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Barry bad decision there, Bud
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Bud Selig just blew it — BIG TIME — but not in the way that you think. Instead of agreeing this week to join the Barry Bonds Home Run Chase, the baseball commissioner should have trusted his first instincts to stay away.
This has nothing to do with the ugly steroid allegations surrounding the personality challenged Bonds.
It’s like this: Despite knee-jerk opinions to the contrary, commissioners aren’t obligated to attend record-setting events in their sports. That’s because commissioners famously haven’t done such a thing in the past, and we’re talking about baseball commissioners and otherwise.
We needn’t go further than the NFL, supposedly the most PR savvy of the professional sports. Its equivalent to Bonds sitting on the verge of topping Hank Aaron’s all-time home run record was Emmitt Smith preparing five years ago at home in Dallas to sprint past Walter Payton as the all-time rushing leader.
Paul Tagliabue wasn’t there.
Not only that, when Payton eclipsed the legendary mark of Jim Brown in 1984, guess who wasn’t in Chicago? Pete Rozelle. This was the same commissioner who began the NFL obsession with image.
Consider, too, that given the friendly nature of an NFL schedule, it would have been easy for Tagliabue and Rozelle to plan to witness those record-breaking moments. In contrast, baseball teams play virtually every day and often move from town to town within a given week.
Plus, you can’t predict when somebody is going to hit a home run.
Even so, to hear the Selig bashers tell it, he is obligated to become part of the San Francisco Giants’ traveling team — you know, just in case Bonds goes deep for 754, 755 and then 756.
Ridiculous. The same applied to those who thought Bowie Kuhn SHOULD have been there in 1974 for Aaron’s record-breaker over Babe Ruth. Baseball commissioner Ford Frick wasn’t around in 1961 when Roger Maris broke Ruth’s single-season home run mark.
So go home, Bud. Watch Bonds set the record from your living room in Milwaukee, or just go bowling.
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By Roswell Ed
July 25, 2007 10:43 AM | Link to this
The only person Bonds cares about is Barry.
What a bum.
By Roswell Ed
July 25, 2007 10:50 AM | Link to this
Terence:
Selig could use Barry’s head as a bowling ball. 16 Pounder
By kgod999
July 25, 2007 11:00 AM | Link to this
???????????
By clayface
July 25, 2007 11:16 AM | Link to this
It appears that Terence is always going to write about subject matter that causes people to respond to his work. Not to mention that he always write on Big News Items, further confirm my thoughts that if he did not write negatively about hot topic issues no-one would read his work. Good way to show that you have more confidence in the Big Story than your journalism skills. Can I see some skills instead of feelings for once.
By Zeek
July 25, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this
Terrence,
Go ahead and put the white sheet back on……..You are a sorry journalist, and an even sorrier “African” American. I can’t stand to see black men “if that still applies to you” always talking down on other blacks. Jealousy is not attractive at all! AJC please get rid of this jerk…….
By Ken Myers
July 25, 2007 11:19 AM | Link to this
Terence, Go back in the archives of the Journal-Constitution, and check to see how the Braves fans were reacting when Bowie Kuhn was NOT in Atlanta Stadium when Henry Aaron broke Babe Ruth’s HR record in April of 1974. The fans were ready to hang Kuhn because he was in Cleveland at a Wahoo Club (Indians booster club) meeting that he claimed he could not reschedule. I believe Benign Bud Selig SHOULD be there when Barry Bonds breaks the record so that the commissioner’s office isn’t crucified in print, TV or the internet similar to what happened in 1974.
By Agree
July 25, 2007 11:22 AM | Link to this
Selig has more important things to do
By Jerry
July 25, 2007 11:28 AM | Link to this
Tereance Moore, you imbecile, keep your inane BS to yourself. You are probably one of the fools who cheered Sosa’s 600th (corked bat and all) even though he is the real cheat. What a hypocite you are!!!!!!!!! I would like to catch you in an alley someday!
By Germ
July 25, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this
What a jerk you are!!!!
By Germ
July 25, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this
What a jerk you are!!!!
By Germ
July 25, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this
What a jerk you are!!!!
By Germ
July 25, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this
What a jerk you are!!!!
By Germ
July 25, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this
What a jerk you are!!!!
By Germ
July 25, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this
What a jerk you are!!!!
By Germ
July 25, 2007 11:31 AM | Link to this
What a jerk you are!!!!
By The Ring Leader
July 25, 2007 11:34 AM | Link to this
This is stupid Terence…
“Well they don’t do it, so we shouldn’t have to either.” You make it sound like some whiny little children here.
Forget what the NFL or the NBA or even the NHL has ever done, Baseball is America’s past time, and I agree with Ken Myers on this one. Bowie Kuhn got raked over the coals for not being at Hank’s record-breaking moment. That should NOT happen, however, to a commissioner who needs to create good publicity for baseball in our current day and time.
Face the facts, I think we all wish that this weren’t happening. I’m not too sure anyone wants to see this record get broken by Barry Bonds except San Francisco fans who have nothing else to cheer about this season. We all know what he did, we just haven’t proven it yet. However, I applaud Bud Selig for making an effort to be in attendance the moment #756 clears the wall. It’s a respectable gesture coming from a guy who I genuinely think, despite what he may truly feel, is just trying to do the right thing.
You’re a joke on here Terence, and on ESPN as a guest. Brian Kenny looked like he wanted to kill you yesterday because you weren’t making any sense. While the rest of us go on with our lives trying to live respectably, you should just SHUT UP.
By Roswell Ed
July 25, 2007 11:34 AM | Link to this
Zeek:
How is he talking down other blacks?
Do you dudes in white sheets chase you around in your sleep?
Why are some many people that are so paranoid. Sometimes there is no conspiracy.
By JT
July 25, 2007 11:37 AM | Link to this
Zeek, Ken and Jerry - Let me ask you this….did your mommies come to school the day you successfully completed the alphabet? Did Mommy come to school to watch you get your first A (assuming you actually ever received one)?
However, I suppose what you’re really wanting is Selig to appear at the games where Bonds stands a chance of surpassing Aaron’s (legitimate) record, so that he would seem to be supporting a man who doped himself to make himself stronger. That way, when the whole Bonds thing finally gets to court, you jerks can scream that Bonds can’t be held accountable since Selig supported his home run record win.
By JT
July 25, 2007 11:41 AM | Link to this
Zeek - the problem with “African Americans” such as yourself is that you support people ONLY based on the fact that they are the same race as you. I’m sure you support O.J. and believe he should have taken out a few more “whiteys”. I’m sure, to you, every black man in prison was framed by the white man. I’m sure in your mind there is no black person who can do any wrong - only white people.
So when African Americans such as yourself open up your mouths, R-A-C-I-S-T comes out more loudly than the white people you accuse of the same thing.
By Zeek
July 25, 2007 11:43 AM | Link to this
Roswell Ed,
I am having difficulty reading your illiterate statement.
By Roswell Ed
July 25, 2007 11:44 AM | Link to this
That’s not what I typed.
Bottom line is you’re paranoid dude.
Take your meds and stop fretting because you hate your skin color.
White people are not out to get you.
By clayface
July 25, 2007 11:51 AM | Link to this
When I want to read a first rate column that speaks about real relevant sports issues I read the Washington Post or New York Times. Every since Furman Bisher stop writing the AJC Sports column the sports page has been reduced to second rate gossip columns that should appear in the Entertainment Section. Terence, maybe if you are interested in hits on your site you should continue to do just what you are doing. But if you ever want to be taken serious or considered as an expert in the sports industry, you should try displaying the skills you learned in journalism school. Please give me some sports substance every now and then to stimulate my higher thinking about sports and you as a once upon-a-time journalist.
By Zeek
July 25, 2007 11:56 AM | Link to this
JT, Roswell Ed….
You probably don’t want to hear this, but OJ was found not guilty!!!! Barry Bonds has not been found guilty of anything………Michael Vick has not been found guilty of anything…….The bottom line is you all hate to see an African-American making more than their white counter parts………In every sport black people DOMINATE, and the media and you guys hate on it. Just come to the realization that in sports terms……..it is finally ” A Black Man’s World”!!!!!!!
By ritzo
July 25, 2007 11:58 AM | Link to this
Who cares about your color. If you are doping you need to be kicked out of sports. If Bonds is doing the steriod thing none of his record breaking feats should count.
By DON'T BUY AJC PAPER
July 25, 2007 12:00 PM | Link to this
It all way bias thing that AJC sports write about black players. AJC is not for me!
By Zeek
July 25, 2007 12:15 PM | Link to this
Why does Babe Ruth’s homeruns not have an asterisk by them seeing as how he didn’t even play against African Americans…..Why does MLB not recognize Josh Gibson’s homerun record…..just a couple of things to ponder……
By steve
July 25, 2007 12:19 PM | Link to this
Terence is right. There is no reason for Bud to be there.
However, even if you disagree with Terence’s views why do some of you get so upset and attack him? We are talking about sports, not life or death.
By TampaGator
July 25, 2007 12:20 PM | Link to this
If Barry Bonds was white and had never done any performance hancing drugs, people still would not like him because of his abrasive personality and poor communication/people skills…totally unlike the current homerun champion…Henry (Hank) Aaron…who was, is, and will ever be and respresent total class in a human being, and who is a perfect role model for any kid of any racial or cultural background. Let Barry Bonds win the HR title…and then let us ALL forget that he ever existed (and hope that those in charge have the guts to reveal…what most of us already know…that he enhanced his performance through illigal drugs. Then put the * by his record, forever making it meaningless to those who ever respected and honored the sport of baseball.
By King Fish
July 25, 2007 12:20 PM | Link to this
What a great, well thought out article! Folks, this is not a race issue, this is an issue of ethics and integrity and weather Barry Bonds has any or not.
By True ATL Fan
July 25, 2007 12:23 PM | Link to this
Zeek,
I definitely understand where you are coming from BUT most white people are in the same boat as us. There are only few that control most. This post should be about how awful of a writer Moore is and why he’s always bashing the home team, no matter what.
The stories in the paper are just that, STORIES. Alot of it isn’t real, just supported by alot of $$$.
By TampaGator
July 25, 2007 12:24 PM | Link to this
Zeek…how does Babe Ruth not playing against African Americans have anything to do with Barry Bonds using performance enhancing drugs? I don’t follow your logic. Babe did not make the rules…he just followed them. Barry did not make the rules…he just broke them! It is not a black/white issue, dude.
By Coach (Hank Aaron Is The Real HR Champion)
July 25, 2007 12:29 PM | Link to this
Terence , for once I agree with you. It’s all P.R. A$$ kissing on the part of Selig.
By D Ables
July 25, 2007 12:30 PM | Link to this
Well, Mr. Moore, after a stunning op-ed on Vick recently, has again donned the robe of “Hate Whitey.” You had me from hello, Mr. Moore… (sniff) you had me… from…
By TampaGator
July 25, 2007 12:30 PM | Link to this
And, Zeek, I guess we have to put an asterisk by Henry’s name as well…since he did not play against players from Japan…and since Sarahara Oh’s home run record is greater than Hank’s record, I believe. They don’t recognize Josh’s record because it is not a MLB record…the same as with Oh from Japan. The times have changed Zeek…you might want to get up to date with the time in which you are now living.
By Zeek
July 25, 2007 12:32 PM | Link to this
TampaGator,
Prove Barry Bonds broke any rules……..my point about Babe Ruth is that if you wanna put and asterisk beside B. Bond’s homeruns, then one should be beside Babe’s Ruth’s also. Was Babe Ruth or Hank Aaron taking steroids……..if not…..prove it!
By Al
July 25, 2007 12:33 PM | Link to this
Terence Moore, you have no white fans,and you are beginning to loose the blacks.
By TampaGator
July 25, 2007 12:35 PM | Link to this
Don’t buy AJC paper…what is your thing…the KKK daily? Maybe a trip back to school will help your sentence structure skills some, too. Or maybe read the AJC more…as reading does help your writing skills!
By black
July 25, 2007 12:35 PM | Link to this
Yes he should attend. Barry is still playing. Hank Aaron has some nerve. He should be there too. He’s a sell out. We need to uplift. What about mark mcguire. He was there for that. Man, Moore where are you from. What, you trying to win a prize or something. Get real
By black
July 25, 2007 12:36 PM | Link to this
Yes he should attend. Barry is still playing. Hank Aaron has some nerve. He should be there too. He’s a sell out. We need to uplift. What about mark mcguire. He was there for that. Man, Moore where are you from. What, you trying to win a prize or something. Get real
By black
July 25, 2007 12:36 PM | Link to this
Yes he should attend. Barry is still playing. Hank Aaron has some nerve. He should be there too. He’s a sell out. We need to uplift. What about mark mcguire. He was there for that. Man, Moore where are you from. What, you trying to win a prize or something. Get real
By Gary
July 25, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this
* Barvo, Terence, Bravo* & to all who agree. Those that are opposed Gro wUp.
By Zeek
July 25, 2007 12:37 PM | Link to this
Josh Gibson is the real homerun champion………..Do your homework!!
By Zeek
July 25, 2007 12:43 PM | Link to this
TampaGator,
The difference is that Josh Gibson was an American…..He played in America…..It’s not his fault that this racist country did not allow him to play in the MLB. Believe it or not…..MLB is still full of racism. That’s why it’s particularly disturbing to see “Uncle Tom’s” like Terrence Moore…..I don’t like the way Hank Aaron is treating Barry Bonds during this time either. He should make it a point to be there when the record falls……….
By Zeek
July 25, 2007 12:47 PM | Link to this
Gary,
Get a dictionary………What is Barvo?
By TJC
July 25, 2007 12:56 PM | Link to this
Zeek- you do nothing but reinforce stereoptypes about blacks, crime and morality when you can be counted on to blindly defend O.J., Barry etc. These are people that the vast majority of free thinking americans rightly condemn. You’re unwillingness to give an inch on these issues completely destroys your crediblity no matter how many scathing replies you may post. Wake up Zeek, that’s coffee you smell.
By braint
July 25, 2007 12:58 PM | Link to this
Let’s see, would you consider pitching 324 Innings, winning 23 games, and having an ERA of 1.75 a good season? Those are the pitching numbers Babe Ruth had for Boston in 1916….Oh, yeah, he also hit 714 home runs. Until Aaron, Bonds, ARod, etc. can win 20 plus games twice in their career with an ERA under 2.00 while leading the world in HR’s - forget all the Aaron v. Bonds or Selig should do this or do that. It’s all insignificant. Ruth was, is, and will always be the most dominant baseball player in the history of the game.
By TampaGator
July 25, 2007 12:59 PM | Link to this
Zeek…I would only want the asterisk by Bonds’ name if they do PROVE he did performance hancing drugs (and I do believe they…MLB…will never let it be revealed for political and economic purposes)…and do you really think he didn’t do them? How do you explain the overnight change in his body type. That kind of change is not normal, dude, and cannot happen without performance enhancing drugs. As his former girlfriend and lover said, he did it because of his jelousy related to McGuire and Sosa. They were taking the spotlight away from him…and Barry needs the spotlight place on him. My statement about the asterisk…by the way…had nothing to do with performance hancing drugs anyway. It was about your point of who they played against…or didn’t play against…and I think that was your point, wasn’t it, that Babe did not play against black players therefore needing an asterisk. You got off point, dude. Are we talking about drugs with the asterist, or race with the asterisk. I guess you are confused and you are now trying to confuse me.
By Paul In Richmond
July 25, 2007 1:00 PM | Link to this
Those of us who love baseball want to see a team play a good close game and win.
Those who who hype records and stats and performance percentages while playing a “fantasy” game that they call baseball are more nerdy than they are fans. They distract from the game. Especially when they now want us to be upset about who attends when this or that player passes some statistical mark EVEN THOUGH HIS TEAM SUX AND IS LOSING!!!
This is a tempest in a teapot. And I suspect MLB is hurrying up to cash in on the hype before Bonds gets his day in court.
By Jordan
July 25, 2007 1:08 PM | Link to this
Terrence Morre is an idiot…white people are never right are they, Terrence?
By TheSouthernJackAss
July 25, 2007 1:09 PM | Link to this
If Bud Selig is expected to chase Barry Bonds all over the continent until he eventually ties, or breaks Hank Aaron’s record—then a representative of BALCO, and the major drug companies should also be required to be in attendance—since they have played such a necessary role in assisting Bonds in attaining such lofty goals…
By TampaGator
July 25, 2007 1:10 PM | Link to this
Hey, Al. I am white, and I personally think Terence is a good journalist that writes (especially for this purpose) features that generate interest from people from all walks of life…just look at the long list of blogs if you don’t believe me. Why do black people like you have to stand by blacks just because they are black? Terence obviously does not have much respect for Barry as a person…not a black person. He obviously has a lot of respect for Hank Aaron…who just happens to be black. He also has a lot of respect for Joe Montana…who just happens to be white. Gosh, people like you will never let racism die from society…forever using it as a crutch for not achieving anything you desire to achieve in today’s world. I am a school teacher…and the most racism I see is not white directed towards black, but black directed towards white (both towards peers, teachers, and administrative personnel). When you decide to get passed this issue (as I think Terence has) then you will be able to get on with your life in the real world…as so many black people have today…but, of course, they are sell outs to you.
By Jordan
July 25, 2007 1:16 PM | Link to this
Terrence, YOU ARE AN IDIOT…of course the white man is wrong, isn’t he Terrence? I genuinely don’t like you and I wish you would get fired
By Ricky
July 25, 2007 1:18 PM | Link to this
Zeek,
You are coming across as a loony, Pro-Black nutcase. Your irrational comments make all blacks(including myself) look bad. This may be hard to believe, but EVERYTHING isn’t about race. Terrence Moore doesn’t have to always defend B. Bonds or M. Vick - just because they’re black. Mark McGuire was almost as popular as Bonds. He is a non-factor today as most whites have abandoned him. Do you think white people should support Cris Benoit just because he’s white? Please dont call me an uncle Tom because it’ll make you seem tired and predictable.
By Roswell Ed
July 25, 2007 1:20 PM | Link to this
Zeek,
What did I say against Bond besides the fact that he has an ego the size of his bulbous head.
You are one paranoid dude Zeek.
By fayncbrave
July 25, 2007 1:20 PM | Link to this
Mr. Moore, this is a VERY (NOT BARRY) irresponsible piece of crap you wrote! Just like you write countless articles on how Michael Vick needs to take responsibilty for the poor choices he ALLEGEDLY made, you need to write a article on how Selig needs to take responsibility for the poor choices he HAS made since being Acting or Permanent Commisioner. During his reign, he gave praise to the steroid-tainted accomplishments of Ken Caminiti (who stole the 1996 NL MVP from a borderline Hall-of-Famer: I pray that Mike Piazza does not get denied the Hall because of no MVP), Juan Gonzales, Sammy Sosa, Mark McGwire, Rafael Palmero, and probably countless others. Since the whole BALCO thing kicked off, Selig has made no mention off perhaps taking away Caminiti’s and Gonzales’s MVPs, renaming Roger Maris as the single-season HR record-holder, or discrediting Palmero’s 500/3000 record. Everything has been about discrediting Bonds. And Selig wants to blame the Player’s Union for all this! The problem is that Selig had the early heads-up on all the steroid-tainted accomplishments that he would give praise to. In most cases, the evidence of steroid use was far more obvious than Bonds’. All Selig needed to do was to give no recognition to these steroid-tainted accomplishments! There would be nothing the Player’s Union could do it IF he would have taken that course of action. DON’T BLAME THE PLAYER’S UNION!! SELIG AND HANK AARON DESERVE ALL THE BLAME FOR THIS MESS! IF THEY HAD STARTED DISCREDITING THESE STEROID-TAINTED ACCOMPLISHMENTS THE MOMENT SELIG BECAME ACTING COMMISH IN 1994, ALL THIS MESS WOULD HAVE NEVER TAKEN PLACE! SELIG MADE HIS BED OF NAILS; NOW HE MUST SLEEP IN IT!!! HE BETTER NOT MISS ANOTHER GIANTS GAME THIS SEASON!!!!
By Al Beeski
July 25, 2007 1:23 PM | Link to this
Terrence, first of all i’m black & i think u are a total idiot when it comes to sports. You do play the race card way 2 much.I understand your political stance sometimes, but your knowledge & writing on sports is horrible. just wanted you 2 know that!!!
By Joshhh
July 25, 2007 1:27 PM | Link to this
Why does someone always have to make it a race issue?? Its amazing how we can’t let it die. Good column Terrence.
By Joshhh
July 25, 2007 1:27 PM | Link to this
Why does someone always have to make it a race issue?? Its amazing how we can’t let it die. Good column Terrence.
By buck
July 25, 2007 1:30 PM | Link to this
If you think terrence moore’s articles are sorry work than I suggest boycotting his blogs.
By Dnice
July 25, 2007 1:30 PM | Link to this
By braint
July 25, 2007 12:58 PM | Link to this
Let’s see, would you consider pitching 324 Innings, winning 23 games, and having an ERA of 1.75 a good season? Those are the pitching numbers Babe Ruth had for Boston in 1916….Oh, yeah, he also hit 714 home runs. Until Aaron, Bonds, ARod, etc. can win 20 plus games twice in their career with an ERA under 2.00 while leading the world in HR’s - forget all the Aaron v. Bonds or Selig should do this or do that. It’s all insignificant. Ruth was, is, and will always be the most dominant baseball player in the history of the game.
I hate to inform you that those pitching stats in the deadball ERA are not all that significant. If you hadnt notice no one will ever achieve the 500plus wins that CY Young had but Clemens may very well catch the wins that Warren Spahn and some other pitcher had and be recognized as truly the best pitcher. Not trying to hate on Ruth but do you honestly believe he would have those numbers against the likes of Bob Gibson, Nolan Ryan, Dwight Gooden, Pedro, Seaver, Clemens,etc… Saying who is the most dominant is only an opinion because regardless of what you may say about Bonds he is still the leader in walks and the only member of 500 homers 500 steals. Those numbers were achieved before the public thought he used the “Clear”. The Hammer has more hits than the Babe and more RBI’s than anyone in the history to go along with a 300+ batting average and numerous Gold Gloves. Babe had great stats but he never won a Gold Glove nor did he steal bases so you cant say that he was more dominant than AROD, Griffey, Seaver, Clemens, Bonds, Roberto Clememte, and a host of others.The term 5 tool is used for a reason and the only true 5 tool players that we have seen have been Jr. Bonds, Clemente, AROD, Rickey Henderson, Mickey Mantle, Willie Mays, and Stan Musial.
By Zeek
July 25, 2007 1:34 PM | Link to this
Ricky,
Put your sheet back on also!
By Georgiaboy
July 25, 2007 1:35 PM | Link to this
Fire Terence Moore
By Craig
July 25, 2007 1:35 PM | Link to this
Remeber that Terence gets paid to voice his opinion in print and you have everyright not to like what he is saying. If Bonds is a cheater and if he can live with it that is between him and his God. Not for anyone else to judge him on. If this was Mcguire going after the record he would be under the same microscope as Bonds. Being an atlanta fan and an Aaron fan I dont want anyone to break this record But that being said records are made to be broken and A-Rod will come along and knock Bonds out of this spot in due time so as much as i dont like it let Bonds have his 15 mins of fame. If the commish decides to be there great. Was he there for biggios 3000th hit? you cant expect the commish to be at every game. When kerry wood tied the 1 game strike out record did they say hold on the commish is not hear? Baseball is a unpredictible sport and if he is there great if not in this day and age it would not be hard to be on a video feed from anywhere congraulating him on his “record”.
By Zeek
July 25, 2007 1:37 PM | Link to this
Joshhh,
Racism is very real in this world. What do you mean “let it die?” You probably think blacks and whites are equal in society, huh?
By The Murf
July 25, 2007 1:46 PM | Link to this
Whether you like it or not, Barry Bonds is going to be the all time greatest home run hitter in a few days. Bud needs to be there.
By Boots
July 25, 2007 1:47 PM | Link to this
God Almighty, hotdangit, I am so tired of the race card being played whenever you don’t agree with someone or something. That is a cheat, mindless and weak response for the intellectually challenged.
Hotdamnit, I’m freakin’ sick if it. If that’s all you’ve got to say, just shut up. Enough is enough!
By Dnice
July 25, 2007 1:48 PM | Link to this
By TampaGator
Please dont speak about something you totally dont understand. While you may witness some misguided students treating you less than you should, that should not cloud your judgement on an entire raise. I myself went to a prodominantly white college (Brewton-Parker) in the so called Bible Belt and felt and saw so much racism that I left that environment and finished my undergrad degree at a HBCU. I learned so much more about myself, my culture, your race, your culture, all while I was at the HBCU. If you have never walked in someone’s way of life you should never try to judge them or tell them that they have hate because you really dont get it. Does racism exist on black and white lines? Of course it does. Read the AJC today and you will see a column about the balck football plaer from BSU who had to hire a security team for his wedding because people are upset that he is marrying the white cheerleader from BSU. He should not have to deal with that as he can marry anyone he chooses be it black, white, chinese. thai, or whatever. Yes I did marry a black woman because that is who I was attracted to not because I was worried about marrying a white woman or another race but again because that is who I wanted to be with. Lets be honest Tampa, no one is barking up McGwire’s tree like they are up Bonds. There were so many people on drugs according to the media that you dont know who was clean and not clean. Who is to say that Roger Clemens was not on drugs as he is getting better as the time goes on (not accusing just stating). Unless you were injecting as Jose Canseco claims (no one really said Sosa was guilty)then dont make factless opinions. I will cheer when Bonds breaks the record and I will cheer if Jr. or AROD break it behind him. I dont dislike Big Mac nor do I dislike Pete Rose (I do have a reason for Pete though), and I believe they should be in the HOF for their achievements on the field. Give people break especially since Ty Cobb is in the HOF and he was the biggest racist since Governor Wallace in Alabama.
By Zeek
July 25, 2007 1:51 PM | Link to this
Craig,
You are sounding kinda feminine……….
By Rev. Dudly Doright
July 25, 2007 1:56 PM | Link to this
The opportunities are there, but the takers are few. Education and success are available, but you have to go for it.
Atlanta is so filled with African American success stories, I’d be ashamed to whine about the lack of opportunity.
However, get an education, stay free of drugs and alcohol, not having children before marriage, being dependable, punctual, being clean, neat, mannerly —- hey, it’s really not that difficult.
Quit your whinning and aget you butt in gear. There’s never been a better time and you’re in the best place in the USA for African American success. Quit blaming others and take personal responsibility. You can do it.
By Ebony
July 25, 2007 1:56 PM | Link to this
Terrence Moore is the sorriest journalist ever…he sucks! Selig should attend as he is the commissioner and what ever happened with Barry, it was his watch. To the people that hate Barry Bonds, who cares….steroids dont make you hit homeruns...He is still hitting them, is he on them now? There is definitely a bias in this country with blacks and whites. Blacks are judged, point blank, no discussions, no wait until the trial, no reasonable doubt....no nothing....just guilty! We have witnessed this over the years, decades, centuries....If you see that done over and over again, it becomes a part of your reality. I think most white people have no idea of that reality. Understanding something and living in someone elses skin and in there shoes are hard things to bear. Black people don`t always stick with each other just because of color. When a black person does something, in this country…most white Americans make blanket judgments and use that to define all blacks….regardless!
By alo
July 25, 2007 2:01 PM | Link to this
Gold Jacket, Green jacket, who gives a $#!&.
By TheSouthernJackAss
July 25, 2007 2:01 PM | Link to this
Racism will never die as long as people like Terence Moore, along with Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and Joe Morgan continue to make sure that it doesn’t…they just have to keep stirring that simmering pot…and all for notoriety and/or profit…TheJackAss out…
By Maj
July 25, 2007 2:03 PM | Link to this
Terrance does always respond in NEGATIVE about everything when it is the HOT topic. He’s a player on words and emotion and ignorant in all aspects in sports. Why compare the MLB and NFL?? Big difference in the way people look at them.
PS Stop making an a* of yourself on ESPN when you call people “losers” on air nationwide. The only loser is you Mr. Moore.
By Dawgma
July 25, 2007 2:07 PM | Link to this
I agree with DNICE. The only reason the media is going after Bonds is because they hate him and he hates them. The media loved McGwire and Sosa because they were deemed friendly by the media. McGwire has disappeared from the planet and Sosa is still hittin home runs and no one is saying anything. Why? Because they like Sosa so they are not going to give him any grief. If Sosa was an a*, they would be all over him. Clemens gets better every year and no one is calling him out. Why? Because the media likes him.
On the HOF thing..The “HALL” is your on the field performance not your personal life. If Cobb is in, and was considered a racist then why can’t Rose be in. How do explain that the guy who hit the baseball more times than any other player is not in the Hall. It’s ridiculous and all cause the former commish hated Rose and he’s making him pay for it. You can bet your arse that if he and Rose got along, Rose would be in the HOF. It’s all one big popularity contest, in all sports. If you are liked, you’re in. If not, you’re out.
By sportsmandh
July 25, 2007 2:15 PM | Link to this
Zeek, black players domiate all sports huh? Think you better say blacks dominate football and basketball. If black players dominate all sports, why do so many baseball media people, and players like Gary Sheffield, Joe Morgan, Dave Winfield, (probably others) complain about not enough African Americans in baseball? Not saying they don’t have a point, because they probably do. But here’s the thing, you need to put your emotions aside and understand some things.
The very vast majority of sport fans don’t care what race people are. You shouldn’t let a few idiots on a sports blog bulletin board that are just trying to stir the pot get you so angry, because you become the one who is ‘hating’. Saying that whites don’t like Michael Vick, Barry Bonds, etc. because they make more money than their counterpart white athletes in your argument is total stupidity. In case you haven’t noticed, everyone loves Michael Jordan, Shaquille O’Neill, Emmitt Smith, Walter Payton, Jerry Rice, Dr. J, Magic Johnson, David Robinson, Tim Duncan, Willie Mays, Hank Aaron, Jackie Robinson, Ozzie Smith, Tony Gwynn, etc. etc. etc. The bottom line is that people like guys with character and/or that are true to their game. People don’t like primadonnas, punks, thugs, liars, and jacka$$es. Why people couldn’t stand Albert Belle and why a lot of people can’t stand Randy Johnson.
If Babe Ruth’s stats should have an * beside them, then every record set before baseball became integrated should have an * beside it too. So that argument is also total stupidity. There’s no way Babe Ruth or Hank Aaron could have taken steroids. And you can not say that if Bonds was white there would be no controversy surrounding this record chase. If this was Mark Magwire, and everything that has come out in the past few years about steroids had still come out, then the exact same public reactions would be taking place regarding his suspected steroid use and how it cheapens the home run record. If you don’t think that Jason Giambi, Mark Magwire, Ken Caminiti, Sammy Sosa, Jason Grimsley, Jose Canseco, Bret Boone, and Rafael Palmeroid didn’t get a lot of public scrutiny and weren’t slamed in the press during the last several years then you have been hiding under a rock. And you probably think Pete Rose has never gotten any bad press either. And oh by the way, none of them are African American.
Bottom line Zeek, GET OVER thinking everything under scrutiny is about being black and that all white people don’t like or appreciate black players. I’m white and have been a baseball fan my entire life, and my favorite player of all time was Andre Dawson. Over his career I have loved to watch Barry Bonds the player, but I don’t like Barry Bonds the man.
As for Boob Selig, whether he goes to Bond’s game or not, he’ll undoubtedly be sitting around thinking about what he can screw up next.
By Zeek
July 25, 2007 2:26 PM | Link to this
Sportsmandh,
In the last 10 years in baseball….how many Caucasian Americans have won the MVP? The sad thing is that MLB is a white person’s sport……..and they still can’t be the best! Prove Hank Aaron or Babe Ruth didn’t do steroids, or prove Barry Bonds did………..you can’t, so crawl back under your rock!
By Dawgma
July 25, 2007 2:26 PM | Link to this
Yes, Blacks have been mistreated over the years. What I find interesting is the ones who are usually biching, aren’t the ones who are being mistreated and usually live a normal life. If you are not living the good life, then it’s YOUR fault, not society’s. Hell, it’s almost easier for a black man to get a job over a white man these days. All you gotta do is pull the race card and most will back down. It’s ok though, cause in 20 years, white’s will be hollering affirmative action cause they won’t be able to get a job and the blacks will see how dumb they look then.
By Bushwacker
July 25, 2007 2:44 PM | Link to this
Everyone is saying he should be there because if he doesn’t it will be like putting an asterisk on the record, therefore not legitimizing Bonds as the hr king. Well, if that’s how he feels then he should stay away. He’s not the one that took the steroids, if the people don’t recognize Bonds as 31 he has no one to blame but himself.
This mentality in todays world that its ok for people to do whatever they want to do is why whether its right or wrong or legal or illegal is why we are having to deal with: 1 A tainted HR run king. 2 A superstar QB invloved in a barbaric and sick activity. 3 Referee’s fixing games. 4 athlete’s shooting at people outside strip clubs.
I can go on and on and on.
Frankly I’ve had it with all pro sports!
Mark my words, if things don’t change PRO SPORTS as we know them are going to GO AWAY!!!
By REGGIE BALL
July 25, 2007 2:46 PM | Link to this
ZEEK is an idiot! Anyone who believes that Selig needs to be there for this is stupid. WHY? Tradition? Did Barry take steriods? Don’t know, don’t care. Is it a true ligitimate record when he breaks Aaron’s? I truly believe that we will never know. I don’t like Bonds because he is Bonds. I truly think that is enough reason. It is all irrelevant due to the fact that ten years from now Alex Rodriguez is going to break the record again. As for it being a “Black man’s sport world,” I feel that one racist statement deserves another. ZEEK you need to take you food stamps and go back to the projects with you 12 kids.
By sportsmandh
July 25, 2007 2:51 PM | Link to this
Zeek, In the last ten years (back to 97):
white players who’ve won the MVP are: Justin Morneau, Jason Giambi, Jeff Kent, Chipper Jones, Larry Walker.
African American players who’ve won the MVP are: Ryan Howard, Barry Bonds, Ken Griffey, Jr.
Latin players who’ve won the MVP are: Albert Pujols, Alex Rodriguez, Sammy Sosa, Vladimir Guerrero, Miguel Tejada, Ivan Rodriguez, and Juan Gonzalez
And there’s one more, Japanese: Ichiro in 2001.
See, you’re still missing the point. Respect can’t be legislated, dictated, bought, or forced. It is earned, no matter who you are.
By braint
July 25, 2007 2:52 PM | Link to this
by Dnice July 25, 2007 1:30pm
I hate to inform you that those pitching stats in the deadball ERA are not all that significant…
You make a very valid point Dnice but if the pitching numbers are not that significant in the deadball ERA because the pitchers dominated than does that make the 54 HR’s Ruth hit in 1920 that much more impressive? How about the 59 in 1921?
If you discredit his 23 & 24 win seasons with an E.R.A. under 2.00 as a pitcher than you’d have to say that his 50 plus homer seasons in the deadball ERA are that much more significant. He hit more home runs than some entire teams combined.
It’s true though, hitting against Gibson, etc. would definitely result in fewer home runs and production but giving Bonds an at bat with a tree trunk bat, no batting gloves, no helmet, no body armor, and standing that close to the plate….he might not have lived to hit 73 HR’s in a season. Could you imagine Gibson vs. Bonds? I would bet that Bonds would change his batting style after many trips to the ER x-ray machine for bruised ribs.
By Shaun
July 25, 2007 3:01 PM | Link to this
Terrence, That is an idoitic article. This is the biggest and greatest record all of sports. You have to respect a record like that even if the most diliked man in baseball is about to break it. Are you racist?
By Bushwacker
July 25, 2007 3:12 PM | Link to this
YES, YES, YES,
Bonds is the one they after but not because he is black but because THE WORLD does not want the greatest record in sports broken by someone who cheated. It sends a horrible message to kids.
If Bonds had 1/2 a brain he would have figured out that if he would retire before he broke the record, ( and by the way improve his chances of getting into the hall of fame for doing the right thing), this investigation would probably go away!
But no, he’ not worried.
Michael Vick wasn’t worried either about 10 days ago!!!!
By Bushwacker
July 25, 2007 3:15 PM | Link to this
And before all of you say Bonds did not break any laws, just remember, when your standing in front of GOD, saying it wasn’t illegal ain’t gonna fly.
By TJC
July 25, 2007 3:18 PM | Link to this
Zeek—For the sake of intelligent, fair minded african american sports fans everywhere I pray that you are really a beer swilling white guy pretending to be black in order to stir up racial disharmony. Sportmandh writes an eloquent 47 line rebuttal to your opinions with many examples to back up his arguments and all you can come up with is 5 lines of inane stupidity and name calling. You have gone from no credibiltiy to being a parody of stupidity. Log off brother. Please.
By Spike
July 25, 2007 3:19 PM | Link to this
Terrence.. This is the best article you have ever written. I am surprised that if Selig stayed away he would not be accused of being a racist. How refreshing. Bonds is a classless jerk, it doen’t matter whether he is black, white or polka dotted.
By TampaGator
July 25, 2007 3:27 PM | Link to this
Zeek, I am going to check to make sure, but I don’t think steroids were in existence when Babe Ruth played baseball. And there is no doubt in anyone’s mind but yours that Hank Aaron didn’t do them. I guess you being the only person who believes he did means that he did…and Barry didn’t. It is a character issue with Barry, Zeek, not a race issue. You just don’t get that…do you? Go ahead and wear your “black oppression” on your sleeve the rest of your life and see where that gets you…not far my friend. Those black men and women who have gone past that are the ones who are making a big impact on society today…in sports, in music, in business, in education, in almost any field in America. No one is keeping anyone down these days…even if Gary Sheffield thinks they are. Torre didn’t like Sheff for the same reason all his previous managers did not like him…character and personality…not his skin color. But you just keep on believing, like Sheff, that everyone is out to get you, especially if you are African American. Sad.
By Zeek
July 25, 2007 3:42 PM | Link to this
Just face it haters……….Barry Bonds is the greatest baseball player of all time……….and it kills you that he just happens to be African American….sorry journalists like T-E-R-E-N-C-E and the rest of these uncle toms hate it!
By Spike
July 25, 2007 3:50 PM | Link to this
Zeek You need to go to diversity and sensitivity training, and have some of their decaf cofee while you are there. You are the true racist.
By TampaGator
July 25, 2007 3:50 PM | Link to this
Dnice…I do speak of what I know and have experienced. I was not speaking of myself when I spoke of black racism towards whites. I was speaking from the experience of watching it over and over again last year while working in a over 70 percent American American student population and repeatedly saw and experienced black students committing overt acts of racism towards white students in the school…and in addition, repeated acts of violence including beatings, harrassment, and all types of racial insults. I have also worked in over 70 percent white student schools and never witnessed the intensity of racism and overt aggression towards another race as I did last year. Yes, it was an inner city school filled with lack of educational background, little or no family support, drugs, violence, and hate. And, when teachers tried to help these kids with character issues as a result of their environmental and social experiences, they (and often even their own parents or guardians)became increasingly aggressive. And this included many of the black teachers who attempted the same interventions. I am sorry you experienced racism to the degree that you did, and I am glad it made you a better person. But the racism I saw last year does not make people better people. It just helps hate grow.
By TJC
July 25, 2007 3:52 PM | Link to this
Zeek—to quote bugs bunny—“What a Maroon”.
By TampaGator
July 25, 2007 3:53 PM | Link to this
Zeek…I believe the only hater on this board is you…and I am beginning to believe, like others here, you are not Aftican American at all. You are probably a white racist and too scared to say so.
By Kenny
July 25, 2007 3:56 PM | Link to this
Terence,
I would like to know if there are any Black PLAYERS YOU LIKE ? Man you suck when it come to writing something good about the black players.
If you this Barry Bonds is so bad, what did you say about Mark and Roger the rocket (like the Heard say on ESPN, don’t just talk about Barry, let talk about Roger the rocket, at the age of 42 and still throwing high 90’s.
Man , I know you can only write the they tell you to and it’s all about downing the black players. you are sad !
By Bushwacker
July 25, 2007 4:01 PM | Link to this
ZEEK you are obvioulsy uneducated and a moron.
It has nothing to do wtih race, and the fact you think it does shows you are the racist!
I AM AS WHITE AS THE COCAINE YOU PROBABLY DO EVERY NIGHT and me and every honky in Atlanta would have no problem with Ken Griffey Jr breaking the record or DJ Shockley taking the Falcons to the Super Bowl and last time I checked they were both black men.
Color has nothing to do with it, unless your saying being black contibutes to being a jerk or criminal.
By TR
July 25, 2007 4:13 PM | Link to this
One reason Selig should be there is that by not being there—thus saying the record is not as momentous as it should be due to cloud of steroid allegations—Selig would be admitting that the MLB turned a blind eye to it all (especially, when summer of ‘98 HR race helped restore interest in baseball). Too late to be sanctimonious and be above supporting Barry’s quest, regardless if it was steroid induced.
By Noodles is My Slave Name
July 25, 2007 4:33 PM | Link to this
Federal Prison Math:
Barry Bonds + Michael Vick = 69
By Lex Luthor
July 25, 2007 4:36 PM | Link to this
Zeek,
Good to know that you’ll make an excellent cheerleader if you need a fall back career.
By AI
July 25, 2007 4:41 PM | Link to this
Nice to see your columns and your , what many thought were racist quasi rants aside and see both the Barroid and Vick horrors for what they are, and WHO they are. Plenty of money thrown thee way.
If over 70% of NFL players are African american, how can this issue be racist? And the Union head is also African American. Helloo!!
Go away Mike, quickly and quietly. pleare!!!
By john
July 25, 2007 4:48 PM | Link to this
Is he (Bonds) a miserable SOB—-yes ! Is he a cheater as the ‘paper trail’ proves—-yes ! But guess what, he is, like it or not, breaking Henry’s record. So Selig should be there.
By john
July 25, 2007 4:48 PM | Link to this
Is he (Bonds) a miserable SOB—-yes ! Is he a cheater as the ‘paper trail’ proves—-yes ! But guess what, he is, like it or not, breaking Henry’s record. So Selig should be there.