really big in prison. Mike Vick was involved in dogfighting and in other nefarious activities and he’s going to spend a long time in prison paying for it. Laugh that off Mombulu!

By derrick

August 7, 2007 1:39 PM | Link to this

i truely wish people would give vick a chance,to be proven wrong. have people forgot vick, just like dieon put poeple is the seats at the game vick caused the dome to have a waiting list!give tyhe man a chance please. we have never had a great team or a great management. i mean when dioen was thier where was his help. we glanville where was his personal. look at the qb green bay his,he was our. we lost him,and a coach who wanted to keep him. i ask the fans are you willing to lose a player who is just as important to to the real football fan, just like brett is to his city. give vick some talent,and lets see,if he can win. to all the atlanta fans, i know we are hungry for a winner,so stand behind vick please. every great player we let go,goes to a city the next year and win. history knows,and so should you !

By Baller12

August 7, 2007 1:43 PM | Link to this

Kill a dog and you’re thrown out of the NFL, you lose endorsements (Nike, Airtran, Rawlings)and your merchandise is no longer sold….Beat your wife or girlfriend as an NFL player and you’re only suspended for 2-4 games…..What is wrong with this picture…What is wrong with our society???? Dogs over WOMEN in these United States What a joke this country is….I know other nations are having a field day with this crap….and rightfully so…LOL

By David Duke

August 7, 2007 1:58 PM | Link to this

Derrick, dunce, Vick is under Federal indictment and he’s going to be going off to prison for a considerable spell. I support his right to be tried for his numerous crimes and so does the NFL. No team would want this clod just based upon his inability to be a good quarterback. Certainly, no team would want him when he leaves prison. He’ll be in his mid-thirties, a convicted felon who still has no football talent. Get over it Dunce! Vick is through in the NFL! I love it.

By David Duke

August 7, 2007 2:02 PM | Link to this

Ballerina, you’re laughter sounds hollow, forced and canned. You and all the other Vick suckers are trying to confuse the issue. It’s not working! Vick is going to prison for violations of Federal law. Keep laughing all the way to Joliet!

By Falcons Dude

August 7, 2007 2:07 PM | Link to this

The problem is, dogfighting is a felony, interstate dogfighting is a federal felony. Beating your wife is a misdemeanor, and often is not even that if the wife does not press charges. So you can’t compare the two. Sorry about that, but beating your wife is often not even “beating” in the terms you think it means.

While hitting anyone is reprehensible, when someone is accused of “beating their wife”, they often have merely pushed, shoved, or maybe slapped their wife. That is wrong, it is abbhorrent, it is, as said previously, reprehensible. But, it is done to someone who has the ability to leave, and to fight back, and to take measures to stop the attack or to walk away and never be beaten again. Of course, I am referring to the most common kind of “wife beating”, not the horrendous kind that gets the most coverage, when a man beats a woman horribly and THAT absolutely deserves worse than being thrown under the jail!

Dogs or any other animals do not have that option. And to those who compare dogfighting to deer hunting, watch a video of dogfighting and the training then tell me hunting is worst. A deer is shot, usually once and dies most often instantly or within minutes. A dog is trained for months, goes unfed, is raised in the worst conditions, then when they fight, they often fight for hours, breaking bones, tearing flesh, ripping each other to shreds.

Not the same thing. And, if deer were not hunted, because man has removed so many of deer’s natural predators through our building civilization, they would overpopulate and millions would starve to death. Hunting them is a kinder death than starvation.

Most of what I have read above appear to be written by people who really have no idea what they are talking about.

And again, who really cares, the fact is…MICHAEL VICK IS NOT OUR QB ANY MORE, SO GET OVER IT!

By Akagi

August 7, 2007 2:19 PM | Link to this

Sick and tired:

The US Constitution doesn’t say anything about innocent until proven guilty—this phrase is not found within this document. It does, however, require a speedy and public trial by an impartial jury.

But even if the Constitution did say that a person was innocent until proven guilty this only applies to the government—not to a public entity like the Falcons or the NFL or to the media or to the public or to me.

I am sure he is guilty as the day is long and I can—no matter the verdict of any court or jury—consider him as such just as the NFL can.

Care to recall what happened to the likes of Buck Weaver and Shoeless Joe Jackson? I think they were found not guilty in a court of law and then banned for life by Baseball Commissioner Kennesaw Mountain Landis.

In any event, since his own members of his crew are not turning on him and going to give testimony for the Feds—I’d say his changes of walking away without a Federal conviction is pretty slim and then the State gets to take its whacks at him.

Sorry, but stick a fork in him—he is as done as one of his dead dogs.

By Akagi

August 7, 2007 2:24 PM | Link to this

I meant now turning on him.

By william

August 7, 2007 2:33 PM | Link to this

2006 stats…16 games..Total passing yds for Vick = 2,371 Average of 146 per game. 3 games under 100 yds, the most in any game was 291 VS Cin.. there was 4 other QB’s with over 4,000 yds…D. Brees had 4410…P. Manning had 4397…M. Bulger had 4301. C.Palmer had 4035..Even with his 1000yds rushing he didn’t have 3500 yds total, passing and rushing combined. These stats came from the NFL web site.

I wish Matt all the luck in the world with his starting QB job in Texas, I think he will throw for better then 3500 yds in his first full season.

By David Duke

August 7, 2007 2:36 PM | Link to this

The people who are complaining about the inequality of the protection of law provided women and dogs respect neither. Their concern for women, deer, horses, bulls and other abused, hunted entities is newly found and feigned. The goal for them is to confuse the issue and to mitigate Vick’s involvement in illegal activity. Just wait! When the drug trafficking and tax evasion charges hit they’ll be all for that too. These are dark-hearted people with no respect for humanity or the rule of law.

By Barry

August 7, 2007 2:58 PM | Link to this

Hey Y all:

It appears I have a foolish “Devil” on here called “Midnight” who appears to be offended for his support of “beastiality”. He even talks of being blessed and by his coments it appears that he is being blessed by his father the “Devil” based upon hostile comments towards me. And yes, in the name of Jesus, I will blessing my dear brother Michael Vick. I surely will not be blessing no dog. And your sounding so self righteous about “illegalities”, you better check the illegalties being perpetrated against the poor, the homeless, the elderly, etc. by individuals and organizations in this system, and go after them. I am confident that you won’t, because you are a hypocrite of the worst kind. You are using this Vick and dog incident as your vehicle to vent your hate against this young man because you, and the people who think like you, are jealous of him and his economic status. All this young man has done is play football and be associated with some knucklehead friends, but you are so eager to judge him as committing a crime. Beware of your judgment. You and your kind may want to be God, but I got news for you, you are not GOD. He will be judging by the same weight you are judging in your last days on this earth and after.

God Bless.

By 2centsworth

August 7, 2007 3:11 PM | Link to this

Wow! Six (6) posts before the blog degenerated into a racial quagmire. I’m just hoping for back to back winning seasons. Of course I’ve been waiting for 41 years! First we had to overcome the Smith Family and their petty, mean and tightfisted ways. We finally had a chance under a new owner but MV decided that a $130 million contract wasn’t enough incentive to TRY to win against the Panthers if the Falcons couldn’t make it to the playoffs (or so he said). I’m just a Falcon fan who would like to be proud of our football team IN MY LIFETIME! Please hurry! Start a chinaman - who cares? Just field a winning team!

By wow

August 7, 2007 3:12 PM | Link to this

William I can tell your not the brightest person in the world. So if a qb throws for over 250 yards a game he can win the superbowl? WTF. Dude go back and check out the stats of Big Ben from his superbowl win. If I remember correctly he had a horrible game but they won because they have something Atlanta doesnt have. A FREAKING DEFENSE. Trent Dilfer put up barely average numbers and won a superbowl because he had a great defense. You bring up Carson Palmer and Marc Bulger but those teams didnt even make the playoffs. You stat freaks kill me. This inst fantasy league this is real football. Look up the qb in Detroit numbers. Dude threw for a lot of yards and touchdowns and the team still sucked. You know why. THEY HAD NO FREAKING DEFENSE. If the Falcons Defense was actually decent the last few years the Falcons easily make the playoffs. The defense blew at least 4 games two years ago and blowed a good 3 games the past season. You can pull up all the stats you want but if your defense sucks then its going to be hard to win any games. Matt Schaub can throw for 4000 yards this season and it wont matter because their defense is horrible and they have no offensive line. David Carr led the NFL in completion percentage last year and the team was still bad because they had a bad offensive line and defense. Its amazing to me that people only look at Vick for the teams problems but overlook a pass defense that let guys like Charlie Frye from Cleveland look like a pro bowler. One last point. You really think 5 laywers will take all his money? WOW enough said . You proved my point you are not really bright my friend. Tito your life is pathetic. Go get some pu&&y or something ASAP. You come on these blogs every day all day with different names trying to make a point but you come off as an idiot. YOU NEED A LIFE MAN.

By fatz

August 7, 2007 3:20 PM | Link to this

i imagine every blog, every day will be the same we will start talking about some DB or WR or the division or the schedule and by the 50th blogger we will be talking about where dogs are in the hierarchy of creation. When are all of you going to understand that this isn’t about black vs white- it is about green vs no-green… the NFL and TV advertising are driven by consumer discretionary spending- not by affirmative action. the NFL needs everybody to buy tickets and watch the game- and they are faced with a huge challenge of not alienating one group to promote the interests of another- which, in itself, is a sad statement of where we are in society. I saw an HBO show where Rollie Fingers complained about getting paid $29,000 to pitch in the early 70’s- and getting offered $1000 raise after the A’s won the WS. compare that to $130MM contracts, and you can see where there is no margin for error, and you can also understand why the players themselves will abandon MV in a heartbeat when their own paychecks start becoming an issue…

By Akagi

August 7, 2007 3:28 PM | Link to this

I am not jealous of Vick—I do think Vick is stupid and his decisions on and off the team show he is in fact stupid.

I am not a Falcons fan—haven’t been one since high school—and since the Falcons don’t have Denver on the schedule it doesn’t really matter to me outside of the few AFC teams Atlanta plays how well the Falcons perform.

However, Vick has shown he is no NFL QB. Most teams when they come to realize their QB is not NFL quality find a way to get a new QB (e.g. Brian Griese, Jake Plummer). Maybe this is the best thing that has ever happened to the Falcons—they have found a way to dump Vick—now—instead of three years from now when the Falcons are 23-25 and are looking for yet another coach.

By Rufus T. Shyne

August 7, 2007 4:05 PM | Link to this

hemmo facon fan. Wep oh mick vike dun gots hissef n a big mess. he fiten dogs an he not gone winn. he ackin like a man whats ben playen feetball wifout him feetball hat on. well dat awright. we gun mis ole mick vike but we sees him again when he gits out o dat big house. So long mick vike. Bye facon fan.

By Algonquin Poontane

August 7, 2007 4:15 PM | Link to this

I resents the insinuation and genuflection of the previous witness. His predelections and lack of racial insensitivity is demeaning and utterly appropo. I demand that thes scurrilous comments be inscribed from the record and that this blog be made a mockery of.

By Mr. and Mr. ken Strickland

August 7, 2007 4:23 PM | Link to this

My husband and I agree with the two previous posters. Thank you Mr. Shyne and Mr. Poontane.

By Falcon4Life

August 7, 2007 5:45 PM | Link to this

Daniel, you overzealous judgemental brat. Have you read the most recent indictment? Vick did not kill any dogs. He is only merely ACCUSED of funding the operation. I suppose you have never stepped on a spider, cockroach, or swatted a fly dead. My words to you… LET HE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN, CAST THE FIRST STONE. Jesus said that himself.

By innocence

August 7, 2007 5:50 PM | Link to this

Im with u Mike. Hold ur head up.

By MLK

August 7, 2007 5:52 PM | Link to this

David Duke you can put your last dollar on it your a* will burn in hell now blog that

By Falcon4Life

August 7, 2007 6:01 PM | Link to this

David Duke, Did you watch any of the games last year. I’m a secretary. I could have called better offensive plays than Knapp. You forgot about your white boys who couldn’t coach their way out of a wet paper sack. Hail to Mike Vick!!

By V. Rice

August 7, 2007 6:26 PM | Link to this

Who among you has stopped to view the facts. Mike has been alleged to be a part of dog fighting.(PERIOD!!) You speak as if you are judge jury and were there seeing him participate.

Thought: You own a house in Virginia and reside in ATL. You find a tenant and rent it out. As long as the checks are paid on time for rent, what reason do you have to go to the residence? If there was illegal activity going on inside the house,(none.) How would you know? In this scenario, you are not even dealing with family, pesrons you would impart even more trust on. The farthest thought from your mind is that they are doing something illegal. If it is found that illegal activity is happening, is law enforcement justified in implicating you, possibly. The fact still remains though, you were unaware.

By V. Rice

August 7, 2007 6:31 PM | Link to this

Hiporits - Boxing is a savage sport in which human athletes are trained to literally beat someone until they are either the last one standing or others judging can say they won. People bet on this, participants have suffered lifelong mental injuries as well as died from this, yet it is legal. How humane is that? Where was PETA when the dog was tied to a truck and dragged, where was the national outcry? You must love america, why? The only place in the world where the value a dog’s life is more important than yours.

By Terry

August 7, 2007 6:50 PM | Link to this

The saddest part of the Vick situation is seeing the rednecks and racists coming out of their trailers.We haven’t made any progress. A sad day.

By jwberrie

August 7, 2007 7:01 PM | Link to this

remember, Dog is God spelled backwards.

By V. Rice

August 7, 2007 7:08 PM | Link to this

you worship them and see how far you go

By Redder Neck than thou!!!

August 7, 2007 7:31 PM | Link to this

OK the constitution does not exspicitaly state that anyone, government included, is presumed innocent until proven guilty by a court of law. However, it universally accpeted and proven under the 5th, 6th, and 14th ammendments of the constitution. Additionally the concept was upheld in Coffin v. United States.

Havine said that we can make judgement based on the information presented to us. If that informaton is found to be true adn enterted into evidence then Micheal and his defense team have a lot to worry about.

But plese consider this, Micheal may be aquitted becauset the procesecution failed to prove thier case or jury nullification due to race and the NFL can still suspend him as they see fit. An aquittal should not be read as innocent. Remember OJ, guilty as sin but the procecution failed in convincing a jury of thier case.

By check the stats

August 7, 2007 9:41 PM | Link to this

Tito you fail to give the defense any blame for anything so here are some stats for you. Knowing how you operate I know you will find a way to still put it back on Vick.

http://chronicle.augusta.com/sports/football/pro/stats/teams/720_stats.shtml

http://chronicle.augusta.com/sports/football/pro/stats/teams/720_stats.shtml

From looking at these stats it seems the defense was the main problem. They allowed the other team to convert on 4th downs over 50% of the time. They gave up over 100 yards per game rushing..They even allowed the other team to complete 62% of their passes . Im sorry but when your defense is getting picked apart like this then all the blame cant go to the offense. The defense also sucked in the first and 4th quarters. I can go find some more stats for you later.

By Concerned

August 7, 2007 10:46 PM | Link to this

Do you think the NFL will suspend or ban every football player associated with dogfighting? What ever happen to innocent until proven guilty? Not to long ago blacks were hung when someone thought they were guilty and years later found innocent? What a tragedy and disgrace for this nation. Please tell Terrance Moore.

By David Duke

August 7, 2007 10:55 PM | Link to this

It’s T-e-r-e-n-c-e Moore moron. Vick hasn’t been lynched. He’s been indicted for two Federal felonies and others will be coming soon. Yes, every football player involved in dogfighting will be suspended!

By tito still doesnt get it

August 7, 2007 11:26 PM | Link to this

I figured Tito would find a way to not give the defense any blame

By David Duke

August 7, 2007 11:39 PM | Link to this

You keep calling me Tito and I’m not even acquainted with anyone going by that name. The defense doesn’t deserve any blame. The blame rests solely on Vick’s shoulders and pointy head.

By Logic

August 7, 2007 11:57 PM | Link to this

Glad to see MLK and Falcon4Life jumped on the lynching arguement I proposed last night. I knew someone would run with it when nothing else worked…

By Tito always blows his cover

August 8, 2007 12:58 AM | Link to this

A hit dog will holler. I never said you were Tito but I knew you were. TITO GIVE IT UP

By JIMMY

August 8, 2007 2:24 AM | Link to this

YOU GUYS ARE A TRIP. I HAVE BEEN A FALCONS FAN FOR AS LONG AS I CAN REMEMBER. WIN OR LOSE I STILL CHEER FOR THEM. ALL OF LAST SEASON YOU CANT BLAME VICK. DUE TO THE FACT OF DROPPED PASSES, INJURIES, AND THE FACT THAT THE O-LINE DID NOT PROTECT VICK, AND AT THE TIME THE OFFENSIVE CORDINATER WAS NOT DOING HIS JOB, WHAT DO YOU EXPECT. THAT ARE SOME OF YOU GUYS MOTO WHEN IT IS WRONG BLAME VICK. ON TO THE DOGFIGHTING. PEOPLE CAN ALWAYS SAY VICK WAS THERE. UNLESS THEY GOT PICTURES OR VIDEOES THEY CANT DO A DAMN THING. HE MIGHT PAY A FINE FOR IT WAS HIS PROPERTY. NOW THE CURRENT SITUATION. BOBBY PETRINO HAS MADE THE FALCONS A BETTER TEAM. ALONG WITH THE DRAFT PICKS, THE O-LINE AND D-LINE COACHES, AND THE FREE AGENTS WE HAVE GOTTEN OUR SELF A PRETTY GOOD PLAY OFF TEAM. JUST WAIT UNTIL THE END OF THE SEASON. ALSO VICK WILL BE BACK IN FALCONS UNIFORM AND HE WILL AT ONE POINT WIN THE SUPER BOWL FOR US.