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DEL.ICIO.USVick can’t even speak for himself
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Terence Moore
Richmond — In spite of the multiple chances to get it right through the days, months and years, ranging from that water-bottle fiasco to flipping off the hometown fans to the stiffing of those U.S. congressmen to his 18-page indictment surrounding illegal dogfighting, Michael Vick still doesn’t get it.
Where was he? After the riveting 54 minutes it took on Thursday inside a stuffed room at the Lewis F. Powell Jr. U.S. Courthouse for a federal judge to set Vick’s bond in that dogfighting case and for another federal judge to run the arraignment proceedings, everybody was there outside the courthouse before the microphones.
Well, almost everybody. You had Vick’s four lawyers. You had his mother, Brenda Boddie, standing as a clear-eyed supporter in brilliant red beside noted defense attorney Billy Martin, the leader of Vick’s dream team. You had a slew of television cameras and notebook pads representing media outlets from various parts of the western hemisphere.
There was no Michael Vick. Then again, such was the case after the Ron Mexico thing regarding herpes charges and the missing-watch thing at the Atlanta airport security involving one of his so-called “crew” members and all those other things involving Vick that Falcons officials allowed their troubled quarterback to shrug away while hiding.
This time, with the universe watching, waiting and wondering, Martin said of his missing client, “He’s still inside [the courtroom] signing papers.”
Oh. Just a crazy thought: If Vick really does want folks to know that he is innocent in bold and loud terms (which Martin kept alluding to), why didn’t his dream team wait until star client finished signing those papers before starting such a high-profile news conference? Since police in Surry County discovered an elaborate dogfighting ring at one of Vick’s Virginia homes in April, he has said virtually nothing. He did plead not guilty with little emotion Thursday before one of those federal judges and about 100 live witnesses, but he has to do more than that. He has to take responsibility for his actions in public for one of the few times during his NFL life.
Mostly, Vick has to realize that he’s fighting not only for his freedom but for his reputation. Both are on shaky ground, since the feds have a celebrated 95 percent conviction rate. Plus, many of those deafening boos he heard from hundreds of spectators after he arrived at the steps of the courthouse were coming from those living in his native Virginia.
This was as sad as it gets for an imploding sports hero. After the three other co-defendants were marched into the courtroom, Vick appeared a minute later, with whispers exploding throughout the place. Why is he wearing a dark suit and dark blue shirt and tie? (Most wear crisp white shirts to these settings). What is he thinking with his teammates preparing for training camp while he’s sitting there in anticipation of those chilling words?
“ALL RISE.” The other federal judge came in for the arraignment, and following a few responses of “Yes sir,” and a “not guilty” plea, it was over. Actually, it should have been the beginning for Vick to start his PR push with the public by rushing outside with the rest of his handlers and supporters, but it didn’t happen.
In a different time and for different reasons, Simon & Garfunkel would have moaned on what was a beautifully ugly day in Richmond County, “Where have you gone, Michael Vick, the miracle in cleats for the ages? The Falcons Nation turns its angry eyes away from you.” The same goes for the Virginia Nation, once huge for Vick as a standout for the Hokies in Blacksburg.
On the west end of Richmond, they’ve got gigantic statues of Confederate heroes and Virginia icon Arthur Ashe on pedestals along Monument Avenue. Chances are Vick won’t join their ranks any time soon, especially after he sauntered into the U.S. Courthouse as Case No. 3:07CR274.
Not exactly the stuff that inspires bronzed immortality.
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By jd
July 26, 2007 7:45 PM | Link to this
Right on Terence! Get thid thug out of town!
By John
July 26, 2007 7:49 PM | Link to this
It’s simple Terence. Vick was advised by his lawyers to keep quiet and let them do their job. I am sick and tired of all the Vick bashers. Everyone needs to keep quiet and let this play out. Vick is innocent until proven guilty. Isn’t this an american right? By the way, Vick and his lawyers have the feds exactly where they want them.
By Hayes
July 26, 2007 7:50 PM | Link to this
If he is found guilty than I hope he never plays another down for ANY team…Arena League included. No matter which way one spins it. A man that is guilty of this is an evil, evil person. Look how Dahmer started out….
By Jerry
July 26, 2007 7:52 PM | Link to this
I agree he should have spoke… What he should have said was “Mr. Moore, you sir are the biggest disgrace to the City of Atlanta”
And he would be justified in doing so. Mr. Moore I’m white so don’t give me any race crap. Your closet may be full of a whole lot more than Mikes. You are so quick to point your finger. Did you not listen to the judge today? You Terrence are scum. Thats right you heard it. SCUM in the worst of ways. Quite trying to play God, you should hit your knees in prayer.
PS How much did you donate to the VA tech victims. I will answer for you. I say not a dime!
By Russ Brock
July 26, 2007 7:55 PM | Link to this
What “reputation?” Do you mean his reputation for specially designed water bottles with secret compartments obviously for hind illegal substances? Or do you mean his reputation for spreading sexually transmitted diseases under false names? Perhaps you mean his reputation for making obscene gestures toward the thousands of fools - er, fans - who have supported him and paid his insane salary for the last six years. Or maybe you mean the quitter Vick back in Philadelphia last year, last game of the season, and his last as a Falcon - where he faked an injury rather than playing on and giving us a ray of hope for this year. The only reputation Vick has is a deservedly crappy one. I pray that once he gets off, and he will, based on the O.J. strategy (get a couple of blacks on the jury and they will find him not guilty regardless of the evidence), he will still be too despised to play in a Falcons uniform again. Hopefully, the entire NFL will close their doors to him if Goodell hasn’t got the guts to ban him for life. So what? Vick has enough of the Super-Sap Arthur Blank’s money to kick back for life and start doing dope with his posse on a regular basis instead of just the off-season, or that is until he blows it all or is robbed blind like Mike Tyson, Darryl Strawberry, Ricky Williams, Joe Louis, Tony Dorsett (declared bankruptcy twice), Ray Caruth (once he gets out for murdering his wife), etc. Perfect company for a man of Vick’s “reputation.”
By Devin
July 26, 2007 7:55 PM | Link to this
Seriously Terrence…you have every right to have your own personal belief about Vick’s innocence or guilt…But what I can’t fathom is how you consistently blow up or misreport Vick’s previous allegations
The Herpes thing—- It was a civil case…why exactly does he need to make a statement about it. Assuming he has herpes, why would ANYONE come out and say they do
The water bottle- Vick stated that bottle was for jewelry. He did not remain silent on that issue. Whether you choose to believe him or not is your business, but to use that incident as evidence of his bad character is baseless as he was FULLY EXONERATED and never even charged in the incident.
And the Shooting the Bird—Incident…Mistake me if I’m wrong,but did Vick not IMMEDIATELY apologize for his actions in that incident….before teh media even started blowingthat incident out of proportion. How come noone ever brings up Jake Plummer shooting the bird at people as a point of reference?!?!?!?
I’m glad the AJC is available free online, because I wil never ever spend my hard earned money reading that filth……Unless I run out of toilet paper that is.
By John
July 26, 2007 7:56 PM | Link to this
I do believe Terrence said that. You may want to reread the article.
By Leandre
July 26, 2007 7:57 PM | Link to this
Go get the story Terrence… he does have to speak to us. His damm career is on the line. If you were a good reproter you should be able to get the inside story. You looked clueless on ESPN to other night.
Go get the story !!!
Did someone on the falcons kill a dog the other month
By william
July 26, 2007 7:58 PM | Link to this
Um, Jimmy? Just…shut. . up!
By Daniel
July 26, 2007 7:58 PM | Link to this
Haha!! Its funny that you as a reporter have already found him guilty, these are alligations,But as a new reporter you jump too conclusion to help sell your little new paper!! Michael vick dont have too answer to you or anybody in atlanta! he has been accused of something and he has every right as american to defend himself!
Why dont you go report on Iraq or all the soliders that have died this month,why dont you write how are president is killing are country!!
At the end of the day, those opinions are yours and yours alone, but what will you say when Vick gets found NOt guilty? i dont care if he is or isnt,but what bothers me so much is that everyone feels like michael owns them something,which he dont!!
By Lucius
July 26, 2007 7:59 PM | Link to this
Terence, just what we expected you to say…whatever negative you could to please the fake dog lovers. Every person appearing in court on charges have to sign documents. You seem like the kind of guy that loved the dogs that attacked innocent women, children and babies in the civil rights era. I’d love to see you agree with paid snitches, paid informants and paid protesters that lie about you. Of course, Black people don’t deserve due process. Keep hating. That’s the way to keep your job! Blacks that know their history have different feelings about non-Blacks wth dogs.
By Brian
July 26, 2007 7:59 PM | Link to this
Somebody needs to proof-read Vick’s comments in the future, His teammates are not in SPRING training. And Jimmy you might want to get your middle school teacher to proof-read yours too for writing such a stupid response to Terrance’s article, good luck in the 8th grade…..again!
By LJ
July 26, 2007 8:01 PM | Link to this
Right on Terence. tell it like it is. It’s not a case of Black or White. It’s a case of Right or Wrong. Jimmy probably supports OJ too. Wake up Jimmy.
By sistasoulja
July 26, 2007 8:03 PM | Link to this
Terence Moore, you are reaching here, son. The color of his shirt? This is RIDICULOUS!!! You are just mad because Vick didn’t give you anything that could be picked apart and criticized, word for word. Even if he had something to say, you would’ve found something wrong with it. Hang it up, man. How long did it take you all to search through that video clip until you captured what appeared to be a smirk on Vick’s face. I’m talking about the picture that was on the homepage. If Vick’s so awful, why the spin? Can the AJC PUH-LEASE find something newsworthy to write about? Didn’t a 9 year old girl get killed in the ATL yesterday? Now that’s newsworthy. You and PETA should take all the time you are putting into running Vick’s name into the ground into doing something worthwhile, like helping somebody.
By Brian
July 26, 2007 8:06 PM | Link to this
Please remember…Michael Vick is innocent until he opens his mouth and removes all reasonable doubt!
By Clintom Jackson
July 26, 2007 8:09 PM | Link to this
I am a life time falcon fan.I watch the team form at Cheney stadium when i was a kid.I agree that this was a time that Mike Vick cannot remaim silent.I was holding my opinion until I hear Mike speak and announce his innocent.This did not happen.I will still rely on the system of justice,but this left me with reservations.
By Mr. Gilley
July 26, 2007 8:13 PM | Link to this
People are going to criticize Vick regardless and the PR people know how the press is so they represent VIck and speak on his behalf. I mean really what was he suppose 2 say..You and everyone else said he was guilty from the start….So stay silent..He has that right!!!
By Ready 4 sum Football
July 26, 2007 8:16 PM | Link to this
Terrence,
This indeed was a sad day. Dozens of people gathered around to see the spectacle of Mike Vick, the fallen superstar. Let’s continue to kick him while he’s down shall we. It’s time for this town to heal in the worst way.
A little girl was killed the other day by a stray bullet, yet no one pickets to raise attention to find her killer. No one causes a stir for gun control.
Everyone, including you, uses Michael Vick to advance their cause or career. If Vick is guilty, he’ll get his in the worst way, but if he is the sinner, is it our job to throw stones so vehemently?
By Michael
July 26, 2007 8:19 PM | Link to this
May the court come to order..! ” Um yes…your honor….I plead not guilty! Even though the home I own is loaded with dead dogs, and drugs and blood and dog fighting equipment, and etc…etc..! I am uhunderd percent NOT GUILTY of this crime!! You see your honor, just because I also had a website that taught people how to raise them fightin dogs further proves that I am NOT GUILTY! You see, all I did was wire money for the house and I NEVER stepped foot on the property. Don’t even know the color of the carpet inside the house. Why this a disgrace! I Ron Mexi…er Michael Vick plead total STUPIDITY your Honor!” All you dreamers just keep your heads in the sand…! Good article Mr. Moore. Most people with half a brain know the truth. But as long as there’s a lie there will always be dopes to believe them. LOL
By ry
July 26, 2007 8:19 PM | Link to this
Hey Tyger and Jimmy,
To you and rest of the PREDICTABLE COWARDS. I am willing to bet that Mr. Moore is sitting somewhere laughing his head off. You numbskulls REACT to everything he throws at you. You know arrogant educated black men get a TOTAL KICK out of provoking anger in you cowards with your big tough Dell computer. KEEP MAKING OUR DAY.
By Parkwooddawg
July 26, 2007 8:20 PM | Link to this
I really don’t think that Vick is capable of muttering an intelligent thought on this subject. It appears he is waiting for what has always come so easily to him, a helping hand from someone naive enough to feel they were making a difference in this young man’s life. This man Vick is a sociopath. He is so far removed from reality it is almost sad to look into his life and see how empty it really is.
By Falcon Fan
July 27, 2007 10:56 AM | Link to this
What does his clothes have to do with it? I thought that he was well dressed.
That was a DUMB statement.
By Bill
July 27, 2007 11:01 AM | Link to this
Thanks for the comments “TOM” Moore. What dirty secrets are under your rock?
By Eddie
July 27, 2007 11:03 AM | Link to this
Criminal defendants don’t generally address the media. We all know you hate Vick, but do a little research and use your brain. This article is completely moronic.
By lawnman
July 27, 2007 11:05 AM | Link to this
In regards to your comments Mr. Moore, I think Vick is doing exactly what he should be doing which is Defending Himself. It doesn’t matter if you want him to make a statement to the media and the world. All that matters is that he has been indicted by the federal government and he is going to trial to defend himself. His lawyers are being well paid to speak on his behalf. The negativity that has been drawn to this case is outrageous and for a person in the media like yourself to enhance the negativity is the typical and the norm of the media. It’s just ashame that it’s coming from a black man as yourself with no just cause for your actions.
You are just like the typical sell-out brotha. Let the justice system play out and then come back apologetic to Vick for convicting him in public opinion without having heard all the facts.
By Brownthrasher
July 27, 2007 11:06 AM | Link to this
Terrence, this is really the only way to get anyone to read your columns is to incite anger. I’ve seen you at church a few times. You really are not as evil as you want people to think. You’re just making your living the way Vick wants to make his living - doing a job. I just laugh when I read anything you write. You have always been negative. Do your thing, man. Whatever!
By THE MAN Who is Keeping U Down, Yo!
July 27, 2007 11:06 AM | Link to this
Michael Vick:
Unable to Read NFL Defenses
Unable to Read NFL Offensive Playbooks
Unable to Read Airport Signs with Pictures
Unable to Obey the “White Man’s” Law
Unable to Give a Even a Prepared Statement with saying,…You Know, “You Know..” REPEATEDLY
Michael Vick: Unfit for Pro Football, Unfit for Georgia
By Rubennia
July 27, 2007 11:15 AM | Link to this
TM, You have never been an Atlanta Fan and definitely not a Falcons Fan. As a die hard fan I would like to say that everyone needs to let the system work. If I hired the calibre of lawyers as Vick has, I would not speak for myself either. To speak would only give the anti-Vick people more ammunition to attack. I support my Falcons and pray for Vick. Question, Why has the cousin who started the whole investigation not been mentioned in the inditment?
By Andy
July 27, 2007 11:15 AM | Link to this
Vick is a weak little man both on and off the field.
By JamesD
July 27, 2007 11:17 AM | Link to this
Shawn
This is not something we all go through. Some of us have brains, goals and are proud people. We all did not get charged with killing and fighting dogs. Even if he’s not guilty you don’t associate with the crowd he does. Ignorant
By TONY
July 27, 2007 11:17 AM | Link to this
please , mr. moore you sound like a real idiot
By TLW
July 27, 2007 11:18 AM | Link to this
He is already trying to look sympathetic with the Mother thing going on. I don’t buy it. From what I understand, lots of mothers know what’s going on. Their culture does not see anything wrong with it. Reports saying parents and grandparents bring their children to these dog fights. How disgusting.
By BAW
July 27, 2007 11:18 AM | Link to this
Parkwooddawg, you are an idiot. Did you find some dead dogs in any yard. Do you know what a dead dog look like. You should learn how not to speak until you have touch and seen something to speak about when it comes to other people. Or when you are asked to say something. Asked your parents how many dogs they might have buried.
By mike
July 27, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this
think o j. he may be guilty but if the glove don’t fit you must aquit.
By Anti-Shawn
July 27, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this
RE: ” He’s a young man and learning just like the rest of us everyday.” - Shawn, Future GED Recipient*
Shawn, I don’t know about you, but where I come from (Georgia), 21 years old (to say nothing of 26-27 years of age) is PLENTY OLD ENOUGH to know to NOT kill dogs after fighting them for gambling in a house full of drugs when I am a public figure worth million$.
When you have the SAME public education opportunities as EVERY OTHER AMERICAN CITIZEN OF EVERY RACE, how can one STILL be so dumb ??????
Chew on that, “Sucka.”
By Witness #1
July 27, 2007 11:21 AM | Link to this
JUST TO SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT:
MICHAEL VICK SHOT THE BIRD AT A SAINTS FAN.
I WAS STANDING RIGHT NEXT TO THE GUY AND IT WAS A SAINTS FAN!!!
PEOPLE WHO THINK MICHAEL VICK WAS SHOOTING A BIRD AT THE ATLANTA FANS HAVE IT WRONG.
Because it was in the Georgia Dome everyone assumes it was Atlanta fans.
That’s like saying everyone from Athens is ignorant. Close assumption but not true.
ROLL TIDE!!!!
By Youra
July 27, 2007 11:23 AM | Link to this
You had a slew of television cameras and notebook pads representing media outlets from various parts of the western hemisphere.
You had a bunch of losers who have to base the activites in their lives on the fortunes and misfortunes of others.
Whether I support him or not, I’m glad he didn’t say anything. The media has gone crazy. Talk about a lack of respect and accountability.
Sounds like Terence just feels stood-up.
Please.
By fed up
July 27, 2007 11:23 AM | Link to this
This whole thing is crazy. Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty. This is typical USA!!! People are acting like these are allegations against people. Pit Bulls were never meant to be domesticated. They are breed to kill and attack. By the way, everyone wants to jump on Vick’s case and have forgotten about Patrick Kearney. All this labeling of Vick as a thug is just another way to use the n word by you know who!!!!!!!!!!!!
By HILL
July 27, 2007 11:24 AM | Link to this
why cant everybody just leave this situtaion alone? yes he is our satr player, and represents our city which he has done well over that past years. What you need to do is pay more attention to ISSUES THAT REALLY MATTER!! LIKE….THE WAR, DUMB PRESIDENT BUSH, GANG AND GUN VIOLENCE THAT KILLS THOUSANDS EVERYDAY! I AM 19 AND YES I LOVE DOGS BUT HAVING A BROTHER TO BE MAULDED 2 DEATH BY A NEIGHBORHOOD DOG HAS NOT CAUSED HATE TOWARDS THEM…U TELL ME THE LAST TIME U SEEN A DOG GET ARRESTED FOR KILLIN A CHILD OR GIVEN ANOTHER A DISEASE FROM A BITE U TELL ME DOGS CAN BE EVIL TO!!!!!! I HOPE U ALL CAN PUT ALL YOUR ANGER TOWARDS SOMETHING THAT REALLY MATTERS IN OUR SOCIETY 2 DAY.
By Nikki
July 27, 2007 11:27 AM | Link to this
Everyone keeps saying that this wouldn’t be a big deal if Vick weren’t so famous. They’re absolutely right! Dogfighting is always wrong, but when you take that and link it to someone children admire and look up to, that makes it even worse. Like it or not, sports figures unfortunately become role models for children. If you don’t want that burden, do something else for a living!
By Deb
July 27, 2007 11:28 AM | Link to this
Atlanta has the most fair weathered people on earth! Why didn’t Vick speak? He did. He said he was innocent. If he had said anything else, the media, including this paper would have ripped his words to shreds. Michael Vick is a human being subject to doing stupid things just like every other human being on this earth. The people who decide to sit high and look low are the ones whose stupidity has escaped relatively unknown or overlooked. That’s why they feel that they can cast a judgmental eye at others. Let’s start with PETA. Where are these animal lovers when pit bulls tear human beings to shreds, sometimes killing them? And please, no one needs to write and say that these dogs are raised or provoked to do this because these same dogs have been known to kill infants. I’m not an advocate of dog fighting or any kind of fighting, but the truth is the truth. That comment by the person who said that he’ll have some blacks on the jury and will be acquitted. Buddy, you had better look at the grievous history of all male white juries in the Jim Crow south and all white juries even NOW before you open your slit for a mouth again. It’s my sincere hope that Michael Vick is exonerated, continues to play football for another team, and play so well that he takes them to the superbowl every year that he plays for the team and WIN EACH TIME!! GO VICK!!!!!
By Kady
July 27, 2007 11:30 AM | Link to this
Mr. Vick should be allowed due process and the ability no matter what the outcome to rehabilitate and earn a living in what ever manner is best for him and his family. However, when you are making the money he is making, he and every other athlete needs to grow up, cut ties with his “crew”, travel in decent clothes….look like you are about something…..and educate yourself, money can only buy you trouble unless you know who you are….not what you do…..My predicition is he will cop a plea to a lesser charge, tons of community service, huge fine and of course have to go to a shrink…..and he will be back……
By Susan
July 27, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this
At least he wore a suit. When he first came to Atlanta he had to go to court in Clayton County for a traffic violation. He appeared before the judge wearing sweatpants! I lost all respect for him at that time.
susan
By Steve
July 27, 2007 11:33 AM | Link to this
For the love of God, I wish Vick was white so we wouldn’t have to drag up the race issue. I’ll agree on the whole, blacks get the short end of the stick overall in legal matters - thats basically a proven fact.
It’s so disgusting that this writer is getting called out b/c he is not “backing someone of his own race”. I’ll apologize for him for objective reporting, and not bringing race into his thinking.
With the preponderance of evidence, anyone would know that Vick either a) knew about and therefore condoned the fighting (c’mon, it was on his property) b) actively participated and funded it or worse c) was present and/or participated in electrocuting, hanging, drowning, or beating dogs to death. Can anyone really dispute that none of the above happened???
Sure “innocent until proven guilty”…but some things (ala OJ, Robert Blake) people just know better.
EVEN IF Vick is “innocent”…in the very least, THESE THINGS HAPPENED AT HIS RESIDENCE. He cannot simply plead ignorance that “I didn’t know it was happening the same as i can’t use that excuse when pulled over for speeding.
By Susan S. - Hater of ALL Racist Pigs ( Including Those Who STILL Blindly Support Vick )
July 27, 2007 11:34 AM | Link to this
After making the mistake of going to FALCONS Training Camp yesterday and seeing first-hand the rudeness, obscenity, vulgarity, seething anger, stupidity, racism, blind rage, disrespect for police officers and security personnel, obnoxious behavior, COMPLETE lack of consideration for other fans and the almost-constant heckling of Joey Harrington just for the color of his skin by the several of the VICK SUPPORTERS, I am beginning to wonder if the KKK, an organization I have always hated, despised and even pitied, may have at least some validity to certain parts of their platform.
The VICK SUPPORTERS with whom I shared oxygen yesterday at practice are NO DIFFERENT THAN the KKK. What hypocrites!
Dear God, Please Help Us All.
( Not that it really matters, I am a 36-year-old Hispanic female. )
By Pat
July 27, 2007 11:34 AM | Link to this
Why is it when blacks do wrong, other blacks defend them no matter what? Whites will be the first to say when another white does wrong, you donot defend them. This has to be some mentality of public education,or either you have no morals.
Like O.J. he didn’t kill his wife or her friend.No matter what you will deny that too.
By KB
July 27, 2007 11:35 AM | Link to this
You can see where this is going. Thanks Terence you’ve pleased your white bosses enough now go talk about some real news like the referee in the NBA fixing games oh I forgot he’s white and in the mob so no press coverage for that story.
By Shari
July 27, 2007 11:35 AM | Link to this
Good article, Terence! I especially agree with the number of chances Vick has been given to “get it right” and he still can’t figure it out. He’s too dumb to say anything intelligent, which is probably why his lawyers were thinking “Don’t let Mike speak and further incriminate himself and prove to the public what an idiot he is.” For all you die hard Vick lovers-and I don’t care if you’re black, white green or purple-GET A LIFE!! Innocent till proven guilty….translation….damn, I hope his lawyers can get him out of this one! Look at his track record. And, the Feds don’t go after someone and present an indictment unless there is substantial evidence. “Hi, I’m Michael Vick. I have been breeding pit bulls for years, have a kennel named Bad Newz, my property has 50+ pit bulls on it, all this fighting equipment around, and Duh, I didn’t know nothin bout this.” Yeah, right, loser!!
By cld
July 27, 2007 11:36 AM | Link to this
This has nothing to do with whether he is black or white! Several of the people who have written in want to go back and talk about Black History, well if this is what anyone needs to promote their history what a sad state of our heritage. People break the law everyday, and are innocent until proven guilty….but in my mind he is guitlty of more than breaking a law, he has broken a morale law.
By cecile haydel
July 27, 2007 11:37 AM | Link to this
Thank you Mr. Moore!!!! Amen!!!
By 95% Fed Conviction Rate
July 27, 2007 11:39 AM | Link to this
Did anyone even notice the federal conviction rate? it’s 95%!!! They don’t move forward on a case unless they have the evidence, so he is going to get some time. The IRS charges alone will get him for all the unreported income from the dogfighting. It’s just a shame that all that talent is going to be wasted on the jail house chess team.
By Gwen
July 27, 2007 11:41 AM | Link to this
Mr. Vick doesn’t have to say a word; he has paid millions to some very high profile lawyers to run their mouths for him.
Please think of something else to write about. I personally am tired of hearing about Vick.
By Cash Rulz
July 27, 2007 11:42 AM | Link to this
Right now the only thing we know is that a house that was under his name that he let relatives stay at was used for an illegal purpose. THIS DOES NOT MEAN VICK DID ANYTHING!!! If they had so much investigated in this situation they would’ve had video of Vick in there. If one of their “undercovers” had seen Vick, I’m positive that he would’ve somehow got a video camera in there to tape it. So until the verdict comes back, Vick did not RUN a dog fighting ring.
You hypocritical closet racists need to be devoting your attention to the little white girls who carjack people and drive drunk potentialling killing others. Where’s MADD when its a little white girl doing the wrong doing?
By Vick Fan
July 27, 2007 11:44 AM | Link to this
I think Vick did the right thing by not speaking because the world already has him guilty and ready to be tarred and feathered so him speaking really would not have mattered.
By Robin Crescent
July 27, 2007 11:45 AM | Link to this
Terrance, once this dies down and you have no more meat to devour, you will have to crawl back into your hole and figure what else to do with your self-given talent. Your lead statement and other comments only dictate your follow-the-lead approach to punce on what’s popular at the moment. You use a lot of ink to say absolutely “nothing”. It is a shame such space is waisted. And as far as his “mother’s” red outfit, she happen to look dam good in it!
By genesis
July 27, 2007 11:46 AM | Link to this
Mike Vick must be your paltform for promotion. I will wait to hear bothsides. It’s difficult to listen to the opinion from a city that only has one paper the AJC and you only get that one AJC opinion, unlike other major cities ex. NYC you have the daily news ,post exc. Judas how can you turn on your own peopele. Sounds to me you wanna be like Mike. I haven’t seen this much uproar on child abused and murdered children.
Genesis
By Tyger
July 27, 2007 11:47 AM | Link to this
Terrence is a MORON
By T.C
July 27, 2007 11:51 AM | Link to this
terence moore i wish you would shut up, 1st of all ajc got you responding on this m.vick event because you are black and it wont look racist coming from you.your working overtime writing negtivity so you wont look stupid when the outcome is not guilty.were did you come from anyway.
By rjg
July 27, 2007 11:52 AM | Link to this
On yesterday I witnessed all the events centered around the Michael Vick indictment, from the local news cast to your report on ESPN of the days events. This world seems to revolve around what the media says or what they portray to be true. Nobody knows exactly what happened in regards to the dogfighting situation in which Mr. Vick and his friends are being accused of. Until we know exactly what happened let’s not place either person on a innocent or guilty platform. Your report on ESPN yesterday in regards to the way Mr. Vick’s demeanor was, stating that ” I could’nt tell whether he just had a game against the NO Saints and if they won or loss,doesnt he know he could be facing a 5 or 6 year prison term”, referencing that he didnt show any emotion was viewed in my eye as trying to push the guilty platform on Mr. Vick. It could have been that Mr. Vick was confident in that he was not guilty of the accusations and felt that he was secure with what his defense team planned and maybe his faith in God. Even the local news affiliate (Fox 5’s Art Franklin) addressed his demeanor as being “serious” and ready to take on the task at hand. I am not a dog lover or dog hater, however I do love life and the people in it. If these accusations are true against all involved then punishment should be given. But until that time lets allow the courts to decide the fate of these individuals and stop allowing your own personal feelings about this issue to be portrayed in your reports.
By Loreal D.
July 27, 2007 11:53 AM | Link to this
Sorry everyone, but I dont believe he’s innocent. Maybe not guilty, but DEFINITELY not innocent.
I mean come on! How can you NOT know what’s going on in your own home. You may not live there, but you do visit the property. Also, how does his cousin non-working cousin get $20,000 to place on a bet? And more importantly, did you SERIOUSLY not know there is blood all over your freakin basement? It must have stunk something BAD down there.
I love the Falcons with all my heart and I think Vick has a hell of an arm and great speed, but I just dont think he’s not guilty of knowing.
By Malik
July 27, 2007 11:53 AM | Link to this
It doesn’t matter if he spoke or not…Terrence and the majority of the world has already concluded that he is guilty. By him speaking that would only give people more reason to talk about something negative…He did the right thing, signing papers or not.
By VickSupporter
July 27, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this
Terence Moore - you gave your opinion and we all should look at it as just that. It’s sad that the AJC lets you air stupidity here. I shouldn’t even waste my time commenting, but it seems you’ve just gone overboard in your feelings on Vick. You should tip on over in the water with the boat. There are those of us who feel that the Vick is innocent until proven guilty. He’s made mistakes - we all have. Let the man be tried in the justice system and not by entertainment-seeking jerks like you. God Bless you Mike.
By tim
July 27, 2007 11:54 AM | Link to this
terence moore you really are an idiot.until you print an apology to mike vick i will not buy another issue of the ajc.i would expect this from the average atlanta joe whos oppinion doesnt affect anyone but for you to print this in your colume just to get people to read it every day is simply wrong.youre less of writer,falcon fan,and a black man.malcom x is turning in his grave
By JB
July 27, 2007 11:57 AM | Link to this
Mr. Moore, You will eat your words!!!!! Don’t hate on a brother too bad. Are you really a brother?
By Rosa
July 27, 2007 11:57 AM | Link to this
Mr. Moore - I applaud your disdain with Vick. My g-grandson has been disappointed with many high-paid athletic men doing outrageous things. He told me movie-stars, athletes and politicians appear to think they are so loved and above the law, that he doubts the ‘man on the street’ could ever get the fair shakes those folks seem to get.
Out of the mouths of teens, huh?
By LMG
July 27, 2007 11:58 AM | Link to this
Before I began, I am a woman that loves sports. Absolutely! I read the sports daily and also view ESPN. As I began to read this article, I really really was kind of disturbed. Everyone has their own opinion(s)about what has happened, what is going to happen and the final outcome. Mr. Moore, I don’t know if it is or was your intension to anger people with your comments. I decided not to get angry. He who angers you, controls you. If that was your intension(s), you sure did a good job - and you have controlled a few today. Saying all this, (yes, I know that we woman can talk too much sometime -smile fellas)But, regardless of all the accusations, the 18 pages, the “color” of his suit etc. The man is innocent until proven guilty. Mr. Moore, I know that it is not about you, it is not about me - but I must leave you with this - “He who has no sin, let him cast the first stone”. I know I can’t even throw a pebble. What about you? Be very careful of judgement. There are measurements to it. I love reading how fired up you guys have become. Calm down fellas, calm down.
By Ed
July 27, 2007 11:58 AM | Link to this
You are an idiot! Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty, you just like every journalist and protestor has played judge and jury and said this young man is guilty. Sorry that we are not all as holy as you and can pass judgement on everyone. Why is the water bottle incident brought up in your insane article, they took his bottle tested it and clearly stated their was no marijuana in the thing. I now realize why I never read your insane opinionated articles.
By JackP
July 27, 2007 11:58 AM | Link to this
Terence: You hit a homerun again with this column. I enjoy your columns even when I do not agree with you. Keep up the good work.
By davenport
July 27, 2007 12:01 PM | Link to this
LET THE JURY FIND VICK GUILTY OR INNOCENT NOT THE PUBLIC. THE LAW STATES THAT YOU ARE INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY. I WILL FOREVER BE A MIKE VICK FAN AND I WILL CONTINUE TO PURCHASE MY SEASON PASSES AS LONG AS HE IS A DIRTY BIRD!!
SIGN MIKE VICK FAN
By iluvmccann
July 27, 2007 12:01 PM | Link to this
I watched Mr. Moore on ESPN and was completely appalled with what he said. NOTHING he said had any substance. What in h* does the color of his mother’s dress have to do with anything???? What does the fact that he was calm have to do with anything?? What did you expect, for him to walk in crying and weeping and falling out on the courtroom floor? Of course not.But somehow that is held against him. And of course, YOU, Mr. Moore keep flanning the racial flames. It took exactly 3 sentences for you bring up the “racial divide” in Atlanta. I have not heard ONE interview or ONE article written that you did not throw that same line and same “statistic” that you keep quoting in there. It had not one DN thing to do with the interview but somehow you slip it in.This is not a racial issue. Yes, there are a few idiots out there that may feel that way but the majority of the wonderful people we have in this city does not. LET IT GO!!!!!! Talk about the facts, not your misguided views that is somehow getting you on TV. Why the AJC allows you to continue this disgusting and race-baiting journalism is incomprehesible to me. One more thing, please tell me how the color of his suit is important to his guilt or innocence??
By Ole Man Bourbon
July 27, 2007 12:03 PM | Link to this
What color is the sky? It obviously cannot be blue, because a courtroom has yet to rule that it is. Right?
Vick has his fingerprints all over this business, and he has put the entire franchise in jeopardy with his persistent irresponsibility and outright stupidity.
If you think Vick cares about you, you are a fool.
By Ms. P
July 27, 2007 12:06 PM | Link to this
You sure are ignorant. I say the next protest is to get Mr. Moore out of Atlanta! I sure hope no one does no back ground check on you…
By Steve J
July 27, 2007 12:07 PM | Link to this
What I find to be the most disturbing thing is the double-standards of our society in matters like this. We live in the same society that supports boxing and extreme fighting where 2 humans pummel each other until someone is either knocked unconscience, can no longer stand or is beaten beyond recognition. If a fight ends too soon and we didnt get to see someone get beaten long enough we cry afoul and want our money back because thats not what we paid to see. We want blood!! We are the same people who loveto attend dog races where they muzzle the dogs, put them in cages and make run around a track for our amusement and financial gain. When they are no longer fast enough they are discarded of. Maybe not euthanized the way Vick and Co. are accused of doing but do we REALLY know what went on and how the dogs were killed other than the stories of the killers themselves. We also attend horse races where jockeys slap the living daylights out of the horse to get him to run faster, once again for our amusement and financial pleasure. We as a society love sports that if looked at in the right light could be construed as inhumane. They should be punished for the way the dogs were killed but not for the actual act of fighting them. But then again arent we the same species that hides in trees in camouflage clothing and shoot deer,elk and anything else that roams around. You pit bulls haters out there should do a little google search on the breed and not be so quick to judge. Pit bulls like most dogs can be trained mosnsters but they can be trained to be loving as well. Hell, Petey from the Little Rascals was a pitbull.
By Scrappy
July 27, 2007 12:12 PM | Link to this
Cash Rulz - He is the owner of the property used for illegal purposes, which means is he ultimately responsible. YES, THIS MEANS HE IS GUILTY. He may not have done anything else, but by being the owner he is responsible. Perhaps he should have sold the house to his cousin for a dollar, then he would not be the owner and then not be responsible.
By dirtydogbird
July 27, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this
Just YU^%$!!!!! How can some people defend Vick at all cost Jimmy. if it wasn’t the water bottle, stolen watch, flipin bird, dead dogs, it will be something else. This idiot is doomed only by himself. If it walks like a fool, talks like a fool, $130 mill will not change a fool. Vick has 75% of blacks fooled, 50% of whites,and Arthur Blank fooled 100%…
Vick knew dog fighting was illegal. If not, why didn’t he promote the fights and have a sham dog kennel as a front?
Football fans never surprise me with the win at all cost. That is why college’s graduate dumb jocks. Rape, murder, DUI, it doesn’t matter, just win a superbowl or national championship baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
By the way, if the Falcons win the Superbowl without Vick this year, nobody is gonna care what happens to Mick Vick and Vick is tooooo dumb to realize that.
By Only in America
July 27, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this
Not calling any names, but another Falcon player was recently charged with Animal cruelty.(Animal Murder) For Killing his Girlfriends Puppy with his Bare hands. ( Or was this something that I just Heard)Strange no News stories and Protest, Federal Indictments, Suspensions,Canceled Endorsements about this but then again he wasn’t Vick. I overheard a Conversation at Dinner last night, That Blacks still shouldn’t be allowed to even play QB. Which got me to thinking about this in a whole new light. Vick was possibly on his way to becoming one of the best QB’s of all times. Now do you really think America is ready to accept the possibility of a Black Man being the best QB in NFL history. After hearing last nights conversation. I THINK NOT. Lets go back in time just a bit if we can 1965 not that long ago. Where was Americas OUTRAGE when speaking of MEAN, VICIOUS ATTACK DOGS, were being turned loose on Citizens of this Country by Govt, Officials. Oh how Stupid of me to ask such a Question, That was way back then. And besides the High Pressure Fire Hoses would wash away the Blood from all the DOG Bites. Is Vick the one and Only person to be involved (Alledgedly) in this type of
Unacceptable Sport. I think not, but he is Mike Vick and Mike Vick is Young, Black, and Rich. And in this Country that’s enough to to find you GUILTY as CHARGED. This Blog is not about Individual Racism. It’s about a Raciest System, And those who will Deny this are still simply that in Denial. I WILL SUPPORT MICHAEL VICK UNTIL MV IS FOUND AND PROVEN BEYOND THE SHADOW OF A DOUBT GUILTY. If it were you in his Cleats I think you would only ask the same. BEYOND THE SHADOW OF A DOUBT, THAT IS WHAT THE LAW SAYS. But Justice and just them comes from two different set of Law books. MR. Moore you are a JOKE.
By Keeping It Real
July 27, 2007 12:18 PM | Link to this
Terrance Moore why did you quote a question to “Where was Vick” didn’t you say he was signing papers? Well then Mr. Smart guy you answered the question you asked? Duh… While you are trying to make Vick look so bad even with the nice dark suit and blue shirt he had on ROCKING IT WELL don’t player hate on him with his nice attire just because you have gotten caught up with wearing the white collar shirt when you appear in court. Some of us do have our own style where we don’t have to follow the leader as you stated in so many words, now we see how you became a reporter, but you are not making AJC look very well.
By caz
July 27, 2007 12:21 PM | Link to this
I agree Mike vick should get his day in court. But i think each and everyone should and probably has a opinion on mr. vicks guilt or innocence. Is that bad,I don’t think so. It’s human nature. I hope in my heart of hearts that he is innocent.But I can’t get out of my head,how could he not know what was going on at that house. Even if he only went there a few times over last year,the equipment was throughout the house and backyard. common sense tells me if nothing else,he’s guilty of not doing anything to stop what was going on at the house.No matter what,he is responsible for what occurs at HIS house. All I ask is for him to take responsibilty for his actions, just like I would ask of anyone.
By Tommy
July 27, 2007 12:23 PM | Link to this
Well written article. It is unfortunate that a young man with his talents apparently has “thrown it away”!
By Cheau
July 27, 2007 12:27 PM | Link to this
Mr. Moore, I hope your day never comes while I am around.
By RamblinLonghorn
July 27, 2007 12:29 PM | Link to this
I find it hilarious how Vick supporters will bash a reporter who is reporting on things that Vick could be doing to Improve his image. At no point did I read Moore say that Vick was guilty.
As for his reputation. You know what? Mike Vick has profited to the tune of tens of millions of dollars because of his reputation. If he’s not willing to accept the public opinion, he can gladly give up the money and the fame associated with it.
By ga_tech_92
July 27, 2007 12:30 PM | Link to this
Is everyone who is found guilty in court really guilty? Is everyone who is found innocent in court really innocent? The court will mean very little. Common sense…patterns…and his consistently bad character mean everything…we need someone with class to be the face of our franchise. Let’s pray Mr.Dunn is back and full speed sometime soon. That is a man of high character we can all be proud of! Winning games at the cost of loosing your soul to a low character person such as Vick is like making a deal with the Devil. Have some class people. Support Dunn…Sack Vick!!
By DKB
July 27, 2007 12:31 PM | Link to this
Regardless of anyone’s opinion of Mr. Moore, Michael Vick has been on the downhill slide since day one with the NFL. This is another example of a young person getting too much too soon. His head got big and he came to think that the rules don’t apply to him. It’s so sad to see so many young celebrities in such horrible situations. To crash and burn so early in life. All you can hope is that they learn from their hard lessons.
By E
July 27, 2007 12:36 PM | Link to this
Terence,
I will say this, YOU get it don’t you! You are doing exactly what you are suppose to do, with no shame. I have not respect for people like you who really could care less about the big picture. What this man is experiencing at this time, does not fit the crime.
What I don’t understand is, the world considers pro athletes as role models, but has sympathy for these slutty, drug attic girls who continue to get in trouble day after day. month after month. Help me understand. Are they not considered role models, their actions are setting examples for our young women as well, but again, the pitty party comes out for them.
With all that is going on, dirty referees in basketball, baseball player getting pulled over for DUI and start fighting with the police in Florida and pitching the next day. A pro wrestler killed his family and himself on steroids.
Are you serious? This is the story you choose to stay on.
Keep on doing what is expected of you, just pray that they never come after you one day. Common sense will not help you either.
YOU ARE A JOKE!!
By caz
July 27, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this
What Mike could’ve done was NOT associate himself with the people he has. Oh Yeah,the American way, if things don’t go your way blame someone else or sue!!! How pathetic!!!
By Shawn
July 27, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this
To James D and Anti-shawn you both are obviously very ignorant individuals and I will pray for you both just as I will for Vick. We all go through things in life and all make bad decisions. Learn from the mistakes and keep it moving. It’s easy to throw stone’s and make bad comments about others, ask Terence Moore. But later for the hate. I will continue to support Mike and assist in lifting his spirit up in the mist of all of you haters….
By T
July 27, 2007 12:40 PM | Link to this
I have read some very interetsing commentary this afternoon and am glad that other people are able to see through the hypocrisy and slander. Terrence Moore wants to portray that he has it all figured out about Vick and this case. Maybe you’re a store front lawyer like your column tends to make me believe that you may also be a store front journalist.
Nonetheless, this situation is all about making statements. Every critic is representing some agenda. You have segments of fans that are still upset about the way the Falcons dismissed Chandler for Vick, you have PETA realizing this is the biggest forum for their Neo-Nazi tactics, Goddell is continuing to advance his judge, jury, executioner platform and you have critics who have nothing better to do than follow sensationalism. To all, get a life or perhaps start making sure that you’ve removed all the dog bones (skeletons) from your closets. The madness has to stop.
Terrence, you’re obviously an older and more polished professional than Vick, but trust, you got there by making a few poor decisions, mistakes or down right blunders that you have managed to keep private. My question is, where have you and others been to assist in mentoring to Vick or any young Black male for that matter?
Moore along with all the critics find it easier to point out what Vick should have done and known. Vick was created and upheld by this society and now just like a beaten dog, this society finds it easier to extinguish his life rather than assist in healing and teaching. Pit bulls are bred and fed to be gladiators just like atheletes such as Vick. Its cruel and unfair that both have been valued, fostered, upheld and then ultimately destroyed when they serve no further utility.
By HEM1NOW
July 27, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this
Do any one of you guys and gals remember the guy that was released from prison after 20yrs earlier this year? I do and that’s what can happen to any one of us if we keep judging each other without knowing all of the facts. I love the Falcons and I’m willing to wait until all of the facts are presented before I incriminate Micheal Vick.
By Enuff
July 27, 2007 12:41 PM | Link to this
Come on Terrance:
Enough is enough—-our children are being killed sitting at their computers and hardly making the news. Why dont you get out in the community and do something worthwhile?
By Jnew
July 27, 2007 12:48 PM | Link to this
I loved your article. It is also what everyone else was talking about on 790am today. Good job for calling like it is. Truth hurts for.
By BWood
July 27, 2007 12:49 PM | Link to this
Has everyone forgot how Vick brought this city together when he came? I have been a Falcons fan ALL my life but have never felt proud to be a Falcon fan until Vick came here. Atlanta needs to protect their own and give him the rights that anyone bashing him would want for their own mother, father, sister or son. None of us were there, none of us can testify against him, so why are we so quick to forsake him. Where would this city be if it wasn’t for Vick? As a season ticket holder, Vick has earned respect from me ON THE FIELD. As for his personal life, I have never hung out with him, I just pray he is innocent so we can get back to the business of the Superbowl. Vick deserves more from us(his real fans) than he is getting. GO VICK!!!!!!
I just hope the judgemental people in the world never have to go through something similar. Its funny how your perspective changes when you are the one getting booed for something you have said you are innocent to.
By Jack
July 27, 2007 12:51 PM | Link to this
Have you heard Michael speak in the past? If you have, then you know why his media team advised that his broken english, ebonics wouldn’t help his public image.
The bigger issue should also be, why he was able to go to Virginia Tech and still not be able to speak proper English.
By T
July 27, 2007 12:51 PM |